May 10, 2023 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Buck Sexton Show.
We are very pleased now to be joined by our
friend Sean Davis. He is the CEO of The Federalist,
which is one of my favorite sites of Federalist dot com.
Go check it out yourself. Sean pulls no punches, knows
lots of stuff. A very astute and feisty fellow, mister
(00:41):
Sean Davis. Good to have you on, Good to be on.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So as as we see here discussing this, you no
doubt saw that Donald Trump is now on the hook
for I think it's almost five million dollars because of
this Egene Carol suit civil suit in New York. He
was not found liable for rape, but he was for
defamation and a sexual assault, but not rising the level
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of rape. Is my understanding of how this judgment came down.
I want your reaction to that. And then also, are
they gonna are they just going to basically tie this
guy up with lawsuits and criminal charges and all kinds
of stuff in a way that makes a mockery of
the entire judicial system. Like, what do you think the
plan is here for the law fair against Trump going
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into twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh, however bad you think it is, I promise you
it's worse because it's not constrained to Trump. Now. Obviously
they're never going to leave him alone ever again, because
they're using him as an example to all other Republicans
that if you go off the reservation, if you don't
stay where you need to be, we will destroy you.
We'll come at you with grand jury's in Georgia and
(01:54):
New York. We'll have a special counsel at the Federal
DJ coming after you. You will never have a RESTful
night's sleep again. You will always wonder, You'll always be
looking over your back, wondering if we're coming, how we're
going to get you next. But here's the thing. It
doesn't stop at Donald Trump. It's not like they're going
to get rid of Donald Trump. And some have be like, okay,
back to an even playing field, No more shenanigans were good.
(02:18):
Just look at what they've done with J six. They
are criminalizing opposition itself to the regime. They're throwing in prison.
I think one guy for fourteen or fifteen years. He
never even entered the Capitol, he never even went into
the building on j six. They're trying to throw them,
put them away for fifteen years. So people need to
understand it doesn't matter if you hate Trump. This doesn't
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stop with him. The left is insatiable. They want total control.
It's why they're coming after people's kids. It's why they're
coming after you on social media. It's why they're censoring you.
It's why they're throwing people in prison for a protest
while letting their own people set fire to cities across
the nation. They are criminalizing any opposition to their regime,
and people need to understand it's not about Trump, It's
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about opposition to them. And if they can get Trump,
they can get anyone, including you.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Do think that they're going to try to not only
press additional criminal charges. I have to keep reminding it
almost sounds so crazy when you say it, right, they're
already trying to. They've launched what is it, thirty felonies
or something, or twenty four felonies in New York. The
most absurd. Now everyone keeps talking about how sort of is.
I worry that a New York jury. I mean, we
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just saw one New York jury find against Trump in
a civil trial for which there was really no evidence.
It was just someone said something and the jury believed
this individual, right, I worry what the jury will do
in the you know, Trump hush money payoff case. But
there's also Atlanta where there's possible charges coming from that
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district attorney who has it's pretty clear it would be
something about the election, maybe even racketeering or conspiracy to
commit election fraud. There's some crazy stuff that's being talked about.
And then there's a special council looking at January sixth
and everything else. I bring all that up, Sean, because
if they're willing to go to the mat on this
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stuff and just burned down the village in order to
save it, right, why wouldn't they try to throw Trump
in prison? He has no immunity from prison.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Right now, I'm sure they're going to I mean, they
sent the Feds, an arm squad of Feds to his house,
which they had previously walked through and inspected with him,
raided his home, took pictures of it through it on
the internet. Went through his wife's clothes. Yeah, they want
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this guy and anyone who backed him, and anyone who
poses them gone forever by hook or crook. And you
look at New York, you look at DC, you look
at Atlanta. There's a reason they're picking these venues, and
it's because the rule of law in these areas, in
these blue cities is debt. If you are a Republican,
you are getting convicted. If you are a Democrat and
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somehow you end up being charged, you're walking away scott free.
I mean, just look at the situation with Michael Sussman.
This was the DNC and Clinton lawyer who was rung
up by Durham's investigation for peddling false statements to the
FBI about the Russian coclusion hoax. They rolled him into
a DC jury, which is where the crime had to
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be charged because where it took place. And I think
they acquitted him like in a day, if not in hours,
with one of the jurors saying, I don't even know
why we're here. This is a waste of time. If
you have the right politics, if you're wearing a blue jersey,
you're safe in a blue city. Nothing will happen to you.
You could throw molotov cocktails at cops, you can burn
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down buildings, you can threaten people on a subway. Nothing
is going to happen to you. But if you are
wearing a red jersey and you're a grammar and you
live out in the middle of nowhere, and you showed
up the wrong place at the wrong time, they will
destroy you.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know, Sean, I I want to ask you, because
people ask me this question all the time, Well, what
do we do given that we know what's coming? How
do we act? How do we counteract this, this plot,
this strategy that the Left is as unfolding right now
I think in front of us with twenty twenty four ahead.
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you think we do about what's coming? How do we
mobilize properly? Just on the issue of using the law
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and the DOJ perhaps as a weapon in an election
year against the Republican nominee who is likely to be
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think it's it's going to be difficult to pull up,
but it's actually simple, and we have to go back
to the Cold War to understand what has to be done.
You and I both grew up in the shadow of
the Cold War, under the specter of the Soviet uni
and nuking us, and the theory that was used to
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kind of keep everyone at bay, to keep everyone from
going nuts, was mutually assured destruction. The Soviets knew that
if they launched the first strike, yeah, that's fine, but
before the missiles even landed here, they were going to
be obliterated because we had the ability to send just
as many nuclear missiles over there as they had to
send back to US. We also had a whole bunch
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of roving submarines around. We had second and third strike capability,
So everyone new, yeah, you know, if we wanted to,
we could launch a nuke right now, but the result
will be we are going to get everything that we
love nuke. That's how you have to play with the left.
They understand power and they understand warfare by other means,
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and unfortunately people on the right, especially the Republican leadership class,
seem allergic to actually fighting and doing things for the
country and for their voters. And Republican leaders, whether you're
a DA or a mayor, or a member of Congress,
or a mid level staffer, and a Republican administration. They
have to understand it until the Left is made to
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feel the pain of their own rules, until they suffer
under the double stand that they've created for us, they
will continue to press the boot down on our necks
until we can't even breathe anymore. So I would ask
Das in red counties and red cities, why have you
not indicted Hunter Biden? Why have you not puled Joe
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Biden before a grand jury and indicted him? Because we
clearly know that facts and law don't matter here. All
that matters is power. The Left is wielding it, and
if the right ever wants to have its country back,
if we ever want to have the rule of lawback,
we have to start playing by their rules until they
cry uncle. And the thing is, look, I would much
rather we have the status quo legally that we had
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twenty years ago, which is the law is what it
says it was. You get a fair and partial jury
of your peers, not a bunch of blue and on
pink haired freaks in San Francisco or Manhattan. But we
don't live in that world anymore. And Republicans need to
understand that the world has changed. It's not two thousand
and three, it's not nineteen ninety three. Reagan's not coming
over the horizon as the sun break to come save us,
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like we need wartime leaders who understand what time it is.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Up on the Federalists. There's a piece by I believe
it's John Davidson the culture war isn't the most important
issue of twenty twenty four, it's the only issue, and
he goes in to make the case, what do you
think about the role of what we generally termed culture
war for this upcoming election? What are the primary battlefields
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to fight on and how do we win?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Well? I agree with John. I think the culture war
is everything that used to mean ten or fifteen or
twenty years ago. That was code for abortion or religion.
But it's not anymore because the left has gained so
much ground that they are now infiltrating every aspect of
our lives. They want to ban gas stoves. Okay, that's
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the culture war. It's them trying to engineer how you live.
They're wanting to chop off kids Genitalia so that these
weird munch house and moms can get credit for having
a trans kid. They want to shove nonsensical, ahistorical racist
nonsense under the guise of critical race theory down the
throats of our kids in school. They're taking over college
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curriculums in colleges all over the country. They're wanting to
change the standards for hiring things like doctors and pilots,
which are two areas where you know, I want the
best person possible. I kind of don't care what they
look like or where they come from. I just want
to know that they're, you know, not going to slice
me up and kill me or fly into a mountain.
All these issues are the culture war. Whether you have
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the right to defend yourself, whether you actually have the
right to a jury of your peers, the border, these
are culture war issues, and they are everything because if
you don't have borders, if you don't have laws, if
you don't have the ability to raise your family and
your children and to defend them in the best way
you know possible, you don't have a free country. And unfortunately,
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a lot of people in the Republican Party just want
to wind the clock back twenty or thirty years and
pretend that the only thing we really disagree about is
tax rates, Like that's the debate they want to have
is how many tax credits should we have for corporations?
And should the top marginal rate be thirty five or
thirty six? Those days are over. What we are fighting
now is a battle for the existence of society as
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we've known it, for our constitutional order, and if people
on the right don't wise up, this thing's going to
be over before it ever even got started.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Jean, I want to ask you about some of the
Republicans that it seems to me every Republican I talk
to thinks is absolutely worthless and even despises, and yet
they keep getting elected. So, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, I
want to ask you how this happens and what can
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I talked to, Well, I should say when I talk
to people call in to me constantly, email me constantly,
and they're saying, you know, they complain about Lindsay Graham,
they complain about Mitch McConnell. They complain about the rhinos,
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and then I see it. I go, Okay, well people
are complaining about them, but these guys keep getting elected
all the time. Lindsay Graham's on Fox News every five minutes, Like,
what do we do? How am I supposed to explain
to them that as long as other Republicans keep voting
this way, nothing changes.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, it's really unfortunate, especially with McConnell and Graham, who
I think it both outlived their usefulness, at least in politics.
You know, it's discouraging to hear, but money and position matter,
and the machine matters. I think we learned that in
twenty twenty, and I really hope we would have learned
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that in twenty twenty two, that when you can control
the money and you control the machinery, especially in politics,
it's like ninety percent of the game. I mean, just
look what the left did with ballots. I don't think
the country was exactly clamoring for a status quo in
twenty twenty two. But you go in, you find the
right counties, you find the right swing districts, you throw
in enough money, you take over the right election offices,
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and as long as you can flood it with ballots,
you're fine. So I actually think we're facing some fundamental
crises in government and politics, especially representative government. Right now.
It's bigger than just the Republican Party. But Republicans need
to understand you've got to stop electing these losers who
are content to seem to just open the border and then,
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I don't know, maybe start a war they have no
plan to win or finish overseas, like they're both doing
in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
What is it with Ukraine with some Republicans where I understand,
you know it right for the left showan we expect
there to be the thing that they're all told, you know,
whether it's masking or trans eight year olds who need
hormones or whatever. Right, they go with what the herd,
the hive tells them to, and you has become one
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of these things, right. Ukraine's supposed to have a Ukraine
flag up and people couldn't probably still can't find Ukraine
on a map. Actually, all of a sudden, this is
the most important struggle in the history of America, And
I'm like, why, but why do this? Is the Republicans
that go along with this, I mean this sort of
ties into my previous question. Is it just because they
want Is it a donor cash issue? Is it a
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they think it's the nineteen eighties and we're just staring
down the evil empire again? Like what is this all about?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh? I think you nailed it. I think that's exactly
what it is. A theme I keep coming back to
is people in politics not knowing what time it is.
It's twenty twenty three, it's not nineteen eighty five. The
USSR is long gone, it was defeated, it fell under
its own weight. We have a very different regime in
Russia now it might be similarly evil. I'm not going
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to argue that Vladimir Putin is somehow a good guy
or that thinks they are awesome, But the Soviet Empire
is not the number one foe facing America right now.
It's China. And so it's odd to see so many
people who I once considered at least somewhat smart and
with it, act as though it's still the mid eighties
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and we're still fighting the Cold War. No, No, Russia
is a is a third rate ten pot oligarchy. In
Central in Eastern Europe and in Central Asia. It's not
this big behemoth with a whole bunch of weapons just
waiting to nukeas at any moment. That's China. It's not
Russia that's coming in and infiltrating our universities. That's China.
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It wasn't Russia that let loose a virus that killed
millions of people and then covered it up and lied
about it. That was China. Okay, it's not Russia that's
coming in and buying off politicians. That's China. So like
our problem here is China that is our number one
geopolitical foe. And the longer we busy ourselves with this
nonsense in Ukraine, meanwhile we're ignoring our own border. Somehow,
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Ukraine's border is the thing we have to care about,
But caring about America's borders is racist. You know, our
own country is falling apart. Our military is led by
a bunch of woke buffoons in the Pentagon, which is
why Afghanistan was such a debacle. And yet we somehow
think that if we're going to put all our energy
and focus on Ukraine that we can take on China.
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We couldn't even beat a bunch of seventh century goat
herders in Afghanistan, and it just boggles my mind how
anyone with a brain can look at the world as
it's constituted today and say, you know what, where we
really need to focus our energy and our treasure is Ukraine.
It's madness.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I want to get to the border in a second. First, though,
what do you think because I hear a lot of
people I was going to say, you know, Tucker a
lot on his show, but you know, not hearing it
these days, which has pissed off a lot of people.
I know you were a regular on that show. I
used to do Tuck her show a lot. And we're
all sitting here like, it is interesting that the most
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prominent anti interventionist voice on the right when it comes
to Ukraine has been sidelined, least for now. Put that
aside for a moment, but you know, I hear people saying, well,
I don't like what has gone on in Ukraine to
the degree that Biden and the corruption all that. Okay,
what is the what should the policy be?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Though?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It seems like everyone. I shouldn't say everyone. Most people
seem to agree. We don't put troops there, we don't
fight the Russians, directly, but then all of a sudden
it turns into we're gonna do a whole lot of
other stuff that comes pretty damn close to fighting the
Russians directly, and I hope the Russians don't notice. What
do you think the policy, If you're going to have
an America first Ukraine policy, what does it look like.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Well, I think that's an easy one. It's Europe needs
to clean up its own mess. You know, we have
been rolling in in fixing Europe's problems for about ninety
years now, and frankly, I'm kind of sick of it.
NATO anymore, although it was envisioned as a way of
himming in the Soviet Union, NATO anymore is really just
an excuse to fleece the US so a bunch of
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socialist European nations don't have to pay for their own defense.
So to me, the solution is easy, Europe, it's your
own damn backyard. Mix it yourself, police your own backyard,
polish your own continent, and leave us to deal with
the problems that we're facing here. And you'll hear a
lot of people say, well, if we don't confront Russia
and Ukraine, then China will take Taiwan. I'll tell you
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right now, the same lessons apply. Taiwan thinks we're going
to roll in there and ride to their rescue. So
what do Taiwan in Japan and South Korea do? They
just wait for US to clean up the mess there
and take care of it, because why get involved. It's
been your own money. If the US is just going
to come and throw in its weight behind it, we
were leave them of their own duty and obligation to
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take care of themselves by doing this nonsense where we
roll in and we clean up their messages for them.
So I would actually say, the longer run in Ukraine
and the more we backstop Europe, the more Taiwan and
in South Korea will say, you know what, we don't
really need to deal with China. We don't really need
to confront them. The US will take care of it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Je Al's talking about the border. In a second. I
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because it feels like it's as bad as it can be,
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I you know, I'm hoping not to be a pessivist here.
I'll trying to find the upside of things. But right now,
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for the country, I do think that when you look
at policy and the areas where there's dispute over where
we should go at how we should go forward as
a country, there's not a lot that's looking good at
this moment in time.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Economy is not looking good. We got this war, new
crime we're talking about, inflation is high. Crime in cities
is still way beyond what it should be based on
the numbers just a few years ago. But the border
may be the single biggest catastrophe. By the numbers and
the reality one hundred thousand plus people dying a fentyl overdoses.
People forget, Sean, there were something I think in the
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early two thousands it was like ten thousand people dying
a year from all opioid overdoses. Now it's over, and
I know there's some of it as other drugs, but
the fentanyl is seventy eighty percent and it's over one
hundred thousand, So we've seen an eight x increase in
this plus the millions of illegals coming in. I mean,
Title forty two ends this week. What happens now, Well.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
We go from a border that might still theoretically exist
to having one that's been completely dissolved. And this is
being done intentionally. The Left has decided that borders are racist,
that America is an idea and an economic zone, not
an actual defined area with set rules of law, and
they've just set about dissolving the border, dissolving the rule
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of law, and importing as many people as they think
will one day be part of their party as they can.
I mean, it's as simple as that. And I get
not wanting to be pessimistic, but I feel like at
this point in the American experiment, we kind of have
to look at the body politic like a doctor would
look at a patient who's sick. You need your doctor
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to examine you, take your blood, looks at your vitals,
and tell you the truth about what you're facing, whether
it might be cancer or liver disease, or heart disease
or something like that. And I feel like that's where
we are right now. We need to have a very
honest discussion and diagnosis of the body that is America
right now, because if we can't even agree on what
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the problems are, we're never going to fix them. And
so we need to be really honest and very frank
about what's happening. We are being besieged by the left.
It's waging its own mouse style cultural revolution on every
single front. They control the big companies, they control big tech,
they control academia, they control the military, they control the
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intel services, they control the government, they control Hollywood. Okay,
so it's not just the border. They are it seems
implementing the program that the Soviets tried and failed to
do during the Cold War to subvert all of our
institutions against us. And the right needs to wake up
and understand you either have to take these institutions back
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or you have to build up your own from scratch,
because the way they are now, they are going to
crush you. That's why cancel culture, why the obsession with
political correctness is so important, because the cultural power the
left has is the power to destroy you.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Right now, do you think that what Elon's doing over
at Twitter? People? Look, I've been among them. I felt
like at different times. Hold on a second, you know,
the shadow banning is still very much, whether it's the
algorithm or you know, there's some problem here with different accounts.
I think your account has had problems. I haven't seen
your account. I mean I follow you and follow you
for years. But do you think there's a broader plan
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here to have a beachhead in the digital tyranny that
the left has been able to get away with really
here for years? I mean, how do you see that?
I can't. I'm trying to find some trying to find
some some positive moments here. I mean, could he could
Elon turn Twitter into something that restores meaningful free speech online?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think he could. I think he genuinely wants to.
What I have been told by people inside is that
the situation there, both staff wise and with the programming,
and how the whole algorithm and services coded are so
much worse than than we suspected. And and the analogy
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that I've been given is is you know, they they're
going to need to rebuild that entire algorithm, But it's
akin to remodeling your entire house while you're hosting a
big party. You can't just start from scratch, build it
from scratch and be like today it's all done. You
have to do it while still keeping it functioning. And
people who I know are on our side very much
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have said, it's just a really difficult problem. He's committed
to it, he's just got to follow through it now.
So I, like you, I've been a critic. You know,
I was banned for reporting on the Nashville shooting accurately.
It took an act of our favorable oligarch over there
to get me unbanned. But you know, that's the situation
we're in now. We don't have free speech the likes
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of which you and I grew up with. We have
various oligarchs controlling different entities, and right now we have
one oligarch who seems to be somewhat on our side.
So it's not ideal. I'll take it because it's better
than having all of them a rayed against us.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I didn't even know about this. You were kicked off
of Twitter for reporting on the Nashville shooting.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Right, yeah, I was banned for I want to say,
the good part of a week, for sharing a news
story about the trans Day of Vengeance that was planned
just days after this went and decided to murder three
nine year olds and three Christian staff at the Covenant School.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Why do you think they haven't released as we speak now,
at least it's been over a month the thing that's
going on. Forty five days close to that, haven't released
this manifesto.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
We know exactly why I've been calling it the tranifesto,
because that's what it is. You have to understand that
the left feels like they have to control the narrative
at all costs. If they can control the narrative, they
can control results. And the narrative they want on shootings
is that guns are bad. Let's ban all the guns
because people we don't like are the ones who own
the guns. So you know that's generally what they fall
(28:38):
back on. But here you have a completely deranged, evil,
alleged transperson deliberately planning to go kill and target Christian
children because of their Christian faith. We know it's in
that manifesto. They know what's in it, and we know
exactly why they're not releasing it, and it just fascinates me. It's,
like you said, been forty five days since that came out,
(29:00):
but they somehow knew within an hour, they found this
new Hispanic white supremacist who is posting on Russian language
forums talking about lives of TikTok and Tim Poole, and boy,
you know, it just shows how militarized and radicalized these
right wingers are. They find all that crap in a
matter of hours, but they can't release this manifesto, which
(29:22):
we all know says what it says, which is that
this transgender ideology is being weaponized and targeted towards Christians
who have just had enough of this nonsensical ideology that
you can change your gender because you feel like you
were born in the wrong body.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Are they finally losing? You think the left on that
issue of transgenderism has the moment of pushback actually come
where they're no longer advancing and they're they're in a
meaningful retreat.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh, I think so. It's why you've seen so many
states pass these laws making it a crime to perform
these mutilations on children. I personally think they need to
ban them for everyone. You wouldn't allow elective amputations or
elective organ eviscerrations because it's just an awful off thing
to expect from a doctor in a healthcare system. There's
no reason we should be allowing it for genital stuff
(30:16):
minor or not. But I do think this is one
area where you know, you can con people on little
things for a while, but once you start telling him
that this hideous fat man with a beard and a
gut is actually a really beautiful, stunning, brave woman. And actually,
you know, we should be able to tell your kid
to go chop their genitals off secretly at school without
you knowing. It appears that that was a bridge too
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far for the left.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
If there's one issue Sean, I was gonna say, what
makes you feel positive? You know what, Let's just skip that.
Sean's a fighter, folks. Sean is feisty online, he is
he is a fighter in person, a pugilist. I think
we could say you're a pugilist in the ideological realm.
So give me this. Then, what's something that you think
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people need to on our side focus more on and
fight harder on? Right now?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think the best thing are side needs to do
is just say things that are true. There is the
Great Souls in It's an essay Living Not by Lies
that Rod Dryer popularized popularized in his book and in
it souls and it and says, but the lie has
to attach itself to someone to propagate. It's a parasite.
It can't live on its own. And you would be
(31:29):
shocked how subversive, how powerful it is for people to
just stand up and say I'm not going to be
a party to this. Conservatives and Republicans tend to be
generally quiet people who mind their own business. They just
want to be left alone. They're not the ones going
and protesting and having these these idiotic riots taking time
off from work to go pickt something. But they do
(31:49):
need to start realizing you might not care about the
culture war, but the culture war cares about conquering you,
and you have to stand up. Whether it's at your church,
a school board meeting, at a store advertising nonsense, whether
it's on the internet, whether it's at a baseball game.
People need to stop tolerating lies. The best thing they
can do for our country right now is to stop
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tolerating lies, because lies cannot exist without people allowing them.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
To Sean Davis, everybody follow him on Twitter at Sean
Davis and also go to the Federalist dot com anything Else,
Sean anything else, going to tell people who go check
out for what you're doing, well.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Definitely check out the Federalist this afternoon. We've got a
big breaking story about the Hunter Biden laptop letter coming
out in about fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Here there we go, all right, Sean Davis, everybody, Sean,
thanks so much, man, great to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Thanks sir,
You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Buck Sexton Show.
We are very pleased now to be joined by our
friend Sean Davis. He is the CEO of The Federalist,
which is one of my favorite sites of Federalist dot com.
Go check it out yourself. Sean pulls no punches, knows
lots of stuff. A very astute and feisty fellow, mister
(00:41):
Sean Davis. Good to have you on, Good to be on.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So as as we see here discussing this, you no
doubt saw that Donald Trump is now on the hook
for I think it's almost five million dollars because of
this Egene Carol suit civil suit in New York. He
was not found liable for rape, but he was for
defamation and a sexual assault, but not rising the level
(01:09):
of rape. Is my understanding of how this judgment came down.
I want your reaction to that. And then also, are
they gonna are they just going to basically tie this
guy up with lawsuits and criminal charges and all kinds
of stuff in a way that makes a mockery of
the entire judicial system. Like, what do you think the
plan is here for the law fair against Trump going
(01:31):
into twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh, however bad you think it is, I promise you
it's worse because it's not constrained to Trump. Now. Obviously
they're never going to leave him alone ever again, because
they're using him as an example to all other Republicans
that if you go off the reservation, if you don't
stay where you need to be, we will destroy you.
We'll come at you with grand jury's in Georgia and
(01:54):
New York. We'll have a special counsel at the Federal
DJ coming after you. You will never have a RESTful
night's sleep again. You will always wonder, You'll always be
looking over your back, wondering if we're coming, how we're
going to get you next. But here's the thing. It
doesn't stop at Donald Trump. It's not like they're going
to get rid of Donald Trump. And some have be like, okay,
back to an even playing field, No more shenanigans were good.
(02:18):
Just look at what they've done with J six. They
are criminalizing opposition itself to the regime. They're throwing in prison.
I think one guy for fourteen or fifteen years. He
never even entered the Capitol, he never even went into
the building on j six. They're trying to throw them,
put them away for fifteen years. So people need to
understand it doesn't matter if you hate Trump. This doesn't
(02:42):
stop with him. The left is insatiable. They want total control.
It's why they're coming after people's kids. It's why they're
coming after you on social media. It's why they're censoring you.
It's why they're throwing people in prison for a protest
while letting their own people set fire to cities across
the nation. They are criminalizing any opposition to their regime,
and people need to understand it's not about Trump, It's
(03:04):
about opposition to them. And if they can get Trump,
they can get anyone, including you.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Do think that they're going to try to not only
press additional criminal charges. I have to keep reminding it
almost sounds so crazy when you say it, right, they're
already trying to. They've launched what is it, thirty felonies
or something, or twenty four felonies in New York. The
most absurd. Now everyone keeps talking about how sort of is.
I worry that a New York jury. I mean, we
(03:31):
just saw one New York jury find against Trump in
a civil trial for which there was really no evidence.
It was just someone said something and the jury believed
this individual, right, I worry what the jury will do
in the you know, Trump hush money payoff case. But
there's also Atlanta where there's possible charges coming from that
(03:53):
district attorney who has it's pretty clear it would be
something about the election, maybe even racketeering or conspiracy to
commit election fraud. There's some crazy stuff that's being talked about.
And then there's a special council looking at January sixth
and everything else. I bring all that up, Sean, because
if they're willing to go to the mat on this
(04:13):
stuff and just burned down the village in order to
save it, right, why wouldn't they try to throw Trump
in prison? He has no immunity from prison.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Right now, I'm sure they're going to I mean, they
sent the Feds, an arm squad of Feds to his house,
which they had previously walked through and inspected with him,
raided his home, took pictures of it through it on
the internet. Went through his wife's clothes. Yeah, they want
(04:43):
this guy and anyone who backed him, and anyone who
poses them gone forever by hook or crook. And you
look at New York, you look at DC, you look
at Atlanta. There's a reason they're picking these venues, and
it's because the rule of law in these areas, in
these blue cities is debt. If you are a Republican,
you are getting convicted. If you are a Democrat and
(05:06):
somehow you end up being charged, you're walking away scott free.
I mean, just look at the situation with Michael Sussman.
This was the DNC and Clinton lawyer who was rung
up by Durham's investigation for peddling false statements to the
FBI about the Russian coclusion hoax. They rolled him into
a DC jury, which is where the crime had to
(05:28):
be charged because where it took place. And I think
they acquitted him like in a day, if not in hours,
with one of the jurors saying, I don't even know
why we're here. This is a waste of time. If
you have the right politics, if you're wearing a blue jersey,
you're safe in a blue city. Nothing will happen to you.
You could throw molotov cocktails at cops, you can burn
(05:48):
down buildings, you can threaten people on a subway. Nothing
is going to happen to you. But if you are
wearing a red jersey and you're a grammar and you
live out in the middle of nowhere, and you showed
up the wrong place at the wrong time, they will
destroy you.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know, Sean, I I want to ask you, because
people ask me this question all the time, Well, what
do we do given that we know what's coming? How
do we act? How do we counteract this, this plot,
this strategy that the Left is as unfolding right now
I think in front of us with twenty twenty four ahead.
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you think we do about what's coming? How do we
mobilize properly? Just on the issue of using the law
(07:30):
and the DOJ perhaps as a weapon in an election
year against the Republican nominee who is likely to be
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think it's it's going to be difficult to pull up,
but it's actually simple, and we have to go back
to the Cold War to understand what has to be done.
You and I both grew up in the shadow of
the Cold War, under the specter of the Soviet uni
and nuking us, and the theory that was used to
(08:01):
kind of keep everyone at bay, to keep everyone from
going nuts, was mutually assured destruction. The Soviets knew that
if they launched the first strike, yeah, that's fine, but
before the missiles even landed here, they were going to
be obliterated because we had the ability to send just
as many nuclear missiles over there as they had to
send back to US. We also had a whole bunch
(08:21):
of roving submarines around. We had second and third strike capability,
So everyone new, yeah, you know, if we wanted to,
we could launch a nuke right now, but the result
will be we are going to get everything that we
love nuke. That's how you have to play with the left.
They understand power and they understand warfare by other means,
(08:42):
and unfortunately people on the right, especially the Republican leadership class,
seem allergic to actually fighting and doing things for the
country and for their voters. And Republican leaders, whether you're
a DA or a mayor, or a member of Congress,
or a mid level staffer, and a Republican administration. They
have to understand it until the Left is made to
(09:04):
feel the pain of their own rules, until they suffer
under the double stand that they've created for us, they
will continue to press the boot down on our necks
until we can't even breathe anymore. So I would ask
Das in red counties and red cities, why have you
not indicted Hunter Biden? Why have you not puled Joe
(09:25):
Biden before a grand jury and indicted him? Because we
clearly know that facts and law don't matter here. All
that matters is power. The Left is wielding it, and
if the right ever wants to have its country back,
if we ever want to have the rule of lawback,
we have to start playing by their rules until they
cry uncle. And the thing is, look, I would much
rather we have the status quo legally that we had
(09:48):
twenty years ago, which is the law is what it
says it was. You get a fair and partial jury
of your peers, not a bunch of blue and on
pink haired freaks in San Francisco or Manhattan. But we
don't live in that world anymore. And Republicans need to
understand that the world has changed. It's not two thousand
and three, it's not nineteen ninety three. Reagan's not coming
over the horizon as the sun break to come save us,
(10:12):
like we need wartime leaders who understand what time it is.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Up on the Federalists. There's a piece by I believe
it's John Davidson the culture war isn't the most important
issue of twenty twenty four, it's the only issue, and
he goes in to make the case, what do you
think about the role of what we generally termed culture
war for this upcoming election? What are the primary battlefields
(10:40):
to fight on and how do we win?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Well? I agree with John. I think the culture war
is everything that used to mean ten or fifteen or
twenty years ago. That was code for abortion or religion.
But it's not anymore because the left has gained so
much ground that they are now infiltrating every aspect of
our lives. They want to ban gas stoves. Okay, that's
(11:03):
the culture war. It's them trying to engineer how you live.
They're wanting to chop off kids Genitalia so that these
weird munch house and moms can get credit for having
a trans kid. They want to shove nonsensical, ahistorical racist
nonsense under the guise of critical race theory down the
throats of our kids in school. They're taking over college
(11:25):
curriculums in colleges all over the country. They're wanting to
change the standards for hiring things like doctors and pilots,
which are two areas where you know, I want the
best person possible. I kind of don't care what they
look like or where they come from. I just want
to know that they're, you know, not going to slice
me up and kill me or fly into a mountain.
All these issues are the culture war. Whether you have
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the right to defend yourself, whether you actually have the
right to a jury of your peers, the border, these
are culture war issues, and they are everything because if
you don't have borders, if you don't have laws, if
you don't have the ability to raise your family and
your children and to defend them in the best way
you know possible, you don't have a free country. And unfortunately,
(12:06):
a lot of people in the Republican Party just want
to wind the clock back twenty or thirty years and
pretend that the only thing we really disagree about is
tax rates, Like that's the debate they want to have
is how many tax credits should we have for corporations?
And should the top marginal rate be thirty five or
thirty six? Those days are over. What we are fighting
now is a battle for the existence of society as
(12:28):
we've known it, for our constitutional order, and if people
on the right don't wise up, this thing's going to
be over before it ever even got started.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Jean, I want to ask you about some of the
Republicans that it seems to me every Republican I talk
to thinks is absolutely worthless and even despises, and yet
they keep getting elected. So, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, I
want to ask you how this happens and what can
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I talked to, Well, I should say when I talk
to people call in to me constantly, email me constantly,
and they're saying, you know, they complain about Lindsay Graham,
they complain about Mitch McConnell. They complain about the rhinos,
(14:22):
and then I see it. I go, Okay, well people
are complaining about them, but these guys keep getting elected
all the time. Lindsay Graham's on Fox News every five minutes, Like,
what do we do? How am I supposed to explain
to them that as long as other Republicans keep voting
this way, nothing changes.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, it's really unfortunate, especially with McConnell and Graham, who
I think it both outlived their usefulness, at least in politics.
You know, it's discouraging to hear, but money and position matter,
and the machine matters. I think we learned that in
twenty twenty, and I really hope we would have learned
(14:59):
that in twenty twenty two, that when you can control
the money and you control the machinery, especially in politics,
it's like ninety percent of the game. I mean, just
look what the left did with ballots. I don't think
the country was exactly clamoring for a status quo in
twenty twenty two. But you go in, you find the
right counties, you find the right swing districts, you throw
in enough money, you take over the right election offices,
(15:22):
and as long as you can flood it with ballots,
you're fine. So I actually think we're facing some fundamental
crises in government and politics, especially representative government. Right now.
It's bigger than just the Republican Party. But Republicans need
to understand you've got to stop electing these losers who
are content to seem to just open the border and then,
(15:43):
I don't know, maybe start a war they have no
plan to win or finish overseas, like they're both doing
in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
What is it with Ukraine with some Republicans where I understand,
you know it right for the left showan we expect
there to be the thing that they're all told, you know,
whether it's masking or trans eight year olds who need
hormones or whatever. Right, they go with what the herd,
the hive tells them to, and you has become one
(16:10):
of these things, right. Ukraine's supposed to have a Ukraine
flag up and people couldn't probably still can't find Ukraine
on a map. Actually, all of a sudden, this is
the most important struggle in the history of America, And
I'm like, why, but why do this? Is the Republicans
that go along with this, I mean this sort of
ties into my previous question. Is it just because they
want Is it a donor cash issue? Is it a
(16:33):
they think it's the nineteen eighties and we're just staring
down the evil empire again? Like what is this all about?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh? I think you nailed it. I think that's exactly
what it is. A theme I keep coming back to
is people in politics not knowing what time it is.
It's twenty twenty three, it's not nineteen eighty five. The
USSR is long gone, it was defeated, it fell under
its own weight. We have a very different regime in
Russia now it might be similarly evil. I'm not going
(17:01):
to argue that Vladimir Putin is somehow a good guy
or that thinks they are awesome, But the Soviet Empire
is not the number one foe facing America right now.
It's China. And so it's odd to see so many
people who I once considered at least somewhat smart and
with it, act as though it's still the mid eighties
(17:22):
and we're still fighting the Cold War. No, No, Russia
is a is a third rate ten pot oligarchy. In
Central in Eastern Europe and in Central Asia. It's not
this big behemoth with a whole bunch of weapons just
waiting to nukeas at any moment. That's China. It's not
Russia that's coming in and infiltrating our universities. That's China.
(17:44):
It wasn't Russia that let loose a virus that killed
millions of people and then covered it up and lied
about it. That was China. Okay, it's not Russia that's
coming in and buying off politicians. That's China. So like
our problem here is China that is our number one
geopolitical foe. And the longer we busy ourselves with this
nonsense in Ukraine, meanwhile we're ignoring our own border. Somehow,
(18:08):
Ukraine's border is the thing we have to care about,
But caring about America's borders is racist. You know, our
own country is falling apart. Our military is led by
a bunch of woke buffoons in the Pentagon, which is
why Afghanistan was such a debacle. And yet we somehow
think that if we're going to put all our energy
and focus on Ukraine that we can take on China.
(18:30):
We couldn't even beat a bunch of seventh century goat
herders in Afghanistan, and it just boggles my mind how
anyone with a brain can look at the world as
it's constituted today and say, you know what, where we
really need to focus our energy and our treasure is Ukraine.
It's madness.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I want to get to the border in a second. First, though,
what do you think because I hear a lot of
people I was going to say, you know, Tucker a
lot on his show, but you know, not hearing it
these days, which has pissed off a lot of people.
I know you were a regular on that show. I
used to do Tuck her show a lot. And we're
all sitting here like, it is interesting that the most
(19:11):
prominent anti interventionist voice on the right when it comes
to Ukraine has been sidelined, least for now. Put that
aside for a moment, but you know, I hear people saying, well,
I don't like what has gone on in Ukraine to
the degree that Biden and the corruption all that. Okay,
what is the what should the policy be?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Though?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It seems like everyone. I shouldn't say everyone. Most people
seem to agree. We don't put troops there, we don't
fight the Russians, directly, but then all of a sudden
it turns into we're gonna do a whole lot of
other stuff that comes pretty damn close to fighting the
Russians directly, and I hope the Russians don't notice. What
do you think the policy, If you're going to have
an America first Ukraine policy, what does it look like.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Well, I think that's an easy one. It's Europe needs
to clean up its own mess. You know, we have
been rolling in in fixing Europe's problems for about ninety
years now, and frankly, I'm kind of sick of it.
NATO anymore, although it was envisioned as a way of
himming in the Soviet Union, NATO anymore is really just
an excuse to fleece the US so a bunch of
(20:14):
socialist European nations don't have to pay for their own defense.
So to me, the solution is easy, Europe, it's your
own damn backyard. Mix it yourself, police your own backyard,
polish your own continent, and leave us to deal with
the problems that we're facing here. And you'll hear a
lot of people say, well, if we don't confront Russia
and Ukraine, then China will take Taiwan. I'll tell you
(20:36):
right now, the same lessons apply. Taiwan thinks we're going
to roll in there and ride to their rescue. So
what do Taiwan in Japan and South Korea do? They
just wait for US to clean up the mess there
and take care of it, because why get involved. It's
been your own money. If the US is just going
to come and throw in its weight behind it, we
were leave them of their own duty and obligation to
(20:58):
take care of themselves by doing this nonsense where we
roll in and we clean up their messages for them.
So I would actually say, the longer run in Ukraine
and the more we backstop Europe, the more Taiwan and
in South Korea will say, you know what, we don't
really need to deal with China. We don't really need
to confront them. The US will take care of it.
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Je Al's talking about the border. In a second. I
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because it feels like it's as bad as it can be,
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I you know, I'm hoping not to be a pessivist here.
I'll trying to find the upside of things. But right now,
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for the country, I do think that when you look
at policy and the areas where there's dispute over where
we should go at how we should go forward as
a country, there's not a lot that's looking good at
this moment in time.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Economy is not looking good. We got this war, new
crime we're talking about, inflation is high. Crime in cities
is still way beyond what it should be based on
the numbers just a few years ago. But the border
may be the single biggest catastrophe. By the numbers and
the reality one hundred thousand plus people dying a fentyl overdoses.
People forget, Sean, there were something I think in the
(23:15):
early two thousands it was like ten thousand people dying
a year from all opioid overdoses. Now it's over, and
I know there's some of it as other drugs, but
the fentanyl is seventy eighty percent and it's over one
hundred thousand, So we've seen an eight x increase in
this plus the millions of illegals coming in. I mean,
Title forty two ends this week. What happens now, Well.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
We go from a border that might still theoretically exist
to having one that's been completely dissolved. And this is
being done intentionally. The Left has decided that borders are racist,
that America is an idea and an economic zone, not
an actual defined area with set rules of law, and
they've just set about dissolving the border, dissolving the rule
(24:01):
of law, and importing as many people as they think
will one day be part of their party as they can.
I mean, it's as simple as that. And I get
not wanting to be pessimistic, but I feel like at
this point in the American experiment, we kind of have
to look at the body politic like a doctor would
look at a patient who's sick. You need your doctor
(24:21):
to examine you, take your blood, looks at your vitals,
and tell you the truth about what you're facing, whether
it might be cancer or liver disease, or heart disease
or something like that. And I feel like that's where
we are right now. We need to have a very
honest discussion and diagnosis of the body that is America
right now, because if we can't even agree on what
(24:42):
the problems are, we're never going to fix them. And
so we need to be really honest and very frank
about what's happening. We are being besieged by the left.
It's waging its own mouse style cultural revolution on every
single front. They control the big companies, they control big tech,
they control academia, they control the military, they control the
(25:02):
intel services, they control the government, they control Hollywood. Okay,
so it's not just the border. They are it seems
implementing the program that the Soviets tried and failed to
do during the Cold War to subvert all of our
institutions against us. And the right needs to wake up
and understand you either have to take these institutions back
(25:23):
or you have to build up your own from scratch,
because the way they are now, they are going to
crush you. That's why cancel culture, why the obsession with
political correctness is so important, because the cultural power the
left has is the power to destroy you.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Right now, do you think that what Elon's doing over
at Twitter? People? Look, I've been among them. I felt
like at different times. Hold on a second, you know,
the shadow banning is still very much, whether it's the
algorithm or you know, there's some problem here with different accounts.
I think your account has had problems. I haven't seen
your account. I mean I follow you and follow you
for years. But do you think there's a broader plan
(26:00):
here to have a beachhead in the digital tyranny that
the left has been able to get away with really
here for years? I mean, how do you see that?
I can't. I'm trying to find some trying to find
some some positive moments here. I mean, could he could
Elon turn Twitter into something that restores meaningful free speech online?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think he could. I think he genuinely wants to.
What I have been told by people inside is that
the situation there, both staff wise and with the programming,
and how the whole algorithm and services coded are so
much worse than than we suspected. And and the analogy
(26:44):
that I've been given is is you know, they they're
going to need to rebuild that entire algorithm, But it's
akin to remodeling your entire house while you're hosting a
big party. You can't just start from scratch, build it
from scratch and be like today it's all done. You
have to do it while still keeping it functioning. And
people who I know are on our side very much
(27:05):
have said, it's just a really difficult problem. He's committed
to it, he's just got to follow through it now.
So I, like you, I've been a critic. You know,
I was banned for reporting on the Nashville shooting accurately.
It took an act of our favorable oligarch over there
to get me unbanned. But you know, that's the situation
we're in now. We don't have free speech the likes
(27:25):
of which you and I grew up with. We have
various oligarchs controlling different entities, and right now we have
one oligarch who seems to be somewhat on our side.
So it's not ideal. I'll take it because it's better
than having all of them a rayed against us.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I didn't even know about this. You were kicked off
of Twitter for reporting on the Nashville shooting.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Right, yeah, I was banned for I want to say,
the good part of a week, for sharing a news
story about the trans Day of Vengeance that was planned
just days after this went and decided to murder three
nine year olds and three Christian staff at the Covenant School.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Why do you think they haven't released as we speak now,
at least it's been over a month the thing that's
going on. Forty five days close to that, haven't released
this manifesto.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
We know exactly why I've been calling it the tranifesto,
because that's what it is. You have to understand that
the left feels like they have to control the narrative
at all costs. If they can control the narrative, they
can control results. And the narrative they want on shootings
is that guns are bad. Let's ban all the guns
because people we don't like are the ones who own
the guns. So you know that's generally what they fall
(28:38):
back on. But here you have a completely deranged, evil,
alleged transperson deliberately planning to go kill and target Christian
children because of their Christian faith. We know it's in
that manifesto. They know what's in it, and we know
exactly why they're not releasing it, and it just fascinates me. It's,
like you said, been forty five days since that came out,
(29:00):
but they somehow knew within an hour, they found this
new Hispanic white supremacist who is posting on Russian language
forums talking about lives of TikTok and Tim Poole, and boy,
you know, it just shows how militarized and radicalized these
right wingers are. They find all that crap in a
matter of hours, but they can't release this manifesto, which
(29:22):
we all know says what it says, which is that
this transgender ideology is being weaponized and targeted towards Christians
who have just had enough of this nonsensical ideology that
you can change your gender because you feel like you
were born in the wrong body.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Are they finally losing? You think the left on that
issue of transgenderism has the moment of pushback actually come
where they're no longer advancing and they're they're in a
meaningful retreat.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh, I think so. It's why you've seen so many
states pass these laws making it a crime to perform
these mutilations on children. I personally think they need to
ban them for everyone. You wouldn't allow elective amputations or
elective organ eviscerrations because it's just an awful off thing
to expect from a doctor in a healthcare system. There's
no reason we should be allowing it for genital stuff
(30:16):
minor or not. But I do think this is one
area where you know, you can con people on little
things for a while, but once you start telling him
that this hideous fat man with a beard and a
gut is actually a really beautiful, stunning, brave woman. And actually,
you know, we should be able to tell your kid
to go chop their genitals off secretly at school without
you knowing. It appears that that was a bridge too
(30:38):
far for the left.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
If there's one issue Sean, I was gonna say, what
makes you feel positive? You know what, Let's just skip that.
Sean's a fighter, folks. Sean is feisty online, he is
he is a fighter in person, a pugilist. I think
we could say you're a pugilist in the ideological realm.
So give me this. Then, what's something that you think
(31:00):
people need to on our side focus more on and
fight harder on? Right now?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think the best thing are side needs to do
is just say things that are true. There is the
Great Souls in It's an essay Living Not by Lies
that Rod Dryer popularized popularized in his book and in
it souls and it and says, but the lie has
to attach itself to someone to propagate. It's a parasite.
It can't live on its own. And you would be
(31:29):
shocked how subversive, how powerful it is for people to
just stand up and say I'm not going to be
a party to this. Conservatives and Republicans tend to be
generally quiet people who mind their own business. They just
want to be left alone. They're not the ones going
and protesting and having these these idiotic riots taking time
off from work to go pickt something. But they do
(31:49):
need to start realizing you might not care about the
culture war, but the culture war cares about conquering you,
and you have to stand up. Whether it's at your church,
a school board meeting, at a store advertising nonsense, whether
it's on the internet, whether it's at a baseball game.
People need to stop tolerating lies. The best thing they
can do for our country right now is to stop
(32:12):
tolerating lies, because lies cannot exist without people allowing them.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
To Sean Davis, everybody follow him on Twitter at Sean
Davis and also go to the Federalist dot com anything Else,
Sean anything else, going to tell people who go check
out for what you're doing, well.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Definitely check out the Federalist this afternoon. We've got a
big breaking story about the Hunter Biden laptop letter coming
out in about fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Here there we go, all right, Sean Davis, everybody, Sean,
thanks so much, man, great to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Thanks sir,
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