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August 15, 2025 52 mins

Chapter 20 of Miranda July’s All Fours is one of Tommy and Amy’s favorites. Our character invites her friends to Excelsior’s Room 321 in order to crowdsource marital advice and a whole lot more. But once there, the room expands into another dimension and a new portal seems to open, a place where one can begin to understand oneself and one’s own desires via the sharing of others. Through it all is the titillating question: “If you could have anything or do anything that would not jeopardize your relationship in any way, what would it be?”

Hidden parts, secret yearnings, long distance, and much more pepper the conversation that connects the marital argument of Chapter 19 with the possibilities spring forth in Chapter 20. Maybe it just all comes down to touching other people?


Mentioned in this episode:

All Fours by Miranda July

Viscount Dance Studio

The Old Princeton Landing


Original Music:

Song: Jesus Got Into an Ordeal

Artist: Rick Real and The Warmth

Album: USA #1


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