November 12, 2023 • 57 mins
After many weeks, the SAG-AFTRA strike has come to an end. And that means we can talk about geeky movies and shows again! We shake off the ring rust as we talk about some of the upcoming geeky properties we hope to see soon!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nerdron Collider, the podcast
that's all about the geeky things happening in the world
around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel Castin, and with me as always is the
super awesome, amazing, wonderful Jonathan Strickland.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Happy post strike, Ariel.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Happy post strike. So yeah, the strike is technically over
right now. The pickets are all shut down. Now, the
National Review Board, I still think, has to look at,
review and approve the new agreement between sag AFTRA and AMPTP.
They're doing that as of us recording this. But if
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all goes well and everybody votes for the updated agreement,
then we are golden.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, and already people, it's like the floodgates opened. Already,
people are promoting the heck out of upcoming projects because
of course they had been silent for this whole time.
Everyone is now treating this as essentially just a formality
for those signatures and everything else is good to go.
So we thought we would follow a suit and do
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a kind of a segue episode back into the way
we used to do things, not fully yet, because we
didn't have all the time the reason why we didn't
have enough time to really flesh this out, as one
we were still waiting on the outcome of the strike,
and two, Ariel's got this big old calamity facing her
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this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah. Yeah, the Weird West larp that I've been playing
is having its final game, which I thought I was
ready for. But honestly, as I'm like packing up my
costumes for the last time, I got a little missed,
ye eyed. I'm sure it'll be worse to after, although
worse after not worst, maybe mold though, I do you know,
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I'm on discord with all of my LARP friends and
we will stay in touch and we'll still do other
things together. But there's no new game on the horizon
right now from that group. There there are some of
our friends who who've played and been on staff for
a rule of three who are starting a new game
in a couple of years, but that's a year or two,
but that's a ways off yet, so just yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, and myself, that larp is called calamity, which is
why I was referencing the fact that she's got a
big old calamity ahead of hers. She doesn't have, like,
as far as I know, any looming disasters. I certainly
hope not.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I mean in the game, yes we are, I said,
so each season we've been fighting one of like the
big bad has been like one of there have been
so many big bads because we've got like Cathulian ritual lists,
We've got like card playing, crossroad demon magic people, We've
got gods and demons and monsters, and it's it's a
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scary it's supposed to be a scary, weird West sort
of a thing. And so this year we've been fighting
one of the horsemen of the apocalypse every year, and
so this year is death.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well yeah, I mean it's got to be the last one, right, So.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, So I mean that's kind of a calamity.
We started off with a big world changing event and
if we win or if we lose, in the world
of the game, it'll be a big world changing event.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So yeah, fun, Well, that's that's exciting. And since you
still have a lot of packing to do, we're going
to move this right along. We do not have a
thirty seconds or less because we didn't really have the
time to dive into that. Like usually we actually come
up with which which news items fall into that category
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and then we divide up who gets what and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And then we ignore it completely.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, no, some of us. Some of us script it
out so that we get because some of us are
very bad at sticking to thirty seconds unless we script
it out. And by some of us, I mean me.
So I don't script it out because I'm super like
meticulous or anything. I do it because if I don't,
this is what happens. What you're hearing right now, that's
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what happens.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I'm not giving you crap because I've been really bad
before the strike. I was really bad about it myself.
I'd be like, Okay, no, this is your thirty seconds
or less, but I have to talk about it so.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, that's different though. That's where you're chiming in because
you're like, oh, this made me think of this other
thing as opposed to this is my item in thirty
seconds or less, and now I'm going to spend the
next four and a half minutes talking about it, Like
that's the problem I have.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Cool, Well, real quick before we jump in instead of
thirty seconds or less, Real quick, before we jump into
our news stories. Have you watched anything or done anything
that you haven't been able to talk about recently that
you'd like to be like, yeah, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I mean like, yeah, Mostly it's all the Halloween stuff
where I was watching lots of spooky movies and most
of them are several years old obviously, so like Trick
or Treat, I rewatched twice this past season, which is unusual.
But one of those two times was the television broadcast
version of Trick or Treat, which is very tame in
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comparison to the theatrical cut. I watched it Follows, which is
one of my favorite, very sad horror movies. It's a
great horror movie, but I don't think it hit me
how sad it is the first time I saw it.
When I rewatched it, I was like, wow, this is
making me feel things. And then Summer of eighty four,
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which is a horror movie that came out a few
years ago that was kind of cashing in on that
same eighties nostalgia that Stranger Things did, an it like
those sorts of things very much in that same vein,
very very mired and rooted in the eighties, but an
interesting film with I guess it's all I'm gonna say
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because I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who
hasn't seen it. It is available on streaming so you
can find it, So how about you.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I've watched so like, I watched some new TV, actually
not only one of it I would consider geeky. So
we watched White Lotus, which was kind of too dark
for me. I just I found it hard to like
the people in it and it was kind of depressing.
But I watched The Bear, which is like up there
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on my top favorite shows right now, Doom Patrol. Just
I started watching the second half of the last season
of Doom Patrol. I'm not caught up. They just released
their series finale, so I'm trying to catch up to that.
And I've been watching Barry, which we all know you love,
and I'm in the part of season three where it's
starting to get really sad.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So yeah, season three is hard. Yeah, it definitely starts
to feel like a big tonal shift, especially from season one.
Although season season one had its heavy moments too, obviously,
but man, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Interesting too worse worse, right, So I've got a lot let.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Me tell you, Season three is hard. Season four at
times is excruciating in a great way like it's excruciating
because it's done so well, and by that time you're
so invested in characters, even characters as you're sitting there
thinking I should not care about this person. They are terrible,
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and yet you still feel yourself caring for them. It's
pretty phenomenal, or at least it was for me.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah. I like it because everything that they talk about
on the acting side, I mean, I've heard it all.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, see that. That makes me wonder if you're gonna
like season four as much because they really get away
from the acting side by the time you get to
season four, like that that has become much less of
a thing by the time you're at season four.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean I I honestly, I kind of like the
I appreciate the the stark, semi reality of the acting side,
but I find the Hitman stuff more entertaining. I don't
know if it's because it's less personally depressing for me
and more generally depressing, or if it's just I can
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lose myself in that story more because it's not a
world that I'm in.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah. I will say that Kusino's story does still have
some of the acting world stuff wrapped up in it
by the time you get to season four, and that
is Kusino and oh, what's Stephen Root's character's name? Fus,
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I watch it there, lay Fuchs. Yeah, Fuchs and Kusino
are are kind of like to me, Fuchs, Kusno and
No Hank are the highlights of season four. Oh gotcha,
but it's yeah, I'll be curious to hear what you
think once you've made your way through the whole series.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So apart from those, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And I started watching Loki, but I haven't finished. And
I didn't watch a psocas. Please don't at me, people,
I just my my husband doesn't have interest in a PSOCA,
so I have to find time to watch it on
my own. And I've been watching actual places.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Gosh, I haven't watched any of those, Like, I haven't
watched so. I never saw the Obi Won series, So
I'm that's how far And I did did a There
was a season three of The Mandalorian, was there.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I I think? So? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I then I haven't seen that, so like I think,
I just I got to a point where I was
definitely fed up with Star Wars, Like even the good
stuff I was fed up with. But I definitely didn't
want any more bad stuff, like stuff I just found
to be like exasperating. But that meant that even the
good stuff I was tired of. So I just I
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kind of stopped, and I'm right there. We'll talk about
this a little bit today, but I'm right there with
superheroes too, Like I am real close. And I don't
think it's because I'm burnt out on superheres necessarily. I
think I'm burnt out on the way superhero stories have
been told. In the most recent several outings of superhero stories,
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I just don't think they've been very satisfying. And I
think part of the problem is that for Marvel anyway,
is that they're trying to continue to build on something
that was a huge payoff in Infinity War, and I
think that was a mistake. I think instead of building
they should have probably taken a big step back and
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started to establish stuff again. Instead of making everything like
this world threatening or even universe threatening opponent that you
have to face down again and again and again. That
just gets exhausting. Like I would love some street level
hero action.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean we're getting some of that. We're getting that
with Echo, we got that with Miss Marvel and you know,
as far as getting it, we did talk about before
the strike, how Kevin Feige said. Feig someday I will remember,
said that they needed to step back and put some
more space and breadth in between their superhero stories and
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TV shows and make sure that they're different enough from
each other so maybe you'll get your.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Wish well, and they're kind of being forced to in
the short term. And that's our first story, is that
the strike obviously put delays in production all up and
down slates us all the different studios. Disney obviously famous
for announcing big, ambitious slates way ahead of time, and
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Marvel is the key example of that. They've done it
with Star Wars two, but Marvel is like the poster
child for this. Well, now the Verge reports and the
Hollywood Reporter reports that Disney has had to shuffle that
release schedule quite a bit, and it means right now
that twenty twenty four is only going to have one
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Marvel Superhero live action film released in it, like one
actual Marvel one. We're not talking about Sony here, and
that is Deadpool three, And.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It is just weird to think of as Marvel.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, well, we knew that they were moving it over
into the Marvel universe somehow, although the details of how
that was going to happen had been somewhat hidden. I
understand that there might be a hint of this, like
of the answer of what's going on in the Marvels,
But I have not yet seen the Marvels. I just
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have unfortunately not been able to avoid all the spoilers.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So I have avoided all spoilers on that. We'll get
We could talk about it now, but it's later in
our show notes. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it then anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, well we can chat about rafter this anyway. But
so Deadpool three was supposed to come out on May
third of next year. Now it's going to be July
twenty sixth. There was a different movie that was going
to be out on July twenty sixth, that was Captain
America Brave New World with the Falcon version of Captain America.
Now that has been pushed to Valentine's Day of twenty
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twenty five. Blade, which has been delayed numerous times for
a couple of years now, was supposed to come out
on Valentine's Day twenty twenty five. Now it's been pushed
to November seventh, twenty twenty five, and thunder Bolts was
pushed from the end of next year to July twenty fifth,
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twenty twenty five. Which is interesting to me that again, Blade,
which was supposed to come out before Thunderbolts, is now
going to be coming out at the end of twenty
twenty five, So it's coming out after Thunderbolts now, which
just tells you that there's just been a lot of
issues behind the scenes in the production of Blade, which
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we knew about. Like we've heard that that script essentially
got sent to rewrites, like drastic rewrites before the strike
even happened.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, maybe. I mean, I hope that this is good.
I hope this gives them time to adjust their stories. Yeah, Like,
we still don't will make them successful.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
We still don't know what they're going to do in
the wake of the ongoing Jonathan Major's legal scan. We
don't know if that means they're going to have to
recast Kang. We don't know if that means they're going
to abandon Kang as the big bad for the end
of the next phase. If they do, then phases four, five,
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and six. I don't think you're ever going to come
out of this looking back on phases four, five, and
six of the whole Marvel timeline as being anything other
than a chaotic mess. I just I don't think there's
any way for them to totally save it. I think
they can make it entertaining. I think, especially if they
take a little more time crafting their stories and maybe
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spending less time trying to make everything a big blue
laser shoots up in the sky and you got to
stop it. I think if they do that, then people
can look back on the films of the second half
of those phases and be like nostalgic for them and
enjoy them. But man, you look at some of the
ones that have come out over the last couple of
years and like, they are not a whole lot of
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high spots, at least not in the movies. Like I
did like the Marvel Miss Marvel series, and I liked
you know, WandaVision, and I even like Falcon and the
Winter Soldier, and I liked Hawkeye, but the movies have
been a different story. Loki another good one. Yeah, I
haven't liked the.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Mood liked much. I liked Moonnight too, Honestly, yep, yep.
That wasn't a giant laser. That was a giant giant
beast gods, which is kind of different.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So yeah, well, the series are also different because you
can actually have a lot more happen in the course
of like, you know, eight to twelve hours than you
can in a movie. And people have been complaining that
a lot of the Marvel movies feel bloated anyway, Like, yeah,
they're long, but they're stretches where you feel like not
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much is happening. And from what I understand, the Marvels
does not have that problem because it is significantly shorter
than a lot of more recent Marvel films have been.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, so let's go ahead and about the Marbles. Yeah,
it's got it's only like fifty percent critically positive, it's
eighty six percent audience positive. Everybody that I know that
has seen it has really enjoyed it. They've compared it
to like Guardians of the Galaxy, and yeah, like it's
an hour and a half, right, So I would much
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rather have the problem going. Oh man, I wish a
couple of these points had been flushed out a little
bit more over, like.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Mortals or I don't even know Eternals.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It's called the Eternals, where I'm just like, this is
just way way too much.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
No, the Eternals. I was left sitting there thinking like,
what was the point of telling this out of chronological order?
Because it didn't nothing. Nothing that was revealed was particularly surprising,
and it was more confusing and less satisfying this way. Yeah.
I have seen a lot of our friends, our mutual friends,
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who have seen The Marbles say very good things about it.
But I also imagine that those are folks who have
already seen, for example, the Miss Marvel series or the
WandaVision series, which means they already know about Monica Rambo
because they saw her in WAND Division, And they already
know about Kamala Khan because they saw her in Miss Marvel.
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But if you're going into this and you haven't watched
any of the streaming series, I could imagine it's going
to be very jarring because you're being introduced to characters
that the film is sort of assuming you already know
who they are, and that could be really that can
really throw you off if you hadn't been watching the
streaming series.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, but I have, so I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, yeah, I am too, except for the fact that
I worry that this. I mean, we know that Marvel
is trying to take a slightly different approach, Like a
lot of the stuff that they're starting to introduce, like
the Echo series is a stand alone kind of been
off of the main Marvel branch, so it's not going
to be as integrated into everything else the way they
have been doing. And I think that might be it
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might be a good idea. It might be a good
idea for them to do that, because it's gotten so
large now that for you to it feels like you
have to do homework before you can go see a
Marvel movie or else you're going to be in the dark.
And that is not probably the best way to make
a big box office splash.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So that's that's true. That being said, the homework to
do for this movie, for the Marvels is not that much.
You've got like half a TV series for Monica, right,
You've got one series for for Miss Marvel and then
Captain Marvel. I don't know if they didn't put her
in a lot of stuff because of the reception to
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her first movie, which I thought was fine, or if
because she's just so overpowered that you just you have
to like only call her in occasionally or else it
gets ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, yeah, you don't have a problem because she can
immediately defeat the battle.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, so she hasn't been in a lot. So these
these are all characters who are like almost standalone, And
Kamala didn't really Kamala kon Miss Marvel didn't really cross
over with much of the other universe anyhow, So not yet.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah. Now I'm like, I really do look forward to
seeing it because one because I think the Kamala Khan
character is incredibly charming and and I really I want
to see more of that that character. So I'm very
excited to see it. I'm not trying to like poo
poo all over Marvel here. I'm just I have concerns.
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I've also seen, I mean, we've talked about this before.
I've also seen obviously no shortage of bad takes of
mostly dudes out there saying how Kamala Khan ruined Marvel
and all that kind of mess, which is just absolutely
ridiculous and indicative that these are very entitled people, Like
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I get, I get not liking something, and that's totally legit.
But there's a difference between saying I didn't like this
and this has been ruined, because that now you're making
a declaration that should be applicable across the entire fandom.
Right everyone would say, oh it's ruined. It's clearly not ruined.
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There are people who really enjoy it. Just because you
don't like something doesn't mean it's bad exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I want more things to go the route of Miss Marvel,
because that makes you that's enjoyable, that's actually fun.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, I'm cool with it too, Like I really enjoyed
that series, so I do want to see it. Hopefully
i'll see it before too long. But we've got some
other stuff to chat about. One of those is the
man whose name Ariel cannot pronounce, Kevin Figi, and I'm
just gonna say his name. No, I'm gonna say his
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name differently every time, so he'll never know. So Kevin
Feige helmed it was supposed to helm a Star Wars movie.
This was something that was being talked about a couple
of years ago that when they were talking about all
these different Star Wars plans they had, there were a
couple of different filmmakers who were given the nod to
write or direct or both an upcoming Star Wars movie,
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and one by one those have kind of fallen through,
and Kevin fiej his one has also followed in that
that trend they never really got beyond kind of just
a wouldn't it be cool if you wanted to do this?
He said, yes, that would be cool, but never apparently
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went much further than that, and now it's just not
on the table anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
This is one of those things that kind of if
I learned about it, I completely forgot what was going
to happen, maybe because I was said that the Rhan
Johnson trilogy wasn't happening, which.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know's supposed to do one too.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, she was supposed to do Rogue Squadron.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I would have been interested in that.
At the same time, I wasn't super happy with Wonder
Woman eighteen nineteteen eighty four something, and uh.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You know, one actor strike and now Aeriel can't name
any geeky properties.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Well, you know what, it's interesting because we did get
hit with a bunch of like trailers as like you said,
it's everything is flooded as soon as the strike was
over stuff that I like completely slipped my radar because
I've still been reading news even though I haven't been
like entertainment news, even though I haven't been talking about it,
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and we've got a mass of things that I was
just like, that's a thing. That's a thing I didn't
know about that, even if like the media reports on it.
If you don't have that you're you were saying earlier, Jonathan,
if you don't have the the the talent behind it
also promoting it, it doesn't get as much, it doesn't
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make as many ways.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, No, the talent being part of marketing these films.
It's clear how important that is now that the strike
is over, because like some of my favorite promotional moments
for films came from you know, stars doing a press
junket and having really fun interviews, often with a gimmick
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like yeah, you're being interviewed, but you're also telling us
what you think of these snacks like that kind of stuff.
And the fact that that was off the table for
months really I think hurt a lot of the marketing efforts.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, speaking of which, I absolutely love the Barbie movie,
which I don't think I was able to talk about
on the show because I saw it after the strike started.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Who I enjoyed it too, I very much had. I
had a really good time watching it, and I expected
I would like it, but it really was thoroughly entertaining.
I very much enjoyed it. Still need to see Oppenheimer, though.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I haven't. I haven't watched that either. It's just
so long.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Well, it's also heavy stuff, right, Like I mean, you're
talking about, you know, atomic bombs and that stuff. Let's
talk about something that's less heavy. Let's talk about a
supporting character in a Charles Dickens novel who's got his
own series.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, The Artful Dodger is coming to Disney Plus, which
watching the trailer is not at all what I expected
from it. Kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, So, first of all, I think it's only on
Disney Plus in Australia. I think here. I think here
in America it's gonna be on Hulu. But we'll have
a story later that talks about why in a few months.
That's not really gonna mean anything, but anyway, Yeah, it's
set in Australia, which I did not know until I
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looked into it further, I didn't realize, like oh, it's
supposed to be in Australia, but yeah, this is this
is the artful Dodger who is Oliver Twist's friend, and
he's a pickpocket and he's like the chief pickpocket in
Fagan the the the thief master type character in Oliver Twist.
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He's like the top thief out of all of Fagan's boys.
And in the series he is a young man, he's
not a child anymore, and a doctor at least posing
as one. It's interesting because like you know, he's he's
performing like a surgeon, which is a weird Yankovic song.
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But no, he's performing like a surgeon, which historically he
could get away with because surgeons and physicians were two
very different professions. If you were a physician, you were
medically educated and you would be addressed as doctor. If
you were a surgeon, you were essentially a barber and
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you would be referenced as mister. So if he's coming
across as if he's posing as a surgeon, he could
really get away with that, especially in Australia in the
eighteen hundreds. But yeah, yeah, you know, you see him
encounter his old crime buddy Fagan, who has also shown Up,
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played by David Thulis, and I have to say, like,
I watched this trailer. I watched it expecting, especially once
I saw how old Dodger was. I watched it expecting
to hate it. I did not. I thought it was
pretty charming.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I also think it was charming. And it's interesting you
said you saw how old he was in the poster
for or like the little screenshot of it posters maybe
the wrong word. I thought that the art for Everybody
looked super young, and I thought it was gonna be
like another young teeny bopper thing but with an Oliver
twist haha. But no, like he goes between looking like
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he's the artful Dodger goes between looking like he's twelve
and like he's thirty five.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So yeah, yeah, I agree. It's it looks cute. There's
an obvious love interest thrown him there, and I'm sure
it's gonna be a lot of him trying to navigate
like Fagan wanting to pull him back into a life
of crime, his current profession likely being only somewhat legitimate.
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I'm eager to see it. Looks like it's gonna be fun,
and yeah, I hope that it is. Once it starts
to stream at the end of this month.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Another thing that we got a trailer for was Ghostbus two.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yes, Ghostbusters two, Winter is Coming.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Winter is Coming, which is really interesting because we had
barely heard that it was being done before the strike happened,
and now there's a trailer out.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, it's it looks like The Day After Tomorrow mixed
with Ghostbusters plus like a little bit of Game of
Thrones because you want you expect the Night King to
come out in any second.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, and so maybe if you watch the trailer, maybe
he does. Uh uh. It's it's interesting because my husband
watched the trailer and said, it doesn't it looks good.
I like that they're doing something kind of different. But
also it doesn't feel like Ghostbusters to me, and I
watch Alma feels perfectly ghostbusteries to me, ghostbusteries, Ghostbustery.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I mean, it's hard for me to say if something
looks really Ghostbusters ish to me because there's only the
one movie, and so it's hard to there's no what
I'm sorry, there's like, what's the one? Where are you.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Saying five movies?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
There's one movie, Ariel, there's one movie back in the
back in the early nineteen eighties, and it was just
the one movie.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
There's the three, and then there's also the all female version,
and then there's Afterlife, and now there's this one. So
that's six movies.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You must have slipped through one of those one of
those multiverse dimensions. There are just the one movie.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, I'm going back there then, because I liked. I liked.
There's at least two Ghostbusters. I thought there were three,
but there's at least two.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There's okay, if you're talking about the original cast, there
are two. Then you had then you had the the
the remake, the all the all women remake. Then you
had the the more recent After Life Ghostbusters After Life,
so you could argue that's the third for the original two.
(31:00):
Than now you've got this one. But you know, I
still haven't watched After Life. I tried to watch the
twenty sixteen Ghostbusters and it was not for me.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
The twenty sixteen Ghostbusters the shining. The shining part of
that was thor as the Secretary.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'll take your word for it. I don't think I
even got that far. It's just it was not for me,
which is fine. Again, I'm not saying the movie's bad.
I'm saying I did not enjoy it, but the yeah,
I watched this trailer and I thought, eh, it's you know,
nothing about this is upsetting me. Necessarily, it's coming across
(31:46):
maybe a little more like it's trying to be a
little more serious than what you would normally associate because
like Ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters was essentially a bunch of
schlubby guys being exterminators. They're just ghost exterminators, and so
it was very much comedy first and then everything else second.
(32:08):
And I don't think that's the same tone you get
with the two most recent Ghostbuster movies.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So the most recent Ghostbusters movie, you absolutely get that
tone because most of it is referencing the original movie.
So After Life is largely references to things that you
loved previously. But I really loved the cast of Afterlife
and I thought it had some really great some of
the original moments were really good. So I look forward
(32:35):
to this new movie. I hopek I hope it brings
the joy that I have for Ghostbusters to a new generation.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Well, something else that we saw it actually came out
a little more than a week ago now, was a
trailer for Lisa Frankenstein, which I think Ariel and Night
booked about a while ago. Yeah, we talked about when
it was in development, but now we've got we've seen
a trailer for it, and I think both you and
I had sort of similar reactions to this where it
(33:05):
was again, wasn't quite the tone we were expecting.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, when when it was being talked about in development.
So it is a It is written by the individual
who wrote Juno and Jennifer's Body, and it's directed by
Zelda Robbins, who is William Robinson's William Robbins his daughter.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Lord.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I can't pluralize anything today or possessive anything.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
How do you say Kevin's last name?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Look? Kfiji, k fabe, k fabe. It's I'm going on
a quick buddy trail. It's amazing. Tony and I watched
The FP a long time ago, as everybody knows, and
now he sees Jason Trost and Jason Trost's brother's name
(33:52):
everywhere and he's like, whoa, they're involved in this. I'm like,
they do a lot of like filmmaking that is not
the FP and all superheros must I do a lot
of stuff anyhow. Yeah, So rob Zelda Williams directed, and
it was it was supposed to feel like an old
eighties movie and it looks cute, but it doesn't quite
The trailer doesn't quite catch that vibe.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I think I don't have anything else to add
to that, so I think, rather than that, I'll just
carry on. And I'm also calling an audible and I
figure we'll just do all the trailer stuff together and
talk about mass effect after that. So okay, that means
next up. We also saw a trailer. Finally got a
trailer for the Netflix live action remake of Avatar the
(34:36):
Last Airbender, and I thought it looked pretty good. I
mean I say that as someone who did not get
into the original animated series. I should show it to
my partner, because boy, howdy did she get into it.
I should show it to her and see what her
reaction is.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah. I did watch the cartoon and joyed the cartoon.
The trailer looks very pretty Honestly. You don't get to
see a lot of the characters interacting. You just get
to basically see live action character art and scenery art.
You don't get to see a lot of plot. You
don't get to see a lot of acting in it yet,
(35:17):
so I think it looks good so far. It definitely
hits as in like, oh, yes, this is this is
the story that I loved just visually. But you know,
you don't get to see aang being a dork bucket.
You don't get to see Sokka being a dork bucket.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, you don't. You don't get to see m Night
Shayamalan try to ruin the thing that you loved.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I yeah, that it wasn't great.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
No, my partner, My partner gave me a full rundown
after she came back. I did not go with her
to watch it. She went with some of her friends
who were also fans of the show. And I didn't
understand about eighty percent of what she said because I
didn't have the reference material. But I could tell it
(36:05):
wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah. Yeah, My husband and I and his roomade at
the time. I think we were all angry, and we
all like hate. Hate is too strong of a word,
but for lack of a better term, like hate, dared
each other to watch it. So we all watched it together,
and none of us, from the very big fans to
the casual fan to the I don't like the cartoon
(36:28):
enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, so it was a movie for no one.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I'm sure it was for somebody.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But the series looks like it could, at least from
a visual standpoint, be more faithful to the source material.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Here is hoping, But that's something we knew was coming out.
You know what. I did not know Inside Out too
was a thing.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Neither did I. I still haven't seen Elemental, like I
haven't seen the last Pixar film, you know, but I
did not know the Inside Out two was gonna be
a thing. And this is a continuation of the story
from Inside Out. We're still with the same character and
the same emotions. But it turns out that as you
get older, you get a little more complicated and maybe
(37:13):
you maybe you end up developing emotions that are in
addition to things like discussed anger, joy, sorrow, you know
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, which I mean you can have before puberty too,
you can have at a young young age.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
But sure, I think what they're I think what they're
doing though, is the whole like like like emotional complexity
as you get older kind of storyline.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
But yeah, yeah, so the trailer looked okay.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It was more of a teaser I think than anything else.
And yeah, I think it looked like it's kind of
like your typical Pixar teaser. It's just it's just giving
you a hint at what the story is going to be. Uh.
I don't know how I feel about this, only not
because so I'm not the biggest fan of Insight Out.
I thought it was fine. I didn't think it was bad,
but it doesn't stand out as one of my favorite
(38:07):
Pixar movies. And I don't know if I would have
rather had seen a completely original sort of world, because
arguably that's what Elemental was trying to be, and I
never felt the desire to actually go and see it.
So it could just be that I haven't seen something
from Pixar that has grabbed me the way say the
(38:29):
original Toy Story movie did, or Finding Nemo or even
Monsters Inc.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, oh, Monsters Inc. I loved Monsters Inc. And Finding
Nemo Toy Story was my least favorite. I liked the
second or third Toy Story better. I can't remember anyhow. Yeah,
I I haven't watched a lot of Pixar and Disney
animation lately. I need to again, It's just it's I
(39:01):
enjoy watching movies with other people, and if I'm going
to sit and watch a movie by myself, I have
to really be motivated to do it.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So totally, yeah, I'm the same way, which is why
that's why I'm also way behind on various series and stuff,
because most of it is stuff that my partner would
also like to watch, and it's just hard to find
time where we're both conscious and wanting to see something
because we work slightly different hours and it just means that,
(39:30):
like it's when we do have that time, we might
want to do something else together rather than just sit
and watch something. So that's the main reason why I'm way.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Behind, whereas my partner just is not motivated to watch
animation like he liked. I think the thing he liked
best most recently was Kung Fu Panda How to Train
Your Dragon. He thought was okay, but like it's just
not his. He liked the older stuff, but it's not
like super his thing.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Got it well, something that should be my thing, except
that they didn't tell me that it was. That was
The Mean Girls, the musical trailer. And the reason why
I say that something they didn't tell me is that
if you watch the trailer for Mean Girls the Musical.
You would be forgiven if after watching it you walked
(40:18):
away saying, huh, I thought that was supposed to be
a musical.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's what I said when I walked away from the trailer,
not knowing that there was going to be a Mean
Girls movie, because that slipped my brain. I know, I
learned it at some point. Yeah, there's like one dance
number in it, and it's kind of in the background.
You it's not even fully realized within the trailer.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
So yeah, and they don't play any of the songs
from the musical. They have one lead in line. There's
a lead in line to the song revenge Party, which
is We're gonna make her Pay, and that leads right
into the song Revenge Party from Mean Girls the Musical,
and that's in the trailer. And when that line was
I was like, oh, wait, is this supposed to be
(41:01):
the musical? I remember now they weren't they going to
make a movie of the musical version, like, because for
a while I just thought it was just literally a
remake of Mean Girls, you know, a straight up remake
and not a musical remake. And it was only after
I sat there for a bit where I realized, oh, no,
this is supposed to be the musical, but for some reason,
they're not including any of the singing and only a
(41:23):
little bit of the dancing, and it's dancing in a
way that you could think was supposed to be happening
within the world in a non musical fashion. So I
was really confused.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean, maybe they didn't get to recording the singing
parts well before the strike.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Who knows, Well, that would be really weird for them
to put a trailer like it would be more likely
they would delay the film.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Then I would think so too. I don't yeah, I
don't know why they did what they did. It looks okay.
It's got a great cast. It's got a really good cast.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, including an original member of the Broadway cast for
Me and Girls is in it. And she's playing a teacher.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Now, is that Tina Fey?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
No, well, Tina Fey was in the original film and
is now in this one too, but she was not
in the Broadway cast.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
No. It was a creator of the Broadway show, wasn't she.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yes, she was the creator. She was a writer on
the film, and she wrote the musical, and she's in
the original film. And she's in the movie musical.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Film, technically involved in the musical, but not not on stage,
I mean a member of the cast.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Okay, she was one of She originally played Gretchen Wiener's
in the Broadway cast, and now she's playing a teacher
in the movie adaptation of the musical.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, that is fun.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I guess we can go with the not the trailer
we're not getting before we talk about our one video
game thing.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Oh, you're talking about the Coyote Versus Acme.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah, which another movie that if I learned that it
was happening, I completely forgot.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, So, a feature length animated film about Wiley Coyote,
the Looney Tunes character who's always after the road Runner. Reportedly,
this movie was essentially finished to the point where they
were showing it to test audiences and reportedly getting very
good reactions from those test audiences, and then Warner Brothers
(43:35):
Discovery announced that it will not be releasing Coyote Versus
Acme and instead will shelve it forever and take it
as another tax cut.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, which I'm kind of surprised because John Cena was
involved in that one, and they're keeping other of his things.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, I can tell you this. David Zaslov doesn't care.
He doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I know. It's sad, I it is. It is unfortunate,
especially since we just came out of a strike trying
to get producers to care more.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, it's just not just not fair.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
There are there are individual producers who do care very much.
It's it's the large, larger organization. Yeah, just because like
there was a there was a CW producer, writer or
director who during the strike was like, I'm giving money
to actors because we need to we need to step up,
and but they didn't know. He didn't have sway in
(44:33):
the negotiations.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
So yeah, so it's really disappointing because like it's not
that I was crying out for a a Coyote versus
Acme film. I didn't even know it existed. But I
always liked seeing more animation. I love seeing animated films
come out. I love the Looney Tunes characters, and it
would be really fun to see a good Looney Tunes movie,
(44:58):
not a space Jam, but a one. And it's just
really knowing how many people were spending years of their
lives putting this thing together, only to see the company
decide we're not going to show this to anyone because
we'd rather take a tax credit on it than to
actually release it. That is just so disheartening. It comes
(45:22):
across to me as cruel to all the creatives who
lent their time and talent to making it become a
thing and then just see it being treated as No,
it's more valuable to have it as a tax credit
than for it to be a work of art.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
I agree. I agree. And on the other end of
the spectrum, we did get a trailer for Mass Effect
five on End seven Day, which was this week, and
the hitches that the game may not It is being
estimated that the game may not come out until twenty
twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I'm looking at my calendar. That's a ways away it.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Is, and that's not an official release date from is
it BioWare? Yeah, that's just what other people are like
looking at other game release stuff. It is still in
early development. I think that first of all, the teeny
tiny little teaser we get looks beautiful. It looks beautiful,
and I already want to make the costume and I
(46:26):
know that I don't have that skill, but I know
some of our listeners do. So I look forward if
you guys make the costume. But I know that just
like a couple weeks or a month ago or something
like that. A couple months ago, we were talking about
how people were worried that the next mass Effect may
not even be a thing. So they're like, yes, this
(46:48):
is still a thing. It's just still in development. And
while that's early to give a trailer, I would rather
them make sure that the game is ready to go
and ready to be played and have a good experience,
rather than rush because everybody wants it right now.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, I think it's more along the lines of reassuring
the fan base that this is not something that's just
in limbo. It's something that's actively being worked on. And
while I can understand that they didn't give a timeframe
of when it'll come out, because if it's in early development,
you literally may not have a good solid idea of
(47:24):
when it'll come out, not even to the year right,
because so much can happen. But maybe they should have
said this won't be coming out in the next few years,
but we are working on it, just because otherwise you're
going to have We're gonna see the same thing we
always see, which is that every year that passes, people
are going to be like, so, where's the next mass Effect?
(47:46):
Just like everyone always asks Rockstar, where's the next GTA?
Like when's that coming out? And it has to be
I mean, I know there are a lot of developers
out there who handle that really well that I am,
and that's got to get very frustrating when behind the
scenes you can see how complicated the project is and
(48:10):
how everything needs to fit together properly for it to work,
and from the outside you're just seeing time go by
and say, why isn't it out already?
Speaker 1 (48:19):
So, yeah, yeah, that's rough. We have just a couple
more stories about streaming networks in general to talk about
before the end of this episode, and one of which
is that Disney and Hulu. Disney Plus and Hulu are
combining next year.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, so we had talked about this earlier this year,
that this was a very likely thing to have happen.
I think even last spring we were talking about how
the general expectation was that by this winter we would
see Disney Plus and Hulu combine. Disney has been after
the full purchase of Hulu for a while. Comcast has
(48:59):
held on to one third of Hulu and now Disney's
going to be paying like at least eight point six
billion dollars to get that one third of Hulu. From
what we understand, there will be a beta program where
people who are currently subscribed both to Disney Plus and
to Hulu may get a chance to use the unified
(49:21):
streaming platform where they're able to access all the content
across both platforms in a single space. But that's a
beta and it's only going to be open to people
who are currently subscribed to both of those services, which
means I'm out because I still am not subscribed to Hulu.
I have to wait till next spring.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I will be interested to look at this because, yeah,
it's it's figuring out how to content control things if
you've got a family, because Hulu is not. There's a
lot of stuff that a Disney parent may not want
their kid to see.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
There's quite a bit of stuff on Disney Plus as well.
I mean, I'm thinking about like the Daredevil series for examples.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I have started doing that I forgot. But also Echo
is going to be super dark. It looks more like
the Netflix stairedubl than it looks like I've said this
a couple of times. Sorry, it looks more like the
Netflix Stairedvel than it does The recent Marvel TV show.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah Yeah, Hawkeye that introduced Echo was far less graphic
in violence than even the teaser for Echo was.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, which I'm excited for the character. I guess we'll
see about about the violence. I don't know how I
feel about it yet. And the last thing we have
is if you are a Verizon customer, you might be
offered a Netflix Max bundle to help save you some money.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah. So, as in Netflix and Max, the streaming service
what used to be called HBO Max, Verizon is apparently
considering this. As we're recording this, this is not yet
a thing, but they're apparently considering this bundle, which is
very very unusual because unlike Disney Hulu, which will both
be owned by Disney, Netflix and Max are not owned
(51:07):
by the same company. Right, You've got Netflix and you've
got Warner Brothers Discovery. But apparently Verizon is going to
offer this bundle where I think it's going to be
seventeen dollars a month or something like that for the
ads supported versions of both Netflix and Max. So this
will have ads with it, but you would be able
(51:29):
to get access to both catalogs for less than you
would if you were subscribed to each individually, and so
there are a lot of questions about whether or not
this is what we're going to see in the future,
if we're going to see more bundles, which is weird
because it starts to get more and more like cable
like it starts to feel more like cable packages to me.
(51:49):
And it's so funny because for the longest time, people
are looking at streaming as finally a way to disrupt
cable and to have a more consumer friendly approach to
getting media, but that's not really been how it's panned
out over the years. With so many different streaming services,
each with their own you know, library of exclusive content,
(52:11):
it has made it very difficult to be a consumer.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah yeah, well if again, if you're a Verrison customer,
hopefully this pans out for you if you don't mind
ad supported content, which does help pay for your content
flat out, Like, if you don't want to pay those rates,
you have to have the ads. So if you want
content to be made and not shelled for tax write offs,
(52:37):
So that's it. Hopefully next week we will be back
to the good and normal, our old, our old selves
with show notes and maybe even some mashups and things
like that. You know, we are going into the Thanksgiving
and Christmas holiday or you know, seasonal holidays. So Nathan
(53:00):
and I haven't discussed schedules, but we will let you
know as soon as we know if there are any
upsets to our release schedule. Thank you for listening. And Jonathan,
if they want to reach out to us and talk
about things that we haven't been able to talk about
in a while, how can they do so.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, So you're gonna go on to your streaming box
whatever console or cable box, whatever you use your smart
TV to access streaming services. You're gonna have to go
into the little search field and you're gonna have to
look for a streaming platform that was just launched this
week not many people know about. It's called Strictflicks. You
(53:38):
specifically want to get ads supported Strictflicks, And when you
do that, you're going to find out there's like nothing there,
Like there's literally no content there yet except for a
little little trailer. And when you select that trailer, an
ad is gonna play before the trailer. That's how kind
(53:59):
of crappy this new streaming service is remember strick flick
ad supported, and when you start watching that ad, it's
gonna be for a new documentary that's coming out. And
the documentary is titled how to Say Kevin Feringi's last name?
And you're gonna watch that documentary. It is like a
four hour documentary and there's not a definitive pronunciation of
(54:19):
the last name until the very end of it. You
cannot skip forward because that AD supported layer there prevents
you from using fast forward, so you just got to
watch it. When you get to the end, you're gonna
hear that pronunciation, and as soon as you do, you're
gonna have access to an exclusive email straight to the
CEO of strick Flix happens to be me, and you
(54:42):
can ask your question.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
I have a few questions.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Well, you're gonna have to watch a four hour documentary.
But the thing on the right side.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Area you'll able to sectary come out.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
You'll be able it's out now. Okay, Yeah, the ad
actually turns out it is the documentary.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
What if I, uh, what if I just do something
else until like the three hour and fifty five minute mark.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
I mean you can I don't know how you're going
to be able to live with yourself, but sure.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Okay. Also, also, this is an important question. You've already
answered two of my questions, so haha. But third question,
why on strict flicks is our large Nerdron Collider web
series not on there?
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Well, because you know I've got that exclusive to YouTube.
Oh okay, I didn't sign a deal for that one.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Fine if that is. If you don't have four hours
to spare right now, you can reach out to us
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us through the strike, and we look forward to all
of the geekiness that can be geeked in the future
Until next time. I am Ariel cast.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Happy post strike, Ariel.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Happy post strike. So yeah, the strike is technically over
right now. The pickets are all shut down. Now, the
National Review Board, I still think, has to look at,
review and approve the new agreement between sag AFTRA and AMPTP.
They're doing that as of us recording this. But if
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all goes well and everybody votes for the updated agreement,
then we are golden.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, and already people, it's like the floodgates opened. Already,
people are promoting the heck out of upcoming projects because
of course they had been silent for this whole time.
Everyone is now treating this as essentially just a formality
for those signatures and everything else is good to go.
So we thought we would follow a suit and do
(01:21):
a kind of a segue episode back into the way
we used to do things, not fully yet, because we
didn't have all the time the reason why we didn't
have enough time to really flesh this out, as one
we were still waiting on the outcome of the strike,
and two, Ariel's got this big old calamity facing her
(01:42):
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah. Yeah, the Weird West larp that I've been playing
is having its final game, which I thought I was
ready for. But honestly, as I'm like packing up my
costumes for the last time, I got a little missed,
ye eyed. I'm sure it'll be worse to after, although
worse after not worst, maybe mold though, I do you know,
(02:06):
I'm on discord with all of my LARP friends and
we will stay in touch and we'll still do other
things together. But there's no new game on the horizon
right now from that group. There there are some of
our friends who who've played and been on staff for
a rule of three who are starting a new game
in a couple of years, but that's a year or two,
but that's a ways off yet, so just yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, and myself, that larp is called calamity, which is
why I was referencing the fact that she's got a
big old calamity ahead of hers. She doesn't have, like,
as far as I know, any looming disasters. I certainly
hope not.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I mean in the game, yes we are, I said,
so each season we've been fighting one of like the
big bad has been like one of there have been
so many big bads because we've got like Cathulian ritual lists,
We've got like card playing, crossroad demon magic people, We've
got gods and demons and monsters, and it's it's a
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scary it's supposed to be a scary, weird West sort
of a thing. And so this year we've been fighting
one of the horsemen of the apocalypse every year, and
so this year is death.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well yeah, I mean it's got to be the last one, right, So.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, So I mean that's kind of a calamity.
We started off with a big world changing event and
if we win or if we lose, in the world
of the game, it'll be a big world changing event.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So yeah, fun, Well, that's that's exciting. And since you
still have a lot of packing to do, we're going
to move this right along. We do not have a
thirty seconds or less because we didn't really have the
time to dive into that. Like usually we actually come
up with which which news items fall into that category
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and then we divide up who gets what and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And then we ignore it completely.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, no, some of us. Some of us script it
out so that we get because some of us are
very bad at sticking to thirty seconds unless we script
it out. And by some of us, I mean me.
So I don't script it out because I'm super like
meticulous or anything. I do it because if I don't,
this is what happens. What you're hearing right now, that's
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what happens.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I'm not giving you crap because I've been really bad
before the strike. I was really bad about it myself.
I'd be like, Okay, no, this is your thirty seconds
or less, but I have to talk about it so.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, that's different though. That's where you're chiming in because
you're like, oh, this made me think of this other
thing as opposed to this is my item in thirty
seconds or less, and now I'm going to spend the
next four and a half minutes talking about it, Like
that's the problem I have.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Cool, Well, real quick before we jump in instead of
thirty seconds or less, Real quick, before we jump into
our news stories. Have you watched anything or done anything
that you haven't been able to talk about recently that
you'd like to be like, yeah, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I mean like, yeah, Mostly it's all the Halloween stuff
where I was watching lots of spooky movies and most
of them are several years old obviously, so like Trick
or Treat, I rewatched twice this past season, which is unusual.
But one of those two times was the television broadcast
version of Trick or Treat, which is very tame in
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comparison to the theatrical cut. I watched it Follows, which is
one of my favorite, very sad horror movies. It's a
great horror movie, but I don't think it hit me
how sad it is the first time I saw it.
When I rewatched it, I was like, wow, this is
making me feel things. And then Summer of eighty four,
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which is a horror movie that came out a few
years ago that was kind of cashing in on that
same eighties nostalgia that Stranger Things did, an it like
those sorts of things very much in that same vein,
very very mired and rooted in the eighties, but an
interesting film with I guess it's all I'm gonna say
(06:05):
because I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who
hasn't seen it. It is available on streaming so you
can find it, So how about you.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I've watched so like, I watched some new TV, actually
not only one of it I would consider geeky. So
we watched White Lotus, which was kind of too dark
for me. I just I found it hard to like
the people in it and it was kind of depressing.
But I watched The Bear, which is like up there
(06:34):
on my top favorite shows right now, Doom Patrol. Just
I started watching the second half of the last season
of Doom Patrol. I'm not caught up. They just released
their series finale, so I'm trying to catch up to that.
And I've been watching Barry, which we all know you love,
and I'm in the part of season three where it's
starting to get really sad.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So yeah, season three is hard. Yeah, it definitely starts
to feel like a big tonal shift, especially from season one.
Although season season one had its heavy moments too, obviously,
but man, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Interesting too worse worse, right, So I've got a lot let.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Me tell you, Season three is hard. Season four at
times is excruciating in a great way like it's excruciating
because it's done so well, and by that time you're
so invested in characters, even characters as you're sitting there
thinking I should not care about this person. They are terrible,
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and yet you still feel yourself caring for them. It's
pretty phenomenal, or at least it was for me.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah. I like it because everything that they talk about
on the acting side, I mean, I've heard it all.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, see that. That makes me wonder if you're gonna
like season four as much because they really get away
from the acting side by the time you get to
season four, like that that has become much less of
a thing by the time you're at season four.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean I I honestly, I kind of like the
I appreciate the the stark, semi reality of the acting side,
but I find the Hitman stuff more entertaining. I don't
know if it's because it's less personally depressing for me
and more generally depressing, or if it's just I can
(08:24):
lose myself in that story more because it's not a
world that I'm in.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah. I will say that Kusino's story does still have
some of the acting world stuff wrapped up in it
by the time you get to season four, and that
is Kusino and oh, what's Stephen Root's character's name? Fus,
(08:50):
I watch it there, lay Fuchs. Yeah, Fuchs and Kusino
are are kind of like to me, Fuchs, Kusno and
No Hank are the highlights of season four. Oh gotcha,
but it's yeah, I'll be curious to hear what you
think once you've made your way through the whole series.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So apart from those, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And I started watching Loki, but I haven't finished. And
I didn't watch a psocas. Please don't at me, people,
I just my my husband doesn't have interest in a PSOCA,
so I have to find time to watch it on
my own. And I've been watching actual places.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Gosh, I haven't watched any of those, Like, I haven't
watched so. I never saw the Obi Won series, So
I'm that's how far And I did did a There
was a season three of The Mandalorian, was there.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I I think? So? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I then I haven't seen that, so like I think,
I just I got to a point where I was
definitely fed up with Star Wars, Like even the good
stuff I was fed up with. But I definitely didn't
want any more bad stuff, like stuff I just found
to be like exasperating. But that meant that even the
good stuff I was tired of. So I just I
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kind of stopped, and I'm right there. We'll talk about
this a little bit today, but I'm right there with
superheroes too, Like I am real close. And I don't
think it's because I'm burnt out on superheres necessarily. I
think I'm burnt out on the way superhero stories have
been told. In the most recent several outings of superhero stories,
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I just don't think they've been very satisfying. And I
think part of the problem is that for Marvel anyway,
is that they're trying to continue to build on something
that was a huge payoff in Infinity War, and I
think that was a mistake. I think instead of building
they should have probably taken a big step back and
(10:54):
started to establish stuff again. Instead of making everything like
this world threatening or even universe threatening opponent that you
have to face down again and again and again. That
just gets exhausting. Like I would love some street level
hero action.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean we're getting some of that. We're getting that
with Echo, we got that with Miss Marvel and you know,
as far as getting it, we did talk about before
the strike, how Kevin Feige said. Feig someday I will remember,
said that they needed to step back and put some
more space and breadth in between their superhero stories and
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TV shows and make sure that they're different enough from
each other so maybe you'll get your.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Wish well, and they're kind of being forced to in
the short term. And that's our first story, is that
the strike obviously put delays in production all up and
down slates us all the different studios. Disney obviously famous
for announcing big, ambitious slates way ahead of time, and
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Marvel is the key example of that. They've done it
with Star Wars two, but Marvel is like the poster
child for this. Well, now the Verge reports and the
Hollywood Reporter reports that Disney has had to shuffle that
release schedule quite a bit, and it means right now
that twenty twenty four is only going to have one
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Marvel Superhero live action film released in it, like one
actual Marvel one. We're not talking about Sony here, and
that is Deadpool three, And.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It is just weird to think of as Marvel.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, well, we knew that they were moving it over
into the Marvel universe somehow, although the details of how
that was going to happen had been somewhat hidden. I
understand that there might be a hint of this, like
of the answer of what's going on in the Marvels,
But I have not yet seen the Marvels. I just
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have unfortunately not been able to avoid all the spoilers.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So I have avoided all spoilers on that. We'll get
We could talk about it now, but it's later in
our show notes. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it then anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, well we can chat about rafter this anyway. But
so Deadpool three was supposed to come out on May
third of next year. Now it's going to be July
twenty sixth. There was a different movie that was going
to be out on July twenty sixth, that was Captain
America Brave New World with the Falcon version of Captain America.
Now that has been pushed to Valentine's Day of twenty
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twenty five. Blade, which has been delayed numerous times for
a couple of years now, was supposed to come out
on Valentine's Day twenty twenty five. Now it's been pushed
to November seventh, twenty twenty five, and thunder Bolts was
pushed from the end of next year to July twenty fifth,
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twenty twenty five. Which is interesting to me that again, Blade,
which was supposed to come out before Thunderbolts, is now
going to be coming out at the end of twenty
twenty five, So it's coming out after Thunderbolts now, which
just tells you that there's just been a lot of
issues behind the scenes in the production of Blade, which
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we knew about. Like we've heard that that script essentially
got sent to rewrites, like drastic rewrites before the strike
even happened.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, maybe. I mean, I hope that this is good.
I hope this gives them time to adjust their stories. Yeah, Like,
we still don't will make them successful.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
We still don't know what they're going to do in
the wake of the ongoing Jonathan Major's legal scan. We
don't know if that means they're going to have to
recast Kang. We don't know if that means they're going
to abandon Kang as the big bad for the end
of the next phase. If they do, then phases four, five,
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and six. I don't think you're ever going to come
out of this looking back on phases four, five, and
six of the whole Marvel timeline as being anything other
than a chaotic mess. I just I don't think there's
any way for them to totally save it. I think
they can make it entertaining. I think, especially if they
take a little more time crafting their stories and maybe
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spending less time trying to make everything a big blue
laser shoots up in the sky and you got to
stop it. I think if they do that, then people
can look back on the films of the second half
of those phases and be like nostalgic for them and
enjoy them. But man, you look at some of the
ones that have come out over the last couple of
years and like, they are not a whole lot of
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high spots, at least not in the movies. Like I
did like the Marvel Miss Marvel series, and I liked
you know, WandaVision, and I even like Falcon and the
Winter Soldier, and I liked Hawkeye, but the movies have
been a different story. Loki another good one. Yeah, I
haven't liked the.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Mood liked much. I liked Moonnight too, Honestly, yep, yep.
That wasn't a giant laser. That was a giant giant
beast gods, which is kind of different.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So yeah, well, the series are also different because you
can actually have a lot more happen in the course
of like, you know, eight to twelve hours than you
can in a movie. And people have been complaining that
a lot of the Marvel movies feel bloated anyway, Like, yeah,
they're long, but they're stretches where you feel like not
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much is happening. And from what I understand, the Marvels
does not have that problem because it is significantly shorter
than a lot of more recent Marvel films have been.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, so let's go ahead and about the Marbles. Yeah,
it's got it's only like fifty percent critically positive, it's
eighty six percent audience positive. Everybody that I know that
has seen it has really enjoyed it. They've compared it
to like Guardians of the Galaxy, and yeah, like it's
an hour and a half, right, So I would much
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rather have the problem going. Oh man, I wish a
couple of these points had been flushed out a little
bit more over, like.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Mortals or I don't even know Eternals.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It's called the Eternals, where I'm just like, this is
just way way too much.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
No, the Eternals. I was left sitting there thinking like,
what was the point of telling this out of chronological order?
Because it didn't nothing. Nothing that was revealed was particularly surprising,
and it was more confusing and less satisfying this way. Yeah.
I have seen a lot of our friends, our mutual friends,
(17:59):
who have seen The Marbles say very good things about it.
But I also imagine that those are folks who have
already seen, for example, the Miss Marvel series or the
WandaVision series, which means they already know about Monica Rambo
because they saw her in WAND Division, And they already
know about Kamala Khan because they saw her in Miss Marvel.
(18:21):
But if you're going into this and you haven't watched
any of the streaming series, I could imagine it's going
to be very jarring because you're being introduced to characters
that the film is sort of assuming you already know
who they are, and that could be really that can
really throw you off if you hadn't been watching the
streaming series.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, but I have, so I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, yeah, I am too, except for the fact that
I worry that this. I mean, we know that Marvel
is trying to take a slightly different approach, Like a
lot of the stuff that they're starting to introduce, like
the Echo series is a stand alone kind of been
off of the main Marvel branch, so it's not going
to be as integrated into everything else the way they
have been doing. And I think that might be it
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might be a good idea. It might be a good
idea for them to do that, because it's gotten so
large now that for you to it feels like you
have to do homework before you can go see a
Marvel movie or else you're going to be in the dark.
And that is not probably the best way to make
a big box office splash.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So that's that's true. That being said, the homework to
do for this movie, for the Marvels is not that much.
You've got like half a TV series for Monica, right,
You've got one series for for Miss Marvel and then
Captain Marvel. I don't know if they didn't put her
in a lot of stuff because of the reception to
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her first movie, which I thought was fine, or if
because she's just so overpowered that you just you have
to like only call her in occasionally or else it
gets ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, yeah, you don't have a problem because she can
immediately defeat the battle.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, so she hasn't been in a lot. So these
these are all characters who are like almost standalone, And
Kamala didn't really Kamala kon Miss Marvel didn't really cross
over with much of the other universe anyhow, So not yet.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah. Now I'm like, I really do look forward to
seeing it because one because I think the Kamala Khan
character is incredibly charming and and I really I want
to see more of that that character. So I'm very
excited to see it. I'm not trying to like poo
poo all over Marvel here. I'm just I have concerns.
(20:49):
I've also seen, I mean, we've talked about this before.
I've also seen obviously no shortage of bad takes of
mostly dudes out there saying how Kamala Khan ruined Marvel
and all that kind of mess, which is just absolutely
ridiculous and indicative that these are very entitled people, Like
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I get, I get not liking something, and that's totally legit.
But there's a difference between saying I didn't like this
and this has been ruined, because that now you're making
a declaration that should be applicable across the entire fandom.
Right everyone would say, oh it's ruined. It's clearly not ruined.
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There are people who really enjoy it. Just because you
don't like something doesn't mean it's bad exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I want more things to go the route of Miss Marvel,
because that makes you that's enjoyable, that's actually fun.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, I'm cool with it too, Like I really enjoyed
that series, so I do want to see it. Hopefully
i'll see it before too long. But we've got some
other stuff to chat about. One of those is the
man whose name Ariel cannot pronounce, Kevin Figi, and I'm
just gonna say his name. No, I'm gonna say his
(22:11):
name differently every time, so he'll never know. So Kevin
Feige helmed it was supposed to helm a Star Wars movie.
This was something that was being talked about a couple
of years ago that when they were talking about all
these different Star Wars plans they had, there were a
couple of different filmmakers who were given the nod to
write or direct or both an upcoming Star Wars movie,
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and one by one those have kind of fallen through,
and Kevin fiej his one has also followed in that
that trend they never really got beyond kind of just
a wouldn't it be cool if you wanted to do this?
He said, yes, that would be cool, but never apparently
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went much further than that, and now it's just not
on the table anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
This is one of those things that kind of if
I learned about it, I completely forgot what was going
to happen, maybe because I was said that the Rhan
Johnson trilogy wasn't happening, which.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know's supposed to do one too.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, she was supposed to do Rogue Squadron.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I would have been interested in that.
At the same time, I wasn't super happy with Wonder
Woman eighteen nineteteen eighty four something, and uh.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You know, one actor strike and now Aeriel can't name
any geeky properties.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Well, you know what, it's interesting because we did get
hit with a bunch of like trailers as like you said,
it's everything is flooded as soon as the strike was
over stuff that I like completely slipped my radar because
I've still been reading news even though I haven't been
like entertainment news, even though I haven't been talking about it,
(24:00):
and we've got a mass of things that I was
just like, that's a thing. That's a thing I didn't
know about that, even if like the media reports on it.
If you don't have that you're you were saying earlier, Jonathan,
if you don't have the the the talent behind it
also promoting it, it doesn't get as much, it doesn't
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make as many ways.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, No, the talent being part of marketing these films.
It's clear how important that is now that the strike
is over, because like some of my favorite promotional moments
for films came from you know, stars doing a press
junket and having really fun interviews, often with a gimmick
(24:46):
like yeah, you're being interviewed, but you're also telling us
what you think of these snacks like that kind of stuff.
And the fact that that was off the table for
months really I think hurt a lot of the marketing efforts.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, speaking of which, I absolutely love the Barbie movie,
which I don't think I was able to talk about
on the show because I saw it after the strike started.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Who I enjoyed it too, I very much had. I
had a really good time watching it, and I expected
I would like it, but it really was thoroughly entertaining.
I very much enjoyed it. Still need to see Oppenheimer, though.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I haven't. I haven't watched that either. It's just
so long.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Well, it's also heavy stuff, right, Like I mean, you're
talking about, you know, atomic bombs and that stuff. Let's
talk about something that's less heavy. Let's talk about a
supporting character in a Charles Dickens novel who's got his
own series.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, The Artful Dodger is coming to Disney Plus, which
watching the trailer is not at all what I expected
from it. Kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, So, first of all, I think it's only on
Disney Plus in Australia. I think here. I think here
in America it's gonna be on Hulu. But we'll have
a story later that talks about why in a few months.
That's not really gonna mean anything, but anyway, Yeah, it's
set in Australia, which I did not know until I
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looked into it further, I didn't realize, like oh, it's
supposed to be in Australia, but yeah, this is this
is the artful Dodger who is Oliver Twist's friend, and
he's a pickpocket and he's like the chief pickpocket in
Fagan the the the thief master type character in Oliver Twist.
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He's like the top thief out of all of Fagan's boys.
And in the series he is a young man, he's
not a child anymore, and a doctor at least posing
as one. It's interesting because like you know, he's he's
performing like a surgeon, which is a weird Yankovic song.
(26:57):
But no, he's performing like a surgeon, which historically he
could get away with because surgeons and physicians were two
very different professions. If you were a physician, you were
medically educated and you would be addressed as doctor. If
you were a surgeon, you were essentially a barber and
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you would be referenced as mister. So if he's coming
across as if he's posing as a surgeon, he could
really get away with that, especially in Australia in the
eighteen hundreds. But yeah, yeah, you know, you see him
encounter his old crime buddy Fagan, who has also shown Up,
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played by David Thulis, and I have to say, like,
I watched this trailer. I watched it expecting, especially once
I saw how old Dodger was. I watched it expecting
to hate it. I did not. I thought it was
pretty charming.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I also think it was charming. And it's interesting you
said you saw how old he was in the poster
for or like the little screenshot of it posters maybe
the wrong word. I thought that the art for Everybody
looked super young, and I thought it was gonna be
like another young teeny bopper thing but with an Oliver
twist haha. But no, like he goes between looking like
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he's the artful Dodger goes between looking like he's twelve
and like he's thirty five.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So yeah, yeah, I agree. It's it looks cute. There's
an obvious love interest thrown him there, and I'm sure
it's gonna be a lot of him trying to navigate
like Fagan wanting to pull him back into a life
of crime, his current profession likely being only somewhat legitimate.
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I'm eager to see it. Looks like it's gonna be fun,
and yeah, I hope that it is. Once it starts
to stream at the end of this month.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Another thing that we got a trailer for was Ghostbus two.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yes, Ghostbusters two, Winter is Coming.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Winter is Coming, which is really interesting because we had
barely heard that it was being done before the strike happened,
and now there's a trailer out.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, it's it looks like The Day After Tomorrow mixed
with Ghostbusters plus like a little bit of Game of
Thrones because you want you expect the Night King to
come out in any second.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, and so maybe if you watch the trailer, maybe
he does. Uh uh. It's it's interesting because my husband
watched the trailer and said, it doesn't it looks good.
I like that they're doing something kind of different. But
also it doesn't feel like Ghostbusters to me, and I
watch Alma feels perfectly ghostbusteries to me, ghostbusteries, Ghostbustery.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I mean, it's hard for me to say if something
looks really Ghostbusters ish to me because there's only the
one movie, and so it's hard to there's no what
I'm sorry, there's like, what's the one? Where are you.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Saying five movies?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
There's one movie, Ariel, there's one movie back in the
back in the early nineteen eighties, and it was just
the one movie.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
There's the three, and then there's also the all female version,
and then there's Afterlife, and now there's this one. So
that's six movies.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You must have slipped through one of those one of
those multiverse dimensions. There are just the one movie.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, I'm going back there then, because I liked. I liked.
There's at least two Ghostbusters. I thought there were three,
but there's at least two.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There's okay, if you're talking about the original cast, there
are two. Then you had then you had the the
the remake, the all the all women remake. Then you
had the the more recent After Life Ghostbusters After Life,
so you could argue that's the third for the original two.
(31:00):
Than now you've got this one. But you know, I
still haven't watched After Life. I tried to watch the
twenty sixteen Ghostbusters and it was not for me.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
The twenty sixteen Ghostbusters the shining. The shining part of
that was thor as the Secretary.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'll take your word for it. I don't think I
even got that far. It's just it was not for me,
which is fine. Again, I'm not saying the movie's bad.
I'm saying I did not enjoy it, but the yeah,
I watched this trailer and I thought, eh, it's you know,
nothing about this is upsetting me. Necessarily, it's coming across
(31:46):
maybe a little more like it's trying to be a
little more serious than what you would normally associate because
like Ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters was essentially a bunch of
schlubby guys being exterminators. They're just ghost exterminators, and so
it was very much comedy first and then everything else second.
(32:08):
And I don't think that's the same tone you get
with the two most recent Ghostbuster movies.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So the most recent Ghostbusters movie, you absolutely get that
tone because most of it is referencing the original movie.
So After Life is largely references to things that you
loved previously. But I really loved the cast of Afterlife
and I thought it had some really great some of
the original moments were really good. So I look forward
(32:35):
to this new movie. I hopek I hope it brings
the joy that I have for Ghostbusters to a new generation.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Well, something else that we saw it actually came out
a little more than a week ago now, was a
trailer for Lisa Frankenstein, which I think Ariel and Night
booked about a while ago. Yeah, we talked about when
it was in development, but now we've got we've seen
a trailer for it, and I think both you and
I had sort of similar reactions to this where it
(33:05):
was again, wasn't quite the tone we were expecting.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, when when it was being talked about in development.
So it is a It is written by the individual
who wrote Juno and Jennifer's Body, and it's directed by
Zelda Robbins, who is William Robinson's William Robbins his daughter.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Lord.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I can't pluralize anything today or possessive anything.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
How do you say Kevin's last name?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Look? Kfiji, k fabe, k fabe. It's I'm going on
a quick buddy trail. It's amazing. Tony and I watched
The FP a long time ago, as everybody knows, and
now he sees Jason Trost and Jason Trost's brother's name
(33:52):
everywhere and he's like, whoa, they're involved in this. I'm like,
they do a lot of like filmmaking that is not
the FP and all superheros must I do a lot
of stuff anyhow. Yeah, So rob Zelda Williams directed, and
it was it was supposed to feel like an old
eighties movie and it looks cute, but it doesn't quite
The trailer doesn't quite catch that vibe.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I think I don't have anything else to add
to that, so I think, rather than that, I'll just
carry on. And I'm also calling an audible and I
figure we'll just do all the trailer stuff together and
talk about mass effect after that. So okay, that means
next up. We also saw a trailer. Finally got a
trailer for the Netflix live action remake of Avatar the
(34:36):
Last Airbender, and I thought it looked pretty good. I
mean I say that as someone who did not get
into the original animated series. I should show it to
my partner, because boy, howdy did she get into it.
I should show it to her and see what her
reaction is.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah. I did watch the cartoon and joyed the cartoon.
The trailer looks very pretty Honestly. You don't get to
see a lot of the characters interacting. You just get
to basically see live action character art and scenery art.
You don't get to see a lot of plot. You
don't get to see a lot of acting in it yet,
(35:17):
so I think it looks good so far. It definitely
hits as in like, oh, yes, this is this is
the story that I loved just visually. But you know,
you don't get to see aang being a dork bucket.
You don't get to see Sokka being a dork bucket.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, you don't. You don't get to see m Night
Shayamalan try to ruin the thing that you loved.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I yeah, that it wasn't great.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
No, my partner, My partner gave me a full rundown
after she came back. I did not go with her
to watch it. She went with some of her friends
who were also fans of the show. And I didn't
understand about eighty percent of what she said because I
didn't have the reference material. But I could tell it
(36:05):
wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah. Yeah, My husband and I and his roomade at
the time. I think we were all angry, and we
all like hate. Hate is too strong of a word,
but for lack of a better term, like hate, dared
each other to watch it. So we all watched it together,
and none of us, from the very big fans to
the casual fan to the I don't like the cartoon
(36:28):
enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, so it was a movie for no one.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I'm sure it was for somebody.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But the series looks like it could, at least from
a visual standpoint, be more faithful to the source material.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Here is hoping, But that's something we knew was coming out.
You know what. I did not know Inside Out too
was a thing.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Neither did I. I still haven't seen Elemental, like I
haven't seen the last Pixar film, you know, but I
did not know the Inside Out two was gonna be
a thing. And this is a continuation of the story
from Inside Out. We're still with the same character and
the same emotions. But it turns out that as you
get older, you get a little more complicated and maybe
(37:13):
you maybe you end up developing emotions that are in
addition to things like discussed anger, joy, sorrow, you know
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, which I mean you can have before puberty too,
you can have at a young young age.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
But sure, I think what they're I think what they're
doing though, is the whole like like like emotional complexity
as you get older kind of storyline.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
But yeah, yeah, so the trailer looked okay.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It was more of a teaser I think than anything else.
And yeah, I think it looked like it's kind of
like your typical Pixar teaser. It's just it's just giving
you a hint at what the story is going to be. Uh.
I don't know how I feel about this, only not
because so I'm not the biggest fan of Insight Out.
I thought it was fine. I didn't think it was bad,
but it doesn't stand out as one of my favorite
(38:07):
Pixar movies. And I don't know if I would have
rather had seen a completely original sort of world, because
arguably that's what Elemental was trying to be, and I
never felt the desire to actually go and see it.
So it could just be that I haven't seen something
from Pixar that has grabbed me the way say the
(38:29):
original Toy Story movie did, or Finding Nemo or even
Monsters Inc.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, oh, Monsters Inc. I loved Monsters Inc. And Finding
Nemo Toy Story was my least favorite. I liked the
second or third Toy Story better. I can't remember anyhow. Yeah,
I I haven't watched a lot of Pixar and Disney
animation lately. I need to again, It's just it's I
(39:01):
enjoy watching movies with other people, and if I'm going
to sit and watch a movie by myself, I have
to really be motivated to do it.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So totally, yeah, I'm the same way, which is why
that's why I'm also way behind on various series and stuff,
because most of it is stuff that my partner would
also like to watch, and it's just hard to find
time where we're both conscious and wanting to see something
because we work slightly different hours and it just means that,
(39:30):
like it's when we do have that time, we might
want to do something else together rather than just sit
and watch something. So that's the main reason why I'm way.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Behind, whereas my partner just is not motivated to watch
animation like he liked. I think the thing he liked
best most recently was Kung Fu Panda How to Train
Your Dragon. He thought was okay, but like it's just
not his. He liked the older stuff, but it's not
like super his thing.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Got it well, something that should be my thing, except
that they didn't tell me that it was. That was
The Mean Girls, the musical trailer. And the reason why
I say that something they didn't tell me is that
if you watch the trailer for Mean Girls the Musical.
You would be forgiven if after watching it you walked
(40:18):
away saying, huh, I thought that was supposed to be
a musical.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's what I said when I walked away from the trailer,
not knowing that there was going to be a Mean
Girls movie, because that slipped my brain. I know, I
learned it at some point. Yeah, there's like one dance
number in it, and it's kind of in the background.
You it's not even fully realized within the trailer.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
So yeah, and they don't play any of the songs
from the musical. They have one lead in line. There's
a lead in line to the song revenge Party, which
is We're gonna make her Pay, and that leads right
into the song Revenge Party from Mean Girls the Musical,
and that's in the trailer. And when that line was
I was like, oh, wait, is this supposed to be
(41:01):
the musical? I remember now they weren't they going to
make a movie of the musical version, like, because for
a while I just thought it was just literally a
remake of Mean Girls, you know, a straight up remake
and not a musical remake. And it was only after
I sat there for a bit where I realized, oh, no,
this is supposed to be the musical, but for some reason,
they're not including any of the singing and only a
(41:23):
little bit of the dancing, and it's dancing in a
way that you could think was supposed to be happening
within the world in a non musical fashion. So I
was really confused.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean, maybe they didn't get to recording the singing
parts well before the strike.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Who knows, Well, that would be really weird for them
to put a trailer like it would be more likely
they would delay the film.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Then I would think so too. I don't yeah, I
don't know why they did what they did. It looks okay.
It's got a great cast. It's got a really good cast.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, including an original member of the Broadway cast for
Me and Girls is in it. And she's playing a teacher.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Now, is that Tina Fey?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
No, well, Tina Fey was in the original film and
is now in this one too, but she was not
in the Broadway cast.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
No. It was a creator of the Broadway show, wasn't she.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yes, she was the creator. She was a writer on
the film, and she wrote the musical, and she's in
the original film. And she's in the movie musical.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Film, technically involved in the musical, but not not on stage,
I mean a member of the cast.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Okay, she was one of She originally played Gretchen Wiener's
in the Broadway cast, and now she's playing a teacher
in the movie adaptation of the musical.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, that is fun.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I guess we can go with the not the trailer
we're not getting before we talk about our one video
game thing.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Oh, you're talking about the Coyote Versus Acme.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah, which another movie that if I learned that it
was happening, I completely forgot.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, So, a feature length animated film about Wiley Coyote,
the Looney Tunes character who's always after the road Runner. Reportedly,
this movie was essentially finished to the point where they
were showing it to test audiences and reportedly getting very
good reactions from those test audiences, and then Warner Brothers
(43:35):
Discovery announced that it will not be releasing Coyote Versus
Acme and instead will shelve it forever and take it
as another tax cut.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, which I'm kind of surprised because John Cena was
involved in that one, and they're keeping other of his things.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, I can tell you this. David Zaslov doesn't care.
He doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I know. It's sad, I it is. It is unfortunate,
especially since we just came out of a strike trying
to get producers to care more.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, it's just not just not fair.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
There are there are individual producers who do care very much.
It's it's the large, larger organization. Yeah, just because like
there was a there was a CW producer, writer or
director who during the strike was like, I'm giving money
to actors because we need to we need to step up,
and but they didn't know. He didn't have sway in
(44:33):
the negotiations.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
So yeah, so it's really disappointing because like it's not
that I was crying out for a a Coyote versus
Acme film. I didn't even know it existed. But I
always liked seeing more animation. I love seeing animated films
come out. I love the Looney Tunes characters, and it
would be really fun to see a good Looney Tunes movie,
(44:58):
not a space Jam, but a one. And it's just
really knowing how many people were spending years of their
lives putting this thing together, only to see the company
decide we're not going to show this to anyone because
we'd rather take a tax credit on it than to
actually release it. That is just so disheartening. It comes
(45:22):
across to me as cruel to all the creatives who
lent their time and talent to making it become a
thing and then just see it being treated as No,
it's more valuable to have it as a tax credit
than for it to be a work of art.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
I agree. I agree. And on the other end of
the spectrum, we did get a trailer for Mass Effect
five on End seven Day, which was this week, and
the hitches that the game may not It is being
estimated that the game may not come out until twenty
twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I'm looking at my calendar. That's a ways away it.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Is, and that's not an official release date from is
it BioWare? Yeah, that's just what other people are like
looking at other game release stuff. It is still in
early development. I think that first of all, the teeny
tiny little teaser we get looks beautiful. It looks beautiful,
and I already want to make the costume and I
(46:26):
know that I don't have that skill, but I know
some of our listeners do. So I look forward if
you guys make the costume. But I know that just
like a couple weeks or a month ago or something
like that. A couple months ago, we were talking about
how people were worried that the next mass Effect may
not even be a thing. So they're like, yes, this
(46:48):
is still a thing. It's just still in development. And
while that's early to give a trailer, I would rather
them make sure that the game is ready to go
and ready to be played and have a good experience,
rather than rush because everybody wants it right now.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, I think it's more along the lines of reassuring
the fan base that this is not something that's just
in limbo. It's something that's actively being worked on. And
while I can understand that they didn't give a timeframe
of when it'll come out, because if it's in early development,
you literally may not have a good solid idea of
(47:24):
when it'll come out, not even to the year right,
because so much can happen. But maybe they should have
said this won't be coming out in the next few years,
but we are working on it, just because otherwise you're
going to have We're gonna see the same thing we
always see, which is that every year that passes, people
are going to be like, so, where's the next mass Effect?
(47:46):
Just like everyone always asks Rockstar, where's the next GTA?
Like when's that coming out? And it has to be
I mean, I know there are a lot of developers
out there who handle that really well that I am,
and that's got to get very frustrating when behind the
scenes you can see how complicated the project is and
(48:10):
how everything needs to fit together properly for it to work,
and from the outside you're just seeing time go by
and say, why isn't it out already?
Speaker 1 (48:19):
So, yeah, yeah, that's rough. We have just a couple
more stories about streaming networks in general to talk about
before the end of this episode, and one of which
is that Disney and Hulu. Disney Plus and Hulu are
combining next year.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, so we had talked about this earlier this year,
that this was a very likely thing to have happen.
I think even last spring we were talking about how
the general expectation was that by this winter we would
see Disney Plus and Hulu combine. Disney has been after
the full purchase of Hulu for a while. Comcast has
(48:59):
held on to one third of Hulu and now Disney's
going to be paying like at least eight point six
billion dollars to get that one third of Hulu. From
what we understand, there will be a beta program where
people who are currently subscribed both to Disney Plus and
to Hulu may get a chance to use the unified
(49:21):
streaming platform where they're able to access all the content
across both platforms in a single space. But that's a
beta and it's only going to be open to people
who are currently subscribed to both of those services, which
means I'm out because I still am not subscribed to Hulu.
I have to wait till next spring.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I will be interested to look at this because, yeah,
it's it's figuring out how to content control things if
you've got a family, because Hulu is not. There's a
lot of stuff that a Disney parent may not want
their kid to see.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
There's quite a bit of stuff on Disney Plus as well.
I mean, I'm thinking about like the Daredevil series for examples.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I have started doing that I forgot. But also Echo
is going to be super dark. It looks more like
the Netflix stairedubl than it looks like I've said this
a couple of times. Sorry, it looks more like the
Netflix Stairedvel than it does The recent Marvel TV show.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah Yeah, Hawkeye that introduced Echo was far less graphic
in violence than even the teaser for Echo was.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, which I'm excited for the character. I guess we'll
see about about the violence. I don't know how I
feel about it yet. And the last thing we have
is if you are a Verizon customer, you might be
offered a Netflix Max bundle to help save you some money.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah. So, as in Netflix and Max, the streaming service
what used to be called HBO Max, Verizon is apparently
considering this. As we're recording this, this is not yet
a thing, but they're apparently considering this bundle, which is
very very unusual because unlike Disney Hulu, which will both
be owned by Disney, Netflix and Max are not owned
(51:07):
by the same company. Right, You've got Netflix and you've
got Warner Brothers Discovery. But apparently Verizon is going to
offer this bundle where I think it's going to be
seventeen dollars a month or something like that for the
ads supported versions of both Netflix and Max. So this
will have ads with it, but you would be able
(51:29):
to get access to both catalogs for less than you
would if you were subscribed to each individually, and so
there are a lot of questions about whether or not
this is what we're going to see in the future,
if we're going to see more bundles, which is weird
because it starts to get more and more like cable
like it starts to feel more like cable packages to me.
(51:49):
And it's so funny because for the longest time, people
are looking at streaming as finally a way to disrupt
cable and to have a more consumer friendly approach to
getting media, but that's not really been how it's panned
out over the years. With so many different streaming services,
each with their own you know, library of exclusive content,
(52:11):
it has made it very difficult to be a consumer.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah yeah, well if again, if you're a Verrison customer,
hopefully this pans out for you if you don't mind
ad supported content, which does help pay for your content
flat out, Like, if you don't want to pay those rates,
you have to have the ads. So if you want
content to be made and not shelled for tax write offs,
(52:37):
So that's it. Hopefully next week we will be back
to the good and normal, our old, our old selves
with show notes and maybe even some mashups and things
like that. You know, we are going into the Thanksgiving
and Christmas holiday or you know, seasonal holidays. So Nathan
(53:00):
and I haven't discussed schedules, but we will let you
know as soon as we know if there are any
upsets to our release schedule. Thank you for listening. And Jonathan,
if they want to reach out to us and talk
about things that we haven't been able to talk about
in a while, how can they do so.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, So you're gonna go on to your streaming box
whatever console or cable box, whatever you use your smart
TV to access streaming services. You're gonna have to go
into the little search field and you're gonna have to
look for a streaming platform that was just launched this
week not many people know about. It's called Strictflicks. You
(53:38):
specifically want to get ads supported Strictflicks, And when you
do that, you're going to find out there's like nothing there,
Like there's literally no content there yet except for a
little little trailer. And when you select that trailer, an
ad is gonna play before the trailer. That's how kind
(53:59):
of crappy this new streaming service is remember strick flick
ad supported, and when you start watching that ad, it's
gonna be for a new documentary that's coming out. And
the documentary is titled how to Say Kevin Feringi's last name?
And you're gonna watch that documentary. It is like a
four hour documentary and there's not a definitive pronunciation of
(54:19):
the last name until the very end of it. You
cannot skip forward because that AD supported layer there prevents
you from using fast forward, so you just got to
watch it. When you get to the end, you're gonna
hear that pronunciation, and as soon as you do, you're
gonna have access to an exclusive email straight to the
CEO of strick Flix happens to be me, and you
(54:42):
can ask your question.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
I have a few questions.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Well, you're gonna have to watch a four hour documentary.
But the thing on the right side.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Area you'll able to sectary come out.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
You'll be able it's out now. Okay, Yeah, the ad
actually turns out it is the documentary.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
What if I, uh, what if I just do something
else until like the three hour and fifty five minute mark.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
I mean you can I don't know how you're going
to be able to live with yourself, but sure.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Okay. Also, also, this is an important question. You've already
answered two of my questions, so haha. But third question,
why on strict flicks is our large Nerdron Collider web
series not on there?
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Well, because you know I've got that exclusive to YouTube.
Oh okay, I didn't sign a deal for that one.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Fine if that is. If you don't have four hours
to spare right now, you can reach out to us
on social media on Twitter where llenc Underscore podcast, on Facebook, Instagram, threads,
and discord. We are large Nerdron Collider. You can check
out show notes. They will be up late for this episode.
I will start posting them again, but I'm going to
(55:53):
be out of town this weekend, so you can do
that at large neurdron Collider dot com and if you
want to send us an email, you can do so
or to either tell us something wrong, to just drop
us a line, or to ask for a discord invite.
That is Large Nerdron Pod at gmail dot com. We
really love hearing from you. Thank you for sticking with
(56:14):
us through the strike, and we look forward to all
of the geekiness that can be geeked in the future
Until next time. I am Ariel cast.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
And I am Jonathan. Sorry, I just shelved the documentary
for our text credit Strickland. The Large Nerdron Collider was
created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
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