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November 15, 2025 60 mins
If you’ve ever wondered why your heart seems to know things before your mind does, this episode is going to light you up. Pa’Ris’Ha and her international panel dive deep into “The HeartMath Solution” by Doc Childre and Howard Martin, exploring the groundbreaking science behind heart intelligence — the energy center that shapes your stress levels, resilience, intuition, emotional balance, and even your ability to manifest. You’ll discover:
  • 🔸 What heart coherence really is and why it transforms your physical and mental health
  • 🔸 Simple HeartMath techniques that help you calm your nervous system within seconds
  • 🔸 How the heart communicates with the brain (yes… science proves it!)
  • 🔸 Why living a heart-centered life boosts clarity, creativity, and spiritual alignment
  • 🔸 How these tools can shift your vibration and attract better outcomes
Join Pa’Ris’Ha and her brilliant co-host panel —
Geraldene Dalby-Ball (Sydney AUS),
Tryna Cooper (Denver CO),
Gabrielle Thompson (Mt. Beauty AUS),
Evelyn Yllada (Miami FL),
and Marianne Love (Melbourne AUS) —
as they break down Chapters 4–7 and share personal insights on how to actually live from the heart every day. It’s science. It’s spirituality. It’s practical. And it’s exactly what your soul’s been asking for.



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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the Law of Attraction Radio Network. Welcome
to Quantum Leap book Club. During the next hour, beloved
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(00:22):
Join us every week for a thought provoking hour and
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Here's Parisha.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is Quantumly Book Club. Our regular host Parisher will
not be joining us tonight as she's traveling and teaching,
so her co host will cover tonight's material. Our co
hosts Sir myself Marian Love from Melbourne, Australia. We have
all Away from Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. We have

(00:57):
Trina Cooper from Denver Coleraid, Gabrielle Thompson from Mount Beauty
in Victoria, Australia, and Evelyn Yolardi from Miami in the USA.
And so our book this week is Heart Maath solution
by Doc Childre and Howard Martin, and we're in chapters
four to seven. We'll be discussing pages sixty four to

(01:20):
one hundred and thirty one. Tonight we're broadcasting through Law
of Attraction Network Radio. So let's begin and I'm going
to take it away tonight with chapter four on freeze frame.
So he's been leading they've been leading us up to
this particular strategy, and such a simple and powerful strategy.

(01:41):
And he takes us first in this chapter to a
lady called Patricia who was in a very very stressful job,
the kind of perfectionists. She wanted to be the perfect wife,
the perfect mother, the perfect employee. And she'd worked very,
very hard, and she'd only sleep about four hours a day,
and not surprisingly, her body started to show the signs

(02:04):
of such a high level stress lifestyle, and so she
got this hard arrhythmia. She had four surgeries, and she
knew that it was a kind of life on death situation.
She just couldn't continue in the same way she'd been functioning,
and so she went to one of the Hartmath's workshops
and learned this freeze frame technique and applied it straight away.

(02:25):
So her next day at work, she went to the
bathroom eight times in order to apply the freeze frame
and shift the stress level she was experiencing to something else.
And so really it didn't take her very long for
her to start to turn around her health condition. She
noticed immediately the changes in her stress, and so within

(02:48):
like three weeks she'd come off vallim. Within like you know,
nine months, she showed a totally normal ECG, which is amazing.
So this works. So it's a matter of working in.
It's already proven, and so it's a pretty simple technique actually,
And if you think about what we go through in

(03:09):
every moment, just probably even just listening to me, your
mind's wandered off in a million different directions. You've thought
about that stressful thing at work or at school, or
at home, and so we've gone through moments and moments
of stress. And so the freeze frame is actually pausing
one of those moments. It's a bit like in a movie.
It's actually talking about a single frame of a movie.

(03:30):
It's using that analogy. And if you pause one of
your moments of stress and then apply this strategy and
zoom in and then listen to the heart's response you'll
be able to turn the stress around. So the technique
itself is simply involving freezing that moment, finding the stress,

(03:51):
so recognizing that you're feeling the stress, and then focusing
on the heart for about ten seconds, so pretend the
heart's breathing, breathing in and out of the heart. The
next step, which is really really important, is bringing up
a positive feeling. So let's say you visualize a fun
time you had on that holiday in Bali and you're

(04:15):
by the beach and you're having fun with the family
and your siblings or the kids, and everyone's laughing and playing.
Now you visualize that and you'll also feel it. So
the important thing is bring up the feelings again. And
then once you've done that, you can ask your heart
for an answer to the question. That might be that

(04:35):
you started with the stress feeling you started with. You
could ask any question that would help you answer that.
And so an example is ask your heart what would
be more efficient response to the situation, what would minimize
future stress, and then your next job is to listen
for that answer. And so it works. It's a really

(04:57):
powerful strategy. People have used it for things like we
were always use it for everything. But people have used it,
you know, for things like road rage, like they notice
to get really really angry when they're driving it people
cutting them off, and you know, other drivers doing can
easily apply this technique for that. You can actually apply
it for basically anything you'd like to apply it to.

(05:21):
On page well, figure four point one in the book,
I think is worth looking at. It's showing you the
actual changes biologically that happen when you apply this particular strategy.
So you'll notice that the heart rhythms become more regulated,
the blood pressure becomes more regulated, and respiration becomes more regulated.

(05:43):
So from this state, everything else in your nervous system
can settle down and become more harmonious and coherent, so
everything works better. Health is better, you know, decision making
is better, creativity is better. It helps us prove our relationships.
So there's a lot in this and it seems like

(06:05):
such a simple technique and yet it is so powerful.
And I'll just finish on saying that they're saying here
that if we applied this really regularly, it isn't that
we have to apply this for the rest of our lives.
It's saying, if we do this really regularly. Now this
will become an automated process so that we'll stay in

(06:25):
the heart space for longer and longer. And it's that
hard intelligence that we want to live by, the true
intelligence of the heart. So, without further ado, I'd like
to go on and hear what Evelyn has to say
about chapter five.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Hi, Well, this is Evelyn speaking from Miami, Florida. Well,
chapter five, they begin by king us then into the
life of Steve and how he wakes up and how
it goes to work and how it goes back to home,
and it's all the same draining ups and downs of emotions.

(07:04):
So this whole chapter is actually about energy efficiency, and
using the example of Steve's life, we see how all
these ups and downs of these emotions become like what
they're saying is assets or deficits in our energy reserves.
So one of the key things that we got from

(07:25):
this is that every thought and feeling, no matter how
big or small they have, impacts on our inner energy reserves.
So our thoughts, our feelings, our emotions, when we're happy,
when we're upset, all that is a constant up and
down in our energy reserves, which is really important and

(07:45):
one of the things that they're talking about, like a
daily exercise that we could do, is that each day
we ask ourselves, how are our actions or our thoughts
and feelings, how are they expending my energy? You could
ask yourself, which is really interesting, and I think that
if we come into the habit of doing that, it
would be so great because you're creating a consciousness of

(08:07):
how you're expending your energy and you start realizing, you know,
does this really need Do I really need to be
focused on this negative feeling towards this person or this event?
You know, what's the cost of that versus you know,
if I'm feeling good about things, how much more am
I going to take back into myself? So during the

(08:29):
course of the day, it's a matter of just checking
in with yourself and seeing if you have accumulated more
stress or more peace throughout your day. I think that's
an excellent exercise, and you know, it's making us more
coherent about our daily about our inner self. A great

(08:49):
thing that they show in this chapter is keeping an
acid and deficit balance sheet. So just the same way
that we would balance our checkbook or accounting, they're asking us
to do the same thing with our energy because it
is an act and a deficit. So this shows us

(09:11):
where we're adding or taking from from our energy account
and if we're overdrawing it or we're putting more into it.
And that makes such a difference because the more energy
we have, you know, in our reserves, which is the
full energy accumulation, then we have more power, accomplished goals,

(09:31):
We get to deflect stress a lot easier, we eliminate
like self defecating, self defeating behaviors, and overall good feelings
when we have accumulated all those you know, those good
feelings in that little account that we have. But then

(09:51):
if we go the opposite way, where we deplete our
energy accumulators, then life becomes harder. When you see a
lot of people that come with that feeling of numbness
in their life because it's just the same thing every
single day and nothing changes. You're a lot less happier,
you're feeling unfulfilled, and actually the more you live in

(10:15):
that depleted energy, that's how disease comes to the body.
So they're asking us this chapter is mostly about us
becoming more conscious and coherent and how we are using
our energy, how we're misusing it and how we're using
it positively. And you know, they're telling us that quantum

(10:41):
nutrients are those core hard feelings that keep ourselves regenerating.
What that means is just find those happy thoughts, find
those feel good thoughts, you know, concentrate on those. And
they're asking us, even when we're having hard or drain
communications with something, you want to go into your heart

(11:04):
space and you find something to appreciate about that person
that you're about to have this conversation with or that
you're having to have to deal with a hard situation with,
and you find that compassion and that kindness and it
completely changes the whole course of the conversation. It reminds
me a lot of what Grandmother Parish that teaches us

(11:25):
about finding the beauty, and that's basically I think my
bottom line with this chapter that it's teaching us to
find the beauty and everything and every moment so that
that helps us accumulate more of those those you know,
positive and that we get full of energy instead of

(11:45):
depleting it with the negatives and the this and making
our life so much more harder because when we step
back and we really look at it, we have to
balance what the cost is, what is the cost, what
is it costing us to day in those draining energy
feelings and emotions, and what do we gain when we're

(12:07):
actually in those feel good emotions and coming from our
heart center. So that was really what I got from this.
I think it's a very good chapter on definitely becoming
more coherent and more to concentrate more on what works
for us and what does it great?

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Thank you for that perfect and what did you get
out of chapter six, Trainer?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Chapter six is introducing us to power tools of the heart.
And what's really amazing about this is that we can
use our heart, use these techniques that we're developing now
to give us practical ways to unfold the heart intelligence

(12:59):
and to move us from positions of stress to positions
where we feel very heart fulfilled, we feel very loving,
we feel very appreciated. So really the power tools of
the heart are these different feelings appreciation, care, non judgment, forgiveness.

(13:20):
Those can lead us into a greater life and a
more successful life. It starts out with this story about
Papa John and who's a trash man. And Papa John
was one he always had a smile, He always made
everyone in the neighborhood feel great, and they always felt
like they were touched by some goodness or honor whenever

(13:44):
they had any contact with him. And his appreciation, his
whole secret was appreciation. That he walked through life with
this whole sense of appreciating everything he came in touch with.
Did focus on areas that you know that he may
not make a lot of money, or that maybe he

(14:07):
wasn't as affluent, or maybe he had troubles in his life.
What he did was he walked around and he appreciated
everyone and appreciated everything that was there. And this appreciation
was deep and sincere, and what happened was this radiated
out into the world. So this is one of the

(14:28):
core heart feelings and one of the keys here for
any of these power tools is that it has to
be done in sincerity. You can't lightheartedly say oh yeah,
I really appreciate that, or oh yeah, I'm going to
forgive that and then not really mean it. Because the
heart knows. The heart knows, and it makes no impact

(14:54):
on it if we're not sincere. So we need to
really touch into that. And one way we can do
that is simply by asking ourselves whether loving and appreciating
and forgiving would really do anything for yourself if you
can let go of what you're hanging on to around

(15:14):
situations or people, and it creates free in your life.
And so the more sincerity you can muster in applying
these tools, the more power they're going to have. So
in this particular chapter he highlights three power tools. The
first one again is appreciation. People who have great appreciation

(15:38):
tend to bounce back from difficult situations so much more quickly,
and that's because appreciation is highly magnetic and energizing. It
will help bring in the good feelings to you. So
when you think about blending thankfulness, admiration, approval, gratitude, these

(16:03):
aspects of appreciation, and you realize that appreciating means growing
in value, you actually increase these good feelings, You increase
and your life grows in value. So this also in
trains with all the cells in your body. It changes
your makeup, it changes the way you look at things,

(16:26):
and your life becomes much more smooth, much more energetic. Now,
sometimes you may not feel like it, and one way
to get over this is to really start thinking about
what do you appreciate in life. All it takes is
a strong dose of appreciation to turn your perception around

(16:46):
all the way around. So if something happens, you could
appreciate the lesson in it, You could appreciate the fact
that you care about a person. Just find some of
those little key appreciations. Now, there was a key thing
about losing the power of it by adapting, and the
way they describe that was when you have like a car,

(17:07):
a new car, and you're so excited about it, but
then after a while you've been driving it, and the
new car smell goes on and it becomes just familiar
and normal to you, you start losing the energy around it. Well,
we do that the same way with appreciation with things
in our life, and so if we can rekindle the appreciation,

(17:27):
like say, this card does so much for me, It
gets me where I need to go. I really really
love driving it. If you can raise that, you can
reactivate it. And it's the same thing in our life.
Maintaining that appreciative state means constant, consistent contact with that
heart power. And we can deepen our appreciation by looking

(17:50):
at all the amazing things in the world that we
can appreciate and make a list of them. So there's
a couple exercises in here that he talks about. One
of them is an appreciation exercise where you list a
challenging situation and then list three different things that you
could appreciate about it. So dropping into that heart breathing again,

(18:13):
using that freeze frame technique and getting yourself into a
state where you're very receptive and your head is entrained
with your heart, and then ask what are the things
I can appreciate? Also appreciation and action. You can think
of all the things in your life right now that
you just appreciate. You can make a list on page

(18:36):
I think it was one thirteen or something, there's an
appreciation list. Write down all the things that you can
appreciate so that you can go back to them easily,
you can relate to them now. The next power he
has is non judgment, and that's a little bit tougher
for people, but if you can learn how to move

(18:57):
into a non judgment state, because judgment it can be
good when we're trying to make a decision, but when
judgment comes from a place of old experiences or hard
feelings and things like that, it actually draws us down
and it creates negativity and what we want is non judgment.

(19:17):
We want to move into a state where we can
expand our perception and look at a situation or a
person from all different angles and don't judge them, but
begin to discriminate, begin to say, oh, I see that
this is what happened, But the person I can still love,

(19:41):
the person I can still pay attention to. This non
judgment is generous and allowing. It gives that little option
for the doubt in the situation. Instead of coming hardlined
into something and saying this is what it's about, you
come into a place of not being judgmental. He tells

(20:02):
a little story about teaching a class and having someone
in the back of the class that didn't even open
the workbook, didn't even look at the things. He created
the stories and judgments in his head that this must
be a really rebel student. And it turns out that
the person was blind, didn't see and didn't react, and

(20:23):
couldn't use the workbook, but thought that this was the
most powerful seminar he had attended. So we need to
avoid that. We also need to avoid self judgment. We
need to look at ourselves in a way that says, oh,
this is what happened, but maybe I could do it

(20:43):
a little better next time. We have to focus on
our growth and take things that happen with us because
a lot of them may not have been our fault
when we were children. We just took them on because
we observed. We want to look at that and say, Okay,
how do I grow from this experience? How can I

(21:04):
make my life bigger and better? What are the lessons
in it? So there is a list of judgmental tendencies
that you can take a look at in the book,
or self judgmental tendencies like you're criticizing yourself, or you
hear yourself saying I don't ever do anything right. You
need to stop worrying about this and if that comes up,

(21:24):
you need to take a look at it and say
why do I feel that way? And just practice practice
that non judgment. And finally, the final power tool is forgiveness.
And forgiveness is a little bit tougher for so many
people because even when they say in their heart I'm
going to forgive them, it may not be deep enough.

(21:45):
You may not have let everything out over time. So
you have the power to move beyond all of this
because not forgiving not letting go basically binds you sickly
locks you up. And the more you can get into forgiveness,
the deeper you can get into it and move beyond

(22:07):
what was going on. By loving your way through it,
that frees you. Because and the example he Game gave
was you might get very angry at someone that's driving
a car and maybe almost hit you, and that'll stay
with you for a long time. However, that person doesn't

(22:28):
even know that you're angry at them, and they don't
even know that you want to forgive them. So where
is this energy sitting that's dragging you down. It's only
sitting in you. So it's so important to not allow
the pain to fester inside but love yourself. Challenge yourself

(22:50):
to let it go. Challenge yourself to look at things
in a non judgmental manner and use that heart power
to generate it the best way of letting go, which
is love. So learn how to love into situations, learn
how to have appreciation and open up with kindness, and

(23:11):
forgive yourself. And there's one last little key about watching
out for compromised forgiveness, and that would be I forgive them,
but I forgive them, But if they and if you
find yourself saying, oh, yes, I'm forgiving, but then you
know that you haven't reached that place yet and you

(23:33):
need to work on it more So, there's so many
little ideas in this chapter about amping up your heart power,
about finding the the the appreciation, the non judgment and
the forgiveness that you know. I would just encourage all
the listeners to get this book. This chapter is invaluable.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Fabulous, very thora. Thank you for that. And I'm curious, Gabrielle,
what you got out of chapter seven.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yes, a wonderful chapter titled Understanding the Mystery of Emotions.
And the interesting thing is, emotions are really what brings
the color into our lives. You know, without the emotions,
you know, there wouldn't be the waves that we experience.
While emotions are actually neutral, our thoughts bring the positive

(24:28):
or negative consense to it, and our physiological our body reactions,
they bring a label to that. Energy emotion is really
energy emotion, and our hearts are when they are coherent,
we feel love and appreaciation and things like that. And
when the heart and the head are not in alignment,

(24:51):
we might feel anger or hurt. So it has been
found actually that emotional energy works faster than thought processes.
So actually our emotional reactions come before the thinking. So
if we want to manage our emotions then to become
a better person and remain in a more calm state
of being, how can we use our thoughts if the

(25:12):
emotions come up quicker, Well, we need to tap into
our heart. And important reminder in this chapter is that
our emotional experiences and memories are stored in our nearn network,
mainly in the omig DOLLA in the brain. And if

(25:34):
we have responses today that might seem really strong or intense,
it might be because of the accumulation of similar emotional
responses to similar triggers we had in the past, and
these influence our patterns of our thinking and behavior today.
So when we become aware of that and become aware

(25:57):
of how draining that can be, you know, sometimes we
might wonder where did that reaction come from?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
It so strong?

Speaker 5 (26:04):
We want to become aware of that and manage it.
So if we want to manage our emotions better and
our emotional state, we need to connect to the heart
and use any of those techniques, especially the freeze frame
technique that has been described earlier, and when we become
conscious of what's happening, we actually realize that we cannot

(26:26):
blame the past for what we're doing today. And we
also when we connect to the heart's intelligence by you know,
by stopping being calm, doing the breathing and the visualization,
we might have a harm moments. You know, we might
be able to totally release the emotional patterns that we don't
want any more, like anger or disappointment. And also we

(26:49):
have very different perceptions coming up, and this gives up
the choice to respond to a situation rather than react
from a pattern that we've known and that may have
even become comfortable. So new insights can come through touching
to the heart, and this will help us not suffer

(27:10):
the con consequences, you know, like the emotional drain of
negative emotions and the spirals some of us can get
into everyone is probably aware of. And we need to
realize then through the heart that we cannot control life,
but we can control our emotions, and we might be
able to just take the significance out of events, get

(27:34):
a differentspect active, and move away from justifying why we
feel the way we do or why we do what
we do and also sitting on principles, letting go of
that and take each incident as it comes. And then
we can look at what they call asset emotions like
love and care more and replace our old emotional patterns,

(27:56):
and that will give us a sense of freedom. We
will feel less drained on all levels, like physically, mentally,
and emotionally. And how wonderful will that be?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Very good?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Alloway, what did you get out of all these chapters?

Speaker 6 (28:20):
But I guess the thing is, what do you get
out of all of them? You get the simple message
that being more in touch with our heart and being
in the present moment provides health fulfillment and the ability
to permanently change patterns. So in particular, when we look
at chapter four, we were looking at, you know, a
person who had some pretty chronic physical situations, and by

(28:44):
putting the freeze frame in place, and as Marianne shared
with us, and definitely go to the book to see
this more in full, but it's recognizing that stressful feeling
freeze on it make a sincere effort to focus away
from whatever the disturbing emotion is or the racing mind
and bring your focus to the heart and at least

(29:06):
ten seconds. Now that's not a long time, is it.
Let's we can really do this. Recall a positive or
fun feeling in life anytime. Just recall it the very
best you can. And then it says, use common sense
and ask, you know, ask my heart what would be
a more effective response to a situation that would minimize

(29:27):
future stress And listen to what it says and apply
the answer. That's really the key of chapter four. It's
an absolute can do. We moved into chapter five with
Evelyn and the energy efficiency and how to become an accountant,
become an accountant of your own bank, account of your feeling.
Your resilience then is directly linked to that, as Evelyn shared,

(29:50):
the more that you've depositive good, positive feelings and happy
emotions and that fulfillment that you can get and that
the Freeese frame helps bring to us more, we're then
building up that energy, which was also termed quantum nutrients,
the nutrients that keep ourselves regenerating. So this actually has
physiological changes in our body as well. Moving on with

(30:14):
Trina in chapter six, Power Tools of the Heart, we
heard those three key ones appreciation, non judgment, forgiveness, and
that's forgiveness of self and others. But the importance that
this is sincere. You know it's sincere when you feel it.
So that's the moving If it's really sincere, you've moved
it into the chemistry of the body. And the example

(30:34):
in the book about Papa John and how people just
really looked forward to having him around. There's a good
feeling when someone is around you that appreciates you, and
he had a good feeling in that he filled his
life with appreciation irrespective of his external circumstances. So that's
a key one about Papa John and a main part

(30:56):
of that chapter that Trina helped us there within six
so when we move to a state of non judgment,
we can really lift ourselves. And that's one to look at,
like how often is it you look in the streets like, oh,
that car's really messy, or that person's got strange clothing
on or whatever whatever. Just check in on your internal

(31:17):
dialogue and see if you can switch it to see
the same world going on around you, but finding the
beautiful things about it. You could see an infinite number
of things around you. Choose to acknowledge the beauty that's
around you, and we have a term called the beauty way,
and you create the beauty way by looking for beauty
and acknowledging it. Moving to chapter seven, understanding the Mystery

(31:41):
of Emotions, and Gabrielle helped us really see there that
the energy and motion is that word emotion and the
alignment when the heart and the thoughts, the heart and
the mind are along the same wavelength, and we have
what's called coherence. A key point that Garbae gave us
was when you can be in one of those emotional

(32:03):
experiences and it feels really big. We've triggered a part
of the brain called the amygdala, the emotional part, and
that's often from memories. So our reactions can be bigger
than the actual moment because we're bringing up not only
that present time, but a whole lot of stuff that
may have occurred before that's similar, but moving as we
heard in the first chapter, using freeze frame, checking in

(32:27):
on our emotional balance, using those three points that traina
shared the appreciation, non judgment, forgiveness. Using all of those,
we can have our own aha moment when we catch
ourselves repeating these old programs, or we catch ourselves having
an emotion that's bigger than the situation. When we have that,

(32:49):
we can have an insight, we change our chemistry. This
really is a tool to enable us for change of
long term patterns and things that are in there. Because
when you have the AHA moment and you bring it
back and ask the heart, how can I behave differently?
How can I think differently? What's a more effective way?
What's a more efficient way to address this? Then you'll

(33:12):
feel more fulfilled, less drained, and you can apply these
tools even without a situation and be the very best
version of yourself. And it's a terrific book. And that's
a quick summary of those chapters. And I do note
too that chapter seven leads us into part three of
the book, So we're moving along now into really looking

(33:36):
at how this applies with our emotions as well.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Fabulous responses everyone. I think we did a very thorough
job on describing the chapters of this book. So now
what would be really good to hear from all of
you about you know, how have you applied this? Look
what difference is this making in your life? I mean,
it is a game changer. And just because I was,

(34:03):
you know, I really want to listen to my heart
like I would love to live a life where my
heart's intelligent guides my moment to moment, and he's saying, here,
if we practice this all the time, it won't be
a practice anymore. It would be just a beingness. And
to me like just spending time with grandmother Parishier and

(34:23):
listening to the teachings, you know, the programming of the
brain and the body. Just the negativity of that programming
that is innate to all of us, so we don't
need to personalize that too deeply. But then we have
the solution, which is through the heart. And the heart
never lets us down. It never lets us down. It's

(34:44):
just a matter of tuning in. How do we get intuitive,
how do we actually hear the message so it's louder
than all the other programmings, whether that's you know, things
you heard growing up, or things that were just programmed
in the body before you're even born, or think you've
chewed on in your life and made really loud. So
that's the loudest program How do we get past all

(35:05):
of that? And this is a solution to that. People
ask me that all the time in psychology, and this
is definitely a solution. This is how you magnify the
voice of the heart is by simply listening to it
and bringing up positive feelings, tuning into it and hearing it.
And you know, Grandmother's always shared that the soul our

(35:27):
you know, whether you want to kick our spirit, our
soul downloads through the heart. So, you know, for people
who believe in the spiritual side of things like this
is an awesome way to connect with the greater sense
of who we are. And even if you don't believe,
it doesn't matter, because it works anyway. Like you might
just consider the heart a place where the love hormones

(35:48):
are and the care hormones are, and if that's where
you want to live from, then tune into the heart.
You know, either way, it's a win win. But I'm
really curious about how you guys have applied this, What
difference is it in your lives.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
This is Alloway and Sydney, Australia, and I'd just like
to say it's quite a coincidence that right now where
I'm sitting is outside the Heart and Respiratory Institute here
in Sydney, because people are here because they have situations
with their heart and they're testing their breathing and they've
said that one of the things that helps people breathe
more now is giving them certain drugs that are really

(36:25):
just working on their brain to relax them. And as
you and the doctor here explained that, they said, well,
it doesn't actually do anything physically for you, but it
helps the patient relax, and then because they're not so anxious,
then they will breathe more. And I was listening to
all that, thinking, we just just need to read the
book and apply it. That's doing the same thing. And

(36:46):
as we heard from chapter four, it was doing it.
So from here, it's having that ability just to chat
with people in a waiting room, just chat, listen, acknowledge,
and put this sort of information into the spaces where
it's needed. I'm not here just for that purpose. I'm
here for another purpose. But I happen to be right
here where we're talking about the heart and seeing it

(37:08):
real life. How how people still still have the training
that the heart is a pump and it pumps blood
and when you get older or when you get a disease,
then your pump doesn't work, and that's all there is
to it. So it's yeah, it's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Heart. I'm sure you're there to help a family member.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
I am, I am.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's really interesting. Yeah, And imagine if the doctors had
this knowledge and that they could pass that on to
their their clients, that would be amazing. It'd be a
game changer for medicine.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
Yes, well, they obviously have an inkling because the doctors
ask a lot of questions about your stress, how is
the how you know the person I was with that,
how is your stress? How is this? So they know
that there's a that mind mind stress influence. So this
is this is a real solution to that.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, very good. Who else would like to share?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, this is Trina and Dever and I've been using
especially like the freeze frame or just breathing into the heart,
breathing and breathing out and then asking for well getting
in touch with that joyfulfilling and then asking for solutions

(38:30):
or things like that. And I first started doing it
with me and then I found heart. Math does have
little scanners and programs and things that you can get.
You can get subscriptions and things. But I had an
old scanner and I hooked it up and I sat
down with it. You hook it on your ear and

(38:51):
it shows how coherent your heart is and then I
started breathing and I literally could see this shift. I
could see that shift in a more scattered heart pattern
to this coherent wave. It was really amazing just to

(39:11):
be able to sit there and look at it and
basically direct my own heart to move into that place.
And it was really fascinating. I know they have much
more to do with that, but then I took it
a little further. I've added it to first thing in
the morning, when I wake up, I go into a

(39:33):
place of the breathing and appreciation, think of all the
gratitude that I am for the day, and start the
day that way, and then end the day that way.
At the end of the night, just really giving gratitude
and appreciation for everything that had happened during that day.
And I have noticed so much such a calmness, an

(39:54):
ease of clarity, or even an ease and manifestation just
saying you know, this is something I need to create,
and it's like within an hour something has happened that
as so as they said this has to do with magnetizing,
appreciation has to do with magnetizing, and when you get

(40:17):
into that heart space with that appreciation, the magnetizing is amazing.
And then finally the way I've been using it, I
do a little relax refresh meditation on Wednesdays at noontime
for whoever wants to come. It's just a little free
thing to recharge people. And I started using this with them,

(40:41):
teaching them how to use it. And the very first
day I did it with someone and you know, and
I said, well, you can choose your situation ask for
a solution. When I asked the people there, one of
them said, I got my answer, like right then. It
just first thing, it just popped right into my head
because now the hard part's going to be implementing it,

(41:03):
because now I know this is something I have to
do and I just have to be strong enough to
implement it. So that's another whole piece of this. But
these are a couple of the ways that I've been
using what's come through this book.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Hmmm, fabulous sounds very fruitful, very good. How about you, Gabrielle.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Yeah, I'm really enjoying this. And I've been using the
freeze frame technique with myself but also with clients in
the psychology context, and what I've found is it is
important for us to realize it's so common that we
have emotional memories stored from way back, maybe from our childhood,

(41:44):
And it gives a good example here that applies, you know,
quite often it's like a child gets yelled at at
home or was yelled at in childhood by their father,
and every time they hear a loud voice, they have
a very strong emotional reaction which may not be related
to the actually incident itself. It might be in itself
a minor incident, you know, and don't we want to

(42:08):
get control of that and manage that better and actually, overall,
as an ultimate goal, change our state of being so
we can be calm and relax in every situation and
know that our past doesn't define us now, it doesn't
have to define how we react. We can change that
and also to come to a place where, you know,

(42:31):
he calls it taking significance out of events the moment
we relax, and others have shared that the moment we
relax and go into the heart, we may have instant insights,
but the minimum that will happen is that we're relaxed
enough to see things in a different way, to have
a different perception. So we might have a sick situation

(42:52):
that we think is so important, and you know, I'm
so angry that I didn't do what I wanted them
to do and I'm disappointed, and by going in to
the heart might go doesn't really matter, you know, it
can be that profound or you might at least find
an emotion that you can deal with better. You know,
you might just feel a little bit disappointed and upset

(43:16):
and you can manage that rather than having that intense
anger that overshadoes everything you do and think that that
has a physical impact on you as well. So I
find it really important to go through that with the
idea in mind that we want a new state of
being to come to a place, and I'm moving towards

(43:37):
that very strongly. That is what I want, where I
just am calm and relax in every situation and can
just use clear thinking inside humor, fun, you know, to
just get through what life throws. That is because life does.
There is incidents, accidents, mistakes. People don't react the way

(43:57):
we want them to. The ultimate to say, okay, so
what I'm aware, but I'm not going to react. I'm
going to respond in the way I want to.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, for me, in what you said, it's that clear minded,
clear response. Yeah, that's not so laden with emotions and
my own personal beliefs and biases and all of that.
Like that's my goal too, is to be clear in
my responses to people, not personalized so deeply. What's not

(44:29):
personal as well? Like everyone's trying their best mostly, you know,
we're not mostly just trying to do our best out there,
and you know a lot of those reactions are just
pre programmed. It's just our job to get conscious and
use the We have this amazing instrument. This body is amazing. Really,

(44:50):
we just got to know how to use the vehicle.
And I think we've got this you know, superpower ferrari
and we don't realize, you know, and just this edge
oftion helps us go, oh, I didn't know I could
you know, press this in this button and it would
change everything. So yeah, it's exciting in that way. When

(45:11):
I've used it, I've found the messages that have come
through being very simple and very clear, like not a
lot of words, but maybe just like okay, let go
of control, for example, just let go of control or
just guide, you know, like real simple when you'll go
and like can't argue with it. It's like, oh, yeah,

(45:33):
that's simple. It really is. And maybe it depends on
the question you ask too when you're in the heart state,
because I think you will answer what you ask too.
So I feel that that's an important element of this
is asking the right question.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Absolutely. This is Gabrielle in Australia. I just want to
add I've seen with clients that have never used a
heart breath before the free swam activity. The imagine in
that nation added the minimum that happens is that they
come out of their mind and their rumination and their
various spirals of emotions, you know, anger, into disappointment and
to self blame like all that. The minimum that I've

(46:15):
seen happening is they suddenly go, oh, they have no
message or anything, but they come and their mind has
slowed down. And that is a new experience for many,
many people, and it's powerful and it's very powerful to
watch and witness.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
That's a game changer when people realize they can do that.
They didn't know they could do that. Yeah, and he
said in the book here and it's true. Simply regulated
breathing will help do a major shift already before you
even apply the strategy of feeling new feelings or feeling
feelings within the heart that are positive. Yeah, what did

(46:55):
you want to say, Evlan? I noticed you put your
hand up there.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Oh yeah, well something that just popped into my head
when you talked about the vehicle. It's almost like we're
learning how to drive all over and get it. I
think I find it so funny, and you know, it
is simple. I think it's just us that tend to
overcomplicate things. But the answers do come, and I agree

(47:20):
with you may one d percent. When you do get
into that heart center place and you ask those questions,
the answer is so simple sometimes and I'm like, daw,
why do you know that was so simple? Why did
I just see that? It's like breathe, Oh okay, that's right.
I need to breathe. You know, it's just and you
breathe and you just let it go and it just flows,

(47:41):
and you know, things just fall into place exactly how
it needs to fall into place every single time. And
I think that's one of the things that I'm getting
more and more in touch with myself using the techniques,
and that it's about getting more hear myself and all
my emotions, understanding that no, I don't need to let

(48:05):
that person trigger me the way I used to let
them trigger me. I have a choice because in the end,
we all it's all choice, it's all our choices what
we make inside of it. It's like I have the
choice to either say no and not even deal with
it and just say I'm not I'm not gonna, you know,
deal with this. It's it's not worth it. What again,

(48:27):
what is the payoff with this? You know? What am
I losing? And realizing that chapter five of how you Know?
If I go with it, I'm gonna deplete my energy
instead of gain my energy. Why would I even do that?
That is so non coherent? And the name of the
game here is to become coherent, to become more in

(48:50):
touch with ourselves and knowing that this is just emotions,
and what do we know about emotions? It's just chemistry.
So let's just change this chemist Street around and make
it into something that's actually gonna be an asset.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
And one thing that I saw in my notes that
I missed to say, I love some of these words
that they give us, like quantum nutrients. I thought that
was so yummy, and the quantum nutrients is just you know,
those heartfelt positive feelings that you know, and they come
and they fortify all our intenor energy and it actually
goes down to the cellular level. So imagine these are nutrients.

(49:30):
It's like we're feeding ourselves without you know, without the food.
And to think that just by energy we could feed
ourselves cellularly, it's amazing. And like you said, our bodies
are such an amazing thing. I'm every day the more
that I learn more and more of it, I'm just

(49:50):
an awe of it. I really am. And I think
it's just that it's coming to that conscious place in
ourselves where we really come to love this body, to
really honor it and to tell itself you know, I
got you. You know, we don't need to go through
all this emotional craziness and all this stuff. I mean,
look at the state of our world right now. Do

(50:11):
I want to add more to it?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
I don't. I want to add beauty to it. I
don't want to add more of this ugliness. So I
think that as we learn, we really work with this book,
which is basically all about that, it's just about coming
from the heart, coming from that place of beauty of love,
that we all have inside of us. We can make
such a difference in this world, you know. So I'm

(50:33):
really I'm really happy with this book. Everything that's good.
I'm glad you're getting so much out of it. That's fabulous.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
You remind me of all the practices that grandmother has
given us over the years. Like even just from the
moment you wake up and start to visualize the day
as you'd like it to unfold and feel it, you know,
greet the sun and appreciate the beauty, and you know, like,
what are we projecting into the day. Just so many

(51:00):
practices we've been given. Chanting in the shower, anointing yourself
in the shower and appreciating the body, to smiling in
the mirror when you know, and looking into your own eyes,
Like just so many ways that we can drop into
the heart and produce the chemistry of love and care,
which is ours to do.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
There are so many ingredients that she's given us. And actually,
if we just choose one, it could be something just
as simple as when we wake up and reopen our eyes,
we just say I'm grateful for this day. That right there,
that changes everything, and that sets up the rest of
our day. It's that simple. It's just like what you said.
When we go in and we ask for those answers,

(51:44):
they come back that simple. That's just it. It's that simple.
It's not about complicating it anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, I love it. And what did you want to
say all the way?

Speaker 6 (51:55):
Well, actually, let on from what Evie said in terms
of the morning and that morning statement that is that
redoes our neurons as well, that today I will see
a thousand beautiful things, and my hands will hold one
hundred sacred objects, and as I look around, I create
beauty in all I see. And when we do that,

(52:16):
it's a reminder too. And as you said, look in
the mirror and say that there as well. So that's
one of the things I wanted to say, because again,
it's an easy thing, just even if you're starting to
say it, and you say it enough until you can
start to feel it, and then there is a change,
there's a change in the whole day. Gosso wanted to
say a way that I applied it is recently I've

(52:39):
come back into work, there's changes in work. And one
of the things was the same one of the other staff,
as if they were checking up on me. Like where
were you didn't answer your phone? Or and I thought
I could either get annoyed or I can just take
a breath, do the freeze frame and say no, it's

(52:59):
it's actually all good, and then have that compassion, of
which leads to another book there we're been studying non
violent communication and where's that person's needs? So to actually
check in and say, you know, I sense that you
need to know more where I am and where and

(53:23):
please help me understand how you'd like to be communicated with,
because in my mind I already knew that need and
I had text them the outline for the day. So
I think that's important too. Is like that really real life,
catching it as soon as it comes, redoing it, and
you can check in with yourself anytime you're blaming somebody else,

(53:45):
then you know that's an opportunity you could have done
a freeze frame, because it's never out there in terms
of the solution, it's never when they change, it will change.
So there's some radical responsibility required in this as well.
But the reward and the reward is complete freedom and health,
wealth and happiness.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Absolutely. I like that radical responsibility. You should put that
on a T shirt. I love that just remind just
you know, reminder of what grandmother said responsibility is, which
is respond with ability, And these tools do give us
the ability to respond. And also that book you were
talking about, Nonviolent Communication, is so powerful in gaining tools

(54:29):
for communication and relationships and connection. There was actually one
practice in that book that I thought was connected to
what we're talking about today, which was that practice of
seeing everything as connected. So even say the piece of
paper in front of you, if you actually, you know,
spend time contemplating the piece of paper, you can see

(54:51):
how it's related to the sun and to the water,
and to the earth and to the trees, and it's
related to the human or the machinery or the things
that were involved in its instruction and into creating that
piece of paper, to getting that paper to you to
be in front of you. You can see the inner
connectedness of absolutely everything. And that's a lovely practice I

(55:14):
thought within that book actually to help assist us in appreciation,
you know, in that heart based connectedness that we could
live from. There's just so many practices, there's so many
ways we can live the beauty and live happy. Isn't
there It's just programming. It's really the training, and so
I don't want people to get disheartened because it feels hard. Yeah,

(55:37):
it can. It is. It is as heavy programming to overcome,
but it's doable with education. You know, just keep putting
new information in. His grandmother always tells us, just keep
putting new information in every day, learn something and apply it,
and then the shift happens.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
That's really key, and the putting it in on repetition.
And so there's things we do every day, like the
looking at yourself in the mirror when you're clean your teeth.
The other one, when you're talking about appreciation, is blessing
of food. You need not have to have any particular
religious basis, but at the end of your blessing and
appreciation of the food and what it does for your body,
to bless those who've harvested that which is sacrificed and

(56:17):
those who have cared, served and provided, you know, and
really think about it their words. But as Marianne just said,
if you really think about the depth of what sacrificed
and whose cared served and provided and all that made
it happen, to bring it to your plate and now
into your body for your body's purposes. And needs. That's massive, Yeah,

(56:40):
it is, it's huge, very good.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Before we finished Gabrielle once a year, Yeah, that's just briefly.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
You know, it made me realize, you know, because we
question ourselves and say why change? You know, well, some
things depleting our energies and we can use those to
enrich our lives. And you know, lifetime is pressuous, as
grandmother always points out, that the time is now, and
if we want to live an enriched life, a fulfilled life,

(57:10):
then you know, change is important. And through our interconnectedness
that you shared with everything, we enrich others lives as
we do ours. And you know, the sense of freedom
and living the life we really want to and feeling
the lightness of being is powerful, very good.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Any other sharing before.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
We finish this is Trina. I just had one thing
to say about forgiveness because in the book it talks
about really releasing yourself and getting to a place of
freedom when you do forgive. And I had a situation
in my life where someone had done something really bad
and I worked on finding that forgiveness and I really

(57:56):
had to go to a place of love. I really
had to work at person as spark of the divine
a little piece of the source, and that I didn't
have to agree with the actions. I didn't have to
say anything that happened was okay. But what I could

(58:17):
do is get myself to a place where I could
really love them as the soul that they were and
that there were lessons in it for me and things
like that. And I really moved into a place of compassion.
And when it came, and this is how strong it
was when you really do this in sincerity. When it

(58:39):
came to a time of going to court and needing
to testify, I literally had to like get myself really
pumped up to go in there because I was feeling
so much compassion for this person. And you know, whether
it was that, yeah, whatever happened in his life, whatever,

(59:00):
cause whatever, there was no judgment. It was just I
just had such compassion that to actually go in and
testify I had to really focus back in on what
the deeds were, to just tell the facts and not
yeah and not really get into anything else. So, yeah,

(59:20):
it was really amazing and it works.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah, fabulous. So it's time to conclude our studies. We
thank you for sharing your time and energy with us.
You matter and count so you always make a difference.
We look forward to you being with us next week
as we take that leap into greater consciousness. Have a
powerful week and allow your light to shine and always

(59:45):
all good things.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
To you, oh see oh thank you for listening to
Quantum Leap book Club. For more information where you can
contact us, go to Layradio network dot com, Forward slash,
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