Child's Play 2

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And I am Donnie Cianciotto.
I am probably not the spookyslut from your wettest
nightmares.
Not with that attitude.
I know.
It's it's like a Monday, butit's not.
No, it's not a Monday.
It feels like a Monday.
It feels like a Monday.
So I don't really feelparticularly spooky and sexy and
slutty yet.
You will, once we get startedtonight.

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You better believe it.
So, um, I'm going to pull backthe curtain again.
I'm legitimately consideringjust adding a segment.
To our show and just call it,pulling back.
The curtain sounds good to me.
I feel like I just need topreface every episode with some
backstory, like.
The epic saga that Donnie and Iwent through to get this episode

(01:16):
recorded.
Oh yes, please do share.
Okay.
So here's the thing.
I think we had initiallyscheduled to record this maybe
two weeks ago, maybe a littlebit longer than that.
Maybe it might've been threeweeks ago.
Cause then we missed two andthen we did one.
It's been awhile.
It's been awhile.
So 87 years.
It's been 87 years.

(01:38):
Oh, my goodness.
That was good.
Um, So, yeah, basically, yeah,we scheduled it.
I wasn't feeling well.
We rescheduled it.
Donnie wasn't feeling well.
Then we tried doing a remoterecording situation because I
was out of the city.
And we, it was literally, wewere three hours, three hours.

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We were recording this episode.
And for some reason, the last 30minutes, which are pivotal, of
course, because of course we'regoing over the third act, the
last part of the movie and whathappened to it?
I have no idea.
It just disappeared.
I was editing this footage.
And I was like, where the fuckis the finale?

(02:24):
Oh, no.
So that's the backstory for allof you to understand how, how
many odds we've had to overcometo get this episode to your
ears.
So basically we've already donethis, so if it's not perfect,
We're screwed.
Honestly.
I don't know if I want to holdmyself to those standards.
Nor do I.

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And to add a little extra layerof tasty cakes to this.
Uh, today is the day the podcastlaunch.
It is May 31st.
Today.
It is May 31st, today.
Do you know what that means?
It means it's my birthday.
Hey, happy birthday.
Everybody say happy birthday,Tanti Aguri to me.
I need to go pee.
Not.

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In about four hours, we're goingto be performing.
It's it's been, it's been atime.
But we're so happy to be herewith you and thrilled to be
launching this.
So thank you for watching.
Yes.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
now that the curtain has beenofficially pulled back.
Uh, how are you Donnie?
We know that it feels like aMonday.

(03:27):
It does feel like a Monday.
Um, I I'm okay.
I'm okay.
I did a lot of running aroundtoday.
I had to pick up my laundry andchange my sheets on my bed
because my girlfriend's comingover tonight.
I don't know if I should saygirlfriend, my lady who was a
friend is coming over tonightand.
They were covered in cat hair.
And who wants to go over tosomebody else's house and sleep
in cat hair?

(03:48):
It depends on the cat.
It's a very sweet cat.
you know, it's one thing for meto sleep in the cat hair, but to
have somebody come over, youknow, I just felt like, let me
redo the sheets and.
I put the duvet comforter on orthe cover on which takes about
six days.
To do.
i dont know if you ever put aduvet cover on, I am.
No.
Good.
Never do it.

(04:08):
I never do it.
I mean, who cares about a littlepussy hair?
Am I right?
That's right.
I mean, one.
Yeah, I don't even have anythingto say to that because a little
pussy hair is fine with me.
Yeah.
Never hurt nobody.
I'm very excited to talk about.
The movie that we're talkingabout today.
of course we are.
Going balls to the wall.

(04:30):
Um, talk to the wall.
Tuck to the wall.
Into child's play the child'splay franchise.
And we're going to be talkingabout child's play to child's
play to yes.
which means it's the secondmovie.
And his franchise, cause it'sgot the two in it.
between the last time werecorded and now.
I still have not looked up theyear that this movie came out.
I.
It 1990 is screaming in mybrain.

(04:52):
Okay.
I think it's 1990.
That's.
I'm going to that's.
Okay.
That's what it is 1990.
And if it's not 1990, then it'smy fault.
Whoops.
So yeah, it's, child's play two.
We have sweet, hot and daddy,Don Mancini back there it is.
We usually we make it a littlefurther into the episode before
you mentioned Don Mancini byname?

(05:12):
No, I've been looking at hisInstagram lately.
Uh, he posted a really handsomeselfie today.
No.
Not today yesterday.
Oh, yeah.
And, um, so he's been on mymind.
Do you comment?
No.
Oh, you should be like, Hey,check it out.
Check out whorror icon.
I sub-tweet.
I don't know what that means.
I don't even know.
No.
So what I did actually on, onthe Twitter, I retweeted his

(05:37):
selfie and I was just like,listen, when whorror icon
launches y'all are going to getan ear full.
Of me talking about how hot DonMancini is, and it's, it's still
going strong.
Yes.
Yes, Don Mancini is, A veryattractive man who seems to only

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get more attractive as he ages.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
I am here for Don Mancini.
So.
Uh, and Don man seen he is herefor us.
Right Child's Play 2, he hassole writing credits on this
movie.
Which is fantastic.
Now I'm going to be honest.
I watched child's play two whenit probably when it first came

(06:17):
out or very shortly after, butI, you know, I have very little
recollection of that.
And when I rewatched it, becausewe were going to do this.
Uh, my, one of my first thoughtswas.
The way that this movie isstarting is indicative that it's
not going to be as good as thefirst one.
Yeah, that's, that's what Ithought.
Um, and my mind changed a littlebit as the movie went on, but
when it first started, I waslike, what is this?

(06:40):
I can see that it's verystylized this movie, which is
why I like it.
Child's play two, is one of myfavorites in the franchise
because I'm a big fan of boldstylistic decisions.
And this movie is chock-full ofthem, baby.
It absolutely has.
From the color palette to the,to the choices that the actors
make and just the low angles onso many inanimate objects.

(07:02):
Um, it's, it's a treat in myopinion.
I get the feeling you don'treally like this one.
It's not that I don't reallylike it.
It's just that.
I wanted a little bit more fromit.
Um, you know, when, when wediscussed this last, I talked
about how I wanted more from thekills.
Okay.
I can see that.

(07:23):
You know, but we'll, we'll gothrough that.
And, and I just, I wanted, Idon't know, maybe I wanted more
blood, more gore.
Or more camp.
I feel like this movie getscaught kind of in between.
You know, the first movie whichwas done seriously.
And then we get obviouslyridiculous as we go further
through, the, the series andthis one, you know, Chucky
starts kind of deliveringone-liners, but they're, they're

(07:43):
kind of tentative.
And we don't know if it's meantto really be funny.
And it's just kind of like, Ifelt like the movie wasn't sure
what it wanted to be yet.
That's fair.
Yeah.
I mean, Chucky is workshopping.
Some of it.
That's it he's at like a divebar in Greenpoint.
Practicings his standup set,but.

(08:04):
I can, okay.
Here I can support that.
I.
A lot of people love this moviefor a lot of people.
This is their favorite.
And I support them with that,but I'm not going to shame you
for your opinion.
Thank you.
You are on this show because Iwant your opinion.
And I will just, you know, Imean, I won't shame you, but I
might disagree with you.
Yes.
Yes.
I mean, it's, it's not my leastfavorite in the franchise.

(08:25):
Um, but I just, I just wantedmore.
That's okay.
It's okay.
Tonight.
I'm like wake up in my bed andyou're going to be standing over
me.
With a bag of cat hair, just to.
Undo all the work that you did.
Oh my God.
That would be hilarious.
Well, let's jump into the movie.

(08:46):
Um, you know, speaking of killsin child's play one.
Chucky had a pretty gnarlydeath.
Oh yeah.
He got thrown in a fireplace.
He got shot to bits and piecesby mama.
Karen.
And eventually he got shot inthe heart.
And you'll go to blame.
Sorry.
I couldn't resist.
I'm so sorry.
So he's all crispy.

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And that's the first shot thatwe get from this movie is just
his head.
All charred and crispy.
And it is being renovated, notrenovated.
Oh my goodness.
The right word.
I mean, he is being renovated.
Yeah.
Renovated, rehabilitated.
Reconstructed.
Yeah, they're putting that bitchback together, which is so

(09:29):
strange because you know, they,they just churn out good guy
dolls, like they're going out ofstyle, but for some reason they
want to specificallyrehabilitate this doll.
Rehabilitate all these abilitiesthat start with re yes.
It's ridiculous.
It's well done.
yeah, no, we get some artisinaldoll construction here.
And we do find out.

(09:51):
Uh, we it's intercut.
The reconstruction with alimousine, and we know that
there's somebody very importantin this vehicle.
Obviously one of those 1990slimousines.
So we ended up meeting the CEOof the, I think they're called
play pal.
Yep.
Play.
pal play pal company.

(10:11):
And he's talking with hispencil, neck assistant, right.
I feel like every movie is goingto have a pencil.
neck, everybody has that oneguy, you know, who's just like
annoying.
And, he's the yes.
Yes, man.
You know?
Yeah.
The just licking the boots,boot, licker.
So they're chatting and we learnthat.

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A mama.
Karen is not going to be in thismovie.
Unfortunately, mama Karen, ithas been turned over to the
state and is in a psychiatricInstitute.
'cause she backed up what herchild said.
And we learned that the cops didnot back up what the child said,
those fuckers are.

(10:53):
We surprised?
Thanks for nothing, Chris.
Surandon that's right.
And their main reason forrehabilitating this doll is
because.
They need to prove that therewas nothing wrong with it
because Andy Barkley hasbasically lit this shit on fire.
And this company is getting alot of heat about their quality
control for their dolls.

(11:14):
So they're rebuilding this oneto basically prove a point to
prove that he's not alive.
It's not a murderous doll.
Andy is obviously just adisturbed child.
so they're trying to fix thisdoll to help fix the image of
the company.
And as they're trying to dothis, The opposite thing happens
because they go to insert theeyeballs into this doll.

(11:36):
And I guess the eyes are thewindow to the soul.
Well done.
Well said.
And so when the eyes get putinto the doll, More of that
beautiful eighties, electricity.
I love it.
I love it.
At the, that.
Amazing.
Special effect with a soundeffect too.
That's like a man standing inthe corner, shaking like a big

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piece of tin.
You know, and yes, the, the menwho were putting together
Chucky.
One of them ends up completelyfried.
Because, things go wrong.
Yeah.
He was touching the machine andhe gets heated across the room.
Does he does, he does a backflip through a window.
And, uh, you know, when you're,w that's how I would do it, I
would, I would get heated withstyle.

(12:19):
A thousand percent.
However, I will say, this is oneof two special effects in this
movie that doesn't work for mein terms of makeup, because he
doesn't look all that crispy.
He doesn't look all that fried.
It's just like blood smeared onhis face.
He's he is bloody.
Yeah.
He likes, stuck his face in ajar of raspberry jam.
That's what it looks like to me.
but, uh, he died and that.

(12:42):
Probably doesn't look good forthe company.
It doesn't.
And I can't decide if thatcounts as the first like Chucky
death or if that's just like acoincidental death, you know?
I'll give it to them.
You'll give it to them.
Yeah.
Cause I mean, if Chucky wasn'tcoming back to life, Then, you
know, homie would still bealive.
Wouldn't have happened.
Wouldn't have had the raspberryon his face.

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No raspberry on the face.
So, uh, right out of the gate,we do get a death.
And while this is happening, weget to meet Andy as he is now.
And he's playing like go fish orsomething with a psychiatrist or
psychologist or a brain doctor.
Yes, the man who was a braindoctor, somebody who asks way

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too many questions andinvalidates his feelings because
he's telling Andy that it wasall just a dream.
And basically teaching him howto repress and suppress.
The trauma that he went through.
Yeah, Andy has pretty muchfigured out that the only way
that he's going to get through,I mean, he's what eight.
Ten eight.
I think he's like eight.
Yeah.

(13:45):
He's he's learned that he kindof has to say, oh yeah, I guess
it was just a dream.
In order to be like left alone.
Simultaneously we have thefoster care.
Uh, principal, what are theycalled over there?
Uh, like the person, the womanwho runs the foster care.
Yeah.
Uh, Madam, Madam.
We have grace pool, who is thehead madam of.

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The foster home.
Madam of the foster home, it'sso wrong, but it's going to be
what I say forever.
Now, she's talking to a marriedcouple Joanne and Phil.
About Andy and Phil immediately.
Is not interested.
No, he's not interested in thischild.
He thinks that perhaps they'renot, capable of taking care of
somebody who has emotional andmental scars like Andy does.

(14:29):
Exactly.
And Joanne is all for it.
And grace pool is just like, Igive you kids all the time, you
know, don't worry.
They bounce back at this age,they bounce back at this age.
What a, what a healthy way oflooking at childhood trauma
bitch.
He watched how many people die.

(14:49):
Yes.
Yes.
And you're just like, it's fine.
Gonna be fine.
Take them into your home,please.
I guess that worked though itdid work because they do indeed
decide to take Andy with them.
And as Andy goes home with thefoster parents, Chucky, the doll
ends up, uh, going home withpencil neck.
Because the CEO wants nothing todo with this doll.

(15:12):
Cause he has a meeting withinvestors.
Very important, very.
He was the one in the limousine.
So, you know, it's important.
and when pencil, neck asks whatto do with the doll, right.
He says, shove it up your ass.
The words for the wise.
Right.
What do I do with this doll?
You shove it up your ass.
That's the wrong kind of toy forthat, but whatever.

(15:32):
Whatever floats your boat,buddy.
So then pencil, neck ends upwith Chucky in the car with him
because his car is full of toys,because I guess when you work at
a toy, Factory, you take themall home.
So Chucky ends up in thebackseat because there's no room
in the trunk.
And we see pencil neck driveaway.
And then we get to see Andy'sdynamic with Joanne and Phil the

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actress that plays, Joanne has avery interesting.
way of speaking, she does.
She sounds like she's doingShakespeare in a horror movie.
It's really interesting the wayshe talks and it turns out
she's, she's British.
So she went to like fancyBritish acting school and is
trying to sound like anAmerican.
But everything she says comesoff as bizarrely proper.

(16:16):
yeah, I can't remember theactress's name, but She was
upset that she did this shit,this movie, actually, she viewed
it as the low point of hercareer.
And we can talk about why later.
That's right.
Yeah, she it's so interesting.
She's a, a true thespian.
She takes, she takes the art soseriously.
Especially when she asks Andy.
Andy what's your favorite foodin the whole entire world?

(16:40):
That's great.
That's literally what she soundslike.
And after Andy says chocolate,he tells her that he likes eggs.
He likes.
Because mom used to make himeggs.
And then, uh, Phil asks Andy, ifhe likes sushi.
And while Phil is mansplainingthe concept of sushi to Andy, he

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almost kills everybody in thefucking car.
By crashing into a good guy.
Semi-truck yes.
The semi-truck has the right ofway.
I'm assuming and turns out infront of them.
And here's Andy in the back seatlooking at this truck as it
passes him.
And what's on the corner or theside, rather of the good guy
truck, but an enormous doll.
Yes.

(17:21):
That's it, the little wavething.
And, uh, this poor child isjust, you know, consistently
faced with this image.
How ominous to, he doesn'trealize.
We understand the foreshadowing.
But, but little Andy is just,you know, trying to figure out
what sushi is.
So after this, they get back totheir home.

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Which a lot of people rag onthis home for it's terrible.
Interior designing and colorscheme.
It, it does kind of look likePepto-Bismol threw up on the
walls.
It reminds me of my grandma andgrandpa's house.
It does.
It feels this place feels verynot child appropriate.
Right?
Like there should be.
Um, plastic on the furniture.

(18:05):
A hundred percent, but what Iwill say and what I meant.
I brought this up last time.
What I will say is.
This is a trans house becausethe walls are painted with the
trans flag colors.
I, now this is something Ididn't notice.
but yeah, it is a, it is atransgender home.
I don't know if that wasintentional on their production

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designers part.
I don't know, but that's my headcannon.
This is a trans home, and I feellike Joanne would accept a trans
child.
I think she would accept anychild.
She she's.
Desperate, she's desperate for ababy of her own.
Which we come to learn later,but yeah, because what happens
now, like they walk into thehome.
They tell Andy.

(18:46):
I think you brought this up isthey tell Andy, make yourself
comfortable and then just lethim go and then just leave him
alone.
And they walk into the home.
He's got his little suitcase.
And they say, make yourself athome.
And then they immediately turnaway from him and start having
their own conversation and leavethe little boy all by himself.
Just walking around the livingroom, looking at things.
And there's no, like, let meshow you around or would you

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like to see your room ornothing?
They're just like, all right, goahead.
It's almost like they'vecompletely forgotten that he's
there.
Until he touches something thatthey don't want him to touch.
Right.
And then all of a sudden they'rethere to parent.
Exactly.
Cause there's this littlechotsky that is placed.
So low towards the ground, likeit is conveniently child height

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placed.
And Andy goes to touch it.
And Phil comes in with nano norule number one.
Don't touch that shit.
Yeah.
Why would you have things likethat in our home where that you
bring children into regularly?
They're, you know, apparentlyfoster parents that, you know,
turn out children a lot.
So, um, rule number one.
Probably should have been statedbefore.

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It was needed.
Maybe we should have a talkabout the rules now that you're
here in the home.
But then Joanne tells us thatthis Chachi is very important to
her because her greatgrandmother gave it to her
grandmother who gave it to hermom who gave it to her.
And then Andy being the curiouslittle kid that he is asks well,
who are you going to give it to?
And I feel like that was a punchin the gut to Joanne.

(20:14):
There's kind of an oppressivesilence there for a minute.
And we, we realize that perhapsthere's something going on here.
Exactly.
So.
They end up taking Andyupstairs.
And.
Joanne made him these curtains,my ass.
Exactly it.
Yes.
They walk into the room and shesays something about, I made

(20:35):
those curtains for you.
And we're kind of led to believethat they didn't even know that.
They were going to be takingthis child home until that day.
So that kind of sounds like alie to me.
Yeah.
And she also says, I bet yourfavorite color is blue.
Maybe this isn't a transhousehold.
Right, right.

(20:55):
Yeah.
She's, you know, But again, shedidn't know she was bringing a
little boy home.
Maybe there's a room with pinkcurtains.
And if it had been a littlegirl, she would have put them in
that room or her in that room.
I mean, I don't know how sheidentifies.
Yeah.
I mean, who knows?
Like, I, she, I feel like shehas probably a room for
everyone.
My god, there's room foreverybody.

(21:16):
Let's just say that.
There's one that's green whereyou're just like, I don't know.
I don't know.
There's one, that's yellow forpeople who are in the water
sports.
Like.
When you take home thosechildren.
Anyway.
Uh, those ones get the BetsyWetsy, the Betsy Wetsy doll.
That's an entirely differentmurder movie series.

(21:37):
It's terrible.
Anyway.
While Andy is investigating hisroom.
He goes into the closet and getsassaulted by our good guy doll.
He most certainly does.
And of course he has areasonable reaction of terror
and panic and fear, 100% hefreaks out.
And so he tries to run out ofthe room and then fuck ass.

(21:59):
Phil comes in.
rule number two, no running inthe house.
Now, this is a child that you'vejust been told.
You know, has had thisexperience with the good guy
doll.
You think you'd want to maybe.
Take that away.
Hide it, put it somewhere elsewhere the kid isn't going to
come face to face with it, butno, no, they, they, Kind of feel
like Andy should just be okaywith the fact that this thing

(22:22):
that traumatized him.
And, you know, put his mother ina institution.
he should just be okay with it.
Yeah.
Well, Joanne says, oh, I'm sosorry.
So many kids come through here.
I didn't even know that was inthere.
It doesn't sound like the truthto me.
I don't trust her.
They're just.
Simultaneously.
with pencil neck.

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we see him driving along.
And the rain and, he gets aphone call or he calls someone
something, he's got a phone inthe car, very, very fancy.
So, you know, he makes money.
He makes that, that toy money.
And, He has a fancy date thatnight, but he forgot to pick up.
The vodka.
That's what it is.
He's got to stop and pick upvodka because he knows what that

(23:04):
does to her.
That's right.
I know what that does to you.
And he hangs up and he's like,fuck.
He clearly forgot that.
Yeah.
He forgot the vodka.
And back at the foster home, wemeet my, probably my favorite
character in this whole, thiswhole movie.
And probably one of my top fivein the whole series.
Yeah, and we meet Kyle.

(23:25):
Oh, Kyle, tell us about Kyle.
Oh, Kyle.
My love, um, Kyle is also afoster kid, but about 17 years
old because she does make areference to, you know, Having a
job and needing to make moneybecause next year she'll be
she'll age out of the system.
And Kyle is this bad ass.

(23:45):
one of those, one of those girlsthat when I was, uh, you know,
10 year old girl watching thismovie, I didn't know if I wanted
to be Kyle or be with Kyle, youknow, Like one of those, those
tough looking.
The final girl feels, you know,I think Christine Elise is the
actress that plays her.

(24:06):
And she says that Kyle is verymuch like the tough chick with
the heart of gold, with a heartof gold.
Yes.
Yes.
And, you know, it's funnybecause I recognize her from
something and it's because Iwatched the original Beverly
Hills 90210 because I'm not old.
And she played a character namedEmily on it.

(24:27):
Wow.
And I remember.
Vaguely, you know, I have thisrecollection of this character
and again, being like, There issomething about that.
Actor then I just am enamoredwith, I think it's the jawline.
she's very attractive first off,like my goodness.
She's 59 years old now, andshe's just gorgeous.
1000%.
But I also think, yeah, just herenergy.

(24:49):
She's just so effortlessly.
Cool.
Kyle is so cool.
That's it?
And smokes.
So, you know, like, oh, that wasa sign of coolness.
At that time, I will never be ascool as Kyle.
I would love to be, but I don'tthink I'll ever be as cool as
her.
It's it's just Kyle, But Joannewants Kyle to make dinner or

(25:09):
help her make dinner.
And then Kyle talks about howshe wants to work because she's
on her own next year.
And Joanne just does not supportthat.
No, no.
Joanne wants a family dinner.
Despite the fact that this youngwoman is trying to do something
for herself, that's reallyimportant.
So after that, we are back withpencil, neck, back with pencil,

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neck.
In the pouring rain, he finds,there's nothing else in this, on
this block, except for a storethat says liquor on the corner,
you know, on like a liquor onthe corner.
Why didn't that just strike meas.
It's around the corner.
Like.
Who on the corner?
I don't even know her.
It's a decent, um, but there's aneon sign that says liquor.
And so he stops the car and heruns out in the rain.

(25:53):
And it goes into the store andit turns out that, um, he can't
actually purchase a bottle ofliquor because they don't take
cards.
They only take cash and he's gotone of those fancy, I can't
remember what it is.
Gold card, gold card.
As good as cash he says.
Um, and the, and the man saysnot here.
And unfortunately, no, no Vodkafor pencil neck.

(26:14):
Sorry, Gabriela.
I guess we won't know what thevodka does to you.
That's right.
oh, but while this is happening,Chucky.
Chucky climbs from the back seatand remember how the fancy car
had a phone.
Well, he calls from that fancyphone, the foster home.
And.
Grace pool.

(26:34):
Fails.
The security test.
Oh yes, absolutely.
Because Chucky is just like, Ineed to know where Andy Barclay
is and she's like, Andy doesn'tlive here anymore.
And so Chucky's like, well, thisis his uncle Charles.
Charles, and I guess that's allthe verification she needed

(26:56):
because the next thing we get isChucky fucking holding Uh,
squirt gun.
To pencil neck's head.
Once he gets into the car.
Any hijacks it to the address.
Yep.
That was it.
Well done.
Grace pool.
You single-handedly set thismovie in motion.
That's right.
If she'd have been like, well,you're going to have to come in
so we can see someidentification.

(27:17):
Nope.
Nope.
Instead just like here's theaddress?
Write it down.
It's wild.
So Chucky does hijack this carand it's so funny cause you
commented on how weird it is.
Well, it, to me, it struck me ashow pencil neck was so calm.
I mean, he's, he's nervous.
There's a gun to his head, but Ithought he was so chill about
the fact that there's thistalking toy doll.

(27:39):
Holding a gun to his head, butthen you brought up a good
point.
I think that.
I think the way that theydirected it was supposed to be
like, he doesn't realize it's adoll.
I don't know how, because theblocking is so fucking weird.
Blocking is weird.
And plus like, anytime you lookin the rear view mirror, you're
going to see who's behind you,you know?

(28:01):
So you, but you could be rightthat, you know, he just thinks
that there's a person in the carholding a gun to his head and he
can't see it because it's behindhim.
Who knows.
He ends up driving to the fosterhome during a dark stormy or
rainy night.
Oh, yes.
And.
This is when we find out it's awater gun, cause Chucky squirts
it on his face.
And then there's that moment ofawkward laughter.

(28:24):
Were there, they're bothlaughing.
I think that we discussed thispreviously where, horror and
comedy their, their bedfellows.
They're strange bedfellows.
And, that release where hestarts laughing is what you do
sometimes when you're scared,You might scream, but then
usually you also laugh becauseit's a relief where you're like,
oh, I'm not actually in anydanger.
So pencil neck.

(28:45):
You know, get squirted with awater gun.
Must think I'm not actually inany danger, but he doesn't
realize that.
It doesn't take much for Chuckyto kill a person.
As it turns out he is very muchin danger.
Chucky goes back to his rootsbecause he is known as the lake
shore strangler.
And last movie, we did not getany strangulations or
suffocations.

(29:05):
But not on tonight.
Chucky.
He gets a plastic bag andfricking suffocates pencil neck,
and is laughing like a maniacthe entire time.
Yeah, we get a great BradDouriff.
Laugh.
See, this is one of the reasonswhy I like child's play to so
much because we cut thebullshit.
We get to the good old Chuckyaction right away.
It does happen pretty quickly.

(29:27):
Pencil neck is dead.
Yep.
And there maybe.
A block away from Andy's newhome.
They're definitely somewhere insuburbia near the home.
So Chucky makes his way to thefoster home while Joanne is
reading.
A story to Andy.
Joanne is reading Hansel andGretel, which is, you know, A

(29:49):
terrifying story.
And not one that I would read ona dark and stormy night to my
foster child on his first nightin my home.
But you know, it is a classic.
I guess.
And I remember you mentionedthis last time, so I like to pay
attention to the stories thatparents or people read in horror

(30:10):
movies, because.
In most cases, there's going tobe some sort of thematic
relevance, whether it's likesuper doodoo, pretty on the nose
and just like kitschy or if ithas some sort of deeper.
Subtextual meaning.
And you pointed out and Hanseland Gretel that the bad person,
like the villain, like, ofcourse there's the witch that's

(30:31):
like super hungry, but you know,if you're food insecure, don't.
Don't be judged.
That's right.
Don't judge people who are foodinsecure.
If the, which has got to eatthe, which has got to eat, she
had to eat.
But the true villain is thestepmother you mentioned.
Right.
Right, right.
You.
We think of the bad guy fromHansel and Gretel is being the
witch, but it's really thestep-mom who wants to get rid of
these children.

(30:52):
And takes them out into thewoods and abandons them there.
And, you know, that's, to me, Idon't know that I necessarily
clocked that when I was a kidand I was being introduced to
the story.
But as an adult now, I'm like,oh, that's the villain.
That's the true villain of thestory.
And it's so interesting because.
We have kind of a step motherfigure.

(31:14):
Who's a revolving door.
Of childcare.
Maybe Joanne.
Maybe Joanne bakes the children.
Maybe that's why there's so manykids that Phil does say that
she's a good cook.
Oh, scene, look at what justhappened.
That's my head Canon done.
Done.
Done.
Done.
Anyway, Joanne doesn't want tofinish reading the story to Andy

(31:37):
because it's too close to homenow.
Um,, Right.
Cause she's hungry.
Because she's hungry.
she doesn't want to finish thestory and Andy's she just like.
Stops midway through and she'slike, and they lived happily
ever after.
And he's like, uh, No.
I think that's how that goes.
And she goes, it is tonight.
And Andy's just like, pleasedon't go.
Like I miss my mom.

(31:59):
Right.
And he asks her if he's evergoing to see his mom again and
Joanne.
I hate the fact that shepromises him, that he will see
his mother.
She doesn't know.
She doesn't know, like Iunderstand trying to soothe a
child.
But that's not your promise tomake mama.
so, you know, this poor kid.
Is scared.
Because of his life experiences,but also because of the storm.

(32:22):
And she does say that she willstay with him for as long as he
wants.
And she sings to him, which issweet because I guess Karen
mama, Karen used to sing toAndy.
And while this is happening, weget this fun shot.
Over the railing inside of thehome.
And we see Chucky standing outthe bottom of the stairs looking
absolutely disgusted.

(32:42):
Yes.
He's, he's really disgusted bywhat he sees.
It's.
It's like an adorable scene.
So it's gross to him And he endsup running headfirst into Tommy,
Tommy.
That's the name of the othergood guy dial the one that
terrified, Andy earlier.
And Tommy of course says, hi,I'm Tommy.
Want to play something likethat?

(33:02):
Chucky say.
Shut up stupid.
And he like punches them to theground and then grabs that super
precious chotsky that Andy isnot allowed to touch.
And beats the shit out of Tommywith it.
Just wreck's face until both theface and the chotsky are broken.
Of course, of course, because.
Again, foreshadowing.

(33:25):
The chotsky being low enough fora child to grab.
That was also low enough forChucky to grab.
And so Chucky takes the body outback and another cool shot of
Chucky burying Ms.
Doll underneath the swing.
Laughing again, like a maniac,right.
And he buries Tommy with thistoy shovel.

(33:46):
So it's just so, so this is oneof those moments that's
incredibly campy.
Because he's just, committedmurder, even though it was a
doll, but it was still veryviolent.
And at the same time he'sburying, it looks like a play
school shovel, you know, I'msure it's probably a good guy
shovelers or something likethat.
But it's a moment of like, Thisis humorous.

(34:07):
Are we supposed to be laughingor should we be scared?
Maybe both.
That's right.
It's both.
It's so fun.
It's so great.
I'd love how much maniacalChucky laughter we get in.
So they do.
And I can just envision BradDouriff in a studio, just in
front of the microphone andthey're like, okay, go.
And he just laughs hysterically.
And then they stop it andthey're like, okay, we need one
more and he has to do it again.

(34:27):
You know, like it's just sogood.
Brad Douriff is fuckingphenomenal.
so yeah, Tommy's dead and Chuckyis now slithering into his
place.
And the next day we see a verydisappointed Phil.
With a broken Chachi and He isinterrogating Kyle and Andy,
because he knows that one ofthem broke this precious,
precious chotsky.

(34:48):
It was either.
You know, Kyle or, or Andy, Imean, who else is in the house?
So he's telling these kids thatthey need to come clean and
neither of them broke it,obviously.
So, he ends up doing this thingthat I hate.
I hate it so much.
And he decides that sinceneither of them are going to be
truthful, he is going to punishthe both of them.

(35:09):
Blanket punishments are noteffective.
You hear that parents ofAmerica, teachers of America.
People of America and the worldthat's right.
More than America, more thanAmerica globally, he does that
whole, well you're both aregrounded.
And Kyle has a date that night.
Yes, Kyle has a date.
She can't be grounded.
But alas, they are.

(35:30):
And now they're sentenced to awhole day of chores.
Andy and Kyle get to have somecute little sibling bonding time
in the basement while they dolaundry.
While Kyle is smoking.
Yes.
Cause she's a cool kid.
And.
This is where we learn a littlebit more about how Kyle has been
dropped from foster home tofoster home.
And she's trying to give Andysome foster Lee advice because

(35:53):
she knows that the system'sbroken and Andy, while.
A little bogged down from thereality that he lives in.
She still sees him as somebodywho is so fresh and green.
So she wants to give him someadvice, which I think is sweet.
It is sweet.
There.
There's a bonding moment betweenthe two of them, you know, cause
she could be really mad at him.
Blaming him for breaking saidtchotchke game, but she doesn't

(36:15):
really seem to be no, shedoesn't.
I don't know that she's botheredby much.
Yeah, I don't think so either.
And one thing else that, I'llmention, I really like this and
I'm sure it's intentional.
Kyle is the only character inthis movie that sees Andy as

(36:36):
like an actual person, not assome sort of broken and capable
child.
Like she has actualconversations with him.
She validates his emotions.
She gives him advice.
Like she sees Andy as a humanand I fucking love that.
Yeah, she does treat him like athree-dimensional human being.
Whereas everybody else treatsthem as.

(36:56):
Just a child or just a brokenchild she actually, seems to see
his humanity in a way that.
the other folks in the moviedon't really focus on.
So I'm going to show that shehas Andy hold her cigarette
while she puts the clothes inthe dryer, which I think is so
funny.
She was like, here, hold this.
Yeah.
And Andy takes a big old drag.

(37:16):
What else is a kid going to do?
You're handed a cigarette.
Yeah.
Come on.
I mean, I, I took my first hitof a cigarette when I was like
five.
Yeah, I probably did too.
Yeah.
Just the curiosity cause you,you watch adults do it.
And you know, Kyle, when shesees that Andy took the hit, she
was like, you can't do that.
It's bad for you and Andy.
He's like, but adults do itright.
You do.
Or you do it.

(37:36):
And what does she say?
Adults can do things that arebad for them.
sure.
They certainly can.
So which Andy responds.
You're not an adult, which is sofunny because I do, I see her as
an adult.
I know she's a teenager, but Isee her as an adult.
Yeah.
When I was a kid and I watchedit, I was like, oh, she's gotta
be in her thirties.
Kids can't judge age at all, youknow?

(37:57):
I thought she was a grownup.
Yeah, me too.
after Andy takes up smoking.
He goes upstairs and we getanother like piece of weird
blocking where Joanne and Philare talking shit about.
Well, Phil's talking shit aboutAndy and Joanne is listening and
kind of defending and Andyoverhears, this he's like Pekin.

(38:20):
Around the door, which isclearly in their line of sight.
Right.
It's another moment where they,the characters in the I don't
turn around.
They just don't see what'sbehind them.
Yeah.
The.
Uh, as it happens to be.
But Andy overhears, Phil,basically saying again that they
are not equipped to handle Andy.

(38:41):
That's a fun drinking game forthis movie.
All that's a good one.
Yeah.
Every time Phil says we're notequipped to handle this child,
take a shot.
Andy realizing that they viewhim this way.
And after hearing Kyle say that.
Foster homes hardly work out.
He doesn't want to get thrownthrough this system.
So he goes, and he grabs thegood guy doll.

(39:03):
Well, first, he goes up to himand says, I hate you, which I
think is so funny.
He walks up to the good guydolls.
I hate you.
And then the doll says, hi, I'm.
Tommy his little eyes gosideways while he tries to
remember the name of theoriginal doll that he murdered.
It's so fucking funny.
But I guess it worked becauseAndy ends up picking Chucky up

(39:24):
and going into the kitchen andmaking a whole scene about how
he's holding this good guy dollto Joanne and Phil he's already
figured out how to manipulatethe situation so that he doesn't
get like in trouble or, orbrought back to the, The home
where the MME is the mat, thehome where the Madam is.
I told you, I told you that Andywas manipulative.
He.
He is a little manipulative.

(39:44):
I just want to say, and justbecause I know this because I
edited that goddamn footage.
When I was talking about howlittle six year old Andy was
making his mama breakfast inbed.
To manipulate her into givinghim the present.
He's a manipulator.
just because you feel bad forhim doesn't mean he can't be a
manipulator.
Chugga, chugga.
True, true.
He ends up going out back withKyle and.

(40:06):
They have more sibling time andthen Kyle takes a break and sits
on the swing.
And they get all playful.
Yeah.
Andy asks if she wants to push.
And she says no, and he pushesher anyway and says something
like too late or something.
And she's pretending that shedoesn't like it, but she's,
she's.
Enjoying it, you know, and asshe's swinging on this swing,

(40:28):
we're reminded that rightunderneath the swing is the body
of Tommy.
Good old doll corpse.
That's right.
And we get to zoom in on Chucky,looking down, like with panic in
his plastic, little eyes.
Just cause he's like, don't findthe body yet, baby.
And they get called in fordinner and they run in and, and

(40:50):
Andy brings his doll so now it'snighttime and Andy is going to
bed and Chucky's in his room.
Joanne is sewing for Kyle, whichthis is I'm.
I have complicated feelingsabout Joanne, me too.
I really like her because shedoes stuff like this.

(41:10):
Like she is making.
Something for Kyle.
And she doesn't have to.
And she asks Phil, if theyshould get something for Andy to
help him feel more settled in,and that motherfucker says a
value.
Oh, value them.
Yeah.
That's what's going to help Andya value.
Oh, but that's, that's what Ilike about Joanne, but it's
also.

(41:31):
I feel like Joanne.
Is more in love with the fantasyof having children.
Then the reality of havingchildren and we'll kind of see
how that plays out later.
And Phil probably just shouldn'tbe around children.
Honestly.
He's a Dick.
While this happens, Chucky.
Ends up tying Andy up.
And we don't see this.

(41:51):
We suddenly cut to the bedroomand there is an eight year old
boy tied spread Eagle to hislittle bed with, I think it's
bunched up socks shoved in hismouth, like a little ball gag.
And, I guess he didn't wake upduring all of this.
I mean, kids do sleep prettyheavy, maybe he did have a
valley.
Maybe.
I mean, God, he's waking up,like he's at the Eagle.

(42:12):
Yes.
I see is some kinky shit.
What a shock.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
It is jarring it's.
Can you imagine how terrifyingit would be?
To wake up in that situationwith, with a maniacal doll.
It would be.
Pretty pretty upsetting.
And so this is where Chucky'sjust like, Hey, Andy.
Right.
We, you know, Chuck, he comesout, he comes out of the.

(42:35):
Toy chest as Chucky instead ofTommy.
and so he's just like, alright,it's time for me to put my soul
in your body.
And we get the first attempt atour famous incantation.
Uh, day do a dumb.
Give me the power I beg of you.
And of course he's interrupted.

(42:56):
As, as always.
This time by Kyle climbing infrom her date.
She went on her date anyway,even though she was grounded.
She climbs in through Andy'swindow, which I find
interesting.
It is.
It is interesting.
And so when she climbs in Chuckyfreezes back up, And she sees
Andy tied to the bed andobviously she's confused.

(43:17):
Yes.
Yes.
Which is a good reaction.
But she, doesn't understand howit happened.
which is a valid.
Concern.
I think she thinks that he didit to himself.
I think she does.
Yeah.
And she goes to untie him.
And it's so funny because assoon as he's on tide, he just
wails on talking, just puncheshim right off the bed.
He he's had enough.

(43:37):
Yeah.
And he's screaming, he'sscreaming.
And of course, Phil comes in.
And he's just like, what thefuck is going on here?
He thinks that Kyle tied Andy tothe bed because she wanted to go
out on her date.
And she thought that Andy wouldtell on her and like all this
stuff.
I know.
Feels kind of making up asituation there, you know?
Yeah.

(43:58):
The whole time.
and he's just like, no Chuckydid it.
Chucky did it.
Chucky did it.
And it feels like, you knowwhat?
Fuck it.
And he grabs Chucky and he takeshim down stairs and he throws
Chucky into the basements.
Literally throws him down thebasement stairs.
We got the shot of Chucky, justbasking in the Moonlight.
And he sits up and, oh, he'sfucking bleeding.

(44:20):
He's bleeding already.
Um, so he realizes he has such alimited time.
To go through with this becausehe's about to fully become
human.
And in doll form.
Dahl human Dal human.
The next morning.
Again, it's, there's justsomething about.
The halfway.

(44:42):
Next morning in these movieswhere they pretend like nothing
happened the night before.
That's right.
They do do that.
Cause last movie, Marty, MaraShino.
Reno.
Died.
And.
Karen takes Andy to school.
Like no problem, like nothingever happened in this time, Andy
woke up tied to his bed.
There was this whole kerfufflewith Phil and they're just going

(45:05):
to school.
Time to go to school.
Yeah, nothing happened the nightbefore.
If you deny it, it didn't occur.
Um, typical suburban family.
Andy of course is frustratedbecause nobody believes him he's
back in this situation where theadults in his life.
Do you not believe him at thispoint?
Not even Kyle.
Right.
You know, and you know, I thinkKyle is skeptical, but she's

(45:27):
just like, how did you do that?
How did you tie yourself to thebed?
Is impossible.
It would have been impossiblefor this boy to do it.
I'm sure there are people outthere who are like, that's not
impossible.
But for him, yes, it would havebeen impossible for an eight
year old.
Absolutely.
And so Chucky gets on the bus.
It's his first day of school andhe immediately starts getting
bullied.

(45:47):
Yes, the moment he gets on thisfucking bus.
Like someone like slaps him orthrow something at him.
And as the bus drives away.
We get this fun, little shot ofChucky's feet dangling from
underneath the bus.
Just kick it again.
That's one of my favorite Chuckymechanics, when they try to show
that this isn't just like astill doll that we threw on set.
This is a living thing.

(46:08):
The feet always kick.
Always kick.
So do mine.
Barely.
I barely ever touched the floorwith my feet.
So they're constantly kicking.
It was like, dude.
And every time I do it now, Ithink a Truckee.
As you should.
Yeah.
Chucky is the original shortking.
That's right.
He really is.
So, um, you know, we, we see,uh, Andy getting bullied on the

(46:30):
bus and then of course he'sgonna have to go to school and
deal with the same bullies.
So he ends up in a class beingtaught by what is the teacher's
name?
Mrs.
Kettlewell Kettlewell that'sright.
And I like this actress.
because as soon as I see her, Ithink of to Wong foo, thanks for
everything, Julie Newmar,because she played Loretta in
that, But she just looks exactlythe same.

(46:51):
She's one of those characteractors that when you see her,
you're like, oh, that lady.
Ironically whose name?
I don't remember.
I don't either.
But she's great.
She's lovely.
Except she's not lovely because,she and Andy have a little, as
you said before, kerfuffle.
One of the bullies flickedAndy's ear, and Andy stood up
for himself as you do, as youshould, as you should.

(47:12):
And Ms.
Kettlewell walks on up and shestarts giving Andy a hard time
saying that his main.
Concern should be getting on hergood side.
Good.
Fuck you dollar store NancyReagan.
Yes Right.
She has that pin on just say no,just say no, I'm going to say no
to your no.
I'm going to raise, your no andgive you a fuck.
No.
Well, DARE was a huge thing.

(47:34):
You know, dare, dare to keepkids off drugs.
DARE to keep off drugs.
DARE to just say no.
Was that a thing?
Oh, dear, to keep off drugs.
oh my goodness to let our mindsand bodies grow.
Wanna try some crack?
No way.
Jack PCP will thrill.
yah Nah, that stuff'll kill yahAre you serious?
I was.
Indoctrinated oh my goodness.

(47:55):
I've never heard that before.
Yeah.
We sang it as a choir in fifthgrade wanna try some crack.
Y'all sang wanna try some crackas a choir, the fifth grade?
Yeah.
That's probably the, that's thepinnacle of my music career
actually.
My goodness.
PCP I'll kill.
Ya know, that's the full.
LPC deal thrill.
Yeah.
Yes.
PCP will thrill ya.

(48:15):
Nah, that stuff will kill you.
Well, I'm gonna have to, learnthis little Diddy.
Yeah, I'll send you the YouTubelink, please do you can turn it
into a number.
Oh, my God.
It will be amazing.
Common.
If you want us to do a daretheme song.
Number.
That would be so fucking funny.
I used to have the shirt.
Yeah.
I used to be the president ofthe drug prevention club in high

(48:35):
school.
Oh.
And I quit after two weeks to gosmoke pot with the rest of the
theater kids.
So it didn't work.
That song didn't help.
Not at all.
and neither does the just say nobutton.
No, no, it doesn't.
Yeah.
So while they're in recess,Chucky is like digging through
the papers.
Right, right.

(48:55):
And he finds Andy's paper.
And decides to add a littletreat to it.
A little extra something,something.
In a red cran, of course.
Yeah.
It says, fuck you, bitch.
Which is hysterically funny tome.
It's another one of thosemoments where you're like, is
this supposed to be funny?
Is this campy.
I mean, it feels campy.

(49:16):
so when Mrs.
Kettlewell sees this, obviously,She's livid and she blames, Andy
for it.
And Andy.
It's like I did not do this.
But, you know, no, not all ofthe adults are failing, Andy.
So nobody takes him seriously.
Nobody actually listens to him.
Nope.
And Andy realizes that Chucky isin the toy box of this

(49:37):
classroom.
And Ms.
Kettlewell is just like, no, notoys, no Chile.
She grabs Chucky and locksChucky in the closet.
And then she.
Shoves Andy's face into thedesk.
Kesher does.
And she's like, you are going tostay here and she locks them
into that room.
Totally safe and legal.
Yeah.
Safe and legal as if they're,you know, if there was a fire.

(49:59):
It's fine.
Sorry, buddy.
She leaves and then Chucky is inthe closet and he's like, Andy,
I promise I won't kill anybodyagain.
Let me out of here.
You fucking Dick.
Like, it's so funny.
The things that he says to thatkid.
Are shocking.
You know, to, to here.
lines of dialogue, like that'dbe directed at a child, it was

(50:20):
like, whoa, very jarring.
Yeah.
It's so funny because I'm soused to Chucky as a character.
Now that that just seems likenormal.
I couldn't imagine what it wouldbe like to see that for the
first time, not having thisculture of Chucky being, uh, a
foul mouth, little.
It and, and, you know, the notonly is this.
The cute doll at saying thesethings, but when it's directed

(50:42):
toward Andy, you know, I'm sureit was, adults were like, oh,
Oh, this makes me feeluncomfortable.
Yeah.
Good job.
To on that's right.
It's why you're so hot.
Yes.
But Andy.
It doesn't fall for these, theseguys's in these tricks that
Chucky is throwing his way andhe climbs out of the window.

(51:03):
Just in time for Ms.
Kettlewell to come back into theclassroom and realize he's not
there anymore.
And she of course thinks thathe's now in the closet.
He's not in the closet.
Another impossible thing.
She locked the closet.
Right.
How would he have gotten intothe closet?
Yeah, I don't know, but youknow, we're the suspension of
disbelief.
Well, here we are watching akiller doll and we seem to be

(51:26):
okay with that.
Yeah, that's great.
So, I guess, you know, shethinks.
That he's in the closet andisn't Chucky, like shaking the
doorknob.
So of course, you know, shedoesn't think it's the doll.
She thinks it's the kid.
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
It's so funny.
She has the key to the closetand she's like, Andy opened this
door right now.
And she was like, she's likeknocking on it and like trying

(51:47):
to open it.
She's like open the door rightnow.
It's like, bitch, you have thekey.
Yeah.
Okay, Ms.
Kettlewell probably needed toretire a couple of years ago.
Yeah.
She should not be a teacher.
But she ends up coming to andrealizing that she has the keys
to the store.
She ends up going inside and sherealizes Andy isn't there.
But who is there?

(52:07):
Chuck.
Yeah, baby.
This is one of those kills.
That's also like in my corememories of Chucky.
Isn't really Yeah, I justthought it was pretty cool.
it's scary.
The, the shots that we get inthis sequence are.
Such a wonderful showcase of thepuppetry and the artistry for
Chucky.
And they focused on that so muchin this scene.

(52:29):
That they fell behind and theyhad to do some rewrites.
That's really cool, which is whythe actress that played Joanne.
I was so upset about this moviebecause the scenes that we lost
were her scenes scenes that toher really informed her
character.
And I think that that is whatpissed her off to the point
where she's like, this is theworst movie I've ever worked on.

(52:52):
But honestly, it's kind of worthit.
Cause chalky looks so fuckingcool here.
Pretty looks so fucking sick.
Cause what he does is he takes abike pump to that.
I'm gonna say bitches, that'sgonna ruin.
That's very rude.
He takes a bike pump to.
Homicide Nancy Reagan.
He takes a bike pump to Ms.
Kettlewell's chest.

(53:14):
And knocks her back.
And she's on the ground lookinginto the closet and Chucky's
marching out of this closet witha fucking yard stick.
And that does you just the wayyou moved your shoulders?
Yeah, it looks like when he'scoming out of the club.
It's so bad.
And he's like, you've been verynaughty mist, Kettlewell smack,

(53:36):
and it's literally burned in mybrain.
I see that.
And he ends up beating her todeath with the yard stick,
which.
Painful, definitely painful andprobably a long death since it's
not like it's a yardstick as aparticularly heavy.
You know, so that must havetaken awhile.
Yeah.

(53:56):
So much so that like, as they'rewrapping up the scene, we just
get zoom out further and furtherand further until we're on the
other side of the fence.
And you still see that stickgoing up and down.
Honestly.
Ms.
Kettlewell's a real bitch whogot what she deserved.
Where you go.
That's exactly it.
Not aunt Maggie.
No, no.
And Maggie didn't deserve tofall out of a window.

(54:16):
No, but Ms.
Kettlewell just say no.
Just say no, just say no.
So post Kettlewell death, we'reback at the foster home.
And Andy runs in and apparentlyMs.
Kettlewell called Joanne andPhil to let them know that he
wrote some obscenities.
On his homework.
Fuck you bitch.

(54:37):
This is, this is impressivebecause.
Phil takes Andy to the basementto show him that Chucky is still
there.
And Chucky is actually stillthere.
So.
I don't know how the hell Chuckymanaged to beat someone to death
with a yardstick and with hislittle Chucky legs got home
first got home before Andy,like, did Andy stop for ice
cream on the way?

(54:57):
Like what happened?
It's entirely possible.
I mean, Kids get distractedeasily.
And I love the fact that notonly did he beat him home, but
he was, he had the wherewithalto be like, I should go lay down
on the basement.
Yeah.
I'm going to go right back towhere they left me.
See, Chucky is smart.
Y'all Chucky is.
So fucking smart.
Yeah, it feels just like, yeah,Chucky's there, you're a menace

(55:18):
to this household basically.
And then he and Joanne get intoa big argument while Andy and
Kyle listened from the otherroom.
And this is kind of sad, right?
This is where we learn that.
Phil views.
These kids that they're takingcare of is taking care of other
people's kids.
And, that they've been on a listfor adoption for quite some
time.

(55:39):
And I think they get bypassed orsomething.
I wonder why.
Right.
It's probably because somebodymet Phil and, we do learn that,
Joanne is in Cape, I guess,maybe in capable of having
children.
I mean, it's not ever reallystated or specifically, right.
That's probably the scene thatwe lost.
If I'm being honest.
That would make sense.
Makes sense for that to go.
But, yeah, it's just, it isimplied that Joanne is incapable

(56:02):
of bearing children.
Especially with their dynamic.
It doesn't seem like it hasanything to do with Phil.
Right.
You.
And Phil is just clocking herJoanne's obsession with wanting
to have children.
And it's just, it's, it's anugly fight, unfortunately.
And the whole, when he saidthat, The taking care of other
people's kids thing.
I was like, Ooh, gosh, that'sjust not a.

(56:25):
Uh, view that I would want tofoster parent to have, you know,
you want to take this child inand it be the kid kind of be, I
don't want to say becomes yourown, but it's becomes family.
Yeah.
That's how I feel aboutchildren, but it becomes family.
And he's obviously viewing it asthis is still somebody else's
kid that, now we got to takecare of it.

(56:45):
It becomes family.
It does.
That's so funny.
I, you know, I don't want togender it and see it.
I don't know.
I don't want to say.
I don't know, it's just there.
It's there.
Little tiny.
There's a little it's unlessotherwise implied.
And while this is happening,Kyle is trying to comfort Andy,
by saying basically the onlyperson you can count on is

(57:05):
yourself.
Which I get where she's comingfrom.
Oh, for sure we, we know thatthat's how she feels about her
life so she's imparting thatwisdom on to eight year old
Andy.
So Andy though is just like, itdoesn't matter everywhere I go,
Chucky's going to find me.
And so that night, Andy, oh,God, I love this little child
decides to take matters into hisown hands.

(57:28):
It goes in the kitchen and grabsa fucking Turkey, Carver.
Oh, one of those like black andDecker's, you know, again, one
of those things that was reallypopular in, in 1990 and, they
just have it in it's a littlelike charging station or holding
station on the counter, on thekitchen counter.
I've got an eight year old childthere.
Why not just leave it out.
Yeah.
We used to call it a black andDecker, Becker wrecker.

(57:49):
Wow.
Yup.
And Andy's about to go wreck apecker.
Chucky's.
That's right.
That's his plan.
Andy goes into the basement tofind Chucky and, it looks like
he's learned how to handle sharpobjects better than he did last
movie.
Yes.
Cause he only trips over stufflike a couple of times.
This is coordination as he growsup is getting a little bit

(58:10):
better.
Yeah.
And my favorite thing that hedoes, he opens up the dryer and
there's like a pile of laundryin there and he just takes the
Turkey Carver and just like jamsit into the clothes in the
dryer.
I thought.
I'm not taking any class, any,any chances?
So while Andy is searching,Chucky just drops down from the
ceiling.
And just like starts attackinghim.

(58:31):
Andy takes the Turkey Carver andgets Chucky writing this fuck
ass, Bob.
Yes, right.
and all, while this ishappening, Phil is upstairs and
he overhears this kerfuffle.
Here's the kerfuffle, thekerfuffle.
I don't think I've ever saidthat word before and now I've
sent it twice.
Yeah.
It's going to be that's the wordof the episode?
No.
Ooh, we should have a word ofthe episode.

(58:52):
That's a good idea.
And then every time we say it,it could be on the bottom of the
screen.
Kerfuffle.
Can you spell kerfuffle, use itin sentence.
The origin, please.
Oh gosh.
What is the origin of kerfuffle?
That's a good, I don't know.
White people.
Yeah.
Same thing.
Yeah.
So.
While this kerfuffle ishappening.

(59:12):
Phil goes downstairs and he seesAndy standing there with the
Turkey, Carver, and then he isscared because we already know
how Phil feels about Andy atthis point.
He obviously thinks he's amenace.
And now the menace is armed.
And so he slowly starts walkingdown the stairs, creaky wooden
stairs.
You wouldn't stairs.
And we see Chucky grab this.

(59:35):
Hook, right.
It's like a hook.
I don't know why they have it,like a whole kind of pole.
It's like one of those thingsthat you would use when, like
you go to the bodega and youhave to get the toilet paper
from like the top shelf.
And you just grab it and youlike a handle, like it's one of
those things.
But metal.
Yeah, it looks like to me, I waslike, what?

(59:55):
Like fishing boat.
Did they get that off of, yeah,I don't know.
Well, whatever it is, it'sperfect for killing.
Oh, that's a good killing me.
I could kill and weapon.
Yeah.
Cause Chucky goes from behindthe stairs and hooks it around
Phil's ankle.
And that sends Phil tumblingover.
The stair rail.

(01:00:17):
And for a moment he's justhanging there upside down.
And then finally he's likeface-to-face with Chucky.
Right.
He has a moment where heactually gets to see that Chucky
is a real.
He's the real menace.
It's not Andy.
Nope.
And this is where we get.
One of the one-liners thatreally solidifies Chucky as
Chucky's.
Uh, silly little goose.

(01:00:38):
His comedy career.
As Phil's hanging and herealizes, Everything that he did
that led them to this point.
Chucky's just like.
How's it hanging Phil.
How's it hang and fill, and thenhe drops his ass and boom.
It breaks his neck breaks hisneck.
Yeah.
I see.
It's a, it's a good death.
It's a cool kill.
But it was, I still just wantedmore from both of these.

(01:01:02):
I see both sides on one hand.
I think Phil, I would have lovedto have seen Phil have a more
elaborate.
Gnarly deserved.
Yeah, however, I think.
They're still needed to be someambiguity.
On Joanne's side as to whetheror not Phil was like murdered.

(01:01:23):
Cause it seems like it was anaccident.
It doesn't seem like Phil wasmurdered.
Right.
So if, if Phil had had some sortof gnarly death, Then we
wouldn't have this moment whereJoanne runs downstairs and just
basically says, fuck you toAndy.
And Joanne gets very preoccupiedwith her dead husband.
Yeah.
She's like, it's so interestingto see how she went from this

(01:01:45):
loving attentive.
Person that wants to be a motherto just being like, get away
from me to this child.
And I've always wondered if thatwas because she thought that
perhaps he had something to dowith Phil's death.
I mean.
I guess so, but it's, shemight've just like blamed him
for the fact that Phil went downthere and fell and fell down.
Right.
So he actively killed Phil.

(01:02:07):
But yeah, this wouldn't havehappened if you weren't here.
Exactly.
And that's very much, I thinkwhat leads to her turning cause
it's pretty nasty.
It sucks.
Cause she's just like get awayfrom me.
Get away from me.
And immediately grace pool.
Is there the worst foster Madamever?
And she's taking Andy back tothe foster home.
Because Joanne just wantsnothing to do with this child

(01:02:29):
anymore.
Returns and exchanges accepted.
And before leaving Andy turns toKyle and he's just like, be
careful.
Chucky's still out there.
And he goes back to the fostersystem.
Just like that, and Kyle isoutside on the swing set.
Having a little cigarette.
Being pensive.
And cool and so cool.

(01:02:49):
Really cool.
And on her way out there, shethrew Chucky in the trash.
Right, right.
She.
She at least wanted to get ridof Chucky.
I think she's the first personin the Chucky franchise to throw
talking in the trash.
Yeah.
Yes, she is.
I'm pretty sure she has.
Yeah.
Um, which shows she has a brain,right.
Right.
Whether or not she believesAndy, she's not taking any

(01:03:10):
chances.
Yeah.
She was like, just get rid ofthis fucking doll.
And while she's having hercigarette being.
Oh, so cool.
On the swing set.
She unearths the carcass ofTommy.
Uh, the body of Tommy has beenfound.
And so she realizes FAC FAC.
Fuck.
And he was right.
And she runs over to the garbagecan and she opens it up and.

(01:03:32):
Ooh.
What a surprise, Chuck.
He's not there.
So she immediately goes toJoanne.
And she grabs a little pocketknife to protect herself.
And as she's going to check onJoanne, we hear the sound design
here is great.
We hear the sewing machine, justlike chicken, chicken, chicken.
Whatever, whatever sounds sewingmachines make.

(01:03:52):
Yeah.
And, as she goes to check onJoanne, she turns the body
around and Joanne is dead.
Um, gagged and bound and thelittle strip of catch up across
her neck.
She does have a little strip ofcatch-up on her neck.
So we don't actually see thisdeath, but we know that Chucky's
responsible for it.
I actually, this is the secondspecial effects that I don't
like in this movie.

(01:04:13):
There's only two.
The first.
Electrocuted guy.
And then this.
About this don't you like?
It's literally just a smear ofright across her throat.
And she's also pale.
Right, right.
How long has she been dead?
Exactly.
And if she was bled out so muchthat she was as pale as she was,
when there'd be more blood isliterally just like a boop.
Yeah.

(01:04:33):
It's like the kind of likethroat slit that you would do if
you were like five years oldplaying with your siblings.
And you grabbed the ketchuppacket and you were just like,
oh, What a five-year-old.
Yeah.
I didn't do that when you werefighting.
You know, maybe seven.
Okay.
Yeah.
Some of us mature faster thanothers.
So, yeah, Joanne's dead.
And we get one of my favoritethings in a horror movie, which

(01:04:55):
is when the killer is hiding ina room.
And they were hiding in a waywhere it's like, they very
intentionally.
Picked something up and drapedit over them.
Or they very intentionally likeset up this scene because Chucky
comes up on from underneath thebed sheet.
And all I can think of when Isee this happen is like the

(01:05:16):
moments before the protagonistenters the room and the killers
just like running to theirhiding spot.
Like.
T it was like, that's what mybrain does when like it, same
thing with fucking, um, I knowwhat you did last summer when
the fishermen like is with themannequins and he's on the
plastic, I'm just like, Thatmotherfucker is a grown ass man.

(01:05:37):
And he draped himself inplastic.
Just for funsies.
For funsies.
It's so fun.
That is fun.
I just really thought about itlike that before.
Yeah.
Just those moments before.
it's hilarious.
And that's what Chucky did.
Chucky's hiding under the sheetand he rises up behind Kyle and
they get into a little fight.
And I think both of us enjoywatching actors fight with

(01:06:00):
inanimate objects.
Especially when it's a littlefeeder kicking on the back.
Just to show us that it's alive.
So it's not just, you know,being tossed around like this
little ragdoll, you know, andit's not like the first one
where it was like a hand puppet.
It's like attacking yourselfwith your own hands.
eventually Chucky does get theupper hand.
And hijacks Kyle and thevehicle, I guess, Chucky can't

(01:06:22):
drive in this one.
I guess.
He does drive eventually thereare, there are driving.
Yeah.
Where somebody is working thepedals and somebody else's
steering.
Yeah.
Oh, I guess he doesn't havepeople.
Just him.
Just him.
So he needs somebody to drive.
So he kidnaps Kyle.
And it's trying to go to thefoster home to get Andy.
But Kyle gets pulled over.
Kyle gets pulled over, the copturns on the lights behind.

(01:06:44):
Kyle and Chucky says florid andKyle says, get real.
It's a station wagon, which islike quintessential eighties,
nineties, like teen humor.
Where it's like, this is afunctional car for families.
This is not a cool car that canlike go fast.
Right?
What are you going to do?
You're going to outrun the copand you're a little station

(01:07:05):
wagon.
No, no.
So Chucky's just like fine.
Pull over.
And so the cop comes in.
And asks for a license andregistration.
And immediately loses his shitover this fucking doll.
What a loser.
Yeah.
You know, It brought him back tohis childhood.
Yeah.
He's like, Hey, is that one ofthose good guy dolls?

(01:07:26):
What's your name?
And.
Chucky just turns his head andhe's just like Chucky.
It doesn't even, it doesn't evenput on the good guy facade
anymore.
And then Chucky starts bleeding.
He gets a nose bleed.
Yeah.
And the cop was just like,what's that?
And we get this little referenceto the original child's play

(01:07:46):
script.
Where Kyle is like you heard ofa doll that can pee.
This one can bleed, which if youlistened to our last episode,
the original child's play wasall about a blood buddy doll
that actually bled to teachchildren like responsibility,
how to take care of something.
And I think that's just one ofthe many ways, and we'll see

(01:08:07):
this as we progress to thefranchise.
But Don Mancini just like, heloves to recycle.
So, Hm.
Take a shot take.
He loves to recycle.
Cause he, if there's any ideasthat he wanted to use, that he
could not use due to whateverkind of constraints he will
bring them back when he canlater.

(01:08:29):
Right.
And that is the kind of thingthat makes him so.
Uh, attractive to me.
He remembers things.
He remembers things.
That's all I need.
Somebody who remembers things.
So.
The cop ends up letting them goand.
He tells Kyle to buckle up,which to me is obviously a
foreshadowing kind of thing.

(01:08:50):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
They mentioned that for areason.
Yeah.
Because while they're driving,Kyle's just fed up with Chucky's
SAS.
Cause he's still workshoppingstuff.
Right.
He's not, he's not super funnyyet.
and she just slams on her brakesand Chucky just flies out the
window, just.
Yeah, that.

(01:09:10):
That's what Chuck he does.
And so she has put on her,seatbelt and, now Chucky's not
in the car anymore.
No, he's fucking feral.
Oh, yeah, we get feral checking.
My favorite thing is feral.
Chucky.
I fucking love Harold Chucky.
He jumps up and she goes to.
I hit him and he jumps out ofthe way.

(01:09:30):
And she crashes into the gate.
Gets out of the car andrealizes, oh shit.
The foster homes, like rightthere.
Of course, of course.
Right in front of the fosterhome and Chucky, for some
reason, ends up hijacking heragain.
I don't know why he doesn't justkill her at this point because
they're already there.
Right.
He doesn't really need heranymore, but he, for some reason
he doesn't kill her, maybe.
Maybe he thinks he needs her.

(01:09:51):
It's probably cause he just, heknows that she's just so cool.
That's right.
He doesn't want to kill the coolgirl.
So instead he hijacks his coolgirl.
And which means he's likehanging on her back with a
little knife to her throat, tothe NAPE of the neck.
Yeah.
And they pull the fire alarm.
At the foster home and everybodyevacuated except for Andy and
grace pool.
And.

(01:10:12):
Andy knows what's going on.
But grace doesn't.
grace sees Kyle and instantlythinks that Kyle's the one that
pulled this alarm because Kyleis a bad kid, a bad kid.
So the Madam takes.
Kyle and Andy and Chucky.
Checking into her office toscold them.

(01:10:32):
I don't know.
There's a fire alarm going off.
Right.
They should all be evacuatingthe building.
Yeah.
Even if you don't think thatit's a real fire alarm bitch,
you're going to get fined.
If the fire department getsthere.
And you have two children lockedin your office with you.
Come on.
This.
This whole movie is a safetyviolation.
It absolutely is, but it is trueto the time.
Fair you.

(01:10:53):
It was very accurate.
So this lack of safety, concern,bites grace in the ass because
she goes to grab Chucky andChucky doesn't waste any time.
He immediately just jumps tolife and just like, boom, stabs
her in the chest.
Yeah.
And she falls face first into acopy machine.
Yes.
Yes.
Copy machines again were all therage.
And we get this great.

(01:11:13):
effect of her slowly dying whilethe copy machine starts, you
know, photographing what'shappening to her.
So all these papers are comingout of the machine and we see
her face, you know, she'spressed up against them.
The glass and, it's a C thisdeath I think is cool.
I was going to ask how you feltabout.
Yeah, I like this.
It's creative.
It's clever.
And, it's invasive.

(01:11:35):
If for some reason I'm like sadpeople.
You know, don't just suffocateor, you know, trip and fall.
I wanna, I wanna see Chuckyactively, killing someone, which
I guess he does with a yardstick, but we don't really see
it.
That's true.
Yeah.
I love a creative kill.
Yeah, for sure.
That's my thing.
I'm like Tiffany and bride ofChucky.
We'll talk about that.
When we get there.

(01:11:55):
So, yeah, she does die in myhead.
Like as she's we can't hear itbecause she's screaming and
dying, but all I can hear is.
As she's like sliding off ofthat surface.
Rest and peace grace pool.
That's right.
You did not do your job well.
Not well at all.
So after this happens, Kyletries to drag Andy out of the

(01:12:17):
office, but Chucky slams thedoor between them and he ends up
taking Andy.
Out the window and into the backof a newspaper truck, newspaper
truck.
Yeah, and this one's like fullof shit too.
And Kyle realizes this andpursues in the station wagon,
which luckily wasn't damaged inthe crash.

(01:12:38):
Yeah, not at all.
So the entire time they'redriving Chucky has Andy just
lying flat on his back in theback of this truck.
And he's like trying to do hisTombola while Kyle is just
honking like a maniac.
And Chucky just looks up andflips her off with this tiny
little, tiny little finger.
And Kyle just like, fuck it.

(01:12:59):
And she drives around and shecuts off this newspaper truck.
So dangerously.
It's very dangerous.
And the truck does stop and thedriver is furious.
So aggressive.
I have a problem with this.
We talked about this last time.
We both feel the same way aboutthis.
This driver is so aggressivewith her and it's like, I get it

(01:13:20):
right.
She.
Cut you off.
And that is a dangerous thing todo.
But why would you.
Make the creative decision.
To cast.
The only black man in your movieas this nameless aggressive
person.
He's might be the only person ofcolor in the entire movie.

(01:13:41):
well there might be children inthe, in the home, but, certainly
the only speaking character.
And, it's.
An angry black man.
And it just kind of like, Ooh,It's not cute.
No, it's not a good luck.
No.
But Kyle gets away.
And she, where are they?
Where are they?
This is the best fucking setpiece for a finale.

(01:14:03):
That we could have asked for.
Fun.
I did.
Oh, I love it.
That was an accident, but thankyou for making it sound like.
Intentionally.
Yeah for a finale.
Uh, they're at the good guyfactory, baby.
Yeah.
Yes.
So Chucky and Andy are runningto the good guy factory and the
gate is closing and Kyle'strying to catch up to him and

(01:14:25):
she does the super bad-ass coolgirl roll under Indiana Jones
moment.
And she mixes it under the gate.
before it closes and now they'relocked into what most certainly
is the biggest OSHA violation.
There could be.
Now, this is one of those.
Moments in this movie where Iwas like, okay, What on earth is
happening here?

(01:14:46):
What is this movie?
What does it want to be?
And it's the moment in the moviethat you love the most.
It this, this whole third act.
It's so great.
And, you know what I think myfeelings towards this movie are
probably based exclusively onthe third act.
Really.
I can understand what you mean,where it feels that there's some
sort of disjointed situationbetween this suburban.

(01:15:11):
Shitty adults metropolis.
And this primary color.
toy land.
But it's just so good.
This.
It is fun.
This final act is amazingbecause the first thing we see
is a maze of good guy, dollboxes.
Like we're talking hundreds likethis must, they might, they have

(01:15:32):
to be gearing up for blackFriday.
That's right.
There's so many fucking good guydolls here.
And so Chucky knocks Andy out.
And starts to do, starts to dohis thing He finishes the whole
thing.
This is one of the few times.
One of the few times Chuckysuccessfully.
Recites the incantation.

(01:15:53):
But alas.
It's too late.
it's too late.
Chucky has been in that dollbody for too long, and now he is
forever a doll.
That's right.
And he bellows to the heavens.
And from this point through theend of the movie, Chucky is
fucking feral.

(01:16:14):
He is absolutely livid.
He has nothing to fucking lose.
This is my favorite version ofChucky.
I love it when Chucky loses hisfucking mind.
Is this like your favoriteferal, Chucky?
Are there other movies that haveferal Chucky moments in them?
This is the most feral Chucky.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, this is so that's probably,this is my favorite feral

(01:16:34):
Chucky.
Favorite feral, Chucky.
Say that to me.
Yeah.
French has Friday.
Favorite Pharaoh, Chucky.
So what ends up happening isKyle drops a bunch of these good
guy boxes onto Chucky.
and he's just like, what thehell?
It's great.
And when he jumps up, he's like,he's screaming, he's Farrell.
And he just like his hair'slike.
It's a wild it's so fuckinggood.

(01:16:54):
And Andy and, Kyle get reunitedand they are now in the conveyor
belt area of the factory.
This scene reminds me of theopening scene of Pee-wee's big
adventure.
I don't know if you're familiarwith it.
I hadn't seen in a long time.
You know, it's, He, he likewakes up in the morning.
And everything happensautomatically.

(01:17:17):
Like it's like kind of aconveyor belt.
His breakfast gets made like,it's this really cute, but it
was such a it's very tropey tothe time.
And yeah.
Now we're in this like almostlike a carnival world.
Of, how this doll gets made.
And it just reminds me of,what's the name of the guy who
did beetle juice and Tim Burton.

(01:17:37):
Thank you.
I was like Tim Robbins.
No, not him.
Tim Burton did Pee-wee's bigadventure.
I believe.
And, that's kinda what thisfeels like.
It, it, it gives me that like,oh, somebody really weird made
this, Which is why I love it.
Absolutely.
But I see your point.
Yeah.
I don't dislike it.
It's just like, what, what arewe doing?
Okay.
It's very bold.
Like they, they committed.

(01:17:57):
Because it is like, Thelogistics of this factory don't
make sense.
It's all style.
No substance.
Yes.
Proven by the fact that there'sliterally no way out of where
they are currently at.
Beyond going up the conveyorbelt slide right into the other
part of the factory, which isclearly how the workers get in
and out every day.
Absolutely.

(01:18:18):
Can you imagine clocking in foryour shift and just sliding
down?
Like.
Willy Wonka, Charlie and thechocolate factory feel to it.
That's fair.
That's totally fair.
Like.
People probably die there everyday, but it's kind of fun.
Five deaths a day.
Yes.
It has been zero days sincethere have been deaths at this
company.
Exactly.
Especially after this.
Kyle and Andy climb up thisconveyor belt, but Andy slips.

(01:18:43):
And he's sliding down.
And of course, Chucky pops up atthe bottom of this slide.
Andy catches himself and hestarts climbing back up and we
get this great moment of tensionwhere Chucky has this knife and
he's like, Climbing after Andyand just like, as Andy moves his
foot Chucky stabs down where itused to be.
It's really fun.
And they end up closing thisgreat or the gate on Chucky's

(01:19:06):
hands.
And it's just, it's so gross.
Chucky ends up.
It's like 127 hours.
Right.
He rips his fucking hand off.
Because he's human now.
So it's not just like cuttingoff a doll's hand.
Yeah.
And that's putting off a little.
Tiny human doll hand, it kind oflooks like Twizzlers.

(01:19:27):
And like, Hawaiian punch.
It probably is.
It's nasty.
so yeah, he ends up his, he ripshis own hand off and he, Takes
the knife and he shoves it inhis little stump and duct tapes.
It says.
I mean, who wouldn't think aboutthat?
I mean, it's, it's like Ash inthe evil day.
Absolutely.
Lose a limb.

(01:19:48):
Replace it with a weapon.
You'll never be sorry.
Uh, cherry darling and planetterror.
And stripper with a machine gunleg.
Come on.
Well, this is happening.
Andy and Kyle are still tryingto find their way out.
Of this fucking factory.
And again, the only exit doorthat they see is on the other
side of a piece of machinerythat installs the eyeballs into

(01:20:10):
the dolls.
Yeah, very, very safe.
Yeah.
The biggest OSHA violation inChicago, a thousand percent.
And so they end up having toclimb through a narrowly
missing, getting eyeballsinserted into whatever part of
their body.
And the doors fucking locked.
So it was all for not all fornot.
we see the worker, is this whenwe see the worker?

(01:20:31):
Yeah, because they ended upcausing a doll pile up.
Right.
Because they, they ruined the,they mess up the conveyor belt,
traffic jam.
So instead of the dolls beingmoved through with this conveyor
belt, now we've got a wholebunch of dolls that are stuck.
So obviously the only worker inthe building, um, cause the rest
of them died.
Yes.
They're all dead.
It's only the one guy.
They have a huge turnover rate.

(01:20:53):
it goes to see what's going on.
Yeah, he does.
And he goes to, I guess the onlyway he can fix it.
It's to lay down inside of themachine.
Right.
And that's how he's going to fixit.
Yes, but alas, as he sits up.
Chucky slashes him across thecheek with his stump knife.
I stumped knife and homeboyfalls back onto the conveyor

(01:21:15):
belt and he gets a new pair ofeyes.
Yeah.
That's a good way of putting it,which you know, is, the
throwback to the beginning ofthe movie where we see Chucky.
Trying to get his, his new eyes.
And now we're watching the samething again.
Yep.
Except this one's not assuccessful.
No, no.
Nationally.
Not, not as good, but, butpretty cool.
Yeah.
I was going to ask, does thisdeath live up to your standards?

(01:21:36):
Does yes.
It's a good one.
This is a good one.
So homeboy dies.
And Andy and Kyle and up seeing.
Another weird part of thisconveyor belt.
Where it's it's like, a pyramidand the apex, right?
You have a conveyor belt goingup and the conveyor belt going
down and there's this chamber atthe top that I could only

(01:21:59):
describe as like a death chamberdeath chamber is a good way of
putting it.
It has all of these mechanicalarms that like insert doll parts
and stuff, and we discover.
Through an accident.
That it just creates a mess ofwhatever goes in there.
Cause Andy accidentally reversesthe fucking what's it called?
Conveyor belt conveyor belt.
And after we make thisdiscovery.

(01:22:19):
We get Chucky just convenientlyplanted himself on one of the
doll stands.
And the conveyor belt.
Another one of those things.
That's just funny.
It's just like Chucky, likerunning up, just like, Hey.
And just like standing there,like a mannequin.
But he ends up coming along theconveyor belt behind Andy.
And immediately.
I don't know how this happened,but the machine that staples the

(01:22:42):
hair into the head of the dolljust starts going for Chucky's
junk.
And it's staples him too.
The platform that he's standingon.
And with this new informationthat we learned about the death
chamber, right?
Andy reverses the machine.
And as Chucky is going up, whatdoes Kyle do?

(01:23:05):
Oh, yeah, that's right.
I was like lights, a cigarette.
She gives Chucky the bird.
Burt and a callback to whenChucky flipped her off.
Yeah.
And so they're watching Chuckyhead up to the death chamber.
Once the doors close, all we seeare just like these arms going
in the mechanical arm things andBrad Dorf.

(01:23:27):
Man.
Just screaming, bloody murder.
Again.
I see him in a studio justyelling his head off.
It's so good.
So they reverse it.
Right.
Cause you got to think about thefact that Chucky can feel it
now.
That's true.
That's true.
You can feel that pain.
which is why he's screamingbloody murder.
And we end up seeing theaftermath and it's really nasty.

(01:23:48):
Like it's just a bunch of meltedplastic and arms and just like
bloody legs, just all in likethis.
Pile.
Like a Chucky pile.
Yeah.
Like a Chucky pile.
You exactly a chunk of bloodyChucky chunk, a bloody.
That sounds like a song.
I'm going to write a song calledchunk of bloody Chucky.
That's going to be how much Iloved on Nancy.
Yeah, obviously.

(01:24:10):
It's a, it'll be a ballad.
the ballot of chunk of bloodyChucky.
Uh, Uh, The Jeff chamber in myheart.
I love it.
It's already getting written.
It writes itself.
So we see the chunk of bloodyChucky and Kyle and Andy thinks
that they're done, obviously.
Yeah.
They start doing what wouldnormally be like en sequence

(01:24:31):
dialogue, just like, oh, thanksfor coming to get me.
Are you okay?
What's that?
And it's a horror movie.
It is a horror movie.
Removing removing, and wediscover a pool of blood.
At the base of the deathchamber.
With a streak going across thefloor.
So you know what that means.

(01:24:52):
It's not over yet.
We've only had one death.
I don't know how Chucky managedto do this.
But homeboy that died in theeyeball machine.
Got strung up by his feet.
And he was laid out like a propout of fucking haunted house.
Right.
And it's like Kyle and Andy madeit past the trigger point and
then it swings down and knocksKyle out.

(01:25:12):
Yeah.
It's a violent, dead body.
Very violent.
Kyle gets knocked out and she'son the conveyor belt.
That's leading up to the deathchamber.
It's Kyle stern.
Meanwhile, Chucky.
Is now very actively pursuingAndy he's on, uh, a wheelie
cart, right?
And he's like using one arm, hisone good arm to like scooch

(01:25:34):
himself towards Andy.
He's like, when I catch you, I'mgoing to cut your legs off to.
Such an empty threat.
Like, as he's reeling towardsyou, you could just keep taking
steps backward.
Yeah.
And what ends up happening?
Final OSHA violation.
There's this huge VAT of meltedplastic that just dripping all
over the place.

(01:25:55):
So safe and there's a releasevalve that releases directly.
Into the open floor of thisfactory.
Yeah.
You, you need that.
You gotta have that.
I mean, it's convenient rightnow because Andy fucking, the
pops that sucker open and Chuckygets co it's like a boot cocky,
just coded, covered.

(01:26:15):
Yep.
No loads refused.
I mean, that's not how Iwould've put it, but you're
exactly correct.
Thank you.
I know.
So Chucky is perceivably dead.
And then, uh, another meltedchunk of Chucky.
Melted chunky.
Chunky.
Yeah.
And now it's time for Andy tosave Kyle because Kyle is still
heading up to the death chamberand just in the Nick of time, of

(01:26:36):
course, of course we can't kill.
Uh, sibling.
No, no.
And Kyle is a final girl.
Like you could tell the secondyou meet her, you know, she's so
cool.
Yeah.
Plus you don't kill children inthe eighties?
No, you really don't.
Unless it's like pet cemetery.
Right, which is the whole.
Right.
Yeah.
The whole point.
And you're also bringing themback to life.

(01:26:57):
You know, in pet cemetery.
So it's like, you're kind ofallowed to kill it.
But see, I said it is, yeah.
All the it's.
Yeah.
Speaking of Stephen King, it.
Yeah, right.
Where do any of those childrendie?
Um, not as children, but.
But, uh, well, It's easy for youto say it depends on which

(01:27:18):
version if you watch the, miniseries from the nineties.
I don't think, I think maybelike one kid died.
I mean, Georgia dies.
Right.
But in the one that came out afew years ago, He does die.
He gets his head cut off.
Yeah.
But that's also.
The arts or not the arts, that'sthe teens.
Right.
So different time.
Anyway, Kyle is saved.

(01:27:40):
That's right back to the movie.
Back to the movie, Kyle is shefinds salvation.
Through Andy and.
She's checking out this justpile of goop and she's like good
job, Andy.
Right?
But of course, Chucky has onefinal art to give and he jumps
up and starts attacking Kylelooking like a fucking peanut

(01:28:01):
butter monster.
He reminds me of pizza hut from,It's baseball.
So, yep.
I can see that he looks to melike a garbage pail kid.
Ah, yes, a garbage pail kids.
Yes, garbage pail.
Kids are fucking sick.
Y'all yeah.
If you don't know what that is,Google it.
Yes.
Melton Melissa telephone, Tony.
Uh, flame.

(01:28:21):
Flame and James.
That sounds right.
Leaky Lindsey.
I remember the visuals.
I don't remember any of theirnames.
There's so many good ones outthere.
and that's what chalky lookslike.
Yes.
Chunka Chucky.
That's.
Jackie.
This is his garbage pail kidsname.
so he's attacking Kyle and as itturns out, this is what happens
to be a conveniently placed airpressure tube, right there.

(01:28:42):
Emitting air pressure, right.
Kyle.
Shoves it into Chucky's mouthand his head starts to inflate
like a balloon.
Yeah.
Bigger and bigger.
He kind of looks like aLemonhead.
Lemonhead or Stewie from familyguy.
Who also looks like a limithead.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
And his head gets bigger andbigger and you see the panic on

(01:29:04):
his face.
It's kind of funny.
The look of concern that theartists put on Chucky's face
when they were making balloonChucky.
I'm very effective.
He blows the fuck up.
Yes, he does.
It's a big old explosion.
And.
He ends up.
His head's gone, but his body.

(01:29:25):
Ends up kind of freezing in thegood guy pose where it has like
the one hand up.
Like he's waving.
And, that's the end of themovie.
Uh, pretty much.
Yeah, that's it.
Kyle and Andy walk out of thefactory because the gate somehow
goes up, magically opens.
Yeah.
And there they have nowhere togo.
And it's like a drone shot, butI don't know if it was a drone

(01:29:46):
or a helicopter.
And, you know, we see it fromabove as they're walking away
and they have this little bit ofdialogue.
about what are they going to donow?
And what does Kyle say to that?
We're going to go home.
Where's home.
Andy.
I have no idea.
Actually kind of sad.
It is sad.
When you think about it, theyhave nowhere to fucking go and

(01:30:06):
you know, they're going toprobably get separated.
You know, wherever they do endup and, and it is sad.
When I initially watched it acouple of weeks ago, when I knew
we were going to do this.
I was like, they didn't write anending of the movie.
You know, like they did thishuge third act and all of a
sudden it just ended.
And I was like, oh, I would'veliked, I.
I don't need a resolution, butit just kind of felt like they

(01:30:27):
were like, what do we do now?
Let's give them each two linesof dialogue and roll the
credits.
You know?
Yeah, it does end abruptly, butso does the first one?
Yeah.
You know, I mean, Chucky getshot through the heart.
And to blame you.
And it just ends with a freezeframe.
At least we didn't end on afreeze frame this time.
Yeah.
Fuck a freeze frame.
So, yeah, overall, We, I guesswe know how you feel about this

(01:30:49):
movie.
It's just, it's not my favorite,but I do think it's really
important to the series becausewe start to see the direction
that Chucky's going to go in.
I definitely agree.
It's a, it's a necessarystepping stone.
I like it because I tend to likethe, a playfulness and the final
act.
I really like that.
We just skip all the bullshitand we just jumped right into

(01:31:11):
Chucky.
We don't have to play the gameof like, is here isn't he, you
know, real or possessed orsomething, we just get Chucky.
Exactly.
and plus we get Kyle.
Kyle's great.
I fucking love Kyle.
And that leads me to my nextquestion.
Do you think this film.
has some LGBTQ.
A plus, is it, is there somecoding there?

(01:31:32):
I feel like there is, I feellike Kyle is kind of queer,
coded.
just because Kyle is not, youknow, And this is kind of silly,
but you know, Not overtlyfeminine.
and she never mentioned whoshe's going on a date with,
Whenever there was kind of atough tomboy character.
There was something ambiguousabout the sexuality there and
she kind of does give you atomboy vibe.

(01:31:53):
You know, I would agree.
I think there's Some codingthere for, with Kyle.
For sure.
You can read it either way.
If you want to read herstraight, it's easy.
If you want to read her gay,that's also easy.
Yeah, exactly.
The ambiguity is nice.
We already talked about thetrans house, right?
Yeah.
Again, I don't think it'sintentional, but because it's a
transitional home.

(01:32:14):
Oh, my shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
Maybe it was intentional.
Wow.
That was excellent.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So proud of you for that one.
I feel pretty good about it too.
Yes.
Do you have a favorite kill fromthis movie?
My favorite kill from this movieis.

(01:32:36):
The coffee machine.
Yeah, the copy machine.
I do.
It just, it, it strikes me as sofunny.
To, to see this copy machinephotographing or, you know,
photocopying, this woman is inher last moments, you know?
Because it's kitschy.
Yeah.
And I just, I enjoy the, I enjoythe catch.
I either want to see ahorrifically bloody death, or I

(01:32:57):
want a death to make me laugh.
You know, that's fair.
I'm the same way.
My favorite though, is theeyeballs.
The last eyeballs, the OSHAviolation.
Yeah, the last eyeballs.
The, insertion of them.
It's pretty great.
It's pretty and it looks sosilly too.
It looks ridiculous.
So yeah, that's, child's play toeverybody.

(01:33:17):
Let's play too wildly regardedas a lot of people's favorite.
And, you know, Don man Sini,this is when he came with soul
writing credits.
which I'm so thankful for.
And the next film child's playthree.
Came not even a year after thisone was released.
They were realizing that Chuckywas a cash cow.
Thousand percent.

(01:33:38):
So we're going to jump intochild's play three next and talk
a little bit more about that.
So, until then Donnie, where canour listeners find you?
You can find me on social media,mostly on Instagram, these days
at the Donnie CNC auto.
and then you can also look up,on Instagram or Facebook, trans
voices, cabaret, and check outsome information about that.

(01:34:00):
Cause that's pretty cool.
Yes, it is.
Fantastic.
Thank you, Donnie.
Yeah.
And where can we find out moreabout you?
Oh, little old me, you know me,you can find crybaby at
Instagram and Twitter cryingunderscore in underscore public.
And of course you can followhorror icon at horror icon pod
that's w H O R R O R icon pod.

(01:34:22):
On Instagram and the Twitter,Twitter, the Twitter.
So until next time cuties, don'tbe scared.
Unless you're into that sort ofthing.
My.

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