Bobby, his fiancé Caitlin and artist manager Tom Lord sit down in their current living situation in Los Angeles to give their Top 5 songs of the year! Bobby catches up with Tenille Arts (who stopped by the house last year) to talk about the success of her latest single hitting Top 20, her new Christmas song and how her parents get to hear her on the radio in Canada. Plus the best new music releases of the week!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to episode to seventy four The Bobby Cast from California,
where it is almost ten am here. We took the
day off of the morning show today. I had a
late night at American Idol last night, about to head
back over today and tomorrow, So in between a lot
of American Idol taping, I'm recording this for you. So
if I sound exhausted, it's because I am. And we'll
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get into some fun segments. We'll check up with tennil
arts check in catch up, I guess check ups a
tired way of combining the two words. You know. Last
time I had her on, we did a long form
interview with her for about an hour. She performed at
the house. But now she has the top twenty songs,
we'll talk to her by that. We will also bring
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back Tom Lord, my manager who did an episode a
few back, Caitlyn, my fiance, and myself. We'll do our
top five songs. Each of us are picking our top
five songs, regardless of genre that's on the way, and
obviously what we get to first every week is the
best new music releases of the week. So here we go.
Twenty one. Pilots has a new song called Christmas Saves
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the year. I thought it was an interesting Christmas song.
Here you go, Everybody's got somebodies got their name on
the show with Chame the Corn and Slave and cheer
you rest the short Christmas Saves at number four, sing
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Me Back Home the music of Merle Haggard, Keith Richards,
when the Rolling Stones is on there, Cheryl Crowe, the
Abet Brothers, listen to Williams. Derek Spendley is on it
and this is him doing if we make it through December.
You got lit off down at the Factory and their Time.
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At number three. This week, Eric Church has a new
song called do in Life with Me. I don't pray
much anymore. It's all true littleles, happenness, wishes, Polson, dates
in my rooms, horse and drinks in my living, getting thanks,
bull ships out, never sang every every little in everyday thinks,
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the notes and words and the songs. I sang to
the wongs doing Live with Me. At number two, Taylor
dropped an entire album called Evermore. It was a surprise album,
her ninth studio album. She said it's the sister album
to Folklore. Here's a new song called Willow, which is
the first song on the album Knife was to Win
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They Killed Me Out time and time again, Life and
the number one song you should check out this week
gets from Casey Musgraves. She has a new song called
Easy featuring Troice, Vonna Mark ronson have you See She
Still sweet Is and I'll do one honorable mention. Gwen
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Stefani has a new song out called let Me Reintroduce
Myself and here is That. Some albums out today. Britney
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Spears has Glory Deluxe. Star Jill Simpson has Cutting Grass
Volume two The butcher Shop Sessions. It's twenty of his
original songs but reimagined in blue grass form. The Avalanches
have a record, Chance the Rapper a Merry Christmas, Little Mom,
and Rewrapped Deft Tones, Less than Jake Oliver Tree not You.
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New music out this week up amusing news. Bob Dylan
sold his entire song catalog to Universal Media for three
hundred million dollars. There are a lot of those songs
you probably don't even know that Bob Dylan wrote to
begin with, or that was him singing on the TV commercial.
Dolly Parton plots a stadium tour as part of Dolly
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Fest One. You know Dolly is kind of having a
fifth or sixth reinvention. She's like the the st Dolly.
Now she's saving kids lives. She saved two kids live
on the night Netflix movie Say you see that? Yeah,
she's pulled him from a car. Farbs on the list.
She's amazing Dolly Parton. As you can tell, Mike's also tired.
To celebrate her seventy five birthday, there is Dolly Fest
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and fifteen stadiums worldwide, as long as she can have
the shows without coronavirus, which is kind of what everybody's
hoping to do. She was invited to perform with Katy
Perry during the Super Bowl back in the day, but
Katy Perry couldn't, but Dolly couldn't because her husband was
said yeah, so Dolly Parton was invited to perform at
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the super Bowl, but because she had a sick husband,
she said no. Kaylee Hammock is collaborating with Art Alexis
from Ever Clear for a fiery rendition of his band
smash Hit. I will buy you a New life. Here
you go, I will buy you, We'll bay you, I
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will bake house West, I will bayue. It sounds like
all already ain't even singing there, he's trying. I saw
him perform because I was a massive ever Clear fan
in college. I saw him perform about two years ago
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here in town, and it was tough. You really couldn't
do much other than stay right here in this ring
right there. Yeah. I loved ever Claire. Though. The Bobby
BoNT Show raises two point to five million dollars for
St Jude. We appreciate you. You all become a partners
and hope Chris Stapleton played the two day Radio thon
Radio thone. Here's a clip of I hope you dance?
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Who have you dit? Dan and Shayer eight years old.
They've been making music together for eight years. Congratulations to
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those guys a big anniversary. Obviously they're just killing it
right now. Mariah Carey splurged to create her magical Christmas
special for Apple TV Plus. She spent over five million
bucks on sets, costumes, and guest stars, which include Arianna,
Jennifer Hudson, Billie Agner, and Snoop Dogg. Also, Cardi Ba
claimed she spent a hundred thousand dollars just for rapid
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COVID testing for cast and crew to make the Watt
music video. I don't know how people are mad about that.
If she has it, it makes everybody say great Radio Disney.
Radio Disney Country is gonna close, which stinks. Have a
lot of friends over there, but they will, you know,
stop operating a radio Disney. And I hit you with
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one more post. Malone gave everyone at his old high
school a pair of crocs a grape Vine Gray Vine
High School student body nine. You all get crocs, you
get a croc. You get a croc. You get a croc.
He worked at Chicken Express there back in the day.
What do you mean that's where he worked as a teenager,
just in the town. Cool? Got it? All right, that's it.
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Enjoy today's podcast. I know we did goodbye. Right now.
We are in the living room in our airbnb in
Los Angeles, and tomorrow we start American Idol. So we're
all gathered around the old microphone here. First, let me
introduce Kitlin, my fiance. Hello, thank you. Also, let me
introduce Tom Lord, my manager. You probably remember me from
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the previous podcast I did, and I want to thank
you for all the comments and letters. Um, I will
be one person. There was one person, well yeah, but
I needed d M them back, Thank you so much
and obviously me what we're gonna do because the year
in less all come out, We're one after the other.
It's the best, this the best at So what we're
gonna do is go around the room and do our
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top five songs from just straight up top five songs.
There was no genre that had to be you know, defined,
or we didn't have to, you know, pick any sort
of music. And so we'll go first with Tom Lord.
You know first, this was a really tough one for me.
I gotta be honest with you going through it, and
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I like Caitlin is looking at your songs going, what
the well she has? She does that bad tasting songs? Well,
I'm a bit obscure, no, honestly, I you know, it
was a weird year listening to music. It was at
my house mostly and just kind of went with my
same song, so, um one, well the first song on
my list? What are we doing? Five to one? Are
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we just naming five songs just so it could be
any song? There's no or let's keep going around the room. Yeah,
go ahead, So I was gonna do my first song.
Oh we're going one at a time, Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, yeah,
and I want to and we want to hear whine, right, Bubby? Sure,
go ahead? All right. My first song is Time Stands
by Nathaniel ray Lift. Let me hear this here is
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you showed me this song. It's so good. I once
ran into him at a radio station in Colorado. He's
a Colorado guy, I believe, and I was maybe Mike
and I were together, or maybe I was just there
touring We're about to go on the other and I
saw this guy, chubby guy, but I knew, I knew
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what he looked like. And I was like, that's Nathaniel
right left for Naniel in the night Sweats is what
I know I'm from. That's right, yeh. I was like,
I think that's him. He fits everything, Like if someone
were to be like that, it's a nerdy guy, that'd
be me. And I was like, hey man, big fan.
And he almost seemed shocked that I knew who he was. Well,
when you're kind of a chubby guy walk around a lot,
not a lot of people stop you. I guess I
know that feeling. I can't confer. I didn't mean that
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a bad way. I was blend in like an octopus.
You change your shape with color to blend in with
your involuate menant. Alright, Kaylen, you're up. Okay, we're not
doing our We're not doing any order anyone you want. Okay,
my number one favorite song this year is if You're
gonna do it that way, save one for last, you
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know what I mean? Like you don't favorite songs and
no particular order is holy by Justin Bieber and Chance
the Rapper pun into the other can. That's the jam
it is. And I was convinced. It took me a second.
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She was like, I love this song. But I've become
a big Justin Bieber fan in the past year because
of her and me watching things that I didn't associate
with my thought of Justin Bieber, because we do have
a perception of Justin Bieber based on what we see
on the very surface, from every one of the tabloids,
from every one of the websites that want us to
click in. But then once we start watching the YouTube
series and her, you know, being around that crew a
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bit at church, and it was I was like, Oh,
I think I could like this guy. He has convinced
me to not that I didn't want to like him.
But I think the same thing. If you're not diving
into someone's music, you're only opinion is based on external
influence until you get into like I when I had
oddly enough, when I got into Justin Bieber's when I
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had my first child and we were watched the same
animated shows over and over again, and it was one days,
let's watch something different. And I got fed his documentary,
his first one that he put out, and I thought, well,
this would be interesting and this that kid was talented,
still is talented, but just the way he was busting
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in Canada and this, I mean his his his determination
and touring and even independently releasing his music like I
was sold. And I gotta tell you, I almost put
that song on my list. It was it was an edge.
The video is great too, like he's working. Uh, he's
like an iron worker and an oil field and he
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loses his job. Yeah, it's really good. She said that
Justin would also sing at church, just get up and sing. Yeah,
he would lead worship at church. Sometimes see against things
you don't know about, things that made you go well,
I was supposed. I never saw that on the internet. Yeah,
I was like, who was gonna pull out their phone
and record that. I never saw it. Yeah, And I
just love that song because he it's like new justin.
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He's like, I'm very strong of my faith. These are
the two most important things to me, God and my wife,
and I'm putting that all out there in this song.
Fine fact he had Holy that Florida Georgia Line ended
up cutting. That was his song and he gave it up.
He cut it, and it was like, I don't want
to put on a record. Then Florida Georgia Line got
a second and they have Holy. Yeah, that's not true,
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is it really? That was a Beaver song that is
so interesting. And if you put that one, I probably
couldn't put this one out because that have been like
it's like John Party putting out another boot song. He's
done too though he could do three once you factor.
My first song is going to be from the Chris
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Stapleton record, The New One, And I would compare this
song to when I watched the movie Her or when
I watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I only
need to watch it one time. This christ Apleton song,
Maggie song about his dog that died. It pops up,
but I never go chase it because it makes me
too sad. So but the first time I heard it,
I was emotional because I had a dog for fifteen
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sixteen years that I just love more than anything, and
now I have a new dog where you know that
the same feeling is starting to happen. But I heard
this song, this is Maggie's song on christapele dion'snew record,
Were the h I was talking to him a few
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days ago and asked him, Hey, which song was asked Morrigan,
his wife, and what was the most emotional song for
Chris to record? Because Chris doesn't talk a lot, but
I knew if I could, and I know Morgan a
little bit, and I was like, Morgan, you tell me.
But when Morgan starts talking, Chris lights up. So then
they started talking amongst each other and to me, and
he started talking about this song and he said that
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this is the one that he cried through and you
can hear him crying in the last verse of the song,
like you can literally hear him crying in the recording
of this. And he said it was so hard for
him to sing about it in a day, recorded it
later down cry to the back end of it. I don't.
I just feel like there's something in the way he
delivers songs to you. Just listen to it with a
little more emotion, like with Whisky and You from the
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song the album Traveler, same thing. I just sit there
and listen to it and it's like I feel it,
and I think with this one, I feel the same way.
It's just how he does it. Like if another artist
saying it, would it have the same impact. I don't know.
It's just the way he sings that that feels so real.
Whiskey and You was a phenomenal song. He's sang that
at our Raging Idiots Ryman show. He came out and
played with this and he did. That's a difference he
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didn't Whiskey see the when we sing it together. First
of all, it sounds great, but it does sound different
because you have to bear in the same room. Yeah, alright, Tom,
you're up. Give us another song we've never heard everyone
ever hear of again? Go ahead? Well no, well, actually
I want to stay on theme that. I wasn't gonna
go there necessarily, but um staying with Chris Stapleton because
this new record diving into that, I mean there's so many.
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I think starting overs great, but that is not my
Christapon song that's on my consolation list, which I do have,
which I'm not sure we'll have. Tom sound like thirty
songs over well, I did. I said, I was trying
to rank them a little bit in different genres. Send
me five songs all genre. He sent me the five,
then he sent me the backup team of five. Then
he sent me his all country version, and then he
sent me he just picked at random, and it's what
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popped up in on Spotify. That's it the recommends. I
just go to the randomly pick No. So staying with
Chris Stapleton from the new record, you should probably leave you.
You know me, what this song reminds me of is
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seeing christ and concert because I've seen him play this
a couple of times already before the record came out.
I said to him, I said, hey, this should be
your next radio song, and he was like, well, first
of all, you know, he doesn't care which song gets
picked for radio, and you can you know, like for him,
it's like if he puts it on his record, he
believes in the song, and so it's it's not he
doesn't sit there and dictate what songs shooters shouldn't be
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played at radio. He kind of leaves that to other
people who that's their job. But this one, I'm with you.
I've first I've heard this scient and on this record,
but it has been living in the Chris Stapleton ecosystem
for a while and he plays it out. It's kind
of a fan favorite, and I just was so happy
he put it on this record, and it's the show
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stopper to me. I believe he recorded it years ago,
recorded it and just hadn't put it on a record
yet because that could be He went down to Muscle
Shoals and recorded and they lost all power while they
were recording, and they were like, well, we can't keep
recording because everything shut down. You know that story. Well,
he talked about it. He should look to my show.
It's pretty good. I don't get up that early in COVID.
You sleep in Kaitlin. What's next? Um My next song
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in no particular order is Adore You by Harry Styles.
In the same way that we were talking about Bieber,
I feel the same about Harry Styles and that I
just know him as the gooper from one direction. And
you know how real can they be? However, once you
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really start to listen to this guy, you go, oh, man,
we shouldn't hold that against him. Yeah, if you take
one direction out of it, you'd love him. If he
were just marketed as a rock artist, like an alternative
artist that had him been in a boy band, I
think he would be a massive alternative success. You know,
they probably not put some of these super love ballads
on there, but he has rock stuff. The texture of
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those songs sounds like it would easily be an alternative song.
What he has done for me, and he has a
um a positive reaction, maybe as negative to me, a
very positive reaction to my wife, who loves Harry Style.
So I get a lot of Harry Styles in my household,
and my other one has got a whisper jo named
Keith Urban. I just remember when this song came out,
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I was just like, h not feel like that's Caitlin
in my mind, and I still feel that way. Thank you,
You're welcome. You just had a post on your socials
that sort of like completely put your heart out there too.
Would you say I breathe for people? What was that?
It was her? She took a sofie on my phone. Yeah,
that wasn't me, by the way, and the post those
words hold on, hold on. That was all a joke
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that a lot of people didn't get, which means it
wasn't a good joke. So anytime she gets my phone,
she takes a selfie of herself. So I posted that
picture of her taking a selfie herself and then wrote
any something that she would write from my voice got it.
I guess it was a little too high brow for
the common folk out there. I always think a picture
of this phone because I always have to hold his
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phone whether he's doing breaking body bones or whatever. So
I would just take a picture like, here's this behind
the scenes of me with a mask on, sitting staring
at you do your thing, so we can have a
nice compilation at the end of the season. And so
I did that. So the sincerity that I read into
it that it doesn't even really exist, and it was
the jokes didn't mean. The joke was if she were
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posting that what you look like, that's what she would
write for me to say about her. People about you're
just saying everyone did Yeah, yeah, I mean it. I
didn't mean it, but I got a lot of people
that like, that's so sweet of you that I don't
like doesn't know how to get this failed attempted at
a Instagram joke. I think people just think you feel
that way about me. I did, I do too, Yeah,
and then God whispered your name and everything change all right?
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Next time? Well taking a real left turn? Sweet? Oh anyway,
So well, well, this is definitely not that sort of
love story. Um. But American Aquarium, which is a band
that I've loved over the last several years, put out
a record called Lamentations this year and I love it
top to bottom. But there's a song on there that
haven't having been married for now twenty two years, you know,
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I know that sacred relationship between a husband and wife
and telling the truth. And it's interesting that we've had
um a lot of our friends that have been married
and then get divorced, and you can just see it's
sad to see how some of those relationships dissolve, and
I think this speaks to how that might happen. It's
a song called the Day I Learned to Lie to You. Yes,
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my biggest great life thing that keeps me up a
night lot. Are you doing okay? But because We've had
a few songs here. You like to feel, I like
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to feel it's interesting. I think I live in a
very utopian life like I it's it's pretty polly in
and in the Lord's house. Like I love my wife.
We've been married for a long time and we have
two beautiful children. But music is one of my escape
and I lived through different songs. And um, there's a
song Jason Isbel has called traveling Alone and I'll just
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love and I'll sit there and cry with that. Or
it's adele um what was their big blank A long time? No? No,
but yes, someone like you you that I'll just listen to.
And I'm like, I put myself in their movie, and um,
and it just makes me feel something. This one just
makes me feel something, and you know, it's outside of
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my reality. But that's why I go to music. It's
what I love music. I mean, all my favorite songs
just slow, sad songs. Yeah they see, I mean except
for the few now that remind me of her. They're
all like blue eyes crying in the rain. Well, and
I was like, Maggie song, ain't no sunshine, Maggie song,
It's God. That's the only way to get me because
I don't feel happiness. I've started a little bit. I
don't feel I do now. Your therapy, she just told
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me in the car ride back from Malibu. She's like,
we're teaching you new things. Joy No, I said it,
you know, I said before. It feels like from the
stories I've heard from others and from yourself, that you
struggled to feel happiness enjoy at one point in your life.
But now I don't feel that that's the case. I
think you're happy all the time. And then God whispered
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you the day I learned how a lot of you
so good, so good encourage people to listen to it.
It's so American Aquarium, right, Okay, there you go, Caitlin. Okay,
my next song is Seven Summers by Morgan Wallen. The
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funny thing about this is so once Morrigan had his trouble,
he went away for a bit. He came back and
he was only going to talk to one person, and
I got lucky that was me. So he came over
to the house and I said, hey, Caitlin, Morgan Wallace
coming overcau She loved Morgan Walling. She's like, well, I'm
gonna go go out and what did you go do
you guys like did We went to watch Stas Shiro
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play in her championship soccer game, which was pretty important
Amy's daughter, and I was like, hey, but hurry back
to Morgan and she didn't give a crap about any
sort of celebrity but so that she didn't come back.
But what happened was Morrigan walked over to the main
house and sat on the piano and played in the
living room and she was like, oh, man, can get
him to stay And I was like, he's already gone.
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That was really cool. I didn't see that that was
that was cool. What's funny for me? I wanted to
put and it's now two years old because I was
trying to find a loophole now, just to be clear,
on my list, these aren't songs that just got popular
in and they had to have come out in so
I was trying to be really cautious that because I
think still for me, heavy Rotation is Whiskey Glasses. You
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for me say that before, like, I still love that
song and I'd probably put that as a top five
listened to country song for me this year, even though
it's now a year and a half older longer. Yeah,
and I would say even on because I'm gonna play mine,
which is Chasing You. That was a single, it has
been out, but if it's been sitting on a record,
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I guess for me, my loophole was when was it
released as a single? And this song was released as
a single. But here's my third one, chasing you this? Uh.
I was never a Morgan Walling guy. And I told
him this, like, I just thought, alright, he's Florida Georgia
Line's buddy. He's just you know, they are. They're known
for just kind of having fun. And I was like,
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you know, do we need another having fun guy? Unfairly
judged him, But I hit that song up down right
with Florida Georgia Line unfairly judged him. And so he
starts to put out a couple of songs and I'm like, okay.
I had friends who are passionate Morgan Walling fans before
he blew up. I went to a show because there
were a bunch of iHeart people there during a radio ceremony,
radio convention. It was packed at Marathon Music work, and
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I'm like, what what am I missing about this guy?
So I invited him out to the studio and he
played Chasing You during the same Jude Radio thon last year,
and I was like, oh my god, he's so good.
Like he not only does he have good songs now,
but he has an extremely distinct voice when he talks
and when he sings difficult to have. Um so yeah,
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and I told him I'm now a big Morgan Walling guy.
But I wasn't at first, and I was wrong. I'm
similar to me. I think we all get a little jaded.
I've worked in this industry for a long time, so
when a new newcomer hits the scene, you're like, Okay,
it's got one song, or I see it Florida, Georgia,
line up down and you see, Okay, that's how they're
getting an audience. But he has consistently done it more
than my hometown is great. Love that song and you
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know the songs you guys added to your list? Where
would you put his ascent up there? Because listen, we've
never seen anything like Luke holmbs but this late Morgan Wallen,
extremely strong push is something that I haven't seen a
lot either me neither. But you know, I don't know
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that we would have known it You know, there may
have been a similar sort of swell for artists, but
we didn't see it as quick because we're seeing it
now real time with streaming. You know, before we can
see with album sales, and album sales would do well.
But now you're seeing real time all these Morgan songs
from the first record to this record dominating the chartie
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and Luke Holmes dominating the chart in that way. I'm
with you on that, Luke Hombs and and now Morgan
Wallen are are they in the same category to you
right now? I give Luke still ledge on that. But
Luke or excuse me, um, Morgan is quickly on his heels, yeah,
quicker than I would have imagined. And Luke Holmbs now
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is think I only been around a few years, but
he's now like the guy. And Morgan Wallen's like the
new cooler guy, which isn't fair because that just popped
up on the He's crushing it. But I'm starting to
see people now who do you which one do you
like better like? And matching them against each other, like
are you a Morgan Wallen guy or a Luke Holmes guy? Oh? See,
(27:37):
you know you can't. I don't even put him in
that the same category that way, so um, nor do
you have to know, but you know, and I just
hope and I'm glad we're talking about him because I
don't know that the industry has given him the respect.
I don't know that he's helped himself in some cases,
but I don't think you know. And I saw it
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like with Grammy nominations, Morgan Wallan, I think deserved to
Amy nomination maybe for Best New Artists or Singular Song,
and didn't get one. And you know, maybe it just
wasn't his year for that for whatever reason. But I
hope the industry recognizes that, like we talked about before,
like we talked about with Florida George, and there are
some artists that they the industry just doesn't quite lift up. Um.
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I would say that was the Dan and Shay thing
for a long time until they just kicked the door
down with so much data that if you ignored them,
it was obvious you were only ignoring them because you
didn't like their their style. Yep. And I listen, I
have a I'm in a similar plight to work with
Gabby Barrett, and I feel like that's the same for her,
Like I think everybody's going, Okay, she has one song
and they're not totally seeing the whole ecosystem. And in
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the fuller reaction that she's getting as a whole, is
that our truck getting broken into? Right now? I lovely
brak can she's getting after? Oh oh so they got it? Yeah, alright,
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that's fun. Leave that in. Um, Kayla in your next
song that was a tom so you did um chasing you? Yeah?
I did. There's there. We're all three in all three
in okay. Um another just as is a Lord Household favorite.
I'm doing Yep, I'm doing Macareno. Is that too old? Um?
Moon Taxi light up? What are these guys about? Because
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I hear their name, But what's moon Taxi about? Who
are they there? Nashville band? Now? Um, but they have quietly,
Um they're sort of based out of Birmingham, Alabama, Nashville
Band and have just slowly, and I think a little
bit quietly, built a really big following. Like my wife
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and I went and saw him New Year's Eve at
Municipal Auditorium a couple of years ago. UM to a
sold out show there, and um, there's something about them.
They consistently make great music. And my wife, who's been
a fan of theirs for a number of years now,
I'll say this is her influence on my list because
she loves them so much that like I said, it's
in heavy rotation. So there is a newer song, but
they have songs like Morocco that I love. I mean,
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you go back, I say similar like I did with
American Aquarium. They've just American Aquarium has a great CATALOGUS songs,
as did Moon Taxi, but they've never had that big, major,
major label break. Are they on a major label and
are they a rock band? They were on a major label,
now they're off the major label and they're a rock band.
I would say they have the potential. This is me
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again biased, but I look at a band like Imagined Dragons,
who has a great energy on stage, you know, poppies
kind of rock songs, um, and I look at these
guys and I go, man, these guys could be and
imagine Dragons. I think it's really catchy songs, great energy
on stage, hugely talent and what I'm a melody guy,
and so they just there's so much melody either music. Um,
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I'm a fan Kitlyn. What you're doing over there, look
him up. I'm looking at your turn. What's your turn? No? No, no,
My My next favorite song of is I was trying
to figure off it's Levitate or Levitating. I think it's
Levitate by Doulipata Go. Just so everybody knows, Caitlyn grabs
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my ear because to rib my headphone off, it goes
very violently, like very violently. He's back into the microphone.
I don't have headphones, so I can't hear my song.
You do love I love you are a pop music fan,
your pop this is coming through well in country. Yeah,
she's like pop. I used to be all country, I
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mean really probably until the last Like five is year's
favorite country song of all time. You're the reason Got
made Oklahoma. You're the reason God made Oklahoma. I think
man's Amarella by morning. I will always love you blue
eyes crying in the rain or if tomorrow never comes?
Oh good? Yeah? Did you ever meet the Aliba where
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around town? Nice? All right, Matt Carney, Grand Canyon Mine.
Fun fact, This song came out the week before we
went to the Grand Canyon to shoot my Natgio show,
and we sing it the whole time. There you go
the alpun was that and that quickly made it to
the top of your list, didn't it. Well. I needed
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to put a homage to Matt Carney in there because
he's our guy. Yeah right, he's our guy. And I
like this song. Give you another one, alright? Mine is
mount Joy Strangers. So are we five for five on
not knowing any of Tom's artists? No, I guess you
know Stapleton. I've known a few because you let me
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listen to them. Yeah, yeah, it turns up. Say this again,
Mount Joy Strangers, Mount Joy. Okay, it's so indie, so good.
You're such an indie guy. Man. I grew listen. I
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grew up in uh in an arrow. I listened to
you know, just everything, and I played in kind of
indie rock bands and I love the Pixies and um,
Pavement and Unrest and the Police, and then I like
hair metal. I'm all over the place. Yeah, I'm like
an enigma wrapped in a mystery. Once we did a
show Caitlin where we were like, let's pull a drummer
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from the crowd who knows how to play the drums?
And it was Tom. We set it up and he played.
He did good because he used to play drums, and
then people were what is your name was Reggie? And
people were talking to you all after the show, like
Reggie did a great job. I'm leaving the show that
night walking in the back alley after the rhyme, and
there were people lined him. They were like, it's Reggie,
you did so great. Now you're blowing my cover, Caitlin,
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your final song. My final song is I should probably
go to bed, Dan and Shay, I should probably go
to bed. So, I don't know, what do you like
about that song? Everything nice? What do I like? Um? Like,
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why is it on your list? It's just so interesting
to me. I like that it sounds a little bit
like Queen. I love Abby Smiers and Dan Smiers was
her husband. I just like the song. I like everything
they do, but I love this. It's just so I
think it's so unique. My final song is Brett Eldridge
This is Fall for Me, which this is my favorite
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album he's ever put out. Maybe not, it doesn't have
a monster on it yet from the radio. I know
Gabrielle still trying. But as far as like music that
I would listen to all the time, like this was
a home run and I know for him this is
I think that most he like putting out a record
because I think these were writing right down his lane,
to write down his alley, to to write them and
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sing them and record them. So there you go. I
think part of the reason my list is it's what
I almost had a list that was fully songs from
Yellowstone because I got so engrossed in yellow Stone, so
I tried to diversify from that, and then I kept
peppering some in. But um, I love that song from
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Dan and Jay that is that for me, is a
top five country song. I didn't put songs on the
people that I directly work with because I felt biased.
Oh yeah, you could have put Gabby because I could
have put in raging idiots, but but the raging it's not.
Must stay the good ones with her jam. I told
you that is my jam. Well, and when I look
at my most played songs, it's I've got Chris Jansen
and Gabby Barrett and you know some other artists that
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I work with, and so I tried to do a
list without him. But Dan and Shay Um on my
country list, I'm just jumping into it. I do have
Chris Stapleton's hard to forget Sam Hunt. I'm surprised that's
not on our list. That's Sam record too. I missed
it when it came around the first time when he
put it out because we're writing a peak early coronavirus.
But then once I just kind of sat on it
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for a few days in a row. Every song is
fantastic on the record. Yeah, it's a great record. Um. Oh,
he's going down his list that he made it. Well,
you know, I should probably go to bed. It's on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I made the list. Um at number twenty three to
count down down? Right? Now, what are we gonna talk about? Movies?
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We just had a half hour that hour. Yeah, well,
thank you. Let me thank my guest, Tom Lord, thank you,
Thank for me, Caitlin, Thank you for having me and me,
Thank me for having me all right, thank you. Hey,
good to talk to you. How are you. I'm doing
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pretty well. How are you? You know? I wanted to
check in with you. It's been a while since we've talked,
and look at you, your songs crushing it. Now You've
got your first ever top twenty here in America. How
cool is that? It's so crazy? I literally am like,
I just keep refreshing the charts like this is this real?
You know, I say in America, because I think you
have a top ten in Canada right now to write
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same song I do. We had a top ten with
Somebody like That up in Canada, and now we have
another single out up there called Everybody Knows Everybody's top
ten as well. Okay, Bragger, we get it. You're killing it,
all right, we get it. Let me play a couple
of clips here. Let's see. Let's play a clip of
Somebody like That, the song that's burning up the charts.
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Here you go. So, you know, I got to ask, Yeah,
how awesome slash frustrating is it to watch that song
climb in a year where you can't even go out
to play it? Yeah? I mean, I think it's pretty
It's difficult to sit here and be like, oh, I
can't be out on the road and everything. But I
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think as soon as I do get back out on
the road, having this song having so much more success
than you know, it would have had if we were
out on the road this year. Um, I just think
it's going to be so awesome to step out on
stage for the first time and have people know this
song from the radio. It's going to be crazy. So
do you go back to Canada for Christmas? Or do
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you stay in Tennessee. So I'm planning on going back
to Canada, but I have to leave, um fifteen days
before Christmas to be able to see family, because I
have to quarantine for fourteen days. So you go over
in what do you just hop in a hotel room? Um?
I think I'm gonna hopefully stay in my mom's basement,
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just try to distance away from her and um, hopefully
keep it safe that way, because I really don't have
anywhere else to go, and I think staying in a
hotel in my hometown would be I might go a
little crazy if I had to do that, and also
really expensive. I have a friend who went to Australia
who's an artist, and she went for Christmas and she
had to stay in a hotel for fifteen days, and
she did. She stayed there the whole time, and by
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about day nine she was going absolutely berserk. Oh I
wouldn't I wouldn't make it. I swear I would go crazy.
I mean, I guess at least back home I would
be able to like go outside and stuff but I
don't know the Your song has been on the charts
for over thirty weeks. You know, you're you're on a
label that's not one of the massive labels in town,
but has a history of of being able to take
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artists and and really grind out a hit if the
song is worth it, you know, and they absolutely do
think your song is worth it. With it being on
the chart for thirty weeks, have you been able to
see any money from the song yet? I haven't yet, Um,
So I don't know when that's supposed to come or whatever.
But I'm still driving. I think we talked about my
little yellow car, um that I drove down from Saskatchewan,
(40:04):
and I'm still driving that thing. So if I ever
get a new car, you will know that the money
has come. Do your parents get to hear your song
on the radio now, since you know you have a
couple of hits in Canada now? Yeah, they say it's
on there all the time, And of course my my
hometown station is just like, I'm sure everybody's sick of
hearing me back there because I know they played a lot.
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Let me ask you a question about the song here, Um,
When you wrote this song might play club up before
me again. When you start writing this, do you start
with the melody or do you go on with some lyrics.
This one kind of came at the same time. I
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remember we were just like that melody felt so right
with with those lyrics. It honestly just kind of all
happened at one time, and then we decided to loop
that whole thing again kind of in a weird spot,
and I remember thinking, this is cool and unique. I
think this is going to be something really special, and uh,
I guess, I guess it is. I don't know. You know,
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the last time that we talked to Nail, it's been
maybe a year at this point, when she came over
and she she played in the house and we talked
about your neighbor. Your neighbor overheard you singing in the
backyard and said, hey, you should go get some vocal training.
Do you know who that neighbor is anymore? Have you
have you spoken to them since they still live next door? Yeah,
they still live next door. Her name's Donald Larson, and uh,
(41:28):
still super good friends with my my parents, and yeah,
it's it's a really cool that they still live there
because I can now kind of go over and thank her.
You did a show called Karaoke Star Jr. At fourteen
years old. What was that song? What was that show?
That show was? You know, Canada has a lot of
different like spinoffs of different things in the US, and
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this was It was kind of with one of those
like younger UM TV channels, and they were like, we're
going to do kind of an American Idol type of thing,
but it's gonna be okay, aoke songs. So I auditioned
with um Carrie Underwood Jesus take the Wheel, and I
just remember being so nervous and that song gets so high.
I just like, I was like, why did I do
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this to myself? I was speaking to TV I was
thinking about the other day because you did the Bachelor
or Bachelorette. What that series of show? You didn't eat
it twice? Right, I've actually been on the show three
times now three okay? So which ones did you do? Which?
Which which seasons? And people do you remember? So it
(42:31):
was Ari first, Um, and then it was Colton's season
and then Finns. So our buddy, my buddy Adam Hambrick
just played on the Bachelorette this season. After you finished
the first time, the second time, the third time. Did
you see like an infusion of folks coming to your music?
Did you feel the difference. Oh yeah, I mean I
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think people don't realize how much, like the Bachelor fans
are country music ends as well. Like I couldn't believe
how many people not only did they check out the
song that I've played on the show, they were going
way back and finding music that I had released, you know,
completely independently in like two thousand fifteen. So they were
really diving into my stuff, and the albums were popping
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up on the iTunes chart and stuff. I mean, yeah,
it's it's a really really great thing to be a
part of that show. Let me play a clip of this.
You just put out an original Christmas song called a
Winter Wonderland. Here's a clip of that. Lock in wondering
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what month did you record that song? So we wrote
that song literally like two weeks ago and recorded it
that week. Okay, so it wasn't like a big July
we had to fake it. You actually wrote it when
it was cold out I probably, yeah, I mean we
were just in a writing session. I was with Alison
Belts and the Chris August and we couldn't write a
(43:59):
song that day, Like, we just were sitting there four
hours and we're like, we got nothing. Then Allison was like,
why don't we write a Christmas song? So we wrote
that song and then by the end of that week
we had already put vocals on it and Chris did
the whole thing, and we were like, well, we don't
want to wait a whole year to put this out,
so let's just rush it out and get it out there.
(44:19):
So I'm really glad that we did that. Well, let
me end on this. I'm reading here are some of
your accolades, because as as weird Aswies been for a
lot of folks you know, and even yourself included, it's
been a pretty great year for you musically professionally. You're
the recipient of the Canadian Country Music Associations twenty Rising
Star Award, which happened to the ccmaz um this fall
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in September. I remember seeing it and I saw you win,
and I was like, holy crap, that's awesome. How cool
is it to give it? You get an awards now too?
Oh man, I'm like pincing myself, but it's so just
it's blowing my mind that this is happening in a
year that everybody just kind of expected it to just
be a wash. You know that nothing great was going
to happen out of it, and I think there are
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so many amazing things that have happened this year. Well, congratulations,
I'm proud for you, proud of you. Um, don't get
too big for your bridges and you've got a little
a little success now, you know. Don't be too good
to pick up the phone. Okay, to Neil never, I'll
always chat with you, all right, Tanil Arts. You can
follow on Instagram at tanil arts one where t E
n I l l E Arts check out somebody like that.
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I mean, I'm a big fan of I Hate This,
which is one of our older songs to kill. We've
played that in the Heart Women show on the weekends too.
Alright to Neil, have a merry Christmas. Thanks for talking
with this and we'll see you soon, hopefully next year
when things are normal when you come in the studio,
Thank you so much. I would love that and merry Christmas.
Hopefully see you soon YouTube. Bye to Neil
Welcome to episode to seventy four The Bobby Cast from California,
where it is almost ten am here. We took the
day off of the morning show today. I had a
late night at American Idol last night, about to head
back over today and tomorrow, So in between a lot
of American Idol taping, I'm recording this for you. So
if I sound exhausted, it's because I am. And we'll
(00:29):
get into some fun segments. We'll check up with tennil
arts check in catch up, I guess check ups a
tired way of combining the two words. You know. Last
time I had her on, we did a long form
interview with her for about an hour. She performed at
the house. But now she has the top twenty songs,
we'll talk to her by that. We will also bring
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back Tom Lord, my manager who did an episode a
few back, Caitlyn, my fiance, and myself. We'll do our
top five songs. Each of us are picking our top
five songs, regardless of genre that's on the way, and
obviously what we get to first every week is the
best new music releases of the week. So here we go.
Twenty one. Pilots has a new song called Christmas Saves
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the year. I thought it was an interesting Christmas song.
Here you go, Everybody's got somebodies got their name on
the show with Chame the Corn and Slave and cheer
you rest the short Christmas Saves at number four, sing
(01:32):
Me Back Home the music of Merle Haggard, Keith Richards,
when the Rolling Stones is on there, Cheryl Crowe, the
Abet Brothers, listen to Williams. Derek Spendley is on it
and this is him doing if we make it through December.
You got lit off down at the Factory and their Time.
(01:58):
At number three. This week, Eric Church has a new
song called do in Life with Me. I don't pray
much anymore. It's all true littleles, happenness, wishes, Polson, dates
in my rooms, horse and drinks in my living, getting thanks,
bull ships out, never sang every every little in everyday thinks,
(02:24):
the notes and words and the songs. I sang to
the wongs doing Live with Me. At number two, Taylor
dropped an entire album called Evermore. It was a surprise album,
her ninth studio album. She said it's the sister album
to Folklore. Here's a new song called Willow, which is
the first song on the album Knife was to Win
(02:51):
They Killed Me Out time and time again, Life and
the number one song you should check out this week
gets from Casey Musgraves. She has a new song called
Easy featuring Troice, Vonna Mark ronson have you See She
Still sweet Is and I'll do one honorable mention. Gwen
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Stefani has a new song out called let Me Reintroduce
Myself and here is That. Some albums out today. Britney
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Spears has Glory Deluxe. Star Jill Simpson has Cutting Grass
Volume two The butcher Shop Sessions. It's twenty of his
original songs but reimagined in blue grass form. The Avalanches
have a record, Chance the Rapper a Merry Christmas, Little Mom,
and Rewrapped Deft Tones, Less than Jake Oliver Tree not You.
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New music out this week up amusing news. Bob Dylan
sold his entire song catalog to Universal Media for three
hundred million dollars. There are a lot of those songs
you probably don't even know that Bob Dylan wrote to
begin with, or that was him singing on the TV commercial.
Dolly Parton plots a stadium tour as part of Dolly
(04:28):
Fest One. You know Dolly is kind of having a
fifth or sixth reinvention. She's like the the st Dolly.
Now she's saving kids lives. She saved two kids live
on the night Netflix movie Say you see that? Yeah,
she's pulled him from a car. Farbs on the list.
She's amazing Dolly Parton. As you can tell, Mike's also tired.
To celebrate her seventy five birthday, there is Dolly Fest
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and fifteen stadiums worldwide, as long as she can have
the shows without coronavirus, which is kind of what everybody's
hoping to do. She was invited to perform with Katy
Perry during the Super Bowl back in the day, but
Katy Perry couldn't, but Dolly couldn't because her husband was
said yeah, so Dolly Parton was invited to perform at
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the super Bowl, but because she had a sick husband,
she said no. Kaylee Hammock is collaborating with Art Alexis
from Ever Clear for a fiery rendition of his band
smash Hit. I will buy you a New life. Here
you go, I will buy you, We'll bay you, I
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will bake house West, I will bayue. It sounds like
all already ain't even singing there, he's trying. I saw
him perform because I was a massive ever Clear fan
in college. I saw him perform about two years ago
(05:58):
here in town, and it was tough. You really couldn't
do much other than stay right here in this ring
right there. Yeah. I loved ever Claire. Though. The Bobby
BoNT Show raises two point to five million dollars for
St Jude. We appreciate you. You all become a partners
and hope Chris Stapleton played the two day Radio thon
Radio thone. Here's a clip of I hope you dance?
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Who have you dit? Dan and Shayer eight years old.
They've been making music together for eight years. Congratulations to
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those guys a big anniversary. Obviously they're just killing it
right now. Mariah Carey splurged to create her magical Christmas
special for Apple TV Plus. She spent over five million
bucks on sets, costumes, and guest stars, which include Arianna,
Jennifer Hudson, Billie Agner, and Snoop Dogg. Also, Cardi Ba
claimed she spent a hundred thousand dollars just for rapid
(07:02):
COVID testing for cast and crew to make the Watt
music video. I don't know how people are mad about that.
If she has it, it makes everybody say great Radio Disney.
Radio Disney Country is gonna close, which stinks. Have a
lot of friends over there, but they will, you know,
stop operating a radio Disney. And I hit you with
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one more post. Malone gave everyone at his old high
school a pair of crocs a grape Vine Gray Vine
High School student body nine. You all get crocs, you
get a croc. You get a croc. You get a croc.
He worked at Chicken Express there back in the day.
What do you mean that's where he worked as a teenager,
just in the town. Cool? Got it? All right, that's it.
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Enjoy today's podcast. I know we did goodbye. Right now.
We are in the living room in our airbnb in
Los Angeles, and tomorrow we start American Idol. So we're
all gathered around the old microphone here. First, let me
introduce Kitlin, my fiance. Hello, thank you. Also, let me
introduce Tom Lord, my manager. You probably remember me from
(08:10):
the previous podcast I did, and I want to thank
you for all the comments and letters. Um, I will
be one person. There was one person, well yeah, but
I needed d M them back, Thank you so much
and obviously me what we're gonna do because the year
in less all come out, We're one after the other.
It's the best, this the best at So what we're
gonna do is go around the room and do our
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top five songs from just straight up top five songs.
There was no genre that had to be you know, defined,
or we didn't have to, you know, pick any sort
of music. And so we'll go first with Tom Lord.
You know first, this was a really tough one for me.
I gotta be honest with you going through it, and
(08:51):
I like Caitlin is looking at your songs going, what
the well she has? She does that bad tasting songs? Well,
I'm a bit obscure, no, honestly, I you know, it
was a weird year listening to music. It was at
my house mostly and just kind of went with my
same song, so, um one, well the first song on
my list? What are we doing? Five to one? Are
(09:13):
we just naming five songs just so it could be
any song? There's no or let's keep going around the room. Yeah,
go ahead, So I was gonna do my first song.
Oh we're going one at a time, Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, yeah,
and I want to and we want to hear whine, right, Bubby? Sure,
go ahead? All right. My first song is Time Stands
by Nathaniel ray Lift. Let me hear this here is
(09:45):
you showed me this song. It's so good. I once
ran into him at a radio station in Colorado. He's
a Colorado guy, I believe, and I was maybe Mike
and I were together, or maybe I was just there
touring We're about to go on the other and I
saw this guy, chubby guy, but I knew, I knew
(10:07):
what he looked like. And I was like, that's Nathaniel
right left for Naniel in the night Sweats is what
I know I'm from. That's right, yeh. I was like,
I think that's him. He fits everything, Like if someone
were to be like that, it's a nerdy guy, that'd
be me. And I was like, hey man, big fan.
And he almost seemed shocked that I knew who he was. Well,
when you're kind of a chubby guy walk around a lot,
not a lot of people stop you. I guess I
know that feeling. I can't confer. I didn't mean that
(10:31):
a bad way. I was blend in like an octopus.
You change your shape with color to blend in with
your involuate menant. Alright, Kaylen, you're up. Okay, we're not
doing our We're not doing any order anyone you want. Okay,
my number one favorite song this year is if You're
gonna do it that way, save one for last, you
(10:52):
know what I mean? Like you don't favorite songs and
no particular order is holy by Justin Bieber and Chance
the Rapper pun into the other can. That's the jam
it is. And I was convinced. It took me a second.
(11:13):
She was like, I love this song. But I've become
a big Justin Bieber fan in the past year because
of her and me watching things that I didn't associate
with my thought of Justin Bieber, because we do have
a perception of Justin Bieber based on what we see
on the very surface, from every one of the tabloids,
from every one of the websites that want us to
click in. But then once we start watching the YouTube
series and her, you know, being around that crew a
(11:36):
bit at church, and it was I was like, Oh,
I think I could like this guy. He has convinced
me to not that I didn't want to like him.
But I think the same thing. If you're not diving
into someone's music, you're only opinion is based on external
influence until you get into like I when I had
oddly enough, when I got into Justin Bieber's when I
(11:57):
had my first child and we were watched the same
animated shows over and over again, and it was one days,
let's watch something different. And I got fed his documentary,
his first one that he put out, and I thought, well,
this would be interesting and this that kid was talented,
still is talented, but just the way he was busting
(12:18):
in Canada and this, I mean his his his determination
and touring and even independently releasing his music like I
was sold. And I gotta tell you, I almost put
that song on my list. It was it was an edge.
The video is great too, like he's working. Uh, he's
like an iron worker and an oil field and he
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loses his job. Yeah, it's really good. She said that
Justin would also sing at church, just get up and sing. Yeah,
he would lead worship at church. Sometimes see against things
you don't know about, things that made you go well,
I was supposed. I never saw that on the internet. Yeah,
I was like, who was gonna pull out their phone
and record that. I never saw it. Yeah, And I
just love that song because he it's like new justin.
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He's like, I'm very strong of my faith. These are
the two most important things to me, God and my wife,
and I'm putting that all out there in this song.
Fine fact he had Holy that Florida Georgia Line ended
up cutting. That was his song and he gave it up.
He cut it, and it was like, I don't want
to put on a record. Then Florida Georgia Line got
a second and they have Holy. Yeah, that's not true,
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is it really? That was a Beaver song that is
so interesting. And if you put that one, I probably
couldn't put this one out because that have been like
it's like John Party putting out another boot song. He's
done too though he could do three once you factor.
My first song is going to be from the Chris
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Stapleton record, The New One, And I would compare this
song to when I watched the movie Her or when
I watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I only
need to watch it one time. This christ Apleton song,
Maggie song about his dog that died. It pops up,
but I never go chase it because it makes me
too sad. So but the first time I heard it,
I was emotional because I had a dog for fifteen
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sixteen years that I just love more than anything, and
now I have a new dog where you know that
the same feeling is starting to happen. But I heard
this song, this is Maggie's song on christapele dion'snew record,
Were the h I was talking to him a few
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days ago and asked him, Hey, which song was asked Morrigan,
his wife, and what was the most emotional song for
Chris to record? Because Chris doesn't talk a lot, but
I knew if I could, and I know Morgan a
little bit, and I was like, Morgan, you tell me.
But when Morgan starts talking, Chris lights up. So then
they started talking amongst each other and to me, and
he started talking about this song and he said that
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this is the one that he cried through and you
can hear him crying in the last verse of the song,
like you can literally hear him crying in the recording
of this. And he said it was so hard for
him to sing about it in a day, recorded it
later down cry to the back end of it. I don't.
I just feel like there's something in the way he
delivers songs to you. Just listen to it with a
little more emotion, like with Whisky and You from the
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song the album Traveler, same thing. I just sit there
and listen to it and it's like I feel it,
and I think with this one, I feel the same way.
It's just how he does it. Like if another artist
saying it, would it have the same impact. I don't know.
It's just the way he sings that that feels so real.
Whiskey and You was a phenomenal song. He's sang that
at our Raging Idiots Ryman show. He came out and
played with this and he did. That's a difference he
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didn't Whiskey see the when we sing it together. First
of all, it sounds great, but it does sound different
because you have to bear in the same room. Yeah, alright, Tom,
you're up. Give us another song we've never heard everyone
ever hear of again? Go ahead? Well no, well, actually
I want to stay on theme that. I wasn't gonna
go there necessarily, but um staying with Chris Stapleton because
this new record diving into that, I mean there's so many.
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I think starting overs great, but that is not my
Christapon song that's on my consolation list, which I do have,
which I'm not sure we'll have. Tom sound like thirty
songs over well, I did. I said, I was trying
to rank them a little bit in different genres. Send
me five songs all genre. He sent me the five,
then he sent me the backup team of five. Then
he sent me his all country version, and then he
sent me he just picked at random, and it's what
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popped up in on Spotify. That's it the recommends. I
just go to the randomly pick No. So staying with
Chris Stapleton from the new record, you should probably leave you.
You know me, what this song reminds me of is
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seeing christ and concert because I've seen him play this
a couple of times already before the record came out.
I said to him, I said, hey, this should be
your next radio song, and he was like, well, first
of all, you know, he doesn't care which song gets
picked for radio, and you can you know, like for him,
it's like if he puts it on his record, he
believes in the song, and so it's it's not he
doesn't sit there and dictate what songs shooters shouldn't be
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played at radio. He kind of leaves that to other
people who that's their job. But this one, I'm with you.
I've first I've heard this scient and on this record,
but it has been living in the Chris Stapleton ecosystem
for a while and he plays it out. It's kind
of a fan favorite, and I just was so happy
he put it on this record, and it's the show
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stopper to me. I believe he recorded it years ago,
recorded it and just hadn't put it on a record
yet because that could be He went down to Muscle
Shoals and recorded and they lost all power while they
were recording, and they were like, well, we can't keep
recording because everything shut down. You know that story. Well,
he talked about it. He should look to my show.
It's pretty good. I don't get up that early in COVID.
You sleep in Kaitlin. What's next? Um My next song
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in no particular order is Adore You by Harry Styles.
In the same way that we were talking about Bieber,
I feel the same about Harry Styles and that I
just know him as the gooper from one direction. And
you know how real can they be? However, once you
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really start to listen to this guy, you go, oh, man,
we shouldn't hold that against him. Yeah, if you take
one direction out of it, you'd love him. If he
were just marketed as a rock artist, like an alternative
artist that had him been in a boy band, I
think he would be a massive alternative success. You know,
they probably not put some of these super love ballads
on there, but he has rock stuff. The texture of
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those songs sounds like it would easily be an alternative song.
What he has done for me, and he has a
um a positive reaction, maybe as negative to me, a
very positive reaction to my wife, who loves Harry Style.
So I get a lot of Harry Styles in my household,
and my other one has got a whisper jo named
Keith Urban. I just remember when this song came out,
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I was just like, h not feel like that's Caitlin
in my mind, and I still feel that way. Thank you,
You're welcome. You just had a post on your socials
that sort of like completely put your heart out there too.
Would you say I breathe for people? What was that?
It was her? She took a sofie on my phone. Yeah,
that wasn't me, by the way, and the post those
words hold on, hold on. That was all a joke
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that a lot of people didn't get, which means it
wasn't a good joke. So anytime she gets my phone,
she takes a selfie of herself. So I posted that
picture of her taking a selfie herself and then wrote
any something that she would write from my voice got it.
I guess it was a little too high brow for
the common folk out there. I always think a picture
of this phone because I always have to hold his
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phone whether he's doing breaking body bones or whatever. So
I would just take a picture like, here's this behind
the scenes of me with a mask on, sitting staring
at you do your thing, so we can have a
nice compilation at the end of the season. And so
I did that. So the sincerity that I read into
it that it doesn't even really exist, and it was
the jokes didn't mean. The joke was if she were
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posting that what you look like, that's what she would
write for me to say about her. People about you're
just saying everyone did Yeah, yeah, I mean it. I
didn't mean it, but I got a lot of people
that like, that's so sweet of you that I don't
like doesn't know how to get this failed attempted at
a Instagram joke. I think people just think you feel
that way about me. I did, I do too, Yeah,
and then God whispered your name and everything change all right?
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Next time? Well taking a real left turn? Sweet? Oh anyway,
So well, well, this is definitely not that sort of
love story. Um. But American Aquarium, which is a band
that I've loved over the last several years, put out
a record called Lamentations this year and I love it
top to bottom. But there's a song on there that
haven't having been married for now twenty two years, you know,
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I know that sacred relationship between a husband and wife
and telling the truth. And it's interesting that we've had
um a lot of our friends that have been married
and then get divorced, and you can just see it's
sad to see how some of those relationships dissolve, and
I think this speaks to how that might happen. It's
a song called the Day I Learned to Lie to You. Yes,
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my biggest great life thing that keeps me up a
night lot. Are you doing okay? But because We've had
a few songs here. You like to feel, I like
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to feel it's interesting. I think I live in a
very utopian life like I it's it's pretty polly in
and in the Lord's house. Like I love my wife.
We've been married for a long time and we have
two beautiful children. But music is one of my escape
and I lived through different songs. And um, there's a
song Jason Isbel has called traveling Alone and I'll just
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love and I'll sit there and cry with that. Or
it's adele um what was their big blank A long time? No? No,
but yes, someone like you you that I'll just listen to.
And I'm like, I put myself in their movie, and um,
and it just makes me feel something. This one just
makes me feel something, and you know, it's outside of
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my reality. But that's why I go to music. It's
what I love music. I mean, all my favorite songs
just slow, sad songs. Yeah they see, I mean except
for the few now that remind me of her. They're
all like blue eyes crying in the rain. Well, and
I was like, Maggie song, ain't no sunshine, Maggie song,
It's God. That's the only way to get me because
I don't feel happiness. I've started a little bit. I
don't feel I do now. Your therapy, she just told
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me in the car ride back from Malibu. She's like,
we're teaching you new things. Joy No, I said it,
you know, I said before. It feels like from the
stories I've heard from others and from yourself, that you
struggled to feel happiness enjoy at one point in your life.
But now I don't feel that that's the case. I
think you're happy all the time. And then God whispered
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you the day I learned how a lot of you
so good, so good encourage people to listen to it.
It's so American Aquarium, right, Okay, there you go, Caitlin. Okay,
my next song is Seven Summers by Morgan Wallen. The
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funny thing about this is so once Morrigan had his trouble,
he went away for a bit. He came back and
he was only going to talk to one person, and
I got lucky that was me. So he came over
to the house and I said, hey, Caitlin, Morgan Wallace
coming overcau She loved Morgan Walling. She's like, well, I'm
gonna go go out and what did you go do
you guys like did We went to watch Stas Shiro
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play in her championship soccer game, which was pretty important
Amy's daughter, and I was like, hey, but hurry back
to Morgan and she didn't give a crap about any
sort of celebrity but so that she didn't come back.
But what happened was Morrigan walked over to the main
house and sat on the piano and played in the
living room and she was like, oh, man, can get
him to stay And I was like, he's already gone.
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That was really cool. I didn't see that that was
that was cool. What's funny for me? I wanted to
put and it's now two years old because I was
trying to find a loophole now, just to be clear,
on my list, these aren't songs that just got popular
in and they had to have come out in so
I was trying to be really cautious that because I
think still for me, heavy Rotation is Whiskey Glasses. You
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for me say that before, like, I still love that
song and I'd probably put that as a top five
listened to country song for me this year, even though
it's now a year and a half older longer. Yeah,
and I would say even on because I'm gonna play mine,
which is Chasing You. That was a single, it has
been out, but if it's been sitting on a record,
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I guess for me, my loophole was when was it
released as a single? And this song was released as
a single. But here's my third one, chasing you this? Uh.
I was never a Morgan Walling guy. And I told
him this, like, I just thought, alright, he's Florida Georgia
Line's buddy. He's just you know, they are. They're known
for just kind of having fun. And I was like,
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you know, do we need another having fun guy? Unfairly
judged him, But I hit that song up down right
with Florida Georgia Line unfairly judged him. And so he
starts to put out a couple of songs and I'm like, okay.
I had friends who are passionate Morgan Walling fans before
he blew up. I went to a show because there
were a bunch of iHeart people there during a radio ceremony,
radio convention. It was packed at Marathon Music work, and
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I'm like, what what am I missing about this guy?
So I invited him out to the studio and he
played Chasing You during the same Jude Radio thon last year,
and I was like, oh my god, he's so good.
Like he not only does he have good songs now,
but he has an extremely distinct voice when he talks
and when he sings difficult to have. Um so yeah,
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and I told him I'm now a big Morgan Walling guy.
But I wasn't at first, and I was wrong. I'm
similar to me. I think we all get a little jaded.
I've worked in this industry for a long time, so
when a new newcomer hits the scene, you're like, Okay,
it's got one song, or I see it Florida, Georgia,
line up down and you see, Okay, that's how they're
getting an audience. But he has consistently done it more
than my hometown is great. Love that song and you
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know the songs you guys added to your list? Where
would you put his ascent up there? Because listen, we've
never seen anything like Luke holmbs but this late Morgan Wallen,
extremely strong push is something that I haven't seen a
lot either me neither. But you know, I don't know
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that we would have known it You know, there may
have been a similar sort of swell for artists, but
we didn't see it as quick because we're seeing it
now real time with streaming. You know, before we can
see with album sales, and album sales would do well.
But now you're seeing real time all these Morgan songs
from the first record to this record dominating the chartie
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and Luke Holmes dominating the chart in that way. I'm
with you on that, Luke Hombs and and now Morgan
Wallen are are they in the same category to you
right now? I give Luke still ledge on that. But
Luke or excuse me, um, Morgan is quickly on his heels, yeah,
quicker than I would have imagined. And Luke Holmbs now
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is think I only been around a few years, but
he's now like the guy. And Morgan Wallen's like the
new cooler guy, which isn't fair because that just popped
up on the He's crushing it. But I'm starting to
see people now who do you which one do you
like better like? And matching them against each other, like
are you a Morgan Wallen guy or a Luke Holmes guy? Oh? See,
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you know you can't. I don't even put him in
that the same category that way, so um, nor do
you have to know, but you know, and I just
hope and I'm glad we're talking about him because I
don't know that the industry has given him the respect.
I don't know that he's helped himself in some cases,
but I don't think you know. And I saw it
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like with Grammy nominations, Morgan Wallan, I think deserved to
Amy nomination maybe for Best New Artists or Singular Song,
and didn't get one. And you know, maybe it just
wasn't his year for that for whatever reason. But I
hope the industry recognizes that, like we talked about before,
like we talked about with Florida George, and there are
some artists that they the industry just doesn't quite lift up. Um.
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I would say that was the Dan and Shay thing
for a long time until they just kicked the door
down with so much data that if you ignored them,
it was obvious you were only ignoring them because you
didn't like their their style. Yep. And I listen, I
have a I'm in a similar plight to work with
Gabby Barrett, and I feel like that's the same for her,
Like I think everybody's going, Okay, she has one song
and they're not totally seeing the whole ecosystem. And in
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the fuller reaction that she's getting as a whole, is
that our truck getting broken into? Right now? I lovely
brak can she's getting after? Oh oh so they got it? Yeah, alright,
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that's fun. Leave that in. Um, Kayla in your next
song that was a tom so you did um chasing you? Yeah?
I did. There's there. We're all three in all three
in okay. Um another just as is a Lord Household favorite.
I'm doing Yep, I'm doing Macareno. Is that too old? Um?
Moon Taxi light up? What are these guys about? Because
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I hear their name, But what's moon Taxi about? Who
are they there? Nashville band? Now? Um, but they have quietly,
Um they're sort of based out of Birmingham, Alabama, Nashville
Band and have just slowly, and I think a little
bit quietly, built a really big following. Like my wife
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and I went and saw him New Year's Eve at
Municipal Auditorium a couple of years ago. UM to a
sold out show there, and um, there's something about them.
They consistently make great music. And my wife, who's been
a fan of theirs for a number of years now,
I'll say this is her influence on my list because
she loves them so much that like I said, it's
in heavy rotation. So there is a newer song, but
they have songs like Morocco that I love. I mean,
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you go back, I say similar like I did with
American Aquarium. They've just American Aquarium has a great CATALOGUS songs,
as did Moon Taxi, but they've never had that big, major,
major label break. Are they on a major label and
are they a rock band? They were on a major label,
now they're off the major label and they're a rock band.
I would say they have the potential. This is me
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again biased, but I look at a band like Imagined Dragons,
who has a great energy on stage, you know, poppies
kind of rock songs, um, and I look at these
guys and I go, man, these guys could be and
imagine Dragons. I think it's really catchy songs, great energy
on stage, hugely talent and what I'm a melody guy,
and so they just there's so much melody either music. Um,
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I'm a fan Kitlyn. What you're doing over there, look
him up. I'm looking at your turn. What's your turn? No? No, no,
My My next favorite song of is I was trying
to figure off it's Levitate or Levitating. I think it's
Levitate by Doulipata Go. Just so everybody knows, Caitlyn grabs
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my ear because to rib my headphone off, it goes
very violently, like very violently. He's back into the microphone.
I don't have headphones, so I can't hear my song.
You do love I love you are a pop music fan,
your pop this is coming through well in country. Yeah,
she's like pop. I used to be all country, I
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mean really probably until the last Like five is year's
favorite country song of all time. You're the reason Got
made Oklahoma. You're the reason God made Oklahoma. I think
man's Amarella by morning. I will always love you blue
eyes crying in the rain or if tomorrow never comes?
Oh good? Yeah? Did you ever meet the Aliba where
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around town? Nice? All right, Matt Carney, Grand Canyon Mine.
Fun fact, This song came out the week before we
went to the Grand Canyon to shoot my Natgio show,
and we sing it the whole time. There you go
the alpun was that and that quickly made it to
the top of your list, didn't it. Well. I needed
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to put a homage to Matt Carney in there because
he's our guy. Yeah right, he's our guy. And I
like this song. Give you another one, alright? Mine is
mount Joy Strangers. So are we five for five on
not knowing any of Tom's artists? No, I guess you
know Stapleton. I've known a few because you let me
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listen to them. Yeah, yeah, it turns up. Say this again,
Mount Joy Strangers, Mount Joy. Okay, it's so indie, so good.
You're such an indie guy. Man. I grew listen. I
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grew up in uh in an arrow. I listened to
you know, just everything, and I played in kind of
indie rock bands and I love the Pixies and um,
Pavement and Unrest and the Police, and then I like
hair metal. I'm all over the place. Yeah, I'm like
an enigma wrapped in a mystery. Once we did a
show Caitlin where we were like, let's pull a drummer
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from the crowd who knows how to play the drums?
And it was Tom. We set it up and he played.
He did good because he used to play drums, and
then people were what is your name was Reggie? And
people were talking to you all after the show, like
Reggie did a great job. I'm leaving the show that
night walking in the back alley after the rhyme, and
there were people lined him. They were like, it's Reggie,
you did so great. Now you're blowing my cover, Caitlin,
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your final song. My final song is I should probably
go to bed, Dan and Shay, I should probably go
to bed. So, I don't know, what do you like
about that song? Everything nice? What do I like? Um? Like,
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why is it on your list? It's just so interesting
to me. I like that it sounds a little bit
like Queen. I love Abby Smiers and Dan Smiers was
her husband. I just like the song. I like everything
they do, but I love this. It's just so I
think it's so unique. My final song is Brett Eldridge
This is Fall for Me, which this is my favorite
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album he's ever put out. Maybe not, it doesn't have
a monster on it yet from the radio. I know
Gabrielle still trying. But as far as like music that
I would listen to all the time, like this was
a home run and I know for him this is
I think that most he like putting out a record
because I think these were writing right down his lane,
to write down his alley, to to write them and
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sing them and record them. So there you go. I
think part of the reason my list is it's what
I almost had a list that was fully songs from
Yellowstone because I got so engrossed in yellow Stone, so
I tried to diversify from that, and then I kept
peppering some in. But um, I love that song from
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Dan and Jay that is that for me, is a
top five country song. I didn't put songs on the
people that I directly work with because I felt biased.
Oh yeah, you could have put Gabby because I could
have put in raging idiots, but but the raging it's not.
Must stay the good ones with her jam. I told
you that is my jam. Well, and when I look
at my most played songs, it's I've got Chris Jansen
and Gabby Barrett and you know some other artists that
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I work with, and so I tried to do a
list without him. But Dan and Shay Um on my
country list, I'm just jumping into it. I do have
Chris Stapleton's hard to forget Sam Hunt. I'm surprised that's
not on our list. That's Sam record too. I missed
it when it came around the first time when he
put it out because we're writing a peak early coronavirus.
But then once I just kind of sat on it
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for a few days in a row. Every song is
fantastic on the record. Yeah, it's a great record. Um. Oh,
he's going down his list that he made it. Well,
you know, I should probably go to bed. It's on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I made the list. Um at number twenty three to
count down down? Right? Now, what are we gonna talk about? Movies?
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We just had a half hour that hour. Yeah, well,
thank you. Let me thank my guest, Tom Lord, thank you,
Thank for me, Caitlin, Thank you for having me and me,
Thank me for having me all right, thank you. Hey,
good to talk to you. How are you. I'm doing
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pretty well. How are you? You know? I wanted to
check in with you. It's been a while since we've talked,
and look at you, your songs crushing it. Now You've
got your first ever top twenty here in America. How
cool is that? It's so crazy? I literally am like,
I just keep refreshing the charts like this is this real?
You know, I say in America, because I think you
have a top ten in Canada right now to write
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same song I do. We had a top ten with
Somebody like That up in Canada, and now we have
another single out up there called Everybody Knows Everybody's top
ten as well. Okay, Bragger, we get it. You're killing it,
all right, we get it. Let me play a couple
of clips here. Let's see. Let's play a clip of
Somebody like That, the song that's burning up the charts.
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Here you go. So, you know, I got to ask, Yeah,
how awesome slash frustrating is it to watch that song
climb in a year where you can't even go out
to play it? Yeah? I mean, I think it's pretty
It's difficult to sit here and be like, oh, I
can't be out on the road and everything. But I
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think as soon as I do get back out on
the road, having this song having so much more success
than you know, it would have had if we were
out on the road this year. Um, I just think
it's going to be so awesome to step out on
stage for the first time and have people know this
song from the radio. It's going to be crazy. So
do you go back to Canada for Christmas? Or do
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you stay in Tennessee. So I'm planning on going back
to Canada, but I have to leave, um fifteen days
before Christmas to be able to see family, because I
have to quarantine for fourteen days. So you go over
in what do you just hop in a hotel room? Um?
I think I'm gonna hopefully stay in my mom's basement,
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just try to distance away from her and um, hopefully
keep it safe that way, because I really don't have
anywhere else to go, and I think staying in a
hotel in my hometown would be I might go a
little crazy if I had to do that, and also
really expensive. I have a friend who went to Australia
who's an artist, and she went for Christmas and she
had to stay in a hotel for fifteen days, and
she did. She stayed there the whole time, and by
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about day nine she was going absolutely berserk. Oh I
wouldn't I wouldn't make it. I swear I would go crazy.
I mean, I guess at least back home I would
be able to like go outside and stuff but I
don't know the Your song has been on the charts
for over thirty weeks. You know, you're you're on a
label that's not one of the massive labels in town,
but has a history of of being able to take
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artists and and really grind out a hit if the
song is worth it, you know, and they absolutely do
think your song is worth it. With it being on
the chart for thirty weeks, have you been able to
see any money from the song yet? I haven't yet, Um,
So I don't know when that's supposed to come or whatever.
But I'm still driving. I think we talked about my
little yellow car, um that I drove down from Saskatchewan,
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and I'm still driving that thing. So if I ever
get a new car, you will know that the money
has come. Do your parents get to hear your song
on the radio now, since you know you have a
couple of hits in Canada now? Yeah, they say it's
on there all the time, And of course my my
hometown station is just like, I'm sure everybody's sick of
hearing me back there because I know they played a lot.
(40:25):
Let me ask you a question about the song here, Um,
When you wrote this song might play club up before
me again. When you start writing this, do you start
with the melody or do you go on with some lyrics.
This one kind of came at the same time. I
(40:46):
remember we were just like that melody felt so right
with with those lyrics. It honestly just kind of all
happened at one time, and then we decided to loop
that whole thing again kind of in a weird spot,
and I remember thinking, this is cool and unique. I
think this is going to be something really special, and uh,
I guess, I guess it is. I don't know. You know,
(41:07):
the last time that we talked to Nail, it's been
maybe a year at this point, when she came over
and she she played in the house and we talked
about your neighbor. Your neighbor overheard you singing in the
backyard and said, hey, you should go get some vocal training.
Do you know who that neighbor is anymore? Have you
have you spoken to them since they still live next door? Yeah,
they still live next door. Her name's Donald Larson, and uh,
(41:28):
still super good friends with my my parents, and yeah,
it's it's a really cool that they still live there
because I can now kind of go over and thank her.
You did a show called Karaoke Star Jr. At fourteen
years old. What was that song? What was that show?
That show was? You know, Canada has a lot of
different like spinoffs of different things in the US, and
(41:50):
this was It was kind of with one of those
like younger UM TV channels, and they were like, we're
going to do kind of an American Idol type of thing,
but it's gonna be okay, aoke songs. So I auditioned
with um Carrie Underwood Jesus take the Wheel, and I
just remember being so nervous and that song gets so high.
I just like, I was like, why did I do
(42:11):
this to myself? I was speaking to TV I was
thinking about the other day because you did the Bachelor
or Bachelorette. What that series of show? You didn't eat
it twice? Right, I've actually been on the show three
times now three okay? So which ones did you do? Which?
Which which seasons? And people do you remember? So it
(42:31):
was Ari first, Um, and then it was Colton's season
and then Finns. So our buddy, my buddy Adam Hambrick
just played on the Bachelorette this season. After you finished
the first time, the second time, the third time. Did
you see like an infusion of folks coming to your music?
Did you feel the difference. Oh yeah, I mean I
(42:55):
think people don't realize how much, like the Bachelor fans
are country music ends as well. Like I couldn't believe
how many people not only did they check out the
song that I've played on the show, they were going
way back and finding music that I had released, you know,
completely independently in like two thousand fifteen. So they were
really diving into my stuff, and the albums were popping
(43:17):
up on the iTunes chart and stuff. I mean, yeah,
it's it's a really really great thing to be a
part of that show. Let me play a clip of this.
You just put out an original Christmas song called a
Winter Wonderland. Here's a clip of that. Lock in wondering
(43:39):
what month did you record that song? So we wrote
that song literally like two weeks ago and recorded it
that week. Okay, so it wasn't like a big July
we had to fake it. You actually wrote it when
it was cold out I probably, yeah, I mean we
were just in a writing session. I was with Alison
Belts and the Chris August and we couldn't write a
(43:59):
song that day, Like, we just were sitting there four
hours and we're like, we got nothing. Then Allison was like,
why don't we write a Christmas song? So we wrote
that song and then by the end of that week
we had already put vocals on it and Chris did
the whole thing, and we were like, well, we don't
want to wait a whole year to put this out,
so let's just rush it out and get it out there.
(44:19):
So I'm really glad that we did that. Well, let
me end on this. I'm reading here are some of
your accolades, because as as weird Aswies been for a
lot of folks you know, and even yourself included, it's
been a pretty great year for you musically professionally. You're
the recipient of the Canadian Country Music Associations twenty Rising
Star Award, which happened to the ccmaz um this fall
(44:40):
in September. I remember seeing it and I saw you win,
and I was like, holy crap, that's awesome. How cool
is it to give it? You get an awards now too?
Oh man, I'm like pincing myself, but it's so just
it's blowing my mind that this is happening in a
year that everybody just kind of expected it to just
be a wash. You know that nothing great was going
to happen out of it, and I think there are
(45:00):
so many amazing things that have happened this year. Well, congratulations,
I'm proud for you, proud of you. Um, don't get
too big for your bridges and you've got a little
a little success now, you know. Don't be too good
to pick up the phone. Okay, to Neil never, I'll
always chat with you, all right, Tanil Arts. You can
follow on Instagram at tanil arts one where t E
n I l l E Arts check out somebody like that.
(45:23):
I mean, I'm a big fan of I Hate This,
which is one of our older songs to kill. We've
played that in the Heart Women show on the weekends too.
Alright to Neil, have a merry Christmas. Thanks for talking
with this and we'll see you soon, hopefully next year
when things are normal when you come in the studio,
Thank you so much. I would love that and merry Christmas.
Hopefully see you soon YouTube. Bye to Neil
Host
Bobby Bones
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