March 24, 2021 • 51 mins
In the second part of this two-part episode, Ben, Matt and Noel explore the Great Reset. While it's sometimes called a conspiracy theory, the allegations and speculation circling the WEF and Davos are more like a mix of multiple, at-times contradictory ideas. Listen in to learn more about the criticisms, concerns, and bizarre accusations around Davos and the Great Reset.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.
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My name is Matt, my name is They call me Ben.
We're joined as always with our super producer Paul Mission
Control decades. Most importantly, you are you. You are here,
and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.
This is part two of our Dive and Davos and
the Great Reset. If you haven't listened to part one,
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by all means, you can still listen to this first,
but it'll make a lot more sense if you if
you go back to Wednesday's episode and uh and see
the background that we laid out, and you know, I
think that we did um an okay job outlining some
of the basics of this initiative and organization. And then
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I think we did an okay job giving giving the
backgrounds here because as we said in part one, you know,
even to hear the facts part was crazy, like there's
crazy stuff. Yeah. There there was a whole section where
I was like, we haven't even gotten crazy yet, and
it's already crazy. We got pretty crazy. But I do
believe that this part two picks up where it where
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it really starts to pop off. That's correct. So here's
a quick recap previously on stuff they don't want you
to know. Here are the facts. The World Economic Forum
or Davos. It's a great place for great, big ideas,
where where the public sphere and private sphere can come
together and work in harmony for the greater good. And
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our compatriot ball mission Control decade said something very interesting
off air. Uh, Paul, you described You said, so Davos
is kind of like south By Southwest on steroids, And
it's true. One thing we didn't talk about where it
was the abundance of wild after hours parties. Like the
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guys in charge of Salesforce flew out fresh flower lay
from Hawaii for all the attendees of his party. He
also flew out alive. Well. I guess all human bands
are live bands, but he flew out a band that
survived and perfectly like a steel drum band of some variety.
I think more traditional Hawaiian music, but I'm not sure because,
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like many people in the audience today, um I did
not attend Davos. You know, I had the odd, h
I guess, honor or whatever of attending a similar type
of event that is clearly influenced by a Davos, since
this is like sort of the granddaddy of these type events.
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And it's called Summit, and it took play. It takes
place in Los Angeles, and the guy that or did
it literally owns a mountain in like Colorado, remember his name.
But it's this, you know, really, I was there as press.
I was like working on a podcast and I was
gonna record an interview with like the founder of Circus
l A. But like it didn't pan out. But I
had a pass to go, and so I saw some
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of the panels and this is the kind of place
where you see stuff like this only at these kind
of things. I saw Jaden Smith interview Al Gore about
climate change, uh in this weird old theater in downtown
l A. And then I saw that I really enjoyed this.
It was this um interesting kind of mindfulness guru named
Eckhart totally who is like a um yeah, he's kind
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of this like meditative kind of mindfulness, you know, the
guy who is obviously beloved by a lot of these
high powered people who brought him in and he does
speaking engagements. But it was very, very adaptable, and I'm
glad I got to go. But just being there and
seeing the opulence and the types of people that actually
paid for their badges was definitely a bit of a
culture shock for me. Yeah, I've been by did to
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things like that in in a similar in a similar vein.
Probably one of my still one of my favorite things
to go to, even though I know they're not perfect,
are ted talks and ted ex stuff. It's it's always um,
it's always inspiring, even if there are things there that
I don't agree with. I I love the conversations, you know,
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my I don't ever regret skipping out on those things
for a while. I did try to skip out on
a lot of them. But my one big regret is missing, um,
any of the speeches about Corvid intelligence for you know,
obvious reasons, right. Uh, the science is amazing. Yeah, I know, man,
I'm sorry, I feel you. You just need a fleet
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of Corvid's, is that what you call it? Well, I'm
gonna be a murder technically, which honestly, it seems unfairly sinister,
even though I know it kind of tracks with my
view of birds. But for you, Ben, I don't think
a murder seems right. I like a fleet, uh murder
of crows. On check this out if you evert heard
this one, folks, an unkindness of ravens also incredibly unpleasant
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connotations there. Hey, do you guys remember when I went
to the Builderberg meeting? I remember when you went to
the Build a Bear conference? Yeah, I know that was it.
You're right, that was it. Well, they have a lot
in common, you know. I think they're the subsidiary subsidiaries
of the same organization. Right, clearly, we're keeping it in.
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We're keeping it in. We have we have mats that
by far the best part of the show. Uh live
and in fact, is he gonna make some remarks? Nope,
I that's really important stuff. He needed the PlayStation four
controller because, uh, he has things to do, important stuff.
What's the gaming on these days? Man? Right? Nope, Nope,
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this time he's going for Cuphead, which, Uh that game
is punishingly difficult. It's incredibly difficult. Like father, like son.
Can he move things with his mind yet? Anyway? So
moving on, moving on, Yes, so all of us have
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experienced things that are kind of at a lower level
of this sort of this sort of event, but not
near as exclusive as this. Here's where it gets crazy.
The theme of last year's meeting at Davos, the Great
Reset Initiative, was to use chaos in a little finger way,
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to treat chaos as a ladder, as a window of opportunity,
to say that when whatever uh secular god or a
series of circumstances you believe in closes a door, that
forced inevitably opens a window through which you may crawl
into a new world. They wanted to use the chaos
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of the COVID nineteen pandemic as an opportunity to rebuild
society and the global economy at large in a more
sustainable way. Prince Charles, yes that Prince Charles, who may
have recently asked about his relative's future skin tone, kicked
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off Davos with a with a launch, a speech at
the launch ceremony that described key focus areas that were
built on an earlier initiative that he had a pre
existing idea, so he wasn't just like up there freestyling
here are the things I think are important, which also
would have been cool especially of his freestyle rhymes. But
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not there yet. Maybe here's the way he wanted to fix.
The reinvigoration of science, technology and innovation, a move toward
net zero transitions globally, the introduction of carbon pricing, reinventing
long standing incentive structures, rebalancing investments to include more green investment,
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and encouraging green public infrastructure projects. So using financial tools
that already exist or that have been proposed. Two, maybe
not so much push the world at large toward more
alternative energy or it's a less waste, But to incentivize it,
it's very different to make it up. To alter the
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rules of the playing field such that it is more
profitable in the long term to engage in these new technologies,
these green technologies and so on. And yes, we are
well aware of a concept called greenwashing, which is when
a an organization, be it a company or a country,
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purports to do things along this level. But really it's
kind of lip service. This This stuff does seem sincere.
There is solid science that says these things can help
the world, but again, nobody agrees on how they should
be rolled out. Who pays the tab and who gets
who gets the immediate benefits. So of course you've got
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like imagine, you've got this elite meeting of some of
the world's most important people. The city is locked down,
you can't go. Uh. The journalist who do report there,
uh tell stories of extensive security of metal detectors, of
literal snipers posted on buildings, because there are you know,
there are forces that would be antagonistic to a lot
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of the A listers here. So obviously, oh and Prince
Charles kicks off the speech. Obviously, conspiracy theories emerge very
quickly in full force, and they already existed for decades
regarding this organization in other places like the World Economic Forum,
but this time it was different because of COVID and
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because of some other conspiracies that existed before the Davos
meeting or shortly you know, or coalesced shortly thereafter, including
five G including the idea of microchipping and so on.
Some of these conspiracies here in the West, in the
US in particular, we're spread by what have been described
as far right groups. So it's like there is a
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great reset conspiracy that I have a terrible analogy for,
and I hope it's not too too cringe. Worthy um,
but please of course has always forward any complaints to
our complaint department. Jonathan Strickland at I Heart radio dot com.
If you're on like a Q and on forum or something,
you would probably see this and it would be something
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that a lot of people would agree with. This theory,
called the Great Reset, has the somewhat dubious honor of
becoming the first widely circulated conspiracy theory of the Biden administration.
And it's a bit strange. You'll see a lot written
about this on social media and forums, um. And in
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in this theory, you know, we've we've kind of described
you how the wide view of the Davos man is
different from maybe the people who actually go there, and
how there are misconceptions about some you know, of the
ongoings there. But now also there's just not a lot
of transparency about what goes on in after hours, you know,
stuff that's not officially posted on the Davos site or
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posted on social media there um. But in this theory,
it's it describes those who attend and those who run
the whole thing there at Davos as essentially a coven
of technocratic which is really uh, you know, doing in
some ways telling the future and casting spells to affect
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the future. Yeah, exactly, techno financial oligarchs or occultists. Uh.
Current President Biden had a slogan called Build Back Better,
and this was red meat to folks who believe in
some of these theories. They said that build back Better
is actually a cover phrase. It's a euphemism for a
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plan to enslave humanity and end capitalism, to abolish private property,
to imprison everybody who dissents in any way, meaning particularly
that if you refuse to accept the implants of a
thought reading micro chip, off to the gulag with you.
And this this is interesting to me because if you
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look at the structure of this, they can maybe there's
a little meta, but I can. This conspiracy is kind
of like if you go to Chipotle, and so it's
building a burrito for you. You can take the base
theory here globalism, one world governance, and that's kind of
like your tortilla, and then you can add some other
conspiratorial toppings as the mood strikes you. And where do
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I go to invest in thought reading microchip technology? No? No,
just the hot investment true. Yeah, it's uh, it's weird.
Because you would think that if the science were that
far along, there would be a lot of things to
invest in. But medtech is a huge medtech, biotech, whatever
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you wanna call it, is a huge UH is a
huge market. This is not financial advice, as they say
on Wall Street bets. But from what I understand, No,
all you have to do is call up Billy g
Just text Bill Gates, Billy G. Williams. That's Billy D. Williams. Sorry, yeah,
I got it, BG. What's Billy D doing too? Yeah?
He he was in UH was in the Mandalorian for
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a hot minute, wasn't he. No, No No, he was in
the most recent Star Wars big big Screen reboot. Would
love to see him in the Mandalorian. Yeah, I'd love to,
you know, se se him on the show. It's been
a while since we caught up. You know. I do
wonder what he would have to say about this. So
if we're if we're back in our conspiratorial Chipotle, here
the options. You can get his toppings banning religion. It's
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a good old stand by. It always stands the test
of time and comes back up here in the US,
some small version of here are the powers to be
banning religion pops up right before Christmas. Right, they're making
a war on Christmas because of the way they're writing things,
are saying happy Holidays. Another ingredient you could add would
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be crushing all small business. This means that any private
entity that's not affiliated with the big Davos players will
be driven to insolvency or acquired by the in group
of global corporations. Another thing here is something very common
and something we've been watching occur for a long time,
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which is replacing work forces of humanity human work forces,
the bees, the drones that do everything with automation, with technology,
with self checkout lanes. Sorry that that ship has sailed.
I love self checkout lanes and I don't know if
that makes me a bad person all about it. I
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hate them, you hate them. I want to talk to somebody.
Oh man, you talk to us every day. But I
just mean that one on one, even if we're masked
up and stuff. But just whatever. Also, you know, I mean,
it's it's a nice touch to have someone you know
bag your groceries who has experienced bagging groceries because I'm
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very bad at it. I smushed my bread every time.
Uh yeah, there's a there's a there's a tetris to it, right. Uh.
But this this goes further, by the way, because it's
not just replacing, you know, the workforce in that way.
It's in some way altering the humans in order to
make them either unable to work in that way or
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just unnecessary in some former fashion, yeah, for cybernetics force
wet wear kind of stuff. Uh. And then also, you know,
going back to our earlier chapter one episode, imagine you know,
you see somebody who doesn't hit Dumbar's number for you,
and you're just like, that is not really a person
to me. That's that's the function, that's the thing that
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moves the garbage on Tuesday. Then psychologically, you are not
particularly affected, um by a change in the thing that
is doing that function for you. So that's where that
conspiracy comes from. Uh. And then there's this other and
I guess this would be more right wing idea that
this will result in a forced redistribution of wealth, but
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not for the not for the high level players at Dabos. Instead,
it will be forced redistribution of wealth for you know,
the average the average middle class household, uh, the average
lower working class household that they're out to take your stuff.
And when you hear pundits or critics talking about the
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Great Reset conspiracies, they're generally talking about some combination of
these ideas we just mentioned, lots of different possible flavor combinations.
You know what I mean. You can you can add
all sorts of stuff. And then of course the avocado
of anti Semitism pops up right in this chipotle, um,
because usually it often does, sadly still when we're talking
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about globe less conspiracies. But no matter what you add
to the tortilla here, it is still a burrito. It's
still kind of the same thing. And if there is
an employee of the month, I promise I'm about to
let this analogy go. Thank you guys for humoring me
in this conspiratorial Chipotle, it would probably be at least
here in the US, a guy named Archbishop Carlo Maria
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Vigano Vegano, that's right. Uh. And he actually wrote um
an open letter to Donald Trump that was later promoted
on the Fox TV network. Uh. And this was in October.
In this letter, vigan Vigano. And there's a little accent, ever,
though maybe it's a noo who knows. Um. He alleged
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that the Great Reset was in fact a cover for
a scheme built by none other than Billy g himself.
Bill Gates centered on the quote renunciation and of private
property and adherence to a program of vaccination against COVID
nineteen probably some of where the idea of microchip implants
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being part of the vaccination process maybe came from right, um,
But Vigana claimed people who refused a global digital id
from a quote health dictatorship would be imprisoned in detention
camps and lose all of their possessions. Um. So yeah,
I mean, folks, you well may recognize this um having
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a lot in common of this idea of Agenda twenty one.
There's a bit more vaccination centric, right, and Ben, could
we do a quick refresher on Agenda twenty one. Yeah,
So it's a program for sustainable development that comes to
us from the United Nations. But the conspiracy, of course
is that it is a further step toward one world
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government that it would um create not just the global government,
but a global military and then a global currency. Right,
and of course all of the neo Nazis and anti
Semites out there did their best to pin this on
Ding ding ding Jewish people, um with you know, absolutely
zero evidence to back that up. Uh. And then you've
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got the most outlandish, far out idea of them all,
the idea that Grover and Elmo, that's right of Sesame
Street puppet fame are part of this scheme or a scheme.
Bright Bark columnist James delling Pole argued that a w
e F podcast called The Great Reset Resetting Education with
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Sesame Street is propaganda meant to brainwash children, along with
videos demonstrating how to wear a mask and to practice
social distancing, um, things that as we know, we're very
much demonized and politicized um by you know folks in
this in this set. Uh so yeah, so you can
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mind this podcast we're mentioning here, the Great Reset re Education,
Resetting Education with Sesame Street. You can find it on
SoundCloud and you can find it in a couple of
other places. If you go to SoundCloud, you can read
some of the comments that are placed within that file,
because you know, when you're playing a SoundCloud file, you
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can comment at a specific section and it shows up.
I just want to I'm gonna read a couple of
these really quickly, and I will edit myself. Alexander says
death to the new World Order. Jesus is Lord. Another
one says resetting the entire world is a very big job.
Dangerously close, says go yourselves, that people will rise against you.
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You better hide. Are they talking directly to Almo and
Grover or I just know I greatly appreciate this stuff because, um,
it's it's funny. It's public education if it's something you
agree with, but it's propaganda if it's something with which disagree.
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And uh, you know, I I think all of us,
I think all people who were watching Sesame Street at
some point have one or two characters. He didn't trust,
you know what I mean? Like Big Bird always seemed
a little suss to me. He was always kind of
I thought he was the voice of reason. Almo always
rubbed me the wrong way, that weird, little yappy voice,
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and they just seemed like a speed freak or something.
I don't know what his deal is. I'm sorry, I
don't have I don't have a nemesis. What about snuff
up Agus? How come only big Bird can see him?
He's special that way, you know? What about what about
the count? The count is my dude. You like the
Count I got. I like his vibe. Yeah, man, what
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you see is what you get. They never really go
into like the mythology of the Count, like is he
a proper vampire? Does he feed on numbers? I don't know.
And I always wondered why he counts in threes. Whenever
they're doing number of the day, he always counts up two, three, four, five, six.
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I thought, I thought, you many only counts in threes
like one, three, nine. You know that's not because he
teaches you how to count by two. He is all
about all the different ways of counting because he's the Count.
Mm hmm. And then you know, I think for um
many people growing up and especially in these current troubles times,
Oscar the Grouch is kind of a spirit animal, like
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a lot of people get. There's that he's got a
cool hand. Luke Energy of existential on we about him,
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of the Great Reset. Okay, and we're back now. We
just talked about a lot of the claims against Davos
in the World Economic Forum, and they seem to be
pretty out there, some of them, if you're if you're
really thinking about them, pretty pretty hard. But we do,
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you know, we do know that we've already discussed the
real mundane criticisms that are that exist of this group, which, yeah, right,
which is just the idea that this is an absolutely elite,
closed door session where real decisions are potentially being made,
whether you can call them handed down or just influencing
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people with massive amounts of economic and political power. I mean,
you know, you can't really say this is depriving us
of democracy in terms of like the way Congress works
and the way laws are passed. But there's a lot
of closed door stuff that goes on behind that stuff
that we don't see. So this is almost like an
extra an extra level of closed door and nests behind
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an already pretty obscure process um that we are not
always in on. That's right. And we mentioned before at
least we briefly mentioned the whole Green New Deal kind
of thing, the you know, moving to more sustainable energy,
different forms of energy, and you know, it is a
real threat for corporations and individuals who make their money
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off of the the older energy gathering techniques, right, I
mean that that we know that's a real threat to
some people, but we also know that is a potential
planet saving thing potentially if you believe it and I
and I believe it. Yeah, I mean what good? What
good is it? What? One way to look at this
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is to ask yourself. Honestly, you have to ask ourselves,
what good is it to have a very successful operation
when there's not a planet for it to operate on,
you know, And that sounds hyperbolic, but it's it's unfortunately,
it's in the cards of a very large and terrifying
deck called the future. We have to we have to
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point out, you know, first off, neither the domestic political
left or the domestic political right are a percent on
board with the stated aims of Davos. And often you'll
see various groups say that these aims or these goals
do not feel sincere. The domestic right will sometimes argue
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this is a cover for the imposition of communism and
the dismantling of what they see as traditional society, and
the domestic left is pretty skeptical that these global emperors
of capitalism are either going to be a truly capable
or be truly willing to address problems that they have
to a great degree or to some degree created, especially
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when they continue to benefit to one degree or another
from that system. Why why would I logically destroy or
endanger the thing that continues to ensure my financial existence? Right,
It's it's a good question. But then there's secondly, there's
that perspective. We keep going back to it. Who is
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Davos really helping? Beyond the theory? In practice, is this
helping is it helping the environment? Is it helping the
crushing massive people struggling amid poverty, or is it, as
some critics allege, more a matter of helping the world's
wealthy feel a little bit better about all the power
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that they possess. And this is this is something that
I didn't really think about, but it does bear exploration.
I think it does, and it's something we have to
take into account because we talked about motivation on this
show all the time, and you you wonder what each
individual what motivates each individual person, right, And when you
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look at some of the criticism that's coming that continues
to come out, and then you you start to get
a picture of at least how some people are thinking
about it. And let's let's jump to Forbes, a man
named John Malden over there, who has a summation of
this big problem. He calls Davos quote another example of
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wealthy power elites saving their consciences with faux efforts to
help them masses and in the process make themselves even
wealthier and more powerful. Yikes, man, that's I would say,
that's a very to look at it. But is this
cynical though, or is it like realistic? You know, I mean,
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I don't know. Maybe those things can be can work
hand in hand. But like I saw a thing pop
up on a Facebook story the other day or Instagram
story rather the other day. Where are we just talking about,
like the poverty industry with things like check cashing companies,
overdraft fees, um, you know, payday loans or whatever. You
know what I mean, Um, like all of this stuff.
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These are billion dollar industries. And not to say that
any of this is discussed at Davus, I mean, because
it's all kind of behind this. You know, we could
call it a guy's I guess of like making everyone's
lives better. But the question is like who is everyone
and are these just kind of like virtue signaling attempts
to like, you know, help third world countries and and
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help like the quote unquote like global uh poor rather
than like, you know, the poor right here in our
country that that that are largely suffering under this kind
of system of economic oppression. Uh. In my opinion, it's
expensive to be poor, and I wish more people would
talk about that more often, you know what I mean?
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The associated cost of living towards the bottom of any
socioeconomic system can be tremendous, slee difficult. It's it is
in a very real way, uh, kind of plain life
on hard mode in many aspects. And it is a
good question who is everyone, right, who counts as a
person here and to what degree? Before we continue with this,
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I do want to say it is important everyone to
know that when you're talking about an organization of this size,
you are very rarely going to be talking about a
uniform massive opinions. The Davos and the World Economic Forum
are rife with people who are sincerely making their best,
good faith efforts to improve the world while we still
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have something around to improve. But maybe not everybody and
and maybe maybe even those good faith efforts are at
times misplaced. That's what a lot of the journalists criticizing this,
and a lot of the the experts and the researchers
criticizing this are saying, I was surprised that Forbes was
done on them so hard. You haven't seen the rest
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of it yet, folks, But well we'll get there, um
to put it in perspective. So, there are a lot
of talks, right, but there are also a lot of
attractions and a lot of afterparties. One of the most
popular attractions in Davos is a re enactment of uh
where where you experience to a degree, the life of
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a refugee on the run. Attendees crawl on their hands
and knees pretending to escape gunfire. It is a year
over year one of the most popular attractions. I totally
see that, and that sounds, I don't know, maybe an
effort to change your perspective a little bit, but it
does sound performative. I guess what, I what I'm feeling
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right now and thinking about all of this stuff, and
then hearing the criticism of it, and and then even
examining my own inner criticisms of it and my skepticism
that there's anything actually good being done here. I've got
this competing thing where even even going to Davos in
an attempt to discuss some of these big problems and
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seek solutions, even if it is super flawed, feels like
that that individual person is doing way more than I
personally to push forward humanity to the future, right or
in an attempt. So I'm I'm just having problems. I'm
having a problem like viewing it as this big negative thing.
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But I agree with a lot of the criticism put
forward too, So I think there's just a there's a
push pull that I'm experiencing right here, And I wonder
if anybody else listening to is having that right, Like,
is it? Um? I think we're there with you? Is
it in absolute terms? Right? In total terms? Than these
individuals can do much much more than the average person
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right through any number of avenues. But also the question
is that I'd like everybody to ask ask ourselves, is um,
what do you have in common with the people at Davos,
Because you know, not all countries have equal quality of life,
So there are some countries where, uh, someone would be
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considered very poor in comparison to their neighbors. Is living
in amazing life or what people in other countries or
other parts of the world would consider an amazing life,
you know. Um, so it's a question we have to
turn on ourselves to like what what have I done?
What am I doing? What will I do? And I
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think it's I think it's an appropriate and since youre
question to ask and for the for the work that's
being done at Davos, you know, I think there's a
lot of it that's worthy of applause. But this is
about the dark side and the problems. So the third
point of criticism here, I want to go back to
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that phrase mentioned earlier, stakeholder capitalism. Well, that's so good,
right with stakeholders? Were all stakeholders. Now you're a CEO,
I am a farmer, and here's the person that repairs
the tractor, and here's the person that takes out the
garbage on Tuesday. All of us are equal in that
(33:15):
we are stakeholders in this new form of capitalism. It's
a slick phrase, but dangerously vague, Yeah, because I mean
there's no parody right between these different stakeholders at all.
I mean they are the stakeholders at the top, who
you know, you could probably change a few letters and
call them stockholders. Uh. And then you've got like your
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you know, lower lower tier workers who absolutely keep the
trains running on time and keep the manufacturing process running
correctly or whatever. Um. But they they they're not on
an equal footing as the folks at the top, no way.
So you're right. It's sort of like a feel good
y kind of of of of way of referring to
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these things that implies we're all in this together, except
you know, not not really. My assistant told me not
everybody goes to college. Think about that, folks, think about it.
All right, guys. I love what we're doing here. I
learned a lot better when we're working in analogies. Is
(34:18):
there any chance we could jump back to Chipotle? Been sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's go. Let's go. What do you got? What's on
the menu? I don't know. I'm going to you man
about I just know those chips are on point. They're salty, though, man,
they're a little too salty. Well, can we do a
case adilla analogy this time? It's not there like go
(34:39):
to menu item, but they'll do one for you. They'll
do it. Yeah, you just have to exercise. You just
have to have good charisma stats after it's off menu,
so you know, you gotta roll at least a six
to get it, to get them to make you a
case of um. Yeah, case Ada by far one of
my favorite foods unrecognized. God, I'm gonna make one right
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after this. Okay. So if we're going back with Archipotle analogy,
then we would say to Schwab, to Professor Schwab, if
he is ordering a burrito or sorry at case Ada,
if he's ordering in case Adia and that case Adia
is stock whole stakeholder capitalism, then he's not really being
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helpful to the people who are supposed to, you know,
create this case Ada because they say, okay, you know
they got the tortilla right of globalism, and then they say, well,
what is stakeholder capitalism? What goes in this case idia, professor,
and then the professor steak Well, the professor goes, uh,
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you know what really goes into this case a dia
is the idea of responsibility and accountability. And they're like,
we don't have that kind of cheese. Are you talking
about corporate personhood? Right? That's right as as this be
a weird off menu item. There's a guy name Ben
six Smith, which has a great name for ning fans
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of Cloud Atlas especially. He argues that this is not
a bug, that this is a feature. It is vague
by design because then it allows these gigantic companies to
kind of interpret what stakeholder capitalism is as they wish.
And this leads us to ask ourselves, you know, is
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this really a new innovative attempt at something different this
case idea, or is it really just kind of a
burrito that we rolled differently to look like it was
a new menu item when it's the same stuff with
the same ingredients. You just flattened it. You just flattened it,
just flattened it to make it look different at the time.
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So there's uh. There's an author named Naomi Klein who
is writing for The Intercept, and she claims the Great
Reset is just this. She calls it a COVID brain
ended reiteration of all this stuff Davos already does. She says,
quote in short, the Great Reset encompasses some good stuff
that won't happen and some bad stuff that certainly will,
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and frankly, nothing out of the ordinary in our era
of green billionaires readying rockets from ours. Oh man, she continues, Yeah,
but so basically all the bad stuff is gonna happen anyway.
These are these are lovely ideas. They're never gonna happen.
And everybody else, everybody that can is getting the hell
out of here. Yeah. She She goes further too, because
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she says furthermore, the w e F has historically been
against a lot of the solutions or a lot of
the things rather that could have the potential to address
or solve the issues, it claims the champion. It's like, well,
why aren't they bigger fans of more robust regulation or
(37:57):
protection for local industries, progressive taxi shan and and I
think she prefaces this with like and god forbid nationalization,
which is, you know, a hugely hot topic in oil
wars of years gone by. Um, and she calls it
something she coined to freeze that I think we'll all enjoy,
(38:17):
called shock doctrine. Yeah. You know, I'm always a fan
of smashing things together at the one. Let's go shock
trine too obvious. I like shock doctrine. It's fun to say,
which is an attempt by the elite to leverage things
like COVID nineteen or you know, catastrophic weather, um, infrastructure
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collapse and all that as a way of kind of
ramming through these policies that quote further enrich the already
wealthy and restrict democratic liberties. That's that's that's according to Kliin,
reminds me a bit of the Patriot Act. Guys. Yeah,
and she goes on to point out Ben, what I
believe is your very favorite headline of this entire article,
(39:00):
because probably because it's food based. But she u titled
her article the Great Reset Conspiracy Smoothie UM to to
keep in line with all of these food metaphors. Yeah,
she went with she with smoothies, we went with uh,
we went Chipotle. You know. But I respect the craft,
I respect the work for sure. Um. And And whether
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or not you know you personally are a fan of
capitalism rit large, you know, capital c capitalism, or whether
you are of the achalon of society that would attend
Davos um, it's pretty clear that the idea of philanthropy,
and we've talked about this in the past. There's an
episode in particular things called the Dark Side of philanthropy
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or something along those lines. It, Yeah, can have just
that a dark side. Um, and Ben, you came up
with a great term for this. We've already talked about greenwashing.
Uh so what what would what would be a term
to describe the kind of optics of benevolence? Uh that
that that all of this stuff kind of has. Oh boy, okay,
(40:03):
still workshopping this one. So everybody go easy. I mean
good washing, good washing? What is what is good washing? Uh?
Maybe the mic drop moment comes from Steve Dunning also
at Forbes. I'm still kind of surprised they wrote about
Davos this way. Dunning says firms can go on privately
shoveling money to their shareholders and executives while maintaining a
(40:25):
public front of exquisite social sensitivity and exemplary altruism. And
then six Smith comes in, you know, like dropping a
cameo in the verse there and says Amazon can proclaim
that black lives matter, for example, while it's employees pissing
bottles for fear of being fired for taking toilet breaks.
That's the mic drop moment, right right right? But it's
(40:46):
it's good washing, isn't it. Look what we are doing
for society, just not for our employees. Um I speaking
speaking of Pitts Brakes. Guys, I'm gonna need to do
that really quickly. But we will be right back with
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is maybe what this is maybe the most important part.
How much sand do these conspiracies and these criticisms actually hold.
I think we can all agree that if this is
a vast communist conspiracy to turn all the governments of
the world democratic authoritarian, what have you into one big
(41:33):
communist government or socialist at the very least right or
socialist at very least Yeah, good point. There're two different things,
but you know, trending in the same direction. Uh well,
if that were the case, the only thing we can
say for sure is this would be one hell of
a plot twist for Professor Schwab and pretty much all
the companies that are participating in Davos. I mean, think
(41:54):
about like Apple, Feiser, lockeed. Are they are they really
known for their radical left wing ideologies? Is it like
Fiser uh down down with the neoliberals or something. I
don't really think so, not so much. They're still getting
paid for vaccines. Remember they're making money. That's a good
point then, And it's the pandemic that really kind of
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brings all of this into focus because every single country,
every one of these companies is in a pretty difficult
position in that if you move too far along in
a solution kind of in your own wheelhouse, um, you've
got no way of making these other organizations do the same,
meaning that there has to be some level of cooperation
(42:39):
for the system to hold for for everything to kind
of hold together. If you're out completely in left field
or right field, or whichever direction the field you find
yourself in, uh, you're not going to be successful. Then
if these big businesses were working in concert, right, Yeah, absolutely,
And think about it. You know, if you're a big
business and you are and you have competitors in the market,
(43:02):
and you say I'm going to make these radical changes
on my home turf and nobody else does, then your
stuff might get more and more expensive, it might be
more and more difficult to run your day to day business.
You might end up being bankrupt because you were not
able to move as a as a unit with these larger,
larger industry players. I mean, it's a thing that we
(43:24):
can't miss, you know, regardless of how you feel about
Davos or globalism, Professor Schwab, not for nothing. He's right.
Capitalism as it stands today has these massive, dangerous, possibly
fatal uh structural problems. And these problems really are too
(43:44):
big to tackle through conventional means. The stuff that worked
in the past, it's probably not gonna work now. And
that brings us to a weird spot, right, because the
erosion of the short lived age of privacy is very real. Right.
We are in a surveillance state, and we have been
the long term prospects of life for this species spoiler
(44:04):
alert not looking particularly swell at the moment. And unfortunately,
we don't need some wild easily disproven story about Bill
Gates and COVID microchips to come to either of those conclusions.
They are inarguable and they are fact uh and and
stepping stepping down off the uh off what do you
(44:28):
call it? Soapbox here? Um, I was wondering. People really
used to stand on soapboxes for sure, and even like
on film sets they use apple boxes, that's they still
they still call them that anyway, But they're basically just
like expensive, you know, hollow pieces of like wooden frame
to make shorter actors look taller. I just want to say, guys,
before we finish up here. You guys know this, and
(44:51):
I've mentioned this before in a couple of shows. I
personally lost my religious faith a long time ago. And
when I lost it, I put that I put that
faith that's that need to believe in something it was
still existed. I put it in groups of intelligent people
getting together and trying to solve problems. And that's really
(45:13):
where I put my faith. Like, Okay, if if this
isn't going to help me in my belief, my belief
now is this religion isn't gonna help me, at least
humanity is going to help me, and you know, all
of us get through these things. So this episode has
been really difficult personally for me to um square just
to square some of it because I agree with the
realities that we've outlined here, with the problems of criticisms.
(45:36):
I agree with that stuff. It's just tough thinking that
our best option is so flawed. Secular humanism, that's what
I should call it. I just it's tough knowing that
the elite secular humanism movement is Yeah, but they're they're
called the elite because there's their small percentage, you know,
(45:59):
of of humanity. And sure they have a lot of
control over the course of humanity, but they are not humanity.
And I would argue that in general, I've seen a
lot of outpouring of of of of wonderful qualities of humanity, um,
during this pandemic of like, you know, being there for
your fellow human and just kind of like having each
(46:20):
other's backs and all of that stuff. And and now
I'm kumbayeing a little bit, but I have not lost
faith in humanity at large. But yeah, it's a bummer
when when so few, uh, very very very powerful stakeholders
kind of set the course you know for so many others.
It's all beautiful, Nolan, I I agree with you. It's
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just how do we solve the water crisis problem? Right? Well,
we can leave that, we can leave that conversation for
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My name is Matt, my name is They call me Ben.
We're joined as always with our super producer Paul Mission
Control decades. Most importantly, you are you. You are here,
and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.
This is part two of our Dive and Davos and
the Great Reset. If you haven't listened to part one,
(00:48):
by all means, you can still listen to this first,
but it'll make a lot more sense if you if
you go back to Wednesday's episode and uh and see
the background that we laid out, and you know, I
think that we did um an okay job outlining some
of the basics of this initiative and organization. And then
(01:08):
I think we did an okay job giving giving the
backgrounds here because as we said in part one, you know,
even to hear the facts part was crazy, like there's
crazy stuff. Yeah. There there was a whole section where
I was like, we haven't even gotten crazy yet, and
it's already crazy. We got pretty crazy. But I do
believe that this part two picks up where it where
(01:30):
it really starts to pop off. That's correct. So here's
a quick recap previously on stuff they don't want you
to know. Here are the facts. The World Economic Forum
or Davos. It's a great place for great, big ideas,
where where the public sphere and private sphere can come
together and work in harmony for the greater good. And
(01:51):
our compatriot ball mission Control decade said something very interesting
off air. Uh, Paul, you described You said, so Davos
is kind of like south By Southwest on steroids, And
it's true. One thing we didn't talk about where it
was the abundance of wild after hours parties. Like the
(02:13):
guys in charge of Salesforce flew out fresh flower lay
from Hawaii for all the attendees of his party. He
also flew out alive. Well. I guess all human bands
are live bands, but he flew out a band that
survived and perfectly like a steel drum band of some variety.
I think more traditional Hawaiian music, but I'm not sure because,
(02:35):
like many people in the audience today, um I did
not attend Davos. You know, I had the odd, h
I guess, honor or whatever of attending a similar type
of event that is clearly influenced by a Davos, since
this is like sort of the granddaddy of these type events.
(02:55):
And it's called Summit, and it took play. It takes
place in Los Angeles, and the guy that or did
it literally owns a mountain in like Colorado, remember his name.
But it's this, you know, really, I was there as press.
I was like working on a podcast and I was
gonna record an interview with like the founder of Circus
l A. But like it didn't pan out. But I
had a pass to go, and so I saw some
(03:16):
of the panels and this is the kind of place
where you see stuff like this only at these kind
of things. I saw Jaden Smith interview Al Gore about
climate change, uh in this weird old theater in downtown
l A. And then I saw that I really enjoyed this.
It was this um interesting kind of mindfulness guru named
Eckhart totally who is like a um yeah, he's kind
(03:38):
of this like meditative kind of mindfulness, you know, the
guy who is obviously beloved by a lot of these
high powered people who brought him in and he does
speaking engagements. But it was very, very adaptable, and I'm
glad I got to go. But just being there and
seeing the opulence and the types of people that actually
paid for their badges was definitely a bit of a
culture shock for me. Yeah, I've been by did to
(04:01):
things like that in in a similar in a similar vein.
Probably one of my still one of my favorite things
to go to, even though I know they're not perfect,
are ted talks and ted ex stuff. It's it's always um,
it's always inspiring, even if there are things there that
I don't agree with. I I love the conversations, you know,
(04:22):
my I don't ever regret skipping out on those things
for a while. I did try to skip out on
a lot of them. But my one big regret is missing, um,
any of the speeches about Corvid intelligence for you know,
obvious reasons, right. Uh, the science is amazing. Yeah, I know, man,
I'm sorry, I feel you. You just need a fleet
(04:43):
of Corvid's, is that what you call it? Well, I'm
gonna be a murder technically, which honestly, it seems unfairly sinister,
even though I know it kind of tracks with my
view of birds. But for you, Ben, I don't think
a murder seems right. I like a fleet, uh murder
of crows. On check this out if you evert heard
this one, folks, an unkindness of ravens also incredibly unpleasant
(05:06):
connotations there. Hey, do you guys remember when I went
to the Builderberg meeting? I remember when you went to
the Build a Bear conference? Yeah, I know that was it.
You're right, that was it. Well, they have a lot
in common, you know. I think they're the subsidiary subsidiaries
of the same organization. Right, clearly, we're keeping it in.
(05:28):
We're keeping it in. We have we have mats that
by far the best part of the show. Uh live
and in fact, is he gonna make some remarks? Nope,
I that's really important stuff. He needed the PlayStation four
controller because, uh, he has things to do, important stuff.
What's the gaming on these days? Man? Right? Nope, Nope,
(05:50):
this time he's going for Cuphead, which, Uh that game
is punishingly difficult. It's incredibly difficult. Like father, like son.
Can he move things with his mind yet? Anyway? So
moving on, moving on, Yes, so all of us have
(06:11):
experienced things that are kind of at a lower level
of this sort of this sort of event, but not
near as exclusive as this. Here's where it gets crazy.
The theme of last year's meeting at Davos, the Great
Reset Initiative, was to use chaos in a little finger way,
(06:36):
to treat chaos as a ladder, as a window of opportunity,
to say that when whatever uh secular god or a
series of circumstances you believe in closes a door, that
forced inevitably opens a window through which you may crawl
into a new world. They wanted to use the chaos
(06:56):
of the COVID nineteen pandemic as an opportunity to rebuild
society and the global economy at large in a more
sustainable way. Prince Charles, yes that Prince Charles, who may
have recently asked about his relative's future skin tone, kicked
(07:17):
off Davos with a with a launch, a speech at
the launch ceremony that described key focus areas that were
built on an earlier initiative that he had a pre
existing idea, so he wasn't just like up there freestyling
here are the things I think are important, which also
would have been cool especially of his freestyle rhymes. But
(07:39):
not there yet. Maybe here's the way he wanted to fix.
The reinvigoration of science, technology and innovation, a move toward
net zero transitions globally, the introduction of carbon pricing, reinventing
long standing incentive structures, rebalancing investments to include more green investment,
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and encouraging green public infrastructure projects. So using financial tools
that already exist or that have been proposed. Two, maybe
not so much push the world at large toward more
alternative energy or it's a less waste, But to incentivize it,
it's very different to make it up. To alter the
(08:23):
rules of the playing field such that it is more
profitable in the long term to engage in these new technologies,
these green technologies and so on. And yes, we are
well aware of a concept called greenwashing, which is when
a an organization, be it a company or a country,
(08:46):
purports to do things along this level. But really it's
kind of lip service. This This stuff does seem sincere.
There is solid science that says these things can help
the world, but again, nobody agrees on how they should
be rolled out. Who pays the tab and who gets
who gets the immediate benefits. So of course you've got
(09:10):
like imagine, you've got this elite meeting of some of
the world's most important people. The city is locked down,
you can't go. Uh. The journalist who do report there,
uh tell stories of extensive security of metal detectors, of
literal snipers posted on buildings, because there are you know,
there are forces that would be antagonistic to a lot
(09:32):
of the A listers here. So obviously, oh and Prince
Charles kicks off the speech. Obviously, conspiracy theories emerge very
quickly in full force, and they already existed for decades
regarding this organization in other places like the World Economic Forum,
but this time it was different because of COVID and
(09:54):
because of some other conspiracies that existed before the Davos
meeting or shortly you know, or coalesced shortly thereafter, including
five G including the idea of microchipping and so on.
Some of these conspiracies here in the West, in the
US in particular, we're spread by what have been described
as far right groups. So it's like there is a
(10:17):
great reset conspiracy that I have a terrible analogy for,
and I hope it's not too too cringe. Worthy um,
but please of course has always forward any complaints to
our complaint department. Jonathan Strickland at I Heart radio dot com.
If you're on like a Q and on forum or something,
you would probably see this and it would be something
(10:38):
that a lot of people would agree with. This theory,
called the Great Reset, has the somewhat dubious honor of
becoming the first widely circulated conspiracy theory of the Biden administration.
And it's a bit strange. You'll see a lot written
about this on social media and forums, um. And in
(11:01):
in this theory, you know, we've we've kind of described
you how the wide view of the Davos man is
different from maybe the people who actually go there, and
how there are misconceptions about some you know, of the
ongoings there. But now also there's just not a lot
of transparency about what goes on in after hours, you know,
stuff that's not officially posted on the Davos site or
(11:23):
posted on social media there um. But in this theory,
it's it describes those who attend and those who run
the whole thing there at Davos as essentially a coven
of technocratic which is really uh, you know, doing in
some ways telling the future and casting spells to affect
(11:43):
the future. Yeah, exactly, techno financial oligarchs or occultists. Uh.
Current President Biden had a slogan called Build Back Better,
and this was red meat to folks who believe in
some of these theories. They said that build back Better
is actually a cover phrase. It's a euphemism for a
(12:04):
plan to enslave humanity and end capitalism, to abolish private property,
to imprison everybody who dissents in any way, meaning particularly
that if you refuse to accept the implants of a
thought reading micro chip, off to the gulag with you.
And this this is interesting to me because if you
(12:25):
look at the structure of this, they can maybe there's
a little meta, but I can. This conspiracy is kind
of like if you go to Chipotle, and so it's
building a burrito for you. You can take the base
theory here globalism, one world governance, and that's kind of
like your tortilla, and then you can add some other
conspiratorial toppings as the mood strikes you. And where do
(12:45):
I go to invest in thought reading microchip technology? No? No,
just the hot investment true. Yeah, it's uh, it's weird.
Because you would think that if the science were that
far along, there would be a lot of things to
invest in. But medtech is a huge medtech, biotech, whatever
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you wanna call it, is a huge UH is a
huge market. This is not financial advice, as they say
on Wall Street bets. But from what I understand, No,
all you have to do is call up Billy g
Just text Bill Gates, Billy G. Williams. That's Billy D. Williams. Sorry, yeah,
I got it, BG. What's Billy D doing too? Yeah?
He he was in UH was in the Mandalorian for
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a hot minute, wasn't he. No, No No, he was in
the most recent Star Wars big big Screen reboot. Would
love to see him in the Mandalorian. Yeah, I'd love to,
you know, se se him on the show. It's been
a while since we caught up. You know. I do
wonder what he would have to say about this. So
if we're if we're back in our conspiratorial Chipotle, here
the options. You can get his toppings banning religion. It's
(13:51):
a good old stand by. It always stands the test
of time and comes back up here in the US,
some small version of here are the powers to be
banning religion pops up right before Christmas. Right, they're making
a war on Christmas because of the way they're writing things,
are saying happy Holidays. Another ingredient you could add would
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be crushing all small business. This means that any private
entity that's not affiliated with the big Davos players will
be driven to insolvency or acquired by the in group
of global corporations. Another thing here is something very common
and something we've been watching occur for a long time,
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which is replacing work forces of humanity human work forces,
the bees, the drones that do everything with automation, with technology,
with self checkout lanes. Sorry that that ship has sailed.
I love self checkout lanes and I don't know if
that makes me a bad person all about it. I
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hate them, you hate them. I want to talk to somebody.
Oh man, you talk to us every day. But I
just mean that one on one, even if we're masked
up and stuff. But just whatever. Also, you know, I mean,
it's it's a nice touch to have someone you know
bag your groceries who has experienced bagging groceries because I'm
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very bad at it. I smushed my bread every time.
Uh yeah, there's a there's a there's a tetris to it, right. Uh.
But this this goes further, by the way, because it's
not just replacing, you know, the workforce in that way.
It's in some way altering the humans in order to
make them either unable to work in that way or
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just unnecessary in some former fashion, yeah, for cybernetics force
wet wear kind of stuff. Uh. And then also, you know,
going back to our earlier chapter one episode, imagine you know,
you see somebody who doesn't hit Dumbar's number for you,
and you're just like, that is not really a person
to me. That's that's the function, that's the thing that
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moves the garbage on Tuesday. Then psychologically, you are not
particularly affected, um by a change in the thing that
is doing that function for you. So that's where that
conspiracy comes from. Uh. And then there's this other and
I guess this would be more right wing idea that
this will result in a forced redistribution of wealth, but
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not for the not for the high level players at Dabos. Instead,
it will be forced redistribution of wealth for you know,
the average the average middle class household, uh, the average
lower working class household that they're out to take your stuff.
And when you hear pundits or critics talking about the
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Great Reset conspiracies, they're generally talking about some combination of
these ideas we just mentioned, lots of different possible flavor combinations.
You know what I mean. You can you can add
all sorts of stuff. And then of course the avocado
of anti Semitism pops up right in this chipotle, um,
because usually it often does, sadly still when we're talking
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about globe less conspiracies. But no matter what you add
to the tortilla here, it is still a burrito. It's
still kind of the same thing. And if there is
an employee of the month, I promise I'm about to
let this analogy go. Thank you guys for humoring me
in this conspiratorial Chipotle, it would probably be at least
here in the US, a guy named Archbishop Carlo Maria
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Vigano Vegano, that's right. Uh. And he actually wrote um
an open letter to Donald Trump that was later promoted
on the Fox TV network. Uh. And this was in October.
In this letter, vigan Vigano. And there's a little accent, ever,
though maybe it's a noo who knows. Um. He alleged
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that the Great Reset was in fact a cover for
a scheme built by none other than Billy g himself.
Bill Gates centered on the quote renunciation and of private
property and adherence to a program of vaccination against COVID
nineteen probably some of where the idea of microchip implants
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being part of the vaccination process maybe came from right, um,
But Vigana claimed people who refused a global digital id
from a quote health dictatorship would be imprisoned in detention
camps and lose all of their possessions. Um. So yeah,
I mean, folks, you well may recognize this um having
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a lot in common of this idea of Agenda twenty one.
There's a bit more vaccination centric, right, and Ben, could
we do a quick refresher on Agenda twenty one. Yeah,
So it's a program for sustainable development that comes to
us from the United Nations. But the conspiracy, of course
is that it is a further step toward one world
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government that it would um create not just the global government,
but a global military and then a global currency. Right,
and of course all of the neo Nazis and anti
Semites out there did their best to pin this on
Ding ding ding Jewish people, um with you know, absolutely
zero evidence to back that up. Uh. And then you've
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got the most outlandish, far out idea of them all,
the idea that Grover and Elmo, that's right of Sesame
Street puppet fame are part of this scheme or a scheme.
Bright Bark columnist James delling Pole argued that a w
e F podcast called The Great Reset Resetting Education with
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Sesame Street is propaganda meant to brainwash children, along with
videos demonstrating how to wear a mask and to practice
social distancing, um, things that as we know, we're very
much demonized and politicized um by you know folks in
this in this set. Uh so yeah, so you can
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mind this podcast we're mentioning here, the Great Reset re Education,
Resetting Education with Sesame Street. You can find it on
SoundCloud and you can find it in a couple of
other places. If you go to SoundCloud, you can read
some of the comments that are placed within that file,
because you know, when you're playing a SoundCloud file, you
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can comment at a specific section and it shows up.
I just want to I'm gonna read a couple of
these really quickly, and I will edit myself. Alexander says
death to the new World Order. Jesus is Lord. Another
one says resetting the entire world is a very big job.
Dangerously close, says go yourselves, that people will rise against you.
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You better hide. Are they talking directly to Almo and
Grover or I just know I greatly appreciate this stuff because, um,
it's it's funny. It's public education if it's something you
agree with, but it's propaganda if it's something with which disagree.
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And uh, you know, I I think all of us,
I think all people who were watching Sesame Street at
some point have one or two characters. He didn't trust,
you know what I mean? Like Big Bird always seemed
a little suss to me. He was always kind of
I thought he was the voice of reason. Almo always
rubbed me the wrong way, that weird, little yappy voice,
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and they just seemed like a speed freak or something.
I don't know what his deal is. I'm sorry, I
don't have I don't have a nemesis. What about snuff
up Agus? How come only big Bird can see him?
He's special that way, you know? What about what about
the count? The count is my dude. You like the
Count I got. I like his vibe. Yeah, man, what
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you see is what you get. They never really go
into like the mythology of the Count, like is he
a proper vampire? Does he feed on numbers? I don't know.
And I always wondered why he counts in threes. Whenever
they're doing number of the day, he always counts up two, three, four, five, six.
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I thought, I thought, you many only counts in threes
like one, three, nine. You know that's not because he
teaches you how to count by two. He is all
about all the different ways of counting because he's the Count.
Mm hmm. And then you know, I think for um
many people growing up and especially in these current troubles times,
Oscar the Grouch is kind of a spirit animal, like
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a lot of people get. There's that he's got a
cool hand. Luke Energy of existential on we about him,
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of the Great Reset. Okay, and we're back now. We
just talked about a lot of the claims against Davos
in the World Economic Forum, and they seem to be
pretty out there, some of them, if you're if you're
really thinking about them, pretty pretty hard. But we do,
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you know, we do know that we've already discussed the
real mundane criticisms that are that exist of this group, which, yeah, right,
which is just the idea that this is an absolutely elite,
closed door session where real decisions are potentially being made,
whether you can call them handed down or just influencing
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people with massive amounts of economic and political power. I mean,
you know, you can't really say this is depriving us
of democracy in terms of like the way Congress works
and the way laws are passed. But there's a lot
of closed door stuff that goes on behind that stuff
that we don't see. So this is almost like an
extra an extra level of closed door and nests behind
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an already pretty obscure process um that we are not
always in on. That's right. And we mentioned before at
least we briefly mentioned the whole Green New Deal kind
of thing, the you know, moving to more sustainable energy,
different forms of energy, and you know, it is a
real threat for corporations and individuals who make their money
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off of the the older energy gathering techniques, right, I
mean that that we know that's a real threat to
some people, but we also know that is a potential
planet saving thing potentially if you believe it and I
and I believe it. Yeah, I mean what good? What
good is it? What? One way to look at this
(24:53):
is to ask yourself. Honestly, you have to ask ourselves,
what good is it to have a very successful operation
when there's not a planet for it to operate on,
you know, And that sounds hyperbolic, but it's it's unfortunately,
it's in the cards of a very large and terrifying
deck called the future. We have to we have to
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point out, you know, first off, neither the domestic political
left or the domestic political right are a percent on
board with the stated aims of Davos. And often you'll
see various groups say that these aims or these goals
do not feel sincere. The domestic right will sometimes argue
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this is a cover for the imposition of communism and
the dismantling of what they see as traditional society, and
the domestic left is pretty skeptical that these global emperors
of capitalism are either going to be a truly capable
or be truly willing to address problems that they have
to a great degree or to some degree created, especially
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when they continue to benefit to one degree or another
from that system. Why why would I logically destroy or
endanger the thing that continues to ensure my financial existence? Right,
It's it's a good question. But then there's secondly, there's
that perspective. We keep going back to it. Who is
(26:21):
Davos really helping? Beyond the theory? In practice, is this
helping is it helping the environment? Is it helping the
crushing massive people struggling amid poverty, or is it, as
some critics allege, more a matter of helping the world's
wealthy feel a little bit better about all the power
(26:43):
that they possess. And this is this is something that
I didn't really think about, but it does bear exploration.
I think it does, and it's something we have to
take into account because we talked about motivation on this
show all the time, and you you wonder what each
individual what motivates each individual person, right, And when you
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look at some of the criticism that's coming that continues
to come out, and then you you start to get
a picture of at least how some people are thinking
about it. And let's let's jump to Forbes, a man
named John Malden over there, who has a summation of
this big problem. He calls Davos quote another example of
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wealthy power elites saving their consciences with faux efforts to
help them masses and in the process make themselves even
wealthier and more powerful. Yikes, man, that's I would say,
that's a very to look at it. But is this
cynical though, or is it like realistic? You know, I mean,
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I don't know. Maybe those things can be can work
hand in hand. But like I saw a thing pop
up on a Facebook story the other day or Instagram
story rather the other day. Where are we just talking about,
like the poverty industry with things like check cashing companies,
overdraft fees, um, you know, payday loans or whatever. You
know what I mean, Um, like all of this stuff.
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These are billion dollar industries. And not to say that
any of this is discussed at Davus, I mean, because
it's all kind of behind this. You know, we could
call it a guy's I guess of like making everyone's
lives better. But the question is like who is everyone
and are these just kind of like virtue signaling attempts
to like, you know, help third world countries and and
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help like the quote unquote like global uh poor rather
than like, you know, the poor right here in our
country that that that are largely suffering under this kind
of system of economic oppression. Uh. In my opinion, it's
expensive to be poor, and I wish more people would
talk about that more often, you know what I mean?
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The associated cost of living towards the bottom of any
socioeconomic system can be tremendous, slee difficult. It's it is
in a very real way, uh, kind of plain life
on hard mode in many aspects. And it is a
good question who is everyone, right, who counts as a
person here and to what degree? Before we continue with this,
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I do want to say it is important everyone to
know that when you're talking about an organization of this size,
you are very rarely going to be talking about a
uniform massive opinions. The Davos and the World Economic Forum
are rife with people who are sincerely making their best,
good faith efforts to improve the world while we still
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have something around to improve. But maybe not everybody and
and maybe maybe even those good faith efforts are at
times misplaced. That's what a lot of the journalists criticizing this,
and a lot of the the experts and the researchers
criticizing this are saying, I was surprised that Forbes was
done on them so hard. You haven't seen the rest
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of it yet, folks, But well we'll get there, um
to put it in perspective. So, there are a lot
of talks, right, but there are also a lot of
attractions and a lot of afterparties. One of the most
popular attractions in Davos is a re enactment of uh
where where you experience to a degree, the life of
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a refugee on the run. Attendees crawl on their hands
and knees pretending to escape gunfire. It is a year
over year one of the most popular attractions. I totally
see that, and that sounds, I don't know, maybe an
effort to change your perspective a little bit, but it
does sound performative. I guess what, I what I'm feeling
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right now and thinking about all of this stuff, and
then hearing the criticism of it, and and then even
examining my own inner criticisms of it and my skepticism
that there's anything actually good being done here. I've got
this competing thing where even even going to Davos in
an attempt to discuss some of these big problems and
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seek solutions, even if it is super flawed, feels like
that that individual person is doing way more than I
personally to push forward humanity to the future, right or
in an attempt. So I'm I'm just having problems. I'm
having a problem like viewing it as this big negative thing.
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But I agree with a lot of the criticism put
forward too, So I think there's just a there's a
push pull that I'm experiencing right here, And I wonder
if anybody else listening to is having that right, Like,
is it? Um? I think we're there with you? Is
it in absolute terms? Right? In total terms? Than these
individuals can do much much more than the average person
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right through any number of avenues. But also the question
is that I'd like everybody to ask ask ourselves, is um,
what do you have in common with the people at Davos,
Because you know, not all countries have equal quality of life,
So there are some countries where, uh, someone would be
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considered very poor in comparison to their neighbors. Is living
in amazing life or what people in other countries or
other parts of the world would consider an amazing life,
you know. Um, so it's a question we have to
turn on ourselves to like what what have I done?
What am I doing? What will I do? And I
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think it's I think it's an appropriate and since youre
question to ask and for the for the work that's
being done at Davos, you know, I think there's a
lot of it that's worthy of applause. But this is
about the dark side and the problems. So the third
point of criticism here, I want to go back to
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that phrase mentioned earlier, stakeholder capitalism. Well, that's so good,
right with stakeholders? Were all stakeholders. Now you're a CEO,
I am a farmer, and here's the person that repairs
the tractor, and here's the person that takes out the
garbage on Tuesday. All of us are equal in that
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we are stakeholders in this new form of capitalism. It's
a slick phrase, but dangerously vague, Yeah, because I mean
there's no parody right between these different stakeholders at all.
I mean they are the stakeholders at the top, who
you know, you could probably change a few letters and
call them stockholders. Uh. And then you've got like your
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you know, lower lower tier workers who absolutely keep the
trains running on time and keep the manufacturing process running
correctly or whatever. Um. But they they they're not on
an equal footing as the folks at the top, no way.
So you're right. It's sort of like a feel good
y kind of of of of way of referring to
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these things that implies we're all in this together, except
you know, not not really. My assistant told me not
everybody goes to college. Think about that, folks, think about it.
All right, guys. I love what we're doing here. I
learned a lot better when we're working in analogies. Is
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there any chance we could jump back to Chipotle? Been sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's go. Let's go. What do you got? What's on
the menu? I don't know. I'm going to you man
about I just know those chips are on point. They're salty, though, man,
they're a little too salty. Well, can we do a
case adilla analogy this time? It's not there like go
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to menu item, but they'll do one for you. They'll
do it. Yeah, you just have to exercise. You just
have to have good charisma stats after it's off menu,
so you know, you gotta roll at least a six
to get it, to get them to make you a
case of um. Yeah, case Ada by far one of
my favorite foods unrecognized. God, I'm gonna make one right
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after this. Okay. So if we're going back with Archipotle analogy,
then we would say to Schwab, to Professor Schwab, if
he is ordering a burrito or sorry at case Ada,
if he's ordering in case Adia and that case Adia
is stock whole stakeholder capitalism, then he's not really being
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helpful to the people who are supposed to, you know,
create this case Ada because they say, okay, you know
they got the tortilla right of globalism, and then they say, well,
what is stakeholder capitalism? What goes in this case idia, professor,
and then the professor steak Well, the professor goes, uh,
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you know what really goes into this case a dia
is the idea of responsibility and accountability. And they're like,
we don't have that kind of cheese. Are you talking
about corporate personhood? Right? That's right as as this be
a weird off menu item. There's a guy name Ben
six Smith, which has a great name for ning fans
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of Cloud Atlas especially. He argues that this is not
a bug, that this is a feature. It is vague
by design because then it allows these gigantic companies to
kind of interpret what stakeholder capitalism is as they wish.
And this leads us to ask ourselves, you know, is
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this really a new innovative attempt at something different this
case idea, or is it really just kind of a
burrito that we rolled differently to look like it was
a new menu item when it's the same stuff with
the same ingredients. You just flattened it. You just flattened it,
just flattened it to make it look different at the time.
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So there's uh. There's an author named Naomi Klein who
is writing for The Intercept, and she claims the Great
Reset is just this. She calls it a COVID brain
ended reiteration of all this stuff Davos already does. She says,
quote in short, the Great Reset encompasses some good stuff
that won't happen and some bad stuff that certainly will,
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and frankly, nothing out of the ordinary in our era
of green billionaires readying rockets from ours. Oh man, she continues, Yeah,
but so basically all the bad stuff is gonna happen anyway.
These are these are lovely ideas. They're never gonna happen.
And everybody else, everybody that can is getting the hell
out of here. Yeah. She She goes further too, because
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she says furthermore, the w e F has historically been
against a lot of the solutions or a lot of
the things rather that could have the potential to address
or solve the issues, it claims the champion. It's like, well,
why aren't they bigger fans of more robust regulation or
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protection for local industries, progressive taxi shan and and I
think she prefaces this with like and god forbid nationalization,
which is, you know, a hugely hot topic in oil
wars of years gone by. Um, and she calls it
something she coined to freeze that I think we'll all enjoy,
(38:17):
called shock doctrine. Yeah. You know, I'm always a fan
of smashing things together at the one. Let's go shock
trine too obvious. I like shock doctrine. It's fun to say,
which is an attempt by the elite to leverage things
like COVID nineteen or you know, catastrophic weather, um, infrastructure
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collapse and all that as a way of kind of
ramming through these policies that quote further enrich the already
wealthy and restrict democratic liberties. That's that's that's according to Kliin,
reminds me a bit of the Patriot Act. Guys. Yeah,
and she goes on to point out Ben, what I
believe is your very favorite headline of this entire article,
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because probably because it's food based. But she u titled
her article the Great Reset Conspiracy Smoothie UM to to
keep in line with all of these food metaphors. Yeah,
she went with she with smoothies, we went with uh,
we went Chipotle. You know. But I respect the craft,
I respect the work for sure. Um. And And whether
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or not you know you personally are a fan of
capitalism rit large, you know, capital c capitalism, or whether
you are of the achalon of society that would attend
Davos um, it's pretty clear that the idea of philanthropy,
and we've talked about this in the past. There's an
episode in particular things called the Dark Side of philanthropy
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or something along those lines. It, Yeah, can have just
that a dark side. Um, and Ben, you came up
with a great term for this. We've already talked about greenwashing.
Uh so what what would what would be a term
to describe the kind of optics of benevolence? Uh that
that that all of this stuff kind of has. Oh boy, okay,
(40:03):
still workshopping this one. So everybody go easy. I mean
good washing, good washing? What is what is good washing? Uh?
Maybe the mic drop moment comes from Steve Dunning also
at Forbes. I'm still kind of surprised they wrote about
Davos this way. Dunning says firms can go on privately
shoveling money to their shareholders and executives while maintaining a
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public front of exquisite social sensitivity and exemplary altruism. And
then six Smith comes in, you know, like dropping a
cameo in the verse there and says Amazon can proclaim
that black lives matter, for example, while it's employees pissing
bottles for fear of being fired for taking toilet breaks.
That's the mic drop moment, right right right? But it's
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it's good washing, isn't it. Look what we are doing
for society, just not for our employees. Um I speaking
speaking of Pitts Brakes. Guys, I'm gonna need to do
that really quickly. But we will be right back with
a word from our sponsor and we're back. So this
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is maybe what this is maybe the most important part.
How much sand do these conspiracies and these criticisms actually hold.
I think we can all agree that if this is
a vast communist conspiracy to turn all the governments of
the world democratic authoritarian, what have you into one big
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communist government or socialist at the very least right or
socialist at very least Yeah, good point. There're two different things,
but you know, trending in the same direction. Uh well,
if that were the case, the only thing we can
say for sure is this would be one hell of
a plot twist for Professor Schwab and pretty much all
the companies that are participating in Davos. I mean, think
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about like Apple, Feiser, lockeed. Are they are they really
known for their radical left wing ideologies? Is it like
Fiser uh down down with the neoliberals or something. I
don't really think so, not so much. They're still getting
paid for vaccines. Remember they're making money. That's a good
point then, And it's the pandemic that really kind of
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brings all of this into focus because every single country,
every one of these companies is in a pretty difficult
position in that if you move too far along in
a solution kind of in your own wheelhouse, um, you've
got no way of making these other organizations do the same,
meaning that there has to be some level of cooperation
(42:39):
for the system to hold for for everything to kind
of hold together. If you're out completely in left field
or right field, or whichever direction the field you find
yourself in, uh, you're not going to be successful. Then
if these big businesses were working in concert, right, Yeah, absolutely,
And think about it. You know, if you're a big
business and you are and you have competitors in the market,
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and you say I'm going to make these radical changes
on my home turf and nobody else does, then your
stuff might get more and more expensive, it might be
more and more difficult to run your day to day business.
You might end up being bankrupt because you were not
able to move as a as a unit with these larger,
larger industry players. I mean, it's a thing that we
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can't miss, you know, regardless of how you feel about
Davos or globalism, Professor Schwab, not for nothing. He's right.
Capitalism as it stands today has these massive, dangerous, possibly
fatal uh structural problems. And these problems really are too
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big to tackle through conventional means. The stuff that worked
in the past, it's probably not gonna work now. And
that brings us to a weird spot, right, because the
erosion of the short lived age of privacy is very real. Right.
We are in a surveillance state, and we have been
the long term prospects of life for this species spoiler
(44:04):
alert not looking particularly swell at the moment. And unfortunately,
we don't need some wild easily disproven story about Bill
Gates and COVID microchips to come to either of those conclusions.
They are inarguable and they are fact uh and and
stepping stepping down off the uh off what do you
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call it? Soapbox here? Um, I was wondering. People really
used to stand on soapboxes for sure, and even like
on film sets they use apple boxes, that's they still
they still call them that anyway, But they're basically just
like expensive, you know, hollow pieces of like wooden frame
to make shorter actors look taller. I just want to say, guys,
before we finish up here. You guys know this, and
(44:51):
I've mentioned this before in a couple of shows. I
personally lost my religious faith a long time ago. And
when I lost it, I put that I put that
faith that's that need to believe in something it was
still existed. I put it in groups of intelligent people
getting together and trying to solve problems. And that's really
(45:13):
where I put my faith. Like, Okay, if if this
isn't going to help me in my belief, my belief
now is this religion isn't gonna help me, at least
humanity is going to help me, and you know, all
of us get through these things. So this episode has
been really difficult personally for me to um square just
to square some of it because I agree with the
realities that we've outlined here, with the problems of criticisms.
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I agree with that stuff. It's just tough thinking that
our best option is so flawed. Secular humanism, that's what
I should call it. I just it's tough knowing that
the elite secular humanism movement is Yeah, but they're they're
called the elite because there's their small percentage, you know,
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of of humanity. And sure they have a lot of
control over the course of humanity, but they are not humanity.
And I would argue that in general, I've seen a
lot of outpouring of of of of wonderful qualities of humanity, um,
during this pandemic of like, you know, being there for
your fellow human and just kind of like having each
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other's backs and all of that stuff. And and now
I'm kumbayeing a little bit, but I have not lost
faith in humanity at large. But yeah, it's a bummer
when when so few, uh, very very very powerful stakeholders
kind of set the course you know for so many others.
It's all beautiful, Nolan, I I agree with you. It's
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just how do we solve the water crisis problem? Right? Well,
we can leave that, we can leave that conversation for
another day. But but but in the meantime, before we wrap,
I think we have a little bit of a special surprise,
don't we. Oh Hey, guys, Alex Jones speaking, Um, big
fan of the show, but fan, just why don't you
(47:03):
know that you guys are my favorite sorts of thake news.
I'm sorry about that. The snort of the big Railica
ship put in us there in a chest day what Anyways,
I just listened to your your your episode on the
Nestly Water conspiracy, and I, uh, you know my reason,
(47:26):
but a great idea to uh like you and your listeners.
You know, I'm great opportunity. It's just a great apportunity.
I'm proud to announce the Info Wars brand bottled water
is I know, I know, guys or something, thinking Alex,
how did you get past the globalists that the run
Nestly and get your own water bottle water line the
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bolus that they cast out me and by the globus.
I definitely don't mean to juicse just make that clear. Anyways. Anyways,
this this water, it's it's great. It's great. It's it's
it's totally gluten free. It's only got a little bit
of mercury in it. That it totally Like I said,
it's it's it's that's stuff. It's less mercury. Then that's
(48:12):
probably less mercury. Well, I mean it's it's probably got
less mercury than uh that's what Michigan. But you know
it's good for you to need both character anyways, anyways, UM,
I just want to listen to guys and on that. Um,
you can get a super good deal on Alex dash
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Jones dot bs. Um. Yeah, and uh I've also been
you are my spirit animal. I'm serious about that. You
are my spirit animal. Thank you. Well, well, well that
was something we made it. I mean, you're you're you're
(48:56):
fake Alex Jones a spirit animal. Then that's pretty Hey,
we we can't confer if that was fake Alex Jones
or the real Alex Jones would narrate himself doing a
giant rail of coke. I think he would just do
it and you know, decide for yourself. You're saying, you
guys heard that too. I thought that was just in
my head. Okay, all right, well I don't know something.
(49:17):
I didn't go to the website. Uh he did maybe
try to sell this spottled water. At the very least,
it's very good impression someone was channeling Alex Jones. Maybe
right absolutely, you know, yeah, somebody somebody printed out one
of those Alex Jones sigils. And now that he's now
that he's been pulled from all the you know, popular platforms.
(49:41):
I guess the only place you can really get him
is out in the ether, just being channeling him, you know,
just from the zeitgeist at large. Where is he on? Now?
It is he he's on like parlor or something that
gab gabs is where he? I don't I don't remember.
I have no idea of Maybe he's just lonely and
calling us. Uh. But if you want to take a
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