LNC Cruising Out of Control

Jonathan talks about being on a cruise, Ariel talks about her Broadway connection, and both hosts darn near lose their minds because they're recording on a Saturday.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Nerdon Collier Podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel Castin and with me, as always is be
a wonderful genre industry group.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh hoy, hoy, Ariel hoy HOI I am back from
the sea. You are, Yeah, I hate the sea and
everything in it.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah. We're recording this on Saturday, January twenty fifth. We
usually record on Fridays, but I just got back from
a cruise, a Disney cruise as it were, and so
we decided we would record today rather than go, you know,
like another hiatus. I've got a lot of travel coming

(00:58):
up over the next couple of weeks, so we're going
to work around that as best we can, because we
feel bad that, you know, we had so much time
off over the last couple of months.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah. I also have a tiny bit of travel. But
well we'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, we will get you your dosage of geekery one
way or another.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah. Yeah, who is on weekend already?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah? Well, I mean it's it's in the afternoon on Saturday.
We have been. We've been in weekend mode for a bit,
so Ariel, before we started recording, before we even got
on camera or anything, you had sent me a message
and I was delighted to hear that you have started
to watch Severance.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah. I've been trying to watch it like all week since,
maybe like last week even. But it's one of those
things that were like, well, when we started, we want
to sit down and pay attention to it, and you know,
if it's late at night. I've been having some very
late nights, so if it's late at night, you know,
I don't want to be sleepy and only paying half
attention to it. So we started last night. We got

(02:10):
through the first three episodes. It is a lot of fun.
It's kind of scratching that lost itch that I have
of like I want to watch a show with a
lot of mystery and bizarreness and not know what's happening.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, you're trying to figure out what's going on, what
is significant, what's not significant, and what's funny is stuff
that you will be absolutely certain is insignificant later becomes important.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, I assume everything's significant, but it's it is so
well written. In my opinion, Yeah, I'm so glad you
recommended it because I was a little on the fence.
It sounded interesting, but I wasn't sure. But for being
so bizarre, it's also the humor is incredibly relatable. I

(03:00):
wouldn't call it a comedy, but there is a good
amount of humor in it.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, especially especially character based humor. Yeah. Like like, for example,
the brother in law of Adam Scott's character is such
a new age weirdo.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I just I first episode and I'm like, how did
a sister that cool marry that person?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, I mean you got to look at my relationship
with my partner and then you say, all right, it
happens in real life too, really cool people like my
partner end up with total dufices.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough. You know, normally I would
I would stop you from insulting yourself. But Becca is
remarkably cool.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
So yeah, yeah, Beca's Beca's the coolest, so cool uh.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
So uh yeah, So I'm really enjoying it. Also, it's
funny because last weekend I got together with some friends
my D and D group, and we're going to try.
One of them got a new RPG in called The
Triangle agency and we're gonna try that. And it's about

(04:06):
a bunch of people who are weird that work in
this really weird meow Wolf Severance kind of corporation that
go after anomalies but nothing's really explained and it's really
bizarre and just so it fits right in. It's really
helping me develop my character.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
That's cool. Yeah, I remember when I first watch it,
started watching Severance like I was coming to some certain
ideas about what was going on, and by the end
of the season, I was delighted to find out that
I didn't anticipate the actual like some of the bigger
reveals of the season at all. And that's my favorite

(04:47):
kind of show where, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Don't want to give the writers too much credit because
I'm also dense. So often I don't often I don't notice,
Like sometimes I notice stuff, but it's like small stuff
that doesn't actually pertain to the narrative. It's more like, oh,
I noticed that they use this particular editing trick or

(05:12):
camera trick, and unfortunately that pulls me out of the
moment and I'm thinking more about the making of the
thing instead of the thing itself. That was my big
problem with Nosfaratu is not that Nosfaratu was a bad movie,
but that it's like I could see the filmmaking happening
in front of me, and that's what distracted me. So

(05:35):
but yeah, no, Severance has has a great reveal, and
I've heard mixed things about the second season. I haven't
watched it yet, so I don't have a personal opinion.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
But i've heard mixed things. I am purposefully stepping away
from I mean, I'm still on social media, but I
am limiting my time on there as a general New
Year's resolute anyhow. Yeah, so just because I have limited
time in the day and I want to spend it

(06:08):
doing more productive things. But I still get on there
and I've seen some interviews with people, so I feel
like I have spoilers, but I don't for season two.
But it's okay because as I'm watching it, I still
don't know what's going on. I have a lot of theories.
That's the other thing I'll say about it is I
like shows that make you think, because I don't. Sometimes

(06:29):
I like to be mindless, but sometimes I like to think,
which is why I wanted to have a good attention
span for Severance. But it doesn't feel like work.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
It's fun, right, And my biggest hope is that the
showrunners had a firm idea of what's actually happening from
the get go, and that they're not doing a loss
where it slowly becomes clear that they were kind of
making it up as they were going along, because that's

(06:58):
my biggest problem with Abram JJ Abrams in general is
that I often feel like he gets really good ideas,
he does not flesh them out enough before they start
going into production, and the next thing he knows he's
in a corner and he has to kind of cheat
to get out of the corner or to find some
sort of unsatisfying solution. And one way to work around

(07:22):
that is flesh your ideas out enough so that you
know where you're going to. It may be that the
destination changes along the way, that's okay, but at least
have an idea of where you're going. Don't be like
Abrams and lost or was it who was it that
did X Files? I can't remember his name now, but

(07:43):
X Files was the same way right Like X Files
was supposedly planned from the get go, but it became
very clear as the Chris Carter, thank you. It became
very clear as the seasons went on that Chris Carter
did not have a real roadmap for where that's series
was going to go.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I've only seen like four episodes of The X Files.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's fine. I mean, if it's not your thing, it's
not your thing. Like back in the day when that
was on TV, it was such a revolutionary series, you know,
But now we've got tons of stuff that is clearly
inspired by X Files that in some ways is better.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I mean, I think that it's less that it wasn't
my thing. Is I didn't watch it when it was new,
so it does feel a little a little dated. And
then also like I know so much, like even just
watching Jeopardy, I know so much of what's happened in
The X Files that it isn't a surprise to me anymore.
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
There are a couple of episodes. There's one episode in
particular called Home that to this day is one of
the most disturbing episodes of television, like just broadcast TV,
that I've ever seen, and it's one of my favorite episodes.
It is my favorite episode of X Files. I remember
when that came out because I was in college, which
means you were in diapers. So not quite, but I'm

(09:06):
making a joke.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, no, Jonathan, I definitely was not in diapers.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Buriel was a late bloomer when it comes to body training,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I was an early bloomer in all things in child
Actually I don't know about potty training, but like I
started reading very early.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
So yeah, well I'm merely joshing, but yeah, Home was
what you certainly would have been too young to have
watched Home. That was a dark and disturbing episode, but
it happened. It did one of my favorite things in
the world, which is where you pair like a really

(09:45):
disturbing and violent scene with music that is kind of cheerful,
and the juxtaposition of the two makes the scene more
even more impactful like it to me, it hits way
harder then if the music was like your your stereotypical
horror music.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Because the comforting music makes you feel safe, and then
they're invading on that safe.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Feeling exactly exactly, and it was. It was Johnny Mathis's
song Wonderful, wonderful, Oh oh, such a such a incredible
act of disturbing violence. Yeah, I highly recommend if you
if you like creepy. Also, Home is one of those
episodes that was a standalone, like it wasn't deeply connected

(10:34):
to the rest of the mythology of the series, so
you could, you know, you could watch it like it
was just an episodic television show and not really be
too out of.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
The loop, too scary for me.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Per I think you can handle it, but I think
it would be pushing your limits.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, I will skip that one if I go back
to X Files.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh it's so good though, Well.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
We'll see, we'll see. There's I have to finish Severance first, yes,
but also I am caught up on pop culture Jeopardy.
I will say this one. I expected it to be
a short season, like eight episodes, and it is absolutely not.
There's like eighty one teams wow, and then they go
to the quarterfinals, and then they go to the semifinals

(11:18):
and then the finals. So it's a nice long run
of episodes, which I really like. And then the other
cool thing I think they're doing is there's been a
big debate among some of my friends groups of whether
it's better to release weekly or to release all it
once and allow for a binge. But a shorter subscription period,

(11:39):
and they are releasing three episodes a week, so at
least during the initial rounds, which gives you the feeling
like you're binging, but also makes you come back every week.
And I think that's incredibly smart and I'm quite enjoying it.
Although this week was not my week for pop culture Jeopardy,
I didn't know many of the answers. I felt a
little silly.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, I mean, three a week to me, makes perfect
sense for like a game show, you know, because traditionally
you would get those like one a day, right, Jeopardy
Monday through Friday. Right, So uh so something like that
to me feels like it falls right in with the
traditional release of game show formats.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, so what did you watch?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
A whole bunch of whole bunch of Disney stuff and
Marvel stuff? Because I was on a Disney boat, And
I mean, technically I could have seen movies I have
not watched before, like Mowana Too, but I.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Didn't, or Elements Question.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Elementals but I didn't, or Mufasa but I didn't. Instead,
I watched a bunch of stuff I have seen before.
So I watched a bunch of the Marvel movies older
ones because they were there. I'm being honest, Like it
was when I was just kind of hanging out in
the room and relaxing, and you know, I didn't want

(13:04):
to go around and do stuff in the on the ship.
I was watching lots of them. But what was funny
was that I'm sure I noticed this at the time,
but I forgot about it. I was watching ant Man
in the Wasp and was delighted when someone I know
shows up on screen and even had a couple of lines,

(13:25):
and I was like, I totally forgot she was in
this movie. I'm assuming I noticed it, but I'd only
ever seen it once because the Becca's afraid of insects,
so she will not watch the ant Man movies, Like
that's just a no go from the beginning, and and
so I've only seen them once each until now. Now

(13:46):
I've seen ant Man and ant Man in the losp twice.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
One like, I think that's Sueila Sueila el Atar. She
played Agent Pearson. Yeah, so she's a local writer and
actor here in Atlanta. She's actually done quite a bit
of stuff on screen. But I've known her for years
and years and years, and one of my favorite things

(14:13):
she ever did wasn't a movie. She wrote a touching
play about her relationship with her father and she anchored
it to their shared love of Doctor Who. And her
father is from Egypt, so she's a first generation, you know,

(14:35):
American citizen and her parents were from Egypt, are from Egypt,
and actually that's I believe she's in Egypt right now
visiting family. But yeah, so she had this great play
that talked about her relationship with her father and related
it with their love of the show Doctor Who. And

(14:58):
it was very very sweet and funny, and uh, it
just it was nice to remember that. Like seeing her
on screen, I just had this big flashback to that
show she did years ago. But anyway, yeah, I didn't
watch anything new. I just saw a lot of Disney stuff.

(15:19):
They did do three stage productions on the ship while
I was gone. So they did Tangled, a stage production
of Tangled, which was adorable. They did a stage production
called Twice Charmed, which is a retelling of Cinderella, and
it's the premises what if at the end of Cinderella,

(15:41):
if Lady Tremaine and the Stepsisters were visited by a
wicked fairy godfather and they were able to turn time
back and destroy the Slippers before the Prince could meet Cinderella,
before he could you know, find her. And it's funny
because I've seen that show now three times and it's

(16:02):
changed each time. They've they've gone back and they've reworked it.
Uh And honestly, the second version is my favorite. This
one was. This one was still still good, still entertaining,
but I think the second version, which had more of
the Stepsisters in them, and they're my favorite characters. Yeah,
that was my real favorite. This one had a little

(16:24):
less of the Stepsisters and a little bit more of Gus,
Gus and Jacques the Mice.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean, that's fine. I don't dislike Gus gust In Shock,
but the Anastasia and Drazilla Drizilla Drizilla are delightful. Yeah,
you're delightful. I will forget. That sounds I want to
hear about the third show too, But that sounds wonderful.
It sounds so wonderful that I'm not mad that it's
not what I expected it to be, which was the

(16:51):
life of the two Princes into the woods when they
weren't singing agony.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's funny because there is kind of a moment like
that in the show, because there's when Cinderella's prince is
searching for her. There's one point where he encounters snow White.
It's just done as a joke, but he encounters snow
White and she he says, I'm looking for my princess
and she turns so she says, yes and it's not

(17:20):
it's not you. And she said someday my prince will come.
And then she just starts bursting into tears and runs
off stage. But then there's another bit where where the
duke is saying because he's talking about being in love
with Cinderella and dukes saying, Prince, you fall in love
every week. I mean last week it was the Duchess
so and so, the Countess so and so, and do

(17:42):
you remember the two sisters from Arundell? And he says,
let it go, Duke, and it's just very meta, you know,
tongue in cheek Disney humor. We also later encountered the
actor who played Franco. He was super nice, very very talented,
performed her great singer, a lot of stage presence. He

(18:03):
really played like he ate up being a villain. It
was fantastic. So he was awesome. And then the last
show they do is called Disney Dreams, which is I
would say an original show, but it's it relies heavily
on established Disney music, and it's about a little girl

(18:27):
who's who's about to go into middle school, so not
that little, and she's, you know, on the verge of
growing up, and Peter Pan visits her in order to
teach her how to continue to dream, essentially to make
believe even as she gets older, because she's worried that

(18:50):
she's going to lose that she's been told by one
of her friends that you know, when you grow up,
you stop doing these silly, childish things. And then he
takes her through a journey that has her meeting all
these different Disney characters which allow for the production of
different songs from different stuff, and in this one that

(19:12):
included the Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Cinderella, a little bit of
Frozen as well, and Becka and I were like frozens
knew what did Frozen replace? And we cannot remember for
the life of us. So I'm going to have to
look it up at some point to figure out what
section did they take out so that they could put

(19:35):
in a Frozen segment. But they actually do have a
beauty in the B section two and they also have
a little bit of Lion King, so yeah, it's weird.
I'll have to look it up. We did figure there
was a previous version where they had both I Just
can't Wait to Be King and Circle of Life. This

(19:56):
one just had Circle of Life, which is one of
their showstopper numbers. Anyway, if you ever go on a
Disney cruise and you're on either the Magic or the Wonder,
Disney Dreams is their signature show that is produced just
on those two ships. The Fantasy and the Dream have
a different one called Believe, which is not as good.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Gotcha, gotcha? Well, that sounds like a lot of fun,
and honestly, spending the week watching some fun Disney and
Marvel stuff sounds delightful.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Not a bad way to spend the week, if I'm
being honest.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, not a bad way at all. I guess at this,
Oh I did mention. Well, no, I'll get to that
later because I think it's in our It's in our
thirty seconds or less, so I'll get to that point later.
Y'all just gonna have to be an expense in suspense expense, suspense,
wake up brain for like another two and a half minutes.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, because we were kind of heading right to that
thirty seconds or less already. I mean, we've we've been
gabbing for twenty minutes without ever really getting it into
anything other than how awesome Disney cruises are.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
We talked about severance for a good while. We did,
you know, and I think conversation. I love running through
trailers because I do have friends who listen to I
have friends who listen to this show. Everybody's my friend
who listens to the show. But I have people who,
like I see on a regular basis, who listen to
the show and they're like, I didn't know about this,
thank you. So I like running through that. But I

(21:27):
also really like discussing stuff because then it opens up
the door for other people to give their opinions on it,
and I enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
So yeah, so let's get to a part of our
show where we don't discuss anything. We just rattle through
a bunch of stories as fast as you can. And
it's called thirty seconds or less, And I think, Ariel,
you are first.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I am in Broadway news a show called Dead Outlaw
is coming this spring. I'm talking about it because my
childhood acting friend, Andrew Durand we used to do community
theater together, is the lead in it. He was also
in Shocked, a lead and Shocked, and he was also
in Head over Heels. But he is playing Elmer mccurnie,

(22:09):
who is an outlaw who then dies and then his
corpse becomes famous and goes on all of these adventures.
So if you ever wanted a wild, wild West version
of Weekend at Bernie's, then this is for you. I've
heard that the music is great. It was off Broadway
last year. I'm just absolutely delighted for Andrew. He's so talented,

(22:29):
and I know any show he's in is he is
at least going to shine. So I'm very very excited
for it.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, and if you want a slightly more recent reference
than Weekend at Bernie's, let's say Swiss Army Man. That's
another fair You know, I still haven't seen that boy.
Daniel Radcliffe puts on a dead amazing performance, all right.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Dark Horse Comics has dropped Neil Gaiman in the wake
of abuse allegations brought against him by eight women. So far,
the comic book publisher has been producing a series of
comic book based off Gayman's Nansi Boys novel, which is
a spin off of American Gods. This comes after news
already broke that Good Omens is not getting a full
third season, but rather a ninety minute film that wraps

(23:11):
up the story without Gaman's involvement, and Disney has paused
production on a film adaptation of the Graveyard book. No
word on what effect, if any, this is going to
have on the other few Gayman productions that are out there.
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, I wrote my next title, Joe Russo declaring soccer
war on Ryan and Rob. How's that for clickbait? So
most people know that Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhoney own
the Wrexham football team. Well, Joe Russo, one of the
Russo brothers from all that amazing Marvel stuff, has decided

(23:50):
to join the board for Sheffield United, so which is
not the same team as Wrexham. So it kind of
feels like he's declaring soccer war, all though I'm sure
they're all friendly. Joe did go to a Wrexham game
with Ryan and Rob, so fun.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
That is fun. Well, back in two thousand and two,
Paul W. S. Anderson directed a film adaptation of Resident Evil.
That's where he met his future wife, Milla Jojoviovic he
then or Mila Jehovivic. He then kept making movies in
the franchise, and she kept starring in them, which is
why I joked that he's her agent in some ways.

(24:26):
But those movies only bear a passing resemblance to the
video game source material. Now there's a reboot series in
the works with the whitest Barbarian. You know, Zach Kregor
at the Helm Studios are currently in a bidding war
over this project, which is said to be more faithful
to the video game source material.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, very interesting. I'm tentatively excited about that. Okay, if
you looked at the list, We're going to go over
Oscar Noms later in the show. But if you looked
at the list and went, man, I haven't seen many
of those movies, well, you're in luck. If you live
in New York, Boston, Los Angeles, or San Francisco and

(25:07):
are near an AMC, you can join a one or
two day marathon of watching nine of the ten films.
That's that's a long long time. There's a one of
them is a twenty four hour marathon, and one is
a two day marathon. And the twenty four hour marathon
starts on March first and wraps up with Wicked at

(25:30):
ten ten the next morning. So that's a long day.
But if you're committed to the Oscar movies, have fun.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I am curious which one was left out?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Oh oh it was Amelia Perez.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
The one that beat Wicked. Okay, all right, Well, Ryan
Gosling isn't just Ken Maybe he's can Nobe, well not Kenobi,
but some sort of Star Wars character. Ryan Gosling is
reportedly and talks to star in a Star Wars film
held by Sean Levy, the guy behind Dead Bull and Wolverine. Also,

(26:02):
he played one of the punk bad guys in a
terrible movie called Zombie Nightmare. You should check that out.
There are a few details available about this Star Wars film,
which Levy first began writing back in twenty twenty two.
We do know it's not going to be connected to
the Skywalker saga, which is kind of a relief really
if you ask me.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, now we have to do a Barbie Star Wars mashup,
you know that, right?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay, next in Star Trek News. Going from Star Wars
to Star Trek Section thirty one, which was supposed to
be a TV show about Michelle Yoh's character in an
alternate universe and then got turned into a movie, is
not getting great reviews at best. I've heard that there
are too many ideas squished into too small of a space.

(26:49):
But it is only ranking thirty one percent on Rotten Tomatoes,
and the only Star Trek property that has ranked less
is Star Trek five, the final front tier. So that's
a little sad.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, O man uh, but yeah, like movies with too
many ideas, and it have been a thing recently. I
feel like Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice had the same issue. Well, back
to Star Wars Now and back to the Skywalkers. George Nolfi,
who has written screenplays for movies in the Bourne franchise
as well as Ocean's Twelve, is the latest in a

(27:25):
long line of writers connected to a Daisy Ridley centric
Star Wars movie called New Jedi Order. Previously, folks like
David Lindeloff, Justin Britt Gibson, and Stephen Knight worked on
versions that then got scrapped. The delays mean that this film,
if it ever does get made, is going to happen
after the mysterious Levy film mentioned earlier, a.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Very interesting uh Aggers Eggers No, if we're about to
talk a lot about him in three seconds or last,
if you didn't watch nast for Rucu not so too.
That's fruit by the foot in the theaters. You can
now watch it at home if you're like me. If

(28:08):
you want your shouldn't be sexy scary film viewing in
the privacy of your own home, you can do that now,
along with Saturday Night and Sonic three.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I already did watch it at home. Ha ha ha.
That's what That's what I get for being part of
the WGA. Well, turning from vampires to wear wolves. Egger's
next project is a quote thirteenth century werewolf thriller end quote.
According to the Hollywood Reporter, it's titled Werewolf. But there's
a U in there, and it's well, it's it's not

(28:43):
where you think, no, it really it totally is where
you think two ys and one in Yeah, you know, Eggers,
the bitch wasn't weird enough spelling, I guess anyway. He
co wrote the screenplay with Sean that's Sjo with the
little both thingy over, and he's an Icelandic writer. He

(29:03):
collaborated with Eggers on The Northman, and that's all we
have to say about Robert Eggers, right areel No.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
So there was rumor that he was going to make
a Labyrinth movie, and those rumors apparently have been substantiated.
He is making a Labyrinth sequel with TriStar, also with
Chris and I think Elaine Columbus who did like Home
Alone and Gremlins and things like that, and also two

(29:31):
of the Henson children. So we don't know if it's
going to be musical. We don't know if any, if
any of the characters will be returning. We know when
the news first came out, Jonathan and I and my
husband Tony, we all in separate conversations but all tied
together debated over who might be the Goblin King. But
now we don't even know if the Goblin King.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Is going to show up. So yeah, but if you
do need an otherworldly human character to serves and antagonists,
I think Tilda Swinton still has my vote. I think
that was that was one of your suggestions, and I
was like, yeah, that's really good. All right. Well, The
Hollywood Reporter projects that Captain America Brave New World is

(30:13):
on track to open it around ninety million dollars over
Valentine's Day weekend. That's against a reported one hundred and
eighty million dollar budget, which is a big chunk of change,
but notably, that is smaller than a lot of other
Marvel films. Now, in some ways, this is the film
that's going to test the near future of Marvel movies
after several previous movies failed to perform well at the

(30:35):
box office, excluding Deadpool and Wolverine of course.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, speaking of things that will surely do well in
the box office, Scary Movie is having a sixth installment
in twenty twenty six. I said that with a tongue
in cheek intenation. If people did not pick up on it, Yeah,
I think it's inspired because we've been getting a whole
bunch of new screen movies, and Scary Movie is a

(31:00):
whole bunch of horror movies, and Scary Movie is just
to spoof on all of those things. So there's a
lot of new content for them to riff on.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if they have
a bunch of AI stuff in it, right, because we
had so many AI horror movies coming out, Like, it
would shock me if that isn't one of the elements
that they lampoon in Scary Movie six, the Scary Movie franchise. Actually,
just the movie movies in general have a really terrible
track record with me. There's like a couple that I

(31:32):
find passively entertaining and then a whole bunch that I
just find miserable, Like it's just not a fun experience.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, I agree, it goes close to like we can
we can we can talk about this a little bit
more because it's the last episode and three seconds or
lest so technically we're done, So technically we don't have
to be beholden to it anymore. Like it falls into
that shark Nato category, like because it is such self
referential humor essentially or referential humor, not self referential, but

(32:10):
it and it knows that it's dumb. It it plucks
a whole lot of low hanging fruit.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, there are movies that can do that that I
find funny, Like Airplane I still think is a very
funny movie, even Airplane two, which is I don't think
is as good as the First Airplane and it does
repeat a lot of the same jokes, but it's still
pretty funny. Or the Naked Gun movies or the Police
Squad series upon which the Naked Gun movies were based,

(32:40):
those all, to me often succeed where the movie movies
frequently fall short, Like a lot of the movie ones.
To your point, they'll make a reference and that's the
extent of the quote unquote joke, Like it's not even
it's not even a joke. It's just here's a thing
that you recognize out of context, and that's it. Hahahah

(33:05):
yeah yeah, And it's so it's such lazy writing. The
first Scary Movie had moments that I thought were pretty funny.
The Second Scary Movie had one moment that actually made
me really laugh. And then I can't remember if. I
think I may have watched the third one, but I
didn't even know that we're a fourth and fifth one
out there. I do know that the other movie films

(33:28):
that I've tried to watch, like I think there was
like Epic Movie and date movie and all that kind
of stuff, they're just terrible. Like I was, I think
I said at one point, this was years ago that
they should just stop naming them and just call it
generic lampoon movie and then put the year at the end.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I mean, maybe they'll listen and they'll get that idea,
and if they do, they owe you royalties. Yeah, I agree.
I don't know if I've ever watched any of the
scary movies all the way through, but I've certainly seen
enough clips. Yeah, every once in a while there's a
really funny joke and then it's just and a whole
bunch of stuff that just doesn't land for me.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
So well, Yeah, and a lot of the humor in
those is incredibly crude, which is it's fine if that's
your thing. Like, I get that they're catering to a
particular demographic, and I don't begrudge that demographic their humor
or whatever. But like I think about Airplane, it did
have some Airplane has some crass jokes in it. Don't

(34:23):
get me wrong. There's some really kind of crude and
crass jokes in that movie. But for the most part,
it's just silly, and that's what appeals to me. Like,
I'm a silly person, so I like silly humor.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
So yeah, there's only one show that leans really heavily
into the crude and crass, far too much for me
that I still enjoy so much that I enjoy rewatching it.
And I feel shame for that because it is so crass,
but the storytelling is really well done, and it's done
in a clever way, often so.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Well. Now you have to tell me what it is.
You can't just I don't want to, but you have to.
You have to.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Okay, it's future man.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I'm not familiar with this one, so you're safe with me.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Okay, it's it's the guy who played Peta in Hunger Games,
Josh Hutchinson, and it's it's a Seth Rogan production. What
tells you about how like crass? And it's really raunchy
and it's really crass. There's a lot of like sex
and potty humor jokes, like a lot, and it's gross.

(35:31):
But then it's also it also deals with a lot
of time travel uh cliches, and it's very funny in
the way that it does it, and the characters have
interesting arcs to them that I enjoy. Like, I enjoyed
the story, I hated all the crassness and the rudeness.
I'm not suggesting this show to anyone. I'm just using

(35:53):
it as a point of like, you can do that
in a way that is still compelling, or you can
do it in a way that is it's you're just
watching that and it's just taking up time.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Right. Yeah, there's nothing, there's nothing of more substance behind
it or of value. And yeah, I feel like again
like a lot of those movie movies fall into that
really lazy writing category. And you know, no shade on
the people who wrote it. I guess other than you know, maybe,

(36:26):
I guess if you don't have to put forth effort
and you can still make money, that's a great job
to get.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
And I can. I am horrible at writing, so I
can't even say that they didn't put forth effort.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's just well, I'm good at writing, and I can
say that.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Okay, well you do that.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Well, well we'll now move. We'll now move from Jonathan
slagging off actual produced Hollywood writers because I am not
one of those, and we'll talk about some trailers and
stuff that we saw. So first up.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Well, first of all, I want to say, most of
these have in parentheses after them, may not fit. Can
cut if you want. I'm surprised he only cut one,
and it wasn't the one I thought.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Well, the one I cut was only because it was
a trailer that's actually been out for several months, because
I almost added it to one of our episodes, like
two weeks ago ago. But it was because it's the
same It was the exact same trailer that's been out
for months. It's just that we didn't notice it, which
is can I get a witness? Which does look like
it's a pretty compelling movie, but at this point, like

(37:30):
that trailer has been out for so long that I mean,
it's possible that people listening to this have not heard
of it. But yeah, it's a kind of a sci
fi like sci fi is like in the background, there's
a sci fi world that this is happening in, but
that's not really what the movie's about.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Kind of also supernatural, fantastical.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Vaguely yeah, and about things like grief. And it's in
a world where people have essentially elected to be euthanized
once they hit the age of fifty, which means this
is this is my last six months right here.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Ariel so glad it's not true.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, it's not true. It's essentially like Logan's run except
that they made the age limit higher. But but yeah,
and again like that's just the backdrop. That's so so
go check out. Can I get a witness? We talked
about it anyway, You can check out that trailer if
you like. But that's technically not in our notes, although

(38:31):
I'm sure Ariel will add it before we get to
the point where.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
She I'll do that. Also, there was a new trailer
for I don't remember it was. It wasn't Utopia, it
was something.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Else, Nutella. It was a trailer for Nutella.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
It's Utopia, it's just spelled differently Newtopia, which was the
zombie girlfriend broke up with her boyfriend but is now
trying to get back to him.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Oh the Yeah, it's like a Korean film or something, right.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah. Yeah, they came out with a new trailer too,
so I'll we didn't put them in our lineup, but
I'll add those two just for anybody who wants to
watch them.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Groovy. Well, the first trailer we actually have in our
lineup is kind of what if John McClain of Diehard
fame was a window cleaner and also a woman when
stuff went down in a high rise building.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah. Yeah, it's called the Cleaner. It stars Daisy Ridley,
which is one of the biggest reasons I put it
in our lineup because you know, it stars a Jedi essentially,
And yeah, it's interesting. She's like an agent, but she's
also she heard cover as a window cleaner.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I don't think it's a cover. I think she works
as a wind I think she works as a window cleaner.
And her connection is that she's former Armed Forces but
for whatever reason, dropped out or left the Armed Forces
and took a job as a window cleaner and happens
to be cleaning the windows of this building when a

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group of baddies end up taking over the top of
the building for some reason.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, you know, it kind of looks like generic action
but with a Jedi and with a die Hard esque feel.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
So yeah, And I'm curious about what the bad guy's
motives are because in the trailer, it seems like what
they're saying is they are targeting rich people and exposing
the crimes these rich people have committed in the pursuit
of their wealth, which makes me wonder, Okay, is that

(40:36):
going to just be the cover they're using a lah
die Hard where Diehard looks like it's going to be
a terrorist thing, but really they're just bank robbers essentially. Yeah,
so I'm guessing it's going to be something similar to that,
because otherwise you're running the risk of the audience being
on the bad guys side.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Well, I mean also figure if they are doing that,
if they're doing this thing that some people might perceive
is not a bad thing in the pursuit of them
also becoming rich.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Like yeah, if, like I said, if their true motives
are uncovered as being you know, selfish, I can understand that.
If that's not what's happening, and like they really are
these anarchists or whatever, I have a feeling that right
now public sentiment might be more on their side. Uh yeah,
it's just an interesting direction to go. So I'm guessing

(41:29):
that it has to be a cover story and that
their actual you know, motivations are more selfish.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
You know. It's an interesting you say, it's an interesting
direction to go. But this was started on a while ago,
So like movies.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
And then we get like this next one opus. It's
making me think of, what's the movie that came out
not that long ago.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
It just started streaming Blink twice?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Is that the one where it's the young women who
go to the Yes. That one also on my list
to watch soon. Yeah. When I saw that it was
on streaming, I'm like, oh, I got to check that
out because I was interested when the trailers hit. I
just never made it to the theater to see it.
Opus looks like it's a slightly more trippy kind of

(42:16):
variation on that, Like what if the Menu and Blink
Twice had a baby and John Malkovich was there and
he was like a cult of personality rock star character.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, Like the official write up is he's a legendary
pop star who mysteriously disappeared thirty years ago, and then
a journalist gets surrounded by his cult of sick offence
on like an island or something.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah. Yeah, So, like it's this story about a incredibly
famous performer who just drops off the map and then
suddenly re emerges and invites a bunch of people to
come see like an exclusive listening a party for a

(43:03):
brand new album, and you know, he hasn't produced anything
for like thirty years, so this is a really big deal.
I'd be like if suddenly well, first of all, it'd
be like if all the Beatles were alive, and secondly
that they got back together and just did an album
and didn't tell anyone until they invited everybody to come
and listen. And but one of the people who for
some reason is invited is this young journalist and she

(43:26):
immediately thinks something hinky is going on, and something hinky
does appear to be going on.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, the journalist is played by. We talked about John
Malkovich being kind of the I guess villain of this movie.
The journalist is played by. I've heard her name pronounced
a couple of different ways, and I meant to look
it up before we started recording, so I apologize if
I've mispronounce it because I didn't look it up. It's
io a debois at a biri. I always thought it

(43:54):
was io a deboiris no at a bierri. That's it.
But any how, she was sid on. She is sid
on the bear, so she'd been doing a lot of
stuff lately. She plays a character named Ariel. That's not
why I put it in the lineup, just putting.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
That out there. Yeah, it's the trailer looks good like,
it looks very creepy. It does look creepy and very trippy.
It makes me want to see this movie. It's like, oh,
this this kind of feels like something that would be
interesting to me. Whereas our next trailer for a movie
called Drop is one where I was like halfway there

(44:35):
but they didn't stick the landing.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
For me, this is one that I thought you might cut.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Well. I kept it because like, there doesn't well one,
it's it's a thriller horror movie and it does involve technology,
so it's one of those things where we're like, well,
there's definitely geeky elements here, but it also I don't
know the premise. It's to me like if the name

(45:04):
m Night Shayamalan had popped up at the end of
this trailer, I would not have been surprised.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah. So the premise is there's this woman who has
a single mom basically, and she gets a date with
someone via basically like a tinder called I think it's
called Drop because you drop your pictures in your files
and things to them and messages. And she goes on
this date and really seems to be hitting it off,

(45:29):
and then a I guess a serial killer.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Breaks into a serial killer slash cyber stalker.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, d breaks into her home. And threatens her child
in the babysitter who is it looks like a very
good friend of hers if she doesn't kill people and
kill the guy that she's on a date with. And
then at some point she's hanging out the window, which
gives another level to the meat to the title drop

(45:58):
because she's in a high rise.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, there's a bit in the trailer where her date
explains that the only way anyone could be dropping like
meme photographs, which is how the at least one of
the people responsible for this are communicating to her, Like,
I get the feeling there's got to be at least
two people, But he says the only way that works

(46:22):
is if they're within a certain radius of the phone,
So they have to be somewhere in the same general
area as the two of them, So they don't quite
narrow that down as far as I can tell. But
because the killer also shows a feed from the camera
system back at the woman's home, that's what makes me

(46:45):
think there's at least two people involved in this, and
the fact that they're targeting her date for some reason,
Like you get the feeling that this ultimately is an
assassination attempt on this dude, and the reason will be
revealed at some point in the movie, and they want
to use her as the assassin by blackmailing her into

(47:06):
doing it.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, you see, I kind of got the impression that
he might be the bad guy, which is probably some
strings that they're trying to pull. They want to make
you suspicious of him and everyone. You said you wouldn't
be surprised if the name m. Knight Shyamalan showed up
on it. I wouldn't have been surprised if there were
like jigsaws behind it because it's a Saw movie, because
that's the kind of like, these people do these horrible things.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
But what lesson is she supposed to be learning like Saw?
At least the argument is that all the people that
Saw is torturing have at some point in their past
made a terrible decision that was harmful to others, and
now they are forced to make some sort of ironic
choice related to that.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
You're right, they don't show that in the trailer, and
I haven't watched many Saw trailers, but I feel like
they probably didn't show that in the first Saw trailer.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Well no, because it's kind of a reveal. But I'm
just trying to imagine what this seemingly nice woman who's
a single mother has done that would merit her being punished, Like, Oh,
it turned out she forced her son to watch Teletubbies.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Maybe her husband is really alive and told her not
to date anybody else after his passing. I'm sure that's
not it. It might even be in the trailer. I'm
gonna be real honest. I didn't rewatch this trailer after
the first time.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
So, yeah, so I watched everything just before we started recording,
because of course, I was gone for the whole week.
I couldn't watch anything that wasn't connected to Disney. They
really indoctrinate you on those boats. But yeah, so I
just watched all this stuff. But yeah, I thought it
was an interesting premise, but I don't know that it's

(48:49):
enough to carry a film, And I'm more than happy
to wait for this to come to streaming and to
hear what other people's opinions are before I decide whether
or not to spend my time watching it.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah. Same, I added a second horror movie for you, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah, you were really really thoughtful. Actually, there's a few
movies on this list that kind of fall into the
horror category or like they're buddying up to horror. But
this one is Hell of a Summer, which is a
finn Wolfhart is behind at least partially behind this.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Right, he's at least one of the characters of it.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I think he's also I think he's actually also one
of the writers for the film.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh, he's a director for it.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, director. So Hell of a Summer. It's a horror,
like a slasher horror slash comedy movie about a summer
camp and a bunch of counselors get there and they
start doing your typical counselor things that are on the

(49:53):
forbidden behaviors list, you know, like smoking, drinking, fooling around,
that kind of stuff, and then a slasher is on
loose and starting to kill people. But there's jokes.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, it's it's it's like if you made wet Hot
American Summer Oh, slasher film.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, No, it's it's kind of like that, And it's
not it's not set in like the eighties or anything
like that. It's it's set in modern times as far
as I can tell. But it's so weird to say
modern times and say it's different from the eighties.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, at the same time, you know what I'll say,
and maybe again, I watched this a few days ago
and you watched it today. There was a little bit
of like sex potty humor in it, but not too much,
not as much as I would have expected from.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Not so much in the trailer, but I'm guessing in
the film there's more. But yeah, it's One of the
characters is a twenty four year old who apparently can't
let go of this camp. He likes to come back
and serve as like headcounts, and I feel.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Like they're making fun of Brennan Lee Mulligan for that one.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Maybe his mother is disappointed in him for holding on
to this camp out for so many years. And at
one point the other kids all say like, he's got
to be the killer. He's fifteen. He's like, I'm twenty four.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
I mean, I think, you know what, I think it's
really great if you went to a summer camp and
it had a good influence on your life to go
back and volunteer when you're an adult personally, But I
can get how kids wouldn't get that.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
You know, Yeah, it looks cute. I would definitely check
this one out. This one is one of those where
I'm like, okay, I would watch this one.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah. It Also it also gave me Stage Fright, which
is another camp slasher film vibes, which you haven't seen yet.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Correct, No, I have not seen Stage Fright.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Okay, yeah, if you have it.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I don't?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Is it any good?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yes? I watched it on a bad movie night, so
it's that kind of good.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Got it? Maybe I'll check that out at some point
next week. Got a trailer for season two of School Spirits.
I have not watched season one of School Spirits, so
I don't know what's happening other than there are ghosts
that are haunting this school and mysteries are happening.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah. I also haven't watched season one, not because I
haven't had interest, but because there's so many things on
my list. This is the one. We talked about it
when season one came out. It stars Peyton List from
Cobra Kai, where she's a girl at a school and
then she dies and realizes that there's a whole bunch
of kids who are kind of like stuck at the

(52:40):
school because that's where they died and they have unfinished business.
But in season two, it looks like she may not
actually be dead. It looks like maybe one of the
ghosts that had been inhabiting the school took over her body,
and so her spirit is displaced, which I think is
a cool concept.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
It is, but it does raise the question of what
has her body been up to ever since, I mean,
she got displaced.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
It looks like they are going to cover that based
on the trailer a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah. Interesting. I don't know that I'm gonna watch it,
but I'm still interested to learn more about it. And
I say that as someone who has still not watched
the first season, nor do I have any idea of
what happened in it.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
So yeah, next we get I guess this is one
of another movie that kind of side buddies up to horror,
which is we got the UK trailer for the movie Elevation.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yes, this is where it says like from the people
who brought you a Quiet Place, and like, well, of
course it is because it's the same story, except instead
of being quiet, you have to be above eight thousand
feet or else the monsters get you.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yeah, and the monsters look the same, look at least
very similar to the Quiet Place monsters. I actually watched
this UK trailer of Elevation on zero point twenty five
speed to try to get a good look at the monster.
So really trippy.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
It's like the opposite of how you usually watch these
horror trailers.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
It was so weird. But yeah, they look it looks
like a fun, scary alien movie. It doesn't look super unique,
you know. It's it's a number of people they get
to talk in this one. It has vague like Last
of Us feeling vibes, but it's got Anthony Mackie.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
And then Marina Bakeran.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, yeah, is it Maria, But it's not Marina Bakeran.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Is it not? I thought it was when I was
watching it, but I'm really bad at recognizing people.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
It might be it might be right, Yeah it is
Marina Bacheran. I get her confused. There's maybe there's an
Italian actress who I get her confused.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Oh you're thinking you're thinking of Oh, I'll get it
in a second. Hang on, it's uh, all right, now,
I got to look it up because but I know
who you mean, because I know you mean Monica Balucci.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, I get her confused with Monica Balucci. Yeah, there's
no reason for it just the mb in their names.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
But well, they're both gorgeous brunettes too.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
They are, and they're both really great actresses. But here's
the thing is, I look at the character and it's
a good design for an alien. It looks kind of
like a dinosaur panther mix with like tentacles.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah. It made me think of a displacer beast in
D and D.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah. But my question is, if they can't stand high
elevations and their take and they're killing out like urban areas,
why why are they on Earth? It feels like our
structure won't fit their needs.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
An excellent question that I would also pose to m
Night Shyamalan in his movie Signs, where his aliens are
allergic to water and our planet is covered by that
by like seventy eight percent of our planet is covered
in the stuff that kills the aliens.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I guess, I guess I have that question about a
lot of aliens because like alien design, we don't have
to go I put maybe a discussion about alien design
in here. But like whenever there's an invasion, it feels
like an invasion movie. It feels weird when it doesn't
feel like this would be a good like it feels
like the aliens should look at our ecosphere and also

(56:32):
our infrastructure and go, m this isn't the place for
us and leave.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah. Yeah, like a lot of the movies where apparently
Earth has been picked to be the source of something,
whether it's energy or food or whatever, and you look
at it, you're like, really, because we've been doing a
great job of messing all that stuff up for the
last several decades, and you might be better off somewhere

(56:58):
else where people haven't done that. I feel like this movie,
like I like the people involved, I like Anthony Mackie,
and I like Marina Brackern. But but like you were saying,
it feels so similar in concept and tone to so
many other movies we got, you know, whether it's what

(57:18):
was it bird Box or A Quiet Place or that
one where you know the people had to tie themselves
to their like go don't let go, like all of
the or the one what was the one with Nicholas
Cage and those two sons, Like there's like all of
these movies that have these similar concepts behind them of
there's this monstrous or or several Arcadian you know, several

(57:45):
monstrous beings that will get you if you don't follow
these rules. And I'm just I feel like they all
are telling the same story.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
So and here's the thing. I liked a quiet place.
You know, there are definitely some big plot and you
can't think about them too hard, but it was a
fun ride. I like a lot of alien movies. But yeah,
it feels like we've been getting a lot lately and
that they're pretty similar and now.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
We're getting so it's like there was that maybe this
is going to be the tail end of that trend
for a while, because I just feel like it's kind
of played out and now right what we're in right
now is the height of the AI as bad guy
like trend. Yeah, and I'm worried that's going to stick
around for a while. But I'm just like, I get it.

(58:30):
I agree AI is potentially very dangerous. None of your
stories are really telling me anything I don't already know,
and they all seem to be the same story. Like
it feels like someone wrote one treatment and like twenty
different writers wrote a screenplay based off that treatment, and
those are the movies we're getting now.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Yeah, Yeah, I almost went into this conversation about the
AI that we had is not really the AI that's
being portrayed, and some people would argue it's not even
really AI. But that's a conversation for a different time
because I haven't done enough research on it.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, I mean well, and yeah, artificial intelligence is complicated.
That's all we really have to say for right now. Well,
let's talk about this trailer that you have included, because
I guess reading is geeky.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
It is. It is if you want some like thematic whiplash.
The next trailer I added, it's a super short one.
It's for like a BBC show movie, TV movie I'm
not sure, called Miss Austin. It follows Jane Austen's lesser
known sister and her burning some of Jane's Austen's like

(59:41):
private letters to keep her life more private, Jane Austen
being the person who wrote like pride and prejudice and
sense and sensibility, which I would wager are geeky.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Yeah. Also, you find out Jane Austen has tentacles, yes,
and she can't go above eight thousand feet.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yes, and she hears you if you whisper. You know,
it's just if you're looking for something delightful and periody,
because I think period pieces very easily fall into the
geeky sphere. Then this might be a fun, happy calm,

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like a cozy thing to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, yeah, I think it certainly deserves a place in
our lineup, because as much as I'm joking about it, like,
if there were a fun series about you know, like C.
S Lewis, or about Lloyd Alexander, you know, anything like that,
I would be interested in seeing those. So yeah, absolutely

(01:00:40):
I think it belongs here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Now, Okay, if there are any TV producers out there,
I would totally watch something on C. S Lewis. I
know that most people know him from like Chronicles of Narnia,
but some of his other stuff is really.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Cool, So yeah, my Chronicles of Narnia is really cool too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, just because it got produced a lot doesn't mean
it's bad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Which I think. Isn't there another one coming? Isn't Greta
Gerwig doing a Narnia series on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
We talked about, Wow, we might have. We might have,
but you know me, my brain is Swiss cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
So if it hasn't been dropped, but I doubt it
would be because.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
It's hard to say, just because like studios have gone
through so much tumultuous change over the last couple of years,
really ever since the pandemic. It's hard to keep track
of which projects are still in production and which ones
were set aside.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
So google ai AI over you So take that into
account with accuracy, because it's not always, says Greta Gerwig
is adapting The Chronicles of Narnia for Netflix, and the
film will be released in theaters on Thanksgiving Day and
then on streaming on Christmas Day. It's untitled of this year,
twenty twenty six, next year. Okay, I'm guessing the production

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of that has got to be extensive.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
To oh sure. That's why I was like surprised. I
was like, oh my gosh, it's been in stealth mode.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
But I have like her take on the Barbie movie
was fantastic, so I'm really looking forward to see what
she does with the story. I think she's a good director.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I hope Ryan Gosling is mister Tumness.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
That would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I'm just tumbness. We also got a new trailer for
Mickey seventeen. This is the send in the Clones movie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Yeah, it has nothing to do with Mickey Mouse no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah, we talked about this once before because we watched
we saw the teaser a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Yeah, so the original teaser didn't give us a whole
lot of the overarching story beyond there's this guy who
signed up to be cloned whenever he dies to do
like grunt work, and then one day he finds another
of his clones. There's only supposed to be one of
them at a time. This second trailer gives us a
little bit more story into like his personal connections with

(01:03:04):
other people and kind of the the trajectory he goes
once he finds out he has another clone in trying
to maybe get out of this crappy life he didn't
fully read into before he signed up for.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah, it really made me wonder why is there a
policy to eradicate all versions of a clone if there
ever are two of them? And what you were just
saying just made me think, Oh, maybe it's so that
you can't have someone be like, oh good, someone else
is here to carry the bag and I can go

(01:03:41):
off and live my life without just being an expendable
body thrown into some deadly situation so that the company
is able to profit from it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Yeah, I have. Christopher Pattinson has done a lot of
stuff and I haven't seen all of it. Christopher not
Christopher Robert Rober Pattinson, Okay, Christopher Robin.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
No, Christopher Robin went to the hundred Acre Wood and
found another Christopher Robin there and they had to fight
to the death. Well, Winnie the Pooh watched.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
It was in a honey jar, a giant honey jar. Yeah. No,
Robert Pattinson, He's done a bunch of stuff. I haven't
watched a lot of it, but of the things I
have watched, I think this might be the most excited
I've been for one of his properties.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
So, yeah, this it's striking me as one of those
kind of quirky science fiction thrillers with like a pretty
big sense of humor behind it too, Like it's I
don't think it's an outright comedy, but I think there's
a lot of humor, almost like satire humor that's feeding

(01:04:51):
into it. So I'm definitely intrigued because if it's handled well,
I think it could be another one of those, you know,
sort of satirical science fiction films that gets a decent
following something like like a I mean not nearly as
violent as RoboCop, but something along those lines.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Yeah, I agree, Okay, more thematic with lash.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Yeah, we go from I didn't have time to reassemble
the trailers to put them in an order that made sense.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Look, I expected to do it, and then I saw
you in here. I'm like, I'm just not going to
mess with the order because you're going through it. So
if you hadn't been in yet, I was going to
re order it, but I didn't get there. The next
is for we got a second trailer for Queen of
the Ring, which is the female wrestler story that we
talked about the other week. Still looks good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Yeah, yeah, it gave us a little bit more of
the story behind it. You also, if you are someone
who follows wrestling at all, will hear a very familiar
name being mentioned in this A certain it's actually the
father of someone who became known as the head hauncho

(01:06:14):
of wrestling in the eighties, nineties, and two thousands. Yeah,
Vince McMahon Senior would be that name. But yeah, you know,
I think there's going to be a little bit of
revisionist history in here, like it's meant to be. Let's
tell the story that was never really told. But I

(01:06:36):
think it's also going to perhaps elevate the impact that
these people had on the business, because if we're being
brutally honest, women in wrestling were pretty much buried for decades,
Like they had a real moment up through the seventies

(01:06:57):
and into the early eighties, and then you know, largely
because of what was then called WWF, they were relegated
to being valets and managers and eye candy for the audience,
like to the point where the role of women in
wrestling for a lot of the late eighties into the

(01:07:18):
two thousands was largely dehumanizing and pretty despicable in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
So while I think that we're getting past that now, me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Too, Oh yeah no, because there now there are pay
per views where women are headlining the pay per view
and putting on just as good, if not better, of
a match than the men are. And they've always been
capable of doing that if they were given the right
amount of time to train and prepare and to work
on their craft. But for a long time that just

(01:07:52):
wasn't the case. Like there were women like lead Up
and Victoria, Trish Stratus and others who kind of change
that game in more recent years. The thing that, like,
I think the story is important. I think it needs
to be told for Queen of the Ring, But I
also would caution people against feeling like, oh, this is

(01:08:14):
what established women their place in professional wrestling, because for
a long time that just wasn't true.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah, you know, I based on a true story. Is
is always based on a true story. But you know,
it does go into her dealing with with trying to
get like rights and on the business end of things,
and you know, even if the outcomes are a little different,

(01:08:41):
I'm sure that struggle was very true and real.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, And I'm sure that like, like,
there's some great points that are made in this trailer
where someone like her son says to her at one point,
your name is the one that shows up on the tickets,
not the promoters. The promoter's name doesn't show up on
the tickets. That's not what selling the tickets. You're selling
the tickets, which is totally true. Like, you know, the

(01:09:05):
wrestlers were the ones that people were coming to see.
They weren't going there because they heard oh so and
so promoter put the show together. No one cared who
the promoters. Were they cared who was showing up to wrestle?

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Yeah, yeah, that is true. I'm still looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yeah, me too, Me too. Like I said, I think
that the story itself is still important and I look
forward to seeing it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
So now we're going to go from a Queen of
the Ring to something called small town Big Story that
when I saw it, I was really surprised. Wasn't a
Simon Pegg property.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
No, it's a Chris o'dowelled property. So he's Ireland's version
of Simon Peg.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Yeah. Yeah. It stars Christina Hendricks, who is from Ireland
but then goes and lives in the US for a
long time and becomes a TV producer and then goes
back to Ireland. Tell me if I'm misremembering this. Goes
back to Ireland and then a bunch of like weird
supernatural stuff starts to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Well, whether it's supernatural or not remains to be seen,
but she does return to Ireland in order to run
a production of something you never In the trailer, you
don't really find out what the production is, but you
know she's also taking opportunities to check in on her ex,

(01:10:29):
who still lives in this small town in Ireland. And meanwhile,
this small town is also a site where weird stuff
is happening, primarily that weird stuff being that birds occasionally
just drop dead out of the sky.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Yeah. The only thing that makes me feel like it's
supernatural is that at one point in the trailer she asks, uh,
shamey shit, I don't remember the other the leading male
if he's going to tell people about their past, and
it shows them young making out in the woods on
a very specific day when like bright light appears out
of the sky, right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
So, like, is it Aliens? Is it? Is it one
of those chapter and one of those Irish helicopters we
hear so much about. Is it leprechauns? We don't know.
But yeah, also that could just be a memory where
like the memory itself has been, you know, changed over time.
We don't know. Like this is a series that is

(01:11:27):
going to be on I think sky in the UK
and in Ireland. I'm not sure where we'll be able
to see it here, but it looks charming. It definitely
is one of those things where it's a small town
filled with quirky individuals kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Yeah, it does say that we're going to be able
to watch it this year in the USA online, but
I don't know where. Maybe Sky can we watch Sky
Atlantic in the USA.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
I don't think so, but I think it would probably
be on some other partnered service like Hulu or Amazon
or something or Netflix, who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
I hope that we get to see it, much like
I hope eventually the Australian Office comes here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Yeah, Okay, Well, I feel like that story's over. Now
we have a movie that doesn't belong in our lineup
at all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Really we can take it out then.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Well, no, we can keep it, like because you said
it's sweet and it's uplifting, and I agree. I just
don't feel it's geeky.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I you know, I think it's I think it's geeky
because it does deal with the impacts of social.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Media well and of estrangement from family. And also, I mean,
it's the kind of movie that I could easily envision
you in, Like if you had told me that you
had auditioned for this twice, I would not be surprised
at all.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
That's very kind of you, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah, I don't know why I said it like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I don't know why you said it like that either, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Also the editor, so I get to decide what stays
in and what goes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
But yeah, this is a story about a woman who
has a bad relationship with her father and they become estranged,
and then she tries to look them up one day
but finds a different Bob Trevino, Bob Travino being the
name of her father, and they end up connecting and
she kind of ends up getting a surrogate family that's

(01:13:33):
really understanding and carrying out of it. John Leguizamo plays
the other Bob Trevino. It it just looks heartwarming, and
I just there's so much horror movie out there that
I wanted to promote a heartwarming movie as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
That I think is totally legit. Like this does look
like a very sweet movie about with familial trauma, finding friendship,
being supportive. Like John Legzamo's character seems like a genuinely
good person who is concerned for the well being of
this person he's never met, and like, you know, I

(01:14:19):
feel like that is the sweet kind of story that
is nice to get, especially in a time where a
lot of people are feeling like untethered and disconnected and
afraid and you know, ends anxious and all of those
negative things like having something where and this is you know,

(01:14:39):
supposedly based off an actual story, like something that actually happened,
although I imagine great liberties were taken in the process.
But like a story about someone reaching out and showing
support to a total stranger because they recognize that need

(01:15:00):
is there, as well as someone who's going through their
own struggles and trying to find a way to reconcile them.
I think that's going to resonate with a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely going to see this one. I'll
probably see it in the I think it's coming out
in theaters and if so, I'm going to see it
there because I want to support more movies like this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
That's totally cool. Our last story is to talk a
bit about the Oscar nominations that came out. Now, obviously
we've already had the Golden Globes, which is from the
Foreign Press Association or actually now I think it might
be called something else because there was that whole like

(01:15:41):
organizational change of Golden Globes. Anyway, the Oscars, obviously, the
Academy is all based off the Academy of emotional pictures.
So we've got the nominees for stuff, and a lot
of geeky properties have some representation in the various categories.
For instance, Best Picture includes The Substance, which is, you know,

(01:16:04):
a horror movie with Demi Moore, Wicked which is a
horror movie with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Rivo, and Dune
Part two which is a horror movie with Florence Pugh
and Timothy show In Zendaya.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's just Best Picture. Nostatu also gets
some nods. Sing Sing which isn't necessarily geeky, but is
kind of because it deals with the impacts of theater
on people's lives, it gets a nod or the actor
from that gets a nod. Yeah, all kinds of stuff.
Gladiator too, which I guess is geeky.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Yeah, I'm guessing that gets like some technical nominations. I
don't expect that design. Yeah, So Cynthia Arrivo got a
nomination for Lead Actress, Ariana Grande got a nomination for
Supporting Actors. Demi Moore got the nomination for Lead Actress.

(01:17:04):
So again, like some more geeky representation there. If you
started going to animated features. You've got Inside Out Too,
which was like the top performing box office film or
one of the top ones for twenty twenty four. I
don't remember if it actually came out as the number
one or not, because Mowana Too did really well too,

(01:17:27):
I can't remember. I remember Disney had like three of
the top four spaces.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
One of those was Wolverine and Deadpool, right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Might have been, but I think it was Deadpool and Wolverine.
Oh that one, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
You know, they're like, that would be that would be
brilliant if they gave us a second one that was
from the other perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Wolverine and Deadpool. Yeah, well, then you would get you
would skip out on all the Deadpool or all the
rather all the Wolverine variants, because you would just be
following the one that eventually pairs up with Deadpool.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
We also got let's see. Other animated films that were
nominated include Wallace and Grammet, Vengeance, Most Foul, as well
as The Wild Robot, So those are up there. Doune
also got a nomination for Achievement in Cinematography. Nosferatu did
as well. You know, costume design, like you said, as

(01:18:23):
Gladiator two which is up against Nosfaratu, which is up
against Wicked. That's a heck of a group right there.
You've also got You've also got a couple other movies
Conklave and a complete unknown in that category. But I
kind of want to see a face off between Gladiator too, Nosferatu,
and Wicked.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Yeah, that would be really cool. Uh it is. It
is the only year that going into Oscar season, I
have seen more movies in the theater nominated than my
friend who holds her Oscar party every year at.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
The get Go. Yeah, her Oscar party. I have never
actually I think maybe I went to one, but yeah,
she's a mutual friend of ours, holds this big Oscar
party and she tries typically to catch every single film
that's been nominated for Best Picture before the Oscars so

(01:19:15):
that she has kind of a working knowledge of them
before the Oscars are announced. And then she even does
like a little thing where everyone writes down their pick
for what's gonna win one award. I always think that's
tricky because I am convinced, and I actually I'm not
just convinced. I know for a fact that members of

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the Academy often will vote on stuff that they either
haven't seen or they haven't seen all of them, so
they only like, I've seen two of these movies. I'm
going to vote for one of the two I saw,
or I'm voting for this one because it sounds like
it would be better.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and she still might see a
bunch of these movies. But usually when they announced the
OSCAR nominated movies, she's like, I've seen this many and
this year I've seen more than her.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
So which ones have you seen?

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
I saw? Wicked?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Wicked? Yeah, Wicked?

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
What's the other one that I saw? I'm scrolling down
now because yes, doune too. Okay, she hadn't seen either
of those.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Wow, so she hasn't seen any.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
She saw one and for which one? But it wasn't
those two.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Yeah, I have not seen any of these at all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
For sure, you saw the Substance.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
It's on my list to watch, but I have not
yet seen it. So yeah, I have not seen any
of the one. But then like I've been pretty you know,
slow on catching movies for the last few years. If
we're being honest, like I've seen a few, I've made

(01:20:54):
the trip out to the theater to see. If you
and I've watched a couple at home, but it's it's uh,
I've really fallen behind, which is great for someone who
hosts a pop culture podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Well, but it's nice because sometimes we talk about things
that fill off of other people's radars too, and so
when we bring it up, it kind of gives it
a little bit of a resurgence.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
And the nice thing is is that in a couple
of weeks, I'm going to have two fourteen hour airplane
rides and I'll be able to watch some stuff and
catch up on things.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
If you watch things that I can also stomach to watch,
let me know, and I'll try to watch them too
so we can have an educated conversation about them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
I'll let you know after I ride the first flight
when I find out what's actually available for me to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Yeah, for sure, for sure, that's it. You know. As always,
we actually had a lot of discussions this time. There
were a lot of things to talk about, but yep,
a lot of a lot of just Gavin as well,
and I like that. So I like talking with you,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Thank you. I have missed doing it. Over this past week.
I had very limited connectivity while I was on the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Yeah, sometimes you need to disconnect. But if people don't
want to disconnect and they want to connect with us,
how do they reach you, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Well, to reach me, you're going to need to take
a little stroll through the woods. And you're just going
to walk through the woods and sort of enjoy the
experience and listen to the sounds of nature, which will
not include the crumpling of paper, but might include you know, burdyes,
singing in the trees and such. And as you walk through,

(01:22:38):
you're going to see like another person kind of up ahead,
sort of somewhat blocked from your view because of the
trees and brush and stuff. So you're going to keep
walking thinking, oh, well, that must be Jonathan. I can
ask him my question, And as you get closer you realize, wait,
that's not Jonathan, that's me. It's another me. And you're

(01:22:59):
going to get right there where suddenly you see the
other you has pulled out a knife. And then you'll
hear here, catch this, and a knife will be coming
flying at you from the woods. But but you know
in a way where you can actually catch the knife.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Not the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Oh i'm stabbed kind of way, and you're gonna pick
up that knife, and then you're gonna see Winnie the
Poohs stroll out of the woods and say it's a
honey pot. And then the two of you, you and
your clone are gonna have to fight it out. Whichever
one of you wins will then have your arm raised
in the air. It may not be you, by the way,
it might be your clone, but don't worry. Your clone's

(01:23:38):
gonna have the same question you did, and you're gonna
look over and see who raised your hand in victory,
and hey, it just happens to be me, so you
can ask me then.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Wow, that was impressive, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
If if you have bad short term memory and you
can't remember all those steps, you can also reach out
to us on social media and if you want to
reach Jonathan, I'll relay your message. Yea, sometimes he does
make an elusive appearance. But you can read us on
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(01:24:35):
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You know if you like to show and tell your
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we appreciate it. And until next time, I'm Aerial stuff

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