December 18, 2015 • 45 mins
What if the Revolutionary War didn't happen the way it's described in textbooks? Tune in and learn why some people believe the UK still controls the US in this special collaboration with our friends at AllTime Conspiracies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is
writtled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello,
welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my
name is Norman, and today my name happens to be Been.
(00:21):
But most importantly you're here, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you
for coming. Welcome to stuff they don't want you to know.
And boy, do we have a story for you today, Yes,
a story that spans the centuries, the seas or the
or the Ocean's full disclosure, everybody. We talked about this
off air for a secuit and uh oh, it was
(00:43):
on air. It was on air. It was it was
but we cut it right. Okay, great. Uh So, there
is a there is a small difference between ocean and
a sea. We found out who besides everybody but me,
besides I didn't know. It's very kind of you, Ben,
I'd ship. I really had no idea that the sea
is part of the ocean partially enclosed by land. Is
(01:05):
that like an it's like a ninthula? Yeah. Uh so
we wanted to put a little bit of geography into
the show today because our topic concerns geography, as you
will find out. And I don't know why I try
to tease this sometimes as though people are blindfolded and
(01:26):
just randomly smacking the keyboard and not reading the title.
I think that's a fun idea. Listening to podcasts with
absolutely no context of what it is. You just hit
play and you just go for it. It's like someone
making you a mixtape. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. But
before we go into it, I would like to ask
you ask for mixtapes. No, I'm kidding, don't really do it. Yeah,
(01:49):
if you guys want to send us mix tapes one
real quick. Yeah, my girlfriend and I recently exchanged presence
because she's going to London for the Christmas holidays. So
that's right. We'll double back around to that once we
get into the topic. But she got me a mixtape
on a thumb drive that came in this awesome little
cassette shaped box and the thumb drive fits inside and
(02:12):
it has a little flap that comes up just like
on a cassette, where she hand wrote all the names
of the songs on it, and it's like a whole thing.
So anybody out there looking for a clever late Christmas gift.
Go on Amazon and look for mixtape USB stick and
you know, and I thought it was really creative. That's
too involved. She must really like you. That's fantastic. And
I was impressed. I'm a little and it's and the
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mixtape happens to be fire, so oh yeah, it's all fire.
Is as good as CBS Bangers Volume three. No, well no,
I didn't know. Yes, that's different. It's on. That's a
horse of a different color. Yeah. Well, congratulations, I'd love
to Can we hear it sometime or is it like
a personal thing. I'll have to decide later. Okay, that
(02:56):
you know what. That's fair enough. That's fair. So today
we're going to do something a little bit different. We
have a short segment for you. Let's just call it
in the News, since we think of a more clever name.
And here is the intro for that segment. Okay, So
(03:18):
our question or a suggestion in the news recently came
from Twitter via a listener named super Chip, who asked
us if we were going to talk about these mysterious
ghost ship washing up on shore in Japan. And guys,
I've heard about this right Because of that, our Twitter
friend yeah, because of some people on Twitter. Well what
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it What turns out what happened is that for the
past two months, at least a dozen boats carrying the
remains of a little less than thirty people have been
found drifting off the coast of Japan. No idea who
these people were. For a long time, the news had
no idea why they were coming. But from what we
know so far, it appears that these um these are
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fishing vessels, and it appears that they're coming from North Korea.
So and they think that because weren't some of the
I guess the clothes on the bodies seem to be
from Korea featuring featuring the lapel badge of Kim Jong Il,
which most people outside of North Korea do or the
DPRK do not wear, so it appears that they're going
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that way. One of the big questions was whether these
whether these people were attempting to defect from the country.
But the problem is that the path they take doesn't
really makes sense because if you were going to defect,
According to John Nilson Wright, who is ahead of the
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Asia program at Chatham House, if you were going to defect,
you would head south to South Korea, rather than going
across to Japan. So the other theory right now is
that these ships were ill faded, ill fated fishermen who
were sent out to try to bolster dwindling food supplies. Yeah,
(05:08):
maybe go out a little further than they normally would
or something seems like, if you're going to defect two,
you might ditch your kim John il Pens. Well that's
true for me. It's kind of a cover right if
you're like, oh no, no, we're still all good everything. Yeah,
I don't know. That sounds a good point. So it's
strange because there have been a lot of wrecked boats
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drifting towards Japan every year. There were more than sixty
last year, and most of them were empty. The mystery continues.
Right now, there's pretty there's pretty good evidence, or that's
pretty solid speculation that there would be a bunch of
ill fated fishermen. But of course there might be something
more to the story. So stay tuned and if you
have a lead on it, and let us know. So
(05:55):
what are we actually talking about today, man, I'm glad
you asked no. Yeah, thank you for putting up with
my short attention span. Theater, We are talking about a
very strange thing that we looked into most of this week,
which is the conspiracy theory that the United Kingdom owns
the United States or controls it. This is something you
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may have already heard about if you are existing in
this conspiracy sphere on the Internet the way that we do.
It's it's an old theory. It's pretty strange. We really
got to delve into it because we did a video
this week with All Time Conspiracies and they were discussing
how dangerous the United Kingdom is, and we decided we
(06:38):
were going to look into this question. But they're so polite,
so so polite. I just kill you with kindness. And
if you check out the comments from people who live
in the UK on that video, it's it's hilarious. They're
they're a bunch of people say, oh, the jig is
up by Joe, hide their bodies. So before we talk
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about the the this theory, we've got to talk a
little bit about the history about one of the most
important breakups in the Western Hemisphere. So everyone, if you
would cast your memories back to the seventeen seventies when
Britain still owned the thirteen colonies that were carved out
of Native American land. These were Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia. That's
(07:26):
a good one. It's a good one. Yeah, I'm fine
with them, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York,
North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, and Virginia, whereas
I like to call it Old Virginia. Um. The relationship
between the colonies and the crown was let's say, tense,
to say the least. So during the previous decade Britain
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passed numerous acts meant to suppress and control their colonial underlings.
I suppose they wouldn't see them. It was very close
to what you could call economic warfare, essentially if they
waited on their subjects. Yeah right, mercantile is um. We
all remember this, maybe from history or social studies, that
being a system where in raw materials its resource extraction, right,
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timber lumber for whatever else people are into at that time,
shipped off to uh the owner of the colony. Because
this was a brand new land full of wondrous things
that it was just bountiful. Let's take all of it
and return. They function as a captive market to buy
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manufactured goods from this homeland. So in other words, they're
breaking their backs extracting these raw materials, shipping them back
to Britain, who are then using these raw materials to
make goods that they are then selling back to the colonists. Yeah,
it sounds familiar. Doesn't sound like a particularly sweet deal
if you ask me. I mean, it depends on who
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you are in that deal. That's fair, because it's good
to be king baby, you know. But so that's that's
a great background. Or here are a couple of examples
of what happened during those decades leading up seventeen sixty one,
the British officials decided to stop smuggling because you know,
they're they're getting Ah, that's right, we're still a family
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show a boatload of revenue off of each boatload, each boatload.
Yes exactly, that's that's you got me man. Uh So
what they wanted to do is invague people's privacy by
using general search warrants when they could just go into
a house anyone suspective smuggling. And the columnists said, hey,
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now hey, now we're English citizens and you shouldn't be
able to do that. And England was like l Mayo GTFO,
And that's what kind of smuggling were talking about, Like
were they stealing materials where they smuggling things like two
other family members. Like I'm just wondering, right, this would
be uh, this be smuggling in the sense of not
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necessarily an illegal good. But because you know, now, when
we think of smuggling, we think of several things. We
think of drugs, weapons, and human beings. Right, those are
general trafficking is the word trafficking? Yeah, but back then
it would be something when it would be a situation
where you're more than likely just trying to avoid paying
in excise tax. See, so if you're stealing from the crown. Yeah,
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it could be cotton, you know what I mean, there's cotton.
There's a cotton tycoon somewhere. I don't know that's a
bad example, but alright, so other things. In seventeen sixty three,
the British decided that no colonists could advance west past
a certain past a certain area here's an imaginary line.
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And you know, I think that's fortunate for the people
who lived still lived in the western area and once
lived in the area that the colonists discovered. Whatever. However,
this was considered a betrayal by a lot of people
who had come to the colonies to explore westward. And
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then they said, you can't use colonial currency to pay
back your debts. It's got to be sterling money. And
the of course you quarterine Acts, Stamp Act. Uh. Then
this leads up to the Boston massacre in seventeen seventy,
where some snowball throwing went wrong. Five civilians ended up
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dying from shots fired into the crowd. Then the Boston
Tea Party, then what's called the Intolerable Acts, where parliament
the UK or the British Parliament ordered the port of
Boston closed until the tea was paid for, and passed
other measures that were supposed to punish the people of
Massachusetts by depriving them of what rights they had remaining.
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And we all see where this is going, right, Yeah,
to the Revolutionary War, to the thing that we're taught
in His tree, as you know, the birth of our nation.
This is this is how we became the United States
of America by fighting back against our oppressors. And on
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April nineteenth, seventeen seventy, the war began at Lexington and Concord,
and it lasted for eight years, ended on September three
of sevree Um, and as the war stretched on, support
for the conflict diminished. In Britain. Popular opinions sort of
shifted to kind of support the colonists. More and more
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people believe the war cost more than the colonies were
actually worth. So maybe they weren't exactly siding with the colonists,
but they realized that this was something that was ultimately
sort of a losing battle. Well, yeah, this is a
thing that happens throughout history where there's a conflict in
lands that are not your own, and the populace start saying,
why are we spending all of this money to go
and fight over there? At some point there was a
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there's a breaking point in the opinion of the populace
up and and the question is what what benefit is
this to us? Because the colonies had a much smaller
military force, but they also had a much shorter trip
to the fight. So as you as you said, no, uh,
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this ends the war right seventeen eighty three, and it
officially ends. The reason we have the official day and
day and date is because it was ended by the
Treaty of Paris that said Okay, the beef is squashed.
Here are our conditions, our new relationship or whatever it
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will be. And it had some interesting stuff, you know.
It said that there were private debts that had to
be returned, the property of British citizens had to be
returned to them. Uh, the colonies were granted sovereignty, which
is the big one, and even some fishing rights. So
with the Treaty of Paris in seventeen eighty three, the
US became its own sovereign, independent country, or did it.
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Here's where it gets crazy. There are a lot of
people that you will run into, perhaps late night at
a bar. Maybe they've had a few tube, too many
to drink, too many loggers, Perhaps maybe they're just maybe
it's Nolan, I, maybe it's me. Who knows, but you
might run into them who will tell you that the
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United States is not its own sovereign nation. No, no, no,
In fact, it is controlled still by its ancient mother,
Great Britain. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh that. It sounds like
a lot to take in or consider, But this is
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similar to other theories there. There are a lot of
theories of what I would call foreign control. Right, the
idea that there's another state, be at Saudi Arabia or
Israel control in the US, the idea that it might
be a bank, the idea that it might be a
bigger instance tuition like the United Nations or something. But
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one of the most elaborate arguments for this theory came
from a website called the Forbidden Knowledge. So, according to
this site, the Treaty of Paris was actually a way
for the king to rid himself of obligations and liabilities
to the colonists while retaining you know, financial advantage because
the colonists still had to repay certain debts that they had. Uh,
(15:29):
there's a concept of the US is not so much
a nation as it is a corporation. And even in
the age of increasing corporate power, there's still a huge
difference between a private corporation and a state. Right. This
is also something might hear from a writer called Alex
Christopher and author of a book called Pandora's Box, and
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this this is one of the big proponents of it,
and he argues that we're still subject to the British Commonwealth. Right.
This cons that is um is pretty similar in a
couple of different places to the author of Forbidden Knowledge
or on that website. They say that the difference between
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a corporation or corporate charter in a country remains in
the state level constitutions. And uh, we've got a quote here.
Who wants to do the honors? I got you? I
have always used a copy of the North Carolina Constitution
provided by the state. I should have known better to
take this as the final authority. To my knowledge, the
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following quote has not been in the constitution the state
hands out or in those in use in schools. The
seventeen seventies six North Carolina Constitution created a new corporate
charter and declared our individual freedoms. However, the same corporate
charter reserved the King's title to the land, which restored
and did not diminish his grants that were made in
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his early charters. If you remember, I made the claim
that legally we are still subject to the King. In
the below quote, you will see that the King declares
our taxation will be forever, and that a fourth of
all gold and silver will be returned to him, yielding
and pain yearly to us ours and successors for the
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same the yearly rent of twenty marks of lawful money
of England at the Feast of all Saints, yearly forever,
the first payment thereof to begin and be made on
the Feast of all Saints, which shall be in the
year of our Lord one thousand, six hundred sixty and five.
And also the fourth part of all gold and silver,
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or which, with the limits aforesaid, shall from time to
time happened to be found. And if I may, in
the battle of the accents, I concede to you so
and you win. We had I didn't mean to start
off with one, by the way, I was trying to
just I slipped in a listen. It's fun to read
things in access. I thought that word, um, I think
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the word pretty well. We're passing the quotation around, you know.
I feel like the strength of the accents went up
into the right. I just felt I feel like graph No,
I think it was all. I think it started at
the top and right and stayed so there are this
is interesting right when you listen to that. It might
take a few listens to really have all that sink
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in of what this gentleman is saying. Um. But there
are some other ideas regarding this subject of who controls
the United States and possibly why. One of them is
that the US is not necessarily controlled by let's say,
the crown, by the royal family, the Queen and all
of her youngsters, but instead by this place that we've
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been researching this week that is awfully strange, the City
of London. Now, this is the reason that why this
is weird is because it's an incorporated city smack dab
in the middle of Greater London, and it's it's very tiny.
I think there are what eleven thousand people who actually
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reside in the city itself, some some very small number
compared to the number of people who actually live in
Greater London. I mean there's a lot of sprawl in
that area in general. So yeah, but it's a it's
very very tiny, and I think three I think the
quote that I had read was three thousand people come
into quote the City of London to work. Yeah. Yeah,
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and they have a trade association and guild or the
control of the City of London. The livery companies, Yeah,
the liverary companies. Medieval guilds that turned into corporations and
we'll still call themselves something like the Worshipful Company of
Grocers or drapers or fishmongers and there's no monging of fish.
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You know. I have to say, just as a side note,
I'm kind of I'm kind of jealous of those groups.
I kind of want to be in a worship worshipful
organization of video producers. Yes, that'd be great, you guys
the monger, Yes please. I'm I'm also envious. So that
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the city of London is a place that I think
deserves its own episode. But it is one of the
financial hubs of the world, right It's it's closely connected
with various central banks. They are all kinds of interesting
proven things about it, and then many many more alleged things.
So that's one of our suspects for running the US,
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that there would be financial control based in the City
of London, and that that is the true power behind
the throne of Uncle Sam. And that's you know, that's
a not necessarily impossible to be honest, It might be
(20:49):
a bit implausible. No, I don't know. It feels like
it it It would be difficult to prove that to me,
to get me to really say, okay, yes, that's true.
The city, the City of London controls all of the US.
I don't know. Well, nine foreign companies are listed in
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London and they represent about of the global foreign equity listing,
so one fifth of the financial power of the world.
I mean that's pretty darn big, right there is that.
You know, when we do the episode on City of London,
we're gonna we're gonna see some weird stuff here. But
it's also guys, it's not unheard of for a bank, two,
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or even a corporation to interfere with the working of
a country or a state, you know, especially if if
they're weaker. We've talked about that before on here. I
think the Banana Republic episode is one of my favorite
examples of that. They have great pants, yes, yes, they Yeah,
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aside from the fantastic trousers. What we're referring to would
be a war waged by essentially a corporation with the
cooperation of the US, right and what was the name
of that again, Matt, the United Fruit Company. They were
they were tenacious in in their attempts to maintain control
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over their business. Uh In. I think South America, Central
America like that. Yeah, So typically this this does happen,
like you said, with the weaker states, places that have
a lot of resources but not necessarily a lot of GDP,
you know what I mean. So the the sheer size
and scope of the U. S economy makes it pretty
tough for all but just a very few upper echelon
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companies to push the government around. So you know, sure
we can confirm that corporations corrupt individual lawmakers, but they
don't necessarily have as much influence as they would in
a weaker country. Sure that makes sense. So you know,
we hear about, we hear about the influence that corporations
can have lobbying, but that is that is um a
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pale shadow of what we would be talking about, which
is somebody going in to the seat of power and
saying jump or you know, we want South Dakota, no questions.
I imagine someone entering the Oval office, perhaps turning off
the lights, just you know, taking on their own to
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do that, maybe going over and shutting some of the
blinds and just having a stern talk with the president
after disconnecting the phone line. Of course, So there's another
there's another idea here. We talked we're talking about big companies,
but what about individual banks or individual bankers or families
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of bankers. Yep, you're going there, are It gets a
little trickier. You know exactly where this is going. Gentlemen,
Are you gonna say our favorite family in the whole
wide world the Rothschilds Or no, No, you're going to
talk about the Goldman Sax or the Asters or the Morgan's.
Maybe could it be Satan Uh? Maybe I was thinking
(24:12):
more of the Rockefellers, but you might be on the
right track. Nailed it on the first trial. The Rothchild
the people that come up so often that we might
as well just invite them on this show and and
get a sound cue or something. Yes, I doubt they
would come, so, yeah, you have to be a like
a done done dune. I would love that, but we
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would have to clear that sound cue with them in
in advance so that they don't feel betrayed. Yeah, they
would just buy how stuff works. Oh that's true, they
probably would. So we have um no idea how much
money this family collectively owns. When I say we, I
mean the media, I mean pretty much everybody outside of
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that family or out side of its um close uh
close group of financial advisors. Yeah, because we're talking about
historical money, money that was worth millions when they originally
got it and now is worth hundreds and hundreds of billions,
and you know it's put away for children for descendants,
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and then it kind of just sticks around and gets
bigger and bigger and bigger. I mean, dude, there's there
even conspiracy theories alleging that the Rothchild's control the UK.
Who you know, we're talking about the conspiracy theory alleging
at the UK control of the US. So if the
Rothchilds control the UK and they're at the top of
a pretty sick pyramid here, yeah, right. And then there's
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that quote that's often attributed to Mayor Rothschild himself, the
founder of the dynasty. Give me control of a nation's
money supply and I cannot who makes its laws? Now.
Interestingly enough, I did a deep dive on this quote
while I was making the video. Uh, it's I said, attributed. Yes, No,
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you're absolutely correct, it's It is mostly attributed to Mayor Rothschild. However,
the only documented source of it that I could find
came from a subcommittee within the House of Representatives in
the United States, and it was a gentleman speaking about
the Rothschilds. And I'm going to read you this quote
that I could find because it it makes more sense
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with someone talking about the Rothschilds than a rothschild sitting
there and and you know, making the evil face and
saying well, toiling is villainous mustache. And this from the
scipt article, right, This is not from the skipt ark.
I went directly to the actual book or the the
congressional record. You have the rural the rural credits. So
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this comes from Daniel T. Cushing, who was a financial
writer in Washington, d c. From February sixteenth, nineteen fourteen. Quote,
let us control the money of a country, and we
cannot who makes its awesome? This is the maxim of
the House of Rothschilds and is the foundation principle of
European banks. It makes no difference whether you call it
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a republic or a monarchy. The people can never be
free as the borrower is the servant of the Lenda
masterpiece theater man. We digress. What what does this make
you think of, Matt Well? It makes me think of
the Federal Reserve. That's a topic that we've touched on
(27:34):
before in this podcast and on our videos, and it's
one of those it feels murky to someone who doesn't
know a whole lot about the history of the Federal Reserve.
And I don't know, do you guys ever stay awake
at night and think, Wow, how does this money happen? Why?
Why is there more and more money happening? You know,
(27:56):
there's Federal Reserve news today, right. No, they they're gonna
up the interest rate for the first time since the
financial collapse, like the the rates have been at zero,
I think pretty much directly as a result of that,
to try to help rebuild in some ways. Like correct,
they said the that the U. S economy could handle
arise in rates. Oh man, the Federals are such a
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confusing thing, it is, And I actually, you know this
is it has sort of a kind of is monarchical
a word I don't know. Okay, So you know you've
got like the chairman of the Fed, and for the
longest time leading up to the financial collapse, it was
this guy, Alan Greenspan, right. And I saw this great
clip the other day of it was from I think
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it was like two thousand or something like that, and
it was Bernie Sanders berating Alan Greenspan during some sort
of hearing, basically saying that like you need to, you know,
meet come with me to Vermont and like meet some
regular people, because you, sir, are completely out of touch,
and you say things and have these ideas that you know,
it doesn't matter where products are manufactured as long as
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you know our g d P is up, and even
though people are losing their jobs because these jobs are
being shipped overseas, etcetera. And Greenspan totally defends himself and says,
you know that we have the highest standard of living
of any developed nation of our size, this, that and
the other, and then some years go by, collapse happens.
Dude has to back down in front of a congressional
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Here he basically says that his logic was flawed. And
I don't need to divert too much from that, but
I guess what I'm what My point is that your
point is that he got burned, he got be felt burned.
My point is it just the system. It's it seems
very um it's it's the fact that one person can
steer this system, you know, is very suspect and very
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strange to me. Right, Yeah, And here's something from the
skeptical article it alluded to earlier that I that I
think can shed someone in this so up to weight
of course, is a debunking and skeptic based website right
and podcast, which is great, right Yeah. It's not a
(30:09):
what if or is it possible? It's a it starts
from this is bs. Yeah. It shoots a lot of
things down. I would say that in gathering, if you're
doing your own research in this and listening to this podcast,
I would say it's a good place to go and
get one side. Yeah yeah, yeah, like as as said
this for and try to practice it myself. But it
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is so important to read the stuff that you disagree
with as well as the stuff with which you agree,
especially considering that you're probably doing research online and you're
probably using Google, and Google, unless you're very careful, is
going to figure out what you like, and it's only
going to show you that so you'll learn even less dangerous.
(30:52):
It is dangerous and it's stuff, But that's that's the
way of the world. I am. I am not condoning
nor doors seen any search engine. I think you should
do all of your searches through the popular nineties thirties
crooner Bing Crosby. Yes. Done you need is a Wigi
board as well. Uh weigi board in a mixtape that
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he enjoys brought it back all right, So Skip Toy said,
has this great quotation. They say that the Rothchild's family,
while much of the story is real, that their powers
often exaggerated in the modern day, say there is no
longer any such thing as a monolithic house of Rothchild
with connections to any significant number of all scores of
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today's independent Rothchild business ventures. The closest thing is Rothchild's
Continuation Holdings a G, a Swiss company that manages interest
in many UH institutions founded by the family. They're no
longer any family members on the board, though about eight
Rothchilds are believed to own stakes in it, and like
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many holding companies, it's privately how so the records aren't public. Uh.
The other owners are Rabbo Bank and Hong Kong based
Jardine Mathison Holdings. So the Rothchild's funds that manages focus
on mergers and acquisitions, and although it has billions and assets,
that's relatively small in comparison to the see of world
(32:20):
financial institutions with trillions and assets. So he's saying, yes,
they're big, but there are bigger things around now, you know, Yeah, exactly,
I think he's putting in. For me, it puts in
a perspective the idea that it wouldn't be a single
family controlling anything. It would be a group, perhaps in oligarchy.
If this were true, it would be a group of
(32:42):
competing powers, essentially that all maybe want a similar goal
or perhaps are even fighting within themselves, which to me
makes the whole thing a lot less plausible. Right, Yeah,
I could see what you're saying. It's it's easy, it's
tempting to think in more hollywood ish terms. But but yeah,
(33:04):
it's so we we oh, we shall also point out
one thing the economic stats. Oh yes, So the UK
has a gross domestic product of two point four four
trillion dollars while the US has a GDP of fifteen
point six eight trillion. So economically anyway, um, officially, the
US just annihilates the UK. And that's not even talking
(33:28):
about military might or not the money spent on military
every Yeah, that's a really good point, guys, because I
don't know how um yeah, but I mean, but but
if we're just you know, a puppet government, then they
control of that too. Well yeah, because if they're in control,
oh man, then we're just the we're the security and
(33:49):
they are the economic head in a way. Oh no,
we're the muscle. They're the brains. Were the dumb ones were?
They do have more experience. Yeah, they've been building in uh,
controlling colonies for a long time. Yeah, it's true. And
you know, it startles a lot of people who don't
live in a Commonwealth country to learn about the status
(34:12):
of commonwealths, you know, and why why the US is
not one but Canada is or Australia is. You know,
this can be this can be very strange to someone
who's not familiar with that system. So there is some
degree of control there. So what's the takeaway here? No,
I'm gonna I'm just gonna lay it out here for you,
(34:34):
at least what I believe. It might not be as
simple as saying that the UK controls the US, but
that doesn't mean there are no nefarious, backdoor avenues of
that kind of control, right Matt. Yeah, you can look
at several past episodes that we've done specifically on the
Council on Foreign Relations. I think that's correct. I forget
if it's on foreign relations, of of I think it's
(34:56):
on also the Trilateral Commission to very interesting groups that
work inside the United States but have influences from outside
of it. Sure, Builder Bird's uh, the Bohemian grove parties, Uh,
Skull and Bones all kinds of jazz does sound like
some swinging shin digs that. I'll tell you that. The
Bohemian growth Bohemian just the name of it just makes
(35:18):
it sound like having a good old time. From what
I hear, it's their world leaders who are just getting
college level smashed. Yeah, but let's not forget that the US,
along with several other you know, English speaking countries, form
a super tight enknit and very highly secretive intelligence community.
So it's tough to know who pulls the strings. It's
(35:40):
probably not the Queen though you think so, and I
think it's probably not. I've figured it out, guys, I've
just now figured it out. I know who pulls the strings.
Who pulls the strings? I'm actually stealing this from an
internet video I saw, I think in two thousand four.
But there are three string pullers, Okay. In the United States,
(36:01):
it's the military industrial complex, Oh, I remember this one.
In the United Kingdom it's the financial industrial complex. And
in Rome, guess what it is the spiritual Yeah, industrial nice.
So the commander of the U. S Armed Forces and
(36:22):
the wealthiest person in the UK and the Pope and
the pope walk into a bar. Uh wow. No, I'm
not gonna try to make a choke with that. Uh No,
you can cut this if you want. Will you please
do the pope voice? Okay? Well that means can I
(36:49):
ask the Pope a question? Yes? Ask uh pope? Um,
so do you control the world in some way? Ask
a man? I got a question? Okay? Um? Who does
your taxes? Okay? Matt, Matt, be cool. Now that was
(37:11):
pretty close. You can't go around asking the pope questions
like you're right? Sorry, Um, I just got nervous and
just started a question started popping out. Yeah, I'm just
I'm glad we made it through it. We shouldn't push
our luck. Guys. It's probably time to get out of here,
but I want to end on try to end on
a positive note here. Who controls the US? Theoretically the voters? Yes?
(37:35):
So what does that mean? We're in an election cycle
right now? You know we have historically low voter or
turned out. It'd be cool if folks would vote. I'm
not going to say who you should vote for. But
I just think in general it's probably a good idea,
knowing what Ben just said is in fact true, that
is what our system is based on, probably a good
(37:55):
idea to exercise that right. Well, think of it like
think of it like the tax you pay for the
right to complain about politics until the next election. Yeah, absolutely,
that's that's probably the best way to do it. And
if you're a person who, for one reason or another
is a conscientious subjector to voting, then honestly, you forfeit
(38:17):
your right to complain about politicians in general because you
had a chance to do one very small thing. It's
very small. Yeah, and again this is an extremely complicated
subject when you break start breaking down what vote means
in a particular area about super PACs. But but Ben
(38:37):
is absolutely right in that that is the one thing
that you have as a power right now that you
can use. I had a funny conversation with them, just
started to get a contagiently we're closing it out. So
let's let's call this the the close out tangent. Now
we need a green name for this. Uh the segment
is it the close out broke? Because because it used
to be so when we in in your name. So
(39:00):
here's what I propose. We need a fourth person. No, no,
there's not an affair in this box for a fourth person. Um,
what I propose is listeners. If you guys, we are
thinking about doing some couple of little segments that we
pop up with here and there. So if anyone you
guys have any cool ideas for the name of the
segment at the end where we kind of wrap up
the topic and then we talked about whatever we want
(39:21):
to give us your suggestions. Yeah, about what I was
gonna say was, um, yeah, my my roommate, um, Frank
who you guys know? You guys, I mean Ben and
Matt Um. But listeners, you should get to know Frank too.
He's a lovely fellow. He's good. But we were talking
last night about how it seems in a lot of
ways that Citizens United has failed because look at what's
(39:44):
going on. It's all of these billionaires like put their
money behind, like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio, and Trump
is just trouncing both of them with his own money.
And maybe this is like an unusual situation and this
is you know, not this is like the exception to
the rule. But as as incredible and awe inspiring and
(40:06):
comical as everything with Donald Trump is, I do get
a little bit of satisfaction out of seeing, you know,
these billionaires losing all this money. I wonder it's early on,
and yet as well as early on, we've seen it
before with other like Pero Rossbero. I mean, he was
a billionaire putting forth his own money. I think. I
don't think it's a new thing necessarily, but it is
(40:29):
definitely ridiculous the amount of money that's just been kind
of thrown away. I'm just saying, like you know, everyone
with Citizens United said, oh, this means that the billionaires
and the corporations can buy elections. Doesn't seem like it's
quite that simple necessarily. That's all I'm saying. It's it's
sort of a bad road to a sort of positive realization.
That's a that's a good point. And you know, I
(40:50):
hadn't thought about that in a long time. I haven't
thought about the impact of the Citizens United ruling. Um. Yeah, wow,
I feel like a horrible citizen of the country. And
can you guys settle one thing for me real quick
before we get out of here. Whatever happened to equal
time in news coverage for political candidates. Is that just
not a thing anymore? Debates? Yeah, but it's not no, no,
(41:13):
not not debates, just with coverage. I thought there was
a thing where you know, if you give a certain
amount of attention and coverage to one candidate, that you
have to match that with any other candidate. Is that
not that I am not making that up, that I'm
not learned that in civics class when I was a kid.
But it does not seem like that's happening, That's all
I'm saying. It doesn't seem like it applies because there
will be let's see, uh, networks that lean more to
(41:36):
the left here in the US will cover Hillary Clinton
pretty extensively and not really cover Donald Trump except to say,
you know, here's a gaff or something, and then you know,
on the other hand, it's it's reversed. And conservative networks,
more right leaning networks will show um show clips, lionizing
(41:58):
the handed the most successful canda, which I guess at
this point would be Donald Trump, and then just only
report democratic stuff if they are you know, if there
are gaps or if there are questions they're shady business
with email, for instance, Yeah, just so you know, this
goes back to the Communications Act of nineteen thirty four,
(42:19):
which was amended. Uh. Let's see Title forty seven of
the United States Code by the SEC. It goes way
back to then, and it has evolved clier time evolved.
That's an interesting phrase to use. Oh. One, one quick
thing here, guys, I just want to add some further
reading to anyone who was interested in continuing along in
(42:41):
this research. There are a couple of books you can
find either on archive dot org or books dot Google
dot com. Uh. We mentioned these a couple of these
in the video. One is The Secrets of the Federal
Reserve by Eustace Mullins, which was published I think in
nineteen eighty three. Uh. There's another one by Gary H.
Kaw called en Route to Global Occupation. And then the
(43:06):
third one I just wanted to mention here if you're
more if you're interested in the Federal Reserve angle of
some of this stuff, The Creature from Jekyll Island by
Edward Griffin. So what do you think about all of this?
Ladies and gentlemen, who do you think controls the good
old US of A? Or will it be the voters
will it be the super PACs and the money behind them?
(43:29):
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I think that's a fun idea. Listening to podcasts with
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(01:49):
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on a thumb drive that came in this awesome little
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(02:12):
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So anybody out there looking for a clever late Christmas gift.
Go on Amazon and look for mixtape USB stick and
you know, and I thought it was really creative. That's
too involved. She must really like you. That's fantastic. And
I was impressed. I'm a little and it's and the
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Is as good as CBS Bangers Volume three. No, well no,
I didn't know. Yes, that's different. It's on. That's a
horse of a different color. Yeah. Well, congratulations, I'd love
to Can we hear it sometime or is it like
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(02:56):
you know what. That's fair enough. That's fair. So today
we're going to do something a little bit different. We
have a short segment for you. Let's just call it
in the News, since we think of a more clever name.
And here is the intro for that segment. Okay, So
(03:18):
our question or a suggestion in the news recently came
from Twitter via a listener named super Chip, who asked
us if we were going to talk about these mysterious
ghost ship washing up on shore in Japan. And guys,
I've heard about this right Because of that, our Twitter
friend yeah, because of some people on Twitter. Well what
(03:40):
it What turns out what happened is that for the
past two months, at least a dozen boats carrying the
remains of a little less than thirty people have been
found drifting off the coast of Japan. No idea who
these people were. For a long time, the news had
no idea why they were coming. But from what we
know so far, it appears that these um these are
(04:02):
fishing vessels, and it appears that they're coming from North Korea.
So and they think that because weren't some of the
I guess the clothes on the bodies seem to be
from Korea featuring featuring the lapel badge of Kim Jong Il,
which most people outside of North Korea do or the
DPRK do not wear, so it appears that they're going
(04:25):
that way. One of the big questions was whether these
whether these people were attempting to defect from the country.
But the problem is that the path they take doesn't
really makes sense because if you were going to defect,
According to John Nilson Wright, who is ahead of the
(04:46):
Asia program at Chatham House, if you were going to defect,
you would head south to South Korea, rather than going
across to Japan. So the other theory right now is
that these ships were ill faded, ill fated fishermen who
were sent out to try to bolster dwindling food supplies. Yeah,
(05:08):
maybe go out a little further than they normally would
or something seems like, if you're going to defect two,
you might ditch your kim John il Pens. Well that's
true for me. It's kind of a cover right if
you're like, oh no, no, we're still all good everything. Yeah,
I don't know. That sounds a good point. So it's
strange because there have been a lot of wrecked boats
(05:29):
drifting towards Japan every year. There were more than sixty
last year, and most of them were empty. The mystery continues.
Right now, there's pretty there's pretty good evidence, or that's
pretty solid speculation that there would be a bunch of
ill fated fishermen. But of course there might be something
more to the story. So stay tuned and if you
have a lead on it, and let us know. So
(05:55):
what are we actually talking about today, man, I'm glad
you asked no. Yeah, thank you for putting up with
my short attention span. Theater, We are talking about a
very strange thing that we looked into most of this week,
which is the conspiracy theory that the United Kingdom owns
the United States or controls it. This is something you
(06:18):
may have already heard about if you are existing in
this conspiracy sphere on the Internet the way that we do.
It's it's an old theory. It's pretty strange. We really
got to delve into it because we did a video
this week with All Time Conspiracies and they were discussing
how dangerous the United Kingdom is, and we decided we
(06:38):
were going to look into this question. But they're so polite,
so so polite. I just kill you with kindness. And
if you check out the comments from people who live
in the UK on that video, it's it's hilarious. They're
they're a bunch of people say, oh, the jig is
up by Joe, hide their bodies. So before we talk
(07:01):
about the the this theory, we've got to talk a
little bit about the history about one of the most
important breakups in the Western Hemisphere. So everyone, if you
would cast your memories back to the seventeen seventies when
Britain still owned the thirteen colonies that were carved out
of Native American land. These were Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia. That's
(07:26):
a good one. It's a good one. Yeah, I'm fine
with them, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York,
North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, and Virginia, whereas
I like to call it Old Virginia. Um. The relationship
between the colonies and the crown was let's say, tense,
to say the least. So during the previous decade Britain
(07:48):
passed numerous acts meant to suppress and control their colonial underlings.
I suppose they wouldn't see them. It was very close
to what you could call economic warfare, essentially if they
waited on their subjects. Yeah right, mercantile is um. We
all remember this, maybe from history or social studies, that
being a system where in raw materials its resource extraction, right,
(08:12):
timber lumber for whatever else people are into at that time,
shipped off to uh the owner of the colony. Because
this was a brand new land full of wondrous things
that it was just bountiful. Let's take all of it
and return. They function as a captive market to buy
(08:33):
manufactured goods from this homeland. So in other words, they're
breaking their backs extracting these raw materials, shipping them back
to Britain, who are then using these raw materials to
make goods that they are then selling back to the colonists. Yeah,
it sounds familiar. Doesn't sound like a particularly sweet deal
if you ask me. I mean, it depends on who
(08:54):
you are in that deal. That's fair, because it's good
to be king baby, you know. But so that's that's
a great background. Or here are a couple of examples
of what happened during those decades leading up seventeen sixty one,
the British officials decided to stop smuggling because you know,
they're they're getting Ah, that's right, we're still a family
(09:17):
show a boatload of revenue off of each boatload, each boatload.
Yes exactly, that's that's you got me man. Uh So
what they wanted to do is invague people's privacy by
using general search warrants when they could just go into
a house anyone suspective smuggling. And the columnists said, hey,
(09:39):
now hey, now we're English citizens and you shouldn't be
able to do that. And England was like l Mayo GTFO,
And that's what kind of smuggling were talking about, Like
were they stealing materials where they smuggling things like two
other family members. Like I'm just wondering, right, this would
be uh, this be smuggling in the sense of not
(10:02):
necessarily an illegal good. But because you know, now, when
we think of smuggling, we think of several things. We
think of drugs, weapons, and human beings. Right, those are
general trafficking is the word trafficking? Yeah, but back then
it would be something when it would be a situation
where you're more than likely just trying to avoid paying
in excise tax. See, so if you're stealing from the crown. Yeah,
(10:26):
it could be cotton, you know what I mean, there's cotton.
There's a cotton tycoon somewhere. I don't know that's a
bad example, but alright, so other things. In seventeen sixty three,
the British decided that no colonists could advance west past
a certain past a certain area here's an imaginary line.
(10:47):
And you know, I think that's fortunate for the people
who lived still lived in the western area and once
lived in the area that the colonists discovered. Whatever. However,
this was considered a betrayal by a lot of people
who had come to the colonies to explore westward. And
(11:07):
then they said, you can't use colonial currency to pay
back your debts. It's got to be sterling money. And
the of course you quarterine Acts, Stamp Act. Uh. Then
this leads up to the Boston massacre in seventeen seventy,
where some snowball throwing went wrong. Five civilians ended up
(11:27):
dying from shots fired into the crowd. Then the Boston
Tea Party, then what's called the Intolerable Acts, where parliament
the UK or the British Parliament ordered the port of
Boston closed until the tea was paid for, and passed
other measures that were supposed to punish the people of
Massachusetts by depriving them of what rights they had remaining.
(11:51):
And we all see where this is going, right, Yeah,
to the Revolutionary War, to the thing that we're taught
in His tree, as you know, the birth of our nation.
This is this is how we became the United States
of America by fighting back against our oppressors. And on
(12:12):
April nineteenth, seventeen seventy, the war began at Lexington and Concord,
and it lasted for eight years, ended on September three
of sevree Um, and as the war stretched on, support
for the conflict diminished. In Britain. Popular opinions sort of
shifted to kind of support the colonists. More and more
(12:32):
people believe the war cost more than the colonies were
actually worth. So maybe they weren't exactly siding with the colonists,
but they realized that this was something that was ultimately
sort of a losing battle. Well, yeah, this is a
thing that happens throughout history where there's a conflict in
lands that are not your own, and the populace start saying,
why are we spending all of this money to go
and fight over there? At some point there was a
(12:55):
there's a breaking point in the opinion of the populace
up and and the question is what what benefit is
this to us? Because the colonies had a much smaller
military force, but they also had a much shorter trip
to the fight. So as you as you said, no, uh,
(13:17):
this ends the war right seventeen eighty three, and it
officially ends. The reason we have the official day and
day and date is because it was ended by the
Treaty of Paris that said Okay, the beef is squashed.
Here are our conditions, our new relationship or whatever it
(13:37):
will be. And it had some interesting stuff, you know.
It said that there were private debts that had to
be returned, the property of British citizens had to be
returned to them. Uh, the colonies were granted sovereignty, which
is the big one, and even some fishing rights. So
with the Treaty of Paris in seventeen eighty three, the
US became its own sovereign, independent country, or did it.
(14:04):
Here's where it gets crazy. There are a lot of
people that you will run into, perhaps late night at
a bar. Maybe they've had a few tube, too many
to drink, too many loggers, Perhaps maybe they're just maybe
it's Nolan, I, maybe it's me. Who knows, but you
might run into them who will tell you that the
(14:25):
United States is not its own sovereign nation. No, no, no,
In fact, it is controlled still by its ancient mother,
Great Britain. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh that. It sounds like
a lot to take in or consider, But this is
(14:45):
similar to other theories there. There are a lot of
theories of what I would call foreign control. Right, the
idea that there's another state, be at Saudi Arabia or
Israel control in the US, the idea that it might
be a bank, the idea that it might be a
bigger instance tuition like the United Nations or something. But
(15:06):
one of the most elaborate arguments for this theory came
from a website called the Forbidden Knowledge. So, according to
this site, the Treaty of Paris was actually a way
for the king to rid himself of obligations and liabilities
to the colonists while retaining you know, financial advantage because
the colonists still had to repay certain debts that they had. Uh,
(15:29):
there's a concept of the US is not so much
a nation as it is a corporation. And even in
the age of increasing corporate power, there's still a huge
difference between a private corporation and a state. Right. This
is also something might hear from a writer called Alex
Christopher and author of a book called Pandora's Box, and
(15:51):
this this is one of the big proponents of it,
and he argues that we're still subject to the British Commonwealth. Right.
This cons that is um is pretty similar in a
couple of different places to the author of Forbidden Knowledge
or on that website. They say that the difference between
(16:11):
a corporation or corporate charter in a country remains in
the state level constitutions. And uh, we've got a quote here.
Who wants to do the honors? I got you? I
have always used a copy of the North Carolina Constitution
provided by the state. I should have known better to
take this as the final authority. To my knowledge, the
(16:32):
following quote has not been in the constitution the state
hands out or in those in use in schools. The
seventeen seventies six North Carolina Constitution created a new corporate
charter and declared our individual freedoms. However, the same corporate
charter reserved the King's title to the land, which restored
and did not diminish his grants that were made in
(16:53):
his early charters. If you remember, I made the claim
that legally we are still subject to the King. In
the below quote, you will see that the King declares
our taxation will be forever, and that a fourth of
all gold and silver will be returned to him, yielding
and pain yearly to us ours and successors for the
(17:15):
same the yearly rent of twenty marks of lawful money
of England at the Feast of all Saints, yearly forever,
the first payment thereof to begin and be made on
the Feast of all Saints, which shall be in the
year of our Lord one thousand, six hundred sixty and five.
And also the fourth part of all gold and silver,
(17:35):
or which, with the limits aforesaid, shall from time to
time happened to be found. And if I may, in
the battle of the accents, I concede to you so
and you win. We had I didn't mean to start
off with one, by the way, I was trying to
just I slipped in a listen. It's fun to read
things in access. I thought that word, um, I think
(17:55):
the word pretty well. We're passing the quotation around, you know.
I feel like the strength of the accents went up
into the right. I just felt I feel like graph No,
I think it was all. I think it started at
the top and right and stayed so there are this
is interesting right when you listen to that. It might
take a few listens to really have all that sink
(18:17):
in of what this gentleman is saying. Um. But there
are some other ideas regarding this subject of who controls
the United States and possibly why. One of them is
that the US is not necessarily controlled by let's say,
the crown, by the royal family, the Queen and all
of her youngsters, but instead by this place that we've
(18:39):
been researching this week that is awfully strange, the City
of London. Now, this is the reason that why this
is weird is because it's an incorporated city smack dab
in the middle of Greater London, and it's it's very tiny.
I think there are what eleven thousand people who actually
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reside in the city itself, some some very small number
compared to the number of people who actually live in
Greater London. I mean there's a lot of sprawl in
that area in general. So yeah, but it's a it's
very very tiny, and I think three I think the
quote that I had read was three thousand people come
into quote the City of London to work. Yeah. Yeah,
(19:24):
and they have a trade association and guild or the
control of the City of London. The livery companies, Yeah,
the liverary companies. Medieval guilds that turned into corporations and
we'll still call themselves something like the Worshipful Company of
Grocers or drapers or fishmongers and there's no monging of fish.
(19:45):
You know. I have to say, just as a side note,
I'm kind of I'm kind of jealous of those groups.
I kind of want to be in a worship worshipful
organization of video producers. Yes, that'd be great, you guys
the monger, Yes please. I'm I'm also envious. So that
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the city of London is a place that I think
deserves its own episode. But it is one of the
financial hubs of the world, right It's it's closely connected
with various central banks. They are all kinds of interesting
proven things about it, and then many many more alleged things.
So that's one of our suspects for running the US,
(20:28):
that there would be financial control based in the City
of London, and that that is the true power behind
the throne of Uncle Sam. And that's you know, that's
a not necessarily impossible to be honest, It might be
(20:49):
a bit implausible. No, I don't know. It feels like
it it It would be difficult to prove that to me,
to get me to really say, okay, yes, that's true.
The city, the City of London controls all of the US.
I don't know. Well, nine foreign companies are listed in
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London and they represent about of the global foreign equity listing,
so one fifth of the financial power of the world.
I mean that's pretty darn big, right there is that.
You know, when we do the episode on City of London,
we're gonna we're gonna see some weird stuff here. But
it's also guys, it's not unheard of for a bank, two,
(21:35):
or even a corporation to interfere with the working of
a country or a state, you know, especially if if
they're weaker. We've talked about that before on here. I
think the Banana Republic episode is one of my favorite
examples of that. They have great pants, yes, yes, they Yeah,
(21:56):
aside from the fantastic trousers. What we're referring to would
be a war waged by essentially a corporation with the
cooperation of the US, right and what was the name
of that again, Matt, the United Fruit Company. They were
they were tenacious in in their attempts to maintain control
(22:19):
over their business. Uh In. I think South America, Central
America like that. Yeah, So typically this this does happen,
like you said, with the weaker states, places that have
a lot of resources but not necessarily a lot of GDP,
you know what I mean. So the the sheer size
and scope of the U. S economy makes it pretty
tough for all but just a very few upper echelon
(22:40):
companies to push the government around. So you know, sure
we can confirm that corporations corrupt individual lawmakers, but they
don't necessarily have as much influence as they would in
a weaker country. Sure that makes sense. So you know,
we hear about, we hear about the influence that corporations
can have lobbying, but that is that is um a
(23:03):
pale shadow of what we would be talking about, which
is somebody going in to the seat of power and
saying jump or you know, we want South Dakota, no questions.
I imagine someone entering the Oval office, perhaps turning off
the lights, just you know, taking on their own to
(23:24):
do that, maybe going over and shutting some of the
blinds and just having a stern talk with the president
after disconnecting the phone line. Of course, So there's another
there's another idea here. We talked we're talking about big companies,
but what about individual banks or individual bankers or families
(23:46):
of bankers. Yep, you're going there, are It gets a
little trickier. You know exactly where this is going. Gentlemen,
Are you gonna say our favorite family in the whole
wide world the Rothschilds Or no, No, you're going to
talk about the Goldman Sax or the Asters or the Morgan's.
Maybe could it be Satan Uh? Maybe I was thinking
(24:12):
more of the Rockefellers, but you might be on the
right track. Nailed it on the first trial. The Rothchild
the people that come up so often that we might
as well just invite them on this show and and
get a sound cue or something. Yes, I doubt they
would come, so, yeah, you have to be a like
a done done dune. I would love that, but we
(24:35):
would have to clear that sound cue with them in
in advance so that they don't feel betrayed. Yeah, they
would just buy how stuff works. Oh that's true, they
probably would. So we have um no idea how much
money this family collectively owns. When I say we, I
mean the media, I mean pretty much everybody outside of
(24:58):
that family or out side of its um close uh
close group of financial advisors. Yeah, because we're talking about
historical money, money that was worth millions when they originally
got it and now is worth hundreds and hundreds of billions,
and you know it's put away for children for descendants,
(25:19):
and then it kind of just sticks around and gets
bigger and bigger and bigger. I mean, dude, there's there
even conspiracy theories alleging that the Rothchild's control the UK.
Who you know, we're talking about the conspiracy theory alleging
at the UK control of the US. So if the
Rothchilds control the UK and they're at the top of
a pretty sick pyramid here, yeah, right. And then there's
(25:41):
that quote that's often attributed to Mayor Rothschild himself, the
founder of the dynasty. Give me control of a nation's
money supply and I cannot who makes its laws? Now.
Interestingly enough, I did a deep dive on this quote
while I was making the video. Uh, it's I said, attributed. Yes, No,
(26:03):
you're absolutely correct, it's It is mostly attributed to Mayor Rothschild. However,
the only documented source of it that I could find
came from a subcommittee within the House of Representatives in
the United States, and it was a gentleman speaking about
the Rothschilds. And I'm going to read you this quote
that I could find because it it makes more sense
(26:26):
with someone talking about the Rothschilds than a rothschild sitting
there and and you know, making the evil face and
saying well, toiling is villainous mustache. And this from the
scipt article, right, This is not from the skipt ark.
I went directly to the actual book or the the
congressional record. You have the rural the rural credits. So
(26:49):
this comes from Daniel T. Cushing, who was a financial
writer in Washington, d c. From February sixteenth, nineteen fourteen. Quote,
let us control the money of a country, and we
cannot who makes its awesome? This is the maxim of
the House of Rothschilds and is the foundation principle of
European banks. It makes no difference whether you call it
(27:12):
a republic or a monarchy. The people can never be
free as the borrower is the servant of the Lenda
masterpiece theater man. We digress. What what does this make
you think of, Matt Well? It makes me think of
the Federal Reserve. That's a topic that we've touched on
(27:34):
before in this podcast and on our videos, and it's
one of those it feels murky to someone who doesn't
know a whole lot about the history of the Federal Reserve.
And I don't know, do you guys ever stay awake
at night and think, Wow, how does this money happen? Why?
Why is there more and more money happening? You know,
(27:56):
there's Federal Reserve news today, right. No, they they're gonna
up the interest rate for the first time since the
financial collapse, like the the rates have been at zero,
I think pretty much directly as a result of that,
to try to help rebuild in some ways. Like correct,
they said the that the U. S economy could handle
arise in rates. Oh man, the Federals are such a
(28:19):
confusing thing, it is, And I actually, you know this
is it has sort of a kind of is monarchical
a word I don't know. Okay, So you know you've
got like the chairman of the Fed, and for the
longest time leading up to the financial collapse, it was
this guy, Alan Greenspan, right. And I saw this great
clip the other day of it was from I think
(28:41):
it was like two thousand or something like that, and
it was Bernie Sanders berating Alan Greenspan during some sort
of hearing, basically saying that like you need to, you know,
meet come with me to Vermont and like meet some
regular people, because you, sir, are completely out of touch,
and you say things and have these ideas that you know,
it doesn't matter where products are manufactured as long as
(29:04):
you know our g d P is up, and even
though people are losing their jobs because these jobs are
being shipped overseas, etcetera. And Greenspan totally defends himself and says,
you know that we have the highest standard of living
of any developed nation of our size, this, that and
the other, and then some years go by, collapse happens.
Dude has to back down in front of a congressional
(29:26):
Here he basically says that his logic was flawed. And
I don't need to divert too much from that, but
I guess what I'm what My point is that your
point is that he got burned, he got be felt burned.
My point is it just the system. It's it seems
very um it's it's the fact that one person can
steer this system, you know, is very suspect and very
(29:49):
strange to me. Right, Yeah, And here's something from the
skeptical article it alluded to earlier that I that I
think can shed someone in this so up to weight
of course, is a debunking and skeptic based website right
and podcast, which is great, right Yeah. It's not a
(30:09):
what if or is it possible? It's a it starts
from this is bs. Yeah. It shoots a lot of
things down. I would say that in gathering, if you're
doing your own research in this and listening to this podcast,
I would say it's a good place to go and
get one side. Yeah yeah, yeah, like as as said
this for and try to practice it myself. But it
(30:30):
is so important to read the stuff that you disagree
with as well as the stuff with which you agree,
especially considering that you're probably doing research online and you're
probably using Google, and Google, unless you're very careful, is
going to figure out what you like, and it's only
going to show you that so you'll learn even less dangerous.
(30:52):
It is dangerous and it's stuff, But that's that's the
way of the world. I am. I am not condoning
nor doors seen any search engine. I think you should
do all of your searches through the popular nineties thirties
crooner Bing Crosby. Yes. Done you need is a Wigi
board as well. Uh weigi board in a mixtape that
(31:14):
he enjoys brought it back all right, So Skip Toy said,
has this great quotation. They say that the Rothchild's family,
while much of the story is real, that their powers
often exaggerated in the modern day, say there is no
longer any such thing as a monolithic house of Rothchild
with connections to any significant number of all scores of
(31:36):
today's independent Rothchild business ventures. The closest thing is Rothchild's
Continuation Holdings a G, a Swiss company that manages interest
in many UH institutions founded by the family. They're no
longer any family members on the board, though about eight
Rothchilds are believed to own stakes in it, and like
(31:57):
many holding companies, it's privately how so the records aren't public. Uh.
The other owners are Rabbo Bank and Hong Kong based
Jardine Mathison Holdings. So the Rothchild's funds that manages focus
on mergers and acquisitions, and although it has billions and assets,
that's relatively small in comparison to the see of world
(32:20):
financial institutions with trillions and assets. So he's saying, yes,
they're big, but there are bigger things around now, you know, Yeah, exactly,
I think he's putting in. For me, it puts in
a perspective the idea that it wouldn't be a single
family controlling anything. It would be a group, perhaps in oligarchy.
If this were true, it would be a group of
(32:42):
competing powers, essentially that all maybe want a similar goal
or perhaps are even fighting within themselves, which to me
makes the whole thing a lot less plausible. Right, Yeah,
I could see what you're saying. It's it's easy, it's
tempting to think in more hollywood ish terms. But but yeah,
(33:04):
it's so we we oh, we shall also point out
one thing the economic stats. Oh yes, So the UK
has a gross domestic product of two point four four
trillion dollars while the US has a GDP of fifteen
point six eight trillion. So economically anyway, um, officially, the
US just annihilates the UK. And that's not even talking
(33:28):
about military might or not the money spent on military
every Yeah, that's a really good point, guys, because I
don't know how um yeah, but I mean, but but
if we're just you know, a puppet government, then they
control of that too. Well yeah, because if they're in control,
oh man, then we're just the we're the security and
(33:49):
they are the economic head in a way. Oh no,
we're the muscle. They're the brains. Were the dumb ones were?
They do have more experience. Yeah, they've been building in uh,
controlling colonies for a long time. Yeah, it's true. And
you know, it startles a lot of people who don't
live in a Commonwealth country to learn about the status
(34:12):
of commonwealths, you know, and why why the US is
not one but Canada is or Australia is. You know,
this can be this can be very strange to someone
who's not familiar with that system. So there is some
degree of control there. So what's the takeaway here? No,
I'm gonna I'm just gonna lay it out here for you,
(34:34):
at least what I believe. It might not be as
simple as saying that the UK controls the US, but
that doesn't mean there are no nefarious, backdoor avenues of
that kind of control, right Matt. Yeah, you can look
at several past episodes that we've done specifically on the
Council on Foreign Relations. I think that's correct. I forget
if it's on foreign relations, of of I think it's
(34:56):
on also the Trilateral Commission to very interesting groups that
work inside the United States but have influences from outside
of it. Sure, Builder Bird's uh, the Bohemian grove parties, Uh,
Skull and Bones all kinds of jazz does sound like
some swinging shin digs that. I'll tell you that. The
Bohemian growth Bohemian just the name of it just makes
(35:18):
it sound like having a good old time. From what
I hear, it's their world leaders who are just getting
college level smashed. Yeah, but let's not forget that the US,
along with several other you know, English speaking countries, form
a super tight enknit and very highly secretive intelligence community.
So it's tough to know who pulls the strings. It's
(35:40):
probably not the Queen though you think so, and I
think it's probably not. I've figured it out, guys, I've
just now figured it out. I know who pulls the strings.
Who pulls the strings? I'm actually stealing this from an
internet video I saw, I think in two thousand four.
But there are three string pullers, Okay. In the United States,
(36:01):
it's the military industrial complex, Oh, I remember this one.
In the United Kingdom it's the financial industrial complex. And
in Rome, guess what it is the spiritual Yeah, industrial nice.
So the commander of the U. S Armed Forces and
(36:22):
the wealthiest person in the UK and the Pope and
the pope walk into a bar. Uh wow. No, I'm
not gonna try to make a choke with that. Uh No,
you can cut this if you want. Will you please
do the pope voice? Okay? Well that means can I
(36:49):
ask the Pope a question? Yes? Ask uh pope? Um,
so do you control the world in some way? Ask
a man? I got a question? Okay? Um? Who does
your taxes? Okay? Matt, Matt, be cool. Now that was
(37:11):
pretty close. You can't go around asking the pope questions
like you're right? Sorry, Um, I just got nervous and
just started a question started popping out. Yeah, I'm just
I'm glad we made it through it. We shouldn't push
our luck. Guys. It's probably time to get out of here,
but I want to end on try to end on
a positive note here. Who controls the US? Theoretically the voters? Yes?
(37:35):
So what does that mean? We're in an election cycle
right now? You know we have historically low voter or
turned out. It'd be cool if folks would vote. I'm
not going to say who you should vote for. But
I just think in general it's probably a good idea,
knowing what Ben just said is in fact true, that
is what our system is based on, probably a good
(37:55):
idea to exercise that right. Well, think of it like
think of it like the tax you pay for the
right to complain about politics until the next election. Yeah, absolutely,
that's that's probably the best way to do it. And
if you're a person who, for one reason or another
is a conscientious subjector to voting, then honestly, you forfeit
(38:17):
your right to complain about politicians in general because you
had a chance to do one very small thing. It's
very small. Yeah, and again this is an extremely complicated
subject when you break start breaking down what vote means
in a particular area about super PACs. But but Ben
(38:37):
is absolutely right in that that is the one thing
that you have as a power right now that you
can use. I had a funny conversation with them, just
started to get a contagiently we're closing it out. So
let's let's call this the the close out tangent. Now
we need a green name for this. Uh the segment
is it the close out broke? Because because it used
to be so when we in in your name. So
(39:00):
here's what I propose. We need a fourth person. No, no,
there's not an affair in this box for a fourth person. Um,
what I propose is listeners. If you guys, we are
thinking about doing some couple of little segments that we
pop up with here and there. So if anyone you
guys have any cool ideas for the name of the
segment at the end where we kind of wrap up
the topic and then we talked about whatever we want
(39:21):
to give us your suggestions. Yeah, about what I was
gonna say was, um, yeah, my my roommate, um, Frank
who you guys know? You guys, I mean Ben and
Matt Um. But listeners, you should get to know Frank too.
He's a lovely fellow. He's good. But we were talking
last night about how it seems in a lot of
ways that Citizens United has failed because look at what's
(39:44):
going on. It's all of these billionaires like put their
money behind, like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio, and Trump
is just trouncing both of them with his own money.
And maybe this is like an unusual situation and this
is you know, not this is like the exception to
the rule. But as as incredible and awe inspiring and
(40:06):
comical as everything with Donald Trump is, I do get
a little bit of satisfaction out of seeing, you know,
these billionaires losing all this money. I wonder it's early on,
and yet as well as early on, we've seen it
before with other like Pero Rossbero. I mean, he was
a billionaire putting forth his own money. I think. I
don't think it's a new thing necessarily, but it is
(40:29):
definitely ridiculous the amount of money that's just been kind
of thrown away. I'm just saying, like you know, everyone
with Citizens United said, oh, this means that the billionaires
and the corporations can buy elections. Doesn't seem like it's
quite that simple necessarily. That's all I'm saying. It's it's
sort of a bad road to a sort of positive realization.
That's a that's a good point. And you know, I
(40:50):
hadn't thought about that in a long time. I haven't
thought about the impact of the Citizens United ruling. Um. Yeah, wow,
I feel like a horrible citizen of the country. And
can you guys settle one thing for me real quick
before we get out of here. Whatever happened to equal
time in news coverage for political candidates. Is that just
not a thing anymore? Debates? Yeah, but it's not no, no,
(41:13):
not not debates, just with coverage. I thought there was
a thing where you know, if you give a certain
amount of attention and coverage to one candidate, that you
have to match that with any other candidate. Is that
not that I am not making that up, that I'm
not learned that in civics class when I was a kid.
But it does not seem like that's happening, That's all
I'm saying. It doesn't seem like it applies because there
will be let's see, uh, networks that lean more to
(41:36):
the left here in the US will cover Hillary Clinton
pretty extensively and not really cover Donald Trump except to say,
you know, here's a gaff or something, and then you know,
on the other hand, it's it's reversed. And conservative networks,
more right leaning networks will show um show clips, lionizing
(41:58):
the handed the most successful canda, which I guess at
this point would be Donald Trump, and then just only
report democratic stuff if they are you know, if there
are gaps or if there are questions they're shady business
with email, for instance, Yeah, just so you know, this
goes back to the Communications Act of nineteen thirty four,
(42:19):
which was amended. Uh. Let's see Title forty seven of
the United States Code by the SEC. It goes way
back to then, and it has evolved clier time evolved.
That's an interesting phrase to use. Oh. One, one quick
thing here, guys, I just want to add some further
reading to anyone who was interested in continuing along in
(42:41):
this research. There are a couple of books you can
find either on archive dot org or books dot Google
dot com. Uh. We mentioned these a couple of these
in the video. One is The Secrets of the Federal
Reserve by Eustace Mullins, which was published I think in
nineteen eighty three. Uh. There's another one by Gary H.
Kaw called en Route to Global Occupation. And then the
(43:06):
third one I just wanted to mention here if you're
more if you're interested in the Federal Reserve angle of
some of this stuff, The Creature from Jekyll Island by
Edward Griffin. So what do you think about all of this?
Ladies and gentlemen, who do you think controls the good
old US of A? Or will it be the voters
will it be the super PACs and the money behind them?
(43:29):
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(44:13):
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