May the Fifth Be With You

We recorded this on May the Third while talking about May the Fourth but Jonathan didn't get it edited until May the Fifth. So here it is, with our reflections on interacting with actors in character and how awkward it can be!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to The Large Ner Drunk Collider. The podcast.
It's all about the geeky things happening in the world
around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel cast In. I just had a slight brinklich
in the beginning of that, and with me, as always
is my wonderful friend and co host Jonathan Stream.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I ate cash shoes. Just before going on microphone, I
have made a mistake.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh do you need a cough?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Not yet, but I mean it's just a matter of time.
You know that thing where you eat. You'll eat something
like that and you'll get like a crumb stuck in
the back of your throat, and then suddenly it's like
it's always at a moment when you absolutely should not cough,
and so you try to hold it back. But this
just makes it worse. That's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I drank water before you hit record, and so now
I need to burp. But that's okay. I also apparently
have so I go somatic sympathy throat crumbs.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Because now you want to add that. Now I'm like, well,
I mean, if you do want to burp, just go ahead,
because I already have to edit a show that's done
by a friend of the show, Shay Lee. And let
me tell you about about fifteen percent of every recording
she sends me are burps.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I love Shae, and I don't very much stand that.
She don't understand that, like.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
She says, she says that she gets a little nervous
when she's delivering on the microphone, and she drinks water
too to keep her voice going, and the combination of
the two means that like I'll be in the middle
of a section, I'm like, Wow, she's really on a roll.
This is a really good and then to be bad
and then she's like, ah, beep, and then she'll redo it.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I always know when a burp. This is just a
me thing. This is no shade to shay I always
know when a burp is coming. I would pause it
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think, uh, yeah, it's it's fun. Like we haven't
ever worked on things like her putting the recording on pause.
She just she just you know, keeps Yeah. The recording
just goes the whole way like it might be. It
might be a thirty minute episode, but a fifty minute
long recording because when you have all the pickups and everything.

(02:20):
It just it stretches into that much. And she's a
perfectionist too, So if she has a bit where maybe
she thinks something was a little mushmouthed, or she felt
that the pacing was a little wrong, she will do
another take of that segment, and she'll also go back
even further so that she has the right tone right,

(02:41):
instead of just picking up right where you messed up,
which some people that's how they do it. I've got
coworkers who in the middle of a word will stumble
and they'll just pick up at the beginning of the word.
She likes to go back so that it's tonally consistent
for that whole section, so that it's delivering the mood
and feeling that she wants, which is really admirable. It

(03:01):
does make editing a bit more work, but then you
could argue it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I mean, I get it too. I usually when I'm
editing my own because I do get that way. If
I'm doing like an audiobook audition or a voiceover audition
or whatever for you, I just you know, if I
end up sounding like I've done a whole bunch of
mess ups and you're having to piece words together. I apologize,
but I yeah, but I do. I will go back

(03:29):
and I'll do multiple takes and I just leave a
really long space so I know where I messed up. Yeah,
because I don't. I don't like finding the beeps.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I get it. Yeah, for me, like beep is just
how I've just gotten trained. Like I can even sometimes
tell what word Shase says based upon the shape of
the waveform because I've gotten so used to editing. I'm like, oh,
this is gonna be you know well, or something like that.
I can tell just by the shape of the waveform.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
That's really cool.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
It's kind of fun. But it's all really useful when
you're editing, because sometimes it's not just one like goof, right,
Sometimes you make a goof, and then when you're doing
the retake, you make a goof and maybe it's in
a different place. Being able to recognize the words just
based on the waveform makes editing so much faster because
you can be like, oh, I need to skip ahead
a couple of takes. Because again, she she just goes

(04:22):
all the way through. She doesn't like if a take
doesn't work out, it's not like she goes back. In
the actual audio file, you know it just it's part
of the long audio file. Now, this is again not
to cast shade on shade. This is a perfectly promulent
way to record. She does a really good job, so
shay when you do listen to this, this is not

(04:42):
a criticism, Okay. And she's probably about five or six
episodes behind, so it'll be like two months and she's
gonna be like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, why are
you apologizing? If?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
If, if it makes you feel better when you listen
to this. When I I'll get like a twenty second
voiceover audition, I'll be like, this will take me ten
minutes right once I work it. You always work an
audition before you record it. If you have the luxury
of time to do that. Sometimes you get very fast
turnarounds and you just have to like site read, get

(05:13):
context clues and go. But it'll take me like four
hours to record that. So I have no place to
judge anybody.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, and for those curious about the show we're talking
about in this case, the podcast is called Coddywomple with
the Shadow People, which I think we've talked about on
the previous episodes. It's a narrative podcast set in a
weird kind of fantasy world based upon around turn of

(05:45):
the century, and I'm talking twentieth century Appalachia, and so
really neat, very atmospheric, very very much set in time
and place, even though that time isn't well defined. And yeah,
check it out if you're into kind of sort of
fairy tail ish spooky stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Also, we have
a lot of fun things to talk about. So among
the things that we have watched and listened to this week, Jonathan,
you're giving me a look. Did I move on too quickly? No?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I thought you were skipping what we were we had
watched this week. That's why I was giving you a look.
And then you brought it back around and I realized
I was being premature with my looks.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh no, it's okay. Look you guys. We basically talked
a whole conversation that could have been a whole podcast
on its own before we hit record about other non
like less geeky, not really geeky things, just annoying things
that we have to spend our time on. We'll spare
you that. But we did do some fun stuff this week.

(06:49):
I started watching dragon ball Z Kai maybe Dragon Ball Z. No, yeah,
dragon Ball Z Kai.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah. So had you ever watched any other version of
Dragon Ball Z at all?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like I have seen small little clips of it. I
had never watched this series before I was familiar enough
with it. I had seen enough clips of it. I
think Kai is like the retelling or remastering of the
story once Goku is an adult.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Oh okay, so well, I know that there are a
few anime series that have done things where it's been
like kind of a a retelling of stories, Like I
know that Full Metal Alchemists did that right, like they
had a secondary series come out that was essentially a
retelling of the original series. But what are you thinking

(07:49):
about it so far? What's your take?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
So it's actually a recut version of the SQL series
dragon Ball Z because Dragon Ball is the original series.
Dragon Ball Z is the sequel when Goku's an adult.
Dragon a Kai is a recut of it, which has
like a new song and like a new like the
intro sequence you can tell is new because it's so
much prettier. I am really torn one the animation styles

(08:17):
all over the place, which I get is a stylistic thing,
but sometimes it throws me. Some of the cartoon is like,
there's one character that is very much like an ethnicity
stereotype that I do not think is okay, gotcha, h

(08:38):
And it's not like it's being as far as I've
seen the one character, and apparently it shows up less
and less throughout the series. It's not being played poorly,
but it's very much like cart Like the cartoon drawing
of this character is not what I consider okay. It's weird.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
It is.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Some of it is very funny, and I know that
they know it's funny, like some of the some of
the jokes they make like they know are funny, and
a lot of it's just weird. But I'm kind of
hate watching is not the right word.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
We'll talk about that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Because I don't hate it, like it's a morbid curiosity watch.
I'm like, what in the It's just so bizarre that
it keeps my attention. I'm also rewatching Fallout. I think
I told you guys that because my husband and I

(09:40):
watched it, and then our friend group that does the
group watch decided that three two one Go and everybody
Press Start on the Amazon show at the same time.
Worked well enough since Amazon stopped their group watch or
the second episode in on our second watch through. There's
a lot of setup they do in the show that
you don't catch the first time around. You won't catch

(10:01):
the funny comments until you've already seen it and you
know where it's going, and then you watch back and
that comment's very funny. Also, there are moments that are,
like I enjoyed the first time through, the second time through,
I'm laughing my butt off, like unexpectedly laughing my butt
off because the delivery is so much better the second
time through.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, I remember when I watched the first episode, actually
the first two episodes, that I felt that there wasn't
quite enough humor in it to be a fallout series,
and that that slowly improved over time. But maybe, as
you say, part of that was my lack of perspective,
and that if upon a second watch, I would appreciate
it more.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So cut out for about thirty seconds. If you haven't
seen the show and you don't want spoilers, I'll mention
two things to you, Jonathan, because anybody else who hasn't
rewatched it but has watched it will enjoy this. In
the second episode, when she goes into the shop in Philly,
and the shopkeeper mistakes her for like a trade in,
and she as, you know, you're in good shape. You
got all ten fingers. That's much funnier this time around. Sure,

(11:07):
And then when the scientist says you have to cut
my head off. The first time it was disturbing. The
second time through the melodrama in it is just hilarious
because I know what you expect, So I'm no longer
worrying about it.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
There's still some big questions I have about the enclave,
which I hope will be visited in season two.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I'm sure. I'm sure. Anyhow, that's mainly what I've watched.
It's been a busy, busy week, you know, working on
a bunch of other fun stuff like auditions and shows
and things like that.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Sha, So it's been a pretty busy week for me too.
I did, against my better judgment, watch only the first episode,
but the first episode of Velma season two. Y'all know,
I watched all of the first season and hated myself
and the series the entire time. So I watched the

(12:07):
first episode of season two. I will say I feel
like it has eased off a little bit on the
things that I hated about it, but not enough to
make me want to continue with the show. Like they're
still making very obvious jokes, very obvious meta commentary, but

(12:31):
not at the frequency that I think the first season did.
So I use this example all the time, where it's
a in my view as sin, a storytelling sin to
dwell too long on a joke or to call real
attention to a joke, because joke either works or it doesn't.

(12:54):
It doesn't magically work if you just draw more attention
to it. That does only nothing.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
It only does that if you're fluliborg I, just.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Like the example I always give is in Robin Hood
Men in Tights, where there's the joke about the reference
to Blazing Saddles, and then after the joke is made,
a character says, what you've never seen blazing Saddles, Like
he's calling out the reference, and like, who's that for?
Because if you know the reference, you've got the joke.

(13:26):
If you don't know the reference, then telling you that
it's a reference doesn't make it funny. It doesn't work
in either case. Velma Season two has some jokes that
feel like that to me, except it's all again meta commentary.
Some of the jokes make no sense, like it's you know,
they're like, I'm just as likely to do that as
a blah blah blah. And you sit there and think

(13:46):
about and like, blah blah blah, doesn't that doesn't even
make sense. It doesn't apply to the situation at all.
You're just saying it because here's something that listener or
viewers will recognize as a reference, but it doesn't have relevance.
And I'm like, you gotta make it relevant for it
to be a joke, otherwise what are you doing? So, yeah,

(14:08):
I watched. I watched the one episode they're leaning more
heavily into mystery elements and and it didn't really do
much for me. So I don't I who knows, but
I don't think I'm gonna go and watch a second episode.
The other thing I did this week that was kind
of geeky for kind of a subset of geeks is

(14:32):
last night. First of all, it's amazing I still have
a voice, But last night I went to a me
first in the Gimmy Gimme's concert. So for any of
y'all who don't know me first, and the Gimmy Gimmes
is a supergroup. It's made up of members of other
bands and they play covers. All they do are covers,
and they do them in a kind of a punk

(14:55):
power pop style. So things like they did a cover
of Joe Lene by Dolly Parton. They did a cover
of Country Roads by John Denver. They did a cover
of Don't Cry for Me Argentina. You know, they did
a cover of rocket Man. They did all these great covers.
And I've been following their music for a couple of

(15:17):
decades now. I've never seen him live. And the really
fun thing is that it's not just a music show
when you go see them perform. They put on a
kind of theatrical performance where there's a drama that plays
out as you're watching, because the lead singer ends up

(15:40):
having a feud with other members of his band, where
he'll do things like turns to the bass player and like,
could you tell the drummer to stop rushing. We're not
talking anymore, so I need you to tell the drummer
that he needs to stop rushing his intros and playing
over my introductions of these songs. I love that actually
got to a point where it says he turns to

(16:02):
the rhythm guitarist and says, could you tell the audience
that they're not holding up there into the bargain. So
it's like the lead singer is in a fight with
everybody and it's all an act. It's all all done
for fun. But like if you paid attention to what
the different members of the band were doing in between songs,
like everyone's doing little things, that plays into this ongoing

(16:25):
feud that's going on. That's nice. And then of course
every song he would introduce by saying, this next song
is a cover. I mean, they're all covers. So anyway,
I guess long story short is, if you get a
chance to see Me First in the Gimmy Gimmeys Live
and you like power pop slash punk styles and you

(16:46):
love cover songs, go check them out. They are incredibly entertaining.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I love Me First in the Gimmi Gimmis. I'm sad
I didn't get to go. I'm delighted you did, and
I'm delighted it was a great show, because you know,
some artists are so produced that when you go see
a live show, it just doesn't quite hold up to
the studio production. And that's that's not me judging a
live show is a very different creature. It's like doing

(17:12):
a stage like acting on stage versus acting in film,
and one you have to do it over and over
till you get it perfect, and the other you have
to do it right the first time. We're just move on,
you know. I certainly have yet to play a one
hundred percent perfect show as a musician. But yeah, I'm
glad to hear that they hold up.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, fantastic. I have other things to say about the
one of the other bands that appeared on that bill,
but I'll tell you after the show, because this is
a place for positivity.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That sounds good. So somebody I know is like super
positive all the time, well not all the time, like
seventy five percent of the time, and that person is Mario.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
So you're teeing me up.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'm teeing you up again. I couldn't tell if you
were frozen or if you're just giving me.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
A look, not giving you a look. We're going straight
into thirty seconds or less, and this was Ariel's way
of reminding me that I'm going first, because just before
we started recording, we made a last minute lineup change.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, there was there was a rumor about a Kingdom
Hearts thing that. But there's not enough there, right, It's
all like, well, this person thinks that this lines up
with this and that and that and so well now
I've spent thirty seconds on anyhow, but whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
But the important thing is that we didn't want to
go through and present it as if it's a news
item when really it's just a bunch of you know, speculation.
And maybe next week we'll have more information and it
will be thirty seconds or less, But today's first thirty
seconds or less is and I'm going to start the
music now. Universal Studios unveiled some new details about the

(18:55):
Mario theme Land and the upcoming Epic Universe Park. They
include a ride based off Mario Kart, an experience called
Yoshi's Adventure modeled after a similar ride in Japan, an
entire section inspired by Donkey Kong Country, including a ride
called mind Kart Madness, and more. The concept video looks
really cool, so here's hoping the real thing lives up
to the hype.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I agree, I've only heard good stuff from the Japan thing.
Words they work, but sadly movie release dates don't always
so Craven the Hunter, that movie that we have all
been looking forward to since the release of Morvius and
the re release of Morbus and the re re release

(19:36):
of Morbus.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And also Madam Web.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
And Madam Web has changed dates. It was originally going
to come out over Labor Day weekend, and now it's
coming out on December thirteenth. I take umbrage with that
because the movie that was going to come out on
December thirteenth was Cobra Kai and that has been moved
to May of twenty twenty five. I have no issue
with the Cobra Kai movie, really working to make sure

(19:59):
they put out a really great story. But I I
like to see like a movie that's just come out
on my birthday, and Craven the Hunter is not one
of those.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, you've already made see two Hobbit movies on your birthday.
Didn't make you see the third, sir, No, But that's
like six hours of my life I'm never getting back. Okay, sorry, No,
that's fine. Have you been waiting for another go at
a live action adaptation of he Man and the Masters
of the Universe. We'll hold on to your Lloyd cloths

(20:31):
because Amazon, MGM Studios and Mattel Films are planning just
such a thing for the summer of twenty twenty six.
The story reportedly revolves around young Prince Adam being stranded
on Earth for ten years before returning to Tournia to
battle the evil Skeletor. The writer of Kubo and the
Two Strings, Chris Butler, is penning the script, which is banana, y'all.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, but just one, just one banana, Just one banana,
Just one banana. Have you ever asked yourself why is
Paul Rudd not in more musical movies? Well, don't worry
now he is. Paul Rudd and Nick Jonas are going
to be in a new musical comedy called power Ballad.

(21:15):
All we know is it's an uplifting, music driven story
about a wedding singer and a rock star that are
divided by a song. Interestingly, the person who is doing
it is John Carney, who has done a bunch of
other stuff, but I know him most from the movie Once,
which I wouldn't call it comedy. That was kind of

(21:37):
a sad story, but it had brilliant music.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
So yeah. One of my favorite songs from any musical
is from Once, and it's called Gold And if you
haven't heard it, go check it out. It's so it's
such a dramatic moment in this well, in the stage
musical in particular. The movie musical is also fantastic, by
the way, but the stage musical that particular song has

(22:00):
like just a it's one of those moments where if
music means anything to you, it really is gonna hit hard. Yeah,
sorry for thirty seconds or less, fans off there, Okay,
here we go, Like okay. Chris Simsworth feels that maybe,
just maybe he might have got a little too broad
and goofy with Thor and Thor Love and Thunder. He

(22:21):
told this to Vanity Fair while he was promoting the
film for Furiosa, in which he appears as a dude
who drives a chariot pulled by motorcycles. So you know,
he's the model of restraint today. Anyway, he said he
felt like the other Marvel actors got cooler stuff to say,
a statement that RDJ later refuted. It say that Thor
was always the coolest. So there's a lot of like

(22:42):
envy going on among the avengers.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I mean, we all know that the gods envy each other.
If you're in any multi god pantheon.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's true. This is true.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Have you ever said, man, I love evonline, but I
wish they were more spreadsheets and quick books. Well, now
you've got another video game that you can play on
office software. Someone has created a Fallout inspired game and Excel.
You can play it at work. You can do mapping,
and you can fight people characters that you encounter along

(23:16):
the way. The creator, oh my gosh, what's his name?
I gotta do this fast hahu shoot Dynamic Pair has
a tutorial on his website about how to play it.
Links will be on our website www. Dot lodge and
or drun colletter dot com.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
If you want to check it out, Remind me to
circle back to that after thirty seconds or less. Here
we go. Comics writer Jason Aaron is launching a news
series about your favorite heroes and a halfshell, the Teenage
Mutan Ninja Turtles. The plan is for the series to
return to the roots of the original comic, which means
a series that's a bit darker and grittier than most
recent versions of the Four Turtles. The original TMNT served

(23:56):
as a kind of sad tire of street level superheroes
like Daredevil, so this definitely has my attention. The comic
launches this July.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Getting large holiday lawn ornaments is not just relegated to
the calendar holidays like the normal ones, like the pre
movie ones. Now it is also for May the fourth.
You know, everybody has made the fourth deals for Star Wars,
but now Home Depot is releasing a seven foot tall

(24:30):
Darth Vader figurine with sounds and lights, and he also
comes with accessories like a death star pumpkin and a
silver ornament. Maybe also a death star for Halloween and Christmas,
so you can keep him out all year long and
just dress him up for the different holidays. I kind
of prefer this over like the ten foot tall skeletons
that stay out all year round. His price points pretty

(24:52):
decent for this kind of thing too. It's three hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
How do you get him home? I guess if.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
You're on the website and they ship him to you.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Okay, I was gonna say, if you've got a car
with a sun roof, I guess, but.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, so I'm sure. Also like he probably disassembles at
the waist and plugs in. But yeah, it goes on
tail on May fourth on the hun Deep website, which
is where you can get it.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, well, if you're like me, you often will sneak
a peek at a film's Rotten Tomatoes score before deciding
if you're gonna take the time to venture out to
the cinema to catch a flick. Google has changed how
it displays those scores when you search film titles, so
instead of showing you the critics scores, which are often
a bit more harsh, general search results will show you
the audience score for that movie. So if you trust

(25:39):
audiences more than critics, good news. But if you're like me,
then I will not see you in the theaters.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
You you trust critics more than.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Audiences, abso frekinlutely I do. Oh my gosh, there are movies.
There are movies where I'm like looking at the critics responses,
and remember, like a who's scoring Rotten Tomatoes doesn't mean
that it's the worst movie ever made. It means that
more critics gave it a negative review than a positive review.
So while like a fifteen percent scorer might seem like, oh,

(26:11):
this has got to be the worst movie ever, or
it's definitely worse than this movie that's got a forty
percent score, that's not necessarily true. It's probably true, but
not necessarily true. But I tend to side with critics.
When the audience scores like eighty five percent and the
critics scores like thirty five percent, I'm usually closer to
the thirty five than the eighty five.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Interesting, I'm usually closer to the eighty five. But we
know that based on the fact that I owned Dylan Dogg,
Dead of Night and Van Helsing. Anyhow, Jonathan's movie choices
are sometimes questionable because he likes this movie called Mandy
that directed He's Gonna Kill Me by Panna's cosmic post

(26:52):
about this, who is now doing an eighties vampire movie
starring Kristen Steer and Oscar Isaac, who play a married
couple who ventured down out of their penthouse and then
get sucked into a world of like drugs and intrigue
and sexiness. It's such an interesting cast for an interesting
director for you know, I guess what is the renaissance

(27:15):
of vampire movies? Not that they've ever gone away, but
we've gotten a lot of them in the past couple
of years.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, that Christen Stewart, she's really going someplace. I'm glad
she's branching out to doing vampire movies. Now. I love Mandy.
I love the Barry Manilo song Mandy. I love the
film Mandy. I love our friend Mandy.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I love our friend Mandy, and I like the Barry
Manilo song too. I've actually never seen the movie, understandably.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I love our friend, who's Renaissance Festival character was
called Mandy. No so Mandy. Yeah, very weird movie, visually
stunning film. So it I mean it really looks like
kind of like eighties metal album covers, and like I said,

(28:04):
heavy metal album covers, there's a lot of imagery that
kind of falls into that. I think Mandy is a
truly Bonker's amazing horror slash thriller film, and it is
filled with magical realism and very strange and I think

(28:25):
it's great. So I'm definitely looking forward to seeing an
eighties vampire movie from the same director. It's got my attention.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
If it's not so Mandy's super gory.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Right, there's definitely gore in it. I mean it's I
wouldn't call it super gory, but then you also, we
were just talking about Fallout.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
So yeah, I didn't think Fallout was super gory. But
I saw the trailer for Mandy when I watched Nick
Cage's Color Out of Space, and that looked like it
would be too much for me.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
There's definitely violence in Mandy, a lot of it, and
I mean there's a chainsaw fight in Mandy. It's amazing.
I if you're not into violence, I wouldn't. I don't know.
I don't go super I don't think it's super gory.
But then I also watch a lot of stuff that
does have a lot of gore in it, Like I
watch a lot of zombie movies, and those have lots

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of gore in them.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
It is interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I think.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I think it depends on the story and the application,
you know. Like I said, Fallout has some very gory
more moments, but overall it didn't feel like every moment
was gory to me.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Dirty yes, well, and and I don't know that it
would be your cup of tea like the Mandy. It's
it's a really interesting movie. It's not like it I
wouldn't call it an actor's film. It's not like it's
not like you're gonna get anything from it from like
necessarily an actors standpoint, but from cinematography, director kind of

(29:58):
choices that sort of stuf. I think it's fascinating and
the performances are good, but a lot of the performances
are really more free of dialogue, so it's more like
how characters hold themselves and the look on their face
and that sort of stuff. Nick Cage does have a

(30:19):
total freak out moment, which is understandable if you know
what the movie's about. But there's a total freak out
moment in a bathroom where he really goes full Nick Cage.
But yeah, I don't know. I really like that movie.
I've only seen it all the way through once because

(30:39):
it's also the kind of movie where you can really
appreciate it and not necessarily revisit it. Not to say
that I will never go back and watch it again.
I probably will, but it's not something that like I
get an itch and think, oh, I need to watch
Mandy again.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah. I mean I felt that way about the first
Cloverfield movie. I have seen it more than once because
we showed it to other people, but it was one
of those ones where like, this is really good, but
it also very much affected me, and I was like,
I don't need to be affected that way again.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, I but if we're talking about Cloverfield movies, I
don't know that I'll ever need to watch clover I
like Cloverfield, but I don't know if I ever want
to watch it again. Tied Cloverfield Lane totally different story.
That's yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I'll watch it. I've watched it multiple times. I will
continue to watch it.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
John Goodwan so so scary in that movie.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, but it's kind of more of a psychological thriller.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yes, for almost no spoilers, but for almost the entire movie,
it's more of a psychological thriller.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen the final Cloverfield piece in
the trilogy, but I did like the first two. We've
gone way off topic. So what did you want to
say about Fallout? Oh?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
So, so, Really it was actually more about Excel because
I was curious based upon what I know about you Ariel,
and I feel like I know you fairly well since
our friendship does stretch back two decades. But but I
I'm curious, have you ever played any kind of computer

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game where you either were tempted to make like a
spreadsheet in order to help maximize your your game you know,
performance or whatever, or it was a game that people
had done that, and you use some of that to
help you because I have.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I have certainly written down on like a piece of
paper or on a notepad, thing like do this, and
do this, and do this. If it's like a puzzle game,
keep failing. Yeah, I think that's about as close as
I've gotten, unless you consider like building this podcast a game,
in which case, all the.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Time, yeah, I was thinking about games like Stardu Valley
or Animal Crossing or something like something like that that
you've got like choices to make about what crops am
I going to grow? And you are trying to mend
max like how much am I spending versus how much
do I make by selling the thing that I cultivate?

(33:13):
Like stardew value was that for me? In Thank goodness
the wiki now is so well built out because it's
much easier to reference that and just see like a
breakdown of what all the different items are at all
the different levels of quality, and then you can make
your decision about what you want to pursue. Because it's

(33:35):
the worst feeling to be like am I am I
leaving money on the table because I've chosen to grow melons,
which take twelve days to mature, as opposed to par steps,
which take four days to mature. Don't at me, y'all.
I know that par steps you grow in spring, and
melons you grow in summer. I know already. You don't
need to tell that's just a hypothetical.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I gave no, absolutely not. I do legit sticks as
part of my day job. I'm good at it, but
I don't find Let me phrase this in a good
way in case anybody who I work with listens, I

(34:16):
enjoyed doing logistics for the purpose of making somebody's elf
else's life better and easier, and that is one hundred
percent the truth. But in my games, I am not
a rules girly. I am not a logistics girly. If
I have to get into that, I lose interest in
the game very quickly. Even in like LARPing and tabletop
While I did enjoy like three point five D and D,

(34:41):
you know, I didn't enjoy all the math behind it.
I don't like. I guess the closest that I've gotten
to is like building a larp character, where I keep
track of all the amounts of my point expenditures for
my starting build to make sure that I have enough,
But you're.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
A You're not a men max kind of player.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm not a min max kind of player. And if
I am, it's got to be organic. Like I mean,
I've played characters where I'm like, I'm going to go
all the way down this skill tree again, LARPing and stuff.
But yeah, no, I'm not a min maxer most of
the time.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, same here. Like I remember when I was younger,
I was more of that men max mentality because I
looked at games as something you were to win, right,
but especially with role playing games. The more I got
into it, the more I realized that I found more
enjoyment in the storytelling aspect rather than the the you know,

(35:35):
you rolla die and you succeed aspect. And I don't
want to yuck anyone's yum. If you are more of
the men max kind of player, there's a place for that.
There's no there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, it
is a challenge to make sure you're in a group
where your playstyle is compatible and you're not going to

(35:56):
have any rough points. But there's nothing wrong with men maxing.
And in fact, you can mix men max players with
people who are more role play focus players. There's nothing
wrong with that either. It does take a really good
game master to incorporate all of that properly. But yeah,
I have gotten to the point now where I'm much

(36:17):
more in favor of the storytelling aspects rather than my
character has eighteen zero zero strengths so I can swing
the sword real hard.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, let me tell you, even like in Calamity, where
I did get all the way down, like my character's
main build was like shooting, and then you had like
your build, and then you had your stat behind it
s stamina, and then our dexterity rather and then like
charisma and charming. I started off the game as a
character who had a high build in one of those
changed their life and was starting over in a completely

(36:51):
different build tree. So I had all the history but
none of the skills and none of the points in it.
And then I spread all of my skills out like
way further then I could get into the rules. But
I'm gonna spare you all way further than was suggested.
So by the end of the game, my like my
overall build, I didn't hit as high as caps as

(37:12):
other people because I had spread it out at the
beginning to reflect someone who was having to live on
their own and had to get like basic survival skills
and basic fighting skills and basic shooting skills and basic
charl and like kind of had to just all these
little things you'd pick up if you're having to survive
on your own and having to fill all these gaps
by yourself. And it also meant like there was a
perk system, and I just I got very few perks

(37:33):
because I did. I never looked at it to go, oh,
I need to get this and this and this to
get this. I just kind of played organically. I did
get pretty high in some stuff because I didn't miss
I think any I didn't miss most of the games.
But yeah, I was gonna say something else about this,

(37:55):
and I don't remember at all.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
That's fair. That's fair. I honestly I like your approach, though,
because I think that makes total sense for the character
you were building, Like creating a survivalist by definition, you
need to have a base level of understanding and proficiency,
or else you don't survive, as opposed to someone who
perhaps is part of a community where those kinds of

(38:23):
things can be specialized in so that you can go
deeper but you don't need to know how to do
everything because you know build down the street does that
for you. That kind of stuff makes total sense. So
I think, like for people who are dedicated role playing,
that kind of approach is it's really logical and it
fits well with the character. And yeah, it might mean

(38:43):
that you don't get that magical ability to snipe from
an invisible vantage point and take out six people in
who are happen to be standing in a row in
front of you, but your character makes sense. The interactions
you have are meaningful, and you're telling You're telling a

(39:04):
story that holds up as opposed to know some Mary
Sue character who's just really good at the thing that
you know they focused on.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Which means I'm bad at like collaborative card deck building games.
I'm not as great at or strategy games because I
don't do that spreadsheet logistics stuff as much. Sure, although
I am even worse than a mind Maxers a player,
not to say min maxers are bad, but I have
been berated by important people in the gaming industry for

(39:35):
my game style play, which is attack at the beginning
when everybody's weak. So even though you know you're not
going to get strong. Everybody else is brought down to
your level, Like I'm the person in Settlers of Katan
who moves the thief to the most prosperous place in
the first round. And yes, Stephen, step step twe did
shame me for that on a Joco cruise when he

(39:56):
was still alive. So I've tried to be a little
bit nicer in my starting gameplay. But that's like just
hit out the gate. I know it's bad. I'm better
to play with now, people I promise.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I mean, don't ever play. I can run games and
I can play role playing games, so this doesn't apply
for those. But if for any competitive game, don't play me,
don't invite me to your game, don't include Ariel can
speak from experience. She's seen it happen. I often will
adopt the philosophy of I don't have to win, I

(40:31):
just have to make sure you lose. And it is unpleasant,
and I acknowledge that, and I also wish I would change,
but despite all efforts, it hasn't happened in forty eight
years of my life. And yeah, I have a niece
who appears to have inherited the same kind of competitive

(40:52):
nature and petty nature that I have.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Do you enjoy it when you're doing it?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Though? That's it's a weird question for me to contemplate
because at the time, it just feels like it's the
only thing I can do, gotcha. I mean, like, I've
also been put into some situations, some crappy situations where
I was putting at a distinct disadvantage while being introduced

(41:18):
to a game, and it soured me on the game. Right,
it's not necessarily the game's fault, but like there are
certainly there's was an Apples to Apples session. I don't
know if you were there, Aeriel, but I remember getting
so angry because I felt I had played the absolute
perfect card. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I think I was there and somebody else picked something
that was completely more random because it tickled their funny bone.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yes, And I was like, screw this game. It doesn't
make sense. I'm not I can't necessarily read everybody's mind
to know what little absurd thing is going to delight them.
That's not a fun game for me.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I'm out of here, so I'll never invite you to
any of those kind of games. I Yeah, maybe this
is why we're such good friends. It's because we're both
super like competitive.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, it's it's possible, like I but again, like recognizing
that in myself means that, like I love cooperative games
because then we're all working together to create, you know,
achieve some sort of goal and I and it doesn't
engage that part of my brain that gets real vindictive
and evil unless it's like Betrayal at the House in

(42:30):
the Hill or a game like that where there it's
cooperative up to a point and then it becomes competitive.
Then it can be it can be touch and go.
So but yeah, like it's that's why I just was
curious because when I heard about a game that's being
played within an excel sheet, I was thinking, you know,
there have been games in the past I've played where

(42:51):
I was tempted to create an Excel sheet. The other
examples are ones where they're collectibles and you need to
keep track of which collectibles you've come across in which
ones you still need, And Assassin's Creed is like the
worst about this. But you know, if you don't keep track,
then at the end of the game, it'll be like, oh,

(43:11):
you're missing three of these things, but you don't know
which three or where they might be, and then you're like, well,
does that mean you have to go through like a
guide and check every single location of these two hundred
feathers or whatever to find the three that I'm missing. Like,
it just drives me nuts.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
I have to apologize, Jathan. I just burped and I
thought I had muted my mic, but apparently it didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
I'll catch it in the edit. It's fine the listeners.
The listeners won't even hear it.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I don't even know if it was loud enough. But
I'm just I'm eating my I'm eating some crow right now.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Well that's what's.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, I know this game. It's gamy, yeah, exactly, game
not intentional.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
But we have news items, right, we do.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
And we've talked for a very long time already.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
It's funny because we looked at the lineup, and as
always we look at the lineup and say, well, this
is going to be a short episode, but because it's us,
we're long winded.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah. So the first thing we're going to talk about
is something I don't know that's falling into like the
Velma category of maybe doesn't look as bad as the
first one, which is the Mapasa the Lion King prequel,
wait called Colin the Lion King.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Ariel, You're saying The Lion King was bad. I thought
that cartoon was great.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Why that the cartoon was? The cartoon was fabulous, amazing music.
It fell into the era of cartoon movies where Disney
was still doing like just brilliant soundtracks. No, the live
action Lion King.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
The quote unquote Live Action Lion King, the CGI Lion.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
The CGI re release of Lion King that happened in
the last ten years. Yeah, is having a prequel Mufasa
the Lion King, about Mufasa being born into nothing and
kind of becoming the king. Now kind of he becomes
the king.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, which is interesting that it's that it's a story
about a lion who came from like humble beginnings who
then rises to become king. Because I had always worked
in a yeah, well yes, but also I worked under
the assumption, or I was under the assumption that Mufasa
was like the latest in a line of kings, because

(45:34):
otherwise it starts raising questions about why is Simba being
looked at as the next king if we just have
an example of someone establishing himself as king and it's
not through a hereditary line, Why does scar have to
appear to to you know, like, well, kill from Mufasa.

(45:57):
Obviously he has to kill Mufasa in order to become king,
but why does he have to scare Simba off?

Speaker 1 (46:02):
So maybe I misunderstood the teaser trailer, and maybe Mufasa
just thinks that he nothing, but he is.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Rafiki says essentially that he came from nothing, like Rafiki's
opening narration in the in the teaser, like he says
what you were saying?

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But Disney has been reimagining a lot
of character's history. You know this for a while.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Now, that's true Maleficent, uh and uh, Cruella and yeah,
all the villains.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
But MUFAs is not a villain.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Well you live long enough, and he just didn't give
the chance.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Well, I mean, but to be fair, to be fair,
if he came from nothing and put into a system
of like you're born into power as opposed to elected
into power, then maybe he really was a villain.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, yeah, I guess, which I hate.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
To say because I love I love lying king and
a good guy.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I guess I guess I'm being super harsh. I thought
this trailer looked fine. I am still not a fan
of the CGI approach. I would much prefer a hand
animated version of the story to CGI animation.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I also am not a fan of the CGI animation.
And this is kind of something that I heard other
people say as well, is like, if you're going for
photo realism, you don't get the expressions that bring across
the emotion that you were getting from these animals, because
animals don't express a mote the same way that people do.
This trailer looked like they inched a little bit more

(47:32):
into cartoony expressions to get some more emotion across, so
it played a little bit better. But it's just a teaser,
so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, I don't know that I'll go. I never saw
the CGI Lion King. I just didn't feel the need to.
And when I heard some of the interpretations of some
of the songs that I also loved from the animated one,
that kind of reinforced my decision to see it because
I didn't like the new arrangements that much. I don't

(48:04):
mean to be the grouchy old guy who's like it
was better the way they did it before. I don't
necessarily believe that. I just prefer the original versions of
those songs to the ones that were rearranged and remade
for the CGI remake. So I know that people are

(48:24):
also always on Disney about going back to the well
over and over again in order to do their next projects,
where whether it's a remake or it's like a prequel
or a sequel, and that this is a big like
they're talking about, like create a bankruptcy with the company.
In fact, the director of the film had to deal

(48:48):
with people saying like, you're part of a soulless machine
that's just generating content, and he said The Lion King
is a phenomenal story that introduced kids to like Shakespeare
for the first time because it's essentially a retelling of Hamlet,
and that like, how can you call that soul liess?
So it was an interesting debate. And but on the

(49:09):
flip side, if you do make that argument about like
why don't you do more original stuff, then you see
some of their attempts at original or semi original ideas
that have fallen flat in recent years, which I would
argue don't have that much to do with the fact
that it wasn't a recognizable I P but more that
it just wasn't a very good story, but like.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Super well, what's that? But in conto did super well?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Well, I think the what was the one with the
red panda? Was it turning Red?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Is red turning Red?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah? That I thought was great. I thought it was
a fantastic original idea.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
But then there are also they're incorporating the characters from
that into the Disney theme parks.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah. Yeah, But then there's the other one. What was
that Strange Worlds that ended up flopping something.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Like that, something like that, or Strange New Worlds.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Or well one of those is a Star Trek.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Series, Strange Strange World, Strange.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
World, Strange World. Okay, I still haven't seen that, and
I've heard is great, but like a lot of people,
I just never went to see it. So yeah, does
He's kind of in a tricky situation like do you
do you lean on your established ip and risk the
fans saying you don't have any new ideas, or do
you go with new ideas? But no one goes to

(50:32):
see it? And maybe that was a marketing issue. I
would argue it was because I don't remember seeing any
marketing stuff for it until I saw a movie poster
at a theater and was like, what's this? And then
you told me we had covered in the middle and
see and I was like, I have no memory of that.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, a lot of things are coming out without great
marketing and kind of failing, Like Lockwood and Co. Came
out with little marketing and then kind of didn't succeed.
There are rumors at dead Boy Detectives isn't doing super well.
There's rumors from What's on Netflix, which is one outlet,
saying that they didn't perform well enough to get a
second season. But some other places are like they were

(51:10):
in the top, like top ten for three weeks. That's great.
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Us. I do need to see that series though, now
that you've mentioned it, I need to watch it.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, if you want Dead Boy Detectives to be a thing,
or you're interested in watching it and maybe geting second season,
you should do that sooner rather than later because those
metrics count. It came out recently. It kind of came
out like we saw the trailers and then it just
kind of came out without any applause, and so I
even missed. I forgot that it came out basically, but

(51:42):
you know that means that Netflix is also like riding
the line between how much original do we do and
how much redos do we do? And that brings us
to like our next story, which is they are apparently
doing a Scooby Doo live action series.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah. Now, of course we got some films, some live
action Scooby do films. Did you ever watch those?

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I've seen bits and pieces.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, same here. The bits and pieces I saw looked
like they were very kind of clever, Like it made
me think of not quite as over the top and
campy as the Brady Bunch movie, but kind of in
that same vein of we're going to acknowledge the silly
parts of this show and this series, and we're going

(52:27):
to not deny it. We're going to lean into that
a little bit without going too over the top. Like
there were obviously some jokes about perhaps Velma's preferences, but
nothing that was, you know, over the top and objectionable.
I think so interesting to see this. I'm wondering how

(52:50):
this is going to come across. The folks who are
behind it. We talked about them recently. It's the people
behind Cowboy Bebop.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
So behind Dead Boy Detectives. Yeah, so I guess maybe
it's not doing so bad. And also the Chilling Adventures
of Sabrina, which I watched and it frustrated me and
was too dark for me, but a lot of people
really loved it.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah. A friend of the show, Shaye Lee, was also
frustrated by it, So you are not alone.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Probably for different reasons, I'm gonna say, but.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
You're just saying that because our friend Shay is a witch.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I mean maybe some of the same reasons. There was
a lot of it that came across very campy. I'm
not a witch, but I was about to quote Princes.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
I was so ready. I was so ready. You never
had it so good. Yeah. So yeah. The fact that
there's going to be another live action it's interesting because
of course we also still have the Velma series going
on over at Max, so clearly there's still interest in
the Scooby Doo property. I am hopeful that whatever the

(54:03):
live action series ends up being, it ends up being
less mean spirited than Velma is.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I hope so too.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah, I don't mind it being campy and fun and
perhaps a little like tongue in cheek and wink wink
at the audience. Just don't make it mean. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yeah, but some things are definitely looking up, like the
seat trailer for season two of My Adventures, So Superman
just looks delightful.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, well, I mean it's fun to see Superman acting
like a hero.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yeah, yeah, especially where like that article came out about
Zack Snyder who was like, well, he was gonna do
all this bad stuff and then die and then come
back and then be a good guy at the end.
But it was going to be like all dark, dark, dark,
dark dark until then. So yeah, it's really it's really
nice to see Superman.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah. I remember Ariel said that that article to me
with like an oob or whatever, and I still haven't
read it, but I remember looking at the headline and thinking,
there's like an eighty percent chance, at least maybe ninety
percent chance that I'm going to read this and just go, well,
thank goodness that didn't happen, because what you did, Zack Snyder,

(55:10):
already did so much damage to the idea of Superman.
So you have you have essentially confirmed my suspicions.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
And I say that as someone who've said it before.
I liked Man of Steel as a movie. I thought
it was a good and entertaining movie. It wasn't a
great Superman origin story, but this trailer for My Adventures
of Superman, which is an animated series, looks delightful. Yeah,
like if Invincible was uplifting instead of horribly depressing.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yes, yeah, yeah, which I think that's I think it's
fine for Invincible to be what it is and for
this to be what it is, Like both things have
a place in entertainment. But yeah, I agree, I don't
I don't know that maybe My Adventures with Superman might
have been another one of those things that I did
know about and then just subsequently totally for good existed.

(56:02):
Because when I saw this trailer, at first, I was like, oh,
this is a season two, this thing's already been going
for a while. And then I watched it and I thought,
I think I might need to dedicate some time to
catching up and watching this because it looks like the
sort of thing that I would find really entertaining.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yes, so I think I'm trying to remember who the
acting who the voice of Superman is in this. Yeah,
Jack Quaid is Superman.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Oh so I know boys.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, and from lower Decks and a bunch of other stuff.
This did come across my radar. But so there are
a lot of like DC animated things that come out
all the time across various platforms, and there have been
maybe less across various platforms now, But so it really

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takes something to like hit me as this is worth
talking about, yeah, as opposed to oh, yeah, we're just
getting another Superman show, and I wish we had. I
wish I had looked more into it, because yeah, I
watched the trailer for season two and I'm like, I
want to watch this. I want something that is fun
and entertaining and has good story and I feel good

(57:15):
at the end of it. This is why I end up.
I started watching Drink and Falls because there's a lot
of stuff out there that just is Like, there are
many shows that I want to watch, but some of
them I really need brain power for, or I need
like emotional bandwidth to watch because I'm just stressed or
tired or whatever, and I lean on things that are
funny or happy. This is why I have, like, I'll

(57:38):
probably keep Paramount Plus even after I'm done with like
all the Star Trek stuff, because I watch after midnight
when there's nothing else to watch because it makes me laugh. Yeah, yeah, so, yeah,
this looks really good.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah, I'm one hundred percent on the same page as you. Like,
same reasoning too. Even when I know something is really
highly regarded, if it is so dark or just filled
with unlikable characters, even if it's very well done, it
can be a big hurdle for me to get over

(58:19):
and give time to it, because, like you, I'm like,
the real world is so stressful, the day to day
news and stuff, like, if you're keeping informed with things,
you might be stressed out. And I just need not
like meaningless popcorn and entertainment, but uplifting entertainment. I need hope.

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I was talking to a friend of mine the other
day where hope is a really important thing for me
in my entertainment, which is why I can't watch stuff
like Walking Dead, right because I feel like there's no
hope in those shows. It's all just how do we
survive another day? But there's no hope associated with it.
It's just a and an attempt to avoid death. And

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that's not enough for me. I need I need hope.
That's also why I couldn't watch Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, that's why I don't like Children of Men. Is
because that movie has no hope whatever.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
No, it has a hopeful ending. That ending is hopeful.
It does know it does.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Those people that are coming after the main characters at
the end are going to kill them.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
They're not going to catch them.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
It leaves it up to interpretation.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
They're not going to catch them, and I choose to
interpret that they get away.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
I'm not the only person who finds that movie hopeless,
so it's very divisive. I didn't enjoy it, but that's okay.
If you did, that's great. My Adventures with Superman I'm
sure will not be the same experience.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
No, I don't think we're just if My Adventures of
Superman Season two ends like and you're like, this is
just like Children of Men, something is gone terribly wrong.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
I also suspect i'll leave. I am going to see
this next movie that you put into our lineup, The
Glass Worker.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I suspect that will also make me feel more good
than sad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, it's a it's an animated film. It's an anime film,
and it looks really pretty and it uh, you know,
it's the trailer that we got just looks nice. Uh,
there's clearly like an epic storyline going on, or that

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the story we're watching is set against an epic wartime
story but in this somewhat fantastical world, and they don't
go overboard with the fantasy elements either. It's it's like
there is that part in it, but it isn't like
everything is magical and surrounded with fairies all the time.

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I really liked it. I thought it was a kind
of wistful.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah. Yeah, it's got like the story pace as like
a very Miyazaki feel, but it's not. It's by Mano
Animation Studios, which is Pakistan's first studio specializing in hand
drawn animation. It's coming out in Pakistan in July. I'm
hoping that it's also coming out here. Yeah, they haven't

(01:01:18):
looked into it that far yet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
The trailer is really impressive. I mean, if that's like
a first effort type thing, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
It's yeah, it's beautiful. It gives me like vaguely like
Anastasia vibes too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, I was getting like, howel's moving castle like you said, Mayazaki. Yeah,
it was giving me that kind of feel.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah. Yeah, definitely planning on seeing it. If I'm able
to see it, you should definitely check out the trailer.
You can YouTube, google it, or it'll be on our website. No,
I was just gonna ask if you've watched any of Cobra.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Kaya define any?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Do you mean, like more than just a trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
I've watched more than just a trailer. I have not
seen an episode all the way through, but I've seen clips.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Just give up or.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
No, I've just seen compilations of stuff, and all the
compilations I saw looked fine. But I think part of
the problem is that compilations show you interesting moments, but
they're completely out of context. So I didn't really get
attached to any of the characters I was watching. There

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was a point where I would be like, I'd look
up at character just to be like, what is this
person's deal? Why are they such a jerk? Like that
kind of stuff, Like, I just don't know. I haven't
watched the I could watch the show and answer these questions,
but that's too much work. Let me go to a wiki.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
I mean, I think it's a good show. I think
you should give New Girl a shot. First is very good.
I'm I think you would really enjoy New Girl once
you got past like the first couple of episodes, because
you know, everything takes a little bit to get on
their role in their.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Ariel's miss in twenty twenty four is to get me
to watch New Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
You just need to give it a shot. Maybe I will.
I will get some episodes that you need to watch,
but they won't be as funny out of context. But
Cobra Kai is one of those shows that I love watching,
and yet I'm constantly infuriated at the adults being so
dumb and petty. Not all of the adults, just the
main adults. They're like, their spouses are fine. Well, I mean,

(01:03:27):
and then like the kids be Oh, I get so frustrated.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Well, I mean like Johnny obviously, Like that's like the
whole concept, at least of the first season, is that
it's largely his journey and how messed up he was,
as you know, essentially a bully who was encouraged to
be a bully by an authority figure, right, Like he

(01:03:52):
already appeared to be somewhat of a bully, and then
you learn more about it, Like again I know this
from just osmosis, but you know, you learn more about
his background and like the things that kind of shaped
him into the person he is and and how that's
affecting his journey into the person he's going to be.
And that was like, that was like the value proposition

(01:04:14):
of that first season, and then obviously the introduction of
the kids. They become more and more important to the
story as it goes on, so that they become the focus,
not him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
But I I just I just think that there's some
emotional intelligence lacking obviously between Danny and Johnny. Yes, right,
Like Danny's a good guy, but he's not a great guy. Yes, yeah,
also kind of a butt.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I kind of like that though. I kind of like that,
Like that's a that's a risky decision to make, right
that you take the character who, in a previous installment
within this narrative world, is portrayed as mostly the the
good guy protagonist who is truly wronged by the antagonists,

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and that while he might have his own foibles or whatever,
he's genuinely a good person. For a subsequent series to say,
let's take that character and say, maybe he's made some
bad choices too, maybe there are certain character traits that
he's developed as he's gotten older that are not so positive.

(01:05:25):
Like that's a risky decision to make. But from what
I understand, the show handles it pretty well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
I think so. I mean mainly I get irritated because
I'm like, you two are adults, and you should try
some problem solving first. Yeah, but there's a lot of
bad blood. There's a lot of like, you know, history
between them. But you know, there's a running joke on
how I Met your Mother with Barney Stinson, who is
a very problematic character, but he part of that. Part

(01:05:54):
of the joke is he thinks that Johnny is the
good guy in the Karate Kid movies and that Danny
as being kind of a bully and a jerk. I
agree that Danny's a little bit of a jerky kid, yeah,
even though Johnny was definitely a bully and physically aggressive,
which I feel is worse.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, but on a safety The whole reason we're bringing
this up, because we still we buried the lead as
far as you can possibly bury it, is that we
know that the final season is going to be delivered
in three sections.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Maybe Club released it, and also it's on YouTube's it's
like a fifty second trailer but it shows a lot
of stuff. But yeah, we're getting the series in three
parts in the first five episodes come out in July,
which is not surprising because yeah, like last month they
were still looking for people.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Right, Yeah, it's actually crazy turnaround for post production to
get it out by July.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Maybe maybe in March, but still, like I mean it
probably they probably had like some and bag already, so
like because of the strike, they might I don't know this,
This is just me postulating because of the strike, maybe
they got the beginning done and then so those things
have gone through more post production so they can be
released in July, whereas like the later part of the

(01:07:16):
stories will still need work and we'll be released later.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Right right, yeah, now that makes sense. Yeah, I'm glad
that they're going to be able to wrap up the
series and that it's not going to be one of
those things where they're clearly planning on continuing the story
but then they get canceled and can't do it. Like,
it's good to know where the finale is, right, that

(01:07:44):
this is going. This is leading up to a satisfying
conclusion one way or the other. Maybe not everyone will
have their story wrapped up in a neat little bow,
but we can be reasonably certain it's the story the
showrunners wanted to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's coming to
a place where it's good to end it. I think
otherwise you're going to start rehashing stuff and you won't
have enough character growth. We have like three more stories.
I know we're running along today, you guys, we're just
now like hitting an hour oh a little past. Uh.
But we're getting a docu series on Peacock about black

(01:08:24):
cowboys inspired by the movie Nope. And I'm pretty excited
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Uh yeah, I'm curious how many aliens are gonna be
in this docu series about black cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I mean, it's a docu series, so only if aliens
were really in the Wild West.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Gosh. Uh No. That's really cool though, Like to be
able to tell a story that I think we can
clearly say has been extremely underrepresented in any traditional history books,
at least in that I have encountered, that's exciting. Like,

(01:09:04):
obviously there have been attempts to tell stories that were
involving more than just white dudes in the Old West,
but it's a relatively recent effort to do that. And
because like I think back to the the movies I
watched when I was younger, and a lot of the

(01:09:26):
ones that sat in the Old West, they pretended like
white people were the only people who existed, and of
course that wasn't true. But yeah, you know, being able
to have like an actual docu series that covers these
these stories that maybe otherwise you never would have heard
about that is exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Yeah. Yeah, And like you know, it was kind of
poked fun at in like Blazing Saddles and then Michael
Ji White just recently came out with a Western.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Yeah, it was like it was like a Rudy Ray
Moore movie. It Black Johnny Black Oh Out while Johnny
Black Black Dynamite was the other one that also, Yeah,
very very much in the the kind of blaxploitation mode
of entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
And there have been like a couple other shows that
have focused on that recently. But you're right, it is
definitely more of a modern thing. And I've noticed, like
on social media, and I'm obviously not the expert to
talk about this, but I've seen creators of color talk
about the fact that, like talk about how underrepresented black

(01:10:39):
people are in the cowboy culture because there have been
a lot of people in that culture of color and
they just get overlooked. So again, I'm not the expert
to speak on that, but it is a really interesting
thing to hear others that are talk about and which
is why I'm so excited about the Stocky series.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah, totally. Uh, I'll be really interested to check it out.
It's I Jordan Peel has kind of a mixed record
for me now at this point, where I feel like
some of the stuff he's put out has been among
the most compelling storytelling I've ever seen, and then others,

(01:11:18):
like The Twilight Zone less So, so here's hoping this
falls in the first camp and not the second one.
But again, I think he does take storytelling very seriously,
so I'm sure the stories will be captivating.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I liked some of the Twilight Zone. Some
of it fell that flat for me, but that's like
the old Twilight Zone did that too, so.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
That's also true. Yeah. I mean, there are old episodes
of the original Twilight Zone that are just straight up westerns,
which is wild to say, but there are if you
watch that first season of twilight Zone. Anyway. Next up,
We've got We don't normally cover commercials unless it's the
superb Owl, but there was this one little ad I

(01:12:01):
saw that I felt like I had to throw into
our lineup where it's it's for Apple and iPhones and uh.
And the ad follows a person dressed up in full
Boba fette bounty hunter armor using an app to locate

(01:12:22):
his buddies at a Star Wars convention, and and I
thought it was cute, And I just I put it
in here because I was like, this might be the
most little entertaining a few minutes of Star Wars I've
seen in a while, because I haven't watched a lot.
I just got so burnt out on Star Wars content

(01:12:43):
that I don't typically watch it anymore. But this was cute.
And I also thought it was funny they have a
song in it that that that references five oh ones,
but they're talking specifically about the Levi's jeans, these these
kind of face black jeans. But I thought it was
so funny that they used five oh ones because the

(01:13:04):
five hundred and first is the fan group that does
the really elaborate Empire's cosplays. So I was like, did
they do that? Did they pick that song specifically because
it references five oh ones?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Probably probably? I I I realized watching I'm kind of
like a little bit of a self important geek because
I was like, how many of those people do I know?
Are any of those the Mandalorians that I know locally?
But I have no idea where they filmed that? And
there are Mandalorian amazing Mandalorian cosplay groups all over the States.

(01:13:42):
And although I know that my friends who do it
also travel, so.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Uh, yeah, that was really yeah, it was. It's a
fun little ad. I mean, it did not make me
want to go out and get an iPhone. Actually, I
do like the idea of using an app that lets
you close in specifically on someone's location, and at a
science fiction convention, that would be a billion percent helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
So one my Google Maps already lets me share location
with people, so like I can see where some of
my family members are at any time. This is especially
helpful because I've got family that does travel a lot,
or like they would share their location when they'd go out,
like on their boat or whatever. That sounds very fancy,
but it's not. And so just as a way of like, hey,

(01:14:32):
we're traveling, so and I do this too, Like, hey,
I'm on a road trip, I'm going to share my
location with you, so you know, if I disappear where
I'm at right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
True, But that's that's slightly different though, because this app
What it was really more about was letting you guiding
you to someone else's location, not just telling you where
they were, but saying this is the direction you need
to go in. This is how far away they are
from you from where you are currently, so that that
way you know, like, oh, I'm like four hundred feet away,

(01:15:03):
I'm going to need to walk a little bit before
I can actually spot them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Yeah, it's it's a little bit more granular now, mind you.
I haven't tried the location sharing that I have when
I'm close to the people I'm around, so I don't
know how granular I could get. But like I know,
I like I can zoom in and see exactly where
they are and exactly where I am.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Also, you and I both know that if you are
at a science fiction convention, the chances of you getting
a solid connection are very low.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
That's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, yeah,
like that's great. That looked not even as crowded as
Dragon Con is, although it was, it was crowded enough
to make me feel claustrophobic in the commercial in a
beautiful way, but also in a way like I'm glad
I'm not in that crowd, but yeah, it may not work.
If you're at Dragon Con. Is fifty percent chance it

(01:15:54):
won't work.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Yeah, those networks get overwhelmed so quickly. I mean, anyone
out there who's ever been to any massive event where
lots of people are on their devices, you know, you
know that the network will get overwhelmed and then suddenly
you're not able to even send a text message, let
alone launch an app that gives you real time updates
on how we'll close.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Someone is yeah, okay, and We've got one more story
to talk about, and I'm really sad we don't have
a lot of time to talk about it now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Yeah, we'll just go through this quick, which is that
Airbnb like every now and then they do these weird
promotional things where they will create the company will end
up essentially commissioning a structure to either be built or
converted to resemble like a famous one, or they'll actually

(01:16:44):
get access to a building that was used for something
famous and then do like a makeover on the building
and then let people rent it out and in this case.
Airbnb's got a couple of interesting ones, including a house
in Westchester, New York that has been made up to
look like the Professor X's School for the Gifted in

(01:17:06):
X Men ninety seven as And there's also a house
that's been made to resemble like like every angle is
made to resemble the house from up so much so
that one they're using a crane to lift the house
up so that you're quote unquote flying through the air,
and two the first ten minutes of you going to

(01:17:27):
the house are really sad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
I haven't watched UP.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Not gonna. I know that joke. That joke is lost
on Aeriel. But y'all out there who have watched Up,
you think that was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
It's it's not lost on me. It's the reason I
won't watch the movie. But but I will say it
looks beautiful and it's a really cool idea. I don't
know how comfortable I am staying in a house that's
being lifted by a crane.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Yeah, I also can you just imagine being in a
house like that that has like if you're in a
group that has kids in it, because you know those
kids would be running back and forth trying to get
the house to start swinging, and I would be like,
I would be like just gripping onto furniture, and I'd
be like, I am busy pooping all the pants I

(01:18:14):
brought on this on this trip, not just the ones
I'm wearing, the ones that are still packed up. I'm
pooping those two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Yeah. I'm sure it's safe. I'm sure they've had a
lot of construction and engineers whatever look at it. But
that's scary to me. You mentioned when we were talking
about this before, when you brought it up to me
as a conversation topic, that like the X Men one
gives you a tour with costume characters.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. Yes. According to
the article, part of the experience of renting out that
location is that it's like a multi hour guided tour
with actors who are dressed up as X Men. And
I told Ariel, I'm like, this sounds like I would

(01:19:01):
like this feels weird to say, as someone who has
been a character at festivals, like a street character, and
you're in character all day, You're not supposed to break
character when you are quote unquote on stage. It feels
weird to say this as someone who has done that.
It feels so cringey, Like I think I would hate
every moment of being led around the X Men mansion

(01:19:26):
by Beast or whatever and just be like thinking, I
hope this experience ends soon.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
So I get that, Like, if you have kids, it's
amazing because you get the tour through the house, you
get to learn where all the cool things are. Right,
there's all, but there's also like a drink mixing, like
a cocktail mixing class with Beast in his lab, which
is super cool until you think about the costumes and
how how what which version of Beast is it? And

(01:19:56):
how much is he gonna look like Beast?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
How much? How much blue are you going to end
up in your cocktail?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Yeah, but I mean, like for kids, probably amazing. I'm
really enjoying X Men ninety seven. I'm also caught up
on that. That's something I forgot to say I was watching.
I'm really enjoying it. I think it's a great, great
show and a great continuation very much. I yeah, for kids,
it's great. I made a joke that I'm like, or

(01:20:26):
you could just be like that one creepy woman who's
like I want to stay in this house. But I
only need this one X men to show me around.
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Yeah, she specifically said Gambit, So now we know that
Ariel likes likes that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Creole accent Gambit, Nightcrawler and Beast.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Wow. I'm not going to spend any time dissecting any
of that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
But reading the article is interesting because it looks like
some of these experiences might be free and first come,
first surf.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Yeah. I don't know the details behind, actually, because that's
the thing about these articles, like it ends up always
being this big pr thing for Airbnb, but you it's
very rare that I actually see anything useful if you
wanted to be someone who actually had a chance to
stay in one of these places, and it does feel
like it typically is extremely limited to the point where

(01:21:23):
you start asking questions of how do they what criteria
do they use to choose the people who go, how
many of these are friends of the executives of Airbnb?
That kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Yeah, I mean it does say in the article that
some of the experiences are free, and the ones that
aren't are going to be under like one hundred per
person and it's first come fort surf. I'll do some
more research to see if Airbnb has released anything about
signing up for that, if listeners have interest in that.
But it's also interesting me because some of it's like

(01:21:56):
go see a dog, go to a concert with Doja Cat,
or go to Kevin Hart's nightclub like exclusively to hang
out with him, and both of those are very busy people.
So it's got to be like a limited time, like
very specific dates too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Yeah, like you have to have it open in your schedule.
It's not like it's gonna be hey, you know, August
is wide open.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Yeah, But I mean they've got a lot of a
lot of cool experiences and they're not they're all over
the world. Like there's a gaming one in Spain apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Did they have one where it's have tea with Florence
Pugh because that's all I really want.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
No, But they have one where you like, you go
to a house it's all about gaming and you get
like classes on playing Fortnite or something from a famous
gamer who's, oh wow, that was super into Fortnite.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
So yeah, I was about to say that would probably
be the most frustrating that experience for that person. If
I were the one to win that they'd be like, yeah,
you know what, let's just put Tetris on for you,
old man, and we're gonna just call it a night. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Yeah. So again, don't know if you have to pay
to rent the Airbnb per normal and then just the
extra the bonuses are free, or if it's out of
the goodness of their heart and if you can get
in great. I'm guessing it's probably the former, but they
say that they the article that we'll post has all
of the current experiences that they're planning on opening at
the bottom of it, and then also they say that

(01:23:21):
they will be adding more. I think it's a cool idea,
even if it's even if there's not one that's like, ooh,
that's for me. Yeah, the X Men house would totally
be for me if I didn't have to get the
multi hour tour, ye, just because I would feel socially awkward.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Which is so hard to think that you would feel
socially Because again, both of us have been like characters
who have stayed in character for ages. We understand what
that gig is and it's so funny. I mean, I
totally feel the same way you do, but it is
funny that that's our reaction.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Well, And I think it's because I I've looked behind
the matt like Disney has done it well. I've encountered
characters there that have totally brought me into the story.
Like when Commander Hucks, General Hucks whatever bombarded our drink
time at Ogus Cantina. That was amazing and it was

(01:24:21):
very immersive and it didn't feel cheesy at all. We
were just able to like lean into it. But if
I'm paying to go somewhere specific and it's not a LARP,
and I'm not also an X Men in character, then
all of a sudden, I'm worried about giving those actors
what they need because I've been on the side where I'm like,
I want to give the audience what they need, so
I want to be a good audience member to make
sure that it's getting cycled back to the actors. And

(01:24:43):
that's where I've become very self aware.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Yeah, right, because we've also had experiences with bad audiences, right, Like, Yeah,
most of the audiences, thankfully that I encountered, and I
imagine it's the same for you, most of them have
been at worst neutral, mostly good, sometimes great. Sometimes you
have like a phenomenal interaction that just makes your day.

(01:25:05):
On occasion, you run into bad, just outright bad audience experiences,
and that, certainly as an actor, can really influence how
you comport yourself when you're in a similar situation with
someone else who's taking on that role, Like, don't I
don't really have a desire to go back to the

(01:25:26):
Renaissance Festival. I feel like there's not really enough for
me to want to do to go back. But if
I ever do, I'm always of the opinion that if
I joke about it being bad, bit bad bit, but
I would never do that to anyone. I would always
try to be the best audience member for a cast

(01:25:46):
member that they ever had if they were to stop
and interact with me. Sadly, the last few times I went,
that wasn't really ever a possibility because I never saw
a character wall I walked around the entire festival.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Yeah, we've talked about that before on this episode or
on this not on this episode, but on this series
quite a lot. Yeah, but you know, I look forward
to reading reviews about people who do this. Yeah, because again,
I think it's a very cool idea. I think it's
a super cool idea, and I hope. I hope that
it is as accessible as I hope it is. Yes

(01:26:22):
for people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Yes, And that's a good place for us to wrap
this up because it again was supposed to be a
short episode and ends up being one of our longest.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Ever, longest ever. Who boy, you're not kidding? Well, uh,
we don't like we don't have a mash up, Jonathan,
Do you want to tell them how to get in.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Touch with us? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
So you just want to skip it tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
No, no, no, no, no. They need to know, they
need to know. So what you're going to have to do,
what you're going to have to do in order to
get in touch with me and ask me your question is,
I don't care if you have to move mountains. You've
got to get a scheduled high with me and Florence Pugh.
This has to happen if you are Florence Pew. This

(01:27:06):
is gonna be way easier if you're not Florence Peugh.
I recognize this is a challenge, but you need to
arrange a high tea and it has to be between
me and Florence Pew as we sit and drink tea
and eat eat sandwiches and just chat about whatever it
is we want to chat about, that is required. And

(01:27:27):
once you do that, and once I'm done, you know,
paying for it and leaving a tip. I'm not asking
you to pay for it. I'm asking you to actually
make it happen. Then you can ask me whatever the
heck you want. It doesn't even have to be about
the show. It can be anything, and I'll give you
the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Yeah. And if the closest you want to get to
high tea with Florence Pugh is watching her do that
with lad Bible, then you can reach out to us
on social media on Facebook, which I don't know why
that would be the closest you'd want to get to
high t fourth Pew. She seems really cool, but regardless,
you can reach out to us on social media on
Facebook and Instagram and Discord and threads. We are Large

(01:28:02):
Nurdron Collider on Twitter, slash x. We are llc Underscore Podcast.
All of our show notes will be up on our
website www dot Large nurdron Collider dot com. Hey, surprise everybody,
it's actually up to date exception of this episode if
you're listening, probably because it takes me a little bit
to get it up after it airs. The discord invite
is also there, or you can email us at large

(01:28:23):
Neurdrum Pod at gmail dot com. We love hearing from you,
We love that you listen. Thank you for being a
part of our geeky family. And until next time. I
am Ariel, these balloons cannot hold me Caston.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
And I am Jonathan Florence Pugh call me. Everyone else
goes to voicemail Strickland.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
I go to voicemail Chuck, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
The Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
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