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Hey, it's Jennifer Jones. Lee. You're listening to KFI, a M
six forty wake up call on demandon the iHeartRadio app. Tuesdays aren't so
bad when they start with Jennifer Jones. Late. Here she is with your
morning wake up call. Tyler stoppedyawning. Sorry, it's the heck of
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a way to start at Tuesday.I look at you know, we're all
in different rooms, right, SoI look over at the sort of just
imagine a zoom screen where you haveall these little squares, and I look
over in the square. Tyler's pottingme up. I can see it.
So starting music's on, and allof a sudden, there's this big yawn.
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It's fantastic, did you guy?Her announcer Guys say, Tuesdays aren't
so bad when you have Jennifer JonesA liar, jen Oh, ouch,
give me come in there and giveyou a hug or you need. I'm
just gonna say some coffee, SoI got some no nos in my purse.
I did just take my first sipof coffee. So hopefully the honest
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stop soon. Oh my gosh,all right, I hope you're Monday or
Tuesday. Whoa Tuesday. You seewhat I'm saying. Yeah, maybe maybe
I do. It's going better thanTyler's. I's all right, so far,
so good. Weird amount well,my voice is weird, by the
way, this morning, I've noidea, and weird weather this morning.
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Got out in the car and itwas full on, heavy, heavy drizzle
and even like a couple of showerson my way in this morning. And
I did not see that in theforecast yesterday. But that's what we have
this morning. So winschild wiper time. And I know, I just keep
thinking to myself, it's May.I know, May Gray, June Gloom.
I got it, weather forecasters.But still kind of odd when you're
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hitting eighties later in the day.That's kind of our forecast anyway for you
and some of the stories we're watchingfor your wake up call on this Tuesday.
A former LAPD officer charged with sexuallyabusing four boys at his home in
Covina has died while in custody.The Dodgers have repented and reinvited the Sisters
of Perpetual Indulgence to Pride Night atDodger Stadium after they uninvited them. So
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weird and a judge has given aman thirty years to life in prison for
speeding one hundred thirty eight miles perhour during a duy crash and irvine that
killed two women. And remember thattime that we talked with Karen Travers about
progress being made on the debt talkthe debt ceiling limit between the President and
House Speaker McCarthy. We're gonna dothat same thing again with her this morning,
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but we'll see what the progress isthis time. Let's start with some
of these stories coming out of theKFI twenty four hour newsroom. There's a
former LAPD officer who was charged withsexually abusing four boys at his home in
Covina. He has died while incustody. The La County Sheriff's Department says
Paul Razzo died Saturday of medical complications. He was arrested earlier this month and
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charged with eight counts of ludacts ona child. He was scheduled to appear
in court for his arraignment multiple dayslast week, but the hearing kept getting
delayed. Prosecutors say Razzo abused thekids from two thousand and six to twenty
seventeen. The Dodgers have repented.They have reinvited the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
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to Pride Night at Dodger Stadium.So the team caught a lot of heat
from the LGBTQ Plus and civil rightsgroup as well as politicians when the nuns
were uninvited under pressure from conservative Catholicgroups. The Dodgers have apologized. The
sisters say they will be honored toget the Community Hero Award that they were
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originally set to receive. I don'tknow if you've seen this, but THEIRS
security video that is on all overthe place this morning, they captured the
moment when a sedan crashed through thissushi restaurant in Studio City. The video
shows smoke coming out of the caras a person climbs out of the passenger
side and then kind of stumbles intothe restaurant. The LAFD sent a search
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and rescue team yesterday to help removethe car from inside the restaurant. No
one was actually hurt in that crash. A judge has given a man thirty
years to life in prison for speedingone hundred thirty eight miles an hour during
a dui crash and Irvine that killedtwo women They're not statistics. These are
real human beings who had their livesand the lives of their loved ones shattered
because of the selfish decision of someoneto get behind the wheel after they've been
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drinking. Orange County DA's kimberly Edsays Norman Martin had been warned he was
too drunk to drive in twenty seventeen, before squeezing two women into the two
seater, the corvette slammed into amedian, ejecting everyone from the car.
The judge said Friday, the speedwas incredible and caused terrific injuries at the
scene, which looked like an airplane. Forecasters says so Cal could get hit
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by heavy rain with the return ofEl Nino. I think we need to
have El Nino music every time thatthere's an El Nino reference. Doesn't it
sound like us but ghetti western kindof music? Woo. The National Weather
Services doctor Dean David DeWitt, SorryDavid, says rising temperatures in the tropical
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Pacific oceans show El Nino coming inis different and the practical reality is that
forecast on this timescale are probabilistic andjust because you have an El Nino doesn't
mean you're guaranteed an outcome. Californiais already preparing for major flooding for melting
snow, and more rain could onlyadd to the overflow. If El Nino
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does hit, forecasters say will startthis fall and last through the spring.
Hey, Karen Travers, good morning. Remember that one time that you and
I talked about the debt ceiling negotiationsbetween President Biden and how Speaker McCarthy,
and they said things were productive.I feel like, yogi Berra, you
know, like, let's do thisagain, days a vo all over again.
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Yeah, I mean productive. Thatis exactly what McCarthy said about the
meeting. It's what the President saidin a statement after the meeting. McCarthy
also said that he thought the tonewas better than any other time. It
was the best meeting yet. Soyou know, that's good. That's why
everybody's kind of, you know,clinging to these little glimmers of optimism and
hope after the meeting that they couldreach a deal. But they haven't done
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it yet, and the clock isticking, and the differences are still very
significant, even though McCarthy's kind ofdescribing it as philosophical differences, philosophical,
but very deep. They are stillthe same differences, Republicans saying that in
order to raise the dead ceiling,the President has to agree to significant spending
cuts and also work requirements for federalaid programs. The President putting new taxes
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on wealthy Americans and closing tax loopholeson corporations as part of these negotiations,
saying it's not just spending cuts butraising revenue that has to be a part
of the deficit conversation. So theyare still far apart, Yet at the
same time, there's a lot ofoptimism that at least the tone and tenor
of the meeting changed and they feellike they inched closer to an agreement.
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The President also said they again saidthat default is off the table, so
that's good, but again they haveto figure out how to get to the
details to make sure that the defaultdoesn't happen. I think I feel like
I hear this clock ticking every timewe say debt ceiling. You hear like
the tick in the background as weget closer to June first. I always
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feel like you can kind of takesome cues from Janet Yellen. Has she
said anything about how she feels aboutthe negotiations, or has anyone of sort
of her caliber or from the TreasuryDepartment or anything like that sort of given
any hints that yeah, they toothink we're close to a deal and that
we won't have to default. She'snot weighing in on the state of negotiations,
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but what she is doing is continuingto issue warnings, and yesterday she
sent another letter before the President's meetingwith McCarthy two Speaker McCarthy and other congressional
leaders, again underlining that June firstdeadline, saying this is urgent, and
also in that letter said you know, you guys need to act, but
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also reminded them that you know,back in two eleven, there was a
deal reached, there wasn't a default, but there still was a credit downgrade
after the agreement was reached because therewas so much uncertainty and concern about the
process and the upheaval and dysfunction inWashington. And the warning from her yesterday
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was like, as you get closerand closer to the June first deadline,
the concern about the lack of progress, the concern about waiting to the last
minute, could spark those same reactionson Wall Street and the potential of a
credit downgrade. All right, well, let's keep our fingers crossed that the
tone and the tenor continues to bepositive and that they can every day inch
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a little forward. And I'm surewe'll be talking more about this with you
tomorrow. Have a great day.Hey you two, Karen, see you
later. ABC's Karen Travers. Imean anytime that you can say things are
positive, Okay, I like that. But at the same time, so
what, right, it's we're inthe same spot we were yesterday. Just
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maybe what one step closer. Idon't know. I'm going to be my
unhandled self and say that that's aglass half full kind of thing, right,
even though handle would say it's aglass half empty because of the fact
that still there is no resolution.Let's get back to some of the stories
coming out of the KFI twenty fourhour news room. Oh, I was
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standing in my driveway last night talkingto my two neighbors, and I had
my phone on the hood of mycar. And as Stephanie and Natalie and
I were standing out there talking,all of a sudden, I see something
flash on my phone. And thesecertain flashes, if they come across have
to really pay attention to them becausemeans big deal. But it was a
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big, bad deal because the Nuggetsdefeated the Lakers in Game four of the
NBA Western Conference Finals at Crypto dotCom Arena. The final score sucked was
one thirteen one eleven. Lebron scoredforty points. Come on now. Denver
now goes on to the NBA Finalsfor the first time in franchise history.
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The Nuggets will play either the Heator the Celtics. A felony child abuse
charge has been filed against an LACounty Sheriff's deputy accused of punishing his five
year old son. The LA CountyDay's Office says Jim Devot allegedly hit the
boy last month and then lied tothe boy's mom about what caused his injuries.
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He said the boy just fell offhis bike. The boy's lawyer says
his client did not abuse his sonand loves both his boys. What is
that? That's a guy who wason video going after people with a pickaxe.
I guess one will do in LakeForest. Well, that guy's been
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arrested. Security video also shows theman crash a car into a home before
he breaks down the front door.Then uses this pickaxe to break down the
bedroom door to get it one ofhis old roommates. Wow. I mean,
I've had some issues with roommates inthe past, and I've thought about
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doing stuff like this. Don't getme wrong, when's the last time you
took a pickaxe after you crashed yourcar into your ex roommate's house. Apparently
there was a struggle, that guysaid, and when it was screaming,
helped me said he thought he wasgonna die. Sheriff's deeputy use less than
lethal force to arrest the attacking roommate. California, Nevada, and Arizona have
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agreed to cut back on water usagefrom the Colorado River. The Biden administration
says it will pay over one billiondollars to cities, tribes, and farmers
collectively for conserving the water. Westernresource advocates John Bergran says the incentive is
a good start, but it isn'tenough. We've been using too much of
the Colora River. There's more rightson paper to the color River than the
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river actually supplies. Governor Knewsom announcedthe plan yesterday, saying the entire Western
United States is on the front linesof climate change. Chris Adler ki FI
News. And finally, do youremember that story I told you yesterday about
that dog that was stung hundreds oftimes by bees? Remember they said that
they think that the dog was itwas stung. I guess seven hundred times.
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That dog has died. The twoyear old pitbull Mastiff was attack last
week when a neighbor in Lake Matthewsthat's in Riverside County, tried to take
a beehive down that was on hisfence. Be experts say aggressive behavior from
bees is unusual and that really be'sonly attack if they are disturbed. That
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was a driver who crashed a UHaul truck into a security barrier outside the
White House. This guy says hethought someone might need help last night when
he first saw the crash. Isaw the truck then back up and then
proceeded to crash into the barrier asecond time, at which case it seemed
like this was not just a coincidence. It seemed like maybe something more.
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Yeah, when somebody hits something andthen they put it in reverse and hit
it again, that's something more.The U Haul driver was arrested on suspicion
of threatening to kill, kidnap,or inflict harm on the president, vice
president or a family member. Therewas a Nazi flag, a black backpack,
and a roll of duct tape foundinside the truck. I don't know
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why we had to know the blackbackpack part, but whatever. People picking
up a diploma this week can alsopick up some free donuts. Krispy Kreme
is offering all twenty twenty three collegein high school grads a free dozen donuts
tomorrow, one on eighth graders?Why are they left out? So all
you have to do to get yourfree donut is walk into a Krispy Kreme
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wearing something showing that you're graduating,like your cap and gown. What are
you driving around with your cap andgown in your car? Or you can
just have a class of twenty twentythree t shirt to qualify. Let's say
good morning now to ABC's and Nezdela Kuta. Since two thousand and seven,
I remember when the story first brokereporting on it, and Portuguese police
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are saying that they are going toresume the search for Madeleine McCann and Nez.
Good morning, walk us back through. There might be people listening this
morning that are like, oh mygosh, yeah, what was it again
that happened to that little girl?Hey, good morning, yeah, really,
said Astory. You'll remember Madeline McCann, that three year old little British
girl who was on vacation with herparents in the south of Portugal back in
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two thousand and seven when she disappeared. So what happened was is her parents
had left her and her two siblingsalone in the apartments they were staying in
and they went out for dinner withfriends, and the group of adults had
decided to set up a kind ofrotation to go and check in on the
children, and so every hour orso, a different adult would go and
check in on the kids. Andso Madeline's dad and around nine pm went
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in and you know, took alook around and everything seemed to be fine.
All three children were there. Anhour later, her mother at ten
pm went into the apartment to dothe same thing, and Madeline at that
point had disappeared. There were veryfew kind of traces it was, you
know, I mean, the casewas never solved. And again this was
back in two thousand and seven.Madeline was three, she would have been
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twenty years old as of last month, and Portuguese police now reopening the search,
renewing their efforts to find Madeline McCann. They're actually starting a three day
search of a reservoir in the areaclose to where she was last seen.
They are searching both the kind ofland the ground around that reservoir, and
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there are also divers that are thatare searching the waters. That reservoir was
searched once in the past, backin two thousand and eight, but nothing
really came out of it. Butthat they are reopening the search, and
we should point out that this comesbecause it was requested by German police.
It was German police, German prosecutorsthat called for this search to be carried
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out. The thinking is that they'retrying to link this case to a man
who was named as a formal suspectlast year, who is a German national,
Christian Bruckner, who's forty five yearsold. He is currently serving time
in Germany on a rape conviction.He's always denied anything to do with Madeline
McCann, but he is known tohave been in that area when Madeline was
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last seen. Okay, so whatwas it those specifically that caused it to
be right now and back in thatarea that's already been searched. Did he
did this suspect, Did he saysomething to I don't know, a cellmate,
did he talk to a guard?Did he Is he doing this as
part of a plea? What isnew that he might have said to them?
Or why would they reopen this atthis time? So that is a
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big question. We don't know.So we know that it was German prosecutors
that but asked for the search tobe carried out. We know that this
has to do with Christian Brutner,but they haven't said why, what tip,
what evidence? UM, you knowis behind all of this. So,
UM, you know it's gonna bea three day search. I think
in the next a few days,hopefully by the end of this week,
we'll get more information. But Germanofficials have haven't given a whole lot of
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details. UM asked to you knowwhat it really was that that set off
this, this this whole new search. In the beginning, I remember remember
that, you know, a lotof focus was obviously being put on the
parents, clearly because they were thelast two people who said that they saw
Madeline alive. And now seeing thepicture of those parents and I think it
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was taken yesterday or the day before. Holding that picture of Madeline again,
it made me start to think that, you know, once the two of
them were cleared, what you know, and everybody started thinking, what do
you do when your kid disappears?When she's three and you're left with that
sort of gut wrenching what happened?Where is she? You know? Is
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she still alive? Kind of thing? Putting the parents through this over and
over and over again, giving themthis hope and then you know, the
searches. Then obviously you have notcome to fruition with anything, but to
put them through this again cannot bea light thing, even for the German
government. That's got to be inthe consideration department, right absolutely. I
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think that's the thinking. And againwe don't know because they haven't said,
but I think, yeah, thatthis thing is and I think part of
the reason there's so much attention onthis development here is that it must be
something big that they wouldn't just reopenthe investigation, you know, so many
years later for just a small tip. So so we'll see what comes out
of that. You remember, ofcourse her parents, Yeah, like you
say, they were initially suspects.They were then cleared, and then they
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spent years kind of you know,raising awareness, drawing attention to their daughter's
case. They got tons of celebritiesinvolved, from David Beckham to JK.
Rolling Um offered millions in rewards forany information leading to to you know,
to finding Madeline. They've never reallygiven up hope. Um. But but
so we'll see if if anything comesout of this new search. And as
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thank you so much, thank you, see you later, ABC's and as
Dela Kuta man, I do hopethat, even unfortunately, if it is
her remains that are found, youalways hope that there is some sort of
resolution, not just or are youknow, the scandalous society in which we
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live where we need to you know, wrap up this lifetime movie. But
for those parents, I mean,I can't imagine, you know, I
know how I feel when you know, a dog runs off or something like
that and I'm like, oh mygod, what's going on? And it
breaks my heart. Imagine your childdisappears and you're still searching seventeen years later
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with no answer. I don't knowhow they go on. I mean,
obviously they have to, they haveother kids, but dang, just oh
you talk about heartbreaking. Oh,Lebron might be breaking some hearts. He's
talking about retirement. He says,it's an offseason decision to think about.
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To be honest, I a lotto think about, to be honest,
and this will be personally going goingforward with the game of basketball. I
love to think about. Okay.In a eleven second cut, three times
he said he's got a lot tothink about. I feel like Lebron's got
a lot to think about. Jamesjust completed his twentieth season with the NBA.
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Today is National Drinking with Chickens Day. She wrote, I have a
feeling this is something our Jennifer hasdone in the past. Why because I'm
from running, does everybody think Ican ride a bull? I've been drinking
with chickens? Have you not beendrinking with chickens? I have, and
I've written a bull. I thinkwe're done here, Okay. A driver
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has crashed a U haul truck intoa security barrier outside the White House.
A former LAPD officer charged with sexuallyabusing four boys at his home in Covina
has died while in custody, andthere's a debate about the impact of these
appointment only animal shelters, and whetherthat policy could be contributing to a rising
kill rates at animal rescues across thecountry. We'll get into that in just
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a second. But Jim Ryan,good morning to you. A lot of
us have thought we're doing the rightthing. We're saving those plastic bags we
get at the grocery store, wetake them back, we recycle them.
Are we doing anything at all?Though when it comes to the cost benefit
analysis? Maybe, I mean,cost benefit analysis is one thing, probably
not, But in terms of savingthe planet, you know, that's why
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I think you would do that.You'd bring the plastic bags back, first
of all, so they don't endup in the environment. You're filling up
at landfill or stuck in a treeat a city park, or blowing around
in the neighborhood or in the waterways. Right, so you take the bags
back. California state law requires mostbig supermarkets and pharmacies, big box stores
to have a big bin outside sothat anybody can return plastic shopping bags.
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You see the plastic bag. Thoseshopping bags are hard to deal with because
as big and powerful as recycling machinesare, you don't have plastic bags in
there. And they can actually gumup the works and stop the machine.
So that you have to be theyhave to be handled in a specific way,
and so I think everyone assumes that, yeah, by putting it in
the bin, it's going off toa recycling center. Well, DAVC News
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and its affiliates around the country severalof them got together and then they decided
to test this. So we tooka pastic bag, we dropped in and
apple tracker yeah, er tag rightinto the bag. Super gluted in there
or gorilla gluted, I guess iswhat they did. Then put other bags
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around it, dropped it off witha recycling bin at Target and Walmart stores
around the country. See what happensnext, right, So we tracked these
things and the vast majority did notgo to recycling centers. Most went to
either city landfills, or they wentto incinerators where they were burned up,
or in very few cases that heactually went to recycling centers. Three or
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four cases, some of them endedup in recycling centers in Asia, and
then three were unaccounted for all together. Nobody's quite sure what happened to those.
All right, Jim, Well,thank you so much. We'll keep
an eye on this one, becauseI've always wondered, like, all right,
I do my part. I dorecycle those things, but at the
same time, it's like, okay, if it's really not doing any good,
and hilariously kind of coming up thesystem, it's like, well,
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that doesn't do us any good ifwe're doing if we on the one side
are doing the right thing, butit's not actually helping the process. Yeah,
we'll take a canvas bag to theshopping and to the grocery store instead,
and want to you want to thinkabout it? I love it,
Jim, Thank you so much.See ya ABC's Jim Ryan. I saw
that last night. I was like, oh my gosh, So here's poor
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I don't know, Joe the maintenanceguy, and every time the recycling machine
goes off, Joe's gotta go overthere an ungumm it with all of those
plastic bags that we have tried tosave and recycle. We tried, we
tried, everybody, we tried.The bodies of a four year old boy
and his eight year old sister havebeen recovered from the King's River in Fresno
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County. Authority say those kids wereswept away Sunday when their mom and a
friend tried to take them across theriver over to a rock, but the
kids didn't have life vest. Thegirl's body was found about an hour later.
The boy's body was found yesterday abouttwo miles downstream. Closing arguments have
started in the trial of a manaccused of killing a father who was camping
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with his young daughters at Malibu CreekState Park. Anthony Routa is accused of
firing a rifle into the tent whereall three people were sleeping in twenty eighteen.
Prosecutor said that Roudah had the rifleon him when he was arrested.
The defense argued cigarette butts found nearthe side that the shooting did not have
Routah's DNA on them. Routa isaccused of going on a crime spree that
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also includes an early morning shooting inBurglary. I'm going to tell you a
cigarette butt story in just a second. That's bizarre, as Handahl would say,
I have a personal story about that. A study shows the global loss
of wildlife is more alarming than previouslythought. The study published yesterday in the
journal Biological Reviews found almost half theplay in a species are experiencing rapid population
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declines. Some scientists say the worldis entering a sixth mass extinction event,
caused by the destruction of wild landscapesto make room for farms, towns,
and roads. They say climate changeis also an important factor. I've never
seen one that big up close.It's not often that you've got an alligator
roaming around your neighborhood. Live inSoutheast Texas or anywhere, I'm pretty sure
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in the US, But that's cornelis. Greg Junior, who lives in the
area, says he was just drivinghome Sunday spots a gator. Says he
didn't take any chances one. Ididn't get out of my car too.
I called the police and let themhandle it smart now. Police kept an
eye on the gator until a trappercaptured the reptile and a three hour long
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rescue. The trappers said the alligatorweighed about twelve hundred pounds. It is
eighty five years old and still outand about. Super Bowl sixty is headed
to San Francisco forty nine ers homeStadium, so it'll be at Levi's Stadium.
Super Bowl sixty in Santa Clara twentytwenty five, Super Bowl fifty was
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played at Levi's Stadium in twenty sixteen. Vegas and New Orleans will host the
next two Super Bowls. That's twentyfour and twenty five. All right,
So here's my weirdo personal story.So as you guys know, So where
I grew up, you know,out in the sticks, we had a
whole bunch of land. And thenmy family has everybody lives on the land.
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I know it sounds very weird andyellow stony in a weird way,
but I had relatives who built logcabins. So cousin Francis and her husband
Laars built a log cabin on ourproperty. They lived in Alaska during the
summers, and then they would comedown to Reading and they would live in
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this log cabin during the winters becauseAlaska, you know, winter is rough.
And here's the weirdest part. Mycousin Lars had no sweat glands.
That's a thing. I didn't knowthere was a thing. Anyway, Lars
passes away, Francis says, allright, Annie Jones, kid, when
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you turn eighteen, go live inthat cabin. Take care of it for
me when I'm not there. SoI was the first to be given that
offer, So I go and Ilive in the cabin. I think I
think I was the ripe old ageof seventeen, and my parents were probably
like, hell yeah, I gether out of this house. So I'm
living in the cabin. I've probablyonly been there like maybe two weeks,
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three weeks. And I slept withthe window open just a little bit,
you know, maybe three four inches, just to get some cool air in
there. And I hear this crunchingon the gravel footsteps. It's about four
thirty in the morning, and Iit wakes me up. It's that loud
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because it's just silent out there.And I remember going to the window and
looking and seeing a man standing therea plaid shirt, jeans, and he's
smoking a cigarette. Now, granted, you guys, this is there's nothing
else around this thing but just acresof field and this log cabin that I
lived in, So I have noidea what to do, you got.
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I went into like freeze mode.So I was proud of myself. I
knew there was a shotgun because youknow, it's ready. I knew there
was a shotgun in the closet,so I grabbed the shotgun and cocked it,
just letting him know, I gota gun. I didn't yell anything.
I just cocked the gun like anidiot, got under my bed.
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Had this nineteen oh six Sears catalogbed that has it, so it was
huge and raised got under the bed. Called my uncle who lived across the
street. I'm like, Uncle,Ken, there's a guy outside, and
he goes, why did you callme? Called the cops. Oh yeah,
anyway, it's the cigarette butt thatthat guy left that proved to the
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cops once they arrived that there wassomebody out there, and it looks like
there were a couple of cigarette buttsthat had been Apparently this man had been
coming to my window for like thefirst week that I lived there and didn't
know it, based on the cigarettebutts that were outside this window, which
I just never walked around there,I guess, But isn't that creepy?
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They never found him, but thatwas the only proof that I had some
weirdo guy coming to the window ofthis log cabin. Freaky Freaky writer E
Jean Carroll has now filed an amendmentto our defamation lawsuit against former President Trump,
asking for another ten million dollars forcomments he made after the verdict.
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Trump was found liable for sexually abusingCarol in nineteen ninety six. I know
Tyler liable Lie Yubble in nineteen ninetysix and later defaming her. Carol says
he then or she then made moreHe then made more derogatory comments about her
on live TV. He responded onlineand in interviews by saying Carol's sexual assault
allegation was politically motivated. Eric Turskysays Carol claims Trump's comments during a CNN
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town hall earlier this month entitle herto additional damages. Let's say good morning
now to Sharon Logan. Sharon,I this story that you and I are
about to talk about is one thatI've been kind of watching over time and
wondering if there's an A plus Bequal CE impact here. So the debate
has kind of been coming up nowabout appointment only and this was what we
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did at animal shelters during the pandemic. But now there's a question about why
are we keeping these pandemic era appointmentonly policies in animal shelters across the country
and could that policy be contributing toa rise and kill rates at animal rescues.
So, Sharon, good morning,I know you're a huge animal activist.
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You've sued Orange County in the pastover some of its policies. What
is your take on these pandemic arabpolicies staying in place and the impact they
might be having. I did,and thank you for having me on your
show, first of all, andthank you for using your platform to helpfully
advocate and help effectuate change, changefor the animals. And yes, I
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have been advocating since twenty twelve fortrue sustainable, viable shelter reform at OC
Animal Care. So these policies,I mean, they're just absolutely ridiculous.
And if you go on the BestFriend's website, you know they have this
whole section where it says policies right, proven policies, it says, and
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then it talks about shelter intake ajust the number of animals entering your shelter,
continuing practices that will keep pets inhome that the website says returned pets
in the field instead of impounding them, leave stray cats on the street.
They have this whole new ridiculous thingwhere they're saying that even now, if
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you find a stray dog, leavethe stray dog on the street because ninety
two percent of stray dogs are amile from their home and they will be
able to go home. So it'sjust absolutely ridiculous. And they said that
these policies are still good to maintainafter COVID as the new way of progressive
animal sheltering and they're calling it communitysheltering because they believe we members of the
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community need to be more active withthe shelter animals. And so the policy,
the appointment only procedure Orange County AnimalCare, you know, they took
it a little too far. Imean, I believe La City or La
County, even Irvine Shelter they havean appointments where you can come in from
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one to four, you know,make an appointment, but you can still
walk around and see the animals.At Orange County Animals Are they've completely shut
the shelter out. The only placeyou can go is in the lobby and
once you get to the lobby,you can look on the computer and ask
the kennel attendant to bring you outtwo dogs and that's it, okay.
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So, I mean, it's absolutelyridiculous. It needs to change. Orange
County is a thirty five million dollarsshelter. They have an annual budget of
I believe twenty five million dollars,so this is not an underfunded or understaffed
shelter. They are doing this becausethese are the policies and directives that are
considered best practices by the big boxorganizations like the big national wealthfare organizations,
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which are best Friends often Pets AliveHAW which stands for Human Animal Support Services.
These are the supposed leaders in thenational welfare that are saying these are
the best policies of procedures to implementat municipal animal shelters. Okay, Sharon,
So let me play devil's advocate here, because it's not that I don't
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agree with what you're saying. Ijust want to give their side, not
specifically OC animal care, but someof the shelters I know during COVID were
telling me, and even actually afterit, some of the shelters that I
had talked to were saying, thereason that they were keeping these policies in
place is that they actually found moresuccessful adoption rates happening, or you know
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that the animals weren't ever brought back, that they were able to better fit
a family with say will focus ondogs here maybe, but an adoptable dog,
that kind of thing when the processwas a little more streamlined like that
where they had it, and itwasn't so sort of willy nilly. People
were walking through just saw a dogthey thought was cute and then grabbed it,
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took it home. It didn't workwith the family and they had to
bring it back. So they wereclaiming that they saw bigger success rates when
they did this appointment policy and thatthat's why they were continuing it. Have
you heard anything like that? Andalso did you see during the pandemic.
I know you did, but alot of shelters said they were cleared out.
Remember everybody wanted an animal, yes, because everybody was home, so
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they were fostering the dogs because everybodyjust works from home. Yes, But
once the pandemic was lifted and peoplestarted going back to work, they realized
how much you know, um timeand effort. I mean, it takes
a lot to keep a pet,whether dog or cat, you know,
just like a child. They needyour time and effort. And once people
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came went back to work, theyrealized they didn't have the time and effort
to put into that. But yes, I know that's like what La City
is saying. That's actually even whatthey see animal out there and saying they're
calling it a concierge services. Theysome more time with the doctors that come
in by appointment, or I thinkyou won't care even meant as like a
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matchmaking service, right crazy, Butyes, they are saying that it's more
successful that way. As far ashow true that is not is or on
the data with Osee Animal Care,I don't believe that's true. Okay,
when what would you like to seedone? I would you know, like
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we obviously we've both identified the problems. What would you like to see?
Do you want them open completely againor what from your aspect might be the
key to success. I don't.I don't think they need to open completely.
But I mean back in the daypre COVID pandemic, ose Animal Care
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was open seven or six days aweek, from like ten or eleven in
the morning till six or seven atnight, right six days a week.
I believe the dogs do need interaction. I just can't see them sitting in
their kennels all day without any kindof interaction, social interaction. I've suggested
to the Orange County Board of supervisors. I've emailed them like hundreds of times.
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It probably tired me by now.I'm like, well, if you
need to open the shelter right atleast even on a limited basis, let's
say one to four, you know, Monday, Wednesday or Friday or weekends
when a lot of people are Fridayto Saturday Sunday, open it from eleven
to five or something, you know, give them something. And I do
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believe that people actually need to beable to walk in the shelter, walk
around the tunnels and meet the dogspersonally. But I also understand that the
big box organizations that's not what they'repushing, and they're saying this is the
better way and this is the newway. But I know animal advocates here
n in La don't think that right. Well, Sharon, I appreciate your
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time and of course your dedication.Anybody who's dedicated to animals, man,
you are high in my book.So I appreciate what you are doing and
keep up the good fight. Andif nothing else, I like what you
just said how you had suggested tothe border supervisors, and I think that
that's key when we are if we'regonna make you know, if we're going
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to see any change, it needsto be through suggestions and you know,
like a positive impact or a positivepush on this kind of thing. So
I hope that your suggestions, combinedwith what oc Animal Care says it can
do, that we can see somethingactually happen and change. Because I'm sure
there's a little right on both yourcorrectness, I should say, on both
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sides. So let's see if wecan't meld those two together and make a
difference. But Sharon, thank youso much for your time this morning.
Yes, and I agree with that. And just one more thing. You
know, we are as animal advocans, we are a bunch of really passionate,
emotional individuals and we all have ourdifferent ways, so we can't let
the emotions rule, as you know, go buy backs and data and um
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you know what is sexual and whatis best for the animals, not just
on our emotions. The other thingis, I know you guys saw the
article in the Voice of OC andthat's why you reached out to me.
And I just want to thank youthe Voice of OC and Angela Angeline for
writing that. I mean, they'vebeen writing about OCIE animals back the curtain
on what goes on there since twentyfifteen. They just don't write fluff pieces,
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you know. They they show allthe good, the bad, and
the ugly. So I'm just reallyappreciated the doing that, and thank you
so much for your time and hopefullywe can collaborate and effectually some change in
the shelters. I would love you. You are welcome back anytime, Sharon.
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I appreciate. I have a greatweek. Hey, you do,
see you later. Sharon Logan isan animal activist, and you know,
here's the thing. Even if youdon't agree with her, or you or
maybe you do agree with her andyou don't agree what the animal shelters are
doing, one thing that we justdid as we at least are talking about
it, and I think that that'skey is that you're talking about it,
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and that is what's going to effectuatethe change is if we keep things like
this in the headlines. I don'tcare how often we do it. I
just want more animals adopted. That'sall I care about. And she's right,
is there? Is it tough toraise an animal? Yes? Are
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you an idiot if you have threedogs in a cat? Yes? And
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