The Car Show with Dane Donovan 4/22/2023

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Episode Transcript

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He's real find my phone NIGHTE,good afternoon, and welcome to the Car
Show fifty five krs the talk station. I'm Dane Donovan filling in for Father

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Dale, who I was just talkingto Gary Sullivan. He was once once
he coming back. He is backYum, in fact, let me turn
my make up here. Uh.In fact, he was at my son's
baseball game, which I just gotoff the phone with my wife and I
delete a little early obviously to gethere. But apparently, um, they
lost it at the very end ata play at home, which my son's

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the catcher. So uh, I'mcalled him safe. So but uh,
yeah, so he is back intown. But I told my due the
show it's not a problem. Andagain I'm here to take your car questions.
Then number to call five one threeseven four nine fifty five hundred.
That number again five one three sevenfour nine fifty five hundred or one hundred
eight two three talk. So.Also I had an opportunity to went down

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to um Louisville for a country concertwhich was fun, and had a chance
to get to Keeneland. If you'veif you've you know, if you've never
been to Keeneland as a horse trackdown in Lexington, Kentucky, and I
just remember fond memories my uncle,he used to always have trips, and
my grandmother used to just love goingdown there. And I had several opportunities

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to go down there in church orout in a churchill um riverbend and just
had fond memories growing up as akid is doing that. And Uh took
took some friends of ours or familyfriends, cousin, you know, but
anyways, Um never been before,so we took him and we had a
blast, had a great time.And then I went to pick my son
up from baseball practice, who heplays for the Reds Junior League or Reds

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Academy, And uh, he's eleven, and I'm coming to pick him up,
and I'm doing a double take atthe somebody's pitching to him, Michae,
Well it's not his coach. No, it's Joey Vada. Joey Voda
was there, and uh, notfor any reason other than he literally they
said, he guess comes there justto watch kids play ball. And again
it's the Reds Academy right there inRoseland, and he was there. Um

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spent spent several probably about thirty minutesor so, thirty forty five minutes,
and I was just out there tossingwith the kids, pitching to him and
they had a blast. And uh, what a great guy, outstanding guy.
I've never obviously never met him personally, but he was there taking pictures
with the kids, and so thekids had a blast, and that's what
it's all about. So he hada great time. So great, Uh,

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so far, a great weekend.So again, taking your phone calls,
you remember to call five one,three, seven four nine fifty five
hundred. Let's get to the phones. We've got John. Hey, John,
welcome to the car show. Ikind of help. Hi, thanks
for taking my car. I've gota twenty thirteen Toyota Siena van and got

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a display on the dash that saidmaintenance and engine and NL so all tracked
thing like lights up, so wedidn't know what was going on. Went
down to the local car parts storeand they gave me one of those code
readers and turned out they said itwas the m AF the I think it's

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called the mass airflow Mass airflow sensare correct, Yeah, and so told
me to clean it. I did, and then I used there I guess
either theirs or I had an inexpensivecode checker, and I cleared the code
and thought it was done, andabout, oh, I don't know,
ten miles later that comes back on. Okay. So I then replaced the

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m AF and thought it was doneas again after I cleared the code and
flow and behod. About ten mileslater, even with the new one,
it came back on. So I'mpulling my hair out thinking what's going on
here? All right? Um,let me ask you something, um,
okay, what type of mass airflowsensor did you put on it? As

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far as like the manufactured, well, it was whatever we had or whatever
they had in stock. I don'tbelieve it was the exact I mean it
was it looked the exact same thing, and obviously it bugged in exactly.
But no, it wasn't the thefactory which said I think dank or something

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on Denzo, thank you, Andit was not a Denzo. But you
know, everything looked the same.But was was the censor that you put
in there? Was it a newcensor or a remanufactured censor? It was
new? Okay? Okay? SoI mean I I can't tell you how

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many mass airflow mass airflow sensors we'veput on and if you don't put on
the factory den you know Denzo.I mean that's the first thing I want
to do is probably tell you it'sprobably put on a Denzo. Now,
what about where is it located?Is it? Does it screw to them
the top of the air filter box? Is that where you're located at?

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I mean that's where most of themare. I just want to Yeah,
it's way back in the back.It was hard to get to because yeah,
yeah, because I think, yeah, that intakes on the backside,
so it's back by the firewall.Correct. Okay, did you did you
make sure that how's the car running? Is the car running all right?
Yeah? It runs fine. Infact, like I said, even after

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I cleaned it with the cleaner thatI bought for the ten dollars just to
see because they said a lot oftimes that solves the problem. Even when
I cleaned it, as I said, it cleared out for those first ten
miles or so. But the caris running fine. And I can't say
that I've checked the gas mileage,but everything you know, it runs fine.

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Um, what about the intake,So the rubber boot that goes from
the box itself to the intake throttlebody. Does that boot seem to be
intact and not have any holes oranything in it? Uh? Then I'd
have to check. So that's that'sbehind the air filter. I assume the

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replaceable air filter. Yeah, I'veseen that. So, So what happens
a lot of times though, isthose boots, you know, because they're
designed to to have some flexibility,right when when you give that car some
gas that I mean that that boot'sdesigned to to flex a little bit,
and a lot of times they canget a hole or tear in them.
And what happens is they suck airin and the mass airflow sensor doesn't equate
for that air and it flags thatcode. Um, So make sure that

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the boot itself that runs from theair box to the throttle body, make
sure there's no holes, rips,tears or cracks in that boot. Okay.
Now the other thing that you cancheck as well sometimes, So what
the mass airflow sensor does, right, so it tells the car how much
air is going into the engine.That way, the vehicle knows how much

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fuel it needs in order to makeyou know, have the right fuel efficiency.
Okay, And so Basically, whatthe car's telling you is that there's
too much air going in there,okay, and there's not enough gas.
So there's what's also after that whole. You know, once the air goes
in there and you get the combustionand whatnot, you have what's called a

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oxygen sensor that's in the exhaust okay, and this to what it'll do is
when the exhaust comes out, thisauxygen sensor will test it and make sure
that there's If there's any unburned fuelin there, you'll send it through the
cataly converter, which it will burnoff in there. And then there's another
sensor that another oxygen sensor, thatwill test it again and if there's still

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too much fuel in it, thenit goes hey. Then it tells the
car, hey, you know,we're not you know, we're putting in
too much fuel and not enough air. So that car is constantly going back
and forth making sure it's running asefficient as it can. So one of
those oxygen sensors could um could possiblybe getting lazy. Essentially there, it's
not bad enough that it's flagging it, but it's it's sending the car a
false reading and it thinks it's justtaken in too much air and maybe possibly

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one of the oxygen sensors is bad. So but the problem you're you're not
going to be able to look atit. You need to get up.
You need to get a diagnosed hook, hook it up to a scanner,
and and you got to watch theoxygen sensor switch back and forth, all

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right, and that and if one'sgetting lazy or starts reporting back slowly,
you can see that on a scanner. You're not gonna be able to see
that per se. You unfortunately needthat the software and er to do that.
But UM again to go back,make sure the boot is intact,
Make sure it's tight, make surethere's no again cracks, holes whatever.

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Sometimes rodents can get in there toothrough that rubber or maybe put a little
hole, So make sure there's noholes in the boot. Make sure you
when you disconnect that UM mass airflowsensor, just look at the pins to
make sure there's no green corrosion.Make sure there's no water that got in
there, because we call it greendeath. Right, So you pop that
thing off, get a flashight andlook in the actual connector itself, the

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harness. Make sure there's no greencorrosion or anything like that that could be
called in a false reading as well. And again I really want to see
you, you know, stick withDenzo they and try to get new and
again if if all else fails,if you can't get a Denzo, the

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connector looks good, the boot looksgood. Most likely it's probably an oxygen
sensor that's possibly again reporting late orbeing lazy and calls in the false you
know, basically pointing the finger atthe mass airflow sensor and you know,
and that's why you're dealing with it. But again you you're gonna need software,
and you're gonna need a scanner andget it diagnosed properly by a shop.

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But check those things first before youtake it to a shop and get
it diagnosed. All right, thanksso much, Hey, thank you,
You have a great weekend you aswell. All right, bye bye,
all right again, taking your phonecalls and number to call five one,
three, seven, four, nine, fifty five hundred phone lines are wide
open. It's a gorgeous day.But of course everybody's got car problems,

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including me and our next caller.Then I'm gonna get to In fact,
I had a car problem this weekmyself. I'll talk about I'll talk about
it. Coming up here soon shortlycoming up, we've got Eric as well.
You're listening the Car Show on fiftyfive KRC the talk station. Let
your voice be heard. Requirements toshow your ID in order to vote your

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voice on fifty five KARC the talkStation. Welcome back, Taking your card
questions fifty five KRESI the number calledfive one, three, seven, four
nine, fifty five hundred. UM. I was talking before before that,
that last break, I had mentioned, Hey, everyone has card problem.

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I had a car problem, andit's it's this. It was the oddest
thing. And you know, doingthis for going on, um twenty three
years, I've been doing this,and UM I had a a tick,
a low end tick noise and umand it it was. I noticed it
Monday. I had the radio turneddown and I'm like, it's my card

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ticking? Is a truck? Isaid, it is my truck ticking?
And UM, like, HM,got to work my gig. It sounds
like it's got a little bit ofa tick. And then Tuesday seemed like
it was a little worse, andthen Wednesday it seemed to get louder,
and then by Thursday, I'm like, something's not right, and I brought
my um, you know, oneof my technicians out, Brian, who
has been with us for for quitesome time, over fifteen years, and

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he's great, and first thing hesaid, it is like, oh,
I think it's sounds like a sparkplug. Maybe is uh loose? I
said, no way. I saidthat's lower end. I said, there's
no way. I said. I'mlike, I just don't see that.
I'm like, the plugs were justreplaced two years ago. I don't think
it's a plug. So we wentround and round and I'm like, man,
I said, it just sounds solow. It just sounds so low.
And I'm like, you would thinkwhen I pop the hood, you

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couldn't hear it. And he keptsaying, I checked that plug. I
checked that plug, and I'm like, okay, So sure enough, he
pulled the coil out tight nut heI mean, he's like, oh,
no, spark plug's tight. Buthe just basically snugged it. What they
gave it one little snug and boom, the noise was gone. And I'm
like, man, I just cannotbelieve that that loud tick noise. I've

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never just usually they shoot out andyou got and it never gives you a
warning usually, and it's kind ofnotorious for forwards. Um, but they'll
just shoot out. Um. Butmine was just a low end tick.
You could barely hear it. Butit was just enough to uh to to
make enough noise that I could hearit inside the vehicle and outside and uh,

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strangest thing. But you know,it's a No. Seven. It's
it's an older vehicle. But likeI said, uh, you know,
everybody has car problems. So that'swhat I'm here for. And again I'm
taking your phone calls and I'm gonnacall five one three, seven, four
nine five. Let's go back tothe phones. We've got Eric. Hey,
Eric, welcome to car show.How can of help? Hey?
Odd, you'd be talking about thespark? Is it a four? Oh,

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it's an it's a two thousand andf one fifty. It's only got
eighty seven thousand miles on. It'sgot a five four trite and in it
there you got. I inhered itthis vehicle, and I know the maintenance
on it. Um he was.Here's what happened. We were coming home
just the other day, just drivingalong. It's just had a major.
I know you don't really do tuneus per se on vehicles anymore, but

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it just had and maybe four thousandmiles ago had plugs, new coiled boots,
new coil boots, you know onfloods. Chain turn onto our street,
told accelerate, just this loud popand you've got that dot dot dot
dot and smack a little dent inthe hood. Spark plugs flew out.
Um, I'm hearing horror stories.Um. I mean I can change loan

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oil. I can do that kindof thing. But I am, by
no means a skilled mechanic, andI'm hearing horror stories about this, and
I'm hearing twenty different ways to fixit. Um, And I want to
keep the truck. It's I couldsay, it's just it's for this generation
truck. It's very very nice lowmiles queen, And I mean I get
about fifteen or sixteen miles of thegallon. It's not horrible for a truck,

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for a full drive truck. ButI'm hearing that the heads that got
to come off, And I'm oneguy's telling me all by this insert from
eBay that screws in and takes thetie smart smaller spark and I'm hearing other
people telling me that, you know, there's a special tool to drill it
out and read it out, andwhat's the best way to do this?
And is it something that can bedone with the Solindar head still on the

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truck. I mean, it's it'sa good truck, but I don't know
that I want to invest the moneyinto a twenty three year old truck to
take solinar head off. You know, yeah, absolutely, great question,
great question. Yeah, absolutely listen. I deal with this quite a bit.
And it is ironic. I mean, uh yeah, mine was starting
to work its way loose. It'sit's a fourth thing. It happens all
the time, especially on those engines. Um, No, you do not

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need to remove the head. No, I would not recommend you trying to
do it. Make it a sideyou know, a Saturday project or anything
like that. I got a guy, he is the only guy in the
city, the absolute best. Andyou're gonna want to take this down if
you got a pen and pencil orwhatnot. I do so. Um it

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is Herbs h e Rbs Herbs whoyou're talking about. I've got I've got
an old flathead forward engine that wasmy father's as well. It's like a
stationary engine that we put all differentappliances on for demonstrations. He's taken broken
studs out of that before I knowyou're talking about. Yeah, Herb is
the best. I mean he Um, he's quite busy, but like I

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said, he's the only guy inthe city. Um, he's awesome at
what he does. And I probablycall him at least at least once a
month to do um to do eitherget a bolt out or whatnot. That's
what he does. He does,you know, bolt extraction and whatnot.
So what he's gonna do is he'sgonna he'll he'll drill that out, okay,
and then he'll rethreat it. He'llput in what's called a Heally coil,

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so you don't need to do asmaller spark plug or anything like that.
He's gonna drill it out and thenhe's gonna tap it and then put
what's called a Healy coil in,which is which is gonna be the same
size as that spark plug, andboom, it's done. And he's it's
gonna be a fraction of the costof removing the head and everything like that.
So Herb Shop do you have histelephone number? Can we give it

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to everybody here? Um? II don't have it on my person.
I have it at work, UmI can. Yeah. But that yeah,
Mick, I'll tell you what Imean. He's got a goal.
He's got a goal mine. Um, and he's and he's taking he's and
he's got his son that's kind oftaking over the reins. He's teaching his

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son to do it and pass iton. Uh. Because he's so busy.
I mean, he's just got aniche business. And um and like
I said, he's a great guy, does phenomenal work. He's honest and
man, he doesn't mess around.He does great work. So yeah,
don't don't pull ahead or do anythinglike that. You call her, and
again, like I said, he'sbusy. It might be a it might

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be this week or next week,but he will and he's very frank when
you call him. He just says, look, you know you've called her
some machine shop. I can't getto the phone right now. I'll call
all you back. Leave your nameand number. I'll get back to you
within a day or something like that. So yeah, I mean, this
isn't an everyday vehicle by any means. It's like I say, age today,
but it's a really good truck,and other job is going to do

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that, blah blah blah. AndI'm thinking, you know, you know,
and I know that that the shopI usually take it to for repairs.
He's the kind of guy. I'vewatched him. He uses a tork
princh on the spark plugs. Butwhen I called him, he's like,
look, I take the head offand I send it out. And I'm
not saying anything bad about him,No, I just bipe the way,
but I just I don't want totake the clinder head off this thing just
because of the expense. You know, it's the expense and you know,

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yeah, you again with the Agenot to say that, like you said,
it's a good truck. And listen, four wheel drive F one fifty
trucks are you know, They're greatto have, especially when you're hauling stuff
or whatnot. But listen, I'veprobably had him repair hundred hundreds of cylinder
heads for me and I've never hadone comeback. I've never had an issue.

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I've never had any problems. Anduh, he doesn't nominal job.
So yeah, I think I thinkwe lost him but he got he got
the gist of it. It heardsome machine shops, so you know,
and um, you know, hedoesn't pay for any advertise and whatnot.
He just he's a great guy,does a lot of work for me,
and I'm happy to pass on thatthat work for him. But uh,

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if you've got a bolt that's brokeoff, or a bolt that needs to
be extracted, or you've got aspark plug that's shot out, and again
it's very common on four, isn't. It sounded like mine was working its
way loose the other day. Butlike I said, they usually don't give
you one, and it usually justboom, shoot out, rip the threads
out, and then you're you know, stuck between a rock and a hard
place. But he's your hero.He's the guy that you want to call

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and get it fixed. Because againhe gentleman said, it is an eighty
thousand, eighty thousand mile four wheeldrive F one fifty. He inherited it,
he didn't pay for it. Andeverybody, it's great to have a
truck. Um, but um,like I said, I have one too,
and uh good to just throw stuffin trash him. My wife does

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it all the time. He justthrows all the trash in there and I
throw it away in the dumpshir atwork. So uh, they're so practical.
And you know, I've driven aa Honda Civic and a Toyota Camera.
So I've only had two other vehiclesin my life. Thirty eight years
old, I've had an F onefifty Honda Civic and a Toyota Camera.
That was it. And um,man, I don't think I'll ever not

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have a truck. It's just tooconvenient. Um. You know again what
I was telling you, My sonhad a baseball game this morning. You
know, throw all he's a catcher, so throw all his equipment in it.
And uh you know, um,I don't know. They're just great
to have, so I don't blamehim. But again, um broken bolt
something like that. That was agreat question. And Herbs Machine Shop,

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he uh, he'll take care ofus. So all right, let's get
back to the phones. We've gotBill. Hey, Bill, welcome to
the car show. How can Ihelp? Hey? Dane? Uh?
Thank you? Uh got five escapefour still on the five speed, got
two hundred and twenty five thousand miles, but it used to had ninety five

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thousand on it. And the bestmine knowledge has never had a water pump,
alternator, or start or replace orclutch. And it's a manual,
you know, yes, it's aman Really, I don't think I've ever
seen a manual Ford escape wow.Okay, okay, all right, we'll
go on. So well, soI want to take it into the shop

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and have that stuff replaced, justyou know, to be on the safe
side. But do I ask himto put in Ford new parts, Ford
reman parts or aftermarket new or whatwould you if I brought it to you,
what would you put in it toreplace us? I'm going to put
in Ford original equipment new stuff,okay, okay, Um, Motorcraft Okay,

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So it doesn't necessarily have to beyou know, it's not like I'm
not saying like they need to goto the dealer to buy it, but
Motorcraft is the original equipment manufacturer forFord. Okay, and Motorcraft you can
pick up. You know, Idon't know how you're like, we we
won't install the people's parts because itbecomes you know, if you bring me
apart and it's defective, and Idon't want to have to take it back

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off and charge you twice and blahblah blah. I don't know how your
shop or how your grudge does itor whatnot, you know, Um,
but motorcraft is what you want,okay, and I would I would.
If you can get new, Iwould recommend new. Okay, that might
not be an option. Reman mightonly be the eye. Now with the
clutch, you're gonna only you're onlygonna be able to get new, of

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course, but on a starter oran alternator they're gonna play. Probably the
only thing that's available is going tobe a Reman remanufactured, which is fine.
As long as it's motorcraft, I'mhappy. And then on the water
pump, I really, I mean, you can do the water pump,
but I probably recommend not doing anythinguntil it fails, uh, just because

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again it goes to the old adage, if it aight broke, don't fix
it. I mean, the alternatorstarter they've got wear and tear. So
does the water pump. But usuallya water pump all it's gonna do.
It's not gonna you know, ifyou have a cot. If a starter
fails, it's not gonna start thecar. Right. If an alternator fails,
you're gonna break down. Where awater pump. Usually the signs of
deterioration are going to be it's leaking, right. They usually don't just lock

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up, they'll they'll leak, soit'll give you a warning sign. So
okay, but um, but Imean how many miles are on it?
Twenty five? Wow? And noneof that to your knowledge, none of
that's been replaced. Yeah, that'smy knowledge. That's that's impressive. That's
that's impressive. And like I said, I don't I've never seen a manual

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Ford escape. So you've got aunique car there. But yeah, if
if it's my car, um,now again, you're gonna pay more for
the motorcraft. Um, you're gonnapay more if it's new. But if
it's been a great car and youlike it and you don't have any problems
with is that car? Is thatcar being garage kept most of its life?
Where it's it? They're not?Okay? Okay. The other thing

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that I want to bring to yourattention real quick because I gotta go,
Um, look for before you doany of that back by the back tires
on both sides, Okay, rightwhere the shock is. If you look
between the wheel well, between thetire and that wheel. Well, you'll
see where the shock is. Roughly, the frames rought out and rust out

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in the back. I just unfortunatelyabout two weeks ago, had to condemn
one because the frame was so rotted. I my uncle had one, had
to condemn his. So I'd hatefor you to spend thousands of dollars to
do all that. If the framesrought it out, so you'll be able
to visually see it. Look atthe frame, it's right by where the
shock is located. And again it'sbehind the back wheels. Um. Just

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look to make sure there are anyholes in the frame, because that was
very common on that year. Escape. Okay, oh it's actually yes,
actually, yeah, that way,you're not wasting your money. Make sure
it's structurally good too, so beforeyou replace that. All right, thanks,
thanks Bill, take care. Ohyou're welcome. Have a great weekend.
Bye bye. All right, Takingyour phone calls the number to call
five one, three, seven,four nine fifty five hundred. Again the

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phone lines are wide up, andwe do have Jay coming up. You're
listening to car show. I'm fiftyfive KRC the talk station. Let your
voice be heard. I don't evenknow what to say other than I can't
believe this. I think this ismind blowing your voice on fifty five KRC,
welcome back, taking your car questions. The number to call five on

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three seven four nine fifty five hundred. I'm Dane Donovan from Donovan's at the
Entire Center and we've been doing theshow for when I say we, my
father and I we've been doing theshow for quite some time. So um,
we're here every Saturday from one totwo to take your car questions.
So um, if you've got aquestion, question that pertains to that vehicle,
whether it's maintenance, whether it's purchasinga vehicle, whether it's We don't

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do any body work, but Ican recommend some body shops and whatnot.
If there's anything that you may havea problem or question about, or maybe
you're in the market to buy avehicle and maybe want to get an opinion
on a brand. That's what I'mhere for. So you know, call
me up, wear me out,you ask me any question you can.
I get them all week long.And again that's why I'm here. I'm

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here every Saturday along with again myfather, because we generally want to help
people out with their car maybe purchasesor repairs and guide people in the right
direction so that you get a honest, truthworthy opinion. Again, I'm third
generation. My grandfather's charted the business. We're celebrating sixty five years in business.

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And again, truly enjoy and mostpeople most people probably can't say that.
Well, I would say majority ofpeople. Um, I truly love
and enjoy what I do. There'snever been a day in my life.
And this is God's honest truth.There's never been And again twenty three years,
there's never been a day in mylife where I will go up and

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I was like, man, Idon't want to go to work. Um.
Never and I that's the God's honesttruth. And it's and um,
I look at it as I don'tlook at it as work. I look
at it as uh, just life. I mean, I wake up every
day and that's that's what I do. I've been doing it for twenty three
years, and I enjoy it.And um, you know, are there

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challenging days. Of course? Isevery day perfect? No, um,
but that's that's life. But again, working for the family business and knowing
that you're working for a career ina future, and knowing that you're helping
somebody out right. Sometimes it cansometimes it might just be you know,
sometimes it's not appreciative all the time. You know, sometimes when your car

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breaks down, right, you're you'reupset, and then you find out it's
a thousand dollars and then you're upsetagain. Um. Sometimes some days it
cannot be rewarding. It's like goingto the dentist, right we if we
go for a cleaning, it's nottoo bad. But when he goes,
oh, you know, um yougot a filling or a crown or whatnot.

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Nobody ever likes that, but it'sit's part of life. And um,
we're just happy to help and guidepeople, um, you know,
through life and getting their cars fixed. So again, I truly enjoy it.
And if you've ever got a question, you can always call me on
the air or at the shop.I'm at pleasant Ridge again. We have
multiple locations. We have won atRidge, one at Blue Ash and our

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new Volver I'm sorry Vaul though andSubaru Specialty Shop in Montgomery on Montgomery Road.
So again, celebrating sixty five yearsthis year, and uh, we're
truly blessed. So we and andwe can't think it and can't do it
without all of our customer base andand the callers on the radio show.
Um, you've been great and wethank you. So all right, let's

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get back to the phones. We'vegot Jay, Hey, Jay, welcome
to car Show. How can ofhelp? Hey, brother, I've got
an O four trail blazer that keepsblowing the exhaust manifold off manifold bolts or
the man of fold. When Ifirst got it, the dealer told me
he'd put a new manifold on it. I'm sorry, are we talking about

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intake manifold or exhaust manifold? Exhaustmanifold talk? That's okay, I want
to clarify. And he'd put anew one on it. Within two weeks.
It started leak and took it backthey said, all tightened the bolts
up. That was all. Droveit another six months, started again,
took it to a different shop.It's cracked. Had to put a new

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one on. Drove about six months, same noise, cracked And now I'm
on my next one and it's cracked. So you've put cause of that exhaust
manifold a crack like that. I'venever seen that. U. We're gonna
be a lot of back pressure.I don't. I don't think so.

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I don't think so. Um,Well, when now when I started up
and drive it, when it's fixedand we're running properly, I have to
give push the accelerator extra hard toget it the roll for about the first
ten miles. Once it's warmed up, it drives normal. But there seems
like to be a lot of them. It just hasn't got the power right

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there where you need it when youfirst start out it and I let things
warm up for about three minutes whereI take off of them. So if
you if the car's cold, meaningit's been sitting overnight, and you start
it up and you put it indrive, you give it gas and you
have to Yeah, you're revenue extragas. I've got to get noe it.

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It's it's like it don't want themrun. It's like it's got I
don't know how you say it.It's just that ill smove this one.
You got to push down twice.Is hard to get it to roll forward.
About ten miles or so, itrunning just like normal. Now that
it's cracked, it doesn't have thatproblem at all. But it sounds kind

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of funny. Sounds funny, butOkay, so once it's cracked, you
don't have that problem exactly. Okay, what about have you had the converter
checked? Have you had what's calleda back pressure test done? No that
I haven't done nobody, So whatput So things are starting to add up

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as far as once it's cracked,it runs, it seems to run fine,
and it doesn't do it. Sowhat possibly could be going on is
the convert the catalytic converter. Okay, it acts as a furnace for the
vehicle. So any unburned fuel thatdid not burn off in the combustion chamber,
um, we'll go into the converterand it burns off in air well
if the converter is plugged up.So a lot of times unburned fuel over

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time, that converter can get pluggedup up, which then would create your
back pressure. Okay, So what'shappened is your your car's going you know,
you started up, and the exhaustis going to the converter and it
has nowhere to go because it's cloggedup. So what it's doing is it's
going back and feeding back into um, you know, the you know,
into the cylinder and then causing yourpressure, because what it sounds like is

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once it's cracked, it runs fine, and the car's basically it's it's it's
it's suffocating. It can't breathe,it can't exhaust. Correct. Um,
So I understand that. So earlierthat yeah, yeah, so earlier in
the week. In the week,earlier in the show, I had stated,
you've got an oxygen You've got anoxygen sensor that's before the converter and

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after the converter. You want tofind that oxygen sensor that's before the catalytic
converter. You unscrew it and youhave to get a special tool or with
a gauge, and you'll screw itinto that oxygen. Essentially, you started
up and if there's any back pressurethat game, he's gonna pag immediately.
And most likely potentially that's what's goingon. Your converters probably plugged up if

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you keep breaking it. I don'tthink there's anything wrong with the engine.
I think that's why the cart's notlike really moving because it's all that exhaust.
It can't vent, it can't breathe. Like if you think about it
takes about ten miles for it toheat up enough that it can breathe,
but exactly exactly, so it's kindof like, you know, it's kind
of like you're trying to going downto I don't know, Florida or the

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behind what I'm trying to snorkel right, and you're trying to breathe through that
snorkel tube if you can't breathe throughit, and then maybe over time it
heats up and that converter is allowedto breathe a little bit to where it
can you know, exhaust itself.So what I want you to do is
get it to a parashop. You'renot gonna be able to do it yourself.
But the next manifold you put on, you can either leave the oxygen

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sensor out. Now of course you'regonna get a check engine lane, but
you can leave it out just sayhey, if it runs fine, that
auction sensor out there. Most likelyum that converters plugged up and that's what's
applying all that back pressure. Whenwhen you when you have that manifold replaced,
do you ever hear any type oflike hissing coming from the exhaust?

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Never paid attention to, never heardanything unusual like that? Okay, and
it might not it might just beplugged up enough that it's creating this back
pressure, but you know, allowsyou to still drive it. So I'm
willing to bet what I want youto do. Get it to a repair
shop and you tell them, Iwant to back pressure test done on the
converter. You want to find outif that if it pegs that gauge um,

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if there's a lot of pressure oryou know, they're gonna know what
the parameters are as far as whatit needs to be. But have a
back pressure test done. That maybe the result of why you keep blowing
those intakes the exhaust manifolds. That'sa lot of pressure to go to crack
the money it is. But Imean the fact that you've already let me

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ask you something too. Doesn't alwaysbreak at the same spot, not that
I don't know. They just tellme it was broken. Oh I don't
know. So I mean, theother thing that could be going on is
one, if it's break, ifit keeps breaking in the same spot,
maybe there's some type of um um. Maybe the cylinder head itself is warped

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and when they go to tighten itdown there's a lot of pressure there.
The other thing is that it couldbe are they putting in a factory one.
Are they putting in an aftermarket one? Most likely aftermarket because it's it's
a it's an A four. Howmuch under buck? Oh yeah, they're
not putting Are they putting used on? No? No, they're straight from

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China. From what I can figureout is probably well, and I'm not
picking on them by any means.It could be. Um, there's a
manufacturer out there that's called Dorman.They they they they do a great job
and a lot of their products,but some products may have some flaws.
They could be putting on an aftermarketone that's just not being manufactured correctly.

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Um. But I mean if you'reonly paying the junkyard and get one off
the one man, if you're onlypaying one hundred bucks, I mean I
would maybe even try to search abitter. Yeah, well I understand that.
But either it's not being manufactured correctlyor there's a um you know,
something wrong with the head to whereonce they tighten it down, the head's

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warped a little enough to where it'sthat's where it's cracking. If it's breaking
at the same spot every time.But you don't really know that um or
we've got some back pressure in theconverter and that's what's cracking it. So
that's where we're going to. Thatwas it, because like I say,
after the first ten miles or so, it runs okay until it cracks,
and it runs okay all the time. Right, And I'm willing to bet

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them. I'm willing to bet thatconverters plugged up. I've had one with
that before. I didn't know whatwas going on. I was younger,
and it finally got clubbed up.They wouldn't even start. Yeah, and
they absolute absolutely that that can happenas well. And again yours might not
just be there yet, but it'sjust just enough to feed that back pressure.

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That's what cracks it. So havea back pressure test done on that
converter and call me back. Allright, all right, brother Hia,
hit it all right, thank you, bye bye bye, all right again.
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Um, Wayne, thanks for thanksfor calling. How can I help?

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Yes, I have a twenty fourteenchrister three hundred is three B six
engine rail rold drive on the leak. I don't know the canister was at
one time replaced under a factory recallthat the ch charcoal canister the EVAPP canister.

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Yes, okay, and now I'mgetting a code on it. I
wish I could remember that jack codenumber. But it says now there is
a minor leak in this system.Okay. Is there any kind of simple
way to trouble shoot that? Yes? And no? And here's me.

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So typically if if there is,if there's an EVAPP leak and it's a
small leak, usually usually it'll saysmall leak detected. Yeah, that's what
it says. The first and foremostthing that we do, always, first
thing that we do is replace thegas cap. Has that been done?

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Okay? So it's a car.The car doesn't have a true turn on
lock gas cap. It's built intoit's it's it's built into the flap on
the Okay, yeah, okay,all right, I got you. Yeah,
some of all of these newer cars, and yours is a fourteen,
so I didn't know. I knowwhen Chrysler went to that. I know

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Ford went to it years ago.But yeah, some of these cars do
not have gas caps. Um Soif you don't have a gas cap,
what needs to be done is what'scalled a smoke test Smoka, smoke smoke
test. Now you're not going tobe able to do this. You need
a machine in order to do it. And what they'll do there's they'll run

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smoke through what's called the evap system, okay, and that's where the charcolate.
So what happens is, you know, your gas loshes aroun in your
tank, and your tank the gastank itself is pressurized and those fumes they
don't the government doesn't want to justescape. So what happens is you have
a charcoal cancer. So the fumeswill go into the charcoal cancer, which

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filters them, and you have acanister vent valve which then will vent send
those fumes through a line which usuallyruns right along the fuel lines, and
it goes into the front of theengine, which then the purge valve will
then send those fumes into the engineto be burned. So somewhere in that
system, either the charcoal cancer itselfis bad, the fuel neck possibly could

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be bad, the seal around thethe you know, the tank or the
fuel pump itself could be bad,the vent valves bad, the purge valves
bat Somewhere somebody's not doing their job. So again, the only way that
you can do that is so it'scalled an EVAPP smoke test, and they'll
run smoke through the system and whereverthe leak is, that's where the smoke's
gonna come out. Okay. Andlike I said said, when you said,

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is it a you know, isthere something easy you can do?
If you had a gas cap,I would say, check the check the
gasket around the gas cap. Butif you don't have one, the only
other thing that you really can dois take it to get it to a
repair shop and have a EVAP smoketest done to try to find out where
that the basically the gas fumes areleaking. You're not leaking fuel you're leaking

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gas fumes, which is an environmentalyou know, the government doesn't want those
fumes to just go into the atmosphere, so that the system's designed to burn
those fumes off so they don't gointo the atmosphere. So unfortunately, you're
going to have to probably have thatsmoke test done. Well, okay,
and you know, I mean avery familiar with the fact that a lot

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of times is simply replaced the gascap. But since this vehicle doesn't really
have that, I assume I couldalso replace that canistar you know on the
door itself that acts as a gascap. Um. I'm you know,

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I'll be honest with you. I'mnot familiar with you said there's something on
the fuel door that acts as agas cap. Yeah, when if you
open the it has electronic Fiell door. You OPENETA and then there is a
round rubber piece that would look youknow, that goes over the filler and

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I assume closes that off and youknow, acts the same as a gas
cap does. I'm not familiar,you know, I'm not familiar with that
type of system. Um. Uh. Of course when cars come into my
shop, I don't I don't usuallyopen up the gas door. I'm gonna
have to look into that. I'venever yeah, I mean, if there's

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any type of rubber seal that wouldbe in that would create the contact.
So when you open up the door, you're saying, there's something that basically
creates a seal um at the fuelneck. Correct. Yeah, Yeah, it's
a round rubber cap it sticks out. Oh, I don't know, maybe
itch and a half or something likethat. Okay, and it and it

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goes over the top of the fillertoo, Okay, And I'm yeah,
I'm doing a little Google search here, and yeah, then that's absolutely what
that's that's where you need to go. In fact, I found a m
I found it pretty quickly online.That rubber sealer that's on that door.
I want you to replace that first. Do that first, and if it

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doesn't take care of it, youcall me back. All right. Oh
he's gone, So hey, listen. I appreciate everybody, all of I'm
getting excited. I appreciate every everybodyfor calling the show. I'll be back
next Saturday to answer all of yourcar questions. Everybody, have a great
weekend, the rest of the weekendand week I'll be back next Saturday to

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