Andy Furman and Geoff Schwartz Talk Top NFL Headlines & Much More!

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I've heard it for years. Played in the National Football
League with five teams, the Panthers, the Vikings, the Chiefs,
the Giants, and the Lions. The one, the only Jeff Schwartz. Jeff,
it's a pleasure to be with you. How are you fantastic?

(00:45):
I am glad to be here. Um, yeah, Matt's first
time working together. It'll be a lot of fun today. Yeah.
I hope it's not the last, you know, I mean,
just we move on. Everything to be great and I
do want to talk to you, I said, the pro
is the final word. You're the pro. I want to
talk a little bit about the Super Bowl. Your perspective
of the Super Bowl. I was a Philadelphia guy all
the way. I thought they had a better team. I

(01:06):
thought the line play was better. And then I'm watching
this game. I mean, it's unbelievable how disciplined that Chief's
offensive line was. The offensive line had only one penalty,
which basically was a false start by left tackle Orlando Brown,
and that was late in the second court. They dominated
that line play. How surprised were you with that? Well,
wasn't that surprised. It's okay leading up to the you know,

(01:29):
the Super Bowl at the way we talked about the game, right,
you're absolutely the Eagles offen defensive lines fantastic. But the
Chiefs have two all pros on their offensive line. Their
left guard and center are all pros. Right, The right guard,
Trey Smith is a dominating forces the second year player.
Their tackles, Orlando Brown and Andrew Wiley are their quote

(01:50):
unquote weakest point of their offensive line. But like, if
you like like Andrew Wiley, for example, is the right tackle.
If you have if Andrew Wiley is your worst offensive winneman,
you're doing pretty was an offensive line right like you,
he'd be the best offensive lineman on many offensive lines
in the NFL. And I think they took it personally
all week hearing that they weren't as good as the Eagles. Now,

(02:11):
what what makes Andy Reid and Andy Heckt the offensive
line coach for Kansas City really really special? Their jobs
is designing a game plan to help their offensive line.
And and so this all is connected right the way
that the Andy Reid calls a game, the way that
it's the game plan is designed. All the coaches help
out right, and we'll talk about bim in a few

(02:32):
minutes here. They all kind of help out with the
game plan. It's all. It's all done with an I
towards maximizing everyone's job, right, whether it's padl homes, whether
it's a wide receivers, where the offensive line and the
way they designed the game plan make sure that the
offensive line is not put into too much of harm's way.

(02:53):
Make sure that it's very important. Now if you win
first and second down, you stay out a third and
long right, that she's only an eight third down on
is all game. And only a couple of those were
thirty long and those thirting lungs. Guess what the Eagles
pressure mahomes because they're really good. And Russian pastor on
third and twelve. Well, if you stay out as opportunities,
then you don't have to worry about the Eagles Russian

(03:15):
pastor on third and twelve. So all this played a
role in how the Chiefs were abill score a bunch
of points. They scored more than a point of minute.
They had the ball I think for twenty eight minutes
and scored thirty What they scored what twenty thirty one
points on on offense? Right, so thirty one minutes on offense.
Pretty good. You know you mentioned the offensive line of

(03:35):
Kansas City. On the offensive line coach, you're an offensive lineman. Okay,
is it the skill set that the offensive lineman has
or can that skill set be developed by a better
offensive line coach? I mean, if you have the skill
set basically there, and honestly, you know, it's kind of
a slap on the face because that position is not
called the skill position. And that's kind of right. It's not,

(03:58):
and I think it really is. Well, there's so many
things to go into it, but yeah, look, a good
offensive line coach and the and the two that we
saw coaching on Sunday, we were are are two of
the best, right and Jeff stalin Nagles off it's a
line coach. All five of those Eagles offensive linemen were
drafted right, including a left tackle and Jordan Milatta who
had never played football before. He was drafted out of

(04:19):
out of out of Australia, right it never played football before, never,
and then he turns into being, you know, one of
the better left tackles and and all the and all
of the NFL. So um, you know, it's important to
draft offensive linemen that fit what you want to do.
So I played with Andy x. I know Andy well
my brother Putty Kansas City for for for five years.

(04:41):
And he wants certain things to the offensive lineman. He
wants the offensive lineman to be kind of, especially in past,
actually kind of very attacking. He wants you to attack
a pass, but actually not not kind of back up
an attack. So he wants guys that had had that
skill set to kind of go after you. Right. So
it's like Tray Smith for example, Creed hunhree, Right, guys
he just drafted. That's the way they play. It's like
it's what they it's what they do well. And so

(05:04):
Orlando Brown is big and wide, hard and hard to
get by. So the way that he wants guys to
to pass that Orlando, but are gonna fits that mold.
And so making sure that you have players that fit
what you wanna do is very important and Eagles as well,
right the way, the way that Jeff Stoutland, the way
he coaches and teaches and whatnot, So it all plays
a role. Not everyone can do that. And I think

(05:25):
also too is you know, less practice time. Now you
have to you have to adapt the way you coach.
And some coaches are better adapted adapting to less practice time.
Figure out what's important to teach what's not. And it's
impressive to see the growth of especially on the Eagles office.
All drafted. All eight guys that Drey that they dress

(05:45):
for game day are drafted players. They the first round
draft picker Andre Dillard who doesn't even play for them.
That's how much depth they have on their offensive line. UM,
and every team in the NFL drive for that. It's
hard to do, UM, but it's us of that. We
got you know, the the you know, two of the
of the five best offensive lines, uh in the Super Bowl. Yeah,

(06:06):
it amazes me because as soon as the game ended,
they're they're basically saying that Patrick Mahomes is the goat.
I want to put the brakes on that just for
a little bit. I mean, the body of work is there,
but I think it's gonna be over a longer period
of time. Agreed. Yeah, Look, I am I'm very hesitant
to give out this like goat status and dynasty status.
Like to me, I'm a Chiefs fan, right, Like to me,

(06:28):
it's not a dynasty yet, right, you you only want
two super Bowls. If you look at the history of
dynasty's in the NFL, you know it's three super Bowls
in five years. It's you know, three super Bowls in
seven years, four super Bowls in eighty eight, nine, ten years.
So to me, it's it's more right they need one
more super Bowl and we're there if Mahomes wins and
one more super Bowl when we're MVP the next two years.

(06:48):
You know that. I think we're talking that we're in
that in that stratosphere. No one's catching Tom Brady. People
will realize this about the Patriot, It's it's Tom Brady
had two separate dynasties basically, right, and he had the
early two thousand's right, they won three Super Bowls in
four years and two thousand one two four. Then he
didn't win again from two thousand four to they're only

(07:09):
putting two super Bowls in that time, right, They lost
twice the Giants and then they won fourteen sixteen eighteen,
So he had two separate It's hard to win in
the NFL. It's hard to be this long lasting dynasty,
and for he kind of ruined it for the rest
of us. Like, what the Chiefs are doing is the
closest we've had to a dinocese since since Tom Brady

(07:31):
basically left the Patriots. But to me, they're not there
yet unless they win one more Super Bowl, and I
think they will with Vandyreen stays for another three or
four years. You bring up something very interesting because you
say it's hard to win. Now, that's a very difficult
thing to tell fans. I live in the Cincinnati area,
and as soon as the Bengals went to the Super
Bowl a year ago and everybody said it was going
to be a dynasty, and I said, wait a minute,

(07:52):
stuff For a second, injuries are a fact they're you know,
free agencies, a fact that they just there are too
many things going into that. And now you took about
a guy like Travis Kelsey saying that you know we're
gonna be back. It's it's so hard. Do players realize
how difficult it really is to continue to win it? Well,
when the Chiefs have been a five straight at championship games,

(08:12):
that they're a little different, right, because they said, the
expectation now, right is this, and so I understand why
they feel that way, right, But my my rookie in
the NFL is on the Panthers. I was on practice squads.
I wasn't I wasn't actually playing in the games. But
we were the two seeds. The Giants were the one seed.
I believe that year we were the two seed. And

(08:34):
Tom Coffin, by the ways, always said that two eight
team was his best team, even though that team did
not win the Super Bowl. I think they were upset
by the Eagles in the Division Round that year. And
so we get Arizona. Arizona comes to to Charlotte in
the Division A round. We're off the first weekend of
the year. Its is back when six teams, two boys.
We go up seven nothing. I remember we go up
seven nothing on our first drive. I'm like, oh, this

(08:55):
is awesome. Right, the SAME's rocking. And then Arizona whoops,
are butt right? The Longe thow six interceptions and we
gotta we gotta butt skicked. And then Arizona eventually loses
the Seelers in Super Bowl and I think to myself, like, man,
this is awesome. Two seeds, I mean the playoffs every year,
so this is great. And two years later we're two
or fourteen, right like it? It goes. You never sustained success.

(09:21):
It's hard. But if you're the Chiefs, you've been a
five straight at championship games, all five you've hosted. By
the way, you get to play a road playoff game
under Pat Mahomes. I understand that they believe it's easy
now easy right quote. I mean they put the work
in right, you play each week, but they think it's
easy because they've it has they've been doing it each year.

(09:42):
It's an expectation. Now. You know, they play all season,
all season for the playoffs. No one else does that
in the NFL, right now, right, like no one else.
You grind to make the playoffs and then kind of
figure it out. The Chiefs basically at times that seen
this althor they kind of just like float through the
regular season, right, they just kind of get by through

(10:04):
the regular season to get to the playoffs because they
know that that's when it matters for them. And but
but who tells them that is that? No, that's not
really told. I think it's just no, it's just felt.
It's it's felt like, we know what we can do,
we know the amount of uh, we know the work
we need to put in. And they do work any reads,

(10:24):
put them through working training camp, and we know what
we gotta do to win each week, and let's do
that and then let's get ready for the postseason. And
that's kind of the way that they approach things. You know,
every team says that. Of course every year, the first
guys were preparing to win a Super Bowl. Well, if
you're a Chiefs fan, like if you if you so,
here's the thing. If you show up, it's not because

(10:45):
you know, I was. I went to New York play
for Coffin after the Joints won the Super Bowls and
when Conflin says, you know, this is our planning with
the Super Bowl, Like okay, cool, you've won before. I
believe you right, Like, I'm in. I buy in. So
if you're if you're obviously, if you're a returning Chief
like I get it. I buy in. But if you're
Juju Smith Schuster, if you're MVS, if you're in Cadarius Tony,

(11:06):
if you're Justin Reid, or you're one of the rookies
that had to play a lot this year, and Andy
Reid says, guys, here's our path the super Bowl. You're like,
god it coach bought in. I'm in because it works.
I've seen you do it before. And so you get
this immediate buying right from from everyone because it's worked everyone.
It works, so that that kind of just I think

(11:27):
leads itself to just players playing freer and more confidently
even early in the season because it works. And you
have Pat Mahomes that also makes everything. And I think
when the Chiefs play other ties is an intimidation factor.
Yeah yeah, but you also get everyone's best game too,
so you gotta get both things true. Like I mean,
I think, isn't it stilly the most the funniest outcome

(11:49):
from from the season As the Colts beat the Chiefs
and like we can read this year. Um like that.
You know, you get like these you like these games.
You're like, uh, um, so you know the Texans to
the Chiefs over time, right, Um, Yet these games where
you're like, yeah that really happened, um to get you
get everyone's best game. Because I think the Chiefs of

(12:10):
times and I you know, I'm I'm a Chiefs fan.
I watched all their games. They kind of just bs
too much of times for my liking. But they were
Super Bowl, so I'm not one to complain about that.
They do a lot of talking and chirping, but you
know what, they back it up. That's the thing. But
but I wasn't throw the Travis Kelty thing saying that
you know, no one gave us a chance that that
that's wrong. I mean before the season it was Buffalo

(12:31):
in Kansas City. That was a deal. Right. This is
the this is the this is okay. If you were
to if you were to list superpowers that athletes have, right,
there's plenty of them. I think that athletes have, like
you know, the Hall of Fame players I played a
couple of, Like they're just you know, their ability to
just processes like otherworldly. Right. But the number one superpower
of athletes is convincing themselves they are the underdog in

(12:53):
any situation ever. It's the best motivation you could you
could ever have for anything in life. Is like no
one believes me. Right, I'm the underdog, and no matter what,
every athlete does it. Okay, the Chiefs did it, the
Patriots did it for years. Georgia won the championship this year, right,
second in a row. They haven't lost a game in
over a year. Right, The last loss with it was

(13:15):
was the Bamass's championship game two years ago now. And
after the game, they interviewed one of the players and
I think it was one of the one of the starters,
and one of he said, he said, everyone but just
to win seven games this year. And we took it
to we took it to heart, like, don't pick it,
win seven games, buddy, come on, Okay, So every the
superpower the athletes have now, is he getting a little

(13:37):
bit his Travis going overblown with it? Of course he
is a little much. The parades died now, so hopefully
the parade is you know what, we've passed that point
now where we won't talk about anymore. But every athlete
does this, man, Every athlete does it. You convince yourself
that you're the underdog, that no one believes in you
the world. Of course, I looked in theory the Chiefs

(14:00):
for the underdog on Sunday, right there, one and a
half underdog. Now I'm a gambler. I don't know if
you gamble, Andy, one a half points is not a lot, right,
it's not a lot of points. Slight underdog, barely underdog, right,
you know, one al points. It's not that big, but
it's enough to say we're the underdog. No one believes
in us. Right. And then of course before the game,
everyone picked the Eagles to win on on on Fox,

(14:22):
and it's like, oh, see see the putting the Eagles
to win. And I thought the Eagles were the better team.
And I still I still think Egles are the better team. Um.
The Chiefs just have Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. Those
are two to the best ever doing um and uh.
And they've made less mistakes. And so this is the
superpower of players. I did it too, Everyone's done it.
I'm the underdog, no one believes in me. It is

(14:46):
the best motivation that you can ever have as an athlete.
And athletes do it best. Unbelievable. I'll tell you what
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All right, let's talk about this arab Bi enemy situation,
which I tell you what I've had it up to here.
I will say this, I know arab b Enemy fairly well.
He played with the Cincinnati Bengals. He was third in

(16:10):
the Heisman. I lived there in Cincinnati area. I got
to know him fairly well. I found to be a gentleman.
And he's done a wonderful job here with Kansas City,
as you know. As you know he didn't call it
plays but offensive coordinator Okay, h Washington commander's higher the
enemies off as a coordinator and assistant coach. Just the
other day, here's the big question of the day, which
I think, Jeff, none of the media people are saying

(16:31):
if he was so valuable to Kansas City, and Andy
Read is praising him why did the Chiefs let him go? Alright?
So good question. Um, Andy Reid loves when his assistants
get their own jobs. Right. The tree for Andy Reid
is is ginormous, Okay, it's huge. And I think he

(16:55):
really likes when his coaches get coaching jobs, right and
when they move on in a succes eden And I
think he that's the what type of coach he is? Right,
He's he's nurturing. He wants players and players to succeed.
He wants former coaches of his that go ell sorts
to succeed. Um. But in the end, it is his offense.
I mean, it's Andy Reid. Is is the one who

(17:18):
is the wizard of Oz, right, like he's the one
pulling the strings. It's him. And so the players respect
and appreciate Eric B. Enemy's contribution to all of this,
but then it will always be Andy Reid. Now, all
that being said, plenty of coaches get head coaching jobs

(17:39):
that do less than Eric B. Enemy as a coordinator,
do more than him, when less far win far less
than Eric ban me right and correct and so but
here's so, here's the thing about about Eric B. Enemy
that that I think I the NFL has a minority

(17:59):
high airing problem. We all you agree with me, correct
on that, right, Okay, this feels a little different, Um,
And I can't explain why we we get leaks about
everything in the NFL. Right, there's nothing that we almost
don't know about the league that we want to find out, Right,

(18:20):
this is the one story that no one has said,
this is why Eric Bannemy can't get a job. Right.
And people can obviously point to race, and that's obviously
discussion that's worth having. But he's been on the fifteen
different head coaching interviews, fifteen of them, and and people
are like, uh no, like, like what what because of

(18:44):
his background thirty years ago? But we have that's thirty
years ago. You don't think he's changed since then, Like
we've given other players opportunities. He's garbage, really what he
has done? I agree? I agree? Like so I like,
I don't know why. Man, it really is baffling to me.

(19:08):
And yes, he doesn't call the place, so what look
offensive coordinators? It's it's a collaborative process, right, So, like
Andy Reid is obviously the overseer of the offense, right,
but Eric b enemy he put does part of the offense.
The offensive line coach mostly everywhere, does the run game
in accordance with the game plan for the week. Right,

(19:29):
the wide receiver coach does, does the part of it
one coach does like third down one coaches the red zone.
And then obviously on game day, Andy Reid calls the place.
But he he he might get his head said, hey, hey,
eb what do you like here? Hey offensive line coach,
what should we do here? Hey this coach, what should
we do in this situation? Like it's kind of a
collaborative process, even though Andy Reid's always pulling the strings.

(19:50):
So again, the idea that you have to call plays
to be a head coach is a bunch of nonsense.
We've seen it all the time. We're coaches that, even
from Andy Reid's tree, that don't call it plays. They get,
you know that, they get a head coaching job. So
the thing that I am curious to find out about
Eric b Enemy leaving leaving Kansas City is the Y.

(20:11):
Now we can guess the Y, right, The Y is
his agent. The NFL people that that higher have said, hey, look,
the reason you need to take this job is to
quote quote prove that you could be successful outside of
Kansas City, and if you do that, you will become
a head coach. But Patrick will host to Sam, how

(20:32):
how's it going to be successful? Well, that's the thing.
Everyone says, there's a lateral move. To me, it's a
down move. It's not even a loteral move. It's a
down move. You're going down. You're going to a place
that that a has sound house, a quarterback and be
You know, if ronal Vera doesn't win, he would not
even be the coach the whole season. Right, you might
have you might have an ownership change at some point

(20:53):
in this spring, and that owner is gonna want his
new as his own coach. Right, Like, there's just you're
going from Steve. It was gonna be right, one of
the best owners at all at all football, one of
the best coaches all football, the stable coaching staff, a
winning culture, a winning quarterback, all these things now to
like the exact opposite of this all in Washington and
so I I it stinks, it stinks that that the

(21:17):
airpim has to do this. But they didn't want him back.
I'm sure they would. I'm sure they'd love to have
him back. But I think any Reid wants his coaches
to go get head coaching jobs again. Like, look how
many of them have, whether it's Doug Peterson, whether it's
even from the Kansas City, right, Doug Peterson, Matt Naggy right,

(21:39):
Um uh. David Coley, by the way, who was the
coach of the Texans, was one of Andy Reid's guys. Um,
you know Mike Kafka is eventually gonna be a head
coach now the Giants o c but you know from
the Andy Reid tree, right, Like, this is what Andy
Reid wants for his coaches. He wants them to to
to to go upwards. Matt Naggi will probably the see again.

(22:00):
I'm sure he'll be a head coach again at some point. Um,
this is what any read wants. He's been He's been
lobbying for Eric b Enemy to be a head coach
now for many years. So, Um, the chiefs Offen is
gonna be fine because again the guy that pulls the strings,
the wizard is Andy Reid. It's always still there. He's
still there. And it's interesting. Um, for a couple of

(22:22):
years there we were going with the idea that you
know in the Eric b Ennemy calls the place, and
I just I'm glad we kind of figured out that
like that. You know that again that's not the case.
And then it doesn't matter because plenty of coaches get
get head coaching jumps that don't call the place so
Andy does it. It's a collaborative effort, right, you heard
about Eric Bennemy finding the nugget about the motion right

(22:43):
if you emotional guy kind of across the formation, the
Eagles freak out a little bit of defense, the emotionally
guy back and that corn dog play right, so like you. Again,
it's a collaborative effort, and I think Eric b Ennemy
will do well in Washington. The problem is the quarterback, Right,
how well can you do if Sam? How is your quarterback?
That becomes the you and and and the storyline has
always been, well, he doesn't do well on interviews. You

(23:05):
know what interview? If they called me and if I'm
Erik the enemy, you know, I say, here's my resume,
look like I did in Kansas City, Bingo, you want
me here? I am. I'm kind of I don't get it. Yeah,
I don't care to hear because when you listen to
him talk right, articulate thought, thoughtful, introspective and like, but
here's the two by like the fifteenth interview, I think

(23:26):
he would he be better at it, like anything, I don't.
Everyone says that it was the problem I go and
hire somebody to tell me how to do an interview. Everyone,
so every everyone says, right, the interview thing right? And
I just this is why, I just don't know. There
has to be to me, it can't just be the
minority hiring process as broken, which it is. We we

(23:48):
we we we acknowledge that on this show. We acknowledge
that I agreed, totally agree, but but but but but
something there's something else here, right, there's something else here
besides that, And I don't know what it is. And
maybe someone will be able to figure it out. Um
if he if he bombs in Washington, maybe oh see,

(24:11):
we knew he wasn't. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know, because there's gonna be something else here. Man,
there's no way that they coach this successful in Kansas City.
He can't get a job with Lovely Smith. Did that,
I don't get right again, Like he can't get a
job and Jeff Saturday, Well that's not a story it's ridiculous.
But like David Coley got a job right, It's so

(24:32):
there's something else here and it can't just be the
interview thing either. And no one, and I've asked, I've asked,
no one can give you a reason why it's amazing.
It really truly is amazing. It's it's really it's a
story that just won't go away. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm
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By the way, are they are they not? That's right
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you know, we we touched on this earlier about the
d Or dynasty, and we said that the cheese as
you mentioned, they won their second Super Bowl in four years,

(25:34):
you know, legitimate the Colma dynasty yet maybe one more
as you mentioned. Okay, but the future does look real
good for this Bowl club. Yeah. Yeah, have Pat Mahomes.
They've they've They've paid their quarterback already. Like there, this
is the first time the team has ever won. Who
has paid their quarter I didn't the quarterbacks taking like

(25:54):
seventent the cap. It's the first time that anyone has
won with the quarterback taking over twelve percent the cap
before or Um you know, they played the most amount
of rookies in the NFL on defense like by far
this season. Um they have, Yeah, they have. They have
tons of room for growth on the roster even after
a Super Bowl win. It's amazing. Man. I got a

(26:16):
couple of post Super Bowl questions. I want to run
by you as you played the game, and I didn't.
The only game I played was in the streets of Brooklyn,
too hand touch. That's bad. That's what I did all
right now? How could the NFL p A permit that
turf situation in Arizona? List week I saw these players
changing their cleats. I mean, how does that happen? How
do you do that? Yeah, it's it's embarrassing for the NFL. Right, Um,

(26:38):
you know, you spent eight thousand dollars on this special turf.
It's you know, it's designed in Oklahoma state. It's like,
you know, it's it looks like a golf you know,
golf turf supposedly, and it's pathetic, right and and it really, um,
it's it's really disappointing because too, you know, to me,
super Bowl should be the perfect of everything, right. The

(26:59):
weather should be perfect. Right should never like to me, sorry,
New York City, you should never have a super Bowl,
right like you cannot have Yeah, well, Detroit's inside at least,
right like you you can't. You cannot run the risk
of playing a super Bowl in bad weather, like you
just can't. It has to be perfect weather, it must
be right Like to me, every condition should be perfect,
perfect weather, perfect field. Right, everything should give the players

(27:22):
the maximum opportunity to play their best football on the
best stage. And yeah, the turf effect that both teams,
it helps the offensive wine over the defensive. And what
it did too for me, at least is you know, Yeah,
the Chief's offensive line played very well. And every time
all these clips that were showing of Eagles defensive lineman slipping,
the Chefs offensive line was pretty much in great position

(27:42):
all those times toos. So it takes away kind of
like the the eye towards the you know, to the
offensive line doing a good job. But I will give
the Eagles credit. Man, they have earned a lot of
respect for me. Not that I didn't respect him in
the first place, but from hearing from Howie Roseman, from
Jalen Hurts, from Jason Kelsey, all their leaders. No excuses, right,

(28:03):
no excuses. We played in the field, so to Kansas City, right,
we're not making an excuse. Jason Kelsey listen to his
podcast with Travis It's great New Heights. Um. He said, Look,
we went in the field earlier. I tested the cleats out.
I wore my normal cleats. I was fine with ample
opportunity to test the field out beforehand. You could change
your cleats if you wanted to. And yeah, it's stunk,

(28:25):
but something for both teams equally. I mean, there was
a play that it was for social media. I'm sure
you saw it where you know you had both Eagles
defensive and slipping on one play and Pat Mahomes slowed
down on one play not not acceptable, and and I
do it just it just can't happen, right, You don't
see that in high school games? You can. And I'm

(28:46):
a grass guy. I want all football to be played
on grass. But you can't. What what happened? Why why
don't we just go back to having a small little
logo in the field, Like all these logos on the
field slipping over the place, like it's just a bad
look for the NFL to have this discussion after a
game like that, which was a fabulous game. It was

(29:06):
a great football game to be talking about the field
and less but not least that Eagles the Lady Eagles
penalty James Bradberry called for holding. Yes. JB said it
was the correct cole, which I gave a lot of
credit for standing up and doing that. But people went
bonkers and and people were saying that the rest rigged
the Super Bowl. And look, that never would have happened

(29:26):
fifteen years ago. They say it now because everybody and
their mother is betting on these games and money was lost.
That's why they're saying it's rigged. The thing. It's a
rigged because it's an easy excuse to take away, you know,
to take away like just from the reality of of
like you met you you chose the wrong team to win, right,
So okay, here's the about that. So it was holding

(29:48):
right and Barn Barry admitted it. And if you look
at the videos, it's clear right. And you have to
understand where the official who called was where he was
standing from his vantage point. It's what percent of holding
called right and the arms the arms outrea he held
and he pulled himself closer to Juju. So now the
question is is twofold right one is? Okay, you haven't
called many of those in the game, should you you know,

(30:11):
if you haven't called many of them, should should you
call it there? Okay that's the question. And okay, I
I buy it. You don't want to call them all game,
then maybe don't call that one there because one the
thing I don't buy is the like, whoa, you can't
call it that time of the game. Well what does that?
What does that mean? So? What's the cutoff point in
a game where you don't call penalties anymore? Is it?

(30:32):
Is it two minutes? Is it a minute and a half. Um,
you know, people I really respect were like the you know,
the officials should have talked it over and decided it
didn't matter. What do you mean it didn't matter? How
do you know it didn't matter because the ball was overthrown.
It was overthrown to a guy that was held. You
don't know that, you don't know it doesn't matter, Like
I just so um, and I think people are upset

(30:54):
because look, obviously it was it was setting up, It
was setting up for a great ending, right is that
if the chief score there, I think they could field
goal poles have about a minute and a half left
to go, Bessie match, right, the even match a field
goal overtime, Like, there were plenty of things that could
have happened differently had there not been a holding instead
of just was like two minutes of you we don't

(31:15):
think it's gonna win, right, So I mean the the
the Chiefs are gonna win. But Bradberry coming out and
saying yeah, I held him was so so helpful because
if he doesn't, then we have to hear about it
for years and years and year. It takes pressure off
the official as well. Yeah, because again it wasn't holding.
If you want to argue that they haven't called many

(31:36):
of those all game fair, they did not. They missed
one earlier blade and p I ju juice with schuster Um.
But I just appreciate the Eagles saying like, yeah, we're
not We're not letting officials determine the outcome of the game.
It's not what we lost it was. It made me
very happy to hear them say that, because as players,
we don't blame officials for losing. You exactly right. He's

(31:57):
Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Firmer. We are Sports sunthing on
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(32:18):
the NFL, is life, whatever it may be. Are you ready, Jeff?
Are you ready? Let's do it? Okay, getting up close
and personal. At what age did you start thinking of
pro football. Uh, college, I never I never thought. I
always thought i'd play professional baseball as a kid. Really yeah,
I never thought I play football. Did start playing football

(32:39):
Toll high school? And you speaking of college? Why was
the University of Oregon top on your list? Oh? Man?
I Uh, the coaching staff was was fabulous. I really
enjoyed my visit there. They're also just very honest with
me about the whole process. Um. They had told me
the entire time that they were waiting on another player
to commit and if that player can it, I might

(33:00):
lose my scholarship. And that player did commit, and they
called me and we're like hey, like we need to answer,
and I was like all right, cool, And then I
told I was coming. Like they just working honest with me,
And I like to coaching staff and I liked everything
about it like they just were it was. It felt
like home when I visited. Um, no regrets. I'm glad
I went there. Best cult you ever played for be
a college pro And why? Um? To me, it was

(33:23):
it was Andy Reid. And it's not really like a
slight at Tom Coughlin. I mean they're both Hall of
Fame coaches. Just working with Andy Reid. Just it's like
offensively right because he was so involved in the actual offense. Um,
you know, like listening to him detail the screen game
like something that that I think people take for granted,
and him walking through the exact steps exactly of like

(33:46):
where the running back needs to be, where the ball
needs to be thrown, like the amount of detail. And
then also to his love of food. Man, he when
he talks about food, he looked legitimately loves to eat
like obviously, I mean I think we could we can
make that inference there, but like cheeseburgers, oh, everything, everything,
man Like, he he is a true fan. I um

(34:09):
one of the first times I actually ever talked to him,
So I was like a lower level of free agent
when I signed there, I was like a you know,
uh um, you know, a third wave free agent, right,
So I was like the third wave free agency. So
I'd never even talked talk to Andy Reid. And we
start o t s and you know, I'm not talking
to the head coach. I'm you know, backup off it's alignment.
And I saw him in the airport one time, like

(34:30):
but more a weekend. He was flying back I think
to a place he has in California, and um, it's
just like may right. He got the job in January
and we talked about barbecue for thirty minutes in the
in the in the airport, and he knew the exact
times that, like all the burnt ends were ready at
every barbecue place in Kansas City. He's like, he's like

(34:52):
four o'clock, Jack Stack, that's when they're the best. You
know Oklahoma Joe's, which is now I think Casey Joe's,
but you know Oklahoma Joe's five pm best best time
to get the burnt ends, like he knew exactly, like
he legitimately loves food, and um, when he talks about
like eating cheeseburgers and pizza like he's legitim I wouldn't
imagine like after Super Bowl he goes back to his

(35:14):
hotel room and he has a cheeseburger like he lived
that he legitimately celebrates by having some food. That's what
I do too, Stranger, because you're a bio which said
that you you've got into your girth and your size
because your mom's chicken soup. That's what you're saying. Yeah,
that that might be a little of exaggeration, but yes,
I I do enjoy a good good a good chicken,

(35:35):
super good MutS of ball soup. Um. But yeah, I know,
look I don't drink like so like I am with
him on food like food is like my jam, like
I celebrate with food, all right. And look also on
that bio said you didn't start playing football to thirteen
because your parents? What did you go to Hebrew school?
Which I did as well. I got to ask you,
do you still remember you're half Torah when you were
bombssed with the thirteen? No Tora? But um as my

(36:00):
son is my both my kids in Hebrew school, but
as my like as my son is starting to go
through the process. He's only eight and a half, but
you know we're starting to you know, ten more synagogue
and whatnot, and um god, the bar Mitzer process. I
went to, we go to conservative synagogue, and I went
to a recently went to a bar mitz abotments a
reform synagogue, and I just like I want to switch

(36:22):
over just for that reason, like the but there's so
much shorter. I want, oh yeah, some to have a
much shorter, much shorter hot tra portion. Um. I'll give
you a quick story about my boys Okay, we went
to Bulgaria to adopt two boys. Okay, so this is
years ago. My boys are thirty and twenty nine now.
And uh, they came here, they took six months to
speak English. Then they had to go to school and

(36:44):
learn a language and in Spanish, and then we sent
up to Hebrew school to learn Hebrew. So they were
all messed up. Okay, but they did get barmits when
they read the Hebrew, so it worked out well. But
and Hebrew is not an easy language to learn. And
then and then like this is the thing about Hebrew, guys,
for I know someone's and you're just so curious about this.
The Hebrew and the Tora is different than the Hebrew

(37:05):
like that you speak and the Hebrew in the hof
Tora is different than the Hebrew in the tora, so
like have different vowels. So like it's just, yeah, we're
going to complicated. There's there's no they're they're singing vowels
in the tora like they're singing so like so like
they're singing vowels, so like it's just they're like three

(37:27):
different languages within Hebrew that you have to read at
your barb bat mitzvah, and then you have the you
have typically like the the older, the older, like the
older men who who stand next to you and correct
you as you're doing your portion, and you're like so
like you're just you're just terrified to screw up, and

(37:49):
then you screw up and then they yell it out
like they yell out the wrong portion. You messed up,
but understands anything. Who's listening, And it's like and it's
like two lines and you're already two lines past that
you have to go back and right out. It's just
but then you're a man. You're man at thirteen. So yeah,
it pays off and you get a lot of money
in your party. I do hope one day I can
meet you in Indianapolis and take you to Shapiro's Daily

(38:11):
because they got great soup and great pastrami and combi Shapiro's.
That's what we're gonna do. I was gonna ask you
the best player you ever played with and against left
the whole death, because it's almost not to roll along.
One man stands alone will tell you who he is.
Right here. How Fox Sports Sunday coming up with Jeff
One is truly the loneliest number that's coming right up. Yes,

(38:32):
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(38:53):
I got some things to ask you put the thinking
cap on. Okay. Number one, you know these football players.
I think most people who turn on the tube and
watched the games being Monday night, Sunday night, Thursday night,
Sunday afternoon, whatever, they're seeing all these guys in the
booth of the ex players, the Tony Romos, the Greg Olson's.
How do these guys get these gigs? Is it an agent?

(39:14):
I mean, I'd like to know. Is it tryout? Is
an open want to do you one? How do we
get these gigs? Um? Well, look, okay, um obviously name
brand helps, right, helps you get in the door, right,
and now you obviously have to test for these jobs.
So you're gonna go into you know, to Fox or

(39:34):
CBS or NBC, and you're gonna do a couple of
test runs with with you know, I think they talked about,
you know, Greg Olsen and Kevin Burkehart met, you know,
did it a couple of test runs and you know,
the chemistry worked out well and Greg was good at it,
which he is. And but you know, getting you know,
having a big name is definitely the start of that process.
But does your agent do it? Are you just contacted

(39:55):
network on your your agent? Your agent helps? Um? But
you know, if you're Tony rome Mo, you gotta let
up on everybody. You don't need an agent. You just
call over and say hey, I'm um, yeah, I'm Tom Brady.
Like your agent helps to negotiate a contract. Um My,
my agent is fantastic. I love I love her. Um,

(40:18):
I mean they know who I am and because I
mean it's so like it it named brand health. But
you have to be good at it, right, you know.
Greg Olsen is very good at it. Tony Romo I
thought this year too, you know, as Jim a little
bit too much of that. But you know, like you
have to be good at it, right. So but you know,
getting getting your having any big name certainly helps you

(40:41):
get in the door those opportunities where someone like myself,
you know who not a Pro Bowl or got a
Hall of Famer. Yeah, but you're a big but you're
a pro player, a formal pro player that played University
of Oregon at least maybe the Pack twelve would. I mean,
I do pack to a radio for a living, so
I mean that that obviously helped with that, but I don't.
I also don't want to call games on Pactolve network either,

(41:03):
So that's that's a part of it. Like that. The
thing is is like there's there's sixteen NFL games at
most a weekend, right if everyone's playing on a weekend,
So it's only sixteen of those jobs to be had, right,
And so you know there's one Thursday night games that
that's out right, you know Herbie has that one, right
is analyst job. Then there's one on Sunday Football, so

(41:25):
you know that's Callin's worth. There's one of money, so
that's aikman. Now there's thirteen games left, right, So like
there's not a lot of inventory, and every every X
player wants to call games. It's hard to call games
I tried for a couple of years. I'm hoping to
get back into it. Actually this year, you know, maybe
game or two would be nice. Um. It's just it's
it's hard and so um. That's why I do a

(41:45):
lot of radio. I do some some television work. I
do a bunch of gambling stuff like it. You have
to find kind of where your where your niche is,
what you're good at. And we chose to focus more
on radio than on calling games because that was where
we thought my career path would lead. And it's been great.
And now that I have kind of settled into kind

(42:06):
of a couple of career paths and I can, hey
call you call over to work for Fox Sports, call
the Fox. Hey can I get maybe a couple opportunity
to call a couple of games the college side this year,
not the NFL side, you know, Like so there's you
know that that's kind of the way the process sort
of works, all right. And obviously if you wear a uniform,
you're you have a leg up on a lot of people.
I mean, the analysts. I don't think there's any analysts

(42:28):
in any sport that has not played the game. Is
that correct? I would think I mean, the only the
only one in the in the football side that does
anything is Mina Kimes. Calls games called rams preseason games, um,
and she's really good at it. But she did not
play football obviously in the NFL. I think she's the
only one I can think of that it never has

(42:49):
played football, um in the NFL that does any preseason,
regular season, does any NFL games? All right, now, let's
talk about the play at the Philadelphia Eagles. As an
fensive lineman and XT offensive line, you would appreciate this
to play the Philadelphia Eagles used on fourth down this
past season. The play is a quarterback sneak to alignment,
get under and behind the quarterback Jalen Hurts. They push

(43:11):
him from the rear over the top of the defense. Okay,
the toush push. Now, it's some backlog on this that
people who want to get rid of the toush push.
Your take on it, is it legal? Is it good?
Is it good for the game? Tell me about the
tush push, the touch push, just like the bush push. Um.
So this was, uh, this work of the time, right,

(43:32):
I think it was six for six and Super Bowl.
So if you're new to the toush push. It's a
quarterback sneak on steroids. Right. So the Eagles line up
and basically rugby scrum right. The offensive alignment are low
to the ground four point stances. The ball snapped the
Jalen Hurts and then two tight ends to running backs
to wide receivers push Jalen Hurts basically over the top

(43:54):
of the pile. Four first down. Jalen Hurts, by the way,
remarkably strong lower body. I think that he squats six pounds.
Used to be a power lifter. I don't know if
you power lifts anymore. But he's a very strong, you know,
strong athlete. Right, So that that helps a lot in
the success of this play. So does the Eagles offensive
line and whatnot. Um, I think that I think it

(44:15):
gets outlawed because it's too easy for the offense, not
for the reasons that they have been said. I saw that,
you know, the NFL thinks it's not skilled enough play. Well,
it's a very skilled play, right, As I mentioned. The
offensive line has to move the defensive line, Okay, Jalen
Hurts has to skillfully find a spot to lunch forward. Um,

(44:36):
it's not, it's not. It's not it's not. It's aesthetically pleasing,
so like what it's who cares? Um? But I will
think it'll be outlawed for two reasons. One is it's
too easy. Like I know that's a silly thing to say,
but it is, Like I think that the NFL's gonna

(44:56):
look at it be like yeah, like we we can't
allow a play it. The offense already has too much advantages,
right with the way the rules and the way it's officiated.
We can't allow there to be a play with this
high of a success, right, We're just not gonna allow it.
Um and be is that what what I think they're
gonna say is it's a player safety issue? Where and

(45:18):
I do think this is a legitimate concern. Um, it's
a it's a very like it's a physical play, right,
Like you're actually I'm really excited to talk to um
in some of the Eagle's offensive alignment at some point
this offseason about this play because it can't be it
can't feel good. It's got it's like it's it's a
very physical, up close play. Yeah, I don't think you

(45:41):
want to do it with every quarterback out there? Well no, no, no, no,
I'm talking about like that for the like the offensive
defensive alignment getting hurt. So when when I was when
I when I entered the NFL on field your you know,
we as offensive alignment protect on field goal, right, We're
we're the ones that protect you know, for the field cooker,
and they used to be a type of field goal

(46:02):
block the defense could do called a double push right
where they have you know, they have the defensive linemen
in their stands and then behind the defensive linemen are linebackers.
At the snap of the ball, they could push the
defensive lineman basically in the butt, pushed them into the
offensive lineman and try to knock us back words to
block the kick. Right, Well, that's pretty dangerous. Like if
I'm in my stance and I'm trying to block basically

(46:25):
six hundred pounds of athletes, it's hard and like guys
are getting hurt right your knees and ankles, achilles, feet,
hand shoulders, neck, head, Like it's a it's a tough
ask for us to do that. Well, you're that's what
you're asking players on defensive line to do. Now, an
offensive linement is coming at you, right, you're bracing for

(46:46):
that and then oh, here's the quarterback being pushed into
the offensive lineman with two guys pushing behind him. So
that's my guess about why it gets and I know
Eagles fans of the NFLT, I just start baking the
cab about you guys. Um, that's my guess. It gets
banned because of player safety and just kind of the
ease of success rather than it does not. It's not

(47:07):
a skillful player aesthentically. Please have you been on a
team where maybe the coaching staff would want to see
the tush push, but the quarterbacks is not. I I
don't feel safe doing it. I don't I don't want
to do it. Well, I would, I mean I don't.
I don't think Eli Manning would be when I played
with him, would have been very um, very excited to
doush push right, He's like, But it's tough for a

(47:30):
player to say that. I mean, I mean, we we
didn't ever war. We didn't run qb sneaks with with Eli. Um.
The Chiefs have not run a quarterback sneak with Pat
Mahomes since he heard his knee in twenty Um. Yeah,
they haven't one run. Now. I'm sure Pat would love
to do it, but they just they haven't done it. Uh.
They've run QB sees with Blake Bell and Travis Kelsey.

(47:50):
They have not won one quarterback team. It's it's the
most successful play in the NFL high success rate. They
have not run one QB steak with Pat Mahomes since
he disocarated his knee and in the middle of twenty
nineteen season. Um, So everyone says, well, if it's so easy,
if it's so easy, why why don't more teams do it?
Well Again, some teams just don't want their quarterbacks to

(48:12):
be in that situation. They don't want the quarterbacks to
get you take extra hits. I don't want the quarterbacks
to be pushed from behind. They don't want their quarterbacks
to have to be in control of the offense. And
in those moments like that, you know, that's that's why
I don't do it. Amazing, It's funny. So you think
that this rule is going to go by the boards,
I think, I think what they're gonna do, and I don't,
And I don't know what the language end up being. Um,

(48:34):
whether they're gonna because they used to outlaw you being
able to push an offensive player and you know, to
help them, right like you you weren't able to push
your own teammates. You can do that now. I wonder
if they make that rule, they take that rule away,
or they just stay behind the line of streaments you
can't do it. I wonder how they're going to actually
write the language of of taking this play away. But

(48:56):
I think I think I think they actually take it away.
And everything that is easy the NFL wants to take
away because the point after a touchdown they moved back
to thirty three yards because that basically was too easy.
But you know, to me, I'm like a statin nut.
You know, I think all the records go by the
boards because of a guy is consecutively hitting p A
T s from a certain distance, then he's going back

(49:17):
to thirty three yards. It doesn't mean anything. Again, the
standard years ago if a running back rush for a
thousand yards when I was great, but you know what,
they played twelve games, they played fourteen games, that's what
they did. They're playing seventeen freaking games. Now, it doesn't
mean anything if it rushed for a thousand yards, right,
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, look, it's it's obviously different
now and you know, and they're gonna eighteen games. That
would imagine at some point, um, fairly soon, and then

(49:40):
it's gonna be even you know, even even more you know,
even more different. Think you I think you just look
at your yards per game, right, you know, if your
yards per game and samous and that's kind of how
you evaluate that. So um that that to me is
kind of how I would look at it is in
some of those instances. Is you know, but records are good.
You know, they're made to be broken, and they're gonna
be broken as we I mean, I don't think anyone

(50:01):
thought Kareem scoring record would be broken at some point,
but obviously it was. Um, you know, that's they're made
to be broken. And I'm sure at some point we're
gonna have other NFL records broken because of you know,
Eric Dickerson's record will be broken with the eighteen game schedule,
I'll imagine at some point, um. But but you know what,
the average fan will follow those records, doesn't realize that

(50:22):
there's an indendum to the record. There's an asterisk there.
Like even with Kareem. It was great what Kareem did,
but Lebron came back and he's played more seasons, he's
played in more games. It just it doesn't there's nothing
equal there. You know, if you want to have a record,
a record should be an equal situation. You know, even
though you played nineteen sixty and you're playing a nine,

(50:44):
you're playing three. This should be some some continuity there.
This is this is why, this is why we're here, right,
gives us, this gives us hours of content. We could
argue about the hours. This is why they don't do it.
They know that that them, not that they're not pretty
asked or extens these records, and context allows us to
have multiple segments about why you should do it. So

(51:06):
there there no Look, I think this is obviously the
point of of context when it comes to some of
these records, right, I mean, like, I'm I've argued for
years that you should put Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens
the Hall of Fame and then just explain their careers
in the Hall of Fame. Like it feels very simple
to me, right, Like, I don't know why you can't
do that, um, And for some of the records, you

(51:27):
can do the same thing as well. Okay, well this
record happened eighteen games this record happen in sixteen games, right,
Like have the context of of the record in the
Hall of Fame, Like, have the context of Barry Bond's
career in the Hall of Fame or Roger clemens career
in the Hall of Fame. P ro should be in
the Hall of Fame too, fair Like, I don't know
why Roger clements. At least there's an argument to be

(51:48):
made that maybe he did something to help his record.
Pete Rose didn't you know when he accomplished six it's
he did that on his own, without any drug anything else.
You know, he bet, which is no no for Major
League Baseball, but that did not affect his right. So
if you but like just put it, put put it
in there and next the plaque, you explain the controversy

(52:10):
like to me and then and then and then I
think if you visit Cooper's town, like if you know,
if I'm in Cooperstown with my son, and I say, well,
here's and I grew up with Giants fans, so here's
you know, here's Barry Bonds. He's my favorite player as
a kid. Um, here's his story. And I have to
and it's my job to explain to my son, his story,
and I think that's part of baseball history and he

(52:31):
should be in the Hall of Fame for many other
reasons besides just that, but um that. So, I think
with records like if if someone rushes, for if someone
breaks Eric Dickerson's record eighteen games on sixteen games, I think,
you know, obviously it's hive me the record book as that,
but you say like, hey, look this happened eighteen games,
uh not sixteen games or you know whatever other record
it's gonna be. Look, I think to your to your

(52:54):
to your point as well, we're gonna have a lot
of a lot of players, especially at quarterback throwing ours
we're running back rushing yards. That just becomes stack compilers, right,
And when you get to Hall of Fame time, it's
gonna be like, well, Matt Ryan's third all time in
passing yards, You're like what what what? Matt staffords first
all time? You're like what what? What? What? What's happening here?

(53:15):
Like these It's gonna be like just you're gonna have
to put players in the Hall of Fame or not Ryan,
because in my heart of what I think he's a
Hall of Famer. I really do so Matt Ryan is
seventh all time. He's not ever gonna catch Tom Brady,
but um, he's but like you know, but you know
Matt Stafford is is. Yeah, he got her last year.

(53:36):
He was on pace to catch Tom at some point.
Um Tom played those forty five. But you know if
Matt Stafford plays, so he's forty five, he can he
can catch maybe catch him. But you know, like the
point is, you know, Matt Ryan seventh all time in yards.
He plays another four more seasons, I don't know how
much he has left. He's gonna get up to at
least at least fifth all time. And because he's he's

(53:58):
close to being fifth right now, maybe he gets to five,
maybe gets the third if he can play, Yeah, he plays. Actually,
if he plays three more seasons, he'll be third all
time in passing um. If he just has generally four
thousand yards the season, right, um, thirty five yard the season.
That's gonna en in the Hall of Fame with no

(54:18):
m vps, no Super Bowls like that to be as
a stack compiler, I don't know. If that guy's a
Hall of Famer, it'll be tough. I mean the way
I sorry, he won the MVP in se right, I'm
sorry about he won MVP award. It will be won
the MVP that year, correct, So one MVP award. My
game with the Hall of Fame is like I'm kind
of of the opinion, like you have to be one

(54:42):
of the best players in your position over a certain
amount of years to be the Hall of Fame, Like
Matt Ryan was never the best one year, Like, come on, man,
it's gonna be tough because of the position he plays.
That's the key as well, because there's a lot of
lineman who probably deserves to be in the Hall of Fame,
but they just don't compasse stats the Pancakes stat But

(55:07):
we're getting we're getting these guys in there. There's there's
really only one guy right now on the backlock. I
mean Willie Anderson should be in, but like there's there's
really not many guys that I in my opinion, like
offensive alignment that are kind of waiting to get in
right now that I'm like that have to be in
in my opinion is that Willie. Like they get in eventually,
but they're very selected about offensive alignment. But you know
there's no because there's no stat like we have players

(55:29):
again in the NFL that are going to be stack
compilers because they play for so long. Matt Ryan, we
get into Frank Gore at some point, like Frank Gore's
third all time of rushing it was he it was
he ever top three running back one season, I think
in his career him, that's the key with him. But
as that is, that is that is that a Hall

(55:50):
of fame because you you stayed healthy. That's that's what
like hearing you, it's gonna be tough, but I think
he'll get in. He's to get in. But my point
is like to you know, again, like to your point
about how we look at records, right, how we look
at at stats now because guys play longer and they
stay healthier. And again there's not a knock on on
what Frank or did to prepare his body each week,

(56:12):
and and and to play each week, and to be
reliable and be a good teammate. All those these are
absolutely true. But if we're talking about Hall of fame right,
like to me, the hall of fame is the best
to ever do it right, and you have to be
one of the best in your position while you played.
And Matt Ryan certainly wasn't throughout his career. He was good.
He had one great season, but he wasn't. He wasn't

(56:33):
at any time the best for as I would hate
to see Matt Ryan get in before Kenny Anderson of
the Bengals getting in because Kenny anders was a two
time m v P. But people will see that. But
you know, it's tough. Matt Ryan made. Ryan made. Matt
Ryan made one All Pro team his entire career, four
time Pro Bowl, four time Pro Bowler. Um. So I

(56:56):
just again I think that that that's the hard part
about the era of football we're now when it comes
to you know, kind of looking at the stats, right,
is that we're gonna get you know, these kind of
compilers as a passing game now right, far more than
it was ten even ten years ago, fifteen years ago.
And you're gonna have all these players that put up
these numbers. Even a wide receiver, there's wide receivers are
gonna end up with a lot with a lot of

(57:17):
a lot of a lot of yards. Um. The one
that I don't think people realize, and I think he
will be a Hall of famers and he really is good,
like Mike Evans is gonna end up in the top
five of touchdowns and in receiving yards, and no one
has any idea that he's even remotely close to being
in that category. Did you know that, by the way,
Mike Evans will end up if he just kind of
stays at the pace, He's at top five and one

(57:39):
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cutched on this earlier today and I think we need

(58:21):
to go a little deeply here. Jeff Eric b enemy
funny because a new job offensive coordinator of the Washington Commanders,
an assistant head coach, and we asked the question, what
took so long? Why not a head coaching job? It
could be a racial thing, who knows. Maybe the interview process,
who knows. But some said he didn't interview well. But
what about his arrest record? I went back and checked.
It is unbelievable. But how long does one have to

(58:43):
live with a back record like this? I mean back
In February, according to the South Florida Sun Sentinel newspaper,
Colorado police arrested the Enemy after a ball fight. He
was charged with disorderly conduct. Then in July of according
to the Orlando Center Center, the Enemy pleaded no contest
after shoving a firefighter. September of ninety three, Colorado police

(59:08):
arrested the Enemy, then in the NFL reporting that the
Enemy allegedly grabbed the female parking attendant by the neck
and threatened her. In April two thousand one, according to
The Daily Bruin, Colorado police arrested the Enemy on a
d u I charge. Three months after he joined the
U c l A football staff as a running back coach.

(59:28):
He was also linked to allegations get this that Colorado's
football program used alcohol in sex to lower recruits. I mean,
obviously it's down there, that's on the books. But how
long does they have to live with this? Well, I
mean I would say that we have players in the

(59:48):
NFL that have had incidences, um, and you know that
are as bad, worse, not as bad. I mean we
we we have it was all the time, right that
they get the ability to have second chances. And I
don't know, um, if this is the exact reason why
Eric Bannemy doesn't have a head coaching job, We'll find

(01:00:10):
out obviously if he does well in Washington, if if
these are the reasons why, But um, you know you
mentioned the last one. The most recent one was a
d U Y in two thou one correct, So a
lot of those either were when he was in college
in the early nineties, right, Um, one of the one
in the NFL, and then obviously the d U I
and two one. It's three now, right, I mean, at

(01:00:32):
what point do we say, okay, let's give him a
second hide we we've given again, We've given plenty of
players one currently right now, thirty women accused him. Uh,
and he's got the biggest contract in NFL history, in
NFL history, UM, and I would say that if I
had a daughter, I'd soon have there a b enemy

(01:00:53):
date my daughter then DeShawn Watson, Right, and so I again,
as I said earlier in the earlier in the earlier hour,
there there has to be something that we don't know
or that hasn't been put out yet. And maybe it's
a combination of you know, the NFL is terrible at

(01:01:19):
hiring minority candidates. We've we've discussed this before. It's absolutely true.
If you don't believe it, then your heads in the
sand and you're choosing not to believe it. It's very true.
Just look at the record of the NFL hiring process.
Maybe it's a combination of that, combination of his pass
as you mentioned, a combination of he doesn't interview well
whatever that means. He's been a fifteen head coaching interviews,

(01:01:41):
I would imagine, and he understands an interview he interviewed
well enough for the head for the office courting your
job in Washington. Um, maybe it's a combination, you know,
those three things. Plus he doesn't call the plays. I mean,
who cares? Right? We talked about this plenty of coaches
and in fact, you Hackett got a head coaching job.
He didn't called the plays in Green Bay like get
out of here? Right? Um? Oh? He he designed the
red zone? Okay, okay? Like so like what so air

(01:02:02):
Biennomy helped to like, it's just this these excuses for
why not Abod isn't hired. Maybe it's all four of
those things together and maybe there's other but like it
still feels there's one missing piece, right, there's something that
we don't know about and no one's either willing to report.
But could there be a word circulating around the NFL saying,

(01:02:24):
don't hire this guy. He's trouble, he's gonna bead record.
Could that be maybe remember that he has a bad
past you mean or bad currently bad past? Uh No.
I don't think Roger Goodell is like telling people he
can he's unhireable. Um, but I think so look, we

(01:02:45):
they're just saying, um, you know, you're your talent outweighs
your problems to your problems out why your talent? Right?
So you know, for example, was Shaun Watson right, the
Browns believed that his talent, okay, his talent level outweighs
is problem lums. So they gave him the most money
of all time. I've always had talent. Trump's trouble exactly right, same, same,

(01:03:07):
same thing. Right, they gave him the most money of
all time because they believe his talent outweighs his problems. Right,
and then eventually your problems outwere your talent, like you know,
like Antonio Brown, right, his problems outweigh his talent. Eventually
you're like, yeah, just can't sign this guy anymore. Right,
So you know, in this instance, maybe teams feel that

(01:03:27):
he's not as talented as a coach as we give
him credit for. I disagree on that. I'm excited to
see his his opportunity in Washington and hiring him with
his past, this is not worth it for them. Again,
We've had plenty of players that have been players go
to jail and come back that players like Deshaun Watson
who have been accused um by thirty women, who have

(01:03:50):
the biggest contract of all time. They had players you
get accused of other domestic violence, uh you know, related
crimes um. And they're all working in the NFL and
the air p enemy isn't working there. Thought, I get it,
but can'te a head coaching job because of things that
you mentioned that happened nine three two one. I don't know,

(01:04:10):
man um. It seems it's something something's missing, and I
don't know. I don't know what it is, and I wish.
But the other thing is that like he's he's not
really set up for success, like what the standard is
for him the chief's offense, right, Like what's he gonna
do with Sam Howell? Yeah, And people are saying it's

(01:04:33):
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(01:05:36):
on it about minorities in Europe, the enemy uh and
the Rooney rule I guess is you must interview at
least one minority candidate for a head coaching position. Now
it's expanded to other positions as well. It says nothing
honestly about qualifications. So if you're a minority and you
want to apply for a job, you've got a good
shot at getting an interview because of the Routey rule.
Is that correct? Yeah? So it seems like the intent

(01:06:00):
here was good, but the application at times ends up
being like token interviews, you know, like you know, the
the intent was to get minority candidates um in front
of ownership right, and to get minority candidates you know
possibly you know, coaching interview practice and get them in

(01:06:20):
front of different hiring people than maybe. Um, you know
that maybe would have been otherwise, but it teems in
practicality and not end up actually hiring more minority candidates. Okay,
So when Jeff Saturday was named interim coach in Indianapolis,
should have been other candidates you can you know, you
get to skip that process and inter when you hire

(01:06:42):
interimate coach. Okay, okay, So now Jonathan Gannon was hired
as culture of the Arizona Connors the other day, first
and only black head coach was hired on Thursday. The
textas hide Damiko Ryan as the head coach. So out
of the five openings for head coaching positions this year,
one African American, one minority was hired. And what I
thought was even worse when Carolina lets Steve Wilkes go

(01:07:05):
because I thought he did a hell of a job
bringing that team back from the dead. Well okay, so, um,
a couple of things. There is don a job. No
one wanted that job, Like Brian Flores said, yeah, I'm
not thinking that job. So like I kind of maybe
give the Colonels a pass on that one, because I
don't think anyone wanted that job. So I mean I
think that would have. I think Brian Forest admitted right
like he would have. You know, he was offered the

(01:07:27):
job and said no, I'm good. So I mean, maybe
give the Cardinals a pass. That's really different. Wanted the job.
The defensive coordinator of the Bengals wanted that job. Yeah,
but but he's white. Right, So for this discussion, you know,
it's not really um, but I think you know, I think, yeah,
Lou would have taken it, of course, right, But the
point is like not many people wanted that job, right, Um,

(01:07:48):
so Carolina, Okay, so I live in Charlotte, right, and um,
you know, Steve Wilkes brought a lot of life into
the Panthers, and the obviously were you know, up until
week sixteen, it was right still kind of in the
playoff fund. They went down to Tampa, went up one
ten and then just a fourth quarter did go very
well on Tampa in the division. The thing about about
you know, there has been a small sample size, but

(01:08:10):
a bad run. Four teams that hire the interim coach
full time, and that may be scared away, you know,
David Tepper from doing that, and not to scrimming against
defensive coaches. But look, seven of the eight coaches in
the division around were offensive coaches, right, The one that
wasn't with Sean McDermott. The four coaches in the in

(01:08:32):
the in the you know, the championship ground were offensive coaches. Again,
not I'm not to scream against defensive guys, but you know,
it's like, there's the trend offense, right, And if you're
Carolina and you're drafting a quarterback in this draft, which
seems very likely, you know, I understand wanting to have
Frank Reich in offensive staff, be the you know, be

(01:08:53):
the be in in you know, in here to coach
up that that quarterback. Like I get that, I get
that idea. Right now, you can make the argument Steve
Wilkes hires so and so a coordinator. But again, the
hard part about so here's another hard part about being
a defensive coach in the league now, right, is that
let's take the Bills for example. Okay, so you hire

(01:09:15):
Brian Dambel to be your offensive coordinator. He does so
well that now the Giants hire him, right, And you
saw kind of a little bit of a slip back
for Josh Allen this season and the Bill's offense. Right,
So like if you let's say you you have Steve
Wilkes still here, and again I'm not he's let's say
he's the permanent coach. You hire offensive coordinator. Let's say

(01:09:38):
Jeff Schwartz. Let's say I'm the offensive coordinator for for
the Panthers. I do not want that job. Let's just
say I am okay, and and I do well in
year one with the rookie quarterback. I'm getting job interviews
in year one, Right, I might not take the job
in year one, I'm gonna get it. But in the
year two, I'm certainly taking a job. And now you're
with a with a with a quarterback anything year three

(01:10:00):
with a new offensive corner. It's just it's difficult to
develop a quarterback. Look what the charges are going. The
charges are on the third Oh see now in Herbert's
fourth season, and so I think that's that's like if
you're trying to hire, if you're trying to build up
a quarterback, a young quarterback, I understand going offensive coach.

(01:10:20):
Now you can make the argument, you can hire a
offensive coach of color, right, not Frank right who. I
think it's just a safe hire. You're not probably win
the Super Bowl with him. But you're just hiring someone
who's not gonna probably be very bad. You know, You're
just you're just gonna be you gonna be competitive with
with Frank Or, especially if I think they end up
with Derek Carr, which might be the answer for them
and not draft a quarterback. I don't think they I

(01:10:42):
don't think they brought it a Frank Or. I think
they get Derek Carr. But obviously they have the opportunity
to think with him being released by the Raiders. UM,
so that's why I think they hired an offensive coach
and an I think David Teppett said that all along
um as the reason why they hired an offensive coach.
But again, the track record for converting interim coach to
head coach is small sample size, but now doesn't go

(01:11:04):
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(01:11:47):
We're gonna take it easy this week. We're gonna take
it easy. I just want to let you know. I
know it doesn't really affect Jeff, but you went two
and three last week, both of you. Truth for wanting
me to tell you that. All right, Well, anyway, right,
we're gonna we're gonna move on. Here we go very
very easy. We're gonna start with the NHL. We're gonna
go over under six goals in the Winnipeg Jets at

(01:12:10):
New York, uh New Jersey Devil's game tomorrow Random Random
over six. It was six over over. You're taking over. Yeah,
well I don't. I don't. I don't watch one second

(01:12:31):
of hockey all season. Over. I'm gonna take under certainly
because you took over. There's the only reason I'm doing that.
I mean, it's kind of a tough bet, but six
goals is a lot of goals. I don't take it
over alright, cool. I was just thinking the kid Jack Hughes,
you know, I mean, we just have three himself. All right,
here we go, m b A. We're going to the

(01:12:52):
NBA here because we've got the All Star Game. Now,
the over under for the game is three and twenty
six points. Now give it to me, over under, Jeff, Um,
did you like weird formats? Right? Um, I'll root for points.

(01:13:14):
I'll say over. You know, I'm gonna say over too,
because those guys is kind of like a free f roll,
those NBA old stalks. I enjoy it because there's a
lot of athleticism there, and you see what these guys do,
but there's no defense whatsoever, and they just go crazy.
How many points did you say? It was three three
twenty last year. This would be the most points ever.

(01:13:35):
It looks like if they know a couple of years
ago they had over this, okay, and then it's a
good bit to say it's over. They don't play defense
in the regular season defense, right be it'll be four probably.
All right, we're gonna go to nt double a men's basketball.
Uh you n R n C State is mineus two

(01:13:57):
against U n C. Jeff oh, Um, NC State minus
two against U n C. Um. Let's see, they played
that game outdoor yesterday in hockey. I'll go with a
little bit of momentum from that game NC State, I'll
take NC State to cover this one. They're at home
as well. Um, a lot of a lot of bets

(01:14:20):
on North Carolina today as well. So give me, give me,
give me NC State to cover. I got the tar Heels.
I got the tar heels and this guy, I think
this is the time of year they're kicked into gear
because they've had a rough goal of it. I think
the tar Heels right now going to playoff time? Cool?
All right, here we go. We got us a women's
soccer I know, very exciting playing Japan. No wait a minute,

(01:14:44):
you're a host. You you shouldn't say very exciting and sarcastically.
I mean, you chose it that means you were excited
about it. I am. I'm sorry. Well, you know, I
don't know how excited you guys get about it, because
you know everything you do excites me. All right, who's playing?
I had little feedback of the ear, but almost probably
out of the secondment, how much? Who's playing with soccer?

(01:15:05):
You said? Yeah, it's women's soccer verse Japan. Yeah, I'll
take the women. I'll take the USA women. I don't
even care what it is. Just give me the women.
Well they're both women. It's Japan versus US. No, no,
give us US like, just whatever it is. I'll bet
on us. Guess riding with the United States women? All right? Cool?
Is there a line on this thing or no? It's
just it's just a half. It's a soccer money line.

(01:15:28):
You know. I'm taking Japan, you know what? An American crazy?
I should take the US of A. But and I
usually do root for them. I just think they're better athletes.
I think I think Japan and runs silly. I really
believe that. I don't know what. Wow, alright, well this guy,
this will really test you guys here and what you

(01:15:49):
guys really know all right about soccer and culture Italy
versus England and women's soccer. Just give me a money line.
You gotta be kidding. Test my my soccer culture. I don't.
I watched soccer once every four years, and I would say,
give me, uh, I'll go the the England England, England

(01:16:09):
English and women's team. Right. You know I'm gonna have
to go with with England as well. I just think
that soccer is more of a bedrock and in in
Great Britain than in Italy. Press. Maybe maybe I'm wrong,
but I'm going with England women. I would think, maybe
I don't know why, but I am. You're killing me
with these games. And I worked in soccer. I did,

(01:16:31):
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have percolating in my mind right now. As a pro athlete,
you would think the motivation factor would be pride, a championship, ringing,

(01:17:58):
and of course a check. Why don't we need all
this motivation as far as like bullet and boar material,
social media attacks, things like that. The athletes really need
that motivation on the pro level, Yes, because it is
a long season. It's a long grind of a season,
and to be able to have other things to motivate

(01:18:19):
to you besides like the obviously the obvious of like
we need to win the football game. Yes, you need
some sort of other motivation throughout a long grind of
NFL season that I think you absolutely need to have
some sort of like no one believes in us and
back against the wall underdog thing. So this is why
athletes do it all the time. This is exactly why,

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Because it's just a long, kind of hectic grind of
a season that any sort of extra motivation you can
find by playing the underdog role. This is why I
think again players super one of the superpower of players
is pretending that you're the underdog. I'm amazed. I'll tell
you why. Going back to my high school days, I
was a manager in my high school basketball team that

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a hell of a team. But the coach had used
this motivation on the bulletin board articles that were in
the newspaper that the opposing team would say something about them.
Was saying they're not good enough whatever, and that motivation
has gone from the high school level now I'm seeing
on the pro level. Really the athletes mindsets the same,
because look, when you get told you can't do something

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right for most of us, not everyone, right, you say,
you know what, screw that person. I'm gonna do it right.
I'm gonna prove them wrong. Now doesn't if an NFL
player doesn't manifest like if you're Travis Kelsey right for
who obviously has since set a week. If it does,
it manifest itself in like you preparing any extra that week.
Probably not right, like you probably prepare the same. But

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you know, maybe in in a in a in a
moment where you're tired during the game, you think to yourself, man,
they said I couldn't do it, suck it up, like
come on, like like pick it up, let's go. Like
you know, it's maybe just a moment like that one
moment throughout the game when you you know, you use
that little extra juice, right, little motivation, Like that's all
it is. That's all it is. It doesn't mean it's

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a super Bowl like the preparations that it's gonna be
intense all week. But maybe in one moment of of
when you're tired on the field, you think to yourself, like,
you know what, those guys that we couldn't do it, guys,
let's let's let's you know, let's win this one. That
that that's how manifests itself on game day. Okay, let's
go up to Travis Kelsey. Does he honestly believe that

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the media didn't think that they would win? I mean,
back in August, people were picking Buffalo and Kansas City
as teams that we're gonna go to the playoffs. I mean,
and he's basically saying they win the super Bowl, that
they're not gonna go anywhere. Here's the thing, Okay, look
is that because of social media and the ability for

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everyone to have a take, it's very easy to find
a handful of people that believe a certain thing. Had
to spin that into into believing that's how every one feels. Right.
But let's be fair. After the Chiefs lost Tyreek Hill,
a bunch of people thought that Chiefs were not going
to have the season they had, including myself. I thought
that this was the Bills year. I thought the Bills
were win the school this year. I thought the Chiefs

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would be the two seed, not not. I thought they
win the division still, so it's fair to say, like, yeah,
a lot of people did not think the Chiefs would
be back on the situation. Now, once I started playing well,
I changed my tune like once, and I reserved the
right when I picked the Bill say hey, look at
the Chiefs played better this year without Tyreek Hill, or
they look fine offense. I'm changing my pick back to

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Kansas City. But you know, there there was not an
overwhelming support of the Chiefs win the Super Bowl after
they lost Tyreek Hill. But again, is it enough to
play this the underdog card in the way that Travis
Kelsey did or has no? But again, this is what
athletes do. Man Tom Brady does it all the time

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and has done it. Georgia did it this year after
it almost puns pick us to win seven games. I
won't pick it in seven games, right, Like you know,
this is this is what athletes do. It's it's the
superpower that we have of saying, hey, no one believed
in me. Right. I had one coach tell me one time,
a coach in college told me between my junior and
senior I'd never play in the NFL. One coach just

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one time, one conversation. That's suddenly my entire career. I
used that before motivation of my entire career. One coach
told me that one time, one conversation, I used that
my entire career. Man like you just to see him
after you made the pros. Yeah, Um, I don't know
if even remembers he told me that, but nonetheless, Um,
I think he believed it. But then the last um,

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you know, like that, that's what we do. We use
that in like in moments where like I was tired of,
you know, working on the off seas or something. I
was like, you know what, no one believes in me
because this coach said this thing one time. That's the
way we do it. And so yeah, is it? Is
it louder when Travis Kelsey's in your face doing in
and saying in front of you, yeah? Is it? You know?

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But again then you heard then leading up to the
Bengals game, all you heard about the borough head and
then the mayor doing that awkward. Well, the Bengals did
themselves in by doing that. They created it. And then
you know in the trash talking the mayor did was
so weird. Um, so there was, you know, And I
get it, man, like this release of of energy after

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the super Bowl and you're kind of you know this
this you know, these talking points and whatnot, m of
of you know of emotion that you know come out.
But it's only but really, the only one saying is
Travis Kelsey. None the other chiefs are really talking like that.
Mahomes is not talking like that. Um, you know the
other the other team leaders aren't really talking like that.
It's just Travis Kelsey. I'm glad you brought the name

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Tyreek Hill. Okay, number one, I'm not so certain he's
happier now that he left Kansas City for Miami for
more money. But here's the deal. It all goes back
to this new new wave term that they call culture,
which makes me sick. I want to stick my finger
down my throat when I hear that word culture. Culture
to me is if a team is focused on Okay,
So the culture obviously is really good in Kansas City,

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but it wasn't good enough for Tyreek Hill. That's why
he left to go to Miami. All right, it's the
key to a winning team. Obviously, good personnel is the
key to a winning team. But money if a player
isn't happy on a winner, he's gonna leave. That's what
it's all about. Right. So this cultural thing is garbage.
It really is culture. I mean a coach comes in
here and creates a culture. Really, come on, Okay, So

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Tyree Hill left Kansas City because he wanted more money.
Let's be fair, right, he wanted a amount of money
and he obviously received that money from the Dolphins. That's
why he left. So the culture things, Your point is
exactly right. He left for money, um, and you know
he got his his more money. The culture thing is
interesting because I do think that there is you know,

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there is something to you know, to like, you know,
someone creating a winning environment, right, um, and that winning
environment kind of allowing players to to really be themselves
within the structure of what you do, right and being
adaptable and flexible and being able to mold you know,

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your team around your players. Like, there is something to that.
And you're exactly right, the culture of winning becomes easier. Well,
I guess culture becomes easier when you start winning a
lot more. And we see it all the time, right,
so you're create culture. Culture does winning. In my mind,
I think I think that you can. I think culture,

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it's hard to find culture. I certainly think that that
being able to um put your players in the best
position to succeed can be viewed in my opinions as culture,
and that obviously leads to winning, and that leads to success.
And so I think there is because again, I when

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when Andy Reid first got to Kansas City was when
I got there, right, that was my first year there,
and there certainly was you know, Andy Reid building that
team like that team had bad vibes when he got
there there were two and fourteen and his ability to
build up that team and build the culture and set
kind of an example of what he wanted the Chiefs
to be. That is, to me, building the culture up

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now we want a lot. And so when you start winning,
you buy into what coach read is selling you more
because you're winning, and that certainly is part of it.
So I do think there is, like there is a
little bit of that quote unquote culture building early on,
and then when you start winning, you you buy more
into it. Right, But how does the coach change And

(01:26:39):
you you're telling me that Andy Reid's first year there
was your first year there. What did he do when
he first met the team the first meeting. Well, okay,
so the thing that you hear any Read says says
all the time, and you hear players, I think, and
you hear players call this as well. What any Read
does so well, in my opinion, is he really allows
players to be themselves. And you hear him say this
a lot. He says all the time, like I want

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you guys to show your personalities. Like he wants players
to be themselves. He wants players to to to play
their their game. He wants he wants players to show
what they can do on the field because in the end,
like that's how you're going to win is by playing
your best style of football. And I think that's what
what says Andy Read apart like he's not trying to

(01:27:20):
make you be something you're not, but you also want
you to play within the system. And he said like
like like be yourself, like show show me your personality
on the field. A lot of coaches just aren't just
don't do that. A lot of coaches like to want
you to be like I want you to be you
know what what what their version of you? Right? And
anybody doesn't want you to do He want you to
be you, and I think that goes a long way

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with players. Yeah, And it's funny because I think there
are certain coaches that come there would have said in
their mind what system they want, and sometimes you have
to adapt that a personnel. You have to create a system.
You just can't walk in there and say, I want
to do what I did in Philadelphia and he read
coach the Eagles, I want to do what I did
they I'm gonna bring it over here. No, you can't
do that necessarily because you don't have the personnel that

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maybe they had, and you couldn't do it. Donovan McNabb
was a different quarterback than what you had in Kansas City, right,
And he read, he lets his he show his He
lets his players show their personnel on the field, and
that mathest itself and obviously a lot of winning the Chiefs.
It's amazing. I mean, in your mind, what separates Andy

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Reid from other coaches you played for. Was he that
good in preparation and scouting motivation? I mean to me again,
it's it's the attention in detail that he has and
the way he teaches everything is so precise and there's
so much kind of attention to like the little tiny
detail or the the the time he kind of installed
screens like himself, the one time he did himself. That

(01:28:48):
to me is just so important, like he just did
it himself. It was it was so important to him.
And but we we still kind of he's still you know,
he still preaches like physicality and toughness and kind of
things that I think at times, you know, we lose
a little bit of football now that we don't hit
as much. I think those things are important to stress.
Any We was just so good at stressing those kind
of important things that we lose um with kind of

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less practice time. Now, how important is it for a
player in the National Football League to be coached by
a guy who's been there and done that, who played
the game, and I mean Bill Belichick didn't play the game.
I'm not sure that. I don't know how much that matters. Um.
I think as long as you believe in your your
what your coach is selling you, um, that's what matters.
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the guy to wear Fox Sports Sunday Fox Sports Ready,
and Jeff, I want to talk a little bit about
Jalen Hurts. Jarylyn Hurts through for three hundred four yards
and a touchdown, raunph for seventy more yards and three touchdowns,
set a Super Bowl record for rushing yards by a
quarterback and tied another for most points in the game
twenty and most rushing touchdowns for three. Jalen Hurts quarterback

(01:30:36):
in the Philadelphia Eagles went twenty seven for thirty eight
three hundred four yards and they lost the game obviously
to Kansas City last week. But am I alone, I
think Jalen Hurts should have won the game. M v P. Well,
you're not giving the MVP t belie to the losing quarterback.
But yeah, I mean he was the best part of
the field. I would imagine on on Sunday, Um, you know,

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I think the tough part was that fumble was obviously
a pretty big only game, right is funnily um on
on that third down play there, um after the false
start on the touch push play that it was unsuccessful.
So that I think was a big part of it
is that you end up getting a situation where you know,
the really the the unforced error. But he was the

(01:31:18):
best player of the field. He was fabulous the entire game,
and I think in the biggest moment of his career
he played his best game. And I think that you
have to look at that if you're an Eagles fan
and Eagles you know front office member is like the
best sign you know yet of the possible success you
can have long term. What Jone hurt is your quarterback.

(01:31:39):
There's no doubt about that. But the Eagles have a
lot of players going up in uh free agents. Yeah,
one of free agents coming up Kelsey, this center, Brandon Graham,
Fletcher Cox, I think is Sanders, James, Bradberry, Gardner, Johnson.
So I think these these guys, uh gonna be hitting
the bank pretty good and uh, Eagles gonna make some
big time of decisions certainly. Yeah, They're gonna have a

(01:32:02):
decision to make on a lot of these guys. And
you know, it's interesting to see kind of where their
team goes now with making up some of these roster decisions.
You know, this is and this thing about Kansas City
is they're able to do all this after paying their quarterback,
which is really hard to new. And the Eagles have
to make those decisions now, Okay, where do we where
do we allow Candle our money too? We haven't paid
our quarterback yet. This is this makes the decision very

(01:32:23):
tough on you know, they have to make Joan Hurts obviously.
When we understand that, it's now you know, how do
you build your team around him? They have draft picks
to use, which is which is important. I mean, not
many teams have two first round draft picks after making
a Super Bowl. They have two of them, and so
let's playing opportunity now to hit. Look, you have to
do it right. The Chiefs have hit on their draft
picks the last two years. This is also what the

(01:32:45):
Eagles have to do as well. The good news is
for the Eagles, I mean the division they play is
one of the weaker ones in the in the National
Football League. So I think they still could be competitive.
I mean, who don't have to worry about the Giants? Maybe,
I mean Dallas, perhaps Washington. I don't think so. So
I think they're in pretty good shape. Do you know
My favorite NFL trend is do you know the last

(01:33:09):
the last time last season there was a repeat winner
in the NFC East? What was that? Two four? Really,
there's not been a repeat winner in that division. There's
been three Super Bowl champions in that division twice, the
Giants and the Eagles. There's not been a repeat winner
in that division's two dozen four. They've had a couple

(01:33:30):
of division winners with losing records too. Uh, I think
they had a couple of seven and nins two years
ago they did for sure, right it was the UM two. Yeah,
the Eagles one two years ago, seven and one. So, um,
you know that just the Eagles. The Eagles winn the
division next year would be would be something that hasn't
been done since oh three or four, I think was

(01:33:51):
the Eagles back then as well. Um, and uh, it's
just tough to sustain winning. And the Eagles are definitely
have a system that works. There are aggressive coaches haff
which I like, they're built in the trenches. As you
mentioned though, you know f your Cox I would imagine,
and Brandon Graham might end up moving on or retiring. Um,
but that's why you you bring your Redding, That's why

(01:34:12):
you draft Jos Sweat, so you're bringing Hardgrave like you
have these different options available for you. Jason Kelsey will
see what he does. But you you drafted Cole Jurgen's
to play center. You drafted uh Landa Dickerson recently. And
this is the way you build your team up right.
You gotta you gotta hit these draft picks. But let
me put you on the spot. Say you're a member

(01:34:32):
of the Eagles, okay, and you're a free agent. Is
it better to go and get a little more money
or to stay on a winning situation where you guys
got something going. I mean, what do you do if
it's your second if it's your first big contract, you
have to get the money. I can't advise you to
do otherwise. Um, you know, if you're if you're like

(01:34:54):
a quarter, if you're if you're Patrick Mahomes, you can
take a little bit less money, like you could take
four were the emillions instead of forty five million, because
you're gonna make that up in endorsements, right, and it
helps your team win. But if it's if it's, if you're,
if you're Isaac um uh smallow the right guard, right,
he's a third repick in of organ state. You get
every single penny you can get in any deal as

(01:35:17):
a free agent. You don't know this is your last
big contract. You absolutely do not take a hometown discount
to stay with the Eagles, right, Like, you get every
penny possible. This is this is your opportunity to make
your family and your family's family and your family lifetime wealth.
So you go get every penny you can. You hope

(01:35:38):
it's with a winning team. You hope if you go
to a team that is a loser, that you're able
to to to to to help that team end up
being a championship team. But you absolutely get every time
you can get. Now if it's your third contract, right
like if you are a free agent, but this is
your third contract, Okay, maybe take a little bit less

(01:36:01):
money because you've already made that that that generational wealth
and you're in you're kind of at the point now
where you're looking towards, you know, trying to win a
championship part of your career more than you are the
making money part of your career. And those can be
at the same you can also make money and also
trying to win a championship at the same time. But um,
and then obviously again you then kind of look for okay,

(01:36:22):
well you know, we'll we'll take a little bit less
you know, to help you win a championship. But if
some of these players man get your money, do not
take less money. Um, when there's when there's bigger deals
on the table for you. I understand the money askeet.
I also understand the fact that you could be only
one hit the way that you'll never play again because
you gotta get it what you can. But there's something

(01:36:42):
inside me that says, look, you've got something good over
here going you want to keep it rolling. You know,
how many cars do you really need? You told about money,
I mean, how much do you need? But again, like,
look someone, I was hurt many times in as the
first starter in NFL history to be an injured reserve
twice in one sea and all right, so like I
know a lot about paying hurt um and that was like,

(01:37:07):
you just you never know when it's going to be done,
and I think it would be foolish to take far
less money to stay somewhere, especially when there's no guarantee
your getting back to Bowl next year. Like like like
if you're the Chiefs and you're a free agent, like
if you're Andrew Wiley, you're the right tackle, you're a
free agent. And let's say that that you're being offered, Um,

(01:37:33):
let's do round numbers. Let's say you're getting a deal
five years, fifty million dollars, okay from someone, And let's
say that the guarantee and the lattin is two years.
So i's really a two year deal for twenty million
dollars from from the Chiefs okay. And another team. Let's
say the Texans are offering you two years and twenty
two million dollars guaranteed. Okay, but I think you stay

(01:37:56):
with the Chiefs right in situation. Okay, that, but that's
a very specific to Like, Okay, I'm a two time
super Bowl champion. If I stay in Kansas City, I'm
forfeiting a little bit of money. But I have, of
course endorsement opportunities in Kansas City. You know, I can,
you know, eat for free in Kansas City. Like I

(01:38:16):
have kind of a life set up here with two
super Bowl championships, plus I can earn more championships as
we go and winning stay in Kansas City and winning
might lead to another contract, another contract. But if you're
getting instead of two years twenty million dollars, some teams
offering you two years thirty million dollars, you have to
take the money. Scratching his head like why did I go?

(01:38:41):
But he's but for Tyreek Hill though he's won a
super Bowl at least so he can he's won that championship. Um,
so I think he's okay with his decision. I think
if you if you had not one, then I think
that decision looks looks more foolish, you know. And the
funny thing is, like the question is did Tyree Hill
make Patrick Whomes, that Patrick Mahomes make Tyreek killed. We

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saw last year that it was not to me. To
me and I have said this for years, the most
important player is Travis Kelsey. Um he is. He's more
important than anyone UM on that roster outside of Patrick Mahomes.
And why do you say that? Because because he he
does things on the field that you cannot teach. And

(01:39:25):
his connection with Mahomes is um is you you can't
teach what they do to with each other, Like that
sounds naughty, you you can't. Like there are times I
watch film and I play a game of like was

(01:39:46):
this the called route or did Travis Kelsey just do
something on his own? And Travis and and Pat Holmes
made him right? Like they have a lot of option
routes where he just kind of Travis just finds the
open part of the defense and Mahomes knows what that's
going to be and they're sync up together and make
it work. That you can't teach that, and that's under

(01:40:08):
it's indefensible. There's no defense for that type of there's
no there's no defense for that. I'll leave you with this,
what would Travis be as good as he is if
he didn't have Patrick Mahomes, Um, I think he'd be
a Hall of Famer, but not maybe the best of
all time without Mahomes. Now and you're saying he used

(01:40:28):
the best of all time. Forget about Gronk. I think
by the end of it, he very well could be.
And I would say the best pass catching tight end
of all time. I think it'd be, you know, the
blocking part of it, with the way Gronk was able
to block through his entire career. People forget Charles Kelsey
was was a really good blocker early in his career.
He doesn't do that anymore. Um, but best pass catching
tight end. I don't know how you argue otherwise. I mean,

(01:40:50):
what's the argument otherwise it there's no there's no argument.
He's Jeff Schwartz, So Andy Firman. We are Fox Sports
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as a dreamer, and we could call the other players soft.
That snatch the first of all, the man who was
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the money, though, I'm with Jeff on this one. Always

(01:41:13):
do it always At NBA All Star Saturday, Hey mc McClung.
Maybe he's gonna have more money coming his way, as
he won the Slam Dunk Contest just days after the
Philadelphia seventy sixer signed him on a two way contract.
He's got the Gate City Jersey on over his seventy
Sixers Jersey, a team he signed with less than a
week ago, and he might just win the Slam Dunk.

(01:41:34):
Here he is Fitch being a bit more and he
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Tiger Wood shot at four under sixty seven and the
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Only one upset in the top twenty five yesterday that

(01:42:17):
was Kentucky beating number ten Tennessee in Lexington. And then
elsewhere you at the Marquee game of the day that
saw number five Kansas A race a thirteen point halftime
deficit a runaway from number nine Baylor in the end
eight seven seventy one. Rest of the top ten, number
one Alabama, number four u c l A had dominating wins,
narrow wins for number six Texas and number seven Virginia.

(01:42:38):
Number eight Arizona also a winner in the NHL had
the Stadium Series game played at NC States Football Stadium
and the host Carolina Hurricanes dispatched the Capitol's four till
one and reports a Britney Griner is set to return
to the w NBA this season, signing a one year
deal with the Phoenix Mercury. Let's go back to Andy
Furman and Jeff Schwartz. Thank you so much, Nick. We'll

(01:42:59):
see you short. Okay. Let's talk a little bit about
a quarterback, Jeff, if we can, I'll tell about his
offense and offense he had Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs rushed
for over sixteen hundred yards. Davante Adams over fifteen yards
receiving defense Max Crosby eighty nine tackles. So my question
is what went wrong with Vegas quarterback Derek Carr? Why

(01:43:19):
is he being shipped out of Vegas? Besides the money
aspect because he went well over three thousand yards yards
D S fourteen nine and T s and I understand
why they let him go and the Jets Are you
kidding me? Behind that weak offensive line and class by receivers.
I don't think so. I mean, I think it's a

(01:43:39):
big launch for the Vegas ball club that Derek Carr
is gone. So when there is a new general manager
and new head coach, uh, the quarterback that is in
place in that you know, typically gets gets shipped off
pretty quickly. Um, it's just not unless they're like, you know,

(01:44:01):
on the Hall of Fame type player, right. But there's
just they just weren't you know, compatible like this, Josh
McDaniels and Derek Carr. The personalities they just they didn't mesh.
And um, you know the stories you know kind of
have come out that you know, Josh McDaniels is kind
of you know the Belichick mold of you know, call

(01:44:21):
calling guys out. And because everyone out, not just Derek Carr,
Carls everyone out on the team. He's kind of you know,
he's gonna he's not he's gonna hold everyone accountable in
that way. And you know, car might not like to
style might not have we've gone along with him in
that way and just it didn't work out and now
he's a freege. And I think the the Raiders might

(01:44:45):
have overplayed their hand that. I think they thought they
were getting Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. Obviously he's still
had a possible gey. How do you build a team
with a guy like Tom Brady who's forty five and
Aaron Rodgers thirty nine coming off a week Ye, well,
you're you You're just open for you know, one or
two years success, right, you're hoping for a flash in
the pan. You're hoping for um, it's not the It's

(01:45:07):
why the Raiders stink. I mean, it's why they don't win,
right like you, it is there no surprise that the
teams that lose the most the NFL typically have bad ownership,
right like they just they they're just not well run,
no plan. We have the Jets. You're gonna sign Derek? Really?
I mean the Jets have not had a quarterbacks is
Joe Naman. The Jets offensive line is when healthy is

(01:45:30):
pretty good. I think they're just never healthy. I think
they all come back healthy. They're gonna be fine. Brace
Hall healthy, you know, Okay, wide receivers are bad. Defense
is you know Derek car would be best defensive he
ever played with. I just I think that the Raiders
just don't have a plan and they're kind of stuck
in no man's land where you're like, well, we're not
bad enough to really get a quarterback in the draft,

(01:45:51):
and we don't want to be bad again next season
because then Josh Mdanwells will be fired. Um, and you know,
let's get a but Aaron Rodgers. I mean, what does
Aaron Rodgers do for that team? Are they playoff team?
Are we sure they're a playoff team in that division
with Aaron Rodgers? I don't know. I'm ancertain about that.
It really is crazy. I mean, and I don't know.
If you're a general manager, you've got to be out

(01:46:12):
of your mind not to go for a quarterback at
any expense, even if it's a crapshoot with a draft,
because it's the only sport where that one position means
so much. There's no position in any sport. Maybe pitching
in baseball, but they got they got a rotation of
four or five guys. But there's no position in any
sport that is a dominant or as important as a

(01:46:32):
quarterback in football. Oh, you're right. Well, it's the most
important position in all sports and you have to get
it right. But the tough part about in the NFL
is there's really really only one way to get it right,
and that's draft or quarterback. Right, Um, you know, very
rarely do you get you know, Tom Brady's you're going
to Tampa Bay for a single season, right, and when
a championship he was there three years, right? Or you know,

(01:46:53):
or Peyton Manning getting a neck injury and ending up
in in you know, in Denniver to win a championship,
most of the time, your quarterback that wins you a
championship is drafted. Right. And if that's the case, why
why is the Ravens sitting on Lamar Jackson? Because what's
the alternative if they don't there? Well, so this is
where the Shawn Watson deal screw the rest of the
NFL teams right now, not for the players obviously, but

(01:47:14):
for the rest of the team. So Shaun Watson's two
or thirty million dollars guaranteed, this whole contract guaranteed. Well,
if you're Lamar Jackson, you say, well, a, I'm a
good human right, confused of nothing. B m v P
one the m v P. See, you guys can't win
without me. We've made that very clear. I want two

(01:47:38):
hundred and thirty one million dollars guaranteed. I want more
than Shawn Watson. The Ray. It's like, yeah, we're not
doing that, and it's very clear by the way, the
rest of the NFL said, yeah, we're not giving anyone
that de Shaun Watson deal, like we're not. Normally, the
next guy up just gets x dollars more than the
last guy who got the current deal, right, So like,

(01:47:59):
if you you get one million dollars and I'm up next,
I get one point one million dollars, right, Like that's
sort of the way these contracts work. Well, after Shawn
Watson was Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson and neither got
remotely close to two or thirty million dollars guaranteed. So
veryone's like, yeah, we're not doing that, we're not giving
you that money, and lamar I was like, no, well,

(01:48:19):
I'm not doing a deal then, And so either either
you split the difference. You say, we'll give you one
a D basically from one thirty and two thirties right
in the middle. Boom, we'll give you in the middle.
But if you're the Ravens, I understand the apprehension the
last two seasons, your quarterback has not finished healthy. I
understand them saying, yeah, you do you think he didn't
finish because he wanted to approve to them that they

(01:48:40):
couldn't win without him. Well, that's a good question. So
I think I think a couple of things are true.
I think he was really hurt. I think he was hurt.
I think if he was under contract, he would have
tried to play in the final, in the playoff game,
it might not have gone well for him, by he
would have tried to play. But I think he was
legitimately hurt. I don't think he was healthy, and I
don't he had I don't think he had gotten healthy

(01:49:02):
decided to sit out as a healthy football player. But
it's definitely if he was under contracts he would have
tried to play the playoff game hurt if that makes sense, right,
um so, uh, but like nonetheless though he would have
missed the last five games or six games anyways, So
the last two years now he's missed the end of
both seasons. If you're the Ravens, you're like, hey, we're

(01:49:23):
not giving you the John Watson til no one's getting
that deal and be you've been hurt the last two years.
We're not paying you all this money for someone who
has not been on the field the last two seasons
to end our end our years and both times, by
the way, the Ravens were number one in the division
when he got hurt and ended up not making the playoffs,
so well, excuse me, they made the players of wild
card team this past season did win the division. Um so,

(01:49:46):
I just that's where the Ravens are at to where
Lamar's at, and there's a middle ground there and the
middle ground seems to not be have been met yet.
We'll see if it gets there and not your franchise
tagam and and you just hope for the best of season.
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and before I figured, I want to thank Jeff Schwartz.
It's been a pleasure working with you today. It really was.

(01:51:12):
I really want to thank you, So I want to
get out of the way before I forget that. And
by the way, top of the hour, my two buds,
Bucky Brooks and Brian no will take you the rest
of the way right here on Fox Sports Radio. But
right now I gotta mention this to you. College Hall
of Famer. My good friend Lincoln Kennedy once told me
the worst thing you can call an athlete is soft.
That's the worst. I can't call him anything worse than that. Soft.

(01:51:35):
May I call Justin Fields soft? The best quarterback says
the wind in cold in Chicago makes it hard for
him to run. Tell that the Big Ben when he
played in Pittsburgh or Tom Brady in New England. Er, Yes,
he said it. Oh, I thought you were mentioned like
how the how they have to change the voting or

(01:51:57):
the selection process for the NBA All Star Games because
they didn't want a player to feel sad about being
the last one picked tonight. I thought that was about
how soft that was? Um, Justin Justin Fields, No, don't
say that man, Why why would you say that? Like,
I don't NBC five in Chicago, he said, it's very

(01:52:19):
difficult to adjust to it, especially with the wind. Does
that mean what does that mean you're running the ball?
I don't. I don't want to. I don't get it.
I get the passing like I get the wind affects
the passing. Yeah, sure that it's very windy there. I
understand that the windy. Splain about the cold. Ever, in
my life, the stadium is is very It's a wind
tunnel there. It's but wow, okay, it's cold. You have

(01:52:43):
to bundle up. I feel way slower in the cold.
It's hought to stay warm in that weather. I mean,
those are all those are all like true, It's all
like it is tougher to stay warm when it's cold outside.
I mean, I'm with you. I just those are things
that like you is an athlete, I just wouldn't complain
out loud about to the public. I don't understand. I mean,

(01:53:06):
but I ask you this. I mean. He brings up
an interesting point. Did guys like Peyton Manning and Sean
Payton have an advantage playing in a dome? Well, of
course I would think so, right, I mean, uh, and
not many people bring that factor up, that there is
an advantage playing in the Dome, especially later in the year.
Tom Brady never complained about playing in New England. I

(01:53:27):
never heard of any quarterback ever complaining about playing in
Cleveland or Green Bay when but you know, but vice versa, right,
So Peyton Manning having to go on the road to
New England in late January, on the road to Pittsburgh.
When you play, you know, a majority of your games inside,
it's different, right for you know, for you know, for

(01:53:51):
for for Drew Brees to have to go on the road,
you know, in January, it's different experience for him than
he that he had season. So for justin fields like that,
that might be good for you, right to have teams
have to come to Chicago late in the season to
play there. Right, if you're the Lions the Vikings having

(01:54:11):
to go outside late in the year, it feels like
a good spot feed to be in, I would think. So.
I think, look, you could feel it, and you know
that's a factor. But to go out and say it publicly,
I think that's bad. I think it's a bad thing.
Unless he's he's pushing to get Chicago to move and
to building a new stadium soon, and they probably want

(01:54:33):
to get a done one too, right, I think I
think they are building a dome. Well that's basically what
he wants. Hopefully it'll be built before he retires. I
don't know. Let me let me end it off with this. Okay,
we have a love affair with football. Be at the NFL. Well,
college football the XFL open this weekend. The country has
that love affair, but why not the XFL. I'm looking

(01:54:54):
at some of the names in the sleep hind Sward,
Rod Woodson, Jim Haslet. These guys are in this. Yeah
they're coaches. Yeah. Um, alright, so here here's my take
on this. Um, football starts. College football starts Labor Day weekend, right,
there's a week zero games the weekend before. So basically
I watched football from Labor Day weekend to nearly President's Day, right,

(01:55:18):
which is tomorrow. Um, So it's a hard sell to
my family and my wife especially, like, hey, hey, kids,
you know what, I'm gonna watch more football after Football's
dog Like I can't do that, right, Like I need
a break from football a little bit, and as I
kind of have to watch some college football just as
far as like getting your draft stuff as well, so

(01:55:40):
like it doesn't Also this sounds, I mean, maybe unfair
for the XFL and to say, but like I don't
have time to watch bad football, Like when I watch
the NFL, I watched most of the NFL games, but
when I watch like film, I typically just watched the
good teams play. When I were on college football, I
I work for Pack twelve and Serious XM, so I

(01:56:02):
un fortunately have to watch all the Pack twelve play,
But like when I watch National Football other teams, I
typically just watch the better teams play. Like I don't
have me personally, I don't have much of a of
a of a personal interest in watching players and watching
like not like bad football play. It's not not no

(01:56:22):
offensive players in the XFL or USFL. And I will
I will watch USFL because I work for Fox Sports
and I will cover. I will cover the sports. But
like I that's why I'm not watching very much of it.
It might be on the background. But like I'm gonna
watch Tiger Woods today, I'm gonna watch Tiger. He's not
gonna win the tournament, but I'm gonna try. I'm gonna
watch him try to have a good round today at

(01:56:43):
the Genesis, like I'm gonna I'd rather watch Tiger Woods.
Be good to watch the the the XFL today. Yeah.
I just think that the people who are running the NHFL,
they thought they could take just jump from the NFL.
The NFL people need a break. That's basically what is.
They need a break and that's what it's all about. Again.
I want to thank you, Jeff. It's been a pleasure.
I hope we could do it against some time. Top

(01:57:04):
of the hour, Bucky Brooks, Briano right here on Fox
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