January 12, 2023 • 40 mins
Becca and Tanya are hanging out in the O.R. with Lo Bosworth! We look back at her time on Laguna Beach and The Hills and hear some unbelievable information about women’s health.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Ren and I
Heart Radio podcast. Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in for
a Thursday episode and we have a very special exciting
guest today joining us. Tanya do the honors. Well, you know,
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sometimes you hear the name low Bosworth and you might think,
where do I know this name from? I remember I
watched her on Laguna Beach. I saw her on the Hills.
But she is a founder and CEO of her own brand,
Love Wellness. She is also an author and she is
here with us today. Low Bosworth, Hi, thanks so much
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for happy me, Happy New Year, Happy year, Thanks for
joining us, Thanks for scrubbing in. Um Tanya is She
wrote us this morning in our group chat, and she
was like, am I obsessed with Low Bosworth? Yes? Yes,
I am? Well so I okay, so I too. I
know that this is your second book, so it's like,
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you know, you're you know the you know the established,
you're established, you know the name of the game. I
wrote a book and it was such a wild experience
for me and it's still continues because's not even out yet.
But um, I have so much respect for people that
write books, more so now seeing how much like work
goes in it behind the scenes. So, UM, I was
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reading the introduction. I think it was like the intro
to your book, and I kind of what led you
to your journey And I had a very similar experience,
um in my life too, kind of with like my
health and like having to stand up for myself and
like knowing something wasn't right and kind of um, going
through that same experience that you had. And so I
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think it's like really cool and awesome that you're sharing
and that so much as I come out of that
experience for you, because it's so true, I think that
you have to be your own biggest advocate when it
comes to like your health. Yeah, um, and yeah, thanks
for the background. I have a new book out. I'm
really excited. It's called Love Yourself Well and Empowering Wellness
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Guide to Supporting your gut, brain and vagina. And I
really put the book out, UM to support what we
do at Love Wellness, which we create total body care
for women, UM. But we do so in a really innovative,
science forward type of way. I think when you think
about the personal care category, for the last couple of decades,
a lot of products have been put out without a
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lot of merit. Right. It's like you know cleansers that
are full of fragrance, or you know douches or like
weird things right right, right, douches that have like all
these like chemicals that you're just shooting up there. Yeah, exactly.
And so you know, I started the company based on
my my own health journey. To your point, Um, I
have been working on the brand for eight years now
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and we have come so far. Um. We're actually in
the front of target right now, which is really exciting.
But when I started the company, I had all these
vitamin deficiencies and they were causing me to you know,
have depression anxiety. But then I also had like chronic
U t e s and infections and things like that.
And you know, it inspired me to start my business
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because I was not able to find great personal care
products out there that genuinely helped me move forward. Um.
And it really was a lot of you know, trial
and error. But to speak to the point about self advocacy,
you know, being in a female body, you have to
advocate for yourself every single day, and you really have
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to advocate for yourself in the health and wellness space,
right because when it comes to research on women's bodies
were so far behind men um and you know, it's
really interesting to me that brands like Love Wellness are
doing a lot of work when it comes to innovation
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in the category versus like you know, Big Farmer. You know,
I even talked to some of our medical advisors that
you help support the brand and some of the stuff
that we're talking about in terms of, you know, the
female microbiome and how it connects to the gut and
how it's connected to the brain. They're like, well, I'm
actually learning this from you. This was not in you know,
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my medical school teaching, which to me just like blows
my mind and fascinates me every single day that you know,
brands are out here doing a lot of work when
it comes to um, you know, innovation when it comes
to personal care. That's scary. Yeah, And like you were saying,
I was reading this like I was reading this thing
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where you were saying you it was like I think
it was a doctor friend of yours. It was somebody,
and you were saying that, like when you go in
for your yearly or whatever, they pencil in fifteen minutes
with every patient. So if you're going, You're like, yeah,
I'm fine. The doctors like okay, great, and then like
goes on their mary way. You know, you literally have
to say, like, know, like something's off. I feel something
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like this is you know, you have to really stand
up for yourself. And it's so so true, and I
think I've really felt that over the past. I'd say
like a handful of years. Yeah, I have something interesting
that I want to actually read from the book, and
it's right at chapter one, which is all about empowered
self advocacy. And so hysteria is defined as an over
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the top display of emotion by an unhinged individual or
crazed group of people in a mass hysteria situation. And
the roots of the word come from hystera, which is
Greek for uterus, and then female hysteria was included in
a Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, which is
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the official guide used by psychiatrists in the United States
until nineteen eight. So women of my mother's generation, if
they showed anger, sexual desire, aggression, that would be enough
to diagnose them as unwealth So that just goes to
show like how far we still have to go when
it comes to women's bodies, women's health, and how we
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advocate for ourselves. I mean our mom's, our mom's and grandma,
Like they didn't have a chance, honestly, Like even thinking
about my mom's mom, my grandma, she had breast cancer
and she knew something was off, and she went and
they didn't diagnose her until by the time she got diagnosed,
like it was stage four and she is alive and survived.
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But I mean, it was so frustrating knowing that, like
she had to advocate for herself in such a vulnerable
place because doctors were kind of you know, at a
certain point, if they're like we've never seen this before,
they go, it's okay, it's maybe it's mental or maybe
it's in your head. Yeah. I mean, it took me
when I was unwell, It took me eighteen months for
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a doctor to do a vitamin panel, Like that's the
most simple blood test you can do, right to like
check provided. It took eighteen months. It took me appointment
after appointment after appointment of coming in talking about my
symptoms and what I was experiencing for them finally after
eighteen months to be like, wow, let's run some bloodwork. Yeah,
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not right. Wow, when when you were like on the
when you were going through all this and decided to
talk about it publicly, did you have like, um, I
don't want to say fear, but like, were you anxious
because of your you know, what people know you for
and being UM on Laguna Beach in the hills and
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and people having like a name that people recognize and
then talking about something that was so personal and um
ultimately a vulnerable conversation or were you kind of like
I need to get the word out there, and if
I have the platform, I'm going to use it to
help other people. Yeah, you know, I think for me um,
being on TV allowed me to grow a really thick skin.
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But I also have learned the lesson that there's so
much power or in vulnerability, and that you learn that
lesson mostly through personal connections, right, like through relationships with people,
and when you allow yourself to open up, your relationships
get deeper and stronger, and you can learn more about somebody.
And I felt like when it comes to these types
of topics, right, personal care, gut health, all this stuff,
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everybody is embarrassed by these things, right, but they happened
to everybody, and so you take that combination of somebody
coming up in entertainment with a really thick skin and
somebody who believes in the power of vulnerability with a
platform and like a true, deep, sincere interest in the
subject matter, and to me, it's kind of the perfect
storm of you know, an individual who can have conversations
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like this with a female audience. And so for me, like,
of course, I was a little bit like embarrassed or
scared at the beginning. And trust me, when I started
the company in two the headlines were like all a
little bit like wink and a nod, like l O L.
This reality starts starting this personal care company. And I
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think back then that was two thousands sixteen. You know,
a lot of editors and journalists at the time didn't
even believe in the validity of like a vaginal care
routine from you know, probiotics to you know, vitamins and
things like that. They didn't even believe it to be
necessary per se. Right, And I think that we've come
a really long way in eight years because we are
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finally starting to acknowledge that living in these bodies in
three after basically like the lifetime of antibiotic use, you know,
over the counter pain kills, drinking preservatives, and food. All
of this stuff disrupts our microbiomes, and our gut microbiomes
are connected to our vaginas and to our our brains, right,
And so when you think about the reality of living
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in three like, a personal care routine does make sense
because we are constantly dealing with all of these environmental
things that can mess up our bodies that you know,
maybe it wasn't this way twenty year go or thirty
years ago. Don't get me started. I let me tell you.
I have been on this, like i'd say, maybe like
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the last four months, on like a very gnarly toxic
journey of like eliminating all the toxins in my life.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm barely scratching the surface. It
can be like very overwhelming, all of it. It is overwhelming.
And you know, when it comes to personal care, there's
actually a we have this five week plan in the
book that helps you, you know, basically heal your gut
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and by way of that, your brain and vagina because
the three organs are on an axis. A lot of
people have heard of the gut brain axis and that
they're connected, right, But the vagina is like a forgotten
third organ on that axis. Uh. They're connected by the
vagus nerve, the immune system, and the endocrine system. And
the science is fascinating and the book does a really
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fantastic job of kind of putting all of that research
together for the first time and making a pretty strong
case for taking care of your gut health above all.
And if you do that, you know, the other systems
in your body are going to be much happier. Um.
But anyway, sorry, that's where I'm at right now. That's
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where i'm at right now. I'm really just focusing on
the gut. And it's a mission. Quite the Uh, it's
quite the mission that I'm on. But I'm on it.
I am it is. It's really it's really interesting and
I think, oh, I remember what I was telling you
guys about. So in the book, Um, we have a
five week plan and part of the plan is sort
of to do a household clean out. And because we're
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focused on personal care, Uh, there's a list of ingredients
that you can look for on you know, your personal
care items that are actually really challenging from for female health,
whether they disrupt your hormones or disrupt your vaginal pH
I mean, the list goes on and on. Um, But
there's a lot of really spooky things out there in
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products that are like on the shelf at your farm
see grocery store, that a lot of people are using
every day causing them problems. And I don't realize that
like that could be the culprit or, you know, part
of the reason that they're getting chronic infections or having
some you know, the same type of the issue over
and over again, fatigue. I guarantee if I went home
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into the household clean out with whatever ingredients, I would
have zero things in my home for sure. I was
going to ask, though, like for people, I mean, I wait,
do you want to take a break really quick and
come back and ask Okay, okay, let's take a breaking up.
We'll be back, you know, me just running the ship
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over here. Yeah you really you really kept us on
track there. Um. I was going to ask for someone
who is not it, how would you describe me, like
the polar opposite of you. So someone has the opposite
of you and feels like it's a little overwhelming because
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it's like, okay, like here's the ingredients you should be
looking for that could be causing you know, problems in
in many areas of your health and body. Where does
someone start, like where without getting overwhelmed and feeling like
you have to do everything at once? Like, where does
someone like me start with you know this process? Yeah,
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So I think by understanding um that first the gut, brain,
vagina are connected, and that leaky gut um is one
of these sort of like a phenomenon that's anecdotally accepted
in the medical community, right, but a lot of people
know it to be true that is really the reason
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behind a lot of vaginal health issues and a lot
of mental health issues, but that it is possible to
heal the gut leak you got generally is caused by
some kind of food sensitivity um or antibiotic overuse, and
specifically the sensitivity is gluten for a lot of people.
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But it doesn't mean that you know you have celiac, right,
It's just that your body has some sensitivity to it.
And so what we talked about in the book is
that the best first step that you can take to
identifying what these inflammatory things are for you, because everybody
is different, right, is to do an elimination diet where
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you eliminate for a certain period of time things that
are like popular triggers, right, gluten, alcohol, some type of dairy.
You know, it's a it's a limit, it's a limited list.
And the idea, yeah, sugar. And the idea is is
that if you let's say you have a gluten problem, right, um,
but you're not Celiac. But if you consistently eat gluten
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over the course of thirty five years of your life,
your day, the reaction to it is probably not going
to be that noticeable or that significant like on that day,
but over time it could be. Right, so you're thinking
like fatigue, brain, fog, bloating, water, retention, whatever it might be.
If you eliminate gluten from your diet for four weeks,
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and then you get to the end of the elimination
diet and you're like, okay, I'm doing the reintroduction day,
which is the day that doctors advise you eat a
ton of whatever the problematic thing is in the hopes
that your body will have a very big reaction to
that possibly bad thing. And so that's really the point
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of an elimination diet and where I think all people
can start to identify what these inflammatory triggers are for them. Um,
there's tons of information about elimination diets out on the
internet or in our book, and they're all pretty standard
and easy to follow. And the ideas that they're not
supposed to like deprive you of things that you love forever.
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The idea is not supposed to be a weight loss diet.
It's to identify, like what's inflammatory for you that can
be causing leaky gut, which can then be causing these
other issues throughout your body. Right, it's about recognizing that
everything in the body is connected. What was the time
like what did you say? I don't even know if
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you said the timeframe of like how long the elimination diet?
Like how long if you're let's say you're starting with gluten,
how long do you eliminate that before you do the
day where you eat a bunch of it? Sure, so
we recommend in the book that the elimination part of
the diet lasts for about four weeks, and then on
week five is when you can start to reintroduce things.
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But let's say that you eliminate three fix, you eliminate sugar, gluten,
and dairy for four weeks, Right, goodbye, goodbye to me.
It's tough. It's hard, right, it's tough. But imagine if
you could, you know yourself, able to identify and heal
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something that's been causing you some kind of like chronic
discomfort for three years. Right, because you were disciplined for
four weeks. Okay, so you eliminate the three things for
four weeks, and then on week five you decided, Okay,
Sunday is the day that I'm gonna do gluten. But
you only want to add gluten back into the puzzle.
You don't want to combine gluten and dairy together because
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if you have a reaction, you won't know which inflammatory
thing caused it. Right, So you want to reintroduce the
potentially problematic thing in one at a time, and then
you want to wait a couple of days for any
potential inflammation to go back down before you introduce the
next potentially inflammatory thing. So you're really doing an experiment
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on your own body, right, You're like, Okay, I'm eliminating
all the things so that my uh, you know, inflammatory
responses are sort of like minimized. And then I'm going
to eat five bagels in one day to attempt to
create a negative reaction in my body, whether it's diarrhea
or crazy headaches or brain fag or whatever. And if
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that thing happens, you know, okay, gluten is a problem
for me, and you know that it could be one
of the underlying reasons that you are unwell in general
or you have for years. I'm definitely unwell, unwell. What
was it? What was I mean you're talking, I'm no
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I spiral because like I like, I actually really try
and I have hashimotos. So I've been like very keen
and like very aware of these things, and I eat generally.
I could buy organic food like fruits and vegetables, autoimmune
diet mostly, yeah, like anti inflammatory, gluten free, Like I'm
doing all the things, and then like I'll look at,
you know, all I'm making a lot more of my
own recipes and I'll put like, um, you know, cholula
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in something, and then I look at the cholula bottle
and I has all this stuff that I shouldn't be eating.
So it's like I'm like, it's so and I'm like
i feel like I'm there, and then I'm I'm not there,
you know, I'm getting there, but I'm like it's very frustrating.
What you mean? My my friend, UM, Jeanine Higbee, she's
the certified nutritionus that actually put the five week plan together.
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She told me though, she was like it like the
amount of bad thing that you put in your body
does matter a training little bit in a sauce, like
it's not going to care so much of people versus
eating six bagels right right right? But I was allowances
are okay. I was interested because when I was reading
you said that, um, that you we're going through like
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a your relationship was like failing, like your relationship, like
you broke up? Right? Yeah, yes, are you dating? Or
like I know nothing about your personal life. It's it's
because I never talked about my personal life on the internet,
like on her Instagram, I didn't see anything. I was like,
I don't know if she's because I could see if
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in the book that you broke up with this guy.
So I was like, I wonder if she's doating now,
And so I like went and was look in through
your stories and I saw no hint of anything. M yes,
but I just don't put it on the internet. But yeah,
this person, this guy that I was eating, we broke up.
Uh got in twenty sixteen. I guess yeah, and that's
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like back when I put my relationships on the internet.
But I just don't anymore. You know. It's like I
already I have a complicated relationship with the internet, I know,
but it's like started, I've started to do more TikTok's,
and like TikTok is a terrifying place. People just come
for your jugular. They don't care any like this conversation
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because I was saying, like, typically on Instagram and stuff,
it's the people who follow you who comment because they're
like you know, they're choosing to follow you for a reason.
But TikTok, it could be put on the four you page.
It's just people who just are there to comment. Hey,
I don't care to do so do you do it
more to protect your you're like partner or more just
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like to protect my like peace and my private life.
I feel like I'm already talking about like vaginal health
on the internet, Like I don't need to like share
everything about me, you know what I mean. But I'm
just saying like that it doesn't bother him. What okay, okay?
Because like for me, if I mean, my boyfriend is
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not in the industry at all. I mean he has
on Instagram, and it's like, you know what I mean,
he's not I don't know how to explain not in
the industry or it really cares about it much. But
if he didn't post me on his Instagram, I'd be
like kind of bummed. I'd be like, why are you
hiding me? Yeah, I just like I don't know, it's different. Yeah,
And like I just started dating something new and so
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it's like I don't think we're there yet. But like
even people that I've dated in the last year, I
haven't I have I'm not. I'm just like not chronicling
my love life online. It's just like it's not for me.
I've been in my relationship on this five years and
we just were public this year. Like we kept it
off the um, like off social media, and I will
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say like there was something. By the time when we
did it, we had been together for over four years,
so we felt very strong, like there was. It was
kind of like, all right, if this is great, great,
and if it's not, then we'll just we're scale back again. Yeah,
We're good. Yeah. I was just like, I don't know,
I already feel so exposed all the time, Like I
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just don't think it's necessary to like add that extra layer. Yeah, no,
I get it. I was just because I was like
really like, I was like, oh my gosh, she probably yeah,
And I was like, oh, she dating somebody. I was like,
I don't know, Like did she have kids? I don't know.
I was like looking through, Yeah, I don't have children,
but if I do, I don't think I'm going to
like put it on the internet. I'm just like, oh why, Yeah,
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I definitely get that. And the more things I see
about that topic, the more I'm like, if I do
ever have kids, I don't know that you're gonna show
their faces? Yea ever um, Like, I get it. It's fun,
but no, no, no, it's very much like to each
his own. But it's also I also think that you
have been in the public eye for a long enough
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time where you know the like ups and the downs
of it all, and you're like, yes, you're talking to
a girl who grew up on reality tep so like,
so true, it's so true. I have experienced. Are you
still like super close with everyone that you're on Like
are you close where like you text on a regular
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basis or is it kind of like, oh, we see
each other at events and like every now and then.
I mean, I've lived in New York for eleven years, um,
and so having a entire country physically separate you from people,
I think like makes relationships grow apart. But I think
I'm still on good terms with everybody on the show,
especially like everybody from Laguna that I grew up with,
Like you know, everybody goes home for Thanksgiving and stuff,
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and yeah, I feel like it's like a friendly community
and we have this like mutual shared experience that was
so bizarre. Yeah, it's like funny sometimes because you always
like I feel like people probably ask you like are
you still friends with all of them? And it's like
who are you still friends with from high school? Like
I think that I have like two friends still from
high school. Well yeah, but I wasn't broadcast, but I'm
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saying for like the Castle are gonna beats and stuff.
They make a thing of it, like, oh you don't
keep in touch with like, well know, a lot of
people lose touch after high school. It's like normal, Yeah,
I would say it's pretty normal. I mean I'm still
friendly and on good terms with Are you listening to
back to the beach that no people dom e. They're like,
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are you going on? I was like, I don't know,
Like I don't think so I haven't. I'm not caught up.
I started listening to it, and I do find it
all very interesting because they're like sharing the behind the
scenes of kind of like what actually went down, and like,
I find it to be very interesting because I I
watched it back in the day, but I still don't.
I don't remember what didn't retain a lot of it,
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So it's like kind of kind of like reliving it
all very interesting. You watched, ever, I haven't. But when
you say, like you, I can't remember like you if you,
I don't think I could actually remember necessarily what was
like real and not real. You know, at this point,
it's like it's more than fifteen years ago, twenty years
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it's like twenty years ago. And sure there's like things
pieces that I remember here and there, and I'm sure
if I watched episodes it would like trigger my memory,
but I don't know. I like this sense. Yeah, you know,
also when I joined the show, when they when I
decided to participate in Laguna and sort of carried over
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to the hills Um. I said to the executive producers,
I said, I will agree to do this, but I
don't want to like deet people on IMA or have
my relationship, and so I made it clear before I
was hired. But like I was okay sort of being
somebody who is off to the side, like I think,
and I think that comes from just being a kid,
not being comfortable enough in my own skin yet like
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want to date somebody on national TV. But that was
the deal that I had with Adam Devello. I was like,
I'm not gonna like go on dates for you a
national TV and so a lot of the like behind
the scenes manipulation that like other people talk about, I
was never even included into because like I just like,
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I'm not like the revocal point of this so interesting?
Did you when you were starting your company was it
hard for did people like not take because I'm sure
you have like meetings with investors and stuff like that,
to people not take you as seriously because you came
from like a reality show. Well you know, so I
had some savings when I first started the company, and
I bootstrapped the company myself, so I operated by myself
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for the first two years entirely. I did every single job,
and by the time I went out to raise money,
we had some really great proof points and the business
was doing well. So um, everybody took me very seriously.
That's great. But your business is doing well and it's profitable,
and like you've been able to grow it, you know,
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with a really small team. Bootstrap. People do not care
where you come from. They're just like, oh, this is
really interesting. So yeah, yeah, I actually it's been a
really positive experience for me. We're private equity backed. I've
raised twenty five million dollars. You know, we're we're like
really know to do this, Like I I I when
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people like make their own create their own companies and businesses,
and like, we're like, what do you She was saying.
It wasn't out there, so she was like, well, no,
I know, but I mean, like like the actual building business. Yeah,
you know. I I learned through trial and error like
any first time founder does. And you know, interestingly enough,
coming from the entertainment industry, every individual person is kind
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of their own little mini ceo, right, Like you guys
are too right, you know, you have your own show,
you have careers and back in the day, before I
started a wellness, I was creating content and essentially, you know,
living off of money I was making by doing paid
advertising and things like that. And so in that way,
you already are your own little business, right, And so
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then I just chose to apply it to consumer products,
And it wasn't that far of a stretch, right, But
I've had tons of guidance and help over the past
couple of years. Right, you know, I have a team
of over thirty employees at this at this point, so
like there's there's no universe in which you do this,
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Like when you operate a business of this scale by yourself,
what's like literally impossible. Best tip? What's like the best
tip you could give if there's somebody listening that wants
to start their own company. Right now, I think that's
starting a business in a lot of ways has become
much more democratized because of things you can access on
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the internet. Right, technology is cheap and affordable. You know,
you can even get like products kind of cheap and
affordable now, and you can test out an idea without
making a huge investment and without quitting your job. Right,
A lot of people have side hustles, and I think
It's really easy these days to test and learn in
a pretty affordable environment to understand do I have something
(29:32):
here that people actually want before you like go completely
change your life right, Like you can have a Shopify
website up in like an hour for I think fourteen
You know, if you are willing to do the research
and put in some time and energy to get started,
there is a lot there are many tools out there
that are affordable and accessible now that we're not ten
(29:53):
years ago. What's your goal? Like where do you see
the company going from this point on? Like are you
do you love the like book writing process or you
like do more products? More education? Like where do you
see it? Because I'm thinking of you and I'm seeing like,
um like goop like that orkind of it being like
you know what I'm saying is that what do you see?
(30:16):
You know? I think for us, education is really major.
It's a primary focus. And having the book out now,
like and being able to provide people with the science
and you know, an actual book you can read outside
of just like blog articles and stuff like this all
over the place. I think creates a validity to what
we're doing. And so anybody that's like why you why
(30:38):
this brand. I can be like, here's all research, go
read it. You know, this is what we operate off of.
And so I think for me, you know, I was
talking to my marketing team about an upcoming campaign that
we have that's focused on national health and sort of
like myth busting around like common vaginal health topics, and
I was like, I was getting to the point that
(30:58):
I made almost at the beginning of the show. It's like,
why do you need a vaginal health routine? Like most
people probably think, you know, that's stupid, right, Like that's
you know, a company trying to sell me things. But
the reality is like we live in a very different
world than we did, you know, five tents fifteen, twenty
years ago, and our needs evolve over time, and you know,
(31:23):
I don't know, so you're saying, like the like book
and getting education out there is like where Yeah, I
think that is like extremely important to me. I think
that there's so much education that still needs to be
done on the subject matter, and we're still in relatively
limited distribution in the United States. Were you know, on Lovelamas,
(31:46):
dot Com, Amazon, Alta and Target and international, I think
would be a huge accomplishment, right, because that we can
sort of like take our education internationally. Sorry, the sun
is like just starting to come to my apartment at
a weird angle. Um, and people email us every day
from like all over being like when is level on
this coming here? Because they see the consumer response in
(32:08):
the United States is so positive to the brand and
you can go and read all these reviews, so, you know,
changing people's lives because what we've created is legitimately based
in science and biology and so it works, and so
I think ultimately, you know, building it into an internationally
accessible brand is my goal. Yeah, it is true though,
(32:30):
like when you start discovering things and things start like
working clicking for you and your body, like it really
like I'm the same way. Like I remember I was
getting chronic U t e s and my guy knows
were just over the phone. Was when COVID was you know,
couldn't go into your doctors. There was like prescribing me
annabout after annabout. I was taking them like once a month,
and I was like this is not even I was
like something's up here, like this is not right. And
(32:53):
then I started asking questions, going to public floor physical therapy,
getting like other people involved and realized that it was
phantom symptoms. I wasn't actually having U T eyes and
I was taking antibiotics for like six months that I
didn't need to be, and so I started doing making
all these changes, and now I'm like screaming it from
the rooftops, like use your menstrual cop don't use clean
and free detergents, you know, like don't use us, Like,
(33:18):
don't use because I was using was I was using
like tied up until like four years ago. I'm like
having gnarly U t I s, you know what I mean,
Like just like little tweaks and things that really changed
my life. So I bet it's probably like times ten
for you because you have like this whole brand that
you've really built and like you've seen the fruit of
(33:41):
it in your own life. So it's like you just
want to shout it from the rooftops. Yeah we do. Yeah,
we tried to go international. Yeah, everywhere I get, we
do it on TikTok and people make fun of us relentlessly,
But it's okay. They'll come around one day. Yeah they
will just takes one one experience and one U T
(34:04):
I they're having, and they'll wait, what was that website
that I was making, that I was trolling. Yeah, I
need their info. Yeah exactly. Then they're going to get
a yeast infection and be like, wait, I gotta go
back to Low well Thank you for taking the time
to us and educate well me specifically. But I do
want to um ask like where people can follow you,
(34:26):
where people can buy the book and the products and
learn everything. Yeah, absolutely so. Love Wellness is available um
at Target front of store right now, which is really exciting,
at Alta nationwide, Amazon and love wannas dot com, and
the book is available at booksellers nationwide, and then you
can find us just on the handles that you expect.
(34:48):
Love Wallness and Love bosworthontiue talk Instagram, Low Bosworth Instagram,
TikTok and Love Wellness Instagram TikTok. Thank you so much
meeting and chatting with you. She does it all. She
doesn't thank you both. It was such a pleasure. Thank
you so much. Bye bye. You know, I have a
(35:22):
lot of work to do if I'm gonna live this
lifestyle you gals are living. It's a lot of work.
Let me tell you, it is a lot of work.
I think there's probably a happy medium somewhere the baby
happy medium. I think, are you I think so. I
think you're maybe not extreme. I don't think you're at
the like one end, but your medium. I still live
(35:43):
my life. I just live it differently. But like a
zero to ten. Becca's zero five, I'm like a five. No,
I think you were like a seven, and maybe Becca
is like a three. To take. Tom is powdered doughnuts
from her desk the other day, like three of them,
(36:04):
three of the packs of three. Who knows how long?
Like those things last, like they have no expiration day,
like that they're always fresh. No, they're stuff with so
many preservatives. It's like dealing with a child. But zero,
I think. I think at least like a point five zero.
(36:25):
Hailey Cook's healthy and I eat her face to five
point to five Okay when she got when she leaves
you on tour, I'll be negative three probably, But right
now I would give myself a point five to one.
You know what, I just found out that I'm going
to get the name of the podcast. There's a podcast
and some guy um like tells you what all the
(36:47):
fast food restaurants actually serve in their ingredients of what
their ingredients actually are, and it's like insects and like
weird stuff. I just don't care, Like that doesn't care,
not care about what you're in your body? I how
do you not care? Like no, not, it's not that
Like I'm just saying this specific like I know it's
(37:08):
not good. So like knowing specifics, I'm just going to
be like, oh, and I might get gross out, which
could be good because then I'll be like, oh, I
can't eat that's gross. But like, in general, I know
it's not good, so like I already know it's not good,
so I'm saying I don't know what I mean. Insects
is pretty intense, so it's not gonna stop you. Though.
(37:28):
It's not gonna slow you down. Insects might stop me. Yes.
The podcast is called Food Labels Revealed. There's a book
called Fast Food Ingredients Revealed. What are you eating? That's
what we're talking about. Mel Wine state, my policy always
used to be if it tastes good and it doesn't
make me vomit, I'm cool. Yeah, but I think I've
come off that a bit over the years. What is
(37:50):
it now? Uh, there's more. Well, there's a lot of
things that cause stomach upset, and so I I My
policy on that is avoid them, because as I could
take a lactaid like my daughter does for almost everything,
I could take a lactaid and then eat whatever I want,
but the things that are causing problems aren't good for
me to begin with. So my policy is avoid the lactad.
(38:12):
Listen to my body. My policy is eliminate inflammatory oils
xanthem gum. Yeah, I feel like an eight maybe pollutant,
what else? It's pretty much those the big ones. Yeah,
those are big because like everything causes inflammation. On New
(38:36):
Year's Eve, I took a break from the this whole everything,
and like, um, there was a dessert thing I love.
I love them and they had an entire trade. It's
like all these different flavors. You should have seen me
as I was like having the best time ever, just
(38:58):
having every different and some of them were dipped in chocolate,
so good. And then the next morning I had a
bite of a pancake. I was like, wow, but one bite,
well too, maybe three. I was gonna say, I know
she had half the pancakes, so I didn't. I didn't.
You guys, probably I didn't. Okay, if you did though
(39:19):
I didn't. But but I'm just saying I took a
little bit of a macouts are not gluten free. I cannot. Oh,
we gotta go. She's gonna try and squeeze it in
way too many more times, so I gotta go. We
love you so much, have a wonderful weekend, Have a
(39:42):
wonderful weekend, and we'll be back on Monday. We sure will,
because you know why, don't please don't. We are consistent.
We are that consistent cousin of yours that just shows
up every Friday for Shabbat dinner. You know that cousin
that shows up with a big tray of mat tw
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Ren and I
Heart Radio podcast. Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in for
a Thursday episode and we have a very special exciting
guest today joining us. Tanya do the honors. Well, you know,
(00:22):
sometimes you hear the name low Bosworth and you might think,
where do I know this name from? I remember I
watched her on Laguna Beach. I saw her on the Hills.
But she is a founder and CEO of her own brand,
Love Wellness. She is also an author and she is
here with us today. Low Bosworth, Hi, thanks so much
(00:44):
for happy me, Happy New Year, Happy year, Thanks for
joining us, Thanks for scrubbing in. Um Tanya is She
wrote us this morning in our group chat, and she
was like, am I obsessed with Low Bosworth? Yes? Yes,
I am? Well so I okay, so I too. I
know that this is your second book, so it's like,
(01:06):
you know, you're you know the you know the established,
you're established, you know the name of the game. I
wrote a book and it was such a wild experience
for me and it's still continues because's not even out yet.
But um, I have so much respect for people that
write books, more so now seeing how much like work
goes in it behind the scenes. So, UM, I was
(01:29):
reading the introduction. I think it was like the intro
to your book, and I kind of what led you
to your journey And I had a very similar experience,
um in my life too, kind of with like my
health and like having to stand up for myself and
like knowing something wasn't right and kind of um, going
through that same experience that you had. And so I
(01:50):
think it's like really cool and awesome that you're sharing
and that so much as I come out of that
experience for you, because it's so true, I think that
you have to be your own biggest advocate when it
comes to like your health. Yeah, um, and yeah, thanks
for the background. I have a new book out. I'm
really excited. It's called Love Yourself Well and Empowering Wellness
(02:13):
Guide to Supporting your gut, brain and vagina. And I
really put the book out, UM to support what we
do at Love Wellness, which we create total body care
for women, UM. But we do so in a really innovative,
science forward type of way. I think when you think
about the personal care category, for the last couple of decades,
a lot of products have been put out without a
(02:34):
lot of merit. Right. It's like you know cleansers that
are full of fragrance, or you know douches or like
weird things right right, right, douches that have like all
these like chemicals that you're just shooting up there. Yeah, exactly.
And so you know, I started the company based on
my my own health journey. To your point, Um, I
have been working on the brand for eight years now
(02:55):
and we have come so far. Um. We're actually in
the front of target right now, which is really exciting.
But when I started the company, I had all these
vitamin deficiencies and they were causing me to you know,
have depression anxiety. But then I also had like chronic
U t e s and infections and things like that.
And you know, it inspired me to start my business
(03:17):
because I was not able to find great personal care
products out there that genuinely helped me move forward. Um.
And it really was a lot of you know, trial
and error. But to speak to the point about self advocacy,
you know, being in a female body, you have to
advocate for yourself every single day, and you really have
(03:40):
to advocate for yourself in the health and wellness space,
right because when it comes to research on women's bodies
were so far behind men um and you know, it's
really interesting to me that brands like Love Wellness are
doing a lot of work when it comes to innovation
(04:01):
in the category versus like you know, Big Farmer. You know,
I even talked to some of our medical advisors that
you help support the brand and some of the stuff
that we're talking about in terms of, you know, the
female microbiome and how it connects to the gut and
how it's connected to the brain. They're like, well, I'm
actually learning this from you. This was not in you know,
(04:21):
my medical school teaching, which to me just like blows
my mind and fascinates me every single day that you know,
brands are out here doing a lot of work when
it comes to um, you know, innovation when it comes
to personal care. That's scary. Yeah, And like you were saying,
I was reading this like I was reading this thing
(04:42):
where you were saying you it was like I think
it was a doctor friend of yours. It was somebody,
and you were saying that, like when you go in
for your yearly or whatever, they pencil in fifteen minutes
with every patient. So if you're going, You're like, yeah,
I'm fine. The doctors like okay, great, and then like
goes on their mary way. You know, you literally have
to say, like, know, like something's off. I feel something
(05:03):
like this is you know, you have to really stand
up for yourself. And it's so so true, and I
think I've really felt that over the past. I'd say
like a handful of years. Yeah, I have something interesting
that I want to actually read from the book, and
it's right at chapter one, which is all about empowered
self advocacy. And so hysteria is defined as an over
(05:25):
the top display of emotion by an unhinged individual or
crazed group of people in a mass hysteria situation. And
the roots of the word come from hystera, which is
Greek for uterus, and then female hysteria was included in
a Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, which is
(05:47):
the official guide used by psychiatrists in the United States
until nineteen eight. So women of my mother's generation, if
they showed anger, sexual desire, aggression, that would be enough
to diagnose them as unwealth So that just goes to
show like how far we still have to go when
it comes to women's bodies, women's health, and how we
(06:09):
advocate for ourselves. I mean our mom's, our mom's and grandma,
Like they didn't have a chance, honestly, Like even thinking
about my mom's mom, my grandma, she had breast cancer
and she knew something was off, and she went and
they didn't diagnose her until by the time she got diagnosed,
like it was stage four and she is alive and survived.
(06:30):
But I mean, it was so frustrating knowing that, like
she had to advocate for herself in such a vulnerable
place because doctors were kind of you know, at a
certain point, if they're like we've never seen this before,
they go, it's okay, it's maybe it's mental or maybe
it's in your head. Yeah. I mean, it took me
when I was unwell, It took me eighteen months for
(06:53):
a doctor to do a vitamin panel, Like that's the
most simple blood test you can do, right to like
check provided. It took eighteen months. It took me appointment
after appointment after appointment of coming in talking about my
symptoms and what I was experiencing for them finally after
eighteen months to be like, wow, let's run some bloodwork. Yeah,
(07:14):
not right. Wow, when when you were like on the
when you were going through all this and decided to
talk about it publicly, did you have like, um, I
don't want to say fear, but like, were you anxious
because of your you know, what people know you for
and being UM on Laguna Beach in the hills and
(07:36):
and people having like a name that people recognize and
then talking about something that was so personal and um
ultimately a vulnerable conversation or were you kind of like
I need to get the word out there, and if
I have the platform, I'm going to use it to
help other people. Yeah, you know, I think for me um,
being on TV allowed me to grow a really thick skin.
(07:56):
But I also have learned the lesson that there's so
much power or in vulnerability, and that you learn that
lesson mostly through personal connections, right, like through relationships with people,
and when you allow yourself to open up, your relationships
get deeper and stronger, and you can learn more about somebody.
And I felt like when it comes to these types
of topics, right, personal care, gut health, all this stuff,
(08:18):
everybody is embarrassed by these things, right, but they happened
to everybody, and so you take that combination of somebody
coming up in entertainment with a really thick skin and
somebody who believes in the power of vulnerability with a
platform and like a true, deep, sincere interest in the
subject matter, and to me, it's kind of the perfect
storm of you know, an individual who can have conversations
(08:41):
like this with a female audience. And so for me, like,
of course, I was a little bit like embarrassed or
scared at the beginning. And trust me, when I started
the company in two the headlines were like all a
little bit like wink and a nod, like l O L.
This reality starts starting this personal care company. And I
(09:02):
think back then that was two thousands sixteen. You know,
a lot of editors and journalists at the time didn't
even believe in the validity of like a vaginal care
routine from you know, probiotics to you know, vitamins and
things like that. They didn't even believe it to be
necessary per se. Right, And I think that we've come
a really long way in eight years because we are
(09:24):
finally starting to acknowledge that living in these bodies in
three after basically like the lifetime of antibiotic use, you know,
over the counter pain kills, drinking preservatives, and food. All
of this stuff disrupts our microbiomes, and our gut microbiomes
are connected to our vaginas and to our our brains, right,
And so when you think about the reality of living
(09:46):
in three like, a personal care routine does make sense
because we are constantly dealing with all of these environmental
things that can mess up our bodies that you know,
maybe it wasn't this way twenty year go or thirty
years ago. Don't get me started. I let me tell you.
I have been on this, like i'd say, maybe like
(10:08):
the last four months, on like a very gnarly toxic
journey of like eliminating all the toxins in my life.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm barely scratching the surface. It
can be like very overwhelming, all of it. It is overwhelming.
And you know, when it comes to personal care, there's
actually a we have this five week plan in the
book that helps you, you know, basically heal your gut
(10:30):
and by way of that, your brain and vagina because
the three organs are on an axis. A lot of
people have heard of the gut brain axis and that
they're connected, right, But the vagina is like a forgotten
third organ on that axis. Uh. They're connected by the
vagus nerve, the immune system, and the endocrine system. And
the science is fascinating and the book does a really
(10:52):
fantastic job of kind of putting all of that research
together for the first time and making a pretty strong
case for taking care of your gut health above all.
And if you do that, you know, the other systems
in your body are going to be much happier. Um.
But anyway, sorry, that's where I'm at right now. That's
(11:13):
where i'm at right now. I'm really just focusing on
the gut. And it's a mission. Quite the Uh, it's
quite the mission that I'm on. But I'm on it.
I am it is. It's really it's really interesting and
I think, oh, I remember what I was telling you
guys about. So in the book, Um, we have a
five week plan and part of the plan is sort
of to do a household clean out. And because we're
(11:35):
focused on personal care, Uh, there's a list of ingredients
that you can look for on you know, your personal
care items that are actually really challenging from for female health,
whether they disrupt your hormones or disrupt your vaginal pH
I mean, the list goes on and on. Um, But
there's a lot of really spooky things out there in
(11:56):
products that are like on the shelf at your farm
see grocery store, that a lot of people are using
every day causing them problems. And I don't realize that
like that could be the culprit or, you know, part
of the reason that they're getting chronic infections or having
some you know, the same type of the issue over
and over again, fatigue. I guarantee if I went home
(12:17):
into the household clean out with whatever ingredients, I would
have zero things in my home for sure. I was
going to ask, though, like for people, I mean, I wait,
do you want to take a break really quick and
come back and ask Okay, okay, let's take a breaking up.
We'll be back, you know, me just running the ship
(12:50):
over here. Yeah you really you really kept us on
track there. Um. I was going to ask for someone
who is not it, how would you describe me, like
the polar opposite of you. So someone has the opposite
of you and feels like it's a little overwhelming because
(13:11):
it's like, okay, like here's the ingredients you should be
looking for that could be causing you know, problems in
in many areas of your health and body. Where does
someone start, like where without getting overwhelmed and feeling like
you have to do everything at once? Like, where does
someone like me start with you know this process? Yeah,
(13:32):
So I think by understanding um that first the gut, brain,
vagina are connected, and that leaky gut um is one
of these sort of like a phenomenon that's anecdotally accepted
in the medical community, right, but a lot of people
know it to be true that is really the reason
(13:53):
behind a lot of vaginal health issues and a lot
of mental health issues, but that it is possible to
heal the gut leak you got generally is caused by
some kind of food sensitivity um or antibiotic overuse, and
specifically the sensitivity is gluten for a lot of people.
(14:14):
But it doesn't mean that you know you have celiac, right,
It's just that your body has some sensitivity to it.
And so what we talked about in the book is
that the best first step that you can take to
identifying what these inflammatory things are for you, because everybody
is different, right, is to do an elimination diet where
(14:35):
you eliminate for a certain period of time things that
are like popular triggers, right, gluten, alcohol, some type of dairy.
You know, it's a it's a limit, it's a limited list.
And the idea, yeah, sugar. And the idea is is
that if you let's say you have a gluten problem, right, um,
but you're not Celiac. But if you consistently eat gluten
(14:56):
over the course of thirty five years of your life,
your day, the reaction to it is probably not going
to be that noticeable or that significant like on that day,
but over time it could be. Right, so you're thinking
like fatigue, brain, fog, bloating, water, retention, whatever it might be.
If you eliminate gluten from your diet for four weeks,
(15:18):
and then you get to the end of the elimination
diet and you're like, okay, I'm doing the reintroduction day,
which is the day that doctors advise you eat a
ton of whatever the problematic thing is in the hopes
that your body will have a very big reaction to
that possibly bad thing. And so that's really the point
(15:40):
of an elimination diet and where I think all people
can start to identify what these inflammatory triggers are for them. Um,
there's tons of information about elimination diets out on the
internet or in our book, and they're all pretty standard
and easy to follow. And the ideas that they're not
supposed to like deprive you of things that you love forever.
(16:02):
The idea is not supposed to be a weight loss diet.
It's to identify, like what's inflammatory for you that can
be causing leaky gut, which can then be causing these
other issues throughout your body. Right, it's about recognizing that
everything in the body is connected. What was the time
like what did you say? I don't even know if
(16:23):
you said the timeframe of like how long the elimination diet?
Like how long if you're let's say you're starting with gluten,
how long do you eliminate that before you do the
day where you eat a bunch of it? Sure, so
we recommend in the book that the elimination part of
the diet lasts for about four weeks, and then on
week five is when you can start to reintroduce things.
(16:43):
But let's say that you eliminate three fix, you eliminate sugar, gluten,
and dairy for four weeks, Right, goodbye, goodbye to me.
It's tough. It's hard, right, it's tough. But imagine if
you could, you know yourself, able to identify and heal
(17:04):
something that's been causing you some kind of like chronic
discomfort for three years. Right, because you were disciplined for
four weeks. Okay, so you eliminate the three things for
four weeks, and then on week five you decided, Okay,
Sunday is the day that I'm gonna do gluten. But
you only want to add gluten back into the puzzle.
You don't want to combine gluten and dairy together because
(17:25):
if you have a reaction, you won't know which inflammatory
thing caused it. Right, So you want to reintroduce the
potentially problematic thing in one at a time, and then
you want to wait a couple of days for any
potential inflammation to go back down before you introduce the
next potentially inflammatory thing. So you're really doing an experiment
(17:47):
on your own body, right, You're like, Okay, I'm eliminating
all the things so that my uh, you know, inflammatory
responses are sort of like minimized. And then I'm going
to eat five bagels in one day to attempt to
create a negative reaction in my body, whether it's diarrhea
or crazy headaches or brain fag or whatever. And if
(18:08):
that thing happens, you know, okay, gluten is a problem
for me, and you know that it could be one
of the underlying reasons that you are unwell in general
or you have for years. I'm definitely unwell, unwell. What
was it? What was I mean you're talking, I'm no
(18:29):
I spiral because like I like, I actually really try
and I have hashimotos. So I've been like very keen
and like very aware of these things, and I eat generally.
I could buy organic food like fruits and vegetables, autoimmune
diet mostly, yeah, like anti inflammatory, gluten free, Like I'm
doing all the things, and then like I'll look at,
you know, all I'm making a lot more of my
own recipes and I'll put like, um, you know, cholula
(18:51):
in something, and then I look at the cholula bottle
and I has all this stuff that I shouldn't be eating.
So it's like I'm like, it's so and I'm like
i feel like I'm there, and then I'm I'm not there,
you know, I'm getting there, but I'm like it's very frustrating.
What you mean? My my friend, UM, Jeanine Higbee, she's
the certified nutritionus that actually put the five week plan together.
(19:13):
She told me though, she was like it like the
amount of bad thing that you put in your body
does matter a training little bit in a sauce, like
it's not going to care so much of people versus
eating six bagels right right right? But I was allowances
are okay. I was interested because when I was reading
you said that, um, that you we're going through like
(19:35):
a your relationship was like failing, like your relationship, like
you broke up? Right? Yeah, yes, are you dating? Or
like I know nothing about your personal life. It's it's
because I never talked about my personal life on the internet,
like on her Instagram, I didn't see anything. I was like,
I don't know if she's because I could see if
(19:56):
in the book that you broke up with this guy.
So I was like, I wonder if she's doating now,
And so I like went and was look in through
your stories and I saw no hint of anything. M yes,
but I just don't put it on the internet. But yeah,
this person, this guy that I was eating, we broke up.
Uh got in twenty sixteen. I guess yeah, and that's
(20:18):
like back when I put my relationships on the internet.
But I just don't anymore. You know. It's like I
already I have a complicated relationship with the internet, I know,
but it's like started, I've started to do more TikTok's,
and like TikTok is a terrifying place. People just come
for your jugular. They don't care any like this conversation
(20:39):
because I was saying, like, typically on Instagram and stuff,
it's the people who follow you who comment because they're
like you know, they're choosing to follow you for a reason.
But TikTok, it could be put on the four you page.
It's just people who just are there to comment. Hey,
I don't care to do so do you do it
more to protect your you're like partner or more just
(21:03):
like to protect my like peace and my private life.
I feel like I'm already talking about like vaginal health
on the internet, Like I don't need to like share
everything about me, you know what I mean. But I'm
just saying like that it doesn't bother him. What okay, okay?
Because like for me, if I mean, my boyfriend is
(21:23):
not in the industry at all. I mean he has
on Instagram, and it's like, you know what I mean,
he's not I don't know how to explain not in
the industry or it really cares about it much. But
if he didn't post me on his Instagram, I'd be
like kind of bummed. I'd be like, why are you
hiding me? Yeah, I just like I don't know, it's different. Yeah,
And like I just started dating something new and so
(21:44):
it's like I don't think we're there yet. But like
even people that I've dated in the last year, I
haven't I have I'm not. I'm just like not chronicling
my love life online. It's just like it's not for me.
I've been in my relationship on this five years and
we just were public this year. Like we kept it
off the um, like off social media, and I will
(22:08):
say like there was something. By the time when we
did it, we had been together for over four years,
so we felt very strong, like there was. It was
kind of like, all right, if this is great, great,
and if it's not, then we'll just we're scale back again. Yeah,
We're good. Yeah. I was just like, I don't know,
I already feel so exposed all the time, Like I
(22:30):
just don't think it's necessary to like add that extra layer. Yeah, no,
I get it. I was just because I was like
really like, I was like, oh my gosh, she probably yeah,
And I was like, oh, she dating somebody. I was like,
I don't know, Like did she have kids? I don't know.
I was like looking through, Yeah, I don't have children,
but if I do, I don't think I'm going to
like put it on the internet. I'm just like, oh why, Yeah,
(22:56):
I definitely get that. And the more things I see
about that topic, the more I'm like, if I do
ever have kids, I don't know that you're gonna show
their faces? Yea ever um, Like, I get it. It's fun,
but no, no, no, it's very much like to each
his own. But it's also I also think that you
have been in the public eye for a long enough
(23:16):
time where you know the like ups and the downs
of it all, and you're like, yes, you're talking to
a girl who grew up on reality tep so like,
so true, it's so true. I have experienced. Are you
still like super close with everyone that you're on Like
are you close where like you text on a regular
(23:38):
basis or is it kind of like, oh, we see
each other at events and like every now and then.
I mean, I've lived in New York for eleven years, um,
and so having a entire country physically separate you from people,
I think like makes relationships grow apart. But I think
I'm still on good terms with everybody on the show,
especially like everybody from Laguna that I grew up with,
Like you know, everybody goes home for Thanksgiving and stuff,
(24:00):
and yeah, I feel like it's like a friendly community
and we have this like mutual shared experience that was
so bizarre. Yeah, it's like funny sometimes because you always
like I feel like people probably ask you like are
you still friends with all of them? And it's like
who are you still friends with from high school? Like
I think that I have like two friends still from
high school. Well yeah, but I wasn't broadcast, but I'm
(24:24):
saying for like the Castle are gonna beats and stuff.
They make a thing of it, like, oh you don't
keep in touch with like, well know, a lot of
people lose touch after high school. It's like normal, Yeah,
I would say it's pretty normal. I mean I'm still
friendly and on good terms with Are you listening to
back to the beach that no people dom e. They're like,
(24:45):
are you going on? I was like, I don't know,
Like I don't think so I haven't. I'm not caught up.
I started listening to it, and I do find it
all very interesting because they're like sharing the behind the
scenes of kind of like what actually went down, and like,
I find it to be very interesting because I I
watched it back in the day, but I still don't.
I don't remember what didn't retain a lot of it,
(25:06):
So it's like kind of kind of like reliving it
all very interesting. You watched, ever, I haven't. But when
you say, like you, I can't remember like you if you,
I don't think I could actually remember necessarily what was
like real and not real. You know, at this point,
it's like it's more than fifteen years ago, twenty years
(25:29):
it's like twenty years ago. And sure there's like things
pieces that I remember here and there, and I'm sure
if I watched episodes it would like trigger my memory,
but I don't know. I like this sense. Yeah, you know,
also when I joined the show, when they when I
decided to participate in Laguna and sort of carried over
(25:52):
to the hills Um. I said to the executive producers,
I said, I will agree to do this, but I
don't want to like deet people on IMA or have
my relationship, and so I made it clear before I
was hired. But like I was okay sort of being
somebody who is off to the side, like I think,
and I think that comes from just being a kid,
not being comfortable enough in my own skin yet like
(26:13):
want to date somebody on national TV. But that was
the deal that I had with Adam Devello. I was like,
I'm not gonna like go on dates for you a
national TV and so a lot of the like behind
the scenes manipulation that like other people talk about, I
was never even included into because like I just like,
(26:36):
I'm not like the revocal point of this so interesting?
Did you when you were starting your company was it
hard for did people like not take because I'm sure
you have like meetings with investors and stuff like that,
to people not take you as seriously because you came
from like a reality show. Well you know, so I
had some savings when I first started the company, and
I bootstrapped the company myself, so I operated by myself
(27:00):
for the first two years entirely. I did every single job,
and by the time I went out to raise money,
we had some really great proof points and the business
was doing well. So um, everybody took me very seriously.
That's great. But your business is doing well and it's profitable,
and like you've been able to grow it, you know,
(27:22):
with a really small team. Bootstrap. People do not care
where you come from. They're just like, oh, this is
really interesting. So yeah, yeah, I actually it's been a
really positive experience for me. We're private equity backed. I've
raised twenty five million dollars. You know, we're we're like
really know to do this, Like I I I when
(27:43):
people like make their own create their own companies and businesses,
and like, we're like, what do you She was saying.
It wasn't out there, so she was like, well, no,
I know, but I mean, like like the actual building business. Yeah,
you know. I I learned through trial and error like
any first time founder does. And you know, interestingly enough,
coming from the entertainment industry, every individual person is kind
(28:07):
of their own little mini ceo, right, Like you guys
are too right, you know, you have your own show,
you have careers and back in the day, before I
started a wellness, I was creating content and essentially, you know,
living off of money I was making by doing paid
advertising and things like that. And so in that way,
you already are your own little business, right, And so
(28:28):
then I just chose to apply it to consumer products,
And it wasn't that far of a stretch, right, But
I've had tons of guidance and help over the past
couple of years. Right, you know, I have a team
of over thirty employees at this at this point, so
like there's there's no universe in which you do this,
(28:49):
Like when you operate a business of this scale by yourself,
what's like literally impossible. Best tip? What's like the best
tip you could give if there's somebody listening that wants
to start their own company. Right now, I think that's
starting a business in a lot of ways has become
much more democratized because of things you can access on
(29:09):
the internet. Right, technology is cheap and affordable. You know,
you can even get like products kind of cheap and
affordable now, and you can test out an idea without
making a huge investment and without quitting your job. Right,
A lot of people have side hustles, and I think
It's really easy these days to test and learn in
a pretty affordable environment to understand do I have something
(29:32):
here that people actually want before you like go completely
change your life right, Like you can have a Shopify
website up in like an hour for I think fourteen
You know, if you are willing to do the research
and put in some time and energy to get started,
there is a lot there are many tools out there
that are affordable and accessible now that we're not ten
(29:53):
years ago. What's your goal? Like where do you see
the company going from this point on? Like are you
do you love the like book writing process or you
like do more products? More education? Like where do you
see it? Because I'm thinking of you and I'm seeing like,
um like goop like that orkind of it being like
you know what I'm saying is that what do you see?
(30:16):
You know? I think for us, education is really major.
It's a primary focus. And having the book out now,
like and being able to provide people with the science
and you know, an actual book you can read outside
of just like blog articles and stuff like this all
over the place. I think creates a validity to what
we're doing. And so anybody that's like why you why
(30:38):
this brand. I can be like, here's all research, go
read it. You know, this is what we operate off of.
And so I think for me, you know, I was
talking to my marketing team about an upcoming campaign that
we have that's focused on national health and sort of
like myth busting around like common vaginal health topics, and
I was like, I was getting to the point that
(30:58):
I made almost at the beginning of the show. It's like,
why do you need a vaginal health routine? Like most
people probably think, you know, that's stupid, right, Like that's
you know, a company trying to sell me things. But
the reality is like we live in a very different
world than we did, you know, five tents fifteen, twenty
years ago, and our needs evolve over time, and you know,
(31:23):
I don't know, so you're saying, like the like book
and getting education out there is like where Yeah, I
think that is like extremely important to me. I think
that there's so much education that still needs to be
done on the subject matter, and we're still in relatively
limited distribution in the United States. Were you know, on Lovelamas,
(31:46):
dot Com, Amazon, Alta and Target and international, I think
would be a huge accomplishment, right, because that we can
sort of like take our education internationally. Sorry, the sun
is like just starting to come to my apartment at
a weird angle. Um, and people email us every day
from like all over being like when is level on
this coming here? Because they see the consumer response in
(32:08):
the United States is so positive to the brand and
you can go and read all these reviews, so, you know,
changing people's lives because what we've created is legitimately based
in science and biology and so it works, and so
I think ultimately, you know, building it into an internationally
accessible brand is my goal. Yeah, it is true though,
(32:30):
like when you start discovering things and things start like
working clicking for you and your body, like it really
like I'm the same way. Like I remember I was
getting chronic U t e s and my guy knows
were just over the phone. Was when COVID was you know,
couldn't go into your doctors. There was like prescribing me
annabout after annabout. I was taking them like once a month,
and I was like this is not even I was
like something's up here, like this is not right. And
(32:53):
then I started asking questions, going to public floor physical therapy,
getting like other people involved and realized that it was
phantom symptoms. I wasn't actually having U T eyes and
I was taking antibiotics for like six months that I
didn't need to be, and so I started doing making
all these changes, and now I'm like screaming it from
the rooftops, like use your menstrual cop don't use clean
and free detergents, you know, like don't use us, Like,
(33:18):
don't use because I was using was I was using
like tied up until like four years ago. I'm like
having gnarly U t I s, you know what I mean,
Like just like little tweaks and things that really changed
my life. So I bet it's probably like times ten
for you because you have like this whole brand that
you've really built and like you've seen the fruit of
(33:41):
it in your own life. So it's like you just
want to shout it from the rooftops. Yeah we do. Yeah,
we tried to go international. Yeah, everywhere I get, we
do it on TikTok and people make fun of us relentlessly,
But it's okay. They'll come around one day. Yeah they
will just takes one one experience and one U T
(34:04):
I they're having, and they'll wait, what was that website
that I was making, that I was trolling. Yeah, I
need their info. Yeah exactly. Then they're going to get
a yeast infection and be like, wait, I gotta go
back to Low well Thank you for taking the time
to us and educate well me specifically. But I do
want to um ask like where people can follow you,
(34:26):
where people can buy the book and the products and
learn everything. Yeah, absolutely so. Love Wellness is available um
at Target front of store right now, which is really exciting,
at Alta nationwide, Amazon and love wannas dot com, and
the book is available at booksellers nationwide, and then you
can find us just on the handles that you expect.
(34:48):
Love Wallness and Love bosworthontiue talk Instagram, Low Bosworth Instagram,
TikTok and Love Wellness Instagram TikTok. Thank you so much
meeting and chatting with you. She does it all. She
doesn't thank you both. It was such a pleasure. Thank
you so much. Bye bye. You know, I have a
(35:22):
lot of work to do if I'm gonna live this
lifestyle you gals are living. It's a lot of work.
Let me tell you, it is a lot of work.
I think there's probably a happy medium somewhere the baby
happy medium. I think, are you I think so. I
think you're maybe not extreme. I don't think you're at
the like one end, but your medium. I still live
(35:43):
my life. I just live it differently. But like a
zero to ten. Becca's zero five, I'm like a five. No,
I think you were like a seven, and maybe Becca
is like a three. To take. Tom is powdered doughnuts
from her desk the other day, like three of them,
(36:04):
three of the packs of three. Who knows how long?
Like those things last, like they have no expiration day,
like that they're always fresh. No, they're stuff with so
many preservatives. It's like dealing with a child. But zero,
I think. I think at least like a point five zero.
(36:25):
Hailey Cook's healthy and I eat her face to five
point to five Okay when she got when she leaves
you on tour, I'll be negative three probably, But right
now I would give myself a point five to one.
You know what, I just found out that I'm going
to get the name of the podcast. There's a podcast
and some guy um like tells you what all the
(36:47):
fast food restaurants actually serve in their ingredients of what
their ingredients actually are, and it's like insects and like
weird stuff. I just don't care, Like that doesn't care,
not care about what you're in your body? I how
do you not care? Like no, not, it's not that
Like I'm just saying this specific like I know it's
(37:08):
not good. So like knowing specifics, I'm just going to
be like, oh, and I might get gross out, which
could be good because then I'll be like, oh, I
can't eat that's gross. But like, in general, I know
it's not good, so like I already know it's not good,
so I'm saying I don't know what I mean. Insects
is pretty intense, so it's not gonna stop you. Though.
(37:28):
It's not gonna slow you down. Insects might stop me. Yes.
The podcast is called Food Labels Revealed. There's a book
called Fast Food Ingredients Revealed. What are you eating? That's
what we're talking about. Mel Wine state, my policy always
used to be if it tastes good and it doesn't
make me vomit, I'm cool. Yeah, but I think I've
come off that a bit over the years. What is
(37:50):
it now? Uh, there's more. Well, there's a lot of
things that cause stomach upset, and so I I My
policy on that is avoid them, because as I could
take a lactaid like my daughter does for almost everything,
I could take a lactaid and then eat whatever I want,
but the things that are causing problems aren't good for
me to begin with. So my policy is avoid the lactad.
(38:12):
Listen to my body. My policy is eliminate inflammatory oils
xanthem gum. Yeah, I feel like an eight maybe pollutant,
what else? It's pretty much those the big ones. Yeah,
those are big because like everything causes inflammation. On New
(38:36):
Year's Eve, I took a break from the this whole everything,
and like, um, there was a dessert thing I love.
I love them and they had an entire trade. It's
like all these different flavors. You should have seen me
as I was like having the best time ever, just
(38:58):
having every different and some of them were dipped in chocolate,
so good. And then the next morning I had a
bite of a pancake. I was like, wow, but one bite,
well too, maybe three. I was gonna say, I know
she had half the pancakes, so I didn't. I didn't.
You guys, probably I didn't. Okay, if you did though
(39:19):
I didn't. But but I'm just saying I took a
little bit of a macouts are not gluten free. I cannot. Oh,
we gotta go. She's gonna try and squeeze it in
way too many more times, so I gotta go. We
love you so much, have a wonderful weekend, Have a
(39:42):
wonderful weekend, and we'll be back on Monday. We sure will,
because you know why, don't please don't. We are consistent.
We are that consistent cousin of yours that just shows
up every Friday for Shabbat dinner. You know that cousin
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