November 16, 2025 • 37 mins
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-- In leaked information, Ruger reveals it is bringing back the beloved Red Label over and under shotgun.
-- Tom passes up a shot at a mule deer buck, but it really wasn't a failure.
-- We may miss guns that have been dropped by the manufacturers, but they usually are replaced by even better ones.
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-- In leaked information, Ruger reveals it is bringing back the beloved Red Label over and under shotgun.
-- Tom passes up a shot at a mule deer buck, but it really wasn't a failure.
-- We may miss guns that have been dropped by the manufacturers, but they usually are replaced by even better ones.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
So you've made it through three hours of the regular
show on terrestrial radio and you wanted a little bit more.
So that's why you found the gun Talk after show
podcast where we saved all the best things that we
can't say on regular radio. Now here's Tom, Michelle and
Jim for the gun Talk after Show.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hey guys, it's Jim and Michelle.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It is Hello. Who are you announcer?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I don't know, I just yeah, hanging around here. I
had a better offer, but I said no, I gotta
go do the show anyway. It's fine, it's the after show.
This is gun Talk. I'm Tom. Guess what blah blah blah,
Save old bang.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hey, we got to welcome Brandon, Tom our high energy
new listener from Carlinville and Carlonville, Illinois. The gentleman we
spoke to about the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
He's the nine s and he was stoked.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
He's just full of energy.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Man. It's good to an s R nine, which he
thought somehow he didn't want to carry. But I'm thinking, man,
I love the pistol. Shot.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's a great pistol. Yeah, loves that too, yep.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I mean it's a shooter's gun. It feels good. And
I don't even think they'll make it anymore, are they?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I don't know. I don't know, but it is. Look,
it is the right size. It is a perfect size grip.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I agree that good they were. I think they were
maybe early on. I mean, look here, Yeah, there is
no SR. Nine pistol in the lineup, Ruger. It is gone.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's too bad.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's a shame.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, you know. It was kind of reminiscent of the
old P series, the eighty fives, the eighty nine's, you know,
but not as chunky, correct yep.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, those were big, blocky things, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But everything was then well you're right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I was, you know, and then the and the glock
came along and it was chunky, but nobody cared because
everything else was chunky except for the nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
No, nineteen eleven. That thing might stick around.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I don't know, you know. And I thought that Larry
Vickers really nailed it a couple of weeks ago because
I mean he's a block guy, a FN guy, you know,
a tactical guy. I said, what about the nineteen eleven?
He says, the nineteen eleven is an enthusiast's gun. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Remember, Yeah, that's a good.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Way to put he said. He says, it's like having
a classic car. You got to work on it. You
got to make sure it runs right. I mean, if
you do and it works for you, it's wonderful and
they're a lot of fun to have. But his point,
and I get it from what he'd talk about, is
if you just want to fight and gon and go
get your plastic fantastic and go at it right.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Right for a number of reasons.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, yeah, they'll take a lot more abuse, right, they'll shoot. Yeah, yeah,
right right there, they they do just keep running.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean that's the thing. And you do have to
maintain a nineteen eleven. But if we could just have
one of those plastic fantastics that has a nineteen eleven.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Trigger and the allure yeah yeah, I mean that is it.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I mean, once you get to shooting, when you go, man,
that trigger is awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Grip angle to the angles, the grip.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Bingle's part of it. But what people don't really understand
is that with your standard trigger that's hinged at the top,
and so the trigger is swinging on the hinges at
the top, the geometry changes the entire your time you're
pulled the trigger. With a nineteen eleven, it is on
two bars and just slides backwards and forwards. It doesn't
(04:09):
pivot at all, and so the geometry never changes, so
you just press backwards, straight back. It's like pushing a
button going straight back. And that's part of the secret.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Sauce, secret sauce.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
That's right. It's kind of binary on or off, but
it's got slack still.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well, it does have a little slack, little but not
a lot. I mean, you can dial that out. And
the question is do you want to right, do you
want a little bit of take up on it.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
When you have your gun dialed in different than you
know everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's like Bill Offwards when they called
a couple of weeks ago from Cinder and Slide and
he said, well, we're gonna have the trigger set up
for you know, about four and a half pounds.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I said, no, no, I need something.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I want twice that because I want I want more trigger.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Pull could you send it just kind of gummed up.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I want is Look, I'm paying for this. I want
all the trigger pull I can get for my money.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I want to know. I was working out.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I have a buff trigger figure over here. Boy, holy count.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
And send me Kenned w D forty to keep it,
you know, keep it clean.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's right, that's right, we'll go that thing out.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Talk about a sacrilege.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh goodness, Well I told you I wanted three and
a half.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
He said, well, we'll do three and a half to four.
Because they're not going to nail it exactly. I'll adjust it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
To yeah, right, right, They'll get it as close to
that as they can. But it is still feeling correct.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Right, And the reality is there are some people you
wouldn't loan a gun with a light trigger too, But
if you shoot a lot, you get to where you
can shoot a lighter trigger. Really well.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, and I was just going to say a lot
of these companies you are having this customized, But these
companies won't put a trigger out that light for those reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, Now you're right. And then and since they're building that,
I mean when I say they're building it, they are
working on every single part and polishing all the internals
and doing the complete reliability package on it. It's I'm excited.
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well that that brings up a question, Tom mister Devil's
on this week's episode of Jim's a Devil's Advocate.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I have another name for it, but then go.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Ahead, no, go ahead? What was your name?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yes? No, no, go ahead? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Really well, officially it's called being a pooh head. Ah, okay,
that's what That's what our kids used to say when
they were little. He's a poo he's a poo head.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, it's kind of like you can get past f
CC that kind of thing. That's true, something you could
say on air. Actually you're going.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
To say something. Fortunately we've gotten you off of it now.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Exactly good. That's what working together for this many years.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Well done, Michelle, You're.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Welcome, America.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
It was a maintenance question.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I'm sure it'll hit me, you know, before the end
of the show, But it was regarding maintenance on the
topic we've just discussed.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, no, no, I know what's a maintenance now? I
got it. See see you didn't jump in when you
could have. He's back for new shooters.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I guess I have my recommendation, but I've been totally
wrong before and stuff. My gut would say, on a
new shooter, you want to give him a stock trigger,
something heavier, not a hair trigger, just learning how to shoot.
Here's a two pound trigger, pol kind of deal? Is
that correct in that assumption, mister g.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
It depends on several things. One is what is a
stock trigger. If it's a lousy stock trigger, no, I
don't want to give it to him, Oh, because it
makes it harder to shoot.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Well, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And the term hair trigger is just nebulous. It doesn't
mean anything. It's like, okay, if you know, because guns
that I think have just a good trigger. Other people say, oh,
that's a hair trigger.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
So no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It's just a good trigger.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's just light and crisp.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Because they're used to crappy triggers. Okay, So but yeah, no, no, no,
say that's the thing. People think a heavy trigger is safe.
It's not, okay because with a heavy trigger you don't
know when it's going to go off. You just keep
pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling as
eventually you think a god I hope this thing goes
off at some point, monchiell You've done this. I've had
where I'm thinking it's the safety on.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right, they keep pulling it and it's like okay, or
this happens. They get tired before the Honestly, they're like, yeah,
they're like pulling and pulling and pulling like in your
right time you do You're like look around, like, no,
the safety is not on, just keep pulling. But a
lot of these newer guns, unfortunately, are like that.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, we used to. Joke has said that these gunmakers
have an attorney at the end of the assembly line
adjusted the triggers and if they can get in where
they won't go off at all, it's perfect right now,
We're not going to have any liability to here.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, that might be true, and some of them, it
sure feels that way. Is such a long trigger pool,
like no, nope, don't even like the gun.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, but you know, we have been able to actually
end up with some better trigger pulls, and you know,
credit to Glock for that crazy internal safety thing. And
some of these triggers have the little blade thing on them.
Now you don't have the possibility of dropping it and
having it go off, because that was the concern with
really light guns. And now you go, okay, so you've
(09:37):
got a little take up and it works well. There
are some really good triggers on factory guns.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Now, yeah, and you can always get different springs. You
can't go too light because then the guns won't function properly.
But you know, you can always have somebody crisping them
up if you'd like to. But that involves putting a
little bit of money behind the gun.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
You and I also spray some of that Pam cooking
oil in the middle of the gun.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Works great, Yeah, no, it's fine after a couple under
rounds of Friday Egg got it?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
What was the gun that you guys shot so much there?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, there are exam.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They'd put it in a bucket of water.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, eight thousand rounds. Just we had a bunch of
people out of the range. It was one of those
experienced classes. Oh no, this was something else. But we
had a bunch of people. We just said, look, here's
a pistol, here's the m O. Everybody just get in
a line, come by and just shoot it all you
want to, just I mean, just frying this thing. And
like I said, had to stick it the bucket of
(10:39):
water to cool it down occasionally. Never had a problem
with it. I will tell you I am impressed. It's
an inexpensive pistol, but it comes with really good sights
and iron sights that comes set up. You can put
a red dot on it too, but it's got a
good trigger. I just liked the gun.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Eight thousand rounds. Don't you wish you would have had
a second mag? My goodness, that's what I am like.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Like five people back there loading mag exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm just envisioning that nice pailet of AMMO sitting next
to me, unlimited rounds and keep shooting for this pistol.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
This is one of those great events had ranged ready
where we have an AMMO sponsor and the people who
paid for the class get all the AMMO provided.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's like it's like a dream.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
It's not still sitting in that bucket of water now is.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It could be Louisiana, There's no problem.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I think I'm probably the roads. I know. I've told
the story before of the time I had the pistol
down in my big gulp that I picked up seven eleven. Yeah,
the pistol is full of water, and uh, we're doing
how many guns can you have on you? Da? And
I was presenting it to a concealed carry class. I
(11:54):
kept pulling guns from here and there, and I had
this drink. I kept drinking from it. And then at
the end I reached down and pulled a North American
arms many revolvers. Yes, I did, Yes, out of the water.
I'm just goofy enough to do something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
With the water a little salty, I mean, just curious
as to what those solvents were like.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It was. It was a little oily. It was of
an I p a oh my, oh god. All right,
you guys, recover, get control of yourself. We'll be back
on a minute.
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Speaker 7 (13:16):
Her perfume lingered in my office long after she left,
something sweet, familiar about it, something that made me glad.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I was a man and she was a woman.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I knew that perfume.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Then it hit me, like both barrels of a Holland
and Holland five hundred nitro express. It wasn't Chanel number five.
She was wearing Puppies number nine. I cursed myself for
sending her away. Let another muggy and turned the radio
on into Tom Treasure's Gun Talk.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It's a classic.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Where'd you dig that up?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
At?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Hes way deep in the computer. I've one that's been
over recorded problems for years. That's gotta be like fifteen
twenty years ago, a long time ago. Bill our buddy
who he does voiceover work, does a lot of work
for Democratic candidates, and he says, yeah, he says, I
tell their lies. I take that money. I'll buy more guns.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Definitely an easy way to be able to afford them.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
And people don't like capitalism.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Come on right, what's not the light here?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
God?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So Jim tries to break into a gun free zone.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah, that's I mean, you're paraphrasing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You didn't break in.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
No, no, no, I'm a spare mager kind of guy, right,
And we were doing some actually some playing out back,
and I had a mag in my hoodie thing and
threw it in the back of the truck. And then
later on went to a hockey game, which is the
only true sport, by the way, and.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I realized I.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Have to de gun in the car obviously, So I
d gun in the car and said, you know, it's
gonna be a cold walk back. It's a nice night now,
but the weather says so I'm going to grab just
grabbed it and threw it on real quick. About three
quarters of the way to the gate. I put my
hands in pockets of the hoodie. I'm going, I.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Don't think that spare mag is going to get through
that metal. Yeah. So then I wondered, how you know
how to handle that?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And I had something happen years ago, very very similar
as I'm right before. I'm in line with the metal detective.
Same kind of deal, trying to make your eyes not
get real big and go I gotta go.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
It's like when you try to get people to buy
beer for you in your underage.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I left my wallet in the car.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay, Well, anyway, at that time, I just told the
guy that I was an oversight I have to rectify,
and I think that actually the sheriff caught on.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
He was pretty cool, all right, But this time I'm
you know, I've lived and learned.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Since then, I've grown, I've blossomed as a as a
you know, gun guy.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
So I only made it halfway to the stadium.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We got our courthouse here. To get to d m V,
you got to go through midle detector because it's in
the courthouse and to share his deputy there and there,
Hey it's Idaho, right.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
The first time I went up there, I didn't realize that.
And I got to the door and looked at the
middle detector at the signs went uh oh. I told
the deputy. I said, I'll be right back. He says,
gun or knife? I said both.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
He says, I love you. What's your name? When you
come back.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
But now when I go through, I used to like
take off my holster and everything. I just take the
gun mag out. I got the hoster mag pouch on
and then you usually have like two flashlights that come out,
and so we usually do the flashlight talk. Oh wow,
what do you got today? Right? That's cool. Yeah, so
what you doing the whole thing right there? It's like, okay,
at one point we had one of the deputies was
(17:09):
talking about something. I said something about shooting or drawing
or something. He says, well, you know, I've been getting
like fifteen splits. I've been, you know, splitching about fifteen
I'm thinking this guy's a shooter, you know splits. And
those are good times too. By the way, Okay, so
that old deal of cops can't shoot, Yeah, it's not
true for everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, so over generalization, right, it is, it is.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And I also find now maybe this is a big generalization,
the sheriff's deputies are often better than regular city cops.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Absolutely, Obviously it depends always the answer.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But anyway, why do you think that is.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Because they're outdoors more they probably a lot of them
grew up in the country, they're more apt to shoot versus.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
AD has to shoot because it's part of his job.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Part of it also is that I think sheriffs are elected,
and I think they're a bit more responsive than politically
motivated police chiefs that filters down.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm thinking a guy on the road not.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. The guy on the road. Yeah,
and you know around here they're all gunn people. So
it's like, you know, I told you about I think
I did told you about the time I got pulled
over by the deputy and he was just checking. I
don't know what he's doing. He was just checking to
see if I was drinking. And it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
No way?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I just I swear all the time, honestly. I said, yes,
I just picked up this new revolver. It's probably the
only one you know in the state, this brand new.
He said, really, So I said, you want to see it?
He says, yeah. So it reached over. I put out
this pistol that's in a case next to me, racked
the slide, hand it out the window to the deafy
(18:59):
he's looking at We're just having a whole gun talk
conversation on the side of the road out there.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Every situation is different, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What if they don't know who you are?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh, he had no idea who I was. No, no, no,
this was.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Just like they had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
This is just idaho. I'm telling I'm telling you like
and I said, look, I just picked up this pistol
and I said, do you like guns? He said yeah.
I said, oh yeah, well look you look look this
I just picked us up. It's brand new from I
can't remember. Oh I know what it was. It was
the sig Legion, and the legion was just really nice.
And I said, there's probably not another one like this
(19:38):
here and he said, oh yeah. And so you know
racked the slide keep you handed to him empty with
the slide back and the way you would you would
handed to somebody. And I said, you're gonna love the
grip on this. He goes, oh yeah, that's really nice.
Just do the whole thing out there. So no, but
he no, he had no idea who I was.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
So it's all delivery, really, is what you're saying, because
I would have just screamed I got a gun.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So when I'm thinking, is here that ladies, no more crying.
Let's talk about the pistol.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That's right after I did that, after I cried, but
the crying didn't seem to happen.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Thought the persume is a nice touch, but.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean it gave it away.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Should consider supplementing your income. But this kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Michelle, Yeah, she.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Keeps saying it want to get paid for this time.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It's not going to happen. So I have a question,
And Josh, I don't know if there's an impact yet,
but I'm wondering since we have all of this import
tax that's changing on everything, and we have a lot
of guns, especially since COVID that are now imported into
(21:01):
our country, that are made in Turkey and Croatia and
all these other places the tariffs. Yeah, well, any of
these companies because of the tariffs, like Springfield Armory, they
import some of their guns in from other will they
start making them?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, Oh, that's a good question. The problem for the challenge,
as you know, is that you can't just say, well,
do we'll just start making them here and have them
ready next month, right, you know. It's like a multi
multi year and.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Those ladies tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, it's it's really early expensive. At the same time, possibly,
I don't know what Springfield would do because, yeah, their guns
are mostly made in Croatia. And the problem is by
the time they say, if they said okay, we're going
to do that, it's a three year project, Well, the
tariffs are probably gone by then, so we're we're balancing
(21:59):
out what do we do? And they're faced with having
to raise the prices to cover the cost of the terraffs,
and so it's kind of where of course, I am
kind of one of those. Yeah, I hate higher prices,
but I also hate the fact that these countries have
been gouging us with the tariffs they're hitting us with.
So I'm not opposed to the tariffs from Trump. I
see what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Well, wait a minute, you educated yourself on a topic.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You just didn't take some emotional response that you read
on emails.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I went on, I went on, TikTok, I learned all
I needed to know.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Oh yeah, where else would you ever want to go?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
It's all right there, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It can be spoken, it can be sung, it can
be danced to.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
You know the sarcasm we talk about time that people
often miss.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
There you go, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I especially like to get my information from the woman
in her car who sets her camera her phone up
to rant at the camera all by yourself, going yeah,
that's really good information.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Thank you for sharing that while driving. Could you do
your makeup too?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Of course, a n Idaho you can still get away with
that as long as you got a pistol with you.
So it's something to talk about there, you go, that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, something I was just curious because there are I mean,
there's a lot of shotguns that are made in Turkey,
you know, just a lot of us actually in Turkey.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
And think think of all the Barrettas come in all
the guns come from Italy, you know. I mean, you've
got a lot of that going on.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
H Yeah, tourists.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Something at our tourist Brazil. Browning gets their guns made
in Japan, yep. Which is always fun because they can't
buy them in Japan, but they'll make them there instead
of here.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, well it's the perfect place, right. They don't want them.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Get them all, actually they do want to because they
want they come over to Vegas and they go crazy
going to these shooting range and shoot all these different guns.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
That hurts so badly when Browning did that, when they
quit having the maid in America, what having them made
in Belgium and to Japan. And then Winchester of course
fell into line with it, yep.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Right because for those who don't know, Brownie Winchester owned
by the same outfit now and of course Barretta has
ended up purchasing a bunch of companies, gun companies as
well as optics companies. I think they owned Steiner I remember, right,
But Bretta is huge, of course, and they owned nine
(24:25):
percent of Ugar.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I was just gonna say, yeah, well, and I thought
it was interesting. I wonder if I mean, I don't
know how long this whole red label thing has been
in the works, but it is kind of interesting that
here sits Bretta now and brings out their red label,
which I'm excited about.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's a beautiful final Didn't you just love the red
label when it was out so smooth?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
It was beautiful? Yes, yep, yes, Well.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I'm totally ignorant on this. Talk to me.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It's a it's an yep over under, it's a well,
they had them in all weather, so they had a
stainless steel synthetic. But they had a beautiful.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Witch sixteen twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, there was no sixteen six twenty.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Eight, twelve twenty and twenty eight. And you can get
the four ten tubes to go in the twenty twenty eight, right, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
But just just a gorgeous piece of machinery. I don't
want to see machinery. It was a gorgeous firearm.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And they scaled the receiver rather than putting twenty gauge
tubes on a twelve gage frame, y a twenty gauge
frame and a twenty eight gauge frame, so it was small,
trim and light and this was delightful.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
How many years did they produce that? Oh gosh, I
could go on Google, but I have you two well information.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Guess that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
But it's probably been at least fifteen years since they
made it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, and unfortunately it's been gone for quite
a while. It is I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
We rarely talk about over unders. I've never shot one.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's a beautiful guy. You've never shot one?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Not over under? No?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Have you shot side by side?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, just turn a sideways, just lean your head over
this way.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I want to protect the gunsmith and see if they
just mount the stock in ninety make things so much easier.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I couldn't afford, couldn't afford an over and under. I
found the side by side.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
And if I stand just right, okay, So all right,
I gotta tell you this one of our stupid dad jokes.
One of my favorite jokes. I'm visiting Jim turning this
gun over the side. And there's this guy that goes
into the clothing store wants to buy a suit, and
they got Taylor there, and he said, okay, we'll get
fixed up. And he puts the suit on and he
(26:49):
gets all Taylor and he comes back and tries it on.
He says, well, this isn't gonna work. It's what do
you mean, sir? Well, look, the sleeve over the right
side is too long. It's that's not a probably just
pull your arm a little bit, you know, and it'd
be fine. He said, well, okay, yeah, look that works.
He says, but but look look over here, said the
leg on the left side is the pants that is
(27:10):
too long. He said, that's okay. You just stand up
with your toe on that side. Gone, he says, but
but but the collar sticks up on the side. He says,
that's okay, just lean your head over and press your
head down on that. He said, well, yeah, that looks
pretty good. I said, okay. So he pays for a
suit and he walks out and he's got his toe
out on the one side and he's kind of limping
(27:31):
and he's got his arm pulled back on this side.
He's got his head all cocked over, and he just
looked terrible. And he walks by this couple and one guy.
There's two guys, and the guy says, man, he says,
you see that, poor fellow. He says, yeah, he looked terrible.
He says, yeah, but don't his suit look good? Yeah,
(27:58):
well it's terrible. So I'm just advangining, Jim, you know,
leaning over to shoot his side by sideways to the
To your point though, Jim, the thing about over and
under is it's so nice is the balance. You've got
weight out there with two barrels, and so it swings
really well. But also, depending on the setup, you have
(28:21):
two chokes, two different barrels and two different chokes. The yeah,
so you got so you got twelve games, twelve games
top and bottom. But you might have like an improved
cylinder and a modified or improved cylinder and a full
choke right right, all right, And then you have a
(28:42):
selector on there and you can choose which barrel shoots first.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yep. Wow, So if something's closer farther.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Exactly, so if it's a long shot, you switch over
to the full choke.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
The blade. There are ways of doing it.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It can be a blade or like in the case
of the ruger, it had the safety that would go
to one. No, no, that was the rimmaging thirty two
hundred with the little safety would go to one side
or another. Sometimes the actual safety would slide left and right.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Okay, so you're a tained safety.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And sometimes they had two triggers.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Oh, yes, that would be classic. Yes, yes, because that
comes from the old English double barrel guns. You have
two triggers, you have a trigger for the front trigger
fired one barrel and were and it is tricky. Have
you ever shot one of those? Michelle?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
To keep track of what you're doing, Yeah, and you're
like reaching, like, where's.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Typically what I do is I pulled the trigger and
then I keep pulling the trigger to make it go off.
Another time, I keep pulling the same trigger forgetting to
go to the other trigger. It's like, what.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You really have to if you're not used to that
the classic you really have to work it where that
muscle memory is with the triggers. But you know a
lot of that. It isn't as big of a deal
because we do a lot of muzzle loading, and so
we had set triggers. So we're kind of used to
you know, set trigger trigger. So but at any rate,
(30:11):
I mean it is a little different mentality of usage.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay, there are people who do not know about the
set trigger. You can describe that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
So there it has actually two different little triggers on
your muzzle loader. One is the set trigger. So you
would pull it and then take your finger out of
there and place it on the actual trigger, and that
would actually crispin or lighten up the amount of pull
that you had on the trigger when you were actually
(30:40):
ready to place your shot.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
But could you fire that back trigger by just pulling
it and have a heavier trigger pull without setting it.
I don't because some some guns you can you could
actually fire it has a heavy trigger pull on the
Reglar trigger. Or you can pull that front trigger and
it goes click and now it is set your set trigger,
(31:02):
and now it's down to like half a pound or something.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Wow, that's kind of cool. So now are all over
and unders the same gauge. I know you said this
particular model was, but did they make somebody's got sixteen
up top and a twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Eight below it?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Or well?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
There are some companies out there that had it didn't
have different gauges, but it might be a twenty gauge
and a twenty two long rifle. Yeah, that's a combo
that way, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And then then you had the drilling. You have two
shotgun barrels and a rifle barrel.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, it was in the middle underneath, right.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
We had to do some homework.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh yeah, typically German drillings. Fun to look those up,
and boy are they nice and smelt in the light.
No they're not. You've got lots of.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Barrel out there.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
No, a lot of barrel out there.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yours velt for shooting.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
It when you're done yet carry get around?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yes, yeah, but the classics a beautiful.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
They are all right. So I said I would talk
about it. Let me give you the ninety second version
of my deer hunt. I was out yesterday and it
was our buddy Brad, and the deer were all over.
We saw a lot of deer and finally got it
was a shooter. It wasn't a big buck. It was
a shooter buck. But he was a little spooked. He's
(32:27):
going across the hillside from us. He's about Brad had
the arrangemind on him three I think it was three thirty,
which is a pretty good poke.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Three n thirty yards.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
But I'm on a side hill, got my shooting sticks out,
got my rifle up, and the shooting sticks keeps sliding
and my butt keeps I'm literally sliding down the hill.
It's that steep and I'm trying to get on him,
and he's moving. So let's say I'm sliding, he's moving
(33:00):
three and a half football feels away and finally said,
you know, this is stupid. I'm going to make a
mess out of this. If I pull the trigger. We're
not doing that.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Who knows where you'll land if you actually pull the.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, you know, you know, And if I you know,
I'm shooting in the leg or gut shooting and now
we've got a rodeo. We're not doing that, right, So yeah,
it's like okay, It's like you went, okay, that's the
last opportunity of the season and that was a good season.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Like you needed more meat in the freezer anyways.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm down to only two hundred and fifty pounds
of moose meat.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Now, moose in the morning.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
That's there. We got moose breakfast. We got breakfast sausage.
It's really good, you know, and then you got a
lot we made a lot of it into burger yeah,
just because you can use that for a lot of stuff.
And then a few steaks that I think we ended
up not doing any roast at all. What well, you know,
there's just two of us, you could I mean, because
(34:03):
I guess it's just obvious that a moose roast is going.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
To be large, right right, Yeah, it's like okay.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, we're going to cook that and then we're going
to freeze it and have that for in the next
three weeks or something. So anyway, we didn't do I
don't think we did any roast, but we did do
some steaks, and but I'm telling you it's really good.
Moose is delicious.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Never had it, but I would like to try sometimes
just there are awsome animals, just to see them. Whenever
we're in a state that supposedly has them, they're never there.
Never see one. Go off looking intentionally to find one, right,
(34:45):
do you drive long?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You go that looks like a really good moose habitat. Yeah,
no moose there, but it looks like good habit.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, like this is where you should find one. Nope.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, no, they're not there.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But one time, just driving through doing some just I
guess just some sight scene. That's the word. Who some
sight scene, and we were going through a forest in Wyoming.
It's like, there's one with a calf.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
I'm like, what, it's not like deer where you have
urban deer, like we have urban moose.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Do you Alaska and stuff? They're all up in the
city and everything else, are they? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
We have a wow cool sleeping in our backyard and
we lived in a subdivision in Anchorage.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Wow, no way.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
They would come on the loud speaker at our kids
grade school.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
The moose would and yes, yes, that's pretty talented moose.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
The Principe would come on and say, all right, kids,
there's a moose on college Drive. Don't throw any rocks
at it on the way home, and give it a
good wide berth while you're walking home.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
When the animal is larger than your vehicle, I think
that's a be a given.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Well, in the last especially, they usually have several fatal
car wreckts. I mean, you hit one of those things
that goes right through your windshield and at night they're
just big black things you don't see them.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Sorry, it's tough, come right upon them. I unfortunately seen
a semi in a moose come in contact with one
another in Canada. Yeah, not a pretty thing.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
No, it's not Nope, nope.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Well all right, that was fun. I'm gonna go have Actually,
we're not going to have moose tonight because there's the
limit how much moose you can eat in a stretch.
You don't have a break.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You do need to cut off some red meat at
some point in time, right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
We're going with Hall of It tonight. Yeah, locally caught hal.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Of It, not really, of course, just for the Hall
of It.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Just take you. You did not disappoint me at all.
I knew there was going to be, but I really
thought it was going to come from gyms. Oh there
you go.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
No, I'm way too mature for that stuff, Gretchen.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay, highly unlikely.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
And I lie a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Okay, there's that too. A wonderful week, folks.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Thank you. We'll catch you next time for the gun
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
So you've made it through three hours of the regular
show on terrestrial radio and you wanted a little bit more.
So that's why you found the gun Talk after show
podcast where we saved all the best things that we
can't say on regular radio. Now here's Tom, Michelle and
Jim for the gun Talk after Show.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hey guys, it's Jim and Michelle.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It is Hello. Who are you announcer?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I don't know, I just yeah, hanging around here. I
had a better offer, but I said no, I gotta
go do the show anyway. It's fine, it's the after show.
This is gun Talk. I'm Tom. Guess what blah blah blah,
Save old bang.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hey, we got to welcome Brandon, Tom our high energy
new listener from Carlinville and Carlonville, Illinois. The gentleman we
spoke to about the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
He's the nine s and he was stoked.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
He's just full of energy.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Man. It's good to an s R nine, which he
thought somehow he didn't want to carry. But I'm thinking, man,
I love the pistol. Shot.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's a great pistol. Yeah, loves that too, yep.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I mean it's a shooter's gun. It feels good. And
I don't even think they'll make it anymore, are they?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I don't know. I don't know, but it is. Look,
it is the right size. It is a perfect size grip.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I agree that good they were. I think they were
maybe early on. I mean, look here, Yeah, there is
no SR. Nine pistol in the lineup, Ruger. It is gone.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's too bad.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's a shame.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, you know. It was kind of reminiscent of the
old P series, the eighty fives, the eighty nine's, you know,
but not as chunky, correct yep.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, those were big, blocky things, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But everything was then well you're right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I was, you know, and then the and the glock
came along and it was chunky, but nobody cared because
everything else was chunky except for the nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
No, nineteen eleven. That thing might stick around.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I don't know, you know. And I thought that Larry
Vickers really nailed it a couple of weeks ago because
I mean he's a block guy, a FN guy, you know,
a tactical guy. I said, what about the nineteen eleven?
He says, the nineteen eleven is an enthusiast's gun. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Remember, Yeah, that's a good.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Way to put he said. He says, it's like having
a classic car. You got to work on it. You
got to make sure it runs right. I mean, if
you do and it works for you, it's wonderful and
they're a lot of fun to have. But his point,
and I get it from what he'd talk about, is
if you just want to fight and gon and go
get your plastic fantastic and go at it right.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Right for a number of reasons.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, yeah, they'll take a lot more abuse, right, they'll shoot. Yeah, yeah,
right right there, they they do just keep running.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean that's the thing. And you do have to
maintain a nineteen eleven. But if we could just have
one of those plastic fantastics that has a nineteen eleven.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Trigger and the allure yeah yeah, I mean that is it.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I mean, once you get to shooting, when you go, man,
that trigger is awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Grip angle to the angles, the grip.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Bingle's part of it. But what people don't really understand
is that with your standard trigger that's hinged at the top,
and so the trigger is swinging on the hinges at
the top, the geometry changes the entire your time you're
pulled the trigger. With a nineteen eleven, it is on
two bars and just slides backwards and forwards. It doesn't
(04:09):
pivot at all, and so the geometry never changes, so
you just press backwards, straight back. It's like pushing a
button going straight back. And that's part of the secret.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Sauce, secret sauce.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
That's right. It's kind of binary on or off, but
it's got slack still.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well, it does have a little slack, little but not
a lot. I mean, you can dial that out. And
the question is do you want to right, do you
want a little bit of take up on it.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
When you have your gun dialed in different than you
know everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's like Bill Offwards when they called
a couple of weeks ago from Cinder and Slide and
he said, well, we're gonna have the trigger set up
for you know, about four and a half pounds.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I said, no, no, I need something.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I want twice that because I want I want more trigger.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Pull could you send it just kind of gummed up.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I want is Look, I'm paying for this. I want
all the trigger pull I can get for my money.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I want to know. I was working out.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I have a buff trigger figure over here. Boy, holy count.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
And send me Kenned w D forty to keep it,
you know, keep it clean.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's right, that's right, we'll go that thing out.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Talk about a sacrilege.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh goodness, Well I told you I wanted three and
a half.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
He said, well, we'll do three and a half to four.
Because they're not going to nail it exactly. I'll adjust it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
To yeah, right, right, They'll get it as close to
that as they can. But it is still feeling correct.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Right, And the reality is there are some people you
wouldn't loan a gun with a light trigger too, But
if you shoot a lot, you get to where you
can shoot a lighter trigger. Really well.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, and I was just going to say a lot
of these companies you are having this customized, But these
companies won't put a trigger out that light for those reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, Now you're right. And then and since they're building that,
I mean when I say they're building it, they are
working on every single part and polishing all the internals
and doing the complete reliability package on it. It's I'm excited.
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well that that brings up a question, Tom mister Devil's
on this week's episode of Jim's a Devil's Advocate.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I have another name for it, but then go.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Ahead, no, go ahead? What was your name?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yes? No, no, go ahead? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Really well, officially it's called being a pooh head. Ah, okay,
that's what That's what our kids used to say when
they were little. He's a poo he's a poo head.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, it's kind of like you can get past f
CC that kind of thing. That's true, something you could
say on air. Actually you're going.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
To say something. Fortunately we've gotten you off of it now.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Exactly good. That's what working together for this many years.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Well done, Michelle, You're.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Welcome, America.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
It was a maintenance question.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I'm sure it'll hit me, you know, before the end
of the show, But it was regarding maintenance on the
topic we've just discussed.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, no, no, I know what's a maintenance now? I
got it. See see you didn't jump in when you
could have. He's back for new shooters.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I guess I have my recommendation, but I've been totally
wrong before and stuff. My gut would say, on a
new shooter, you want to give him a stock trigger,
something heavier, not a hair trigger, just learning how to shoot.
Here's a two pound trigger, pol kind of deal? Is
that correct in that assumption, mister g.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
It depends on several things. One is what is a
stock trigger. If it's a lousy stock trigger, no, I
don't want to give it to him, Oh, because it
makes it harder to shoot.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Well, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And the term hair trigger is just nebulous. It doesn't
mean anything. It's like, okay, if you know, because guns
that I think have just a good trigger. Other people say, oh,
that's a hair trigger.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
So no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It's just a good trigger.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's just light and crisp.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Because they're used to crappy triggers. Okay, So but yeah, no, no, no,
say that's the thing. People think a heavy trigger is safe.
It's not, okay because with a heavy trigger you don't
know when it's going to go off. You just keep
pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling as
eventually you think a god I hope this thing goes
off at some point, monchiell You've done this. I've had
where I'm thinking it's the safety on.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right, they keep pulling it and it's like okay, or
this happens. They get tired before the Honestly, they're like, yeah,
they're like pulling and pulling and pulling like in your
right time you do You're like look around, like, no,
the safety is not on, just keep pulling. But a
lot of these newer guns, unfortunately, are like that.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, we used to. Joke has said that these gunmakers
have an attorney at the end of the assembly line
adjusted the triggers and if they can get in where
they won't go off at all, it's perfect right now,
We're not going to have any liability to here.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, that might be true, and some of them, it
sure feels that way. Is such a long trigger pool,
like no, nope, don't even like the gun.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, but you know, we have been able to actually
end up with some better trigger pulls, and you know,
credit to Glock for that crazy internal safety thing. And
some of these triggers have the little blade thing on them.
Now you don't have the possibility of dropping it and
having it go off, because that was the concern with
really light guns. And now you go, okay, so you've
(09:37):
got a little take up and it works well. There
are some really good triggers on factory guns.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Now, yeah, and you can always get different springs. You
can't go too light because then the guns won't function properly.
But you know, you can always have somebody crisping them
up if you'd like to. But that involves putting a
little bit of money behind the gun.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
You and I also spray some of that Pam cooking
oil in the middle of the gun.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Works great, Yeah, no, it's fine after a couple under
rounds of Friday Egg got it?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
What was the gun that you guys shot so much there?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, there are exam.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They'd put it in a bucket of water.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, eight thousand rounds. Just we had a bunch of
people out of the range. It was one of those
experienced classes. Oh no, this was something else. But we
had a bunch of people. We just said, look, here's
a pistol, here's the m O. Everybody just get in
a line, come by and just shoot it all you
want to, just I mean, just frying this thing. And
like I said, had to stick it the bucket of
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water to cool it down occasionally. Never had a problem
with it. I will tell you I am impressed. It's
an inexpensive pistol, but it comes with really good sights
and iron sights that comes set up. You can put
a red dot on it too, but it's got a
good trigger. I just liked the gun.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Eight thousand rounds. Don't you wish you would have had
a second mag? My goodness, that's what I am like.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Like five people back there loading mag exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm just envisioning that nice pailet of AMMO sitting next
to me, unlimited rounds and keep shooting for this pistol.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
This is one of those great events had ranged ready
where we have an AMMO sponsor and the people who
paid for the class get all the AMMO provided.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's like it's like a dream.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
It's not still sitting in that bucket of water now is.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It could be Louisiana, There's no problem.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I think I'm probably the roads. I know. I've told
the story before of the time I had the pistol
down in my big gulp that I picked up seven eleven. Yeah,
the pistol is full of water, and uh, we're doing
how many guns can you have on you? Da? And
I was presenting it to a concealed carry class. I
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kept pulling guns from here and there, and I had
this drink. I kept drinking from it. And then at
the end I reached down and pulled a North American
arms many revolvers. Yes, I did, Yes, out of the water.
I'm just goofy enough to do something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
With the water a little salty, I mean, just curious
as to what those solvents were like.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It was. It was a little oily. It was of
an I p a oh my, oh god. All right,
you guys, recover, get control of yourself. We'll be back
on a minute.
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Speaker 7 (13:16):
Her perfume lingered in my office long after she left,
something sweet, familiar about it, something that made me glad.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I was a man and she was a woman.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I knew that perfume.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Then it hit me, like both barrels of a Holland
and Holland five hundred nitro express. It wasn't Chanel number five.
She was wearing Puppies number nine. I cursed myself for
sending her away. Let another muggy and turned the radio
on into Tom Treasure's Gun Talk.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It's a classic.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Where'd you dig that up?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
At?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Hes way deep in the computer. I've one that's been
over recorded problems for years. That's gotta be like fifteen
twenty years ago, a long time ago. Bill our buddy
who he does voiceover work, does a lot of work
for Democratic candidates, and he says, yeah, he says, I
tell their lies. I take that money. I'll buy more guns.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Definitely an easy way to be able to afford them.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
And people don't like capitalism.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Come on right, what's not the light here?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
God?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So Jim tries to break into a gun free zone.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah, that's I mean, you're paraphrasing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You didn't break in.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
No, no, no, I'm a spare mager kind of guy, right,
And we were doing some actually some playing out back,
and I had a mag in my hoodie thing and
threw it in the back of the truck. And then
later on went to a hockey game, which is the
only true sport, by the way, and.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I realized I.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Have to de gun in the car obviously, So I
d gun in the car and said, you know, it's
gonna be a cold walk back. It's a nice night now,
but the weather says so I'm going to grab just
grabbed it and threw it on real quick. About three
quarters of the way to the gate. I put my
hands in pockets of the hoodie. I'm going, I.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Don't think that spare mag is going to get through
that metal. Yeah. So then I wondered, how you know
how to handle that?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And I had something happen years ago, very very similar
as I'm right before. I'm in line with the metal detective.
Same kind of deal, trying to make your eyes not
get real big and go I gotta go.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
It's like when you try to get people to buy
beer for you in your underage.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I left my wallet in the car.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay, Well, anyway, at that time, I just told the
guy that I was an oversight I have to rectify,
and I think that actually the sheriff caught on.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
He was pretty cool, all right, But this time I'm
you know, I've lived and learned.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Since then, I've grown, I've blossomed as a as a
you know, gun guy.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
So I only made it halfway to the stadium.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We got our courthouse here. To get to d m V,
you got to go through midle detector because it's in
the courthouse and to share his deputy there and there,
Hey it's Idaho, right.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
The first time I went up there, I didn't realize that.
And I got to the door and looked at the
middle detector at the signs went uh oh. I told
the deputy. I said, I'll be right back. He says,
gun or knife? I said both.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
He says, I love you. What's your name? When you
come back.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
But now when I go through, I used to like
take off my holster and everything. I just take the
gun mag out. I got the hoster mag pouch on
and then you usually have like two flashlights that come out,
and so we usually do the flashlight talk. Oh wow,
what do you got today? Right? That's cool. Yeah, so
what you doing the whole thing right there? It's like, okay,
at one point we had one of the deputies was
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talking about something. I said something about shooting or drawing
or something. He says, well, you know, I've been getting
like fifteen splits. I've been, you know, splitching about fifteen
I'm thinking this guy's a shooter, you know splits. And
those are good times too. By the way, Okay, so
that old deal of cops can't shoot, Yeah, it's not
true for everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, so over generalization, right, it is, it is.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And I also find now maybe this is a big generalization,
the sheriff's deputies are often better than regular city cops.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Absolutely, Obviously it depends always the answer.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But anyway, why do you think that is.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Because they're outdoors more they probably a lot of them
grew up in the country, they're more apt to shoot versus.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
AD has to shoot because it's part of his job.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Part of it also is that I think sheriffs are elected,
and I think they're a bit more responsive than politically
motivated police chiefs that filters down.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm thinking a guy on the road not.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. The guy on the road. Yeah,
and you know around here they're all gunn people. So
it's like, you know, I told you about I think
I did told you about the time I got pulled
over by the deputy and he was just checking. I
don't know what he's doing. He was just checking to
see if I was drinking. And it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
No way?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I just I swear all the time, honestly. I said, yes,
I just picked up this new revolver. It's probably the
only one you know in the state, this brand new.
He said, really, So I said, you want to see it?
He says, yeah. So it reached over. I put out
this pistol that's in a case next to me, racked
the slide, hand it out the window to the deafy
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he's looking at We're just having a whole gun talk
conversation on the side of the road out there.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Every situation is different, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What if they don't know who you are?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh, he had no idea who I was. No, no, no,
this was.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Just like they had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
This is just idaho. I'm telling I'm telling you like
and I said, look, I just picked up this pistol
and I said, do you like guns? He said yeah.
I said, oh yeah, well look you look look this
I just picked us up. It's brand new from I
can't remember. Oh I know what it was. It was
the sig Legion, and the legion was just really nice.
And I said, there's probably not another one like this
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here and he said, oh yeah. And so you know
racked the slide keep you handed to him empty with
the slide back and the way you would you would
handed to somebody. And I said, you're gonna love the
grip on this. He goes, oh yeah, that's really nice.
Just do the whole thing out there. So no, but
he no, he had no idea who I was.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
So it's all delivery, really, is what you're saying, because
I would have just screamed I got a gun.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So when I'm thinking, is here that ladies, no more crying.
Let's talk about the pistol.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That's right after I did that, after I cried, but
the crying didn't seem to happen.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Thought the persume is a nice touch, but.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean it gave it away.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Should consider supplementing your income. But this kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Michelle, Yeah, she.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Keeps saying it want to get paid for this time.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It's not going to happen. So I have a question,
And Josh, I don't know if there's an impact yet,
but I'm wondering since we have all of this import
tax that's changing on everything, and we have a lot
of guns, especially since COVID that are now imported into
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our country, that are made in Turkey and Croatia and
all these other places the tariffs. Yeah, well, any of
these companies because of the tariffs, like Springfield Armory, they
import some of their guns in from other will they
start making them?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, Oh, that's a good question. The problem for the challenge,
as you know, is that you can't just say, well,
do we'll just start making them here and have them
ready next month, right, you know. It's like a multi
multi year and.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Those ladies tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, it's it's really early expensive. At the same time, possibly,
I don't know what Springfield would do because, yeah, their guns
are mostly made in Croatia. And the problem is by
the time they say, if they said okay, we're going
to do that, it's a three year project, Well, the
tariffs are probably gone by then, so we're we're balancing
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out what do we do? And they're faced with having
to raise the prices to cover the cost of the terraffs,
and so it's kind of where of course, I am
kind of one of those. Yeah, I hate higher prices,
but I also hate the fact that these countries have
been gouging us with the tariffs they're hitting us with.
So I'm not opposed to the tariffs from Trump. I
see what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Well, wait a minute, you educated yourself on a topic.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You just didn't take some emotional response that you read
on emails.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I went on, I went on, TikTok, I learned all
I needed to know.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Oh yeah, where else would you ever want to go?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
It's all right there, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It can be spoken, it can be sung, it can
be danced to.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
You know the sarcasm we talk about time that people
often miss.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
There you go, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I especially like to get my information from the woman
in her car who sets her camera her phone up
to rant at the camera all by yourself, going yeah,
that's really good information.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Thank you for sharing that while driving. Could you do
your makeup too?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Of course, a n Idaho you can still get away with
that as long as you got a pistol with you.
So it's something to talk about there, you go, that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, something I was just curious because there are I mean,
there's a lot of shotguns that are made in Turkey,
you know, just a lot of us actually in Turkey.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
And think think of all the Barrettas come in all
the guns come from Italy, you know. I mean, you've
got a lot of that going on.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
H Yeah, tourists.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Something at our tourist Brazil. Browning gets their guns made
in Japan, yep. Which is always fun because they can't
buy them in Japan, but they'll make them there instead
of here.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, well it's the perfect place, right. They don't want them.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Get them all, actually they do want to because they
want they come over to Vegas and they go crazy
going to these shooting range and shoot all these different guns.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
That hurts so badly when Browning did that, when they
quit having the maid in America, what having them made
in Belgium and to Japan. And then Winchester of course
fell into line with it, yep.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Right because for those who don't know, Brownie Winchester owned
by the same outfit now and of course Barretta has
ended up purchasing a bunch of companies, gun companies as
well as optics companies. I think they owned Steiner I remember, right,
But Bretta is huge, of course, and they owned nine
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percent of Ugar.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I was just gonna say, yeah, well, and I thought
it was interesting. I wonder if I mean, I don't
know how long this whole red label thing has been
in the works, but it is kind of interesting that
here sits Bretta now and brings out their red label,
which I'm excited about.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's a beautiful final Didn't you just love the red
label when it was out so smooth?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
It was beautiful? Yes, yep, yes, Well.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I'm totally ignorant on this. Talk to me.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It's a it's an yep over under, it's a well,
they had them in all weather, so they had a
stainless steel synthetic. But they had a beautiful.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Witch sixteen twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, there was no sixteen six twenty.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Eight, twelve twenty and twenty eight. And you can get
the four ten tubes to go in the twenty twenty eight, right, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
But just just a gorgeous piece of machinery. I don't
want to see machinery. It was a gorgeous firearm.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And they scaled the receiver rather than putting twenty gauge
tubes on a twelve gage frame, y a twenty gauge
frame and a twenty eight gauge frame, so it was small,
trim and light and this was delightful.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
How many years did they produce that? Oh gosh, I
could go on Google, but I have you two well information.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Guess that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
But it's probably been at least fifteen years since they
made it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, and unfortunately it's been gone for quite
a while. It is I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
We rarely talk about over unders. I've never shot one.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's a beautiful guy. You've never shot one?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Not over under? No?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Have you shot side by side?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, just turn a sideways, just lean your head over
this way.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I want to protect the gunsmith and see if they
just mount the stock in ninety make things so much easier.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I couldn't afford, couldn't afford an over and under. I
found the side by side.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
And if I stand just right, okay, So all right,
I gotta tell you this one of our stupid dad jokes.
One of my favorite jokes. I'm visiting Jim turning this
gun over the side. And there's this guy that goes
into the clothing store wants to buy a suit, and
they got Taylor there, and he said, okay, we'll get
fixed up. And he puts the suit on and he
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gets all Taylor and he comes back and tries it on.
He says, well, this isn't gonna work. It's what do
you mean, sir? Well, look, the sleeve over the right
side is too long. It's that's not a probably just
pull your arm a little bit, you know, and it'd
be fine. He said, well, okay, yeah, look that works.
He says, but but look look over here, said the
leg on the left side is the pants that is
(27:10):
too long. He said, that's okay. You just stand up
with your toe on that side. Gone, he says, but
but but the collar sticks up on the side. He says,
that's okay, just lean your head over and press your
head down on that. He said, well, yeah, that looks
pretty good. I said, okay. So he pays for a
suit and he walks out and he's got his toe
out on the one side and he's kind of limping
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and he's got his arm pulled back on this side.
He's got his head all cocked over, and he just
looked terrible. And he walks by this couple and one guy.
There's two guys, and the guy says, man, he says,
you see that, poor fellow. He says, yeah, he looked terrible.
He says, yeah, but don't his suit look good? Yeah,
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well it's terrible. So I'm just advangining, Jim, you know,
leaning over to shoot his side by sideways to the
To your point though, Jim, the thing about over and
under is it's so nice is the balance. You've got
weight out there with two barrels, and so it swings
really well. But also, depending on the setup, you have
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two chokes, two different barrels and two different chokes. The yeah,
so you got so you got twelve games, twelve games
top and bottom. But you might have like an improved
cylinder and a modified or improved cylinder and a full
choke right right, all right, And then you have a
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selector on there and you can choose which barrel shoots first.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yep. Wow, So if something's closer farther.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Exactly, so if it's a long shot, you switch over
to the full choke.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
The blade. There are ways of doing it.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It can be a blade or like in the case
of the ruger, it had the safety that would go
to one. No, no, that was the rimmaging thirty two
hundred with the little safety would go to one side
or another. Sometimes the actual safety would slide left and right.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Okay, so you're a tained safety.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And sometimes they had two triggers.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Oh, yes, that would be classic. Yes, yes, because that
comes from the old English double barrel guns. You have
two triggers, you have a trigger for the front trigger
fired one barrel and were and it is tricky. Have
you ever shot one of those? Michelle?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
To keep track of what you're doing, Yeah, and you're
like reaching, like, where's.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Typically what I do is I pulled the trigger and
then I keep pulling the trigger to make it go off.
Another time, I keep pulling the same trigger forgetting to
go to the other trigger. It's like, what.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You really have to if you're not used to that
the classic you really have to work it where that
muscle memory is with the triggers. But you know a
lot of that. It isn't as big of a deal
because we do a lot of muzzle loading, and so
we had set triggers. So we're kind of used to
you know, set trigger trigger. So but at any rate,
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I mean it is a little different mentality of usage.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay, there are people who do not know about the
set trigger. You can describe that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
So there it has actually two different little triggers on
your muzzle loader. One is the set trigger. So you
would pull it and then take your finger out of
there and place it on the actual trigger, and that
would actually crispin or lighten up the amount of pull
that you had on the trigger when you were actually
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ready to place your shot.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
But could you fire that back trigger by just pulling
it and have a heavier trigger pull without setting it.
I don't because some some guns you can you could
actually fire it has a heavy trigger pull on the
Reglar trigger. Or you can pull that front trigger and
it goes click and now it is set your set trigger,
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and now it's down to like half a pound or something.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Wow, that's kind of cool. So now are all over
and unders the same gauge. I know you said this
particular model was, but did they make somebody's got sixteen
up top and a twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Eight below it?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Or well?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
There are some companies out there that had it didn't
have different gauges, but it might be a twenty gauge
and a twenty two long rifle. Yeah, that's a combo
that way, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And then then you had the drilling. You have two
shotgun barrels and a rifle barrel.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, it was in the middle underneath, right.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
We had to do some homework.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh yeah, typically German drillings. Fun to look those up,
and boy are they nice and smelt in the light.
No they're not. You've got lots of.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Barrel out there.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
No, a lot of barrel out there.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yours velt for shooting.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
It when you're done yet carry get around?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yes, yeah, but the classics a beautiful.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
They are all right. So I said I would talk
about it. Let me give you the ninety second version
of my deer hunt. I was out yesterday and it
was our buddy Brad, and the deer were all over.
We saw a lot of deer and finally got it
was a shooter. It wasn't a big buck. It was
a shooter buck. But he was a little spooked. He's
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going across the hillside from us. He's about Brad had
the arrangemind on him three I think it was three thirty,
which is a pretty good poke.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Three n thirty yards.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
But I'm on a side hill, got my shooting sticks out,
got my rifle up, and the shooting sticks keeps sliding
and my butt keeps I'm literally sliding down the hill.
It's that steep and I'm trying to get on him,
and he's moving. So let's say I'm sliding, he's moving
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three and a half football feels away and finally said,
you know, this is stupid. I'm going to make a
mess out of this. If I pull the trigger. We're
not doing that.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Who knows where you'll land if you actually pull the.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, you know, you know, And if I you know,
I'm shooting in the leg or gut shooting and now
we've got a rodeo. We're not doing that, right, So yeah,
it's like okay, It's like you went, okay, that's the
last opportunity of the season and that was a good season.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Like you needed more meat in the freezer anyways.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm down to only two hundred and fifty pounds
of moose meat.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Now, moose in the morning.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
That's there. We got moose breakfast. We got breakfast sausage.
It's really good, you know, and then you got a
lot we made a lot of it into burger yeah,
just because you can use that for a lot of stuff.
And then a few steaks that I think we ended
up not doing any roast at all. What well, you know,
there's just two of us, you could I mean, because
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I guess it's just obvious that a moose roast is going.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
To be large, right right, Yeah, it's like okay.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, we're going to cook that and then we're going
to freeze it and have that for in the next
three weeks or something. So anyway, we didn't do I
don't think we did any roast, but we did do
some steaks, and but I'm telling you it's really good.
Moose is delicious.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Never had it, but I would like to try sometimes
just there are awsome animals, just to see them. Whenever
we're in a state that supposedly has them, they're never there.
Never see one. Go off looking intentionally to find one, right,
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do you drive long?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You go that looks like a really good moose habitat. Yeah,
no moose there, but it looks like good habit.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, like this is where you should find one. Nope.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, no, they're not there.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But one time, just driving through doing some just I
guess just some sight scene. That's the word. Who some
sight scene, and we were going through a forest in Wyoming.
It's like, there's one with a calf.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
I'm like, what, it's not like deer where you have
urban deer, like we have urban moose.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Do you Alaska and stuff? They're all up in the
city and everything else, are they? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
We have a wow cool sleeping in our backyard and
we lived in a subdivision in Anchorage.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Wow, no way.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
They would come on the loud speaker at our kids
grade school.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
The moose would and yes, yes, that's pretty talented moose.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
The Principe would come on and say, all right, kids,
there's a moose on college Drive. Don't throw any rocks
at it on the way home, and give it a
good wide berth while you're walking home.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
When the animal is larger than your vehicle, I think
that's a be a given.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Well, in the last especially, they usually have several fatal
car wreckts. I mean, you hit one of those things
that goes right through your windshield and at night they're
just big black things you don't see them.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Sorry, it's tough, come right upon them. I unfortunately seen
a semi in a moose come in contact with one
another in Canada. Yeah, not a pretty thing.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
No, it's not Nope, nope.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Well all right, that was fun. I'm gonna go have Actually,
we're not going to have moose tonight because there's the
limit how much moose you can eat in a stretch.
You don't have a break.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You do need to cut off some red meat at
some point in time, right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
We're going with Hall of It tonight. Yeah, locally caught hal.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Of It, not really, of course, just for the Hall
of It.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Just take you. You did not disappoint me at all.
I knew there was going to be, but I really
thought it was going to come from gyms. Oh there
you go.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
No, I'm way too mature for that stuff, Gretchen.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay, highly unlikely.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
And I lie a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Okay, there's that too. A wonderful week, folks.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Thank you. We'll catch you next time for the gun
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