Colorado's Mystery Drones

In December of 2019 the Denver Post began reporting a strange pattern over the night sky of northeast Colorado. Around 7pm each night, at least 17 drones -- large ones -- emerged from somewhere and flew over the region in what appeared to be a search pattern, disappearing between 9:30 and 10pm. No one, from federal agencies on down, seemed to know where these drones were coming from, who controlled them, or what they were doing up in the sky. If, that is, they existed at all.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of I Heart Gradios How Stuff Works. Hello, welcome

(00:25):
back to the show. My name is Matt. My name
is no Matt. Thank you for that kindly welcome. Oh yes,
welcome to you. Welcome to Paul, mission controlled decan who's
with us. Welcome to Ben in Spirit, who is on
an adventure and he will tell us about it when
he gets back. He sure will, and uh so today
or he might not know well, who knows, who knows?

(00:46):
But if we do learn something it will be from
his mouth and his mouth alone. The ways of the
Bend Bowl in our mysterious ways. That is correct, sort
of like the way that character and that you two
song moves in mysterious ways. Mistake. I can't no, no,
we can't afford Nope, nope, nope. Okay, So today, everyone,
we are talking about something we've mentioned on this show

(01:08):
numerous times. We did a whole series on it in
video form and a couple episodes of the podcast on
this we're talking about drones. To what you're saying is
we're going to talk about the music of Brian E. Now, yes,
this is an eno centric podcast. Some of my favorite
music is drone music, particularly if I'm editing or doing

(01:30):
something where I need to focus on audio that is
not musical, but like, especially if it's talking heads or
voices that i'm editing, a little drone in there just
keeps it flowing, having some some kind of crazy trip
in a one of those isolation chambers. You know, yes,
very much like that for that, but that's not what
we're talking about today. We're talking about the vehicles, the machines, drones,

(01:54):
and you know, it's really it is really weird because
if you think about it, what maybe a decade ago,
maybe not even that long ago, a drone was something
when you were talking about it in the news or
in social media, it was generally something very different than
what we're talking about today. You were talking about an
unmanned aerial vehicle that was used by the military, and

(02:17):
we're going to talk about the differences between u a
V's and drones here in just a moment. But it
is weird to think that nowadays you can go to
stores in a mall, you can go to Amazon, you
can go wherever you shop and you can buy a
pretty sophisticated flying drone, one that has camera equipment integrated
into the machine itself, or one that you can attach

(02:39):
a larger camera too. If you go to d j I.
It's one of the biggest companies out there. They back
in the day, they introduced this drone called the Phantom.
Remember the Phantom. You could buy them into Barnes and Noble. Yeah, exactly,
Well in it changed, it really did change the game
in a lot of ways. That particular drone, and there
are several others in the same what can you call

(03:00):
those a quad copter? Sure, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But now
like this year, they've got the Maverick series that's been
updated and it's incredible if if you're a professional actually
working in the film industry, dude, that's all it takes.
You get these stunning beauty shots with those things. It's
mind boggling, the kind of smooth, the way they're stabilized

(03:22):
and all that stuff. I mean, it's just amazing. Ohnology, Well,
I'm thinking in particular, I know we're talking about one
brand here, and this is not an advertisement for d
j I or dig but if you do want to
send us a free uh free dope camera drone, we're
here for it. Yeah. Yeah, and movies now, films, television,

(03:42):
music videos, um, even even uh what what are they
called the people who are really famous just for being
on social media influencers? Yeah, those those folks, they will
use drones. Um. It's just it's crazy. It shots you
used to have to have a legit helicopter to get, yes,
like back in the day, you know, like that's how
you would get those overhead shots. Now from maybe ten

(04:05):
grand for like I mean that probably more depending on
the quality of the camera and stuff, but you could
get it probably really insanely high powered camera drone for
about ten thousand dollars and then the prosumer they go
down from there. I mean I could go buy one
for like a grand or even less. Yeah, for two grand,
you can get a top of the line consumer drone
that will get you amazing shots. Uh. It might not

(04:27):
blow up to four k really well, but it will
look incredible. And the reason why we're talking about this
is just because there are so many more flying objects
now roaming around and there are f a a regulations
that we're gonna talk about here about when you can
fly drones. You can fly drones exactly, and and it's
very good that those regulations are there, but they are

(04:49):
just regulations. They don't stop anyone from flying a drone
at a different time that's not within those specifications, or
you know, flying at a height that's not within those specifications.
And that's the thing that we talked about about how
technology almost always outpaces legislation, and then legislation is just legislation,

(05:10):
um so. And and here's a deal, like if you're
talking about the f a A, you're talking about a
nation on a national level trying to regulate these things.
Then if you just go to a state level, or
you know, even a county level, the rules aren't necessarily
going to change, but it's it's difficult to enforce on
that minute level at the county level, let's say, with
the sheriff's department or something. So basically, with all this

(05:35):
stuff in the air, with all these people with drones,
some weird stuff is gonna happen. Some sightings are going
to occur, no doubt that are now going to be
able to uh, you know, what was once a UFO
may very well be a drone now or a group
of drones, I mean speaking of groups of drones, I
don't remember. I think it was at the Olympics where
there is this crazy synchronized like platoon of a battalion

(05:59):
of drones that would like spell stuff out in the sky.
I think that was through intel. I can't remember, but
it was just insane the way they're mapped and they
you know, they can all move in tandem and in
a grid almost and create all these effects. Uh it
really quickly. We're going to kind of get into a
little bit of the history of of drones as a
term and some differentiations between types of drones. But this

(06:21):
is such a kind of maybe obvious for many of
the listeners, but it didn't occur to me until I
looked it up. Uh, drones are male honeybees, and that
is where the term kind of came into use, because
male honeybee can you know, move up and down and
left and right. That's what a drone can do. It's
really important for getting those kind of shots are to
be able to just hover in place to you know,

(06:43):
get a vantage point and also be able to get
it while moving um. But that's not necessarily the same
I mean, the term drone is interchangeably kind of used
when referring to something called U A v s that
are more like aircrafts, I believe, small aircraft that can
deploy you know, payloads and and precision attacks on targets

(07:05):
for the United States military. Yes, and the big difference here,
every U A V is a drone, but not all
drones are U A v s. Right, pretty similar exactly.
Um So, again, the media and the military are likely
to use the word drone. The f a A uses
the term U A v uh in general. But here's

(07:29):
the other weird thing. A drone can can be a
water vehicle, which is kind of cool you can have
And we talked about this as well. When there's there's
military testing, they create these drone um submersibles that are
like a certain percentage size of an actual submarine, got it,
And they will test them out in that way. Now,

(07:51):
I want to see one that's like James Bond style
both air and c at the same time. Is that
a thing? You know? It is? Is it? But no,
these you know, nobody's talking about talking about that. Come on,
can't give away that kind of secret, that's true. They're
sitting on that I p for a little bit longer
before we can buy one of those. Well, yeah, then
it's got the anti grav drive in there and all

(08:12):
the stuff from Groom Lake Math. You know it is,
it's there, it's real. So we're today, Um, we're just
gonna keep going down this this drone train. It's not
a drone train. That would be cool to drone Yeah,
drone hole. Uh. And we're gonna talk about some mysterious
sightings of drones that have been occurring over the end
of twenty nineteen that are still occurring now in Uh.

(08:34):
And we're just gonna talk about the possibilities that are within.
But we do have to continue down this track of
given some more background information on drones, their usage and
things like that. So, as we alluded to, drones um
have become a bit of a nuisance, if not an
outright hazard. Right, Like any technology, drones have inherent pros

(08:56):
and cons and some of which we weren't even fully
aware of because this relatively new technology, at least in
terms of the sophistication of these devices that are now
kind of everywhere. Right. You see people flying them in parks,
you see people taking them up to like canyon overlooks
and like Los Angeles or whatever. I mean, there's a
lot of them around, which can lead to some sticky situations.

(09:19):
Drones can potentially potentially makes them make things safer. This
is a pro list, not just for pilots, but for
people on the ground as well. They can give you
advanced warning if there's you know, trouble of foot up ahead.
In both military and civilian applications, they are, like we said, affordable,
and they're only gonna keep going down in price and

(09:40):
up in sophistication. That's just how it works. When you
have an economy of scale like this, the tech expertise required,
you can kind of help, you know, launch new careers.
It's it's it's it's a good skill to have. It's
certainly an industry that is that is growing here. Well,
here's the other deal. We've been using a humans drones

(10:00):
for a lot of different applications, as we kind of
mentioned there right now, in Wuhan and other places in China,
drones are being used not only to observe areas, just
to see where where people are and to see where
congestion is occurring. And they're also being used weirdly enough
to enforce the rules that are in place right now

(10:24):
because of the coronavirus and the I don't know if
you call it, the the harsh control that's being put
on the people of Wuhan and surrounding areas trying to
control when people are out and curfews and everything. They're
using drones to go around and essentially verbally accost people
who are not following the strict rules. So there's a

(10:45):
video you can watch online right now of an elderly
woman walking around at a certain time, I guess after curfew,
and it's just saying, hey, hey go back, go back indoors.
But it's just someone speaking through the drone. Uh. I mean,
it's certainly almost become a cliche and like, uh, you
know black mirror type scenarios where you know, things like

(11:07):
drones or AI you know, autonomous kind of robots. I
guess for lack of ivius that's what they are. Um,
there's that kind of tipping point where that technology that
once seems so uh cool and kind of like quirky
and just like oh it's neat, it's neat, fun, it's
new toy, It sort of takes on a more of
a sinister role. UM. As the technology gets more and

(11:29):
more accessible and more and more sophisticated, and and like
we said, um, they have a lot of untapped potential. Uh,
there is there are There is an upside to this technology.
It's not all dystopian. UM. But you know, like you said,
what about people that are lost in um difficult to
reach areas. You know, you could scout them out in

(11:50):
advance with these drones in the same way you might
send a probe to Mars or something. You know, and
um exploration installing telecom m for example, UM, whether I'm
monitoring and all that. But but we get to the
cons and you know, that's really where the rubber meets
the road. And then I can't remember if we mentioned
this in this episode yet, but drones of varying types

(12:15):
can either be autonomous to an extent or very likely,
as most drones are, they are controlled by someone with
essentially a laptop and a controller, and someone is viewing
the camera that's attached aboard and they're manipulating the drone
with their controller and they're just getting a read out

(12:36):
of what the drone is doing where it is. Generally,
that's how they function and when you think about that
when an end user is looking at what the drone
is looking at, you kind of get to start seeing
the picture of why and how this tech could be
easily abused. I mean there's also there's a really interesting
uh and I think very valid um sort of satire

(13:00):
this and one of my favorite Bridge British comedies Toast
of London, where Um Stephen toasts the main character played
by Matt Barry is uh the woman he's having an
affair with. He's making a little extra money on the side,
um piloting drones for the U. S. Military, and uh
he comes and he's like, what are you doing? And
she's just on a laptop and it's like she's playing

(13:20):
a video game and he's like, can I Can I
do it for a minute? He goes, yes, make sure
you blow up the houses on the left side of
the street. And then she leaves and he's just like
going to town, blown up houses. And she gets back
and he goes, She goes, oh, did I say the
left side of the street. I'm at the right side.
Oh lord, But that's you know, to your point, right,
there's this disconnect where when you're not actually you know,

(13:43):
it's just a push of a button. Uh. You know,
not only can mistakes be made, there is that lack
of humanity when you're at such a remove from what
you're actually doing with this stuff, right exactly. And because
anyone can have access to one of these things, Uh,
depending on the legal education of that individual, you also

(14:03):
get into problems. We have a we have a quote
here that we're going to read from uh Vitana dot org.
This is the legal problem with drones. Because drones are
such a new technology, there's a patchwork of laws which
govern their use. Some people may be able to use
drones anywhere as long as they do not interfere with
other aircraft. Others may not be allowed to launch their

(14:23):
drone unless it's on their personal property. That creates gray
areas of legality where someone may find themselves in violation
of a law that they knew nothing about. And that's
a problem. If you don't know the laws that are
governing the activity that you're partaking in, UM, you're likely
going to break one. And again, you're talking about airspace

(14:45):
above public and private areas. Almost always when you're talking
about a drone. Uh, there are so many there are
so many drone operators out there, both amateur and professional,
that know exactly what they need to do, what rules
they need to follow, what laws exist under the f
a A, and they fly their drones responsibly and carefully.

(15:07):
There that I would say that is the vast majority
of drone operators in the world right now, um, outside
of military's And I'm not saying they they don't do that.
I'm just saying the consumer level, the prosumer level people.
But that doesn't affect the reputation that both drone operators
and the drones themselves have have gotten over the course

(15:28):
of the last several years. Yeah, I mean, like I said,
they're they're regarded as kind of a public nuisance, and
I would tend to agree. You know, it's sort of
like an extreme version of like kite flying or something,
you know, to see like I like if if there's
two you know, but it's like it's dangerous. You know,
they can like if someone really screws up, it could

(15:50):
like this, they could hit somebody. You know, there's different
ways that it could interfere with people's lives and and
and and make you feel unsafe. You know. Again, they're
not like massive, They're not going to kill you or anything.
But it's I don't want a plastic thing fallen on
my head from from the sky. Potential damage can occur
as completely. So yeah, they've got this terrible public reputation.

(16:13):
For decades, science fictions kind of taught the public the
potential terrifying consequences of unregulated drone tech. Militaries have also
already used drones to execute human targets. As we know,
you A V kills uh continue to be controversial in
the US. I mean, we've got one that just took
place with Sulimani, you know, and whether or not that

(16:34):
was even legal to carry that out. You know, again,
with that push of a button, you can execute these
precision strikes on very specific targets, um without having to
put a single human being on the ground. Yeah, but
how specific is it? What's the collateral damage of an
explosive launch? You know, there are so many things And
how how did you how exactly did you identify that target?

(16:58):
And are you absolutely certain that that target is the
one that you aimed at? No, don't absolutely, but I
don't think I don't think we're calling into question that
it's probably more precision than maybe dropping a massive bomb
or like mortar rounds on a you know, village or

(17:19):
something like that. Well, yeah, sure, but if it's let's
say your target is in a facility where there are
not only the quote unquote bad guys hanging out in there,
and you're bad guy target hanging out in there, but
there's also staff, like civilian staff and civilian families. Perhaps,
I know, you're absolutely right, it's a it's a tough

(17:41):
thing to it's a tough thing to think about and
then try and make some kind of legislation or or
rules or to create morals around. It's sort of like
the then diagram of like, you know, at what point
is this an acceptable number of civilian catch? Somebody's got
that calculation, what I meanly, somebody has made it, or

(18:02):
I guess it's maybe exclusively at the judgment of the
president himself or the person who's executing the strike. Well,
we talked about it before. One of the solutions was
to categorize any male of fighting age that is defined
as a possible enemy combatant that is operating or hanging
out within an area where a target is operating. It's

(18:24):
really wonderfully messed up. Did you know that it's Actually,
I don't know if illegal is the right term, But
we don't use the word assassination. We don't assassinate. Yeah,
why would you assassinate anyone? That's what I'm saying, Like
it was like legislated like that. That's we don't use
that word anymore. That's like a bad word. And I
forget the exact I think they need to say precision

(18:46):
strike or something along those lines. When Trump made the speech,
you know, his kind of victory lap speech or whatever,
he was talking about doubling down on how killing Sublamani
was the exact right thing to do, and he referred
to it as a flawlessly executed precision strike. And there
was a piece NPR about how we don't talk, we
don't say we assassinated somebody. Yeah. Well, I mean we've

(19:06):
talked about this before. But President Obama really really into
town with the drone strikes, any precision strikes and question
and honestly that that's a big part of what people
remember about him his presidency is that he was he
was real lucy goosey with those with those drones. It
has less to do with the standing president and more

(19:28):
to do with the technology. Agreed and uh, the calculations. Okay,
So um, just really quickly, we talked about how drones
are prone to accidents. We talked about you know, human
error always comes in or not always comes into it
because some of them are autonomous. Uh, sometimes it's technical error.
But you know, if you actually have a controller and
you're flying one, you could crash. One of these things.

(19:50):
Drones do sometimes interfere with nature. Uh. Some of these
drones that are submersible are having effects on marine life.
If you imagine us the frequencies that are generated when
you've got those propellers going for let's say a quad
copter or something. If you're out in nature, we're you know,
we're right now studying scientists are studying what kinds of

(20:11):
effects that has on on animal life as well as
you know, if you think about um wind energy farms
that have the giant turbans, that it is also generating
frequencies and it seems to be having an effect on wildlife.
We've talked about that before. So there's a lot to
think about here. So look, before we really get in

(20:32):
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(20:52):
quick word from our sponsor and we're back. So here's
the other thing, the quite spooky thing. No one really
knows what they're doing. More and more people are going
to spot drones up in there, up there on this guy.

(21:13):
Did you did you spot any? Um, you probably did.
I would, I would, I would hazard a guess, I
certainly have on many occasions. There's a little tiny one
floating around in here right now above our heads. It's
it's it's a silent drone, silent but deadly drone. But yeah,
I don't know what it's doing. It's just making me,
you know, feel things. But no one knows. Many people

(21:35):
do not know what drones are up to. Uh, the
ones you can see, the ones you can't see. Um,
you know, there's a lot of nefarious things that even
you know, consumer grade drones can do. You could use
them to spy on people, for example, to invade people's privacy.
There is a lot of kind of unknown quantities in
this whole drone equation, and there's no accountability, right, that's

(21:59):
the issue. Well, yeah, it's difficult to find accountability somehow
when you have an individual operator somewhere in a county
somewhere within the contiguous United States. Especially remember in Parks
and Rack when it gets into the future and they've
got Grizzle or whatever the kind of uh it's like
a Facebook type company and they have drones that deliver

(22:21):
gifts to people based on their Grizzle profiles, and uh
Ron Swanson just loses his mind because it delivers a
present for his his very young son who has no
social media profile. Right, so what does he do. He
starts shooting him out of the sky. That's gonna I'm
telling you man, that's gonna become a thing. You're gonna
have these like get off my lawn you know types

(22:43):
that are out there literally shooting drones out of the sky. Well,
and you know, if it's on your property and you
have a gun, and you're in a you're in a
state that allows for guns, have that, what do you leegally,
what are you gonna do at the very least. It's
it's good, it's good target practice. Um, but that's right,
there's just no accountability mystery drones. Yeah, this is a

(23:05):
thing around the world and right here in the United States.
Oh yeah, And today we're talking about a couple of
specific let's let's call them groups of sightings certain areas
in the United States where there are a lot of
drone sightings occurring that appear strange, and not only to

(23:26):
the initial reporters and the you know, people actually having
these sightings, but to authorities. So we're gonna jump to
December nineteen last year. The Denver Post and ABC News
and NBC News, the local affiliates there, they all began
reporting about these strange patterns of drones that are being

(23:49):
seen and spotted around northeast Colorado. And we'll see a
little later it wasn't just in northeast Colorado. So let's
just let's just talk about what exactly the sightings were.
Around seven o'clock and at night in northeastern Colorado around
you know, fifteen seventeen drones, allegedly very large ones, came

(24:13):
from somewhere flew over this area and they appeared to
be searching for something that's kind of applying meaning to
the flight patterns, right, But they appeared to be in
some kind of search pattern, and they would They ended
up disappearing around nine thirty ten o'clock that night, so
let's say roughly two and a half hours, three hours

(24:35):
of flight time. Reports were coming from multiple sources. It
wasn't just you know, somebody playing a prank saying, hey,
I'm seeing lights in the sky. What the heck was that?
It was, Hey, there are drones and they're a bunch
of them and they're flying in this weird pattern. Um,
here here's the thing. So the Denver Post then quoted

(24:56):
Thomas Elliott. He's the sheriff of a local county, Phillips
County there, and he describes the drone activity in pretty
pretty good detail. The f a A A was contacted by
Thomas Elliott, the the sheriff they're in Phillips County, who
said they don't know what it is. Um, they at
least they can't confirm anything at this point. Did in
the Air Force chime in two and they didn't know. Yeah,

(25:18):
they said, this is not our fleet of drones that's
operating right now. Um. And then even even Force com
f O R S c O M, the Force com UM,
the United States Army Forces Command. They said, hey, this
is also not US guys. UM. So the big question

(25:38):
is what was occurring in Colorado, northeastern Colorado in December
of What were those drones? That's really our big question
for today. But it's not just this sighting in this
area where it gets crazy is here. Okay, I'd like it.
I like this spin on it. I just I can't.

(26:00):
You can't. You can't do it any better than Mr Bullets.
You gotta give it its own, its own flavor. So
so that that is occurring right now, let's I'm gonna
jump to this other You're just gonna have to bear
with me, nol. I'm with you, you know, jump to
this other story here about one of the first sightings
it was on. This one was on December seventy, nineteen UM.

(26:24):
In this one, there's a sheriff named Tom Nestor. He's
in Lincoln County. He said there have been two confirmed
reports of drone sightings in his county over open areas
such as ranches, and they were first noticed on December. UH.
This is called mystery drones flying over Northeastern Colorado from
ABC News. You can find it if you'd like to.

(26:47):
And here's the thing. Residents in these areas, they have
no idea what's going on. They don't understand why the
drones are being operated at night, and the sheriff there
is worried about the local airport, you know, small airport
that's UM. They have emergency helicopter flights that are going
on sometimes at night, depending on if there's an emergency
or a police operation or something like that. And the again,

(27:10):
the f a A said that this, you know, this
area is pretty isolated in rural and it's not really
a controlled traffic space air traffic space, so they're not
that worried about other aircraft running into these drones or
any kind of major things like this. Just to say
like it wasn't a single county that we were talking
about with the Denver Post. It is multiple counties in

(27:30):
northeastern Colorado that are looking into this, and it's not
just those two counties either, So let's get into some
of these reports. H Sergeant Vince uh Lo Vanilla lovan
Ella of the Morgan County Sheriff's Department UM. He recalled
the moment he began getting multiple drone reports on the
evening of December and he referred to multiple residents calling

(27:55):
in um saying that they were they were seeing all
these drones. They didn't know where they were coming from.
They were hovering above their houses, hovering above their farms. Um,
you'd be hearing reports ranging from four drones to ten
drones in a single area at any given time. UM.
And then he was getting reports that some of them
were low flying. And we're at least six ft long.

(28:19):
Now that's like a U A V. Right, I mean
that's quite large. It's yeah, it's closer to a U
A VA. A six ft drone is is pretty dang
bis seriously, uh so love and ella he you know,
note made a note that the drones were so high
they couldn't actually be heard. But they had white and

(28:41):
red flashing lights that were seen when they would fly
over areas at a high speed. Then they were seen
slowing down, um to that sustained kind of hovering thing
that they do. And um they would do that for
quite a while, which is eerie. And the sergeant there
at the Morgan County Share Department, again this is the

(29:01):
third Sheriff's department for the third county that we're discussing here. Uh.
He said several deputies were attempting to follow the flight
path of these drones, like where are they going? Where
are they coming from? And they're just in their patrol cars,
you know, trying to watch where they're headed, and the
sergeant said they were unable to determine exactly where they
were going. The sergeant there, Livonilla, estimated there could have

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been up to thirty drones moving in concert at a
single time. That's a ton and and it's certainly odd,
especially flying at night because guess what, guys, drones are
not supposed to be flying at night. According to the
f a A A regulations, it's thirty minutes before dawn when

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you can fly a drone, and thirty minutes after dusk,
like after the sun goes down. What do you think,
what's the rationale behind that? Do you think just flying
drones at night it just causes safety hazard? I think
for any other aircraft that makes sense. Um, and I'm
assuming there maybe some privacy stuff going on there, but
I don't know. Just that makes sense officially to protect others,

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you don't fly him at night. And these are definitely
flying at night, and that danger was illustrated when a
medical helicopter had an extremely close call with an unidentified
drone in that northeastern Colorado area on January eighth of
this year. So on that day you have seventy local, federal, state,

(30:30):
and military officials jumping into action, um, getting down there
to the rural town of Brush, Colorado to assemble a
joint task force of between ten and fifteen different government
agencies to come together to solve this mystery. I mean,
that's a pretty serious hustle. Uh. There the sheriff of

(30:50):
Morgan County, a guy named David Morgan. Interesting um, probably
a coincidence. He told ABC that he and his colleagues
were really concerned people might try to shoot the drones
down just what we were talking about exactly and injure
themselves or others in the process. By the way, U
A v s are considered aircraft by the f A,
and shooting down an aircraft is a federal crime, um

(31:14):
carrying a possible twenty years centence. So don't shoot down drones.
But again then you get in the that's the would
be a crazy court case. It reminds me of the
cannabis legislation of you know, states versus federal It's also
I mean, at what point is a drone considered an aircraft?

(31:34):
Is it about size? Is there any distinction between like
the little one I buy from best Buy and like
a six ft long one like we're talking about here.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the
federal the exact federal law, like the letter of the law.
I'd be intrigued. It would be kind of I mean,
I'm sure, you know, I'm probably not a good idea
to shoot anything out of the sky, but you know, still,

(31:56):
I mean I'm interested. Um So, by the time the
task us was assembled there, all right, we got everybody here,
everybody's ready to go. We're gonna figure out solve this mystery.
We got the gang together, we got Scooby, we got Velma,
we got really who's the other one? Shaggy the best though,
like Shaggy, who's the other one with the ascot? Who

(32:17):
was kind of a turd. He never was very helpful.
He was kind of a good looking one. Fred Yeah,
that was Fred Yeah, Freddie, Oh boy, Scoob, Sorry, that's
all I got. That's good. And that was good. And
then and then his girlfriend was was a veronica. It
doesn't matter. We're not talking about Scooby Doo. We're talking
about an elite government task force assembled for the purposes

(32:38):
of getting down. It was about the mystery, That's what
it was about, getting in the heart of this mystery.
But low and behold, as soon as this uh creme
de la creme, you know, as a converge on this town,
everything kind of drives up, the trail goes cold. No
more reports. Well they started tapering off the official reports, right,

(32:59):
but mystery drones started appearing all over other places like Nebraska,
and the local NBC affiliate out their Channel six news, Uh,
let's see there in near Omaha, Nebraska, they started talking
about and reporting a bunch of these mystery drone sidings
at night over farmland. And that was happening in January,

(33:22):
same kind of the same time January seven. Um it
continued to happen. Um, just these weird drone clusters flying
in a formation over farmland. Nobody knows what they're doing
or where they're going. It's just odd. It's just stinking odd.
And this task force got together, but they just really

(33:44):
couldn't make anything happen because they had moved on, I guess,
or at least they weren't being reported as much by
the citizens there in northeastern Colorado. So it's no surprise that,
like you know, people are prone to do, people started
to talk, you know, the rumor mill started going, social

(34:04):
media going ham seriously, social media began fueling this thing
just worked up into a froth. Um, So let's walk
through some of the possibilities. Uh, some of the things
that uh folks were conjecturing might have been at play here. Um,
what's most likely and of course what's least likely. But first,

(34:24):
let's take a quick break and we're back. Uh So
first and foremost, foremost, But first, definitely, first, let's just
address the elephant in the room, the big green or
gray elephant in the room. Uh, like UFOs you mean

(34:45):
that's those are the ones He's unidentified flying objects that
most people have said, Oh wait though they're drones. Yeah, yeah,
that one. So what if extraterrestrials are a real be
here right now a amongst us, uh and see using
what appeared to be U A v S to surveil

(35:06):
our our planet. What do you think about that? Maddie
uh Okay, so the NBC affiliate as well as the
ABC affiliate in uh Well, the the NBC affiliate in
Nebraska and the ABC affiliate in Colorado. Both teams sent
out reporters at night to try and get footage of

(35:27):
these drones, and both of those teams were able to
go to areas where sightings had occurred in both Nebraska
and u near Omaha, Nebraska, and in Colorado Northeast Colorado,
and they were able to see and get footage the
TV footage of these drones. Most of them were like
a single drone that was flying around at night or
maybe two maximum flying around. But and and here's the deal.

(35:50):
They could hear the I believe the Omaha teams that
NBC could hear both propellers on one, and then they
saw another one that sounded like an aircraft, like a
like a plane small place. Um So, I'm sorry, really
quick clarification for me. Can the U a v S
not hover you say they're like small aircraft? I mean
they have to constantly be moving or can they hover

(36:12):
stationary in the same way that a drunk can. A
lot of U A v s, at least the ones
that are known about that have been operating in places
like Iraq and Afghanistan are more plane like. They take
off and they land and they fly through the air,
and when they fire a precision strike, the weapon is
the thing the like missile itself is the thing that's

(36:33):
being guided by. I'm trying, I'm saying this with a
lot of authority, but my understanding is that systems on
the U a V itself and the missile are working
in concerts to take the precision. It's an important distinction. Yeah, absolutely, Um,
But so we're talking about aliens here. The question is,
let's let's say the question is, would extraterrestrials if they

(36:58):
were to visit planet Earth, would they just come down
as you know, their bodily form whatever that is, in
a suit or maybe even in an aircraft of some sort,
or would they send some kind of autonomous drones or
even remote control drones to surveil the Earth before they
come down. Um. My answer would be, well, again from

(37:20):
my understanding and maybe just sci fi tropes, you would
definitely send autonomous things that you can replicate again if
one of those is to be destroyed, and you wouldn't
endanger any member of a species or any important you know,
being and the surface it seems like a very humanitarian

(37:41):
effort kind of it's got that component to it. Well,
even if the even if the drone is armed and
has defensive capabilities. All I'm saying is, you wouldn't risk God,
this is me putting a bunch of my human like
ideas onto this, but in my mind, you wouldn't risk

(38:03):
sending an actual being down. You would just send an
autonomous thing totally. It's gonna check it out, That's what
That's what I mean. I mean, I think, I think,
uh drones obviously have a bad rap for many reasons.
Where they do they do accomplish some humanitarian thing and
that they save the lives of pilots that might go
down with their planes or that might risk their lives

(38:24):
uh for this mission. So it does cut down on
the human cost of this kind of stuff. Obviously, not
for the quote unquote bad guys or whatever, but on
our end or on whoever is wielding the drones, that
as a positive, and that positive absolutely So Here's why
I think a lot of people, once this hit social
media began associating aliens with it, and I think this

(38:46):
is just my opinion that it's being connected to stories
of cattle mutilations, aliens only hanging out in farm country,
because a lot of that occurs over farms and ranches,
and some a lot this activity also occurred over large
swaths of land that are used for farming and sometimes ranching.
So I think that's kind of being connected as then well,

(39:09):
maybe these drones or what we think our drones are
actually the alien spacecraft and they're also doing this other stuff,
this weird stuff out there on the farmland. Um. That's
just my opinion again, because it seems very implausible that
the sightings that are occurring have anything to do with extraterrestrials.
But in my mind, you've got to leave it open

(39:31):
for possibility until you can conclusively prove what it is.
I mean, the internet is gonna do what the Internet
is gonna do. Um, So we move on to maybe
in order of plausibility, I guess we've got secret military practice. Um,
we certainly know and can attribute many quote unquote UFO
sightings to people catching a glimpse of uh classified tests

(39:53):
of secret military tech. Sure right, that's a thing. Sure, Um,
you know, the some of the sidings do put the
drones or estimate the drones to be about six feet
and let's say in I don't know in diameter. Um,
possibly a larger model that we're unaware of commercially, or

(40:14):
there are some models that are pretty dang large and
could fit the bill there. But size of the drones aside,
it feels unlikely that the military would be operating and
conducting tests over private farmland. Generally, when you're thinking about
that kind of thing, you think about Groom Lake and
other facilities like that. They have huge areas of open

(40:36):
land that they can fly things over. Understand, why would
you not do testing? It would be super risky. Yeah,
there are air bases, there are huge areas of land
and sea that are controlled by the United States Military
that you could do that kind of testing over. And
it doesn't make sense to me why they would do
it over you know, private land. But again, yeah, I

(40:57):
don't know. It isn't This one is let's just say,
far more likely though than the extraterrestrial angle. Right. Oh absolutely? Uh,
Matt really quickly, Um, what's I'm so so shocked that
these consumer drones, the battery life on them is garbage,

(41:18):
Like five minutes. Uh, six minutes on some of these.
I'm looking at one that's five bucks and the battery
life flight time is six minutes. Yeah, but do you know,
spend dollars and it goes up pretty heavily and you
can get extra Can you get extra batteries on some
of it? I don't think you can bring it back
and flip it out, But that's neither here nor there.

(41:39):
I was just surprised because I bought like a pretty
cheap drone and I thought the battery life was insanely low.
But now I'm looking at even some of the expensive
ones are quite low as well. Well, yeah, and that
is a thing to bring up here. These drones were
allegedly operating for two and a half three time. I mean,
those are clearly high as high high. I'm looking online
right now, I'm like, where can I get a U

(42:00):
A V for sale? You can't, you just can't. You know,
the best one we could get would be like, you know,
a couple of grand, maybe ten grand or something like
that for a really crazy fancy cinema type one for
the U A V. And well, no, a drum. You can't.
You can't get a you can't. That's not even a
thing there's nowhere a guy like you and me could
get our hands on one that we have to find
some sort of a black market, you know, weapons dealer

(42:22):
or something like that. You know. So yes, to your point,
the flight time really does add to the whole military component,
for sure, but it all depends on the model and
whether or not it's something that is available to, like
you said, consumers or prosumers. Okay, so here's the other thing.
Could this be not just a military practice of some sort,

(42:43):
but an operation like um, let's say they're going out
and trying to observe something on the ground over these
areas of farmland that is not necessarily observable um by
the human eye, and that's why they're operating at night.
Maybe they're using infrared sensors or something. Maybe they are

(43:06):
tracking with some other sensor that we're not thinking about,
maybe radiation. That sounds that's a little implausible, but it's
again something that would be unseeable that you could track
with a machine lets such as this with certain sensors. Absolutely,
I mean, there's you know, there's no question that something
along those lines is going on. Well, here's and here's

(43:27):
the other thing. What if it is some kind of
let's say, grow operation, that's a new one. Now we're
talking about Colorado, Like this is to monitor their crops
and make sure no one's like making sure the cops
aren't trying to snatch their crops or looking for crops.

(43:48):
Perhaps I see, I see, that makes more sense. Or
but what if it is internal, what if it is
a grow operation that is, you know, trying to keep
tabs on their stuff, trying to make sure they're good.
Maybe it's a secret where the stuff is actually being
grown for some reason, especially when you're talking about Nebraska,

(44:09):
because you know, in Colorado, what's the state of marijuana.
Cannabis in Colorado legal? It's okay, So what about Nebraska? No,
not something? Okay, So the drones have been seen in
Nebraska and Colorado, and I'm wondering, and this is complete

(44:29):
speculation on my part that there may be some kind
of weird thing going on between uh, something being grown
in Nebraska and taken over into Colorado to be sold.
That's complete speculation. If you are doing that and are
part of this, I don't care personally, Uh don't reach out,

(44:53):
But that's just my that's my theory. Can reach out
to me if you want. I'm just kidding. But but
could it be Uncle Sam doing something illegal like that
they wanna keep away. Maybe they're um, Maybe they're hunting
for something that's on the ground somewhere, Maybe some kind
of foreign intelligence sensors that exist out in the middle

(45:14):
of the farmland. Why would you have foreign intelligence sensors
in the middle of farmland somewhere? I don't know. Maybe
because it has something to do with strategically placed missile
silos that are across the United States in farmlands. Okay,
is this are you is this? Are you speculating about
this or speculating again? Inside speculating again these secret missile silos.

(45:36):
I'm trying to give examples of why, Like why in
the heck would some unknown military group becombing farmland in
Nebraska in Colorado. It's a good question. What if there's
you know, let's let's go step further unacknowledged research by
some other government agencies, like the United States Geological Survey,
for example, using drones to conduct routines. But so this

(46:00):
is like the innocuous version of this problem that you're describing, right, Yes,
and you know, to do geologic survey activities. We do
have to point out there are agricultural uses for drones
in places like Nebraska and Colorado. Uh and I'm I'm
I'm just gonna put this out there. There are reasons

(46:21):
where you would want to have drones flying over farmland
to check out crops, especially when you're in uh certain
times of the season. So uh, if you go to
the University of Nebraska Lincoln or Lincoln, Nebraska. Uh, they've
got a thing called Crop Watch at the Institute of
Agriculture and Natural Resources. That's a mouthful, Yeah, the Institute

(46:46):
of Agriculture and Natural Resources crop Watch. So they use
they use drones for a variety of reasons for working
nitrogen or you know, managing the nitrogen that goes into
a certain crop, let's say for corn, especially um checking
out something called stand assessment when you're looking at a crop,
like just checking out weeds or scouting for weeds um.

(47:10):
That way, you don't have to actually drive out there
and look out. Let's say you've got a huge swath
of land that's just farmland that's got corn all over
it or wheat all over it, and you want to
assess what's going on with the weeds out there, you
can send a drone and check it out. It's really interesting.
There's all kinds of uses that are being developed for

(47:31):
drone technology within agriculture and farming, and it is a
real thing. So when you're talking about seeing a bunch
of drones on farmland, maybe it's just being used for that. Again,
it gets back to Wi Fi at night though, and
if you're using infrared technology, maybe it's for hunting pests
or for identifying pests that are out like nocturnal that

(47:54):
are out at night, which is another possibility here, but
who really knows. And outside of just agriculture, there are
other reasons that you could be like checking out, like
essentially for mapping, right sure. Oh yeah, so there's the
geological survey stuff. There's think about I mean think come on,
think about the way Google uses cars to to go
around and like take three sixty degree photos of cities,

(48:17):
you know, first Google street View and stuff. How cool
would it be to be able to do that aerially,
you know, with with drones that can take the same
kind of either VR type camera that would be hanging
from the bottom of one of those that can record
literally an entire sphere um at super high resolution. You
could use that for really in depth mapping. I mean,
I can't imagine why if it's not already being done.

(48:38):
It's certainly not being done by the military in secret.
You know. Well, yeah, I mean the satellite imagery that uh,
consumers in the public are not pervy two that exists
out there. That satellite imagery. You don't think you could
get even go even further, get even better, like with
I absolutely thinking if you're taking four K six K
photography over the land, the question is why farmland that's

(49:02):
just got wheat? Or that's true? Well in the other
the argument there is that it's far enough away from
roads where you can't just have a Google car drive
by and get you great images. But you know, but
goods to be pretty transparent about that kind of stuff.
And again you wouldn't do it at night, because that's
not going to make a good image, you know. Yes,

(49:22):
if it was a big company like Google or something
like that, they would most certainly alert the f a
A and local regional authorities that that was going down,
if not just the private landowners. I mean, well, I
don't know would Google alert the private landowners they're supposed
to not be evil. So I would hope they would
at least give them a little call. They don't. They
don't let me know when the Google car drives by

(49:44):
my house. Terrible Google. That's a good question. I've always
wondered that this is a whole nother discussion. But isn't
it kind of invasion? I mean, I guess whatever you
can see from a public place is in the public domain.
You can take a picture of the front of my
house and it be on zillo or whatever. I didn't
have to give you permission to take that picture, It's true. Yeah,

(50:06):
your your your lawn usually does. It's okay. If I
take pictures of the front of your house, like just
at night, I would have not I would expect nothing
less cool. You creep glad to get that retroactive you have.
You have full carte blanche, creep privileges on on my abode. Um. No,

(50:27):
but then you so there you go? Right, So okay,
So let's let's let's just cross some things off the list. Right.
Aliens pretty easily dismissed by far the least likely possibility.
And I'm not scoffing. Anyone that believe in aliens has
been in this scenario. You know, it's again that rumor
mill that kind of tends to get the Internet going
nuts with stuff like this. That's always like kind of
low hanging fruit. Um for a certain type of enthusiast.

(50:49):
Let's say, right, Um, if there was anything weird going
on in the sky, something that could not be explained,
then the proliferation of surveillance technology would make that pretty
quickly apparent. I would say, if these uh devices originated
from outside of our atmosphere or something, right, yeah, that

(51:11):
would get flagged most certainly. And and if the military
was doing some kind of operation out there on private land, um,
they would admit it, at least in a broad turn.
They say, Hey, we've got uh there is something occurring
right now, and we are operating in this area, but
there's nothing to see here. Don't worry about it. Um,

(51:31):
we're gonna move elsewhere for further testing or something like that.
I mean, they admit the X thirty seven B that
we keep talking about on the show over and over
and over, which is a drone. It's an unmanned space drone.
It really does creep me out. Um. Again, this is
this is something that we very much enjoy talking about,
and we monitor what X thirty seven B and the

(51:54):
rest of the amazing mini space shuttles are doing out
there that are just kind of doing their own thing.
Ben Ben in particular is a huge fan of the
X thirty seven B just so everybody is aware of that.
But we do know that the United States has conducted
secret operations where they test things on small populations within

(52:15):
the United States, specifically with chemicals and other things like that.
So maybe you could imagine that these drones are spraying
some kind of chemical. Speaking of that, by the way,
what if they are crop dusting? Okay, alright, so a
kind of a high higher tech version of the old
planes that would that would fly over like in north

(52:37):
By Northwest putting pesticides on a crop, or you know,
treating with certain herbicides to kill the weeds. If they're
using some kind of you know, large GMO seed or
something like that, Um, that's that is very much a possibility.
The weird thing is the landowners weren't aware in some cases. Okay,

(52:59):
so there's more to this. By the way, we didn't
even talk about just amateur operators of drone enthusiasts that
are just doing night flights, which is a possibility, I
don't think. So it does an add up with the
with the the length of time these things were hovering
in the air, the length of the actual it means,
and it is a swarm of them or you know,

(53:20):
multiple drones at one time. Yeah, I guess that doesn't
really match up. But it is a possibility, and it's
more likely than extraterrestrials, I would say, But you know,
we just have to keep that in there. So let's
let's talk about as we're kind of wrapping up here,
let's talk about the social media impact and really the

(53:41):
fear that was generated and concern after this started being
reported in the media. So what if the folks in
these Colorado counties started reacting to the initial reports and
these reports influenced the way they interpret stuff they saw,
like the better minehuff syndrome or complex or whatever. Where

(54:02):
you have something on top of mind, you start to
see it everywhere, a song in your head, a word whatever.
This is like an extreme example of that. Because again
with all of the you know, kind of alarmists alarmism
surrounding proliferation of drones for all those reasons, we listen
to the top of the show. There's a reason people
would not be trustful of them and tend to, you know,

(54:23):
go down those mental rabbit holes when they see it
and think that they're seeing them everywhere and they're after me.
You know, they're they're they're watching me. Right, It's like
almost a form of mass hysteria kind of right in
a way, potentially so. For example, Colorado officials had received
ninety reports of drone activity between November and January. Of those,

(54:44):
fourteen or be confirmed to be hobbyist drones. Of twenty
three drone reports since jan sixth thirteen were determined to
be quote planets, stars or small hobbyist drones. Those are
all very different things, Yeah, because not all of these
sightings are created equally. They you know it the site

(55:06):
or the distance at which the drones are sited or
the alleged drones are sited is very very different. Um.
And again, some can be heard, some cannot, some are
just flashing lights, and some are much higher than others.
And by the way of those, um, let's see the
thirteen since January six uh six were ruled out as

(55:26):
atmospheric conditions or commercial aircraft. What do you mean conditions
atmospheric conditions, you know, swamp gas. I'm just kidding, but
just some kind of other atmospheric conditions, a sort of
visual disturbance, some some sort of like honestly, I'm not
exactly sure what they are referring to there, but just

(55:48):
they were ruled out by the authorities. I got it.
That's a weird one. But there were four that could
not be identified by the local law enforcement, which is something, right,
it's at that point, don't they officially become UFOs they
can't identify. Well, well, here's the deal. Imagine you're reading
the first report that came out in December. Let's say

(56:11):
it's the evening. Let's say you walk outside. You live
kind of near a farm or a bunch of other farms,
and you're just looking around in the sky, and then
you see something that you don't normally see or you
don't normally notice because now you're looking for it and
it's just an airplane, but to your mind, you're primed
to be seeing something that's you know, has to do

(56:32):
with this article the information you've just processed. Absolutely, uh,
that could be exactly what's happening. And then you know
more and more people all of these other reports get generated,
and because everybody's looking for it now, it's certainly a possibility. Essentially,
what I'm saying is false reports. But here's another thing.

(56:52):
What if there were no drones ever? What if the
drones never existed? And this is where we go to vice,
right Vice did some reporting that argued that the drones
never in fact existed. Instead, the drones were, according to
their arguments, simply misidentified despite what was reported as an

(57:14):
organized grid search pattern, regular schedule and all of that.
So what what does that mean? Is this a cover up? Uh?
Are there any some possible like nefarious ulterior motives at
play here? What's going on? Possibly? Let's get into this
other thing here, which is one of the most popular
theories that you may have read online or seen in

(57:36):
somebody's feed somewhere. So among let's call them drone enthusiasts,
people who who like to operate drones, is that the
timing of this whole thing, the end of early is
pretty coincidental with this recently proposed f A, a a rule
that is going to or will would could require drones

(57:58):
to be identified remotely using a unique identifier and GPS
coordinates they get sent via cell signal to a central database,
And a lot of enthusiasts worry that this is going
to reak havoc on their ability to just go and
operate their drone when they feel like it where they
feel like it, in a place that's that they're already

(58:18):
following the rules to be safe. But then this is
just going to add another layer of bureaucracy basically, and
these hobbyists who are against this f A rule think
that this whole mystery drone siding thing over my property
and all of that is a way to drum up
support for this new rule that would at least allow
the f A to keep tabs on every drone that's

(58:40):
flying in the skies. I am interested in what you
think about this, this new proposed f A rule about
knowing where all the drones are at any time when
they're being operated right into us, call us. Let us
know what you think about that, especially if you're a
drone operator. I really want to know what you think

(59:01):
about all of that. Now, as we're getting to the
very end here, I just want to bring up that
I actually personally called the wo w T news desk.
This is the NBC affiliate in Omaha, Nebraska, and they
did a lot of reporting. This is the Channel six
NBC channel there. I talked to someone at the news

(59:22):
desk specifically asked him about the mystery drones and the
reporting that's going on, what they have found out. And
this was just the other day. We're recording this on
February seven. I talked to him two days ago, and
this is what he said. The aviation folks that we
spoke to said the majority of them were actual airplanes

(59:45):
that were being reported, both small aircraft and larger aircraft
that was higher in the sky. The Sheriff's department after
initially investigating, uh, looking into this stuff in the county
where they where they live there in Nebraska, he said
that the department was no longer interested in looking into
this stuff and uh. He further said that the station

(01:00:08):
and the news team were unable to determine if the
drones were actually moving eastward because part of this part
of the story in Nebraska there that I can't remember
if I even talked about, was that the drones appeared
to be moving only eastward from where they were in Omaha, Nebraska.

(01:00:29):
It's just a little odd, but a lot of the
reports were saying that's what was happening, and he was
just saying that the news team couldn't determine if that
was the case. And in the end he believes just
what we were talking about, that it became a social
media phenomena where everybody was seeing drones now and everybody's
reporting it. It's It's a common phenomenon in some of

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these types of stories, though, isn't it. You know, you
start to kind of believe the hype where you start
to believe or you maybe even you there's part of
your brain that like wants to believe it could be.
It's a combination of people that are like really freaked
out and a combination of people that are like fascinated
by it and thinks they're, you know, given the given
the scoop, you know, and they're they've got the inside

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track on this stuff, right, They're part of something. You know, dude,
If this if a story popped up in the a
j C tomorrow about a mothman siding somewhere in the
old fourth Ward, uh, you better believe I'm going to
be out with binoculars just scouring every dark butterfly net.

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Just no, but just searching for a siting, hoping that
I'll get to see it, even if that initial report
was bogus. But if I do see something, I mean,
you better believe I'm calling everybody. You you weren't with
us that that road trip I went on with Ben
and Scott, Benjamin and Casey Pegram for car stuff years ago.
I was there in spirit. We went there, you know,

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to the Mothman Museum. And there's the statue of the Mothman.
Where is that? What's what's what's what's city? Is that
Point Pla, No, that's right, That's right, Okay? Is that
West Virginia? Yes? It is Point Pleasant Maybe is the
statue is a sculpture of the Mothman, uh in their
little downtown square. And he looks like one of those
he Man action figures from the eighties with like he's
got like a nine pack and and a very defined buttocks.

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Ingrid cold Man A big fan who I'm a big
fan of the whole thing, the whole Hey have you
seen the Mothman? Right to me and us? Yeah, you
can hit mad up on social media at Mothman lover six. Yes, um,
somebody someone out there has that us. Your name you think, so, yeah,

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I'm sure you're probably because I tried to use it.
I think it's actually at Matt Frederick underscore. H no,
underscore I heart. Yeah, that's it. So look, let's get
to our conclusion because we do have some information from
the Colorado Department of Public Safety because they concluded that quote,
we at the Colorado Department of Public Safety have confirmed

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no incidents involving criminal activity, nor have investigation substantiated reports
of suspicious or a legal drone activity. The Colorado Information
Analysis Center c i A c R c AC will
continue to receive and analyze suspicious drone activity reports. Sounds
like they're closing the book on this one. Uh, they're
leaving it open for you know, and they're like saying, hey,

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quit bugging us with this stuff. You know, stop letting
your imaginations run while If you want to read the
official report, you can head on over to Colorado dot
gov and search for update drone Activity. You'll probably be
able to find it that way. Got it. Uh, it's
it's pretty good. I mean they're reading good light reading there.

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I mean they're updating it as it goes. So that's
one of the best things you can do. Right now,
besides reaching out to somebody who's you know, reporting on
it or has cited something. So we really just want
to know what you think about all this stuff. Uh,
have you noticed suspicious runs anywhere where you live, especially
if it's in the middle of nowhere or over large

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areas of farmland? Um? Is there something? Is there some
pattern that maybe nobody else is noticing? Right to us?
Talk to us. Conspiracy Stuff show on Instagram, Conspiracy stuff
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gets Crazy page or group on Facebook. Yeah, all you

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gotta do is name myself Matt or Ben, or make
some passing reference to a thing that we recognize from
the show lore, or just make a little pun or
just say something clever, or just bring up Mission control
Paul Deck. We love that too, of course we of course,
how could I possibly leave out mission control himself? I
feel like a real hell no, No, we just will

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know for sure, we'll know you're not a Russian bot
or an autonomous essentient drone trying to get at us. Absolutely,
you can call us. We are one eight three three
std w y t K leave a message, record your
drone siding if you can that would be amazing. Or
fly a drone while you're on the phone with us

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that's not dangerous. Make sound effects with your mouth like
a drone. If you don't want to do any of
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