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June 12, 2024 38 mins

Chris and Rob debate whether it’s fair to call New York Yankees slugger Aaron Judge the most prolific home run hitter in MLB history and tell us if ESPN’s coverage of the NBA Finals just feels ‘small’. Plus, MLBBro.com and Sports Rap Radio host JR Gamble answers the tough MLB questions in this week’s edition of Foul or Fair.

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Speaker 2 (01:13):
And Rob, We've talked about it.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Aaron Judge a wreaking havoc on Major League Baseball right now,
twenty five home runs leading the league sixty two RBI
leading the league, slugging percentage seven to twelve, leading the league.
He's having a phenomenal year right now, would certainly be

(01:36):
the MVP. And you have a microwave take from several
years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I think it was what twenty seventeen maybe twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
This is unbelievable. Yeah, this goes back seven years old.
I'll be to judge of that.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Okay, no, but.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
It was a background eighteen seventeen seventeen is when he
hit the fifty two, so I'm guessing it.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Was right after that. Maybe it was.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
During that season, I want to say, because he hadn't
in it yet.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, here we go. Microwave take from rap Parky Hitch.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
An old hon take that's gone.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Cold on the outside. I just go on in the middle.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
It's microwave take with the on cup.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
I'm rob Parker. This is getting robbed.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And here are my top five sluggers of all time.

Speaker 7 (02:22):
Number five Aaron Judge from the New York Yankees, six
foot seven, two hundred and eighty two pounds. The Yankees
have a section form called Judge's Chamber.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
It tells you about this guy home run swing Chris.
When I originally did this. This was for FS one.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
When we were doing these little vignettes, people criticized me
that I put Aaron Judge in the top five sluggers
of all this is my list, and I try to
tell people it would be ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Where's Hank Aaron, Where's Babe Ruth?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
If we're just gonna list the top five home run hitters,
then then we all have the same list. Would you
agree with that? So it can't be that, okay? So
no King Griffey Jr. No Hank Aaron, no Willie Mays,
no Babe Ruthe. Otherwise we would all have the same lists.
So people criticized me that I.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
What was your list other than Judge? Where was Judge?
And what was the list?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
So Judge was number five. I had Mark McGuire in there.
I don't know exact Mark McGuire, I had Alex Rodriguez,
I had Darryl Strawberry, and I had and I had
Barry Bonds. I think that those were my five, that
I had a my list, And my point though, Chris

(03:38):
is I got criticized for putting Judge in and Rob
g what.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Was his rookie year?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Was this his second year twenty seventeen. I don't remember
our third year, but but my big criticism Chris was
that it's too soon, Like, how do you have him there?
And I'm gonna say, you notice you've dubbed people. You
see people and way back when I looked at this

(04:05):
dude in his swing and what he's done, and the
only thing that has stopped him is what, Chris, what
has stopped injury?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Just injury?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
When he plays, he's lights out right, Yeah, he lights
when he's healthy when he's playing. He got a slump
to start the year, but you know what I mean,
over the course of a full year, he's going to
put up numbers. So it is incredible and Rob Gi
give us the details on what he just did.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Chris.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
You know, I'm calling him the most prolific home run
hitter we've ever seen. And I'm not this is not hyperbole.
I'm not trying to make a hot take. But he
now has the numbers, Chris, to back up what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (04:49):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (04:49):
He got some numbers last night Tuesday Night, hit his
twenty fifth home run of the season, which we already
talked about that Chris, But with that homer, he became
Major League Baseball all time leader in games per home run.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Can you believe that? Quick?

Speaker 9 (05:04):
He hits a home run every three point two games
he plays for context, Babe Ruth is three point five,
Barry Bonds is three point nine.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's incredible, Chris, that he's on that pace. Well, here's
where I would disagree. That pace is gonna slow down.
It's gonna those numbers aren't when he retires. It ain't
gonna be three point two because he's not gonna hit
home runs at this rate once, you know, throughout the
course of his career. I don't think if he does,

(05:40):
I'll give it to you right now.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I think you're a prisoner of the moment.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I mean, he he's only hit forty or more home
runs twice, so he's got it.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
He's got it. I mean, part you're right in.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
That, Hank Aaron agree he ever hit fifty?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Mink Freer is not viewed as the most prolific home
run hitter in the You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
He had He was at home run for a long time.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I mean, yeah, Hank had eight times he had forty
or more. Of course, he played four more years, play
eight times, Babe Ruth eleven times. So my point though,
I hear you, and if he can stay healthy, You're right,
that has been the only knock against him, But it's
a heck of a knock because he is injured so much.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
And I don't think if he's injured and.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
He never let's say he ends up with four hundred
and eleven home runs, I don't think you're gonna be
able to call.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Him the most prolific home run hitter of all time.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
And I'm not saying it's just about the total numbers,
but you gotta be available, yeah, and you gotta be
available too.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
He does have the highest home run rate, whether it's that's.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Impressive, it is, But don't you think that's going to
go down as he gets older and plays longer.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
That's generally what happens.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, probably, but except for Barry Barnes, right. But the
thing is Chris which is incredible, is I mean, he's
still a young guys who got eight great eight years
ahead of but he's not old, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
He's got eight years ago or whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
He can pile up a lot and playing at Yankee Stadium,
you know, it's not the you know, the biggest ballpark
you could go to right field Chris and pop home runs.
He hits to all fields. I think he's in a
great ballpark to hit home runs. That's gonna help him,
just like Babe Ruth at the short Porch and Yankee
Stadium that helped him. So I think that's gonna be

(07:40):
a thing that helps him. But I'm starting to look
like like he got off. Think about where he is
and what he's doing. Chris, and he had a terrible April,
remember terrible, and his numbers where they are now is incredible,
despite I think he only had maybe one or two
home runs in April.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, I think it's just too early to say he's
the greatest slugger of all time. I'm not saying he
has to finish as the all time home run leader
or anything like that. I just think he needs to
do it a little bit longer. If you want to say,
I mean, like I've said about show, hey, best player
I've ever seen, not to go.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
So if you want to say that, certainly, you know
you can. But he's just got to keep it up.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
And I mean even this streak, now, is this just
a streak you know, in twenty twenty one, he played
one hundred and forty eight games, that's basically a whole year,
had thirty nine homers.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean that's great, but it's not like his work.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Here we are, we got how many weeks till the
all starts July fourteenth, right, so we got a month
left still and he's got twenty five already.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
I mean, he could have thirty, He could have thirty two.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
He should be on pay, you know what I mean,
something serious?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, because you got a month.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Can he hit seven more home runs in a month
and have thirty two going into the All Star break?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, like you said, the key is can he stay
on this pace? I mean, and not even this pace,
because this is just.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
This is this is like a home run almost every
other day, right right exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
But can he stay, you know, somewhere near this pace?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
And Barry Bonds, look, Rob, Barry Bonds, I've never seen
anything like him in baseball. Now we know, we believe
there was you know, he has some extra help. His
the home run percent is when he hit seventy three
was eleven percent. That's by far the best of any season.

(09:38):
But Judge is almost nine percent right now, which is tremendous,
And yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
You had some more, you got more numbers of other players.

Speaker 9 (09:48):
Well, no, it's just the extent of that games per
home run list. Like I mean, I brought up Babe
Ruth and Barry Black are the two biggest names people
want to hear about you those names, and you automatically,
you know, get some credibility. But if you would on
the list the top ten in order, and this is
not exactly you know, the who's who of Power Raiders
if you really think about it, So it goes Judge McGuire, Ruth,

(10:10):
Pete Alonzo.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Pete Alonzo has hit a lot of home runs.

Speaker 9 (10:15):
Yeah, Jordan Alvarez, Sammy Soso, we don't know what color
he was at that time, but Juan Gonzalez right now, Yeah,
Juan Gonzalez, Barry Bonds and Ralph is it Kiner Rob.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Kind of Ro kind of was the metsa anouncier for
long played for the Pirates and he hit like four
hundred home runs in ten years something like.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Well, see that's kind of what I'm talking about. Rob.
It's like you can have a nice run, you.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Know, and obviously that's what some of these guys have had.
You know, some of them are younger, obviously Alvarez and
guys like that, so can they keep it up? But
Judge is phenomenal. I just wish well, let me put
it this way, Rob, I hope he can stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Because he stay healthy, he has a chance. One a
long time baseball rider text me today. He says, this
dude's going to the Hall of Fame if he stays healthy. Like, oh, absolutely,
Like he's a Hall of Fame caliber player I've never seen.
And then when you know, like I said, five years ago,
I put him on the list. Seven years ago, I
put him on the list because I just saw, like

(11:21):
the swing, the stadium he's going to play in, you know,
most of his games, Chris eighty one of them. When
you add those things together, how in the world are
you not going to hit home runs?

Speaker 5 (11:31):
He's big, he.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Strong, and and if he's it's not like when he's healthy,
he's Scoffland normally that's just not the case.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
If he's not healthy, he's great. I mean, you look
at Stan, that's his problem. He can he's worse than Judge.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
As far as and and Stan has four hundred and Chris,
he's close to get it.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
He's going to get the far What does he got?

Speaker 8 (11:51):
He has four hundred and eighteen home runs.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
He's going to get the five hundred if he can
just stay healthy for the.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Next few years.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Right, I agree. Let me ask you this, because Judge
right now is the MVP.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
If he's got the alv right right, If he's got
two m vps, does that make because let's say he
wins this this second MVP, but continues to have injury
problems maybe doesn't win another one. Does that put him
in the Hall two MVPs in an in an injury
play career.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Does two m vps?

Speaker 10 (12:29):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (12:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Al home run record?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I mean that, Chris, that that's a big because you
gotta win some national things, you gotta set some records,
and I think those things.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Injuries worked against. You know what if it wasn't just
oh he got he just fell off, you know what I.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Mean, and he could he could make it on that
because he has some benchmarks.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
You know, he has something.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
And if the Yankees were able to win a World
Series this year or next year, whatever it is, that'll
be another thing he needs to win too, because you know,
Jeter and all those other guys who came before him.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
They all want that.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
That's with being a Yankee. Ye, it was really not
anywhere else or most other teams. Is not the burden.
But yeah, Yankees, I mean were talking now. I think
he's better just you know, when healthy than dime mattingly, right,
But that's maddeningly like everybody loved him, but he never won.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
And when you eat the Yankees, that matters.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
No, it does.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
And the crazy thing is Chris he played, he made
the playoffs, right in ninety five, that was his last year,
and then the Yankees won in ninety six the very
next year.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
That's just the very next year they want be crushing.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
All right.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
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Aaron Judge is the greatest home run.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Hitter ever, most prolific, most prolific. All right, I'd rather
use that term. What I'm talking about, you know what
I mean, like being able to hit home runs?

Speaker 11 (13:59):
Right?

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Speaker 4 (15:21):
All right, it's the Eye couple, Chris and Rob. And
Rob has a microwave take. That's looking pretty good. Right now,
says Eric Judge is the greatest slugger ever. Your thoughts
or most prolific? I should say, did I knew that?

Speaker 10 (15:38):
And I do that?

Speaker 5 (15:39):
I knew that?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Guy? I did?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
I did prolific?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
All right, here we go, Oh Richard, Richard in Virginia,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, man, how's it going great?

Speaker 5 (15:53):
All right?

Speaker 14 (15:53):
How are you got doing great?

Speaker 6 (15:58):
Speaking about prolific home run hitters? How were we gonna
say Aaron Judge is the most prolific. If you're leading
out Barry Bond, we're not.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Leaving I'm not leaving him out. I'm going by home runs.
We just talked about it. Bonds averaged a home run
every three point nine games, correct, Rob g three point
nine and and Aaron Judge right now in his career.
He hadn't played three years. He's been around for a while. Now, Okay,
I made that take seven years ago. His is three

(16:32):
point two. I mean that, that's a three point two
games he homers. He leads now all players who have
ever played in the major leagues as far as home
runs per games play.

Speaker 10 (16:46):
Okay, that's all missed that part.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
I might have missed that part. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, that's what I would still put Barns ahead of him.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
No, I hear you, Chris.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
He has a longer body of work, and I get
all that I can get at that.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
That little PD run.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Was incredible, Yeah, it was, It was It was incredible.
It was like unreal, Chris. I'm gonna give.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
Who was it?

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Dan, Dan?

Speaker 8 (17:15):
Who was it?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Orlowsky?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
No, No, no, in Miami. I don't know why I'm
blanking on da Lebatar Lebratar. I saw a clip Chris
where he said, if you removed Barry Bonds's numbers during
the Juice years, if you removed him, guess how many
home runs he would have?

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Chris, and I'm giving.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
This total seven sixty two. I'm gonna say five or
five good clothes four forty.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
He still would have had four hundred and forty prior.
He still would have had Chris three MVPs prior like those.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Well, he was Yeah, he.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Was one of the great his players. You know, he
wasn't like in goat conversation, but he's one of the
greatest players what we think was before the PDS, right,
and that just took it, you know, to a whole
other level of course.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
But yeah, absolutely, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Let's go to.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Brandon in Seattle. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports radios.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Kyrie and Tatum are going at it. Tatum's got eighteen,
Kyrie's got twenty.

Speaker 11 (18:30):
Wow, damn, I really got to go in and watch that.
But uh so, uh yeah, home run hitters, I know
a little something about hitting home run. Sorry I lost
my voice here, but oh you were a slugger back
going into a radio station.

Speaker 10 (18:47):
But what's that you were?

Speaker 11 (18:50):
Day? Yeah, I'm kind of I'm known as the Unicorn
here in Seattle. I still play. I play every day.
But as far as like just seeing built to hit
home runs, I think We're may have been the best
built because of his torso hip, you know, diye area
and that rotation. Baby Ruth yeah, baby, if you get

(19:10):
a lot of power, I.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Think of the gut when I think of damn now,
but he was unbelievable.

Speaker 11 (19:16):
But his bone, like his bone structure when he was younger.
He has kind of long arms as a pitcher. Yeah,
just his power in that areas is really impressive. But
obviously griffy with his quick twitch. I think a bond
is more of an Errand and Karen before the roys
his first fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
What do you make?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
What do you make?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
What do you make of judges? Just how prolific he's
been when he's healthy.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
A lot, a lot.

Speaker 11 (19:44):
And actually Rob, I think his height kind of is
a disadvantage when it comes to being short six eight. Yeah,
he's doing a lot for how long it's swinging. He's
a great player. He's just another great, all time great
baseball just happens to be in a sixth eighth body.

Speaker 15 (20:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
It's a good Yeah, appreciate the call, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Let's go to Hollywood. He's in Chicago. Chris on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Hollywood?

Speaker 10 (20:14):
Is this thing going right.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Up?

Speaker 10 (20:17):
You being with Sugar up prisoner in the.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Moment telling me he's a prisoner of the moment. I
made that claim seven years ago. They were a prisoner
moment then, and you're a prisoner in.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
The moment now.

Speaker 10 (20:29):
Okay check it out, rob Okay, give me the players
that played the same amount of time that were ahead
of him at this at this point. So if he's
played what nine or ten years, so what players at
that point were ahead of him? Because he can't be
number one.

Speaker 14 (20:43):
I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
We don't have that.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
But it's based on you know, like your I'm just saying.
I'm just talking about at this moment because you might
be right, and Hollywood, I hear you. All I'm saying
is when you watch this guy when he's healthy, this
dude is a home run hitter, plays at a great
home run ball part. And he doesn't only hit on
runs at Yankee Stadium. But chuse you get my point.

(21:08):
Eighty one of his games are going to be in
that building.

Speaker 10 (21:11):
And I'm a white Soux said, But man, I take
Sami's sosa. Man. I mean, like I'm listen, I watched
Sam in Chicago, Like man, he was hitting the home
it seem like every other at bat.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, look that I mean, if you count McGuire and
Sosa in those years, and obviously we're counting bonds. Yeah,
right now, they would be a rob I mean, would
you they'd be ahead of me because he as great
as he's doing. They did do this for what three
four year stretches pretty much.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
It was.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
It was an incredible stretch, Chris, You know that you
were covering it.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
You were going around the great times and we again
we all know, I mean, we got a sour taste
in our mouth, as we should from that, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Because it was exciting to watch. ESPN was cutting into
their bats.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
It was incredible.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
It was crazy, and you're right, yeah it was.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
It was fun, man, It was a lot of fun
going to those games.

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Speaker 8 (22:54):
Gamble.

Speaker 14 (22:55):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I have hung out with both
Rob and and then they're both for good times in
my opinion.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
You know, there you go, hey, and don't forget sports
hanging out much.

Speaker 10 (23:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Sports Wrap Radio is an affiliate for right Fox. Were
on the radio, Chris in Detroit. Yes, yeah, shout out
to Detroit. We love y'all, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, tris cool, Trice cool.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
All right, guys, I got three MLB questions.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
We just did about forty minutes of MLB conference you
wanted to can continue it with JR. Gamble because he
is the noted baseball guy on the show The Baseball
Guy Rankings. Here of the odd couple is JR. Chris
and then Rob.

Speaker 11 (23:35):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
So that's why Rob always gets the last question when
it comes to Fouler. Fair question number one for my guy, JR.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
Gamble.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
Former Red Sox now Yankees outfielder Alex Verdue had a
great game tonight. He was having one made headlines this
week when he suggested that Boston wasn't really trying to
win the last four years he was there, adding quote,
it would have been nice to see a little more initiative.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
When I was there.

Speaker 9 (24:02):
They are wow sou or fair to say the Red
Sox as an organization is no longer committed to winning.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Fat That is a solid brow.

Speaker 14 (24:15):
They just aren't committed to outspending everyone to win anymore.
I think they're rebuilding, you know, something the Yankees ever
refused to do. So that organization had a lot of
success under fiol Epstein and then after he left as well,
winning four World Series. Sense they broke the eighty six
kids drought in two thousand and seven. The last World

(24:36):
Series came in twenty eighteen, and that's when they showed
you that they weren't gonna spend the wins. Their payroll
at that time was over two hundred and thirty five million.
They had Mookie Betts coming off and then VP they
got rid of him and the rest is history. They
haven't been winning, and now that payroll is twelve in
the league at one hundred and seventy six point four million,

(24:59):
behind notoriously frugal teams like the Cardinals. So they're not
bad and they haven't given up on winning. They're building
their five team, but that Jeft's not gonna spend more
than anyone else to win. That's what I feel.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's fair, j R. Stop it.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
This is the Boston Red Sox. They've been out of
the playoffs the last three years. Once they traded away
Mookie Bets, Movie Bets, you gave up.

Speaker 15 (25:34):
Call it a rebuild, call it quitting, call it saving money,
whatever it is. I don't like it because when you
give up Mookie Bets, one of the best players in
the world who was young at the time.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Guess what you're.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Trying to find when you rebuild another Mookie Bets.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Are you had even your building you gave him. No,
they're not trying to. I mean, I know they're not.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Like officially tanking, but they are not making the moves
in my view, that are consistent, for lack of a
better word, with what they are as a franchise. We
are used to seeing the Red Sox in the mix,
and I don't like this current trend.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Chris, I'm with you. You couldn't say it any better
it is. I mean, come on, once they when they
when they got rid of Mookie Betts, who are now
playing shortstop for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
It tells you that they were out.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Of the winning business and there's a reason why they
haven't made the playoffs. That team is nondescriptive. That that
who are the Red Sox? What are they?

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Are?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
They sluggers or they have arms? Nobody even knows what
they are. They're nothing. So I'm with you, Chris, right.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
They are right.

Speaker 8 (26:53):
Question number two looks nice.

Speaker 9 (26:57):
The athletic MLB player Pool was released this We talked
about it, oh Tani being the best player according to
his peers. Well, when they were asked to name the
most overrated player, and when you don't want to be
at the top of Marlin Center, feel their jazz Chism
ran away with it, doubling up the next closest guy.
Uh Chisholm is the rainy cover boyfriend will be the show,
which is a great honor. But he's also just a

(27:18):
one time All Star and has way more strikeouts than
hits four fifteen to three twenty seven Jr. Wow foal
or fair to say that an MLB bro named Jazz
Chisholm is the most.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Overrated player in baseball.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
We're gonna clip it on the website.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Don't be based, be objective there.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
It's a fair ball.

Speaker 14 (27:42):
Yeah, until Jazz realizes his potential. You have to say that.
You can't be overrated though, unless there's high spectations for you,
right so, and Jazz has those. So he was projected
to be better than he is this season. Then he
thought this would be his breakout year. But Samal is
on last place. The piece they put together in the
workouts after making the playoffs last season. He's hit in

(28:04):
two forty six nine home runs. That's where about where
he's been since he came into the league in twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 10 (28:11):
And you know, the flip.

Speaker 14 (28:12):
Side of this is Jason's worst enemy. He was the
one that said, you know, he doesn't listen to coaches,
and he criticized his teammates, and he criticized the locker
roles and he says he wants to lean back like Griffy.
Well he's no Griffy. And if this is how he's
gonna play, it doesn't equate, you know, the all star level.
So overrated heck yeah, for now, for now anyway, Yet.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Foul that is a foul ball.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I mean, I'm not saying he's lived all the way
up to you know, everything that he's supposed to be
and all that. But the most overrated, My god, I
just I just think that that's an extreme. I think
that they're let me, I'm trying to give you a
name or two that I might think you could be better.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Yeah, I'm trying to give you a neighbor two.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I mean, I'm not saying he's not on the list,
but man, he's had his moments. He's had some really
good stretches and whatnot. It's not like he's never produced it.
A couple of years ago, they went to the postseason.
Last last year, they u Two years ago they went
to the postseason. Chris, So, I can't sit here and

(29:25):
say he's the most overrated. I'm going to push back
on that. He's on the list, but he's not at
the top of the list.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'm with JR on this one, fair ball.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I mean, look, I like Jazz. I mean, we all
like him. You see the talent. It's just oozing all
that you got to deliver, and and I think, look,
he's banged up, you know, a good amount.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean this year he's been pretty good, but.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
You know, he's banged up, been banged up a little bit,
but he's hitting two forty five. I think something like
that for his career, as you kind of mentioned, Jr.
And you're right, it's the burden of expectations. They're probably
other guys are not. Probably there are other guys playing

(30:11):
worse that, but they're not hyped like him. He's supposed
to be that next guy, you know. And so I
think he can con bust out of it and deliver eventually,
But right now he has been a disappointment for the
hype that he has received.

Speaker 9 (30:27):
Yeah, all right, last one Fowler fair here on the
odd couple Fox Sports will do is very quickly rub
against it, pirates feed on. Paul Skeins put on another
show on Tuesday through a career high one hundred and
three pitches over six and the third shutout in against
the Cardinals. He was so good that when he got
pulled in the seventh, he got a standing ovation from
the fans in Saint Louis. Okay, given that the Cardinals

(30:48):
went out to lose that game, Jr. Fowler fair to
say that the Saint Louis fans should not not have
cheered the opposing pitcher.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
That is a funniball.

Speaker 14 (31:01):
We know. Saint Louis fans are among the kindest and
best fans in baseball. That's what they're known for, sharing
opposing players who make great plays. They appreciate great pitching.
They have a history of it from gets in the
Bruce Tuitor to John Tudor and Joaquin Anderhard and Adam
Wayne Wright. They appreciate a start and goes deep in
games and can pitch and win big games. I mean,

(31:25):
a young arm can change the complexion of your franchise.
And the Pirates are looking up. Maybe tink Hens will
be that guy to Saint Louis. But the Cardinal fans
haven't seen much winning and they haven't seen much dominant starters,
so maybe they're sending the GM. You know, John Mozili
after message.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
I'm going to say, let's see to say they should
not have I'm I'm with Jail.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Were you foul jam, Yes, foul fall.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
I was fine with them cheering because one, they are
struggling this year, that at the bottom of the inl Central.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Now they're not out of it, but they're struggling at
least right now.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
And Skiens, I do think there are a handful of players,
oh Tany's probably one, judges one, and I'm not putting
Skins on their level right now.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
But the dude, I mean, what he's doing, it's just
it's fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
And I think that's the type of thing they're real
baseball fans will just be like, yo, I gotta give
it to it, even if he's not on my team.
I gotta give it to this dude because this is
just incredible what we're seeing right now.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
I'm gonna say it's fair.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's fair.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yes, here's my point. And Saint Louis, And you notice
Chris I said every single time somebody calls him from
Saint Louis. Saint Louis is the baseball capital of the
United States.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Small city.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
They draw three million people every year, win, loser, draw,
They all wear red.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
They love baseball, They love the Cardinals. Right. But the
problem is.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
This, if Skeins would have pitched a gem or had
a no hitter into the ninth.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Or something like, he puts six and the third innings,
what come on? That ain't no gem.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
I'm sorry, I'm not giving a standing ovation to a
guy who puts six and a third and threw one
hundred and three pitches, and he might have shut down
the Cardinals in that game.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
But that's not a gem.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Baseball fans can identify and recognize if somebody pitches Chris
a one hitter through nine innings, you know what I mean,
or took a no hitter into the ninth and then
somebody got a hit.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Then you give them a hand for the effort that
they put on.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
But six and the third, no way, no, how my
cheerd opposing pitcher in my ballpark.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
House and that in the house.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
All right, great, great stuff, brother, thank you, that's Fouler
fair moreco becoming you away.

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the air, Rob, we got a good game here fifty
one fifty Mavericks lead at halftime and Rob G though
not everyone is pleased with the ESPN NBA pre post
and I guess halftime shows.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Is that correct?

Speaker 9 (34:50):
That perfect time for this segment because earlier on Wednesday,
Andrew Marshand of The Athletic put out a column which
is very scathing directed at ESPN Finals coverage. Specifically, what
he said is that it feels small. And he pointed
out that outside of you know, tonight they had Paul George,
but in the Eastern Conference finals games, they had Josh

(35:12):
Hart as one of their analysts and they had him
on for part of their part of the series. And
he said that because they have no former athletes, they have,
you know, no big names outside of who they already
have on their regular season broadcast, in this case Steven A,
Bob Myers, Mike Wilbotam Leik and Andrews that it doesn't
feel special. So he floated, Hey, maybe what ESPN should

(35:35):
do is, if not this year, maybe next year, throw
the bag at Lebron James, make him your Tom Brady
of broadcasting and see if you can make these finals
feel like the finals again.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Well, I get what.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
He's saying, Rob as far as and I'm not being
critical of the guys they have up there.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
You know those are guys the friends of ours, ROB
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Them and they and they've they gotten into a lot
lot of basketball, They've covered a lot of finals.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
And that's not even my question, Chris to you.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
And this is no disrespect, right, but Josh Hart isn't
big enough to be sitting up.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Well, and I was gonna say, I think when he
says it doesn't feel big, I don't think he's necessarily
criticizing what they're saying their commentary. He's saying, this is
what you do all regular season. We saw this in January,
right on the Tuesday night. We saw this in November,
like the finals is supposed to be different. I think

(36:31):
this is what he's saying. Like when I was going
the Countdown show Rode, we had Magic. Now we did
the whole year, but we had Magic Johnson on there.
So obviously it feels bigger because you got Magic and
he's you, Josh Hard even Paul George. I think it's
a good idea because I do think Lebron would be
excellent obviously smart about the game, and he's Lebron James,

(36:55):
So I think that's a good idea, right, why bar
right now?

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
He I just think it's like you got up. You
gotta have star power, that's all. And I don't know, Chris,
I just like I'm gonna admit in watching, I know
Josh Hart had his hair braided correct and then and
they had a wide shot Chris and I had to

(37:23):
look and go, who is that?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I swear, well, I mean Josh Hart is a role player.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
No, I know that's what that's Yeah, like that's that's
not that's for the finals.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I feel you.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
I mean that that's what he's saying. He said he's
not criticized. I don't think what any of them are saying.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
I think he's.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Criticizing, like where's the big where's Magic, Where's Lebron? Where's
you know, I mean Barkley, But you know what I mean,
like a name, a big name, And I get where
he's coming from. All right, it's the odd couple. We
got a barn burning NBA Finals. We out Jason Smith,
Mike arm and necks fire
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