We Heard You Like Trailers So Here's a Trailer for Your Trailer

Ariel and Jonathan talk about ads (particularly those shown during the Superb Owl), plus how they both are irritated by trailers for movie trailers. And Ariel endures icky horror movie previews to humor Jonathan.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large and or Drunk Ladder podcast.
The podcast it's all about the peeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Verial cast in and with me as always,
is the incredibly patient Jonathan Strickland. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I have to be incredibly patient because taking all those
thumping noises out of the audio is really hard.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm trying to fix it, my friend, What was happening
till just now?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, I know it's well, it's because it's very difficult
to hear during the actual recording process. Like I never
notice it while we're recording. I only notice it when
I'm editing and I'm like, oh, something is like shifting
and hitting a microphone or something. But you know, those
are just that's just a peak behind the curtain to
what it's like to produce podcasts. Y'all.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
All right, I think I've fixed it, but if I haven't,
yell at me and I will fix it again.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh, no worries, No worries. This wasn't meant to be
like calling it. Listen, there have been most of the time.
What the noises I'm taking out are me sniffing. That's
because I've had like a slight, like low cold for
like two months on top of everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Fun fact, last week my husband had was under the weather.
We're guessing like a mild flu because he's vaccinated against
the flu, right, and I was like, oh man, I
dodged getting sick. And then this week, like all weekend
we're both feeling fine. He was completely covered, and then
this week I have been fighting a cold.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
So yeah, well, I mean it happens like and even
with me, like, well, I would say that I don't
get out much, but I've definitely been into a ton
of doctor's offices recently, and I don't know, I guess
it's weird. I never really thought about it, but it
appears like doctor's offices like there's like a higher than
average number of sick people in them, so uh something. Anyway,

(02:02):
that's not what we're here to talk about. What we're
here to talk about is things water geeky and that
we love them.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yes, and per usual or at least usual post our
last break, we're going to start with things that we've watched,
and per my promise of last week, I did, in
fact watch Spider Man across the Spider Verse.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh, I thought you were going to say you watched
the superb Owl.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I also watched the superb Owl.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, what did you think about Spider Man? Because I
still haven't I still need to watch that.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I really liked it. I felt highly inadequate that I
couldn't recognize all of the all of the references. But
I've never been like a huge like I liked Spider Man,
but I never like followed it hugely hugely, so it's reasonable.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, yeah, and they they introduced so many different variations
of Spider Man over the years that I mean, if
I were getting real like cynical, I'd be like, yeah,
of course, because they were trying to make more money
and it didn't really matter if if it made sense
from a story perspective or not. So I definitely wouldn't

(03:11):
recognize all the variants because I've really only you know,
casually followed the Peter Parker Spider Man story.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well, and like every time I'm like, well, that surely
was just made up for the movie. It wasn't, but
it was really it was really good because it started
a little slow. I will say like it started a
little slow. There was a lot of like emotional stuff
and it was still good. But when the movie picked up,
it was fantastic. The villain ended up being quite scary

(03:41):
to me, which I enjoyed. And I thought that punk
Spidey was going to be my favorite character, Hoby, but
he wasn't. PUV was my favorite character, which was.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
The Eastern Indian Spider Man. Yeah. The only reason I
know that is because I play Marvel Puzzle Quest and
that version of Spider Man was introduced as one of
the one of the characters you can collect, and I
got him.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Just absolutely delightful. Just but it was really well done.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
The voice cast is always is amazing in that I
quite enjoyed it. The end was surprising and wonderful.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
How did it stack up against the first one.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
That's a hard question because I I can't I can't
really compare them. Again, I think it. I think it
was a little bit the story. The scenes were not
slower in the beginning, but the story was slower in
the beginning kind of. It took a while to really
get a good good momentum. I you know, it wasn't

(04:43):
as new, it wasn't as new of a thing, right.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, so the joy of Discovery. You had already experienced
that with the first one.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, but I think I liked it just as much.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's cool, awesome. Well, I'm so I'm so pleased to
hear it. Like I said, I still need to see it,
and obviously, I'm sure most of our listeners have seen,
like saw this like months ago at this point, but
I'm really looking forward to it. Maybe I'll actually give
it a shot. I'm supposed to take a little bit
of time off in another week or so, so maybe
I can set some of that time aside for watching that,

(05:18):
because it I've been looking forward to it. Instead, what
I did was, you know, i'd only watched the first
episode of season four of True Detective until this week,
and then I binge the other four episodes that are
out now. The sixth episode comes out on the eighteenth.
We're recording this on the sixteenth, so I have not

(05:39):
had a chance to watch the final episode of season four,
And you know what, the things that I had issues
with from the first episode, I still have issues with now,
even though I went ahead and binged the other four episodes.
But more so, like I don't know, I don't know

(06:00):
if they're going to really finally say yeah, there's some
sort of supernatural element here, or if they're going to
attempt to kind of hand wave it away, which would
seem really weird considering a lot of the stuff that
has been unfolding in the series, or they're just not
going to bother to explain it at all, which is
what I suspect they're going to do and I feel

(06:22):
will be the least satisfying. But I guess I'll see
there's actually a lot of stuff they need to wrap
up in the sixth episode in order for it to
have a satisfying conclusion, because I mean, there's the main mystery,
it's actually a pair of mysteries that are at the
heart of the story of the season, But then there

(06:43):
are all these other subplots that they've introduced, and I
question whether they can bring everything to a satisfying conclusion
in a single episode and not have it feel rushed
or artificial. I want to have enjoyed this season more
than I have, but I consistently find it vexing.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I get that, and you know what, I think, I
think them ending with not explaining anything, if it isn't
Lovecraft inspired, is.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Accurate. I mean, yeah, it's because, like in the first season,
there was this sort of supernatural subtext at the very
least in the first season, but you could you could
walk away saying, all right, it had a lot of
super supernatural subtexts, but nothing was overtly supernatural, and it

(07:40):
totally could have taken place in a real world. You
don't even need magic realism. You just need people who
are delusional for one reason or another. Maybe they're mentally unwell,
maybe they have been drugged, maybe they've been brainwashed, whatever
it is, right, and this season, I feel like there
are fewer ways to just kind of shrug it off

(08:03):
and not explain it unless you argue that you know,
it's set in Alaska, and it's set in the winter,
when it's far enough north in Alaska where the sun
sets and it stays dark for several weeks. Right, So
maybe your argument is this is the psychological toll that

(08:24):
takes on people when there's no sunlight for days on end.
That maybe what they go with. But I don't think
it would be a very satisfying answer. It wouldn't satisfy
me anyway. I don't know about the average viewer.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, is this the do have they announced whether
they're planning on another season or if this is their final.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I haven't heard, but I wouldn't be surprised if they
planned another one, because it's one of those things where
it's a prestige title that gets a lot of attention.
Most of the reviews I've seen for season four have
been pretty positive. A few of them have taken the
same issue that I have, which is that a lot
of the stuff feels like it's filler or that it's

(09:07):
a distraction, and that it's purposefully holding back progress on
the main mystery, because if they dedicated the entire attention
to the main mystery, you'd be done in like two
and a half episodes, so they have to have all
this extra stuff to pad it out a bit. But
the problem is that the padding starts to kind of

(09:29):
take center stage, and it's not as interesting as that
central mystery is, and so you can get frustrated, but
that doesn't necessarily mean it'll prevent them from doing another show,
And if it gets continues to get critical acclaim, then
there are a lot of reasons to do another season.
So I haven't heard anything about season five, but I

(09:51):
wouldn't be surprised about it, whether they would whether they
would do another one that was inspired by Chambers work.
I don't know, because this one feels like it's like
the first season felt that it was heavily inspired by
chambers work. This one feels like it's none as directly
inspired by chambers work because they haven't referenced the King

(10:12):
in Yellow or Carcosa or anything like that. But they
have referenced the image of the spiral, which was first
introduced in season one of True Detective. They've they've referenced
that a ton in this season. So maybe they would
go to another season where it ends up feeling more grounded,
because that's what they did with seasons two and three.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Gotcha? Gotcha? And then you know, I watched the superb Owl,
Yes Jonathan did not, but watched a lot of commercials.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I did watch a lot of commercials just because I
don't know, I don't do it the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
So look, there's so there's an art form to commercials
and a lot of times, maybe not for the Super
Bowl commercials, but I know for like a lot of
more like local ads, there's a lot of collaboration between
the actors and the writers, which is kind of cool
because they don't always have the big staff that like
a TV show or a movie does. So I like

(11:15):
the art form I enjoy, but also apparently a lot
of the superb Owl commercials that I enjoyed critics did not.
So we will spare you that.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, it's funny because Ariel was mentioning some of
her favorites and I was like, uh uh, you know,
according to this other article that I have access to,
those are the same same commercials that they did not like.
And uh, not to put shade on Ariel, but just

(11:48):
like I felt that the critics, because I didn't watch
all of these commercials, but I felt like the critics
who were specifically calling those out seem to have like
no sense of humor or joy because some of the
up some of the ones that I thought were genuinely
funny were being flagged as oh, this didn't work, like
the Michael Sarah one for Sarah V. Moisturizer. I thought

(12:13):
one it was a great send up of those styles
of commercials in the nineties, like the Calvin Klein ads
that kind of stuff, you know, those those obsession for
men kind of ads where it was all very arty
and vague, but also it was obviously Michael Sarah poking
fun at himself, and I just thought it was hilarious.

(12:36):
And the ones I was looking at were like, nah,
this didn't work at all, Like are you dead inside?
What happened?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah? Yeah? I mean and some of them, like some
of them are dumb funny, but you know what, I
like dumb funny commercials. If you can't make me chuckle
or go oh that's clever, you're not going to grab me. Yeah,
But a lot of a lot of the commercials that
are worth talking about our trailers, so we will talk
about them.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, or they were trailers for trailers.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, which we talked about this last year. It annoys
me to no end because if you're actually watching this game,
which I do, mind you, the first half was boring,
and after the halftime show, which was delightful, it picked up.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
And was a really good.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Game in the second half. But like, I don't if
I'm watching the game and I'm watching the commercials, I'm
not gonna leave. So I have to like get on
my phone and make a note to go look at
the commercial later because I'm not gonna leave. Like door
Dash also did a sweepstakes where you could win everything
that was advertised during the Super Bowl, which is a
really cool thing, including like an Uber Eats gift card.
I know this is not really dorky, but I find

(13:43):
it cool. But you had to enter in this incredibly
long URL, which meant you had to watch the commercial
over and over or be like the best speed typer
ever to enter. And I'm like I started, and I'm like, no,
I want to I gotta finish. I gotta watch the game.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So yeah, that's how they get you.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
That's how they get you.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, No, I I I find the I find the
trailers for a trailer to be really irritating. I don't
that that's an that's like a nine on the irritating scale.
The ten for me is when you start a trailer
on YouTube and it starts with like a five second
like preview for the trailer you're already about to watch.

(14:27):
That's the worst. Stop doing it. If it's like a
pivotal moment in the trailer that's going to be a
wow moment, don't show me at the beginning. I want
to see it as it unfolds in the trailer. That's irritating.
Stop it.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, the trailers for trailers are on a trailer in
YouTube as a commercial are frustrating, which so we've talked
about before. I'm not anti commercial because it pays if
you don't want to pay extra price for your media,
that's how they can afford to still make it. But man,

(15:03):
when I turn on a short four minute YouTube video lately,
and then I have to watch four minutes of commercial
to get to the YouTube video, it's frustrating.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, it's so like, I'm I'm subscribed to the YouTube,
so I'm pay Because I was subscribing to a different service,
it got pooreded over to YouTube, which means I don't
get commercials on YouTube unless I seek them out, So
I don't experience that. But it's funny because when I
watch a long form video where there are pauses that

(15:33):
have been inserted in, I'm like, oh, this is where
commercials would have gone if I if I had not
subscribed to YouTube. But otherwise I'm I'm unaware of it,
so I don't encounter that. But I can totally see
how that can be frustrating. It's kind of similar to
how on the web when pop ups started to become

(15:54):
a thing, and those were incredibly obnoxious, especially pop ups
that would auto actually start playing audio or video and
you'd have to like hunt around to be able to
close them out. The worst or the ones that still
happen where you'll go to a website and you start
to try and read something and the top margin suddenly
scrolls down and covers like three quarters of the screen. Stop. Stop,

(16:20):
you're just making us resent whatever it is you're advertising.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It doesn't work, especially if you can't then close it now.
I will say like front loading the ads works on
longer YouTube videos. So like let's say I'm watching a
Critical Role or Dimension twenty or whatever. I don't watch
to Mention twenty on YouTube anymore, but when I did,
it does work better for that because then I can
watch all the commercials at the beginning and get an
uninterrupted stream. Yeah, but are a less interrupted stream. But

(16:49):
on short videos it doesn't quite work as well.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
We could talk at length that YouTube's various advertising strategies,
but we've got a let's see, it looks to me,
based upon my estimation, a buttload of stuff to talk.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
About, yes, and not a buttload of time.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
So I think it's time for us to move to
our favorite segment and yours. I don't know if that's true,
but it's thirty seconds or less and I'm first, So
here we go. You can't keep a good pair of
Charlottan's down. We're getting another and presumably final film in

(17:29):
the Conjuring series. Michael Chavez, who has directed movies in
that universe, already, is in talks to direct. David Leslie
Johnson McGoldrick wrote the screenplay once he finally finished writing
his incredibly long name on the contract. It starts shooting
in Atlanta this summer, so maybe we'll see Ariel as

(17:51):
a giga ghost.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
That would be awesome. So Chune Rader one through three
has been mastered if you wanted to play those lovely
polygonal games. But in the remastering, the gaming company Crystal
Dynamics has decided to not take out the harmful stereotypes

(18:14):
that were put into the first three great games, and
rather add a disclaimer at the beginning which says, rather
than removing the content, we have chosen to present it
here in its original form, un altered, in the hopes
that we may acknowledge its harmful impact and learn from it.
I personally I understand if they don't want to change
the game that much. But at the same time, when
you're playing the game, you're probably not necessarily learning from

(18:37):
it unless they put subtitles like this is harmful, this
is why it's harmful as you're playing.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Maybe, But I mean Disney does the same thing for
some of their cartoon content that has not just cartoon content,
but some of their stuff that was made specifically, like
in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties and like the
Muppets and stuff, Yeah, and the Muppets in the seventies
and eighties, where there's been some stuff that in our

(19:04):
modern approach to media we would recognize as being harmful
and should not have happened at that time. I don't know.
I have feelings about this. I think I think it's
responsible if you acknowledge it and you allow people to
still make the decision as to whether or not they
consume that media. But to your point, I do understand,

(19:24):
like when it's happening, it's not like it's not like
you can have a deeper discussion about why was this
wrong then, and what have we learned since, and what
would be you know, the appropriate thing to do.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I mean, maybe I don't know. Maybe a middle ground
would be if there's like a specific stereotype or injustice
that is shown, to put a little blurb about that
with a learn more here click, either at the beginning
or at the end.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's true in games, you can do that kind of thing,
So that is a possibility. All right, I apologize I
derailed it this this time. Here we go. So in
last week's episode, I mentioned that Leitsch had been tapped
to direct a new Jurassic World movie, and now he's
been untapped, so reportedly there was a difference in vision
between Leich and Universal. As a reminder, this new entry

(20:11):
in Jurassic World is said to be an entirely new take,
which suggests we will not have returning characters show up
trying to prevent the military from weaponizing dinosaurs, which is
good because that was dumb.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I wonder if they're not going to be returning dinosaurs
in it.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, no, it'll be Jurassic World, but no dinosaurs. It's
just the it's just the flora, none of the fauna.
It's just the plants.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well, it could be like all wooly mammi mammoths.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
That's too Jurassic Jurassic's too early for wooly mammoths though.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, Jurassic Park no longer Jurassic.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well, to be fair, like half the dinosaurs, more than
half of the ones that appeared actually came from like
the Cretaceous period, not the Jurassic period. But that's that's
an argument for a different time.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yes, I derailed it this time, okay. Next Disney has
released art for and a release a premier date for
their original series Renegade Mel, which is about a young
woman who finds herself framed for murder and becomes an
outlaw in eighteenth century England and then you know, makes

(21:19):
friends with himpish characters and life gets crazy from there.
No trailers yet, it looks delightful. It comes out on
March twenty ninth. This is something I'm looking for. Also,
the artwork on the poster. The girl looks vaguely like
our friend Shay to me, so friend of the show Shay.
All right, the show say she's legally changed her name.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, yeah, all right. Dan Trachtenberg, who directed Pray, is
in talks to direct a new predator film called bad Lands.
This one is not connected to Pray, but it is
supposed to have a woman take on the lead role,
and it's also supposed to take place in the future.
So apparently Pray really reinvigorated the franchise because now they're
a rumors of multiple Predator projects that are in early development.

(22:04):
So could we get a Predator Cinemac universe please know?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah? This second movie is going to be called Eat
and then the last one is it Love Stool Love.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah? I love that Predators Predators Eat Pray Love Trilogy.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's Pray Eat Love. It's anyhow Okay. Lastly, in our
thirty seconds or less, there is a John Wick Experience
coming to Area fifteen in Las Vegas, which is right
next to a Mega mart, which Jonathan and I have
talked about before because it's super cool. In front of
the show. Shay is also visiting.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, she went there yesterday.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. I always say that because Jonson told me yesterday.
It's going to be kind of it sounds like it's
going to be like a mix between like the Stranger
Things interactive experience and a murder mystery because or where
you get like assigned to character and you go in
and you interact with the other characters and go on missions.
Or something like that, or like the Spy Museum or

(23:03):
something like that. It sounds pretty cool. Hopefully you won't
have to, you know, shoot anybody in the face.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, I think. I think the setting is supposed to
be the Continental, which is the hotel that is featured
heavily in the various John Wick films. And yeah, I
guess by the end of it, you too will be
convinced that absolutely every single person who coexists in the
world with you is also a highly skilled, highly trained assassin.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
That's the best way to live life.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, yeah, John. The John Wicks series just is absolutely ridiculous.
I love the action, but I'm like, how does the
economy of this world work because apparently everybody is a
trained killer? Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Gotta gotta send in those body count tokens yep to
do your laundry. Now we're on to our regular news,
and we're gonna start with a very sad story.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, very sad story. Tragic, tragic story. It's actually personally tragic.
It has has ripped a hole in Aeriel's heart because
while she is missed thing, she is not the thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah. The fantastic forecasting has been announced and I am
not in it. I didn't even get an audition, but honestly,
I'm okay with that. I like the lineup. Eben mossbackering
is like how I just like slid through his name
because I couldn't pronounce it correctly with my cold is
The thing which we kind of talked about was a
rumor last week. Joseph Quinn, who was Eddie in the

(24:50):
season three Stranger Things, is Johnny Storm, Pedro Pascal is
mister Fantastic, and then Vanessa Kirby. Vanessa Kirby is Sue Storm,
who I I'm not as familiar with. I haven't seen
the stuff that she's been in, but I'm sure she'll
be great.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, I'm actually quite excited about the casting.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
One of our friends or one of my friends anyway, commented,
I saw it on the Book of Faces that that
he was not super jazz to hear about Pedro Pascal
because he said he's over exposed to me. And I said,
would you say he was stretched thin? Because then it's
type casting.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I you know, I was my only my only thing
that we keep me thinking from thinking Pedro Pascal is
totally something that I don't want put on me as
an actor, which is that his body type doesn't scream
mister fantastic to Me'm kind of more built for me.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's it's also the fact that we've already seen mister
Fantastic as John Krasinski. And you know, you could argue, yeah,
but that was a multiverse thing, right, Like, that was
a different multi that was different universe within the multiverse,
and in that universe he is read Richards. But I
would argue, maybe, but why are the other characters played

(26:15):
by the same actors where it's like the variations of
the different like characters, but they're played like like like
Captain Carter is still played by at well, So like
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I mean, so it could be that John Krasinski didn't
have time or didn't want to be mister Fantastic, you know,
mister fantastic all of a sudden, my brain just shorted
out there. Yeah, full time. And I know that, like,
which I would expect more in earlier days of the
MCU when they were putting people into these very long contracts, right, yeah,
which we had talked about earlier, that they aren't doing

(26:53):
as much. You know, there's a myriad of reasons that
he could not be doing it. It could be that
they want to want a fresh start. It could be
that he went through a radiation field and got darker
and gruffer. But that being said, Pedro Pascal has like

(27:15):
has such a vast range of goofy, too serious that
I think he will do well in acting the role.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Oh, I agree, I think he'll do a good job.
It's it's no shade on Pedro Pascal. I really like
his work. I mean, I've seen him perform on stage.
Didn't even know it was him at the time. Nice
and yeah, he was in king Lear and I really
like his work. I enjoy his projects. But it's just
one of those things where it just kind of irks

(27:43):
me where they've already established an actor in a role.
But then also, I got to get over myself. Marvel
has recast roles multiple times, so it's not like it's
not like I should really be upset about it, Like
they've done this in the past already, and so yeah,

(28:04):
I'll get over it. I'm sure. What I'm really excited
about is that we're finally going to get a Fantastic
four film. My hope is that we'll see a lot
more care given to crafting this film so that it's
an entertaining story. And I really I don't know why
I'm hoping this, considering the nature of the Fantastic Four

(28:24):
as powers, but I'm really hoping it doesn't ultimately lead
to a giant like PS three computer generated you know,
spectacle at the end where you don't feel anything because
nothing feels grounded or real.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, I hope so too into your Marvel recasting thing.
Marvel also used to say that if you played one
character in the MCU, you couldn't play another. This is
another example of that being changed because Eben moss bachrec
has played Microchip in The Punisher, so, which is now
technically a part of the MCUH.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
So the Netflix series The Punisher. You mean, yes, okay, yes,
not like not like one of the terrible film versions
that were done before the Netflix series. No, which they don't,
they don't count in the MCU. They are. They were like,
it's kind of like the old Captain America movies and
stuff like that. They just that's before the MCU era.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
You say that, but I feel like nothing is off
limits because.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I feel like you could see a reference to it
occasionally either sometimes I wonder if they are referencing very
old Marvel film moments, because there was one where it
was Henry Salinger's kid. I can't remember his name, but
he played Captain America. And the gag that I've I

(29:51):
remember is that he would fake illness in order to
get to draw people away from a car so that
he could then run onto the car and steal the
car and drive off. And he does it like twice
in the movie, and uh, and it's ridiculous. And I
want to say that in Captain America Winter's Soldier, there's
a scene where he does that, and I was sitting

(30:14):
there thinking like, is this just coincidence or are they
actually kind of tongue in cheek referencing this almost forgotten
about in Captain America movie.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I bet it was. I bet it was purposeful. But
you know, the the X Men, I think when they start,
like the X Men movie started pre MCU, and those
are being pulled in to the MCU.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Now, yeah, yeah, we even we even got references I
remember in the first way back in the first X
Men film, not even before the days of Future Past stuff.
When you get to the first X Men film, they
referenced the cartoon series, which we will chat about toward
the end of this episode, but they referenced the because
they had one of the characters from the cartoon series

(31:01):
who was not in the comic books in order to
have a character that they could very quickly kill off.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah. But speaking of X Men meshing with
MCU and all kinds of things being brought in, we
did get a trailer for the Deadpool in Wolverine trailer
doing the drinks to per Bowel, which means we actually
got a Deadpool in Wolverine trailer.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah, I thought this. I mean it was interesting.
They pull in the Time Variant Authority, the TVA that
we saw in the Loki series, so they appear to
have a big part in this, and it seems like
at least part of the reason is because Deadpool does

(31:48):
have this ability to break the fourth wall, which makes
him not unique because She Hulk also does it, but
unusual and so first, for one reason or another, the
TVA has decided to visit Deadpool. Maybe it's because of
the way Deadpool two ends, which it has a little

(32:12):
bit of time traveling shenanigans in it. Yeah, that might
be why. But yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Does that possibly cause branches?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
So yeah, absolutely so maybe that's going to be the thing.
I still haven't seen Loki season two. I really need
to because I want to see how that TVA storyline progresses.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I yes, I there are references to the end of
the series. I don't remember if it's in the Deadpool trailer,
but in something that I saw recently. So it's a
little slow. There are some episodes that are really good.
There's some bits that are really good. I feel like

(32:51):
King's character in season two talks so slow that it
I get why he did it, but I just I
desperately wanted him to finish a sentence.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, if it makes you feel any better, he finished
his career with the MCU.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I mean, you know what I'm going to say, that
doesn't actually make me feel better. I wish that he
hadn't done the things that he did so that he
could still have a career, because I don't like seeing
anybody fail.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, but yeah, anyway, what do you think of the
Deadpool and Wolverine trailer? What was your reaction?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I loved it. I thought it was hilarious. I liked
how self referential it was. I was honestly surprised by
how much of the Disney MCU was pulled into it,
though I shouldn't have been. And there was one like
very brief cameo appearance that I asked my husband. I
was like, is that And my husband's like, I don't
think so, but it was, And I was right.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I mean, I don't want to doom this conversation. But
was it a Doctor of certain malevolent renown? Yes? Yes,
I was wondering if that was Doctor Doom when I
saw the image of the armored masked man in a cowl,
and I thought, that doesn't look like Doctor Doom's mask.

(34:06):
But this being a multiversal kind of movie, that totally
could be a Doctor Doom. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, So like I don't know for certain obviously, but
like some of our mutual friends who watch a lot
of movies also are postulizing that.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
So yeah, And here's the nice thing is that they
could totally. Well, first of all, you would expect a
Doctor Doom to be pulled into the MCU at some point,
because we are getting a Fantastic Four movie and that
Doctor Doom is traditionally their biggest villain that they face
off against. But also like Doctor Doom would not be

(34:43):
a bad shout if you wanted to either segue away
from Kang or just have something to supplement Kang so
that it takes a little of the sting out. Because
my guess is they're going to just do a full
recasting and that's and Kang is still going to be
the big bad for the end of this phase or
the end of these phases, because otherwise they have to

(35:06):
completely go back to the drawing board.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, I've heard recasting rumors. I hope that either in
Deadpool or the new Fantastic Four movie, doctor Doom has
a malfunction with the speaker function of his mask, so
he sounds like doctor Doom and the Roger Korman Fantastic Four,
which will forever be the best version.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Of four, which is story. If you thought Bain was
difficult to understand, you haven't seen anything, because he really is.
It does sound like someone speaking into a tin can
if you watch that Roger Corman produced Fantastic Four movie.
And I agree, Ariel, that's genuinely an entertaining film. I'm

(35:50):
not even saying ironically entertaining, because they were clearly so
sincere with their approach that it is. It's really charming.
Like it's super low budget. You got to get past that.
The effects are not impressive.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
And there's a lot of tonal changes, but it's fun.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
It's a fun movie. Like when I first watched it,
I was like, this is better than the Fantastic Four
films that were coming, like the one that Chris Evans
was in, for example, I was like, this is better
than that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, I quite enjoyed it, and not only because half
the time I felt like they were about to break
into song even though they didn't.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, it did feel like it had the musical energy, right.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, yeah, But I'm very excited for this new phase
of Marvel. Like, well done, Marvel. Now I'm excited again.
Speaking of I don't remember if I said this in
last week's episode. At one point in time, I thought
that the actress who plays Kamala Kon was in driving Dolls.
That's not actually the case. It's an actress from Miracle Workers.

(36:59):
So if I that on the episode, I apologize profusely
for confusing them. They have similar eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
But next up, So we got tons of teasers for
trailers during the Super superb Owl, and the next one
was I put it in our notes as trailer of
the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes of the
of the because there's just so many of us but
no Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. We got
a trailer for it. And you know what, Ariel, this

(37:29):
is a series that I've just let slip that I
have not watched, even though I've heard lots of folks
that I really trust and I often agree with, talk
about how compelling and exciting these movies are, and seeing
this trailer, I was thinking, Man, it might be time
for me to finally like go back and start watching
these movies, because this trailer looked really good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
First of all, I want to say, even though obviously
the quality of these movies has improved, when I look
at the new overarching path of these Planet of the
Ape movies, I feel like I'm watching the same characters throughout,
So from the first one to this one, I don't
inside my heart, I don't feel like a tonal visual shift,

(38:15):
which is really cool. Even though obviously the graphics have
gotten better. In the CGI, I agree the story looks cool.
I'm very excited for this Witcher crossover. One of the
main human characters is Siri.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
From the Witcher.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
But even in the like the like the articles in
the log line I've seen for this trailer, they're like,
the director has breathed new life into this franchise, And
you're right, it feels really good. Also, wasn't this story
done way way way back, long ago?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Well, I mean, this feels like it's finally catching up
to the Planet of the Apes classic films, right, because
the Planet of the Apes films we've received so far
were really about how we get to a point like
how did that? How did the series of events happen
that would lead to a planet where apes are the

(39:09):
dominant species and humans have been reduced to being essentially
from the Stone Age, And so the the movies we've
seen so far were largely about the ascension of the
apes and the gradual decline of humanity. And this is
starting to feel like it's almost set the stage for

(39:30):
what would happen from those classic films where we have
astronauts coming back to Earth and realizing that something very
weird has happened.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, yeah, Now I'm very excited about this. I think
I'm going to have to pick up the films I
did watch the very first Planet of the Apes, and
I liked it. Of the new series, the.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
One with Gollum in it, Andy serkis thank.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
You, it's the It's I had a cold this week
and even though im feeling much better, like I'm still
turning to all the synapses back on.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, and I mean, we all know you're a blonde
at heart, So that's true. It was a terrible joke.
I have to deeply apologize for making a terrible stereotypical joke.
I don't actually believe that, and I sincerely apologize it
was a dumb one.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Look, I'm people also stereotype me as a redhead, even
though it's you know, not what comes out of my
head naturally. Don't tell anybody. But speaking of blondes, we
also got a trailer for Wicked.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
That's true, and that show has a blonde joke right
in the middle of a song, right at the beginning
of a song, and it's a it's an undeniable blonde joke. Yeah,
we got the Trailer's what seemed weird to me, Ariel
is that having seen the stage show, knowing that this
movie is actually a pair of films and that the

(40:57):
story has been broken into two halves. There was an
awful lot of imagery that I saw in this trailer
that seemed to me like it would most likely belong
in the second half of the story, not the first half,
which made me wonder, why is it in this trailer
unless they've decided to go with kind of a non
linear storytelling where they're going to be jumping around in

(41:21):
the timeline, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Interesting. So I'm gonna be completely frank. I've never actually
seen Wicked. I've listened to the musical. I did see
one TikTok reviewer who hasn't seen it yet obviously just
watched the trailer talk about how they hoped that it
wasn't going to be the first half in the first
movie in the second half in the second movie, because
the second half of the musical is a slog you

(41:47):
sit through it is because you just got through defying gravity.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, it definitely doesn't have like the energy of the
first half, like all the big energy numbers are in
the first half, and the second half is it is
much dark, but it isn't like it it's not as fun.
So yeah, it would be kind of like, well, you
got all your fun moments in your first film, so

(42:10):
come watch the really agonizingly slow second film. I mean,
we've also both talked about how we don't understand how
there's enough material there to do two films. I guess
you could argue if you were adapting the original novel,
maybe there's two films worth of story there. But this

(42:32):
isn't the original novel. This is adapting the musical. Maybe
they bring in some elements that are in the novel,
but they can't do too much because I'll tell you,
the novel and the musical totally different, both in the
storyline and in the tone.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Well look, if as people know, I am soon going
to go watch rosenkres Gildon standard did in Canada, and
that is an almost three hour play with two intermissions,
and they made that into one movie. So if that
can be made one movie.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, yeah, I think. But then they made The Hobbit,
a story that you could read over the course of
a couple of nights, into three films, two of which
I saw on your birthday. So sorry, so sorry, neither
did I neither did I? We we would for Ariel's

(43:27):
birthday twice to go see The Hobbit two different years,
and and and it was so the second one was
so discouraging we didn't do it the third time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Well, look, it's just because Star Trek movies weren't coming
out on my birthday anymore. Because it was it was
the Lord of the Rings trilogy and Star Trek that
were coming out in December, which is great for me.
It was great for me. I loved it. It was
a great tradition, and then it fizzled. I'm also gonna
say for the casting of Wicked, I am sure everyone's

(44:01):
going to do a great job. They cast a lot
of really powerful singers and actors and comedians. I think
doing Jeff Goldbloom as the Wizard is inspired.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
They've got a lot of performers from the West End
who are taking up some of the some of the
many of the roles.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah. But and this is not saying that she won't
do a phenomenal job. What they showed me of Ariana
Grande as Glinda in the trailer does not make me
feel like she is embodying the Glinda that I know
exists in the musical. She looks so sweet and kind
in the trailers of what we see of her that

(44:43):
like maybe she's a ditsy, unknowing blonde. But she doesn't.
They don't show any.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Of that pep like the mean girl popular one, the
character who is really picking on Alphaba for like the
first forty minutes of the play.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
She seems anti Heather.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, I was not blown away by what I saw
of Ariana Grande either. It didn't like I was giving
her the benefit of the doubt because I know she's
wanted to play this role forever. She even incorporated some
of the song Popular into one of her songs that
she did with Mika, you know, the one who did

(45:20):
the you know I Could Be Brown, I Could be
Blue that whole you know, she does a song with
him where they incorporated some of Popular into it. So
I knew that she had this long standing love of
the musical and a desire to play the part. But again,
based on what I saw, I was not impressed. Now,
we should also remind ourselves and everybody else that a

(45:44):
performer's performance in a film is a collaborative effort, because
the director and the editor also play a big part
in what we end up seeing. So this isn't to
suggest that she's a bad performer. I know she's not
she's done. She's done tons of acting. Before she became
big as a singer, she was doing acting. So I

(46:06):
don't want to suggest that she couldn't do the part,
but I was not impressed with what I saw.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, and that isn't even saying that she isn't going
to do the part brilliantly. It's just the editing of
this first trailer, that's true. Now, she started on Nickelodeon
as like the comedic like the comedic best friend. After
I stopped watching that level of show. Yeah, so I

(46:31):
kind of missed her Nickelodeon face. I have gone back
and watched clips and she's very, very funny. But again
it seems more of like a sweet, genuine clueless funny,
which could work too. So this is not me. She
might do brilliantly. The first trailer just didn't show me.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
That same something else we saw. This trailer really sucked
people up into the air. Yeah, we saw trailer for Twisters,
the sequel to the classic Helen Hunt vehicle Twister. Like
carry El Wes was in that movie. You know, there
were a lot of people who were you know, was

(47:07):
it Philip Phillip Seymour Hoffman. I think was in it too.
I haven't watched Twister in a very long time. It
has been years.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
You remember, you remember a lot more than I. And
I saw Twister at a drive in with the original
Jamungie while a thunderstorm inconvertible, while a thunderstorm was brewing
in the background. Wow, so that's my memory of Twister.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Times you had like the four D experience, like like
you would get at an amusement.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Park, which I've also done the Twister ride at Universal,
which I have not done that. Yeah, so a couple
of times less scarier than it was at the drive in.
But I remember very little of the movie. I remember
someone tying themselves to a drainage pipe so they wouldn't
get sucked away. But it looks it looks like Twister.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I was gonna I was gonna say the same thing.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
It looks like Twister, but with two.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, and with you know, obviously updated effects and stuff.
There appears to be a plot about potentially deploying a
technology that, if it works properly, could diffuse a tornado
so that it would disperse and no longer recavoc I
don't know if the tornadoes in this movie are going

(48:24):
to appear to be somewhat ch Yeah, because I was
getting that feeling in the trailer, right, like not that
they were going to be called out as sentient, but
because of the behavior of the storm that you start
to question, like, well, how would this work unless the
storm was actively going after someone Allah the day after

(48:45):
Tomorrow where you had the cold front chasing people down
roadways and stuff like. It was starting to feel like
there was a little anthropomorphism going on in the trailer
to me. But again, I could be reading way too
much into this.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I'll have to ask my niece, who is very wants
to be a meteorologist, if she's and recently took training
to be a storm tracker, like for the National Weather Service.
You can you can be like a you can be
like it on the ground citizens storm reporter. You see
something bruined, like if that's something like it could it
could just be completely coincidental.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Sure, but if it keeps happening throughout the movie, then
you start to question things. Right. But anyway, the it
does like it feels to me kind of like a
film that belongs in the nineties, Like it has a
lot of the elements I would associate with disaster movies
that came out in the nineteen nineties, just like you know,

(49:47):
Roadhouse would get in the reboot of Roadhouse and you're like,
and you're thinking, is this just another mark of nostalgia
where you start looking at properties that broke through like
thirty years ago, and now we're going to do them again,
but with maybe hopefully a better script and improved special effects. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I mean, Lisa Frankenstein is well, it's an original story,
but it's based off of like the eighties stuff. Yeah,
I wonder we don't need we don't need a bunch
of that, But I understand why people want to refresh
properties for newer audiences. I do think that the Twister
franchise really missed the mark when they didn't call this

(50:29):
new movie Twisted Sisters. Yeah, Twisters.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I guess they're not gonna take it anymore. And what
we're gonna take next is another trailer, and this one
is turning the damsel in distress a metaphor on its head,
and it's called Damsel, Yes, and.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
It we've talked about it before, but there's a new
trailer that just shows a little bit more of Bobby
Brown being super badass.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, well while trying desperately to avoid turning into a
shish kebab.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah. So, if you didn't hear us talk about it before,
it's a Netflix movie that's coming out very soon about
this girl who it looks like from the second trailer.
Her father betrothed her to a prince because the village
or the family needs it or whatnot. And she goes
to marry the prince and they get her all ready
and they're like, we're gonna do this marriage ritual and
they throw her into a pit which contains a dragon

(51:31):
that they've done every so often to princesses to maintain
the safety of their village, which is not a new trope.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Right, there's right. Yeah, this is the plot to a
nineteen eighties era fantasy film called Dragon Slayer, where the
story is that they hold a lottery every year and
the person whose name is drawn from the lottery is
chosen as a sacrifice in order to appease a dragon
to not destroy their village a year after years. So

(52:00):
there's stuff in here that does harken back to other stories,
but obviously the big difference here is that the woman
chosen to be the victim ends up turning the tables
and is not going to go quietly and is not
going to take it lightly. Like she feels very strongly

(52:24):
that the people who decided to sacrifice her should be
held accountable for their decision. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
I was chatting with my husband about it, and he
was feeling like the trailer and maybe it's because pardon me,
there's not enough time in a trailer, but that the
trailer didn't show enough of her, like starting off as
maybe a more naive person. I'm like, she may not
have been. She might have been like the Bell character
of the village and the dad's like, no, you have
to marry this prince. We need it, you know. So
she might have already been street smart and just doing

(52:53):
what she was supposed to. But I guess we'll see.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah we don't. Yeah, the trailer doesn't show us all that,
but then that's not the trailer's job. I think I
think it looks like it could be a fairly entertaining film.
I mean, even if it's treading ground that we've seen before,
especially if you're old like me and you've been around
long enough to watch movies like Dragonslayer, which I did
again just like two years Ago. Then maybe then you'll

(53:20):
kind of roll your eyes a little bit. But I
think it looks like it's well made, and I'm always
in favor of fantasy films that aren't necessarily a spin
off of Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
So you don't think that this is a sequel to
Princess Bride where Princess Buttercup has now grown up to
be the evil Queen.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
I mean, even though it may be played by the
same actress, I hope that's not the case, because if
it is the case, then I do expect a nearly
dead ancient woman to show up and go boo boo,
you threw her ride that pit.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Although you say that isn't a spinoff of Game of Thrones,
there is a moment in the trailer where Robin Wright
as the evil Queen says you know nothing, yeah, and
she goes on to a different sentence. But I expected
her to say, John, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Well something that I don't know if you even watched it, ariel,
because I warned, okay, I warned you about it before
we we went. I saw a trailer for a Sasquatch Sunset,
which is it feels almost like a Wes Anderson film
about a group of bigfoot like a family of bigfoots,

(54:30):
big feats. But yeah, it's a it's a comedy, but
it's a raunchy comedy somewhat about these sasquatches. And I've
only wanted to put it in here because I was like, Wow,
this is unusual and it has to do with sasquatch
and cryptids can be a source of interest for among
the geek community. I don't believe in them, but lots

(54:52):
of other people do. But this looks like it's kind
of like a weird slice of life sort of comedy
feet turing these sasquatches as they are going through their lives.
And again, it does have a sort of Wes Anderson
sort of feel to it, although there is a very
raunchy joke very early on in the trailer that it's

(55:17):
one of those moments where like a narrator is speaking
a somber and deep thing and then suddenly it cuts
to two sasquatches attempting to make a third sasquatch. If
you get my drift, yes.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yeah, yes, which honestly I expected it to be. I
felt it was an unnecessary joke. I understand why it
was there, but also it wasn't as bad as I
was anticipating, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
I only put it in there because I was just like,
I don't know this tone is. It immediately struck a
bad chord with me because it's not the kind of
thing I respond to, like, oh hah, funny, that's a
really funny gag that you did where you subverted expectations
by a quickly segueing from this sort of poetic experation

(56:00):
to a very non poetic moment. But it just reminded
me of like raunchy comedies from the early two thousands
that I never wanted to see. But the rest of
it felt more kind of wistful to me.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's also got a large cast of
very good actors who are not unrecognizable.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yes, absolutely, I couldn't tell who any of them were
until like who Riley was. Yeah, and when they when
they announced it, You're just like, I mean, maybe it
could also be someone else and I would never know.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah. Yeah, there's like one person who is like, okay,
I can see it, but there are other people like no, no,
that's that's the guy from the the Guico commercials.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I don't know. Yeah, Well, we got tons of more
stuff to get through because so many trailers. Let's talk
about the very short but new Showgun trailer. I watched
it thought it looked good, like as in very well made,
Like you could tell a lot of money was spent
making this thing.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Yes, did it make you fearful? Of the things we
talked about last week about it being a white savior story.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
There was only one shot I saw that seemed to
actually have the white character in it as far as
I could tell, So I would say this didn't. This
didn't increase my fears or anything. It didn't assuage them either,
because it's such a short trailer that I don't even
really have an appreciation of what I saw, apart from
I mean I expected to see some sort of vaguely

(57:35):
medieval Japanese military action.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, I am surprised that I am the most excited
person about this show in my household, but I am so.
I will definitely watch it, and if you don't, I
will give you reviews on it.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Awesome. I appreciate that. So moving on, because we've got
so many of these trailers, we're still got like we'll
pick it up. Yeah, we got like a dozen or
so to get through Godzilla x. Kong. We got a
new trailer for that. Ariel, you are the person on
this podcast who absolutely loves monster movies. What was your

(58:11):
take on this trailer?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
So very very initially, I was like, why is this
coming out? Because it's Godzilla minus one had such brilliant reviews.
Why is why?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Why?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
But it is completely different. It's a different world. It's
not in the same thing. The Godzilla versus Kong was
so dumb. It was fun. They were fun moments. I
loved seeing fighter jets being thrown like darts, but it
was a dumb movie. This one feels equally kind of dumb.

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But I'm also like vaguely into it. I do like
the concept of this, this deaf girl being able to
communicate with Kong. I think that's great. She was great
in the last movie She's I'm sure she's gonna be
wonderful in this movie. The fact that they give him
like a mecha.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Fist, yeah, he becomes cyber Kong.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
He becomes Cybercok is ridiculous. I I worry about there
being some like Son of Kong tropes in there, because
they show young young like apes and stuff, But this
does because this movie features Godzilla and King Kong fighting
together against the evil and it also has Dan Stevens,
who I love from Downton Abbey and Legion and a

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bunch of other stuff. It leads me to hope that
the next one will be a lethal weapons style Godzilla
Kong buddy cop movie.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
I watched this and I thought, this looks like a
chaotic mess and I'm not gonna see.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Yes, I mean, I will probably watch it at home.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
I mean, this feels like if it's if you're gonna
watch it, it feels like you kind of should go
to the theater because it's a big spectacle movie. But
I'm not a fan of spectacle anymore. Like I need
more than spectacle to bring me to the theater. Like
I get people who say, oh, it's incredible filmmaking, like
it's so it's so in your face or whatever. They'd

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make such good use of it. But for me, I
need a really good story. I don't care about the spectacles.
I mean, the spectacle might be like I was impressed,
but I'm not going to talk about it later. It
just doesn't. It doesn't stick with me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
You didn't watch Pacific Grim either, did you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
I actually tried to. I literally tried to because I
noticed that was on one of the streaming services. I
can't remember which one, but I was going through and
I started watching it, and I got maybe half an
hour into it. I got to the point where the
young woman is chosen to be his partner and then
is summarily chosen to not be his partner, and then

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I turned it off and I did not turn it
back on. So it didn't do much for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Me, gotcha, Yeah, I mean that I enjoy it, but
Ron Pearlman and Charlie Day really were like the shining
bits of that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
To Charlie Day was the most entertaining part that I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
But it seems like a similar level of story. I
can get behind you, spectacle. I wish this story had
a little bit more for me to hold on to,
but maybe maybe it will.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
And now, some horror movies, but they're not at the
end of the episode this time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Yep, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I did group them all together, but it didn't put them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
At the and you sandwiched sandwiched. This is not me
giving you crap for this at all, but you did
sandwich the one that was most acceptable to me between
the other two that are like my severe x.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Well Ariel doesn't like apparently cannibalism or spiders, So no,
not first. Our first one is called Cold Meat, which
I said Cold Meat for all your Wind to Go
horror film needs, because it's a story that appears to
have like couple of people get caught in the middle

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of like a frozen wasteland where they don't really they're driving,
and then they get run off a road and they're
not able to extract their car from the snow bank
they run into, and they're not able to like continuously
run the car, and meanwhile there's this incredibly cold storm
hitting outside. There's also some interpersonal drama moments. There's some

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like violent people moments in there, and the narrator talks
about this whole legend of this spirit that drives someone
to consume someone else, which sounds very much like the
Wind to Go mythology. And I don't know, the trailer
looks it looks like it's an intense one. It does

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fall into that genre of person is stuck in frozen
place without any real shelter. Like it reminds me of Gray,
it reminds me of Oh, there's a couple of these
that I've seen, and their names are escaping me. But
it falls into that kind of category. I don't know

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if it's going to stand out, but the reviews that
they sit on the trailer Surprise Surprise, are really encouraging,
But then they're not likely to show ones of I
was bored to tears or it made me want to
eat my own foot off.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I'm glad there's not that one. But it did look
it did look well, made it look suspenseful, but.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
It's not the one that was most acceptable to Ariel.
For that. We have to go to a movie that
is inspired by the Pied Piper of Hamlin.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Yeah, it's called The Piper, and it's about this. It's
about Julian Sand's being a crazy, evil composer and when
he passes, one of his students takes over his work
and finishes his musical score and when you play it,
you go mad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yeah. And so first off, rip to the late great
Julian Sands. He's the actor we lost last year. He
got lost while hiking. Very tragic into his life, but
he is someone you would recognize because he's been in
so many different movies. And when I saw him in

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this trailer, I thought, oh oh, I didn't even know
there was another project that had him in it that
had not yet released here in the States. I thought
this trailer looked like it was trying real hard, but
it didn't do much for me, like I understand where
it's going from, like I can again, like you start
to if you watch enough horror movies, you start to

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see kind of broad categories that horror movies can fall into,
like subcategories of horror. And this one feels like a
certain subcategory that I've seen a lot of, and very
few of those movies and that subcategory ever rise to
above mediocre. But maybe The Piper is one of the
ones that does it. We'll have to wait and see.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Yep, we'll have to wait and see something that only
Jonathan will wait to see. Is the movie stick?

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Come on, this is like a horror comedy. You'd love it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I tried to watch this trailer and the first time
they showed a spider on somebody, I went, I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Oh wow, so you didn't get to see the part
where the spider crawls into a person's mouth. Oh ha,
it's a big one too, A big spider that has
not a big mouth. I mean, it's a sizable spider.
So this this is like a horror comedy, Like there's
definitely some comedic bits in the In the trailer, it

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actually gave me a rachnophobia vibes, Like, do you remember
when we got like spider horror comedies for no reason?
We got a rack noophobia and we got eight legged
freaks like that was a thing for a while. Well,
this feels like it's again tapping back into that nostalgia stuff.
It feels like it's tapping into that. And while there's

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no one who stood out as overtly comedic as the
John Goodman character in Iraq Noophobia, there did feel still
feel like there's some comedy when Sting. So the basic
premise is that a young girl ends up capturing a
spider and puts it in a jar and befriends it
and names it Sting and even teaches it not to whistle.

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She whistles to it, and that it somehow is able
to vocalize and replicate the little tune. But then it
grows and then it gets out, and then your eight
legged terror ensues, And I don't know, I thought, I
like the trailer. I don't think it's going to be
a great movie, but I think it could be a

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really entertaining movie if you are not totally creeped out
by spiders.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Have I shared why I'm totally creeped out by spiders
on this podcast? I feel like I have.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
You might have. So. Ariel had to audition for a
movie and the casting director was a spider and was
really mean to her.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
No, no, no. I used to work as a janitor
and I had to clean the like a spider web
out of a doorway and there was like an egg nest.
So I took the breastpam dustpam in the broom and
I squished it and it was I guess ready about
ready to hatch because it opened up in hundreds of
baby spiders crawled up my arm and the mom bit
me and took forever to heal, And it was just
I felt like I was covered in spiders for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I had the same thing happened to me, but with scorpions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
So yeah, I don't like those either.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Yeah yeah, it was it shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
But but it does hit close to home because my
best friend my sister keeps jumping spiders, which are. They
can't bite you. They're not going to hurt you. Their
teeth are so small, right, I won't touch them. I
have learned to love them vicariously through her. I can
look at pictures of them without being freaked out. But
I'm not going to going to hold them and touch

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them or whatever. But they will frequently catch jumping spiders
out in the wild, and so the story of a
girl catching a spider in the wild and then it
turning killer is could happen. It could happen to my friends.
I don't want that to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
John, Well, let's move on to something that definitely is
not going to happen, because neither of us know anyone
with superpowers. We also got a trailer for Invincible season two,
Part two. They broke the season into two halves with
a long hiatus in the middle, and the second half
is coming to us soon. And we got a trailer

(01:08:31):
where we got to see a little bit of a
hint of stuff that's coming up, including Omni Man being
held accountable by the Vitruvians for his failure to prepare
the Earth for conquest. You get to see some stuff
that's going on back at Earth with the superhero group
and we get to see what appears to be a

(01:08:54):
funeral for perhaps Invincible himself.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Yeah, which all of that sounds pretty grim. Honestly, this
trailer made it seem like the second half was going
to be happier than the first half.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yeah, well, don't know why. We'll have to see because
I mean, it could just be they took the bits
that were the most comedic and left everything else out
for us to see. But uh, you know, we've both
been watching Invincible, We've both been keeping up with it,
so I'm still I'm very eager to see how season
two plays out. Like knowing the comic books a little bit,
I haven't read the comic books, but I read up

(01:09:27):
on them. There are elements of the story that was
told in the comic books that I'm very curious to
see if they are touched upon or if they play
out in the series.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Yeah. Yeah, Something else I'm looking forward to seeing is
Disney's a limited Disney's limited series. I think it's a limited.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
It is Awaji, Yes, I don't know, like because they
don't say it in the trailer, Like I was wondering,
I was trying to find the pronunciation it's it's a
Nigerian story. It's said it's set in a futuristic Nigeria
that's very reminiscent of Wakanda in the Marvel films. It's like,
you know, much more advanced technologies, and uh, yeah, it

(01:10:11):
looks like it's a it's a an adventure story that
mostly follows a young girl who gets wrapped up in
some some criminal shenanigans, only because this crime boss has
I think a deep interest in her father. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Yeah, it looks really cute because it looks it looks
like it looks like Black Panther, but it also looks
more like Slice of Life, maybe a little bit parts
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
It's it also features a robotic lizard that is capable
of turning into like one of the ThunderCats.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Yeah, but also the lizard has interest in eating, so
maybe it's like a cyborg.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, maybe it's a Yeah, it could be a same
board lizard. I think it looks cute. It's I like
that Disney is trying to tell different kinds of stories. Now,
they obviously had some mixed results with that, but I'm
glad to see them trying, even though I'm sure that

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this comes from a very corporate decision making process, but
it's still the result is still good. I want to
see more stories about communities that typically don't get this
kind of treatment in mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yeah. Yeah, same. Something I didn't think I was going
to be excited for, but it turns out I'm very
excited for is the X Men ninety seven show.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yes, this is a continuation of the animated series that
was on in the nineties, and we got a trailer
for the return of this, so it's it's you know,
it's not taking into account any of the X Men
stories from the films or anything. It's literally picking up
from the animated series that aired in the nineties, and

(01:12:10):
so we're getting, uh that series. We knew about this
because it had been announced already, but now that we've
seen the trailer, it really does feel like an updated
version of that style of animation.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah, but it still has the charm enough so that
I still have a crush on Oh my god, I
was gonna just left my head Gambit. Yeah, Bit, I
have it. I have a crush on Gambit and I
loved Jubilee was my favorite, so I was very excited.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Yeah, both of them show up in the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Yes, it makes it makes me happy. Lastly, uh, kind
of Lastly, Xbox in Dune are doing some collaborations. So
we talked last week about how people are kind of
worried about Xbox being in some trouble, and they've done
some stuff to make people believe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
That everybody's worried about Dune because of the popcorn bucket
that I fight because of them that I finally saw,
and now I understand, and now you understand.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
However, Microsoft is doing two things as a Dune collaboration.
One is there's a levitating Xbox controller, which I can
only imagine is going to get knocked off of people's
end tables by so many cats.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Yeah, it's it's clearly using magnetic levitation in order to
have the Xbox sit on a little platform that hovers
above a base a pedestal. Very cool effect, Like it's
something that you like. It makes me think of stuff
you would see in like the Sharper image or whatever.
But it's that sort of thing. And they're running a

(01:13:45):
contest actually where you can win one, and I thought
about entering it until I saw that in order to
enter it, you have to go on Twitter and you
have to follow them and retweet something. And I'm like,
I quit Twitter ages ago because it turned into to
a really hateful place and I don't want to do that.
So I got out and I read the rules just

(01:14:06):
to see if there was an alternative way to enter.
As far as I could tell, there's not. Like, Nope,
I'm not doing the Twitter thing. Don't judge anyone who does.
If you want to do it, that's that's totally cool.
It's just I am not going do Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Yeah. The second bit of Dune Microsoft crossover is there's
a free expansion for Microsoft Flight Simulator, which I didn't
even know still existed. Yeah, where you can learn to
take off land in free fall in Pauly Tranty's ornithopter
from Dune, the like the dragonfly looking aircraft before.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Going on a bunch of missions, and that you're actually
flying over a simulated aracus. Yeah. So the Microsoft Flight
Simulator it has enjoyed a huge resurgence because Microsoft put
in so much work to make very realistic simulated models
of airports all around the world, so you can learn

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how to fly different types of aircraft and actually take
legitimate flight routes between airports and in real time pilot
your craft. So if you wanted to do a flight
from Atlanta to Los Angeles, you could do that and
it would look a lot like what it would really
look like if you were flying it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Yeah, but you definitely shouldn't get behind the wheel of
a plane after you do that because you can't account
for things like wind shear.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
And I mean, they simulate it, but it's also you're
not feeling any of the turbulence when you're you're playing
a simulation. Also, you're likely, unless you've spent a lot
of money, you're likely not using the uh, you know,
realistic controllers and display systems that you would encounter in
an aircraft, so you're using, you know, obviously the simulated

(01:15:56):
versions of that. And anyway, I thought that they are racus.
Thing was really cool. It was a neat, neat sort
of a collaboration. Not something that I was expecting, and
I watched the video of it and it was it
was neat.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Yeah, I look forward to them adding more stuff like that.
That's about it that we have for now. We might
be taking another couple of weeks of breaks just due
to some travel that we're both doing. But if you're
wanting geeky stuff during that time if we aren't able
to do episodes those weeks, just giving you a heads
up for the next couple of weeks. I told you

(01:16:32):
guys earlier about my friend's game, Shadow City Mysteries A
Clockwork Noir that they're building. Well, now it's on Steam.
You can put it on your wish list and the
elevator pitch for it is. Shadow City Mysteries a Clockwork
Noir is a single player, third person narrative adventure game
that is Blade Runner by way of Lovecraft Country set
in Frank Millerson City with a new game plus twist.

(01:16:55):
It looks really cool. I know the people like I
personally know the people who are working on it. They
are freaking amazing at game theory, at game rules, at creativity.
I've larped with them, I tabletop with them. One of
them even wrote the class of character that Erykah played
on World Beyond Numbers like legit. I am super excited

(01:17:16):
about this game. I normally don't like promote stuff, but
put it on your wish list because it'll help them
If it sounds like something that is interesting to you,
so you can look into that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
While we're away cool.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Yeah, And if you want to reach out to us
to talk us, to us about any of the things
that we've talked about, or to share any fun geeky news,
you can do that. I will still be checking our
socials and email while I am traveling. Jonathan, how should
they reach out?

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
You got to throw a princess in a pit that
has a dragon in it, and then approximately twelve hours later,
I'll show up and ask you what you wanted to know,
and then I'm also going to show you a scrap
of singed dress and I'm going to look at you
with a lot of serious judgment in my eyes. But
it'll work.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
It'll it'll work. But if if you want to avoid
the judgment and you don't want to sacrifice the princess,
you can reach out to us on Twitter x. We
are on there, even though Jonathan is not. It's LyX
Underscore podcast. You can reach out to us on threads, Facebook,
Instagram at larger Neurdron Collider that's also our discord handle,
and uh. You can email us at large neurdron pot

(01:18:29):
at gmail dot com. We love hearing from you. Thank
you for listening. If we take a break, we can't
wait to come back and until next time. I have
been aerial spiders are ick cast.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
In, and I've been Jonathan. This princess is extra crispy. Strickland.
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