Die Glocke: The Legend of the Nazi Bell

Like most other militaries of the time, the Nazi army conducted extensive classified research into all aspects of warfare, from rocketry to drugs, tank improvements and so on. They also delved into more exotic realms, and their endeavors remain a subject of enduring fascination in the modern age. Perhaps the most famous of these legendary experiments is something known as Die Glocke, or the Nazi Bell. But what is it supposed to be, exactly? What does it do? And, if it is real, where did it end up?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn this stuff they don't want you to know. Hello,

(00:22):
welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my
name is nol Guten tag get it. Guys, they call
me Ben. You're you that makes this stuff they don't
want you to know. And today we're going to uh
not quite flip the script, but let's say tilted perpendicularly
a perpendicular level, uh, slightly to the right or left
or whatever, it doesn't matter. It's an audio show. We're

(00:45):
going to start with a listeners suggestion rather than end
with our typical shout out corner, which will probably still
do that too, because we all think it's a lot
of fun. We are pursuing a topic that people around
the world have asked us to cover for several years.
So we want to thank Aaron J. Carl l and

(01:07):
Avner b Uh. Those are from two thousand sixteen, two
thousand fifteen, and two thousand and fourteen, respectively. Yeah, and
we also have our Australian mate, Stefan, who wrote to
us about this. Was Steve Rkle's suave alter ego. Yes,
precisely from Australia. Well know, in fact did move to
Australia and became a fan of our show. It might

(01:29):
be a different stuff on, but you know, we'll have
to wait for him to write back to let us know. Yeah,
it's uh takes a long time to get a letter
from Melbourne. Yes, Brisbane, Melbourne. My father's name was Melbourne,
Mount Melvine, got it, got it? Anyone that knows the
pops and the subject of these emails fascinated us and

(01:54):
hopefully will fascinate or at least interest many of you
out there in podcast Intangible Audio Land. We were inspired
last week when we received the note from Stefan. Regardless
of whether or not as past intersect with family matters,
he raised a good point and he said, hey, what
about the Nazi bell. But then before we do that,

(02:17):
we have to mention vault number seven, right, Yeah, what's
vault number seven? You guys? Oh, Wiki leaks they're added again.
They've released a whole treasure trove of information on the
CIA and their hacking techniques. As rascals over at Wiki leaks.
Another one of the largest leaks in the history of
leaks and there's apparently another person that the media is

(02:41):
referring to as the next Snowden, an insider that had
all of these documents and leaked them all, and Snowden
has weighed in and believes these documents to be legitimate.
But guess what, that's not what we're talking about today.
That's just a mention of what's happening in the new news,
in the news. In the news, we just talked about

(03:04):
something that was in the news, and so you can
expect perhaps an episode from us more in depth exploration
of the recent CIA revelations. For now, let's go back
to those forties. Yeah, wait a minute, Wait a minute,
we're not talking about Nazis again, are we. You did

(03:24):
not see it coming, huh? All right, So Nazis are
a source of endless speculation in the world of alternative
history and fringe research. Right when the passed. We have
explored the Nazi search for Shankra Law, the weird beliefs
of Zanbev in the occult, and even the idea that
they searched for a subterranean civilization that was crazy. Oh yeah,

(03:47):
when they went to Antarctica and look look for maybe reptilians,
maybe not probably not right, or maybe some sort of
h hyperborean elder civilization that is inexplicably aryan. Uh. It
is a fact, by the way, that they did land
in a place and wanted to call it New schwab Ya. However,

(04:09):
the extent of any permanent settlement there, that's where you
get into the fringe stuff. The point is we have
all these different strange things about the Nazi Party and
the events leading up to and after World War two, uh,
and we've explored a lot of it in the past.
You can check it out shameless plug on our website

(04:29):
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on iTunes or wherever you get your podcast. There we go,
nailed it. That's the tag. However, you're listening to this,
if you are just meditating to some point where this
is going into your brain, then I guess wherever you
get your own's if you prefer your podcast and depository form,
we can help you with that. Nope, we actually can't. Sorry,

(04:50):
and it's kind of a d d I y thing.
We could, we could give you the recipe. We like,
morally support you, we will aid in a bet. So
today we're looking at one of the most popular legends
from the infamous Nazi regime. My theory is there, and
they had their fingers in so many different weird things
because they just didn't have any scruples. They were just like, hey,

(05:10):
we'll try it all whatever. And this time we're talking
about a weapon, a sort of secret technology that allegedly
not only surpassed all of the weaponry of the Allies
at the time, but likely remains unsurpassed this day. Um.
It's commonly referred to as di Gluca or the Nazi

(05:31):
bell Um. To the Germans, it was called simply the Vundavafa.
Now there are three people out there going. But you guys,
you talked about Nazi weapons at some point. Ah ha ha.
We talked about the Horton h O and a bunch
of their rocket weaponry and some of the weird weapons

(05:51):
the very first podcast. Huh, yes, that is correct, one
of them. But we never got into in depth about
this wounder war, this very special one. You may be
aware of that Oasis song Wonder wafa um, but this
is not that wonder and after awful you're a fund
of Yeah, the this strange thing about these funder is

(06:16):
all right, what does that mean for the non German speakers, Uh,
it is a wonder weapon. It's something that would have
had the potential to shift the course of conflict in
this serious and possibly final way. And it's nuclear weapons. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that would qualify. And it's important to understand that a
lot of these super weapons were real, genuine things. And

(06:39):
it's also important to note we found this kind of
funny in the research that in German sometimes calling something
a vonder vaffa is like a solution to all sorts
of problems, an illusory panasia, whoa, this will fix a
final solution ouch. I mean I was thinking more along

(07:00):
the lines of snake oil. Okay, okay, I say, someone's
a snake oil salesman. And it turns out that we
know a whole lot about these programs because as the
war drew to a close, the Allied forces overran Germany
and captured not only all of their as much of
their technology as possible in the forms of operational and
prototype designs, but also a lot of documentation pertaining to

(07:24):
those experiments and plans, unless we forget stealing or taking
the scientists. Yes, an operation paper clip where you know
easily plus scientists were taken by the US government, given
new identities, and it started NASA, Yeah, and started NASA.

(07:44):
So really the the as we talked about in previous episodes,
in some ways, uh, the the Nazi technology powered the
space race. Well, actually, in pretty much conclusive ways, Nazi
technology power this space race or experimentation there. And the
closest things to Nazi UFOs that have been proven to

(08:08):
exist are pretty much US space shuttles or satellites, you know,
And that's that's terrifying, but you know that's part of
the way that technological progress works. Technology the best rises
to the top, and then the conquerors take that best part. Yeah,
and technology is a moral Technology does not favor one
side of an ideology or another. True even ever since

(08:31):
the days of fire and the wheel, wheels just roll
and fire just burns, man, yep. And if you find
a way to conquer those people that had the fire
in the wheels, well then guess what you've got? Fire
and wheels. Well, you got that Bob Dylan song, This
wheels on fire rolling down the road that is litterally
that is an image of destruction right there. You gotta

(08:52):
disembodied wheel, where's the car no one knows, and it's
on fire and it's rolling down the road on its own.
So there's like a time sensitive decision to figure that out.
You know what. I think this was a very good
analysis about dylan lyrics. No just imagining, Uh, I'm imagining
seeing that image when you're unaware of what either a

(09:13):
wheel or fire are as inventions. Oh yeah, that would
be an incredible I think that must be what Dylan
had in mind, because those are the two biggest creations
of man. We bind in a very stark visual in
the Old Testament, some of the descriptions of divine visitations
are like wheels of fire. So right, is that where

(09:35):
you're going with it? And it ties into the idea
of the mythology behind you know, the cultural filters we
used to explain things we don't understand, which happens today.
There are some things that we don't understand about aside
from the horrific actions of the National Socialist Party. Um,

(09:57):
there's some things that are going to remain mysterious forever.
Because when it was clear what, uh, it was clear
what the outcome of the war would largely be a
lot of a lot of documents and paperwork were destroyed
by Nazis because they knew that the capture capture was
becoming imminent. It was the fall of the party. But

(10:18):
like the cyanide pills for the documents and for the
other stuff. Yeah, like this primarily this stuff that they
burned primarily regarded activities that we're going to be prosecuted
as war crimes, like human experimentation. It's not a war
crime to try to build a better tank, no, but
it's a war crime to try to kill a huge

(10:43):
population of people or to experiment on them or to
experim in certain ways that causes harm just outright. So
we do know, we do have some examples of these
different wonder weapons, pretty impressive stuff. There were aircraft carriers, sweet,
you know, the Germany was working on some an aircraft
carriers like the graph Zeppelin. Weighed over thirty three thousand tons. Uh. Yeah,

(11:10):
it's able to carry forty two aircraft and it was
you know, it was scrapped. Uh. As we go through
these wonder weapons, keep a list and see if you
can identify some common themes here. Uh. Then there was
a German aircraft carrier one in would have been faster,
larger than almost any of the other ships. This was

(11:30):
actually conversion. It was an existing watercraft, but they scrapped
that again due to design issues. Turns out building aircraft
carriers is tough, yeah, and that's why when they did
actually come along and we're utilized effectively, they ruled the
seas right and U currently still do until the rise

(11:54):
of asymmetrical warfare. China is doing some of probably the
most impressive search on that as we speak. And then
they attempted to build battleships that would be super weapons
and perhaps when the most famous of the VANDERWAFA is
the V program, the rockets. Yeah. This program consisted of
a particular group of long range artillery weapons that were

(12:18):
designed for strategic bombing during w W two, um particularly
terror bombing or aerial raids, like the kinds of images
you get of an air raid, siren planes coming in
in London and just bombs falling everywhere, and it's literally
designed to keep the population terrified and cowering. There are

(12:40):
a lot of versions of the V as well that
you can find. I would say, just go to Wikipedia
if you want to, because you can click through and
see all the different images of them, and you'll eventually
get to or you'll probably start at the V two rocket.
That's the most well known. Ye, it's the breakout single exactly,
but it went through all kinds of different like attempts
because you're literally trying to build a thing that can

(13:03):
use fire to propel itself across you know, a thousand,
hundreds at least of miles, sometimes thousands of miles and
uh explode on something with accuracy, the precursor to I
C B M S. Right. So, yeah, the the V
one was just called a flying bomb, and the V
two is the one that really, as as Null mentioned,

(13:26):
really brought the terror to London into other areas of conflict.
But that wasn't just it. This was a land air
and see thing can't forget the submarines. You both tell
me about those, man, I remember hearing about them in school.
How they were just so versatile and nimble, um and
and incredibly important strategically for the Gens. U boats were

(13:46):
incredibly nailed that. U boats were a crucial piece of
the of the German offensive and of the defensive lines
because they could if everything worked out as it was
supposed to write in theory, they could neutralize the threat

(14:07):
or do what's called um area denial for boats that
would travel above water. Of course, armored vehicles, gigantic tanks,
huge tanks. We're talking tanks with crews of forty people
in one tank. That's too many. Railway gun Yeah, yes,
I think it. I think it is too It's just

(14:28):
like the panzers. Yeah, yep, zoop panzers. Some of those
really big ones never made it to a construction phase.
They were just prototypes or they were scrapped later. Because
the entire time that the party is or the scientists
are working on these astonishing breakthroughs in technology, the clock

(14:50):
is ticking and the tide is turning against them. So
they're spontaneously becoming more and more of a panic mode
because the man management. I'm sure anyone who has a
job is familiar with management coming down hard on you. Uh.
Management is telling them, you know, how long do you
think this will take? Somebody says, I guess in the

(15:11):
German acts in ten years, and they are cool, You've
got three weeks. Okay, what are you gonna do? And
at that point though, it all becomes just a fool's
Errand you know, even sometimes when you get managers like that,
that are going into panic mode. They know damn well,
these are not realistic goals, but they're gonna try to
terrify their underling to the point where they give them
something right exactly. I just want to get to one

(15:34):
of these monster huge tanks because it's awesome. Can I
say real quick, I've got to say this word. I
love these amazing German compound words, the Panzer tanks. The
full Longhand version of that word is Panza comp wagon,
which means armored combat vehicle. I just I'm a huge
fan of these amazing compound upon compound German words. Camp

(15:57):
Wagan sounds like a station wag and you would get
from Volkswagen, it does. And you know what you can
also get from there, a land cruiser. It's that's another one.
It's a there's one called the land cruiser. Peeved monster.
It's it's just a prototype, like an idea. Essentially. I
don't think anything ever really got created. But it would

(16:21):
have been so massive that it would have used these
eight hundred um eight hundred millimeter shells. And if you
look at one of these shells and you look at
a human man who is probably five ten eleven standing
there it's at least two or three. It's too like
two point two of that person. Uh. When you look

(16:43):
at its height, it's a massive shell that would have
caused crazy havoc if you ever were to fire this thing,
if it were ever built, right, And it sounds like
just from an engineering perspective, launching a projectile like that
with such force would probably have a significant amount of
damage on the frame of the vehicle, right yeah, and

(17:03):
probably catastrophic effects to the surroundings of where the vehicle
is placed. Well, don't put it in a good neighborhood.
But but if you can imagine this type of weapon,
you can really see a picture of I guess what
the leadership wanted to have these massive super weapons placed
all over countries where, you know, on I can imagine

(17:27):
them protecting ships or something just sitting on the edge
of some giant cliff. Um. It's pretty terrifying of an
alternate future where that happened. Right. Well, you know, people
could argue that the world has more or less been
in a continual state of war just in regions, right,

(17:51):
and war between countries. Those things are still out there,
maybe not on that scale, but they're happening, right, and
some of it. Some of the things that are just
as dangerous in their own way are global information collecting nets.
People didn't stop tinkering, you know, we brought up Operation
paper Clip before. One thing that's amazing, though, is I

(18:15):
think a lot of a lot of people, at least
in the West, don't realize just how influential uh Nazi
era science was, or access science. If we count Unit
thirty one from Japan, in medicine, in rocketry, in uh
U boat design, you know, submarine design, they really did

(18:38):
change the world. They built the first fixed wing plane.
I'm not trying to downplay the intelligence of the German
people and the ingenuity, because we do know they have
great technology. But I really do stand by, especially medically,
some of those advances came from having no scruples, willing
to do whatever it took. The vast majority of them.
I completely agree. And and it's you know, there's this

(19:01):
question that we have asked ourselves before, you know, with
like what would you do if you are what would
you do if you're a military official. Let's say you're
the surgeon general. For some reason, it's very dark time
to be surgeon general. And you say, uh, you know
we you say, well, we have all these we have
all these files. This is the best, most thorough and

(19:23):
current research of what happens to people at high atmospheric pressure,
because they took civilians and put them in there and
repeated the experiment until they, like as the people exploded.
Do we is it exploiting that UM, that horrific occurrence,

(19:43):
that horror movie level stuff to use it or is
it in some ways trying to make some sort of
good out of the situation, you know, And honestly, whatever,
ladies and gentlemen, whatever your call would have been at
that time, the fact of the matter is at not
just the US, but also Russia also the other ally

(20:05):
powers took the research and used it. You know, UM
had tremendous influence on the Air Force. But you're you're
absolutely right, like, what what is what is the ethical
line when you're trying to behave ethically? But the best
information you will ever run into in your career comes

(20:28):
from people who are ethically speaking, like not people sub human,
completely monstrous or thought that were better than human. But
we run into that. It pops up pretty I kind
of say, you take that, you take it, you run
with it. You make it, you make it right, you
make it good. You honor the memory of those people
that suffered in order to achieve these innovations by making

(20:51):
it better and using it to ensure the stuff like
that never happens again. That's just me. I absolutely agree.
And I think if we had Matt and I had
discussed this before and came to the same conclusion. I mean,
you can't bring those people back, but you can save
other people. You also can't unknow that science. Well yeah,
and it feels like, yeah, that's so, that's so true.

(21:12):
It feels like if you put lock it away in
a grimoire somewhere, all that information, or you burn it
and it is never to be found again, someone else
is going to come along, maybe someone bad, and perform
the same experimentation to find out the same answers that
were gained there. God, that's so messed up. History is
a messed up place, and we are going through his point.

(21:34):
So the Nazis also had gliders, Yes, yeah, that in
addition to atrocities, right, uh, first fixed wing gliders, Matt,
you mentioned the Horton ho This was something that would
have absolutely looked like some kind of delta wing UFO

(21:54):
if you had seen it flying. Consequently, it was the
inspiration for the doctor's Who's book Horton Here's an ah, yes, yeah,
which has been ms. Uh. You know, a lot of
people got that one wrong. That would have been a
much scary book, wouldn't Yeah, I would, Yeah, I read it.
I would read it. Uh. Yeah, So we know that

(22:15):
there were there were these advances, these tremendous advances or
attempts with aircraft and gliders as well, including stuff that
would be in very very high orbit. But one of
the craziest ones, while we're going through this, uh, this
hall of fame and infamy, one of the craziest ones

(22:37):
was the idea of something called a sun gun. I
know where a family show, so I shoot you Not
this was a real thing. A group of German scientists
that the German Army Artillery proving grounds at Hiller Slapin
began conceiving a super weapon that could use the Sun's energy,
that could weaponize solar energy, which is of course, uh

(23:01):
for fans of Planet Earth or Life or those documentaries,
of course, it is the engine that powers pretty much
every living thing or every every reaction on the planet,
except for that one naturally occurring uh nuclear power plants. Right.
So this sun gun, the idea is that would be

(23:24):
part of a space station that's like five thousand miles
above Earth. And the scientists thought that if they got
a huge reflector, made a metallic sodium that was three
and a half square miles wide, they could produce enough
focused heat to how how James bond villain is to
boil an ocean to burn a city? Just what concentrated

(23:46):
sun power melt to face? Oh? Every face, every face.
I've seen a million faces and I melted them all
with my sun gun? Is that it's any reference? It's
a Bonov reference? Are the references today? You're just ruling
Jovi with the sun gun? I think the point that's what. Yeah,

(24:06):
that's like a lot of people don't know that. But
bon Jovi did come out of the sun gun research,
you know. And it's one of those ethical decisions where
the U. S. Government said, it's like, do we deprive
the population at large from this rock or you know,
what do we do? So many innocent people died to

(24:27):
uh to you know, produce this uh, this album Powerhouse
of Rock. So um, I'm going back and I'm wondering
did everybody have the same revelation of the power you
can wield in your hand with a magnifying glass when
the sun is out? Like, did you guys discover that?
Where you told that? Because this whoever you know the

(24:50):
scientists are, they thought about that, and then they imagined, well,
what if God had a magnifying glass and we were God?
Such a German question, right, I don't. I don't know.
That's so messed up, just imagining that I can kill
these ants with my magnifying glass, or I can light

(25:10):
this leaf on fire with my magnifying glass. Well what
if we did it to the pole planet? Yeah, big
old magnifying glass, Yeah, I would. Um always thought that
the only ethical human experimentation is self experimentation. I've had
ups and downs in that regard, but I did the
thing on myself. Yeah, just see how long it would take? Whoa, Yeah,

(25:34):
did you get a scar? Um? I got some, I
got some smoke. I felt really cool. It was worth it, delicious.
I don't know why that I keep thinking of this,
Probably because I watched it last night. Honey, I shrunk
the kids. That feels like a Nazi weapon. Wait, wait,
the movie. Yes, the movie The Shrinking Gun. Even the
look of it. It's got this like kind of cyberpunk

(25:54):
letting out cyberpunk like steampunk kind of weird, like the
coils and exposed metal. It se is like something the
Nazis would have been hipped too. You know. Yeah, that
is a great movie, all of the iterations of it.
I've I think I enjoyed all of them. Yeah. Wait,
there's more than two, aren't there. Honey, I shrunk ourselves? Honey,
we shrunk the Kids? Kids was first? Shrunk? No particularselves?

(26:20):
Was third? I guess I remember the second one was Honey,
I blew up the Baby. There at least every one
wasn't straight to video Honey, we shrunk the budget. Honey,
I don't remember my childhood. Um So, out of all
of these proven uh proven weapons and pieces of technology

(26:42):
like the hordn hure oh or the V two Rockets,
or of the Propaganda trilogy, the Propaganda Dynasty known as Honey,
I Shrunk the Kids or prototype super weapons, UH one
in particular gets by far the most attention from fringe
theorists around the world, and we will dive into the
story behind that after award from our sponsors, and it

(27:13):
now begins the legend of the Nazi Bell. In two
thousand of Polish author named Igor Wittkowski published a book
called Prauda oh Wounder Waffle or the Truth about the
Wonder Weapon. And guess what, I didn't pronounce that correctly? U.
This is reprinted in German as die away at hobb,
not even going to try that it was reprinted in German.

(27:35):
So this is the first public printed mention of what
this guy calls the Nazi Bell. And here is what
he claims. While conducting some research, he happened upon these
transcripts from the interrogation of a Nazi s S officer
named Jacob Sporenberg. And inside this transcript he found the
first mention of this thing that was called the bell,

(27:56):
although it was in German and I can't do it correctly,
so dick luck. So he did all this during his
time as SS and police leader of Lublin in the
General Government of Occupied Poland in August of nineteen forty three.
Then he was captured after a relocation in Norway and
was extensively questioned um Sportinberg was extradited to Poland in

(28:19):
October of ninety six and then sentenced to death by
a Polish court in Warsaw in nineteen fifty Uh. The
sentence was carried out on December six of nineteen fifty two,
when he was executed by hanging. Um. Then, according to
what Kowski, he was shown these allegedly classified transcripts in
August of by an unnamed Polish intelligence contact who said

(28:44):
he had access to Polish government documents regarding Nazi secret weapons.
So what Kowski maintains that he was only allowed to
transcribe the document and was not actually allowed to make
any copies of no photos, no primary source documentation. Uh.
And the legend was popularized by an author named Nick Cook,
who used Witkowski stories in his own book on zero

(29:06):
point Energy. So there's a lot to unpack here, right, Uh.
This guy was allegedly shown these documents, shown these transcripts,
and it seems like that might be a big red
light that's flashing and tells you, Okay, he's shown these things,
but he can't document them whatsoever. Um. Okay. It makes

(29:30):
you wonder about the intentions, if it's true, the intentions
of the person that showed it to him, And you know,
it also makes you wonder is this real? Right? So, yeah,
there's a there's a weak spot in the argument there.
The first mention of this bell, whatever it might be, uh,

(29:51):
doesn't doesn't arrive until decades after the war. Yeah, right, right,
So when when would this Well, even if we just
say that the author says it happened in he was
shown these things. The book comes out in two thousands,
so it depends on, you know, how much of this

(30:13):
person's word we want to take for sacrosanct fact. We
do know that there were Nazi secret weapons because Allied
powers found a lot of them. We do know that
in some classified situations are dealing with compartmented compartmentalized information
as they will call it in the US, that there

(30:35):
are you know, situations where people are not allowed to
take photographic evidence or two be provided copies. I mean,
this is a country where the Supreme Court, which has
immense power, he doesn't ever doesn't get filmed. You know,
there are no cameras in the courtroom when the ring

(30:56):
raiths are in session. But there's nine of them or
you know there there will be there will be there
nine spots, so they're looking for the next ring bearer.
But but also An important detail here is that Spornberg
is dead. There's no record of him saying anything about

(31:16):
this any other time, and there's no way with current
technology that we can ask him. Uh So, what the
heck is this thing? It wasn't even around, and even
though it was in two thousand, wasn't really around in
English much until the author Nick Cook made a book

(31:38):
looking into people, inventors, entrepreneurs who felt like they had
discovered of various forms of alternate energy, right, zero point energy,
anti gravity, stuff like that, all that jazz, all that
smooth jazz, something that will change the game, right, So what?
What the heck? What in Sam Hill? What in Sweet

(31:59):
Sninky Pete? Is this Nazi bell thing? Allegedly it was
an experiment carried out by Third Reich scientists working for
the s S in a secret German facility known as
dar Ice or the Giant. Uh. It's in the Wenceslast
Mine and was close to the Czech border. Do you

(32:21):
think he's the same king like from the Christmas song
Good King Wenceslaus? Was that his his mind, his personal
mind the very same? Unless I mean, like, at least
at a more logically speaking who knew he was a
Nazi sympathizer. I feel like it's implied in the song.
I'm gonna have to revisit that text. I did say
that without having read the lyrics of I apologized to

(32:42):
the King, good King when Charles last looked down on
the Feast of Steve Um. I honestly have no idea
what you're talking about. It it's a mormonlay round about
deep and Chris und panzas, what what is this? It's
a Christmas song? Yeah? What Christmas is a holiday typically

(33:07):
celebrated at the end of the Gregorian year and invented
by the Nazis. Well, and that's a totally different thing.
To a side note, if we have time, I don't
want to take up too much time, but side note, Uh,
the Nazi Party did have a group of like an
ideological group that was trying to supplant Christian celebrations with

(33:31):
a more what they felt was traditionally Germanic based mythos
and celebration. Oh, we've got to look into that. I
think we did in the past, right do we talk
about that? And I get our videos in our audio
mixed up sometimes, so we'll have to look at it.
Point being, and you can find it. It's an amazing story.
But point being, um, yes, the this bell, what the

(33:55):
heck is it? What in good King Winceslaus is going
on here? Well, we have to look at a guy
called General Dr Hans Friedrick Carl Franz Kammler Kammler, who
oversaw the V two rocket programs. He was born in
nineteen o one. By the end of the Second World
War he was almost as powerful as SS Chief Heinrich

(34:17):
Himmler Uh and the Armaments Minister who is Albert Spear
had access to the nazis most advanced technology, including the
V one and V two rockets, And these things are
some of the only those rockets are some of the
only weapons that came out in enough time to actually
reign destruction. Right. The design didn't get rushed into a

(34:40):
point where it was non viable. But as a lot
of military historians tell you, it came down to, you know,
a matter of a couple of years or months if
if this technology, if more of this technology rolled out,
the war could have ended priently. This was the guy

(35:01):
in charge of a lot of that, this General Kambler. Yes, yes,
And in addition to designing and supervising secret weapons, because
he was also an engineer. He also approved and designed
crematoriums in Auschwitz, and he was associated with some of

(35:24):
the darkest, most disturbing things. So pretty broad skill set
of evil. Yeah, right is a utility evil player. But
his uh, but his the primary thing he was known
for at the time was supervising the secret weapon programs.
And this, this German facility, in this mind was a

(35:47):
real thing. Right. The bell, the bell? Right, the bell
is the question, the maddening tin tin abulation of hearsay
and rumor in the telephone game we call History. Here's
what Wokowski, as told by Cook, says. The bell appears
to be. Says, it's made out of a hard, heavy metal,

(36:08):
approximately nine ft wide twelve to fifteen ft high, and
it's similar in shape to that of a large church
bell or handbell. So you know, it's got a it's
got a bigger lip or rim at the bottom, and
then it tapers up to a to this rounded, rounded
top the nipple, which is the technical term. Uh, you know.

(36:33):
And there are various kinds of bells, so you know,
they're like Krillian bells, which are tubular. We won't we
don't want to mislead you think about the Liberty bell,
think about big old steel bell. Yeah, huge heavy contraptions.
So it looks like that. And according to Makowski or
Cook's account of interview in Wakowski, this device had two

(36:56):
counter rotating cylinders, so one would be or they both
be filled with a mercury like substance which was violet
in color. And it was code named ZIOM five to
five with that zerom with an X, and it was
stored in a small, thin uh flask that was about

(37:17):
a meter high and encased in lead. So they also
said that there were additional substances used in the experiments,
referred to as light metal, and they included things like
thorium and beryllium peroxides. That's a quote. Wow, so reactive
things than could perhaps being nuclear powered if you use

(37:41):
them in a certain way. Yes, yeah, exactly, so, Waikowski
says to Cook. He says this bell, when they activated it,
it also needed a tremendous amount of power. He says
that when they activated it had what he called an
effect zone that extended fred sixty ft um hm. And

(38:02):
that seems like an arbitrary measurement and feet, but that's
because you know this is this is in Europe and
in every other part of the world except for mean
mar and the US and I think Namibia. Everybody else
uses the metric system. So we set a hundred and
fifty two. So what would happen when this effect zone was,

(38:25):
you know, in full effect when it was charged up
cooking with zero five to five. Well, allegedly, if you're
an animal and you have cells of an animal, blood
of an animal, uh, it would form into crystals and
uh like blood would turn into gel and separate, while
plants would just turn into this greasy I guess a

(38:49):
grease like substance, something that just looks nasty, kind of
like control to um when they would eat the green
goo uh and they turned into plants and then they
would descend a great into a puddle of greenish snot goo.
That's pretty good. Yeah, or like when people would as
a control too, right yeah, yeah, I actually have it

(39:10):
on my computer now turned out. Yeah, it's kind of
like Indiana Jones when they look at the Ark of
the Covenant, right. Yeah. I think Troll two was probably
if we're aiming for accuracy and our own references, control
two is probably better because they do end up being
goo at the end of the troll process. Here's one

(39:30):
of the worst parts about testing a weapon like this,
when there's an effect zone and you have to manipulate
the stuff and turn it on and make adjustments. Well, sometimes,
and in this case, according to this gentleman, the scientists
become victims. There are five of the seven original scientists
allegedly died over the course of testing this thing. And

(39:53):
now we get to some of the architecture here. So
Wadkowski states that there are the ruins near the winces.
Last mind, there are ruins of a concrete framework and
there's one thing called the hinge. This looks like a
frame with hooks attached that make people think it was
the spot to test a UM, a vehicle of some

(40:16):
sort or some kind of engine, something that had propellant abilities.
And it's called the hinge because it's reminiscent, well very
slightly reminiscent to Stonehenge, because it is a constructed and
obviously constructed thing of stone um but they're standing rocks,
and it is right next to a former secret underground

(40:40):
research facility made by the Nazi parties, made by a
state actor at the time, which was also made using
slave labor. I feel like we have to point that out.
If you are in the vicinity and you would like
to check this out and maybe send your old pals
conspiracy stuff some photographic evidence while you, of course avoid

(41:04):
any possible field effects. You can find the You can
find the mine with the coordinates that I will read
to you now. It's uh fifty degrees ut seven forty
three north and sixteen degrees forty east. Dare you have it? So,

(41:31):
people who believe in this Nazi bell idea believe that
they see this structure as evidence that there was actual
experimentation with maybe some sort of anti gravity propulsion, maybe
some sort of other advanced application of physics that we
perhaps don't yet understand. The anti gravity thing is what

(41:53):
I've heard most, or the zero point energy idea that
this thing, once you turned it on, it started generating
its own power. It took a lot of energy to
turn it on. Right. Once it's on, it's like, hey,
we're gonna run forever. Yeah, it's very It's like Mick
Jagger and start me up. How However, for people who
think this is not true, that structure itself is just

(42:14):
another ruin and they say, well, if it looks like anything,
it looks like a cooling tower. Right. So the really
crazy part what what was it supposed to do? We've
mentioned it being like thought of as a weapon, We've
mentioned it being thought of as a vehicle, but what
what gives? What's the skinny? Can we Cliff hang here

(42:35):
for a second? Sponsor brig Well, as a lot of
these reports are, we are pretty much entering the realm
of wild speculation. Uh, if I didn't have a shoulder injury,
I would be gesticulating wildly. Um So everything after the

(42:58):
original claim by what cow Key itself is completely unsupported. Um.
It delves into pretty arbitrary or at least unproven territory.
But that has never stopped us on this show, so
let us sally forth. For example, in the book Hitler's
Suppressed and Still Secret Weapons, science and technology, author Henry

(43:18):
Stevens concludes that the violet mercury like substance described by
Witkowski could only be red mercury because normal mercury quote
has no fluid compounds according to conventional wisdom. So what
what is? What is red mercury? Ben? I'm so glad
you asked the stuff that's in the thermometers, right, Well,

(43:39):
that's what I thought about too initially. That's that that's
that's mercury. And the difference between those mercuries is the
mercury your thermometers is real. It's a it's a real
proven thing. Red mercury, at least at this point, is
a hoax substance. And you can tell in some ways
because the author Stevens, his source for this claim is,

(44:02):
of course, as n All said, conventional wisdom. Right, many,
many people have had worse things happen because of their
conventional wisdom. What's that old saying about common sense being
the rarest thing. Uh? There there was an interesting article
that talks a little bit about red mercury because for
a while there's a little bit of intrigue in here. Okay,

(44:27):
So for a while there there was this idea that
separatist groups or terrorist groups or militias around the world
would be able to get their hands on a substance
that they called red mercury, and I thought was very,
very dangerous. And it turned out that there's pretty convincing

(44:48):
evidence whomever was making this red mercury claim was a
state intelligence agency, a state actor, um possibly one of
Uncle Sam's boys who was was doing like a sting
operation on these people. So it had all these rumors

(45:09):
about it. It's putency, how dangerous and rare it was,
how it could create the equivalent of a nuclear bomb blast. Yeah,
because it's it's an explosive, right, and non non exploding explosive,
so one that's safe to handle, but then we'll explode
when I guess activated. And I love the idea of

(45:29):
a non exploding explosive. It just seems like a like
a gag gift. I can't call it the dudget. I
wanted an explosive that actually explodes. We got you. Well,
that's like that's like a that's like a terrorist break,
but in this case, it's it's almost the equivalent of
a nuclear explosion if you had enough of this stuff,

(45:50):
at least according to the legends, if we're real. But
it's almost like yellow Cake is something I remember hearing
about back in the day and not knowing at all
what it was and just having crazy ideas because I
hadn't done any research on what yellow cake was. Um,
I feel like you hear something like red mercury. I

(46:12):
don't know, maybe the same thing applies, you think, oh,
it must be real. Yeah. That's part of the clever
cleverness behind those kinds of manipulative things is you have
this idea of of two things that you you understand conceptually.
I know what mercury is, I'm aware of the color red,
and you put them together and then it seems somehow
still understandable because they're not contradictory. Right, So it's it's

(46:36):
an understandable but distressing thing at this point, if we're
being completely fair, at this point, there is no universally
accepted proof of something called red mercury. That is the
most fair we can be about it. But let us
not stop there, because Steven's further allegesce that there is

(46:56):
a concave mirror. Um Steven, Okay, here, here's how he
says it. He relays an anecdote from a guy who
when he was thirteen in nine in the nineteen sixties,
the scientists told him about a device that had a
concave mirror on the top of it, and the description

(47:20):
of it matched in the author's opinion, or maybe in
the person's interviewings opinion, it matched the description of the bell,
and that this concave mirror provided the ability to see
quote images from the past during its operation, and this
line of thought led other authors to claim the Bell
is some sort of time traveling technology or time viewing device,

(47:43):
kind of like the Palanteer and Lord of the Rings,
you know, the Deadly Crystal Ball. I'm getting images of Contact,
the movie Contact, where there's this device that spins really fast,
and then you can drop something through it, and it
can time travel through time, I guess, or in some
way I see, yeah, because they say only eight minutes past. Yeah.

(48:04):
Well yeah, so I'm imagining the bell being these two
spinning things and then maybe you can even drop something
through it, or maybe the person inside of it is
time traveling if you can climb in it. Well, I'm
immensely glad that you mentioned UFOs, matt because or aliens
or extra terrestrials, because if you happen to check out

(48:26):
things on the Discovery Network or History Channel there uh
infamous love to Hate It, Hate to Love It? Uh
program Ancient Aliens, You'll see that the Nazi Bell is
associated with UFOs in those things, and we'll we'll get
to that in just a second, and it all really
goes back to the idea of where this thing ended up. Right,

(48:50):
So we've got Kammeler disappears after the war. People say
he commits suicide and that's the official story. Well what
really happened as he disappeared and the world's going to
heck in a handbasket for Germany, so they have to
get rid of this technology, right And obviously no one
found a bell and went public with it. So according

(49:12):
to people who believe in its existence, this either ended
up in South America. And that's related to a lot
of other fringe theories, uh, and some fringe facts that
we are we are already aware of. You probably have
heard this a million times if you check out our
if you enjoy our show, And that is the idea
of Nazis escaping World War two through the Vatican at

(49:34):
times Vatican sponsored ratlines and living out and in in
some isolated cases, living their entire natural lives out um
punishment free in areas of South America. So people believe
that the bell was a real thing that hasn't been found.

(49:55):
I think that Kamler brought it with him or somehow
sent it to South America where it resides. Just imagine
folks in the jungle today, stay away from bells in
the woods, regardless of what size they are. Just in general,
if it's not your bell, don't touch it. Or it
ended up somewhere else. What if it ended up in Kentucky,

(50:16):
y'all ah, Yes, Kentucky. The logical the logical destination. There's
this thing that we may have touched on before year.
I know we've touched on it in our video series
the Kecksburg Incidents. This is a UFO and unidentified flying
object that came down in nineteen six on December nine.

(50:38):
It was originally thought to be a meteorite or called
a meteor right, that's what it was thought to be. Well,
current researchers just believed that this was a g E
Mark two that's General Electric reentry vehicle that was launched
by the Air Force as a spy satellite, which very

(50:58):
plausible in my union. Unfortunately, this one just fell out
of orbit and then landed in Kentucky, as it does. Yeah,
but originally, of course the Kentucky gets all the meteors
and fallen satellites. But there's a lot of hubble hubble balue, hubbalu.
I don't know how to say this a hubble joke.
There's a hullabaloo hubble blue, hubble blue, hubble balue, more

(51:21):
like hillbilly blue. But of course there was a lot
of hullabaloo at the time when this kick, when the
keck Sprig incident occurred, because this thing was was bright
and it appeared to enter the atmosphere and then crash somewhere,
and people are like, oh man, it's a UFO you
guys well, and technically it is, yeah, well, it was

(51:42):
a flying saucer that crashed Holmes right, the homes as
they called each other. But be that as it may.
Pun making prodigies though we may be, there is a
there is an unfunny and inescapable truth here, which is,
of course, the government most likely lied to these people.
The Caxberg incident is different because civilians got there first,

(52:06):
and we're able to look at this in detail. But
imagine if you're you're a state power, right, you have
to control what your enemies would see or what other
people would see. Right, So having a spy satellite fall
first off, very fortunate for it to fall in the

(52:27):
contiguous US. Uh. But you you have to get that
out because you don't want other people talking about something
that you know, your rivals in the U. S. S
R or what have you will immediately recognize when they
hear it described. So, as far as we know now,
it was probably the satellite that Matt described. But at

(52:49):
the time, you can't blame people for thinking this is
Tunguska event all over again, or this is a piece
of alien technology, because who at that time would have
seen a satellite up close. And by the way, guys,
we have an entire audio episode on the Kesburg incident.
If you're interested and you want to learn more about him.

(53:10):
We've described everything that happened more detail. Yeah, check it
out and go there now when you're done with this,
But be kind. Yes, it was an earlier so it
was awesome. This is an awesome This is an awesome thing.
This this idea that there could be technology that's beyond

(53:32):
what we even possessed today in And of course this
is just my opinion, and I don't know why you
guys feel about this, but I'm pretty convinced I have
certitude that the technology that militaries have is at the
minimum several years in vance of the civilian stuff. Just right,

(53:53):
I think it's compounded over time too. We never really
knew the top speed of the the yeah, right, until
until it was in museums. Yep, you know it was retired,
or about how it expanded its metal and stuff. It
was designed so it could expand because it got so
hot and went so fast. I just want a million

(54:14):
terabyte thumb drive. When can I have that? I guess
when you start working for DARPA. Man, it's a million terabytes.
That's that's a name for them, right, is that a
that's a lot hep heppa byte, a pepper bite. I
think they call it king size bagel bite. Someone right
to us conspiracy and how stuff works, and let us
know what a million terabyte drive would be. All right, man,

(54:35):
we'll get back on track. I apologize, No, I want
to know. Um. So we we have all these questions.
This this story leaves us with more questions. Some of
them are psychological, some of them are material, and some
of them are a little bit more philosophical. So it's
true that we will never have complete answers to many

(54:56):
questions surrounding World War two. If you believe that a
lot of people sappeared in the Vietnam War first you
are correct, but World War two had probably even more
people just wiped off the face, even more soldiers went missing. Right.
We know for example that uh, this the thing that
we all grew up being taught was Hitler's skull by

(55:18):
in possession of the Soviet Party. I believe was not
in fact his skull. No, it was a female. But
there was a jaw part of a job that was
found that was supposedly Hitler's that was identified by people
at the time, at least according to Skeptoid, which is
what I was reading. And this feeds into, you know,
this feeds into the propagation of theories of Hitler escaping

(55:42):
and living to be somewhere else, uh, living his natural
life out somewhere else, maybe South America. But if we
can't arrive immediately a good answers, we can ask increasingly
well informed questions. So the first question about this particular
device that sounds straight out of science fiction, right, uses
is either an ancient and ancient power source descended from

(56:04):
real in the flying machines right that appear in the
Bahagavad Gita and are rediscovered in in some sort of
occult field trip on the side of Nazi party um
or some space age thing that never been built on
Earth before. If either way, if it's so advanced, here's
question number one, why did the Access lose the war? Yeah,

(56:25):
if they had UFOs, if if there were underground bases,
if there was revolutionary technology, then why did they lose
the war? Well, first of all, it melted all the scientists,
so they couldn't finish the thing. Five out of seven
five well probably maybe the good ones. The last two
were like this, associate scientists, it was like this first day. Yeah,

(56:50):
that's I mean, yeah, that's that's I think that's an answer.
Assuming the s S officer really did mention some sort
of device like the bell in an interrogation, how much
could he have actually known or understood. Sure, he was
a notoriously bad person and an effective um effective at

(57:10):
what he did in the military, but nothing he did
had a technical or scientific role in his entire career.
So it's possibly that you could have seen something and
been mistaken. It's possible that he could have never mentioned it. Yep,
it's possible there could have been some miscommunication and then Kammeler,
the guys in charge of the two rockets. In this case,

(57:31):
we do have an answer. Officially committed suicide at the
end of the war, yet growing evidence indicates that the
US faked his death, gave him a brand new identity
in America, secretly using his knowledge of weaponry to advance
their own studies, which means that he was never prosecuted.
And this is never prosecuted in a country that will

(57:52):
lock people up for life for non violent drug offenses,
right in a country that has three strike offenses to
the point where you know, children can be locked up
for the better part of their natural life. So whatever
happened to that giant underground complex, well, it remains in
ruins today, unfinished, just kind of hanging out, sitting there.

(58:15):
And get this, it's only one of the just multiple
underground storage facilities that the Nazis built. At The thought
there's some magic alien crystals buried in that mess somewhere, well,
I okay, it's possible that there's undiscovered stuff like that
out there. It's possible, like tiny, itty, tiny bit possible.

(58:35):
But it's been a long time, right, it's been decades
of there are governments that would have an interest in
anything to any kind of technology or magic that may
exist out there, and you'd think that they would go
through it, but maybe not. And we do know that
camera was in charge of you know, eight or nine
of these things. They were dug out pretty extensively because

(58:57):
it was one of the only ways to protect uh secret,
this sort of secret experimental research from Allied bombers because well,
it's not like documents they could have shredded, you know,
like when the when when the jig was up and
the Nazis were being toppled and everyone was coming in,
ransacking their facilities, their bunkers, what have you. It would

(59:18):
be pretty difficult to cover their tracks on something this large. Yeah,
it's true, I mean, yeah, but it could be like
the tombs like King Tut's tombs are other tombs that
are yet to be discovered that just maybe we haven't
used the light ar technology on it yet in these areas,
you know, to find the secret bunker parts inside the

(59:40):
secret bunker you were all about that light are I mean,
it's one of the coolest technologies that exists right now,
I think. And so there we are concluding for now
our story of the Nazi Belt. We looked into this
extensively and without saying that it is is without saying

(01:00:01):
that it's like our purposeful hoax or anything. The best
we can say is that we found evidence of very
very strange things like these underground facilities, right, and we
know that we know that had the timing worked out differently,
the technological advances that that Germany was researching at the
time could well have changed the tide of war, including

(01:00:22):
their research into nuclear weapons uh nuclear warheads specifically, and
they were much closer than a lot of a lot
of people might imagine. But we couldn't find anything about
the Nazi Bell before the year two thousand. If you
want to be you know, if you if you want
to entirely accept the claims made in the book, we

(01:00:44):
would like to hear what you think about the Nazi Bell.
If you'd like to learn more about this from maybe
a more conspiratorial angle, check out The Brotherhood of the Bell,
check out the other two books we mentioned here, and
most importantly, if you have if you have some ideas
or some insight that we haven't heard yet, we'd love
to hear from you. And speaking of listeners, just like you,

(01:01:07):
it's time for shut up corners. Our first shout out
today comes from Alex h. Alex says, I'm listening to
your Grimoire episode now, and I thought I would send
you something of insider perspective. Something of an insider's perspective,
he says. Um. I had Narnia and Middle Earth as

(01:01:29):
my bedtime stories from a young age. Once I could read,
I devoured the mythology and folklore sections of my local library.
I was raised Catholic, but after my mother became very
ill in my teenage years, I had a crisis of
faith and began to doubt what I had been told.
When I got to college, I discovered weed, LSD and mushrooms.
As you do, you know, whatever whatever tickles your third

(01:01:54):
I um, and it really altered what I believed was possible.
I grant Morrison's comic book series The Invisibles, huge favorite
of the show around the same time, and was enthralled
by its wild, experimental, psycho sexual, spiritual, spy conspiracy story.
That is a mouthful. Um, try as I might, and

(01:02:14):
I really did. After that, I couldn't just put the
genie back in the bottle. So I tried Buddhism for
a while and yoga and the whole amelia that comes
with that, but it never completely squared with my worldview.
Western occultism is the only thing that has. Ultimately, what
it comes down to is the fact that belief is
a choice, a belief in, and the practice of magic

(01:02:35):
works for me. It is anecdotal, much of it is psychological,
and obviously it stands against the dominant paradigm of modern society.
But the simple fact is when I am practicing, I
feel happy and engaged with the world in a way
that I do not under normal circumstances. Severe depression has
been a condition of my existence for much of my life. Um,
and if the fix for that is something most people

(01:02:57):
would consider crazy, so be it. It's worth it to
live in an enchanted world. It's a beautiful sentiment. Um. Anyway,
those are my two cents. Love the podcast, you have
the great work. I couldn't agree more. Um. I'm not
a religious person myself. I begrudge no one that practices
religion if they do so respectfully of others, and it
is something that works for them and keeps them on

(01:03:18):
a path they find to be you know, successful, uh,
mentally and spiritually. It doesn't work for me, but I
see plenty of people in my life that use religion
as a tool to kind of guide their lives in
an ordered way, and this is no different in my opinion.
Thanks so much for writing in like h that is

(01:03:39):
a beautiful sentiment. I think we all agree here. Yeah,
and we definitely share your from childhood interest in the
uh Folklore and Mythology section at the library. So who's next?
Our next message comes from Kelsey says, Hey, guys, I'm
a new listener and I've been going back through the archive.

(01:04:00):
Have been catching up on old episodes. I got to
the cannibalism one and y'all said you were wondering what
your listeners were doing while they were listening about such
a dark subject. Well, I'm an electrical engineer student doing
research with semiconductors and I like listening to your podcasts
while I catalog samples, read papers, do homework, etcetera. Today,

(01:04:21):
while I was cataloging and listening, I got a surprise
phone interview for a full time position after I graduate.
Congratulations Kelsey, that is a huge accomplishment and such good news.
It went well. But it's hard to talk about green
technology when you just heard about someone's testicles being fed
to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sorry that apron it was

(01:04:47):
uh sorry, Kelsey, but you know we we are very
glad that you got that good news. Kelsey says, love
the podcast PS. I'll let you know if I get it. Well,
we certainly hope you do. I Kelsey, you, first off,
we're sending you good vibes, unanimously and immensely and profoundly

(01:05:07):
sending good vibes. I gotta say your your comments. Your
comment regarding testicles and cannibalism reminds me. I do a
live show on Facebook called snack Stuff where we try
strange and weird snacks from around the world. You could
check it out Tuesday's three pm Eastern Standard time every

(01:05:30):
couple of weeks. And we also have a food show
that's come out, which I can say is good because
I'm not part of it. It's called food Stuff. It's
about the science and culture of everything wonderful, weird, delicious,
and gusta tory. But neither of those shows have covered
cannibalism yet. Right give a time, they'll run into topics.

(01:05:51):
Have you eaten testicles yet? On Snacks Stuff? I have
not volunteers. Oh and point of order, lest we not forget,
the month of March is tripod month. That's with it.
Why try a pod cast? That's right, hashtag tripod, hashtag
that try it, then hashtag it used the hashtag tripod

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when you're tweeting out your favorite podcast recommendations for your friends,
whoever and so um today, I've got one. I'm a
big fan of the podcast How Did This Get Made?
With Paul Sheer and Jason Manzukas from the League and
also Paul's hilarious wife June Diane Riffael, where they basically

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just riff and rip on crappy movies. Yeah, they all
get together. They'll watch it separately or together and then
just talk about it and it is hilarious. They're part
of the ear Wolf group of podcasts and some of
my favorite if I ever go on a trip, I've
got that show in comedy Bang Bang and several others
of theirs just rocking in my car. I can't recommend

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it highly enough. Yeah, for sure, So get out there
and try a pod They did Hackers not long ago.
Hackers is the best. That's yeah, that's the one where
June doesn't understand what the Little BB eight Toys mission is.
She's like, what's its mission? And everyone just cracks up
because it's like, what's its mission? It's wonderful you never

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know what's gonna happen. In the meantime, this concludes our
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You can check out every episode that Noel, Matt and
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like the marine animal hubble hubble hubblu beluga. Now all right, well,
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