June 17, 2024 • 37 mins
Chris and Rob provide up-to-the-minute analysis of Game 5 of the NBA Finals, debate whether all of these salacious headlines involving Caitlin Clark are actually good for the WNBA moving forward and explain why they believe Charles Barkley when he says that he’s retiring from television after the 2024-25 NBA season.
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Speaker 3 (01:03):
Talk about right now, Rob.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
And of course this past weekend things got chippy when
Angel Reese of LSU fame now with the Chicago Sky
and having a nice rookie year.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
She's having a really good year. And Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Rob of the Indiana Fever of Iowa, University of Iowa
Fame and those two, of course, had a great rivalry
in college, and it seems to be going on into
the pros. They're the two best rookies, and Caitlyn Clark
is I think right now the leader as far as
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rookie of the year. She's really and she's picking it up,
starting to play well even better. But when they met recently,
did you see Rob Angel Reese had what I'll call
a hard foul on Caitlyn Clark when she was trying
to go. Clark was driving to the basket and Reese
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was going for the block, and instead of getting the block,
she hit Clark in the head and it was given
a flagrant one.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
My take on that, Rob was.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
That I'm fine with them calling a flagrant one because
it looked violent. Not that she did on purpose, but
it looked bad. And you know, this is a time
where you know, everybody's worried about concussions, and rightly so,
and so you know you take that into consideration.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But I by the letter to law, which is.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Any unnecessary conduct contact. I didn't think it was unnecessary
contact more than any other foul. She was going for
the block. I thought she clearly was going for the block.
She did wind up rob but she was looking at
the ball the whole time. Once Clark went into her
shooting motion, Reese was looking at the ball. She wasn't
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looking at Clark, and I thought if she was, if
she was trying to hit her in the head, she'd
have been looking at Clark.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And she just you know, didn't get the block.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
But I think too, because of what's happened with Clark too,
so they're on the lookout for that, do.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, but I would think, I mean they probably knew
well the one with the last time with Kennedy Carter
that was clearly a flagrant foul unnecessary.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This one I just thought, was, you know, she was
going for.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The block block, and you know it wasn't any more
unnecessary contact than any other foul.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Right, you're trying to stop the ball or get the
ball or whatever you hit somebody. But anyway, Angel respoke
afterwards and here she goes robbing in.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
You could take it for inside. I mean, I think
we were playing really hard.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I think we went up really strong a lot of times,
and we didn't get a lot of calls.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And going back at looking at the film, I've seen
a lot of calls that weren't made.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I guess some people got.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
A special whistle.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
So she's said a special less illusion. Yeah, illusion, And
she's eluding to Clark.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Chris, here, here's Romeo, and I get it. You know,
the w NBA really Caitlyn Clark, not the w NBA.
Caitlyn Clark moves the needle. We said this before this happened.
She moves the needle. Okay, whatever it is, she moves
the needle. But the w n B, A for real,
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is not going to grow if all we're talking about
are the caddy kind of other stuff that's going There's
no basketball talk here, okay, there is none. It's the
jealousy talk. It's if they're trying to hurt her, they're
jealous of her, like it's a soap opera. There's no
basketball talk at all. Nobody nobody is looking at the
(04:54):
games or dissecting the games, or trying to figure out
the best teams and who's got the best strategy and
how did they stop for I haven't heard any of that. Now,
you tell me, Chris if you have, because I haven't
heard any of that stuff. The only things I hear
are the personality and that stuff is fine. It does
move the needle, but I don't think it grows the
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game after a while.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It just doesn't think that the women commentaries or commentators
on ESPN who played in the league or played.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
College basketball or what have you.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
They are trying to talk basketball. But what's the reason
we're even talking w NBA at all? Rob are the storyline?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right? But I disagree with you in that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I do think that's good for the league and Rob
that first of all, that's how I mean football people
are just into But we know what what blew the
NFL up, Rob, the gambling, fantasy football and all that.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's what changed the NFL right.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Where they went from being second to baseball to becoming
the most pot because people Bible don't.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
People don't remember when the NFL was taking off of
Monday Night Football on ABC. Like people people act like
that didn't happen, and Monday Night Raw used to get
a better ratings. Monday Night Raw Chris used to get
better rated than Monday Night Football like and then when
fantasy football had changed everything, it totally changed it. And
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again that had nothing to do with the x's and
o's that was, but it was just gambling.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And I rob you know, we're we're sports writers. Storylines
are what people are interested in. We always are looking
for the human element of it. And I do think
that I get what you're saying. I'm just saying completely true,
but that that's what people that's what draws people when
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baseball rob you know, obviously they don't get the coverage
they used to get. And what if they tried to
do to counter that make baseball fun again? The times
we talk like on the national scene rock that people
are really talking about baseball as far as talk shows
or radio and TV is generally it was old tiny
(07:12):
and the bet, you know, the gambling scandal. But what
I'll say, you know, not nationally, not locality, store local, locally,
the talk about the talk about the game, the exes
and notes, and all I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Saying is, but I'm talking about nationally.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Right, at some point you got to talk about the
game like like I get it now, and that the jealousy,
how how at some point the game has to be
a factor as well. Even in the NFL where you
have these great storylines, it's about who won and who
played well and who didn't play well, And you got
to have some of that, and I'm just saying I
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don't feel that. I don't feel like I'm getting any
of that. And You're right, some of the female uh,
they're trying to try and but avail because that's just
not the conversation that they want to have on those shows. Right,
nobody's trying to break down a w the fever and
what they what they did and they couldn't get open
for threes or whatever they want, Like what defense was that?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But Rob?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I mean again, and I know I'm kind of limiting
it to national TV talk shows and radio talk shows
because you're right, locally baseball, they'll break.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Down the whole game for on local station, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But the WNBA, Rob, we never talked WNBA.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
No, you not talked to w NBA. The second when
you gave.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
A w NBA update score, I was like, well, I've
been here six seven years.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I never remember the score.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And that's where I think what the league needs to recognize. Look,
I agree, and I think that the league and the
players in the league rob outside of and to be honest,
I think even Caitlin.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Clark feels like this way.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'm sure they are tired of all you're talking about
are the rivalries or the personality con right? The resentment
and and I will say this Rob too, even.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Though it happens in men's sports as well.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
We've talked about that Jordan getting nice out of the
game Lebron's teammates when he was a rookie thinking it's
still their team, and you.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Know, things like that happen.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
We talked about Linzo ball, Patrick Beverly picking him up
full court and making the tough on him. But there
is some element Ryan, let me, I want your thoughts
on this, and it's I think probably upsets the women
as well. Even though I have not heard a woman
say this, some of this does play in the female
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stereotypes and that might be why they get so mad
when people say they're jealous.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Clearly they I mean what you know, what you.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Mean right, But to them they probably feel like, well,
that's that's a female stereotype or resentment. Oh you know,
you're playing us up like we're just it's cat fighting,
you know, between girls and all that. And I get that,
and I understand them feeling that way. I could be wrong, Rob,
(10:09):
but I think the hope for the w NBA should
be look we understand they're only tuning in for Caitlin
number one, or if she's got a rivalry, or there's
some other uns some surly storyline. But the hope is
that people will tune in for those reasons or and
then see other good players, see other good you know,
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basketball being played, and then really start getting in.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's what That's what I'm saying, that's what they hope.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I'm sure it's got to be a little bit more
of that so that we can feel like and like,
I'm watching something that I want to see. After a while,
I can tune out and I could I don't have
to watch the games to get the caddy stuff to.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Get that days of our lives if you want to
play it, right, I mean, on is that soap operas?
For those things? Man, those things never g Soap operas
never die. I know they've been seeing one. I mean
now that I'm working, I never saw.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
But as a kid, my mom watched them and during
the summer i'd see them, right, and you know what,
and and uh, a lot of there were a lot
of sports writers who watched them too, Quis because you
know we work at night covering games.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, like I remember Curtis Stephen a Curtis Bond who
used to But but I remember Curtis was that because
during the day, you know what I mean, you'd have
lunch in your hotel before you would go to the
ballpark to the arena.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Right right now. But yeah, I ROGI.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Rob G's dad did it, same thing, he said, But
he said he watched all.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Of them, right.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
He would call me, like we call we once a week.
He'd be like, hey, trip out on what happened on
this episode. So this guy's sleeping with his sister. He
doesn't know that he's been dead for someone us like wait,
what back?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh my gosh, nuts nuts, But yeah, I you know
the interesting thing, Rob, I don't know though. I mean,
I do think with Caitlyn Clark, if she becomes a
bona fide superstar in the WNBA as far as the player,
She's already a celebrity and you know, arguably a superstar
as far as just popularity. But if she becomes like
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this phenomenal player in the pros as she did in college,
I do think people will tune in for her, and
I do think a rising tide will lift a boats.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
But she gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And Rob, the thing is this, and you know we
hold when it gets to the pros, we hold people
to this.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
She's gotta win. And Rob, she never.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Won a national championship in college. And I'm not saying
she's not a winner. I'm just pointing out the facts.
She never won a national championship college and Rob and
high school. You know, I went to the same high
school she went to. They never won a state championship.
And she was amazing, obviously, and they never won the
state championship. So she's gonna have to not only get
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here to the WNBA and put up numbers, but Rob,
she's gonna have to win.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And if she does do that, I do think she
can spark popularity around the league.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
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not grow if all of the storylines are Caddy, did
you mean cat fighting? Is that what he meant? Did
he play into the stereotype at cat fighting? What are
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a little bit forty six thirty one, so fifteen points
midway through the second and Rob. Jason Tatum's leading the
way so far eleven points and seven assists.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Started off a little bit cold too. He's a good
spot now, Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting. And what we
talked about if he plays well and closing out he
has a great shot.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well in Rob, he I mean, if he ends up
like Lucas game. That's one of his challenges obviously, is
the free throw line. It's been for some reason, been
incredibly bad during the finals. But Tatum entered the game
averaging twenty points in the series and Brown was averaging
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twenty point eight. So if Tatum ends up as their
leading score, you know, like outscores Brown enough where he's
the leading scorer for the series. For the Celtics, he
would lead them in points, rebounds, and a SI.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I don't know how you ain't gonna get the MVP.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Right, I mean, that's something that's hard not to acknowledge.
Even if the shooting percentage is low, they win and
he leads them in all those areas, all right, that
means something?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
All right?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Eight seven seven, nighty nine on Fox WNBA, your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
All right, dre Andre in Massachusetts. You're on the couple
of Fox Portraito.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (15:57):
Dright, Yeah, you're doing Thank you for taking a call.
You're absolutely onto something. All of these narratives, these contrarian
narratives around in Kitlyn Clark right now are preposters and
holding WNBA backpoint flit period and the story what would
have happened in nineteen eighty four eighty five if the
veterans had got on some kind of campaign against Michael
Jordan and his new shoes and he's Nike commercials that
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had people going bananas? How was that?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
What they did? They freeze They froze him out of
the All Star Game. But he was a play but he.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Remember the NBA wouldn't let him wear the Jordans initially, remember,
because they didn't have any white on him.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
They were black and red. They were like, you need
some white on these sneakers.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
One hundred percent, Chris. And what did Nike do with
their ad campaign? They had the famous commercial with the
Jordans in the distance and then them coming back and
then the X on them saying ban and then sales
went through the roof. My point is that the growth
of the game associated with star players is something that
it's a rising tide to lift all boats in the WNBA.
I'm sorry, it's enough. They need to either shut the
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heck up about Kaitlyn Clark or get behind and support
this rookie and stop all these narratives that are you know,
I don't care about.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Keep andre on, Keep andre on, because here's the thing.
Do you think the players and Rob you can answer,
do you think the players are doing something wrong, Like
there is rookie hazing, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's like, yeah, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You're not just gonna step in this league and do
what you did in college. Like I saw one dirty
hit which was Carter, you know, a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I don't blame Roe Reese for her shot. She was
going for a block.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
I get all of that. But if the league is fragile.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
This is a league that has not turned a profit
in over two decades. And the thing, the growth that
they're starting to have, specifically having chartered plays that is
directly attributed to case agree and this and this tone
of interest. So cut the nuts. And David Stern and
his leadership, he cut down on some of the negative,
contrary narratives. He just wouldn't let them rise up the surface.
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So from a league stamp point, you know, we talk
to the players and that these storylines need to be
either egalitarian and uplifting or just promote.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Give people what they want.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
Kaitlin Clark, young star, you know, all the rest of
that stuff, and just leave the other nonsense behind.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Because yeah, it's interesting because I hear where y'all coming.
It's just a lot it's it's a real like negative
but but it's like we didn't talk about the man
all before. Now we're talking about it, but it's kind
of next Yeah we're talking.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I mean, is it better? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Like I understand you do you want some some part,
but this is like over the top, like like can
we talk about her? About the play?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Actually? Like just some play? That's all. Greg in Florida,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Greg?
Speaker 10 (18:50):
Okay, perfect stack way. I got a headline and then
a comment.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Okay, good line.
Speaker 10 (18:56):
Crap brought up, loses fifty dollars. Projected has lost over
a quarter bilsion the dollars the last twenty eight years.
The black girls are jealous and it took a white
girl to make a crack product still suck.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, here's where I'll say with the race, and you've
heard a lot of the black players Rob say, you know,
essentially this white girl's getting all this publicity and we've
been building the league where I would disagree with that,
and obviously we're in America. There's no doubt race has
an impact. But what I would say is, well, why
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didn't people let join to Breonna Stewart like this, or
or Sue Burn, Chris, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Or Diana Tarashi's not the first star white show start.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
We're not.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It's different from the NBA roight white Star.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
What what did we talk about?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
What she How she captured the imagination and the and
the viewership of all these people, Guys, girls, everybody was
the logo threes, the deep threes, like Steph. That's why
she's separate from all those other white WNBA stars, Chris,
because they played a traditional game that didn't move anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I'm just totally that's the five.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I don't know why people aren't like the white star
right now. If she were black, I gotta be honest,
I don't think she'd be quite as popular, but I
do think she's still She was shooting age like. I
still don't think should have been very popular.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I don't think quite as much, but I think she
still would have been very popular.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
She would have been very popular.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I think with the with the logo threes and all that,
that's what really captured everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Guys were like, did.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You see her? Did you see what she shot for?
We didn't see women shooting from there Chris.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
No, I agree.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And the passing ability too, like she's a phenomenal passer.
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Speaker 4 (21:20):
All right, let's start with Joe and San Diego. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Joe?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
All right, thanks much for taking my call. Yes, one
of my things with the Sky, the Chicago Sky is
they want to have this bad girl image. Well, when
you have a bad boy image like in the NBA that, yes,
you're going to draw more scrutiny from the referees. Take
up a closer eye on you, and you're going to
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wind up getting more fouls called on you and getting
more technicals and getting more ejections. So for angel rees
to sit up and say what the referees affected the
outcome of a game, Well, you know you want to
have that image. That's this part of the image. You
don't get to be the bad girl and referees ignore
everything that you do. And second of all, real quick,
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the coach of the Chicago Sky, I think she's got
a problem right there because she's sits up there talking
about how they're not executing, not doing this, not doing that,
And it seems to me like the players on her
team don't take responsibility for their actions. Like, ain't the
rees acting like she? You know, this is all the
stuff that's going on, and she has like you guys
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on the networks are showing this, go show the reeplay
twenty times. Well, what does she expect me? She hits
somebody in the head, So she never really wants to
be culpable for her actions. And then the coach talked
about they won't do what I tell them to do,
you know, they don't execute, And this has coming down
to that coach will have to get control of that
team because right now I think Angel Reese is really
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running the house the team performs, or how their attitude
is and their coach.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Than he's into what he really is.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
How about Dan and Maryland, You're in the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Hello, yeah, d wrong, buddy.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Oh this is Darren, this is boyd Dre.
Speaker 11 (23:09):
That's up here.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Here's where I think you know Angel Angel Reef as actually,
believe it or not, she was. She and first Lady
Biden was the one who actually put Caitlin and Wnba
on the map when Angel did I can't see you
back to Kitland the National Championship games. And then the
first Lady Biden did the most unthinkable thing. She threw
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out the pity card for poor little kat right, yep,
got mistreated. So that's what started the whole snowball. And
then because Kitlyn, if you think about it, Kaitlyn ain't
asked for none of this, unfortunately for her.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
No, he's not a part of it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I will say this, She handles herself really well in Prescott.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
She says pretty much.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
To write this, I think if the roles were reversed,
if this was Angel Reef getting all the attention versus Caitlyn,
she would be trying to get even more more attention,
drawing to where Kitten A kind of just like it
is what it is, you know, I just want to
play ball. She has that old school kind of ball, mean, Cheuna,
I just want a ball, but everybody else is riding
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it and pushing it and pushing whatever their narratives and
their agenda is using her as the reason behind it.
That's how I feel about it.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
You know.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
It's like, don't watch Kaitlyn. Yeah, she can ball. But
to the guys talking about Chicago, Chicago's using Caitlyn. Also.
They picked the kaiting so they can draw some attention
to themselves too. Yeah, because like you say, for every
for every hero, you gotta have a villain. In Chicago said,
guess what.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
We're getting at, tension.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
We'll keep our name in the news, even though it
might be for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
We're doing it.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yep, thanks Darren, appreciate it. How about Patricia in Arizona.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Patricia?
Speaker 11 (24:53):
What's up, y'all?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
How you what's up?
Speaker 11 (24:56):
I'm doing good. I just want to say this. I'm
tired of listening everybody say that Caitlyn is bringing eyes
to the game. Kaitlyn is bringing eyes to her game,
not to anybody else's.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Now, she's supposed to bring eyes to the other games
though she can't, right, but.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
She bringing eyes to the w N b A. We've
talked about that, the watching her, right.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
But it's only her game.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Well what she supposed to do when Michael Jordan came
into the NBA, where people watching his games? Or are
they watching him? It will eventually spread out to the
other teams.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
But you can't say it with an attitude like she's
at fault because people ain't watching the rest of the league.
Speaker 11 (25:37):
No, no, no, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not
saying any part of this is Kaitlyn's fault. Like Kaitlyn,
I'm not saying any part of it it's her fault.
I'm saying that these talking heads need to stop saying
Kaitlyn is bringing eyes to the game. Kaitlyn is putting
eyes on her and it ain't.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Nothing wrong with that, There's nothing wrong with But here
let me ask you this, though, do you we are
not just us first take get up my show, first things,
first to hurt everybody's talking w n b A, our
radio show and others that we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
The league, mostly Caitlin. But don't you think that's still
good for.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
The NBA or the w n b A to a
certain degree.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
But everybody's talking about Kaitling, like if anything happens to
Kaitlin with a foul and what have you. We talked
about it all day, every day, on every one of
the shows. I can't hear from from Fox to esc
and what um hearing about it? And they go on
and on. But the worst fount that happened in the.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
W n b A was when.
Speaker 11 (26:38):
Angel gotch gotcha she got well. They talked about it
for what two minutes?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, I hear you on that, thanks Patricia. But it's
just Rob. We knew this is how it's gonna work.
They hope. The hope is that it will spread to
other place.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
We talked about it because what do we say, She's
the hall them the hallm globe trotters. When she comes
to town or whatever, people go on the flock. But
the rest of the game is still getting six thousand
and seven thousand.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
She's averaging over fifteen thousand for her games.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Everybody else is a little is over seven, right, which
is to be expected. That's what we thought about it.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
But look, they were they haven't made.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Money in decades. Well, I mean they're gonna lose money.
They're gonna lose money.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
They got the chartered flights now that they added on
for for the w NBA.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Uh we got time for Omar, Omar, Las Vegas. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Omar?
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yes, sir, Yeah, they listen. But Celtics are up by
twenty Is that right? Oh my god? Yeah, they've I
gotta get him credit. Man, they bothered. Oh yeah, man.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
It's an interesting topic. I think those white women that
came in the league before Kaitlyn Clark, a lot of
it has to do with the fact that those women
are most of them anyway, they're breed and a lot
of them are Payland paroxu, and I think that has
a lot to do with him.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
What's going on as far as the following, and that's
I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't know if everybody.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I don't think everybody knows what everybody is, right, I
write all these other players, I don't know who's heterosexual
or now. I couldn't name anybody and tell you like
their preference.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I mean, you can assume, but but Chris, like.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Angel Reed, I don't know. I mean, and I don't
want to out anybody themselves.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Is Angel Reese?
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I that she's heterosexual, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I'm with you, you know, I don't know there No,
he's gone. You know what I'm saying. But I don't
come how.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
People are saying that Rob, And it might be true,
but I don't, like you said, I don't know what
Asia Wilson is or or you know, Angel Reese. I
have no idea or a Leah Boston, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Did you say some people see that three by Boston?
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah, yeah, wow, but you know it's just Pritchard. That
would be his second is the second one of the series. Ridiculous, Wow, wow, Wow,
it's gonna be a celebration in the second half.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But yeah, I mean, I I don't.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Think that Rob. I just don't think that average fans
know all that now.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I mean, you gotta really know the I don't think
people wear it on that suite.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Britney Grinder's married. I think she's still but she's obviously,
but that was public that she was married. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean, I don't know about a lot
of the other players.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, I think that's that's a big assumption to say
that everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I think I think when she shot against Steph, didn't
she have a boyfriend? I thought we'll get that for
the next but I thought she might might have been
with her boyfriend, scene with her boyfriend, you know, at
the All Star Game when she shot against Steph.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So that would be another one who's straight. So I
don't know. People are looking Rob.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
For Yo she's straight because she's white and they don't
want to just be like Yo.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
She plays in exciting fun brand with you, Chris.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think that that is what flipped, especially for a
lot of guys who all of a sudden were like, what,
I've never seen a woman shoot like this, Like, I
really believe that that was it. If she played a
traditional women's game, I doubt that we would be here.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I really do, Rob, you what you got well to
that point.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
But Brina and ESCO's she's married to a raider, right, Okay,
I have no idea, but I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Love was in the air.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
This is this is March twelfth, twenty twenty four. Love
was in the air over the weekend for New York
Liberty guards Sabrina and Escu and Las Vegas raiders Rhness Grasseu,
the long time longtime couple tied the knot. So I mean,
she's so right, Why isn't she as famous.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
As you know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (31:06):
Right to old guys's point, you said, why can't it
just be that she plays a fun, exciting brand in basketball?
There was a stat that came up during their broadcast
over the weekend in one of their games that her
average depth of three point shot is over twenty eight feet.
That's long, hop, that's deeper than Steph Curry, Kevin Durant,
pick your favorites. What I'm talking about that that's what
(31:26):
I'm talking doesn't mean she hits it at that clip,
but that's where she's shooting from.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So when it goes in, it looks great, right right right,
all right, A couple, Thanks for your calls.
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Rob Charles Barkley announced that next year will be his
last season as a broadcaster.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Here he is.
Speaker 13 (32:20):
He's around our network the last few months, and I
just want to say, I've talked to all the other networks,
but I ain't going nowhere other than TNT. But I
have made the decision myself. No matter what happens, next
year is going to be my last year on television.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
There he is.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I'm not surprised. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I mean, he's done it a long time. It's not
going to be the same. He's already always talked about
why he never.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Went to ESPN. Chris and you know that he said
that they would have them on every show. He didn't
want to.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
He said, I don't want to work like that. He said,
they have me on deport that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
But real talk, he'd have been on First Take a
Sport Center. Yeah, that's why a lot of those guys
don't go to YS.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Right, you know, I mean that's just how it is.
And he can, he can work two nights a week.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And make a lot of money and have a great life.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
And I think the allegiance to TN T. I'm not
surprised either. I told you you know, Ernie's not going
Anywhere's father worked there, as father pitched for the Braves.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
There's a tradition there. They've been good to him.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I just I never saw him leaving Chris, And now
you're hear Barkley, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I'm just I'm not. I'm not leaving TNT Roger. So
does T and T still have the NBA? Next year?
He'll be more.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Next year is their last year. He'll Even though it
hasn't been official that they're out of the next TV deal,
all signs point to it because the other ones are
locked in basically.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Like you're trying to get some sort of package or
some sort of left on a meat right, right.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I believe that Charles means this and rob in a
certain sense, I would salute him because a lot of
times I do say and look, people do what you want.
And we got work in their eighties, right, and they're
in great shape in part because they're doing something they
love and they're still active and stuff. But there's also
(34:25):
something to be said about Man, I'm sixty six years old,
seventy years old, whatever, and I got all the money
in the world.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I can spend all my money if I tried. Let
me enjoy life, let me travel with my family. See
my grand you know.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Just one of my grandson's literally like yeah, stuff like
that that you can't put a price on.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Right, So there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Now, I'm not saying we talked about he works during
the basketball season two nights a week, so he does
have plenty of.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Time to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
But I'm just saying I I respect people that want
to keep working, Rob until the wheels fall off, so
to speak. And I also respect those who are like,
you know what, I got other things I want to do,
and they step away and they enjoy, you know, doing
all the things they couldn't do while they were working.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, and so, but he'll be missed.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm not sure Rob that I do one hundred percent
believe he means it now, But I don't know. I mean,
you never say never, right, somebody could throw the right
off rating and maybe he would continue.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
I don't know, yeah, I think he wouldn't. He didn't
have to do that. So for him to do it
tells me because he just didn't have to say all that.
He just didn't and he wanted to put it out
there to let people know that it doesn't because he said,
it doesn't matter what happens. He said, this is gonna
be my last year. And when he says that, he's
talking about what if the Turner got some sort of
(35:53):
you know, booby prize package, you know, like ten Games
of Chris. He just said I'm done. And he's done
it for a long time, twenty five years on TV.
It's had a great career. It will be contribute. I mean,
people will consider him one of the all time great
sports broadcasters and he's got his place in history.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
And if he's done, he's done.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah he he.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Off the top of my head, Rob, I say he's
the greatest player to ever move into broadcasting, you know,
like as far as he's had the greatest broadcasting career
for an ex player.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean, some people might want to say straight hand
because he's on Good Morning It was on Good Morning America.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Right, which is pretty huge.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
No, that's I mean, he's that's that's pretty big to
move into the mainstream national news.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And then some of the other guys I think of,
like who else is you know, like as played by
play Pat Somemeroll was a former player.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
You know, he had a long career. There's some guys
out there.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
No, that's fair. You forget that he was a player.
I mean he was a player before we were born.
But alright, a couple we out pers
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Speaker 3 (01:03):
Talk about right now, Rob.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
And of course this past weekend things got chippy when
Angel Reese of LSU fame now with the Chicago Sky
and having a nice rookie year.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
She's having a really good year. And Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Rob of the Indiana Fever of Iowa, University of Iowa
Fame and those two, of course, had a great rivalry
in college, and it seems to be going on into
the pros. They're the two best rookies, and Caitlyn Clark
is I think right now the leader as far as
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rookie of the year. She's really and she's picking it up,
starting to play well even better. But when they met recently,
did you see Rob Angel Reese had what I'll call
a hard foul on Caitlyn Clark when she was trying
to go. Clark was driving to the basket and Reese
(02:05):
was going for the block, and instead of getting the block,
she hit Clark in the head and it was given
a flagrant one.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
My take on that, Rob was.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
That I'm fine with them calling a flagrant one because
it looked violent. Not that she did on purpose, but
it looked bad. And you know, this is a time
where you know, everybody's worried about concussions, and rightly so,
and so you know you take that into consideration.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But I by the letter to law, which is.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Any unnecessary conduct contact. I didn't think it was unnecessary
contact more than any other foul. She was going for
the block. I thought she clearly was going for the block.
She did wind up rob but she was looking at
the ball the whole time. Once Clark went into her
shooting motion, Reese was looking at the ball. She wasn't
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looking at Clark, and I thought if she was, if
she was trying to hit her in the head, she'd
have been looking at Clark.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And she just you know, didn't get the block.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
But I think too, because of what's happened with Clark too,
so they're on the lookout for that, do.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, but I would think, I mean they probably knew
well the one with the last time with Kennedy Carter
that was clearly a flagrant foul unnecessary.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This one I just thought, was, you know, she was
going for.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The block block, and you know it wasn't any more
unnecessary contact than any other foul.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Right, you're trying to stop the ball or get the
ball or whatever you hit somebody. But anyway, Angel respoke
afterwards and here she goes robbing in.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
You could take it for inside. I mean, I think
we were playing really hard.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I think we went up really strong a lot of times,
and we didn't get a lot of calls.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And going back at looking at the film, I've seen
a lot of calls that weren't made.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I guess some people got.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
A special whistle.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
So she's said a special less illusion. Yeah, illusion, And
she's eluding to Clark.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Chris, here, here's Romeo, and I get it. You know,
the w NBA really Caitlyn Clark, not the w NBA.
Caitlyn Clark moves the needle. We said this before this happened.
She moves the needle. Okay, whatever it is, she moves
the needle. But the w n B, A for real,
(04:31):
is not going to grow if all we're talking about
are the caddy kind of other stuff that's going There's
no basketball talk here, okay, there is none. It's the
jealousy talk. It's if they're trying to hurt her, they're
jealous of her, like it's a soap opera. There's no
basketball talk at all. Nobody nobody is looking at the
(04:54):
games or dissecting the games, or trying to figure out
the best teams and who's got the best strategy and
how did they stop for I haven't heard any of that. Now,
you tell me, Chris if you have, because I haven't
heard any of that stuff. The only things I hear
are the personality and that stuff is fine. It does
move the needle, but I don't think it grows the
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game after a while.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It just doesn't think that the women commentaries or commentators
on ESPN who played in the league or played.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
College basketball or what have you.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
They are trying to talk basketball. But what's the reason
we're even talking w NBA at all? Rob are the storyline?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right? But I disagree with you in that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I do think that's good for the league and Rob
that first of all, that's how I mean football people
are just into But we know what what blew the
NFL up, Rob, the gambling, fantasy football and all that.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's what changed the NFL right.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Where they went from being second to baseball to becoming
the most pot because people Bible don't.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
People don't remember when the NFL was taking off of
Monday Night Football on ABC. Like people people act like
that didn't happen, and Monday Night Raw used to get
a better ratings. Monday Night Raw Chris used to get
better rated than Monday Night Football like and then when
fantasy football had changed everything, it totally changed it. And
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again that had nothing to do with the x's and
o's that was, but it was just gambling.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And I rob you know, we're we're sports writers. Storylines
are what people are interested in. We always are looking
for the human element of it. And I do think
that I get what you're saying. I'm just saying completely true,
but that that's what people that's what draws people when
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baseball rob you know, obviously they don't get the coverage
they used to get. And what if they tried to
do to counter that make baseball fun again? The times
we talk like on the national scene rock that people
are really talking about baseball as far as talk shows
or radio and TV is generally it was old tiny
(07:12):
and the bet, you know, the gambling scandal. But what
I'll say, you know, not nationally, not locality, store local, locally,
the talk about the talk about the game, the exes
and notes, and all I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Saying is, but I'm talking about nationally.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Right, at some point you got to talk about the
game like like I get it now, and that the jealousy,
how how at some point the game has to be
a factor as well. Even in the NFL where you
have these great storylines, it's about who won and who
played well and who didn't play well, And you got
to have some of that, and I'm just saying I
(07:48):
don't feel that. I don't feel like I'm getting any
of that. And You're right, some of the female uh,
they're trying to try and but avail because that's just
not the conversation that they want to have on those shows. Right,
nobody's trying to break down a w the fever and
what they what they did and they couldn't get open
for threes or whatever they want, Like what defense was that?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But Rob?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I mean again, and I know I'm kind of limiting
it to national TV talk shows and radio talk shows
because you're right, locally baseball, they'll break.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Down the whole game for on local station, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But the WNBA, Rob, we never talked WNBA.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
No, you not talked to w NBA. The second when
you gave.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
A w NBA update score, I was like, well, I've
been here six seven years.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I never remember the score.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And that's where I think what the league needs to recognize. Look,
I agree, and I think that the league and the
players in the league rob outside of and to be honest,
I think even Caitlin.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Clark feels like this way.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'm sure they are tired of all you're talking about
are the rivalries or the personality con right? The resentment
and and I will say this Rob too, even.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Though it happens in men's sports as well.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
We've talked about that Jordan getting nice out of the
game Lebron's teammates when he was a rookie thinking it's
still their team, and you.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Know, things like that happen.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
We talked about Linzo ball, Patrick Beverly picking him up
full court and making the tough on him. But there
is some element Ryan, let me, I want your thoughts
on this, and it's I think probably upsets the women
as well. Even though I have not heard a woman
say this, some of this does play in the female
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stereotypes and that might be why they get so mad
when people say they're jealous.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Clearly they I mean what you know, what you.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Mean right, But to them they probably feel like, well,
that's that's a female stereotype or resentment. Oh you know,
you're playing us up like we're just it's cat fighting,
you know, between girls and all that. And I get that,
and I understand them feeling that way. I could be wrong, Rob,
(10:09):
but I think the hope for the w NBA should
be look we understand they're only tuning in for Caitlin
number one, or if she's got a rivalry, or there's
some other uns some surly storyline. But the hope is
that people will tune in for those reasons or and
then see other good players, see other good you know,
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basketball being played, and then really start getting in.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's what That's what I'm saying, that's what they hope.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I'm sure it's got to be a little bit more
of that so that we can feel like and like,
I'm watching something that I want to see. After a while,
I can tune out and I could I don't have
to watch the games to get the caddy stuff to.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Get that days of our lives if you want to
play it, right, I mean, on is that soap operas?
For those things? Man, those things never g Soap operas
never die. I know they've been seeing one. I mean
now that I'm working, I never saw.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
But as a kid, my mom watched them and during
the summer i'd see them, right, and you know what,
and and uh, a lot of there were a lot
of sports writers who watched them too, Quis because you
know we work at night covering games.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, like I remember Curtis Stephen a Curtis Bond who
used to But but I remember Curtis was that because
during the day, you know what I mean, you'd have
lunch in your hotel before you would go to the
ballpark to the arena.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Right right now. But yeah, I ROGI.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Rob G's dad did it, same thing, he said, But
he said he watched all.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Of them, right.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
He would call me, like we call we once a week.
He'd be like, hey, trip out on what happened on
this episode. So this guy's sleeping with his sister. He
doesn't know that he's been dead for someone us like wait,
what back?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh my gosh, nuts nuts, But yeah, I you know
the interesting thing, Rob, I don't know though. I mean,
I do think with Caitlyn Clark, if she becomes a
bona fide superstar in the WNBA as far as the player,
She's already a celebrity and you know, arguably a superstar
as far as just popularity. But if she becomes like
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this phenomenal player in the pros as she did in college,
I do think people will tune in for her, and
I do think a rising tide will lift a boats.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
But she gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And Rob, the thing is this, and you know we
hold when it gets to the pros, we hold people
to this.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
She's gotta win. And Rob, she never.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Won a national championship in college. And I'm not saying
she's not a winner. I'm just pointing out the facts.
She never won a national championship college and Rob and
high school. You know, I went to the same high
school she went to. They never won a state championship.
And she was amazing, obviously, and they never won the
state championship. So she's gonna have to not only get
(13:13):
here to the WNBA and put up numbers, but Rob,
she's gonna have to win.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And if she does do that, I do think she
can spark popularity around the league.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine On Fox, It's the Eye Couple.
You'll turn the way in. Rob says the WNBA will
not grow if all of the storylines are Caddy, did
you mean cat fighting? Is that what he meant? Did
he play into the stereotype at cat fighting? What are
your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, Chris and Rob
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
All right, it's the I Couple, Chris a Rob live
from Thetierank dot com studios. Rob the Celtics pulling away
a little bit forty six thirty one, so fifteen points
midway through the second and Rob. Jason Tatum's leading the
way so far eleven points and seven assists.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Started off a little bit cold too. He's a good
spot now, Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting. And what we
talked about if he plays well and closing out he
has a great shot.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well in Rob, he I mean, if he ends up
like Lucas game. That's one of his challenges obviously, is
the free throw line. It's been for some reason, been
incredibly bad during the finals. But Tatum entered the game
averaging twenty points in the series and Brown was averaging
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twenty point eight. So if Tatum ends up as their
leading score, you know, like outscores Brown enough where he's
the leading scorer for the series. For the Celtics, he
would lead them in points, rebounds, and a SI.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I don't know how you ain't gonna get the MVP.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Right, I mean, that's something that's hard not to acknowledge.
Even if the shooting percentage is low, they win and
he leads them in all those areas, all right, that
means something?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
All right?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Eight seven seven, nighty nine on Fox WNBA, your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
All right, dre Andre in Massachusetts. You're on the couple
of Fox Portraito.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (15:57):
Dright, Yeah, you're doing Thank you for taking a call.
You're absolutely onto something. All of these narratives, these contrarian
narratives around in Kitlyn Clark right now are preposters and
holding WNBA backpoint flit period and the story what would
have happened in nineteen eighty four eighty five if the
veterans had got on some kind of campaign against Michael
Jordan and his new shoes and he's Nike commercials that
(16:18):
had people going bananas? How was that?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
What they did? They freeze They froze him out of
the All Star Game. But he was a play but he.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Remember the NBA wouldn't let him wear the Jordans initially, remember,
because they didn't have any white on him.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
They were black and red. They were like, you need
some white on these sneakers.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
One hundred percent, Chris. And what did Nike do with
their ad campaign? They had the famous commercial with the
Jordans in the distance and then them coming back and
then the X on them saying ban and then sales
went through the roof. My point is that the growth
of the game associated with star players is something that
it's a rising tide to lift all boats in the WNBA.
I'm sorry, it's enough. They need to either shut the
(16:57):
heck up about Kaitlyn Clark or get behind and support
this rookie and stop all these narratives that are you know,
I don't care about.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Keep andre on, Keep andre on, because here's the thing.
Do you think the players and Rob you can answer,
do you think the players are doing something wrong, Like
there is rookie hazing, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's like, yeah, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You're not just gonna step in this league and do
what you did in college. Like I saw one dirty
hit which was Carter, you know, a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I don't blame Roe Reese for her shot. She was
going for a block.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
I get all of that. But if the league is fragile.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
This is a league that has not turned a profit
in over two decades. And the thing, the growth that
they're starting to have, specifically having chartered plays that is
directly attributed to case agree and this and this tone
of interest. So cut the nuts. And David Stern and
his leadership, he cut down on some of the negative,
contrary narratives. He just wouldn't let them rise up the surface.
(17:58):
So from a league stamp point, you know, we talk
to the players and that these storylines need to be
either egalitarian and uplifting or just promote.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Give people what they want.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
Kaitlin Clark, young star, you know, all the rest of
that stuff, and just leave the other nonsense behind.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Because yeah, it's interesting because I hear where y'all coming.
It's just a lot it's it's a real like negative
but but it's like we didn't talk about the man
all before. Now we're talking about it, but it's kind
of next Yeah we're talking.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I mean, is it better? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Like I understand you do you want some some part,
but this is like over the top, like like can
we talk about her? About the play?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Actually? Like just some play? That's all. Greg in Florida,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Greg?
Speaker 10 (18:50):
Okay, perfect stack way. I got a headline and then
a comment.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Okay, good line.
Speaker 10 (18:56):
Crap brought up, loses fifty dollars. Projected has lost over
a quarter bilsion the dollars the last twenty eight years.
The black girls are jealous and it took a white
girl to make a crack product still suck.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, here's where I'll say with the race, and you've
heard a lot of the black players Rob say, you know,
essentially this white girl's getting all this publicity and we've
been building the league where I would disagree with that,
and obviously we're in America. There's no doubt race has
an impact. But what I would say is, well, why
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didn't people let join to Breonna Stewart like this, or
or Sue Burn, Chris, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Or Diana Tarashi's not the first star white show start.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
We're not.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It's different from the NBA roight white Star.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
What what did we talk about?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
What she How she captured the imagination and the and
the viewership of all these people, Guys, girls, everybody was
the logo threes, the deep threes, like Steph. That's why
she's separate from all those other white WNBA stars, Chris,
because they played a traditional game that didn't move anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I'm just totally that's the five.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I don't know why people aren't like the white star
right now. If she were black, I gotta be honest,
I don't think she'd be quite as popular, but I
do think she's still She was shooting age like. I
still don't think should have been very popular.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I don't think quite as much, but I think she
still would have been very popular.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
She would have been very popular.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I think with the with the logo threes and all that,
that's what really captured everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Guys were like, did.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You see her? Did you see what she shot for?
We didn't see women shooting from there Chris.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
No, I agree.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And the passing ability too, like she's a phenomenal passer.
Eight seven seven ninety nine or five. If you want
to weigh in, we may take a few more calls.
It's this thing is hot.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yes, if you want to weigh in again, but eight
seven seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
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Speaker 4 (21:20):
All right, let's start with Joe and San Diego. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Joe?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
All right, thanks much for taking my call. Yes, one
of my things with the Sky, the Chicago Sky is
they want to have this bad girl image. Well, when
you have a bad boy image like in the NBA that, yes,
you're going to draw more scrutiny from the referees. Take
up a closer eye on you, and you're going to
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wind up getting more fouls called on you and getting
more technicals and getting more ejections. So for angel rees
to sit up and say what the referees affected the
outcome of a game, Well, you know you want to
have that image. That's this part of the image. You
don't get to be the bad girl and referees ignore
everything that you do. And second of all, real quick,
(22:07):
the coach of the Chicago Sky, I think she's got
a problem right there because she's sits up there talking
about how they're not executing, not doing this, not doing that,
And it seems to me like the players on her
team don't take responsibility for their actions. Like, ain't the
rees acting like she? You know, this is all the
stuff that's going on, and she has like you guys
(22:27):
on the networks are showing this, go show the reeplay
twenty times. Well, what does she expect me? She hits
somebody in the head, So she never really wants to
be culpable for her actions. And then the coach talked
about they won't do what I tell them to do,
you know, they don't execute, And this has coming down
to that coach will have to get control of that
team because right now I think Angel Reese is really
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running the house the team performs, or how their attitude
is and their coach.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Than he's into what he really is.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
How about Dan and Maryland, You're in the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Hello, yeah, d wrong, buddy.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Oh this is Darren, this is boyd Dre.
Speaker 11 (23:09):
That's up here.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Here's where I think you know Angel Angel Reef as actually,
believe it or not, she was. She and first Lady
Biden was the one who actually put Caitlin and Wnba
on the map when Angel did I can't see you
back to Kitland the National Championship games. And then the
first Lady Biden did the most unthinkable thing. She threw
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out the pity card for poor little kat right, yep,
got mistreated. So that's what started the whole snowball. And
then because Kitlyn, if you think about it, Kaitlyn ain't
asked for none of this, unfortunately for her.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
No, he's not a part of it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I will say this, She handles herself really well in Prescott.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
She says pretty much.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
To write this, I think if the roles were reversed,
if this was Angel Reef getting all the attention versus Caitlyn,
she would be trying to get even more more attention,
drawing to where Kitten A kind of just like it
is what it is, you know, I just want to
play ball. She has that old school kind of ball, mean, Cheuna,
I just want a ball, but everybody else is riding
(24:13):
it and pushing it and pushing whatever their narratives and
their agenda is using her as the reason behind it.
That's how I feel about it.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
You know.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
It's like, don't watch Kaitlyn. Yeah, she can ball. But
to the guys talking about Chicago, Chicago's using Caitlyn. Also.
They picked the kaiting so they can draw some attention
to themselves too. Yeah, because like you say, for every
for every hero, you gotta have a villain. In Chicago said,
guess what.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
We're getting at, tension.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
We'll keep our name in the news, even though it
might be for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
We're doing it.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yep, thanks Darren, appreciate it. How about Patricia in Arizona.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Patricia?
Speaker 11 (24:53):
What's up, y'all?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
How you what's up?
Speaker 11 (24:56):
I'm doing good. I just want to say this. I'm
tired of listening everybody say that Caitlyn is bringing eyes
to the game. Kaitlyn is bringing eyes to her game,
not to anybody else's.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Now, she's supposed to bring eyes to the other games
though she can't, right, but.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
She bringing eyes to the w N b A. We've
talked about that, the watching her, right.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
But it's only her game.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Well what she supposed to do when Michael Jordan came
into the NBA, where people watching his games? Or are
they watching him? It will eventually spread out to the
other teams.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
But you can't say it with an attitude like she's
at fault because people ain't watching the rest of the league.
Speaker 11 (25:37):
No, no, no, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not
saying any part of this is Kaitlyn's fault. Like Kaitlyn,
I'm not saying any part of it it's her fault.
I'm saying that these talking heads need to stop saying
Kaitlyn is bringing eyes to the game. Kaitlyn is putting
eyes on her and it ain't.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Nothing wrong with that, There's nothing wrong with But here
let me ask you this, though, do you we are
not just us first take get up my show, first things,
first to hurt everybody's talking w n b A, our
radio show and others that we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
The league, mostly Caitlin. But don't you think that's still
good for.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
The NBA or the w n b A to a
certain degree.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
But everybody's talking about Kaitling, like if anything happens to
Kaitlin with a foul and what have you. We talked
about it all day, every day, on every one of
the shows. I can't hear from from Fox to esc
and what um hearing about it? And they go on
and on. But the worst fount that happened in the.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
W n b A was when.
Speaker 11 (26:38):
Angel gotch gotcha she got well. They talked about it
for what two minutes?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, I hear you on that, thanks Patricia. But it's
just Rob. We knew this is how it's gonna work.
They hope. The hope is that it will spread to
other place.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
We talked about it because what do we say, She's
the hall them the hallm globe trotters. When she comes
to town or whatever, people go on the flock. But
the rest of the game is still getting six thousand
and seven thousand.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
She's averaging over fifteen thousand for her games.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Everybody else is a little is over seven, right, which
is to be expected. That's what we thought about it.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
But look, they were they haven't made.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Money in decades. Well, I mean they're gonna lose money.
They're gonna lose money.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
They got the chartered flights now that they added on
for for the w NBA.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Uh we got time for Omar, Omar, Las Vegas. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Omar?
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yes, sir, Yeah, they listen. But Celtics are up by
twenty Is that right? Oh my god? Yeah, they've I
gotta get him credit. Man, they bothered. Oh yeah, man.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
It's an interesting topic. I think those white women that
came in the league before Kaitlyn Clark, a lot of
it has to do with the fact that those women
are most of them anyway, they're breed and a lot
of them are Payland paroxu, and I think that has
a lot to do with him.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
What's going on as far as the following, and that's
I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't know if everybody.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I don't think everybody knows what everybody is, right, I
write all these other players, I don't know who's heterosexual
or now. I couldn't name anybody and tell you like
their preference.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I mean, you can assume, but but Chris, like.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Angel Reed, I don't know. I mean, and I don't
want to out anybody themselves.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Is Angel Reese?
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I that she's heterosexual, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I'm with you, you know, I don't know there No,
he's gone. You know what I'm saying. But I don't
come how.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
People are saying that Rob, And it might be true,
but I don't, like you said, I don't know what
Asia Wilson is or or you know, Angel Reese. I
have no idea or a Leah Boston, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Did you say some people see that three by Boston?
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah, yeah, wow, but you know it's just Pritchard. That
would be his second is the second one of the series. Ridiculous, Wow, wow, Wow,
it's gonna be a celebration in the second half.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But yeah, I mean, I I don't.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Think that Rob. I just don't think that average fans
know all that now.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I mean, you gotta really know the I don't think
people wear it on that suite.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Britney Grinder's married. I think she's still but she's obviously,
but that was public that she was married. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean, I don't know about a lot
of the other players.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, I think that's that's a big assumption to say
that everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I think I think when she shot against Steph, didn't
she have a boyfriend? I thought we'll get that for
the next but I thought she might might have been
with her boyfriend, scene with her boyfriend, you know, at
the All Star Game when she shot against Steph.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So that would be another one who's straight. So I
don't know. People are looking Rob.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
For Yo she's straight because she's white and they don't
want to just be like Yo.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
She plays in exciting fun brand with you, Chris.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think that that is what flipped, especially for a
lot of guys who all of a sudden were like, what,
I've never seen a woman shoot like this, Like, I
really believe that that was it. If she played a
traditional women's game, I doubt that we would be here.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I really do, Rob, you what you got well to
that point.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
But Brina and ESCO's she's married to a raider, right, Okay,
I have no idea, but I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Love was in the air.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
This is this is March twelfth, twenty twenty four. Love
was in the air over the weekend for New York
Liberty guards Sabrina and Escu and Las Vegas raiders Rhness Grasseu,
the long time longtime couple tied the knot. So I mean,
she's so right, Why isn't she as famous.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
As you know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (31:06):
Right to old guys's point, you said, why can't it
just be that she plays a fun, exciting brand in basketball?
There was a stat that came up during their broadcast
over the weekend in one of their games that her
average depth of three point shot is over twenty eight feet.
That's long, hop, that's deeper than Steph Curry, Kevin Durant,
pick your favorites. What I'm talking about that that's what
(31:26):
I'm talking doesn't mean she hits it at that clip,
but that's where she's shooting from.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So when it goes in, it looks great, right right right,
all right, A couple, Thanks for your calls.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
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Rob Charles Barkley announced that next year will be his
last season as a broadcaster.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Here he is.
Speaker 13 (32:20):
He's around our network the last few months, and I
just want to say, I've talked to all the other networks,
but I ain't going nowhere other than TNT. But I
have made the decision myself. No matter what happens, next
year is going to be my last year on television.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
There he is.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I'm not surprised. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I mean, he's done it a long time. It's not
going to be the same. He's already always talked about
why he never.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Went to ESPN. Chris and you know that he said
that they would have them on every show. He didn't
want to.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
He said, I don't want to work like that. He said,
they have me on deport that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
But real talk, he'd have been on First Take a
Sport Center. Yeah, that's why a lot of those guys
don't go to YS.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Right, you know, I mean that's just how it is.
And he can, he can work two nights a week.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And make a lot of money and have a great life.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
And I think the allegiance to TN T. I'm not
surprised either. I told you you know, Ernie's not going
Anywhere's father worked there, as father pitched for the Braves.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
There's a tradition there. They've been good to him.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I just I never saw him leaving Chris, And now
you're hear Barkley, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I'm just I'm not. I'm not leaving TNT Roger. So
does T and T still have the NBA? Next year?
He'll be more.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Next year is their last year. He'll Even though it
hasn't been official that they're out of the next TV deal,
all signs point to it because the other ones are
locked in basically.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Like you're trying to get some sort of package or
some sort of left on a meat right, right.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I believe that Charles means this and rob in a
certain sense, I would salute him because a lot of
times I do say and look, people do what you want.
And we got work in their eighties, right, and they're
in great shape in part because they're doing something they
love and they're still active and stuff. But there's also
(34:25):
something to be said about Man, I'm sixty six years old,
seventy years old, whatever, and I got all the money
in the world.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I can spend all my money if I tried. Let
me enjoy life, let me travel with my family. See
my grand you know.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Just one of my grandson's literally like yeah, stuff like
that that you can't put a price on.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Right, So there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Now, I'm not saying we talked about he works during
the basketball season two nights a week, so he does
have plenty of.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Time to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
But I'm just saying I I respect people that want
to keep working, Rob until the wheels fall off, so
to speak. And I also respect those who are like,
you know what, I got other things I want to do,
and they step away and they enjoy, you know, doing
all the things they couldn't do while they were working.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, and so, but he'll be missed.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm not sure Rob that I do one hundred percent
believe he means it now, But I don't know. I mean,
you never say never, right, somebody could throw the right
off rating and maybe he would continue.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
I don't know, yeah, I think he wouldn't. He didn't
have to do that. So for him to do it
tells me because he just didn't have to say all that.
He just didn't and he wanted to put it out
there to let people know that it doesn't because he said,
it doesn't matter what happens. He said, this is gonna
be my last year. And when he says that, he's
talking about what if the Turner got some sort of
(35:53):
you know, booby prize package, you know, like ten Games
of Chris. He just said I'm done. And he's done
it for a long time, twenty five years on TV.
It's had a great career. It will be contribute. I mean,
people will consider him one of the all time great
sports broadcasters and he's got his place in history.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
And if he's done, he's done.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah he he.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Off the top of my head, Rob, I say he's
the greatest player to ever move into broadcasting, you know,
like as far as he's had the greatest broadcasting career
for an ex player.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean, some people might want to say straight hand
because he's on Good Morning It was on Good Morning America.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Right, which is pretty huge.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
No, that's I mean, he's that's that's pretty big to
move into the mainstream national news.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And then some of the other guys I think of,
like who else is you know, like as played by
play Pat Somemeroll was a former player.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
You know, he had a long career. There's some guys
out there.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
No, that's fair. You forget that he was a player.
I mean he was a player before we were born.
But alright, a couple we out pers
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