Bucksline Hour 2 11-06-2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back our number two of bucks Line. Matt McCoy,
Bill Conley will be coming up at about a half
hour with No. Nine Enemy on the Pretty boiler Makers
Roy Hall this year Jeff Logan here as we take
your calls and comments. Got a lot of great interaction
during the week at my Twitter handle at Matt McCoy
radio and also on emails Matt McCoy at iHeartMedia dot com.

(00:22):
I did want to bring up with you guys. I
mentioned this before the start of this hour. So there
was the second play of the second half last week
was a fifty seven yard completion to Carnell Tate, And
there was a great post by Bill Landis, who does
a podcast, Kings of the North podcast with Doug Lee Maurice.

(00:46):
It's very popular and if you haven't heard it, it's
really good. They've basically vouched for North. It's Kings of
the North because they vouched for Northern football instead of
all the SEC bias and it's obviously Ohio State centric.
But he noticed that on that play, like right after
Julian Saying takes the snap and sets up in the pocket,
you hear from the sideline, you hear Ryan Day yell

(01:08):
got him and then the ball goes in the air
and he hits it. And then Ryan Day, you know,
got asked about that and he kind of laughed and
he said, well, he was excited about it, Jeff, because
it was a play they had not practiced. They saw
the look in the first half and said this will work.
And he said, you know, we do concepts of stuff

(01:29):
in the spring and then during fall camp, but that
specific play and what we did, we just put it
on the board and did it at halftime. And you know,
you get excited when you see something and it works out.
So my question is, because I've never been Bill in
a meeting room and Roy as a player and Jeff,

(01:50):
how does that? Who sees it? Who sees is that?
Ryan Day? Is that a collaborative thing? To Brian hartline
up there? You know, hey, this is gonna work. And
what did they see? What was it?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Roy?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
You started the show saying, if you're in cover two,
you know the way to beat that is to run
guys at the safety. Is that what they saw? What
do you think, Jeff, they saw? And then how to
manifest itself on Saturday. That's a great question.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
And with with all the immediate feedback they are getting
now with the tablets and everything, you know, you can
see much more quicker stuff than you have ever been
able to see before in terms of making adjustments. So
h my feeling is it was something that came really
clear to somebody on the offensive staff that was up
in the press.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Box exactly come from upstairs.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Ye as opposed to a player. We've heard players before
say you know I can beat this guy.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
You remember the famous clip in the National Championship game
with the Mecca Buka say we got to run a
go route at you know whatever they and then and
they did it in Tremia Smith to win the game.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
But Roy, from an execution standpoint, that's a bigger deal.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
I got two analogies on this.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
Number one, And anybody ever been stuck in traffic, The
best thing in the world when you get stuck in
traffic is if you know an alternative route, like without
the GPS and be like, oh, they're backed up on
seventy one.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Oh I can cut through there this side street. Boom
boom boom, boom boom. It's like, well, how'd you know that?

Speaker 6 (03:16):
It's like, man, I've seen it before, right, Like I've
seen this happen before and I found out and so
that's a that's a great way from an offensive coordinator.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
And you're tires. They got like one hundred people on staff.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
By the way, I don't know all these who these
people are, but they just got people everywhere, so you know,
you got different eyes and it'say, hey man, and a
lot of times and coach, you know, this guy's got
ideas all the time and halftime like hey man, we
should do this, we should do that.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
And most of the time it's like yeah, okay, okay, okay,
okay okay, and you never get to them.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
But every once in a while you'll have somebody that's
animated enough that says, hey man, we got to get
after this guy and this this will work. And it's
one of those If it works, you get a got them.
If it doesn't work, like that's the stupidest idea, we
will never listen to the coach in the Ohio state
shirt ever again.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
So it works that way.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
The other one I was thinking of I recently, so
they got these limited My second favorite candy right now
are these nerd clusters and they have this cherry lemonade
Nerd clustered limited edition situation, and so I got a
couple packages of.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Them on Amazon.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
I got like two, and then I bought them, and
then I went back on Amazon and they were sold out.
And then I went back on Amazon, and then somebody
was selling them for like twenty five dollars a bag,
and they were originally like three dollars because they were
so limited. So I went back on Amazon today, like
a week later, and they were a regular price again.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
So just like Ryan Day got about seventeen of them,
got them like I got them, and I was ready
to go. You just got to take advantage.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
Man, when you see something that you haven't seen a
long time and you feel like you can you can
get a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Off of it.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, so you can be guaranteed what happened. Time coaches
get in there and they won't get all their heads together.
Make sure they're on the same page. This is why
I saw. This is what they did. We can do
this and they like it, then they will convey it
to the players and when they meet with those guys
where they go back out second half. And you know,

(05:17):
here's an advantage too of the helmet camp, the communication
communication system, because now if he gets a look, come out,
it's there.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, you just tell.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Them go yes, go.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Well, you're not limited by what you can communicate to
your quarterback. I mean, only one guy can wear the
green dot and he's getting the message. You're just limited
on how much time you have to do exactly. I
mean all the way down to what fifteen seconds. But
think of how you can communicate with your quarterback. You know,
we're going to do the X Y Z play, but

(05:55):
look over there and you go off on something different.
If you get this look, make sure you throw it there.
We've never had that kind of communication before. It was
always holding up those stupid cards on the sidelines so
that Connor Stallions can figure out exactly what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Right, Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, the funny thing about that particular play, Jeff, when
we were watching it development and you know, we saw
that it was there, but Will Kasmerrick was running in
the same area as a tight end and we were like,
well that that probably isn't how it was drawn up.
And now I like understand why, Like he like, there
could have been who hadn't practiced the play right.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
So in my opinion, he should have released that safety
inside and went to the other safety, so that that
the safety that made the tackle. If our tight end
goes and crosses his face and goes to the other safety,
then that guy doesn't make the tackle because he's the
guy that kind of spun out of it and made
the tackle. I don't necessarily think that. I know it
was a play that they had and drew up. I
think coach Day was just looking at the corner and

(06:56):
saw him like he bit.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
To the outside. All it was was a goat like
almost a post route.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
He ran a post step on his toes, gave a
nod outside and just broke like it was.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Nothing complicated about the route. And if you're that's if
you watch one on ones.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
You're like, got him is like normal, Like he got
our guy got him.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
But it seemed like that play was.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Just like a post like a double post situation with
the tight end that they probably hadn't done having the
tie and he literally ran on the house side.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
I felt he should have crossed his face, but it
still worked out.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, for sure. I made the comment to Matter as
soon as we saw the play.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I said that that was terrific, but that tight end
was in the wrong, wrong place.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, that's yeah. How often when you guys play, do
you do you line up at the line of scrimmage
or building the coaches box and go, God, if we
execute this is a touchdown?

Speaker 5 (07:47):
You know?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Does that happen where you you know exactly, you get
the look exactly that you want and you line up
and you're like, we've got it, we got him, so
to speak.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, then hopefully they'll execute it, right.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah. Well, the one that comes to mind, like the
twenty sixteen Michigan game, the winning touchdown and overtime by
Curtis Samuel. I remember in the postgame interviews, Pat Elflyne,
who was the center, came up to the line of scrimmage.
You knew what the play call was, and he said,
I saw how Michigan was lying, and I was like,
we're not. We're about to win the game. Like he like,
you know so, and you know, he ran in fifteen

(08:25):
yards for a touchdown.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
What I thought it was interesting is in college football
you actually do make adjustments. I don't know if you
guys saw the interview enviral with Peyton Manning talking one
day and it was like, so, Peyton man at halftime, man,
you guys make halftime adjustments.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
You know what I mean, what are some of the
half What is halftime? Look?

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Peyton looked around his old camera. He's like, halftime adjustments.
He was like, halftime, you just go in and get
some oranges and bananas or something you eat.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Everybody says let's go and you go back out on
the field. There's no halftime adjustments. He was like, that's overrated.
Nobody makes adjustments at halftime. You go in, you get
a couple of snacks, and you go back to the
It is like that.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
In the NFL. College football you can make some real
adjustments though.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, for sure. From Twitter, I'm sorry. From email, I'm sorry.
This is an email from our friend Dale. I was
lucky enough to get tickets to the game Saturday. It
was my first game in two years. I had some
observations i'd like to share. I did wear black and
thought the blackout worked even though it was an afternoon game.
I also want to commend the crowd. I thought they
were great from beginning to end. My only negative is

(09:26):
there's too much downtime at games. There were too many
timeouts and they were too long. I know that's largely
because of television. But it takes a lot of energy
away Go bucks Dale sitting there at times, Dale, even
in the press box where we're not among the crowd,
and feeling the energy quite like you are. Man, there
are those timeouts are it's awful. It's awful.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And they've tried to make it better by having the
little timeout clock on the field so that at least
the fans and the officials could know how much time
is left in the television timeout.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
But you're right, it is.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It has lengthened the time of the game, though they
have shortened the number of plays in the game.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
So think about that from a fan experience.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
You're seeing less offense than you've ever seen before in
a period of time that's as long as it's ever
been before. So we're giving you the you know, the
same length of a broadcast, but we're giving you less
meat on your sandwich. And I don't think Roy going
through anybody's drive through would accept less meat on your sandwich.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yeah, that's that's a problem because all the sandwiches now
are ten times smaller than they used to be.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Remember a whopper used to be hard to hold. It
takes two hands to handle a lot anymore issue and.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
Shrunk, I mean, this conversation just sounds really crazy.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Now, Shrunk you could tell you can tell it. Shrinking
hands and the size of sandwiches.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
This is a problem either way, Like it's just not
it's not what it used to be made.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, and the clock change rules came because games were
too long, but not because the games were too long,
but because there was too many time outs built in
TV timeouts.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Now, yes, and that added to the like.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now you get these they're going back checking place. Yeah,
that adds even more time.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, exactly what's funny is who just made that comment?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Dale?

Speaker 6 (11:26):
So Dale made that comment, but Andre was on the
other side. Andre was saying, like the fans were involved,
everybody's loving it.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, Dale said the fans were evolved, but he's just
saying like it's just a too like using the timeout
spaces and different things like different fan experience.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, for sure, if Dale hadn't been to a game
in a long time, I'm sure that's one of the
takeaways that you would have, is all of the debt time, Yeah,
that is there.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, for sure. Our friend Barry, who by the way,
we do bold predictions on the pregame show just out
of the ordinary stuff and Barry and there's a couple
others that will tweet me their bold predictions. Shout out
to Barry. He nailed his last week. He said there
would be three Ohio State players that would have one
hundred yard games, you know, a combination of running backs

(12:11):
and or receivers. And both receivers Tate and Jeremiah went
over one hundred and Bo Jackson in the fourth quarter
got over one hundred yards rushing. So Barry nailed it.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
But he realized by saying that we'll have to check
him every week.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Now.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, I know he will definitely be sending them in.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's right. But Barry said, while saying still needs repped reps,
how important do you think it is to get link
in more game action? And who do you think it's
a c note this week? Is it Max Claire? Obviously
going against his former schooling that'd be nice.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
For them to show off Max Claire. I wonder if
there's a little bit of tension there, you know, from
his former teammates.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
What's interesting though, is I did not realize I saw
the interview with Kelly Ann Stitz of ABC six did
with Max Clairy esterday. Max Clerk's a younger brother, is
a tight end for Purdue and is running the scout team.
He is Max Claire this week. Yeah, but I wonder,
I mean, I don't know. He bailed on them for

(13:12):
the right opportunity.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
You know, he wants to get to the league, he
wants to get better, new coach, new deal, good opportunity
for Max Claire to come in. I'm just curious if
there's guys on your team that are like, you quit
on us.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
It probably your mice off.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But with the niopis,
I think the transfer portal and people leaving is not
that more of a deal.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Now.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
It's probably guys at PURDUEA are playing tight end, Like man,
if I can just have a great year like Max
did the year before, I can go to Ohio State too.
You know, they're probably thinking the same thing now. Max
is probably thinking of some guys that he wants to
go at on the defensive side to show, you know,
to show them what he can still do. Obviously, but
he had to make the best decision for him, and

(13:57):
I think he's looking forward to playing against his old team.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
But you know, what they brought in fifty four transfers. Yeah,
the only two starters a quarterback and a running back
that got hurt.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah, is out for the year.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, and so he probably knows his brother and about
another dozen guys. That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
That's true, the way that roster turned in terms of
getting Lincoln Keyenolds reps. I did notice, like in the
fourth quarter, we thought, well, Julian's going to come out
of the game, but they didn't. They left him in
the entire game, I mean, mostly to hand off at
the end of the game. But I don't know, I
don't know how you judged that, you know, when Lincoln
needs to get in, I don't know, Well, those weren't
going to be meaningful reps for Lincoln Keenholtz, and so

(14:42):
you know, just keeping your guys in the game at
that point probably makes some sense, even though they weren't
trying to add any more points on the scoreboard. But
I think it's a full go Julian at this stage.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
So yeah, and you know why Keenols might not get
as many reps as he would normally.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Now talk about Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's true. Yep, any little you know, extra touchdown pass
or twenty extra yards passing doesn't hurt all right, Going
to take a break, come back and take more of
your calls and comments after this. Bucks Line continues on
six to ten WTVN Matt McCoy, Bill Conley coming up
in about ten minutes with Noline Enemy about the Preduy Boilermakers,

(15:27):
Roy Hall, Jeff Logan with you. Thanks again for all
your comments.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
To me at.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
At Matt McCoy radio on Twitter and also email Matt
McCoy at iHeartMedia dot com. This is from Mark, question
for the panel about the college football playoff rankings. They
came out this week. Ohio State number one. They're actually
very similar the CFP rankings to the rankings of both
the coaches and the AP poles. But would you rather

(15:54):
have Ohio State behind Indiana? I prefer not having that
number one pro Also, there are nine SEC teams in
the top twenty five. Do you think they deserve that
or is the committee bringing its SEC hype? And that
is from Mark. I don't think I'll say this being
number one or number two. You know, if you ask me,

(16:17):
like under a bright light, I would have kind of
liked to see in Indiana as number one just because.
But I don't think Ohio State cares. I don't think
Ryan Day cares. What his comment when he got asked
about before the rankings came out, Hey, you know college
football rankings come out, what are your thoughts? And he
literally said whatever, and then he doesn't matter. Then yeah,

(16:39):
he went on and said it just doesn't matter at
this point. So is there more pressure being I don't
know that that matters at all to Ohio State right now.
I don't think so. Not yet.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I don't think that's the issue. I mean, this was
the first blush. I think the teams that are really
concerned or paying attention to it are those teams that
are maybe ten through.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Twenty trying to get into that time. How do I
get in the dam?

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, they're not worried about it right. First of all,
we will were the A seed nine seed last year.
The ranking is not going to matter. And then the
games ahead of us, we know we got to play Michigan,
we know we're probably gonna have to play Indiana, and.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Those things will shake out for them.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
So if you start thinking about the rankings now and
you're one of those top tier, you're not focused to
your point, if you're a two loss team already, you
absolutely care, you know. I love his response to that, like, man, like,
we don't. At this point, We've already done this fifteen
sixteen game gauntlet, right so we already know what is
going to take and we're only halfway through our season

(17:34):
right now.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, well, look at all the rival games yet to
be played usually the last week of the season or
conference championship games.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
So a lot of things is the SEC is nine
teams too many for one conference in the top twenty five.
I'll say this about the SEC. I do think that
there are more decent they're deeper. I don't know that
they have have you know, I think Ohio State, Alabama,

(18:03):
Ohio State, Georgi would be great games Ole Miss. I'll
throw in there, A and M obviously is you know
right there. So there are teams that I think that
could beat the Ohio States in Indiana's but I don't
know that the Big Ten I think they're nine deep
because they're just maybe a deeper league than the Big
Ten right now that they have nine ranked teams.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
The loss of Penn State, yes in that mix, perhaps
a little bit. Guys, And you know the same thing
could be said, Washington, what they just got into the
top twenty five, right, and then people have been ignoring
them Illinois where you know where you know USC and
and some of those that you expect to be you know,
ongoing juggernauts or not not carrying their weight, I guess,

(18:45):
is my point.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, but look how many teams are in the for example,
in the Big Ten and in the SEC. That's a
lot of college football. Then you throw the ACC in there,
I mean, who's left?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the ACC's highest ranked team, like you
talk about the the top twelve obviously get in the playoff.
Their highest ranked team is fourteen, so they would get
in only because one ACC team is required to get in.
So for example, right now, if you're you know, if
the playoffs were today, you've got Texas and Oklahoma that

(19:16):
are eleven and twelve. Neither of them would get in
because Virginia would have to get in at number fourteen
because the ACC needs a team and also a group
of five team, which by the way, there are none
in the top twenty five. Like the first round matchup
right now would be Georgia against Memphis because Georgia would
be the five seed which would be huggling.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I don't either. I take the twelve best teams.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
Just take the twelve best Like it's just everybody gets
a trophy mentality, Like listen, you're a group of five team,
Like you don't just get to go and hang out
and play in it.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Like you just don't get to do that.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Like last year they added deserving one with Boise. Boise
was good, they but if you if you don't have one.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
One of the most agitating things growing up is when
you had all your friends playing backyard football and one
of them had to bring their snotty nosed little brother
along and like, man, get this little four or five
year old kid out of here that we had.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
And then the mom is like you better let him play,
and you're like, you got to be kidding me. His kids.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Then he gets hurt, right, and then everybody was like, well,
he's just a little kid. It's like he shouldn't be
out here anyway. It's just terrible, man, you shouldn't put
those guys in way.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's like it's like the high school playoffs. Look, they
change that because.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Of one nine versus ten, and oh yeah, what are
we doing?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Exactly all right, The time has come. Bill Conley's No
Thine Enemy coming up about the PERDW boiler Makers. It
is on the way next on six natv N. Welcome
back to box Line Matt McCoy with Bill Conley, Jeff Logan,
Roy Hall, Bill's No Thine Enemy on the way. But Roy,
you got some shout outs.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Number one, I want to say happy birthday to my
sister who Sonya, and she turned forty one today, so.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
That was twenty years ago that she was twenty actually,
just to.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Make just make sure she's in Ohio State graduate as well.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
And we're actually forty one.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
We're the same we're eleven months apart or so, so
we are the same age for approximately thirty one or
thirty two days because my birthday is on December eighth.
And then also I wanted to send a huge shout
out and thank you for being an amazing listener, consistent
listener to my guy. Jacob Wagner met his dad, Ron
Wagner at Colonel Crawford Middle and High School and found

(21:41):
out that Jacob loves this show.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
His favorite segment is actually No Dye Enemy.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
And Jacob smart kid.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Yeah, man, Jacob so.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
We appreciate you, man, proud of all your hard work
and effort on a day to day basis. Man, stay driven,
keep plugging away, and just know that we were thinking
about you.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
So yeah again, Jeff, who's your friend that actually lives
out of state and tunes in online every South Carolina
South Carolina to listen to Bill's Well.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
And Dave m just tried to send me a note
about his own bold prediction. He says, you're going to
hang fifty five on Purdue, And I got to tell Dave,
that's not a bold prediction. Now, you got If it's
fifty five at a halftime, then I'll give you the
bold prediction day, but not fifty five against Purdue.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, they wouldn't let me, by the way have and
he didn't get it anyway, Julian Sane rushing touchdown because
you guys said that a quarterback sneak doesn't count exactly.
So yeah, there are always restrictions on our know thine enemy,
Bill standing by with no thine enemy laid on us?

Speaker 4 (22:49):
All right, we got to go.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
First season eighteen eighty seven, the Boilermakers lost the Butler
forty eight to six.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Boy, they were so series about that.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
They didn't play football for two years and they started
playing again right nineteen oh three, one of the great
tragedies and college sports occurred. The teams that were at Purdue.
Their rival was Indiana, and they had all these problems
in the first few games they played each other. So
what they do the presidence of the university side, we

(23:22):
got to go to neutral site, Indiannapolis. So both teams
had to send their players by train via you know,
via train to go to Indiannapolis. Well, what happened. They
had so many people that wanted to go on Purdue.
The train was kind of late leaving. They had players
in the front cars, administrators and boosters in the second,

(23:44):
and fans in the third. Fifteen hundred fans on this train.
Boom takes off. It's going in in Annapolis.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
In the yards.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
They didn't get this is a special train. They didn't
everybody get the message. Wasn't there There was coal cars
full of coal on the track.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Oh no, yes, goes.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Around and ben boom the engine and the player car
went over top of the coal cars. The player's car
was made of wood because they had to get extra
cars to go.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
It's exploded.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Celebrated fourteen players and three other people lost their lives.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Gone.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
One guy flew through a window of the train, landed
on his feet, didn't get hurt at all.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
What ear was this?

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Nineteen o three?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
My goodness?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Now another player, This guy ended up landing on a
pile of coal, went through the car on the cole
and they sent him to the morgue because they declared
him dead on the scene.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Is that the more somebody saw his arm move?

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh, my goodness, his life, Wow.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
His life had to go through a bunch of operations,
but my god.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
He pulled through. Crazy And you know what his name was,
Harry Leslie.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Not only did he live, he became governor of the
state of Indiana.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
How about that. I thought you were going to tell
me he scored the winning touchdown?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, nope, but he had two eight is captain two
different sports.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
But he lived through the thing.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Unbelievable. And Mary.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
In fact, the Indiana team which got there ten minutes later,
all the people from Entering rushed over to help out right,
But Big Tragy ten colors Old gold and Brown, Old
Gold and Brown, the mascot in eighteen ninety two became
officially the boiler Makers.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Before that, which wasn't very many years, they were called.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
All kinds of things, mainly by sportscasters or the place
when they where they were going, they give nick They
were called grangers, pumpkin shuckers, rail splitters, blacksmiths, corn filled sailors,
and hay seeds, among other things. Those are all used
by announcers and in newspapers.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Those are all racial slurs.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
The boiler Makers.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
And other mascots they have, you know, Pistol Pete. Really
they call him Purdue Pete. Yes, uh, and he's been
there for you know, a couple of decades back in
the fifties. Uh, the boiler Maker special to train all right,
I know about that, and you know about the big
bass drum ten foot by four foot huge, takes two

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guys pounded on the thing to make the thing go,
all right, and they got some traditions to How about the.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Golden Girls, Yeah, the major ats.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Now you see how excited Matt was about that. Well,
I know that we're growing up in Indiana the gold Girls.
But you know with the TV show no with.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Thank you for being a friend, right, yes.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Do you know why they started the Golden Girl tradition.
Why because they had a quarterback, all right, that was
called the Golden Boy. He was their star player. He
was a guy from Ohio. Lynn Dawson, quarterback from Alliance, Ohio.

(27:32):
How about that?

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Uh? No national championships, No national championships in your whole
you know history, No Heisman Trophy winners. Leroy Keys the
greatest player of football Purdue football history, the first one
hundred years of the program. Leroy Keys great player. He

(27:55):
didn't win the Heisman.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
No, he came in second.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
In nineteen sixty eight, remember as the year they came
into Columbus, Leroy Keys and Mike fitz was the quarterback undefeated,
number one in the nation.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Buck Guy's number two in the nation.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Boot.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
We beat him two touchdowns to none.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Wasn't a backup quarterback? Yes, Long Bill Long, Oh Bill
Long had a touchdown run to help win the game.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
And he he was a third quarterback. Yeah, okay, and
he had been the star of the year before he
goes in the in the game, the crowd's booing. Two
plays later, he runs about twenty six yards for a touchdown. Hey,
you got a standing ovation coming off the field. That's
how quick they can turn on fans.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
But they've had also Mike Phipps I talked about the
quarterback came in second for the Heisman Trophy in nineteen
sixty nine. They had Bob Greasie second in nineteen sixty six.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Wow, but nobody they've been right there. But I haven't
won one.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
What about Drew Brees, No, he came in. He came
in like third or something, second or third. Four Super
Bowl winning quarterback. Bob Griese won two, Dawson one and
Breeze one. They've also had other guns, Jim Everett, Gary Danielson.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yeah, you see all the time. Mark Harmon, let me
go on and on.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
If they had great quarterbacks, they can't get when a
Heisman Trophy or National.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
They had a kid that played here just a few
years ago, Aidan O'Connell that is back up for the
Raiders now is in the NFL. Kyle Orton. Ye, yep.
They've had a lot of good quarterbacks. Yep.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
The rivals Indiana and they'll be playing two weeks. The
Old Oaken Bucket Old Oaken Bucket nineteen twenty five starters
a traveling trophy and it's supposedly it is an interesting thing.
The bucket they're used, they found on a farm, is
supposed it was a bucket was left there by John Morgan,

(29:47):
Morgan's raiders, Confederates that raided southern Ohio and.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Southern Indiana during the Civil War. How about that?

Speaker 5 (29:55):
All right?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
And they put an I and p on it metal
one or gold ones, gold plate Ones, Illinois, then Purdue Cannon.
We talked about it when we talked about Illinois, all right.
Next thing, famous alumni, a lot of astronauts, Neil Armstrong
and Gus Grissom, which is important because Neil Armstrong was
the first my man to go to the moon.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Guess what, Gus grisson was the last guy to go
to the moon.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Nice, all right?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
You got Eugene starm You got Roger Chafey, Solly Sollinger,
Hudson Hudson Riverie guy landed the plane he air.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Do you like popcorn and backer? All right? John Wooden,
Chris Shankle, how about this stuff? These are just the nom.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Uh, he admitted.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
A famous sports and house back in the day.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Affles William Fritz Affles.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I don't know that you ain't knowing by the name
the bruiser, the famous wrestler thing, the bruiser. Al Right,
that's crazy, okay, now, hey, Dave Letterman always said Dick
the bruiser on his show.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yes, because Dave Litterman.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Also. Okay, Roy, Yes, food truck. All right, they have
something called a meat ball Ristco. Meatball Ristico in West Lafayette.
It's meatballs made out a short rib beef brisket ground
beef topped with sheep's milk and cheese. Huh.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
I don't know about the sheep's milk.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Meat yeah yeah, chicken chicken McNuggets by Purdue Okay, okay, yes, uh,
but here's the one here about this issert. The donut
bread pudding. Yes, the donut bread pudding. Twelve Krispy Kream
donuts cut up into buy sized pieces, all right, all right,

(31:59):
and you soap these in a vanilla custard, all right, good,
and you bake it a little bit. You top it
with a bourbon butter sauce, my goodness, and a big
old scoop ice cream.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Alright. So here's what we need to do, Jeff.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
We need to get missus logan that recipe that might
be a Michigan Week westc could be.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
That could be different.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
That sounds like something that she could make. Like that's like,
you know, the bourbon sauce could be her special little deal.
There you go.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Here's some loss in West Lafayette.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
All right.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Can't ride a horse more than ten miles an iron.
I'm the street on the main stream.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
I can't do it, all right.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
No, no noodling fish.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
You're not allowed to noodle your fish.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
That sounds great.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
You can't do it. No noole your fish with your hands.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Okay, all right, the next one.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Now, you can be assured if you take your kid
to the barbershop you haircut, he's safe because there's a
law in West Lafayette, Indiana that the barber is not
allowed to threaten a kid by saying, I'll cut your
ears off if you don't stop squirming in his sheet.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
In his chair.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Somebody actually.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Happened.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
It had to have happened.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I can't do that, all right, So that those are
all West laffelet Lafayette laws.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Amelia Earhart planned her last flight at the Purdue Airport.
Didn't take off from there. But maybe the what maybe
the coaching steps us in her game plan.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Didn't work out with disappeared.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
But I'm wanna tell you something. I'm gonna give you
guys some things. Listen to this now.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Napkins, string, an.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Apple crate, a candle, bottle, chloroform, bottle of chloroform, matches,
a big axe, nail.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
And strips of leather.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Okay, there's a.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Guy by name of James Moon eighteen seventy.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Six, his Civil War vetteran all right, he rented room
forty one in the Lar Hotel in West Lovette. What
would you use those things for?

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Sounds like a bomb? Or did it? Sounds like a
murdering spree?

Speaker 4 (34:22):
You're close, You're close, alight. He takes the axe. What's
up hanging beam? Yep, the string attached it?

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Boom?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
He takes his candle, puts it by the string, takes
a match, puts them by the candle, takes straps, nails down, okay,
next to him, takes the color for him with the napkins.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
All right.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
He's got everything all set, has it all set, The
axes above.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Apple crate. He puts his head in apple crate, all right,
and he.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Has attached so that a little dow Rod goes under
his chin, all right, lights a candle by the string, straps.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Himself in real quick.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
But before he does that real quick, he takes a
chlor for him, lays down, puts his head inside the crate.
What happens is the candle burns a string axe. False,
he committed suicide. He made his own guillotine. Oh, my goodness,
his own guillotine. So the maid comes in at seven

(35:46):
o'clock in the morning and his head's in that apple crate.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Wow, has no idea what happened?

Speaker 4 (35:54):
You can figure it out. How did he do that?
That took planning?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Now is this guy a graduate of That was.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
A gag of a game plan. He also probably helped
with some of these game plans. How about that?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I feel I feel like I was just at a
campfire getting a ghost story. Yeah, no, kidd a movie.
Dramatic pause.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Now, ironically, the room was the same when al Capone
would come through town, he would stay in that room.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Wow, I don't think i'd stay in that room.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
In all right, Bill Conley, no vine enemy wrapping it
up with a city ghost story city the ghost. Well,
you know we if Ohio State plays in the end
in the Big Ten title game. You can, we can hit.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Don't think they're not ready.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
That's right, all right? Uh Bill Conley, no vine enemy
on the Purdue boiler Makers. Will wrap up the show
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to me, does Ohio State schedule work against them heading
into the game against TTUN They're going to head to
ann Arbor without a serious challenger for more than a month.
That's from Alec.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
No, not at all.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
No. First of all, they're going to practice every day
against best team in the country themselves.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, no, very true. I wouldn't. I don't know too
much to lose. Yeah, exactly right. We will be back
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