August 20, 2020 • 53 mins
Did a UFO really crash in Jackfish, Canada? What is 'morphic resonance,' and does psilocybin enhance it? Join the guys as they explore these questions -- as well as hear the first-hand, verified account of a person that successfully lived under a fake identity -- in this week's segment of Listener Mail.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of My Heart Radio. Welcome back to the show.
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My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called
me Ben. We are joined as always with our super
producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you
are you, You are here, and that makes this stuff
they don't want you to know. It's our weekly listener
male segment, and we have to admit we even get
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a lot of strange stuff. I don't know about you all,
but I I love these and I'm especially fond of
the clarifications and corrections we get because it helps keep
the show honest. So thanks to everybody wrote into us
about anarchy and about the origin of skinheads. And thanks also,
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oh my gosh, to the three people who wrote into
us today. There's some amazing things here and there's another
thing that has me honestly quite concerned. Ben. I'm sorry
I didn't see those emails. What do we get wrong
about the origins of skinheads and anarchy? On the anarchy front?
You know, uh, we were largely being humorous with the
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idea that some people just want to watch the world burn.
Obviously that is not the case for all anarchists who
have various different names and motivations. Uh. And you know,
maybe advocating for a peaceful transition to anarchy. Uh. And
then in the term in terms of skinheads, I thought
I had said this on air, but it's uh, skinheads
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get conflated with neo Nazis because they kind of co
opted that movement or that aesthetic in the nineteen seventies,
I want to say. And before then, you know, skinheads
were working class people associated with you know, two tone
culture and stuff like that. Oh, I'm almost positive we
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said that on the show, and clarify that. I think
I sort of got it wrong. And then you chimed
in and clarify the actual origin of the skinhead movement
and how it was co opted into that kind of
more what it's associated with now, which is that neo Nazis,
because we're also talking about sharps and the idea of
skinheads against racial prejudice and all I remember this. Yeah,
And also switching gears here, shout out to the specialist,
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let's call him who wrote in about the Cursed Submarine
episode gave us some amazing insight from somebody who really
understands that kind of situation and maybe had some knowledge.
Shout out to you, unnamed person. We may have to
bring that up in a later episode. And that's what
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we're doing all day today, celebrating you, the most important
part of this show. So we're going to get right
into it with our first message from someone we're going
to call Schmidt. Hey, I listened to you guys to
show a lot. My name is Lusol Schmidt. I listened
to one of your previous EPs sometimes the last year
about UFO crash and in banking sixties and off the
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coast of Nova Scotia, and I wondered if you guys
had heard about the jack Fish First Nation UFO crash
that happened here in Canada. Our government quickly covered it up,
which is kind of crazy because they happened to be
on indigenous land when it happened, and they kicked up
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the media and wouldn't allow the indigenous elders to come
and look, and they said it was some sort of
military test for new gear. But we don't develop our
own planes in Canada so I highly doubt that. I
thought you guys might be interested and have a nice day.
Hell well, well, an unidentified flying vehicle that crashed on
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First Nations soil in Manitoba. WHOA, this sounds amazing. It's
right up our alley. It's exactly the kind of thing
we want to look into. And guess what I did
some looking into this. I did do the research. However,
Schmidt and everyone else listening, I couldn't find the specific
thing that Schmidt was talking about here jack Fish, First
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Nation UFO crash two thousand, two eleven. I did find, however,
a very interesting UFO crash or possible UFO crash that
occurred in a very similar area, or very close at
least in and we found an article here from Mysterious Universe,
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not always the best, worst, but a great place to
find stories like this. The title is UFO crash reported
in Manitoba, denied by Canadian forces. So let's just talk
about what happened here in jack Head Reservation in Manitoba, Canada,
not jack Fish. As Schmidt pointed out, there was a
possible UFO crash into Lake Winnipeg, and it's crazy. In
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this article you can see images of trucks and police
vehicles showing up to the place where this UFO crashed
into the lake. There you can hear stories about people
who were there, who witnessed the aftermath, and there are
a few witnesses who say they saw something enter the lake.
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This is what they say. They saw a quote large
disk that crashed into the lake that was then pulled
out by these military and police authorities. WHOA, whoa. Can
you imagine witnessing that a disc shaped craft entering Lake
Winnipeg and then later that same disc shaped object being
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pulled out by authorities. It feels like an episode of
X Files. Yeah, or an episode of stuff they don't
want you to know. I mean, this is it's It's
interesting because typically in reports of unidentified flying aircraft or
unidentified aerial phenomenon, unidentified flying objects, whatever you wanna call them,
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in most reports they are seeing once right there, seeing
going by or hovering in the air. They're rarely seen,
you know, crashing and then getting pulled back out. Schmidt,
you raise a fantastic point here in your message to us.
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It is true Canada has the ability to license some jets,
like fighter jets. For instance, if we're talking about military craft,
but I don't think they have the budget to domestically
create a lot of military harry craft. This also reminds
me a little bit of the story of the Avro Arrow,
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which might be a story for a different day, but
I don't know. It seems completely reasonable that suppressed military
technology would be confused with the UFO. I mean it
is a UFO, yes, absolutely, and we talked about that
numerous times on this show, the similarity between unacknowledged aircraft
and unacknowledged operations of aircraft by militaries, and how that
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gets confused with, you know, an extraterrestrial vehicle of some
sort all the time, and sometimes on purpose, so so
that the waters get a little muddied about what the
military is actually testing. I would say that Canadian forces
do work closely with US forces when it comes to
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aircraft and aerial intelligence and training and testing of aircraft,
so that's a possibility there. Let's jump to a Wednesday,
February report that was posted on Facebook by someone named Brent.
This comes from that Mysterious Universe article. Here's the Facebook post.
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UFO crash reported on the Jackhead Reserve in Manitoba, Canada.
Apparently the Canadian military have vehicles lined up on north shore.
They're threatening anybody who tries to take pictures. Lots of eyewitnesses.
There's a round object being hauled across the lake, being
pulled by snowmobiles in a bomba deer. Something was seen
going down by eight fishermen. They reported it. Why would
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they not let the media know if it was a
plane crash. There was also another report on social media
that again this is coming from social media. It is
not verified news, right, it's not corroborated. But here's what
it was stated. Apparently a disc shaped craft was seen
crashing through the ice on the lake. At least one
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person got photographic evidence. It has since been detained by
the Canadian military. Interesting. It's very men in black, right, Yeah,
you know, you have to wonder about how mundane the
story might be. One thing that's interesting in a lot
of events that later turn out to be cover ups
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by a military or by a government is sometimes the
motivation for the cover up seems like it wouldn't be
that big of a deal to you know, someone who's
not in the government, like, hey, just say that you
were testing a new kind of uh vertical takeoff device
and that you still have more testing to do. That
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that should be fine, instead of making us think there's
this enormous conspiracy using outdated extra terrestrial technology that landed
in prehistoric times, you know what I mean. But we
have to remember that inside that bubble of military testing
there are valid concerns. The last thing they want is
a geopolitical rival knowing exactly where they are on a
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development timeline, even if they're ahead, even if they're behind.
You want to have that kind of fog of war.
You want to obscure your progress. You know, it's funny.
We we had a little off Mike discussion about the
distinction between jack Head and jack Fish. And I actually
found an article for a region of Canada called Prince Albert.
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It's a website called p a now Prince Albert Now,
and it says Saskatchewan UFO reports in include Jackfish Lake
UH and Prince Albert. And it's just talking about specifically
a sighting on June eighteen. I'm sorry, I said two
thousand eight two thousand eighteen UM near this body of
water called Jackfish Lake. UM. The cier's reported having quote UH,
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dreams and spiritual attacks. Then on July five, there was
another report in the area of someone seeing a silver
orb um hovering in the sky much like you were
describing map near Jackfish Lake around ten in the morning.
Point being is that the crux of this article is
that that this area has been kind of a hot
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spot for UFO sightings, and in Canada in particular, in
two thousand and eighteen, UM there were over nine d
UFO sightings um and that was published in a report
from UFO Ufology Research, which is a group in Manitoba
that publishes you know, data surrounding UFO sightings in the
region UM And you know, while similarly to these kinds
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of reports here, some of them are more difficult to explain. Uh.
Many of them are easily dismissed as just you know,
sightings of lights in the sky, star like objects or
distant lights, etcetera. But the classic kind of flying saucer
disc shaped craft was only present in twenty four of
the as reports. Uh. And that this article suggests that
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perhaps the classic model is not in vogue anymore, which
is interesting. But yeah, I mean, um, it's pretty interesting
to the way this report categorizes the sightings. It has
a quote, strangeness factor graded from one to nine um
and the average strangeness factor in the report was a
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four point four. Uh so, yeah, it's it's certainly become
kind of a hotbed of this kind of this kind
of stuff to the point where even some kind of
UFO enthusiasts or coming to the area to kind of
try to have sightings of their own. And for more
information on that report, uh, check out our earlier episodes
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on the Shack Harbor incident. Check out also Can You
Become a Ufologist? That ufology episode especially will explain why
we see a preponderance of ratings or metrics like strangeness factor. Yep,
check it out. It's a Scatchewan, man, there's all kinds
of stuff going on in the skies over there. They
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ought to call it sasquatchoues stand am never mind. Hey,
if you're in Saskatchewan or in any of these areas
and you've seen something maybe in Manitoba, jack fish, jackhead,
make sure you call us a right to us, just
like Schmidt did. Hey, before we move on, we got
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to let you know that there is an official response
to what occurred, or a retort maybe from the Canadian
forces the military there. So we've got a report here
from CBC. It's Canadian Broadcasting Corporation maybe or company. You
know what it is. If you're Canadian, it's the CBC.
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So um. The Canadian Forces responded and said on Wednesday night,
several people, it's say they saw a bright light in
the sky that there was some kind of UFO. The
rumors became stronger when photos were posted of the actual
Canadian Forces all those vehicles in the area that we
mentioned on that Facebook post, and people were claiming there
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was a UFO was a crash site. But according to
Lieutenant Colonel Paul Davies, it was not a UFO at all.
He says it was an Arctic Response Company group training
exercise that occurred on Lake Winnipeg. He said, quote, there's
no aliens, just my friends in the Air Force who
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are out there helping us on this exercise. I have
the commander of that Air Force contingent sitting right beside me,
and you know, he assures us that that was not
a UFO, but that was him. I think that's a
very conversational approach and I enjoyed hearing it that way.
He also goes on to say that the bright light
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people reported did occur, but that it came from an
airplane that just takes off very quickly. And he says,
from a distance to me, it looked like it was
going straight up in the air, but it was not.
It was just us out there playing our games. I
love the conversational tone. And that's why I mentioned vertical
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takeoff craft because you know those those do exist, right um,
oh yeah, vertical takeoff and landing and uh, you have
to land the plane. So it seems like there's an explanation.
But without more detail, of course, people are going to
insist that the Arctic Response Company group was up to
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something nefarious. Yeah, and just this is a little more
from the article. It says around a hundred and fifty
military personnel took part in that exercise they called Exercise
Arctic Bison. Isn't that awesome? Exercise Arctic Bison. Remember this
occurred in um and there are several groups involved, Canadian
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Brigade groups, second Battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry,
the fourth Canadian Ranger Patrol Group and the four Squadron
of the Royal Canadian Air Force. Lots of groups involved
in a big old exercise. Reminds me of what was
that one Ben, It's exercise in the US around we
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were looking at jade Helm. Jade Helm M. Yes, we
do need to do an update on that also before
we move on. I feel like it's very important for
us to state these sorts of exercises happened pretty constantly,
and if you think about it across the globe, if
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you look at the training exercises, you look at the
war games as they're sometimes called, the field experiments and
so on, there is a ton of activity out there,
and honestly, in the US, we don't hear about a
lot of it. We don't hear a lot about you know, uh,
technological experiments happening in other parts of the world. Right, No,
we don't, but we'd like to hear about it. So
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if you're in the know again, give us a call,
write us an email, do what you gotta do. We
received an anonymous email very recently. There was encrypted both ways,
super secure for the sender and I haven't even opened
what happened with that. You guys there has a little
back and forth and we all were a little freaked
out by this thing. Well, it we maybe should be,
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but at the same time, it's great. We're gonna open
that email, take a look at it. Anybody who wants
to send us things securely, there are ways to do it.
Check it out online, and then send us anything you want,
especially if it's a little sensitive. We're interested. And speaking
of that correspondence and anonymity, that's a pretty good segue
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into our next story, which will explore. After a word
from our sponsor and we are back to shake things
up a little bit, We're going to explore an email next.
This email is from someone who has chosen to identify
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themselves as Jace. Here is what Jace says. Just listen
to the episode that had both the pseudo side and
the guy that was using such an elaborate disguise to
steal money out of those casinos. You can call me Jace.
I'm a big fan of your show. Over a decade ago,
I made a stupid decision to rob a bank and
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had to go on the run. I thought of faking
my own death, but did not have the time or
resources to do so. Instead, Jace says, I went on
the run to a different part of the country and
began using an alias and posing as being from a
different country, using an accent from that country as well.
Well done, James, I would love to hear it. Jas continues,
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saying I was able to get a fake I d
saying I was from that country and with my new
name to start my life over. It was surprisingly scary
how easy it was to do this physically, especially with
the FBI and other law enforcement agencies scouring the US
for me. Mentally, however, it was incredibly arduous. There's the
stress of always looking over your shoulder. One of the
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hardest parts of leaving was severing all ties with loved ones.
It pained me terribly and my family as well. I
was on the run for almost a year when by
a strange stroke of coincidence I ran into some old
family friends from my original life in a theme park
states away from where they lived. Being friends of the family,
they obviously knew I was wanted for the bank robbery.
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The authorities were notified. I was given five years and
have since done the time, paid the money back, completed
probation with no problem. Congratulations Jason, and am now in
the process of writing a book based on the true events.
Keep up the great work you guys, do keep us
updated on the Pentagon's UFO situation. We appreciate you, Jace. Jason. Also,
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first off, this is an email right then, Just like
a voicemail or an email, it's tough to verify sources.
Jason did provide some proof. I did a little bit
of due diligence, and this looks legit. I don't know
if you guys saw the proof that Jason provided. Yeah,
the image what looks like a lineup? M yeah, uh,
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really really interesting stuff here, Jason. Thanks for listening and
telling us about what what you did. Um, honestly I
want more. I want the book. Let's read the book.
Make sure you're getting on that, Jason. I thought this
would be interesting to share on air because it's one
of our first firsthand experience responses regarding the idea of
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getting off the grid or you know, starting your life
anew and it sounds like this just makes me convinced
again not to visit theme parks, even pre COVID, right,
I think you might get identified. I'd look, theme parks
are not for everybody, but they're great fun if they're
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your thing. It made me start thinking about our earlier
conversations regarding how to actually disappear. And I've got to say,
Jay's I'm quite surprised that you were able to make
it for so long with getting that identification. I would
want to know specifically what kind of I D you know,
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what kind of paperwork you were able to obtain. Uh.
You know another thing for anybody trying to get off
the grid, Uh, in the age of the pandemic, it's
going to be much more difficult because so few people
are accepting cash, right, you have to use a card
of some sort often. Yeah, it's true. I mean honestly. Um.
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I had a situation recently where I left my wallet
at home after traveling kind of far to to go
to a store to buy some stuff for my kid.
There's a store that she really likes called five Below
and it's like they sell like anime crap and stuff.
And I realized I didn't know my wallet, and first
I was like, God, that sucks. I don't have any cash,
I don't have my cards, I don't have anything. And
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then I realized everyone takes Apple Pay now, everyone like
Ace Hardware took Apple Pay, This five below Below store
took Apple Pay, and I had it all set up
so I was good to go, but it just goes
to show like that's not even cash less or even
hading more towards like card less. You know, it's pretty
pretty wild, you know, speaking of card less. I am
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very interested in the process Jason took to get that
fake i D um because it sounds like he went
through official channels, at least that's the way I'm reading it.
What do you what do you take from that, Ben, Well,
it's look, I wouldn't be very clear. I am not
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I am not a person who feels like there's a
lot of voter I D fraud or anything like that.
Doing the cost benefit analysis of it, it's it's just
too much trouble to to do it in a way
that would swing the needle in a vote. But if
you're getting a new I D depending on the state,
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depending on the form of identification, it's not as it's
not impossible. It's not as tough as you would think,
you know, as a matter of fact, in some parts
of the world, Uh, in some parts of the US,
it is probably easier to get a a fake I
D than it is to get a copy of some
of your legit stuff. Like if you ever tried to
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replace the Social Security card, which you don't know. Maybe
also also have original copy of your birth certificate to
get that stuff notarized. Like anytime you have a background check,
there's a bunch of stuff you have to try to
get and the system can grind on so slowly. So
maybe there's someone listening out there who just got a fake.
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I d because it was faster and easier to be like,
you know, um Max powers Astronaut with a Secret or whatever.
I was looking at this and thinking about the order
of operations. So I don't know how Jace. I don't
know how Jace did it. But one of the one
of the first things that you would have to do
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is is prepare a great deal. And I think some
people fumble the ball when they start preparing, right Like
it's you. You should tamp down and then disappear your
social media as much as possible. You should break that.
You should start to distance yourself from regularly expected communications
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things like that. Uh, but you should not be preparing
through the use of your Internet browser. Honestly, if you're
really planning to disappear for um like compelling personal reason
or because you are on the lamb they're going to
find your search history and they'll be like, Oh, this
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guy spent you know, eight to twelve months obsessively searching
how to get off the grid in various means. He's
on some forums that we already had our eye on.
We don't think he's dead. I don't want to tell
people how to disappear if they're doing it for bad reasons.
If you're doing it for good reasons, maybe check back
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on an older episode that you've downloaded, and here, perhaps
uh an add about a VPN service that we've talked
about previously. Start doing that kind of thing if you
have to do internet searches. But definitely don't you said
VPN service to watch Netflix from other countries, because that
is not cool, guys. So there's there's one other, one
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other thing that I thought would be of interest to you, Jason,
and then also of interest to our fellow listeners, which is, yes,
the system exists. Statewide surveillance. Nationwide surveillance is a thing.
It's the thing for a reason, but it is not
yet as comprehensive as you might think. It has the
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potential to be comprehensive, and if you become a person
of interest a suspect and are guido. Then you may
get the spotlight shined upon you, and that spotlight will
go very deep. But you might be surprised to learn
how many people in the US are existing in a
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liminal space between the mainstream social financial world and the
off the grid or under the radar life. Like even
here in Atlanta, Georgia, some areas in the latest census
were found to have over fort of the residents living
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as unbanked. That word kind of it means what you
think it means. It's people who do not participate in
the banking system. So you're paid in cash, kind of
existing cash you may have. You may have government assistance
who are on the grid that way, but you're not
That government insistence is not going to a checking account
because you do not have one. Some people out of choice,
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some people because of dire financial straits. If you really
want to disappear, you have to start erasing the footprints
you've already created and there they go back a long, long,
long long way. Yeah, we we we know. Even people
like with lots of money and resources and contacts, it's
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very difficult to scrub that stuff from the internet, you know,
or from from any record of note, very difficult. You know.
We hear all the time about celebrities not liking certain
pictures of themselves, and the internet has a way of remembering,
you know, even if you get it all off. It's
like that hydra uh situation you're always describing bad When
you cut off one head, it grows back three more
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or whatever. You know. Yeah, there there are some interesting
It's just okay, let's think of it as a thought experiment.
There are some interesting things and Jason, uh, Jase did
extraordinarily well. This is a difficult thing to do as
a serious pursuit, but you can. You can read a
lot of I don't know, I would say armchair advice
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on some of this stuff. It's not the same thing
as hearing from someone who has firsthand experience. We know
the basics, uh, And I think you're right, Matt. We
do talk about it in previous episode, so you don't
have to explore it too much. But there is I
wonder if there's anyone who just decided to start over
without a compelling reason, like they were not being pursued
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by law enforcement or persecuted by a government, they were
not in a dangerous, violent, personal relationship. They just woke
up one day and said, you know what, I'm gonna
go by Rupert Now, I'm gonna drive to Manitoba. I'm
gonna go by the name Rupert Peace surname, and I'm
gonna work at a factory. Because if you live in
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modest enough existence and you don't have like a heavy
crime on you, you don't have a wealthy family, then
probably like after one to three years, they'll just consider that.
They'll just think you disappeared in the woods because naturally
you told a bunch of friends that you were going
camping and would be back in two weeks, just to
give you that margin of time, right, Yeah, And and
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you left a canteen and one of your shirts that
was you know, worn for like two or three days
in a row. I had your scent on it, so
the dogs can find it. You went out in the woods,
You've left all that stuff there. Yeah, sure, sure. By
the way, I would pronounce it suriname or surreyname, just
just to make sure people don't catch on that your
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last name is surname, right, right, like Dr Alucard in
every TV series mini series about vampires. Uh, I loved
your drop of arguidos there by the way, ben I
caught that. That was very good. We're slowly do it
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a terrible job learning Portuguese, but we have We have
one more piece of mail, uh that also slight foreshadowing.
Has a rupert involved? What are we talking about? We'll
tell you after a word from our sponsor and we're back.
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And the rupert in question uh for this segment of
a listener mail is one Rupert shell Drake, a very
fascinating figure, a scientist, British biologist who has put forth
some very interesting theories that have often been considered by
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some critics in the scientific community to be pseudoscience, but
absolutely something that has some resonance for many others. And
this one comes from an anonymous listener calling in from
the road. Hey, greetings and salutations. Trucker's love stuff. They
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don't want you to know. Truckers also love um stuff
you should know. And I was just listening to an
episode of that. I'm sure you guys are all bosom buddies,
right wink wink. On morphic resonance, eating a sufficient quantity
of psilocybin might lead you to look into that a
little deeper. Don't eat thee liberty caps. Different kind of
(31:43):
much more toxic poison in those mushrooms. But if you
eat this right Phili cubensis um, even in micro doses,
you might understand what he's talking about. I'm not saying
there's any you know, scientific evidence for the morphick resonance,
but the psilocybin will let you know there's a lot
more out there. We're all in tune somehow. It's like
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the energy ways. Bro oh my god, I love that.
Lit up my my, my day, the ending sound effects
in particular, he gave us. He gave us a hog man.
(32:26):
He gave us a hog That's like the growing up.
That's one of the coolest road wise co signs you
can get. So thank you an non and to you, Yes,
what was that? Was that a reference to something? I
don't know what is it? You just saying we're pals
with with Josh and James. Yeah, that's true, that's true,
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we are um. But yeah, like I said, this is
referencing something. That stuff You should note did an episode
on recently called morphic resonance or the study of morphic fields,
and this is a a field of study. Um that
it was was pioneered by this gentleman named Rupert Sheldrake,
and he is He's very much still alive. There's a
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ted talk from him that you can see. Um he
was educated at Cambridge University. He earned a doctorate in
biochemistry there in nineteen sixty seven. He has been a
fellow and director of studies in biochemistry and cell biology
at Cambridge as well. And much like the interview we
did with Russell targ you know, who was absolutely an
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m I. T um bona fide scientist, he decided that
the realm of study that he was more interested in
was one that maybe was considered by the scientific community
at large to be one not necessarily worth exploring, things
like psychic abilities or um this concept of morphic residents,
which really just refers to sort of the interconnectivity between
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between life forms. UM so, for example, like the ocean
that I could feel you Ben, or you Matt, if
you were staring at me really hard, or if you
were thinking really hard about me, or um explains attempts
to explain the phenomenon behind how dogs are interconnected with
their masters and things like that. Our caller brought up
(34:19):
the idea of how this phenomenon, if it's a thing
could be enhanced by taking psychedelic mushrooms, which you know,
we we actually just talked about in our previous Strange
News episode about how this is something that's being used
to kind of breed connectivity between people and like the
idea of you know, end of life experiences and and
(34:44):
passing on to the other side or however you want
to look at it. Religion or spirituality, don't have to
enter into it at all. But yeah, this guy, Um
shell Drake has been much maligned by others in the field.
For example, UM one particular critic, John Maddox, who is
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the editor of Nature, the journal Nature, referred to shell
Drake's ideas as quote heresy and said that they deserved
to be condemned. I disagree, disagree. I'm going back in
here because I have I feel like I've experienced morphic residence.
Maybe that's why this whole thing exists, because it's sometimes
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you feel like it. But it may also exist because
there's something to it and to connect that world with
our fungal friends over here, the uh psilocybin, the magic mushrooms.
I just wanted to bring up something with you guys
that I know we've talked about a little bit before,
but thinking about the interconnectivity of a my celial network
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and the way communication occurs, the distances that it can
travel um just with information passing underground unseen by anyone else.
Just try laying across um where one area of the network,
like when we're talking miles and miles away, knows what's
happening or gets a signal about what's happening from the
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other side. It's an information super highway. It is fungal
internet essentially. That's how it works. It's not hyperbole. And
they're everywhere, everywhere below our feet. My celial networks exist,
and you know, our brains are doing the same thing.
We've got these very very uh specialized feelers and senses
(36:35):
that are able to experience the world externally. But ultimately
it's it's our own, you know, network up in that
cranium of ours that is sending very similar signals to
the mycelial network and experiencing externally in a lot of
ways that that they do too. I don't know, I
don't know. I don't know what I'm s getting at here.
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I just there's some connection here between the network the mushroom,
and then the way humans brains function and then interact
with one another. Right, Well, the brain itself is just
a network of cells communicating with each other through electrochemical means.
So the process, of course, the process is different. I
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think what one important distinction of what shel Drake proposes
is that there is not necessarily a physical connection necessitated.
So the my celial networks do have physical connection. So
the idea here then is that uh, all organisms, all
things that we understand is living, are connected in a
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way that does not necessitate a physical medium, and that
this connection can be a two way process similar to UM.
I mean, let's say the T word. It's it's a
kind of idea of telepathy. And you know, maybe maybe
it sounds crazy because there isn't a percent accepted proof
(38:05):
of telepathy. But I would also say we're still learning
a lot about plants, Like we just kind of figured
out that plants talked to each other, some of them
scream when they die, you know, like more humans are
not as unique as we think. UM, I completely agree.
And there's a really cool blog post on Scientific American
(38:26):
by someone named John Horgan, who himself is a is
a is a science writer, and he presented at an
event or some kind of conference with shell Drake, and
while was kind of skeptical of him, in interacting with
him personally, really kind of gave his work a second
look and a second thought. And he um had some
(38:48):
really interesting things to say about their shared uh fast,
I don't know they're they're shared philosophy. I guess on
the types of research that shell Drake does. UM. He
described their my and set as this and the writer
of this blog post wrote a book called The End
of Science UM and he says, we both this is
shel Drake speaking of him and Organ's kind of shared philosophy.
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We both agree that science is at present limited by
assumptions that restrict inquiry, and we agree that there are
major unsolved problems about consciousness, cosmology, and other areas of science.
I am proposing testable hypotheses that could take us forward
and open up new frontiers of scientific inquiry. I think
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that's spot on. I mean, we don't know how the
brain works exactly. We we we know how the brain
works as an organ sort of, but we don't know
how consciousness works. We don't know what it is. This
this oneness that makes us a human being, you know,
with with feelings, and we don't understand any of that stuff.
So the idea that that stuff isn't worth studying seems
(39:55):
so shortsighted to me, you know. Yeah, yeah, I think oftentimes,
and people when people say skepticism is the default position,
they're conflating that with a refusal to investigate something. Right,
critical thinking demands that you actually get in the weeds
(40:19):
about stuff. Maybe that's not the best turn of phrase
to use, since I basically said I I think plants
might have some sort of weird consciousness. But so there's
another scientific American post by Michael Schermer, publisher of skeptic
dot com, and he also wrote a book called The
Science of Good and Evil, and he has an interesting
(40:40):
note about morphic residence. Of course, he's coming from a
very very skeptical place, but he has an interchange with
shel Drake about the folks who dismissed the existence or
the proposed existence of the morphic field. And I wanted
to read this. I wanted to get you guys take
so after LA, now, all the problems skeptics would have
(41:02):
with the concept of morphic field the way it's been
tested in the past. ChIL Drake responds that skeptics dampen
the morphic field themselves, whereas believers enhance it. And he
said about one skeptic, he said, quote, perhaps his negative
expectations consciously or unconsciously influence the way he looked at
(41:23):
the subjects. So maybe it's difficult because then that makes
it difficult to disprove or prove anything. It works because
I believed in it, or it didn't work because you
didn't believe in it, not because it's not real, you
know what I mean? Yeah, and you hear that. I
don't want to say excuse, but that reasoning behind a
lot of magic, magic thinking things where even something as
(41:49):
simil as a Weigia board, if you if you believe,
then it's going to happen. Um, I don't know. It
feels like the double slit experiment of bit with particle physics.
It also it also feels like a bit of the
other mind over matter conversations we've had in the past.
We know mental state is a critical piece of recovery
(42:12):
from grievous injury, right. We know that the state of
your mind affects your body in real, quantitative and predictable
at times ways. But but to your point, no, it doesn't. Yeah,
it does seem like whether whether or not people feel
they can easily easily dismiss this, it does seem shortsighted
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to say, we assume we can dismiss this, therefore we
shall not consider it, you know what I mean, that's
very head in the sand. Well, it also would discount
so much scientific innovation and folks that, you know, question
whether the Earth was flat. That was a radical idea
at the time, you know. And now, I mean, obviously
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there's still a handful of folks that think that, but
largely we've pushed path to that, and and that's helped
inform a lot of other things that we know and
understand about the universe and about about the planet and
about you know, humankind. So if the person, if there
was never that person that made that push and was like, no,
you know what, I don't care what the you know,
the status quo says, I'm gonna keep pushing. And I
(43:18):
think that's what the Shell Drake guy is. And again
also that Russell targ which is one of my favorite
interviews we've ever done. I'm talking about his book Third
Eye Spies and the CIA program of Remote Viewing that
he was instrumental in, and I swear to god he
had to have been the guy that Egan Spangler and
Ghostbusters was based on. Looks just like him and has
the similar kind of vibes um. But you know, uh,
(43:40):
people get called a quack until they're called, you know, genius.
I think we should remember too, that the evolution of science,
what acute phrase there is riddled with stories of scientists
being criticized, defamed, hunted, church killed because they wanted to
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investigate something that they were either one not allowed to
investigate or they found something in their investigation that they
were not allowed to prove. Never forget. This same species
not too long ago killed the guy who figured out
that you can save lives by washing your hands, Ignaz
(44:26):
semul Vice. He just said, hey, maybe you know, not
even everybody. Don't everybody wash your hands. If you're a
doctor and you're gonna do surgery, then wash your hands.
And people treated that like it was crazy. They literally
put him in his in a sane asylum and beat
the snot out of him and he died there totally.
Or even we talked about the other day, um on
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an episode that may or may not yet. Uh. You know,
how the government can you know, redact a patent, you know,
if they think it's something that's going to quote unquote
you know, threatened national security or whatever for their reason
they might be. I don't know that they have to
even explain it super well. They can, you know, basically
put the kai bosh on someone's invention, someone's intellectual property
(45:10):
and and and essentially take it from them, you know,
because they think it's a threat in some way to
some form of this perception of national security or the
greater good, you know. Yeah. Yeah. However, please don't mistake
this as me saying I'm one on board with Rupert
Sheldrake's work. I haven't read a lot of his work.
(45:32):
I don't know what ton of stuff about him. I
think we have many, many things to discover about psilocybin,
for sure, and the human brain and how it how
it communicates what the hardware and the software is. Right.
But like, here's an example to really make shell Drake understandable,
the concept of the morphic field. So, if the morphic
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field exists and it works in the way that shel
Drake pictures it. Then if you get up one set
atter day and you want to do a crossword puzzle,
the crossword puzzle will be easier later in the day
because other people have been doing the crossword puzzle and
their collective success is resonating through the more fake field.
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Like that's an example of how this would work. Does
that make sense? Hmm? Totally? I mean it, yes, that
the example makes sense, but it's a tough thing to
wrap your head around, I guess as in that could
be true absolutely, Matt. And also just to to piggyback
on something that Ben says, I, I too, have not
really dived deep into this man's work. This was my
(46:39):
first encounter with him looking into this for this listener
mail response, and I'm fascinated. I think he has some
very pithy things to say about what we literally just
talked about about the ability for you know, scientists to
explore things that maybe the establishment of a scientific community
would you know, sort of stick their nose up at that.
(47:00):
That in and of itself is enough for me to
want to dig deeper. But this is a really good
kind of encapsulation of his whole philosophy um and I
think it drives a lot with what we were just
talking about. He says, science believes animals and plants are
all just unconscious automatons. The whole of nature is unconscious
except for human beings. We're the only smart guys in
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the whole universe and somehow figured out how everything works,
and that means through science we can manipulate nature and
improve products for corporations, says then shel Drake pauses and says,
Descartes believe the only kind of mind was the conscious mind.
Then Freud reinvented the unconscious. Then Young said it wasn't
(47:43):
just a personal unconscious, but a collective unconscious. Morphic residence
shows us that our very souls are connected with those
of others and bound up with the world around us.
Existence of the soul. I know it sounds horrible though.
That's my first that's my person epic. But I think
you're right, that is that is a great quote. I
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want to also say a non thank you for ha ha,
thank you for calling us. We have to mention the
hundred monkey effect. That's the idea that a a new
behavior can somehow appear to spread rapidly through unexplained means
from a single group to every other related group once
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there's this kind of critical mass of cognizance or knowledge
of a task. It's called the hundredth monkey thing because
of this study that was conducted in the fifties on
Japanese monkeys, and they saw okay, So the the idea
is that there are these unrelated populations of the same
(48:47):
kind of living thing, right, and at some point a
few of them say, I'm just making up stuff here.
At some point a few of them learn to baby
wash food or maybe to hunt with tools like the
stab fish or something with a stick, and they teach
this to other members of their group. And then eventually,
for no discernible reason, a group of the same species,
(49:09):
maybe across the country, across the world, suddenly appears to
have that knowledge. How did it get there? Right, It's
a mystery, but I think that would apply. That would
be something worth exploring for fans of more FIC residents.
I don't know, have you guys heard of that theory? Now,
we've talked. We talked about it on the show before. Yes, Yes,
(49:31):
I've definitely heard of this. Um. Yeah, and I think
it was the last year when we were talking about
No that wasn't the stoned apes theory there we did
one on magic mushrooms and the and Jesus Um. I
cannot recall exactly when maybe somebody out there listening remembers.
(49:53):
It also reminds me of the stoned ape theory that
Terence McKenna always talks about Um. By the way, Terrence
McKenna and and shel Drake, we're pals um Terence mackin
of the kind of pioneering psycho, not the notion that
you know, it was the eighth, that eighth, the psychedelic
mushroom that gave him more visual acuity and connection with
the surroundings to become a better hunter Um and all
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of that stuff. So it does remind me of that.
And to be clear, like morphic residents, the concept of
the hundred monkey is not accepted in the Ivory towers,
it's not accepted in academia, it's not accepted by mainstream science.
It's a matter of fact. The test that the urban
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legend was based off there the colony of monkeys, there
was only about fifty nine I think, so there actually
was no physical hundredth monkey. But how cool would it
be if it's true? How cool to be if there
were Oh man, well, hey, this has been a great,
great episode. Guys, thank you everybody who wrote to us,
who called in this is this has been fabulous. I
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think it Who was it Schmidt? Yes, you're right, Matt.
Thank you to Schmidt. Thank you to Jason, Thank you too,
Anonymous for calling in for writing to us. As always,
we can't wait to hear from you. Code named Doc
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a lot of strange stuff. I don't know about you all,
but I I love these and I'm especially fond of
the clarifications and corrections we get because it helps keep
the show honest. So thanks to everybody wrote into us
about anarchy and about the origin of skinheads. And thanks also,
(01:08):
oh my gosh, to the three people who wrote into
us today. There's some amazing things here and there's another
thing that has me honestly quite concerned. Ben. I'm sorry
I didn't see those emails. What do we get wrong
about the origins of skinheads and anarchy? On the anarchy front?
You know, uh, we were largely being humorous with the
(01:28):
idea that some people just want to watch the world burn.
Obviously that is not the case for all anarchists who
have various different names and motivations. Uh. And you know,
maybe advocating for a peaceful transition to anarchy. Uh. And
then in the term in terms of skinheads, I thought
I had said this on air, but it's uh, skinheads
(01:51):
get conflated with neo Nazis because they kind of co
opted that movement or that aesthetic in the nineteen seventies,
I want to say. And before then, you know, skinheads
were working class people associated with you know, two tone
culture and stuff like that. Oh, I'm almost positive we
(02:13):
said that on the show, and clarify that. I think
I sort of got it wrong. And then you chimed
in and clarify the actual origin of the skinhead movement
and how it was co opted into that kind of
more what it's associated with now, which is that neo Nazis,
because we're also talking about sharps and the idea of
skinheads against racial prejudice and all I remember this. Yeah,
And also switching gears here, shout out to the specialist,
(02:36):
let's call him who wrote in about the Cursed Submarine
episode gave us some amazing insight from somebody who really
understands that kind of situation and maybe had some knowledge.
Shout out to you, unnamed person. We may have to
bring that up in a later episode. And that's what
(02:57):
we're doing all day today, celebrating you, the most important
part of this show. So we're going to get right
into it with our first message from someone we're going
to call Schmidt. Hey, I listened to you guys to
show a lot. My name is Lusol Schmidt. I listened
to one of your previous EPs sometimes the last year
about UFO crash and in banking sixties and off the
(03:20):
coast of Nova Scotia, and I wondered if you guys
had heard about the jack Fish First Nation UFO crash
that happened here in Canada. Our government quickly covered it up,
which is kind of crazy because they happened to be
on indigenous land when it happened, and they kicked up
(03:41):
the media and wouldn't allow the indigenous elders to come
and look, and they said it was some sort of
military test for new gear. But we don't develop our
own planes in Canada so I highly doubt that. I
thought you guys might be interested and have a nice day.
Hell well, well, an unidentified flying vehicle that crashed on
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First Nations soil in Manitoba. WHOA, this sounds amazing. It's
right up our alley. It's exactly the kind of thing
we want to look into. And guess what I did
some looking into this. I did do the research. However,
Schmidt and everyone else listening, I couldn't find the specific
thing that Schmidt was talking about here jack Fish, First
(04:29):
Nation UFO crash two thousand, two eleven. I did find, however,
a very interesting UFO crash or possible UFO crash that
occurred in a very similar area, or very close at
least in and we found an article here from Mysterious Universe,
(04:50):
not always the best, worst, but a great place to
find stories like this. The title is UFO crash reported
in Manitoba, denied by Canadian forces. So let's just talk
about what happened here in jack Head Reservation in Manitoba, Canada,
not jack Fish. As Schmidt pointed out, there was a
possible UFO crash into Lake Winnipeg, and it's crazy. In
(05:16):
this article you can see images of trucks and police
vehicles showing up to the place where this UFO crashed
into the lake. There you can hear stories about people
who were there, who witnessed the aftermath, and there are
a few witnesses who say they saw something enter the lake.
(05:38):
This is what they say. They saw a quote large
disk that crashed into the lake that was then pulled
out by these military and police authorities. WHOA, whoa. Can
you imagine witnessing that a disc shaped craft entering Lake
Winnipeg and then later that same disc shaped object being
(06:01):
pulled out by authorities. It feels like an episode of
X Files. Yeah, or an episode of stuff they don't
want you to know. I mean, this is it's It's
interesting because typically in reports of unidentified flying aircraft or
unidentified aerial phenomenon, unidentified flying objects, whatever you wanna call them,
(06:21):
in most reports they are seeing once right there, seeing
going by or hovering in the air. They're rarely seen,
you know, crashing and then getting pulled back out. Schmidt,
you raise a fantastic point here in your message to us.
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It is true Canada has the ability to license some jets,
like fighter jets. For instance, if we're talking about military craft,
but I don't think they have the budget to domestically
create a lot of military harry craft. This also reminds
me a little bit of the story of the Avro Arrow,
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which might be a story for a different day, but
I don't know. It seems completely reasonable that suppressed military
technology would be confused with the UFO. I mean it
is a UFO, yes, absolutely, and we talked about that
numerous times on this show, the similarity between unacknowledged aircraft
and unacknowledged operations of aircraft by militaries, and how that
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gets confused with, you know, an extraterrestrial vehicle of some
sort all the time, and sometimes on purpose, so so
that the waters get a little muddied about what the
military is actually testing. I would say that Canadian forces
do work closely with US forces when it comes to
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aircraft and aerial intelligence and training and testing of aircraft,
so that's a possibility there. Let's jump to a Wednesday,
February report that was posted on Facebook by someone named Brent.
This comes from that Mysterious Universe article. Here's the Facebook post.
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UFO crash reported on the Jackhead Reserve in Manitoba, Canada.
Apparently the Canadian military have vehicles lined up on north shore.
They're threatening anybody who tries to take pictures. Lots of eyewitnesses.
There's a round object being hauled across the lake, being
pulled by snowmobiles in a bomba deer. Something was seen
going down by eight fishermen. They reported it. Why would
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they not let the media know if it was a
plane crash. There was also another report on social media
that again this is coming from social media. It is
not verified news, right, it's not corroborated. But here's what
it was stated. Apparently a disc shaped craft was seen
crashing through the ice on the lake. At least one
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person got photographic evidence. It has since been detained by
the Canadian military. Interesting. It's very men in black, right, Yeah,
you know, you have to wonder about how mundane the
story might be. One thing that's interesting in a lot
of events that later turn out to be cover ups
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by a military or by a government is sometimes the
motivation for the cover up seems like it wouldn't be
that big of a deal to you know, someone who's
not in the government, like, hey, just say that you
were testing a new kind of uh vertical takeoff device
and that you still have more testing to do. That
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that should be fine, instead of making us think there's
this enormous conspiracy using outdated extra terrestrial technology that landed
in prehistoric times, you know what I mean. But we
have to remember that inside that bubble of military testing
there are valid concerns. The last thing they want is
a geopolitical rival knowing exactly where they are on a
(10:04):
development timeline, even if they're ahead, even if they're behind.
You want to have that kind of fog of war.
You want to obscure your progress. You know, it's funny.
We we had a little off Mike discussion about the
distinction between jack Head and jack Fish. And I actually
found an article for a region of Canada called Prince Albert.
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It's a website called p a now Prince Albert Now,
and it says Saskatchewan UFO reports in include Jackfish Lake
UH and Prince Albert. And it's just talking about specifically
a sighting on June eighteen. I'm sorry, I said two
thousand eight two thousand eighteen UM near this body of
water called Jackfish Lake. UM. The cier's reported having quote UH,
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dreams and spiritual attacks. Then on July five, there was
another report in the area of someone seeing a silver
orb um hovering in the sky much like you were
describing map near Jackfish Lake around ten in the morning.
Point being is that the crux of this article is
that that this area has been kind of a hot
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spot for UFO sightings, and in Canada in particular, in
two thousand and eighteen, UM there were over nine d
UFO sightings um and that was published in a report
from UFO Ufology Research, which is a group in Manitoba
that publishes you know, data surrounding UFO sightings in the
region UM And you know, while similarly to these kinds
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of reports here, some of them are more difficult to explain. Uh.
Many of them are easily dismissed as just you know,
sightings of lights in the sky, star like objects or
distant lights, etcetera. But the classic kind of flying saucer
disc shaped craft was only present in twenty four of
the as reports. Uh. And that this article suggests that
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perhaps the classic model is not in vogue anymore, which
is interesting. But yeah, I mean, um, it's pretty interesting
to the way this report categorizes the sightings. It has
a quote, strangeness factor graded from one to nine um
and the average strangeness factor in the report was a
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four point four. Uh so, yeah, it's it's certainly become
kind of a hotbed of this kind of this kind
of stuff to the point where even some kind of
UFO enthusiasts or coming to the area to kind of
try to have sightings of their own. And for more
information on that report, uh, check out our earlier episodes
(12:50):
on the Shack Harbor incident. Check out also Can You
Become a Ufologist? That ufology episode especially will explain why
we see a preponderance of ratings or metrics like strangeness factor. Yep,
check it out. It's a Scatchewan, man, there's all kinds
of stuff going on in the skies over there. They
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ought to call it sasquatchoues stand am never mind. Hey,
if you're in Saskatchewan or in any of these areas
and you've seen something maybe in Manitoba, jack fish, jackhead,
make sure you call us a right to us, just
like Schmidt did. Hey, before we move on, we got
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to let you know that there is an official response
to what occurred, or a retort maybe from the Canadian
forces the military there. So we've got a report here
from CBC. It's Canadian Broadcasting Corporation maybe or company. You
know what it is. If you're Canadian, it's the CBC.
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So um. The Canadian Forces responded and said on Wednesday night,
several people, it's say they saw a bright light in
the sky that there was some kind of UFO. The
rumors became stronger when photos were posted of the actual
Canadian Forces all those vehicles in the area that we
mentioned on that Facebook post, and people were claiming there
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was a UFO was a crash site. But according to
Lieutenant Colonel Paul Davies, it was not a UFO at all.
He says it was an Arctic Response Company group training
exercise that occurred on Lake Winnipeg. He said, quote, there's
no aliens, just my friends in the Air Force who
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are out there helping us on this exercise. I have
the commander of that Air Force contingent sitting right beside me,
and you know, he assures us that that was not
a UFO, but that was him. I think that's a
very conversational approach and I enjoyed hearing it that way.
He also goes on to say that the bright light
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people reported did occur, but that it came from an
airplane that just takes off very quickly. And he says,
from a distance to me, it looked like it was
going straight up in the air, but it was not.
It was just us out there playing our games. I
love the conversational tone. And that's why I mentioned vertical
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takeoff craft because you know those those do exist, right um,
oh yeah, vertical takeoff and landing and uh, you have
to land the plane. So it seems like there's an explanation.
But without more detail, of course, people are going to
insist that the Arctic Response Company group was up to
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something nefarious. Yeah, and just this is a little more
from the article. It says around a hundred and fifty
military personnel took part in that exercise they called Exercise
Arctic Bison. Isn't that awesome? Exercise Arctic Bison. Remember this
occurred in um and there are several groups involved, Canadian
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Brigade groups, second Battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry,
the fourth Canadian Ranger Patrol Group and the four Squadron
of the Royal Canadian Air Force. Lots of groups involved
in a big old exercise. Reminds me of what was
that one Ben, It's exercise in the US around we
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were looking at jade Helm. Jade Helm M. Yes, we
do need to do an update on that also before
we move on. I feel like it's very important for
us to state these sorts of exercises happened pretty constantly,
and if you think about it across the globe, if
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you look at the training exercises, you look at the
war games as they're sometimes called, the field experiments and
so on, there is a ton of activity out there,
and honestly, in the US, we don't hear about a
lot of it. We don't hear a lot about you know, uh,
technological experiments happening in other parts of the world. Right, No,
we don't, but we'd like to hear about it. So
(17:07):
if you're in the know again, give us a call,
write us an email, do what you gotta do. We
received an anonymous email very recently. There was encrypted both ways,
super secure for the sender and I haven't even opened
what happened with that. You guys there has a little
back and forth and we all were a little freaked
out by this thing. Well, it we maybe should be,
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but at the same time, it's great. We're gonna open
that email, take a look at it. Anybody who wants
to send us things securely, there are ways to do it.
Check it out online, and then send us anything you want,
especially if it's a little sensitive. We're interested. And speaking
of that correspondence and anonymity, that's a pretty good segue
(17:52):
into our next story, which will explore. After a word
from our sponsor and we are back to shake things
up a little bit, We're going to explore an email next.
This email is from someone who has chosen to identify
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themselves as Jace. Here is what Jace says. Just listen
to the episode that had both the pseudo side and
the guy that was using such an elaborate disguise to
steal money out of those casinos. You can call me Jace.
I'm a big fan of your show. Over a decade ago,
I made a stupid decision to rob a bank and
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had to go on the run. I thought of faking
my own death, but did not have the time or
resources to do so. Instead, Jace says, I went on
the run to a different part of the country and
began using an alias and posing as being from a
different country, using an accent from that country as well.
Well done, James, I would love to hear it. Jas continues,
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saying I was able to get a fake I d
saying I was from that country and with my new
name to start my life over. It was surprisingly scary
how easy it was to do this physically, especially with
the FBI and other law enforcement agencies scouring the US
for me. Mentally, however, it was incredibly arduous. There's the
stress of always looking over your shoulder. One of the
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hardest parts of leaving was severing all ties with loved ones.
It pained me terribly and my family as well. I
was on the run for almost a year when by
a strange stroke of coincidence I ran into some old
family friends from my original life in a theme park
states away from where they lived. Being friends of the family,
they obviously knew I was wanted for the bank robbery.
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The authorities were notified. I was given five years and
have since done the time, paid the money back, completed
probation with no problem. Congratulations Jason, and am now in
the process of writing a book based on the true events.
Keep up the great work you guys, do keep us
updated on the Pentagon's UFO situation. We appreciate you, Jace. Jason. Also,
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first off, this is an email right then, Just like
a voicemail or an email, it's tough to verify sources.
Jason did provide some proof. I did a little bit
of due diligence, and this looks legit. I don't know
if you guys saw the proof that Jason provided. Yeah,
the image what looks like a lineup? M yeah, uh,
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really really interesting stuff here, Jason. Thanks for listening and
telling us about what what you did. Um, honestly I
want more. I want the book. Let's read the book.
Make sure you're getting on that, Jason. I thought this
would be interesting to share on air because it's one
of our first firsthand experience responses regarding the idea of
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getting off the grid or you know, starting your life
anew and it sounds like this just makes me convinced
again not to visit theme parks, even pre COVID, right,
I think you might get identified. I'd look, theme parks
are not for everybody, but they're great fun if they're
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your thing. It made me start thinking about our earlier
conversations regarding how to actually disappear. And I've got to say,
Jay's I'm quite surprised that you were able to make
it for so long with getting that identification. I would
want to know specifically what kind of I D you know,
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what kind of paperwork you were able to obtain. Uh.
You know another thing for anybody trying to get off
the grid, Uh, in the age of the pandemic, it's
going to be much more difficult because so few people
are accepting cash, right, you have to use a card
of some sort often. Yeah, it's true. I mean honestly. Um.
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I had a situation recently where I left my wallet
at home after traveling kind of far to to go
to a store to buy some stuff for my kid.
There's a store that she really likes called five Below
and it's like they sell like anime crap and stuff.
And I realized I didn't know my wallet, and first
I was like, God, that sucks. I don't have any cash,
I don't have my cards, I don't have anything. And
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then I realized everyone takes Apple Pay now, everyone like
Ace Hardware took Apple Pay, This five below Below store
took Apple Pay, and I had it all set up
so I was good to go, but it just goes
to show like that's not even cash less or even
hading more towards like card less. You know, it's pretty
pretty wild, you know, speaking of card less. I am
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very interested in the process Jason took to get that
fake i D um because it sounds like he went
through official channels, at least that's the way I'm reading it.
What do you what do you take from that, Ben, Well,
it's look, I wouldn't be very clear. I am not
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I am not a person who feels like there's a
lot of voter I D fraud or anything like that.
Doing the cost benefit analysis of it, it's it's just
too much trouble to to do it in a way
that would swing the needle in a vote. But if
you're getting a new I D depending on the state,
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depending on the form of identification, it's not as it's
not impossible. It's not as tough as you would think,
you know, as a matter of fact, in some parts
of the world, Uh, in some parts of the US,
it is probably easier to get a a fake I
D than it is to get a copy of some
of your legit stuff. Like if you ever tried to
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replace the Social Security card, which you don't know. Maybe
also also have original copy of your birth certificate to
get that stuff notarized. Like anytime you have a background check,
there's a bunch of stuff you have to try to
get and the system can grind on so slowly. So
maybe there's someone listening out there who just got a fake.
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I d because it was faster and easier to be like,
you know, um Max powers Astronaut with a Secret or whatever.
I was looking at this and thinking about the order
of operations. So I don't know how Jace. I don't
know how Jace did it. But one of the one
of the first things that you would have to do
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is is prepare a great deal. And I think some
people fumble the ball when they start preparing, right Like
it's you. You should tamp down and then disappear your
social media as much as possible. You should break that.
You should start to distance yourself from regularly expected communications
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things like that. Uh, but you should not be preparing
through the use of your Internet browser. Honestly, if you're
really planning to disappear for um like compelling personal reason
or because you are on the lamb they're going to
find your search history and they'll be like, Oh, this
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guy spent you know, eight to twelve months obsessively searching
how to get off the grid in various means. He's
on some forums that we already had our eye on.
We don't think he's dead. I don't want to tell
people how to disappear if they're doing it for bad reasons.
If you're doing it for good reasons, maybe check back
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on an older episode that you've downloaded, and here, perhaps
uh an add about a VPN service that we've talked
about previously. Start doing that kind of thing if you
have to do internet searches. But definitely don't you said
VPN service to watch Netflix from other countries, because that
is not cool, guys. So there's there's one other, one
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other thing that I thought would be of interest to you, Jason,
and then also of interest to our fellow listeners, which is, yes,
the system exists. Statewide surveillance. Nationwide surveillance is a thing.
It's the thing for a reason, but it is not
yet as comprehensive as you might think. It has the
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potential to be comprehensive, and if you become a person
of interest a suspect and are guido. Then you may
get the spotlight shined upon you, and that spotlight will
go very deep. But you might be surprised to learn
how many people in the US are existing in a
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liminal space between the mainstream social financial world and the
off the grid or under the radar life. Like even
here in Atlanta, Georgia, some areas in the latest census
were found to have over fort of the residents living
(26:58):
as unbanked. That word kind of it means what you
think it means. It's people who do not participate in
the banking system. So you're paid in cash, kind of
existing cash you may have. You may have government assistance
who are on the grid that way, but you're not
That government insistence is not going to a checking account
because you do not have one. Some people out of choice,
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some people because of dire financial straits. If you really
want to disappear, you have to start erasing the footprints
you've already created and there they go back a long, long,
long long way. Yeah, we we we know. Even people
like with lots of money and resources and contacts, it's
(27:42):
very difficult to scrub that stuff from the internet, you know,
or from from any record of note, very difficult. You know.
We hear all the time about celebrities not liking certain
pictures of themselves, and the internet has a way of remembering,
you know, even if you get it all off. It's
like that hydra uh situation you're always describing bad When
you cut off one head, it grows back three more
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or whatever. You know. Yeah, there there are some interesting
It's just okay, let's think of it as a thought experiment.
There are some interesting things and Jason, uh, Jase did
extraordinarily well. This is a difficult thing to do as
a serious pursuit, but you can. You can read a
lot of I don't know, I would say armchair advice
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on some of this stuff. It's not the same thing
as hearing from someone who has firsthand experience. We know
the basics, uh, And I think you're right, Matt. We
do talk about it in previous episode, so you don't
have to explore it too much. But there is I
wonder if there's anyone who just decided to start over
without a compelling reason, like they were not being pursued
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by law enforcement or persecuted by a government, they were
not in a dangerous, violent, personal relationship. They just woke
up one day and said, you know what, I'm gonna
go by Rupert Now, I'm gonna drive to Manitoba. I'm
gonna go by the name Rupert Peace surname, and I'm
gonna work at a factory. Because if you live in
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modest enough existence and you don't have like a heavy
crime on you, you don't have a wealthy family, then
probably like after one to three years, they'll just consider that.
They'll just think you disappeared in the woods because naturally
you told a bunch of friends that you were going
camping and would be back in two weeks, just to
give you that margin of time, right, Yeah, And and
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you left a canteen and one of your shirts that
was you know, worn for like two or three days
in a row. I had your scent on it, so
the dogs can find it. You went out in the woods,
You've left all that stuff there. Yeah, sure, sure. By
the way, I would pronounce it suriname or surreyname, just
just to make sure people don't catch on that your
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last name is surname, right, right, like Dr Alucard in
every TV series mini series about vampires. Uh, I loved
your drop of arguidos there by the way, ben I
caught that. That was very good. We're slowly do it
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a terrible job learning Portuguese, but we have We have
one more piece of mail, uh that also slight foreshadowing.
Has a rupert involved? What are we talking about? We'll
tell you after a word from our sponsor and we're back.
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And the rupert in question uh for this segment of
a listener mail is one Rupert shell Drake, a very
fascinating figure, a scientist, British biologist who has put forth
some very interesting theories that have often been considered by
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some critics in the scientific community to be pseudoscience, but
absolutely something that has some resonance for many others. And
this one comes from an anonymous listener calling in from
the road. Hey, greetings and salutations. Trucker's love stuff. They
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don't want you to know. Truckers also love um stuff
you should know. And I was just listening to an
episode of that. I'm sure you guys are all bosom buddies,
right wink wink. On morphic resonance, eating a sufficient quantity
of psilocybin might lead you to look into that a
little deeper. Don't eat thee liberty caps. Different kind of
(31:43):
much more toxic poison in those mushrooms. But if you
eat this right Phili cubensis um, even in micro doses,
you might understand what he's talking about. I'm not saying
there's any you know, scientific evidence for the morphick resonance,
but the psilocybin will let you know there's a lot
more out there. We're all in tune somehow. It's like
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the energy ways. Bro oh my god, I love that.
Lit up my my, my day, the ending sound effects
in particular, he gave us. He gave us a hog man.
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He gave us a hog That's like the growing up.
That's one of the coolest road wise co signs you
can get. So thank you an non and to you, Yes,
what was that? Was that a reference to something? I
don't know what is it? You just saying we're pals
with with Josh and James. Yeah, that's true, that's true,
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we are um. But yeah, like I said, this is
referencing something. That stuff You should note did an episode
on recently called morphic resonance or the study of morphic fields,
and this is a a field of study. Um that
it was was pioneered by this gentleman named Rupert Sheldrake,
and he is He's very much still alive. There's a
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ted talk from him that you can see. Um he
was educated at Cambridge University. He earned a doctorate in
biochemistry there in nineteen sixty seven. He has been a
fellow and director of studies in biochemistry and cell biology
at Cambridge as well. And much like the interview we
did with Russell targ you know, who was absolutely an
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m I. T um bona fide scientist, he decided that
the realm of study that he was more interested in
was one that maybe was considered by the scientific community
at large to be one not necessarily worth exploring, things
like psychic abilities or um this concept of morphic residents,
which really just refers to sort of the interconnectivity between
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between life forms. UM so, for example, like the ocean
that I could feel you Ben, or you Matt, if
you were staring at me really hard, or if you
were thinking really hard about me, or um explains attempts
to explain the phenomenon behind how dogs are interconnected with
their masters and things like that. Our caller brought up
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the idea of how this phenomenon, if it's a thing
could be enhanced by taking psychedelic mushrooms, which you know,
we we actually just talked about in our previous Strange
News episode about how this is something that's being used
to kind of breed connectivity between people and like the
idea of you know, end of life experiences and and
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passing on to the other side or however you want
to look at it. Religion or spirituality, don't have to
enter into it at all. But yeah, this guy, Um
shell Drake has been much maligned by others in the field.
For example, UM one particular critic, John Maddox, who is
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the editor of Nature, the journal Nature, referred to shell
Drake's ideas as quote heresy and said that they deserved
to be condemned. I disagree, disagree. I'm going back in
here because I have I feel like I've experienced morphic residence.
Maybe that's why this whole thing exists, because it's sometimes
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you feel like it. But it may also exist because
there's something to it and to connect that world with
our fungal friends over here, the uh psilocybin, the magic mushrooms.
I just wanted to bring up something with you guys
that I know we've talked about a little bit before,
but thinking about the interconnectivity of a my celial network
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and the way communication occurs, the distances that it can
travel um just with information passing underground unseen by anyone else.
Just try laying across um where one area of the network,
like when we're talking miles and miles away, knows what's
happening or gets a signal about what's happening from the
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other side. It's an information super highway. It is fungal
internet essentially. That's how it works. It's not hyperbole. And
they're everywhere, everywhere below our feet. My celial networks exist,
and you know, our brains are doing the same thing.
We've got these very very uh specialized feelers and senses
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that are able to experience the world externally. But ultimately
it's it's our own, you know, network up in that
cranium of ours that is sending very similar signals to
the mycelial network and experiencing externally in a lot of
ways that that they do too. I don't know, I
don't know. I don't know what I'm s getting at here.
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I just there's some connection here between the network the mushroom,
and then the way humans brains function and then interact
with one another. Right, Well, the brain itself is just
a network of cells communicating with each other through electrochemical means.
So the process, of course, the process is different. I
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think what one important distinction of what shel Drake proposes
is that there is not necessarily a physical connection necessitated.
So the my celial networks do have physical connection. So
the idea here then is that uh, all organisms, all
things that we understand is living, are connected in a
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way that does not necessitate a physical medium, and that
this connection can be a two way process similar to UM.
I mean, let's say the T word. It's it's a
kind of idea of telepathy. And you know, maybe maybe
it sounds crazy because there isn't a percent accepted proof
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of telepathy. But I would also say we're still learning
a lot about plants, Like we just kind of figured
out that plants talked to each other, some of them
scream when they die, you know, like more humans are
not as unique as we think. UM, I completely agree.
And there's a really cool blog post on Scientific American
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by someone named John Horgan, who himself is a is
a is a science writer, and he presented at an
event or some kind of conference with shell Drake, and
while was kind of skeptical of him, in interacting with
him personally, really kind of gave his work a second
look and a second thought. And he um had some
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really interesting things to say about their shared uh fast,
I don't know they're they're shared philosophy. I guess on
the types of research that shell Drake does. UM. He
described their my and set as this and the writer
of this blog post wrote a book called The End
of Science UM and he says, we both this is
shel Drake speaking of him and Organ's kind of shared philosophy.
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We both agree that science is at present limited by
assumptions that restrict inquiry, and we agree that there are
major unsolved problems about consciousness, cosmology, and other areas of science.
I am proposing testable hypotheses that could take us forward
and open up new frontiers of scientific inquiry. I think
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that's spot on. I mean, we don't know how the
brain works exactly. We we we know how the brain
works as an organ sort of, but we don't know
how consciousness works. We don't know what it is. This
this oneness that makes us a human being, you know,
with with feelings, and we don't understand any of that stuff.
So the idea that that stuff isn't worth studying seems
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so shortsighted to me, you know. Yeah, yeah, I think oftentimes,
and people when people say skepticism is the default position,
they're conflating that with a refusal to investigate something. Right,
critical thinking demands that you actually get in the weeds
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about stuff. Maybe that's not the best turn of phrase
to use, since I basically said I I think plants
might have some sort of weird consciousness. But so there's
another scientific American post by Michael Schermer, publisher of skeptic
dot com, and he also wrote a book called The
Science of Good and Evil, and he has an interesting
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note about morphic residence. Of course, he's coming from a
very very skeptical place, but he has an interchange with
shel Drake about the folks who dismissed the existence or
the proposed existence of the morphic field. And I wanted
to read this. I wanted to get you guys take
so after LA, now, all the problems skeptics would have
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with the concept of morphic field the way it's been
tested in the past. ChIL Drake responds that skeptics dampen
the morphic field themselves, whereas believers enhance it. And he
said about one skeptic, he said, quote, perhaps his negative
expectations consciously or unconsciously influence the way he looked at
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the subjects. So maybe it's difficult because then that makes
it difficult to disprove or prove anything. It works because
I believed in it, or it didn't work because you
didn't believe in it, not because it's not real, you
know what I mean? Yeah, and you hear that. I
don't want to say excuse, but that reasoning behind a
lot of magic, magic thinking things where even something as
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simil as a Weigia board, if you if you believe,
then it's going to happen. Um, I don't know. It
feels like the double slit experiment of bit with particle physics.
It also it also feels like a bit of the
other mind over matter conversations we've had in the past.
We know mental state is a critical piece of recovery
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from grievous injury, right. We know that the state of
your mind affects your body in real, quantitative and predictable
at times ways. But but to your point, no, it doesn't. Yeah,
it does seem like whether whether or not people feel
they can easily easily dismiss this, it does seem shortsighted
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to say, we assume we can dismiss this, therefore we
shall not consider it, you know what I mean, that's
very head in the sand. Well, it also would discount
so much scientific innovation and folks that, you know, question
whether the Earth was flat. That was a radical idea
at the time, you know. And now, I mean, obviously
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there's still a handful of folks that think that, but
largely we've pushed path to that, and and that's helped
inform a lot of other things that we know and
understand about the universe and about about the planet and
about you know, humankind. So if the person, if there
was never that person that made that push and was like, no,
you know what, I don't care what the you know,
the status quo says, I'm gonna keep pushing. And I
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think that's what the Shell Drake guy is. And again
also that Russell targ which is one of my favorite
interviews we've ever done. I'm talking about his book Third
Eye Spies and the CIA program of Remote Viewing that
he was instrumental in, and I swear to god he
had to have been the guy that Egan Spangler and
Ghostbusters was based on. Looks just like him and has
the similar kind of vibes um. But you know, uh,
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people get called a quack until they're called, you know, genius.
I think we should remember too, that the evolution of science,
what acute phrase there is riddled with stories of scientists
being criticized, defamed, hunted, church killed because they wanted to
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investigate something that they were either one not allowed to
investigate or they found something in their investigation that they
were not allowed to prove. Never forget. This same species
not too long ago killed the guy who figured out
that you can save lives by washing your hands, Ignaz
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semul Vice. He just said, hey, maybe you know, not
even everybody. Don't everybody wash your hands. If you're a
doctor and you're gonna do surgery, then wash your hands.
And people treated that like it was crazy. They literally
put him in his in a sane asylum and beat
the snot out of him and he died there totally.
Or even we talked about the other day, um on
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an episode that may or may not yet. Uh. You know,
how the government can you know, redact a patent, you know,
if they think it's something that's going to quote unquote
you know, threatened national security or whatever for their reason
they might be. I don't know that they have to
even explain it super well. They can, you know, basically
put the kai bosh on someone's invention, someone's intellectual property
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and and and essentially take it from them, you know,
because they think it's a threat in some way to
some form of this perception of national security or the
greater good, you know. Yeah. Yeah. However, please don't mistake
this as me saying I'm one on board with Rupert
Sheldrake's work. I haven't read a lot of his work.
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I don't know what ton of stuff about him. I
think we have many, many things to discover about psilocybin,
for sure, and the human brain and how it how
it communicates what the hardware and the software is. Right.
But like, here's an example to really make shell Drake understandable,
the concept of the morphic field. So, if the morphic
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field exists and it works in the way that shel
Drake pictures it. Then if you get up one set
atter day and you want to do a crossword puzzle,
the crossword puzzle will be easier later in the day
because other people have been doing the crossword puzzle and
their collective success is resonating through the more fake field.
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Like that's an example of how this would work. Does
that make sense? Hmm? Totally? I mean it, yes, that
the example makes sense, but it's a tough thing to
wrap your head around, I guess as in that could
be true absolutely, Matt. And also just to to piggyback
on something that Ben says, I, I too, have not
really dived deep into this man's work. This was my
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first encounter with him looking into this for this listener
mail response, and I'm fascinated. I think he has some
very pithy things to say about what we literally just
talked about about the ability for you know, scientists to
explore things that maybe the establishment of a scientific community
would you know, sort of stick their nose up at that.
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That in and of itself is enough for me to
want to dig deeper. But this is a really good
kind of encapsulation of his whole philosophy um and I
think it drives a lot with what we were just
talking about. He says, science believes animals and plants are
all just unconscious automatons. The whole of nature is unconscious
except for human beings. We're the only smart guys in
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the whole universe and somehow figured out how everything works,
and that means through science we can manipulate nature and
improve products for corporations, says then shel Drake pauses and says,
Descartes believe the only kind of mind was the conscious mind.
Then Freud reinvented the unconscious. Then Young said it wasn't
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just a personal unconscious, but a collective unconscious. Morphic residence
shows us that our very souls are connected with those
of others and bound up with the world around us.
Existence of the soul. I know it sounds horrible though.
That's my first that's my person epic. But I think
you're right, that is that is a great quote. I
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want to also say a non thank you for ha ha,
thank you for calling us. We have to mention the
hundred monkey effect. That's the idea that a a new
behavior can somehow appear to spread rapidly through unexplained means
from a single group to every other related group once
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there's this kind of critical mass of cognizance or knowledge
of a task. It's called the hundredth monkey thing because
of this study that was conducted in the fifties on
Japanese monkeys, and they saw okay, So the the idea
is that there are these unrelated populations of the same
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kind of living thing, right, and at some point a
few of them say, I'm just making up stuff here.
At some point a few of them learn to baby
wash food or maybe to hunt with tools like the
stab fish or something with a stick, and they teach
this to other members of their group. And then eventually,
for no discernible reason, a group of the same species,
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maybe across the country, across the world, suddenly appears to
have that knowledge. How did it get there? Right, It's
a mystery, but I think that would apply. That would
be something worth exploring for fans of more FIC residents.
I don't know, have you guys heard of that theory? Now,
we've talked. We talked about it on the show before. Yes, Yes,
(49:31):
I've definitely heard of this. Um. Yeah, and I think
it was the last year when we were talking about
No that wasn't the stoned apes theory there we did
one on magic mushrooms and the and Jesus Um. I
cannot recall exactly when maybe somebody out there listening remembers.
(49:53):
It also reminds me of the stoned ape theory that
Terence McKenna always talks about Um. By the way, Terrence
McKenna and and shel Drake, we're pals um Terence mackin
of the kind of pioneering psycho, not the notion that
you know, it was the eighth, that eighth, the psychedelic
mushroom that gave him more visual acuity and connection with
the surroundings to become a better hunter Um and all
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of that stuff. So it does remind me of that.
And to be clear, like morphic residents, the concept of
the hundred monkey is not accepted in the Ivory towers,
it's not accepted in academia, it's not accepted by mainstream science.
It's a matter of fact. The test that the urban
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legend was based off there the colony of monkeys, there
was only about fifty nine I think, so there actually
was no physical hundredth monkey. But how cool would it
be if it's true? How cool to be if there
were Oh man, well, hey, this has been a great,
great episode. Guys, thank you everybody who wrote to us,
who called in this is this has been fabulous. I
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think it Who was it Schmidt? Yes, you're right, Matt.
Thank you to Schmidt. Thank you to Jason, Thank you too,
Anonymous for calling in for writing to us. As always,
we can't wait to hear from you. Code named Doc
Holiday pointed out that we may be getting a lot
more correspondence because this is a regular weekly segment. So
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