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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Largener, Drunk Lighter podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how exciting we are about them.
I'm Ariel cast In. I've got a burp and with
me as always is the gonna cover it.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Jonathan Strickland, you don't know how it feels to be me.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I don't know how it feels to be you, only
only what you've told me.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, we've We were talking before recording about karaoke and
I was joking about singing that particular song, which is
a Tom Petty song. Doesn't matter. We're gonna talk about
geeky things now, and none of them, none of them,
as far as I know, relate to Tom Petty, but
they do relate to us. And that includes stuff what

(00:57):
we have done since the last recording that falls into
geek territory. And Ariel says, here, you watched our sun
get devoured in the sky, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
But only very poorly. I didn't actually have glasses, and
technically the fullness of the eclipse in Atlanta, Georgia hit
at a time when I had already started work. But
I did watch it. That's probably the geekiest thing I
watched all week.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, I went outside at around two forty to forty five,
which was about fifteen minutes before we got to a
little bit more than fifteen minutes before we got to
the fullness that we would get, which was around eighty percent,
so we kind of got like crescent moon kind of
status with the sun and sat outside on a little

(01:51):
lawn chair and watched it. I did have some eclipse glasses,
so I was able to watch the whole thing. Liked it.
It was great. It was obviously not nearly as impressive
as the totality we got in twenty seventeen, but it
was still cool to watch. And my partner was up
in Erie, Pennsylvania seeing it. In totality, that was pretty

(02:14):
much the only geeky thing you watched was the eclipse.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
We're doing, so I've talked about my friend's watch party
that we do. We've been doing weekly since the pandemic,
and it looks like it might be coming to an
end because I don't know if I talked about this
last week, stop me. If I did. Amazon at first
rolled out there. You have to pay a little bit
more if you don't want ads in our streaming service,

(02:41):
which yeah, whatever, I mean, wasn't super happy about it,
but I also am like, I'll just deal with the ads.
And then they made it so that you could only
start our host to watch Party if you bought the
without Ads service. Now it's not very expensive to upgrade,
so we had a couple of friends who did. Now
neither of those friends can start watch Party. It looks
like without this has kind of been in the news,

(03:03):
so you probably already know about it. Without really any warning,
they've gotten rid of that capability. We knew they were
getting rid of it on Twitch, but they haven't really
been like, oh, we're getting rid of watch Party altogether.
And so my friends who bought the no ad service
to help us watch the watch Party are a little frustrated,
and we tried to go to teleparty, but teleparty is
not suited to deal with everybody getting ads at different

(03:25):
times and some people not having ads, and everybody's trying
to figure out what's wrong, when really it's just paused
because one person's watching an AD, and then everybody else
is trying to start it again, and it just gets
very frustrating.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
So got it.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
We're finishing up boxmak Kinna. We'll probably tomorrow do something
where we all put it on Amazon and on Discord
go three two one, start and then just talk about
it at the end.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's like watching tracks, yeah, yeah, the old Riff tracks
where you would just get the audio file and it
would q you when to start the movie with audio
file and.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. But I don't know if we're
going to continue trying to do that afterwards. I'm fine
with it. At least one of my very good friends
who attends it does that on the regular because teleparty
doesn't work for them. But we will see, and I guess.
During lunch today, I was watching the latest episode of
Fantasy High junior year for me.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I watched all of Fallout last night, all approximately, well,
it's definitely more than seven hours. I don't know if
it's all the way up to eight, but I watched
the whole thing, yeah, eight episodes. Some of the episodes
are not an hour long, some of them are closer
to like thirty five to forty minutes, but most of

(04:43):
them are right around an hour or so. And I
watched the whole thing start to finish, and I have
lots of thoughts on it mostly positive. I liked the show.
I thought the set design and the costume design was

(05:04):
out of this world. I thought those designs were phenomenal.
I was surprised at the amount of gore, although I
shouldn't have been, considering that Fallout even has a perk
you can get that makes everything gorrier, like people explode
when you shoot them and stuff. But there was quite

(05:24):
a bit of gore that I was kind of surprised by.
And while there was humor, I didn't feel like there
was as much humor in the series as there happens
to be in the games, and that it takes a
while for the humor to really start coming through, Like
there's some very dry humor in the first two episodes,

(05:45):
but the weird stuff doesn't start coming in until later.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's unfortunate because the trailer sure made it look like
it was going to be I mean, dark but also
a comedy kind of.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
To me, yeah, I mean it was. It was entertaining.
They did use a lot of the music from the games,
so a lot of the songs like that you would
hear on the radio station in the games, A lot
of those were songs that were used. They used most
of those up by the first like five episodes, though,

(06:19):
so by the last three episodes, I'm like, oh, well,
this is a song that's from that era and it's
in that kind of style, but it's not one that
I recognized from one of the games, but they use
like the By that time, around the episode five or six,
I started noticing the actual score from the game making

(06:40):
its way into the show, and I didn't notice it
in the early episodes, So that was interesting. And the
only thing that I'm not going to give any spoilers
I think I can't even really talk about the plot
because the plot, like early on, there's a spoiler that
is kind of the important element for the whole plot,
so I'm not going to talk about that. I'll say

(07:01):
that it was very Fallout ish. There were a couple
of specific references to things that have appeared in Fallout games,
beyond like general ideas, right like beyond certain factions or
certain kinds of monsters, whatever. One character from an actual

(07:21):
Fallout game has a cameo in the series, which I
thought was cool. And then a really important location in
one of the Fallout games is hinted at at the
very end of the final episode, and that was cool.
So I really liked the fact that it was a
show that catered to fans of the series. Like, if

(07:45):
you were a fan of the series, you're like, oh, well,
this isn't retelling one of the games. It's a new story,
but it very much feels like it's set in that world.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Do you need to be familiar with those references to
enjoy the show? Because as I have said before, i've
played Fallout. I spent hours making my character and then
could not get out of the bunker because cockroaches kept
killing me. That's comedy, you guys, But that's the amount
of Fallout references that I understand.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Clearly, you need to work on your VATS training because
VATS will get you out of pretty much any fight
because you don't have to do it manually. If you
use VATS, it's way easier.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
But remember what VATS is.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's it's kind of like bullet time in a way.
It lets you, it lets you specifically target a monster
in particular parts, and it freezes everything. It pauses everything,
so you're not you're not shooting in real time.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I tried to do that. I tried to do that.
If I recall correctly, I use that, and that's how
I get through all of the Mass Effect games that
allow me to do it. I don't remember if all
of them allowed me to do it, but I played
all the Mass Effect games, and it's largely by freezing, aiming,
and going, and sometimes it's by like pausing the game
because I can't freeze it, just to see where it is,
and then unpausing and aiming and then pausing again making

(09:09):
sure it's right, unpausing shooting because I'm really bad at that.
I've gotten better, I'm still not great at it. But
the thing is, the conquages were so fast and I
couldn't find my way out, and they kept responding, and
like I'd shoot one in fat time, the other one
will just s gray up and kill me. I hated it.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry you had such a frustrating experience.
But No, to answer your original question, you do not
have to have played the games to really understand, because
they introduce tons of concepts and character not characters, but
like organizations and stuff that are intrinsic to the games,

(09:47):
But they do so in a way where you understand
what they are just in the series. You don't need
to have played the games, so like Vault Tech is
a great example. Vault Tech is the company that made
the Vaults. Obviously that company plays a huge part in
the story of this series, but they do a really
good job of introducing what Voltech is, in fact, more

(10:10):
so than I would argue some of the games due
so they also answer some really big questions that have
been open questions in the Fallout game community. So if
you take the series as cannon, they actually solve one
of the longest standing mysteries of the Fallout universe. Again,
no spoilers, I don't want to spoil anything for anyone,

(10:33):
but I really appreciated that. So while I had some
issues with the tone and I had some issues with
the appearance of and nature of humor, sometimes it felt
like it just really was out of place, but then
that can happen in the games too, overall, I thought
the series was an incredible achievement. Nice.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Nice, Oh I did forget one geeky thing I did.
I've been playing beats. I don't know if I was
doing that last week.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
You were, Yeah, you had started playing it last week,
I remember, So are you enjoying Beatsaber.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I am. I've kind of gotten off of the campaign
mode and I'm just playing solo play now, and I
like some of the songs. There's a Lindsay Sterling song
that's just really a lot of fun to play, and
it's very zenny. And if you put the Dragon Force
song on like normal, it's and then you also put

(11:29):
yourself on no fail mode it's pretty good, which is
actually what one of like the commentators on how to
play Beat Saber better said was like, put a song
on a difficulty, put it on no fail, and go
through it because you won't. That way, you'll learn the
song and you'll get better at it. If you don't
get through the song the first time, you're not going
to know what's happening. Right, So I don't know. I'm

(11:49):
enjoying it. Yeah, I need to buy. We got it
on Steam specifically so we could get some like fan
made songs like ductails and stuff. So we gotta set up.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But right, yeah, I've seen I've seen videos on YouTube
of people playing Beat Saber and they're playing songs where
I'm like, oh wow, did they license that song? That's incredible?
And then I looked into like, oh no, that was
a mod that they did where they were able to
take other songs and then create beat Saber like like

(12:20):
the Courses or whatever with that music. Oh that's really cool.
I realized that that the mod the motters are walking
a fine line, because that's a licensing nightmare if you're
the company behind Beatsaber.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
But yeah, I also plan on buying. They do have
a lot of fun songs impacts that you can buy
through Beatsaber, just like with Guitar Hero Rock Band or whatnot.
So I do plan on getting those as well. But
there's just like one or two songs. I was like,
if if beat Saber had this song, I would buy
it from beat Saber.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Totally, totally no I And there's no judgment here because
goodness knows, like I've had so many where there's some
form of media that I would love to have access
to but there was like no legal way to do
it in the United States, and I would sit there
and say, do I do an ill illegal access and

(13:16):
then just get My goal is to pay for it
as soon as it's legally available, or do I just
go without? And I'm not ashamed to say that occasionally
I've engaged in a little shady skull duggery in order
to watch or access something that I really wanted.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I generally, you know we've talked about I generally say
pay for your media, right but if it's something that
you need to pay for obviously, like you're listening to us,
and you can just do that because out of the
goodness of our hearts right now, but not the goodness
our hearts always. But you know, I have like when
I was paying for BBC specifically as a channel, I'd

(13:55):
watch Doctor Who, and then my friend had like the
extended version that you could get in the UK but
not here, so occasionally I would watch that. I think
that's not as much of a thing anymore now.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
For me, it was things like so the thing that
I always think about, Well, there's two Battle Royale, which was,
you know, a Japanese thriller kind of horror movie about
a bunch of kids forced to fight each other to
the death. It's really grim. For a long time, was
not available in the United States at all, Like it
was just you couldn't get it, And so I got

(14:30):
a bootleg copy of that so I could watch it,
and then as soon as it became available in the
United States, I went ahead and bought the DVD. And
another example is the Mitchell and weblook because it was
available on Netflix for a while, but then the licensing
expired and it went away and I could not get

(14:51):
an American version of it, like it just didn't exist,
and so I ended up watching episodes on YouTube for
a while until I was finally able to buy British
versions of the DVD, and then I bought a region
free DVD player so that I could, because otherwise, you know,
it wouldn't work because the regions are different. So, like,

(15:14):
I get really frustrated when media companies don't make it
easy to access stuff legally, because that's what really encourages piracy.
I'm not saying piracy is right. I'm saying that it's
totally understandable if you really want access to something and companies,
for whatever reason just do not make it available, and

(15:35):
if you're willing to pay for it and you still can't,
then a lot of people will take that extra step
to pirate it. And while it's not right, I do
understand it.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah. Yeah, speaking of monopolies, let's get to our thirty
seconds and less.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, because we got a whole bunch of them, and
we've got some news stories to go through, and then
it is the return of a long lost friend to
the show. That being mash ups. Yes, folks, we will
have mash ups at the end of this episode. So
that's something for you to either look forward to our dread.
But in order to get there, we got to do

(16:11):
some thirty seconds or less. And I think Ariel Europe first.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yes, yes, And I kind of alluded to what I
was going to talk about. Margot Robbie, with her company
Lucky chap is producing Monopoly, the board game.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
The movie.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
She's working with Hasbro to do it. You know, we've
had a will they won't they relationship with a Monopoly
movie in a big while I personally don't think that
she can beat the last Monopoly movie. I watched the
Big Short, but if it's as good as Barbie, I
will give it a watch.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, she was in the Big Short, so you know,
maybe she'll bring some of that energy over. Although if
she spends the entire film of Monopoly in a bubble
bath with Champagne, they're gonna sell a billion tickets. So
all right, for those of y'all out there, itchin for
a John Snow spin off a game of Thrones. I've
got some bad news. Kit Harrington and played Snow and

(17:11):
the TV series says the project is now quote off
the table, end quote and essentially dead in the water.
As for the reason, Harryton says that the development team
could never find the right story to tell, which is
weird because I thought it was obvious. I mean, Snow
goes to kindergarten, so he can finally know something.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
That's funny. He is in Henry the Fifth for with
National Theater. If you've got that subscription and you want
to watch him know something. This one is really short.
I'm not really gonna say a lot on it. Jonathan
Major's did finally get sentenced for the accusations of domestic
abuse that had been filed against him. He doesn't have

(17:54):
jail time, but he does have a year long in
person domestic violence counseling program that he needs to complete.
And then Grace Schabari, his ex girlfriend, does have a
protection order sanity. So it looks like this chapter of
everything is coming to a close.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yep. Then it'll truly come to a close when we
find out whatever the heck Marvel is doing in the
wake of all that. Okay, many years ago, Arnold Schwarzenegger
starred in a very very loose adaptation of Stephen King's
The Running Man, and it barely resembled the source material.
And currently, Edgar Wright, the genius find films like Sean

(18:33):
of the Dead and Baby Driver, is going to direct
a new adaptation, and Glenn Powell, whom I know as
Trader Number one in the Dark Knight Rises, is starring
in it. Right co wrote the script. So I'm hoping
that there's going to be a cornetto cameo in the
new film.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Interesting, I do like Edgar Wright. Okay, Prince of Persia
is getting a new game. This time it's being developed
by the Dead Stells studio Evil Empire. I said that
Poorley Dead Cells if you couldn't understand me the first time.
It's got a really cool kind of not quite but
almost Samurai Jack feel to it. It's two The trailer

(19:14):
at least makes it look like a true two D platformer.
It looks pretty cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I love that series and I love every different iteration
they've done, So that's cool. All right. Well, I remember
watching the Blair Witch Project back in nineteen ninety nine
and being thoroughly creeped out. Not from the movie, but
there was this guy sitting two seats down for me
who took his shoes off at the movie theater. Anyway,
there have been a few attempts to turn the film
into a franchise or to reboot the whole thing, and

(19:43):
now we're doing it again. Lionsgate and Blumhouse will produce
the film. No word yet if it will be a
found footage film or a more standard movie. I'm so scared.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I never watched that. And also, I did not take
my shoes off near you. I wouldn't do that to
poor people in a theater. Fumi games unfailed their trailer
for their game Mouse, which features a steamboat willis kiro.
It feels very cuphead. It's a first person shooter. The

(20:18):
weirdest thing to me is that while the character has
many mouse powers, it also has a pop eye power
in that it can eat, power up, spinach, and get stronger.
So it's an interesting mix of old ip.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, why worry about logic when you don't have
to pay for anything? So if you missed seeing Dune
Doom Akaa Dune Part two in the theaters, don't worry.
We now know when it's coming to your home if
you want it to. Starting April sixteenth, the day after
your taxes are due here in the United States, you

(20:53):
can rent or purchase the film digitally. If you prefer
physical media, then you just have to wait until May
fourteenth to get it on Blu ray or DVD. There
will be lots of special material for those formats of league,
tons of behind the scenes footage and who knows, maybe
some sand.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I like sand.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
You know, it makes you different from Anakin Skywalker.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, yeah, hopefully it will keep me from getting burned
in lava. So David Lynch, you know, wants to make
a children's cartoon called The Snoots Snoop World. It's called
Snoop World, and Netflix said, no, we don't want it.

(21:40):
Lynch thinks it's because the story is kind of more
old fashioned fairy tale esque where the jokes aren't right
at the top of it, which who knows what that means.
You could interpret that a thousand different ways, but I
will just read the plot of the film as Lynch
describes it. According to Collider dot com, it takes my
breath away, HOWACKI it is. The Snoots are these tiny

(22:01):
creatures who have a ritual transition at age eight, at
which time they get tinier and they are sent away
for a year so they are protected. The world goes
into chaos when the snoot hero of the story disappears
into the carpet and his family can't find him, and
he enters a crazy, magnificent world feels vaguely Doctor Susian.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, and I the I re arranged their thirty seconds
or less so that Ariel would have to talk about
David lynch animated film after Dune, because you know, Lynch
once directed a version of Doune.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I liked that.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
You like that version? Oh, some people really do, and
there's nothing wrong with that is very weird statements in.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
It, maybe not in its entirety, but I liked it.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
So yeah, all right. Well, once upon a time there
was a Nintendo switch emulator called Yuzu, and u Zu
would let you play switch games without a switch, among
other things. But Nintendo sued Uzo off the face of
the Earth, and two other emulators called sue U and
Sudaci have been exiled from Discord and their lead developers

(23:06):
have had their Discord accounts disabled. One does not threaten
the IP dominance of Nintendo, it would seem wow.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
And lastly, as I said, I'm watching Legend of Vox Macina.
We are currently in season two or two episode episodes
away from the end of season two. I've seen it before,
but we'll watching again. We have no actual word when
season three is going to come out, just that it's
really really good according to Liam O'Brien. However, if you

(23:37):
are Jones and for your Voxmachina fix. In the meantime,
they have come out with a vinyl of the soundtrack
from season two. The discs are really pretty their gold
with some purple in there, and they have some cool
artwork in the bifold trifle whatever it is, the thingy
that holds the vinyl disc. So if you got a

(23:57):
record player and you like Vox Macina and that venn
diagram of geek, enjoy.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
All right, and that's our thirty seconds or less. Now
we can talk about trailer.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, yeah, most of which are not really for me,
and a couple of them might be on the verge
of not kid friendly, just as a fore warning.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean, we do, we do horror movie trailers all
the time, but this time. Yeah, there's there's one in particular,
that's about an industry that is definitely not kid friendly.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
But maybe I shouldn't give that warning. Just sometimes it's
less that I never It's not that I don't always
think we need it. It's just sometimes I forget.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
But we'll start with one that is less salacious, and
that is Fly Me to the Moon, which is an
upcoming comedy film about NASA and the Space race and
the Moon landing, and it follows a PR expert who's

(24:59):
brought and to kind of hush up NASA's public image
in order to get the American public to really buy
into the moon landing. And it stars Scarjoe and.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Also Tating Channing Tatum I think is correct. I actually
really like him. I think he's a he's got amazing
comedic timing, and he's also a very sincere actor. So
I just there was a spoof on his name once
in a bit on a late night TV show, and
now my brain always second guesses it when I say it.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's kind of like Benedict Benedict cumber Batch, Like for
the longest time, no one would say his name correctly,
and until it got to a point where that joke
was so overused that only old people like me still
do it.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah. Yeah, I think the trailer for fly Me Through
the Moon looks delightful. I liked Hidden Figures, which is
certainly a much more poignant story. Yes, then, I mean
to the Moon is where the problem is. Hey, the
people who are working on the moon landing are not charismatic,
and we need to hire pretend people to be them.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, and then even fake the moon landing itself like
that as a backup in case the actual moon landing
doesn't happen or doesn't go well. They've got the studio
made version of the moon landing, which obviously that's been
like a conspiracy forever, and they even make a Stanley
Kubrick joke about it, because Kubrick at one point was

(26:30):
rumored to have actually overseen the filming of a fake
moon landing. This case, we don't get Stanley Kubrick. We
get Jim Rash, which I'm all for because I was.
I loved him on Community, so.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, he's super funny. This looks cute. It looks like
it would be just a fun, easy way to spend
an afternoon.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah. Yeah, this doesn't look like it's a real thinker,
but it might be entertaining and diverting, they might say,
Whereas our next trailer, which is for a film called
Crazy House, feels like it doesn't quite know what the
film is. This is a movie starring Nick Frost, and

(27:18):
the way it starts off is it starts off like
it's a sitcom. It maybe think of too many cooks, honestly,
if I'm gonna compare it to anything, but it looks
like a sitcom. And then it unfolds that the sitcom
is not what is actual reality, I guess, and instead
it's like some sort of home invasion thing and things

(27:41):
escalate from there, and I don't really know what to
think of it.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, I like Nick Frost, and I like the idea
of I mean, it's not completely undone, it's been done
well and poorly, the idea of being in a pretend
world to escape from the reality happening. The worst example
I've seen of that is Sucker Punch, but no offense.

(28:06):
If you like sucker Punch out there and you're listening,
I'm glad for you.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
It was not for me.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I don't know it just it didn't grab me. I'm
touchy on religious humor in general, and it just didn't
feel very clever to me. I did like a joke
where Nick Frost mentioned Santa Claus because he has played
Santa Claus and Doctor Who. So that was the highlight
of the trailer for me.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
It made me think of a series. I don't know
how many people actually watched this, and I'm gonna have
to censor myself because the title of the series has
an explotive, but Kevin can bleep himself. And in that series,
it was a really weird decision. They made cool like

(28:53):
it they'd made it on purpose, but it was a
weird decision where from one character's perspective, the show is
presented like a multi camera sitcom, and from a different
characters perspective, it's presented as a single camera drama, and
so it shifts back and forth between these two different

(29:13):
totally different perspectives and tones and styles to tell these
different stories. And that's kind of what the beginning of
Crazy House made me think, because it looked like it
was playing with that perception deal. But I don't actually
know what's going on, Like I don't know if in
the context of the film itself, it's supposed to be

(29:34):
a show, or if like a character just imagines their
life like a show. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, yeah, I do feel like we won't do it.
But I feel like in talking about not knowing what's
real and what's not, we should be talking about joker
Folia dude. Next, but well that's three away.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
We will get there. Yeah, Instead next, what we're going
to talk about, So, Ty West is a filmmaker who
is from Atlanta. In fact, a lot of the people, yeah,
a lot of people I know have worked with Ty
West on various projects. But Ty West has a trilogy
of films that started with a movie called X and

(30:16):
then the second film was a film called Pearl, And
now we're getting the third of those films called Maxine
and it's max scene with three x's, which should be
the indication that this is the very much not kid
friendly portion of the discussion we're having. But she a
it's a character who has wanted to be a star,

(30:36):
wanted to be famous, and she does through the venue
of adult entertainment and looks like there's like a stalker
element to it. So this looks like a like a
slasher slash stalker kind of horror thriller film, and it
looks extremely atmospheric, which ty West is known for. Ty

(30:58):
West is like, if there there's one thing I can
say about his films that is consistently impressive, it's that
he's very good at creating a specific feel for each
of his movies.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I don't think I've seen a Tye West movie before. Honestly,
I was confusing X with Triple X, and I didn't
know Pearl was related at all. And I kind of
thought that Maxine was the female reboot of Triple X.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
No, none of those.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Until I watched the trailer.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Vin Diesel does not show up in any of these movies.
He does not play some sort of crazy James Bond
esque spy in any of these films. For people who
want to check out Tye West movies and you want
to know a good place to start, I would say,
I mean, it depends on how patient you are, because

(31:55):
you need to like movies that have very slow pacing,
which I do like. I like movies that are very
deliberately paced, not slow, but they're deliberate. And House of
the Devil and The Innkeepers are both very good, but
they're all They're both also very deliberate and slow paced,
and so like I could see like modern hot horror

(32:17):
audiences who are more used to things like jump scares
and stuff not being entertained by these movies because that's
not the kind of films they are. But if you
like really atmospheric stories that slowly crank up tension, I
think those are great films to start with. The X
and Pearl and Maxine films. At least X and Pearl,

(32:39):
I can tell you that ratchets things up significantly, So
maybe start with Innkeepers or House of the Devil.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Gotcha? Is Maxine supposed to be a horror It kind
of looked like true detective met pulp fiction to me.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I honestly, I don't know. It could be that they
make it more of a thriller than a horror city
or something, because like, but I can tell you this,
X and Pearl both well. X certainly is a horror
movie that's done in the slasher style, but there's a
twist to it. Pearl is kind of a film about psychosis.

(33:15):
I would argue Pearl focuses on a character who was
in X, but it's it's a it's essentially a prequel.
It happens like fifty years before X does, and uh,
they're brilliant movies in their own way. But yeah, it's uh,
it's definitely for people who are big into horror and

(33:39):
they're they're big into storytelling in horror, not like the
jump scare style horror. And I'm not saying there's anything
wrong with jump scare horror, by the way, there's some
I love some of those movies, but that's not what
these are.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
My favorite kind of horror. I guess it's not even horror.
It's more like psychological thriller or suspense.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Well, you also like monster movies.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I do, but I don't. I wouldn't consider and maybe
I'm just misremembering, but like Bram Stoker's Dracula was neither
jump scares nor to gory for me, Frankenstein was not
like the really old like creature from the Black Lagoon.
Maybe had a couple jump scares, but again they weren't

(34:21):
super gory, they weren't super jump scary.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, I just think of them. I just think of
those as sort of a subgenre under Like, I think
horror is a pretty big genre and there's lots of
little subgenres around under it, and some of them were
things like supernatural horror, or you know, you got your
slasher horror, you got your thriller type horror films. Thriller
can also fall under drama or action. But yeah, I mean,

(34:47):
it just kind of it's all how you categorize and
organize stuff, and I think it kind of comes down
to personal preference. I generally do it the way old
school video rental services do it right, like you would
go in like, oh, I found Little Shop of Horrors
and it was in the horror section when really it
should be in comedy. But okay, yeah, yeah, or musicals.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Comedy and musical don't always go together.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
True, in fact, they often do not.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
So what would you what kind of horror would you
categorize our next trailer under? In fact, the trailer is
called Under Paris.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I'd put it under Monster Movies. I said that Under
Paris is essentially Jaws goes to France, which is pretty accurate.
Like the story is that some giant shark has been
swimming up the Sand River and it's now essentially in France.

(35:48):
And of course this is just when there's going to
be this big swimming event along the Sand River. And
so it really yelled out Jaws to me because Obviously,
one of the big plot points and Jaws is the
mayor of Amity refuses to shut down the beaches because
it's their big summer and they don't want to lose

(36:08):
tourist money. I feel like there's almost an identical example
here where you've got this big sporting event and even
though the people in charge know that there's a predator
in the water, they're like their hubris tells them they'll
be fine and that they can't afford to cancel this event.
I'm feeling like that's part of this story. But yeah,

(36:30):
there's a The trailer is okay, Like, you know, it
doesn't have the janky charm of Jaws, which I honestly
worked in that film's favor. These a lot of cgi sharks,
But you know, it was one of those things where
I was like, I can dig that they are clearly

(36:53):
inspired by Jaws. Whether or not anyone ever like admits that,
I don't know, but it's obvious to me.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I feel like the biggest inspiration from Jaws is they
show a woman screaming and bleeding in the water, which
was the very most frightening part of the original Jaws
to me and therefore told me that I probably should
not watch under Paris. I watched some scary shark movies,
but I like swimming in the ocean too much.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Also, it's all in French, so either understand French or
there are subtitles in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, go understand French, you plead I uh uh, jubilarismos,
it's not for me. I Jaws is my favorite film
of all time. It's my top film. If you it's
my number one, I think it's I think it's almost

(37:49):
a perfect movie. And the only reason it's almost perfect
is because the shark gimmick did not work most days
when they were shooting, and it forced them to be
very creative with the way that they presented the horror.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
I love this story of Jaws, and I love Jaws
in concept, but I do not enjoy watching it. I
watched it as an adult in the movie theater on
one of those retro nights, and it's still scared the
Jesus out of me.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
So I went to Florida and was staying at a
hotel on the beach and they showed it on a
floating screen over the ocean.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's mean, that's mean, that's uh. Nope, Nope, I would nope,
pride out of there. I'd be like, I'm never leaving
my hotel room again.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Well, next up, Finally, after so much teasing, we've been
teasing this teaser for the entire episode, Ready to talk
about Joker fully? Adieu.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I thought you said French wasn't for you.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
It's not. I did a terrible job saying that. So.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, So I watched this trailer with my husband when
it came to Night Amount, and we had very different
opinions on it. To me, it kind of almost felt
more like a Batman Joker DC movie than the previous
one ever seemed to be to me, hmm interesting, which

(39:15):
is not very helpful for anybody who hasn't watched the trailer.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's yeah, I mean it's it's a teaser, it's not
a full trailer. Uh, but you get you get the
character who is the Joker in this version, talking about
finding someone so he's no longer alone, and of course
he's alluding to Harley Quinn. We get a bit of

(39:39):
Lady God God's Harley Quinn. I think her aesthetic works
in terms of this version of the Joker. I don't,
I don't really I mean it's very different from the
Harley quinns we've seen before, but that's not necessarily a
bad thing. It's just different.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
And uh yeah, yeah, I mean there is a there
is one point where she has a closer to traditional
Harley Quinn aesthetic.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, for the most part, she looks quite different. But again,
so does Joker, so it's not I just think of
them as interpretations on the character. You don't really get
that big of an indication about it being a musical.

(40:25):
I mean, there are little indications, they're little hints and stuff,
but it doesn't it doesn't fly out at you. It's
kind of like in the more recent trend of musicals
downplaying the fact that they're musicals.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah. Yeah, there's a moment where Lady Gaga is singing
in a choir with other people I guess at Arkham Asylum.
And then there's a moment where Joker and Harley are
dancing on stage. Much like in the first Joker movie,
where you spend much of the movie going in and

(41:00):
out of reality between what Joker is making up in
his head and what is actually happening. It looks like
this movie also plays a lot on what is real
versus what is imagined.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, yeah, and again you know that's understandable. It's a
way to try and convey the madness of the Joker
as we still are in this era of playing up
bad guys whose villainous trait is that they are mentally unwell,
like that was a big part of the first Joker film.

(41:33):
But it does it does create issues, like with the
stigma around mental health. So that's but that's a conversation
for another time, I guess.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I mean, but it is interesting because like again, when
my husband watched The Joker, he didn't ever view Joaquin
Phoenix's character until the very end as a villain. He
was the victim, right, and it was the victimization that
drove him to be a villain. So it is, but
it also it also plays on some real sketch area

(42:04):
of making of I can't think of the word all
of a sudden, but basically giving excuses to make something okay,
I do think that writing villains as insane as lazy.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yes, agreed, And it's also obviously dangerous, right like if
you if you write villains that way, then again you
can you can continue to push a stereotype or a
trope that doesn't actually reflect reality and yet still can
shape people's opinions about folks who do have struggles with
mental health. So yeah, there's there's that too. I mean,

(42:40):
that's been an issue with like villains for a really
long time. I mean, it's a very kind of shortcut
way to describe a villain. Plus, you don't ever have
to describe a villain's motivations that way, right, You never
have to give any real good motivation because they're just
quote unquote crazy. But that's kind of the whole point of.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, you can also but you can also have mental
illness or struggles or whatnot or diagnoses and not be
bad because of that, but be pushed to a breaking
point because of the way treat people treat you because
of that. So again, this could be a whole conversation.

(43:22):
But I do have a theory about this movie, which
is that all of the stuff, all of the relationship
between Joker and Harley Quinn is made up in his
mind because he saw her once.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, I mean it would follow spoilers, It would follow
in the footsteps of the first film in that case.
But yeah, we'll have to obviously, with just a teaser
we're gonna have to wait a while longer to get
more material. I think most folks, if they've seen the
first film, they already know whether or not they're going
to see this one. Like, to me, this is one
of those movies where you don't even really need to

(43:57):
market it apart from telling people when it's out.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah, I agree for me, I much prefer the joker
that his villainousness comes from toxic chemicals.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
So well, I mean, there's a there's the great Allan
Moore version where he was a failed comedian who is
then pressured into entering into a life of crime as
the Red Hood and then is pushed into the vat
of chemicals and that so it ends up being the combination, right,
because he's failed comedian who gets pulled into crime through

(44:31):
no choice of his own. It's not like he chose crime,
it's that he had to do it. And then on
top of that, he ends up having this terrible mutilation.
So then you get the best of both worlds. So
it's so good.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Chef's kiss I yeah, okay. Next we have a trailer
for Dark Matter, which is an Apple TV show starring
Joe Edgerton and Jennifer Jennifer Connolly, I don't know why
I'm talking about it. It's a thirty second or last thing.
I didn't know this was happening. A lot of Apple

(45:05):
TV stuff. They make a lot of stuff, and some
of it gets under my radar. But this feels it's
about a guy who is dabbling in the multiverse based
on like decisions you make. In each decision you make
creates a new multiverse. He dies and wakes up in
another universe and then goes down the rabbit hole. It

(45:28):
feels also kind of fringe to me, this trailer.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I mean, there's a whole thing where it sounds like
he's been kidnapped by himself and that like another alternate
version of himself has gone to take his place in
his world, which is lifting directly off of a fantasy
novel called Moon Dreams by this guy named Brad Strickland
who's my dad. But you know, I'll overlook it.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
No, it's I mean it is pulling directly from the
book Dark Matter by Blake Crouch.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, science fiction thriller series clearly copied Brad Strickland. Who
is I'm just kidding you did not. I'm not saying
that possibly, no, there's possibly.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I don't know when their various books came out.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
This is an idea that I think would be very
easy to come about when you start thinking about parallel universes,
that kind of thing. And it looks like it's also
got a little bit of the sort of the low
fi approach to the science fiction elements, which I'm all for.
It makes me think of a Primer, which was a
time travel movie that was very low fi with its

(46:33):
special effects and stuff, but still told a really compelling story.
That's what this kind of looks like to me, Like
it looks like this nondescript block of a building that
is the gateway to the to whatever their version of
the multiverse is, which is kind of neat. So I
am all for more series that are using science fiction

(46:59):
to tell compel stories like I'm still waiting for Severance
season two because Severance also is a is using a
science fiction idea, and the science fiction, I mean, it
plays a part. It's important in the series, but it's
not the focus of the series. It just enables the
story to be told. And I cannot wait for season two.

(47:21):
So like Apple TV in particular has been kind of
catching my attention with these sorts of projects.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, yeah, I agree that they're they're trying, they're trying
to corner a market, whether intentionally or not. They're they
seem to be. Is Severance getting a season two.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yes, which is good because they they're left off with
a cliffhanger. But the last I heard like there was
I mean, obviously it got delayed during the strikes, so
I don't know. I know, I saw not too long
ago an update about when they were hoping to at

(48:02):
least finish the series, if not launch it, but I
can't remember what that was.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah, I mean, everything is still a little like back
when the strike ended, I was saying, it was being
said that like things would ramp up quickly, but that
hasn't been the case. Things have kind of slowed back down,
at least in Atlanta, partially because we might be looking
at a Nazi strike, so you know. But I was

(48:30):
just more curious because I know, I'm sure, I know
there are things that were getting developed pre strike that
then got slashed post strike, so.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I hope that's not one of them. Yeah, I think
Severance is still on track, but I have not looked
into it, so maybe by next week I will have
done my homework and I will be able to answer that.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
As long as that the homework that you didn't know
you had.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, as long as that homework also doesn't include having
to watch the first two seasons of Bridgerton, because I've
never watched an episode, and you put the trailer for
season three on here.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh yeah, I don't think it would be.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
For you, Johnathan.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
I mean, it's not romance.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
There's lots of people dressed in fancy clothes or sometimes
undressed in them, being all fancy and stuff and being
all romancing on each other.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
It does this weird like it's a period drama, but
it's not period accurate. It's not like Dunton Abbey that
went more for accuracy. I think I'm not super well
versed in that time period, so there's a lot of
like anachronistic stuff, kind of kind of like a Night's Tale,

(49:50):
which maybe it's me. That wasn't my favorite thing, but
I do like I do like Bridgerton. It's a light,
popcorny watch. Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Did you go to the big Bridgerton experience that was
here in Atlanta when they were doing that.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I did not want to have to pay for a
Bridgerton dress, to go, pay to take pictures to post
on Instagram, and have a drink and dance at a
party by myself.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, it was right across the street for me. I
could have gone with you. Then you wouldn't have to
dance with yourself. You could dance with me, you know me.
I cut a rug, I shake a leg.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah, but I don't modern cut a rug. If they
were doing actual dances, regency dances, I would be all
about it. But I don't think that was primarily the dance.
I think it was primarily DJ danced. For people who
like those experiences, it's great. I haven't really done many
of them, because again, it's a kind of high price

(50:43):
point for it has to be. It has to be
more than an Instagram dive for me.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yeah, I get you. Yeah, No, there's so many. We've
talked about this because when I talked about the Balloon Museum,
I talked about how there are a lot of those
Instagram museum experiences or whatever where it all does seem
to just be engineered for social media, where the value
you get out of it isn't actually going to the

(51:11):
thing or experiencing the thing. It's capturing your experience of
the thing. And at that point, I'm just like, y'all,
I know I'm old. I know it. You don't have
to tell me. I realize I'm old. My body reminds
me on a daily basis. But I just don't go
in for that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
There are experiences that also are highly instagrammable, but the
experience itself is something that even if you don't get
a single picture, you're going to remember it. Yeah, Miyahwulf
to me yes is one of those. And you know,
I'm in a photography scavenger hunt that I do, like
every three months there's a new one, and I pay

(51:51):
five bucks for it so I can make my own
instagrammable pictures. The problem with something like that is if
I go to like now, I know a lot of
people who have had fun at the Balloon Museum, and
that's fantastic. I bet if I went, I'd have fun.
I'm just a cheap skate. But you know, if I
take my picture in front of the same wall with
fifty balloons that somebody else does, unless I have a

(52:13):
story to go with it, it's yeah, it's paying for
a picture with Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
The Balloon Museum, I justified only because I knew that
that consisted of exhibits that actual artists had put together
with artistic intent, and it wasn't just something thrown together
to again appeal to social media. Although it definitely falls,
it's closer to that category than say, going to the
High Museum of Art, certainly by a mile. But I

(52:44):
was like, I'm willing to give this a shot because
of what it is, and I thought it was fine,
and I enjoyed the experience for what it was, and
I did take a couple of pictures, but I don't
have social media accounts where I post pictures anymore really,
so for me, it has to be an experience that
I'm going to enjoy all on its own, without the

(53:07):
social media component, because I don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
So well, and like an art exhibit would be that
I go around and I look at Christmas lights every
year because I enjoy the experience. I probably enjoy a
lantern festival or you know, going through nights of lights
or whatever. So I totally get that, and that's totally valid,
and I forgot that the balloon exhibit was also an
art exhibit that makes it much better.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yeah, but yeah, it definitely does still fall into what
you were saying though, Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, no, no, no, I was just going to bring
us back to Bridgerton.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yes three, yes, because other stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, so this season three. Each season kind of follows
the pairing up of a different sibling of the Bridgerton
family or child of the Bridgerton family, and this season
deals with Colin and his longtime childhood friend Penelope, who
comes from a less affluent but much more trying to
be a fluent family and Colin has snubbed Penelope through

(54:11):
the previous two seasons, and this is kind of where
Penelope gets her glow up, as to say, like, she
dresses better and learns to have more confidence. It's it's
kind of an ugly duckling story, but all along she's
been a power player. It's just been more undercover. And
then Colin kind of learning to be a cool dude

(54:33):
instead of kind of a butt dude. Yeah, the costuming
is a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
A butt dude, a butt he was being a butt Okay, okay,
I think being a butt is different from being a
butt dude, but well, who am I.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
To judge, okay, from being a jerkface. Is that better?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Okay, got it? Now you're speaking my language.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Okay, And and sort of their romance. I do think
it's it's a little funny. It was recently in the
news that Nikola Coughlin, who plays Penelope Featherington, she was
also in Dairy Girls if you recognize the name, agreed
to do this season if she could get a PG
cut to share with her parents.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
I think it's delightful. If you like romance and you
like a Night's Tale, you'll probably like Bridgerton. I'm not
normally a romance girly, but I don't know. Yeah, it's
an easy watch.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I was worried while watching the trailer that it was
going to turn into one of those let's let her
hair down and take off her glasses. Now suddenly the
girl is like stunning, But it's not handled so heavy
handed as that in the trailer, at least so that
that is somewhat reassuring.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yeah. I mean, she's very smart through the entire series,
and I think she's I think Nicoloa Cofflin's gorgeous. She is,
you know, it's it's more it's more that learning that
confidence in self assuredance. I was gonna say something else,
but now I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
I'm very good at hijacking the conversation.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
No, no, that's good. No, I'm looking forward to it. Oh.
I really did like Queen Charlotte, though I think I
talked about that when I watched it, which was an
offshoot because in the Bridgerton series, Queen Charlotte is the
reigning monarch. She was married to King George who went mad.
The Madness of King George is a really great old movie.

(56:41):
I don't know if it holds up, but it's a
great old movie. It's not that old, but you did
have mental illness what.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I said, it's not that old. But yeah, I said,
it's not that old. But that's because I remember when
that movie came out in theaters.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
It was in the nineties, right, yeah, yeah, it's not
that when Helen Mirren was considered young.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
She's still hot, though I'm not gonna she is.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
She is. Look, I don't think age and attractiveness go
hand in hand. I love The Madness of King George
the third. I thought it was a good movie. It
could probably use a slight update. But regardless, I thought
that the Queen Charlotte series, while still a romance series,
dealt very well with a spouse dealing with another spouse

(57:30):
who is struggling with mental illness, and it was in
that time period, and so I found it very moving.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Actually I cried, here's here's hoping that for Bridgerton fans
that they get a season that stands up to the
other ones. They already enjoyed the trailer. Like, I don't
have a point of reference, So I'll say that the
trailer looked like it was very well produced, but it

(57:59):
didn't to me, simply because that's not that's not my world.
So that's not a judgment on the series itself. It's
just that I have no point of contact with that show.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah, and then we were going to talk about a
whole bunch of things that were hitting the news, Nosferatu,
Wicked or LANs, Deadpool, and Wolverine. But really the only
news is that news outlets are saying, hey, we got
to go to CinemaCon and you didn't. So we saw
cool stuff and you don't get to see it yet.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah. Yeah, Like all of this stuff was stuff where
people were expressly told not to take their phones out
and shoot footage of it. In fact, Hugh Jackman as
Wolverine apparently had a profanity laced filmed statement about how
that was not allowed. It sounded like it was hilarious,

(58:49):
But we didn't get to see that either because no
one was allowed to shoot, so we just got descriptions
of everything after the fact.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Yeah, which is frustrating when I'm seeing a bunch of
articles going first looks at Nosparatu and then there's nothing. Yeah,
ar Like if you go on the IMDb page, there's
a couple of things, but it's not what they were eluding.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Right, It's like it's theater of the mind. They're just
describing it and you have to imagine it. There were
a couple of things, like images released and stuff that
we did get to see, Like I think it was
Bill Scarsguard who's playing the vampire Orlock not in nos Faratu,
Like there's a picture of him as Orlock, but we

(59:30):
didn't get to see the nine minutes of footage they
showed of Deadpool and Wolverine, for example. But Yeah, it
sounds like there was a lot of impressive stuff. I
would have liked to have seen more like reactions from
various folks who did go just to kind of get
a feel for what worked and what didn't. But yeah,

(59:51):
I'm sure it was cool to have been there.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yeah, the reactions I saw for nos Faratu were that
it was very good and it's going to be very
genuinely skied.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
So that's good. Then be able to handle it, sure
you will. You can just sit there and go like,
this is just like bred Stoker's Dracula.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
That wasn't scary.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
That's what I'm saying. If you could just say that
over and over again, you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
With my eyes close and my ears plugged, and so
it will. Actually I'll just be I'll actually be watching
bram Stoker's Dracula just in the theater. For Nosparato.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I mean, I wouldn't put it past someone in some
of the theaters I've been in, So.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yeah, that is true. Although I will say the last
movie I went to go see, Ghostbusters, ended up having
a really like respectful audience in it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
It was delightful, nice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah, it was super great. Nobody was on their phone.
The only time people were talking were like laughing a
little bit. It was it was a wonderful experience. It
wasn't a super full theater, unfortunately, but everybody there was
super cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Speaking of super emphasis on the super.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Did you like Heroes?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Uh? I, so you're talking about the television series Heroes. Yes,
I watched the I like the first season of Heroes,
but it was one of those shows where the longer
the season went on, the more it was clear that
the show creators had an idea for where they wanted

(01:01:27):
to go, but they had not really plotted it out
because there was a lot of like stalling it felt
like to get to you know, because they did a
lot of establishing first up. Because the whole concept of
Heroes is that normal people start to manifest superpowers, and
not everyone gets them, but the people who do get them,

(01:01:48):
they don't know what connects them or why they've suddenly
got superpowers, and some of them decide to embrace their
superpowers and become heroes, some of them become villains. Them
tried to ignore the fact that they have powers entirely,
and it was a really interesting concept. This was before
we got to the explosion of superhero content that would

(01:02:10):
follow in further years, right, like, we did not have
the Marvel Cinemac universe when Heroes came out, And the
reason we brought it up is because the creator of
that series, Tim Kring, is planning on doing a new series,
not a reboot either or not exactly. It's supposed to

(01:02:32):
be new characters in that same world from what I gather,
so that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Yeah, although they said some of the villains might be
the same, and I think that that might be a
mistake because I think the biggest problem because I watched
one of the later seasons of Heroes, they ended up
going to a carnival and really clear the cheerleader was
one of the only over arguing characters, and I feel

(01:03:01):
like it was a mistake to have old characters come
through to the new story. I also watched the spin
off that they had later that had like a video
game girl in it, but it had hero from the
original Heroes in it, and that was okay. But again,
when you're trying to put your old, convoluted story into

(01:03:23):
a new story and make it make sense, it just
gets messy. So I hope they come up with new
villains for it, and I'd enjoy the original series.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
It's also weird because now, of course, we do live
in a world where we have a glut of superhero content,
both from Marvel and DC, and then other stuff that's
not necessarily directly connected to Marvel or DC but still
kind of falls in that superhero genre. And I'm very
curious if there will be as much of an appetite

(01:03:54):
for a new heroes series when at least for some people,
there's still this perception of there's nothing to go see
in the theater except superhero movies, because that seems to
be like the most popular genre in theaters year after year.
It's a little less so this year than it has
been in years past, like Marvel has chilled the heck

(01:04:16):
out at least for as far as film releases. I
think Deadpool Versus Deadpool and Wolverine is like the only
one we're getting this year, I think, whereas in most years, I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Think they're advertising Fantastic four.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Sure, but we're not getting it this year, right, Like
there are some years where we were getting three or
four MCU movies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
So yeah, I personally feel like there's a difference with
heroes though, because it's not in a world that is
set up to have superheroes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Yeah, I guess. I mean it's interesting because I would say,
the first Iron Man felt that way to me, right, Like,
there was no indication in Iron Man that all these
other heroes had already existed, Like you didn't know about
Captain Marvel or Captain America. Even in that first Iron
Man movie, there was no reference to them. So like,
as far as you could tell, iron Man was like

(01:05:09):
and of course he doesn't actually have superpowers. He builds
a suit that gives him those powers. But you know,
iron Man was like an anomaly and it was only
later that you started to find out. Oh no, actually,
this universe has a rich history of superpowered individuals. Let
me introduce you to the Eternals and then you can
walk away because that is boring as heck.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
But wasn't there like a like an Easter egg in
the Norton version of The Hulk?

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Yeah, yeah, at the very end of The Hulk? Well yeah,
because that because that movie is in the Marvel Cinemac universe.
The Hulk is the second film in the Marvel Cinemac universe.
The first one is The Iron is iron Man, and
the second one is is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
The Whole The Help come out after iron Man?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
It did it came out first? No, it came out
after because Robert Dunny Junior as Tony Stark shows up
at the very end and talks to Thunderbolt Ross. Yeah,
that's like, that's like Iron Man's first. And I know
this because I own the Phase one through four DVD

(01:06:12):
sets and they are organized chronologically by release date, not
by when the film takes place, but by release date.
So I did too. Like when I sat there and
thought back on, I was like, Oh, the Hulk came
out and then they decided they were going to do
this big interconnected universe. Nope, The Hulk was movie two

(01:06:35):
in the series. Just it was a movie that hardly
anyone went to go see, which is why it was
such a big deal. When they recast the character with
Mark Ruffalo coming in, that was a big big thing.
And Robert Donney Junr at that comic con came out
and hyped up the crowd to introduce Mark Ruffalo, knowing

(01:06:57):
that there was already this like her to get over
because he wasn't the guy who played the Hulk in
the film.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
So interesting things that, you know, every geek has their
blind spots. That was one of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
I mean I only know it because I looked it
up well after the fact, because I was the same
as you. I thought the Hulk came out before Iron
Man and then it was only like retro fitted to
be kind of sort of in part of the timeline.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't hate it. I didn't hate that
Ed Norton Hulk. Well, and I know that we've gotten
tim Roth in like she Hulk as the Abomination.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Yeah. Yeah, And there's I think there's talk of some
of the other characters from that Hulk film potentially showing
up in other Marvel movies down the line, but we'll
have to have to see. And yeah, I don't think
I ever even finished the movie. I started watching it
because I again, I own it in that DVD set,
and I think I got two thirds the way through

(01:08:00):
and then something came up and I turned it off,
and I never bothered turning it back on, which tells
you how much it grabbed me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I do that with a lot of movies. I do
that with more TV shows, and I hate it because
I'll like the TV show and then I'll get distracted
because there is so much media out there. As an actor,
I love it, but as a viewer it's sometimes hard.
And then that TV show gets canceled because enough people
didn't watch the first season to the end, and I'm
a part of the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Well for me. For me, it happens with shows that
just stay on the air and then I get further
and further behind to a point where I am intimidated
to jump back in. Like Bob's Burgers is a great example.
I love that show, but I paused watching it like
five or six years ago, and now there's all those

(01:08:47):
episodes and I'm like, I really need to get back
to it. And the longer I wait, the more there's
going to be to watch. But there's so much already.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yeah. See that's I I'm I've taken a break, but
I'm watching through Community and King of the Hill and
there was I'm starting after they finished, but there was
there's a lot to get through.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
So I understand, Well, we still have something to get
through too, even though our show's running a bit long.
And that is we promise y'all a mash up, and
we've got it. And the two properties we decided to
mash up were Dune and Spice World, the Spice Girls movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Yeah, this was Jonathan's idea. I know that some of
you are not as big of a fan as the mashups.
A lot of you guys have said we want mash ups,
so this is your fault. This was Jonathan's idea, but
we do have your suggestions that have come through on
discord an email to work to go through as we
continue to do mashups. Is just for the first one,

(01:09:51):
we wanted to lob like an easy like a softball.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Okay, yeah, yeah, we have to. We have to shake
the ring rust off because we haven't done the in
a long time. So Ariel, do you want to go
first or shall I?

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
I can go first because it's shorter. If everybody should
know what done is, because we've talked about it a
bunch on this show. If you aren't familiar with Spice World,
it is a movie that the Spice Girls made. The
Spice Girls Well, I'll explain it in my mashup. So
we didn't actually compare titles. So if I've taken your title, Jonathan,

(01:10:29):
I'm very sorry. This is called Spice Up Your Spice.
I love it, so Spice up your life. Okay, So
the girls were at it again. You know the Spice Girls,
that sexy britpop band from the late nineties early two thousands,
and by again I mean they were gearing up to
do a reunion tour to once more take London and

(01:10:50):
the world by storm. They loaded into their double decker
bus and headed on their adventure. But for those who
are familiar, adventure for the Spice Girls was rarely without danger,
and it was no different this time, I'm sort of.
As soon as they started on their tour prep, the
earthquakes started, never massive, but enough to take note of.
Earthquakes are not unheard of in London, but they weren't

(01:11:10):
super common either, and that's when the girls noticed it.
A shadowy figure with glowing blue eyes watching them. The
girls upped their security and locked the doors, but everywhere
they went the same thing happened. Earthquake, shadowy figure with
glowing blue eyes. Yet the figure never did more than
be a creeper. Then, one day, while the Spice Girls

(01:11:31):
were at their final sound check for their tour, they
had had enough scary. Spice, being the bravest, marched right
up to the figure and demanded an explanation for its
stockery behavior. The figure apologized and introduced themselves as Lido
to a tradees. He said that the Spice on their
planet was becoming scarce, largely due to the disappearance of sandworms,
and he had gotten a signal that there were spiceworms

(01:11:53):
on a distant planet called Earth, so he had his
navigator send them to Earth pronto. Unfortunately, Lito was dismayed
to find out that the signal was misinterpreted interpreted, and
that spice worms were actually spice women. But he had
also noticed the earthquakes and so followed the women to
see if there was any truth at all to the
original assumption, and sadly, up to this point his efforts

(01:12:13):
were turning up nothing. Scary was admittedly confused, but relayed
the info to the other girls, and, being such chill
and cool folk, while they couldn't help Lito, they did
invite him to their concert that night, and that is
when things took a turn for the weird. I have
a typo here where my computer instead, things took Saturn

(01:12:33):
for the weird. By the way, at the concert that night,
as soon as they began to play, a massive earthquake hit,
rending the floor of the concert hall. Something or some
things was coming right for the girls. They called for
the hall to be evacuated, and that's when they saw them,
the five most massive sandworms to ever exist, accidentally transported

(01:12:53):
to the center of the Earth and called forth by
the massive good vibrations of the Spice Girl's music. They
had a Lito too, tried to save them, but it
was too late. The sandworms devoured the Spice Girls and
all seemed to be lost. But in a magic sailor
Moon esque turn of events, the girls in the sandworms
were merged together into some sort of symbiote. Leedo knew
this was a fate foretold for him, but now that

(01:13:16):
he saw it, he was real glad it happened to
someone else. The Spiceworm Girls, however, never to be stopped,
took their new forms and stride. Their new more wormy
bodies provided a soul vibrating addition to their music that
had never been heard or felt on Earth before, calling
to the hearts of all music connoisseurs. The band continued
their tour, launched their own line of spice based products,

(01:13:37):
and merched to sell to both Earth and Oracus and
the rest of space, saving multiple planets, bringing a new
vibe to the music industry and securing trade throughout the galaxies.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
The End Wow okay, well you as always. Before we
started recording, Ariel expressed the concern that perhaps, despite the
fact that we do not collaborate at all when we're
working on our mashups, that we might have created the
same story. I can rest I can you can rest
assured we did not. That was great. Okay, that was great.

(01:14:10):
Uh mine, I'm gonna call it Spice World sealed with
Erra Kiss instead of a Racus, but it is Era Kiss.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Spicy Paul has a problem, well, he's got a lot
of problems. For one thing, his Spice Daddy got all murderized.
And by Spice Daddy, I mean his actual father, not
some sort of special friend. Spice Daddy's demise means that
Spicy Paul has inherited the Spice World and managing baby Posh, Ginger,

(01:14:46):
sporty and scary has been quite the task. Not only
are the five Spice Girls all independent women getting it done,
they've all become a little frustrated by the fact that
the fremen on Spice World aren't so into their brand
of bubble gum pop, which means their concerts typically end
up being for a couple of Rocks and the odd sandworm.

(01:15:06):
What's worse is that Nick Maxford Harkenin seems determined to
end their careers once and for all. And boy howdy
has hearkened and tried for one thing. He's the guy
responsible for the murderization of Spicy Paul's Spice Daddy. I
know he's a terrible person, but our Spice five aren't
ready to lay it all down just yet. They have

(01:15:28):
a big plan to win the fremen over with a
free outdoor concert in the sand Bowl, which is the
name for the outdoor amphitheater on Oracus. It's down to
Spicy Paul to get all the details just right, and
he sure does have his work cut out for him.
It's hard to convince his five charges to wear their
still suits. For example, eck no, I won't put that

(01:15:49):
thing up my nose. Ginger would say, you'll die without it,
argues Spicy Paul. If I wore it, I would immediately
die from shame, posh, I replied, and ultimately Paul had
to settle on the girls, making significant changes to the
suit's design, almost all of which negated the purpose for
wearing it in the first place. In fact, most of

(01:16:10):
his days were spent scrambling up what little water there
was just to keep the girls alive. Now we pause
the film so that we get the Spice Girls singing
Saturday Night Sandworms. Okay. Meanwhile, Nick Maxford Harkenin gets wind
of the concert plans, and he says, we must destroy
Spicy Paul and his Spice Girls. And he bellows this

(01:16:31):
to no one in particular, and soon he develops a plan.
He will send a CD photographer named Richard O'Brien, who
also was Riff Raff and Rocky Horror Picture Show. And
Richard O'Brien's gotta go and sneak up on the girls
and take pictures and videos of them during unflattering moments,
all in an effort to discredit them in the eyes
of fans. Also, he would send Peter da Frees, who

(01:16:54):
is an evil mentos and upon contact with Diet Koke,
he explodes, and it would be Peter Deviree his job
to take out Spicy Paul. So then we have to
pause the movie again because now the Spice Girls have
to sing I'm the leader of the Fremen open Bracket,
I am closed bracket. Then we cut back to Spicy Paul,

(01:17:15):
who's running into issues with the plan forgetting the group
to the sand Bowl on time because the girls keep
asking for time off so they can spend it with
their ben ages are at friend Nikola, who is expecting
and is due any day now, but Spicy Paul keeps
denying them. He's worried about distractions leading up to the
sand Bowl, as well as the fact that mc maxford
hearkened in his intent on destroying them all. But the

(01:17:37):
girls do slip away and they find themselves out in
front of a crashed ornithopter in the middle of the desert. Yeah,
do you remember when we did a gig it and
it's very crashed, soight when we would just starting out,
says Scary Spice. I do, I do? I do, says
Baby Spice, And then Sporty Spice says something that's not
very funny and just reminds every one of that time

(01:17:58):
that she was on Big that Quish the year and
no one liked her Anyway, the girls run into Nikki
and they decide it's time to go dancing. Just as
they get into a groove with a cool song called
Fear is the Mind Killer, Nikola goes into labor, and
there's this hilarious sequence where they try to get her
to a hospital before they realize there aren't any hospitals
on Spice World that aren't under direct Hearken in control.

(01:18:21):
So Nikola gives birth in the desert to a little girl,
and that plot gets to go away now, but then
we pause the film so that the Spice Girls can
sing if you want to be my Quizot's Hadarak, And
then the girls suddenly realize that they're running late for
that concert, so Spicy Paul is sure gonna be miffed,
and we do a smash cut to Spicy Paul who's
murdering the heck out of Peter Devrees by pouring a

(01:18:42):
two liter of diet coke down his throat, which causes
him to blow up. As I mentioned earlier, smash cut
back to the girls who run into Richard O'Brien, but
then they convince him to stop being a creep and
instead maybe go to do another sequel to Rocky Horror
Picture Show, you know, like Shock Treatment, And O'Brien sighs
and says fine, and on his way out he ends
up blackmailing mcmxford harkenin with photos of him romping around

(01:19:04):
with some floozies and this big, oily, nasty ooze pit
that he likes to bathe in, So that plot can
go away now too, and we pause the movie again
so that the Spice girls can sing. The lady is
a reverend mother and also a vamp. Then the girl's
song attracts the attention of a sandworm, which they quickly wrangle,
and then they ride the sandworm in a frenzied attempt
to get to the sand Bowl on time for the concert,

(01:19:25):
and at one point apropos of nothing with no setup whatsoever,
Baby Spice discovers there's a bomb on the worm why
who knows? Probably won't come back anyway, so the worm
gets to the venue just in time, though some Fremen
Highway patrol are really miffed about the traffic violations, but
formerly fortunately rather with some eyelash batting from Baby Spice,

(01:19:47):
the girls are able to get through and they get
to the Sandy Bowl, which is just packed with Fremen
because Spicy Paul has done a great job promoting the
event and they have a fantastic show, but unfortunately it
attracts like twelve more sandworms and everyone gets eaten. Also
at the very en, the bomb sand worm explodes and
it's really gross the end, But over the credits we

(01:20:09):
get the song, the final song, which is called Dune
Spice Up your Life. It goes a little something like
la la la la la, la la la la. When
you need to fly through space, will throw spice right
in your face. You will feel that you will change
when you dose with our melane fremen, raise your fists,

(01:20:33):
Spice up your life, mintets with a twist, Spice up
your life. Hearkenin's in your midst Spice up your life.
Ah ornithopteris to the lift if you're having a good time.
Sandwich to your right, if you know that you feel fine,
Bna jesert to the front. Hah, go round and then
like all the girls in the audience will start singing
this while the credits are going, and it will get

(01:20:55):
in your head and it will give you a migraine
and you're really good. Friends will ins on singing it
at karaoke and it's clear they're having a fun time,
and that's good. Like that should happen. You should be
supportive of the fact that your friends are just enjoying
themselves even though it is killing you to sit through
that experience. The end, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
I'm surprised you didn't full out sing, but oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
It's partly because I forgot how the tune goes. Like
it's one of those things where like I thought before
we started recording, like I should probably listen to the
song just to remember how itll But like, honestly, that
bit about the karaoke thing is real in that sometimes
at karaoke sometimes that song gets picked and the women

(01:21:46):
in the group love to sing it, which is fantastic.
I do not wish to yuck their yum or deny
their joy. And by singing, I really am being kind
because it's more like screaming it. And by the end
of it, I'm just like I need I need a
quiet place for a little while.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Uh. Full disclosure. While I liked the Spice girls, I
didn't enjoy their music till kind of after they stopped
being in prominence. But you said nobody liked Melanie c
Sporty Spice. I didn't watch her on that Big Fat
Quiz show. Is that what it's called?

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah, it's actually actually it was Scary Spice who was
on the Big Fat Quiz Show. That was me making
a mistake in my script, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Because I would saying I don't know much about any
of the Spice girls other than that Victoria Beckham is
Posh Spice is married to a soccer player. Yeah, but
Melanie c did play an amazing Mary Magdalen in Jesus
Christ Superstar just blew it out of the water.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Yes, yes, yeah, so the the Yeah, it was mel
B who was in Big Fat Quiz Show, So I
should have said Scary Spice, not Sporty Spice. That was
on me. That is sloppy writing on my part, But
in my defense, it's two people with the almost identical names.
What's also funny is that I didn't know this either,
because full disclosure, I've never seen Spice World all the

(01:23:14):
way through. I've seen bits of it, but I didn't
remember until I actually watched the preview for the film
that by this point they weren't going by Baby Posh
and Ginger, they were going by their names. So that
was something that I had already but already written that part,
and it's like, no, they're going to keep it with

(01:23:35):
Baby Posh ginger, scary and sporty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
I don't remember that at all. I think I do
remember baby Spice being like, this is kind of weird
that I got to be a baby in that. I
might also be.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Making that up in my head in the trailer, at
least they the voiceover references them by like Emma and
you know Melby and Melcy and et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
So gotcha. Well that is it for our show. We
got to wrap things up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Don't ask me, don't ask me. Don't ask me how
they get into contact, because if we're doing mashups, I'm
not also doing a log explanation of how they can
get in touch with us.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Cool, so maybe we'll alternate. So if you do want
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(01:24:36):
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(01:24:59):
share your fun, share your own mashups, tell your friends.
And uh, I'm done rambling, as Jonathan shakes his water
bottle at me. So until next time, I am Ariel,
uh ginger but not the spice cast In.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
And I'm Jonathan. You gotta get with my friends. Strickland
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