September 8, 2022 • 47 mins
A first-hand account of finding poop in the mail. A deep dive into the world of spycraft and software. An exploration of the facts behind rare blood types. All this and more in this week's listener mail. They don’t want you to read our book. They don’t want you to see us on tour.
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From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of I Heart Brady. Hello, welcome back to the show.
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My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called
me Benn. We're joined as always with our super producer
Alexis code ename Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you.
You are here, and that makes this the stuff they
don't want you to know. This is one of the moments,
fellow listeners, where I wish, I wish I could pull
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you call it, because we have these amazing conversations off air,
h honestly full transparency. I'm pretty sure I don't know
about Matt Mill, but I'm pretty sure that Doc and
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and listener mail segments. Before we roll into messages from you,
fellow conspiracy realist, we have a bit of house keeping.
We have some corrections to air. As you guys know,
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honesty is quite important, uh to me and I think
to all three of us. So let nothing uh, let
nothing stay unaddressed. We had an episode on permaculture of
quite recently in the span of the show, and in
that we talked about the temperature increase across the world
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from pre industrial to these the humans modern days. And
I am the one who want want on this one.
I was so proud of being able to do the
conversion in my head between celsius and fahrenheit. And it's
okay for me to dunk on myself, okay, folks. Uh
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Matt off Mike. Matt checked in Matt how to come
to Jesus moment it with me, and I was like, again,
you guys know me. I was crazy. I was at
bat with this stuff and I was like, no, I
know in my head the conversion between celsius and fahrenheit.
I was correct, but I did not go all the
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way so thankfully we can say this part of the
Permaculture episode was incorrect, and thank you to all our
fellow conspiracy realists who reached out to me to let
me know that all of us need to know. The
Earth's temperature did not, in fact increase by a full
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thirty four point one six degrees fahrenheit, increased by something
more like two point five two degrees fahrenheit. And that's
on me, that's on my own hubris for being so
impressed with doing a calculation in my head that I
didn't finish out the rest of the math. So that
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is a correction that want to air. And again this
gives us one more opportunity to say thank you to
you listening now and to you who wrote in and
took the time to reach out. The truth remains sacro Saint. Again,
it's not thirty four point one six degrees, it's two
point five two around their fahrenheit. We have one more
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thing we wanted to get to air before we dive
into stories from our fellow listeners. I was I was
a real barnacle um I believe I said in the episode,
we were discussing meta and they're handing over information to
the authorities around uh quote unquote illegal abortion, that the
medication that the individual and question had taken was the
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Morning after pill or the Plan B. That is absolutely incorrect.
That is a medication that you would take prior to
actually being pregnant. Has to be taken very quickly. There
are other medications that are much more uh something that
you would take further along in the process. And it
was not clear year and the reporting which medication the
person had taken, and I spoke too soon. And again
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we want to thank all of our fellow listeners who
wrote in to share this information. We are speaking of you,
fellow listeners. We are going to share some stories that
you have shared with us uh and we're gonna I'm
just laughing because I've received so much communication about feces
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in the mail received, received some wonderful communications about human blood,
so much so that I actually went over on Twitter
app and bowl in hs W and guys, I published
verbatim a line from our group text that we usually
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hold off air, where I said something like I'd have
to pull a Twitter to look at it, but I
said something like, it'll be good to talk about blood,
though it's always a good conversation. It's there's our essence,
you know. Yeah, it's it's a thing. It's important, and
it's revered throughout culture and civilization. There we go, Thank
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you man, Thank you for that, Thank you for that.
Back up there. As you know, the three of us
do our best to back each other up and to
back you up, especially when you come with facts. When
you come with the stuff they don't want you to know,
it usually means that it's important to know those things.
And that's where our first piece of correspondence starts. Today.
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An anonymous source contacted us. It's something that really stood
out to know, really stood out to Matt, really stood
out to me, And this is one that's grown close
to us over the years. It's a a promise perhaps
to be kept. Oh yes, I would say. In this case,
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I'm what's the octa the aquaman character from the Boys,
what's that dude's name? Deep? The Deep? I'm very much
like the Deep in this regard where the octopus is
uncomfortably close to me at times. So so I'm sorry,
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I'll do I'll do anything. Okay, all right, here we go.
You're welcome. Alexis Alexas said OMG okay, uh, I'm just
gonna start reading from this email. My name is redacted.
I'm a relatively young conspiracy realist and I live in America.
My conspiracy expertise is mostly relegated to the history of
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various intelligence communities across the globe. While there's thousands of
topics and stories I'd love to discuss with y'all, I'll
do my best to be concise. I was listening to
your quote what was the Octopus episode and got to
the part where you all started talking about in slaws
promise software. Well, let me just say, yeah, right, remember
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that one, guys. Well, let me just say I have
some details you guys might have left out or omitted
and would find quite intriguing if you don't know about
it already. Carefully, non, I read your emails. We we
we have your actual name, anonymous, continues. Rafi Eaton, head
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of the Defense Ministries le Kim at the time, obtained
a copy of a promise disc that's the software through
Earl Brian in the early nineteen eighties. Now you gotta
stick with us, everybody, if you're listening, this gets a
little complicated, but this is important. So we've got Earl Brian.
This guy, Earl Brian, gave a disc to Rafi Eton.
Brian was livid with the Justice Department for using a
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version of the Promise software to successfully track mafia money laundering,
So mafia money and having been left out of the
profits from Promise that that would be upsetting right. When
Brian traveled to Tel Aviv in the early nineteen eighties,
he stayed at Eaton's residence. While staying there, Brian was
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moved by eaton stories of the growing threat of the
into Fata revolution. Brian felt Promise could help. He also
wanted to make money, so Brian and Eaton hatched a
plan to modify Promise with a trap door and market
it around the world. After receiving the disc, Eaton then
recruited a small team of Lekhem programmers to reverse engineer
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the Promise disc. Lekem, by the way, is UH. It
translates in English the Bureau of Scientific Relations. It was
around this time. It was an Israeli intelligence agency that
collected scientific and technical intelligence UH, most notably for the
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nuclear program in Israel, which I believe I'm required to
say has not been officially confirmed. Oh Man. It factors
into this too. It's crazy. It's crazy how many of
the conspiracies we've talked about on this show end up
getting wrapped up in this story being told to us
by an honest right now. Uh so let's continue down
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the rabbit hole here. So Itaton recruited that small team
of programmers from that thing you just discussed la Kem
to reverse engineer the promised disc and then Naton had
a Massaud official higher, an Israeli American engineer out of
North Carolina, to design an undetectable microchip that acted as
the quote trapdoor or backdoor. It was not the d
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o J, the Department of Justice that had the backdoor
microchip designed for use in the promise software. It was
Massad specifically spymaster Rafi Aton. That's intense, Okay, that's that's intense,
this this concept because it's kind of we're tracing the
pattern here if you go back and actually listen to
that episode that's being referenced by Anonymous what was the octopus?
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When it deals with like, why was this promise software
that was meant to just track court cases originally? Why
was it being used around the globe, and why was
it being sold by specific groups to other specific groups.
The email continues. Here's where it gets good though. Earl
Brian first tried to sell the Bugged promise to Rock
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and Jordan's intelligence services through his company Hadron or Hadrian.
Eaton was unsatisfied and wanted to find someone more effective
at marketing and selling the software. So Aton recruited a
contact of his. It's very special contact you guys, guy
named Robert Maxwell. Did that ring any bells for you, guys?
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Robert Maxwell like the Maxwell Coffee dynasty. Yah. Also super
in bed was Israeli intelligence outfits. But if you're super
in bed with Israeli intelligence outfits, just for the record,
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you're probably kind of in bed with some five eyes
stuff as well. Oh yeah, he was also the owner
of several mass media outlets. Yeah okay, um, So Eaton
got this guy, Robert Maxwell, to market and sell the
new massad promise by where around the globe using Maxwell's
tel Aviv based to GIM Computers Limited or dig M I.
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I don't know how to pronounce that d E G
E M. It was one of several Israeli companies that
Maxwell bought in the early nineteen eighties. Very few of
these Israeli companies were not Massaud's service providers to GEM
itself was used to provide cover to Massad assassins in
South and Central America as well as Africa. These are
huge allegations being put out here and uh, you guys,
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I don't have confirmation for these at this moment. We
have some reporting on it, but I don't have full
confirmation on these alas. I just want to put that
out there. Cars all right, good, good good? Should we continue? Guys?
As a pretty long email, does anyone want to round?
I'm your Huckleberry Matt. I'll play your reindeer games. Ann
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by nine five million dollars us of promise have been
sold to intelligence services in the following countries and on
list Britain, Australia, South Korea, Canada, Jordan's, Iraq, Poland, Russia, Chile, Argentina,
Guatemala and more. The worst and juiciest sale Maxwell made, though,
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is not the one he made through DAGAM, but rather
an American company he bought in nineteen eighty two through
the Permagon Group. True story known as Quote Information on
Demand end Quote. Maxwell met with Henry Kissinger, who pointed
him to the head of the Armed Services Committee at
the time, Senator John Tower, Tower that arranged for Maxwell
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to visit numerous labs at the Low Almost Complex, including
Sandia National Laboratories, to market Promised their ellipses. Tower did
all that for the low low price of two hundred
thousand dollars US. I always laugh at spy money. Two
hundred thousand dollars US of Massad money Boxwell successfully sold
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Promise software to Sandia National Laboratories and others. You know,
the Sandy and National Laboratories that basically houses US nuclear
programs and R and D secrets. Yeah, Massad gotten to
that through Promise and Maxwell. True story. Uncannily, the sale
of Promise to Sandia and other labs happened in the
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same period of where Italian had one of Israel's top
experts in nuclear targeting take over the supervising duties of
Jonathan Pollard's US nuclear espionage on behalf of Israel. I'm
hitting my desk here, that's me, uh in parentheses, and
no one says, I'm gonna assume you all know about
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Jonathan Pollard. Yes, dude, Oh my god. Alright, alright, well,
there's another paragraph now for the last big twist about Pergramon,
the c i A, the n s A, the FBI,
and Sandia. Uh read the link below to find out
because I can't summarize all of this in detail, Plus
there's important documents to back things up. But in short,
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I'm pretty sure Israel was more or less supposed to
get our nuclear secrets. That was the goal of Iton's
lecum agency. While the promised conspiracy was going down, there
was obvious and documented collusion between the U S, d
o J and the Massad. Maxwell's Pergramon International had a
history with the CIA's open source intelligence gathering methods before
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the promised days, and when the FBI got involved in
an investigation into Pergramon, thanks to Sandia and the n
s A alerted the FBI to Pergramon's connections with Russia,
the FBI swiftly reclassified a slew of documents, specifically anything
with Maxwell's name on it, and shut down the investigation
under the guise of Programon's business relationship with Russia being
a non issue, probably because it was a non issue
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since the real issue was Massad having a backdoor into
our foremost nuclear laboratory breath. Yeah, but but not just that.
Not just the foremost nuclear laboratory. They were able to
put tentacles, if you will, into all of these other
countries intelligence services. Think about that, guys. If there ever
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were an octopus, that's it. If there's a reason that
a certain journalist found himself dead in a bathtub when
he was going to go meet a confidential source, I
think that could be it. Something that may have put
our boy Castelero in a casket. That's what I'm saying.
And I think it's time we uh, dig even deeper
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into that story. Guys. I think this might be a
whole you know, episode, maybe a whole TV series whink. Anyway, Uh,
this is really great. Thank you so much and on
for sending this to us. That was a ton to
unpack like that. It's too much even for me to
unpack in this moment while we're sitting here talking about it.
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But basically, it's tracking what happened with that promise software
to the full extent with with proper names, and uh,
it's a bigger story than even I understood, I think,
at least up to this point. Well, all right, we
will we will keep looking into that. Thank you Ann
for sending that our way. We hope you stay safe,
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and any other little tidbits like that you want to
send our way, we are interested for sure. Maybe find
a more secure form of transmission. Thank you also, Anon
for some excellent points about the Clinton body count. I
agree with you, Yes, yes, thank you, and we'll be
right back after a word from our sponsor, and we're
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back with more messages from you helping us out. I
can't help it laugh because the UM segment that this
email is referencing, we all just like got real, real silly.
It's about sending poop in the mail. Matt, you may recall.
You may recall that one. It was what is a
disgruntled not a judge? Maybe like I think it was, Yeah,
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it was. It was sending poop to political individuals that
he did not agree with UM, And we asked a
lot of questions in that in that segment, what are
the laws around sending poop? Is it the same as
sending like human remains? Like? What what is the whole
deal with the law governing these types of acts? And
where does it go? Matt? You found the kind of
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like unicorn fact in this whole thing was that if
you send poop in the mail, it's not gonna go
to the person that you're actually sending it to. It's
gonna go to some hapless mail sorder because it's gonna
usually get flagged because it doesn't have a return address
on it. Remember that map. Well, yeah, well it's gonna
get sent through an automated system generally first that a
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mail sworder works on a computer and tells it where
to go. But then eventually, yeah, it's going to be
in the hands of at least two other people before
it gets to a government official. And that's what we
get with this email from an anonymous listener. UM asks
that we hide this individual's name, email address, of course,
and where they work. The place this individual works is
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a place that maybe could be considered controversial. UM. We
will not divulge whether this is a left or right
controversial organization, but it is controversial nonetheless, and we will
not say what it is. I work at BEEP, which
is a controversial organization in the United States. We have
been mailed poop on two separate occasions. Part of my
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job is to open the mail and I opened the
poop envelope both times. Yeah you won, you won the prize.
I contacted local authorities on both occasions, which were a
couple of years apart. Thankfully, the poop was tested and
was found to be cat poop, but the authorities were
unable to find the jerk who mailed it. Now for
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the real reason why I am writing this email, please
tell your listeners to not send poop in the mail.
We we kind of did that, I think pretty pretty
aggressively in the segment. Uh, that poop will not reach
the intended person, because what important person opens their own
mail fair enough, some schmuck like me will be opening
that mail, or an intern or another underpaid staff member
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opening poop makes for a horrible day week at work. Please,
oh please, do not send poop in the mail. Thanks
for a fantastic show. An anonymous listener. I think we
can all get behind that sentiment. Please, oh please don't
send poop in the mail. Yeah, the behind is the
most important part of that. I don't know who I'm
seeing that. It's like we're back in the Yeah, that's
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the kind of gems we were dropping, dropping the gems,
dropping the kids off at the pool. Anyway, there was
another email that came in, also referencing this segment that
hipped us to a website that when you go to it,
it looks like it's been around since like the Geo
cities days. But the website is poop Senders dot Com.
And it says, here, completely counter to the advice we
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have just given you, the original poop Senders, Always fresh,
always anonymous, the ultimate gag gift, sweet revenge at its finest,
guaranteed anonymous package tracking, emailed instantly. Order now like us
on Facebook because that's totally anonymous, right uh. And then
there's a sale going on summer sizzling sale off three
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pounds of steamy elephant poop. It used to be now
it's only hurry, limited time offer the summer sale. You
can get cow dong elephant crap. They're giving a separate
like poop analog for each one of these guerrilla poop
or the combo pack which you can get in Gallon
or megapec Um. I would not put my credit card
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information into this website. I hope, I hope nobody out
there would either. Um. But the fact that it exists
and looks so antiquated is delightful. It says there's a
new cash option. It says, use our new cash option.
We don't need your name, credit card, email, nothing, There's
absolutely no trail back to you. Just complete the order
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form above, Just click confirm and then use the green
pay with cash button and follow the instructions on the
next page. Yeah, this is a trap. This whole thing
is a trap. Then they give you top ten reasons
to send someone poop. Uh number one is for your
X Number two. I don't even want to read this.
It's gonna give people bad ideas. Don't send poop in
the mail. This website should not exist. Um, we've got
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some customer testimonials though. This is a gift that every
toll neighbor should get. But again, I think I brought
this up in the segment. Whatever happened to putting a
bag of poop on your own asshole neighbor's porch and
just lighting it on fire and then there's running away?
Why do we need to do it through the mail?
Let's dove the mail out of this. That message, by
the way, came from Officer hot pants. I just thought
that was notable. Yeah. I want to thank sincerely everybody
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who reached out to me, uh sincerely on social media,
various other avenues of correspondence with insight about poop and
mailing poop. Let's give some quick shout outs to those
of our fellow listeners who uh who first off thanked
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me and that's dubious for giving you the more you
know moment about about how to mail poop. I want
to reiterate again as a general rule of thumb, and
I am saying this on Twitter publicly, on record, do
not send people poop in the mail unless they explicitly
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ask you to do so. Special shout out to Jamie
d who followed up with don't send poop that came
from a people, or don't send any poop at all?
Can I send camel poop to a person? This is
time sensitive, Ben, I am at the post office. Uh
to you, Jamie, I respond just in general, don't don't
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send poop unless you have a pre existing agreement. When
I talked about camel clients privilege, that was a joke.
I am not versed in camel law. I'm not even
versed in bird law. That honor goes to Charlie Day. Uh.
If you really want to mess with someone's day, send
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them glitter, which is much more legal. Please tune in
to our upcoming full episode on some stuff they don't
want you to know about glitter, which will blow your mind.
In the interest of not continuing to be labor at
this point, I think we should move on, make this
a short one and have a break, and then another
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piece of listener mail and we're back. I want to
extend a special thanks to everybody who takes the time
to write in at conspiracy at I heart radio dot com. Again,
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we read every single email we get, and I certainly
dive into the rabbit hole here. So our final piece
of correspondence comes from Cherish. Cherish, you said, hey, guys,
the last couple of episodes I listened to the r
H negative blood type conspiracy came up. I am and
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r H negative blood type and had to get r
H O gam G A M shots for all three
of my pregnancies so that my blood cells and immune
system wouldn't attack my developing babies. Uh, this is me,
they call me. Been here interjecting with some editorialism. We're
gonna talk about that in a second, because it's something
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more people need to know. Back to Cherish, she says,
too kind of put to rest or add to it,
thinking face emoji. The idea that we are some kind
of alien descendants with superhuman abilities. I decided to share
a bit of my experience with you. Cherish says. My
superpowers want the ability to stub my toe and hit
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my head simultaneously boom to falling up the stairs, boom three,
tripping on air, but uh number four other physics defying
accidents that usually end in injury of myself and others.
Fun fact, though, says Cherish, I did a DNA test
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to trace my ancestry, and in my results there was
the expected English, Spanish, Iberian, and Northwest European. But curiously
there was eleven percent unknown within explaning saan that basically
said they couldn't find any matches in their system for
that particular bit of d N A. Maybe that's just
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an ethnic group not participating much in the collection and
analysis of DNA to match me two, or maybe that's
what led to the r H negative blood type and
the bit of not from around here ancestry. And then
Cherish you go on to say you're happy to volunteer
for any research, and you are also currently living for
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the sake of your security, Cherish will just say that
you live in the area of the U. S National
Radio Quiet Zone, and you said you are glad to
help us out with any research into that spooky, spooky
part of the United States. Thanks love listening to you, guys,
Cherish Well, Cherish, you are not just a rarity in
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uh this week's listener mail segment. You are a rarity
in Oh, I mean a rarity in that we have
to an aonymous sources that we have cherished. You are
also a rarity, uh by nature of your blood. We
have talked a little bit about blood in previous explorations
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such as um oh gosh. For time, there were a
couple of startups here in the United States that were
taking plasma, you know, like that's like the unctuous part
of blood for a new blood drinkers. They were taking
plasma from young people who needed money and putting it
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into the veins of wealthy people who had money but
didn't have as much time. Modern vampires very hashtag monty birds. Yeah,
they're like bathing in the blood of virgins or something
like that. Like it's very conculty and weird. I still
think that was anti bathy propaganda, but you know, it's
like I had to be their situation. Uh so, so
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I want to start off this as again, we'll keep
this quick because this is very interesting, I think to
all of us. Uh, So, do you guys know your
blood types? I do not. It came up recently as like,
I know so much random bull crap about like pop
culture and music and movies, but I do not know
my blood type. And it's embarrassing. No, I do not.
I don't know in your blood type. It's it's funny
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to hear that because there are many many Um, there
are many people who are in the same situation. Many
human beings are in the same situation, especially in the US.
It doesn't come up often. Right. If you are donating blood,
you should. I'm a little biased, but I think it's
a good thing to do. Uh. If you donate blood,
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then you are helping someone that you will never meet,
which is a very very noble thing. Uh. And you
will not be turned away based on your blood type.
You may be turned away for other reasons, which we've
discussed I think in previous either listener mail or strange
news segments. You may be turned away for for other
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reasons that this show doesn't doesn't agree with. But in
other parts of the world, blood types are treated very
much the same way that Westerners would treat a a
zodiac sign, right, like, are we all in the Western zodiac?
As it's practice, Now, we're all Leo's right, are we
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all roaring and we're in We're in the hat. I
bought this hat just in case people were wondering. I am, yeah,
I'm in factive Leoh. We're all a couple of days
apart in our birthdays, so we're probably the same exact
rising sign right there, like the same exact iteration of Leo.
I have no idea. Hey, you are clueless about blood
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type and rice and I see that you know the
organ donor uh note here, But it seems like in
an emergency situation it would be cool to know my
blood type to right, Yes, isn't there can't you ask
them to put that on your license? Isn't that a
boxing at the dyk? It is? It's creepy because you know,
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I think most people don't put it on there because
they don't know, because you have to know, they're not
gonna like look it up for you. They're not gonna
do that. I believe that's right. I do believe there
is a thing where you can have your blood type
be on your driver's license. But correct me if I'm wrong,
because I'm wrong planning. You're well, you're absolutely right. Uh,
and we are. We're all in the same I was
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gonna say a blood donation ward, We're all in the
same boat as many people listening along today. Your blood
type often is not going to come up the odds
of you, you know, going on a job interview or
going on a first date and having someone ask you
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but your blood type? Are you a universal donor are
you one of those people who can take the old blood?
That's probably not gonna come up. If it does, you
are at a very interesting date or a very interesting
job interview. But this idea of blood type has been
(33:15):
I think wilfully misinterpreted by a lot of fans of
UFO extraterrestrial speculation. This is something that Cherishes calling out here.
When Cherish is saying, I am actually not an alien.
My superpowers include the everyday human superpower being kind of clumsy,
(33:39):
the worst acts. Who's discussing these superpowers? I was. I
was trying to look it up, and I couldn't really
find anything other than the pregnancy transfer and the issues
with you know, people that have this blood type and
having to get certain injections to make sure that the
fetus is viable. But what circles are are conjecturing the
this blood type is somehow not at this world right,
it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be the typical ancient
(34:02):
aliens crowd. Which I don't want you guys to die
on this hill with me, but I've been on record
in the past pointing out the racist origins of those
sorts of arguments, because God knows they're not supported by fact.
But the the idea then, or the cognitive leap, is
that because something is more rare than another trait, uh,
(34:26):
it must therefore be even more special. Then science would
indicate for people who have blue eyes. Blue eyes in
the human species, if you're talking about genetic blue eyes,
they largely originate from a mutation in what we would
call Estonia today, and they were just soups popular and
(34:49):
so they spread around. But that doesn't mean there was
an alien involved. There were just a couple of folks,
you know, who had a little up in their appearance
and we're able to capitalize on that. But this does
mean that there are some blood types that are more prevalent.
When we talk about blood types, what we're what we're
(35:11):
really talking about is shorthand for blood group systems, and
there are forty three different blood group systems recognized by
the i s BT, the International Society of Blood Transfusion.
If you're donating blood, and again, please do, you won't
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have to worry about which of those forty three types
you might fall into. You can just show up and
hopefully they will know that you're helping to fight the
good fight. R H capital are little H negative refers
to an absence of proteins in your red blood cells.
(35:54):
Every time you bleed, every time you cut your hand
at ritual or in an accident. Uh you are you
are emitting not just one substance. It may look like
one substance, but you're emitting kind of a smoothie of
red blood cells and white blood cells. And as you
point out, Cherished, this comes into play in a big
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way when you are a person carrying a child, when
you're expecting, when you're expecting a human child, because you
are r H positive and that's relatively rare, then the
child you are carrying may emit a certain amount of
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its blood into your circulatory system. And then if you
have RH negative blood, then that means your body will say, WHOA,
what's all this strange blood? We don't like r H is,
we don't like those proteins around here, and it may
make antibodies that can hurt or kill blood cells that
(36:58):
have those r H proteins. So this is past, you know,
past all the hoodie who and the woo woo of
speculation about extraterrestrial hybrids. This is something that is important
to know. The medicine, the medication that Cherish refers to
r H O gam G A M. This is a
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treatment that will prevent the host body. I shouldn't say that,
the expecting parent from making antibodies that attack those RH
positive blood cells, giving your your future progeny a safer home. Right.
And this is creepy to some people because it is
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made with human blood. It contains a very small amount
of RH positive proteins. And this feeding that vaccine right
just so, Yes, defeating that small amount of this into
your body system will prevent your immune system from making
(38:03):
permanent standing antibodies that are always going to fight those
r H proteins, and they most importantly will not harm
your child. This is key. Uh, this is also an
opportunity for us to talk about I feel creepy when
(38:24):
I talked about the importance of donating blood. Yeah, I
know it is important. Though it is important, and that's
why I wanted about your blood types. But I think
this is fascinating because you see so many sort of
Peppe Silvia Charlie Day kind of red string conspiracies drawn,
(38:46):
these leaps of logic made when we hear that anyone
has a rare trait, when you hear that someone may
have an extra vertebrate in their spine, when you hear
that someone may have attached other than detached earloads, Like
what are what are some of the physical traits that
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you guys have heard of that are rare? Well? Doesn't
that usually like evolutionarily speaking, if there's going to be
a mutation that's going to take off, it needs to
be beneficial, right, Like it needs to do something, yeah,
or not harmful, but mainly beneficial, Like not mainly, but
like if it's beneficial, it's more likely to carry on
because it's you know, the odds are in the favor
(39:28):
of those that have that trait. That's like somehow interacting
with the environment making sure they don't like get killed um.
And again, these kinds of things sort of take a
smaller view in our modern day. But like evolution over time,
a trait that would like literally keep a species from
being killed off but yet caused it to like flourish,
that was much more important in the in the old days,
(39:50):
the old days of evolution. But I'm with you man,
and the idea of bloodlines, for example, just the idea
of blood, purity of blood at all of It's like,
there's all this stuff wrapped up in blood that I
think is fascinating. Isn't there a mutation that causes toes
sometimes to be more elongated and act like be more
(40:14):
like fingers, That would be a really interesting one. We're
talking about different mutations. Yeah, there are mutations specific to that,
I believe there are also mutations that affect all of
the what do they call philanges? Would that be the
word for your little uh maybe just talking about the
(40:36):
human skeleton. But yes, there are there are adaptations that
can be very helpful in one situation and very damaging
in another situation, right, like sickle cell anemia and malaria. Right,
this prevalence of sickle cell anemia comes from and e
(41:00):
llluctionary fight against the horrors of malaria in terms of
for RH negative. If we look at that example, Matt,
do you have that question right. There's also things that
are called like atavisms, which is when someone has their coxix,
(41:21):
which is a hilarious name for the bone of the
human ass, when someone's cock six had in some cases
and some births or in some humans, the the coxics
can protrude making a stumpy little tail. But it's not cool.
It's not prehensile like certain other primates are, like Nightcrawler
(41:44):
and the X Men. It's just something that's gonna make
wearing pants awkward for the kids, so they usually stump
it out for lack of a better Also, like you know,
in the Dark Ages, perhaps makes parents think that their
child is a demon and like just put it out
in the woods, let it die of exposure. I mean
that's like a thing with these traits to the way
humanity and like we interpret them and like what happens,
(42:07):
you know, like over time or even in a short
amount of time, because like our time on this earth
evolutionarily is a joke. It is a blip, you know,
So like oh no, this, this, this aberration or this
like mutation makes me think that there's the devil at work.
So I'm just gonna like kill this jump off and
be fine with it. Also, the uh, they're plenty of
things that the average person might not know about human childbirth,
(42:33):
one being that way more people are born polydactyl with
more than ten fingers, then then you may think, uh,
and those fingers stuff that I want you to know. Look, hey, spoilers,
but but those are usually removed that we're a time,
we've got to go. Uh. We do want to say
that the speculation regarding r H negative blood and purported
(42:57):
extraterrestrial origins is primarily based on just that speculation. There
is no heart proof you're human. You're gonna have the
same trials, travails, and triumphs as the rest of people.
And as Shakespeare quoted, if if you are pricked, you
will bleed. Uh. That's just the human condition. But most
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importantly for this case, Cherish, we want to thank you
for giving some firsthand experience with r H negative blood
and for highlighting the importance of any expecting person if
you want to consult with your doctor and make sure
that you and your child are set up for success
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thanks also to our anonymous coresponders. Uh, please tell us
what you think about promise, Please tell us about your
experiences with the sticky world of trade craft and geopolitics
and uh, most importantly, Noel Matt, I think we can
just say it conclusively, don't send poop in the mail,
(44:03):
don't send it explicitly. Ask you to make sure they
have a reason their thing, and it's like it's it's
a consensual but again but it don't even do it then,
because then you're you're still involving these these these parties
that are not that would not wish to be part
of that circle. Just take it to their door in
a bag, you know, give it to them wrapped in
(44:23):
a in a gift package and presented to them you know, yeah, yeah,
in way too many boxes. So it's like you're gonna
reduce You're going to reduce the chance that they get
poop on them, but they will definitely smell it in it.
There we go, let the poop breathe. Guys, before we
Leaven want to give you our Leo horoscope from horoscope
(44:47):
dot com because Ben I'll give you flashbacks of writing
these back in the day, because now that we've established
we're all Leo's here's our horoscope. Guys, you're drawn to
public service. It propels you to volunteer your services with
a group of some kind. I think we all have
to go give some blood. I'm terrified of like needles.
When I go to the doctor and they draw blood
(45:08):
for like labs and stuff, I have to look away.
And the lovely you know medical professional that's like doing
it always asked me if I'm okay, there was this
one time to go do you have any pets some
like yep, like what you got like cat? Like I am, like,
I'm terrified. I can't do it. And I have a
thyroid condition so I have to get blood drawn a lot.
But it's a limited amount of blood. So the thought
(45:30):
of like having my blood drained from me like just
indefinitely terrifies me. But you know what Game On Challenge
Accepted says, you're drawn to it, man, So I don't
know drawn from me. I'm not being drawn to anything. Yeah,
I think it is both good and noble to help
(45:50):
people that you will never meet. But I'll take your
blood if you want. You can have as much as
you want, but you gotta get it out. You gotta
get it out yourself, preferably while I'm sleeping, so don't notice.
All right, Well, nothing weird about that. And speaking of
fantastic segways, we hope you enjoyed this week's listener mail segment, folks,
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(03:05):
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(03:31):
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I was so proud of being able to do the
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(03:54):
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you guys know me. I was crazy. I was at
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know in my head the conversion between celsius and fahrenheit.
I was correct, but I did not go all the
(04:14):
way so thankfully we can say this part of the
Permaculture episode was incorrect, and thank you to all our
fellow conspiracy realists who reached out to me to let
me know that all of us need to know. The
Earth's temperature did not, in fact increase by a full
(04:37):
thirty four point one six degrees fahrenheit, increased by something
more like two point five two degrees fahrenheit. And that's
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impressed with doing a calculation in my head that I
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(04:58):
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gives us one more opportunity to say thank you to
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took the time to reach out. The truth remains sacro Saint. Again,
it's not thirty four point one six degrees, it's two
point five two around their fahrenheit. We have one more
(05:23):
thing we wanted to get to air before we dive
into stories from our fellow listeners. I was I was
a real barnacle um I believe I said in the episode,
we were discussing meta and they're handing over information to
the authorities around uh quote unquote illegal abortion, that the
medication that the individual and question had taken was the
(05:44):
Morning after pill or the Plan B. That is absolutely incorrect.
That is a medication that you would take prior to
actually being pregnant. Has to be taken very quickly. There
are other medications that are much more uh something that
you would take further along in the process. And it
was not clear year and the reporting which medication the
person had taken, and I spoke too soon. And again
(06:05):
we want to thank all of our fellow listeners who
wrote in to share this information. We are speaking of you,
fellow listeners. We are going to share some stories that
you have shared with us uh and we're gonna I'm
just laughing because I've received so much communication about feces
(06:33):
in the mail received, received some wonderful communications about human blood,
so much so that I actually went over on Twitter
app and bowl in hs W and guys, I published
verbatim a line from our group text that we usually
(06:53):
hold off air, where I said something like I'd have
to pull a Twitter to look at it, but I
said something like, it'll be good to talk about blood,
though it's always a good conversation. It's there's our essence,
you know. Yeah, it's it's a thing. It's important, and
it's revered throughout culture and civilization. There we go, Thank
(07:14):
you man, Thank you for that, Thank you for that.
Back up there. As you know, the three of us
do our best to back each other up and to
back you up, especially when you come with facts. When
you come with the stuff they don't want you to know,
it usually means that it's important to know those things.
And that's where our first piece of correspondence starts. Today.
(07:39):
An anonymous source contacted us. It's something that really stood
out to know, really stood out to Matt, really stood
out to me, And this is one that's grown close
to us over the years. It's a a promise perhaps
to be kept. Oh yes, I would say. In this case,
(08:00):
I'm what's the octa the aquaman character from the Boys,
what's that dude's name? Deep? The Deep? I'm very much
like the Deep in this regard where the octopus is
uncomfortably close to me at times. So so I'm sorry,
(08:20):
I'll do I'll do anything. Okay, all right, here we go.
You're welcome. Alexis Alexas said OMG okay, uh, I'm just
gonna start reading from this email. My name is redacted.
I'm a relatively young conspiracy realist and I live in America.
My conspiracy expertise is mostly relegated to the history of
(08:42):
various intelligence communities across the globe. While there's thousands of
topics and stories I'd love to discuss with y'all, I'll
do my best to be concise. I was listening to
your quote what was the Octopus episode and got to
the part where you all started talking about in slaws
promise software. Well, let me just say, yeah, right, remember
(09:03):
that one, guys. Well, let me just say I have
some details you guys might have left out or omitted
and would find quite intriguing if you don't know about
it already. Carefully, non, I read your emails. We we
we have your actual name, anonymous, continues. Rafi Eaton, head
(09:23):
of the Defense Ministries le Kim at the time, obtained
a copy of a promise disc that's the software through
Earl Brian in the early nineteen eighties. Now you gotta
stick with us, everybody, if you're listening, this gets a
little complicated, but this is important. So we've got Earl Brian.
This guy, Earl Brian, gave a disc to Rafi Eton.
Brian was livid with the Justice Department for using a
(09:46):
version of the Promise software to successfully track mafia money laundering,
So mafia money and having been left out of the
profits from Promise that that would be upsetting right. When
Brian traveled to Tel Aviv in the early nineteen eighties,
he stayed at Eaton's residence. While staying there, Brian was
(10:07):
moved by eaton stories of the growing threat of the
into Fata revolution. Brian felt Promise could help. He also
wanted to make money, so Brian and Eaton hatched a
plan to modify Promise with a trap door and market
it around the world. After receiving the disc, Eaton then
recruited a small team of Lekhem programmers to reverse engineer
(10:30):
the Promise disc. Lekem, by the way, is UH. It
translates in English the Bureau of Scientific Relations. It was
around this time. It was an Israeli intelligence agency that
collected scientific and technical intelligence UH, most notably for the
(10:52):
nuclear program in Israel, which I believe I'm required to
say has not been officially confirmed. Oh Man. It factors
into this too. It's crazy. It's crazy how many of
the conspiracies we've talked about on this show end up
getting wrapped up in this story being told to us
by an honest right now. Uh so let's continue down
(11:13):
the rabbit hole here. So Itaton recruited that small team
of programmers from that thing you just discussed la Kem
to reverse engineer the promised disc and then Naton had
a Massaud official higher, an Israeli American engineer out of
North Carolina, to design an undetectable microchip that acted as
the quote trapdoor or backdoor. It was not the d
(11:37):
o J, the Department of Justice that had the backdoor
microchip designed for use in the promise software. It was
Massad specifically spymaster Rafi Aton. That's intense, Okay, that's that's intense,
this this concept because it's kind of we're tracing the
pattern here if you go back and actually listen to
that episode that's being referenced by Anonymous what was the octopus?
(12:00):
When it deals with like, why was this promise software
that was meant to just track court cases originally? Why
was it being used around the globe, and why was
it being sold by specific groups to other specific groups.
The email continues. Here's where it gets good though. Earl
Brian first tried to sell the Bugged promise to Rock
(12:21):
and Jordan's intelligence services through his company Hadron or Hadrian.
Eaton was unsatisfied and wanted to find someone more effective
at marketing and selling the software. So Aton recruited a
contact of his. It's very special contact you guys, guy
named Robert Maxwell. Did that ring any bells for you, guys?
(12:42):
Robert Maxwell like the Maxwell Coffee dynasty. Yah. Also super
in bed was Israeli intelligence outfits. But if you're super
in bed with Israeli intelligence outfits, just for the record,
(13:04):
you're probably kind of in bed with some five eyes
stuff as well. Oh yeah, he was also the owner
of several mass media outlets. Yeah okay, um, So Eaton
got this guy, Robert Maxwell, to market and sell the
new massad promise by where around the globe using Maxwell's
tel Aviv based to GIM Computers Limited or dig M I.
(13:28):
I don't know how to pronounce that d E G
E M. It was one of several Israeli companies that
Maxwell bought in the early nineteen eighties. Very few of
these Israeli companies were not Massaud's service providers to GEM
itself was used to provide cover to Massad assassins in
South and Central America as well as Africa. These are
huge allegations being put out here and uh, you guys,
(13:50):
I don't have confirmation for these at this moment. We
have some reporting on it, but I don't have full
confirmation on these alas. I just want to put that
out there. Cars all right, good, good good? Should we continue? Guys?
As a pretty long email, does anyone want to round?
I'm your Huckleberry Matt. I'll play your reindeer games. Ann
(14:12):
by nine five million dollars us of promise have been
sold to intelligence services in the following countries and on
list Britain, Australia, South Korea, Canada, Jordan's, Iraq, Poland, Russia, Chile, Argentina,
Guatemala and more. The worst and juiciest sale Maxwell made, though,
(14:34):
is not the one he made through DAGAM, but rather
an American company he bought in nineteen eighty two through
the Permagon Group. True story known as Quote Information on
Demand end Quote. Maxwell met with Henry Kissinger, who pointed
him to the head of the Armed Services Committee at
the time, Senator John Tower, Tower that arranged for Maxwell
(14:57):
to visit numerous labs at the Low Almost Complex, including
Sandia National Laboratories, to market Promised their ellipses. Tower did
all that for the low low price of two hundred
thousand dollars US. I always laugh at spy money. Two
hundred thousand dollars US of Massad money Boxwell successfully sold
(15:19):
Promise software to Sandia National Laboratories and others. You know,
the Sandy and National Laboratories that basically houses US nuclear
programs and R and D secrets. Yeah, Massad gotten to
that through Promise and Maxwell. True story. Uncannily, the sale
of Promise to Sandia and other labs happened in the
(15:42):
same period of where Italian had one of Israel's top
experts in nuclear targeting take over the supervising duties of
Jonathan Pollard's US nuclear espionage on behalf of Israel. I'm
hitting my desk here, that's me, uh in parentheses, and
no one says, I'm gonna assume you all know about
(16:04):
Jonathan Pollard. Yes, dude, Oh my god. Alright, alright, well,
there's another paragraph now for the last big twist about Pergramon,
the c i A, the n s A, the FBI,
and Sandia. Uh read the link below to find out
because I can't summarize all of this in detail, Plus
there's important documents to back things up. But in short,
(16:24):
I'm pretty sure Israel was more or less supposed to
get our nuclear secrets. That was the goal of Iton's
lecum agency. While the promised conspiracy was going down, there
was obvious and documented collusion between the U S, d
o J and the Massad. Maxwell's Pergramon International had a
history with the CIA's open source intelligence gathering methods before
(16:46):
the promised days, and when the FBI got involved in
an investigation into Pergramon, thanks to Sandia and the n
s A alerted the FBI to Pergramon's connections with Russia,
the FBI swiftly reclassified a slew of documents, specifically anything
with Maxwell's name on it, and shut down the investigation
under the guise of Programon's business relationship with Russia being
a non issue, probably because it was a non issue
(17:08):
since the real issue was Massad having a backdoor into
our foremost nuclear laboratory breath. Yeah, but but not just that.
Not just the foremost nuclear laboratory. They were able to
put tentacles, if you will, into all of these other
countries intelligence services. Think about that, guys. If there ever
(17:32):
were an octopus, that's it. If there's a reason that
a certain journalist found himself dead in a bathtub when
he was going to go meet a confidential source, I
think that could be it. Something that may have put
our boy Castelero in a casket. That's what I'm saying.
And I think it's time we uh, dig even deeper
(17:53):
into that story. Guys. I think this might be a
whole you know, episode, maybe a whole TV series whink. Anyway, Uh,
this is really great. Thank you so much and on
for sending this to us. That was a ton to
unpack like that. It's too much even for me to
unpack in this moment while we're sitting here talking about it.
(18:15):
But basically, it's tracking what happened with that promise software
to the full extent with with proper names, and uh,
it's a bigger story than even I understood, I think,
at least up to this point. Well, all right, we
will we will keep looking into that. Thank you Ann
for sending that our way. We hope you stay safe,
(18:37):
and any other little tidbits like that you want to
send our way, we are interested for sure. Maybe find
a more secure form of transmission. Thank you also, Anon
for some excellent points about the Clinton body count. I
agree with you, Yes, yes, thank you, and we'll be
right back after a word from our sponsor, and we're
(19:04):
back with more messages from you helping us out. I
can't help it laugh because the UM segment that this
email is referencing, we all just like got real, real silly.
It's about sending poop in the mail. Matt, you may recall.
You may recall that one. It was what is a
disgruntled not a judge? Maybe like I think it was, Yeah,
(19:27):
it was. It was sending poop to political individuals that
he did not agree with UM, And we asked a
lot of questions in that in that segment, what are
the laws around sending poop? Is it the same as
sending like human remains? Like? What what is the whole
deal with the law governing these types of acts? And
where does it go? Matt? You found the kind of
(19:48):
like unicorn fact in this whole thing was that if
you send poop in the mail, it's not gonna go
to the person that you're actually sending it to. It's
gonna go to some hapless mail sorder because it's gonna
usually get flagged because it doesn't have a return address
on it. Remember that map. Well, yeah, well it's gonna
get sent through an automated system generally first that a
(20:10):
mail sworder works on a computer and tells it where
to go. But then eventually, yeah, it's going to be
in the hands of at least two other people before
it gets to a government official. And that's what we
get with this email from an anonymous listener. UM asks
that we hide this individual's name, email address, of course,
and where they work. The place this individual works is
(20:31):
a place that maybe could be considered controversial. UM. We
will not divulge whether this is a left or right
controversial organization, but it is controversial nonetheless, and we will
not say what it is. I work at BEEP, which
is a controversial organization in the United States. We have
been mailed poop on two separate occasions. Part of my
(20:51):
job is to open the mail and I opened the
poop envelope both times. Yeah you won, you won the prize.
I contacted local authorities on both occasions, which were a
couple of years apart. Thankfully, the poop was tested and
was found to be cat poop, but the authorities were
unable to find the jerk who mailed it. Now for
(21:12):
the real reason why I am writing this email, please
tell your listeners to not send poop in the mail.
We we kind of did that, I think pretty pretty
aggressively in the segment. Uh, that poop will not reach
the intended person, because what important person opens their own
mail fair enough, some schmuck like me will be opening
that mail, or an intern or another underpaid staff member
(21:34):
opening poop makes for a horrible day week at work. Please,
oh please, do not send poop in the mail. Thanks
for a fantastic show. An anonymous listener. I think we
can all get behind that sentiment. Please, oh please don't
send poop in the mail. Yeah, the behind is the
most important part of that. I don't know who I'm
seeing that. It's like we're back in the Yeah, that's
(21:56):
the kind of gems we were dropping, dropping the gems,
dropping the kids off at the pool. Anyway, there was
another email that came in, also referencing this segment that
hipped us to a website that when you go to it,
it looks like it's been around since like the Geo
cities days. But the website is poop Senders dot Com.
And it says, here, completely counter to the advice we
(22:18):
have just given you, the original poop Senders, Always fresh,
always anonymous, the ultimate gag gift, sweet revenge at its finest,
guaranteed anonymous package tracking, emailed instantly. Order now like us
on Facebook because that's totally anonymous, right uh. And then
there's a sale going on summer sizzling sale off three
(22:41):
pounds of steamy elephant poop. It used to be now
it's only hurry, limited time offer the summer sale. You
can get cow dong elephant crap. They're giving a separate
like poop analog for each one of these guerrilla poop
or the combo pack which you can get in Gallon
or megapec Um. I would not put my credit card
(23:05):
information into this website. I hope, I hope nobody out
there would either. Um. But the fact that it exists
and looks so antiquated is delightful. It says there's a
new cash option. It says, use our new cash option.
We don't need your name, credit card, email, nothing, There's
absolutely no trail back to you. Just complete the order
(23:26):
form above, Just click confirm and then use the green
pay with cash button and follow the instructions on the
next page. Yeah, this is a trap. This whole thing
is a trap. Then they give you top ten reasons
to send someone poop. Uh number one is for your
X Number two. I don't even want to read this.
It's gonna give people bad ideas. Don't send poop in
the mail. This website should not exist. Um, we've got
(23:48):
some customer testimonials though. This is a gift that every
toll neighbor should get. But again, I think I brought
this up in the segment. Whatever happened to putting a
bag of poop on your own asshole neighbor's porch and
just lighting it on fire and then there's running away?
Why do we need to do it through the mail?
Let's dove the mail out of this. That message, by
the way, came from Officer hot pants. I just thought
that was notable. Yeah. I want to thank sincerely everybody
(24:11):
who reached out to me, uh sincerely on social media,
various other avenues of correspondence with insight about poop and
mailing poop. Let's give some quick shout outs to those
of our fellow listeners who uh who first off thanked
(24:33):
me and that's dubious for giving you the more you
know moment about about how to mail poop. I want
to reiterate again as a general rule of thumb, and
I am saying this on Twitter publicly, on record, do
not send people poop in the mail unless they explicitly
(24:54):
ask you to do so. Special shout out to Jamie
d who followed up with don't send poop that came
from a people, or don't send any poop at all?
Can I send camel poop to a person? This is
time sensitive, Ben, I am at the post office. Uh
to you, Jamie, I respond just in general, don't don't
(25:16):
send poop unless you have a pre existing agreement. When
I talked about camel clients privilege, that was a joke.
I am not versed in camel law. I'm not even
versed in bird law. That honor goes to Charlie Day. Uh.
If you really want to mess with someone's day, send
(25:37):
them glitter, which is much more legal. Please tune in
to our upcoming full episode on some stuff they don't
want you to know about glitter, which will blow your mind.
In the interest of not continuing to be labor at
this point, I think we should move on, make this
a short one and have a break, and then another
(25:58):
piece of listener mail and we're back. I want to
extend a special thanks to everybody who takes the time
to write in at conspiracy at I heart radio dot com. Again,
(26:19):
we read every single email we get, and I certainly
dive into the rabbit hole here. So our final piece
of correspondence comes from Cherish. Cherish, you said, hey, guys,
the last couple of episodes I listened to the r
H negative blood type conspiracy came up. I am and
(26:40):
r H negative blood type and had to get r
H O gam G A M shots for all three
of my pregnancies so that my blood cells and immune
system wouldn't attack my developing babies. Uh, this is me,
they call me. Been here interjecting with some editorialism. We're
gonna talk about that in a second, because it's something
(27:02):
more people need to know. Back to Cherish, she says,
too kind of put to rest or add to it,
thinking face emoji. The idea that we are some kind
of alien descendants with superhuman abilities. I decided to share
a bit of my experience with you. Cherish says. My
superpowers want the ability to stub my toe and hit
(27:25):
my head simultaneously boom to falling up the stairs, boom three,
tripping on air, but uh number four other physics defying
accidents that usually end in injury of myself and others.
Fun fact, though, says Cherish, I did a DNA test
(27:46):
to trace my ancestry, and in my results there was
the expected English, Spanish, Iberian, and Northwest European. But curiously
there was eleven percent unknown within explaning saan that basically
said they couldn't find any matches in their system for
that particular bit of d N A. Maybe that's just
(28:08):
an ethnic group not participating much in the collection and
analysis of DNA to match me two, or maybe that's
what led to the r H negative blood type and
the bit of not from around here ancestry. And then
Cherish you go on to say you're happy to volunteer
for any research, and you are also currently living for
(28:29):
the sake of your security, Cherish will just say that
you live in the area of the U. S National
Radio Quiet Zone, and you said you are glad to
help us out with any research into that spooky, spooky
part of the United States. Thanks love listening to you, guys,
Cherish Well, Cherish, you are not just a rarity in
(28:52):
uh this week's listener mail segment. You are a rarity
in Oh, I mean a rarity in that we have
to an aonymous sources that we have cherished. You are
also a rarity, uh by nature of your blood. We
have talked a little bit about blood in previous explorations
(29:14):
such as um oh gosh. For time, there were a
couple of startups here in the United States that were
taking plasma, you know, like that's like the unctuous part
of blood for a new blood drinkers. They were taking
plasma from young people who needed money and putting it
(29:34):
into the veins of wealthy people who had money but
didn't have as much time. Modern vampires very hashtag monty birds. Yeah,
they're like bathing in the blood of virgins or something
like that. Like it's very conculty and weird. I still
think that was anti bathy propaganda, but you know, it's
like I had to be their situation. Uh so, so
(29:58):
I want to start off this as again, we'll keep
this quick because this is very interesting, I think to
all of us. Uh, So, do you guys know your
blood types? I do not. It came up recently as like,
I know so much random bull crap about like pop
culture and music and movies, but I do not know
my blood type. And it's embarrassing. No, I do not.
I don't know in your blood type. It's it's funny
(30:20):
to hear that because there are many many Um, there
are many people who are in the same situation. Many
human beings are in the same situation, especially in the US.
It doesn't come up often. Right. If you are donating blood,
you should. I'm a little biased, but I think it's
a good thing to do. Uh. If you donate blood,
(30:42):
then you are helping someone that you will never meet,
which is a very very noble thing. Uh. And you
will not be turned away based on your blood type.
You may be turned away for other reasons, which we've
discussed I think in previous either listener mail or strange
news segments. You may be turned away for for other
(31:05):
reasons that this show doesn't doesn't agree with. But in
other parts of the world, blood types are treated very
much the same way that Westerners would treat a a
zodiac sign, right, like, are we all in the Western zodiac?
As it's practice, Now, we're all Leo's right, are we
(31:27):
all roaring and we're in We're in the hat. I
bought this hat just in case people were wondering. I am, yeah,
I'm in factive Leoh. We're all a couple of days
apart in our birthdays, so we're probably the same exact
rising sign right there, like the same exact iteration of Leo.
I have no idea. Hey, you are clueless about blood
(31:47):
type and rice and I see that you know the
organ donor uh note here, But it seems like in
an emergency situation it would be cool to know my
blood type to right, Yes, isn't there can't you ask
them to put that on your license? Isn't that a
boxing at the dyk? It is? It's creepy because you know,
(32:13):
I think most people don't put it on there because
they don't know, because you have to know, they're not
gonna like look it up for you. They're not gonna
do that. I believe that's right. I do believe there
is a thing where you can have your blood type
be on your driver's license. But correct me if I'm wrong,
because I'm wrong planning. You're well, you're absolutely right. Uh,
and we are. We're all in the same I was
(32:34):
gonna say a blood donation ward, We're all in the
same boat as many people listening along today. Your blood
type often is not going to come up the odds
of you, you know, going on a job interview or
going on a first date and having someone ask you
(32:54):
but your blood type? Are you a universal donor are
you one of those people who can take the old blood?
That's probably not gonna come up. If it does, you
are at a very interesting date or a very interesting
job interview. But this idea of blood type has been
(33:15):
I think wilfully misinterpreted by a lot of fans of
UFO extraterrestrial speculation. This is something that Cherishes calling out here.
When Cherish is saying, I am actually not an alien.
My superpowers include the everyday human superpower being kind of clumsy,
(33:39):
the worst acts. Who's discussing these superpowers? I was. I
was trying to look it up, and I couldn't really
find anything other than the pregnancy transfer and the issues
with you know, people that have this blood type and
having to get certain injections to make sure that the
fetus is viable. But what circles are are conjecturing the
this blood type is somehow not at this world right,
it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be the typical ancient
(34:02):
aliens crowd. Which I don't want you guys to die
on this hill with me, but I've been on record
in the past pointing out the racist origins of those
sorts of arguments, because God knows they're not supported by fact.
But the the idea then, or the cognitive leap, is
that because something is more rare than another trait, uh,
(34:26):
it must therefore be even more special. Then science would
indicate for people who have blue eyes. Blue eyes in
the human species, if you're talking about genetic blue eyes,
they largely originate from a mutation in what we would
call Estonia today, and they were just soups popular and
(34:49):
so they spread around. But that doesn't mean there was
an alien involved. There were just a couple of folks,
you know, who had a little up in their appearance
and we're able to capitalize on that. But this does
mean that there are some blood types that are more prevalent.
When we talk about blood types, what we're what we're
(35:11):
really talking about is shorthand for blood group systems, and
there are forty three different blood group systems recognized by
the i s BT, the International Society of Blood Transfusion.
If you're donating blood, and again, please do, you won't
(35:32):
have to worry about which of those forty three types
you might fall into. You can just show up and
hopefully they will know that you're helping to fight the
good fight. R H capital are little H negative refers
to an absence of proteins in your red blood cells.
(35:54):
Every time you bleed, every time you cut your hand
at ritual or in an accident. Uh you are you
are emitting not just one substance. It may look like
one substance, but you're emitting kind of a smoothie of
red blood cells and white blood cells. And as you
point out, Cherished, this comes into play in a big
(36:16):
way when you are a person carrying a child, when
you're expecting, when you're expecting a human child, because you
are r H positive and that's relatively rare, then the
child you are carrying may emit a certain amount of
(36:37):
its blood into your circulatory system. And then if you
have RH negative blood, then that means your body will say, WHOA,
what's all this strange blood? We don't like r H is,
we don't like those proteins around here, and it may
make antibodies that can hurt or kill blood cells that
(36:58):
have those r H proteins. So this is past, you know,
past all the hoodie who and the woo woo of
speculation about extraterrestrial hybrids. This is something that is important
to know. The medicine, the medication that Cherish refers to
r H O gam G A M. This is a
(37:19):
treatment that will prevent the host body. I shouldn't say that,
the expecting parent from making antibodies that attack those RH
positive blood cells, giving your your future progeny a safer home. Right.
And this is creepy to some people because it is
(37:43):
made with human blood. It contains a very small amount
of RH positive proteins. And this feeding that vaccine right
just so, Yes, defeating that small amount of this into
your body system will prevent your immune system from making
(38:03):
permanent standing antibodies that are always going to fight those
r H proteins, and they most importantly will not harm
your child. This is key. Uh, this is also an
opportunity for us to talk about I feel creepy when
(38:24):
I talked about the importance of donating blood. Yeah, I
know it is important. Though it is important, and that's
why I wanted about your blood types. But I think
this is fascinating because you see so many sort of
Peppe Silvia Charlie Day kind of red string conspiracies drawn,
(38:46):
these leaps of logic made when we hear that anyone
has a rare trait, when you hear that someone may
have an extra vertebrate in their spine, when you hear
that someone may have attached other than detached earloads, Like
what are what are some of the physical traits that
(39:06):
you guys have heard of that are rare? Well? Doesn't
that usually like evolutionarily speaking, if there's going to be
a mutation that's going to take off, it needs to
be beneficial, right, Like it needs to do something, yeah,
or not harmful, but mainly beneficial, Like not mainly, but
like if it's beneficial, it's more likely to carry on
because it's you know, the odds are in the favor
(39:28):
of those that have that trait. That's like somehow interacting
with the environment making sure they don't like get killed um.
And again, these kinds of things sort of take a
smaller view in our modern day. But like evolution over time,
a trait that would like literally keep a species from
being killed off but yet caused it to like flourish,
that was much more important in the in the old days,
(39:50):
the old days of evolution. But I'm with you man,
and the idea of bloodlines, for example, just the idea
of blood, purity of blood at all of It's like,
there's all this stuff wrapped up in blood that I
think is fascinating. Isn't there a mutation that causes toes
sometimes to be more elongated and act like be more
(40:14):
like fingers, That would be a really interesting one. We're
talking about different mutations. Yeah, there are mutations specific to that,
I believe there are also mutations that affect all of
the what do they call philanges? Would that be the
word for your little uh maybe just talking about the
(40:36):
human skeleton. But yes, there are there are adaptations that
can be very helpful in one situation and very damaging
in another situation, right, like sickle cell anemia and malaria. Right,
this prevalence of sickle cell anemia comes from and e
(41:00):
llluctionary fight against the horrors of malaria in terms of
for RH negative. If we look at that example, Matt,
do you have that question right. There's also things that
are called like atavisms, which is when someone has their coxix,
(41:21):
which is a hilarious name for the bone of the
human ass, when someone's cock six had in some cases
and some births or in some humans, the the coxics
can protrude making a stumpy little tail. But it's not cool.
It's not prehensile like certain other primates are, like Nightcrawler
(41:44):
and the X Men. It's just something that's gonna make
wearing pants awkward for the kids, so they usually stump
it out for lack of a better Also, like you know,
in the Dark Ages, perhaps makes parents think that their
child is a demon and like just put it out
in the woods, let it die of exposure. I mean
that's like a thing with these traits to the way
humanity and like we interpret them and like what happens,
(42:07):
you know, like over time or even in a short
amount of time, because like our time on this earth
evolutionarily is a joke. It is a blip, you know,
So like oh no, this, this, this aberration or this
like mutation makes me think that there's the devil at work.
So I'm just gonna like kill this jump off and
be fine with it. Also, the uh, they're plenty of
things that the average person might not know about human childbirth,
(42:33):
one being that way more people are born polydactyl with
more than ten fingers, then then you may think, uh,
and those fingers stuff that I want you to know. Look, hey, spoilers,
but but those are usually removed that we're a time,
we've got to go. Uh. We do want to say
that the speculation regarding r H negative blood and purported
(42:57):
extraterrestrial origins is primarily based on just that speculation. There
is no heart proof you're human. You're gonna have the
same trials, travails, and triumphs as the rest of people.
And as Shakespeare quoted, if if you are pricked, you
will bleed. Uh. That's just the human condition. But most
(43:21):
importantly for this case, Cherish, we want to thank you
for giving some firsthand experience with r H negative blood
and for highlighting the importance of any expecting person if
you want to consult with your doctor and make sure
that you and your child are set up for success
(43:42):
thanks also to our anonymous coresponders. Uh, please tell us
what you think about promise, Please tell us about your
experiences with the sticky world of trade craft and geopolitics
and uh, most importantly, Noel Matt, I think we can
just say it conclusively, don't send poop in the mail,
(44:03):
don't send it explicitly. Ask you to make sure they
have a reason their thing, and it's like it's it's
a consensual but again but it don't even do it then,
because then you're you're still involving these these these parties
that are not that would not wish to be part
of that circle. Just take it to their door in
a bag, you know, give it to them wrapped in
(44:23):
a in a gift package and presented to them you know, yeah, yeah,
in way too many boxes. So it's like you're gonna
reduce You're going to reduce the chance that they get
poop on them, but they will definitely smell it in it.
There we go, let the poop breathe. Guys, before we
Leaven want to give you our Leo horoscope from horoscope
(44:47):
dot com because Ben I'll give you flashbacks of writing
these back in the day, because now that we've established
we're all Leo's here's our horoscope. Guys, you're drawn to
public service. It propels you to volunteer your services with
a group of some kind. I think we all have
to go give some blood. I'm terrified of like needles.
When I go to the doctor and they draw blood
(45:08):
for like labs and stuff, I have to look away.
And the lovely you know medical professional that's like doing
it always asked me if I'm okay, there was this
one time to go do you have any pets some
like yep, like what you got like cat? Like I am, like,
I'm terrified. I can't do it. And I have a
thyroid condition so I have to get blood drawn a lot.
But it's a limited amount of blood. So the thought
(45:30):
of like having my blood drained from me like just
indefinitely terrifies me. But you know what Game On Challenge
Accepted says, you're drawn to it, man, So I don't
know drawn from me. I'm not being drawn to anything. Yeah,
I think it is both good and noble to help
(45:50):
people that you will never meet. But I'll take your
blood if you want. You can have as much as
you want, but you gotta get it out. You gotta
get it out yourself, preferably while I'm sleeping, so don't notice.
All right, Well, nothing weird about that. And speaking of
fantastic segways, we hope you enjoyed this week's listener mail segment, folks,
we hope you enjoyed it so much that it inspired
(46:12):
you that the spirit moves you to be a part
of our show. We cannot wait to hear from you.
Take a page from Anonymous, take a call from Anonymous,
Take a tweet from Cherish, even though Cherish emailed, and
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