November 19, 2025 • 38 mins
Former All-Pro safety Kerry Rhodes is in for Kelvin, and he and Rob tell us why LeBron James has to become the Los Angeles Lakers third option for the team to reach their full potential. Plus, author John Harris swings by to discuss his new book, ‘Tomlin: The Soul of a Football Coach’. Finally, the Odd Couple Crew debates musicals in this week’s edition of One’s Gotta Go.
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Odd Couple FSR and subscribe and coming up in about
twenty eight minutes. John Harris, friend of mine, an author
who wrote a book about Mike Tomlin Tomlin the Soul
of a football coach. I want to get some insight
about his you know, man crush or whatever. They have
bromance with Aaron Rodgers, just you know, and that, and
(01:39):
the book just came out in paperback and whatnot. So
we'll talk to John Harris, who has a good feel
for Mike Tomlin and how important it is for him
to win a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Mike. It's been a while. It's been a while.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I'm knowing Mike since I was a rookie going to
the NFL in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
He was actually recruiting me to come play dB for him.
How much money is that for you? I don't know.
Did you see that? Rob?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Me?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You see Carry's like, what did he ask me? How much?
Wonder the other?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I will not die. I will not divulge into that, Rob.
I mean, it's it's it's out there somewhere in the
ETHERI though.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Okay, I'm just saying I'm not you're good as something.
Never do it for free as what Carry says. That's right,
you can't go.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I know your worth, Rob, I understand if they're paying
I'm working. I've always said that, right, I'm working if
they're gonna pay me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Uh rob g.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Lebron James made his uh twenty twenty five NBA day.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Butt it was not a day, but it was more
than Okay, that was better a debut. Ye had his debut.
That's right. Yep, it's bad. I called it all the day,
but yeah, it's a day, bud.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Lebron set the NBA record his twenty third NBA season
came in, started off sluggish, you know, kind of stand
office there, but closed with the flurry. Finished the game
with the double double eleven points, twelve assists utah, six
of them in a three minute stretch. He looked like
the vintage of Lebron there and the Lakers cruise to
a victory. But the big story to come out of
(03:03):
that game was everybody was saying, well, the Lakers got
good chemistry right now, they're kind of rolling along.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
They look really good.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
What's gonna happen when Lebron James comes back into the lineup.
But he's gonna dominate the ball like he always has,
And to his credit, for Night one at least took
a back seat, played the third fiddle willingly and the
Lakers cruise.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That was easy to do.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Okay, let me go first on this robe because he
has he has no choice at this point. He may
be second, but he's not first anymore. This is Luca's team.
His time out even put a bigger stamp on this
being Lucas team Rob.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
He had no choice but the B two.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Now, will he take the back seat to Austin Reeves
that the season goes along, Now, that's gonna be the
real question, right. Austin Reeves doesn't have the credentials that
Lebron has, so he can't really push back on him
if he wants to be that guy.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But for Lebron right now, this is actually the best
situation for him.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
If his ego doesn't get in the way, Rob, he
gets to go in, have fifteen points, eight rebounds, five assists,
and not be tired as the season progresses and actually
have a little energy in the playoffs. If that happened,
So for me, he should take a back seat, and
if his ego doesn't get in the way, I think
this thing could could work out.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You make sense, okay, But whether or not Lebron will
subscribe to that, you don't think he will but he
should be the third option and no matter what, and
if the Lakers remember new ownership, new this is not
the people who's tube recruited you and Magic and Genie Buss. No,
(04:49):
this is not those people anymore. No, Okay, they brought
in Luca. He's twenty five or six, you know, you're
forty five. You know, like like, let's keep it real,
and they should be building for the future as you
go on. And Austin Reeves has more of a chance
(05:11):
of being around with Luca for the next five or
six years than Lebron.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So it should be obvious you.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Don't owe anybody a victory lap sentimental reasons all that,
and once you get into that, you might as well
move on totally. If it should never be about that
Lebron has outstayed.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
His welcome, I agree, period.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I know people think that's hard's Tom Brady outstayed is welcome?
You know, like when you play that long, it becomes
an issue. It just does because people are like, well,
you can't say nothing to him, Yeah, what are you
gonna do If he wants to play, you gotta play him.
How are you gonna tell him to take a back seat,
a third seat? At that, not even just a backseinte
(06:00):
third seed. But if you're serious about winning, serious about
moving the Lakers forward, Lebron represents the past, not the present,
not the future. Who operates like that? You can't live
in the past. A lot of people, dude, it was great.
You see this happen with teams. They don't want to
(06:21):
let people go. I'll give you a perfect example. The Celtics,
the Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert parrishon.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
They didn't trade any of those guys. They weren't.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh no, we get if they would have moved off
of some of those guys at you know what I
mean at the time when they were stars, after they
had already won their few championships, and then replenish and
keep one of those three, they could.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Have done something.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Do you think that's different because they've already had success
in the legacy Because in that same vein, I agree
with you. But in the same vein, like if Dallas
was to move on from Dirk in the years when
he wasn't good, you think it would have been received
the same.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I just think Dallas and them they only won one.
That's and that's what I'm saying, and he won.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Now the Celtics, I think he won three, so you
know what I mean. And yeah, and they held on
to all those guys and they got old and that team,
if you remember from the last championship, I might be
off a year with Larry burn them to the next.
And of course Lambias died and a couple of yes,
So I'm not acting like those things didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
They went twenty years with I want.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Like twenty like twenty years, so it was a long stretch,
a long drought. And that's why Rick Patino will remember
that whole family member. Larry Bird ain't walking through that door,
you know what I mean or whatever, because that's how
bad it was.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
That and ugly. But if I'm the Lakers, I'm just dude,
this is working.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
We're winning. But there's no way Lebron is going to
agree to it. But I think that he should have
no choice. Here's the problem. Who's the coach j Reddick
Lebron's boy, Lebron Lebron's podcast partners.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So you know, I mean, what's the ideal situation?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I mean, obviously I think we're on the same page.
He needs to be like the third option. I agree,
you're the biggest Laker fan going. I mean, that is
what should happen. I just don't believe it will happen
because Lebron's ego.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Is too big. It's the ego that always gets in
the way.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm with you, I think that, I think we all
predicted that he was going to be the good soldier
last night, like.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right right, You're not gonna come in and be like.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And just right.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
The problem comes, if you know, come Christmas time or whatever,
and they had a tougher part of their schedule, take
a couple of losses back to back, which is gonna
happen to.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Every team unless you're O K C. And then what say, because.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Because Lebron James, whether he's forty one, thirty one or
twenty one, has never taken a back seat to anybody,
no matter what was happening. And you could have this,
you know, illusion that he was trying to pass the
keys over to Anthony.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Davis, and then that wasn't worth it.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Never happened, never happened, even though Anthony Davis was the
best player and he had all the numbers, it was
so no, it's Lebron's team. So it's gonna go. He
never wanted to give it to Kyrie in Cleveland. When
he was in Miami, he took it from Dwayne Wade
like his lunch money because so far and this has
been the problem.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And rest in peace, Christmas.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Sorry Chris has said this now going back on the original,
he's not here no more.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He's not with that, you know what I mean. But Chris, I.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Pray for Chris. But Chris had said, you know, you're
one of the odd couple, right, he was saying. The
biggest reason why he never thought that Lebron fully fulfill
this potential want all the championsp that he thinks his
talent probably should have was because he insisted on being
the system everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And a lot of players who could have been even
better didn't always get the new you know, to use
their talent. Chris Boss is a perfect example. Even in Miami,
even though they went to four, Chris Boss wound up
standing on the perimeter, standing out there right like this, dude,
go look at his numbers in Toronto.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And Toronto, am I razy?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah? Absolutely? Look at Kevin Love in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Kevin Love was doing a double double and it was
like twenty and twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It was forty. He was going, he was going. He
was not even close to that when he played Lebron.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, and I mean even later on, like right, like
even the the Russell Westbrooks and all that, Like obviously
their games was falling off. But if you team up
with the Lebron, what do you have to gain? If
you win, it's Lebron's he gets the credit. If you lose,
you're the one getting to blame.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So I always said that, like if you if they win,
Lebron's the goat, and if they lose, your escape.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's how That's how it went.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
And that's what makes nights like last night. I'm not
gonna say fresh. Frustrating is the wrong word. But you
see that he's entirely capable of playing that way. You
see it fitting in because he's so good and he's
so dynamic. He can do whatever you ask him to do.
The problem is is he has to be willing to
set aside his ego to play a certain role, and
so far in twenty three plus years in the NBA,
(11:28):
he hasn't shown a willingness to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
And you gotta remember, Okay, so he gets praised.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now after a while on the shows on people start
talking Lebron's washed. He's the third option, you know what
I mean, Like the Lakers don't need him, like all that.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Then you get in your feeling. What are you talking?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And he said, he proclaimed himself the goat. I say,
you can't be king of the United States. I only
recognize one kid.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Who's your king.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's Burger King. Other than that, I don't recognize Eddie Kings.
Oh my goodness, And that's a bad that's a bad king.
Recognize no, man. I just I hope for his sake,
just for his sake. And like you said it, he's
already outlived. He's outlived as basketball days, he said, like seriously,
like and let these kids eat and play well, and
(12:22):
you do the ancillary things to help your team win.
Be that guy that you wanted other people to be
your whole career.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I'm with you, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Don't see me sticking around too long watching What do
you think he's going to? What is he going? Is
he gonna take a back seat and say that's all
better for the team. No, But the.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Crazy part g he has to, like you know what
I mean, Like I know what you're saying, because I
agree with you, Like the ego is a thing, right,
but he can't We've seen the last couple of years.
He can't do it alone anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But but look if Austin Reeves has a bad week
or you know what I mean, that's all it would take,
is like they lose to a three in a row
and say Austin's shooting. Well, oh, y'all don't need me,
you know what I mean? Oh, y'all what you know
what y'all thought? Y'all thought I was the wash k
I'm gonna go out there and then one night maybe
(13:12):
forces up to be able to score forty points, you know,
and to say he could still do it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You know what he will do.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I think he would actually pull with Kobe though, and
not shuit the ball at all in the whole game,
just to prove a point.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
That was the That was the low point in Kobe,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Like and would you admit that, Oh yeah, that was
that He could his basketball career.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Absolutely he could.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
If he could take that back, he would because that
was so un Kobe like.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Hey, but it worked. They got them Power to Song
and a couple of chips later, but that was playing
chess Nott checkers over here.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, but that was only because they what's his name,
the GM had a deal with the devil in Charlotte.
That was a terrible trade to get his Memphis Jerry West,
Jerry Jerry West. That was like like that was a
wink wing. Jerry West helped the Lakers in that tree.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Who did get who did they give up? Marcasol Mircasot's good.
They gave up nobody. Kwame Brown. That's because he called
you ugly, Rob. You don't like Kwame before that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You will find time out what happened?
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yeah, Rob and Chris were getting ripped on these viral
videos for like the week straight. He called Chris glowstick.
He said, Rob Parker's ugly, Right, that was it. I
remember that you were fine with him when he was
tracking everybody out. Then he came at you, and you're like,
nas the line I crossed the line?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I did?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You're gonna say I'm ugly?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You're good? Rob? All right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Uh, just just eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
We want to hear from you here on the Odd Couple,
and Uh, the question is real simple, do you think
Lebron James will accept being the third option with the
Lakers or not. Willy, he did it last night. It
looked good, it was easy. They scored one hundred and
forty points.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
They rolled.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Well, is this gonna be a problem going forward? We'll
continue that conversation next with you. It is The Odd Couple,
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In about six or seven minutes, John Harris, the author
of the Mike Tomlin book. We'll talk to him and
much more, all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox Carry, we're talking about Lebron. He was able to
just ease in there, not do too much, be the
third option, no problem. The Lakers went big over Utah,
but uh well, he accept being the third option. As
(17:18):
the season goes on, we want to hear from you.
Do you think he will or he won't? All right,
we're gonna go to the phones here. We got Taim
from the at L You on with the Billy tim.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
What a carry?
Speaker 9 (17:31):
Hey, hey carry?
Speaker 10 (17:33):
I appreciate, you know, because they used to have them.
Should do a standers then lasty feelings before It's about
time he started bringing in some quality feelings on the show.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate that.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
No, I'm talking about that George Reister.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
George wrong stuff, right, he was so wrong man.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
But I can tell you exactly when it's going to
break for Lebron.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
You know.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
Michael Jordan's I think the Wizards he avers like twenty.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Points a game with the Wizards.
Speaker 10 (18:06):
You let Lebron James come anywhere below that, but it
looks like he's gonna come below that, and it starts
messing with his goat thing. It will quickly fade away.
He'll be like, nah, Nah, this ain't gonna happen because
I'm already trying to prove to the world and I'm
better than my I Am not going to be less
than what he was scoring like that, You let that
conversation start happening, and that's when it's all war.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You know what, tell them that is the spot on.
That is spot on, and don't forget Yeah, appreciate it.
That scoring average starts to go down. Not That's why,
like I told I told uh Kelvin and christis if
the NBA want to stop that low management and Stephan
all that you put zero's on those games when they're
(18:50):
not healthy. When they're healthy and they don't play, and
you put that in your scoring average, you better believe
they'll play. The reason they don't want to play it
is because they don't want to play ten minutes and
then again.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Score six or eight points. You're scoring average drops.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, So that's why people say, well, why'd you just
play some minutes instead of not playing at all.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's the reason why.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And if you said you get zeros for those games,
people would have a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on five, let's fight. Let's
go to Andre from Massachusetts. You on with the okable man.
How are you? What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:20):
Dre?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
How you doing?
Speaker 12 (19:23):
Thanks for taking the call. Rob, You're one hundred percent right.
We need to put all them zeros across the board
and get the players out there, because Rob, you remember
in the awesome eighties when the players were flying coach
playing those eighty two games, we didn't have all this
talk about load management and what we can't do now
that is playing all these private jets and all we have,
all these luxury accommodations. Now all of a sudden they
(19:43):
can't play. It's ridiculous. They need zeros for those games.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (19:47):
In terms of Lebron James, no, no, no, no, no,
he's not going to be a third fit or no,
we ain't gonna be a third fiddle to somebody undrafted
at in the bracket. Yeah, but we do know he
is uh a svant when it comes to basketball, both
both mentally and then with his capabilities. He can play
complimentary basketball. He's shown their ability to do that. He
(20:08):
did it in Miami, you know, and then they had
to go to him because he was in his prime years.
But he is capable of doing that, and I think
as the season goes on, he will be take that
great role as second to Luca Dontis, who's in his prime,
and give the Lakers a real shot to make noise.
Are they better than OKC? Are they better than Denver?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
No?
Speaker 12 (20:24):
But those two combined together going for Toronto, they can
make noise in the Western Conference.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Thanks taking a call? I like it?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Joy, All right? Are we gonna move on to our
next caller?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
We got?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Let's go. Let's go with Sean from Sacramento. Are you
what's up? Sean?
Speaker 11 (20:39):
Yeah, cousin, Oh, my cousin Kelvy and my brother Vibe
the boy.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
What's really going on with y'all?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Two brothers?
Speaker 13 (20:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Good? What's happening with you?
Speaker 14 (20:51):
Man?
Speaker 11 (20:52):
You know I'm living good Man and Rob I'm over
here checking the comments as a as an unofficial mayor
of I'm going to call a couple of people loud Man, Hollo,
Seeds Sports Google with they handle too long? YouTube couldn't
even keep it on my screen. Crop it eggs all
y'all red x all y'all, Man, y'all so busy putting
your cape on for King James. You're not even hearing
(21:15):
argument the fellas are having right now. They're not saying
whether or not he is great. They're not saying whether
or not he needs to retire. They're saying he's too
great and he thinks too much of himself.
Speaker 12 (21:24):
To ever fall back.
Speaker 11 (21:25):
As a third, I'm over here reading the comments. Rob,
they ain hearing you.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
They just mad at you.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
But what I'm gonna say is this man in reality,
as much as he wants to be that his body
won't allow him anymore. And not only that, but this
is a franchise who.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
No longer belongs to that mom and pop shot running it.
Speaker 11 (21:44):
It's new ownership who no longer values him the same
way the previous owners did. The Bus family and JJ Reddick,
He's got the gig Man hit, a relationship with Lebron
a size he's trying to He's fighting to win right
now because he knows he has to answer to the critics.
Just like King j So everybody hating our aunt and
carries here not your feelings.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
There you go? Are you squeeze in?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
One more?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Real quick? Get one more? Get to uh? An update
in John Harris. We got mor and Weis's coming up
as well. Go goo cool, we got uh. We got
Alan from New Mexico, you know with the couple man,
how are you? What's up?
Speaker 14 (22:19):
Oh? You guys doing? Yes? I love your show and
I just wanted to let you know. You know, I've
kind of got a different take, almost almost the same
as Dre.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
What'd you got?
Speaker 14 (22:30):
It's like, you know, Lebron has since he's been in
the league, he's had to he's had to take on
that role because nobody else that he played with could
actually do anything. And they'd get it, they'd give and
then they just fall off, and then he'd come back
and take over, and he was you know, he's gonna
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be like that this season. Is they started falling off,
is he gonna do the same thing. Is he gonna
come back and be old Lebron and just take over
in the fourth and just do what he does. But
if if his best known mentality just shows, he'll let
the other people get it. That's why he's got so
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many assists. Well and everybody thought he was just a score.
Speaker 15 (23:16):
Yeah, all right, that's fair, allan, Yeah, I mean appreciate
the call. Yeah no, that's what's gonna He's gonna try
to do that. But again his body isn't gonna allow that.
Yeah no, not he can't carry the low. I mean,
he's just it's just not gonna happen. All right, all right,
let's get you caught up with mister Martin Weiss.
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Speaker 2 (23:44):
All right, mister Weiss, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It is the odd couple Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker,
carry Rhodes here on this worship Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio.
Uh well, let's welcome in our next guest. He is
a friend of mine, mister John Harris, author sportswriter extraordinaire,
and he's written the book Tomlin The Soul of a
(24:06):
Football Coach, and it's now out in paperback.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Hey John, say hi to Kerry Rhoades. What's up my man?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Hey, gentlemen, how.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You doing all good? John? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
How's your day?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Appreciate you guys having
me on no doubt.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Tell us the book just came back out and write
in paperback, I should say, tell us a little bit
about the book, how people can get it, and then
we can get a little deeper into Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, you can go.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
You can go to Amazon and pick it up and
go to my website, John Harris Inc. Dot Com, a
lot of Barnes and Noble, all the bookstores. It's available
to go online or go to the stores in person.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
But it's out there.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
It's been out since October twenty Haysten, and I'm excited
about it because it's I know, Rob you had me
on before when I talked about the original the hardback
YEP addition, but this is different. The paperback is an
updated version and it has a really interesting chapter on
actually how Mike Tommlon really really got the job. It
(25:16):
was so much talk about how it happened, how it
didn't happen. Was it because of the Rooney rule? Was
not because of the Ruiney rule? And finally found out
exactly how he got the job. It's pretty pretty interesting.
We can talk about it and break it down and
go from there with it.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah. Well, I mean, it depends on what you want
to talk about. Our people can buy the book. It's
up to you.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, because it has to be an interesting I'll tell
you as somebody you know who covered every Lion's game
for twenty years basically, you know, home and road and
being around. I'll remember Mike Tomlin for only one reason.
When I knew he was going to be a head coach.
I was watching. This was a game I was watched,
(26:01):
and there was the Lions and the Vikings, and he
was the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
H right.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
They gave him so much FaceTime. I could not like.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The camera was on Mike Tomlin almost the entire I
was stunned. I kept saying to myself, wow, you know,
and they were talking about the defense and Mike Thomas,
Mike Tomlin, and that's when I know it was going
to be a head coach.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Yeah, he's very knew a lot of people, a lot
of influential people like Tony Dungee, Brad Childrens who gave
him the opportunity to be a defensive coordinator in Minnesota, obviously,
the Rooney family. He was just on this path.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
You know when he went.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
He was a college and he coached at v m I,
Arkansas State, University of Cincinnati, University of Memphis, and then
Monte Kiffin Lane Kiffin's bad with a defensive coordinator in
Tampa Bay. He knew the Cincinnati head coach and they
went back along many years and recommended him.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
And then he goes to.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Tampa Bay when's the Super Bowl there as the defensive
back coach. Now he's a hot name. Was Minnesota for
one year, like you said, one year, that's it and
then he he interviewed actually before that for the for
the Miami Dolphins head coaching job, and and didn't get it.
Apparently he was as I said in the book, he
(27:22):
was deemed to be too too hip hop and new
hip hop.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
He didn't even come across like he too buttoned up
for me. No, No, at that time was he my
time when the dB coach was cool? He was a
cool because he changed and he changes demeanor. You got
to when you're the head guy, you gotta change a
little bit. But no, John, I want to ask you
what what was the motivating factor behind using this subject?
You know, obviously the subject being in that situation Mike
(27:48):
Tomlin to uh to write a book about it and
really share the story.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Expand on the story, Well, I.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Lived in Pittsburgh ten years. I worked as a commerce
for the Pittsburgh Tribute Review. I covered his first ten years,
So I got to follow that whole process, the hiring process,
you know, going to this winning the Super Bowl his
second year, then going to another Super Bowl two years later.
And so he's just just getting hired at thirty four
(28:17):
an African American coach, black coach hired at thirty four
at that time, two thousand and two thousand and seven,
it was just it was just you know, think back
how long ago that was. He's now in his nineteenth season.
He's the longest tenured head heads coach and professional professional hits,
professional North American sports.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Laugh as you said it, John, That's that's funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
But the only thing is that that brother better win
a playoff game pretty soon. The clock is ticking. Now,
does he he understands that? Doesn't he doesn't he feel that?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (28:53):
Look look at through what he did in the off season,
bringing a forty one year old quarterback, Well, they needed.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
A quarterback, not not a right I mean and Aaron Rodgers.
We get it. He's forty one, but he knows how
to play the position. Yeah. Well, Aaron Rodgers my draft class, right,
that's all. That's all is, John, Go ahead, John, finish John.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
They made a lot of trade, you know, with Miami,
and it just brought a lot of veterans and they
were arming up.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
They were gearing up for this year.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
And Aaron Rodgers was going to be the icing on
the cake. And there are two games over five hundred
right now. Six to four of Baltimore is fast approaching.
It's gonna be interesting to see how it goes down
the stretch. I think they have their defense straightened out
and now they just have to get a little bit
maybe a little bit more consistency with the offense. And
(29:41):
that's in Pittsburgh when I was there.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
I live in Texas now, but there's.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Always been a love hate relationship with Mike common with
the media, with the fans there. Skillers haven't had a
losing season since two thousand and.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Three, so there's just this expectation.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
That, like you said, Rob, they haven't won a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Since two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And the last thing we do want to get to
we're on a one out of time the bromance with
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Where's that? Where's that from?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And I get it, you know, as another coach to
watch somebody and obviously to admire and people for whatever.
You people could dislike Aaron Rodgers whatever for other stuff.
As a football player, and you know this, dude, he's
one of the best players who ever threw the football.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I mean, anybody who said who can't say that isn't
being honest. Yeah for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Well, they go back to the Super Bowl when Green
Bay beat the Steelers, and I think their relationship has
been there ever since. I know there was a game
they played Green Bay a few years ago and he
and Mike were like, no, I'm sorry with the jet
last year and he and Mike they had this special
bond after the game and people.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Were looking at it like what's going on here? So
this is a player he's admired forever.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
And the quarterback situation last year in Pittsburgh was not good.
So Mike Thomas said, Okay, this is what we need
when need stability, need this veteran. I love Aaron Rodgers.
I'm going to get Aaron Rodgers and so here we are.
Now he's coming off an injury. He hurt his wrists
as a broken Risks or some partly broken risks, So
we'll see what happens. He wanted he I think he
(31:13):
felt like Aaron Rodgers was the final piece to this puzzle,
which he said he believed at the beginning of the
year that this is a team that can win championships.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Wow, all right again.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
His name is John Harris. The book is Tomlin. The
Soul of a Football Coach is available. The paperback just
came out. I've known John for a million years, John,
since our days back in the old days in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yes, many many moves ago, John, don't claim that million years.
Don't claim it. John, Thanks for joining us on the
yard couple.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
We appreciate you. Man, appreciate you.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
I man, I appreciate you, guys, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
All right, coming up, you're on the yard couple. Ones
gotta go. You'll like this too, should I should I? Should?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I give it away? Rob g or not, won't give
it away. But you'll like this one because you love
the musical aspect of life. So one's gotta go involving
music without giving it all away. Typepants no, no, no,
tighter pants, that's right, the shorter short and call the
cargo shorts. Right, We'll do that and much more. It
(32:19):
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Carrie Rhoads in for kelvin Washington right here on Fox
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Speaker 13 (32:28):
Stick and stay, especially if you're musically inclined like Kerry
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All right, it's time carry for one's gotta go.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Five crowd?
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Is that what I'm blaming there even number figure it out.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
One's gotta go here on the couple of Fox Sports Trader,
where we discuss something that we just were over at
this point, and the emphasis of this week's topic is,
I don't know if you guys know this.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I'm sure Carry does. Rob don't know it. Wicked Too
is coming out this way? Are you gonna say that?
I'm a wizard of you?
Speaker 16 (33:51):
You aultured? I went to see what's it all Wicked
on Broadway? I saw a fanom of the Opera in Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I'm glad you got that up ro because that's us.
I saw the Lion King four rolls from the.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Front on bro smell the sweat. So because it's coming
out and because of the magic Dragon is so well
traveled too much. This week's one's gotta go hit Broadway musicals.
All right, did a Google search. These are the top
(34:29):
five most successful musicals ever.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
All right, this is easy. Wicked, of course is one
west Side story when you're the way, Ryan King, Lion.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
King, Phantom of the Opera and Hamilton, Oh God, one's
gotta go the entire catalog, all the music gone forever
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
What can I go? You go first, I'm gonna go first.
This is easy. It's easy for me too. Wicked.
Speaker 17 (35:00):
I'm sorry you said how proud you were that you
saw it, and now you're like nine. But if you
put them up against the ones you just gave me
a playoff, I'm sorry. All right, go ahead, Martin?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Are you you go ahead?
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Martin?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What you got Alex?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Are you in?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Where you got Alex? This one's easy. What you got Alex?
Speaker 13 (35:21):
Simple? Not only did they have to bombard us with that,
I guess you could say performance that Rob was luxurious
enough to go to Australia to watch, they decided to
make a terrible movie fandom of the opera No, No, Wicked.
They made were a terrible movie with Ariana Grande. And
then they had this whole like rebuttal thing and like
integral conspiracy about the girl playing the witch. Now there's
(35:43):
a second one. I just all I'm gonna say is
the movie sucked. I watched none of it, so I
can say it sucks.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Saw it.
Speaker 13 (35:50):
I didn't need to see it. It's for example, it's
like people, I hate this statement by this way. It's like, oh,
you can't complain because you didn't vote. No, I can
complain because I didn'tvotecause I don't like I've heard of.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But anyways, what you got, Martin, I'm gonna vote, and
I'm gonna complain.
Speaker 18 (36:05):
You guys are understand your arguments against Wicked, but you're
missing entirely the complete press tour that was rammed down
our throats for Hamilton, which was first factually inaccurate, second
of Ball what are you people doing?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Rapping?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
And Colonial Times?
Speaker 18 (36:20):
And thirdly Lynn Manmoiel, Lynn Manuel, Miranda, where you've been since?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
No, he didn't have to do anything like whenever he
came back to do performances, that's when the prices.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Went up and people wanted to see him do Hamilton,
not I and see Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But I'm just saying, if I had to, it would
be Wicked. Go ahead, carry Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I'm gonna have to say Wicked too. And I hate
that I'm joining in with everybody on this. I'm almost
almost making it a convent so that the movie cloud you.
Because the Broadway musical is incredible.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, the Badway Musical was fine. Hamilton intermission was ready
to leave were Yes, I paid because it was boring.
It was boring. Wow. Yeah, I'm I'm on board with
Wicked to you. I think wicked right right, Hamilton, you
fall asleep in the back, and he.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Does not like.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
He does not like.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
H This one's controversial because I think it's it's really good.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
It's it's what I'm looking at one of these here
we go. You're going against the grain. I'm going against
the grain.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
It is one of the best musicals I've ever I
saw like three times, that's how good it is. The
problem is that the movie is better than the musical.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And what's that? So Lion King gotta go Lion King? No, no, no, no, no,
you yourself. Yeah, we're gonna answer him out, rob g
And I seen, I was. I was in the sixth
row when I saw was when those animals came to
life and the guy it's a guy. But yes, yes,
(37:53):
that was it was incredible. Was it wasn't even it
wasn't animatronics.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It was real.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
The just came up, real people.
Speaker 14 (38:00):
They came to life.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
One peede on my leg.
Speaker 16 (38:02):
It was I'm telling you, I could not believe, like
like the pageantry and and everything.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Wasn't it incredible?
Speaker 9 (38:11):
And you know why?
Speaker 5 (38:11):
It was more incredible for you you had. You were
up two rows in front of Robs. I couldn't see everything.
So that's why I didn't get the same experience you got.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I'm not even I'm not. I was sitting.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Center, four rows from the front, four rows you were
six rob So, yeah, you didn't get there.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
It was it was on Broadway. Yeah, it was unbelievable.
It is unbelievable.
Speaker 18 (38:32):
I'm convinced you didn't pick Hamilton just because you left
New York before it hit Broadway.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
The front of that may be sounding like me, I
don't know. I'm telling you, Martin got a hit piece
on Hamilton. You got to look into this. That just
means Martin doesn't have a ten dollar bill. This actually
happened a couple
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who wrote a book about Mike Tomlin Tomlin the Soul
of a football coach. I want to get some insight
about his you know, man crush or whatever. They have
bromance with Aaron Rodgers, just you know, and that, and
(01:39):
the book just came out in paperback and whatnot. So
we'll talk to John Harris, who has a good feel
for Mike Tomlin and how important it is for him
to win a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Mike. It's been a while. It's been a while.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I'm knowing Mike since I was a rookie going to
the NFL in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
He was actually recruiting me to come play dB for him.
How much money is that for you? I don't know.
Did you see that? Rob?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Me?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You see Carry's like, what did he ask me? How much?
Wonder the other?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I will not die. I will not divulge into that, Rob.
I mean, it's it's it's out there somewhere in the
ETHERI though.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Okay, I'm just saying I'm not you're good as something.
Never do it for free as what Carry says. That's right,
you can't go.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I know your worth, Rob, I understand if they're paying
I'm working. I've always said that, right, I'm working if
they're gonna pay me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Uh rob g.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Lebron James made his uh twenty twenty five NBA day.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Butt it was not a day, but it was more
than Okay, that was better a debut. Ye had his debut.
That's right. Yep, it's bad. I called it all the day,
but yeah, it's a day, bud.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Lebron set the NBA record his twenty third NBA season
came in, started off sluggish, you know, kind of stand
office there, but closed with the flurry. Finished the game
with the double double eleven points, twelve assists utah, six
of them in a three minute stretch. He looked like
the vintage of Lebron there and the Lakers cruise to
a victory. But the big story to come out of
(03:03):
that game was everybody was saying, well, the Lakers got
good chemistry right now, they're kind of rolling along.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
They look really good.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
What's gonna happen when Lebron James comes back into the lineup.
But he's gonna dominate the ball like he always has,
And to his credit, for Night one at least took
a back seat, played the third fiddle willingly and the
Lakers cruise.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That was easy to do.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Okay, let me go first on this robe because he
has he has no choice at this point. He may
be second, but he's not first anymore. This is Luca's team.
His time out even put a bigger stamp on this
being Lucas team Rob.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
He had no choice but the B two.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Now, will he take the back seat to Austin Reeves
that the season goes along, Now, that's gonna be the
real question, right. Austin Reeves doesn't have the credentials that
Lebron has, so he can't really push back on him
if he wants to be that guy.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But for Lebron right now, this is actually the best
situation for him.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
If his ego doesn't get in the way, Rob, he
gets to go in, have fifteen points, eight rebounds, five assists,
and not be tired as the season progresses and actually
have a little energy in the playoffs. If that happened,
So for me, he should take a back seat, and
if his ego doesn't get in the way, I think
this thing could could work out.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You make sense, okay, But whether or not Lebron will
subscribe to that, you don't think he will but he
should be the third option and no matter what, and
if the Lakers remember new ownership, new this is not
the people who's tube recruited you and Magic and Genie Buss. No,
(04:49):
this is not those people anymore. No, Okay, they brought
in Luca. He's twenty five or six, you know, you're
forty five. You know, like like, let's keep it real,
and they should be building for the future as you
go on. And Austin Reeves has more of a chance
(05:11):
of being around with Luca for the next five or
six years than Lebron.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So it should be obvious you.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Don't owe anybody a victory lap sentimental reasons all that,
and once you get into that, you might as well
move on totally. If it should never be about that
Lebron has outstayed.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
His welcome, I agree, period.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I know people think that's hard's Tom Brady outstayed is welcome?
You know, like when you play that long, it becomes
an issue. It just does because people are like, well,
you can't say nothing to him, Yeah, what are you
gonna do If he wants to play, you gotta play him.
How are you gonna tell him to take a back seat,
a third seat? At that, not even just a backseinte
(06:00):
third seed. But if you're serious about winning, serious about
moving the Lakers forward, Lebron represents the past, not the present,
not the future. Who operates like that? You can't live
in the past. A lot of people, dude, it was great.
You see this happen with teams. They don't want to
(06:21):
let people go. I'll give you a perfect example. The Celtics,
the Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert parrishon.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
They didn't trade any of those guys. They weren't.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh no, we get if they would have moved off
of some of those guys at you know what I
mean at the time when they were stars, after they
had already won their few championships, and then replenish and
keep one of those three, they could.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Have done something.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Do you think that's different because they've already had success
in the legacy Because in that same vein, I agree
with you. But in the same vein, like if Dallas
was to move on from Dirk in the years when
he wasn't good, you think it would have been received
the same.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I just think Dallas and them they only won one.
That's and that's what I'm saying, and he won.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Now the Celtics, I think he won three, so you
know what I mean. And yeah, and they held on
to all those guys and they got old and that team,
if you remember from the last championship, I might be
off a year with Larry burn them to the next.
And of course Lambias died and a couple of yes,
So I'm not acting like those things didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
They went twenty years with I want.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Like twenty like twenty years, so it was a long stretch,
a long drought. And that's why Rick Patino will remember
that whole family member. Larry Bird ain't walking through that door,
you know what I mean or whatever, because that's how
bad it was.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
That and ugly. But if I'm the Lakers, I'm just dude,
this is working.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
We're winning. But there's no way Lebron is going to
agree to it. But I think that he should have
no choice. Here's the problem. Who's the coach j Reddick
Lebron's boy, Lebron Lebron's podcast partners.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So you know, I mean, what's the ideal situation?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I mean, obviously I think we're on the same page.
He needs to be like the third option. I agree,
you're the biggest Laker fan going. I mean, that is
what should happen. I just don't believe it will happen
because Lebron's ego.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Is too big. It's the ego that always gets in
the way.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm with you, I think that, I think we all
predicted that he was going to be the good soldier
last night, like.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right right, You're not gonna come in and be like.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And just right.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
The problem comes, if you know, come Christmas time or whatever,
and they had a tougher part of their schedule, take
a couple of losses back to back, which is gonna
happen to.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Every team unless you're O K C. And then what say, because.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Because Lebron James, whether he's forty one, thirty one or
twenty one, has never taken a back seat to anybody,
no matter what was happening. And you could have this,
you know, illusion that he was trying to pass the
keys over to Anthony.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Davis, and then that wasn't worth it.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Never happened, never happened, even though Anthony Davis was the
best player and he had all the numbers, it was
so no, it's Lebron's team. So it's gonna go. He
never wanted to give it to Kyrie in Cleveland. When
he was in Miami, he took it from Dwayne Wade
like his lunch money because so far and this has
been the problem.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And rest in peace, Christmas.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Sorry Chris has said this now going back on the original,
he's not here no more.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He's not with that, you know what I mean. But Chris, I.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Pray for Chris. But Chris had said, you know, you're
one of the odd couple, right, he was saying. The
biggest reason why he never thought that Lebron fully fulfill
this potential want all the championsp that he thinks his
talent probably should have was because he insisted on being
the system everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And a lot of players who could have been even
better didn't always get the new you know, to use
their talent. Chris Boss is a perfect example. Even in Miami,
even though they went to four, Chris Boss wound up
standing on the perimeter, standing out there right like this, dude,
go look at his numbers in Toronto.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And Toronto, am I razy?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah? Absolutely? Look at Kevin Love in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Kevin Love was doing a double double and it was
like twenty and twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It was forty. He was going, he was going. He
was not even close to that when he played Lebron.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, and I mean even later on, like right, like
even the the Russell Westbrooks and all that, Like obviously
their games was falling off. But if you team up
with the Lebron, what do you have to gain? If
you win, it's Lebron's he gets the credit. If you lose,
you're the one getting to blame.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So I always said that, like if you if they win,
Lebron's the goat, and if they lose, your escape.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's how That's how it went.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
And that's what makes nights like last night. I'm not
gonna say fresh. Frustrating is the wrong word. But you
see that he's entirely capable of playing that way. You
see it fitting in because he's so good and he's
so dynamic. He can do whatever you ask him to do.
The problem is is he has to be willing to
set aside his ego to play a certain role, and
so far in twenty three plus years in the NBA,
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he hasn't shown a willingness to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
And you gotta remember, Okay, so he gets praised.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now after a while on the shows on people start
talking Lebron's washed. He's the third option, you know what
I mean, Like the Lakers don't need him, like all that.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Then you get in your feeling. What are you talking?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And he said, he proclaimed himself the goat. I say,
you can't be king of the United States. I only
recognize one kid.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Who's your king.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's Burger King. Other than that, I don't recognize Eddie Kings.
Oh my goodness, And that's a bad that's a bad king.
Recognize no, man. I just I hope for his sake,
just for his sake. And like you said it, he's
already outlived. He's outlived as basketball days, he said, like seriously,
like and let these kids eat and play well, and
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you do the ancillary things to help your team win.
Be that guy that you wanted other people to be
your whole career.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I'm with you, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Don't see me sticking around too long watching What do
you think he's going to? What is he going? Is
he gonna take a back seat and say that's all
better for the team. No, But the.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Crazy part g he has to, like you know what
I mean, Like I know what you're saying, because I
agree with you, Like the ego is a thing, right,
but he can't We've seen the last couple of years.
He can't do it alone anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But but look if Austin Reeves has a bad week
or you know what I mean, that's all it would take,
is like they lose to a three in a row
and say Austin's shooting. Well, oh, y'all don't need me,
you know what I mean? Oh, y'all what you know
what y'all thought? Y'all thought I was the wash k
I'm gonna go out there and then one night maybe
(13:12):
forces up to be able to score forty points, you know,
and to say he could still do it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You know what he will do.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I think he would actually pull with Kobe though, and
not shuit the ball at all in the whole game,
just to prove a point.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
That was the That was the low point in Kobe,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Like and would you admit that, Oh yeah, that was
that He could his basketball career.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Absolutely he could.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
If he could take that back, he would because that
was so un Kobe like.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Hey, but it worked. They got them Power to Song
and a couple of chips later, but that was playing
chess Nott checkers over here.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, but that was only because they what's his name,
the GM had a deal with the devil in Charlotte.
That was a terrible trade to get his Memphis Jerry West,
Jerry Jerry West. That was like like that was a
wink wing. Jerry West helped the Lakers in that tree.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Who did get who did they give up? Marcasol Mircasot's good.
They gave up nobody. Kwame Brown. That's because he called
you ugly, Rob. You don't like Kwame before that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You will find time out what happened?
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yeah, Rob and Chris were getting ripped on these viral
videos for like the week straight. He called Chris glowstick.
He said, Rob Parker's ugly, Right, that was it. I
remember that you were fine with him when he was
tracking everybody out. Then he came at you, and you're like,
nas the line I crossed the line?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I did?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You're gonna say I'm ugly?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You're good? Rob? All right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Uh, just just eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
We want to hear from you here on the Odd Couple,
and Uh, the question is real simple, do you think
Lebron James will accept being the third option with the
Lakers or not. Willy, he did it last night. It
looked good, it was easy. They scored one hundred and
forty points.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
They rolled.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Well, is this gonna be a problem going forward? We'll
continue that conversation next with you. It is The Odd Couple,
Rob Parker, Kerry Rhodes in with Kelvin Washington right here
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In about six or seven minutes, John Harris, the author
of the Mike Tomlin book. We'll talk to him and
much more, all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox Carry, we're talking about Lebron. He was able to
just ease in there, not do too much, be the
third option, no problem. The Lakers went big over Utah,
but uh well, he accept being the third option. As
(17:18):
the season goes on, we want to hear from you.
Do you think he will or he won't? All right,
we're gonna go to the phones here. We got Taim
from the at L You on with the Billy tim.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
What a carry?
Speaker 9 (17:31):
Hey, hey carry?
Speaker 10 (17:33):
I appreciate, you know, because they used to have them.
Should do a standers then lasty feelings before It's about
time he started bringing in some quality feelings on the show.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate that.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
No, I'm talking about that George Reister.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
George wrong stuff, right, he was so wrong man.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
But I can tell you exactly when it's going to
break for Lebron.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
You know.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
Michael Jordan's I think the Wizards he avers like twenty.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Points a game with the Wizards.
Speaker 10 (18:06):
You let Lebron James come anywhere below that, but it
looks like he's gonna come below that, and it starts
messing with his goat thing. It will quickly fade away.
He'll be like, nah, Nah, this ain't gonna happen because
I'm already trying to prove to the world and I'm
better than my I Am not going to be less
than what he was scoring like that, You let that
conversation start happening, and that's when it's all war.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You know what, tell them that is the spot on.
That is spot on, and don't forget Yeah, appreciate it.
That scoring average starts to go down. Not That's why,
like I told I told uh Kelvin and christis if
the NBA want to stop that low management and Stephan
all that you put zero's on those games when they're
(18:50):
not healthy. When they're healthy and they don't play, and
you put that in your scoring average, you better believe
they'll play. The reason they don't want to play it
is because they don't want to play ten minutes and
then again.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Score six or eight points. You're scoring average drops.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, So that's why people say, well, why'd you just
play some minutes instead of not playing at all.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's the reason why.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And if you said you get zeros for those games,
people would have a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on five, let's fight. Let's
go to Andre from Massachusetts. You on with the okable man.
How are you? What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:20):
Dre?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
How you doing?
Speaker 12 (19:23):
Thanks for taking the call. Rob, You're one hundred percent right.
We need to put all them zeros across the board
and get the players out there, because Rob, you remember
in the awesome eighties when the players were flying coach
playing those eighty two games, we didn't have all this
talk about load management and what we can't do now
that is playing all these private jets and all we have,
all these luxury accommodations. Now all of a sudden they
(19:43):
can't play. It's ridiculous. They need zeros for those games.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (19:47):
In terms of Lebron James, no, no, no, no, no,
he's not going to be a third fit or no,
we ain't gonna be a third fiddle to somebody undrafted
at in the bracket. Yeah, but we do know he
is uh a svant when it comes to basketball, both
both mentally and then with his capabilities. He can play
complimentary basketball. He's shown their ability to do that. He
(20:08):
did it in Miami, you know, and then they had
to go to him because he was in his prime years.
But he is capable of doing that, and I think
as the season goes on, he will be take that
great role as second to Luca Dontis, who's in his prime,
and give the Lakers a real shot to make noise.
Are they better than OKC? Are they better than Denver?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
No?
Speaker 12 (20:24):
But those two combined together going for Toronto, they can
make noise in the Western Conference.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Thanks taking a call? I like it?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Joy, All right? Are we gonna move on to our
next caller?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
We got?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Let's go. Let's go with Sean from Sacramento. Are you
what's up? Sean?
Speaker 11 (20:39):
Yeah, cousin, Oh, my cousin Kelvy and my brother Vibe
the boy.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
What's really going on with y'all?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Two brothers?
Speaker 13 (20:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Good? What's happening with you?
Speaker 14 (20:51):
Man?
Speaker 11 (20:52):
You know I'm living good Man and Rob I'm over
here checking the comments as a as an unofficial mayor
of I'm going to call a couple of people loud Man, Hollo,
Seeds Sports Google with they handle too long? YouTube couldn't
even keep it on my screen. Crop it eggs all
y'all red x all y'all, Man, y'all so busy putting
your cape on for King James. You're not even hearing
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argument the fellas are having right now. They're not saying
whether or not he is great. They're not saying whether
or not he needs to retire. They're saying he's too
great and he thinks too much of himself.
Speaker 12 (21:24):
To ever fall back.
Speaker 11 (21:25):
As a third, I'm over here reading the comments. Rob,
they ain hearing you.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
They just mad at you.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
But what I'm gonna say is this man in reality,
as much as he wants to be that his body
won't allow him anymore. And not only that, but this
is a franchise who.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
No longer belongs to that mom and pop shot running it.
Speaker 11 (21:44):
It's new ownership who no longer values him the same
way the previous owners did. The Bus family and JJ Reddick,
He's got the gig Man hit, a relationship with Lebron
a size he's trying to He's fighting to win right
now because he knows he has to answer to the critics.
Just like King j So everybody hating our aunt and
carries here not your feelings.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
There you go? Are you squeeze in?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
One more?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Real quick? Get one more? Get to uh? An update
in John Harris. We got mor and Weis's coming up
as well. Go goo cool, we got uh. We got
Alan from New Mexico, you know with the couple man,
how are you? What's up?
Speaker 14 (22:19):
Oh? You guys doing? Yes? I love your show and
I just wanted to let you know. You know, I've
kind of got a different take, almost almost the same
as Dre.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
What'd you got?
Speaker 14 (22:30):
It's like, you know, Lebron has since he's been in
the league, he's had to he's had to take on
that role because nobody else that he played with could
actually do anything. And they'd get it, they'd give and
then they just fall off, and then he'd come back
and take over, and he was you know, he's gonna
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be like that this season. Is they started falling off,
is he gonna do the same thing. Is he gonna
come back and be old Lebron and just take over
in the fourth and just do what he does. But
if if his best known mentality just shows, he'll let
the other people get it. That's why he's got so
(23:12):
many assists. Well and everybody thought he was just a score.
Speaker 15 (23:16):
Yeah, all right, that's fair, allan, Yeah, I mean appreciate
the call. Yeah no, that's what's gonna He's gonna try
to do that. But again his body isn't gonna allow that.
Yeah no, not he can't carry the low. I mean,
he's just it's just not gonna happen. All right, all right,
let's get you caught up with mister Martin Weiss.
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Speaker 2 (23:44):
All right, mister Weiss, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It is the odd couple Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker,
carry Rhodes here on this worship Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio.
Uh well, let's welcome in our next guest. He is
a friend of mine, mister John Harris, author sportswriter extraordinaire,
and he's written the book Tomlin The Soul of a
(24:06):
Football Coach, and it's now out in paperback.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Hey John, say hi to Kerry Rhoades. What's up my man?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Hey, gentlemen, how.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You doing all good? John? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
How's your day?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Appreciate you guys having
me on no doubt.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Tell us the book just came back out and write
in paperback, I should say, tell us a little bit
about the book, how people can get it, and then
we can get a little deeper into Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, you can go.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
You can go to Amazon and pick it up and
go to my website, John Harris Inc. Dot Com, a
lot of Barnes and Noble, all the bookstores. It's available
to go online or go to the stores in person.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
But it's out there.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
It's been out since October twenty Haysten, and I'm excited
about it because it's I know, Rob you had me
on before when I talked about the original the hardback
YEP addition, but this is different. The paperback is an
updated version and it has a really interesting chapter on
actually how Mike Tommlon really really got the job. It
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was so much talk about how it happened, how it
didn't happen. Was it because of the Rooney rule? Was
not because of the Ruiney rule? And finally found out
exactly how he got the job. It's pretty pretty interesting.
We can talk about it and break it down and
go from there with it.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah. Well, I mean, it depends on what you want
to talk about. Our people can buy the book. It's
up to you.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, because it has to be an interesting I'll tell
you as somebody you know who covered every Lion's game
for twenty years basically, you know, home and road and
being around. I'll remember Mike Tomlin for only one reason.
When I knew he was going to be a head coach.
I was watching. This was a game I was watched,
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and there was the Lions and the Vikings, and he
was the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
H right.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
They gave him so much FaceTime. I could not like.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The camera was on Mike Tomlin almost the entire I
was stunned. I kept saying to myself, wow, you know,
and they were talking about the defense and Mike Thomas,
Mike Tomlin, and that's when I know it was going
to be a head coach.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Yeah, he's very knew a lot of people, a lot
of influential people like Tony Dungee, Brad Childrens who gave
him the opportunity to be a defensive coordinator in Minnesota, obviously,
the Rooney family. He was just on this path.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
You know when he went.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
He was a college and he coached at v m I,
Arkansas State, University of Cincinnati, University of Memphis, and then
Monte Kiffin Lane Kiffin's bad with a defensive coordinator in
Tampa Bay. He knew the Cincinnati head coach and they
went back along many years and recommended him.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
And then he goes to.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Tampa Bay when's the Super Bowl there as the defensive
back coach. Now he's a hot name. Was Minnesota for
one year, like you said, one year, that's it and
then he he interviewed actually before that for the for
the Miami Dolphins head coaching job, and and didn't get it.
Apparently he was as I said in the book, he
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was deemed to be too too hip hop and new
hip hop.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
He didn't even come across like he too buttoned up
for me. No, No, at that time was he my
time when the dB coach was cool? He was a
cool because he changed and he changes demeanor. You got
to when you're the head guy, you gotta change a
little bit. But no, John, I want to ask you
what what was the motivating factor behind using this subject?
You know, obviously the subject being in that situation Mike
(27:48):
Tomlin to uh to write a book about it and
really share the story.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Expand on the story, Well, I.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Lived in Pittsburgh ten years. I worked as a commerce
for the Pittsburgh Tribute Review. I covered his first ten years,
So I got to follow that whole process, the hiring process,
you know, going to this winning the Super Bowl his
second year, then going to another Super Bowl two years later.
And so he's just just getting hired at thirty four
(28:17):
an African American coach, black coach hired at thirty four
at that time, two thousand and two thousand and seven,
it was just it was just you know, think back
how long ago that was. He's now in his nineteenth season.
He's the longest tenured head heads coach and professional professional hits,
professional North American sports.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Laugh as you said it, John, That's that's funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
But the only thing is that that brother better win
a playoff game pretty soon. The clock is ticking. Now,
does he he understands that? Doesn't he doesn't he feel that?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (28:53):
Look look at through what he did in the off season,
bringing a forty one year old quarterback, Well, they needed.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
A quarterback, not not a right I mean and Aaron Rodgers.
We get it. He's forty one, but he knows how
to play the position. Yeah. Well, Aaron Rodgers my draft class, right,
that's all. That's all is, John, Go ahead, John, finish John.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
They made a lot of trade, you know, with Miami,
and it just brought a lot of veterans and they
were arming up.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
They were gearing up for this year.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
And Aaron Rodgers was going to be the icing on
the cake. And there are two games over five hundred
right now. Six to four of Baltimore is fast approaching.
It's gonna be interesting to see how it goes down
the stretch. I think they have their defense straightened out
and now they just have to get a little bit
maybe a little bit more consistency with the offense. And
(29:41):
that's in Pittsburgh when I was there.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
I live in Texas now, but there's.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Always been a love hate relationship with Mike common with
the media, with the fans there. Skillers haven't had a
losing season since two thousand and.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Three, so there's just this expectation.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
That, like you said, Rob, they haven't won a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Since two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And the last thing we do want to get to
we're on a one out of time the bromance with
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Where's that? Where's that from?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And I get it, you know, as another coach to
watch somebody and obviously to admire and people for whatever.
You people could dislike Aaron Rodgers whatever for other stuff.
As a football player, and you know this, dude, he's
one of the best players who ever threw the football.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I mean, anybody who said who can't say that isn't
being honest. Yeah for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Well, they go back to the Super Bowl when Green
Bay beat the Steelers, and I think their relationship has
been there ever since. I know there was a game
they played Green Bay a few years ago and he
and Mike were like, no, I'm sorry with the jet
last year and he and Mike they had this special
bond after the game and people.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Were looking at it like what's going on here? So
this is a player he's admired forever.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
And the quarterback situation last year in Pittsburgh was not good.
So Mike Thomas said, Okay, this is what we need
when need stability, need this veteran. I love Aaron Rodgers.
I'm going to get Aaron Rodgers and so here we are.
Now he's coming off an injury. He hurt his wrists
as a broken Risks or some partly broken risks, So
we'll see what happens. He wanted he I think he
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felt like Aaron Rodgers was the final piece to this puzzle,
which he said he believed at the beginning of the
year that this is a team that can win championships.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Wow, all right again.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
His name is John Harris. The book is Tomlin. The
Soul of a Football Coach is available. The paperback just
came out. I've known John for a million years, John,
since our days back in the old days in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yes, many many moves ago, John, don't claim that million years.
Don't claim it. John, Thanks for joining us on the
yard couple.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
We appreciate you. Man, appreciate you.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
I man, I appreciate you, guys, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
All right, coming up, you're on the yard couple. Ones
gotta go. You'll like this too, should I should I? Should?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I give it away? Rob g or not, won't give
it away. But you'll like this one because you love
the musical aspect of life. So one's gotta go involving
music without giving it all away. Typepants no, no, no,
tighter pants, that's right, the shorter short and call the
cargo shorts. Right, We'll do that and much more. It
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Carrie Rhoads in for kelvin Washington right here on Fox
Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (32:50):
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All right, it's time carry for one's gotta go.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Five crowd?
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Is that what I'm blaming there even number figure it out.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
One's gotta go here on the couple of Fox Sports Trader,
where we discuss something that we just were over at
this point, and the emphasis of this week's topic is,
I don't know if you guys know this.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I'm sure Carry does. Rob don't know it. Wicked Too
is coming out this way? Are you gonna say that?
I'm a wizard of you?
Speaker 16 (33:51):
You aultured? I went to see what's it all Wicked
on Broadway? I saw a fanom of the Opera in Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I'm glad you got that up ro because that's us.
I saw the Lion King four rolls from the.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Front on bro smell the sweat. So because it's coming
out and because of the magic Dragon is so well
traveled too much. This week's one's gotta go hit Broadway musicals.
All right, did a Google search. These are the top
(34:29):
five most successful musicals ever.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
All right, this is easy. Wicked, of course is one
west Side story when you're the way, Ryan King, Lion.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
King, Phantom of the Opera and Hamilton, Oh God, one's
gotta go the entire catalog, all the music gone forever
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
What can I go? You go first, I'm gonna go first.
This is easy. It's easy for me too. Wicked.
Speaker 17 (35:00):
I'm sorry you said how proud you were that you
saw it, and now you're like nine. But if you
put them up against the ones you just gave me
a playoff, I'm sorry. All right, go ahead, Martin?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Are you you go ahead?
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Martin?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What you got Alex?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Are you in?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Where you got Alex? This one's easy. What you got Alex?
Speaker 13 (35:21):
Simple? Not only did they have to bombard us with that,
I guess you could say performance that Rob was luxurious
enough to go to Australia to watch, they decided to
make a terrible movie fandom of the opera No, No, Wicked.
They made were a terrible movie with Ariana Grande. And
then they had this whole like rebuttal thing and like
integral conspiracy about the girl playing the witch. Now there's
(35:43):
a second one. I just all I'm gonna say is
the movie sucked. I watched none of it, so I
can say it sucks.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Saw it.
Speaker 13 (35:50):
I didn't need to see it. It's for example, it's
like people, I hate this statement by this way. It's like, oh,
you can't complain because you didn't vote. No, I can
complain because I didn'tvotecause I don't like I've heard of.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But anyways, what you got, Martin, I'm gonna vote, and
I'm gonna complain.
Speaker 18 (36:05):
You guys are understand your arguments against Wicked, but you're
missing entirely the complete press tour that was rammed down
our throats for Hamilton, which was first factually inaccurate, second
of Ball what are you people doing?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Rapping?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
And Colonial Times?
Speaker 18 (36:20):
And thirdly Lynn Manmoiel, Lynn Manuel, Miranda, where you've been since?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
No, he didn't have to do anything like whenever he
came back to do performances, that's when the prices.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Went up and people wanted to see him do Hamilton,
not I and see Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But I'm just saying, if I had to, it would
be Wicked. Go ahead, carry Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I'm gonna have to say Wicked too. And I hate
that I'm joining in with everybody on this. I'm almost
almost making it a convent so that the movie cloud you.
Because the Broadway musical is incredible.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, the Badway Musical was fine. Hamilton intermission was ready
to leave were Yes, I paid because it was boring.
It was boring. Wow. Yeah, I'm I'm on board with
Wicked to you. I think wicked right right, Hamilton, you
fall asleep in the back, and he.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Does not like.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
He does not like.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
H This one's controversial because I think it's it's really good.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
It's it's what I'm looking at one of these here
we go. You're going against the grain. I'm going against
the grain.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
It is one of the best musicals I've ever I
saw like three times, that's how good it is. The
problem is that the movie is better than the musical.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And what's that? So Lion King gotta go Lion King? No, no, no, no, no,
you yourself. Yeah, we're gonna answer him out, rob g
And I seen, I was. I was in the sixth
row when I saw was when those animals came to
life and the guy it's a guy. But yes, yes,
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that was it was incredible. Was it wasn't even it
wasn't animatronics.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It was real.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
The just came up, real people.
Speaker 14 (38:00):
They came to life.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
One peede on my leg.
Speaker 16 (38:02):
It was I'm telling you, I could not believe, like
like the pageantry and and everything.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Wasn't it incredible?
Speaker 9 (38:11):
And you know why?
Speaker 5 (38:11):
It was more incredible for you you had. You were
up two rows in front of Robs. I couldn't see everything.
So that's why I didn't get the same experience you got.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I'm not even I'm not. I was sitting.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Center, four rows from the front, four rows you were
six rob So, yeah, you didn't get there.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
It was it was on Broadway. Yeah, it was unbelievable.
It is unbelievable.
Speaker 18 (38:32):
I'm convinced you didn't pick Hamilton just because you left
New York before it hit Broadway.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
The front of that may be sounding like me, I
don't know. I'm telling you, Martin got a hit piece
on Hamilton. You got to look into this. That just
means Martin doesn't have a ten dollar bill. This actually
happened a couple
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