The Made Up Adventures of the LNC

We talk about how casting directors deserve recognition, we wonder how a sequel to a low budget horror exploitation flick actually looks like a real movie, and we can't wait to see what Dick Turpin was really up to. Plus lots more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Larger or Drunk Collider, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel Castin, and with me, as always, is the
ever awesome Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
My dogs are barking.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Your dog is barking, that's true.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
My dog is barking, like he started barking just as
we hit record. So we may have some Tiblet input
in this episode.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Well that's you know, I always appreciate Tibblet's opinion.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
So yeah, yeah, he's got some very strong opinions about
some of these stories that we're going to be covering today.
You know, I guess, I guess I just have a
dog who's really tapped into geek culture.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense because you're tapped
into geek.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Culture more or less.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Sometimes sometimes animals, you know, animals resemble their owners or
vice versa.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
So yeah, so, as always, we figured we'd start off
by chatting a little bit about stuff that we have,
you know, kind of experienced in the geek sphere over
the last week. Uh, you want me to go first,
You want to go first, Ariel, you can go first,
I can go first. Okay. So I binged Mister and

(01:30):
Missus Smith the series on Amazon. I saw that it
was on I was like, I'll check this out, and
I watched the whole thing, and I don't know if
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
See usually when you say I binge something and I
watched the whole thing over a week, it means that
you loved it and you couldn't put it down.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I found it really interesting, but it's so it's, first
of all, it's hard to kind of categorize Mister and Missus.
It's certainly got comedic elements to it. It's got like
a lot of comedy woven in there, but it's kind
of like sly ry comedy, not the kind of comedy

(02:12):
that makes you laugh out loud most of the time.
There's a couple of moments in a couple of episodes,
sometimes provided by a guest star like John Taturo or
Ron Pearlman. They did moments that made me kind of
actually chuckle, but otherwise it tended to be kind of
a treatment on the pitfalls of relationships. Right because the

(02:39):
whole premise of Mister and Missus Smith, the series, if
you're not familiar, is that these two people have both
interviewed with this mysterious company that operates essentially a spy service,
and each of them gets hired to become a spy.
And then they're paired together without ever having met each

(03:02):
other before, and they're they're given the aliases John and
Jane Smith. And the premise of the series as it
goes on is that these two people who had no
previous connection start to make a connection with one another
while also trying to fulfill these various jobs that they're

(03:25):
given by the agency. And it's entertaining, but it gets
super dark when it starts treating like the relationship issues,
because these are two people who are already kind of
messed up in their own ways, like the Jane has
got sociopathic tendencies and John is sort of an arrested

(03:49):
development in a way. He's a mama's boy.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
If he was an arrested development, that would be a
much funnier show. Yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
It was not like that. So anyway, I watched the
whole series. It ends on sort of a cliffhanger, like
no spoilers, but it ends in such a way where
you question whether there could be a season two. Maybe
there will be, but they're gonna have some splaining to do,

(04:18):
and I've got a terrible feeling that if they do
a season two has almost to kind of screw you
to the audience. They won't explain anything, or at least
but we'll see. Yeah. So, like, did you ever watch
Sherlock Ariel the Benedict Cumberbatch. Yeah, so you might remember

(04:40):
in Sherlock there's obviously the reference to Reichenbach Falls, where
Sherlock falls off a building and appears to die, and
then the next season he comes back and everyone thinks
they have an explanation for how he survived, but at
the end of that episode, you still don't have an
actual answer as to how he survived. That's what I'm

(05:02):
afraid they're going to do with mister and Missus Smith
begets a second season. Anyway, I watched that. I also
watched the most recent episode of night Court, which, as
we know, has the actor who played Raj in The
Big Bang Theory. He was a guest star on that episode.

(05:22):
I would say it's one of the stronger episodes of
night Court that I've seen. Still feels like a sitcom
out of time. It still feels like it belongs well
into the early nineties, but it was I think a
better episode than a lot of the other ones. And
I finally watched the horror comedy film Freaky, which is

(05:44):
the play off of like Freaky Friday, it was originally
called Freaky Friday the Thirteenth, where a high school young
woman and an aging serial killer swap bodies. Vince Vaughan
plays the aging series Real Killer. I gotta say, pretty entertaining,

(06:04):
directed by the same guy who directed the Happy Death
Day movies, and of course we've heard rumors of their
potentially being a Happy Death Day Freaky crossover in the future,
which would just be like so much meta it would
melt my brain. Anyway, that was what I experienced this week.

(06:25):
Still haven't watched a second episode of True Detective season four.
Still haven't gotten there yet.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
So I also watched Night Court. I am not caught up,
but I did watch the episode with Knell and I
are guest starring in it, and I agree with you,
I feel like a lot of the jokes landed better
they felt. Some of the jokes felt very forced and
some felt very natural, And once it felt natural, I
laughed a lot, and Canell Nyer is a great actor,

(06:54):
and Melissa, I think is yeah, is a great actress.
I feel like the fault in the show, it does
feel out of time, and I feel like part of
it is like their characters oftentimes are unbelievable as human beings.
Like Kanell Nyer's character, Raja's character. He played it very well,

(07:18):
but it was he played a fashion designer during fashion week,
but he was so out there that it was hard
to believe that that was a real human. I don't
know if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I mean, yeah, nightcoret has always featured cartoonish characters, right,
Like I always think of Brent Spiner's character on the
original run of night Court, where he plays like the
hillbilly character who something terrible has always happened to his family. Hello, Honor.
It's a that character. So that's kind of a staple

(07:53):
for night Court. Yeah, so I totally get it, Like
anytime you're going to have a night Court episode, most
of the guest appearances or incidental characters are going to
come across as being cartoon because that's night Court.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah. That episode also had Jennifer Lewis in it, who
has done many prolific things, but I think most people
will probably know her as the grandma in Blackish. She's phenomenal,
so she was also great. I also finished the season
one of Percy Jackson. I say that there's only one
season of it out right now, but I suspect there'll

(08:29):
be a second, and I loved the ending. I feel
like if Percy Jackson had been out when I was
a child, I might have been more into that than
Peter Pan, because it really left me with this feeling
of wonder, like I could be the kid of a
Greek god. But it also was more true to Greek
mythology than like Disney's Hercules was, which is not a

(08:49):
hard thing to do, not a high bar. Yeah, although
I will say I don't think this is a spoiler,
and if it is, we'll beep it out. In the
last episode ode, one of the characters says that they're
being taken to Disney World as a part of their
foray into the human side of the world of things

(09:10):
and doesn't understand what it is, and she's like, what
do I need to do? And Percy's like, you just
need to be a kid, and I'm like, Disney, way
to put a Disney commercial in your own Disney show.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah right, I heard you like Disney, so I put
Disney in your Disney.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
But I thought, you know, the show was very well done.
I watched it because my one of my nephews is
super into Greek mythology and I was too as a kid.
Like it's it's not super kid friendly, but it is
super kid interesting. I would say, sure.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean, like, like, you got to think about some
of the stuff that came out when we grew up.
I think as we get turned into adults, we start
to misjudge what kids are capable of watching. Because when
I look back at the stuff I watched as a kid,
I'm like, you know what, I don't give kids enough
credit because I turned out okay, and look at some
of the stuff I watched.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's true. I mean, it's it's very true. Some of
it maybe is stuff we shouldn't have watched as kids,
that's a whole conversation in and of itself, you know,
But some of it is stuff that, like we can actually,
you know, depending on the child's maturity, they can comprehend
and understand and understand the right and the wrong in
a situation. Because Greek God certainly did some wrong stuff

(10:26):
in the mythology.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, now more often they did wrong stuff
than they did right stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah yeah. But you know, also there's stuff I watched
as a kid that when I watch now, I'm like,
I watched that as a kid, because it just went
over my head. That being said, I didn't think I
would like Percy Jackson. I actually really enjoyed it. I
look forward to a second season. I will watch it.
You know. It helps that there were so many like
hard hitting guest stars in the show, just a really

(10:54):
phenomenal cast. And you know, I'm still watching season one
of True Detective. I know you are. You have watched
season three, and you've only watched part of season two,
and you've only watched the beginning of season four. But
does it keep like a supernatural bent through the anthology series.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
No, no, I can say that so season one has
hints of the supernatural, although you can. I don't want
to spoil it for you. But you're often left wondering
is there actual supernatural stuff going on? Or is it
merely that the perception of all these characters is such

(11:32):
that they can't be certain? Right?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, I mean I know enough about season one to
know that that's like I know who the villain is.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, So season two there's no supernatural element to it,
Like it's not supernatural. It's more like politics and organized crime.
That's kind of the element for season two, which honestly,
at first I kind of liked because I felt that
it was more grounded until you get half way through
the season when it just goes bonkers, and then I

(12:06):
kind of I did watch all of season two, more
or less. I think I scrubbed through a couple of
episodes toward the end because I just was losing patience
with it. But I wanted to see like the really
important scenes, so I did that. Did not watch season
three at all. Don't know anything about it really. Season four,

(12:27):
from what I've heard, I've only, like I said, I've
only seen the first episode. But from what I've heard
season four, it does go back to that supernatural element
that season one had, but cranks it up like in
that first episode of season four. If there's not something
supernatural going on, I don't understand what the reasoning could

(12:48):
be for some of the stuff that happens. Right Like,
it's like it doesn't make sense for this to happen
in the real world, so there has to be a
supernatural element.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
The trailer gave me like a very Mountains of Madness
sort of a vibe.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Oh no, it's got a very Lovecraftian kind of feel.
But I mean that's because again it's it's also touching
on the work of Robert Chambers, who was a contemporary
of HP Lovecrafts.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah. Yeah, well the first and the fourth episodes, maybe
not the second and third.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, first and fourth seasons, yes, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Which is a little sad to say, because, like I
was talking with Tony, who has watched both some of
Fargo season one with me and some of and has
watched what we've seen of True Detective season one with me.
He's not big into like police procedural shows in general,
and but he likes True Detective better than Fargo because

(13:40):
True Detective, even though the situation seems maybe possible supernatural
as opposed to just people doing crappy stuff, the characters
feel more real. But it is that supernatural bet that
I think is also keeping him interested.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
So the characters feel more real, except I don't think
mc connaugh seems real. He's great, he's fantastic. He's doing
an amazing performance. He does not seem like a real person.
He seems like like the kind of person a writer creates.
He doesn't seem like someone you would actually encounter.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
He seems like the protagonist of of a Cathulian novel,
Like he's he's already lost his mind slightly. So I
get that, but I find his I find his performance
believable in the character that he's playing. Whereas like Fargo,
the performances are phenomenal, the actors are great, but they
are all kind of like characters instead of people, not

(14:38):
all of them, some of them are people, but it
is it is, you know, a coin style of zany dryness,
dry zaniness. There we go. That's a it's a little
harder to put into the real world, even though it
could be because they're they're you know, stereotypes and stuff.
So that's what I've I've been watching. I mean, I'm

(15:01):
gonna be real honest, Like, we're going through the shows
that I've started keeping a list of all the shows
that we say we want to watch and all the
movies that we say we want to watch. So when
we hit a point where like, what do we want
to watch. I start like, I pull a chunk of
that list up, I'm like, let's pick one of these.
There's a bunch of stuff missing from it. It's a
work in progress. But that's where we are now. While
I wait for The Last Airbender to come out, while

(15:22):
I wait for Life and Beth Season two to come out,
which is a wonderful show. There's a couple other shows
that are coming out in February, Showgun, which we're going
to talk about, and like The Bear Season three just
started filming, so that's a why ways away, but I'm
looking forward to. So, yeah, I'm just biting time right now.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Sure. Well, and I'm just the kind of person who
I have to be in the right mental space to
watch something new, and I'm far more likely I'm one
of those folks who is really guilty of going back
and watching something I've seen a billion times before rather
than committing to a new thing.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
There's there's a comfort in that, and also there's a
lack of commitment. You don't have to commit time because
if you need to stop in the middle of it,
you've already seen it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Or even just have it go while you're no longer
paying direct attention to it. Yeah, all right, well.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Sorry, one more thing. We did try to watch Spider
Man Across the Universe over the weekend, but we had
to stop it because I got a last minute called
to be on set for something and I had to.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Prepare for that.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
So that will be the next geeky thing that I watched,
probably this weekend.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, I'm not sure what will be the next thing
for me. It'll largely depend upon my schedule coming up
over the next few days. Got a medical procedure I
get to have on Monday, so that's always gonna be fun.
So we'll see. Maybe maybe Tuesday, I'll just be like,
all right, I don't want to do anything else except
watch like stuff that I've been missing out on. Yeah,

(16:56):
but that kind of wraps up the what we've been
into recently. Now, why don't we jump on over to
thirty seconds or less?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Sounds good and you start this week?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yep, here we go. Universal has announced that the next
Jurassic World film is due out in twenty twenty five,
so I guess it's a good thing that they're currently
in talks with David Leitch, the director of Bullet Train
and many more films. To direct it. I mean, y'all,
announcing a movie a year out before there's a director
is something. The film is supposed to launch a quote

(17:30):
new Jurassic era end quote, which seems like a contradiction
in terms to me, and it might mean that Owen
thunder Guns isn't going to be in it.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay, let's strive yet more. Next, Birds and Co Production
has gotten rights to make a movie of Jimmy Stewart's life,
James Stewart. They're working with his daughter, Kelly Stuart Harcourt.
You know, obviously there's there's Jimmy Stewart had an interesting life.

(18:03):
You want an oscar and then he joined the Air
Corps and then he came back and needed It's a
wonderful life. But it seems like this story will really
focus on a bunch of positive stuff and be like
an uplifting, sort of heartwarming review of his life.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Hey, do you want more Game of Thrones? Too bad,
You're getting it anyway. That's right. Expect another Game of
Thrones prequel spinoff series coming your way in the near future.
This one is reported to focus on Agin's conquest or
Edgen's conquest as an edgend targarian who united six kingdoms
under the Iron Throne. So this happens ages before the

(18:43):
events of the original series. Here there will be dragons,
but there will not be Jonathan because I'm out.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I almost made a very inappropriate comment. But we keep
this show fairly family friendly, so I will withhold. Are
you old enough to remember Robby and Michelle's high school Reunion,
a story about two women who are super awkward but
totally ruled their high school reunion. Well, if you are,

(19:11):
you might be a cult fan of it, because I
don't know. I watched the movie and I feel like
it's a cult kind of movie. Anyhow, they're making a
sequel that will probably be like the fortieth High School
Reunion of Romy and Michelle with Mira Sorvino and Lisa Kudro.
So it's making its rounds right now, like Alan Cummings

(19:31):
is coming to Atlanta to do a Q and A
while they reshow it. So that's super interesting, huh. Well,
following the delightful Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Mutant Mayhem Animated
Film is an upcoming animated series launching on Paramount Plus
this summer, and it's called Tales of the teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles, and like Newton Mayhem, it comes out of

(19:54):
Seth Rogan's studio. There's a teaser trailer that's out now
and it has much of the same charm and humor
as the film, but with a noticeable step down in
animation quality. That's super cool. Okay, Next, it's about ding
daying time. In twenty twenty five, we are going to

(20:14):
or maybe I guess in twenty twenty six, we're going
to have a new category at the Oscars, which is
Best Achievements in Casting. It's really about time that casting
directors kind of get nods for the work they do.
It is long and hard, like now being in the
active world, it's long and hard work. And you know,

(20:37):
casting makes a movie or a television show, so they
definitely should be able to get their props. I know
there are other awards that acknowledge them, but I'm glad
that the Oscars are doing it too.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah. I mean, I know it's thirty seconds or less,
but if I may, yes digress just a bit. Yeah,
you can tell because there are films out there where
the casting was so difficult that the film famously had
to recast someone after things got started, because even during casting,

(21:12):
you might think, oh, all the pieces are there, only
to find out when you're actually shooting the film that, oh,
the pieces don't fit together the way I thought. So
that happened on Back to the Future, it happened on
The Lord of the Rings movies, like, casting directors have
a very tough job, and when they do their job
well and you get an incredible ensemble that can really

(21:34):
turn a film into something truly special.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, and if sary and maybe we should have put
this in the conversation part. You know, I part of
my job as an actor is continued education. Like you
should always be working, and if you're not working on
a project, you should be doing education. You should be
practicing your acting, you should be taking classes, you should
be doing workshops and connecting with casting directors. So I
sit on a lot of workshops and calls and like

(21:58):
lectures from casting directors. I listen to them speak a lot,
and the numbers that they have to go through, Like
if you figure they'll get like tens of thousands of
submissions for a role like less if it's a very
specific role, but you know, for a generic role of
like a nurse, too, right, They have to cast that

(22:20):
and they might get tens of thousands of submissions, and
from that they might have to pick hundreds of people,
and then they have to watch all those people and
knock it down to less and then they have to
deal with the people who say they're going to audition
but don't put stuff in. It's a lot of work
and they work all the time.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, And on top of that, they also have to
deal with studio politics, right, because there are times where
the casting director might say, oh, I've seen an audition
that's perfect for this part, but the studio is like, no,
we want someone who's bankable, right, we want someone who's
a box office draw. And even if they're not right
for the movie, they're the one that you have to catch. Like,

(22:56):
It's just there's so many different elements that they have
to deal with.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, I have to fit within budgets. And that's hard too,
because you want to make sure that you're making both
the actor, that both the actors and the studios are
getting a fair deal. And while they may not set
those budgets, you know, that's a lot of it's a
lot of work anyhow, they deserve it. I'm super excited.
I know that a lot of casting directors have been
wanting this for a while, a lot of actors have
been wanting this for a while, So I'm super super excited.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Okay, well, I apologize for completely derailing that thirty seconds,
but we still got some more. So here's the next one.
So we got a trailer for an upcoming horror film
called Late Night with the Devil, and it tells the
story of a fictional late night talk show that makes
the very poor decision of bringing on an apparently possessed
young woman who belonged to a satanic cult on the show,

(23:41):
and then hilarity ensues. The trailer evokes a sort of
early nineteen seventies feeling. I know it's supposed to be
set in seventy seven, but it feels early seventies to me.
And it comes to theaters on March twenty second, and
I did not make Ariel watch it.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Thank you. I you know, I trust you. If you
say it's one I could handle or not, I.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Think you probably could. But it was you know, I
didn't feel the need to inflict it on you.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that I love the one
that you did inflict on me this week?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, that one was so dumb, but we'll get to it.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yes for sure. Sure, So sometimes life imitates art and
art imitates life. And I'm asking myself if Christian Bale
is actually Batman, because right now he's building twelve foster
homes in California to help children who don't have other
homes stay together with their siblings and also get prepared

(24:36):
for moving into the real world. He credits his father,
who is very big into philanthropic works, and I think
it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
That is really cool. Good for him. All right, this
is going to sound familiar, but just stick with me.
We got a trailer for an upcoming horror called night Shift.
This is not the nineteen eighty two night Shift with
Henry Winkler. This blunt stars Phoebe Tonkin as Gwynn Taylor,
a young woman who takes on a gig as a
night shift manager of a creepy motel. But then she

(25:09):
finds out the motel is way more than just creepy
because threats, supernatural and otherwise begin to pop up. It
looks really atmospheric. The trailer has a nineteen seventies vibe
to it. What is going on, and I didn't make
Ariel watch this one either.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I feel bad for making you watch these alone now,
like the grass is always on the other side.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I love horror movies though, so it doesn't bother me.
I also think you can handle this one, honestly, but
it was one of those things where it's like, I
don't want to load our whole run down with horror
movie trailers.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I appreciate that, you know. Honestly, I was debating on
if I watched The Shining because I do feel like
that is a horror movie that I need to watch
just for cultural significance, whether I should do the Kubrick
movie or I should watch the television mini series.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You should watch the Kubrick movie. Do not watch the
televid It is so.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Bad, Okay, but it's closer to the book from what
I understand.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yes, it's closer to the book, but that doesn't make
it good. Just because it's closer to what Stephen King
wrote doesn't mean it's good. Awesome. The kid, the kid
in the TV series, Oh my god, I could not
stand him.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Gotcha, gotcha? I have Well, we'll see there. There are
certain movies that are hard for me.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
To watch.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I know this is three seconds or lesser failing because
I know, like like the shining will be hard for
me to watch beyond the subject matter, because I know
how crappy Kubrick was to the act god Shelley Devall.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, famously horrible to her.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, which you know, there are some actors who are
method who don't mind being brought to a place, but
that should be a conversation with a director and an actor.
It should be like a consensual sort of a thing.
It's you know, like Copper from Stranger Things was talking
on a hot One's thing, like if he's gonna be
mad at somebody, he wants to get mad at them.
He doesn't stay mad at them, but like he wants

(27:07):
that emotion to be real. That's a very method actor thing.
But he had buy in with his co actors on it,
who are like, yeah, I'm cool getting there with you
and then stepping away. You know, what Koprich did was abuse,
and that's not a Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
There are a lot of filmmakers in the seventies who
were extremely cavalier in how they would get their actors
to be in the right place emotionally. I mean, you'll
hear stories about directors who did things like fire prop
guns near their actors in order to get them unsettled.
If you ever read what the Actress at the beginning

(27:44):
of Jaws, there's an actress, a character who swims out
into the ocean and she's the first one to get
attacked by the shark. And you never really see the shark,
but you see what happens to her. If you hear
about how they achieved the effects of her getting jerked
around in the water, it's sounds like something that would
qualify as torture. So, yeah, it's it's a very Yeah.

(28:09):
I totally get the reticence to watch the shining knowing
the kind of trauma that was visited upon actors in
order to get the performances.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Well, it's like you never want to know how the
sausage is made, you know, I would have issues. I
would have a silly I don't know, it's probably not silly.
I would have issues watching Apocalypse Now because of one
of the scenes that they filmed and knowing that it's
real and then yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
You're talking about an animal death scene.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yes, yes, yes, even though now understanding kind of the
situation behind it, it's a little less horrific, but it's
still horrific to me. I wouldn't want to watch it, right,
and then like watching The Crow, which I love the
movie The Crow, but knowing that Brandon Lee got shot
and killed in that movie makes it a lot harder
to watch.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
So yeah, yeah, Well, we still got a couple more
thirty seconds or less that we got to go through,
and then maybe we'll actually have discussions that we intended
to be discussions.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, okay, So, speaking of horror movies, Ghostbusters is getting
a popcorn bucket that is not as creepy as the
Dude popcorn bucket. I'll let you guess which one I
think is a horror movie.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I have not seen either of these popcorn buckets, so
I don't even know why talking about it.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
So, the AMC does these themed popcorn buckets, and for
Dungeons and Dragons it was a D twenty, which is
really cool. Some of our friends actually took them in
turn them into like lighting fixtures or whatnot. Fordune, there's
an entire SNL skit about it. It's a sandworm coming
out and you reach into the sandworm's mouth, to a
sandworm's mouth to get the popcorn and it's really inappropriate.

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After Midnight does a bunch of jokes about it as well,
and then the new one for Ghostbusters Frozen Empire is
a ghost trap, so the actual bucket is like the
b coming out of the ghost trap with the popcorn
in that it looks really cool. I'm actually probably gonna
buy one of these, regardless of how I feel about

(30:08):
the movie, which I'm excited to watch. But even if
I weren't, I would be buying one of these because.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
It's just too cool. I got too much junk in
my house. I cannot get more junk. But let's move on.
So finally, Sony is making life harder on anime fans.
The company is sunsetting the Fundamation streaming service in April
and they're merging it into crunchy Role. But more than that,
Fundomation users who had purchased streaming titles are going to

(30:36):
lose access to those streaming titles in this merger because
crunchy roll does not have a similar service. So these
digital copies that they were supposed to be able to
own quote unquote forever are going away because forever it
doesn't last that long, I guess. Plus they'll have to
pay more because Sony plans to hike Crunchy Role subscription
fees starting next year. Ouch.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, that is ouch indeed. And finally we're at our
end of thirty seconds or ten minutes or.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Less, yeah, depend on depending on the topic. And now
we can talk about the stuff what we put aside
for the actual episodes, one of which is that so
we're recording this the weekend of the superb Owl, which
is going to come out and tell us whether or
not we have six more weeks of winter on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I thought it told us whether we had six more
weeks of football.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, maybe you're right, Ariel. Yeah, so we're talking about
the big Game, right, the Big Game or the superb
Owl that typically is marked by a couple of things.
Usually it's a disappointing football game and a whole bunch
of commercials. And one of the things we've been keeping
an eye on is rumored ads that we might see,

(31:55):
like movie trailers that we may very well see as
the game plays out. These include there's a suspected Deadpool
three trailer that would play a trailer for Wicked, maybe
a trailer for Quiet Place. But we did get a
Quiet Place trailer already online and perhaps some other trailers

(32:17):
coming out as well. But again, like some of these
trailers have come out this week, and sometimes that happens, right,
Sometimes we get like stuff coming out before the super
Bowl comes out because apparently now it's good to have
super Bowl ads shown before the super Bowl, even I
don't understand how it all works. But yeah, once again,

(32:39):
it looks like we're going to get a lot of
different geeky movie trailers plus all the other a silly
and not so silly commercials that come out on your
typical Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, yeah, I try to avoid them. I know that
there's a Patrick Stewart Hey Arnold commercial out there and
I haven't watched it yet because I'm they're going to
show this during the super Bowl, and even though it's
been out well before, I want to watch it during
the super Bowl. When I watched Super Bowl because I
sometimes like watching football games if it's a good game.

(33:10):
But there was one commercial I watched last night that
popped up on YouTube. It was a Groundhog Day Lay's commercial.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Have you seen this, Jonathan, No, I don't watch commercials, Ariel.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
It's well, I watched them on you I choose, I
choose to watch them. And also, like a lot of
streaming services are putting in commercials now into like our
lowest tier of subscription.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
And that's true, and you can't avoid that, right Like
if Amazon does it, Peacock does it.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Sure, Yeah, So I understand that that sucks for a
lot of people who don't want commercials, but also if
you want a lower cost of watching your show and
they aren't making money, this is a way for them
to try to keep that going. So lower cost equals commercials.
That's just how you fund a television. It stinks, but like,
I'm not surprised and I'm not mad, honestly, but I
also audition for commercials, so you know. But I opted

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to watch this one on YouTube. It was a Lays
did a Groundhog Day commercial with Steven Tobolowski, who was
in Groundhog's Day.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yes, yes, And I was like.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Oh no, this is a Super Bowl commercial. I can't
watch it. It's not it came out on Groundhog's Day.
But it's like a three minute commercial because it just
keeps happening over and over with each time with a
different Lays flavor, and it's him in a grocery store
checking out with the grocery attendant. Uh. And and it's

(34:28):
it's very funny, is what I'll say.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I say, does they say bang?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
He might? I don't know. He's playing like Murray's type
of character in it, right, But it's delightful. I would
suggest watching that commercial. It was fun, but I was
really afraid turning it on that it was a Super
Bowl commercial. But I thought it was funnier that it
came out on Groundhog's Day to celebrate celebrate Groundhog's Day.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well, yeah, so so we're we'll keep an eye out
because obviously we'll probably talk about some of these trailers
in the next step of large Nerdron Collider. Like I
am definitely, I definitely want to see the Deadpool three trailer.
I'm the closer we get to Wicked being a thing,
the less excited I am about it. So I guess

(35:16):
I'm a little curious about it. But I don't know.
I'm not getting a super good feeling about the Wicked film.
I mean, the fact that they decided to divide it
into two movies really bugs me.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, because the stage play isn't long enough to be
two movies, is it.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, but the Hobbit wasn't long enough to be three
movies and they still did it.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's true, that's true. Yeah, that makes me less excited. Also,
the hit or miss with movie musicals turning musicals into movies, like,
it's hard to get that same magic. It's not impossible,
but it is hard.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah. You can, like, for every Little Shop of Horrors,
which I think, like, you can argue it's a very
campy movie, and it is, but I think it's a
successful movie musical. For every one of those, you end
up with something like Rent, which was not a success,
or Mean Girls, which recently came out and a lot

(36:13):
of people who are fans of the stage musical absolutely
hated it. For the record, I have not seen the
film version. I've seen some of the musical numbers that
were released as YouTube videos, and I was not a fan.
But again, sometimes you just say, you know what, this
was really better suited for a different medium and there

(36:34):
just was no need to transport it to this one,
and that's why it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, I feel like, especially with stuff like Mean Girls,
I get, which I haven't seen as well, but some
of those you have to lean into the camp in
a way that you normally wouldn't on camera because it
becomes less believable. But like, the musicals that I think
really hit the mark are things like Little Shop of

(37:00):
Horrors or Producers or ABC's Once Upon a Mattress with
Tracy Ullman.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, or Cats. You know Cats really.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
The PBS version of Cats, the PBS version of Into
the Woods, and the PBS version of Joseph in the
Amazing Technicolor dream Coat. Those are all fine.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
The film version of Cats leaned super hard into the
camp and it turns out you can make that mistake too.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, but they put buttoles on the Cats.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
They know they didn't. They didn't. There is not a
butthole edit. What they what they did was they put
buttholes in the cast. There were a couple of buttholes
in that cast, James Corden, So.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I just yeah, I the PBS version of Cats. I
watched ad Nauseum, which was just a recorded stage version
basically like I watched that NonStop. I love recorded stage
versions of shows, even if they end up being a
different experience from actually going to see it in person.
It's just it's really cool.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, I like them. It's weird when I watch a
filmed version of a stage production where they take advantage
of being able to have different camera angles and stuff,
because that actually takes me out of it, because I'm like,
I have never been in a theater where they just
let me get up out of my seat and run
across to the other side of the theater and sit

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down in a new seat and watch the stage from
that side.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I have been, but I was the stage manager at
the time.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh, and there was no one watching the show. I mean,
come on, I.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Mean there were Okay, so didn't run around the stage,
but would run around backstage to another seat and sit
on the other seat from the wings.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah. I did that as an actor multiple times. But
that doesn't like count. Okay, tell you what. Let's talk
about something else. Let's talk about Avatar the Last Airbender.
You mentioned that you were looking forward to this, and
we even got a little bit of an additional tease
of the upcoming Netflix series, the live action remake of

(39:00):
Avatar the Last Airbender, which to the I still say
looks like it's pretty faithful to the original source material
and also looks charming.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
It does, and like I so, I liked Avatar the
Last Airbender I'm not as like as huge of a
fan as, let's say, like your partner is, but I
really liked it. And when I watched these little clips
of these trailers, I just feel like I'm I'm watching

(39:32):
a yes and version of the cartoon in the best way.
Like the characters feel very true to the characters in
the cartoon, and they look similar, but it's it doesn't
feel like they're being campy or cartoon ish. And this
latest trailer shows I think her name is grand Grand

(39:52):
she's the grandmother of the Water tribe talking about Aang
and we get to see a little bit more of
his personality and I just think it's all spot on.
I'm very excited. I hope this does well. The other
day on TikTok, I saw Daniel day Kim read thirst
tweets about his Fire Nation character. He was also on Lost,
but it took me to watching that thirst tweet TikTok

(40:14):
video to realize that he was the same actor. And
it was very funny because like one of them was
like I would let him burn me and he's like, well,
that's the point. The villain he's from the Fire Nation,
So the cast kind of like with one piece. The
cast all looks like they're having a lot of fun
with it, and I like the little behind the scenes
peaks that Netflix is giving us because you want a

(40:37):
show to be as fun to make as it is
to watch, or vice versa.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
So yeah, I will say like the bits I've seen,
especially with Ayang, make it look like like he's genuinely
having a good time, and if he's not, he's a
very good actor to make it appear that he is.
Like it. Just again, it kind of comes across as
that wide eye, ready for adventure kind of spirit that

(41:04):
you would associate with the character, and it really is
coming through, at least in these trailers and teasers. And
it kind of comes back around to that earlier discussion
we had about how casting directors have a really important
job because if they had picked different actors, you might
not have gotten that same sort of spirit to come
through in the performance. And again, I'm judging things on

(41:28):
trailers and teasers, and it's the job of the people
who cut the trailers to get the best possible stuff
to represent the series to convince people to watch it.
So maybe when I see the series, I won't feel
the same way. But based on everything I've seen so far,
it's been really encouraging.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, based on what you've seen so far of the
new Showgun TV series, what do you think of that.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I haven't watched it because you wrote long in the
notes and I was running out of time, so I
skipped it.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Gotcha, So is making a television show called Showgun, which
if that sounds familiar, because there was I think an
old movie or television show called Showgun.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yes, I believe.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
So it looks beautiful that the sneak peak is like
five minutes long, maybe longer, so it is a long
sneak peek. The showrunner, Justin Marx, says that the core
theme of the show is agency and control over the
path of one's fate. But this is another one. We're

(42:32):
listening to the actors talk about the experience of making
it and the importance of making it and of all
of these cultures like coming together and finding understanding is
really cool. I don't think I watched the old Showgun,
but I am very much looking forward to this one.
I hope they do a really good job of it.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I saw the pictures and the you know, the art direction,
the costuming, that kind of stuff. Looks really really good.
So while I have not yet watched the first look,
which you know, maybe one twentieth of the entire thing,
I did take a look and scrolled through and looked

(43:13):
at some of the images and stuff and read up
on some of the things. So it does definitely look
like it'll be like it looks to me like the
kind of thing that's been cared for, like there's been
a lot of attention to detail, right, not something that's
just sort of thrown together. Sometimes I get a little
antsy about these kinds of projects because so often the

(43:34):
version we get here in America is sort of the
White Savior kind of approach, right, Like it's Tom Cruise,
who's there to show all these samurai how they can
be real good at what they do. And I'm like,
it doesn't feel good.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah, yeah, which was my concern with this too. But
it doesn't feel like that's going to be the case
that that's good. It's I think it's like a reporter
who goes to Japan, I think. But I've been looking.
I've been reading a lot of stuff this week, so
my brain is not retaining at all, but it feels

(44:15):
I hope it's not a White Savior story. It doesn't
feel like that from the There are additional trailers about
it that are not five minutes long. If you are
so inclined at some.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Point, yeah, I will definitely check at least one of
those out. Next up, we've got a story about Xbox
and it's it's from Kotaku, and the Kotaku piece is
largely kind of talking about a particular subculture of Xbox fans,
like the hardcore hardcore Xbox like devoted. They're essentially referred

(44:51):
to in the piece as like a cult, and these
are the kind of folks who they don't like any
deviation from suggest that Xbox is the end all be
all of video games, or at least console video games.
And I have met people who are like that, both
both in the Xbox camp or the PlayStation camp or
the Nintendo camp or sometimes you know, like people joke

(45:14):
PC Master Race, like that's a whole reference to that
kind of called. Personally, I'm like, whatever consoles got the title,
and it's fun to play, That's what I like. But
the whole point of the story is that Xbox is
looking to potentially take some titles that used to be

(45:35):
Xbox exclusive and to open them up for other platforms.
And apparently some people in these groups are like, this
is gonna be the end of Xbox. You're giving away
exclusivity and now Xbox doesn't mean anything, and I'm just like,
grow up.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I could have picked a more
impartial article on it to talk about, but I do
think it's important to also kind of acknowledge that there
are people who are super exclusive about stuff like that,
and honestly, I prefer things that are cross platform me too.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
And I mean we also understand, like Microsoft just recently
acquired Activision Blizzard, and part of that acquisition was Microsoft
bending over backwards to promise that it wasn't going to
turn all the Activision Blizzard titles into Xbox exclusives that
would not run on other platforms. Otherwise they were not
going to be allowed to have that acquisition go through.

(46:35):
So in some ways you can say, like, well, Microsoft
has an incentive to make sure they're not locking everything
behind exclusivity. And I get how exclusive titles can make
a console seem superior or special. I understand that, but
like you, Ariel, I much prefer things that are cross platforms,

(46:57):
so that I can play on whichever platform I prefer,
as opposed to being forced to stick with a specific
platform if I want to experience that particular title.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
And I know some people prefer Xbox because they don't
like some of the things that's PlayStation has done, like
with Sony and taking digitally bought media off and you know,
they almost made it unavailable we talked about earlier.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
So yeah, well, and I don't like I just don't
like the PlayStation controllers very much. Like they I don't
find them comfortable to hold. I prefer the Xbox controllers.
And that's it. Like, it's not that I don't It's
not that I think PlayStation gives poorer performance. I don't
believe that at all. I think PlayStation is a phenomenal

(47:42):
machine when it comes to performance. I just don't like
their controllers.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, yeah, I do prefer Xbox controllers to PlayStation controllers
personally as well. But that's partially because that's just what
I'm more familiar with.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Well, I like them. I like them because they're easier
on my knuckles, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Oh wait, you let your kidneys play with your your controllers,
your game controllers.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
No, but I like to set up stupid segues.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
For a maybe stupid show.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Maybe. Yeah, So we got a trailer for a series
that's coming out on Paramount Plus for Knuckles. It's obviously
a spin off from the Sonic movies and with intras
Elba voicing the character. Uh and this is this is
one of those trailers we heard was going to be

(48:39):
shown with the superb Owl, but I didn't know it
at the time, and I just threw it in the lineup.
I think the trailer looks like it's not for me.
I have no interest in watching it. But at the
same time, I don't didn't think it was a bad trailer.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, yeah, I said stupid, maybe because just because it
fit into the line of conversation, it actually looked a
little cute to me. It kind of looked better to
me than the Sonic movies. I haven't watched them, but
the trailer looked better than the Sonic movie trailers to me.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
So yeah, Well, and I've heard, like from lots of
people that the Sonic movies are pretty entertaining, and it's
folks that I trust, But like you, I haven't seen them.
It's again just like I haven't seen the Mario movie.
Like I didn't feel Maybe it's because I don't have kids,
but I didn't feel the poll to go see these
And I feel like these are movies that would really

(49:31):
appeal to like a family. Let's say that you've got
like maybe a ten or eleven year old, that's the
kind of movie that you might go and check out.
But as someone who has only an eight year old
dog who isn't even allowed in a movie theater, I
haven't gone to see it.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
You see, that's why he's barking. He was barking outside
at the beginning of.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
The end because I haven't taken him to see Mario
or Sonic.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yes, that is exactly why I don't I have But
he's being quiet now. So we should next talk about
the trailer for A Quiet Place dat one.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yes, that's where Tibble is right now. He's in a
quiet place.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
No, I hope a quiet place, not the A.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Quiet Place now? Yeah, not via quiet Place. Yeah. So
we got a teaser for a Quiet Place day one,
And obviously this is another entry into the Quiet Place series,
this one being telling the story of what was happening
the day that the alien Menace came to Earth and

(50:37):
began to absolutely wreck shop as far as humanity is concerned,
and I thought the trailer looked pretty intense and interesting,
like like I've only I've only seen clips of the
first A Quiet Place because I never sat down to
watch the whole thing, and maybe someday I will, because

(51:00):
the bits I saw were interesting. I had some issues
because you know, it was just movie logic stuff that
shouldn't bother me, but my brain is stupid, so sometimes
it does. But it's still I could recognize that, Oh,
there's a lot of care that went into making this,
and this looks like it's a much bigger scale movie

(51:21):
because obviously, in The Quiet Place, the original one fairly
small cast, not a bunch of huge set pieces, but
this one obviously has to have some big set pieces
to show the devastation that happens when the Aliens first hit.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yeah. I watched the First Quiet Place and I enjoyed it,
plot logicals aside, because I can watch a movie and
just enjoy it and then think about it later and
be like that's done. That's how I watched Titanic. Yeah,
but I didn't watch the second one, not out of
lack of interest, just I haven't gotten around to it.
A Quiet Place Day one. The trailer feels very like

(51:58):
it feels like clover Field to me.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
But I probably will not watch a Quiet Place Day
one because it starts off with the main character carrying
around a kitty cat, and that's just.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
And you don't see the kitty cat after that moment.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
You do, you do? Okay, She's like in a bunker
or a tunnel or something like that with another person
and she's holding the cat. But there are definitely scenes
where you don't see it, which means that my pet
anxiety will be all over the board.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Let me tell you this, Ariel, you do not want
to watch Mister and Missus Smith, Okay, because there's there's
a kitty cat who meets an unfortunate fate.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Kitty Cat introduced an episode one Kitty Cat not in
the end of episode eight.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Got you look. I watched the second season of Wheel
of Time as a group watch with my friends, which
I never read the books, and it was very hard
to follow. But there was also some animal cruelty in that,
and I yelled at my friends for not warning me.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I was really I was really upset at the series, okay,
because I felt that it was a very cheap thing
to do, and at the same time, it was like
it also illustrates you. Remember I mentioned that one of
the characters sort of has sociopathic tendencies. I would argue
it sort of reinforces that because this character, who is

(53:29):
the owner of said kat, is upset but not devastated.
And I'm like, y'all, if anything ever happens to one
of my pets, I am inconsolable.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go hug my three
little fur balls when I'm done with this. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Well, anyway, I think I think the trailer for Quiet
Place Day one, I mean, it looks intense and it
looks like it looked like it it's well made, Like
I mean, obviously I don't know enough of the story,
but it definitely looks like it's gonna be a pretty

(54:07):
incredible experience if you go and see it in a theater.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, what do you feel about the teaser
for mo Wana too?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Not much, because there's not much to the teaser. You
see a silhouetted mowana with a conk shell on a beach,
and she blows into the conk shell and then it
shows the title card for mo Wana Too, and then
you hear presumably Maui making a laughing noise, and then
it's over and it tells you it's coming out in November.

(54:37):
The thing that was surprising to me was that I
had not heard anything about a Mowana sequel until that
teaser came out.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, I feel like I might have heard speculation, and
it completely left my brain after I heard it. Do
I think there needs to be a Mowana Too? Eh?

Speaker 2 (54:59):
I don't know that there needs Okay, I think there's
two opinions I have about whether or not there needs
to be from a story element. I don't think there
needs to be one at all from a Disney is
in trouble because their movies have been sucking recently. They're
having a real issue with box office. I think Disney
absolutely needs a Mawana two.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
But is that the right path to go. Shouldn't they
do something better but more original?

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I mean, they tried and no one went to see
those movies, right, Like, Yeah, what was it? The It's
not Strange New Worlds because that's the star Trek Strange Worlds,
Strange Worlds, Strange Worlds like came Out and no one
saw it.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
They also didn't advertise it.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Well, that's true, but the point being that, you know,
Disney has tried a couple of things and hasn't seen
a lot of success. Like you got to consider that
Disney's like not done great with Star Wars, They're flagging
with Marvel, and there are a lot of reasons for this,
I think. I think a big part of it is
that they've turned into kind of an assembly line for

(56:07):
movies where they're churning things out faster than they have
time to make sure they're good, especially from a story perspective,
story and characters perspective. They're just not doing the job
there and a lot of the stuff that they're offering
and the animation department just has Wish is another great example.

(56:28):
There's a Wish was a new film that didn't do
great for Disney either, but then a lot of people
I know who saw it said it was just mediocre.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
So it's like Elemental apparently was great, but it was
mismarketed as.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Well well because it just felt like it was a
mix between Inside Out and Zootopia to me, right, all
the ads made it feel like it was a combination
of those two movies, and then we got Inside Out
too coming Out. I don't think anyone's necessarily excited yet
about that. Maybe they will be when we get some
more trailers.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
My nieces and my niece and nephews are.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
But yeah, well you can tell him that Bing Bong
or whoever is still dead, So you can't be upset
that a character that never existed dies. He was imaginary
to start with, he never lived, So.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I don't know. Ry Ryan Reynolds in his IF movie
might disagree with you.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah, that's different, different mythology. So anyway, I don't know.
I'm not excited about Mowana too necessarily, Like I don't,
I don't really feel a desire to see it. The
fact that it's going to theaters says something, because it's
at least not a return to the era where does

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he started to churn out those directive video sequels that
were so low quality. I'm glad it's not that, But
like I said, I can understand from a corporate perspective
why they would go to that well again, because they're
desperate to find something that hits. From what I understand,
the one element of Disney that is consistently doing pretty well.

(58:10):
Is the parks and everything else is kind of in
uh sort of sort of the doldrums right now. So yeah.
I also will say that someone was making another combination
of how Mowan is coming out the same day as
something else that that like in November, and I cannot

(58:34):
remember now what the other film is, but I remember
that someone was trying to do the same sort of
thing as Barbie and Oppenheimer, where you had the Barbenheimer
and their version of the combined was m O A
n E ed, which just spells moaned and like, no,
that is not good.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
No, no, kah, is it wicked?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yes, it's Wicked and Moana, So it just came out
as moaned.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Oh gosh, oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
No, no, yeah, not good.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Nope. You know, but I get that Disney does sequels
of well done things. I don't know why they're doing
Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey too well.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Obviously that's not Disney, but that's not So here's what's crazy,
all right, Like you can tell there is a giant
jump forward in production value in this sequel.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Yes, I was gonna say the same thing, like I
was like, well, it looks like it's better made.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
It looks like it's a real movie, right the first
the first Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey just looked
like a super It looked like what it was, which
was a super duper cheap slasher film taking advantage of
an ip that was in the public domain. And that's it.
Like they were exploiting and intellectual property that they could

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exploit and then hope that that would carry it. It
was very much an Asylum Pictures kind of move. The
trailer that we got for Winnie the Pooh, Blood and
Honey too doesn't make it look good. It does not
look like a good movie, mind you, but it definitely
looks like they got a much bigger budget for this one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, I agree. Everything I've heard from the first movie
is that it like it wasn't good. It was not
good at all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
I mean, the trailer convinced me of that before. I
didn't need to see the film to get that implication.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
But it wasn't even like bad good or like Sharknado good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Sharknado wasn't good either, But.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Okay, sorry, I meant, I meant I met Tommy Wizzou's
Shark Good, which also probably is not good because he's
trying to bank on the bizarreness of the room. I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, no, just the room. The room is is a
great example of a bad movie that's still wildly entertaining
because you're you're spending the entire time, at least the
first time you see it. You spend the entire time
saying wait what over and over again, Like I kept,
I could not help myself but ask questions out loud

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when I saw it the first time in a theater
that had other people in it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, it's it's really bizarre. Uh, this is not in
our show notes at all. But yeah, Tommy, I noticed,
Tommy was Zoe made another one shark. Maybe we talked
about it last week anyhow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I think we mentioned it offhand at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Yeah, Like, it's not even that level of like, oh
this was bad good and people like it, so I'm
gonna do it again. This is maybe it is. It
doesn't feel the same.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I mean, I'm just I'm honestly just surprised that Winnie
the Pooh, Blood and Honey Too got a budget like
like what it apparently did, because when you watch that trailer,
it really does look like a real movie, like a
quote unquote real movie, whereas the first one just didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yeah. Oh and the introduced Tigger in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Yeah that's yeah. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, if you want to,
I mean, I think you can just watch the trailer
and then you're good if you if you have a
burning desire to see this movie, don't make let me
stop you. There's no reason. Like love what you love. Right,
I'm not gonna judge you for it, but it's certainly

(01:02:16):
it didn't do anything in the trailer that made me say, oh, well,
now I want to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Yeah, yeah, it didn't. It didn't affect you the same
way that the trailer for the completely made up Adventures
of Dick Turpin did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah. No, that I wanted to see as soon as
the trailer started. I wanted to see this series. So
it's coming out on Apple TV and it's coming out
in March, and it stars Noel Fielding, whom I always
associate with The Mighty Boosh Like that was a show
that he co launched many years ago. But he's also
been on The Great British Bake Off, he's been on

(01:02:53):
What I Not Would I Lie to you? A task Master?
I crowd Yep he was. He was the weird guy
behind the red door or the green door or whatever
it was, the closet goth Yeah, the Gulf. Noel Fielding
is a very funny, very strange comedian from England and

(01:03:15):
he plays this like eighteenth century highway or would be
highwaymen named Dick Turpin who leads a hapless gang as
they attempt to rob rich people, mostly from what we
can tell in the trailer unsuccessfully. Looks really funny. There's
a lot of other like English comedy actors who are

(01:03:40):
in this that you might recognize if you've watched a
lot of English comedy, my favorite being Mark Heap, who
is playing Dick Turpin's dad. Mark Heap played Brian, the
tortured artist in the series Spaced, which was the first
big creative outlet of Edgar Wright, Simon Peg and Nick
Frost working together. And Mark Heap is a He's delightful.

(01:04:03):
I love seeing him and stuff. So I'm so excited
and yeah I watched this trailer and I'm just like,
man March can't get here soon enough. I am so
glad I haven't canceled my Apple TV subscription yet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Yeah, yeah, I so I wasn't always a fan of
the Mighty Boosh. This has much better production quality. It's
really but it gives me like Briscoe County Junior vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Yeah, like it's super tongue in cheek. I am very
interested in it. Anything that has like a it's a
later period than Robin Hood but sort of got that
merry man quality to it. Yeah. No, I'm super excited.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
It reminds me a bit about Blackadder season three, but
obviously much much higher production value.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yeah, yeah, I could see that, and I I feel
like Noel Felding's band of like his his gang are
also very comedic, but not quite as much, so it'll
be a good foil to his bizarreness.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah, there's gonna there's at least one character who appears
to be although presenting as female, she will be the
straight man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Yeah, yeah, I've had I don't know if it was
my friends who did this or if they heard it somewhere,
but I've heard Noel Felding compared to is like the
creepy uncle in Great British Bake Off, but he's such
a friendly creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Yeah. It's also funny because occasionally with some of the
lines he does in Dick Turbin. You can hear some
of his characters from Mighty Boosh Creep and like, he's
got a character the Hitcher, He's a hitchhiking kind of
demonic character from the Mighty booshe and Who's Who's an
over the top Cockney character. You can almost hear a
little bit of that voice creeping in to some of

(01:05:55):
the performance. Yeah, totally totally looking forward to that. Can't
wait for it to come out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
How do you feel about Driveaway Dolls, because we just
got a second trailer for that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
It looks it looks good. I mean, it's a it's
a project what one of the Coen brothers is working on,
and two young women come across a mysterious briefcase that
at one point was owned by an obviously doomed Pedro Pascal,
and it's sort of like kind of got some highest

(01:06:28):
elements to it. I was telling you Ariel before we
started recording that the briefcase is giving me serious pulp
fiction vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, I think it was interesting. Honestly, I
wasn't sure if it was a good geek thing to
include other than Coen Brothers, but it does have Miss
Marvel and Pedro Pascal in it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
So it looks to me like like a movie that's
gonna have that sort of pulp fiction of like, that's
the movie I compare it to the most because it's
it's a big ensemble, lots of big characters doing a
heightened task in this case, like you know, who's got

(01:07:13):
the briefcase and all these different people are trying to
get it, which you know, makes me think of other
movies that we got fairly recently, Bullet Trained being a
great example of one, and I typically enjoy those movies
if they're well done, like they they have elements of
farce in them. They're not necessarily played up as comedically
as a traditional farce, but they have farcical elements that

(01:07:35):
work their way in. And I really enjoy action films
that that do. That guy Ritchie does like that was
like his career when he first started off. They were
all like this style of kind of wild movies where
everybody's going after the same thing for different reasons and
no one's ever really sure who has it at any
given time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'll probably watch I I'm not caught up
on my Coen brother movies.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
They do good work, but I haven't seen all of
their work. Like there are films. There's some movies that
when I saw the trailer, I was just like, Okay,
this looks real depressing. I think I'll skip it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Yep. Yeah, But some of their less depressing stuff I
haven't seen as well I should. I didn't watch Fargo
till a couple of years ago. In the movie, yeah, yeah,
and I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
But yeah, and our last story, I did not put
a horror movie trailer at the end. Instead, I found
a very weird, magically realism kind of film called The
Animal Kingdom of French film that I had never heard of,
and this trailer just kind of popped up in my
suggestions and I took a look, and I thought, this

(01:08:48):
is different.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
You know. That's what everybody said, That's what the trailer says.
That's what everybody in the comments said. First of all,
it looks beautiful and I want to watch it. It's
really interesting. It's about kids who start becoming animal kid
or people who start becoming animal people hybrids. However, it's
also kind of the plot of Sweet Tooth.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
That's true. That's true. So in this case, you've got
you're right in that sweet tooth also has the oppression
element to it, right, So in this trailer, the gist
is that you've got these this race of creatures that
are these human animal hybrids, and whether they started off

(01:09:33):
as human and started to kind of mutate into animals,
or whether there's actually a separate race and there's just
this intermingling of humans and these hybrid animal humans. It's
not totally clear. In the trailer, it appears that one
of the protagonists in the trailer is a father, a
human father who fell in love with a woman who

(01:09:57):
is one of these animal human hybrids, and his son,
who's a teenager, appears to be a teenager maybe a
young adult, appears to not necessarily know that and then
finds out, and then his son is starting to undergo
a kind of transformation. So it's not really clear to
me whether there's like two separate races that are just

(01:10:21):
genetically compatible, or if this is where certain people are
transforming for an unknown reason. But what is clear is
that mainstream human society despises these hybrids. They fear them,
they consider them other. They want to either enslave or

(01:10:42):
wipe them out, and so the story that we're seeing
unfolds across that background, and it looks like it's a
pretty powerful story.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I look forward to it. I wish my
French was better so I didn't have to read the
subtitles because I know that'll detry distract from the beautifulness
of the cinematography and special effects.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Yeah, but at the same time, I'm like, I would
much rather read the subtitles than to have someone do
a dubbed version, because dubbed ones just distract me way more.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm like, I started watching scare Games.
I'm only a couple of episodes in because I cannot,
like I have to be in the right mood to
watch it. It's like, so the concept is upsetting to me. Yeah, sure, yeah,
but it's super well done. It's another one of those
that I feel like I'm to understand culturally, I should
watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
But.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
The dubbing on that The acting is great, but the
dubbing definitely did take some getting used to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Yeah. Yeah, squid Game, I can see why you would
need to take breaks between episodes because it's heavy stuff.
I mean, like just the action that unfolds in your
typical episode is can be hard to watch, but then
on top of it, you have this on going commentary

(01:12:02):
that's really about things like the way the wealth gap
and classism and that kind of thing. Yeah, and that's
super heavy too, so very like you said, very well done.
I don't blame anyone who takes their time watching that.
Like that was a series that I could not easily
binge because it was it was that level of, you know,

(01:12:26):
somewhat harrowing. I needed to take them in in. Maybe
I might watch like two episodes on a good day,
but then I would take a break and pick it
back up a day or two later for the same reason.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Yeah, well, that is all the stories we have to
talk about. It was a very meandering episode and also
double checking here a little long, not too bad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
No, not as long as last week's episode.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
No, but thank you for going on the journey with us, Jonathan.
If they want to reach out to us to talk
about the superb Owl trailers and commercials they saw, or
to share excitement about any of the upcoming awesome geeky
things happening, how would they do that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
So what you're going to have to do is you're
going to have to go out there, and you're going
to have to really study game theory and understand exactly
what makes games really intriguing and attractive. And then I
need you to develop a game specifically for squids. It's
going to be your squid game, and you're going to

(01:13:35):
create really fun elements. You want it to be attractive,
You want the graphics to really appeal to your typical squid.
You want to have some game elements where like tentacles
are really going to be important because you want to
cater to your audience. Right. And then once you've gotten
to a point where you feel really good about your

(01:13:57):
concept and you've worked up, say a prototype version of
your game, you're gonna launch that on a crowdfunding site
like backer kid or Kickstarter or indie Go go something
like that. Now it's gonna be tough for you because
you are promoting a game specifically for squid, who notoriously
are not big crowdfunders. But you're gonna launch that campaign

(01:14:19):
and you're gonna see that your very first backer will
be backing at the support but not actually purchasing a
version of the game. Level for soaro, talking like five
dollars is me and I'm gonna leave a comment and
it's like, Hey, you got any questions you can ask me? Then?

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
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Pod at gmail. Come.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
I think, who knows? Really?

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
We always love hearing from you, and we love chatting
with you and hearing what you're excited about. So thanks
to the people who write in, and even if you don't,
we still appreciate you, our shy our shy friends. Yes,
until until next time. I have been aerial uh tiggers

(01:15:53):
love to bounce.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Cast and I have been Jonathan. I am allergic to squid.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Strickland, that's why you didn't purchase.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
The game, right, Yeah, no, because I can't listen. I
can't go back to the hospital again, Ariel, I've been
there so many times.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
No, thank you, thank you for taking care of yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Yeah job. The Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel
Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again. Curse
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