May 12, 2023 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The Buck Sexton Show.
We have with us right now Joseph Pinion the Third.
He's a former Republican Senate candidate for the state of
New York and he is also a strategist in all
things politics and a man who just knows what time
it is right now in politics. Joe, good to see you.
(00:42):
Thanks for being with us.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Buck. Always good to be with you, my friend. How's
thing going?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You know, I'm all right. I'm a little concerned these
days about the trajectory of the country. So you're you're
like me, You're a New Yorker, and you know, recently
there have been a few things that I've been getting
a lot of attention in the news. One of them
is this incident with Neely Right, this individual who was
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you know, rabbed on the subway and a marine put
him in a choke hold. The guy had forty four arrests.
He had recently been arrested for punching a woman in
the face, an old woman elderly woman breaking her nose
and her eyes socket. People on the train felt that
he was a threat to them, and so they actually
cheered on the marine, or should say thank the marine
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for intervening at the time. So far there haven't been charges.
Do you think there will be? And what's your read
on the whole situation?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, look, I think if we are depending on Alvin
Bragg to do the right thing, I think we're going
to be holding our breath for a very long time. Certainly,
this is a man who has found a way to
be on the wrong side of all issues when it
comes to the safety and security of the people that
call the city of New York home, specifically the borough
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of Manhattan. I think it's encouraging that you had somebody
who was willing to step in. I think that we
can all, if we're honest with ourself, recognize that sometimes
we've been walking down the street seeing a homeless person
and wonder to ourselves is that person sleeping or are
they dead? And conversely, I think if we could imagine
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somebody that we loved on a subway train with somebody
acting in a threatening manner as this young man was,
we would hope that somebody would get up and so
in an age when we recognize that so many of
us walk past that which should shock our own conscience
in a world where people are so quick to pull
out a camera and start filming rather than nazi interject
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and to de escalate that, we don't want to create
the conditions where people are afraid to act because somebody
like this finds themselves in the unforced situation where that
action led to a young man's death. And so I
think it's reasonable to ask if the length of time
that the force always used is something that should be
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considered as it relates to whether it was a criminal
life to an accident. But I think the notion that
we have members of Congress using some of the most
hyperbolic and divisive language imaginable, calling this a lynching on
a New York City subway, just digging up some of
the oldest, darkest memories of American for lore, I just
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think it's unconstable. And I think that hopefully people realize
that cooler heads need to prevail and that the hard
truth is that the city of New York failed Jordan
nearly many many times before we ever step foot on
that subway car because people like AOC ran the Amazons
out of town to provide for the opportunity. People like
AOC decided that they wanted to make sure that we
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didn't have police officers on the subway. People like Corey Busch,
all of these extremists on the far left that has
been normalized by mainstream media have set the conditions for
everyday people to live in fear and for the people
who need government intervention the most to have it time
and time again deferred.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So, yes, Jordan Neely was failed many times over by
the system. That's true. He's arrested forty four times. Though
you would think part of that system might might involve
an incarceration during which he could get assistance, psychological treatment, counseling,
the things that maybe would allow him to be a
more productive and stable member of society. But from a
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policy level, you know, if you had been the center
from New York, I know you went up against Chuck Schumer.
I think it's worth noting that you made that race
a lot closer than many people anticipated, to your credit,
But what should change from a policy side of things.
I mean, let's just take New York. I know that
people are watching this from all over the country, listening
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from all over the country. But I think New York
can be an exemplar. You know, it can be the
place that shows how things could change and turn around
so that people feel safe on the subway again, which
seems like a reasonable thing to want for everyone.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, you know, there's a little saying the person that
you are in small things is also the person that
you will be in large things. I think the same
can be said about a city or a country. And
so beyond the subway, we have to start with just
everyday reality. We have to stop allowing crime to pay
right now. We have elevated the safety and security of
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the criminals over our responsibility to the common man. And
that is why you see people walking into your local
Walgreens and cvs taking all the toothpaste and the deodorant
and the beers and the cookies with indiscriminately. And that
might seem like a laughing matter, but it allows a
level of comfort to develop within those corridors of criminality
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to the point where again, then it's no longer the toothpaste.
Then it becomes a saw at home depot, Then it
becomes a laptop at your local Best Buy. Then it
becomes the purse of the person you love on the subway.
And so we have to start saying, if you do
the crime, you must do the time. And we always
have DA's not back by actual soils das, but people
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who are backed by the constitution, who remember their constitutional
oath to uphold the letter of the law in the
name of a grateful society. So we have to start
by saying that the three most dangerous words ever utter
in modern politics, defund the police, must be put in
the dust bin of history. We have to make sure
that we are providing more funding for local law enforcement
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to stem the tide of record retirements from NYPD and
police officers all across this country. And they have to
know that they have our support to go out there
and do the dangerous work of keeping our community safe.
And then beyond that, yes, let's talk about mental health
and access to those services. Let's talk about making sure
that we have jobs that are available that are aligned
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with the skill set of the American worker. But that
requires us to partner with business, That requires us to
partner with labor, not make an enemy of them, Not
continue to subscribe to this the myth of equal outcomes
that the Left tries you proliferate where we know that
everyone can't have great outcomes, but everyone in America should
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be entitled to equal opportunity.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I want to ask you about switching coasts here from
New York to California. Gavin Newsom's latest on the reparations
committee that he set up. I'm sure you saw the
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I just want to do everything that's going to be
the most socially just possible. I care so much about
minority communities, you know, avenues. He has this really important
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reparations committee that news And pulls together and they come
out with like I think it was almost two million
dollars a person for you know, black Americans living in
California who have there's a whole they have to sort
of proved their background and all this stuff, and the
committee came out with us, and Gaven Newsom today is like,
I totally think that's a great idea. I mean, we're
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not going to give them the money or anything, but
I'm totally with them. Otherwise, Joseph, isn't it about the money?
Like what am I missing?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, look, I think you know, I often does that
old saying, when the gods wish to punish you, they
answer your prayers. And so for a long time, many conservatives,
particularly I think black conservatives and minority conservatives, have been
warning people that these virtue signalers on the lift left,
they are willing to promise you anything just as long
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as it doesn't cost them anything. And so yes, they
will form a blue Ribbon committee if you talk about
how America is a systemically racist nation going all the
way back to sixteen nineteen, and that everything that is
traditional in this country is somehow rooted in the original
sin of this nation. But yet when they actually follow
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through on these kakamani policies that they cook up, turns
out they don't actually want to pay the piper, which
is the moulah, the cash money, the cream dollar dollar bills,
all of those things that they think are so important
to people's lives, and so I often told people, forget
about the dollar figure, focus on what's in the memo
line of the check, which is to say that we
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will never speak of this again. We can empower the
next generation by saying, hey, why don't we deal with
the fact that in places like New York City, seventy
five percent of the black students cannot do math at
grade level, That if you go to places like California
and even all across New York State, the vast majority
of our children are not reading at proficient levels. That
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there are no less than fifteen schools right here in
New York City where we have official levels for reading
below twenty percent for minority students. So to me, that
sounds like modern Jim Crow in a twenty twenty three era.
So to me, those are the things that we should
be talking about, the real Jim Crow. The educational crisis
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of our generation, the lack of opportunity that people have
as a result of being stuck in this cycle of doom,
what I call the three strands of despair. The actual
lack of educational opportunities, which leads to the poverty, which
keeps people locked in this cycle of crime that never
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ends and impacts everyone around us. So yes, again, welcome
to reality. Democrats don't care about equal opportunity. They are
the originators of the not in my backyard crowd. The
nimbi's for those keeping school. As long as they don't
have to impact their child, school, their families comfort, They're
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happy to give you anything you want on somebody else's dime,
in somebody else's time.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So, Joseph, the mayors of the biggest Democrat cities in
the country right now, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles are
all black. They're all Democrats, and they control very powerful
political systems in those respective cities. And it seems to me,
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I mean, you brought up just the reading proficiency or
lack thereof in New York City students, that there's a
failure of governance that's very apparent in those cities, particularly
over the last three or four years, and that one
would think that particularly the black community would be frustrated
with the lack of progress that has been made in
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these cities on key factors, right on economic growth, on crime,
on education, like go down the list. But how can
I even expect anything to change anyone for that matter,
if there's no political accountability, meaning it's just going to
be a Democrat replaced with another Democrat. Like what, what,
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what do you think it would take. I know it's
not gonna happen quickly, it's not gonna happen overnight, and
even small breaks in the support would be meaningful. But
what would it take for a substantial portion of the
black community, in your mind, in the major cities I named,
or any major city for that matter, to take a
look at a Republican, you know, a Republican who has
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new ideas for that city. I mean, you ran for
Senate in New York and as I said, dude, did
better than the polsters were initially given you credit for
what has to happen to make that point, that that
that turning point happen.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
We have to show up with our values and not
our politics as Republicans and Conservatives. And so look, we
can always talk about how we got in this mess, right,
that in a world where many people, particularly minorities, don't
think anything in government will improve their lives, they're happy
to vote for the person that seems to like them
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the most, right, And how Democrats effectively have created a
scenario where voting for a Republican is not just wrong,
a voting for a Republican actually makes you a bad person.
And so I think in that dynamic, yes, voting for
the same people and expecting different results doesn't seem like
an act of insanity. It seems like a measure of
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self preservation. And so how do you combat that? As conservatives?
We have to stop talking about things and viewing things
to a political prism. We have to show up in
the housing complex and say, I'm not here to ask
for your vote. I'm here to ask if you'll allow
me to test the drinking water because we know that
there's leading it and I'm worried about the state of
mind of your children. That I'm here to make sure
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that the paint on the walls doesn't have leadened it,
because we know they do. We're here to file reports
on the elevators in your building that don't work on
your behalf, because we know that at the hi of
the insanity of neglect here in New York City, we
had close to forty thousand elevators in New York City
public housing that we're not working. You know, I remind
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people we are forty billion dollars behind with the be
on critical upgrades for public housing here in New York City,
and that we have more people living in public housing
in New York City than all of Miami, Florida proper.
So that's a real chunk of people. That's real pain
and real suffering. And so yes, we can point to
Chicago and we can talk about that suffering, the carnage
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that it is inflicted on people every single day. But
we need more conservatives off the television talking about it,
and more conservative organizations on the ground walking children to
school and walking children from school so that they don't
end up with a straight bullet ending their lives and
their potential and their dreams. I think that putting you know,
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as they all say, faith without deeds, it is dead right.
We have to put our faith in action. And I
think that if more conservatives are willing to do that,
if the Republican Party spent a pittance of the billions
of dollars we spend on elections in between the elections,
demonstrating sincerity of purpose on critical issues that impacts people's
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everyday lives, I think that is how you show people
they can place their trust in us come election day.
That is how you see people have that next shift.
The first shift Republicans leaving en mass to vote for Democrats.
The next shift when black people come back from that
Democratic Party to really realized they can put their faith
in the Party of Lincoln once again.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I want to ask you in a moment, Joe, to
talk to me about the debt ceiling, which I think
is critically important. I can't just tell you my frustration
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So here's my thing. We're thirty what is it now,
thirty two trillion, thirty three trillion in debt. We have
a government that seems to think that a decrease in
the x respected increase in spending is a cut, right.
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I mean, this is the way that the mentality works.
It's oh, we thought we were going to spend an
extra trillion this year above the five or six trillion
or whatever it is that they were planning, and now
we're going to cut that a little bit. So that's
a cut. That's draconian. That's the word they always used. Draconian.
It's a big deal. But here's my concern. People just
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now look at this like deat ceiling fight. Republicans make noise,
nothing happens, Democrats get their way. Explain to me if
that's true or if it's not true. What's happening now.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Well, it certainly has been true to this point. And
even if you look at all the things that have
led up to this point, I remind people that we
got a one point seven trillion dollar boondoggle that was
signed into law before this Republican Congress ever got a
chance to be sworn in, because Mitch McConnell and twenty
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seven other Republicans got together to a spending that prohibited
us from even dealing with the real crisis of the
border or deal with the real crisis of spending that
this nation has been drunk on for quite some time. So, yes,
we have some irresponsible lawmakers down there in DC, and
some of them have an our next to name. What
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is the solution? I think again exposing the fact that
the people yelling MAGA extremists the Democrats are the ones
who are engaged in extreme brinksmanship. When you look at
what Democrats have done. They have gone out there and
convinced people Republicans want to cut Medicare and Social Security.
I think to the part of the speaker speaking, McCarthy
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came out with their plan that does not touch either
one of those entitlements, for better and for worse. But
now Democrats have a choice. They can be the people
they said they are right. As Joe Biden said that
he was quoting the words of Lincoln, his whole soul
was in it to unite this country. He could barely
be bothered to meet with the Speaker of the House.
He is up in New York raising money to ensure
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that he can do what he needs to do to
stay in power, whereas the veracity of the American dollar
is under threat. So yes, I think your public is
need to stick to their guns. I think they need
to be clear on message. We're not here to tank
the American dollar. We are here to do what any
family does when the credit card bill comes in too high,
come up with a plan to figure out how the
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next credit card bill is something that we can actually manage.
If the President can't get along with that, then perhaps
the American people need to reconsider who we send to
sit down there see hundred Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Don't you think it was a little bit more truth
than Koreine Jean Pierre intended when she said something along
the lines of if you have a car payment, you're
expected to make a car payment. It's like, well, we're
a country that can afford you know, you know, a
Toyota Corolla Emma rolling around in a land Cruiser month
after month, right, So that's not good this. So so
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by opening it up to the oh, think about this
is if you're an individual, Yeah, we have a government
with a spending problem, the same way that if you'd
an individual who is spending ten thousand dollars a month
on their credit card that they then just leave and
pay the interest off of, you've got a big problem,
right absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I mean, look, if you have a spouse that runs
up a credit card bill, you're not going to deny
payment and throw them to the creditors, right, You're probably
going to pay the bill, but you're certainly going to
have a conversation about the type of expenses that will
be approved moving forward and how that card would be used.
So I just think again, this is the type of
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nonsensical fear mongering that we can expect from people to
bang a table and talk about the integrity of our nation,
our institutions. And meanwhile, what we haven't even talked about
is the fact that it's become glaringly obvious to anyone
paying attention that the person leading that party is probably
compromised because of all the stuff that's come out with
Hunter Biden, the visits to the White House by his
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business partners while his father had energy under his purview
and they were trying to get energy contracts from foreign
nations that hate us. So again, up is down, left
is right, and this administration, under the leadership of Joe Biden,
a lack thereof, has driven America to the brink.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
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Mister Joe pinion, is mister Hunter Biden, in your estimation,
going to prison.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I think Hunter Biden will go to prison. I think
that when the history books are written, Joe Biden will
go down as arguably the most corrupt present of the
modern era. You have to remember that this is a
man in Hunter Biden, who we now know that his
senior business partner met with senior age to his father,
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then the Vice president fourteen times. We know that other
business associates met with members of the White House eighty times.
Looks like corruption. Smells like corruption, but maybe it's not corruption.
But wait, there's more. We now have the emails that
show exactly why they wanted, not only wanted, but needed
those meetings. The fact that they said, hey, we need
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to get some FaceTime with your father. If we're able
to get these meetings with the AIDS, then they will
release the bonds. Well, there is a word for that.
In fact, Democrats, namely people like Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff,
spent a great deal of time educating the American public
on that word. It's called quid pro quote, right, It
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means that they are going to try to get something
in exchange for this unholy dance that they've been engaging in.
And so it's quite clear that we can't say for
certain if the President himself is the big guy in question,
but we do know for sure that his son was
using his name and then using the access that his
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last name provided in order to get material benefit for
himself and his family members. So that to me seems undeniable.
The fact that they haven't seen any indictments on that
is comical at this point, but it's also quite dangerous
when you consider that we're not just talking about somebody
that runs a family restaurant. We're talking about somebody who
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was a heartbeat away from the presidency, whose purview was
the energy policy for the United States of America, while
his son was trying to get deals in many ways
that contravened the energy policies and interests of the United
States of America. It is an unholy cabal that we
have to get to the bottom up that we can't
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stop beating the drum on because it's bigger than Biden,
It's bigger than President Trump. It is the sovereignty of
this great nation that we love, and if we allow
that to come into question, we don't have a country. Joe.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think you see these issues with a very sober mind,
if you will, a very clear and straightforward approach. And
so I have to also ask you, do you think
that they are going to bring federal criminal charges against
Donald Trump? And do you think they would be willing
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to even try to lock him up in prison as
he's running.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, look, I mean we've already seen that there's no
lens they won't go to to try to beat President Trump.
We've seen from voters they're willing to cut off their
nose and spite their face if it means they can
beat President Trump. We've seen from Democrats they'll contort themselves
all kinds of ways. I mean, this latest I guess
liability of sexual assault in this New York City case
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against the President Trump was in many ways disgraceful. I mean, look,
you have to start with the fact that the plaintiff
could not decipher whether it was the fall of ninety
five or the spring of nineteen ninety six. And then
when you contrast that with the fact that they have
completely ignored arguably more credible and people with more contemporaneous confirmation,
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like Tara Reid did against Joe Biden. This notion that
they are in the all women are to be believed
tent is laughable. When you factor in the fact that
that lawsuit was paid for by somebody, the founder of LinkedIn,
then you have to start asking if the lawsuit had
any integrity to begin with. And so it comes to
the end when there is no integrity and many of
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the attacks that they lay at the feet of President Trump.
And so we just have to dig in here for
the long haul because this is going to be the ugliest, nastiest,
most contentious fight for the presidency we have I think
in the history of this nation spared no election. So
I look at Conservatives patriots out there, do what you
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can when you can, because the disinformation is going to
be flying. It's not going to be about what comes
out of the mouths and Republicans. Is going to be
about the silence of the media in the face of
the obvious corruption.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
On the other side of this, Ledger Joseph Pinion, the
third everybody, my friend and hopefully future contender for the
United States Senate again, Joe, I know it took a
lot out of the first time, but you had a
good run and we'd love to see you go the
distance the next time. So I'm putting my money on you.
Anything you want to tell everybody, but where to follow
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your work or anything up planned.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Look, man, they just got to stay tuned. Obviously. They
can follow me on Twitter, Joseph Pinion one word. They
can find me on Instagram. I am Joe Pinion. Find
me on Getter in Truth Joe Opinion one word. But look, man,
we've got a state to save, we've got a country
to turn around. We've got to make sure we have
Republicans down in DC who are doing the people's bidding
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and not the bidding of the special interest, the status
quo that gets us nowhere. So look, we haven't even
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of this nation, but more importantly, the privacy of our citizens,
those sacred rights. So a lot of work to do,
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a lot of challenges ahead, but that's why it's more
important to be a star worth of this great Republic
today than never before.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Joe, thanks so much for your time, my friend, will
talk soon.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Blessed talk to you, my friend,
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The Buck Sexton Show.
We have with us right now Joseph Pinion the Third.
He's a former Republican Senate candidate for the state of
New York and he is also a strategist in all
things politics and a man who just knows what time
it is right now in politics. Joe, good to see you.
(00:42):
Thanks for being with us.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Buck. Always good to be with you, my friend. How's
thing going?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You know, I'm all right. I'm a little concerned these
days about the trajectory of the country. So you're you're
like me, You're a New Yorker, and you know, recently
there have been a few things that I've been getting
a lot of attention in the news. One of them
is this incident with Neely Right, this individual who was
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you know, rabbed on the subway and a marine put
him in a choke hold. The guy had forty four arrests.
He had recently been arrested for punching a woman in
the face, an old woman elderly woman breaking her nose
and her eyes socket. People on the train felt that
he was a threat to them, and so they actually
cheered on the marine, or should say thank the marine
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for intervening at the time. So far there haven't been charges.
Do you think there will be? And what's your read
on the whole situation?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, look, I think if we are depending on Alvin
Bragg to do the right thing, I think we're going
to be holding our breath for a very long time. Certainly,
this is a man who has found a way to
be on the wrong side of all issues when it
comes to the safety and security of the people that
call the city of New York home, specifically the borough
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of Manhattan. I think it's encouraging that you had somebody
who was willing to step in. I think that we
can all, if we're honest with ourself, recognize that sometimes
we've been walking down the street seeing a homeless person
and wonder to ourselves is that person sleeping or are
they dead? And conversely, I think if we could imagine
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somebody that we loved on a subway train with somebody
acting in a threatening manner as this young man was,
we would hope that somebody would get up and so
in an age when we recognize that so many of
us walk past that which should shock our own conscience
in a world where people are so quick to pull
out a camera and start filming rather than nazi interject
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and to de escalate that, we don't want to create
the conditions where people are afraid to act because somebody
like this finds themselves in the unforced situation where that
action led to a young man's death. And so I
think it's reasonable to ask if the length of time
that the force always used is something that should be
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considered as it relates to whether it was a criminal
life to an accident. But I think the notion that
we have members of Congress using some of the most
hyperbolic and divisive language imaginable, calling this a lynching on
a New York City subway, just digging up some of
the oldest, darkest memories of American for lore, I just
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think it's unconstable. And I think that hopefully people realize
that cooler heads need to prevail and that the hard
truth is that the city of New York failed Jordan
nearly many many times before we ever step foot on
that subway car because people like AOC ran the Amazons
out of town to provide for the opportunity. People like
AOC decided that they wanted to make sure that we
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didn't have police officers on the subway. People like Corey Busch,
all of these extremists on the far left that has
been normalized by mainstream media have set the conditions for
everyday people to live in fear and for the people
who need government intervention the most to have it time
and time again deferred.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So, yes, Jordan Neely was failed many times over by
the system. That's true. He's arrested forty four times. Though
you would think part of that system might might involve
an incarceration during which he could get assistance, psychological treatment, counseling,
the things that maybe would allow him to be a
more productive and stable member of society. But from a
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policy level, you know, if you had been the center
from New York, I know you went up against Chuck Schumer.
I think it's worth noting that you made that race
a lot closer than many people anticipated, to your credit,
But what should change from a policy side of things.
I mean, let's just take New York. I know that
people are watching this from all over the country, listening
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from all over the country. But I think New York
can be an exemplar. You know, it can be the
place that shows how things could change and turn around
so that people feel safe on the subway again, which
seems like a reasonable thing to want for everyone.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, you know, there's a little saying the person that
you are in small things is also the person that
you will be in large things. I think the same
can be said about a city or a country. And
so beyond the subway, we have to start with just
everyday reality. We have to stop allowing crime to pay
right now. We have elevated the safety and security of
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the criminals over our responsibility to the common man. And
that is why you see people walking into your local
Walgreens and cvs taking all the toothpaste and the deodorant
and the beers and the cookies with indiscriminately. And that
might seem like a laughing matter, but it allows a
level of comfort to develop within those corridors of criminality
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to the point where again, then it's no longer the toothpaste.
Then it becomes a saw at home depot, Then it
becomes a laptop at your local Best Buy. Then it
becomes the purse of the person you love on the subway.
And so we have to start saying, if you do
the crime, you must do the time. And we always
have DA's not back by actual soils das, but people
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who are backed by the constitution, who remember their constitutional
oath to uphold the letter of the law in the
name of a grateful society. So we have to start
by saying that the three most dangerous words ever utter
in modern politics, defund the police, must be put in
the dust bin of history. We have to make sure
that we are providing more funding for local law enforcement
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to stem the tide of record retirements from NYPD and
police officers all across this country. And they have to
know that they have our support to go out there
and do the dangerous work of keeping our community safe.
And then beyond that, yes, let's talk about mental health
and access to those services. Let's talk about making sure
that we have jobs that are available that are aligned
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with the skill set of the American worker. But that
requires us to partner with business, That requires us to
partner with labor, not make an enemy of them, Not
continue to subscribe to this the myth of equal outcomes
that the Left tries you proliferate where we know that
everyone can't have great outcomes, but everyone in America should
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be entitled to equal opportunity.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I want to ask you about switching coasts here from
New York to California. Gavin Newsom's latest on the reparations
committee that he set up. I'm sure you saw the
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I just want to do everything that's going to be
the most socially just possible. I care so much about
minority communities, you know, avenues. He has this really important
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reparations committee that news And pulls together and they come
out with like I think it was almost two million
dollars a person for you know, black Americans living in
California who have there's a whole they have to sort
of proved their background and all this stuff, and the
committee came out with us, and Gaven Newsom today is like,
I totally think that's a great idea. I mean, we're
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not going to give them the money or anything, but
I'm totally with them. Otherwise, Joseph, isn't it about the money?
Like what am I missing?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, look, I think you know, I often does that
old saying, when the gods wish to punish you, they
answer your prayers. And so for a long time, many conservatives,
particularly I think black conservatives and minority conservatives, have been
warning people that these virtue signalers on the lift left,
they are willing to promise you anything just as long
(10:03):
as it doesn't cost them anything. And so yes, they
will form a blue Ribbon committee if you talk about
how America is a systemically racist nation going all the
way back to sixteen nineteen, and that everything that is
traditional in this country is somehow rooted in the original
sin of this nation. But yet when they actually follow
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through on these kakamani policies that they cook up, turns
out they don't actually want to pay the piper, which
is the moulah, the cash money, the cream dollar dollar bills,
all of those things that they think are so important
to people's lives, and so I often told people, forget
about the dollar figure, focus on what's in the memo
line of the check, which is to say that we
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will never speak of this again. We can empower the
next generation by saying, hey, why don't we deal with
the fact that in places like New York City, seventy
five percent of the black students cannot do math at
grade level, That if you go to places like California
and even all across New York State, the vast majority
of our children are not reading at proficient levels. That
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there are no less than fifteen schools right here in
New York City where we have official levels for reading
below twenty percent for minority students. So to me, that
sounds like modern Jim Crow in a twenty twenty three era.
So to me, those are the things that we should
be talking about, the real Jim Crow. The educational crisis
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of our generation, the lack of opportunity that people have
as a result of being stuck in this cycle of doom,
what I call the three strands of despair. The actual
lack of educational opportunities, which leads to the poverty, which
keeps people locked in this cycle of crime that never
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ends and impacts everyone around us. So yes, again, welcome
to reality. Democrats don't care about equal opportunity. They are
the originators of the not in my backyard crowd. The
nimbi's for those keeping school. As long as they don't
have to impact their child, school, their families comfort, They're
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happy to give you anything you want on somebody else's dime,
in somebody else's time.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So, Joseph, the mayors of the biggest Democrat cities in
the country right now, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles are
all black. They're all Democrats, and they control very powerful
political systems in those respective cities. And it seems to me,
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I mean, you brought up just the reading proficiency or
lack thereof in New York City students, that there's a
failure of governance that's very apparent in those cities, particularly
over the last three or four years, and that one
would think that particularly the black community would be frustrated
with the lack of progress that has been made in
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these cities on key factors, right on economic growth, on crime,
on education, like go down the list. But how can
I even expect anything to change anyone for that matter,
if there's no political accountability, meaning it's just going to
be a Democrat replaced with another Democrat. Like what, what,
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what do you think it would take. I know it's
not gonna happen quickly, it's not gonna happen overnight, and
even small breaks in the support would be meaningful. But
what would it take for a substantial portion of the
black community, in your mind, in the major cities I named,
or any major city for that matter, to take a
look at a Republican, you know, a Republican who has
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new ideas for that city. I mean, you ran for
Senate in New York and as I said, dude, did
better than the polsters were initially given you credit for
what has to happen to make that point, that that
that turning point happen.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
We have to show up with our values and not
our politics as Republicans and Conservatives. And so look, we
can always talk about how we got in this mess, right,
that in a world where many people, particularly minorities, don't
think anything in government will improve their lives, they're happy
to vote for the person that seems to like them
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the most, right, And how Democrats effectively have created a
scenario where voting for a Republican is not just wrong,
a voting for a Republican actually makes you a bad person.
And so I think in that dynamic, yes, voting for
the same people and expecting different results doesn't seem like
an act of insanity. It seems like a measure of
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self preservation. And so how do you combat that? As conservatives?
We have to stop talking about things and viewing things
to a political prism. We have to show up in
the housing complex and say, I'm not here to ask
for your vote. I'm here to ask if you'll allow
me to test the drinking water because we know that
there's leading it and I'm worried about the state of
mind of your children. That I'm here to make sure
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that the paint on the walls doesn't have leadened it,
because we know they do. We're here to file reports
on the elevators in your building that don't work on
your behalf, because we know that at the hi of
the insanity of neglect here in New York City, we
had close to forty thousand elevators in New York City
public housing that we're not working. You know, I remind
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people we are forty billion dollars behind with the be
on critical upgrades for public housing here in New York City,
and that we have more people living in public housing
in New York City than all of Miami, Florida proper.
So that's a real chunk of people. That's real pain
and real suffering. And so yes, we can point to
Chicago and we can talk about that suffering, the carnage
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that it is inflicted on people every single day. But
we need more conservatives off the television talking about it,
and more conservative organizations on the ground walking children to
school and walking children from school so that they don't
end up with a straight bullet ending their lives and
their potential and their dreams. I think that putting you know,
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as they all say, faith without deeds, it is dead right.
We have to put our faith in action. And I
think that if more conservatives are willing to do that,
if the Republican Party spent a pittance of the billions
of dollars we spend on elections in between the elections,
demonstrating sincerity of purpose on critical issues that impacts people's
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everyday lives, I think that is how you show people
they can place their trust in us come election day.
That is how you see people have that next shift.
The first shift Republicans leaving en mass to vote for Democrats.
The next shift when black people come back from that
Democratic Party to really realized they can put their faith
in the Party of Lincoln once again.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
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So here's my thing. We're thirty what is it now,
thirty two trillion, thirty three trillion in debt. We have
a government that seems to think that a decrease in
the x respected increase in spending is a cut, right.
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I mean, this is the way that the mentality works.
It's oh, we thought we were going to spend an
extra trillion this year above the five or six trillion
or whatever it is that they were planning, and now
we're going to cut that a little bit. So that's
a cut. That's draconian. That's the word they always used. Draconian.
It's a big deal. But here's my concern. People just
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now look at this like deat ceiling fight. Republicans make noise,
nothing happens, Democrats get their way. Explain to me if
that's true or if it's not true. What's happening now.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Well, it certainly has been true to this point. And
even if you look at all the things that have
led up to this point, I remind people that we
got a one point seven trillion dollar boondoggle that was
signed into law before this Republican Congress ever got a
chance to be sworn in, because Mitch McConnell and twenty
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seven other Republicans got together to a spending that prohibited
us from even dealing with the real crisis of the
border or deal with the real crisis of spending that
this nation has been drunk on for quite some time. So, yes,
we have some irresponsible lawmakers down there in DC, and
some of them have an our next to name. What
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is the solution? I think again exposing the fact that
the people yelling MAGA extremists the Democrats are the ones
who are engaged in extreme brinksmanship. When you look at
what Democrats have done. They have gone out there and
convinced people Republicans want to cut Medicare and Social Security.
I think to the part of the speaker speaking, McCarthy
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came out with their plan that does not touch either
one of those entitlements, for better and for worse. But
now Democrats have a choice. They can be the people
they said they are right. As Joe Biden said that
he was quoting the words of Lincoln, his whole soul
was in it to unite this country. He could barely
be bothered to meet with the Speaker of the House.
He is up in New York raising money to ensure
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that he can do what he needs to do to
stay in power, whereas the veracity of the American dollar
is under threat. So yes, I think your public is
need to stick to their guns. I think they need
to be clear on message. We're not here to tank
the American dollar. We are here to do what any
family does when the credit card bill comes in too high,
come up with a plan to figure out how the
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next credit card bill is something that we can actually manage.
If the President can't get along with that, then perhaps
the American people need to reconsider who we send to
sit down there see hundred Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Don't you think it was a little bit more truth
than Koreine Jean Pierre intended when she said something along
the lines of if you have a car payment, you're
expected to make a car payment. It's like, well, we're
a country that can afford you know, you know, a
Toyota Corolla Emma rolling around in a land Cruiser month
after month, right, So that's not good this. So so
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by opening it up to the oh, think about this
is if you're an individual, Yeah, we have a government
with a spending problem, the same way that if you'd
an individual who is spending ten thousand dollars a month
on their credit card that they then just leave and
pay the interest off of, you've got a big problem,
right absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I mean, look, if you have a spouse that runs
up a credit card bill, you're not going to deny
payment and throw them to the creditors, right, You're probably
going to pay the bill, but you're certainly going to
have a conversation about the type of expenses that will
be approved moving forward and how that card would be used.
So I just think again, this is the type of
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nonsensical fear mongering that we can expect from people to
bang a table and talk about the integrity of our nation,
our institutions. And meanwhile, what we haven't even talked about
is the fact that it's become glaringly obvious to anyone
paying attention that the person leading that party is probably
compromised because of all the stuff that's come out with
Hunter Biden, the visits to the White House by his
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business partners while his father had energy under his purview
and they were trying to get energy contracts from foreign
nations that hate us. So again, up is down, left
is right, and this administration, under the leadership of Joe Biden,
a lack thereof, has driven America to the brink.
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Mister Joe pinion, is mister Hunter Biden, in your estimation,
going to prison.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I think Hunter Biden will go to prison. I think
that when the history books are written, Joe Biden will
go down as arguably the most corrupt present of the
modern era. You have to remember that this is a
man in Hunter Biden, who we now know that his
senior business partner met with senior age to his father,
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then the Vice president fourteen times. We know that other
business associates met with members of the White House eighty times.
Looks like corruption. Smells like corruption, but maybe it's not corruption.
But wait, there's more. We now have the emails that
show exactly why they wanted, not only wanted, but needed
those meetings. The fact that they said, hey, we need
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to get some FaceTime with your father. If we're able
to get these meetings with the AIDS, then they will
release the bonds. Well, there is a word for that.
In fact, Democrats, namely people like Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff,
spent a great deal of time educating the American public
on that word. It's called quid pro quote, right, It
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means that they are going to try to get something
in exchange for this unholy dance that they've been engaging in.
And so it's quite clear that we can't say for
certain if the President himself is the big guy in question,
but we do know for sure that his son was
using his name and then using the access that his
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last name provided in order to get material benefit for
himself and his family members. So that to me seems undeniable.
The fact that they haven't seen any indictments on that
is comical at this point, but it's also quite dangerous
when you consider that we're not just talking about somebody
that runs a family restaurant. We're talking about somebody who
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was a heartbeat away from the presidency, whose purview was
the energy policy for the United States of America, while
his son was trying to get deals in many ways
that contravened the energy policies and interests of the United
States of America. It is an unholy cabal that we
have to get to the bottom up that we can't
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stop beating the drum on because it's bigger than Biden,
It's bigger than President Trump. It is the sovereignty of
this great nation that we love, and if we allow
that to come into question, we don't have a country. Joe.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think you see these issues with a very sober mind,
if you will, a very clear and straightforward approach. And
so I have to also ask you, do you think
that they are going to bring federal criminal charges against
Donald Trump? And do you think they would be willing
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to even try to lock him up in prison as
he's running.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, look, I mean we've already seen that there's no
lens they won't go to to try to beat President Trump.
We've seen from voters they're willing to cut off their
nose and spite their face if it means they can
beat President Trump. We've seen from Democrats they'll contort themselves
all kinds of ways. I mean, this latest I guess
liability of sexual assault in this New York City case
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against the President Trump was in many ways disgraceful. I mean, look,
you have to start with the fact that the plaintiff
could not decipher whether it was the fall of ninety
five or the spring of nineteen ninety six. And then
when you contrast that with the fact that they have
completely ignored arguably more credible and people with more contemporaneous confirmation,
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like Tara Reid did against Joe Biden. This notion that
they are in the all women are to be believed
tent is laughable. When you factor in the fact that
that lawsuit was paid for by somebody, the founder of LinkedIn,
then you have to start asking if the lawsuit had
any integrity to begin with. And so it comes to
the end when there is no integrity and many of
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the attacks that they lay at the feet of President Trump.
And so we just have to dig in here for
the long haul because this is going to be the ugliest, nastiest,
most contentious fight for the presidency we have I think
in the history of this nation spared no election. So
I look at Conservatives patriots out there, do what you
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can when you can, because the disinformation is going to
be flying. It's not going to be about what comes
out of the mouths and Republicans. Is going to be
about the silence of the media in the face of
the obvious corruption.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
On the other side of this, Ledger Joseph Pinion, the
third everybody, my friend and hopefully future contender for the
United States Senate again, Joe, I know it took a
lot out of the first time, but you had a
good run and we'd love to see you go the
distance the next time. So I'm putting my money on you.
Anything you want to tell everybody, but where to follow
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your work or anything up planned.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Look, man, they just got to stay tuned. Obviously. They
can follow me on Twitter, Joseph Pinion one word. They
can find me on Instagram. I am Joe Pinion. Find
me on Getter in Truth Joe Opinion one word. But look, man,
we've got a state to save, we've got a country
to turn around. We've got to make sure we have
Republicans down in DC who are doing the people's bidding
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and not the bidding of the special interest, the status
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which again imperils the future of this nation, the sovereignty
of this nation, but more importantly, the privacy of our citizens,
those sacred rights. So a lot of work to do,
(29:36):
a lot of challenges ahead, but that's why it's more
important to be a star worth of this great Republic
today than never before.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Joe, thanks so much for your time, my friend, will
talk soon.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Blessed talk to you, my friend,
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