Curse of Chucky

Is it gothic in here, or is it just me? 

This week, CryBaby and Donnie tackle the sharp left turn that is Curse of Chucky—and babes, the vibes have shifted. Where are we? Who ARE these people? And what happened to Chucky’s face?! We’re answering all these questions, talking some shit, and revealing how our listeners really feel about Chucky’s new look. It’s a moody, broody, and fruity time baby. Let’s get into it.. 

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Episode Transcript

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (00:00):
I don't like it.

(00:01):
I, I, I, I don't, don't, I, Imore than don't like it.
I hate it.
I, I, no, I pretend that thisdoesn't exist.
So we can move on.
We can totally move

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (00:10):
Oh yeah, from that part, that
didn't even happen.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (00:13):
I have no idea what you're talking
about.
What is your book of Well,hanging out with your Smartest
and Funniest Friend.
You know me, I'll kill anybody,but.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (00:35):
Hey Cuties, and welcome back to
Horror Icon, your queerplayground for all things scary,
sexy, and stupid.
I'm crybaby the spooky slut fromyour wettest nightmare.
And we're joined today again by

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (00:47):
Donny Santo, the kind of trans man
you'd like to take home to meetyour parents.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (00:51):
Hi, Donny.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (00:52):
Hello.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (00:53):
how, how are you doing in all of this
heat?

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (00:55):
I'm absolutely miserable.
Miserable.
It's apparently 102 degrees inNew York City right now.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14 (01:01):
Which, it's, it's funny'cause I'm being
a desert baby.
I'm used to a hundred degrees,but it's like a swampy

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (01:09):
That's the thing, it's the humidity,
you know?
'cause I lived in Arizona for areally long time.
I'm accustomed to it being like110, 112.
But it's, the air is so thick.
I feel like you could go outsideand climb it like a ladder.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (01:22):
Yeah, exactly.
like I love summertime because Igrew up in the desert even if it
is this hot, I'm okay with it ifI don't have anything to do.
That's the

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (01:33):
I don't.
Exactly.
If you don't have to leave theapartment totally fine.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (01:37):
Yeah, or if I don't have to be in a
wig and makeup and a fuckingdress and all this shit.
So

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (01:44):
What a, what a day to do this.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1 (01:46):
indeed.
But it's okay.
We're cooking, we're movingforward.
I'm really excited to talk aboutthis movie today too.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (01:53):
good.
Good.
Because I, I'm excited to hearyour thoughts on it.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (01:56):
Yes, it's, I have a lot of thoughts.
I have a lot of thoughts, but,everybody to our listeners,
welcome back.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
And this is the obligatory like,subscribe.
Give us a follow, shoot us anemail, rate us, all that stuff.
Please help a podcast out, helpa Queer Baby podcast out please.
But seriously.

(02:17):
We're continuing our foraythrough the child's play
franchise, and we're gonna betalking about cursive Chucky
today.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (02:25):
Curse of Chucky, the sixth movie in
the franchise.
And, I don't wanna give anythingaway before you, you know, give
your, give your recap.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (02:33):
Yes, we do have a crybaby synopsis
coming on up.
needless to say, everybody,spoiler warning, watch the
movie, watch it, and then comeback to us.
crybaby synopsis for Curse ofChucky.
Nine years after our lastunhinged adventure with Chucky
Tiffany and their gender fluidmurder, baby Gigi, were suddenly

(02:55):
dropped into a house full ofpeople We don't recognize at
all.
Who are these people?
Why are they so tense and whatdo you mean?
Curse of Chucky and this mysterykicks off.
When a very familiar,suspiciously sized packaged
arrives on the doorstep of abeautiful gothic home, full of
secrets and terrible familyvibes, And as they mourn the

(03:16):
mysterious death of theirmother, our family and their hot
priest find themselves in themidst of a moody, broody, and
fruity murder spree.
One by one, the bodies drop.
As Nika, our heroine begins touncover a dark family secret.
And Chucky reveals why After 25years, he's decided to go after
this seemingly random assfamily.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (03:38):
Well said, well said moody, broy, and
fruity.
I'm here for it.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (03:43):
Moody Broy and Fruity Baby.
Yeah, we kind of dip our toesback into, a gothic tone, but
significantly more grounded thanbride of Chucky Gothic.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (03:52):
Oh, it's totally different.
Like you said, it's a vast tonalshift from the last two movies
that we have, you know, beenwatching.
So, when I watch this.
Again,'cause I know I watched itwhen it came out in 2013, but
when I watched it again for thepurpose of this podcast, I was
surprised.
'cause I didn't really rememberjust how drastically it, you

(04:13):
know, deviated from what we hadjust watched in, bride and Seed
of Chucky.
going into that gothic stylefamily drama thing was, was,
kind of an odd choice.
What, what do you think?

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (04:23):
I agree.
I don't dislike it because I, I,I like just like playing with
tone and perspective.
'cause for this movie we leavethe perspective of Chucky again
and we go back to theperspective of his victims,
which, interesting knowing whatwe know about Chucky now, and
for the most part.

(04:43):
I don't find myself, bored withthe premise.
'cause you know, like, wasprobably the same thing with
like child's play two and three.
At this point.
We know Chucky's alive and soit's just kind of like waiting
to get him back on our screen.
Whereas with this one, of coursewe know that Chucky's alive, but
I'm more so curious about whythe fuck we're here.
Since we weren't around Chucky'sperspective, that's what kept me

(05:06):
engaged is just being curious asto What does this family have to
do with anything?
So there's some good parts ofthat.
There's some bad parts of that.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (05:14):
Yeah, you're right.
for me, I, was immediatelythrilled when I saw, the actress
playing Nika, who is Fiona Dorf,which is just mindbogglingly
cool, because she is obviouslyBrad Dora's daughter.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (05:27):
Yes.
Yes.
I love her.
I, I do have, I have onethought.
Unfortunately, kind of a bigone, but it's just, it's true.
I cannot get it outta my mind.
We're gonna, I'll touch on thatwhen we, when we get into it,
but.
Let's go ahead.
I'm gonna bitch the pot.
I'm gonna throw out some, funlittle, little factoids and you

(05:48):
hit on one of'em.
This is when the franchise kindof starts to feel like a, a
family kind of thing because wehave Fiona Dora this film, which
is a wonderful edition.
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderfuledition.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (06:01):
she is, phenomenally talented and.
You know, it's, it's one ofthose things where you're like,
oh, oh, oh.
I'm sure there are people whoare going to say she only got
the role because of nepotism,and I'm sure that played a part.
But at the same time, she is thestrongest part of this film.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (06:16):
hands down, hands down, and I think I
could be incorrect.
I'm gonna fact check myself onthis later, but I'm pretty sure
Fiona was going to audition for.
Barb, the older sister, theyinsisted that she went for Nika,
which I think is pretty cool.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (06:34):
That's fair.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (06:35):
yeah, like, yeah, sure, nepotism.
But this is one of those fewsituations where I'm okay with
nepotism because this persondoes good work.
You know, it's, it wasn't justhanded to her, for just
meritless connections.
She actually really did somewonderful work with this
character.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (06:54):
I agree with you.
Yeah.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (06:55):
some more fun facts.
This film takes place nine yearsafter Seed of Chucky, which is
the largest gap that we havebetween movies in this franchise
to date.
did you know that Brad Dorf,speaking of just Excellence,
Brad Dorf recorded all of hislines in less than a day.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (07:11):
Wow, that's, that is pretty amazing.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14 (07:13):
That's wild.
I mean that, I guess it makessense because we don't really
start to see Chucky talk untillike 45 minutes into the movie.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (07:23):
That is true.
I mean, he's not doing, I don'twanna say he's not doing as
much, but he is certainly notspeaking as much as he has in
the previous two movies.
Just because we spent so muchtime with the family instead of
him.
But still to, to have nailedeverything in one day or less
than a day is pretty impressive.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (07:38):
Yeah, it's super impressive.
And this whole film was shot in30 days too,

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (07:43):
I did read that.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (07:44):
It kind of makes sense'cause this
film had such a small budget.
Curse of Chuckie and Cult ofChuckie both only had a budget
of$5 million, which I know it'ssilly saying like only but for a
film this ambitious or afranchise, this ambitious,
that's nothing.
Especially considering the firstfilm when the franchise had a$10

(08:04):
million budget and that was backin the eighties.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (08:07):
Right.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (08:07):
like a spending value of like$20
million.
So this movie was madeessentially on a quarter of a,
of the budget of the firstmovie.
And I have to give them props tothat because you can't really
tell in some, there's somecases, but generally you can't
really tell.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (08:23):
I would've had no idea that it was
made on a budget of$5 million,which like, again, to say only$5
million.
Like, I wish I had a budget ofonly$5 million.
But at the same time, the movie.
Is beautiful.
It looks like it was, to me madeon a big Hollywood blockbuster
budget.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (08:41):
It really does.
And I just think that speaksvolumes to, sweet Daddy Don
Mancini's, creative chops andthe commitment of everybody like
He brings his people with himand I respect that so much.
And I think that loyalty andthat quality of relationship
leads to such a wonderfulquality of work So thank you
Daddy Don.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (09:00):
Thank you Daddy Don, we love you.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (09:02):
We love you.
Uh, let's see.
This is the longest film in theseries as well,

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (09:07):
What's the running time?

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (09:09):
I, I realized I didn't write that
down.
Let

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (09:11):
I don't know.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (09:12):
I'm gonna do a quick Google search.
Let me see yourself.
Chucky runtime an hour and 37minutes.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (09:21):
I, oh yeah, we're, we're getting
close to two hours there.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (09:23):
I think, yeah, as long as we're
around an hour and 30, I'm fine.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (09:26):
Yeah, anything more than that, unless
it's Lord of the Rings, I, I'mgonna lose interest.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (09:30):
Yes.
And I, funny that you mentionedLord of the Rings.
I have, uh.
have a parallel to make laterabout Lord of the Rings and this
movie.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (09:39):
Oh, I can't wait.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (09:41):
yeah, it's, I mean, it's just really
silly, stupid, petty stuff.
But, My last fun fact, and Iwonder if this still rings true,
compared to the time it waswritten, but apparently Brad
Dorf said that this was hisfavorite Chucky movie, which

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (09:55):
Oh, didn't read.
He really, huh?
Yeah.
I find that interesting too.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (09:58):
this is, uh, this is just me,
hypothesizing here.
It has to be because it's thefilm that introduces his
daughter, right?

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (10:06):
Yeah.
He gets to work with hisdaughter.
How cool is that?

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_ (10:08):
Exactly.
He gets to see his baby fuckingkill it.
yes.
Well, let's go ahead Before wedo our quick little plot
breakdown, i'm going to talkabout the characters real quick.
'cause this is a small cast.
It's a very, it's like a singlelocation, small ensemble kind of
movie, which I do like.
So our characters, we alreadytalked about Nika, who is played

(10:29):
by Fiona Dorf.
She's our main girl.
She's paraplegic in awheelchair, living in this
badass house with her mom.
You know what, this is where I'mgonna talk about my, one of my
things with this movie.
'cause there's two big thingsabout this movie and one of them
I fucking love Fiona Dorf.
I think she is wonderful.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (10:49):
I think, I think we both feel the
same way about what it is you'reabout to say.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (10:53):
Yeah, I just, I feel some type of way
when we cast an able-bodiedperson in a role of somebody who
uses a wheelchair or has someother, disability, right?
That for me is like, it's takingaway an opportunity from
somebody who already doesn'thave a lot of opportunities in

(11:14):
the industry.
So that's honestly just like mybiggest thing.
this movie as much as I love,love, love, love, love, Fiona
Dora.
I'm just like, why thischaracter have to be the one in
the wheelchair?
Like, why couldn't we also havesomebody in a wheelchair who is,
an actor who is a real lifewheelchair user, you know?

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (11:35):
I couldn't agree with you more.
I mean, it's.
Like you said, taking anopportunity away from a person
who doesn't have a lot ofopportunities as it is, and I'm
sure that there are, so manypeople who do use wheelchairs
out there, who would've alsoslayed this role, who didn't get
the opportunity to even auditionfor it because, you know, the
opportunities don't, don'treally come their way.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_ (11:57):
Exactly, and that there's, this is a big
spoiler alert.
Not in this movie, everybody,this is a spoiler alert for cult
of Chucky.
So just keep that in mind.
I've heard some people theargument is like, well, we need
somebody able bodied because,eventually.
She does stand up, she getsoutta the wheelchair.
And so I've heard argumentsagainst casting somebody who's a

(12:20):
wheelchair user for this role,but hello.
There's people that arewheelchair users that are also
still able to stand up.
Like it's

donnie_1_06-24-2025 (12:28):
Absolutely.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (12:28):
you know, I think that's, a narrow
perspective that a lot of peoplehave you have to, cast an
able-bodied person if you want.
This character in wheelchair tobe able to stand up and it's
like, no, you don't.
There's plenty of people who can

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (12:41):
I am going to totally nerd out right
now and talk about Wicked onBroadway.
There is the character of NessaRose.
If you've seen the movie, Imean, now you don't have to have
seen the, the Broadway show toknow what I'm talking about.
The movie was such a phenomenalhit.
You've probably seen it.
She is a wheelchair user and.
The show's been on Broadway forover 20 years, and they have
always cast an able-bodiedperson to play this role because

(13:03):
she does get up.
She does stand and, and take acouple of steps in the, in the
show, spoiler alert.
And, they only recently, as inthe past, I guess, few months
ago, if I'm rememberingcorrectly.
On Broadway cast a woman who'san actual wheelchair user who
does have the ability to standand, and take a few steps.
I mean, like you said, noteverybody who uses a wheelchair

(13:23):
is completely dependent upon it.
Some folks are mobile and ableto stand and do certain things,
and, it was just, you know.
20 something years in themaking.
It took us that long to realizethat, oh, you know what, maybe
we should cast this role the waythat it's actually written.
So it's, I agree with you, youknow, that, there, this could
have been a better choice.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (13:42):
yes.
I'm glad we're on the same page.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142 (13:44):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (13:45):
more of that type of casting people,

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14 (13:48):
Exactly.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (13:49):
type of casting.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (13:50):
2025, there's no excuse.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14 (13:52):
Exact, yes, there is absolutely no
excuse.
So, that is one of my two biggripes with this movie.
We'll talk about the other onelater, but, if I were to take my
feelings about that castingchoice and just tuck it away and
compartmentalize it for aminute, Fiona Dorf is incredible
in this role.
She.
She kills it.
She's fantastic.

(14:13):
So that's our Nika Pierce.
She's a wheelchair user in thisGothic fan, uh, gothic mansion.
We also have her mom, SarahPierce.
have her sister Barbie, Barb,she's, Nikas, bitchy, moody
sister.
I kind like her.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (14:29):
Of course you do

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (14:30):
I, I hate her, but I like her.
And then Ian is Barb's husbandand then they have their little
dollar, dollar.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142 (14:38):
dollar.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14 (14:38):
Alice?
Yeah.
Their dollar.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (14:40):
Yes,

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025 (14:41):
daughter, their daughter Alice, who is
cute, but she, to me is like theannoying, kind of cute, you know
what I'm saying?
Do you know that brand of, ofkid?

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (14:52):
I, yes, I believe I do.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (14:55):
Yeah.
Spoiler alert, I, I'm not anAlice fan.
I know that's bitchy of me.
I, I'm not an Alice fan at all.
She doesn't wash her hands.
Uh, Jill, uh, we also have Jill,the, the hot young nanny, father
Martinez, the priest from thefamily church, then, uh, officer
Stanton who's Barely in it, buthe's there.

(15:17):
He's a character that we do needto, to know about.
And then of course we haveChucky, our favorite little guy,

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (15:23):
Her favorite little guy.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_ (15:24):
bastard.
So those are all of ourcharacters.
Very small cast, a very smallensemble, which I like.
I, I know for me, I am, I haveso many questions at the
beginning of this film, why arewe here?
Who are these people?
What's going on?
Why is Chucky there?
Why did he kill the mother?
Like, there's so much we areimmediately assaulted with

(15:45):
question wise in this plot.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (15:47):
Yeah.
I it.
Who are these people?
What?
That's the biggest, the biggestquestion for me.
Who are these people?

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (15:53):
Who are you people?

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (15:55):
Why are you here?
Why is he there?
What's going on?

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (15:58):
I will note that in this opening
scene we get a lot of, and thisis a kind of a theme throughout
the movie, but Infantalizing ofNika her mother and later on,
her sister Barb, that wholeconversation when the delivery
guy was flirting with Nika andthe mom was just like, oh, he's
just being nice.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (16:17):
Yeah, it starts very quickly, oh, you,
you can't take care of yourself.
And, even to the point where shedoesn't.
The delivery guy who didn'tmention the hot delivery guy,
who, you know, is there for 30seconds and is flirting with
Nika, he's legitimately making amove.
And, for her mother to just,say, oh, he was just being nice
with the unspoken part beingbecause you're in a wheelchair.

(16:39):
It's just like you said inInfantalizing, it's just so
icky.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (16:42):
It's, it's super icky.
And I feel very bad for Nika,and it's not because she's in a
chair, it's because she'ssurrounded by people who are not
supportive.
and we see that'cause Chuckyshows up at this house and later
on that night, he kills Sarah,the mother.
And first off, badass titlesequence.
How do you feel about this titlesequence?

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (17:00):
It is very, very cool.
The title sequence that's, thatspins around.
Yeah, it's very cool.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (17:04):
it, it plays with space.
We see how Dawn's directingstyle has evolved since seed of
Chucky, which it's so much moremature, so much more finessed,
more playful, I think.
But then, yeah, back to theinfantilizing.
The second the family comes inthrough the door, and I think
it's the next day, the familyand the priest all come in and

(17:27):
immediately just feel bad vibesfrom Barb and honestly, from the
pre, from pretty much everybody.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (17:36):
Right from everyone who walks in the
door, you're immediately like,oh, this isn't gonna go well for
Nika.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (17:41):
Yeah, exactly, Barb is this rich bitch
who wants to sell the house all,all already.
She, she wants to put Nika insome sort of assisted living
home because she can't take careof herself.
then she wants to sell the houseso she can send her daughter to
private school, and the fatheris on board with this.
The fucking priest is just like,have her heart set on that

(18:01):
private school, and it's justdisgusting behavior.
I.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (18:05):
Uh, what did she say something about
if they don't, you know, theyneed to sell the house because
otherwise she's gonna have to goto public school and she says
it's so, you know, it's just,uh, what a entitled nasty bitch.

crybaby-_1_06-24-20 (18:17):
Absolutely.
And she's very hypocritical too.
Like, and I

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (18:21):
Well,

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (18:22):
wait to get into that.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (18:23):
for sure.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (18:23):
yeah.
Alice finds Chucky, and thenChucky wants to know what's for
dinner.
So Nika goes to cook dinner andmore of Barb just being like,
well, you can't do that.
You can't cook dinner.
Da da, dah da.
And Nika shows her What's up?
She makes some bombass chiliwith oregano.
It's the

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (18:40):
You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say
when, when they put the mealsdown in front of everybody on
the table, I thought it waspasta just by the way that it
looked.
And, also oregano.
So a, apparently it's actuallychilly.
I don't know that I would likeit.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (18:57):
I mean, I'm not a chili fan
personally either, but,everybody else likes it.
Everybody loves this chili.
But the, the thing with thechili,'cause Chucky is helping
them quote unquote cook dinnerand we see just this little hand
pour rat poison in one of theballs on top of the cheese.
So you can't really tell.
and that's I think why it lookedlike pasta.
'cause you have those mounds ofcheese in the

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (19:19):
Yes.
It looked like pasta to me.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe I'm just so Italian thateverything looks like pasta.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1 (19:25):
Listen, if everything looked like pasta,
that's not a bad world to livein.
I'd be

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (19:28):
I'd be, I'd be happy.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (19:30):
it does look like pasta.
I do like speaking of that scenewhere they put the, dishes down
in front of everybody.
It is shot as if it's a game ofRussian roulette.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (19:41):
Right?
We don't know who got the.
And, and we just see the handssetting the dishes down, and we
don't know which one has the ratpoison in it.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (19:48):
Yeah.
'cause there's only one Chuckyran out of time.
He couldn't poison everybody.
but I think, like we all know,just because of how movies work,
like we know who's gonna get thechili.
We know who's gonna get the ratpoison.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (19:59):
Did you really I, I wasn't sure.
I was hoping it was Barb, butobviously because of how movies
work, that they couldn't killher off too early.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (20:06):
No, we have to, we have to save that
conflict for later.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14 (20:09):
Exactly.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (20:10):
the, like, who's the most expendable
character out of everybody?
The fucking priest.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (20:14):
Good point.
Mm-hmm.
Father Martinez.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (20:17):
we all know it's gonna go to him.
but the way this, this scene is.
Shot.
It's, it is kind of playful'cause everybody is reacting so
strongly to the chili.
Ian's like, oh my God, this isso good and dah, dah, dah, dah,
dah.
And just constant fake outs ofoh, this person must have gotten
it.
This person must have gotten itfor me.
That goes on a little bit toolong.

(20:38):
Do you, do you feel that way?

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (20:40):
Um, it, it does.
I mean, you know, I think he'strying to obviously build
tension, but you're right, it'sa little bit because Alice
starts saying that she doesn'tlike the chili or tastes funny.
That's what she says is tastefunny.
So now we're worried that thelittle girl has the poison
chili.
But again, not gonna kill thelittle kid.
Not first thing you know.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (20:57):
Not yet.
Nope.
I do love though, when everybodyis ranting and raving about the
chili, how Barb is just like.
Nika, can you pass the saltplease?
So passive aggressive.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (21:08):
It is passive aggressive.
Yep.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (21:11):
Oh, I fucking love it.
And that for me, that's a littlemoment where we realize oh, Barb
is probably key jealous of Nika.
Or she has some sort of

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (21:20):
Yeah, there's.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025 (21:20):
feelings.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142 (21:21):
There's definitely unresolved issues
going on there.
Barb needs a really goodtherapist.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (21:26):
She really does need a good
therapist.
She needs a really goodtherapist.
She has a lot of, a lot ofprojection and a lot of
repression going on in this

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (21:34):
Uh,

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (21:36):
but yeah, like we said, the person
that we know that's gonna getthat rat poison is, I hate
saying he's hot'cause he is kindof hot, but I also don't like
priests.
But yeah, the hot priest getsthe rat poison.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (21:47):
The hot priest gets the rat poison.
There you go.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (21:50):
I was very curious.
About just the sudden appearanceof a priest in the the Chucky
franchise and later on in thisseries how they really explore a
Catholic setting.
I just had to Google and findout if Don Mancini grew up
religious and as a matter offact, he was raised Catholic, so
that makes a lot of sense.
I feel like this is when hestarts to kind of work through

(22:10):
some of that shit because theway he kills this priest is.
It's gnarly.
'cause it's not just poisoneverybody.
It's not just like he drops deadfrom poison.
It's pretty rough.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (22:23):
It's great.
we see the priest eating the,the chili and he starts to not
feel well.
You know, he is pulling out hislittle priest collar and
sweating and, excuses himselfkind of abruptly.
it's, it's awkward the way thathe leaves, you know, he, tells
everyone, he, I think he'll seethem tomorrow at the funeral or
something like that, and gets inhis car and is, you know, and
leaves and then, We, what is theofficer's name?

(22:44):
Officer Stanford

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (22:46):
Uh, Stanton.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14 (22:48):
Stanton.
We know that there's been a caraccident and, officer Stanton
pops out of his car and lo andbehold, the priest has wrecked
his car because he's dying ofrat poison he's trapped within
the car.
And the firefighters that arethere don't want to.
Remove him from the car becauseof the circumstances that he's

(23:08):
in.
And the, the officer demandsthat they free him from the
trapped vehicle.
And, when they, they do that,his neck has been pinned down.
And as soon as they remove thepiece that's holding him
basically together, his headslices off and falls down and
rolls onto the floor.

(23:29):
It's, uh, it's very cool.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (23:30):
I'm so glad that they went that
route.
'cause like, poisoning is fine.
I think it was very playful inthis setting with the dinner
scene and everything, but justthe satisfaction of seeing the
aftermath seeing the caraccident on the way home, it's
so gory and, and, uh, it doesn'tjust kill the priest.
There's two other people thatwere involved in the car
accident that died, like you seetheir bodies on the side of the

(23:53):
street.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (23:54):
Right.
It's, it's, not just, thisoffscreen death, he died of
being poisoned or, fell down onthe floor and choked and died.
We get a, a very gory, supercool first death in the, well,
second death because Sarah, themother died.
But we actually get to reallysee this, you know, it's just
like almost overkill.
Like we poison the man and nowwe've beheaded him, but it's

(24:15):
overkill in a really deliciousway.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (24:17):
Yeah.
You know, it's a little bit of abait and switch, right?
I think a lot about like finaldestination does this a lot
where you think that it's gonnago one way and then it goes
another way.
So it was just a fun littlesurprise, and also, I guess it
was a plot device because thatpolice officer is gonna come
back later, so we needed to getto know him in like this first
act or whatever.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (24:37):
Yes, uh, it definitely is a moment to
introduce that character.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (24:40):
Yes.
And while the priest is dying,everybody is back home watching
some family movies.
I guess it's something thatpeople normally do when someone
dies.
They watch home videos and recapand everything.
But, we find out Bubu CharlesLee Ray is in one of these
videos.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (24:59):
There he is standing there with his
long hair looking all creepy andout of place in this video.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (25:05):
Yes.
Uh, very ratty wig.
And that's coming from me.
I'm like the queen of shittywigs.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (25:13):
He's, he's got a, he's got a shake and
go wig.
He's got his party city wig.
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (25:18):
He, his party's shitty wig.
Exactly.
Yeah, he's just lurking there inthe background.
So.
This is where we start torealize oh, okay, Chucky must
have a connection to this familyand they start leaving that
trail of breadcrumbs for us.
And then, oh, this time we have,'cause there's the hot young

(25:39):
nanny Jill, right?

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (25:40):
Oh right.
We almost forgot about Jill.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (25:43):
looks like a, kind of like a, a, a
combination of Amanda Seyfriedand Leo Tipton.
I feel

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (25:49):
I don't,

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14 (25:50):
people in this movie look like
combinations of people.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (25:53):
I don't know who Leo Tipton is off
the top of my head.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (25:56):
They, they were on America's Next Top
model and they left and they hadthis cute little acting career
afterwards in like the earlyteens.
So they were in crazy stupid,love They were in warm bodies,
very, very cute person.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (26:11):
I am pulling up pictures right now.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (26:12):
Yes.
LIO

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (26:14):
Oh, look at that.
Okay, you're right.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (26:17):
Yes.
Much like how the Father Ianlooks like a combination of Paul
Rudd and Henry Caval.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (26:24):
Oh, I can see that.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (26:26):
So these are all just like dollar
store babes.
That's a terribly disrespectfulstatement, but Anyway, we are
being kind of directed tobelieve that there's gonna be
some sort of infidelity betweenthe hot young nanny and Ian.
But we find out, as Jill ishelping look for Chucky.
'cause I guess Chucky wentmissing.

(26:47):
It's not Ian that's having theaffair with her.
No, no, no, no, no.
Absolutely

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (26:52):
a shock.
it's Barb.
Barb is having the affair withthe nanny.
Wow.
Hot lesbian affair.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_1421 (26:58):
Hot, hypocritical lesbian affair

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (27:01):
That's right.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (27:03):
we, get so much of Barb playing with
her little cross necklace andacting holier than thou.
'cause she's like a rich churchbitch.
it's very hypocritical.
But I love that littlesubversion, you know, that
little bait and switch.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (27:16):
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, they, they kind of makeit very obvious that Ian and the
nanny are, are together orflirting or cheating or
something like that.
So when, Barb confronts Jill andall of us just, just starts
making out with her, just eatsher face.
I was like, whoa, I actuallydidn't see that coming.
Very cool.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (27:35):
Yeah, me either.
I, I loved it.
I, I love a lesbian love affair.
Even with a bitch like Barb,

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (27:42):
That's some of the best lesbian love
affairs of my life.
Were with bitches like Barb.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (27:47):
you know what?
TTTT.
so after this, like Nick isgoing upstairs.
She starts wanting to do, she'sinvestigating where this doll
came from with the package, butas she's going upstairs, the
power goes out and she's stuckin the elevator.
And Barb is mad bitchy aboutthat too.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (28:04):
Yeah,

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (28:05):
like, oh, see, she always needs
something.
It's like

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (28:07):
the power went out.
Yeah, you bitch.
Go help your sister.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (28:11):
Go help your fucking sister.
And so when Barb goes to helpher, we get a little bit more of
that exposition dump of thething with Mika's heart, I feel
like be more consequential thanit actually is.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (28:23):
It does, it does come back once a
little bit later, but, uh, uh,you know when, when Chucky has
her in the garage.
So it is at least mentioned,although we, we don't really
know what this condition is.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (28:38):
Yeah.
It's just a condition, somethingwith her heart.
It's a plot device.
It never comes back after thattime in the garage, we get that
little bit of an expositiondump.
Oh, and then this is where moreinfantalizing happens.
Because while when Nika was inthe elevator, Chucky was on her
lap and I guess he like slicedher knee

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142 (28:55):
Mm-hmm.
Okay.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14 (28:56):
Barb's just like, see, you did that
cooking dinner, you can't takecare of yourself.
Me, me, me, me, me.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (29:02):
Yeah, because Nika doesn't feel it.
You know, and, and is all of asudden like, oh, bleeding, I'm,
there's blood.
You know?
And so yeah, Barb does theinfantilizing thing again about
how like you can't take care ofyourself.
Look what you did.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (29:13):
I feel like she's just trying to
build a case against Nika sothat way she can sell the house.
Like that's

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (29:19):
She can sell the house and put Nika
away and just forget about her.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_ (29:22):
Exactly.
when she puts Alice to bed, weget more Chucky perverting
children.
Not like

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (29:27):
Yes.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14 (29:28):
That's probably not the best phrasing.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (29:29):
Maybe fix that.
Yeah.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (29:31):
Yeah, we get, uh, we get a little bit
more of a conversation seeinghow Chucky is like fucking with
these kids.
'cause Alice is just like,Chucky says, there is no God and
all this morbid, bleak shitabout death.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_14214 (29:45):
Yeah.
He says something like, we alldie bleeding, like stuck pigs,
or something like that.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (29:49):
And it's all stormy and stuff.
And so Alice goes onto thecovers and I, I do love this
moment'cause it's the first timewe hear Chucky speak, but she's
just like, Chucky, I'm scared.
And he is like, you fuckingbetter be.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (30:03):
can we talk about this?
Is it time to talk aboutChucky's face?

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (30:06):
You know what?
Yeah, let's do it.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_1421 (30:08):
Chucky has been not redesigned
entirely, but his face looksdifferent than we've seen it in
all the previous movies, and, Idon't like it.

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142142 (30:18):
I, I, don't hate it.
I,'cause it's not too far of adeparture the original one.
I think it's, it's modernizedand it, it feels smaller.
Right.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (30:31):
I don't know.
His, his eyes seem much furtheraway than they used to be.
Almost too far.
Which is funny because later hekills someone and says that
their eyes are too closetogether.
But, uh, yeah, his, his, I don'tknow, there's just too much
space on the bridge of his nosethat's just very, I'm being very
nitpicky.
'cause like you said, it's not avery far departure from what
he's always looked like, but, itjust, it looks so different that

(30:53):
I had to Readjust myexpectations of what Chucky
looks like for the whole film,you know?

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_142 (30:59):
Yeah, I, you know, I agree.
And it's definitely, it's apolarizing thing.
yeah.
Actually, I don't know how Ifeel about it anymore.

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (31:09):
Oh, no.
What?

crybaby-_1_06-24-2025_14214 (31:10):
I'm like, yeah, I know.
I'm falling into a crisis onthis.
I,

donnie_1_06-24-2025_142142 (31:13):
I think, I think people either,
you know, were fine with it andhardly noticed it or really were
upset about it.
And I'm not, I don't fall toeither of those,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025 (31:23):
Honestly, same.
I like it when things getchanged up.
I love new tones, I love newexploration, all that stuff.
It's fantastic.
So I don't, I'll, I'll behonest, actually, I don't have a
preference either way when itcomes to Chucky.
I.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (31:36):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (31:36):
The only preference I would have is
that I think of all of theChucky designs.
I think Frank and Chucky is thebest

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (31:41):
Yes.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (31:42):
from bride and Seed, like that's the
best version of Chucky.
But don't have an attachmentreally to how he looks.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1 (31:49):
Something about, something about his face
was unsettling to me.
It was very uncanny valley,which like, he's a doll.
It's, that's the point.
So maybe, maybe it's a goodthing.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (32:01):
I was gonna say, I feel like that
is the point with

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (32:03):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (32:03):
I 100% feel like That's the point.
And if it makes you feelunsettled, then job well

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (32:09):
That's right.
Good job done.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_ (32:11):
speaking of Chucky and speaking of the
lesbian affair, we're gonna tiethis all together here.
So, we have Jill, the hot youngnanny is sleeping in the same
room as Chucky and Alice andBarb.
The bitchy wife is sitting nextto her sleeping husband in bed,
and she's trying to cyber withJill.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (32:33):
Yes, she's got her laptop open and is
quietly watching Jill take herclothes off.
We're sit

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (32:38):
G

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (32:40):
the goal, I mean, as you do.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (32:42):
she takes her ring off and again,
she's playing with that fuck asscross necklace.
The hypocrite bitch.
Sorry,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (32:48):
Tell us how you really feel.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1 (32:50):
listen, I love her, but damn.
If there's one thing that getsunder my skin, it's hypocrisy
That's kind of my thingespecially, and I feel like I'm
gonna say it, the institution ofreligion is one of the most
hypocritical things on thisplanet.
And Barb is just an extension ofthat,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15 (33:10):
exactly.
You hit the nail on that.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (33:12):
Yes.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (33:13):
Or on the hands

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (33:15):
or on the

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (33:16):
or the foot.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (33:16):
or.
Or the face to fall out the

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (33:19):
There we go,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (33:20):
Marty Marino.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (33:21):
Marty.
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (33:23):
I will say like I don't know who
any of these people are.
I do, I'm a Gemini, I'm messy.
I love all of the family drama,I also, I still very much Miss
Mama Karen and Marty Marino andKyle, our OGs,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (33:39):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (33:39):
this family doesn't hold a candle to
any of them.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (33:42):
Oh, very true.
Very true.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (33:44):
but yeah, so Barb and the hot nanny
are trying to cyber sex all thewhile.
Nika is on her little laptopdownstairs doing her research,
and she finds out that the dollwas sent from an evidence
depository While this happens,Chucky fucking kills the hot
nanny.
'cause it's raining, right?
And the, the, the roof isleaking.

(34:05):
And honestly, not to victimblame here, but she had It
coming'cause the pot that wascatching all of the water, how
on earth it was, it was almostfull.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (34:16):
It was almost full.
You, you have to do somethingabout that.
I,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (34:19):
you cannot go to sleep with a bucket
that full in a leaky roof andnot expect it to get

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (34:23):
that's true.
She had it coming.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15 (34:25):
Chucky kicks that fucking bucket over
and Woo.
Child electrocution.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (34:31):
Yeah, we get a very fun electrocuting
dev.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (34:33):
Fun is definitely the right

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (34:35):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (34:35):
it, because electrocutions is one of
those things where I think insome movies it's a lazy plot
device, you know, to make thepower go out, or it's just an
easy way to kill somebody.
But this one, we see hersmoking, we see her body
twitching, her eye burning outof its socket, like it's very
well done.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (34:55):
Yeah, it's cool.
It's a cool death.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (34:56):
And then of course the power goes
out.
So

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (34:59):
Again, again, the power in this house
is unreliable.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (35:02):
Yes.
and there's like this littleconfrontation between Ian and
Barb, where Barb is just like,I.
see the way that you look at thenanny and Ian is just like,
ditto.
And I'm like, Ooh,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (35:18):
Gotcha.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15 (35:18):
bitch.
Gotcha.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (35:21):
And this is, this is when we find
out that Ian, you know, hassuspicions about his wife and
Jill.
And so what did he do?
He put a, a nanny cam into thedoll into Chucky,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (35:32):
Yes.
Which again, I just, I lovethat, but I'm also like, how?
Stupid.
Are you, you tell her thatthere's a nanny cam in the doll

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (35:40):
right?

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (35:41):
and then you just put in your
earplugs and go back to sleep.
Like you're not gonna, you'rejust like, yeah, it's fine.
I'm gonna let you have thatinformation and do with it what
you will.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (35:50):
It's true.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (35:50):
He's not afraid of her sabotaging it
or any, I mean, I guess if it onthe cloud, it doesn't matter.
But still, he has a lot of, uh,a lot of faith in her not
destroying anything, you

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (36:01):
true.
That's true.
I mean, he does give away his.
Secret, but you know, he givesit away so that we, the audience
can be in on it, so not, notlazy storytelling, it has to be
made very apparent for thepeople who are watching it.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (36:14):
And it also, it.
gives Barb a reason to gointeract with Chucky.
'cause now she's, she's lookingfor him she finds him in the
attic Oh, oh God, yeah.
The fucking addict.
Those sunflower paintings.
I, I have a very strong reactionto those fucking sunflowers.
it makes me think of the otherthing that I don't like about

(36:36):
this movie.
So we're gonna get there soon,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (36:38):
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I'm,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (36:40):
sure you probably don't like this
either.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (36:43):
I probably don't,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (36:44):
Yes.
But yeah, Babs goes in theattic.
There's fucking sunflowerpaintings everywhere.
She finds Chucky and Chucky,stabs the fuck out of her.
And this is where the, the eyestoo close together thing that
you

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (36:55):
right.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (36:55):
into play.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (36:57):
Yeah, it's a, you know, a Chucky
one-liner, and I'm like, butyour eyes are too far apart.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1 (37:01):
They're always two close together.
Stab.
Oh, also, um, we have a, a facereveal from Chucky, Frank and

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (37:08):
Oh, right.
Frank and Chucky,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (37:11):
like, I guess he,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15 (37:12):
there's.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (37:12):
is confusing.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (37:13):
There's like a little, he's got like a
little makeup blemish on hisface Barb notices it, so she
kind of picks at it.
And when she does, so she, youknow, removes the top layer and,
it's all the stitches that we'veseen on Chucky's face before.
So we get his, you know, hisactual face.
what were you gonna say aboutit?
There's something.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (37:33):
Well, first off, I'm gonna say like,
that's very much my face after afull day in

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (37:39):
Of course.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15 (37:40):
that's peeling off the layers for the
cracked.
I find it very confusing, uh,yes.
We're, we're watching a movieabout a killer doll.
Disbelief is already suspended,but I'm also just like having a
hard time believing that hesuccessfully and seamlessly
covered up all that shit forthat long.
Like,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (37:59):
It's,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (37:59):
seem real.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (38:00):
it, that part, that's what gets you

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15 (38:03):
That's what gets me.
I'm like, killer doll, fine.
But I draw the line atprosthetics like that lasting
over a day

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (38:10):
attack.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (38:11):
so

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (38:12):
It does look good.
He's, he's done a good job.
Whoever did his makeup, did agood job.
Um,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (38:16):
I know.
Do you think Tiffany did hismakeup?

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (38:18):
what I think.
Yeah.
I mean, come up.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (38:20):
think

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (38:20):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (38:21):
Of course.
Tiffany is just so talented.
oh, but before this happens, I,for, uh, we forgot to talk
about, there's one moreconfrontation between Barb and
and Nika Barb is trying to findChucky and Nika ISS downstairs
and the power's out.
So Nika can't go upstairs toactually talk to Barb, Nika
like, get the fuck away fromthat doll and.

(38:44):
Barb is just like, yeah, I know.
Why didn't you tell me?
And so Barb thinks that Nika istalking about the hidden camera
when Nika is actually justtrying to be like, no, that
doll's gonna fucking kill you.
What are you talking

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (38:55):
That's her.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (38:55):
it together By

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (38:56):
She's figured out.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (38:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
She does the obligatory hot girlresearch montage

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (39:02):
the internet search.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (39:03):
we have

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (39:04):
Yeah.
She pulls her

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (39:05):
the

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (39:05):
on the internet.
The internet search?
Yes.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (39:09):
Yes.
this is where I think Barb's,anger, resentment, and
repression really comes out.
'cause she fucking goes off on,on Nika and you can tell that
she feels some type of waybecause Nika probably got
treatment when they were kidsshe's, just like full on resents
her now at this point.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (39:30):
Yeah, she's she's pretty nasty.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (39:31):
but yeah.
So Anika, first off, badass Leedrags herself upstairs,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (39:37):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (39:38):
but she doesn't get there on time.
Unfortunately.
Babs, dies.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (39:43):
Babs,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (39:43):
Barb Babs Barbie,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1 (39:45):
whatever.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (39:46):
She dies and we get, this very, very
CG Chucky walking down thestairs.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (39:54):
Yes, this is a, um, how, how he do
it.
this is a, a moment where wedefinitely can see that perhaps
the budget isn't quite the same.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (40:03):
yeah, I miss the puppet on

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (40:04):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (40:05):
know, you gotta do what you gotta do.

donnie_2_06-24-2025 (40:06):
Absolutely.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (40:07):
And so I don't remember how, I don't
exactly remember.
I guess the detail doesn'tmatter.
Nika has A spare wheelchairupstairs.
She goes and she wakes up Ianand Ian finds all the bodies and
carries Nika downstairs into thegarage.
And then he goes to find Alice,I believe.
And then that's when Chucky.
into the garage and then thatheart thing happens.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15 (40:29):
happens.
Yes.
Chucky, tries to kill Nika byturning on the vehicle that's in
the garage and, you know, wantsto kill her with, I guess carbon
monoxide.
Ian comes running back to thegarage and Nika starts to have
some kind of episode, and she'sasking Ian to inject her with
something and he's refusing.
And I, is he refusing because hethinks that Nika had something

(40:49):
to do with these deaths or thedisappearance?

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (40:52):
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of sus she's
sitting there with an axe in abroken car window and found all
of these dead bodies and stuff,so it's like, I get it.
I wouldn't let her, I mean, shedoesn't die,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (41:04):
She doesn't die.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (41:05):
very, I.
a very intense situation and hejust like lets her,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (41:08):
Pass out.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (41:09):
Yeah,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (41:10):
she, she loses consciousness.
So we still don't know what theheart issue is, but It, we, it
does come back

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (41:16):
Yes, it comes back.
That's the only time it comesback.
She passes out and then shewakes up upstairs tapes to her
wheelchair with Ian looking upthe nanny cam footage.
'cause he's trying to find outwho killed all these bitches and
stuff.
he is also trying to find outwhere Alice is too,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (41:32):
Yeah.
We haven't seen the kid.
We don't know where the kid is.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (41:34):
I think Chucky like locked her in
a closet or something.
I

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (41:37):
Hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (41:37):
see that on the nanny cam footage.
He says something like, shut thefuck up or something, and she's
like, Chucky, don't curse likethat.
But yeah, we get the real lifenanny cam footage.
Ian ends up getting killed, ofcourse, with an axe to the
fucking jaw,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (41:50):
Oh yeah.
He cuts his jaw off.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (41:52):
And then this is when Nika gets the
axe to the knee.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (41:55):
Hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15 (41:55):
Chucky is rushing towards Her and she
tilts back so that way her legs

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (41:59):
leg will get hit.
Right, right.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (42:01):
And then we get this really
beautiful shot of Chucky.
Pushing Nika over the ban or,uh, not over through the
banister, down to the firstfloor again, when she flips and
she falls down, I think that's abeautiful shot.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (42:15):
It's it's very cool.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (42:17):
And then this is where we find out
why Chucky is here.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (42:21):
Right, right.
We finally get the information,as to why Charles Lee Ray was at
the party and what theconnection is with his family.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (42:28):
Yeah.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (42:30):
Oh.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (42:30):
Yeah.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (42:31):
So here we are.
Okay.
How did, tell me, tell me yourfeelings about this.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (42:36):
I fucking hate this so much so,
so, so much.
Yes.
So everybody, here's whathappens.
I guess Chucky was obsessed withNikas mom.
Sarah killed her husband and herwhile she was pregnant with
Nika.
And this whole thing isn't blackand white.
Mind you?
except for the fuckingsunflowers.

(42:58):
Those are yellow.
And I just hate it because itmakes Charles Lee Ray look, it
takes away his power.
You know what I'm saying?
The fact that he was so obsessedwith this woman and this.
Is what leads to him shot inChicago, getting shot in that
toy store.

(43:18):
'cause he has her kidnapped andthe police show up It
immediately cuts to footage ofhim running into the toy store
from the first

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (43:25):
Right.
We know now you don't like it.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (43:28):
what?
What happened to Eddie Caputo?
Huh?

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (43:31):
Yes,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15 (43:32):
person in this whole series.
What the

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (43:33):
that's right.
Where's any caputo?
You're right.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (43:36):
I just don't, I don't like it.
I, I, I, I don't, don't, I, Imore than don't like it.
I hate it.
I, I, no, I pretend that thisdoesn't exist.
When I think about the Chuckyfranchise, like this whole
thing, I don't know what you'retalking about.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (43:52):
You are right.
It does make him, it does takesome of the power of him away.
You know, it makes him,desperate and, I don't wanna say
you don't pity him, but it's,it's a little, it's just not
what he started out to be, he'sthis.
Powerful.
I don't wanna, I don't know ifyou'd call him a shaman or what,
but he's obviously got some kindof power.
And, instead he ends up obsessedwith this lady trying to make a

(44:13):
little family with her.
And she's, when she gets thecops involved, he stabs her.
And that's how Nika ends upbeing, paralyzed is from.
Him, him doing this to Sarahwhile she's pregnant and then
yeah, he runs off and jumps intothe toy store and we see, you
know, that those, there's thatshootout and it does get rid of

(44:34):
Eddie Caputo and just kind ofchange the lore a little bit.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (44:37):
Yeah, you know what?
I think it gives, it gives himsome incel vibes.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (44:42):
Yes.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (44:45):
what it is that I don't like about
it.
It makes Charles Lee Ray anincel and I don't think that way
about him.
I feel like he could be very

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (44:54):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (44:54):
I feel like he knows how to work
with people, so I just, I don'tlike

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (44:58):
Yeah, he's, he's a, he's a creepy
murderer, but he's charismaticand could get any woman that he
wanted to.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_ (45:03):
Exactly.
Which we do see later on in theTV series, so I don't know.
I just, I pretend that thisdoesn't

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (45:10):
Okay.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (45:10):
So we can move on.
We can totally move

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (45:13):
Oh yeah, from that part, that
didn't even happen.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (45:15):
I have no idea what you're talking
about.
I do feel like I had anotherpoint to make though.
Hold on.
Uh, did I have another point tomake?
Oh, yes.
I do like though that he doeskind of like throwback, uh, I,
I, I don't know if I would callthis an Easter egg, but he's
just like, you know, a lot offamilies have come and gone, the
Barclays, the Kins, The.

(45:36):
tillies, but your family hasalways been my favorite and I
like that.
It's like that little line justmakes me remember oh shit.
this whole thing has spanned.
Almost, well I guess at thispoint,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (45:48):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (45:50):
and or like 25 years at this point.
So I love that It's just likegenerations of families that he
is fucked with.
I think

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (45:57):
As a, I like your Chucky voice by
the way.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (45:59):
Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much.
I don't know where it came from.
what I also like, this is where,'cause earlier when Nikas
flirting with the delivery guy,there's this cheeky line where
she was like, I guess she wasgoing to school for psychology
or something, and she droppedout and she was like, yeah, you
know, I never finished my thesison completion anxiety.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1 (46:19):
Complete.
Yes.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15 (46:21):
really funny, but, uh, that pays off
here because she starts readingChucky to filth.
She's like, you know, you neverkilled Andy, did you?
Dah, dah, dah, dah.
It's called completion anxiety.
It's really common in males, andshe pisses Chucky off so much
and I fucking love it

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (46:37):
Yeah,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (46:37):
so much.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (46:38):
yeah.
She really gives him, gives hima hard time for, not never
killing Andy Barkley and takingso long to track her down.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (46:46):
oh.
'cause he gets pissed off andhe's just like, I'm gonna kill
you so slowly.
And she's like, yeah, 25 yearsis probably the slowest murder
in history.
See, this is why IL like, I, Ilove Nika for the, like, she's
so sassy and smart and ugh, sofucking fun.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (47:01):
No, she's good.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (47:02):
does a great job with this.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (47:03):
Oh yeah.
She's so pretty too.
Can I just say that?
She's so pretty.
Oh, she got great hair.
God, she's beautiful.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15 (47:10):
Please just please, please, please talk
about how pretty she is.
'cause she

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (47:13):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (47:14):
she is gorgeous.
again, wonderful addition to thechuckle Chucky cannon.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (47:19):
And now I'm really these people that
you're like, who the hell arethese people?
Why are they here?
Why are we watching these peoplein this house?
Now?
It's like, oh, I'm really gladthat I met Nika.
She's a great character.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_ (47:29):
Exactly.
I don't care about the otherpeople.
I'm actually happy that they

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (47:33):
Yeah.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (47:33):
most

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (47:33):
Who cares?
None of them.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (47:35):
I.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (47:35):
None of them are memorable

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (47:38):
Yeah, that's fair.
I think the only person is like,like Jill was trying to convince
Barb to lighten up on Nika a bitfor a minute.
She was like, you don't have tosell the house.
We'll be fine.
But beyond that, everyone elsewas just kind of shitty,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (47:52):
and I mean, if you think about the
fact that Jill was like also.
Cheating with Barb, you know,like Exactly, exactly.
She was the mistress.
You know, nobody in that familywas ideal and we still, and the
little girl is still missing, sowho cares?

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (48:06):
thank God.
Sorry.
When power comes back on, shegets into the elevator and like
is whole.
Holding the thing closed whileChucky's trying to kill her.
And then the officer shows upand Chucky just goes and parks
himself in the corner and shitdoes not look good for Nika

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (48:20):
is holding a knife.
Yeah, she's, and she's coveredin blood and she's holding a
knife.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (48:24):
and everyone's dead.
And this is where we get into aLord of the Rings, return of the
king type, never ending, ending

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (48:34):
Ah, I see.
Mm-hmm.
Right, right.
It could have been, could havebeen over then.
Right.
Lord of the Rings has like 16ending.
It's,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (48:42):
Yes.
This one has like

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (48:43):
mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1 (48:44):
because we have, it could have ended
there.
And then we have the courtroomscene where Nika gets sentenced
to, an asylum for the criminallyinsane for all of this murder.
and I love how they have all ofthe evidence lined up.
They have rat poison, And thenChucky is there and she's like
screaming at him.
She's like, I'm alive, youfucker.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (49:01):
Not, not doing herself any favors
when it comes to looking sane.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (49:04):
No, not at all.
and so you think, okay, this iswhere the movie could end, but I
ask No.
We have Officer Stanton who isliterally recycling word for
word.
The conversation that theofficer in bride of Chucky had
with, Hey, I'm on way, don'tforget my money, because he's
delivering Chucky to Tiffany, hegets killed

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (49:29):
Thank God.
Hi, Tiffany.
We've missed you.
Welcome back.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (49:33):
I know, I know.
She looks, she's again, justsuch a babe.
I love her hair in

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (49:37):
Hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (49:38):
like, I don't know how to explain it.
It's just like a cute littlelike boop.
Mm-hmm.
And then, okay, so that happensand you're like, okay, this is
certainly where the movie ends.
'cause it ends on a shot thatfeels like an ending where it's
from the perspective inside ofthe bag.
And we see Tiffany's face andshe's like, okay, who's next?
And she closes it up, pitchblack.

(49:58):
And you're like, okay, that'sthe end of the movie.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (50:01):
There's more.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (50:02):
first we see Tiffany to deliver the
doll somewhere to deliverChucky, and then we end up at
Alice's house and Chucky isthere.
He killed her grandmother and hewants to play Hide the soul.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (50:17):
Hide the soul.
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (50:19):
And this one presumably He succeeds
as far as we know at this

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (50:23):
Right,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (50:24):
doing the thing and the camera pans
and then we see the deadgrandmother jump, scare the
camera.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (50:28):
right.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (50:29):
and then we go into credits.
But wait, there's more.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (50:31):
the movie's not over.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (50:33):
The movie's not over.
We have a post credit sequence.
And this I'm fine with,'causethis is what I needed.
You saw the post credit sequence

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (50:42):
Oh yeah, this was pretty cool.
This is like,

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (50:44):
Yeah,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (50:45):
okay, I'm, I'm here for this.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (50:47):
yeah.
we, we, we finally see afamiliar face.
We see live and grown.
Andy Barkley.
Role reprised by Alex Vincent,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (50:58):
How cool.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (50:59):
og Andy Barkley.
This is such a wonderful littletreat Chucky goes to Andy to
finish the job, but Andy knowshe's coming and he has a shotgun
and we just chucky's just likeAndy.
And that's it.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (51:13):
And that's it.
Yep.
How cool for Alex Vincent tohave gotten that phone call from
his agent that was like, Hey,you wanna come back and play
Andy Barkley again?
You know, 20 something years.
After having done it, oh, thatjust must have been so cool.
I would've been like, Uhhuh,yes, of course.
I wanna come back.
Thank you.
I.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (51:30):
Uh, Yeah.
I fucking love that they madethat call.
It's so good and it sets us up,for what's to come in the next
movie.
and I think that kind of put himin the mindset of treating
Chucky more like a TV serieswhere you have all of these
plots kind of weaving in and outof each other.
And I feel like this, this movieis kind of when that seed starts

(51:52):
to get planted.
'cause there's cliffhangers andthese little things that are
gonna be carried over to thenext movie and.
Ultimately we do get a TV seriesout of it, and I, I kind of dig
it.
I like this never ending Chucky.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (52:04):
Never ending Chucky.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is cool.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (52:07):
Yeah.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (52:07):
Yeah, I see what you mean.
That it does kind of Suddenlyseem like it's more structured
like a TV show.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (52:12):
Yes.
So That's Curse of Chuckyeverybody.
That's

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (52:15):
so tricky.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_ (52:16):
favorite Chucky movie.
Um.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (52:18):
Yeah, I I, I bet you it is because he
gets to work with his kid.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (52:21):
It has to

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (52:22):
I.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (52:23):
how do you feel about this movie,
Donnie?
I I.
want to hear your, your final,your overall thoughts.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (52:27):
You know, when I, when I first
watched it, I was disappointedbecause I was so invested in
the, campy.
You know, the, the last twomovies were just so right up my
alley, you know, the, the horrorcomedy I, when it's done well,
like it's done in this series.
So I was just so excited to seethe continuation of that and
then to, to have taken such afar step away from it.

(52:51):
When I first saw it, I was like,oh, it's okay.
I think it's my least favoritein the series.
And then I just re-watched it afew days ago.
And when you're watching themovie, just.
In and of itself, it's actuallya really good film.
It's a really good movie.
The only thing that I wasdisappointed in was because I
had expectations that it wasgoing to be different.

(53:12):
So do I love the movie?
I think it, it sits well byitself, and in fact, you could
watch it without really havingseen any of the other ones and
still stick with it pretty well.
is it my favorite?
No, it's not.
It's probably my second to last.
Favorite.
No, that's not true.
It's probably number five.
No, that's not true.
I have mixed feelings about it,I guess is what I'm trying to

(53:34):
say.

crybaby-_3_06-24-202 (53:34):
Similarly, I have like mixed feelings about
it, but it's the oppositedirection

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (53:38):
Okay.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (53:39):
of what you experienced.
'cause when I first watched it,I was like, oh, this is fun.
This is a great tonal shift.
I like the style.
I like that it's uh, moreintimate kind of gig.
But then the more I sat with itand viewed it in this universe
That has been built for Chucky,just comparatively, it doesn't
stand up to a lot of the othermovies.

(54:00):
And I think.
It's really hard for me to getpast that one big thing that I
do not like about this movie.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (54:09):
you're not gonna mention again.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (54:10):
That I'm not gonna mention again, I
just have to mention it now.
I, I remove that part and myfeelings towards this movie
increase a lot more.
But I would be, it would not be100% honest of me to talk about
this movie without acknowledgingthe movie as a whole.
So, I.

(54:31):
I think it's a great step in thefranchise and I think it sets us
up to go to some really greatplaces, but it's, it's not my
favorite of the franchiseeither.
I appreciate it as its own film,but in the franchise, not my

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (54:45):
That's, that's exactly it.
Like asset's own film is cool,but when it exists in the world
of Chucky, it's, it's, that'swhat I, it just seems like a
wedging of square peg into around hole for me.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1 (54:58):
Mm-hmm.
but I do love that It stillmaintains its queer

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (55:02):
It certainly does.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (55:04):
that that's fantastic.
I love that it's not subtext.
We have just straight up queercharacters in this film.
Lesbian characters nonetheless,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (55:14):
Yes.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (55:15):
I don't think at this point have
we really had any.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (55:18):
Mm-hmm.
No.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (55:20):
Not nothing explicitly, no.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (55:23):
Yeah.
It's just so nice to seelesbians too, you know, because
it's, it, they just appear soinfrequently in media, you know?
Especially in 2013.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (55:32):
Yeah, And especially in a way that's
not, extremely painted for themale gaze where it's like
they're lesbians and they're hotand they're making out for these
guys.
It's like, no, these arelesbians that are lesbians for
the sake of being

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (55:46):
Yeah, exactly.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (55:46):
for each other.
You know what I'm

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (55:47):
Yes.
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (55:48):
I agree with you there, just
having a different, differentpart of the queer community
represented in this movie.
I also just like that, There's,of course, you know, with the
infidelity and like the lesbianlove affair is like one thing,
but I do feel like Chucky as, ashis own entity kind of is a

(56:09):
representation of the perversionof family values from the
eighties just seeing thatmanifest itself even further in
these films, I kind of like it.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (56:19):
Yeah, he is a perversion of family
values.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1 (56:21):
Mm-hmm.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (56:22):
we've gotten to watch, things change
around Chucky, but Chucky staysthe same, and that's really
interesting.

crybaby-_3_06-24-202 (56:28):
beautiful.
Do you have, I, I, I, sometimesI ask if you have a favorite set
piece, but we only have

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (56:34):
The one said piece

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (56:35):
in this movie.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (56:36):
and it's lovely.
It's such a cool house.
Yeah.
And I think if I had to pick afavorite set piece of the house,
it's that amazing elevator, thebig WR iron elevator.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (56:45):
it's so cty.
Yes, I'm with you there.
I love the elevator.
What, how about, uh, favoritekill?
Do you have a favorite kill fromthis movie?

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (56:53):
I really appreciate the
electrocution.
it's something about that eye,you know, her eye bulging out
and it's all burned around herface and all thete, the smoke
coming off of her, I really likethat and I, I do like the, the
priest's death.
But I think my favorite overall,the way that it's executed and
shown is the electrocution.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (57:09):
Huh.
Executed

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1 (57:11):
Execution electrocution.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (57:14):
I, to your point, I do like how it
shot because it, it feels moregrounded.
'cause with electrocutions inhorror movies, oftentimes you
just get somebody like,

donnie_2_06-24-2025_1507 (57:24):
Right, right.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (57:26):
but that's, that's not really what
happens.
And I think that that was scary.
It was really unnerving to see.
So.
I get it.
I, for me it is the

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (57:37):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (57:38):
It was a tossup, uh, same boat as
you, it was a tossup betweenelectrocution and the priest.
I just, I, I like the priest alot.
I think it's a really, the wholesequence at dinner I think is
really fun.
I like the unexpected aftermathof him getting poisoned.
I just think it's really cool.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (57:56):
His, his death is cool.
It's fun to watch.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (57:58):
All right.
Now I do have, I'm gonna bringup some results from an audience
thing, and we talked about thisalready.
Brought it up Chucky's redesignand how you felt about it.
I threw a poll up on Instagramand I asked, my followers how
they felt about Chucky'sredesign.
I asked if they thought it wasan all stars glow up or if they
thought it was, botched, and 75%said botched.

(58:23):
So, and I'm pretty sure youresponded that as

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (58:26):
I was, I was ha uh, part of that
75%.
Yes.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (58:29):
Yeah.
people really don't like theChucky redesign.
And you know what?
Now that I'm looking at thephotos of them side by side, I
get it.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (58:38):
Yeah.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (58:38):
It

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (58:39):
It just that to me, it seemed
unnecessary.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (58:41):
To each their own, there's people
out there that dig the redesignand good for you.
I think maybe it is the uncannyvalley of it all.
It's, you know, modernizing hislook because American Girl
Dolls, it's kind of more it inline with those dolls now versus
the Cabbage Patch kids.
So it makes sense.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (58:59):
see.
I don't know much about AmericanGirl Dolls.
Do they do, does he look similarto them?
Unless, I mean, you're right.
He looks much less like acabbage patch kid.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (59:06):
Yeah, it's, it's a little bit more
like that.
The American Girl Dolls.
Very nondescript.
But still some humanesque.
It's like a blank human canvasalmost in miniature form.
It's kind

donnie_2_06-24-2025_15075 (59:18):
Okay.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150752 (59:19):
do you have any final things to say
about cursive Chucky?

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (59:22):
I do, I, I, you know, for me, the
thing that, just continues torun in my head is just that
tonal shift.
And it is cool to see the growththat Don Mancini has had as a
director.
he's more, I, I guess, moregrounded now.
And it's very, very noticeablein this movie.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (59:39):
Yeah, he's finessed

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150 (59:40):
Mm-hmm.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1 (59:41):
skills.
I

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (59:42):
Yes.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (59:42):
it's a lot smoother, a lot more
playful and creative.
I agree with you a hundred

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (59:48):
A word that keeps coming up when
I'm thinking about this movie isnuance.
There's so much nuance in themovie.
There's nuance in Fiona Dora'sperformance, it's not in your
face.
It's very, there's more subtlesubtext, nuance, things like
that.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_1507 (01:00:00):
Yes, absolutely.
we've said it a million times.
I'm just gonna say it again onefinal time.
Fiona Dora, wonderful additionto Chucky.
I'm so glad you're here, Fiona.
So, so glad.
And I'm so excited to see whatshe does in culture.

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (01:00:15):
In cult.
Yeah.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_150 (01:00:17):
Yeah, it's gonna be very interesting
to see what happens with NikaPearson, the next movie,
everybody.
Donnie, where can our listenersfind

donnie_2_06-24-2025_150751 (01:00:23):
Oh, you can find me on Instagram the
Donnie Cido, It's the word, the,the word Donnie, D-O-N-N-I-E.
And then my last name, which isC-I-A-N-C-I-O-T-T-O.

crybaby-_3_06-24-2025_15075 (01:00:38):
And of course you can find me
crybaby, on the Instagram atcryon in public, so that's cryon
without the G in of course,follow horror icon.
That's W-H-O-R-R-O-R.
Icon Pod on the Instagram andwe'll see you again soon,
cuties.
We'll see you next week for Cultof Chucky.

(01:01:00):
And until then, don't be scaredunless you're into that sort of
thing.
Bye.