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In this week’s episode, the panel explores chapters 7, 8, and 9, uncovering Moorjani’s profound near-death experience (NDE) and the spiritual revelations she brought back from beyond the veil. Discover how her insights challenge our understanding of life, consciousness, time, and the illusion of separation.
Pa’Ris’Ha and co-hosts Geraldene Dalby-Ball (Sydney, AUS), Tryna Cooper (Denver, CO), Joyce Mollenhauer (Kingman, AZ), Marianne Love (Melbourne, AUS), and Steven Jones (Kingman, AZ) discuss how letting go of fear, embracing unconditional love, and detaching from the physical body can open us to the infinite nature of the soul.
Tune in to explore how quantum consciousness, energy healing, and near-death experiences reveal that our true essence exists beyond time and space.
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome to Law Attraction Radio Networks Quantum Leap Book Club.
We are so happy to have you with us today.
We are actually working on a wonderful book and can't
wait to get back to sharing with you. So our
host is Parisha and she is traveling and teaching today.
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So our co hosts are going to be sharing with
you for the rest of the show. And so my
name is Trina Cooper and I am from Denver, Colorado
or nearabouts Denver, Colorado. We also have Geraldine dalby Ball
where we also call her Laway. She's an environmental biologist
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from Sydney, Australia. We have Joyce Mullenhauer, doctor of naturopathy
from Kingman, Arizona. Mary Anne Love, a clinical psychologist from Melbourne, Australia,
and Steve Jones, an entrepreneur and Kingman, Arizona. So we've
got a great lineup for you today. And we're presently
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studying the book Dying to Be Me My Journey from
Cancer to Near Death to True Healing by Anita Morgianni.
And it's interesting because the forward of this book is
written by doctor Wayne Dyer, who actually found her information,
(02:07):
found her story and really really asked her promoted her
to get her story out in the world. And this
story is really about her near death experience and what
came out of it for her. So currently we are
studying chapters seven through nine. So chapter seven is leaving
(02:29):
the world behind, Chapter eight is something infinite and altogether fantastic,
and chapter nine is realizing the miracle. So in this
particular segment, we really are diving into her near death
experience and what was going on around her and also
(02:52):
the reactions of everyone, including herself when she did come
back off this experience. So we're going to start in
chapter seven leaving the World Behind, and we're going to
start with our co host mary Anne Love from Sydney, Australia,
and if you'd like to share, that would be fabulous.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I'd love to share. I'm actually from Melbourneways from Sorry.
This is a beautiful storyline and she's such a wonderful writer.
I love reading this. It's such an easy read. Totally
encourage people to get this book. You'll love it. But
what was really interesting about chapter seven was she actually
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pretty much came as close to death as you could get.
She ended up in a coma and they took her
to the larger hospital. So this hospital wasn't where she
normally got a treatment, and they were really shocked to
see her that she was coming in in this state
because they had basically just taking a look at her.
They pretty much gave up on her and obviously sent
(04:01):
the family into huge distress because they feeling they felt
like they were going to lose her. But what happened
for her was she became almost free, like she became liberated,
like she felt light and healed, she felt whole, she
felt pain free, and from that stage she actually could
not understand why the family was so upset, Like for
(04:23):
a bit, it took her a little bit to understand
that they were experiencing something completely different than her reality.
She'd just moved out of the five senses and felt whole,
so but her body was pretty lifeless. Her lungs were
filled with fluid, she was choking like it would have
been pretty horrific site for the family to experience. And
(04:47):
they even said on page sixty one how they tried
to the hospital wanted to I guess, assess weather where
she was up to with the cancer, and they put
her in a machine that she could only handle thirty
seconds of at a time before they needed to pull
her out and put her on oxygen. But she was
coughering and splattering, and the family had to witness all
of that, so they were terrified. But she was good.
(05:12):
She was aware of every detail that was happening all
around her. She had no attachment to her body like
she just felt fantastic, and even in that state, like
she became aware of her On page sixty three, you'll
see her husband was talking to the doctor and she
(05:33):
could hear that whole conversation, and then she noticed if
she got really drawn into the anguish, like all the
emotions the family were feeling, she actually got further and
further pulled away from that space, so it's almost like
she could see it from further and further away, and
she really became like a full expanded consciousness, like she
(05:54):
became everyone and everything. She could even be aware of
her brother on the plane on a way to see her,
and he actually jumped on the plane because he felt
that something was wrong. He didn't actually received the call
as yet, he was already on his way. She could
see his anguish, yes, so it was hard for her
to witness that, but at the same time, she felt
(06:14):
so fabulous that she couldn't quite understand, you know, exactly
what they were all so upset about. She finally was
emancipated from all the pain, and all her emotional detachments
fell away, like she all the fears she'd been experiencing
for years. She just felt ecstasy and pure unconditional love
and non judgment. And on page sixty six you'll see
(06:37):
that she actually becomes aware of Father is there, and he,
like I guess, telepathically lets her know that he's always
been there for her and the family and you remember
her friend Sony that died the year before. She became
aware of Sony and basically merged with Sony and could
experience all her loved ones. So it's sort of like
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this base of unlimited perception, and she could feel that
she could be aware of the past and the future
all at the same time, she was aware that her
brother a Noop in another lifetime, she was a Noop's
older sister, you know, like all these It's amazing really
what she experienced from this place, and she was saying
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that it's actually the five senses that limit us to
a focus in time. So without the senses, we're free,
where we can take up all space and all time.
And from that awareness she realized even why she got
the cancer, not from a blaming perspective, just from an
understanding of how that all evolved, how her whole life
(07:43):
experience had unfolded for her to end up in this
space of having cancer, And in that she became to
the understanding that she, like all of us, really owed
it to herself to express her own uniqueness, because part
of the experience of cancer was her suppression of herself,
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and that we're all unique, and that all we have
to do is express that uniqueness and be authentic in it.
And she just realized how beautiful being she was in
the universe, and to not express that is our portrayal
of herself, a violation of the self, really, and that
takes us on to chapter eight. I love the analogy
(08:29):
she shared here because she talks about how it's like
our experience is like looking in a huge warehouse and
all we see is one little flashlight, and then you
can just see what's in the flashlight. But if someone
suddenly turns on the lights of the warehouse, you'd see
this amazing color, like rainbow strode music playing. Everyone would
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be happy, like it'd be full of everything you can
imagine in third dimension, and it's all there. It's like
it's all existing in the warehouse, and when the lights
go off, you know it's still all there, but potentially
you just see what's in the flashlight. That was a
cool analogy for what she was experiencing, because I don't
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know how you put her experience into words. Really way
beyond words. And she had a on page seventy three,
see she had a chat with her dad, not verbal
like it was more a mutual comprehension, and he was
letting her know that well, it's not her time to
come home yet it was her choice and that she
(09:31):
could choose to go over, but there was a line
she couldn't cross. So she had to either choose to
move on and go to I guess the afterlife experience,
or she could choose to come back. And one second,
she chose to die, but then she saw how destroyed
her family was, and she had another revelation that she
(09:52):
really had a message to share and she had a
purpose to fulfill, and that if she actually chose to
go back, she would be cancer free within days, like
fast rapid, rapid healing. And so she chose to come back.
Thank you for that, because we all get to experience
her amazing insights and she's benefited the world in ways
(10:14):
that's hard to describe through her coming back and storytelling
and teaching. So but she lived and felt purposeful in that,
and you'll see in chapter nine, and it's interesting how
she could relate to all the doctors everything that said,
and they were really surprised about that and that she
was so happy when she came back. She had to
get moved out of her ICU ward because she was
(10:37):
disrupting all the ill patients. She was just too high
on life and music and ice cream. So but her
tumors all shrunk away and her glands went down, and
everything looked different for her. She looked out the window,
ironically of where she grew up as a child, and
all the colors were different and brighter, and life was great.
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That's what I got out of those three chapters.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And it sounds like it makes you feel really good too, Yeah,
just like yay. That's one of the things I really
love about the way she writes this is there's an excitement,
there's a there's uh yeah. She really wants to share
it with people and make people feel a lot better
(11:26):
about themselves about the experience and to eliminate fear. And
I'm going to add a little bit to what I
got out of this these three chapters in chapter seven
where she talks about leaving the world behind. So she's
quite detailed in this, and the people who I've experienced
(11:46):
some of the things she talks about are things that
I've heard from others who have had these experiences too,
And I'm just so grateful, Like you were, Marianna. You
know that she's back and she's sharing this with us.
Some of the things that were happening to her that
I thought were really fascinating was that she was totally
aware of everything that was going on around her, even
(12:07):
though she was in a coma, and not to the
point of just the people there, like she was hearing
things right next to her bed or whatever. But she
was aware from the standpoint of being able to perceive
when people were talking forty feet away or one hundred
miles away or in an airplane. She knew what was
(12:31):
going on, but from a more elevated state, which I
thought was really fascinating. And she became aware of like
everything and everyone as she was going through this, and
it didn't seem like she was aware of the fact
she was actually in a coma until after she started
(12:51):
coming back and began to think about it. But again,
as Marianne had said, as her emotions would draw her
back into the physical body, she was also being pulled
the opposite direction and becoming more expanded, to the point
where she said she didn't even feel like her small
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little body could hold who she was. There was one
point on page sixty five where she said something about
the soul was finally recognizing its true magnificence. It was
expanded beyond the physical world into no space, no time,
no separation, connections to everything did not need any words,
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It was just perceptions. It was like you could feel
the emotion that was being put forth from both the
people in the physical and then also the people in
the other realm. And there was an excitement that enveloped her,
this love and caring and it was really unconditional love.
(14:00):
And she talked about a three sixty peripheral vision that
she could see everything, she could feel everything. She described
time as being different, not linear like we put one
thing after the other, but more that it all happened simultaneously.
That was on page sixty seven. I thought that was
(14:22):
pretty fascinating. And then page sixty eight she said things
began to make so much sense to her, the clarity,
and all of a sudden, she has his Aha moment
that God isn't a being but a state of being,
and now she was that state of being and that
had to have been a huge, huge impact on her
(14:46):
and her trying to describe in this book what she
was experiencing again, being authentic, being, being yourself, expressing who
you truly are was another thing on page sixty nine
that came up. And even though the questions came at
her like why did I beat myself up so much?
You know, why did I distrust her look outside for approval,
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she couldn't understand why she ever did that in her life.
And then on page seventy she had an aha moment
that she deserved to be loved simply because she existed,
and that this expanded, magnificent essence was her everything belongs
to an infinite whole, and that we're all one. So
(15:32):
those were huge takebacks for her coming out of this
near death experience. She even shares with us that trying
to write it seemed confusing. It was much more clear
just to kind of feel it. So then into chapter
eight something infinite and all together fantastic again, Marianne just
(15:53):
talked about that warehouse experience, and she said, there just
was this vastness. You just knew there was a vastness,
a complexity and depth, a breath of breath of everything there.
It was just more. You just knew there was more,
and you just couldn't quite reach to the end of it,
but you were very aware that it was there and
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communicating with those on the other side, with her father
and her friend were really the communications coming through emotion
and a perception no words were ever needed. So she
had a big aha at the end of that on
page seventy five, that she understood that her body was
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a reflection of the inner self, and that that in
herself it's greatness and connection to all that is when
the body reflects that it's healthy, it's healed. And so
that was something she brought back with her. So moving
on to chapter nine, or just at the very end
of chapter eight, she was encouraged or told by her
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father and her friend go back and be fearless. She
knew she would heal. And when chapter nine, I think
the biggest thing I got out of chapter nine was
really from the title, realizing the miracle. Everybody looked at
this like it was a miracle everyone had prayed and
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had whether they were Buddhists, or whether they were Hindi,
or whether they were Catholic, or whether it was her
husband wanting to will her back to life. Her coming
back was just an astonishment, a miracle to them, a
miracle to the doctors. And as she became more aware,
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she became aware of that miracle too, realizing though that
this really wasn't a miracle, this was herself, truly who
she was, coming back and healing herself, and how magnificent
the world was. So those were a couple things that
I wanted to add. And we'll go on to our
next co host as well. So we're going to come
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away and you are in Sydney.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I am in Sydney, and I'm actually at a conference
today called the Purpose Conference. And this book fits so well.
I feel like jumping up on stage saying, realize that
it's all wonderful, just grasp it and do it. The
big warehouse that Marianne spoke of of possibility. So the
first chapter in that Letting Go, it goes quite deeply
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into the process of dying stage and looking at her
own body and noticing all the nurses and doctors and
what people are saying, and this real amazing awareness even
when they say negative things like oh, she's hardly we
can't even give her, you know, the intravenous so the
needles into the veins because her veins are so small
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and she's got no muscles. She talks later about being
able to hear all of that, and her brother actually
goes to the person who said it and they're like,
I didn't realize she could hear she was in a coma.
So we're given these little pieces of information as well,
like don't assume because someone's in a coma they can't
hear you. And as she's sharing, not only can they hear,
(19:08):
but she was able to see sense watch everything she
shares that at times, you know, it was it's really
stranged her that she couldn't understand why she couldn't reach people,
including a nup who wasn't in the room. So from
the perspective where she was leaving the physical form, she
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had the feeling that she should be able to communicate
with people across time, across space, in this case with
a noop. She also was incredibly empathic, as she said
she could feel that her brother was overwhelmed emotionally, and
at the same time, while she was starting to get
involved in the dramas, she would feel herself. The words
(19:51):
she uses are felt expanding away and that everything is
as it should be in a grandest scheme. So you
really get taken on the journey of going right into
the physicality and the body death process, that tapping into
everything around through the five senses, but beyond the five senses,
because it's not her senses picking them up. And then
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that ability to have this massive empathy or being able
to feel where other people are at as it was mentioned,
she picked up on those energies of her father and
Sony In a nonverbal but very clear communication, she shares
too that she had with this something beyond the five senses.
(20:38):
It was three hundred and sixty degree vision. And as
we often said, if you close your eyes and go
into that darkness and sense instead of see, how far
can you know what's behind you? Where's that awareness? So
again in the teachings of grandmother Parachute, knowing that there
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is awareness beyond five senses, and how much do we
close our eyes and be aware of what's around us?
So each time I was reading through this, I'm realizing
that these are teachings that we've had, that everything she's
sharing can be done without needing to die or go
through the death process to experience it. She was sharing
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having the body in all points of time and space
at once, and the clarity, really amazing clarity of the
point in the universe and her purpose, and that's what
was really triggering on today's presentation Businesses with Purpose and
hearing people talk about purpose and realizing that in this
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death state, when everything has dropped, the pretenses are dropped,
the limitations are dropped, that this is when purpose has
amazing clarity. That part two where she sees everyone, everything
she's ever been in contact with, that she's one thread.
(22:05):
And again, in the words of GMP, her mother parishah
to know that we're unique, but we do have this,
We're needed. Every single one is different. Every one of
your listeners are one of those threads, uniquely woven in
and she states that a key thing was the questions
that came. Why be so harsh on that myself? Why
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not stand up for myself? Why say yes when all
I wanted to do was say no. Why don't we
realize this when we're in our bodies. Why don't we
know that we're not meant to be so tough on ourselves?
I love that bit that keeps going over. You know
that one deserve there's not even a deserving, it just is.
And in that chapter eight, the infinite and all that
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comes together out of that fantastic warehouse and Marianne's given
us a great description of it there with the visual
two and also to know that in that warehouse time
was irrelevant. But there came the part where not so
much calling at time. But you can't go further than
this place, is what her father said. And she said
there was an energy, a change in energy, and she
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realized if she stepped through that frequency change, she couldn't
come back. She moves through its takes us through to
chapter nine where she shares all of the people in
the outside around her, whether it was praying with the Buddhist,
whether it was her mother with Ganesh, whether it was
the Catholic family, whether it was Danny, all of them
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having an outcome that they wanted for her, and that
outpouring of love was definitely there. And at the same time,
when she decided to come back into the body, she
was the one then that was not only in high
spirits for herself, but she had an outpouring of love
for every single person that came to her, an outpouring
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of love for the nurses who tended her, for everyone
in the ward, for everyone that she could see, and
looking outside it was her childhood place. This is a
new start a fresh, beautiful world to notice all the details.
And that's a message to us that final part every
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day we wake up is a brand new opportunity for
a fresh, beautiful start.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Thank you so much. That was a great reflection. And
there's so much information in this particular these couple chapters too.
It seems like everybody's picking up a little bit different perspective,
a little bit of what's going on. That's really unique.
And that's what's so fabulous about coming from perspectives of
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each one of us. And maybe when we have enough
time afterwards, we can talk about if we've had those
kinds of connections with people. But thank you so much
for sharing that out the way, and we're going to
move on to the next host. Steven. See what he
got out of these three chapters.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yes, absolutely such a great quoot. In chapter seven, she has,
you know the experience of watching that she's taken to
the hospital where you know, she's feeling the reactions of
her family and the doctors for a body state, and
she's aware of everything going on around her, and you know,
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her family is so worried and they're sad, and she's
watching all this, but she's in a state where she
feels great, she's no longer in pain, She's feeling everything
is wonderful, and she wants to communicate that to them.
She's actually merged, she says, into such a state of
(25:47):
consciousness that she not only understands what they're feeling, but
she's encompassing everything that was happening, like she's just out
of space in time. She's you know, she's feeling the
people in the room with their body, she's feeling her
brother who is on a plane on the way to
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see her. All at the same time, she's no she
has no limitations of what she's understanding, what she's seeing.
And you know, what stood out to me is that
we have this consciousness of all the things that are
happening right now, and we really know in ourselves we
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have that ability and we have that conscious we're just
not tapped into it. We know what someone is saying
about us, you know, across the world, we know how
people feel about us, and that every you know, this
is just this is a natural state of ourselves. So
kind of like pretending to hide you know, things about
yourself and not really being you as kind of just
(26:50):
like a denial. It's kind of just pretending not to
know this thing, and it's your choice not to tap
into that. And it's kind of like putting your hand
in front of your eyes and thinking that you're hiding.
And I know, with her description of what you know
(27:10):
death is like, and after hearing that, you know, I'm
really replacing inside myself and like the dread of some
this dark place or like an unknown destination that we're
going to with death, you know, I'm kind of replacing
that with what she talks about when she describes, you know,
the love, the joy, the ecstasy just pouring into her
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and the feeling of love that was so intense that
it made the term unconditional seem shallow. And what stood
out to me also was the fact that she could
see all things pertain to her, not just what was
happening now, but she could see everything in the past
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and what was happening now, and everything in the field
cnature all at once. She's seeing the whole timeline of
her being. That was that was really fascinating to me.
And in her state of consciousness, she realized why she
had the cancer and that God was not a being
but a state of being, and she realized she was
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in that state of being. She was that state of
being right now, and she saw that every experience that
she had in her life was integral to who They're
all like little threads, each person, each experience was a
thread that made up who she was, and that also
that her thread, just being one thread, was very integral
(28:45):
to the whole. She saw the value and well, I mean,
you know, these realizations are things that you know, I could,
I am you could definitely put on my bucket list
and to realize and I'm seeing a point of this
book is actually, you know, to help people get to
those realizations, you know, before you kick the bucket. She
(29:09):
she you know, she realized the value of herself and
her uniqueness and that trying to be anyone else is,
you know, depriving the universe of who she came to be.
And I know that understanding and understanding that and understanding
that my uniqueness is valuable, it lets me understand how others,
(29:33):
other uniquenesses are also valuable. And it helped me to
be tolerant and qualities and others that are different from
my own because I realized that everybody has a specific gift.
And another realization that she had was that she deserved
to be loved just because she existed, And I mean,
(29:55):
what a concept. We're taught that our value is dependent
on certain conditions, and I know, you know, for myself,
there's so many insights in this book that I need
to revisit, like each of these has it can be
a real change in how you view the world. You know,
the concept of death and what happens at the end
(30:16):
of your life as such an effect on how we
live life. So I'm really happy to be reading the
book and getting that, you know, new perspectives on it.
And you know, I've conceptually known these ideas, but hearing
it from someone speaking from experience is so valuable to
taking it in as like my personal belief. And I like,
(30:40):
you know, in chapter eight, she describes the opening of
her consciousness where and she gives the example of the
warehouse and just having a small light in the warehouse
and then someone turns on the light and then you
see everything and you realize, you know, how large everything is.
And I think gives a great example of what happens
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after death. And she realized that being the love that
truly was, that she truly was, could heal herself and others.
When she had come back, she knew that when she
would return, she would heal very quickly, and actually she
healed so quickly that the doctors insisted on continuing tests
(31:23):
because they just couldn't believe that the cancer was gone.
They told her she knew the cancer was gone, but
they said it it doesn't just occure like that, So
they kept doing tests until finally they had to admit
that she was cancer free. So it's it's an amazing story.
It's an amazing book. And that's that's what I got
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out of the this week.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Well, so appreciate you sharing some of your thoughts, a
couple of them about, you know, really depriving people of
who you are. That that idea that if you weren't
truly authentic, then no one gets to really experience you,
you don't get to experience them. And also that the
concept of being a thread in that tapestry connecting with
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all the other threads. Those were two amazing pieces in
the in the book that she described, and what a
gift for sharing with us, to give us an impression,
to give us a sense of what she was experiencing.
So now I'm going to go on to Joyce Smullenhauer
and see what she got out of these three chapters.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Yes, there was a lot in these chapters, obviously, and
I think sort of overall. A statement I would say
about my own reaction was I was fascinated how she
was able to interweave all that she experienced and then
included these profound truths that we can I believe after
(33:00):
to reading her and having studied with grandmother Parashaw, I
believe that some of many, maybe I'll say most of
the truths that she discusses in these three chapters our
truths that we can touch into in our own lives,
and we and when we do touch into them, our
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lives will change. So she points out some of the
ways we limit ourselves with our thoughts, and how we
our five senses actually actually block understanding for us because
we tend to look at one point at a time
instead of the bigger picture. So certainly her visual that
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she gives us about being part of this beautiful tapestry
of life and being a thread in it fits right
into that, because we can become that larger tapestry once
we become connected with all those other threats. So I
was pretty excited over some of the things that she
(34:06):
did share about the truths that she started to understand.
And I love the fact that she stressed how she
recognized everything was perfect. It would be perfect if she
made the decision to stay in the o realm, it
would be perfect if she died, and she knew the
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outcome for both of those and that it was all
going to be just okay. I loved her description of
her dad that in the after death, the cultural influences
that had been such a almost a block for her
and her relationship with her dad were totally gone. There
was none of that influence. When she interacted with him
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in the outer realm. She became so aware that the
entire universe is alive, and I loved the that she
included the cosmos. She included inanimate objects along with the insects,
the human beings, the birds. She helped me understand the
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gain that there isn't anything that I touch, youse think
about that isn't part of that larger universe that I
am interacting with, even when I don't recognize I'm interacting.
I loved all the words she used about unconditional love
that she was experiencing, that it was so blissful she
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could hardly even imagine returning to her body or to life,
and that she wanted to just stay and be in
the atmosphere and that energy forever. She also found herself
because there was no limits of time and space. Whatever
(36:00):
she put her interest in, her focus in, she got
the whole panorama of everything that was involved. So gain this.
I saw this as another challenge for us in life
is to just maybe start even entertaining the thought that
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what limits am I actually putting on myself? Where are
my focuses so narrow that I can't see the big picture?
So everything that she said, I found myself just challenging. Okay,
how can I use this? And how different my life
would be when I understand the power of it all.
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So this is beyond just maybe or when the day
comes that we actually die. The challenge of this book
is what we can use so that in this lifetime
we're very, very different in how we approach. She definitely
is happy and grateful to reconnect with her family, but
(37:06):
it's mixed with the sadness of leaving behind the amazing
beauty and freedom she calls it of the outer realm
She found herself when she was first back in consciousness,
that she wanted to cry about every little thing, and
she felt such a bond with everyone, and that's already
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been mentioned how she just felt love for the staff
that were there, for her family, for people that she
was thinking about at a distance. And then it was
so interesting the part when in chapter eight where it's
described all the different groups of people that were praying
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for her because she had had this varied growing up period.
The Hindu religion was represented and who was praying her mother,
the Buddhists, her friend was doing had organized a Buddhist
chanting group for to pray for her to heal. She
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had a Roman Catholic friend who organized a prayer group.
So this was not a common experience of life that
Anita is representing, but she is representing the importance of
all of that variation. So it was It's a very
(38:31):
exciting book, every inch of the book, but these three
chapters were definitely interesting to work with this week.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
So appreciate your insights, Joyce. There is so much truth
and love that comes through these pages that she's sharing
with us. And my thought always is like you flip
it in yourself, can you see yourself as something greater
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and bigger than a body.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
And when she was.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Talking about her father and actually experience him, experience him
not as a body, not as a race, not as
a religion, none of these connotations we put on things
as physical. It seems that if we can shed all
of that and really just grasp that magnificence of who
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we are and the piece of divinity that we are,
Grandmother Parish is always telling us we are not a body,
and that we are so much greater, that we are divine,
that we are of the creator. And this is exactly
what's coming through these pages. So I was wondering. I
had a question for Marianne about, given that you are
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a clinical therapist and that you do see patients, do
any the patients that you ever work with, do they
ever come in and talk about a near death experience
or anything similar to this.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I don't think I've had anyone.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I can't recall off the top of my head anybody.
But sometimes when we do emdr processing that allows you
to tap into the subconscious, and from that place, people
can have all sorts of experiences like this, where they're
talking to loved ones or seeing themselves from a whole
different place of awareness, like a spiritual place of awareness,
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and from that spot can change how they think or
let go of perceptions that they had. So I think
we can tap this state. We don't have to die,
and there are many modalities that help us get beyond
our conscious logical mind.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Appreciate that a lot. Is there another another co host
who's ever run into something like this? I know that
you'd like to share or talk about. I know Joyce
has worked with hospice work and with patients with near
(41:24):
coming to the terms of near death. Have you had
anything that has come present with you?
Speaker 7 (41:32):
I think what related to these three chapters that I
found myself picturing being right there? The time span over
everything that she's saying in three chapters actually is about
twelve hours initially until she does come back. And as
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you read through this, it sounds like it's a really
long story and all these things are happening. So I'm
finding myself recognizing the times when it seems like a
person has reached a point that there's no connection anymore
with the people that are at their bedside, and that
(42:15):
there I definitely I'm going to be a whole lot
more aware of being sensitive to what they could be experiencing.
So I'm not just sure how that's going to exactly
come forth, but I know that it's given me a
(42:35):
larger dimension of how I would like to be at
a person's bedside that seems to be taking hours and
hours and sometimes days to pass, but it's very obvious
that they are somewhere else than in their bodies. So
it's helpful to have read Anita's story here.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
I appreciate that I've kind of experienced, with the passing
of a couple loved ones that I've been around, that
experience of feeling like they're present and then feeling like
they're not present, and then the coming back and speaking
to me about things that they were seeing or things
that they were experiencing, And so it's to me, it's
(43:21):
really fascinating for sure. Delaware, Do you have something you
would like to add that may not have been covered.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
I think it's that part that I haven't come across
anyone who's mentioned anything about near death or not. But
it's it's the description that she has, not of being
everywhere when you're not in a particular limited set of
saying here's my hands, here's this here's that. And again
(43:51):
I'll take it back to nature, because there's certainly those
times when you can be outside and you might be
breathing just normal breathing in and out, and then noticing
the trees and then feeling that they're breathing out in
and out too, and then you sort of take it
to the next level. It's giving yourself those moments of
observing in nature and just being I can't say it's
(44:15):
the same expansive because I haven't been there, but certainly
there are those little glimmers and moments where you feel
like you're breathing in and out with the trees, and
then you feel there's not that separation. And I've read
too when people talk about the meditating and that point
where where you're in it and then you come back
to a bit of four. I don't know where my
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hand stops. I can't feel that, I can't feel that
boundary between my arm and what's outside of me. So
I think it's important to remember that what's being described
here can be with us in the live state, and
there are particular tools and things that we can do
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to be more conscious aware of that expanded state in
our everyday life. And indeed at this conference they've been
talking about a lot of the studies in nature and
showing the science and the statistics behind it that there
are these elevated states decrease cortisol, the stress markers, and
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an increased ability to be creative, and increased ability to
come back and retain information. So all that's already there
are science. It's a little tiny piece of what she's
sharing about the magnificence of the post physical body state.
So my point would be to remember that we have
the opportunity to reach into some of this at any time,
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or all of this at any time. And if you're
wondering a good step, my personal suggestion is to have
more time in nature, especially with your shoes off.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
That's lovely, that's really wonderful, and it is true. I mean,
you can you can watch the trees breathe, you can
watch nature respond, and there's so much it can show
us that we just slow ourselves down a little bit
and pay attention to it. Steve, did you have any
other comments that you would like to make today, points
(46:16):
not covered in the book.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
I can see how this information and her experience could
help a lot of people who grew up in with
teachings of you know, the afterlife and you know, the
teachings of hell and that type of thing. And I
(46:39):
know that there are some people that have you know,
quite a bit of fear and issues themselves of you know,
accepting that you know, a god would throw you in
the lake of fire kind of thing books, and I
can be I can you know, take up. I know
(46:59):
with my father that took out a lot of his
mind mind space through his life, and so in mhm,
in this kind of experience or this kind of story,
if people could change their you know, I have this
data and be able to consider that it could really
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relieve a lot of a lot of the stress and
a lot of the you know, the the anxiety that
people have with what's what's going to happen? It would
you know, it gives people a different perspective if they
choose to accept it. Because I know that when my
father was was first taught of hell and that they
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there was nobody in his he knew of no other teaching.
He knew of everyone that he knew in his circle
of influence believed you know, in that in that one
way of thinking. And so to know, I know that
when he realized there were people that thought differently, it
was a huge help to him because he realized he
(48:06):
wasn't alone and it really helped this could and I'm
sure it is being very helpful to people who are
going through that, and he'll leave a lot relieve a
lot of that stress. Just an insight I wanted to share.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yes, Grandmother Parrisha has actually said more than once on
this show, you know, buy this book and give it
to people.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
Give it to people.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Who are experiencing a loved one dying, Give it to
someone who actually is going through some disease themselves. Because
further in the book, we get to learn a little
bit more about what she learned about healing herself, and
that's going to be coming up in some of the
you know, next chapters, and that's one of the blessings
(48:55):
of this book. I know, for me personally, my husband
and partner has had three near death experiences and I've
been around for all of them, and we are connected
with a lot of people, some of them who actually
know Anita and Morjianny personally, I've never met her, but
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there are groups and conferences where the people get together
and they talk about their experiences, and I know from
what my husband has relayed was the choice that he
was given a choice, the experience of knowing everything that
was going on around him, even though he wasn't coherent
(49:40):
and couldn't speak to people, wanting to let them know
that he was okay, but not being able to connect
with them at all, and actually actually kind of walking
through some big AHAs for him and I myself during
one of those, had an experience of being completely enveloped
(50:03):
in the love when I just let go. I had
been told that he was not going to be, that
he wasn't going to make it, and to start preparing
for it, and just hitting a place of kind of
praying and asking and going through all of those things
of shock and anger and all those different mourning type
(50:28):
experiences and finally having an AHA moment of just letting
go that it wasn't me, it wasn't up to me
to make a choice, it was up to him. And
when I hit that place, this amount of love flooded
over me that I had never felt before in my
whole life. And that experience I can go back to,
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and so I can completely relate to Anita's experience of
saying things are never the same. After you've had these experiences,
things are completely different. You see things differently, and that
experience of complete love, I just knew clearly that everything
(51:15):
was perfect, everything was going to be just fine. And
went to the hospital and kissed him goodbye and said,
it's your choice, everything will be good. Stay for yourself,
not me or anyone else, and went home. And after
that he turned around a couple hours later and did
(51:36):
come back. And so I've tried to get him to
a share his story too. Maybe after this book, maybe
after these experiences he will he'll want to share more too.
But she also said this was personal to her and
sharing with people people didn't necessarily believe her or just thought, wow,
that's crazy, how did you know that? So for me,
(51:59):
there's a deep to this and really loving the fact
that she expressed it so incredibly beautifully. And so for me,
there's a lot of truth in this book from my
understandings of things, and so I just wanted to share
that little bit from my perspective. But we have a
(52:22):
couple more minutes, and so do the other co hosts
have anything that they would like to add. I see
Joyce would like to add something.
Speaker 7 (52:33):
I already did mention. This one point that impacted me
was and her exact words were, that everything in the universe,
everything that's alive, every human, every animal, plant, insect, mountain, see,
inanimate object, and cosmos we are connected with. So this
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is the most expansive life of connection that I could
ever imagine. Now, the other side of this connection is
that we influence all of that. So if there's any
challenge to take on at the beginning of every day,
when your eyes open, just keep in mind we are
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influencing all of that list.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
That's lovely. And can you imagine if you just embrace
that and closed your eyes and imagined yourself being that
connected to everything, just doing little exercises like that, how
it could make you feel every day. It just it's like,
oh my gosh, your heart just opens. Thank you so
(53:47):
much for sharing that. Does another co host have something
that they'd like to share?
Speaker 4 (53:55):
This is mari Anne from Melbourn. I feel like this.
We could practice this by practicing and going into the nothingness.
Grandmother teaches us how important some of these meditation practices
actually are, and her Anita's experience really highlights why. Like
going into the nothingness is turning off all the neural networks,
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all the belief systems, all the focus on body sensation
and experiencing ourselves beyond logical and developing that neural network
for that. And so it isn't something we all have
to wait to die to experience. I don't believe. I
think we can cultivate it.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
Absolutely. And that's the point I think that Grandmother Perishes
brought up before too, is that we don't have to
die to experience this. We can take time in our
lives and the practices like the meditations and going into
nothingness is a way one of the ways that we
can begin to experience this in our own life and
(55:01):
figure out find out experience how truly magnificent we are
and what we're capable of doing. Any comment from you, Aloe.
Speaker 5 (55:14):
I was really just smiling with joyces as well. It's
again from Grandmother paraschat to before opening the eyes to
stay today, I know and see a thousand beautiful things,
and my hands hold one hundred sacred objects, and as
I look around, I see great beauty in all I see.
(55:37):
So I think that helps us rewire those neurons we've
told them what to see become aware of seeing that
and we also create that by being aware.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
Beautiful. It's embracing the gift that we have in the physicality.
That is just amazing. And Steve, do you have anything
you'd like to add.
Speaker 6 (56:05):
I'm just enjoying the you know, the insights and being
able to change some things inside myself on you know,
my view of in knowing this kind of kind of
takes some I don't know whether it is maybe pressure
or anxiety out of my own thoughts as knowing that,
(56:28):
you know, whatever happens here, it's all going to be good.
Not like you know, it's it's kind of a kind
of a relaxing concept, you know, when when you have
other voices saying, you know, oh, you're going to be
doomed if this happens, or if that, if you don't,
you know, do this. There's so many different opinions, but
just to know, you know, at the end, it's it's
(56:49):
all going to be good and you're going to be accepted,
you know, back into that all loving you know, presence
and just know, you know, merge with the consciousness of
everything and and understand you know that you know, enter
into those consciousness, the consciousness that she that she talks
about and like Marianne was saying, it's it's something that
(57:11):
we can do now. It's not like we have to wait.
We just have to you know. And I think a
step in that is is understanding and taking to ourselves
these realities that it is like that, and being able
to be more more free and not so afraid of
every mistake and every misstep. So great, great information.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
I just think it's beautiful and that if we take
this to heart and we really look at ourselves, at
who we are, and that while we're here in our bodies,
we're here to experience and learn and love more than anything,
to bring that love forward. It's just she gave us
so many things. I would so encourage everyone to get
(57:57):
this book and it called Dying to Be me Anita
more Johnny, and really take in these chapters because there's
so much depth in them. So it's about time that
we conclude our studies today, and we really want to
thank you all for sharing your time and energy with us,
because truly, like you've heard here, you matter and you count,
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and you're here to make a difference. You're here to
be authentic and to be you and share yourself and
really truly make a difference. So we look forward to
being with having you be with us next week as
we make that leap to greater consciousness. So have a
really powerful week and allow your light to shine and
(58:43):
always all good things to you.
Speaker 4 (58:45):
Oh see.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome to Law Attraction Radio Networks Quantum Leap Book Club.
We are so happy to have you with us today.
We are actually working on a wonderful book and can't
wait to get back to sharing with you. So our
host is Parisha and she is traveling and teaching today.
(01:00):
So our co hosts are going to be sharing with
you for the rest of the show. And so my
name is Trina Cooper and I am from Denver, Colorado
or nearabouts Denver, Colorado. We also have Geraldine dalby Ball
where we also call her Laway. She's an environmental biologist
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from Sydney, Australia. We have Joyce Mullenhauer, doctor of naturopathy
from Kingman, Arizona. Mary Anne Love, a clinical psychologist from Melbourne, Australia,
and Steve Jones, an entrepreneur and Kingman, Arizona. So we've
got a great lineup for you today. And we're presently
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studying the book Dying to Be Me My Journey from
Cancer to Near Death to True Healing by Anita Morgianni.
And it's interesting because the forward of this book is
written by doctor Wayne Dyer, who actually found her information,
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found her story and really really asked her promoted her
to get her story out in the world. And this
story is really about her near death experience and what
came out of it for her. So currently we are
studying chapters seven through nine. So chapter seven is leaving
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the world behind, Chapter eight is something infinite and altogether fantastic,
and chapter nine is realizing the miracle. So in this
particular segment, we really are diving into her near death
experience and what was going on around her and also
(02:52):
the reactions of everyone, including herself when she did come
back off this experience. So we're going to start in
chapter seven leaving the World Behind, and we're going to
start with our co host mary Anne Love from Sydney, Australia,
and if you'd like to share, that would be fabulous.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I'd love to share. I'm actually from Melbourneways from Sorry.
This is a beautiful storyline and she's such a wonderful writer.
I love reading this. It's such an easy read. Totally
encourage people to get this book. You'll love it. But
what was really interesting about chapter seven was she actually
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pretty much came as close to death as you could get.
She ended up in a coma and they took her
to the larger hospital. So this hospital wasn't where she
normally got a treatment, and they were really shocked to
see her that she was coming in in this state
because they had basically just taking a look at her.
They pretty much gave up on her and obviously sent
(04:01):
the family into huge distress because they feeling they felt
like they were going to lose her. But what happened
for her was she became almost free, like she became liberated,
like she felt light and healed, she felt whole, she
felt pain free, and from that stage she actually could
not understand why the family was so upset, Like for
(04:23):
a bit, it took her a little bit to understand
that they were experiencing something completely different than her reality.
She'd just moved out of the five senses and felt whole,
so but her body was pretty lifeless. Her lungs were
filled with fluid, she was choking like it would have
been pretty horrific site for the family to experience. And
(04:47):
they even said on page sixty one how they tried
to the hospital wanted to I guess, assess weather where
she was up to with the cancer, and they put
her in a machine that she could only handle thirty
seconds of at a time before they needed to pull
her out and put her on oxygen. But she was
coughering and splattering, and the family had to witness all
of that, so they were terrified. But she was good.
(05:12):
She was aware of every detail that was happening all
around her. She had no attachment to her body like
she just felt fantastic, and even in that state, like
she became aware of her On page sixty three, you'll
see her husband was talking to the doctor and she
(05:33):
could hear that whole conversation, and then she noticed if
she got really drawn into the anguish, like all the
emotions the family were feeling, she actually got further and
further pulled away from that space, so it's almost like
she could see it from further and further away, and
she really became like a full expanded consciousness, like she
(05:54):
became everyone and everything. She could even be aware of
her brother on the plane on a way to see her,
and he actually jumped on the plane because he felt
that something was wrong. He didn't actually received the call
as yet, he was already on his way. She could
see his anguish, yes, so it was hard for her
to witness that, but at the same time, she felt
(06:14):
so fabulous that she couldn't quite understand, you know, exactly
what they were all so upset about. She finally was
emancipated from all the pain, and all her emotional detachments
fell away, like she all the fears she'd been experiencing
for years. She just felt ecstasy and pure unconditional love
and non judgment. And on page sixty six you'll see
(06:37):
that she actually becomes aware of Father is there, and he,
like I guess, telepathically lets her know that he's always
been there for her and the family and you remember
her friend Sony that died the year before. She became
aware of Sony and basically merged with Sony and could
experience all her loved ones. So it's sort of like
(06:59):
this base of unlimited perception, and she could feel that
she could be aware of the past and the future
all at the same time, she was aware that her
brother a Noop in another lifetime, she was a Noop's
older sister, you know, like all these It's amazing really
what she experienced from this place, and she was saying
(07:21):
that it's actually the five senses that limit us to
a focus in time. So without the senses, we're free,
where we can take up all space and all time.
And from that awareness she realized even why she got
the cancer, not from a blaming perspective, just from an
understanding of how that all evolved, how her whole life
(07:43):
experience had unfolded for her to end up in this
space of having cancer, And in that she became to
the understanding that she, like all of us, really owed
it to herself to express her own uniqueness, because part
of the experience of cancer was her suppression of herself,
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and that we're all unique, and that all we have
to do is express that uniqueness and be authentic in it.
And she just realized how beautiful being she was in
the universe, and to not express that is our portrayal
of herself, a violation of the self, really, and that
takes us on to chapter eight. I love the analogy
(08:29):
she shared here because she talks about how it's like
our experience is like looking in a huge warehouse and
all we see is one little flashlight, and then you
can just see what's in the flashlight. But if someone
suddenly turns on the lights of the warehouse, you'd see
this amazing color, like rainbow strode music playing. Everyone would
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be happy, like it'd be full of everything you can
imagine in third dimension, and it's all there. It's like
it's all existing in the warehouse, and when the lights
go off, you know it's still all there, but potentially
you just see what's in the flashlight. That was a
cool analogy for what she was experiencing, because I don't
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know how you put her experience into words. Really way
beyond words. And she had a on page seventy three,
see she had a chat with her dad, not verbal
like it was more a mutual comprehension, and he was
letting her know that well, it's not her time to
come home yet it was her choice and that she
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could choose to go over, but there was a line
she couldn't cross. So she had to either choose to
move on and go to I guess the afterlife experience,
or she could choose to come back. And one second,
she chose to die, but then she saw how destroyed
her family was, and she had another revelation that she
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really had a message to share and she had a
purpose to fulfill, and that if she actually chose to
go back, she would be cancer free within days, like
fast rapid, rapid healing. And so she chose to come back.
Thank you for that, because we all get to experience
her amazing insights and she's benefited the world in ways
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that's hard to describe through her coming back and storytelling
and teaching. So but she lived and felt purposeful in that,
and you'll see in chapter nine, and it's interesting how
she could relate to all the doctors everything that said,
and they were really surprised about that and that she
was so happy when she came back. She had to
get moved out of her ICU ward because she was
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disrupting all the ill patients. She was just too high
on life and music and ice cream. So but her
tumors all shrunk away and her glands went down, and
everything looked different for her. She looked out the window,
ironically of where she grew up as a child, and
all the colors were different and brighter, and life was great.
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That's what I got out of those three chapters.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And it sounds like it makes you feel really good too, Yeah,
just like yay. That's one of the things I really
love about the way she writes this is there's an excitement,
there's a there's uh yeah. She really wants to share
it with people and make people feel a lot better
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about themselves about the experience and to eliminate fear. And
I'm going to add a little bit to what I
got out of this these three chapters in chapter seven
where she talks about leaving the world behind. So she's
quite detailed in this, and the people who I've experienced
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some of the things she talks about are things that
I've heard from others who have had these experiences too,
And I'm just so grateful, Like you were, Marianna. You
know that she's back and she's sharing this with us.
Some of the things that were happening to her that
I thought were really fascinating was that she was totally
aware of everything that was going on around her, even
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though she was in a coma, and not to the
point of just the people there, like she was hearing
things right next to her bed or whatever. But she
was aware from the standpoint of being able to perceive
when people were talking forty feet away or one hundred
miles away or in an airplane. She knew what was
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going on, but from a more elevated state, which I
thought was really fascinating. And she became aware of like
everything and everyone as she was going through this, and
it didn't seem like she was aware of the fact
she was actually in a coma until after she started
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coming back and began to think about it. But again,
as Marianne had said, as her emotions would draw her
back into the physical body, she was also being pulled
the opposite direction and becoming more expanded, to the point
where she said she didn't even feel like her small
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little body could hold who she was. There was one
point on page sixty five where she said something about
the soul was finally recognizing its true magnificence. It was
expanded beyond the physical world into no space, no time,
no separation, connections to everything did not need any words,
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It was just perceptions. It was like you could feel
the emotion that was being put forth from both the
people in the physical and then also the people in
the other realm. And there was an excitement that enveloped her,
this love and caring and it was really unconditional love.
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And she talked about a three sixty peripheral vision that
she could see everything, she could feel everything. She described
time as being different, not linear like we put one
thing after the other, but more that it all happened simultaneously.
That was on page sixty seven. I thought that was
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pretty fascinating. And then page sixty eight she said things
began to make so much sense to her, the clarity,
and all of a sudden, she has his Aha moment
that God isn't a being but a state of being,
and now she was that state of being and that
had to have been a huge, huge impact on her
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and her trying to describe in this book what she
was experiencing again, being authentic, being, being yourself, expressing who
you truly are was another thing on page sixty nine
that came up. And even though the questions came at
her like why did I beat myself up so much?
You know, why did I distrust her look outside for approval,
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she couldn't understand why she ever did that in her life.
And then on page seventy she had an aha moment
that she deserved to be loved simply because she existed,
and that this expanded, magnificent essence was her everything belongs
to an infinite whole, and that we're all one. So
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those were huge takebacks for her coming out of this
near death experience. She even shares with us that trying
to write it seemed confusing. It was much more clear
just to kind of feel it. So then into chapter
eight something infinite and all together fantastic again, Marianne just
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talked about that warehouse experience, and she said, there just
was this vastness. You just knew there was a vastness,
a complexity and depth, a breath of breath of everything there.
It was just more. You just knew there was more,
and you just couldn't quite reach to the end of it,
but you were very aware that it was there and
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communicating with those on the other side, with her father
and her friend were really the communications coming through emotion
and a perception no words were ever needed. So she
had a big aha at the end of that on
page seventy five, that she understood that her body was
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a reflection of the inner self, and that that in
herself it's greatness and connection to all that is when
the body reflects that it's healthy, it's healed. And so
that was something she brought back with her. So moving
on to chapter nine, or just at the very end
of chapter eight, she was encouraged or told by her
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father and her friend go back and be fearless. She
knew she would heal. And when chapter nine, I think
the biggest thing I got out of chapter nine was
really from the title, realizing the miracle. Everybody looked at
this like it was a miracle everyone had prayed and
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had whether they were Buddhists, or whether they were Hindi,
or whether they were Catholic, or whether it was her
husband wanting to will her back to life. Her coming
back was just an astonishment, a miracle to them, a
miracle to the doctors. And as she became more aware,
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she became aware of that miracle too, realizing though that
this really wasn't a miracle, this was herself, truly who
she was, coming back and healing herself, and how magnificent
the world was. So those were a couple things that
I wanted to add. And we'll go on to our
next co host as well. So we're going to come
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away and you are in Sydney.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I am in Sydney, and I'm actually at a conference
today called the Purpose Conference. And this book fits so well.
I feel like jumping up on stage saying, realize that
it's all wonderful, just grasp it and do it. The
big warehouse that Marianne spoke of of possibility. So the
first chapter in that Letting Go, it goes quite deeply
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into the process of dying stage and looking at her
own body and noticing all the nurses and doctors and
what people are saying, and this real amazing awareness even
when they say negative things like oh, she's hardly we
can't even give her, you know, the intravenous so the
needles into the veins because her veins are so small
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and she's got no muscles. She talks later about being
able to hear all of that, and her brother actually
goes to the person who said it and they're like,
I didn't realize she could hear she was in a coma.
So we're given these little pieces of information as well,
like don't assume because someone's in a coma they can't
hear you. And as she's sharing, not only can they hear,
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but she was able to see sense watch everything she
shares that at times, you know, it was it's really
stranged her that she couldn't understand why she couldn't reach people,
including a nup who wasn't in the room. So from
the perspective where she was leaving the physical form, she
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had the feeling that she should be able to communicate
with people across time, across space, in this case with
a noop. She also was incredibly empathic, as she said
she could feel that her brother was overwhelmed emotionally, and
at the same time, while she was starting to get
involved in the dramas, she would feel herself. The words
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she uses are felt expanding away and that everything is
as it should be in a grandest scheme. So you
really get taken on the journey of going right into
the physicality and the body death process, that tapping into
everything around through the five senses, but beyond the five senses,
because it's not her senses picking them up. And then
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that ability to have this massive empathy or being able
to feel where other people are at as it was mentioned,
she picked up on those energies of her father and
Sony In a nonverbal but very clear communication, she shares
too that she had with this something beyond the five senses.
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It was three hundred and sixty degree vision. And as
we often said, if you close your eyes and go
into that darkness and sense instead of see, how far
can you know what's behind you? Where's that awareness? So
again in the teachings of grandmother Parachute, knowing that there
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is awareness beyond five senses, and how much do we
close our eyes and be aware of what's around us?
So each time I was reading through this, I'm realizing
that these are teachings that we've had, that everything she's
sharing can be done without needing to die or go
through the death process to experience it. She was sharing
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having the body in all points of time and space
at once, and the clarity, really amazing clarity of the
point in the universe and her purpose, and that's what
was really triggering on today's presentation Businesses with Purpose and
hearing people talk about purpose and realizing that in this
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death state, when everything has dropped, the pretenses are dropped,
the limitations are dropped, that this is when purpose has
amazing clarity. That part two where she sees everyone, everything
she's ever been in contact with, that she's one thread.
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And again, in the words of GMP, her mother parishah
to know that we're unique, but we do have this,
We're needed. Every single one is different. Every one of
your listeners are one of those threads, uniquely woven in
and she states that a key thing was the questions
that came. Why be so harsh on that myself? Why
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not stand up for myself? Why say yes when all
I wanted to do was say no. Why don't we
realize this when we're in our bodies. Why don't we
know that we're not meant to be so tough on ourselves?
I love that bit that keeps going over. You know
that one deserve there's not even a deserving, it just is.
And in that chapter eight, the infinite and all that
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comes together out of that fantastic warehouse and Marianne's given
us a great description of it there with the visual
two and also to know that in that warehouse time
was irrelevant. But there came the part where not so
much calling at time. But you can't go further than
this place, is what her father said. And she said
there was an energy, a change in energy, and she
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realized if she stepped through that frequency change, she couldn't
come back. She moves through its takes us through to
chapter nine where she shares all of the people in
the outside around her, whether it was praying with the Buddhist,
whether it was her mother with Ganesh, whether it was
the Catholic family, whether it was Danny, all of them
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having an outcome that they wanted for her, and that
outpouring of love was definitely there. And at the same time,
when she decided to come back into the body, she
was the one then that was not only in high
spirits for herself, but she had an outpouring of love
for every single person that came to her, an outpouring
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of love for the nurses who tended her, for everyone
in the ward, for everyone that she could see, and
looking outside it was her childhood place. This is a
new start a fresh, beautiful world to notice all the details.
And that's a message to us that final part every
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day we wake up is a brand new opportunity for
a fresh, beautiful start.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Thank you so much. That was a great reflection. And
there's so much information in this particular these couple chapters too.
It seems like everybody's picking up a little bit different perspective,
a little bit of what's going on. That's really unique.
And that's what's so fabulous about coming from perspectives of
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each one of us. And maybe when we have enough
time afterwards, we can talk about if we've had those
kinds of connections with people. But thank you so much
for sharing that out the way, and we're going to
move on to the next host. Steven. See what he
got out of these three chapters.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yes, absolutely such a great quoot. In chapter seven, she has,
you know the experience of watching that she's taken to
the hospital where you know, she's feeling the reactions of
her family and the doctors for a body state, and
she's aware of everything going on around her, and you know,
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her family is so worried and they're sad, and she's
watching all this, but she's in a state where she
feels great, she's no longer in pain, She's feeling everything
is wonderful, and she wants to communicate that to them.
She's actually merged, she says, into such a state of
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consciousness that she not only understands what they're feeling, but
she's encompassing everything that was happening, like she's just out
of space in time. She's you know, she's feeling the
people in the room with their body, she's feeling her
brother who is on a plane on the way to
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see her. All at the same time, she's no she
has no limitations of what she's understanding, what she's seeing.
And you know, what stood out to me is that
we have this consciousness of all the things that are
happening right now, and we really know in ourselves we
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have that ability and we have that conscious we're just
not tapped into it. We know what someone is saying
about us, you know, across the world, we know how
people feel about us, and that every you know, this
is just this is a natural state of ourselves. So
kind of like pretending to hide you know, things about
yourself and not really being you as kind of just
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like a denial. It's kind of just pretending not to
know this thing, and it's your choice not to tap
into that. And it's kind of like putting your hand
in front of your eyes and thinking that you're hiding.
And I know, with her description of what you know
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death is like, and after hearing that, you know, I'm
really replacing inside myself and like the dread of some
this dark place or like an unknown destination that we're
going to with death, you know, I'm kind of replacing
that with what she talks about when she describes, you know,
the love, the joy, the ecstasy just pouring into her
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and the feeling of love that was so intense that
it made the term unconditional seem shallow. And what stood
out to me also was the fact that she could
see all things pertain to her, not just what was
happening now, but she could see everything in the past
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and what was happening now, and everything in the field
cnature all at once. She's seeing the whole timeline of
her being. That was that was really fascinating to me.
And in her state of consciousness, she realized why she
had the cancer and that God was not a being
but a state of being, and she realized she was
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in that state of being. She was that state of
being right now, and she saw that every experience that
she had in her life was integral to who They're
all like little threads, each person, each experience was a
thread that made up who she was, and that also
that her thread, just being one thread, was very integral
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to the whole. She saw the value and well, I mean,
you know, these realizations are things that you know, I could,
I am you could definitely put on my bucket list
and to realize and I'm seeing a point of this
book is actually, you know, to help people get to
those realizations, you know, before you kick the bucket. She
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she you know, she realized the value of herself and
her uniqueness and that trying to be anyone else is,
you know, depriving the universe of who she came to be.
And I know that understanding and understanding that and understanding
that my uniqueness is valuable, it lets me understand how others,
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other uniquenesses are also valuable. And it helped me to
be tolerant and qualities and others that are different from
my own because I realized that everybody has a specific gift.
And another realization that she had was that she deserved
to be loved just because she existed, And I mean,
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what a concept. We're taught that our value is dependent
on certain conditions, and I know, you know, for myself,
there's so many insights in this book that I need
to revisit, like each of these has it can be
a real change in how you view the world. You know,
the concept of death and what happens at the end
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of your life as such an effect on how we
live life. So I'm really happy to be reading the
book and getting that, you know, new perspectives on it.
And you know, I've conceptually known these ideas, but hearing
it from someone speaking from experience is so valuable to
taking it in as like my personal belief. And I like,
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you know, in chapter eight, she describes the opening of
her consciousness where and she gives the example of the
warehouse and just having a small light in the warehouse
and then someone turns on the light and then you
see everything and you realize, you know, how large everything is.
And I think gives a great example of what happens
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after death. And she realized that being the love that
truly was, that she truly was, could heal herself and others.
When she had come back, she knew that when she
would return, she would heal very quickly, and actually she
healed so quickly that the doctors insisted on continuing tests
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because they just couldn't believe that the cancer was gone.
They told her she knew the cancer was gone, but
they said it it doesn't just occure like that, So
they kept doing tests until finally they had to admit
that she was cancer free. So it's it's an amazing story.
It's an amazing book. And that's that's what I got
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out of the this week.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Well, so appreciate you sharing some of your thoughts, a
couple of them about, you know, really depriving people of
who you are. That that idea that if you weren't
truly authentic, then no one gets to really experience you,
you don't get to experience them. And also that the
concept of being a thread in that tapestry connecting with
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all the other threads. Those were two amazing pieces in
the in the book that she described, and what a
gift for sharing with us, to give us an impression,
to give us a sense of what she was experiencing.
So now I'm going to go on to Joyce Smullenhauer
and see what she got out of these three chapters.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Yes, there was a lot in these chapters, obviously, and
I think sort of overall. A statement I would say
about my own reaction was I was fascinated how she
was able to interweave all that she experienced and then
included these profound truths that we can I believe after
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to reading her and having studied with grandmother Parashaw, I
believe that some of many, maybe I'll say most of
the truths that she discusses in these three chapters our
truths that we can touch into in our own lives,
and we and when we do touch into them, our
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lives will change. So she points out some of the
ways we limit ourselves with our thoughts, and how we
our five senses actually actually block understanding for us because
we tend to look at one point at a time
instead of the bigger picture. So certainly her visual that
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she gives us about being part of this beautiful tapestry
of life and being a thread in it fits right
into that, because we can become that larger tapestry once
we become connected with all those other threats. So I
was pretty excited over some of the things that she
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did share about the truths that she started to understand.
And I love the fact that she stressed how she
recognized everything was perfect. It would be perfect if she
made the decision to stay in the o realm, it
would be perfect if she died, and she knew the
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outcome for both of those and that it was all
going to be just okay. I loved her description of
her dad that in the after death, the cultural influences
that had been such a almost a block for her
and her relationship with her dad were totally gone. There
was none of that influence. When she interacted with him
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in the outer realm. She became so aware that the
entire universe is alive, and I loved the that she
included the cosmos. She included inanimate objects along with the insects,
the human beings, the birds. She helped me understand the
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gain that there isn't anything that I touch, youse think
about that isn't part of that larger universe that I
am interacting with, even when I don't recognize I'm interacting.
I loved all the words she used about unconditional love
that she was experiencing, that it was so blissful she
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could hardly even imagine returning to her body or to life,
and that she wanted to just stay and be in
the atmosphere and that energy forever. She also found herself
because there was no limits of time and space. Whatever
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she put her interest in, her focus in, she got
the whole panorama of everything that was involved. So gain this.
I saw this as another challenge for us in life
is to just maybe start even entertaining the thought that
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what limits am I actually putting on myself? Where are
my focuses so narrow that I can't see the big picture?
So everything that she said, I found myself just challenging. Okay,
how can I use this? And how different my life
would be when I understand the power of it all.
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So this is beyond just maybe or when the day
comes that we actually die. The challenge of this book
is what we can use so that in this lifetime
we're very, very different in how we approach. She definitely
is happy and grateful to reconnect with her family, but
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it's mixed with the sadness of leaving behind the amazing
beauty and freedom she calls it of the outer realm
She found herself when she was first back in consciousness,
that she wanted to cry about every little thing, and
she felt such a bond with everyone, and that's already
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been mentioned how she just felt love for the staff
that were there, for her family, for people that she
was thinking about at a distance. And then it was
so interesting the part when in chapter eight where it's
described all the different groups of people that were praying
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for her because she had had this varied growing up period.
The Hindu religion was represented and who was praying her mother,
the Buddhists, her friend was doing had organized a Buddhist
chanting group for to pray for her to heal. She
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had a Roman Catholic friend who organized a prayer group.
So this was not a common experience of life that
Anita is representing, but she is representing the importance of
all of that variation. So it was It's a very
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exciting book, every inch of the book, but these three
chapters were definitely interesting to work with this week.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
So appreciate your insights, Joyce. There is so much truth
and love that comes through these pages that she's sharing
with us. And my thought always is like you flip
it in yourself, can you see yourself as something greater
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and bigger than a body.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
And when she was.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Talking about her father and actually experience him, experience him
not as a body, not as a race, not as
a religion, none of these connotations we put on things
as physical. It seems that if we can shed all
of that and really just grasp that magnificence of who
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we are and the piece of divinity that we are,
Grandmother Parish is always telling us we are not a body,
and that we are so much greater, that we are divine,
that we are of the creator. And this is exactly
what's coming through these pages. So I was wondering. I
had a question for Marianne about, given that you are
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a clinical therapist and that you do see patients, do
any the patients that you ever work with, do they
ever come in and talk about a near death experience
or anything similar to this.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I don't think I've had anyone.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I can't recall off the top of my head anybody.
But sometimes when we do emdr processing that allows you
to tap into the subconscious, and from that place, people
can have all sorts of experiences like this, where they're
talking to loved ones or seeing themselves from a whole
different place of awareness, like a spiritual place of awareness,
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and from that spot can change how they think or
let go of perceptions that they had. So I think
we can tap this state. We don't have to die,
and there are many modalities that help us get beyond
our conscious logical mind.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Appreciate that a lot. Is there another another co host
who's ever run into something like this? I know that
you'd like to share or talk about. I know Joyce
has worked with hospice work and with patients with near
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coming to the terms of near death. Have you had
anything that has come present with you?
Speaker 7 (41:32):
I think what related to these three chapters that I
found myself picturing being right there? The time span over
everything that she's saying in three chapters actually is about
twelve hours initially until she does come back. And as
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you read through this, it sounds like it's a really
long story and all these things are happening. So I'm
finding myself recognizing the times when it seems like a
person has reached a point that there's no connection anymore
with the people that are at their bedside, and that
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there I definitely I'm going to be a whole lot
more aware of being sensitive to what they could be experiencing.
So I'm not just sure how that's going to exactly
come forth, but I know that it's given me a
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larger dimension of how I would like to be at
a person's bedside that seems to be taking hours and
hours and sometimes days to pass, but it's very obvious
that they are somewhere else than in their bodies. So
it's helpful to have read Anita's story here.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
I appreciate that I've kind of experienced, with the passing
of a couple loved ones that I've been around, that
experience of feeling like they're present and then feeling like
they're not present, and then the coming back and speaking
to me about things that they were seeing or things
that they were experiencing, And so it's to me, it's
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really fascinating for sure. Delaware, Do you have something you
would like to add that may not have been covered.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
I think it's that part that I haven't come across
anyone who's mentioned anything about near death or not. But
it's it's the description that she has, not of being
everywhere when you're not in a particular limited set of
saying here's my hands, here's this here's that. And again
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I'll take it back to nature, because there's certainly those
times when you can be outside and you might be
breathing just normal breathing in and out, and then noticing
the trees and then feeling that they're breathing out in
and out too, and then you sort of take it
to the next level. It's giving yourself those moments of
observing in nature and just being I can't say it's
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the same expansive because I haven't been there, but certainly
there are those little glimmers and moments where you feel
like you're breathing in and out with the trees, and
then you feel there's not that separation. And I've read
too when people talk about the meditating and that point
where where you're in it and then you come back
to a bit of four. I don't know where my
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hand stops. I can't feel that, I can't feel that
boundary between my arm and what's outside of me. So
I think it's important to remember that what's being described
here can be with us in the live state, and
there are particular tools and things that we can do
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to be more conscious aware of that expanded state in
our everyday life. And indeed at this conference they've been
talking about a lot of the studies in nature and
showing the science and the statistics behind it that there
are these elevated states decrease cortisol, the stress markers, and
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an increased ability to be creative, and increased ability to
come back and retain information. So all that's already there
are science. It's a little tiny piece of what she's
sharing about the magnificence of the post physical body state.
So my point would be to remember that we have
the opportunity to reach into some of this at any time,
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or all of this at any time. And if you're
wondering a good step, my personal suggestion is to have
more time in nature, especially with your shoes off.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
That's lovely, that's really wonderful, and it is true. I mean,
you can you can watch the trees breathe, you can
watch nature respond, and there's so much it can show
us that we just slow ourselves down a little bit
and pay attention to it. Steve, did you have any
other comments that you would like to make today, points
(46:16):
not covered in the book.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
I can see how this information and her experience could
help a lot of people who grew up in with
teachings of you know, the afterlife and you know, the
teachings of hell and that type of thing. And I
(46:39):
know that there are some people that have you know,
quite a bit of fear and issues themselves of you know,
accepting that you know, a god would throw you in
the lake of fire kind of thing books, and I
can be I can you know, take up. I know
(46:59):
with my father that took out a lot of his
mind mind space through his life, and so in mhm,
in this kind of experience or this kind of story,
if people could change their you know, I have this
data and be able to consider that it could really
(47:20):
relieve a lot of a lot of the stress and
a lot of the you know, the the anxiety that
people have with what's what's going to happen? It would
you know, it gives people a different perspective if they
choose to accept it. Because I know that when my
father was was first taught of hell and that they
(47:42):
there was nobody in his he knew of no other teaching.
He knew of everyone that he knew in his circle
of influence believed you know, in that in that one
way of thinking. And so to know, I know that
when he realized there were people that thought differently, it
was a huge help to him because he realized he
(48:06):
wasn't alone and it really helped this could and I'm
sure it is being very helpful to people who are
going through that, and he'll leave a lot relieve a
lot of that stress. Just an insight I wanted to share.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yes, Grandmother Parrisha has actually said more than once on
this show, you know, buy this book and give it
to people.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
Give it to people.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Who are experiencing a loved one dying, Give it to
someone who actually is going through some disease themselves. Because
further in the book, we get to learn a little
bit more about what she learned about healing herself, and
that's going to be coming up in some of the
you know, next chapters, and that's one of the blessings
(48:55):
of this book. I know, for me personally, my husband
and partner has had three near death experiences and I've
been around for all of them, and we are connected
with a lot of people, some of them who actually
know Anita and Morjianny personally, I've never met her, but
(49:17):
there are groups and conferences where the people get together
and they talk about their experiences, and I know from
what my husband has relayed was the choice that he
was given a choice, the experience of knowing everything that
was going on around him, even though he wasn't coherent
(49:40):
and couldn't speak to people, wanting to let them know
that he was okay, but not being able to connect
with them at all, and actually actually kind of walking
through some big AHAs for him and I myself during
one of those, had an experience of being completely enveloped
(50:03):
in the love when I just let go. I had
been told that he was not going to be, that
he wasn't going to make it, and to start preparing
for it, and just hitting a place of kind of
praying and asking and going through all of those things
of shock and anger and all those different mourning type
(50:28):
experiences and finally having an AHA moment of just letting
go that it wasn't me, it wasn't up to me
to make a choice, it was up to him. And
when I hit that place, this amount of love flooded
over me that I had never felt before in my
whole life. And that experience I can go back to,
(50:52):
and so I can completely relate to Anita's experience of
saying things are never the same. After you've had these experiences,
things are completely different. You see things differently, and that
experience of complete love, I just knew clearly that everything
(51:15):
was perfect, everything was going to be just fine. And
went to the hospital and kissed him goodbye and said,
it's your choice, everything will be good. Stay for yourself,
not me or anyone else, and went home. And after
that he turned around a couple hours later and did
(51:36):
come back. And so I've tried to get him to
a share his story too. Maybe after this book, maybe
after these experiences he will he'll want to share more too.
But she also said this was personal to her and
sharing with people people didn't necessarily believe her or just thought, wow,
that's crazy, how did you know that? So for me,
(51:59):
there's a deep to this and really loving the fact
that she expressed it so incredibly beautifully. And so for me,
there's a lot of truth in this book from my
understandings of things, and so I just wanted to share
that little bit from my perspective. But we have a
(52:22):
couple more minutes, and so do the other co hosts
have anything that they would like to add. I see
Joyce would like to add something.
Speaker 7 (52:33):
I already did mention. This one point that impacted me
was and her exact words were, that everything in the universe,
everything that's alive, every human, every animal, plant, insect, mountain, see,
inanimate object, and cosmos we are connected with. So this
(52:58):
is the most expansive life of connection that I could
ever imagine. Now, the other side of this connection is
that we influence all of that. So if there's any
challenge to take on at the beginning of every day,
when your eyes open, just keep in mind we are
(53:19):
influencing all of that list.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
That's lovely. And can you imagine if you just embrace
that and closed your eyes and imagined yourself being that
connected to everything, just doing little exercises like that, how
it could make you feel every day. It just it's like,
oh my gosh, your heart just opens. Thank you so
(53:47):
much for sharing that. Does another co host have something
that they'd like to share?
Speaker 4 (53:55):
This is mari Anne from Melbourn. I feel like this.
We could practice this by practicing and going into the nothingness.
Grandmother teaches us how important some of these meditation practices
actually are, and her Anita's experience really highlights why. Like
going into the nothingness is turning off all the neural networks,
(54:17):
all the belief systems, all the focus on body sensation
and experiencing ourselves beyond logical and developing that neural network
for that. And so it isn't something we all have
to wait to die to experience. I don't believe. I
think we can cultivate it.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
Absolutely. And that's the point I think that Grandmother Perishes
brought up before too, is that we don't have to
die to experience this. We can take time in our
lives and the practices like the meditations and going into
nothingness is a way one of the ways that we
can begin to experience this in our own life and
(55:01):
figure out find out experience how truly magnificent we are
and what we're capable of doing. Any comment from you, Aloe.
Speaker 5 (55:14):
I was really just smiling with joyces as well. It's
again from Grandmother paraschat to before opening the eyes to
stay today, I know and see a thousand beautiful things,
and my hands hold one hundred sacred objects, and as
I look around, I see great beauty in all I see.
(55:37):
So I think that helps us rewire those neurons we've
told them what to see become aware of seeing that
and we also create that by being aware.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
Beautiful. It's embracing the gift that we have in the physicality.
That is just amazing. And Steve, do you have anything
you'd like to add.
Speaker 6 (56:05):
I'm just enjoying the you know, the insights and being
able to change some things inside myself on you know,
my view of in knowing this kind of kind of
takes some I don't know whether it is maybe pressure
or anxiety out of my own thoughts as knowing that,
(56:28):
you know, whatever happens here, it's all going to be good.
Not like you know, it's it's kind of a kind
of a relaxing concept, you know, when when you have
other voices saying, you know, oh, you're going to be
doomed if this happens, or if that, if you don't,
you know, do this. There's so many different opinions, but
just to know, you know, at the end, it's it's
(56:49):
all going to be good and you're going to be accepted,
you know, back into that all loving you know, presence
and just know, you know, merge with the consciousness of
everything and and understand you know that you know, enter
into those consciousness, the consciousness that she that she talks
about and like Marianne was saying, it's it's something that
(57:11):
we can do now. It's not like we have to wait.
We just have to you know. And I think a
step in that is is understanding and taking to ourselves
these realities that it is like that, and being able
to be more more free and not so afraid of
every mistake and every misstep. So great, great information.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
I just think it's beautiful and that if we take
this to heart and we really look at ourselves, at
who we are, and that while we're here in our bodies,
we're here to experience and learn and love more than anything,
to bring that love forward. It's just she gave us
so many things. I would so encourage everyone to get
(57:57):
this book and it called Dying to Be me Anita
more Johnny, and really take in these chapters because there's
so much depth in them. So it's about time that
we conclude our studies today, and we really want to
thank you all for sharing your time and energy with us,
because truly, like you've heard here, you matter and you count,
(58:22):
and you're here to make a difference. You're here to
be authentic and to be you and share yourself and
really truly make a difference. So we look forward to
being with having you be with us next week as
we make that leap to greater consciousness. So have a
really powerful week and allow your light to shine and
(58:43):
always all good things to you.
Speaker 4 (58:45):
Oh see.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Thank you for listening to Quantum Leak book Club. For
more information where you can contact us, go to Layradio
network dot com, forward slash quantum hyphen leap. Have a
great week.
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