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December 2, 2023 49 mins

The Max streaming platform will say goodbye to a whole bunch of geeky properties at the end of the year. Plus, we talk about the trailer for Furiosa, our reaction to the promotional images for the Fallout TV series, and we don't have many nice things to say about the preview for the upcoming Ted streaming series. Plus more!

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor Drunk Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Castin, and with me, as always,
is the ever so Merry Jonathan structs. I'm on vacation,
That's why you're ever so merry.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm assuming I'm certainly extremely merry right now. Yeah. In fact,
I'll be going to Mickey's very merry Christmas party in
a few days when I go down to Florida. But
right now, I'm still in Atlanta, and we wanted to
make sure we got an episode in before I went
on vacation because right now we don't know whether or

(00:52):
not we'll be able to record one next week. I
hope we can, but I'll be traveling back on We
record on Fridays, and I'll be traveling back on Friday,
and I still have to go and pick up my
dog from my parents' house, which is not close to
the Atlanta airport, nor is it that close to my house.

(01:12):
So we'll see whether or not Ariel wants to stay
up that late and record an episode.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah. Well, well, and we'll see if you are feeling
up to it too, because yeah, that is fair. If
you aren't, then that's good. That's gonna make for some
interesting listening.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So, yes, that's true. We can get a very grouchy
Jonathan like, yeah, whatever, let's talk about this geek crap.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
It'll be all Grinch episode.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
It'll be all Grinches all the time. Merry Christmas, you
have filthy animal. We're gonna We're gonna chat first about
stuff what we have seen recently, because both Ariel and
I actually have something to talk about, uh in this
segment before we go to our thirty seconds or less.
So Ariel, tell me about your experience is watching geeky

(02:01):
stuff over the past couple of weeks. Sure.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
So I finished the season two of Loki, which was
fun because I picked it back up right after the
Calamity finale and it was the episode where they're in
Chicago at the World's Fair, and so that just felt
very thematically appropriate. But I finished it. I liked it.
It was fun. I don't think I liked it as
much as season one, but I liked it. I watched

(02:25):
all of this Scott Pilgrim takes Off, which is the
Netflix cartoon series, and that was just such a delight
the first episode. If you haven't watched it yet but
you like Scott Pilgrim and it's on your list, I'm
gonna warn you the first episode starts off and you're like,
am I just watching the movie again? But that's not
the case. Stick with it. It's ridiculous. Make sure you
watch the credits at the end because the guest stars

(02:48):
that they have doing voice work on the show is
also phenomenal. And then I watched the first Doctor Who
episode of the new series and I loved it. I
loved it. I was so good to have Russell T.
Davies back. I thought it was a fun story. I
learned that my cat, if anybody's on the discord saw
me post this, that my cat is actually a Doctor
Who alien, because they've been talking about it a little

(03:10):
bit over there, And yeah, I just thought it was
I just thought it was a lot of fun. I
thought it was a lot of fun. I loved seeing
Donna back. And then I watched a first episode of Invincible,
but I won't talk about that because that's what I watched.
I'm not the most Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Did you watch the first episode of season two of Invincible,
or the first episode of Invincible full stop. Season two.
Got it of season.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Two because I was like, I need something that's a
little bit lighter than Barry, and I think I might
have chosen wrong.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah. No, Invincible is grim and gory and violent and depressing.
Season two is real depressing. So if you're not familiar
with the concept of Invincible, the story is that there's
this incredible superman like superhero named Omni Man who has

(04:03):
a son, and his son takes on the superhero name
of Invincible, and his son is learning how to use
his powers and everything, and then his son finds out
that his dad isn't all he thought he was. He's
not a hero at all. He's a terrible, terrible, terrible,
terrible person. And that's putting it lightly. And season one

(04:24):
is pretty much all about how that kind of leads
up to a big confrontation. Season two is kind of
the aftermath of that and people trying to pick up
the pieces and move forward and people living with the
choices they made. And there's a lot of comedy in
the show. It's not like it's all super dark and grim.

(04:45):
It's kind of like the Boys that it has this
take on the superhero genre that is not like the bright,
shiny Superman take on it, that's much more dark and gritty.
Season two has some interesting episodes that are not all
about the character Invincible, which is kind of interesting as well.

(05:10):
And they're releasing this season in two chunks. So the
first chunk was four episodes, so I watched all four
of them because I had watched the first season and
I enjoyed it, which is a weird thing to say,
because sometimes it was very very upset while watching it.
But I thought it was very well done. Whereas Buriel
watched a lot of stuff that she found delightful, this

(05:32):
was not delightful, but it was compelling.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's good to know. Would you say that it's darker
than Barry.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
No, No, I would say that Barry. Okay, Barry's final
season is bleak, like it is bleak. Barry's final season
is bleak. Especially, gosh, there's some there's some hard stuff
in that final season. Okay, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Why I am watching Invincible first.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
It's two different It's two very different kinds of dark. Right,
Like Barry, it's watching a tragedy unfold because you are
already pretty sure where this is gonna lead like it's
hard to imagine very ending with a happy ending, Like
it's just hard to imagine that being possible, and so
you're really just watching a train wreck in very slow

(06:25):
motion unfold. Invincible, there's still a possibility of a happy ending,
but the odds are high that it's gonna cost an
awful lot to get there.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah. I will say I find Invincible easier to watch
than The Boys because it's not not live action. It
doesn't feel as gross, like there's a lot of violence
and there's a lot of gross stuff in there. Yeah, well,

(06:58):
I feel like it's a more compelling store.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Invincible doesn't have the other form of abuse. Besides, like
Invincible's violence is all just pure violence. You don't have
a lot of like male on female forced violence kind
of stuff that happens in The Boys. Yeah, and I

(07:22):
mean that like in the Boys first season, that's a
thing and it doesn't let up in frest episode. Yeah,
it's not like it is beyond unpleasant, very compelling television,
but incredibly unpleasant. Invincible does not have that element, but
it is really dark.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Gotcha. I did watch one more thing today before popping on,
so I didn't add it to the notes. But Dropout
has released a trailer for their new show, Very Important People.
And if you haven't seen it, Jonathan or anybody who
has drop Out who also listens to our show, I
know there's a couple of you. It looks so much fun.
I laughed so hard at one point my husband called
out for me at the room to ask if I

(08:04):
was okay.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
So I'll have to check that out. Oh I did. Also,
what did I talk about this last time? I don't
think I did, because I think I watched it in between.
But tell me if I did, I watched the whole
hell House series.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
You did talk about watching some horror movies. I don't
remember which one.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
It might have been the Hellhouse series. So out of consideration,
I will not dive into my thoughts on the hell
House series A part to say that, in case this
is reiterating, parts one and four I thought were good,
and parts two and three I thought were entertaining in
parts but otherwise not that good.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Hey start and finish strong, and what's in the middle
doesn't matter as much.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, all right, Well, I think that leads us well
into our thirty seconds or less segment, which again is honestly,
like when we get through this and we start talking
about the stories in our main lineup, arguably they all
could have been thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But we'll see, Yeah, this might be a shorter episode,
so we'll see. Maybe it'll all be thirty like a
minute in under I don't know, Okay, So the first
thing we have is Shane McGowan passed away. If you
don't know him, he was the front man for the Pogues.
I think he was sixty five when he passed, Yes,
sixty five. He passed away from encephalitis. He honestly hadn't

(09:26):
been healthy for quite a while, but he passed peacefully
with his family and friends. You know, it's sad that
it happened right now because the Pogues wrote fairy Tale
of New York, which is a Christmas song, and now
we're hitting the Christmas season. So I don't know if
that's poetic irony or if it's just sad, but certainly

(09:46):
his passing is sad, and to everybody who loved him,
you know our cumnolences.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yes, And I know thirty seconds are less, but I'm
a huge Pogues fan. That's fine. Kirsty McCall, who I'm
surprised you didn't take it. Well, you were the one
who submitted it. Chirsty McCall, who was the other singer
in Fairytale of New York. She also tragically passed away
years and years ago. So now both of these singers
featured in that song have passed on, and it's an

(10:16):
amazing song. It is not a happy Christmas song, and
there's also some foul language in it, just to keep
you on the up and up. It is not your
typical Christmas song. But yeah, very sad to hear of
his passing. All right, here's my first thirty seconds or less.

(10:36):
Now that the various strikes are over, we're hearing a
lot about various productions getting back up to speed, and
one of those is Venom three, according to star Tom Marty. Now,
originally the plan was to release Venom three on July
twelfth of next year. That has now been pushed back
to November eighth, so still for next year. So in
case Craven and Madam Webb don't have you excited, which

(10:59):
would be sane, then maybe the next film in the
Spidey without Spidey spin off will excite you. So there
you go.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I stand by it. I liked the first Venom. It's
the only one I've watched. Okay. Another thing that picked
up production very briefly was Beetlejuice Too. Apparently when a
strike happened, they only had a day and a half
of shooting left and now that's over. They're done with
principal photography. It's supposed to come out I think later
this year. Oh yeah, it's supposed to come out in September.

(11:33):
I am excited that Willem Deflow is playing a deceased
action star turned detective, so he's basically playing Bruce Campbell,
which is enough for me to see the movie all
by itself. But I'm glad that they were able to
get everybody back to finish up because I know how
frustrating it is to be so close to the end
of a project and not be able to complete it.

(11:56):
That gives me anxiety.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's also not the last time mentioned Willem Dafoe in
this podcast, but anyway, next up, Marvel has tapped Michael
Waldron to write both upcoming Avengers films that would be
The Kang Dynasty and then Secret Wars. Waldron is the
creator of the MCU streaming service Loki that Ariel talked
about just moments ago, and that of course introduced Kang

(12:19):
to the MCU. Waldron also wrote Doctor Strange in the
Multiverse of Madness, So you know, your mileage may vary.
It's not all good. Currently, the plan is for The
Kang Dynasty to premiere on May first, twenty twenty six,
and Secret Wars on May seventh, twenty twenty seven, so
we got a while to wait. Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Next is something we talked about a while ago, which
is the sequel to This is Spinal Tap. It is
still in the works. It begins production in February, starring
Christopher Guest, Michael McKeon, and Harry Shearer. But apparently we're
also going to get some fun guest stars like Paul McCartney,
Elton John and Garth Brooks. I like this is Spinal
Tap a lot. I wonder how a sequel will hold

(12:59):
up current day, because I haven't watched it all too recently.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think it'll be fun to have like the whole
aging rock star element in there, kind of like you know,
sort of spoofing off of bands like the Rolling Stones,
you know, and the original film also had a ton
of interesting supporting characters and cameos and like Fran Dresher,
Billy Crystal. You know, there were a lot of people
that if you watch the film, you're like, oh my gosh,

(13:27):
that guy is in it. It's pretty cool, all right.
James Cameron has said that Avatar three is in post
production and will continue to be in post production for
two more years. Will they plan premiere date around Christmas
twenty twenty five. Avatar four is currently expected to debut
on December twenty first, twenty twenty nine, and Part five

(13:50):
on December nineteenth, twenty thirty one, which will put it
twenty two years after the original Avatar film. Also, Cameron
plans to become a New Zealand citizen next year.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Good for New Zealand. I do like in the article
you posted, which will put in our show notes when
all of these actors start thinking about how old they
will be when when the series ends. Speaking of speaking
of old series, did you know that the movie Hook,
the story about Peter Pan who has grown up and
become an accountant and now goes back to never Land

(14:23):
to fight Dustin Hoffman along with Pretty Woman, You was
originally going to be a musical. Neither did. I yeah,
but apparently if you did, or if you're just finding out,
but it's still excited about it. The News movie soundtrack,
the expanded movie soundtrack that they're releasing for the movie,

(14:44):
will include some of those musical numbers, and that is
exciting to me. I look forward to them actually putting
it up on stage, and I wonder if Jonathan will
like it better as a musical.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh man, I wanted to like that movie. I love
Dustin hoff performance, and I love that you referred to
Julia Roberts as pretty woman. All right. Lion's Gate has
secured the rights to adapt the Stephen King's story The
Long Walk into a film. That story is set in
the dystopian future in which kids compete with each other
on an epic walk, with the last one left standing

(15:17):
the winner and for the losers, well it's pretty grim. J. T.
Mulner will write the adaptation, and Francis Lawrence, the director
of The Hunger Games The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes
and Ladders, is going to direct.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Interesting. I never read The Longest Walk, but I've heard
it synopsized to me, and it disturbs me. Something else
I've never done has played Grand Theft Auto. But for
everybody who's looking forward to the next Grand Theft Auto game,
the trailer for six arrives on Tuesday, and by that
I mean the fifth So yeah, I know people have

(15:54):
been waiting for it. So for all those GTA fans,
congratulations and happy holiday.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah. I'll be in Epcot on that day, so I'll
probably have to watch it when I get back. Maybe
I doubt i'll even by the time I get back
to the hotel, I'm not going to be conscious, so
let's just be honest. It'll be a few days for
me to wait and see it. Eli Roth's horror film
Thanksgiving was a surprise hit, having been inspired by a
tongue in cheek fake trailer for the double feature film

(16:23):
grind House sixteen years ago. And I hope you have
room for seconds because the Hollywood Reporter says Roth will
return for the sequel, which tri Star Pictures plans to
release in twenty twenty five. I thought Thanksgiving was a fun,
schlocky horror film, very heavy on the gore, but that's
Roth's style.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Interesting. Also interesting, the US Postal Service announced that they
are they announce their twenty four season stamps, which they do,
but this upcoming year, we are getting a series of
D and D stamps to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of
Dungeons and Dragons. They're all based off of previous like

(17:05):
cover artist books.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
And things like that, and other art like official artwork
from D and D.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
But they're delightful. They're delightful.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Cool roll to save against lost mail, all right, hah. Finally,
Universal Pictures released a second trailer for the upcoming film
Night Swim, which is about a supernatural evil lurking in
a swimming pool attached to a house. As far as
I can tell, the film's inspiration is a short film
from the same director that was made several years ago.

(17:34):
It was also called night Swim. You can see it
on YouTube. It is two minutes forty five seconds long
once he cut the credits off. I know because I
actually watched it a year ago when I got on
a short horror film kick and I have no idea
how they stretched a thin concept, not even a premise
like this. It's so short, it's like just an idea.

(17:54):
There's no story. I don't know how they stretch that
to be a feature link film, but it comes out
on January, so I guess I'll find out.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, you can watch that. I tried to watch the trailer.
I got five seconds in. I'm like, I'm gonna have
to watch this with no sound on double speed. I
still couldn't do it. I like swimming at night.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I know, okay, and you know what, like, I really don't.
You know, maybe it'll turn out to be a great
horror film, but I think part of the problem is
that some of these horror shorts, they're so effective because
they're leaning very heavily on evocative imagery and very like

(18:32):
shocking twists that only work in the context of a
very short production, and you can't really tease that out
over the course of like ninety minutes or whatever. There
was that one I can't remember what the name is now,
but there was that one short film where there's a
woman she's in her house and when she turns off

(18:55):
a hall light, she sees a silhouette of a figure
menacingly stand. When she turns it on, there's nothing there.
And then she turns off the light and she can
see it again. And they turned that into a full
length film and it didn't do so well. And I'm
just wondering if this is going to be the same
sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I guess, well, I guess you will see, so we're
onto our regular news. But it was real hard not
to just segue into another thirty seconds or last by
saying there's gonna be some stuff soon that you won't see,
at least on Max.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah. Actually I made so. There's a full list that
you can read that Warner Brothers Discovery published on their
press release page. And I have a selection of some
of the stuff that's leaving. This is just a sample,
but for example, Frisky Dingo, the adult swim series is

(19:48):
leaving delocated, a different adult swim series is leaving. The
Man from Uncle is gone. Annabel, Annabel Creation, and Annabel
Comes Home are all going. The Avengers, not the Superheroes,
but the nineteen ninety eight film adaptation of the British
TV series is going. But good riddance. It's terrible. It's terrible.

(20:11):
It's a terrible movie. I enjoyed it, okay for everyone
else out there who wants to know. It has a
five percent Rotten Tomato score. Five percent of all critics
gave it a positive review, and ninety five percent said
it was gave it a negative review. Now Ariel is
in that rare group of five percent. Me, I'm with

(20:33):
the majority on this one. I that movie was incomprehensible
and Sean Connery was terrible in it.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, but it gave me such good cosplay fodder to
be Emma m appeal, m appeal.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, because it's it's stands for male appeal.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Ha. I didn't know that, but I like it.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, that's from the original series. You can go back
to the original series, and I mean there's a lot
of like m appeal has a lot of in common
with say, Catwoman from the nineteen sixties Batman series, Speaking
of which the nineteen sixty six Batman film will also
be leaving Later Runner twenty forty nine's leaving Briga Dune

(21:15):
the Conjuring too, only one in the Conjuring series as
far as I could tell, that's leaving ELF. A whole
bunch of DC superhero girls films called like Hero of
the Year, Intergalactic Games, and Legends of Atlantis. Those are
all gone at the end of December. Quick.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I want to I want to interject there because I
saw another article saying these DC ten DC properties are
leaving Max, and it showed all of like the big
like the Snyder verse ones, and I was like, this
is such a click bait. It frustrated me. Now I'm
sad that the superhero girls are leaving, but also we
know that Max is taking a step away from Children's animated,
so it's not a surprise. I hope it finds it's

(21:54):
way somewhere else. Okay, keep on.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, all these yeah, the series that are leaving that
are all DC related ten to be the animated ones,
except for Batman nineteen sixty six, which might as well
be a cartoon. Several Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies are going,
which is sad for horror fans like me. The Haunting,
another great horror movie, Insidias chapter two, just chapter two,

(22:16):
apparently the original ninety five Jumanji film with Robin Williams.
That's going. The lego movie Looney Tunes back in Action.
In fact, there was rumor that all Looney Tunes material
was gonna leave Max, but apparently that has been walked
back a little bit. Some other stuff like Scream, Scream two,

(22:36):
and Scream three are all going. Paddington to the two
thousand and four film adaptation of the Musical, The Phantom
of the Opera, Good Riddance, Trick or Treat, a great
Halloween movie that's going, Warm Bodies, Wonder Woman, Bloodlines is going.
So yeah, it's This is just again, just a kind

(22:58):
of a selection of some of the geek related properties
that are going. It's not all of them by any means.
The list is long, and you know, yes, there's the
need to refresh your library every now and then, and
you can't just continuously pay for larger and larger libraries.
You do occasionally have to shift things out. But of course,

(23:20):
Wonder Brother's Discovery has a pretty bad reputation for dumping properties.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah. Yeah, if they didn't have that bad reputation, I'd
say this is fine. It might even be beneficial to
some of the actors in there. Well, I don't know,
because it depends on when the the sag after contract
still has not been final finalized, voted on by the
actors yet, like it, that's still in the process. I
think that happens this upcoming week, But if that passes,

(23:47):
I don't know how soon those royalty adjustments happen. I do,
at least for most of these properties feel like they
will find their way to other platforms, which which is
good because there's still good movies even if HBO Max
no longer wants that as a part of their library,
and then there's still good aventures. So yes, look, I

(24:10):
also like Van Helsing and I also like Dylan Dog
Dead of Night, So we all know where my dumb
humor button lies.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, it's not all bad news because there's stuff that's
coming to Max and the next story is about something
really exciting coming to Max.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah. So the Miyazaki film Spirited Away had a stage
version that was kind of I think it was like
one of those Fathom event things. You could go to
the movie theater and see it. Possibly. Yes, yes, it
was a very very limited run, and I was very
sad because it didn't get to see it. But it
looks like there's great costuming and puppeteering and just stagecraft.

(24:48):
It's a thing all love about beetle jears, and now
it's coming to Max on December twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Fourth, twenty fourth. I think, yeah, that's really exciting. Like
you said, there's a lot of puppetry involved, and I
saw little clips of this when there was the Fathom
event coming up and was blown away, and I was like,
how I've seen Spirited Away. That is an incredibly ambitious
project to tackle. But everyone who saw it that I've

(25:17):
talked to really thought it was phenomenal. I just haven't
seen it yet, so I'm excited that it's coming to
streaming me too.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I may not get to watch it on Christmas Eve
for Christmas Day because my husband is not as much
of a fan of Miyazaki. He's watched it, but cartoons
are not always his thing, so if they are, well,
this is.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
A lot of this is live stage, it's not a cartoon.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, he might like it better. But I will definitely
watch it this holiday season because it seems like a
lot of fun to do. It makes me so happy.
Thank you Max for that.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yes, not everything you do is terrible, and we're glad
for that.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Nerdicst reported, well, I guess so. A bunch of people
reported that there is a first look at Agatha dark
Hold of dark Hold Diaries, dark Hold of Darkness, Dark
Wing Duck.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Let's Get Dangerous.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yes, Agatha dark Hold Diaries has released kind of a
little behind the scenes look at the upcoming series. I
really appreciate everybody's excitement and buy in, and just like
enthusiasm for this project, I just am not the feeling
enthused for it.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Well, I'm enthused just to see Catherine Hahn do more
stuff because I love her. I think she's she's got
great instincts, She's a great performer, great actor, and so
I'm really excited to see her do more stuff. I
have no idea where they're gonna go with this because
of how they did Wanda Dirty in Doctor Strange and

(26:51):
really Agatha without Wanda doesn't it seems it's kind of
like having a series about Lex Luthor and Superman doesn't exist,
Like what's the point. But uh, I am. I am curious.
This behind the scenes stuff is going to be included
in a Blu ray of WandaVision. I didn't even realize
WandaVision was going to get physical media, but I think

(27:13):
that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm I'm glad for it in case it ever leaves
streaming platforms, because that's one I would buy.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, I'll pick it up because that was I think
that's the high water mark for the Disney plus Marvel
streaming series so far, like Loki comes close, but WandaVision
to me is like that is that is the standard
that should be met every time. And for the record,

(27:43):
like I've liked most of the streaming series, including Shee Hulk,
which I maintain was very good, but I keep reading
people talking about being trash and you're trash. Okay, maybe
you're not trash, but I don't agree with your opinion.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
The episodes were just too short. They ended it weird places,
and I feel like they could have like I get
maybe ending on like a cutaway that's black and you're like,
what what? But I feel like it could have been
executed a little bit better. But that being said, I
thought the performances were lovely and I laughed a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
So we also got a first look at some of
the images from the upcoming television series based on the
Fallout series of games, including a look at the Brotherhood
of Steel characters in their armor and a Vault Dweller
in the Vault Dweller jumpsuit, as well as a picture

(28:38):
of Walter Goggins as a ghoul, and they look very
true to the style of the computer game series, so
at least from an appearance side, it looks like it's
right on track. Now, the question is whether they can
nail the tone, which throughout the Fallout series has been

(29:01):
kind of well, certainly uneven. Like, it's very hard to
reconcile the tone of Fallout games because you will have
moments of just absolute zany wackiness followed by the most
grim of grim stuff, and it's hard to have it
all kind of make a coherent story. So I'm very

(29:22):
curious to see what path the television series takes.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Emma Parnell, who plays Lucy looks
spot on to the characters in the in the video game,
you know, minus the Uncanny Valley as far as I
can tell. And Walter Goggins, who still has one of
the best names I've ever heard, Walton Goggins. Yeah, Walton

(29:48):
Goggins almost looks more normal as the Ghoul than he
does in real life.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, Goggins plays some amazing characters, like he's he's so
he's really good at being bad.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah. Yeah, always a delight. This made me wonder about
the Borderlands movie that has been in production crazy forever.
In theory, it's still happening as of last month.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, we hadn't heard really anything about that for quite
some time. I mean part of that was because of
the strikes, but still.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, yeah, last month there was an article saying, hey,
it's still in the works with the reshoots that have
been fun and all because with the cast like that,
you don't just throw it away unless you're certain.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Unless you're Warner Brothers Discovery.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I wouldn't gonna look. I would still happily work for them.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
So uh, yeah, it's just maybe your work would never
be seen.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know. That's yeah, it's possible, but it might also
be seen. So we'll never know, Well we won't. We
might know. I'm not gonna say we'll never know. We'll
probably know at some point, but not today. Next year,
for Christmas, we're getting something a little bit darker than
Spirited Away. We're getting a new version of Nosparatu.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah uh, and this is this has been known for
a while, but I somehow, if I had seen this news,
I had forgotten it, so I did not realize that
there was another there was a new adaptation in nos
Faratu in the works, and that it was coming out
next year. And the cast list tickles me. You got

(31:30):
you got like Nicholas Holt, it is going to be
cast in nos Faratu. I think that's funny because he
was just in Renfield, which is clearly so Nosparatu is
a ripoff of Dracula. It's always been a ripoff of Dracula.
The vampire in Nosperrato is called Count Orlock, but it's
essentially if you watch the original Nosferatu, it's it's an

(31:52):
adaptation of Dracula. Then. So, but then you've got like
Nicholas Holt, who was Renfield in Rinfield, which was obviously
another like inspiration from Dracula. And also Willem Dafoe, whom
I mentioned we were going to talk about again. He's
gonna be in nos Faratu. And the thing that's funny
about that is twenty years ago he was in a

(32:13):
movie called Shadow of the Vampire. And when he was
in Shadow of the Vampire, he played the character of
Max Shrek. That's the actor who originally played Nosferatu in
the black and white film. So it's just funny that
he's also in this.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah. Yeah, Also people who are in it are Bill
scars Guard and Aaron Taylor Johnson, who I love Aaron
Taylor Johnson. He's a great actor.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, And scars Guard is actually playing Orlock, which because
when I saw Willem Dafoe was in I'm like, oh
my gosh, are they gonna have Willem Dafoe playing Orlock?
Because that would be hilarious that he played the actor
who was Orlock twenty years ago and now he gets
a chance to play the character. No such luck, So
I have no idea who he's playing.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
So I understand stand that Bill Scarsguard looks like a
very GQ model version of Steve Buscemi, but I think
just base level, Bill Scarsguard is too attractive to play
a Nosparatu because they're ugly vampires. That's that's their whole thing.

(33:19):
And I feel like if he makes his ugly face,
it's going to be Bill Scarsguard as penny Wise as Nosferatu.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Uh where his eyes aren't pointing in the same direction and.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, and he's drooling with his pointy lip and.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
There's gonna be a lot of prosthetics.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, there would have to be. Look, I'm excited
for this. We all know I like classic monster stuff.
I'm less excited to watch it on Christmas Day, but
I will watch it.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, yeah, I'm well, you know what Christmas it's a
time for scary ghost stories. According to you know that song,
so scary ghost stories and tells the glories of Christmases
long long ago.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
So so is count Orlock then going to find the
true Christmas spirit and buy everybody a roast goose?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I sure hope. So if they if they combined Nosparatu
with the Christmas Carol, I'll be really happy.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
That would be that would be a delight. I would
watch that on Christmas.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
H h.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
The next thing is also like super a delight, which
is we're getting a new Karate Kid movie. And they
had an open casting call for the new Karate Kid,
which is just really cool. Ralph Macchio and Jackie Chan
made a video and said hey, if you're if you
fit what we're looking for, send in, and they got

(34:39):
like ten thousand submissions very quickly.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. Super cool. Yeah. So Jackie Chan of course was
in the most recent version of Karate Kid, and Ralph
Machio was the original Karate Kid and then went on
to be in Cobra Kai as well, So it's really
exciting to see them both involved in this new one,
and of course now that we're getting a new Karate
Kid as well, it's not going to be was it

(35:03):
Jade Smith as the last one? So I'm really I'm
really curious to see how this project continues, because I
really I have a soft spot in my heart for
the Karate Kid franchise. I really have a soft spot
for the first two because I was young when both
of those movies came out and very much liked them

(35:25):
when I was a kid, So I look forward to
seeing what the next story will be.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
It makes me surprised that you haven't finished Cobra Kai.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Honestly, Yeah, I never I don't think I've even watched
a full episode of it. I've seen clips of Cobra
Kai like I've seen like compilation clips of different things
in it, but I have not actually watched a full episode.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I like it, even though at very many times during
the series I was infuriated at the dumbness of both
the adults and kids. I still really in the series.
Back to the casting call, I am also excited because
for the new Karate Kid, they're looking for someone who's
Chinese or partially Chinese to play the role, and I
think that's also a good choice.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
So yeah, and that they're looking for preferably someone who
can speak English and Mandarin. Although that's that's kind of
a like ideal situation sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, and also someone who is fifteen to seventeen, because
I think Ralph Macchio was older when he played the
Karate Kid.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah. I think he was approximately fifty three when he
was the Karate Kid.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
No, that's how old he is now. I'm sure. Funny
thing Tony told me. I didn't realize this. Terry Silvers,
which is in the Third Movie, which you didn't like
as much. I think he's a third movie, was younger
than Ralph Macchio. Is younger than Ralph Macchio very old.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, yeah, it blows my mind, but it's fun trivia.
We also this week got the first trailer for Furioso,
which is a spin off of the most recent Mad
Max movie.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Mm hmm with Anya Taylor Joy.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Who you love?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yes, my girlfriend Madia Taylor Joy is in the movie.
I'm jealous.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Also it happen my girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Or you wanted to be Ania Taylor Joy's girlfriend? Okay, yeah,
no that.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I want to be Ania Taylor Joy period.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh. I like.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I like being me anyhow. The thing that surprised me
because apparently I either have a very short memory or
haven't been paying enough attention. Is that Chris Hemsworth isn't it?
And he's playing what looks to be like a bargain
Bin version of Thor.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah. I liked it because like, he wasn't I mean,
I'm bad at recognizing people anyway, but he wasn't immediately
recognizable to me. And I saw saw him in the trailer,
and before it got to the point where I had
his credit title show up on screen, I was like,
is that Chris Hemsworth?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
When I first saw him, I was like, is that
cri Chris Hemsworth? And then he talked him like, surely
it can't be, but who the heck is that? But
it is Chris Hemsworth. Yeah, I like that's he's going
outside of his normal Marvel stick, which of course you would,
but in the movie his character wears like a ratty yellow,

(38:34):
ratty red cape, which just reminds me of a very
like toxic Wasteland version of four.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah. He also he also rides a chariot pulled by
a motorcycle, which is incredibly cool. Like when I saw
that that design of a vehicle, I'm like, man, I
love the vehicles in Mad Max. There's someone my favorite
like like film design things. Also, the cinematography that was

(39:06):
on display in that trailer was phenomenal. Didn't get a
whole lot from Anya Taylor Joy apart from looking like
a badass. We didn't get a whole lot of lines
from her, so it's kind of hard to to target
where her performance is here. I'm just glad we're finally
going to get this because I remember seeing interviews of

(39:27):
her a couple of years ago where she was talking
about the filming and so it's been a while since
the filming on this picture wrapped. But yeah, I'm really
looking forward to it. I very much enjoyed Fury Road,
and this looks like it's going to be another Like
it's probably gonna be another two hour chase scene. But

(39:47):
I'm okay with it because Fiury Road was so good.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, I feel the same way. I didn't expect to
like Fury Road as much as I did because I'm like,
it's a giant chase scene. Normally I don't like just
even though I like car stunts, I don't like movies
that are just one giant chase. Yeah, I find them
kind of they make me a little anxious. And also
it's it's one stick throughout the whole movie.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, they make me bored because, like I think of
like the the the pod racing scene in the first
Star Wars movie, and I almost fell asleep in it,
and then when they released it on home video, they
actually made it longer, Like are you kidding me? This
is too much.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I feel like that movie was made for kids though,
and not for you at the age you were when
it came out.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, no, I won't. I won't go on my Star
Wars rant.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, we don't have time for that today. I Yeah,
I really like Mad Max, I really liked Freery Broad.
I'm looking forward to this even though Anya Taylor Joy,
as bad ass as she is, doesn't look like Charlie's.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Therein to me.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
But you know, the Wastelands can do a lot to
a person, so I'll take Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, I mean, well, let me put it to you
this way. If the Wastelands, if the if the Ravages
of the Waste langs and turned an Anya Taylor Joy
into a short, at least they're on They're not that bad, right, right?
Go for one one gorgeous young woman into another gorgeous,
slightly older woman is okay.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I agree, Maybe maybe we all need a little wasteland.
That's not true. The other thing I'll say is, like,
I'm you and I have both kind of talked about
prequels and how much do we actually need them before?
But her character, like was a cool character, and we
learned very little about her. So I think this prequel
is okay as opposed to the next prequel we're about
to talk about, which is the prequel to Ted. You

(41:37):
know that horrible Seth MacFarlane movie about a talking teddy
bear that everybody can hear.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, we got a We got a trailer for a
prequel series that'll run on Peacock. It is also, of
course called Ted and Ariel, I want to ask you
an important so did you watch the trailer?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Okay, how many times did you laugh?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Zero? Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Hey, you laughed just as many times as I did.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I you know, and sometimes I like Seth MacFarlane and
I loved the Orville. This property is just not for me.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, same here, Like it's just it just comes across
as obnoxious and mean spirited, but not in a funny way.
Like it's just Yeah, I don't know, I do not
get the appeal at all, Like there's the gimmick. I
get the gimmick. The gimmick Teddy Bear comes to life
turns out to be a foul mouthed, pot smoking, sexist

(42:41):
lowlife just like the guy who's his best friend?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Isn't that a funny concept? The problem is that's it.
That's all I see. Like, I don't see anything beyond
this concept, which I don't necessarily find that funny to
begin with, because I've seen other movies like Meet the Feebles,
where you you take the concept of like the characters
like puppet characters or Avenue Q if you want to
talk about stage version, these characters that would normally be

(43:09):
geared towards kids being actually terrible characters or whatever. I've
seen it before, and I've seen it done better. So
this did not appeal to me, even in the slightest.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, especially like I could even maybe understand if they're
like this shows how the main character got to be
that foul mouth, you know, sarcastic, poor minded person, But
it doesn't do that. And even Scott Grimes, who plays
the data in it, who I love from the Orville
and He was even in my very favorite Christmas movie

(43:41):
of all time way back in the day, The Night
They Saved Christmas. He played one of the kids. He
couldn't even save this trailer for me.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, I yeah, this was a total miss for me
as well. Maybe folks who are big fans of Ted
the film, no shade on you. If you like that,
that's awesome. It's just your taste is different from Mars.
That's totally cool. Different tastes are great. Maybe you will
find the series trailer to be knee slappingly hilarious, But

(44:11):
for me, it was just like, I do not I'm
not gonna hate watch this. I did that for Velma,
I'm not gonna do it for this. Am I am good?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, the next trailer you're gonna have to talk about
because I you added it and I didn't get to
watch it before.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Oh okay, So this is This is a series that
Bruce Campbell is hosting. It's called Discontinued and according to
the trailer by Bruce Campbell. By the way, this is
not a fictional like narrative based series from what I
can tell, but it does have a premise, and that premise,
apparently is that the year is twenty thirty seven, and

(44:50):
it's a dystopian future and everybody is kind of locked away,
and for some reason, Bruce Campbell has to talk about
different stuff that has been discontinued, and like, I'm talking
about real stuff in the real world, So like there
would be an episode that would go into an actual
thing that is no longer really a thing. So like

(45:12):
VHS tapes could be an example, right, because those have
been discontinued. No one is making new VHS tapes. The
last company to do that stopped a couple of years ago.
So that could be an episode to talk about the history,
evolution and then the discontinuation of the VHS tape. That
would be an episode. But not just that. It's things

(45:33):
like television series or various specific products. That kind of
thing so very weird that they have it set in
this premise, set in a dystopian future. But I dig
the idea.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, yeah, me too. I do dig that idea, and
I will look forward to watching the trailer when we
get off of this episode. And that is it. Jonathan,
If our dear friends want to talk to us about
any of the things that they've talked about that we've

(46:07):
talked about today, or that they've talked about. Really, they
could just share their day with us too. How do
they reach a slash you?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
That's pretty simple. So tonight, when you go to bed,
that beloved stuffed animal that you've had forever and ever
is going to make its way right up to you
and start talking with you, and you're going to reminisce
about all the great times you had together. But over
the course of the conversation you're going to discover this

(46:36):
stuffed animal is a pretty terrible person. But it's still
the stuffed animal that you loved as a kid, So
you can't just throw it out. I mean, this is
this stuffed animals stuck with you, thick and thin, So
you're gonna have to just sort of endure its company,
and day after day, the stuffed animal is going to

(46:58):
be walking around with you and calm on your life
and occasionally embarrassing you to terrible degrees, apparently not realizing
that it's doing that. But it's gonna be making you
feel like crap in front of people you love. By
the same time, it's gonna be like, oh, I'm sorry,
I didn't know, And you're gonna have to forgive it.

(47:20):
That's gonna go on for about three months until you
have reached a point where you can just no longer
even stand to look at this thing, because that's how
angry it makes you. And you're going to be trying
to go to sleep, and it's going to be talking
to you about some terrible thing that you did when
you were five years old, and it's the sort of
thing that would keep you up if you just like

(47:41):
you're about to drift off and it suddenly pops into
your head and you just feel ashamed and angry at
yourself all over again. He's gonna really start twisting the
knife on that. You're just gonna turn to your stuffed
animal and you're just gonna start ripping it apart, like
you're gonna tear its head off, and it will be
screaming the whole time. It will be screaming the entire
time you'll be ripping its arms and legs off. And

(48:03):
then when it's laying there in pieces next to your bed,
the head will look and say, Jonathan wants to know
what your question is. You can ask it and then
I'll hear and I'll send you an email and.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
If you've man, we really need to get you to
write some more mashups because these are getting dark. If
you've given your stuffed animals therapy or just sent them
to the Island of Misfit Toys and so you can't
or won't do that. You can also reach out to
us on social media on threads, Discord, Facebook, Instagram, We're
a large Nerdron Collider. On Twitter we are llenc Underscore Podcast.

(48:40):
I still don't remember the handle on Blue Sky, but
I'm not on there much right now, And if you
want to send us an email, it is LLENC or
large No sorry ha, it is Large Nerdron Pod at
gmail dot com. We really do love hearing from you.
Thanks to everybody who's who piped in about dotor who

(49:01):
on the discord this week. We love those conversations. You
all super super wrong and in the happy beginning of
December until next time, I have been Aeriel uh mist Caston.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
And I have been Jonathan. I'm on vacation Strickland, Fuck
you Dock. The Large Nordron Collider was created by Ariel
Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again. Curse
That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod of incomptech

(49:46):
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