January 16, 2023 • 51 mins
New research indicates multiple obscure fungal infections are spreading much further than originally thought. On the heels of the attempted coup in Brazil, former president Jair Bolsonaro remains in the United States. Over in Utah, hapless park officials ask people to stop planting strange electronic rigs in mountains near Salt Lake City (spoiler from Ben: I'm pretty sure this is related to crypto). All this and more in this week's Strange News.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of My Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.
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My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called
me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer Alexis
code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you.
You are here and that makes this the stuff they
don't want you to know. It is the top of
the week and we are going global with some strange news.
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Of course, ever since we started this weekly segment, things
have only become stranger, curiouser, and curious er. Uh. This week,
let's see, we're going to Utah, We're going to Uh,
We're going a little international with an ongoing and ongoing
to bacle related to Brazil, and we are going on
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social media as well. But maybe we start with a
p s A A little bit of a stuff they
don't want you to know, Steve Brule Style for your Health. Yes,
sweetberry wine check it out. Uh so well, first of all,
if your flight was delayed this morning, apologies everyone do that.
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F A A has some mornings ahead. Yeah, yeah, it was.
It was the f a a's notice to air missions
system and it went out and it caused massive delays globally.
That's the thing that you know, let's pilots fly and
land safely to all the things that they need to do.
So there was whispers of like, maybe it was an
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attack and maybe it wasn't. I think it wasn't right,
it was just like a good old fashioned out or
internal screw up. Well, it's uh, it's something that's on
people's minds, right because electronic attacks, especially on legacy systems,
are only going to become increasingly common. We had some
had some folks right in uh, particularly Eli shout out
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to you asking whether or not this was a Russian attack,
and if so, would Uncle Sam say anything about it? Honestly,
if there's hard proof, someone probably would have said something. Right,
That's that's the nature of the context. Now. But we
are looking at a possible nationwide air grounding, which is
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very very rare. Well it was, Yeah, it was grounded
for a bit this morning as we were. Yeah, but
it could occur again if that's if that particular system
is targeted, let's say, But we don't have enough information
yet because it just happened, and I don't even know
if anybody would be out there yelling about it yet,
you know, they're like, well, we need to investigate, and
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then it would be oh yeah, it was definitely Iraq. Again,
we need to go back now. I'm just joking. Hopefully
that doesn't happen. Iraq famously hate planes, right, um, so okay,
but this this is a the real p s A
for today. If you were on one of those flights,
maybe recently, and uh, you ended up landing, and then
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sometime later that week after you arrived wherever you live,
and you had a respiratory infection, and you're like, okay,
let's test for COVID. Oh wait, it's not covid. Let's
test for flu. Oh it's not flu. Let's test what
else can we test for? What could it be? Well,
there might be something that you're dealing with, depending on
where you visited within the United States, and it's a
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it's a weird thing. It's something that I was unaware
of until I really started looking into this. But it
could be a fungal infection within your lungs. It's not likely. Look,
we're not going to be the web Md of podcasts
here and make you think any case, any little cough
you got is a fungal infection. But web Md, it's
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cancer exactly. But this is just a kind of a warning.
I guess everybody. It's a possibility. Uh. And it's a
type of infection that, at least according to a couple
of recent I guess their stories more like announcements. Um,
it's it's an infection that may go misdiagnosed or undiagnosed
for a while. So the first thing you need to
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know is that if you are experiencing one of these infections,
it's the kind of thing that you've got a persistent
cough and it just goes on and on and on.
It won't go away. And we're not talking about for
a week. We're talking about for weeks, maybe even months. Um.
That's when you probably would realize, oh, there's something else
going on here. UM. And that's when you should at
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least think about talking to your doctor or shaman or
whoever you use for medical purpose, says uh, talk to
that person about a fungal infection. Hopefully a doctor. Okay,
so so let's jump into this story. The title is uh,
fun guy or fungi that caused serious lung infections are
now found throughout the US. Doctors should be on the
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lookout for the organisms. Researchers say, it's coming to us
from Science News. Uh, you know who tells that they
are independent journalism. Since one, this is speaking about three
specific types of fungus that can cause infection within the
human lawng not that exciting. But the big the big
deal here is the that the fun guy that exists
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within the soil in certain regions of the United States.
For some of them, we're talking about just the southeastern
United States, so kind of the coast of California, going
down into Texas. What's the what's the handle of Texas
called the Little Peninsula thing Florida. It's both Texas in
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hip hop because there we go goes on down to
the third coast and in that area, in the soil,
at least along that coastal region there there's this thing
that's a lot of fun to say, you guys, here
we go, we're all going to learn this together. Um,
it's cocxid Dioides coxidioida, cocxidioides. Yes, it's a type of
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fungi that can be infectious for the lungs of a human.
It's in the soil. So if you're out there working
on the soil and you're not covering your face and
you're not protecting yourself the way you know many of
us do now to protect ourselves against COVID or whatever
other respiratory disease, you can get this stuff in your
lungs and it can be a horrible experience. Um. It
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is not always deadly, but it can be deadly because
it can spread to the point where it um there's
no real operation there. You know, there are ways to
treat these kinds of infections, but they aren't. It's not
like you can just take regular antibiotics and get rid
of this stuff. So these are like airborne spores essentially,
or yeah, it's it's that's the way they get into
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your lungs, right. Uh, the spores are are released as
you're working soil. Think about it that way. As those
particles are being released goes into your lungs. Then it
just starts to uh what do they call I watched
a couple of really dry medical videos on YouTube that
are meant to educate, you know, students who are actually
learning this stuff and then they're gonna take tests and
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then diagnose people. Um. But yeah, it's uh, you can
you can see slides of this type of fungus and
how it creates these really interesting sphere sphericals or spherals
that have a bunch of these tiny little it's they're
not the spores, but their spores sites. I think that's
how you'd say it. They're inside that thing and then
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they burst open with more of these things than they create.
The spherals. They burst open and you just see how
the infection spreads and super creepy off and it can
really wreak havoc on your lungs. It's kind of like
it's the same mechanism for for delivery as in the
game series of The Last of us Um. You'll see
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the actual spores floating around and you know that you're
in a bad area when you see the little guys
kind of like floating around like dandelion dust. And if
if you're in an area where you with human eyes
can literally see spores of any sort, folks, G T
f O. Yes, get out to quote Jordan Peel, but
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now I have I have a question. Your two uh
is part of the problem here that a lot of
the initial symptoms could be so easily confused with other
more familiar things right special kind of time. Absolutely was
watching a video earlier and a woman who experienced histoplasmosis.
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I think it's how you would say it's histoplasma, which
is common in the dirt. If you imagine a map
of the United States and you kind of look at
Ohio um and then kind of make a big circle
in the center of the United States there and kind
of move it down again towards Texas and out towards
like d C, New York, and are in that area.
That whole area, the soil there has the potential to
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carry histoplasma. It's often found in dirt that has constant
bird droppings within it and or bat droppings look kind
of gross, but like if you've got she this person
in particularly watch a video and she bought property that
used to be a turkey farm and it was just
within the soil, and as she reh she got some
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work done on her house, on her back garden, and
that's how she ended up getting We also know that
bird and bat droppings are are used as fertilizer in
a lot of areas and those are really though, that's
that that would be really fertile soil, so that would
not be uncommon, you know, for that stuff to be
mixed in, you know, with the agriculturally tilled soil. Mm hmm.
And and within that video, she states her symptom that
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she experienced for several months, okay, so not just for
a little bit. And they were very similar, as you said,
been to other upper respiratory infections. Uh A cough that
wouldn't go away, pretty constant headache, low grade fever, so
not like one oh two or something, but we're talking
around maybe a hundred constant fatigue, wheezing, and shortness of breath.
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And I don't know about you, guys, but that sounds
an awful lot like symptoms of COVID nineteen, which, by
the way, I'm almost not positive anymore, guys. I get
it once every January. We're gonna just keep doing this.
That's just gonna be the new way, it seems. But
I mean what I was was getting out earlier too,
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and I think then you you had a similar perspective.
Is at a time now where it's like anything remotely
resembling COVID is gonna be the suspicion will be that
it's COVID first and foremost. You know, we're in this
what is it like a like a try over it
kind of pandemic right now or I tri damic or whatever,
where the rs V is a is a thing that
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has is much more common now and it has very
similar symptoms to COVID. So let's just throw in a
weird fungus in there in the mix. And this is
like some Doctor House m d type stuff. To even
discover this was what was going on. I want to
know more about, you know, the detective work that went
into figuring this out. Agreed, that's like the plot twist
and the third act of the House episode, you know.
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He he curmudgeing ly tells someone that you don't have
to worry about the flu. Oh no, you're sick, but
you're sick with the fungus. And we talked in the
past about how how amazing fungus is as a life form.
It um it's one of the most successful and most
likely candidates for extra terrestrial life if you go beyond
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microbes and bacteria. Uh, and it's easy to forget, you
know how how amazing this stuff is at getting into places,
including the human body. And with that, you know, no,
I think you asked one of the million dollar questions here,
which is, yeah, how did they how did they find it?
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Because looking at some of the excellent sources, uh, you
point us to here, Matt, these things were known entities.
These are not surprising new life forms. But there's been
some kind of sea change or paradigm shift that helps
medical experts redefine the problem and the territory. Frankly, if
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we're speaking of it as a living thing, well, yeah,
so here's the major problem. If you're going to diagnose this,
often you have to take a look at somebody's selves,
like get a sample and actually look at it and
see them. You have to see those ferals or I
was talking about the you have to identify the fun guy, um,
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and often medical professionals. By the way, you are a
medical professional, and I'm completely wrong here. Please call me out.
If you have better information, please call in or write
to us. UM. But my understanding is that there were
distribution maps that were generated in the nineteen fifties. There's
one in particular that I think points to nineteen five
when there was a pretty large scale study and maps
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were drawn to show the distribution of these soils containing
these fun guy. And so if you are a medical
professional like a GP who's constantly seeing people in let's
say in Georgia, you may not even think about looking
for these types of fun guy within a patient's respiratory
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system because you don't exist within the areas where that
fungi should exist within the soil, right, you would not,
at least you wouldn't do it unless it was, you know,
a special case. You wouldn't immediately check for it. And
the problem now is that those older distribution maps don't
properly represent where the soil exists where the infections are
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occurring at a higher rate. And the other problem is
that we we science is unsure whether or not those
distribution maps, the newer ones that show in this case
histoplasmosis cases as being all hold across the board where
humans live in great quantities. Um is that because people
are traveling to areas where histoplasmosis is more likely and
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then coming back home and then they have it there
and that's where the case is identified. Let's say traveling
from Ohio to Alabama. Is when when that person gets
back to Alabama and they get a case. Is it
known by the medical professional, if it was if that
person picked it up in Ohio. UM. There's lots of
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questions here, basically, but the headline is that these cases
are happening across the board now within the United States,
of multiple different fungal infections and the Yeah, and I
love that you're outlining some of the questions that g
is to look at this. The travel thing makes a
lot of sense. You mentioned at the top that there
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are three big, three big types of fungus, right, types
of fungal infections that are being reconsidered in terms of infection. Uh.
In at least one case, it looks like we can
trace human to human infection for blasto micosis, because if
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you look at the updated maps, you see that the
rates tend to be around heavily populated areas of the US.
But then fungi or fungi are incredibly diverse, so one
explanation probably doesn't apply to every single case. Was it
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always this way and people just have better diagnostic tools now?
I mean, are the answers there is there a way
to prevent infection? I think that's what a lot of
people are wondering, right, Yeah, and it's something we're kind
of used to now. And I'm sad to say to guys, Uh,
if you're working outside and soil that has this stuff
in it, or may have this stuff in it, then
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you wear a mask, a surgical mask, one of those
respiratory masks that we're all now used to wearing. Uh,
not all of us. I'm not. I'm still not used
to it. I love it. I think a lot of
people look better with two thirds of their face covered up.
That That's what makes me pro mask. Actually, I think
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I look way better with a mask on. I'm like,
I got so spoiled by not having to see stranger's mouths,
you know what I mean? No, but no, Just the
whole point is it could be a problem if you
are experiencing a longer than usual period where you're going
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through this coffee you just can't get rid of. It's
something to think about because it could be, you know,
a thousand other things. It could be you know, you're
developing asthma at a later stage in your life, which
is a possibility. Family members that have gone through that.
There's all kinds of things could be going on. Uh,
that's why we always say, consult with a doctor, somebody
who not only watched those videos that I just went
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through today, but did it for years of their life
and then sat through I don't even know how many
years of a professor at the front of a room
describing these things and looking through slides. Go talk to
one of those people. Yeah, they're pretty cool, and just
make sure they are armed with all the information about you,
like where did you travel, how long have you been
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experiencing it. Just be open with them and hopefully if
you've got one of these infections, you can get rid
of it lickety split. Oh and last thing, Noel, you
already kind of spoiled this a little bit, but I'm
not mad at you because you were right on with
it as this episode comes out. Last night, the first
episode of the Last of Us premiered on HBO, and uh,
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I'm telling you right now, as a time traveler, I
just got done watching it and I'm super excited about it.
Video game adaptations typically aren't the best, but this is
the guy that did Chernobyl Craig mazin Um a really
really talented creator and showrunners. So which is you know
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that those This is definitely one of those games. It's like,
you know, uh, plot heavily plot driven. So I'm interested
to see if they change some things up to make
it kind of a little more interesting to folks who
have played all the games. I hope they do, but
I'm very excited about them. I think they spend some
time in the pre infection world. But like as you said, uh,
no spoilers. I think we all love the game and
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don't be the last of us to tune into this show. Yeah,
here are some ads and we have returned. This is
a story that we're gonna We're gonna paint it as
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a bit of a miss, which it technically still is. Uh,
and then we're going to go with a likely answer.
But fellow conspiracy realist, we want to hear your thoughts. Now.
A lot of our fellow listeners have hit us up
on Facebook here's where it gets crazy, on Instagram, on Twitter, uh,
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to ask us about something that's been in the news.
You see for a little while now. For a number
of years, the strange and Tenna rigs have been popping
up in Utah in kind of inhospitable areas close to
Salt Lake City, but not the kind of place where
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you would just take a walk for fun. And before
we start out with this, Matt Noll, have you all
visited Utah? Uh? Yeah, I know, quick layover when a
flight was canceled or something. And I just think I
mentioned before flying into Salt Lake City over that part
of the country remarkable to behold. It really looks like
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another planet, I don't think so. Okay, yeah, yeah, I
have flown over it. Yes, yeah, which is why people
in the U s sometimes called that part of the
world flyover country. All those liberal elitists in there and
their bubbles ignoring the flyovers get these coastalities. Yeah, so,
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which is a real thing. Coastal elites are things. We've
had to deal with them on the show before. But
uh it Utah, which is as as you guys said,
a beautiful picturesque landscape. You'll you'll see that there are
some cultural aspects that are relatively unique in comparison to
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the other forty nine states of the US. Utah is
the seat the headquarters of the Church of Latter day
Saints Jesus Christ Church of Latter day Saint, commonly called
the Mormons by people outside of that belief system, and
sometimes that becomes a stereotype for Utah, and if you
ever visit the area, you will definitely see the cultural
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stamp of that belief system. And it's not, you know,
it's not necessarily bad or anything. It's not like you
have to dress a certain way when you are at
the Salt Lake City Airport or anything like that. But
people have historically kept you talk, kind of a world apart,
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you know. Uh. And interestingly enough to going back to
the idea of fungal infection, Matt, at least one of
those fungal infection maps shows that Utah is one of
the places that doesn't have a particular fungal infection wheels
within wheels. So let's say you're in Salt Lakes today.
Let's say you're an old brown flight out delayed, and
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you say, I'm gonna go explore outside and go round outside.
Maybe you rent a car, maybe go on a hike.
You're out in some of those beautiful mountains, and then
you see a pretty serious antenna attached to what looks
to be a solar panel, all rigged up to black
box of electronics. What's that about? I say to myself,
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what's that about? You say to yourself. Uh, for a
while people have been wondering the same thing, and the
news really picked up in January. Uh, we we saw
a couple of different really enticing but unsupported pieces of speculation.
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You know, fans of Red Dawn might say, is this
a way for spies to communicate? Are these you know,
mini number stations which would be cool? But they're not, Yeah,
because they're just bolted to the ground right or to
the earth right, and unlike electricity substation, there not protected
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by a chain link fence or anything. They don't have
a chain link fence system to a tiny not happening,
a tiny, little shin high chain link fence. Uh. They
also they're also not authorized, right they're using solar panels,
which they're typically in the US. You're going to have
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some sort of legal process you have to get involved
with right to have alternative energy like that. I mean,
let's not forget that there are laws in different parts
of this country that don't allow people to collect rainwater.
So these solar panels are kind of gutty a style.
They're off the grid, and people are still trying to
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figure out who built these and why the number station
thing by the way, we couldn't find that didn't seem
to hold any sand or solar power in this case.
But we do have a little bit of an answer,
and it's an answer that ties into some stuff. Um
it ties into things we wouldn't expect. Something we've been
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talking about a lot on the on the show recently
crypto what if? Yeah? What if? What if these antenna
and they're accoutremal are tied in some way to a cryptocurrency,
like they're mining or something. Yeah, okay, kind of like yeah,
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well right, but those things that they exist in little
they can't exist in mobile units like that. Like I
heard a story in NPR about the first house sold
with the crypto mining station built in, and it had
to do with a currency that involved like these drone
things that were kind of like all space throughout a
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certain area and they could communicate with one another and
then relay the It was specifically my in a particular
type of coin that I'm now forgetting that was spearheaded
by the guy that was selling the house and doing
the NPR the subject of the NPRPS. But you distinctly
remember that this was sort of a new thing where
every time somebody uses something it minds a little bit
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of quiz. It's sort of like that, Ben, I'm really
done not doing any job of describing it, but that's
sort of really rung my bell when you said that
you nailed it, nailed it. This. Uh, this appears to
be a result of something called Helium. The Helium network,
is that's it? Yeah? Yeah, perfect, well done man. Yeah.
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The Helium network was started in twenty thirteen. And the
ideas you build a bunch of hotspots that you can
deploy throughout a region. Uh, and then you will be
able to make you know, it's like step one, set
up your hotspot, set up your nodes, Step two, question mark,
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step three profit classic Internet. Helium got in trouble back
last year, back in July, because they had made some
claims about their customers that appear to be not entirely
above board. Notably, they said they were working with corporate
giants like Salesforce or Lime and uh, neither company was
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able to confirm that relationship. There's a great Vice article
that came out on January six this year by Matthew Galt.
Mysterious Antenna or a period in Utah's Hills and officials
are stumped. And this in here is doing some great
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journalism and notes that people first started clocking these antenna
about a year ago, right, and they're relatively simple machines.
At the Public Lands Department of Salt Lake City has
been pulling them down every time they find them, but
someone keeps putting them back up. It's like toy and
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be tiles, right, Uh. That they're pulling them down not
because they're like mean people like that villain and Footloose
who is just mad about folks dancing. It's because it's
illegal to build structures on public land without permission. And again,
these things are like up in the mountains. Sometimes they're
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not something you would happen across. And they said that
they didn't have the resources or the staffing to look
into what was happening and remove everything. There's one quote
from a guy named Tyler funero Or who is the
manager of trails at Salt Lake City, and in this
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vice article, Tyler says they found these antennas with no
distinguishing marks. They were bolted in. This was bolted into
the stone of the mountain and you needed special tools
right to remove it. And he said the following quote,
we honestly didn't even open the box. We just wanted
it off the hill. Yeah, he's like, I gotta do
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my job. Come on, as if crypto bros could be
more annoying, let's just start cluttering up God's majesty with
little WiFi bots. Uh. I did find the article that
I was referencing from NPR is this dude named uh
let's see Massey. He's like a realtor and a crypto
enthusiasts who you know, made a big thing about selling
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this first house with crypto minor built in. And that's
just to describe how the helium works essentially. Uh It says.
The computer is that box in the closet. It takes
the house's WiFi signal and shares it through an antenna
to be picked up by all kinds of little smart
devices within a few miles range of the house, things
like Internet enabled dog trackers or electric scooters, or water
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sensors for flooding, all the stuff that makes up what
people call the Internet of Things. In return for that
work of sharing signal, the little computer earned some helium,
a cryptocurrency that you can exchange for real dollars, So
it'll make a couple of bucks a day, but basically
by sharing your WiFi um with close range items. Yeah,
it looks like these. This is where we kind of
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solve the mystery without official confirmation. It looks like these
antenna rigs are functioning as repeaters for a wireless network
and you can earn coins earned helium coins by maintaining
that network, and we want to I wanted to keep
this short so we can just say, here's a neat
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mystery that is not about the end of the world
that is probably solved. So is it a conspiracy, Yes,
someone's trying to conspire to make a buck through crypto.
Is it bad? Not necessarily, It's not someone planning a
war or being a water thief. I think we can
end this one a little bit early and get to
our final story in Brazil and Florida. Uh in just
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a moment, I think we end on this. You guys,
Let's go back to Tyler. I'm just I'm loving this
guy's vibe. In his interviews, he sums it up this way.
Talking about the antenna which are definitely associated with helium
right but not officially confirmed. Tyler says the following, As
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long as it's not dangerous. We don't really care. We
just want people to stop doing it so we can
get back to taking care of our lands. He's like,
I maintain trails. I'm man, stop making me the antenna guy.
I don't want to tear down your stuff. You worked
on it, you know what I mean. It's like being
the person who said, who has to say, okay, let's
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take down the Christmas tree, but also stop bolting into
my beautiful mountains and cluttering up my trail with that.
And then he adds, he adds to look, if someone
wanted to put an antenna in the exact same place
for a scientific purpose, we'd probably allow it. He's going, look, guys,
I'm cool. I'm not the bad guy here, but you
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don't have to be mysterious. Just check in. I adventure
that there's never been a bad guy named Tyler. I
just want to put that out there. I think it's
possible and not a bad guy. I'm clear, a little
bit flawed. No spoilers, man, come on, Okay, yeah, exactly,
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all right, Well we don't always have to agree on everything.
That's why we're friends. Uh speaking, uh speaking about checking in,
We're gonna check it in for a work from our sponsors,
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the people, and four of the people. And by and
by that, I mean that on multiple levels, but I
really mean it's a story that all three of us
really brought. Um. This is something that we've all been
paying attention to, UH, and that has a lot of
correlation with a lot of things going on in our country.
How happy and happy insurrection day to you as well,
Ben Um. Yeah, exactly, that is what we're talking about.
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We're talking about an event um not in our country
that very closely parallels, dare we say, mirrors what happened
two years ago today, a essentially an insurrection dare we say,
an attempted coup on our soil in the United States.
And you know, call that hyperbole if you wish, I
(32:46):
personally don't think it is, and I also think that
history will not report it as such. I think it
was very much a dangerous culmination of a lot of things. UH.
The radicalization of individuals here in this country, brought on
a large part by social media and by the ability
to spread misinformation disinformation UM with no checks or balances. UH,
(33:08):
and we are now seeing that happening in other countries,
and this event we're talking about in Brazil is very
much the result of of a lot of that as well,
in addition to a lot of really hyped up UM
rhetoric around kind of mothering individuals who maybe are seen
as less desirable uh in a in a particular country
or within a system population what have you. Um, and
(33:30):
those in power that would seek to further that type
of rhetoric, whether it be through their own speeches, the
kinds of things they themselves post on social media, and
it's sort of spreading a usually self serving UM idea
of what is right, what is fair, you know, who
(33:51):
deserves to win. Oftentimes it will go against the face
of what we know to be free and clear elections
or whatever it might be, or pre existing laws. Um.
And it's very dangerous. You can really push uh, what
what would be seen as a law abiding or lawful
country into a state of lawlessness. Uh. Usually the people
(34:12):
that push it that way kind of tucktail and run
when the time comes to to own up to what
they've done, or you know, to to tell people to
go home and and and be nice and stop, you know,
trying to overturn governments, um, because you think I want
you to. Who were talking about. We're talking about a
guy by the name Jayir bol Cinaro, the recently defeated
(34:35):
president of Brazil. He was defeated in a democratic election
by a candidate by the name of Louise In Nazio
Lula da Silva m Who is you know more more
of a left wing candidate as far as that country's
you know, sense of left wing and right wing go. Uh.
(34:56):
Bolsonaro has often been compared to Donald Trump in terms
of his rhetoric, his policy, and just his personality. Very
prone to self aggrandizing bluster and uh, potentially dangerous rhetoric
and not necessarily beholden super hardcore to the truth. Um.
And he got his people stirred up, much like we
(35:19):
saw with the January six one September march on the
US Capitol. Uh and how Trump said, you know, I'll
be with you, go march to the to the Capitol
and all that. But this one was a little different
because it happened several months after the election UM as
opposed to in an effort to overturn the election, So
a little unclear as to what the goal was here, um,
(35:42):
but it used similar rhetoric in terms like stop the
steel and a lot of concern over the idea of
rigged ballots and manipulating election results and all of that,
which resulted in a lot of organization through apps like
Telegram I believe of which is encrypted, you know, and
(36:02):
ten communication. It's often used for lots of illegal activities,
from drug dealing to perhaps even you know, terrorists type
conversations to um organizing you know, where you don't want
to be spied on. Uh, And that is exactly what happened.
We already know there were blockades on October after Bosnara
(36:22):
was was was defeated. The blocked major highways across Brazil,
and then those eventually turned into these kind of stolen
election demonstrations. But let's let's stop there. Did you guys
have anything else to add just about how the event
itself mirrors what we saw over here, and then we
can kind of get into the social media aspect. Not
to mention what has happened with Boilsonaro himself. I just
(36:44):
give you my only understanding. I haven't been keeping up
on this as much as you guys. But my understanding
was that the latest actions took place almost maybe almost
immediately after the inauguration of the new the incoming returning president,
because remember Lula was president in the past exactly right,
(37:07):
but not in the previous start. Now, my understanding was that,
I mean, there's a there's a really great article. It's
sort of the primary reporting on a lot of this
is on the Washington Post by Elizabeth uh Doe skin
or do skin DW S K I N and UM.
According to her reporting, the inauguration took place last week. UM,
as we sit here on January eleven, with with very
(37:29):
little incidents. UM, it wasn't until several weeks later that
the online calls for you know, for rising up and
violence and all of that began to to really take hold.
And then we've seen the riots taking place just a
couple of days ago over the weekend on Sunday. Yeah,
there's I think there's a larger context is too. I'm
(37:50):
really glad we're talking about this because what we're seeing
is something that has been predicted, not by the people
you would expect for a number of years, the rise
of right wing authoritarian governments using uh, using a lot
of hidden hand type of money. Like, I love that
(38:11):
you're pointing out the funding question, know all about keeping
stuff off the grid? Uh, not raised too many flags
while we get these people on these buses. Let's also
remember there was an attempted coup in Germany. Let's talk
about Peru, right, let's talk about d c uh. And
when I say not the folks you might expect predicting
(38:33):
this sort of stuff for years, they were people that
would generally there were there were people on what you
would consider the far left, but there were also people
on the very far pro fascist right who were predicting this,
and they were doing it as fan boys. So it's
a very strange thing for them to be correct about.
(38:53):
So I I think there's a larger mechanism at play.
It's bigger than one country. And I don't know what
they and what the trend is, I mean, depending on
how it works out, Like how is is Brazil handling
this the same way that the US was? What are
they saying? I think? Uh? Former President Donald Trump was
in the United States for the entirety of the January
(39:17):
six events. Right, what about this guy, Well, he took
off Okay, yeah, he took off to Florida, and I'm
frankly surprised that he wasn't reported, you know, having dinner Mr.
Lago with like you know, Kanye West and Milanopolis or something. Um,
but he was hanging out with an mm A fighter
(39:40):
or a former mm A fight. Yeah that's right. Uh correct,
Jose Aldo. Uh in his home. He put him up
Bolsonaro and Ben, you're the first person I saw posting.
But this just like videos of Bolsonaro just listlessly wandering
around Publix, which is kind of a Southern thing. I say,
I realized, like public is kind of a Florida thing. Um.
(40:02):
I recently had my first pub sub yesterday. Public sub
very very high quality, pretty good. But I don't think
I don't think Bolsonaro had a pub sub because he
was also seen dressed in the same clothes, just ravenously
gnawing on some KFC like yeah, housing it for sure,
and um some other There were a couple of other sightings,
(40:24):
you know. But the thing that I thought was most
interesting with the Internet kind of took and ran with
is that in the home of a former UFC rather
not m M a UFC fighter, Jose Aldo, one of
the bedrooms is like entirely Minions themed. We can neither
confirm nor deny that Bolsonaro slept in that room. It's
it's you know, hard to not imagine that. It's weird too,
(40:47):
because you know a lot of people, depending on the
things that you support or oppose, you may already have
a preformed opinion about Bolsonado And I've been anti that
guy for a minute, just to be honest, and it's
just my opinion because I didn't care for his his
(41:08):
stance on the Amazon rainforest. Yeah, basically turned the politics aside.
Human civilization needs the Amazon to be a thing just
for ventilation, you forget, biodiversity to breathe a millions necessary
and they obviously a ton of it is right there,
you know, in Brazil, and he was very much trying
(41:29):
to do away with any protections on it and the
interest of you know, developing it for use for commercial use,
whether it be for resources or who knows how far
it could have gone. Also very much anti or vaccine skeptic. Uh,
quite a bit of a race bader, you know, really
had some some nasty compunctions as a politician. But much
(41:50):
like we saw here with you know, this divisive election
and in previous elections, the idea that perhaps social media
almost glommed onto this, this algorithm, these algorithms that govern
these various social media platforms like Twitter specifically, uh, Facebook,
Big One, um, you know, and others. Now we've got TikTok,
(42:12):
which is you know, more focused at that the kids,
but that these algorithms tend to steer people towards rather
than away from radicalizing sources. Um. For example in Brazil
where you know, Elon Musk recently came out you know,
full support of Brazilian Brasilian democracy and then this is
(42:32):
a horrible thing, but also you know, stripped Brazil's Twitter
wing of all the content moderators that could have potentially
prevented these kinds of things from happening. So talking on
a both sides of his mouth lit because when you
would type in things like ballot or election, it would
like auto complete to rigged ballot and stolen election. So
(42:54):
again you know, it's a chicken or the egg question, right,
Like as we know, how like Google instant results that
are I guess one would think based on the frequency
of people searching for things. So if something searched for enough,
then the algorithm thinks that's right, or that's like, you
know what people want to be searching for, So you
can't necessarily say they're doing this on purpose, but they're
(43:15):
certainly not preventing it from happening. True, And then it
becomes the argument of the argument of whether social media
discourse is a privately owned club that allows members or
whether it is a public good, and the answer to
that question both it always changes depending on what is
(43:38):
most convenient for the owners of those platforms. I also
want to say, just to get in front of some
of the emails we're going to get, also want to
say that, folks, please don't be please don't get it twisted.
We are also very well aware of the numerous numerous
accusations of corruption in the previous Lula administration. This is
(44:04):
not some shining messiah on a hill by any means.
I think we've always been pretty clear that while certain
candidates or or or politicians may be more divisive publicly,
it's all kind of all the same puppet show, you
know what I mean. I don't really think you're getting
radical change in one direction or the other depending on
(44:26):
who's sitting in that seat. Uh, that's just I think
that's what we're talking about. The band one direction a million. Yeah,
but speaking of speaking of bands, I don't know, we
we can definitely, you know, take this in a number
of directions. But you mentioned that the idea of this
type of thing has been predicted. Um, you know, whether
it's this specifically in Brazil, what's happened here in America,
(44:50):
or just in general, it has been. But here's a
good take from someone you might not expect from nineteen
eight six from an episode of Crossfire on a debate
on censorship. The musician and thinker and uh just absolute
kind of you know, um renaissance man Frank Zappa had
(45:11):
this to say, the biggest threat to America today in
is not communism. It's moving America towards a fascist theocracy.
And everything that's happened during the Reagan administration is steering
us right down that pipe. I really think that when
you have a government that prefers a certain moral code
derived from a certain religion, and that moral code turns
(45:33):
into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view,
and if that code happens to be very very right wing,
almost toward a till of the un h M. Well,
I'm just saying I think that's a pretty interesting take
in Vince Zappa is a devisive figure in and of himself,
But I mean, he did have some really interesting predictions
(45:53):
about the music business, about you know, the nature of
recording and creativity, and this one I think kind of
nails it. Guys, I I hear you, but I really
can't get Jared Carmichael's joke about scientology out of my head,
did you guys? In everybody's head? No, I'm not going
to repeat his joke. I refused to do it. It
(46:16):
was a it was at the Golden Globes and he
had some several golden globes in his hands. He said
they were from a certain actor who is a high
ranking member within scientology, talking about Mr Sup. Yeah, I
heard that he returned them. Well, yeah he did. He
returned them, but then under the controversy with the Hollywood
(46:38):
Foreign Press. But Jared's joke was about well maybe we
can you know, basically pawing knees and use that money
to find out where Shelley Miscavage is. Basically it was
a joke about finding a person that actually law enforcement
says is quote fine, she's fine. Stop asking they're fine, right, Okay,
(47:03):
I gotta be honest. I'm so unplugged from the Golden
Globes and the concept of celebrity. I heard one n
p rps covering it and saw a few pictures. When
I did see that image and references to Chelly miscabbage jokes,
that's all I heard, my own positive No, I heard
my folks from everything everywhere all at once got some shine,
well deserved. Right. People say the Golden Globes are like
(47:24):
a precursor of the Oscars, but they've really been mired
in uh you know, bull shnip because of some allegations
and justifiably so, of racism by the Hollywood Foreign Press
Association because of zero members of color and just you know,
Draw Carmich literally said I'm here today because I'm black. Um,
you know, so they it's very interesting they can they
(47:45):
would even allow that kind of commentary on their own
organization to take place, but they kind of have to.
They gotta take their lumps. You know, this is this
is good news, because Matt, when you started to set
this up, I was worried that you were gonna again
say I'm not telling you why I have to go
to Brazil, which which is you know, we don't want
to pry, but I hope you had a good No,
(48:07):
he's not in his head. I'm not gonna let that
joke fly. I don't have I don't have anything going
on right now, no travel. Okay, So, uh, scientology, you
know we should we should do an update on that,
especially on the Miskevich situation, because it is it is strange,
is it not? Because I can't find David either right
(48:27):
now that there's several people trying to serve him and
they're unable to do it. And also Masterson just had
a mistrial in those sexual assault cases. Right. Uh? Okay,
so this is a good teaser for us. Well, I
just want to ask the most important guys. And then
no one's talking about where is jaw rule? Where is jended?
(48:50):
Someone to make sense of? You have something to say
about all this jo with that, that's a perfect endor.
With that, we're going into call it a day, a
sunrise or a sunset, depending on your schedule of torpor. Uh.
We can't wait to hear your thoughts. What's going on
(49:10):
in Utah? What's your take on fungal infections? And perhaps
most importantly, let us know what you think about the
story you were bringing the old regarding Wilsonaro traveling outside
of his own country amid of what could only be
a cop attempt. He's also not well. Wilsonaro was notoriously
(49:32):
a bit sickly and apparently that KFC didn't do him
any favors. So uh, they are saying he's probably gonna
be returning back to Brazil sooner than later to get
like medical treatment. Right. He was hospitalized right for a
dominable pain. So we want to hear your take on
all things global and local. Also special shout out to
(49:54):
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prescient smart music, and shout out to Frank Zappa. That's
(50:16):
beautiful that we got a Zappa shout out today. No,
I think that quote is precident as well. Uh, and
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Of course, ever since we started this weekly segment, things
have only become stranger, curiouser, and curious er. Uh. This week,
let's see, we're going to Utah, We're going to Uh,
We're going a little international with an ongoing and ongoing
to bacle related to Brazil, and we are going on
(01:09):
social media as well. But maybe we start with a
p s A A little bit of a stuff they
don't want you to know, Steve Brule Style for your Health. Yes,
sweetberry wine check it out. Uh so well, first of all,
if your flight was delayed this morning, apologies everyone do that.
(01:33):
F A A has some mornings ahead. Yeah, yeah, it was.
It was the f a a's notice to air missions
system and it went out and it caused massive delays globally.
That's the thing that you know, let's pilots fly and
land safely to all the things that they need to do.
So there was whispers of like, maybe it was an
(01:54):
attack and maybe it wasn't. I think it wasn't right,
it was just like a good old fashioned out or
internal screw up. Well, it's uh, it's something that's on
people's minds, right because electronic attacks, especially on legacy systems,
are only going to become increasingly common. We had some
had some folks right in uh, particularly Eli shout out
(02:15):
to you asking whether or not this was a Russian attack,
and if so, would Uncle Sam say anything about it? Honestly,
if there's hard proof, someone probably would have said something. Right,
That's that's the nature of the context. Now. But we
are looking at a possible nationwide air grounding, which is
(02:37):
very very rare. Well it was, Yeah, it was grounded
for a bit this morning as we were. Yeah, but
it could occur again if that's if that particular system
is targeted, let's say, But we don't have enough information
yet because it just happened, and I don't even know
if anybody would be out there yelling about it yet,
you know, they're like, well, we need to investigate, and
(03:00):
then it would be oh yeah, it was definitely Iraq. Again,
we need to go back now. I'm just joking. Hopefully
that doesn't happen. Iraq famously hate planes, right, um, so okay,
but this this is a the real p s A
for today. If you were on one of those flights,
maybe recently, and uh, you ended up landing, and then
(03:24):
sometime later that week after you arrived wherever you live,
and you had a respiratory infection, and you're like, okay,
let's test for COVID. Oh wait, it's not covid. Let's
test for flu. Oh it's not flu. Let's test what
else can we test for? What could it be? Well,
there might be something that you're dealing with, depending on
where you visited within the United States, and it's a
(03:47):
it's a weird thing. It's something that I was unaware
of until I really started looking into this. But it
could be a fungal infection within your lungs. It's not likely. Look,
we're not going to be the web Md of podcasts
here and make you think any case, any little cough
you got is a fungal infection. But web Md, it's
(04:10):
cancer exactly. But this is just a kind of a warning.
I guess everybody. It's a possibility. Uh. And it's a
type of infection that, at least according to a couple
of recent I guess their stories more like announcements. Um,
it's it's an infection that may go misdiagnosed or undiagnosed
for a while. So the first thing you need to
(04:32):
know is that if you are experiencing one of these infections,
it's the kind of thing that you've got a persistent
cough and it just goes on and on and on.
It won't go away. And we're not talking about for
a week. We're talking about for weeks, maybe even months. Um.
That's when you probably would realize, oh, there's something else
going on here. UM. And that's when you should at
(04:55):
least think about talking to your doctor or shaman or
whoever you use for medical purpose, says uh, talk to
that person about a fungal infection. Hopefully a doctor. Okay,
so so let's jump into this story. The title is uh,
fun guy or fungi that caused serious lung infections are
now found throughout the US. Doctors should be on the
(05:17):
lookout for the organisms. Researchers say, it's coming to us
from Science News. Uh, you know who tells that they
are independent journalism. Since one, this is speaking about three
specific types of fungus that can cause infection within the
human lawng not that exciting. But the big the big
deal here is the that the fun guy that exists
(05:39):
within the soil in certain regions of the United States.
For some of them, we're talking about just the southeastern
United States, so kind of the coast of California, going
down into Texas. What's the what's the handle of Texas
called the Little Peninsula thing Florida. It's both Texas in
(06:00):
hip hop because there we go goes on down to
the third coast and in that area, in the soil,
at least along that coastal region there there's this thing
that's a lot of fun to say, you guys, here
we go, we're all going to learn this together. Um,
it's cocxid Dioides coxidioida, cocxidioides. Yes, it's a type of
(06:23):
fungi that can be infectious for the lungs of a human.
It's in the soil. So if you're out there working
on the soil and you're not covering your face and
you're not protecting yourself the way you know many of
us do now to protect ourselves against COVID or whatever
other respiratory disease, you can get this stuff in your
lungs and it can be a horrible experience. Um. It
(06:44):
is not always deadly, but it can be deadly because
it can spread to the point where it um there's
no real operation there. You know, there are ways to
treat these kinds of infections, but they aren't. It's not
like you can just take regular antibiotics and get rid
of this stuff. So these are like airborne spores essentially,
or yeah, it's it's that's the way they get into
(07:07):
your lungs, right. Uh, the spores are are released as
you're working soil. Think about it that way. As those
particles are being released goes into your lungs. Then it
just starts to uh what do they call I watched
a couple of really dry medical videos on YouTube that
are meant to educate, you know, students who are actually
learning this stuff and then they're gonna take tests and
(07:29):
then diagnose people. Um. But yeah, it's uh, you can
you can see slides of this type of fungus and
how it creates these really interesting sphere sphericals or spherals
that have a bunch of these tiny little it's they're
not the spores, but their spores sites. I think that's
how you'd say it. They're inside that thing and then
(07:50):
they burst open with more of these things than they create.
The spherals. They burst open and you just see how
the infection spreads and super creepy off and it can
really wreak havoc on your lungs. It's kind of like
it's the same mechanism for for delivery as in the
game series of The Last of us Um. You'll see
(08:10):
the actual spores floating around and you know that you're
in a bad area when you see the little guys
kind of like floating around like dandelion dust. And if
if you're in an area where you with human eyes
can literally see spores of any sort, folks, G T
f O. Yes, get out to quote Jordan Peel, but
(08:31):
now I have I have a question. Your two uh
is part of the problem here that a lot of
the initial symptoms could be so easily confused with other
more familiar things right special kind of time. Absolutely was
watching a video earlier and a woman who experienced histoplasmosis.
(08:52):
I think it's how you would say it's histoplasma, which
is common in the dirt. If you imagine a map
of the United States and you kind of look at
Ohio um and then kind of make a big circle
in the center of the United States there and kind
of move it down again towards Texas and out towards
like d C, New York, and are in that area.
That whole area, the soil there has the potential to
(09:15):
carry histoplasma. It's often found in dirt that has constant
bird droppings within it and or bat droppings look kind
of gross, but like if you've got she this person
in particularly watch a video and she bought property that
used to be a turkey farm and it was just
within the soil, and as she reh she got some
(09:37):
work done on her house, on her back garden, and
that's how she ended up getting We also know that
bird and bat droppings are are used as fertilizer in
a lot of areas and those are really though, that's
that that would be really fertile soil, so that would
not be uncommon, you know, for that stuff to be
mixed in, you know, with the agriculturally tilled soil. Mm hmm.
And and within that video, she states her symptom that
(10:00):
she experienced for several months, okay, so not just for
a little bit. And they were very similar, as you said,
been to other upper respiratory infections. Uh A cough that
wouldn't go away, pretty constant headache, low grade fever, so
not like one oh two or something, but we're talking
around maybe a hundred constant fatigue, wheezing, and shortness of breath.
(10:24):
And I don't know about you, guys, but that sounds
an awful lot like symptoms of COVID nineteen, which, by
the way, I'm almost not positive anymore, guys. I get
it once every January. We're gonna just keep doing this.
That's just gonna be the new way, it seems. But
I mean what I was was getting out earlier too,
(10:44):
and I think then you you had a similar perspective.
Is at a time now where it's like anything remotely
resembling COVID is gonna be the suspicion will be that
it's COVID first and foremost. You know, we're in this
what is it like a like a try over it
kind of pandemic right now or I tri damic or whatever,
where the rs V is a is a thing that
(11:06):
has is much more common now and it has very
similar symptoms to COVID. So let's just throw in a
weird fungus in there in the mix. And this is
like some Doctor House m d type stuff. To even
discover this was what was going on. I want to
know more about, you know, the detective work that went
into figuring this out. Agreed, that's like the plot twist
and the third act of the House episode, you know.
(11:29):
He he curmudgeing ly tells someone that you don't have
to worry about the flu. Oh no, you're sick, but
you're sick with the fungus. And we talked in the
past about how how amazing fungus is as a life form.
It um it's one of the most successful and most
likely candidates for extra terrestrial life if you go beyond
(11:53):
microbes and bacteria. Uh, and it's easy to forget, you
know how how amazing this stuff is at getting into places,
including the human body. And with that, you know, no,
I think you asked one of the million dollar questions here,
which is, yeah, how did they how did they find it?
(12:13):
Because looking at some of the excellent sources, uh, you
point us to here, Matt, these things were known entities.
These are not surprising new life forms. But there's been
some kind of sea change or paradigm shift that helps
medical experts redefine the problem and the territory. Frankly, if
(12:34):
we're speaking of it as a living thing, well, yeah,
so here's the major problem. If you're going to diagnose this,
often you have to take a look at somebody's selves,
like get a sample and actually look at it and
see them. You have to see those ferals or I
was talking about the you have to identify the fun guy, um,
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and often medical professionals. By the way, you are a
medical professional, and I'm completely wrong here. Please call me out.
If you have better information, please call in or write
to us. UM. But my understanding is that there were
distribution maps that were generated in the nineteen fifties. There's
one in particular that I think points to nineteen five
when there was a pretty large scale study and maps
(13:17):
were drawn to show the distribution of these soils containing
these fun guy. And so if you are a medical
professional like a GP who's constantly seeing people in let's
say in Georgia, you may not even think about looking
for these types of fun guy within a patient's respiratory
(13:39):
system because you don't exist within the areas where that
fungi should exist within the soil, right, you would not,
at least you wouldn't do it unless it was, you know,
a special case. You wouldn't immediately check for it. And
the problem now is that those older distribution maps don't
properly represent where the soil exists where the infections are
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occurring at a higher rate. And the other problem is
that we we science is unsure whether or not those
distribution maps, the newer ones that show in this case
histoplasmosis cases as being all hold across the board where
humans live in great quantities. Um is that because people
are traveling to areas where histoplasmosis is more likely and
(14:24):
then coming back home and then they have it there
and that's where the case is identified. Let's say traveling
from Ohio to Alabama. Is when when that person gets
back to Alabama and they get a case. Is it
known by the medical professional, if it was if that
person picked it up in Ohio. UM. There's lots of
(14:45):
questions here, basically, but the headline is that these cases
are happening across the board now within the United States,
of multiple different fungal infections and the Yeah, and I
love that you're outlining some of the questions that g
is to look at this. The travel thing makes a
lot of sense. You mentioned at the top that there
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are three big, three big types of fungus, right, types
of fungal infections that are being reconsidered in terms of infection. Uh.
In at least one case, it looks like we can
trace human to human infection for blasto micosis, because if
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you look at the updated maps, you see that the
rates tend to be around heavily populated areas of the US.
But then fungi or fungi are incredibly diverse, so one
explanation probably doesn't apply to every single case. Was it
(15:46):
always this way and people just have better diagnostic tools now?
I mean, are the answers there is there a way
to prevent infection? I think that's what a lot of
people are wondering, right, Yeah, and it's something we're kind
of used to now. And I'm sad to say to guys, Uh,
if you're working outside and soil that has this stuff
in it, or may have this stuff in it, then
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you wear a mask, a surgical mask, one of those
respiratory masks that we're all now used to wearing. Uh,
not all of us. I'm not. I'm still not used
to it. I love it. I think a lot of
people look better with two thirds of their face covered up.
That That's what makes me pro mask. Actually, I think
(16:26):
I look way better with a mask on. I'm like,
I got so spoiled by not having to see stranger's mouths,
you know what I mean? No, but no, Just the
whole point is it could be a problem if you
are experiencing a longer than usual period where you're going
(16:48):
through this coffee you just can't get rid of. It's
something to think about because it could be, you know,
a thousand other things. It could be you know, you're
developing asthma at a later stage in your life, which
is a possibility. Family members that have gone through that.
There's all kinds of things could be going on. Uh,
that's why we always say, consult with a doctor, somebody
who not only watched those videos that I just went
(17:10):
through today, but did it for years of their life
and then sat through I don't even know how many
years of a professor at the front of a room
describing these things and looking through slides. Go talk to
one of those people. Yeah, they're pretty cool, and just
make sure they are armed with all the information about you,
like where did you travel, how long have you been
(17:31):
experiencing it. Just be open with them and hopefully if
you've got one of these infections, you can get rid
of it lickety split. Oh and last thing, Noel, you
already kind of spoiled this a little bit, but I'm
not mad at you because you were right on with
it as this episode comes out. Last night, the first
episode of the Last of Us premiered on HBO, and uh,
(17:52):
I'm telling you right now, as a time traveler, I
just got done watching it and I'm super excited about it.
Video game adaptations typically aren't the best, but this is
the guy that did Chernobyl Craig mazin Um a really
really talented creator and showrunners. So which is you know
(18:14):
that those This is definitely one of those games. It's like,
you know, uh, plot heavily plot driven. So I'm interested
to see if they change some things up to make
it kind of a little more interesting to folks who
have played all the games. I hope they do, but
I'm very excited about them. I think they spend some
time in the pre infection world. But like as you said, uh,
no spoilers. I think we all love the game and
(18:37):
don't be the last of us to tune into this show. Yeah,
here are some ads and we have returned. This is
a story that we're gonna We're gonna paint it as
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a bit of a miss, which it technically still is. Uh,
and then we're going to go with a likely answer.
But fellow conspiracy realist, we want to hear your thoughts. Now.
A lot of our fellow listeners have hit us up
on Facebook here's where it gets crazy, on Instagram, on Twitter, uh,
(19:19):
to ask us about something that's been in the news.
You see for a little while now. For a number
of years, the strange and Tenna rigs have been popping
up in Utah in kind of inhospitable areas close to
Salt Lake City, but not the kind of place where
(19:41):
you would just take a walk for fun. And before
we start out with this, Matt Noll, have you all
visited Utah? Uh? Yeah, I know, quick layover when a
flight was canceled or something. And I just think I
mentioned before flying into Salt Lake City over that part
of the country remarkable to behold. It really looks like
(20:03):
another planet, I don't think so. Okay, yeah, yeah, I
have flown over it. Yes, yeah, which is why people
in the U s sometimes called that part of the
world flyover country. All those liberal elitists in there and
their bubbles ignoring the flyovers get these coastalities. Yeah, so,
(20:27):
which is a real thing. Coastal elites are things. We've
had to deal with them on the show before. But
uh it Utah, which is as as you guys said,
a beautiful picturesque landscape. You'll you'll see that there are
some cultural aspects that are relatively unique in comparison to
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the other forty nine states of the US. Utah is
the seat the headquarters of the Church of Latter day
Saints Jesus Christ Church of Latter day Saint, commonly called
the Mormons by people outside of that belief system, and
sometimes that becomes a stereotype for Utah, and if you
ever visit the area, you will definitely see the cultural
(21:11):
stamp of that belief system. And it's not, you know,
it's not necessarily bad or anything. It's not like you
have to dress a certain way when you are at
the Salt Lake City Airport or anything like that. But
people have historically kept you talk, kind of a world apart,
(21:32):
you know. Uh. And interestingly enough to going back to
the idea of fungal infection, Matt, at least one of
those fungal infection maps shows that Utah is one of
the places that doesn't have a particular fungal infection wheels
within wheels. So let's say you're in Salt Lakes today.
Let's say you're an old brown flight out delayed, and
(21:54):
you say, I'm gonna go explore outside and go round outside.
Maybe you rent a car, maybe go on a hike.
You're out in some of those beautiful mountains, and then
you see a pretty serious antenna attached to what looks
to be a solar panel, all rigged up to black
box of electronics. What's that about? I say to myself,
(22:18):
what's that about? You say to yourself. Uh, for a
while people have been wondering the same thing, and the
news really picked up in January. Uh, we we saw
a couple of different really enticing but unsupported pieces of speculation.
(22:38):
You know, fans of Red Dawn might say, is this
a way for spies to communicate? Are these you know,
mini number stations which would be cool? But they're not, Yeah,
because they're just bolted to the ground right or to
the earth right, and unlike electricity substation, there not protected
(23:01):
by a chain link fence or anything. They don't have
a chain link fence system to a tiny not happening,
a tiny, little shin high chain link fence. Uh. They
also they're also not authorized, right they're using solar panels,
which they're typically in the US. You're going to have
(23:24):
some sort of legal process you have to get involved
with right to have alternative energy like that. I mean,
let's not forget that there are laws in different parts
of this country that don't allow people to collect rainwater.
So these solar panels are kind of gutty a style.
They're off the grid, and people are still trying to
(23:44):
figure out who built these and why the number station
thing by the way, we couldn't find that didn't seem
to hold any sand or solar power in this case.
But we do have a little bit of an answer,
and it's an answer that ties into some stuff. Um
it ties into things we wouldn't expect. Something we've been
(24:06):
talking about a lot on the on the show recently
crypto what if? Yeah? What if? What if these antenna
and they're accoutremal are tied in some way to a cryptocurrency,
like they're mining or something. Yeah, okay, kind of like yeah,
(24:30):
well right, but those things that they exist in little
they can't exist in mobile units like that. Like I
heard a story in NPR about the first house sold
with the crypto mining station built in, and it had
to do with a currency that involved like these drone
things that were kind of like all space throughout a
(24:53):
certain area and they could communicate with one another and
then relay the It was specifically my in a particular
type of coin that I'm now forgetting that was spearheaded
by the guy that was selling the house and doing
the NPR the subject of the NPRPS. But you distinctly
remember that this was sort of a new thing where
every time somebody uses something it minds a little bit
(25:19):
of quiz. It's sort of like that, Ben, I'm really
done not doing any job of describing it, but that's
sort of really rung my bell when you said that
you nailed it, nailed it. This. Uh, this appears to
be a result of something called Helium. The Helium network,
is that's it? Yeah? Yeah, perfect, well done man. Yeah.
(25:42):
The Helium network was started in twenty thirteen. And the
ideas you build a bunch of hotspots that you can
deploy throughout a region. Uh, and then you will be
able to make you know, it's like step one, set
up your hotspot, set up your nodes, Step two, question mark,
(26:03):
step three profit classic Internet. Helium got in trouble back
last year, back in July, because they had made some
claims about their customers that appear to be not entirely
above board. Notably, they said they were working with corporate
giants like Salesforce or Lime and uh, neither company was
(26:27):
able to confirm that relationship. There's a great Vice article
that came out on January six this year by Matthew Galt.
Mysterious Antenna or a period in Utah's Hills and officials
are stumped. And this in here is doing some great
(26:48):
journalism and notes that people first started clocking these antenna
about a year ago, right, and they're relatively simple machines.
At the Public Lands Department of Salt Lake City has
been pulling them down every time they find them, but
someone keeps putting them back up. It's like toy and
(27:09):
be tiles, right, Uh. That they're pulling them down not
because they're like mean people like that villain and Footloose
who is just mad about folks dancing. It's because it's
illegal to build structures on public land without permission. And again,
these things are like up in the mountains. Sometimes they're
(27:30):
not something you would happen across. And they said that
they didn't have the resources or the staffing to look
into what was happening and remove everything. There's one quote
from a guy named Tyler funero Or who is the
manager of trails at Salt Lake City, and in this
(27:50):
vice article, Tyler says they found these antennas with no
distinguishing marks. They were bolted in. This was bolted into
the stone of the mountain and you needed special tools
right to remove it. And he said the following quote,
we honestly didn't even open the box. We just wanted
it off the hill. Yeah, he's like, I gotta do
(28:12):
my job. Come on, as if crypto bros could be
more annoying, let's just start cluttering up God's majesty with
little WiFi bots. Uh. I did find the article that
I was referencing from NPR is this dude named uh
let's see Massey. He's like a realtor and a crypto
enthusiasts who you know, made a big thing about selling
(28:33):
this first house with crypto minor built in. And that's
just to describe how the helium works essentially. Uh It says.
The computer is that box in the closet. It takes
the house's WiFi signal and shares it through an antenna
to be picked up by all kinds of little smart
devices within a few miles range of the house, things
like Internet enabled dog trackers or electric scooters, or water
(28:57):
sensors for flooding, all the stuff that makes up what
people call the Internet of Things. In return for that
work of sharing signal, the little computer earned some helium,
a cryptocurrency that you can exchange for real dollars, So
it'll make a couple of bucks a day, but basically
by sharing your WiFi um with close range items. Yeah,
it looks like these. This is where we kind of
(29:19):
solve the mystery without official confirmation. It looks like these
antenna rigs are functioning as repeaters for a wireless network
and you can earn coins earned helium coins by maintaining
that network, and we want to I wanted to keep
this short so we can just say, here's a neat
(29:41):
mystery that is not about the end of the world
that is probably solved. So is it a conspiracy, Yes,
someone's trying to conspire to make a buck through crypto.
Is it bad? Not necessarily, It's not someone planning a
war or being a water thief. I think we can
end this one a little bit early and get to
our final story in Brazil and Florida. Uh in just
(30:06):
a moment, I think we end on this. You guys,
Let's go back to Tyler. I'm just I'm loving this
guy's vibe. In his interviews, he sums it up this way.
Talking about the antenna which are definitely associated with helium
right but not officially confirmed. Tyler says the following, As
(30:30):
long as it's not dangerous. We don't really care. We
just want people to stop doing it so we can
get back to taking care of our lands. He's like,
I maintain trails. I'm man, stop making me the antenna guy.
I don't want to tear down your stuff. You worked
on it, you know what I mean. It's like being
the person who said, who has to say, okay, let's
(30:51):
take down the Christmas tree, but also stop bolting into
my beautiful mountains and cluttering up my trail with that.
And then he adds, he adds to look, if someone
wanted to put an antenna in the exact same place
for a scientific purpose, we'd probably allow it. He's going, look, guys,
I'm cool. I'm not the bad guy here, but you
(31:13):
don't have to be mysterious. Just check in. I adventure
that there's never been a bad guy named Tyler. I
just want to put that out there. I think it's
possible and not a bad guy. I'm clear, a little
bit flawed. No spoilers, man, come on, Okay, yeah, exactly,
(31:39):
all right, Well we don't always have to agree on everything.
That's why we're friends. Uh speaking, uh speaking about checking in,
We're gonna check it in for a work from our sponsors,
and we will return with one more piece of strange news.
And we've returned with a story of the people, by
(32:01):
the people, and four of the people. And by and
by that, I mean that on multiple levels, but I
really mean it's a story that all three of us
really brought. Um. This is something that we've all been
paying attention to, UH, and that has a lot of
correlation with a lot of things going on in our country.
How happy and happy insurrection day to you as well,
Ben Um. Yeah, exactly, that is what we're talking about.
(32:25):
We're talking about an event um not in our country
that very closely parallels, dare we say, mirrors what happened
two years ago today, a essentially an insurrection dare we say,
an attempted coup on our soil in the United States.
And you know, call that hyperbole if you wish, I
(32:46):
personally don't think it is, and I also think that
history will not report it as such. I think it
was very much a dangerous culmination of a lot of things. UH.
The radicalization of individuals here in this country, brought on
a large part by social media and by the ability
to spread misinformation disinformation UM with no checks or balances. UH,
(33:08):
and we are now seeing that happening in other countries,
and this event we're talking about in Brazil is very
much the result of of a lot of that as well,
in addition to a lot of really hyped up UM
rhetoric around kind of mothering individuals who maybe are seen
as less desirable uh in a in a particular country
or within a system population what have you. Um, and
(33:30):
those in power that would seek to further that type
of rhetoric, whether it be through their own speeches, the
kinds of things they themselves post on social media, and
it's sort of spreading a usually self serving UM idea
of what is right, what is fair, you know, who
(33:51):
deserves to win. Oftentimes it will go against the face
of what we know to be free and clear elections
or whatever it might be, or pre existing laws. Um.
And it's very dangerous. You can really push uh, what
what would be seen as a law abiding or lawful
country into a state of lawlessness. Uh. Usually the people
(34:12):
that push it that way kind of tucktail and run
when the time comes to to own up to what
they've done, or you know, to to tell people to
go home and and and be nice and stop, you know,
trying to overturn governments, um, because you think I want
you to. Who were talking about. We're talking about a
guy by the name Jayir bol Cinaro, the recently defeated
(34:35):
president of Brazil. He was defeated in a democratic election
by a candidate by the name of Louise In Nazio
Lula da Silva m Who is you know more more
of a left wing candidate as far as that country's
you know, sense of left wing and right wing go. Uh.
(34:56):
Bolsonaro has often been compared to Donald Trump in terms
of his rhetoric, his policy, and just his personality. Very
prone to self aggrandizing bluster and uh, potentially dangerous rhetoric
and not necessarily beholden super hardcore to the truth. Um.
And he got his people stirred up, much like we
(35:19):
saw with the January six one September march on the
US Capitol. Uh and how Trump said, you know, I'll
be with you, go march to the to the Capitol
and all that. But this one was a little different
because it happened several months after the election UM as
opposed to in an effort to overturn the election, So
a little unclear as to what the goal was here, um,
(35:42):
but it used similar rhetoric in terms like stop the
steel and a lot of concern over the idea of
rigged ballots and manipulating election results and all of that,
which resulted in a lot of organization through apps like
Telegram I believe of which is encrypted, you know, and
(36:02):
ten communication. It's often used for lots of illegal activities,
from drug dealing to perhaps even you know, terrorists type
conversations to um organizing you know, where you don't want
to be spied on. Uh, And that is exactly what happened.
We already know there were blockades on October after Bosnara
(36:22):
was was was defeated. The blocked major highways across Brazil,
and then those eventually turned into these kind of stolen
election demonstrations. But let's let's stop there. Did you guys
have anything else to add just about how the event
itself mirrors what we saw over here, and then we
can kind of get into the social media aspect. Not
to mention what has happened with Boilsonaro himself. I just
(36:44):
give you my only understanding. I haven't been keeping up
on this as much as you guys. But my understanding
was that the latest actions took place almost maybe almost
immediately after the inauguration of the new the incoming returning president,
because remember Lula was president in the past exactly right,
(37:07):
but not in the previous start. Now, my understanding was that,
I mean, there's a there's a really great article. It's
sort of the primary reporting on a lot of this
is on the Washington Post by Elizabeth uh Doe skin
or do skin DW S K I N and UM.
According to her reporting, the inauguration took place last week. UM,
as we sit here on January eleven, with with very
(37:29):
little incidents. UM, it wasn't until several weeks later that
the online calls for you know, for rising up and
violence and all of that began to to really take hold.
And then we've seen the riots taking place just a
couple of days ago over the weekend on Sunday. Yeah,
there's I think there's a larger context is too. I'm
(37:50):
really glad we're talking about this because what we're seeing
is something that has been predicted, not by the people
you would expect for a number of years, the rise
of right wing authoritarian governments using uh, using a lot
of hidden hand type of money. Like, I love that
(38:11):
you're pointing out the funding question, know all about keeping
stuff off the grid? Uh, not raised too many flags
while we get these people on these buses. Let's also
remember there was an attempted coup in Germany. Let's talk
about Peru, right, let's talk about d c uh. And
when I say not the folks you might expect predicting
(38:33):
this sort of stuff for years, they were people that
would generally there were there were people on what you
would consider the far left, but there were also people
on the very far pro fascist right who were predicting this,
and they were doing it as fan boys. So it's
a very strange thing for them to be correct about.
(38:53):
So I I think there's a larger mechanism at play.
It's bigger than one country. And I don't know what
they and what the trend is, I mean, depending on
how it works out, Like how is is Brazil handling
this the same way that the US was? What are
they saying? I think? Uh? Former President Donald Trump was
in the United States for the entirety of the January
(39:17):
six events. Right, what about this guy, Well, he took
off Okay, yeah, he took off to Florida, and I'm
frankly surprised that he wasn't reported, you know, having dinner Mr.
Lago with like you know, Kanye West and Milanopolis or something. Um,
but he was hanging out with an mm A fighter
(39:40):
or a former mm A fight. Yeah that's right. Uh correct,
Jose Aldo. Uh in his home. He put him up
Bolsonaro and Ben, you're the first person I saw posting.
But this just like videos of Bolsonaro just listlessly wandering
around Publix, which is kind of a Southern thing. I say,
I realized, like public is kind of a Florida thing. Um.
(40:02):
I recently had my first pub sub yesterday. Public sub
very very high quality, pretty good. But I don't think
I don't think Bolsonaro had a pub sub because he
was also seen dressed in the same clothes, just ravenously
gnawing on some KFC like yeah, housing it for sure,
and um some other There were a couple of other sightings,
(40:24):
you know. But the thing that I thought was most
interesting with the Internet kind of took and ran with
is that in the home of a former UFC rather
not m M a UFC fighter, Jose Aldo, one of
the bedrooms is like entirely Minions themed. We can neither
confirm nor deny that Bolsonaro slept in that room. It's
it's you know, hard to not imagine that. It's weird too,
(40:47):
because you know a lot of people, depending on the
things that you support or oppose, you may already have
a preformed opinion about Bolsonado And I've been anti that
guy for a minute, just to be honest, and it's
just my opinion because I didn't care for his his
(41:08):
stance on the Amazon rainforest. Yeah, basically turned the politics aside.
Human civilization needs the Amazon to be a thing just
for ventilation, you forget, biodiversity to breathe a millions necessary
and they obviously a ton of it is right there,
you know, in Brazil, and he was very much trying
(41:29):
to do away with any protections on it and the
interest of you know, developing it for use for commercial use,
whether it be for resources or who knows how far
it could have gone. Also very much anti or vaccine skeptic. Uh,
quite a bit of a race bader, you know, really
had some some nasty compunctions as a politician. But much
(41:50):
like we saw here with you know, this divisive election
and in previous elections, the idea that perhaps social media
almost glommed onto this, this algorithm, these algorithms that govern
these various social media platforms like Twitter specifically, uh, Facebook,
Big One, um, you know, and others. Now we've got TikTok,
(42:12):
which is you know, more focused at that the kids,
but that these algorithms tend to steer people towards rather
than away from radicalizing sources. Um. For example in Brazil
where you know, Elon Musk recently came out you know,
full support of Brazilian Brasilian democracy and then this is
(42:32):
a horrible thing, but also you know, stripped Brazil's Twitter
wing of all the content moderators that could have potentially
prevented these kinds of things from happening. So talking on
a both sides of his mouth lit because when you
would type in things like ballot or election, it would
like auto complete to rigged ballot and stolen election. So
(42:54):
again you know, it's a chicken or the egg question, right,
Like as we know, how like Google instant results that
are I guess one would think based on the frequency
of people searching for things. So if something searched for enough,
then the algorithm thinks that's right, or that's like, you
know what people want to be searching for, So you
can't necessarily say they're doing this on purpose, but they're
(43:15):
certainly not preventing it from happening. True, And then it
becomes the argument of the argument of whether social media
discourse is a privately owned club that allows members or
whether it is a public good, and the answer to
that question both it always changes depending on what is
(43:38):
most convenient for the owners of those platforms. I also
want to say, just to get in front of some
of the emails we're going to get, also want to
say that, folks, please don't be please don't get it twisted.
We are also very well aware of the numerous numerous
accusations of corruption in the previous Lula administration. This is
(44:04):
not some shining messiah on a hill by any means.
I think we've always been pretty clear that while certain
candidates or or or politicians may be more divisive publicly,
it's all kind of all the same puppet show, you
know what I mean. I don't really think you're getting
radical change in one direction or the other depending on
(44:26):
who's sitting in that seat. Uh, that's just I think
that's what we're talking about. The band one direction a million. Yeah,
but speaking of speaking of bands, I don't know, we
we can definitely, you know, take this in a number
of directions. But you mentioned that the idea of this
type of thing has been predicted. Um, you know, whether
it's this specifically in Brazil, what's happened here in America,
(44:50):
or just in general, it has been. But here's a
good take from someone you might not expect from nineteen
eight six from an episode of Crossfire on a debate
on censorship. The musician and thinker and uh just absolute
kind of you know, um renaissance man Frank Zappa had
(45:11):
this to say, the biggest threat to America today in
is not communism. It's moving America towards a fascist theocracy.
And everything that's happened during the Reagan administration is steering
us right down that pipe. I really think that when
you have a government that prefers a certain moral code
derived from a certain religion, and that moral code turns
(45:33):
into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view,
and if that code happens to be very very right wing,
almost toward a till of the un h M. Well,
I'm just saying I think that's a pretty interesting take
in Vince Zappa is a devisive figure in and of himself,
But I mean, he did have some really interesting predictions
(45:53):
about the music business, about you know, the nature of
recording and creativity, and this one I think kind of
nails it. Guys, I I hear you, but I really
can't get Jared Carmichael's joke about scientology out of my head,
did you guys? In everybody's head? No, I'm not going
to repeat his joke. I refused to do it. It
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was a it was at the Golden Globes and he
had some several golden globes in his hands. He said
they were from a certain actor who is a high
ranking member within scientology, talking about Mr Sup. Yeah, I
heard that he returned them. Well, yeah he did. He
returned them, but then under the controversy with the Hollywood
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Foreign Press. But Jared's joke was about well maybe we
can you know, basically pawing knees and use that money
to find out where Shelley Miscavage is. Basically it was
a joke about finding a person that actually law enforcement
says is quote fine, she's fine. Stop asking they're fine, right, Okay,
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I gotta be honest. I'm so unplugged from the Golden
Globes and the concept of celebrity. I heard one n
p rps covering it and saw a few pictures. When
I did see that image and references to Chelly miscabbage jokes,
that's all I heard, my own positive No, I heard
my folks from everything everywhere all at once got some shine,
well deserved. Right. People say the Golden Globes are like
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a precursor of the Oscars, but they've really been mired
in uh you know, bull shnip because of some allegations
and justifiably so, of racism by the Hollywood Foreign Press
Association because of zero members of color and just you know,
Draw Carmich literally said I'm here today because I'm black. Um,
you know, so they it's very interesting they can they
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would even allow that kind of commentary on their own
organization to take place, but they kind of have to.
They gotta take their lumps. You know, this is this
is good news, because Matt, when you started to set
this up, I was worried that you were gonna again
say I'm not telling you why I have to go
to Brazil, which which is you know, we don't want
to pry, but I hope you had a good No,
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he's not in his head. I'm not gonna let that
joke fly. I don't have I don't have anything going
on right now, no travel. Okay, So, uh, scientology, you
know we should we should do an update on that,
especially on the Miskevich situation, because it is it is strange,
is it not? Because I can't find David either right
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now that there's several people trying to serve him and
they're unable to do it. And also Masterson just had
a mistrial in those sexual assault cases. Right. Uh? Okay,
so this is a good teaser for us. Well, I
just want to ask the most important guys. And then
no one's talking about where is jaw rule? Where is jended?
(48:50):
Someone to make sense of? You have something to say
about all this jo with that, that's a perfect endor.
With that, we're going into call it a day, a
sunrise or a sunset, depending on your schedule of torpor. Uh.
We can't wait to hear your thoughts. What's going on
(49:10):
in Utah? What's your take on fungal infections? And perhaps
most importantly, let us know what you think about the
story you were bringing the old regarding Wilsonaro traveling outside
of his own country amid of what could only be
a cop attempt. He's also not well. Wilsonaro was notoriously
(49:32):
a bit sickly and apparently that KFC didn't do him
any favors. So uh, they are saying he's probably gonna
be returning back to Brazil sooner than later to get
like medical treatment. Right. He was hospitalized right for a
dominable pain. So we want to hear your take on
all things global and local. Also special shout out to
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Stickman of Dead pres who recently experienced some catastrophic flooding
but is yeah, but is doing well from what we
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prescient smart music, and shout out to Frank Zappa. That's
(50:16):
beautiful that we got a Zappa shout out today. No,
I think that quote is precident as well. Uh, and
maybe we can hear more from our fellow conspiracy realist.
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