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November 17, 2025 38 mins

Rob and Kelvin provide up-to-the-minute analysis of the Monday Night Football game between the Dallas Cowboys and the Las Vegas Raiders, debate whether it's fair to say that Shedeur Sanders has been getting a raw deal in Cleveland, and share their thoughts on SpitGate 2.0 involving Ja’Marr Chase and Jalen Ramsey.

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(01:15):
also this hour last call in case you weren't able
to get in earlier. Uh, You'll be able to get
in at the end of the show. Something that you
missed through the first two hours. So before we get
and we're gonna talk about real quick Rob G. So,
what was your Durta's birthday? You guys had a big party.
How'd that go?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
The birthday party? It was good?

Speaker 5 (01:38):
It's expensive. I heard Rob Parker's kicking in, which is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
You're kicking it? Hello? Can you hear me? Is this
so on? What'd you say? Yeah? You avoided the rain
right right? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Rob Parker said that he's saving a lot of money
downside it from one apartment to the nat He said,
the difference for this month is going right to that
party there you go that big round. For you to
do something like that at a time like this, it
just speak.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm gonna say this to you, and I know you
won't believe me. I'm dead serious where this goes. Seriously,
if just say, like I want a lottery or just
like a like a lot of money came in at
one time, a lot of money, Okay, I would pay
off Rob G's house, Alex. I would give you the

(02:25):
equivalent to whatever Rob G's house is.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
For you what I get. I would pay your house
off as well.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Anybody. I would pay your house off you know why,
because you don't give out money. You don't give money
to people that because they want to come back for more,
they get it. So what you do is if you
pay somebody's house off. Now that money that you normally
would pay your mortgage, that's your own money that you have.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Do you see what I'm saying. I did two things
for you?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh wow, he did two things.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I paid your house soft and now you have free
spending money for others to see.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
All our faces are waiting on you to say, and
you give me the title indeed, and now I own
the house, but you can live there. You can live there,
but I own it. I'm waiting on something. There's there's
no catch.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
My goal in life would be to make everybody, people
who I care about around me, make their lives better.
That's what I would do with that kind of money.
So the odds, I'm just serious. So I just read
the just blow through it or spend it for myself.
Oh I got nine rolexes now and eight cars.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I'm not that guy.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I'd have one nice car or whatever, and one nice
place and all that. But the people who matter to me,
who are around me.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I would take care of them. The good thing is
the odds I just read this on the news this morning,
were one and two hundred and thirty nine million of
him winning that. So he can say that knowing it's
not happened. You know, I would, You know, I would know.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
That's from my heart. You know that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know, rob G.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
You think I wouldn't do it?

Speaker 5 (04:06):
No, I think you wouldn't. That was a beautiful story.
But what does that got to do with you kicking
in on this party over the week?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's it? What the party? Ain't like paying up my house.
You ain't kind of pay that much. I don't know
that much, just like co rob G.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
But I haven't wanted yet, so I can't pay your party.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Right, he's just googled them? Let me see if Yeah,
he just googled odds he knew he won't go win it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, another odds is that sure Sanders isn't going to
make the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
How's that?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
That is good?

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Another one?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Very Good's very good. I don't know that's the way
the Pro Bow will be going. I don't know. Let
him have two more good games, two games the rest
of the season. He might be a good game. Where's
the frost? Said, toad down, slow down?

Speaker 5 (04:44):
When I said he's gonna have to really do better
than gee.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
People in Cleveland got their wish, They got their.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Made did Schadre Sanders played an entire half of football
for the Cleveland Browns, and he looked horrible all right?
Four for sixteen passing forty seven yards. I don't forget
he completed his first two.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
He did so.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
He actually finished two or fourteen there at the end,
with an interception and a thirteen and a half passer rating.
He was sacked twice, including a sack fumble, thankfully recovered
by his own team, so it wasn't a second turnover.
He also had one intentional grounding call.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
His thirteen and a half passer rating marked the lowest
passer rating by any player with at least fifteen attentph
a NFL debut since the immortal Brandon Whedon and twelve
who even Shador himself. Despite what your favorite NFL reporter
will say said, he had a rough game. It was
a tough game, all bad in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yes, unless you want to blame everybody other than Shador,
which is the conversation going around even the guys like
Rex Ryan I saw and the issue I had saying
I had to put on my son.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I was waiting. I was like, look at were not
talking about his teeth? Turn a new leaf. I don't
know who you are right now. I put the sun. Okay,
now that feels right now, so I can at least
look at him.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
But my point is he's talking about all about you know,
how they prepared him or didn't give him any stabs
and how like like he didn't he couldn't explain it,
but he said it was weird or strange.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Exactly the word that he used.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Dan Orlosky, who played a long time as a backup
set now it ain't I didn't get snaps, and I
was a veteran guy who was a backup for a
long time. I didn't get snaps with the first team.
It did, it didn't happen. So I guess it's different
depending on the coach and the organization or whatever. And
people have just forgot that these are two young quarterbacks
drafted the same draft. You want to get and I

(06:47):
mentioned it's a tej you want to get Dylan Gabriel
as many snaps as you can to get him if
you picked him, you drafted him third and should do
a fifth.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
And then the other thing too, is if the roles
were reversed.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And Shadoor was named the star, they got a concussion
and Dylan Gabriel came in and had that performance, people
would say he can't play And then you know what
I mean, Oh look did you see see? I told
you he can't play like that is the conversation that
I'm convinced people will have. And I understand people have
a soft spot for Shadoor because of Dion, and it

(07:24):
does because if his name was Joe Smith, it wouldn't
be the same. It's because it's Dion's kids and people
like Dion and for good reason. Okay, Dion was a
Hall of Fame football player, played Major League baseball, hit
a home run and scored a touchdown and again in
the same day for two different teams and two different

(07:44):
major league sports. Like he's that guy. But to just
pin it and say it's because of not getting reps
or fumbling the ball or you know, or whatever it is,
because because had he drove the team down and scored
the touchdown at the end, no one would have brought

(08:06):
up about not having the snaps and all the other
stuff that people use. It would have been like, see,
I told you he could play. Look at what he did.
He beat the Ravens, he marched down the field, whatever,
whatever like. It was set up for Shador to do
that and and and have a chance to have a
different conversation. But it didn't. It didn't materialize, and there

(08:27):
was a lot of stuff that didn't work out. My
point is just this. For people to think that uh
Stefanski and the brain trust at the Browns have come
up with a scheme so that Shador can't succeed, it

(08:49):
is ludicrous to me. It's against everything that goes into
sports where an organization hasn't been able to find a
quarterback uh and develop one or whatever in a long time.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
And it just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
If that kid really was the real deal, they would
have put him in and I and I can't, for
the life of me not think of Tom Brady and
the Raiders, Like, seriously, this is somebody who worked with
Shador who claims to be you know, a.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Mentor right to Chador.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Gino. Is that really like should okay?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Like they wanted no part of him, and they could
have easily had him a couple times in the draft.
So I looked at it. Am I saying he can't play.
Of course he can play play major college football, but
stop making excuses for Shador.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Guess what.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Just forget about everything else and just look at his play.
He played poorly. There's no other way up. Did you
could look at it? He played poorly period. I think
two things can be true. I think he play. Let
me not say that he played poorly. I don't think
he did play poorly. He left. And what's crazy?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I was talking Rob g about this that touchdown opportunity
he had. If he hits that receiver in the end
zone there who had a nice distance between and the defender.
That changes things, right, because then you stop looking at
the completion percentage. You say, hey, they're right back in
this thing. I don't remember if they would have had
a lead at that point, but it'd have been they
would have tied the game up right there. Big play
was like, yeah, it was a moment he missed that throw.

(10:28):
You that has what were watching? I think off camera
you said Gino Smith had an opportunity. You're like, man,
he's got to make that throw in the end zone.
You gotta make those throws. Those are what pro quarterbacks do.
So he played miserably for most of that game. Had
a few plays here or there that were, you know,
some nice plays, some couple completions, you know, way he
checked down a couple of times. It's okay, there's some
things that left desirable. However, the other side of this

(10:49):
is there is something to be thrown in in a
second half when you never have gotten snaps. And Cam
Newton had this to say, kind of as a back
and with his exc men, you brought it up. Each
team might be different. Here's what he said his experience
being the starter, but what it was like for his backup.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
This is the thing that really irks me the most
is because he doesn't get any reps. Circa twenty fifteen
circle when Cam Newton was the MVP, CIRCA when hey,
my body needed to know that majority of my career
was probably the biggest blessing of my career to have
a veteran in Derek Anderson. Ron Rivera still knew we're

(11:30):
one playaway kid from you not being available. We would
have anywhere from six to twelve reps in every single
practice that allowed Derek to still have an ability to say.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Hey, if it goes how it goes now granted, so
I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Say, well, Cam, you played the position any different?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, what is that to say about properity?

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Well, what is that to say about any other quarterback
that's here?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
You plan for the what iff in this league?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
So you brought up a great point. I believe if
we asked thirty two teams there would be something that
will say I never got snaps.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I completely agree. And he played for the lines for
a long time. Making that story up. Rob g with
talking to every of the old joke about what they
Peyton Manning. They're basically saying his backup never gets many reps.
They said why, they said, uh, because if eighteen go out,
we're screwed. Essentially the paraphrase, then keep my job.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
So I do think organizations are different, but it makes
this one strange to me. Is Dylan Gabriel you say
needs all the snaps? I say, hasn't wowed me to
the point if I'm them saying where we should be
giving both snaps to just just a few, just a few,
Dylan Gabriels our starter. You get a few because you're
both rookies. We're both trying to see what you got
to see who our guy is the start in practice, though,

(12:48):
I want to want to watch him go up against
the ones, is what I'm saying. So, Dylan, you're starting,
that's not a question. You are a starter. You're getting
ninety five ninety ninety five. We want to see just
a few because hey, you'r rookie, is not you're not
paid me or Tom Brady? Will we know goodwill you
know you are everything? You might have a bad two
three game strets. We want to see what this guy has.
So I'm more shocked than they haven't given him a

(13:08):
few reps just simply because Dylan gabro is your quarterback,
and that means you don't have a quarterback as of
right now because he hasn't played that great. He still
deserves to be a starter, I'm not saying as long
as he's healthy. Also, it'll be interesting you brought it
up with the people being like, man, something going on
with this team or they it is something about it
just feels like they almost have buyer remorse immediately. Maybe

(13:30):
it's justifiable, Maybe there's something to you. Maybe it's practice.
Maybe they don't like the man or stuff. He says.
I don't know, but it does feel like.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
They could cut him if they really like, like, sir,
what are they holding on for?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Seriously?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Well, you need no no, no no, But I'm just
they could cut him.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
It ain't about selling no jersey. You sold all the
jersey you want to. You're done with that. If it
was about a p Auslo, he's not playing. We don't
even talk about him up until his point because he
wasn't playing, so you didn't get any extra juice. If
you really don't want the guy in the building or
don't want them, or you looked at them, that's what.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
You were like, he's here, but we're not young ho
about it. That's what it feels.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, But I'm just saying the idea that you would
you would have a talent in your building and ignore
him because you're trying there's some bigger power or some
bigger oh you know, because for all the people, and.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
You were one of them.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh this doesn't make sense to me, you know, and
all this and and and there's conspiracy or whatever. And
then you find out that teams did call and they
and he said, I don't want to go to Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I don't want to go to Philly.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I don't want to go to teams that have starting
call well, well that's why he kept dropping. But but
but but but people were saying it was because they
were trying to make make a point or the league
was trying to say, you know what I mean, like
put him in his place.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
The Ravens called for him. I'm just saying, because the
Ravens actually, and you're gonna sit behind Lamar Jackson. Which
is the irony is that this would have been he
would have started because Lamar missed a handful of games.
But the Ravens are an organization that have done things differently. Look,
they took Lamar and Philly right, and those are both
teams that have a quarterback. I had some you know

(15:17):
have had. They took in Mike Vick some years ago.
They don't mind maybe some of the the what comes
with that. So that might have been his own, you know,
doing to not want to go and back up those
guys because they look at their projected starters for years
to come.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
But people made it that the NFL sent out the
word not to draft him.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
But that doesn't make sense that actually, but we get
that explanation later. At least makes sense because there had
to be some explanation why guy that for a long
time was talking in as the first rounder, Okay, maybe
a second rounder, third dropped on a fourth to fifth.
So at least that even if that's what happened, that
makes sense. There's some type of exclanation as to how
we got to know.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
But then they if the NFL wanted to put the
cop boss, he would have been drafted at all.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I don't understand why would he be drafted at all
if they wanted to put him in his plan.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I still believe that there are people who didn't like
his disposition, not that they're same. He doesn't didn't need
to be drafted, but I don't there's something about him
I don't like or I don't like his disposition, his attitude.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
He still NFL quarterback and he's in the game. I think,
just don't buch.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I want to see if he gets his first
starter position, where he gets the one snaps, and I
want to see what that looks like.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
All right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Is
Shador Sanders getting a raw deal in Cleveland? Did he
deserve to get at least first team reps before Sunday?
Or did he just stink on Sunday? How about that?
We'll continue that conversation next with you. It is The

(16:43):
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Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, I didn't do anything, but I gotta. I had
to get a haircut. I was looking crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Showing your furniture, your new face. That's what you ain't
get out there in the street. Love my new place now.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Ah do?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah? That's good.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
God?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
What rob G?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why are you reacting to Waiders stuff as if it
matters like he's reacted like the dB didn't make you intercept.
Oh my god, it's seventeen to six, and Rob G's acting.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
Like brand is the same thing like when you watch
Aaron Judge strike on in the plane.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I got nothing to do with you. We are fans.
If you help it. I can't wait to oversize boxing
glove charity match. You too fought at the Palace. I
told you that I had again that crypto with the
big gloves in front of sixteen thousand people.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
From me, you can get on the Anthony Joshua, Jake,
Paul Undercarter.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'll do that. I know. I want to fight your
rome or something. That's what Doug Gottlieb, Doug Gottlieb, Doug
a little Doug in shape, a little bit an athlete.
You were supposed to fight three months ago when you
was in your tip top shape. You don't wait it
too well? Could do it over the summer, und the
summer peak. Well, next next, I've got time, You got time?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
N A B.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Jay's coming up right, I'll get back there. I never lucky.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
We get this and then after y'all fight, you didn't
hear that?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
And Ben Maler's up next. Ben's been waiting to fight
you for weeks. That's a good pointing the air and
hands on you say her name, hold the sign, say
we're to the Christmas party coming up? Wait, who's we?

Speaker 7 (20:03):
No, soccer's going, mazzis going, yes, Maybe dub ain't going,
rob g I can't believe you don't go.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
It's far man.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Where's he living?

Speaker 5 (20:15):
I mean, I'll put a bit in out there, but
I don't say from my house. It's like an hour
from your house. It's like an hour forty?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Does he live in California? All right? Eight seven seventh Fox,
I we're talking about your door play horribly. There's no
way around that. But did they do him any justice?
Not giving him any reps? Or it's just his fault anyway?
A seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Who we got, Hey, Chili, Tim in Atlanta, you're in
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
What's up, Chili? You know what up?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Run?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
What up? Tim?

Speaker 10 (20:47):
Hey, Rob Kelvin and all of these people making more
excuses to put your door than a brother going to jail.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Man. I mean, come god, why.

Speaker 10 (20:58):
It's okay Malka for this?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes? Wait, half Chili, half.

Speaker 10 (21:08):
Calvin. You don't drop from a first round draft pick
to see if you that good. I just don't care.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
The league doesn't really come out against you like that.

Speaker 10 (21:16):
I mean, come on, man, he just wasn't as good
as everybody.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
There you go, Chilli, There you go, Chili. I want
you to call that if he has a couple of games,
because you're calling after a half. I guess the Yeah,
he got the Raiders next week, the numbers about to
be nice.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Say you know what, Pete Carroll's gonna finally get a win.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
All right, Tim, Yeah, you better call back talking all
that smack. He got a half. He's right, he's right.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Like all the people who thought like like.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
He's played a half, it's no, it's not an exact
science like you're doing. Everybody said he was a first
round pick. No, everybody didn't think he was a first
round pick.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I want you to go find me the fifth round pick.
How about that. I can show you Tom Brady was
a sixth round pick. No, no, I'm saying, show me
how the people said he would be a fifth round No,
but no, I'm saying we told the man's note round
second round.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Oh why the people get it wrong?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Sometimes they got mad at them getting it wrong, Rob,
But the fifth round is crazy. And you know that
there were other.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
People that wanted to take him sooner.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
He didn't want to go. That's what happened to you, guys,
realized what just happened? What's that?

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Rob Parker's hate for Shador Sanders is so strong he's
defending Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Wow, crazy Tom Brady did it as a sixth round
peals crazy talics. Make sure you got that on lot.
Hate for black quarterbacks, it's crazy. But then you say
that I love Lamar that I'm just everybody gotta have
a token. Yeah, yours, he's so, he's the one, so

(22:49):
you can say, no, look at my black friend. He's
your black friend.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Rob.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
What do you think of Deshaun Watson?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
No, no about yours. What do you mean about Jayleen Hurris?
No home? No keep going? Who? No, no, everybody no,
Jaxon Dart by the way, before we go, Matthew Stafford,
well he honorary black. Detroit has a Detroit adopted Matthew Stafford.
He's honorard Black. That's why you're like two.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Favoite black quarterbacks of Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
There you go, yeah one Dougie now all Baking Mayfield black.
Uh before we go to Manzi Moncy, uh Rob said
to me off the air. The Clippers won this entire
game forty six of the forty eight minutes. How doy
lose his going them out?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
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Speaker 2 (23:44):
Jamar Chase is now the latest to participate in this
uh spitgate. He spits in Jayleen Ramsey's face. Well, first,
we don't know they're getting into it. Jayalen Ramsey into
swinging on him. Everybody say why you swing on? He said,
he spit on me. We get all the camera angles
rob and clearly he spit on them. And you and
I have talked about this before because it has happened
multiple times now where I don't understand how that's the

(24:04):
result football tough sport. Guys fight, they push each other,
they grab each other's face, masks, all that stuff that happens.
But the idea of spitting on somebody, and we've mentioned
it before, that's like the lowest thing. That's like the
most disrespectful thing you can do. You can call me
of this, you can call me that. We can push,
we can get into its football. We're used to it.
But to spit on somebody, and to spit all your
big old LOGI I'm blown away at how many times

(24:28):
this happens. And then it got me to thinking, did
this happen all the time back in the seventies, eighties, nineties,
and we just didn't see it with the cameras, you
know what I mean, we didn't have the access to
so many cameras now like and guys were doing it.
We just didn't know because we always saw the second
guy punch somebody was like, I wonder why you hit them?
Why do you do that? Right in front of the ref?
They always get penalized. That's stupid. You know you're gonna

(24:49):
get penalized. And I'm wondering, what was this happening a
lot back then we just didn't see it, Or is
this just new guys saying I don't want to punch
you and break my hand or mess up my you
know what I mean, Or I don't want to get
caught by the wrestle. Let me, maybe nobody can see
it because this has happened. It's like the third or
fourth time this season this has happened, and it doesn't
make sense to me. It's the worst sign of disrespect
to spit on another grown man, and absolutely you deserve

(25:11):
to get punched, which is why I'm glad the league
is saying, all right now, Jayson Ramsey deserves to punch
you in this case, Jamar Chase, if you are spitting
on people, man, I don't that's this is crazy. How
often does this happened?

Speaker 7 (25:22):
Rob?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
We talked about at least this at least our third time.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, I mean the hard part for me would be
giving up a game check. I'm sorry you're giving up
a game check for that for nothing?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
About to fight for real?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
You're not on the street, right, what what are you
a professional athlete?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
What are you doing? Really? Seriously? What what possibly? Okay,
it's a give and take.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
We get a receiver of dB, you know what, going
back and forth, but enough that you want to spit
on another human beings. It doesn't It doesn't look right.
It doesn't feel like just a whole uh just just
a whole scenario doesn't make sense to me, Like it
really doesn't like what possibly you He's played football forever? Right,

(26:06):
what if somebody could say to you to make you
want to spit on them, like you could draw back
at them, right, your own comeback, right? But to spit
on somebody and then lose a game? How much money
he's making, Dude, you never recoup that. I don't care
anybody says that's.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's probably making. Like Jamar is probably making with like
a couple of million a year, just off the top
of my he's probably making there thirty a years something. Crazy,
I don't know, it's twenty yeah, I mean a tuple
of million game to give, But to give up a
game over it's crazy and and and this is again
why I'm glad we were able to see these things
because again if you just saw Jaylen Ramsey slapping punch

(26:42):
or something and he gets kicked out and it's like, no, dude,
this dude set up here and spaed on me like
a bunch too. Wasn't like a mistaken kind of a thing.
And so this is just again happening, and you set
it before everything's recorded. You can see that come whether
we saw it or not, it was going to be
seen because somebody was in the fifty yard line. Roll

(27:04):
two was rolling on it and would have gotten it.
It was going to come out. We have cameras all
over the television sets and networks have all their cameras.
Then there's seventy five thousand other cameras. Everybody has a camera.
You have to operate assuming everything's being recorded. I've said
that before.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
It's like, that's why we know that there's no bigfoot,
because everybody has a camera.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Now I need to can we get over big foot? Yeah,
it can be a big bigfoot bigfoot unless there he
have a mommy and daddy and a cousin and sister.
Not he just one bigfoot that we didn't see. He
ain't had no spawn, no children.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
But it's always like somewhere in some place at night,
you know, like everybody got a home now, everybody even
in uh you know these.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Uh po dunk yeah po dunk Arkansas. Yeah, you find them.
By the way, we need who else is on who
else on the list of get over it? Please lock
this monster? Get over it? Please? Who else? Anybody? All
this stuff? They would be all right by now, we
would we would have saint it, would have seen it
by now. But anyway, man, yeah, I just spent. Is
the worst thing you can literally almost rather you punched me, right,

(28:08):
because because there's the mono, we mono, the machism, the
football aggression of it. I'm kind of almost prepared for.
That's prepared for. You know, extra macheese, mo when I
order my pizza, you a little extra bited, Yeah, a
little extra Well you do have a little bit yours
more on the sports radio signe you off off my
you more chill?

Speaker 4 (28:27):
But people think I'm like an ass, don't Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
What do they say? He is?

Speaker 7 (28:34):
He?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Rob G always says, I told you I get all
the text, don't you? Is he really great? What's that?
What that do? Is he really that? I can't stand that?
He makes me? Rob G? Is that what you get to.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Is that what I get to?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, because I about him, people hit him up. Yeah,
people like you, you answered, I couldn't. Well, you know,
you're way more engaging and talking of and like loud
than than Mike Stone, your former co host. But it's
shocking how many people are in this business, how people
are blown away radio TV. When you get around them,

(29:08):
they're like really quiet and shy or just just a
different what you call. But but you're not. I wouldn't
say you're quite a shy now, No, no, no, not
at all. But you're not as loud and rambunctuous as
people might think.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's all right. Your people at Eastern Michigan.
I couldn't stand him when he was in Detroit. Anyway,
I already know what you're getting for getting these sex
mestag what you call. No, but they love us though.
I get a bunch of that. I told you everybody, man,
y'all crazy man. I came, i'll miss the show, y'all, wow,
my favorite show. And then your wife only watches half
the show we got. She don't even I don't even

(29:38):
know she'd be cherry picking.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
She's like, I don't listen to you today let me
she turns it on for two seconds and if she
had you done it, let me turn it off. We
met some more folks who are fans of ours too,
by the way, big time fan, big time fan too.
So it's good, good weekend, all right. On the way,
we got last call eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Is your chance to get in eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox? Your chance to get in on the show? Also, well,

(30:01):
we were talking about a little bit earlier and got
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Speaker 3 (30:10):
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Speaker 2 (30:22):
Fox Sports Radio A couple. One more time for your boys,
Robin Kelvin all the Magic City Monday. Hey my mom,
w Mama, dud wouldn't have left me though multiple times,
by the way, and left me Chicago, New York City?
Where else you leaving Paris or something? Stay kesh cps
when you got money. That's all I'm gonna say it

(30:43):
is gotom g.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I'm listening to say this tight pans tights.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
So you got to say short, you know San Francisto's
coming up soon.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
That was pretty funny, by the way, because you just
stuffed it there, Robs. You where was he implying?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
What?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Oh god, I know it was coming up? What about it?

Speaker 4 (30:59):
We'll be able to hang out in San Francisco, That's
all I'm gonna come on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I want to hat you out. It's San Francisco, just
me and you. It's San Francisco. Say that.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (31:09):
Did I tell you about this really cool cafe that
these ex convicts work out?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, well that's what we're gonna go eat. You already
know that the place de Las. Yes, that's yeah, some good.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
It's really good. And to and we go to the
wharf together. If you want what I want gate Bridge.
That's a lot of pancakes and some warm buns. Yeah,
he do like your warm buns. Okay, you do not
ask for him? Hey, can you bring his buns to me?
I said, did you not say that?

Speaker 8 (31:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I did not. What did you say? I said, Rob g?
Is that the bread put it over here, That's all
I said. To the way, put it over here.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
I said, bread, not puns.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
His buns haven't ever come here? Can you bring them
right over here? Okay? Rob g is that a pancake? No?
Allad was.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'm gonna just say this after watching Gino Smith tonight,
I'm gonna rest my case on black quarterback.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Wait a minute, Dark Prescott's black quarterback? What about him? Hey?
Can you bring his buns to me? Oh boy, thank you.
I'm glad you got Alex. Come on, all right, here
we go. That's all right. Last call.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
It's last call time on the odd Couple. If you
had to take and couldn't get in all show, here's
your chick, the last.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Last call time on.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
The Oni.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Andre in Massachusetts.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
You are the last call on the odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 10 (32:49):
What's up, dra Hey, what's going on? Thanks for taking
the call. Listen. Never mind all the drama and the
shenanigans going on with mister A. J. Brown as he
tries to find himself. Are sitting at eight and two,
led by their defense, Okay, and that's what's gonna lead
them the rest of the way. Look, folks, we got
to Okay, they got the Cowboys coming up Divisional game.

(33:09):
Cowboys are kind of falling off, but bears for Thanksgiving,
you stroll down the line. They got the Chargers Commanders
Bills Right. This Eagles team built the right way. Forget
all the crying, play outside outstanding, lights out defense, Give
the ball to say Kwon Barkley, be led by the run.
They're on track to repeat a Super Bowl champions It's

(33:30):
not a given, but they're building it the right way.
Not with their wide receiver, devon wide receiver, making sure
you get touches, defense, run the ball, control the clock,
win games.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Joyce saying it like they're running good? Say am I good?
Eight hundred and nine? Like it's not I get what
he's saying, but they're not even running the ball. Well,
what avert the Jalen Hurts running the ball? Why don't
they do that anymore? That was such a component of
what made them dangerous with Jalen Hurts. You know, not
all the time, but you know those five six time
was a game. I don't know why they don't do anymore?
Is it just halftime at this game? This has been

(34:04):
the longest.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Right, I'm I like, I can't believe it's just.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
At the end of the first quarter. I was like,
there's no Maybe this is college and they meant first
half or something.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
I've been watching watch I'm like, is it just the
first half?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
This is the longest game ever robbed g. I think
it's because y'all just have so many incomplete passes and
the clock will just would not keep y'all looked like
Joe Jared Goff last night. Man Jared Goff looked off, Hey,
can you bring his buns to me? You're gonna be
sore tomorrow. Oh I already feel it. Wow, Yeah, tomorrow
is gonna be a rough day. That was the worst

(34:37):
of all time. And that was the one I'm about
to you know what. That was the one that was
the one about I'm officially talking to the bosses on
that one. That was the Ron Parker's Bangkok Files. My bad. Yeah,
this is the one where it was from. But we
were talking he was talking about the Eagles being built up.
But one way, I do got to give credit. We

(34:58):
talked about it earlier that the Broncos de that defense
that's a super Bowl deep. I agree, fantastic defense. They play,
they play hard, they play fast, they're young, they're athletic,
and uh and and and they're they're built. And we've
seen in that same team. In fact, the Broncos. We
talked about with Peyton Manny. The first time he was
good the first year or two. Then the second he
was just there. He was just he was there. He
wouldn't get fine, ye, I mean, he was about to break.

(35:20):
His neck was broken. It was just all bad. But
that defense scary man. They get after it. Lead the
league in sacks, and they keep them in it and
it allows for Bownecks to if he makes a mistake,
they can overcome it. He'd make a mistake someday, No, right,
but I mean, you know, I mean if he can't
get it gone for some because they have weird lulls
where they can't get it for him for three quarters.
But if he can make a player two, they can

(35:40):
make a run or two make a catcher to they're
right there and they get a chance to win the game.
Because that defense is very, very impressive. So I gotta
give it to him. It's weird them the Eagles. The
Bears actually don't feel the same way about the Patriots.
They got to the kind of and maybe even the coach.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I know, I know people are like now scrutinized the
Patriots schedule and you know, like too easy, yeah, saying.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Oh that was the old Patriots, right, the old Patriots.
They have to beat nobody that was that was well,
that was always the time them. Sorry, six wins, right, yeah,
that's easy. And then we'll have a few just other
teams that are bad in the league. So we're gonna
go eight, nine, ten to know easily and they will
have to you know what this.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Is setting up for. Maybe we'll get this tomorrow as
a bigger topic. But we were talking about it off
the air. You guys just mentioned the Denver Broncos New
England Patriots. I aren't talking about the Colts, but last
time about the Colts objectively, by whatever metric you use,
are better teams than the Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills,
and the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
But when we get to the playoffs and two of
those three teams are matched up against one of each other,
who's gonna have the stones to say, No, I'm taking
Danny Dimes against Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Nobody, nobody, That's the question that is gonna be the
question because you're gonna get it kind of the usual suspects,
you know, the big names.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
First, he's upstarts until but until they do it and
prove it. I understand why people are going to question.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Because it was if it's Danny Dimes versus Mahomes, you're
making Danny dimes.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, but it won't be because of him, No, Danny done.
It'll be because of Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
I know you, but I know if it's Bo Nicks
and that vaunted Broncos defense again, Lamar Jackson, Lamar, you
got trains so early?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
No no, no, no, no no, because I've also I'm gonna
stick with my original Super Bowl pick. I'm not gonna
change that, even though I see the dynamics. I picked
the Ravens and the package. That's who I picked.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I'm not one of these guys that now they got
the right conference, right division, run right? Lions? Yeah, you
know you don't even feel lies right from No, you don't.
You don't even that worry me? Like for real, Like
you don't feel good about the line Eagles because they play,
Do you feel good about the Lions? Seriously?

Speaker 5 (37:55):
As long as they don't got to play outdoors in
cold weather.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, and the Rams. The Rams, that'll be a tough one.
But those are the only two teams that, like me,
go oh, everybody else is beatable, Packers beatable, beat the bus,
and say the Lions are beatable. Every team this year
is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Last year I remember more and wise was like when when?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
When?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Remember we're talking about the Lions in Washington tomorrow. The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I never missed your radio show.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did
you hear that? Hey? Can you bring his buns to me?
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