Fox Football Sunday w/ Andy Furman, Mike Harmon, & Jason Fitz!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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He couldn't stay away, He had to come back, the
guy himself, he's here in person, living color. Jason Fitz
for Bucket Brooks JF.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
How you doing, No, I'm living the dream. I've just
been a whole Saturday watching the chaos that is this
year's college football season. Now gonna hang out with you.
It doesn't get any better than this. Is the best
way to start a Sunday, even better than London games.
Me you hanging out.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know what, Obviously people may be blurry eyed right
now and they find out that USC stays unbeaten late
last night on the East Coast forty three forty one
triple overtime over hours. Okay, that's a biggie, But how
come and tell me what's wrong with me? How come?
The first thing I look for is what did Colorado do?
That's what Deon Sanders has done to me. The first

(01:10):
thing I do is say, hey, did Colorado win? And
they did? They beat Arizona State by a hare twenty
seven to twenty four with a field goal with twelve
seconds to go.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, because a sensation has been created. I mean, the
fact is I opened this morning, Twitter X whatever we're
calling it. One of the first things I see is
Shader Sanders celebrating in front of the Arizona State fans
and people polarized on whether or not that's the acceptable
behavior when you barely beat a bad football team, and
it's like, do you not know the identity of what
Colorado is going to be? And I don't know if

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we lost?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Everybody?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Do you got me?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'm there, I hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Right now, look at the glory of this, OK, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
All I want to do is this. I mean, we're
talking about Deon Sanders what he's created right now, and
there's no doubt in my mind he has and I
think it's a great thing for college football, and I
think he's good. I have people downgridding, the guys in
egomaniac and there's all this the clicks. Nah, he's good.
I see what he has done for these kids. I
see what he's done for women. You know, really, he's
telling these guys on his team, this is the way

(02:07):
you treat a woman. I think everything top to bottom.
He is a wonderful man, he really is. And I
remember when he played for the Cincinnati Reds. He's a
good guy. He just like the pie piper of college football.
That's what he is.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well, and at some point this identity is captivating, and
that's the biggest part of this. To your points, let's
be real here. Colorado surpassed what their expected win total
was last night with a win yesterday with a win, right,
and sure it was over a bad football team, but
the expectation was that Colorado would be a bad football team.
They're not. And what you have now is a pretty
good football team and a cultural phenomenon. And you can

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bind those two things, you've got something different. You know,
it's it's going to continue to be a story every
single week because people want to know what Dion's going
to do, what Dion's going to say, how Deon's going
to react, and then through the course the course of that,
people are going to be paying more and more attention
to the athletes that are playing for it. This is
a win win, frankly, if it gets eyeballs, if he

(03:02):
gets attention, it's a win in my mind.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
No doubt about that. You talk about number one, who's
going to be number one? And certainly I think that
people were kind of scratching ahead about Georgia. Are they
really number one? They had a look, they were double
digit deficits in the games that they played against South
Carolina and Auburn. You know, I live in the Great State,
the Great Commonwealth that is of Kentucky. I'm thinking maybe
maybe there's a chance to wildcats a Kentucky could take Georgia.

(03:26):
Oh my goodness, I mean Georgia came out of the gate.
It was unbelievable, thirty three fourteen. Kentucky was thrashed last night.
There really were. And maybe it's about them like a
wake up call. I mean, South Carolina and Auburn not
great football teams, and Georgia basically is a defending champ
two times and now they come out there with people
questions in their mind, should they be number one? Boom

(03:47):
they come out there and they roll over Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Now, I think the questions coming in were fair because
they hadn't put four quarters together, and because Auburn did
run the ball on them, and because a week ago
we saw who I'm now nicknaming sweet Baby Ray Davis
go off two hundred and eighty yards a week ago
for Kentucky running. So like, remember when we were kids
and in math you had to do the work. You
couldn't just write the answer, you had to show the
process of how you got there. I understand the process

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of how we get to Well. Georgia doesn't look like
the number one team in the country until last night.
And last night was the exact reminder of the best
of what Georgia can be. I mean, they're more talented,
they're better coach, they're deeper, they can beat you a
million different ways, and they have a couple of the
best players in the country. So it's not rocket science
that they would be sitting where they are. We just
hadn't seen it yet, right, So when we're all sitting

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here waiting saying, my god, just put it together, Georgia, Okay,
they did. They answered that question. Let's see if they
can continue to do that throughout the course of the year.
But frankly, I'm stunned that it took this long to
get the best of Georgia. I'm glad we got the
best of Georgia. But realistically, if you're Kentucky, you felt
like you were coming into this game and maybe you
had a fighter's chance, and you were reminded there was

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a glorious difference between being Georgia and being Kentucky. Still
in the football room, yeah, in.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
The football world, there you go. Not that skiple up
on football Day AGOA let's talk about maybe I guess
you could call them maybe America's team. I don't know,
tenth rank, Notre Dame. You know, if it wasn't for
that coach, you can't count to eleven. He had ten
guys on the field against Ohio State several weeks ago
and they lose seventeen fourteen. That would have been a
huge win, huge win for the fighting Irish. Then they
come back they beat Duke, you know, a gutsy win

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twenty one to fourteen. But yesterday last night in Louisville,
thirty three twenty losing to Louisville. Louisville now six to
zero in year one. Over the guy who brought them back.
He's going to bring up back the fame. Jeff Brom.
He's back there right now, and what a turnaround. He
could very well be Coach of the Year.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
This is also one of those great moments where Jeff
Brom goes to a place that he loves and it
feels like it's a natural fit. Right Like that's we
talked about Dion's identity earlier. Jeff Brom knows the identity
of Louisville football. And frankly, three straight weeks we've sat
here and we have gone into primetime watching Notre Dame.
The last two weeks, the games were very close. It
was tight for Notre Dame. This is a season you

(06:00):
went in knowing that you couldn't take a big loss
to Louisville. You couldn't take a loss if you're Notre
Dame at this point and you get run out of
the building. Sam Hartman was just wildly inefficient, too many
turnovers throughout the course of this game. I was a
little stunned to see that Notre Dame didn't look like
they were cleaner in this one, and Louisville came in
and said, hey, we're undefeated, but we're also, by the way,
really good. We can score on anybody. And I'm sitting

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here dumbfound it because all I hear and all I
know is that Notre Dame's supposed to be able to
run the ball, and when they really needed to last night,
they couldn't do it for anything. So I'm a little
surprised to see Notre Dame season go up in flames
that way, because that's right, it's kiss of death.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
They're done, Yeah, they really are. I'll tell you who's
not done is Oklahoma right now? Really and surely they
had the Red River rivalry yesterday. And if you look
at what happened in the second year coach Brett Venables.
Last year, they had wins over Oklahoma State, they had
wins over Kansas. Both those teams were sub five hundred
a year ago. He needed to prove something. They were
up five and zero this year and they come up

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to number twelve in the rankings and go against number
three Texas a huge win thirty four to thirty in
Dallas yes day in the Cotton Bowl, And the way
it ended was unbelievable. Dylan Gabriel a game winning drive
for the as soon as right now, in about a
minute fifteenth to go. And truly you could say, maybe,
maybe if Gabriel wasn't injured a year ago, they would
have beaten Texas last year. But a great turnaround for

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a great program which is Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, and I think there was sneaky pressure on Oklahoma
coming into this year because, as you mentioned, venables underperformed
a little bit last year. We all know they're going
to the SEC. It felt like you had to go
into the SEC with a little bit of momentum. I
was really curious what this game would look like, and
to your point, I thought it was over. I mean,
Burt Auburn. The only thing better than Bert's hair the
kicker for Texas is a kick he made with about

(07:43):
a minute and a half to go. I was sitting
there with a bunch of buddies. We were watching a
bunch of college football. Everybody was chanting his name in
this area, and I was like, Okay, all right, let's
see Bert do it. And he did and then all
of a sudden, with no timeouts. I mean, really, the
most important, pressive part of what Dylan Gabriel did in
that last drive is no timeouts, went down the field,
and I just I'm gonna keep saying this till I'm
blue in the face. This is a reminder of how

(08:05):
good the Chancefer Portal can be for college football because
Dylan Gabriel is somebody that's played a lot of football, right,
He's seen a lot of football, and you can tell
at the end like quarterbacks that have been through it
are performing at a high level. And I just I
loved watching that for Dylan Gabriel going all the way
down the field getting that game winning touchdown. Heartbreaking for Texas.
We can now say Texas is back to breaking hearts

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and not being great. But also at the same time,
I'm not eliminating Texas from this conversation. They're gonna get
a chance to run the rest of all the way
through this season. They'll get a chance to get the
Big Twelve championship game. They could get the chance in
Oklahoma again. And this is what the Committee loves always
call a quality loss, right Like this is gonna be
one of those things where Texas is still in it.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, you're right about that. You know, people talk about
USC and they talk about, you know, the Achilles Shield
for that team is their defensive lot thereof I don't care.
I want to see points. I'm one of those guys
I love when they run it up, and they did yesterday.
It's unbelieved that a triple overtime game USC did. Caleb Williams,
he rushes for three touchdowns, then he ran a two
point conversion in the third overtime nine rank USC Scott Arizona.

(09:12):
And that really in the last attempt in the forty
three to forty one victory late Saturday night, early Sunday
morning on the East Coast. And look, he's the defending
Heisman winner. He's probably gonna win it again. And again
they talk about the lack of defense. So what I'll
score them and that's what they're doing. It's an unbelievable program.
What the turnaround over there for us see what they've

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done as tremendous it really is.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I would be all in on talking about the lack
of defense if we wanted to talk about the fatal
flaws for most of the teams in the top ten,
like this is not our usual college football year where
somebody's dominant and you're trying to figure out how are
they going to compete with that team? Right, Like, we
have seen fatal false other than Michigan, but Michigan really
hasn't played anybody other than Michigan. I think we've seen
weakness from basically every team at some point this season.

(09:57):
Is there defensive issue in the playoffs, maybe, but for
right now, when you have clearly the best quarterback in
college football, you have clearly the best player, Like, we
don't need to make this complicated. Catle Williams is the
best player in college football and should win the Heisman again, Like,
I don't think that's a hot take. What's funny to
me is that twice this year already, USC has fallen
in the rankings on the rankings after they've struggled against

(10:18):
a division or a conference opponent. What's interesting to me
to see is how are they going to react to
this one? Because I think there's a grace and forgiveness
given to for example, Georgia is struggling to beat Auburn
because there's benefit of the doubt given to Georgia. That
same benefit of the doubt has to come at some
point to the fact that USC's finding a way to
win these games. And they can score on absolutely anybody
from anywhere you.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Exactly right now, Now tell me if I'm wrong, big Les. Look,
I'm not the smartest guy in the world. Maybe the
dumbest guy. Really. You know, I'm seeing myself right now
enjoying college football, maybe more so than the NFL. And now, look,
I've always liked college football, but I think the games
obviously more meaningful, I think, and it wasn't a great
slate yesterday. But when I go back and look with

(11:00):
they're putting gun Thursday night on NFL, I mean, I'd
rather watch a rerun movie. It's disgusting Chicago, Washington. I mean,
who's picking these games on Thursday night for Amazon? And
Al Michaels must be throwing up his halftime meal. Really,
it's ridiculous. But look, I know yesterday's games, it wasn't
a great day for college football, but the games that
were on the Red River rivalry was great. I mean

(11:21):
even I turned on the Ohio State Maryland. This score
was seventeen all and then Ohio State pulls away thirty
seven to seventeen some turnovers from Maryland. So you know,
maybe I'm wrong, but I think the college football thing
to me. If I had a choice and someone said, look,
you could only watch one day of the week, I
think I might go to Saturday.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Here's the interesting thing. Did you mentioned about that? Because
you know, I've split so much of my time between
Connecticut and Nashville and lived in Nashville for twenty plus years, right,
and when I'm up in Connecticut and I sit down
to watch college football, there's just not a viber and
energy next to it because, like so many people that
live in that area just don't care. So you'll walk
into it. I did a couple of weeks ago, walked

(11:58):
into a sports bar on a sad Saturday just to
watch a bunch of games, to grab a bite to eat.
Figured it was a good atmosphere to be and I
walked in and there might have been ten people in there.
I walked in yesterday to a house of Buddies and
there were probably forty people sitting in there, all just
watching football, didn't matter what the game is. Between you know,
gambling and between conference affiliations and between favorite teams, there's

(12:19):
a there's a sense of community around college football. But
I'll be the first to admit I may have experienced
more of it because I was back in a college
football area, Like the South loves college football, and it
doesn't really matter who's playing. It's more about everybody hanging
out and who's grilling the stakes, and who's eating what,
and what you're doing together as a group of buddies
watching college football. That made it special. But I thought

(12:40):
yesterday was a just a great game, a day of
game after game after game that felt like it meant
something all the way into the fourth quarter. Of the
NFL is doing the opposite. Like the NFL's given me
blowouts that are close in the witching hour, college football
is giving me two and a half hours of a
good game that may separate at the very end.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, you know if it bugs me on college football.
So you'll have back to back or games simultaneously, and
I don't know which one to watch, and I'm talking
to buddies of mine. They're telling me they got three
TVs and ours. I mean, it's ridiculous. I mean, come on,
you watch one game with one TV on that' shit.
But that's what they do. I mean, you go to
a sports bar a watch one game.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
You can't one TV?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, I got more on one TV in my house,
But I watched one game on one TV. That's what
I do. I'll flip back and forth a little bit,
but I just can't do I want to concentrate on one.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Look if I go to a sports bar and they
got like thirty five televisions, you know, and the sound
is down and everybody's screaming, so I can't watch a
game there. I just don't do that. I don't do it.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, I'm a four TV guy on Saturdays. I'm a
four TV really, you know. Yeah, you gotta have four
TV so you can bounce back and forth and you know,
if you've got it, especially if you're using it on
a PlayStation or any sort of device like that, you
can just use your controller to go side and side side,
and it's moving the sound from thing to things. So
like it. Fully, I'm I'm all over the place on Saturday,
Like I know, I'm gonna try.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm gonna do it a Jason fitzwks next week, I'm
gonna do it. I'm gonna got three I got three
TVs and line them up. I watch three game. I
mean I will, I'll see if I could do it.
I'm not that smart. I'm tired. I can't concentrate. Really,
I wouldn't look. It takes me a half hour to
find out what channel the games are on. Really, I mean,
so I got some problems. Really, I got issues. I
got more issues in the magazine stand. Really, I got issues.

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I tell you, what are you gonna do? There you go?
Oh boy, there we go? So look, if Colorado's on,
I'll watch Colorado. It's the first Saturday in four weeks
that they didn't do the pregame show, the the noon
shows from campus from Colorado. It's crazy. Really, they'll be
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Speaker 2 (16:06):
Not a good time to meet this team that's coming
up next on Foxlive from the ti Raq dot com studios.
He's Jason Fitzim Andy Furman, and we got Fox Football
Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, and of course let's go
back to Thursday if we can. We mentioned how bad
the game was, but honestly, I felt a little bit
of relief because this Justin Fields is getting killed by

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the media, by the fans, everybody else, and maybe rightfully so,
because when a team loses, they point the finger at
the quarterback end of the coach. But the Bears did
beat the Washington Commander's forty twenty and basically it was
the end of a fourteen game losing Street. The last
time the Bears won a game October twenty fourth, twenty
twenty two. So they come back, they win, and djmore
and Justin Fields got the job done. And maybe it

(16:49):
was the guards of Dick Buckis he passed on that
day and the game was in fact together in Washington.
But still I think maybe number fifty one had something
to do with the Bears win.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I believe in that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, you know, you've got those magical moments. That's why
sometimes sports are better than movies, right, Like, who needs
reality TV? The original reality TV is just watching sports, right,
So it feels like those things always align. But I'm
with you in the sense that for Chicago there's a
sigh of relief. And I think the most interesting thing
is what it looks like after what we now call
the mini by right, Like, you get that little extra

(17:24):
time off, but you got the monkey off your back
and you got the win. What does this team look
like now? Is there sort of a collective side where
they can play loose and they can play fun and
they can keep this going. I don't know. But what
we do know is it's two straight games where Justin
Fields has played well. It's two straight games where it
looks like offensively they've turned a corner. So if you're Chicago,
if you're a Bears fan right now, maybe you have

(17:44):
a little bit of hope. You got to get figured
out quickly, because I think everybody's so busy salivating over
can we get Caleb Williams next year? But right now,
your question shouldn't be here. We're doing a full organizational reset.
The question is do we actually have the guys here
that can win as football games? And that's more important
figure out today.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I think the biggest question coming away from that game
right now is a I thought Washington was a better team,
but they lost a number two after they started two
and Oh the Commanders, Eric b Enemy was being praised
as the offensive coordinator of the year. What does this
do for his coaching resume? This guy is like begging
for a head coaching job, can't seem to get it.
And now what happens with this Washington offense? And look,
I understand that he doesn't have much to work with,

(18:22):
but still in all, the two and OHO start and
they didn't really play anybody. They played at Arizona and Den
for the first two games. But still I don't think
this does anything good for his resume.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, and I would push back a little bit that
they don't have great things for him to work with,
because I'm not sure Sam Howe is going to be
a golden god. But when you look at the weapons
they have there, there is some expectation that they got
receivers they can play, they got running backs that they
are good. They've got skilled position players that I think
we all expected the Enemy to make interesting. So I
think you're right one hundred percent that the success will

(18:52):
be overvalued and the failure will be overvalued if either
happens for Eric the Enemy with Washington, and realistically, everything
that the commanders are doing right now is sort of
an audition for what they're going to look like next
year with new ownership. So I'm curious and new coaches,
entire staff, right yeah, like what does this staff look like?
So is Ron Rivera still there next year? Is Eric
the Enemy the future head coach? Or are they doing

(19:14):
a full reset? Like there's just this thing can go
off the rails quickly for Washington.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Right now, I mentioned coming up to the segment, not
a good time to meet this team. I'm talking about
this Giants Dolphins game. Giants are coming off at twenty
four to three home loss to Seattle. The Dolphins got
punked in Buffalo forty eight to twenty. So right now
you got the Giants, you know, back one foot in
the grave. The Dolphins kind of can't wait, probably get
back on the ball field. Miami got some injuries to

(19:39):
the safety position. But Daniel Jones, I mean, they've invested
so much money in this guy, and I don't think
it's a great investment.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
And they're stuck at this point. You know, the hardest
part is if you want to compete against a team
like the Dolphins, you better be able to control the
line of scrimmage, You better be able to win time
of possession. You got to be able to keep that
offense off the field. Nobody other than the Bills apparently
are going to be able to slow down that offense
most of the time, so you got to keep them
off the field. I don't know how the Giants sustained

(20:06):
drives and as much as we were just talking about,
you know, the shine on Eric b Enemy, Let's be
real here, the shine on and Brian Dabole has shifted
quickly and this is just what happens in the NFL.
I think the Giants exceeded expectations last year. And if
you inject truth, seer them into the veins of everybody
that watched them last year, I think you'd hear a
lot of people say, yeah, they probably weren't as good

(20:27):
as we thought, and you could tell that, but it
was such a good story. Nobody wanted to see that.
The problem with that is when you exceed expectations one year,
if all you do the next year is regress back
to where you should be as a team, you're suddenly
viewed as an epic failure. And that's exactly what's happening here.
I mean, they were in a weird situation with Daniel Jones.
What do you do with that contract? How do you
give yourself more time? How do you pay a contract

(20:49):
that it seems like it could, at least long term,
be reasonable. It was only a few months ago Giants
fans were screaming at me that they'd figured it out
because they had their quarterback and their running back were
both going to be back this year, and it meant
they could run it back. And now all of a sudden,
what we're watching is they're running into a wall and
none of it looks good, and it looks more like
what we expected the Giants to look like last year.
So I think part of it is who they are

(21:11):
this year, but part of it's also that they looked
so good last year. Unexplicably at times, inexplicably at times.
This is what you end up with.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Jason fitz I want to let you know that I
listened to you because you mentioned early on today that
the NFL is nothing more than a great soap opera. Okay,
and really to prove your point, I mean, two weeks ago,
what was it, Miami goes over to Denver, the host Denver.
Actually they've beat seventy to twenty, puts seventy up on
the board. Last week they lose forty eight twenty at Buffalo,
and I think I after putting up seven, everybody you

(21:40):
know put their hands up saying, all right, it's Miami
this year. It's their team. They going through the super Bowl,
and then all of a sudden, now they're pushed back
a little bit with Buffalo. So you just don't know
what to get two week, which makes the league really good.
The questions are so many that you can't answer, and
you can't figure it out. The gamblers can't figure it out.
And that's why it's a great game. It really is.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, it's not great for my wallet though, because I'm
one of those gamblers in there is kicking my butt
this year.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I mean, I just you at Miami over Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Oh yeah, I went Miami over buffal I was confident
Miami was better than Buffalo. I thought it was a
statement like this reminded me of Look, I was a
fat kid that played dodgeball as a kid, right Like
you always get out when you're a fat kid that
played dodgeball. But there are sometimes when you get on
a little heat, you know, you get on a hot streak,
and suddenly like you're playing with the other fat kids
and you think, Okay, I'm pretty good at this dodgeball thing,
and then all of a sudden you walk into the
gym class and you're back with the jocks, and all

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of a sudden, bam, you are humbled. That's what feels
like happened. Like it feels like Miami for a couple
of weeks was getting there, getting all the good fields,
and they were beating up on everybody. They walked into
the gym super confident, and they were reminded that there's
somebody else in their class that's maybe in better shape,
that's maybe you know, better condition, maybe better ready to
handle it, and they just got smacked down because they

(22:49):
ran their mouth. I mean, it's just it felt like
that as you watch the game Buffalo, kudos to them.
I mean, the Bills were my preseason Super Bowl pick,
and I too quickly jumped off that bandwagon for the Dolphins.
Eye oologize, Buffalo, you deserved better for me. I know.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
All I know is this, I want to play you dodgeball,
one on one. That's what I want to do, one
on one.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Dodge I'm not fat anymore, I'm not fad anymore. I'm
still not very you know.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
But you're a little older than you want as a child,
so maybe you can't move as well.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Here's always a neggave.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
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Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, we got a big day of NFL action set
to get going, and Ian rappinboret with some injury updates.
Over nights, Saints quarterback Derek Carr was listened as questionable
with a right shoulder injury. However, he will play today.
He's much better health wise than he was last week
with that ac joint spraying. The Houston Texans will have

(23:56):
a two key offensive players, back Jeramie Tunsul with a
knee injury, and Titus Howard both expected to play. However,
wide receiver John Mitchie they actually also saying he'll also
be good. He's been dealing with an illness. Bengals wide
receiver t Higgins is not expected to play today. He's
got a cracked rib. He's listed as questionable officially. Trey

(24:16):
Hendrickson should be able to play, However, at Chadobi a
woozy he has a back injury. He will be a
game time decision. Bill's pass rusher Von Miller, he tore
his ACL last November has not played since, but he's
been working his way back and he is likely to
make his season debut today against the Jaguars in London. However,
he's expected to be on a pitch count, likely just

(24:38):
playing on third down and obvious pass rushing as situations.
Ravens wide receiver Odell Beckham expected to play today after
spending two weeks treating tendon nightis in his foot. Offensive
tackle Ronnie Stanley and cornerback Marlon Humphrey are also expected
to play Cooper Cup after this. In the first four
weeks of the season with a hamstring injury, he's been

(25:00):
on injured reserve. He's been activated off of it, and
he's expected to make his season debut against the Eagles
without any limitations. The Giant's not expected to have Saquon
Barkley in today's game against the Dolphins. He's still dealing
with a high ankle spray and In some college football
action from Saturday, the day ended on a thrilling no

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USC and Arizona. The Trojans down seventeen to nothing at
one point, but they rallied to force overtime, where the
ninth ranked USC Trojans win a forty three to forty
one in triple overtime. Number ten Notre Dame upset by
number twenty five Louisville thirty three to twenty. Thirteenth ranked
Washington State taken down by UCLA twenty five seventeen, an

(25:42):
absolute stunning finish. In the Georgia Tech Miami game, the
Yellowjackets were down. It was Miami with the ball with
thirty seconds ago, and instead of taking a knee, ran
the ball and fumbled Georgia Tech recovered with seventy four
plays in four yards, including a forty four touchdown forty
four yard touchdown pass with two seconds to go in

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number twenty four. Fresno State taken down on the road
by Wyoming twenty four to nineteen. Back to you guys,
Thank you, Coachy in an hour. Okay, can the rookie
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Speaker 2 (26:51):
Now, let's get back to your Super Bowl team. My friend,
Jason the Bills. They're hosting the Jacks today. The Bills
have outscored their opponents one twenty five to thirty three
over the last three Because that's unbelievable. Three straight blowout
wins for the Bills over Vegas, Washington, and Miami. What
does it mean? I don't know. But Stefan Diggs had
three touchdowns against the Dolphins last week. Let's see what

(27:14):
your Bills can do. They got to run the football,
they really do. They got to run, run, run.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I think the hardest part about the Bills is that
we can't shake what we saw week one because of
the emotion that was behind it. So I'm gonna ask
everybody to do exactly the opposite. Let's remember week one
is week one. What have we seen since Week one?
We've seen a Bills team that looks like they are
just absolutely lockstep all the way across the board. We've
seen a Bills team that looks dominant. And I'm not

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gonna take a lot of dominance over beating my beloved
Raiders or beating Washington, but beating Miami the way they
did was significant. Getting the amount of pressure that they
got without Von Miller, who comes back now on a snapcount.
As you guys heard earlier, you know, you get von
Miller back into that mix. Also with the pass rush
that was able to be disruptive against Miami. I mean,
I think you're right. Fitting to the run is an

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important part of what the Bills need to be able
to do throughout the course of the season. But right now,
the way Buffalo is playing everything for them looks effortless,
and that's a lot of what we expected. If you
look last year, you know, with Ken Dorsey coming into
the offensive coordinator, the biggest knock was that it seemed
to make Josh Allen back into who he used to
be a little bit more aggressive with the football, took
chances he didn't have to take. Some of that mirrored

(28:23):
into Week one. I thought that was the biggest concern.
Since then, it just feels like we have a different
version of Josh Allen. We have the Josh Allen we
expected throughout the course of this He's not taking those risks,
not taking those chances. We have a defense that has
disruptors at every possible layer of the defense. I just
think the Bills are sitting here reminding us all that
whatever their playoff failures had been in the past don't

(28:43):
matter right now. They have been a great regular season
team for years. Like we talked about them like they
were trash last year. At times they were thirteen and
three because they didn't get that last game with the
tragedy that happened. They were thirteen and three last year.
And that's why as we came into this year, I
kept telling everybody, if you think the Jets are going
to be the the hot team that takes over the division,
you find in an extra four or five losses out

(29:03):
of this Bills team. Now we know definitively you aren't.
Like this still looks like a twelve or thirteen win
team to.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Me, right, And if I'm the Jets, right, and I
mean if I'm the coaching staff of the Jaguars, I
look at that Jets game against the Bills. What do
they do? They sacked Josh Allen five times. You got
to get in the face of Josh Allen. I don't
know if the Jags defense could do what the Jets
defense did, but that should be somewhat of the game
plan for the Jags.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, you're right, but the Jags have had their own
issues finding any sort of a sink this year and
getting in any sort of a rhythm themselves. And if
you look at the upcomings, I mean, you got the
Jags this week, the Giants, the Patriots, and then Tampa
Bay Cincinnati, like there are a bunch of winnable games
in a row. Like it just feels like the Bills
are about to rip off a bunch of games.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I was equally confident that the Bills would lose last week,
So let's see what happens. But the Jags are a
team that I'm still waiting to see take that leap
that we expected, Like they were supposed to jump from
being a pretty good team that could win a bad
division to being a very good team in the AFC.
That jump has not happened. I mean, they're two and two,
and at times it has looked just putrid and at
times it's looked okay. But we have yet to see

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that version of the Jags that we thought we'd see,
that we saw last year at the end of the season,
where they were explosive. I've expected more throughout this process
from Calvin Ridley. I've expected more throughout this process from
Trevor Lawrence, Like from everybody involved on the offensive side
of the ball. The Jags should be far better.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, and they got smacked around by the Texans thirty
seven to seventeen. I think there was two weeks ago
that that was a bad loss.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
It really was.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But I still like the Bills this game. I think
the Bill should went by at least ten, maybe double
digits in this game. I really believe that. But here's
a game that I would stay away from if I
was a gambler. Titans at the Colts. He is a toughie.
It really is a physical game for sure. Colts have
won two of their last three. Jonathan Taylor is back
for the Coasts of the running back Coats quarterback Anthony Richardson.
He got to take advantage of that secondary, the Titans secondary.

(30:47):
But Richardson what he needs is protection, keep him up
right and owbviously the Colts could win. I'm surprised with
the Colts, I really am. The Cults have really surprised
me thus far this year. Both these teams are two
and two now.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I think the Colts are one of the biggest and
pleasant surprises throughout the early course of the season. And
you know, it's funny because I think quickly, you get
an idea of whether or not you got your guy
as a coach sometimes and it feels like, much like
last year Dave All felt like that for the Giants,
feels like Shane Steichen is doing that for the Colts.
He's doing a great job finding a way to make
Anthony Richardson comfortable quickly. Anthony Richardson has been a little

(31:20):
bit of a microcosm of who he was in college.
So far. There's been a couple of games where he's
been really hot throwing the football, and when he is
it's hard to beat. There's been a couple of games
where it just looked like accuracy was an issue, and
that mirrors who he was at Florida. There were times
that he'd made plays you couldn't imagine. The weirdest part
about this matchup to me is that, frankly, if you
go all the way back to twenty nineteen, the Titans

(31:42):
have had the Colts number repeatedly. It's I think at
this point five or six straight games that they've beaten
The Titans have beaten the Colts. They only have one
loss in the last seven against them. The Titans have
been able to figure out the Colts under Mike Vrabel
since basically twenty nineteen. If you are the Colts and
you think that this is a year where suddenly you
can't contend, this is the type of game you can win.

(32:04):
The Titans are equally jekyled and hide to figure out
how is it humanly possible that the Titans can look
so bad one week and so good the next. Like,
I understand that it was a shell of the Bengals
last week, but let's be real, it doesn't matter who
they were playing last week. The Titans looked explosive. The
Titans looked like everything we thought they would be. Like
Derrek Henry had a big game, and everybody says, Derek

(32:25):
Henry's back, Like, I don't know what to make of it.
That's a touchdown to I mean, and I don't know
what to make of that that Titans offensive line. But
I'll tell you the Titans, Jecklin Hyde, if they're up,
they could win this game big, I have no idea.
To your point, I have not put a dollar on
this one. I'm scared, Yes, stay away.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know it's funny you mentioned the Times, Because if
I'm a game plan, if I'm a coach for an
opposing team, you know they're fairly predictable. You just give
the ball to Derreck Henry. I mean he's got seventy
three rushing attempts thus far this year, the leading rusher
on the team, and you just if you could stop him.
I remember last year when the Bengals did play Tennessee,
they held Henry to thirty eight yards rushing. At what
they do they win the game. Basically, he's their offense

(33:03):
because Tannehill, for some strange reason, can't get the bolt
a de Andre Hopkins. I mean, he's an outstanding receiver,
but they got problem over there with Ryan Tannehill. So
their offense basically is very similar to the Giants with
say Kwan Barkley. You give the bolt to Barkley, he
was like sixty percent of their offense. He doesn't play,
they lose, that's it.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, And with Tannehill, it's so hard because he'll look
good one week and the next week he'll just look
around and say, yeah, he's not the guy. And when
you combine that with a young offensive line that's inconsistent,
it just it's hard to watch. Sometimes, like when the
Titans aren't clicking offensively. It is one of the uglier
offenses to try and watch in the NFL. But I
think Mike Vrabel is happy being exactly who you said. Like,

(33:45):
he'd have no problem running the football every single snap
if it could keep them. He knows his defense is
gonna be good more often than not, so why not
mitigate the potential risk of anything offensively? It feels like
that's been a strategy for a long time for the Titans.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, I think think the Colts take them this game.
I really do. I like the Colts. You know, I'm
not betting on this one, staying away, but it's a toughie,
you know.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
But Yeah, I think I'm gonna pick the time. We're
gonna go opposite on this one. I'm gonna pick the Titans,
but not confidently enough to putting the cash on it.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yes, stay away, keep the money in the pocket.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
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com fits. Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Oh? I am so ready. Let's go here.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
We got I got a couple of questions for you.
Number one big question for the Cincinnati Bengals all week
long the quarterback Joe Burrow. And the question has been
from fans, media alike, to play or not to play?
He's injured with that CAF it is a chance obviously
getting it worse and obviously not being mobile. Do you
play the guy or do you not play the guy?

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That's the question.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, you don't play him. And unfortunately the hardest part
about that is that when you actually look at what
should have happened, they should have not played him coming
into the season, So now what do you do, because
the argument's going to be, well, you can't dig yourself
in that kind of hole if you don't play him. Well,
you already did by playing him when he was a
shell of himself, And all that's doing is extending how
long this bought in, this calf issue bothers him, and

(35:48):
it's extending how many games they lose. I mean, when
you get beat that way by the Titans, you got
to ask yourself, looking in the mirror realistically, how many
of the next three or four games are we going
to lose if we play him versus if we sit
in him. I don't think the number on that's drastically different.
So all you're doing is extending the amount of time
that you are a shell of yourself as a team.
They shouldn't have played him in the first place. Now
they're just putting more good money after bad by continuing

(36:10):
to put him on the field. Sit him down and
hope that you can dig your way out of this hole.
But if you continue to play him, he's not gonna
be good. You're going to continue to lose games, and
then all you're gonna have is an injured burrow to
dig you out of that very same hole. So risk
versus rewards, sit him down to ad.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Just to drop to what you just said. Last week,
they lose twenty eight three to the Tennessee Titans. And
when they were down twenty eight three early or maybe
mid win in the fourth period, and he was still playing.
I don't know why coach Zach tayl left him in
take him out. The only thing you could do is
get injured more. Now he's still in the blow game.
I didn't get it. Question that, And you know they
have the news conferences obviously on Monday and Wednesday, and

(36:47):
Kelsey Conway, who covers the Bengals for the Cincinni Inquirer,
asked coach Taylor, do you think that Joe Burrow may
play this Sunday in Arizona. You know Zach tail comes
bes says that's the foolest question. He humiliated her and
embarrassed And I thought it was a tremendous question. And
I should have been there Monday because I would have
asked Zach Taylor, why is it a stupid question? But

(37:09):
that's not for me right now. I missed that one.
I'll be at the next one, all right, Next question,
Sunday Night, lest Son and Night Travis Kelsey had six
catches against the Jets that matched the number of commercials
he appeared in. All right, now, Taylor Swift was there?
Is that good for the NFL? Or is she using
Kelsey for more fame for herself?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
You've got the wrong who's using who on this? I
think Kelsey's using Taylor for more fame for himself. I mean,
you mentioned six commercials. Do we not think part of
that is because he's become a phenomenon, right, Like, I
don't think it's an accident that we've seen this relationship
come out at about the same time that we've seen
just an influx of Kelsey commercials. So I just wonder

(37:51):
if there's a common business manager somewhere involved in this
that wants that. I will remind you though, Taylor Swift
by herself has more social media followers then every NFL
team combined, So she doesn't need the NFL. She is
by herself already bigger than the NFL. It's why she
didn't need the Super Bowl, Like the NFL needs her

(38:13):
way more than she needs them. As weird as that
is for football fans to hear, tatay is bigger than
anything the league can do right now, not only in
America but especially globally. So yeah, Taylor doesn't need the
Only thing I'm trying to figure out out of this
is what's her endgame? Because I see Kelsey's he's an
ad superstar now and his profile has taken the next level.

(38:35):
And why do I feel like we're gonna find out
he's hosting some crazy TV show or some super Bowl commercials,
Like there's gonna be some sort of back end on
this for Kelsey. I see his benefit, I see the
NFL's benefit. I don't think Taylor's getting anything out of this.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Is it fair to say that Travis Kelcey right now
today is the face of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
God to a group of people, Yes, I mean that's all. Yeah,
to to Taylor Swift fans that know nothing about football,
he is the absolute face of the NFL. Do we think, though, like,
is there some recency on that? Because I don't know.
Every time I see Mahomes and Andy Reid do the like,
tell me about that again while he passed me those
nugs like that commercial like that just makes me laugh

(39:15):
so much. I still think Patrick Mahomes is the face
of the NFL to sports fans, but yeah, to the
average person just walking around that watches more Bravo than ESPN,
I would say that, yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Okay, last, but not least, give me some of the
biggest surprises thus far in the NFL, be a team
or individual.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, I think the Bengals are the biggest surprise in
the fact that, you know, so many people thought that
they were in their Super Bowl window and they absolutely
don't have that opportunity right now. Like the Bengals not
only are bad, they look even worse than we expected.
I'm not surprised by Sean Baiton, for example, I'm not
surprised by the Giants. If we're looking for a positive surprise,
the Seahawks are three and one. I don't think enough

(39:54):
people are talking about how good they look right now.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, I mean, really and truly. You know, he should
have been proud the Coach of the Year list you
instead of durable of the Giants, don't you agree?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I mean the job, the job he does is just
always believe in him.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Here we go. Now.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
A loss today pushes the Goat out of the playoffs.
That and so much more where on Fox Football Sunday
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We'll get to that at just about a minute. Good morning, everybody.
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Speaker 3 (40:39):
He is.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
He doesn't want to leave me, Jason Fitz for Bucky Brooks.
How you doing, JF.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Look is Bucky still getting tea in London? Because is
he bringing back tea for everybody?

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
How's this working? Do we get crumpets too?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
If he's coming back?

Speaker 1 (40:54):
That's the thing, man, it's nice over there, Like the
food's not as good, so like he should, I mean,
London's fine, but the food definitely gets boring after this
is not a hot take. Biscuits better than crumpets, right, like,
so we're all in on that.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Here's my question though, And look, it's all about It's
all about the gelt. It's all about the green cabbage.
Is it cheaper for the team Jacksonville to spend the
entire week there with hotel and food or to play
last week, come back and then go back again.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh, it's it's probably cheaper for them to come back.
But there has to be some advantage to just staying
over there, Like your body's got to normalize a little bit.
I was, I was honestly lucky in my life to
get to go a bunch to Europe on tour as
a musician, and it was interesting always when he came back,
Like everybody reacted a little bit differently to that. Certainly

(41:43):
not athletes, but even musicians. When you're coming back from
one coast to the other, get it can take a
lot out of you. So I think there is some
advantage if I'm the Bills, I'm you know, and I
know everybody has a different strategy on this, But if
I'm the Bills knowing that the time time change is
probably most f ruble coming from where I am, I'm
waiting as long as possible to get over there, and
I'm just getting over there, getting it done and coming back.

(42:06):
But that's, you know, for the Jags, you've been there
for a second, You've had the chance to acclimate. You know,
you just want you want decent food. But you can
get that when you know them.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, And they talk about the possibility maybe of a
team in London. I don't get it. I don't know
how a team like Seattle could fly to London and
play a football game.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I just also like, this is way in the weeds.
But like, let's be honest, A lot of people don't
think about this, but the taxes to play in London
would be astronomical for any athlete. They would have to
they literally have to adjust the salary cap to figure
out how to allow athletes in London to get comparable
pay because they would pay so much more in taxes

(42:43):
for what they make compared to what they would pay
over here. By the time they pay the taxes they
would owe London and the taxes that they would owe
as American citizens, Like, it's just one of those things
in the week, everybody talks about a London team until
you can explain to me how the taxes are going
to work out, I don't think there's any chance that
actually happens.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Wow, right, we do that.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
That's the information nobody really wanted that. I just look,
it's a guy that's had to write a check before
to England. I'm telling you, it's just no, it's not good.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Good.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I'm glad you cleared that up, and maybe the NFL
was listening. Really, I really am. Hey, we have to
agree on this that we took about the goat of
NFL coaches. I think it's gotta be Bill Belichick. If
he's not up there, he's side by side, perhaps with
Vince Lombardi. Do we agree on that? I would say
you probably do?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Good, Okay, So today the Saints are playing at New England.
They're playing the Patriots. Patriock. I mean it was embarrassing
last week. The it was thirty eight to three at
Dallas last week. I gotta believe that a loss today,
no playoffs for the Patriots. They're hurting in the defensive
backfield and look they got it. I mean, it's not
a Bill Belichick. Key, it doesn't look like a Belichick team.
Why do I say that? Mac Jones three turnovers? Lest

(43:49):
we come on, is it time to move on from
Mac Jones? And if you do, who do you go to?
That's the question.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
It's time to move on from Bill Belichick, not just
Mac Jones. Look, I think two things can be true here.
You can be the greatest of all time and not
the right fit anymore for where you are. And every
single issue that Bill Belichick the coach has, is an
issue that was created by Bill Belichick the GM right,
so that at some point you're right that Mac Jones

(44:15):
is not the answer. The problem is the same guy's
going to pick the next quarterback.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
And I understand that.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
When you've had the success that Belichick has had, we're
not allowed to question certain portions of it. But if
we're being real, the roster is not good enough. The
coaching staff for most of the last several years has
not been good enough, highed by Belichick if you look
up and down the organization. The hardest part about it
is there are so many Belichick disciples. Hell, there's so
many Belichicks on this coaching staff. The concept of moving

(44:42):
on seems daunting. But at some point, you're Robert Kraft.
You got to ask yourself a very difficult question, not
what has won me super bowls in the past, but
right now, what in the next five years will win
me a super Bowl? And I have a hard time
figuring out how Bill Belichick the GM is going to
out talent the Dolphins and the Bills for the next
several years. They're going to be at best the third

(45:03):
best team in their own division for the next five, six,
seven years. By the time you get through that period,
are you even capable of building where you need to be.
I think they're in the most unenviable It keeps saying
the wrong word on that they're in a really bad situation,
just a really bad situation.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
You know, you mentioned Robert Crafty owner. He was somewhat
vocal back in August saying that, you know, there's a
possibility that he might make a coaching change. Didn't mention
it specifically, but if you read between the Lions, he
is not too happy. And I think that if they
failed to make the playoffs, which they probably could fail
to make the playoffs, there'll be a situation where I
think there'll be an agreement that Belichick will leave. He'll resign,

(45:42):
he won't get fired, and we talk about coaches time
for a change. As you said, maybe it's time for
a change for Belichick. I do recall in my mind
a little foggy on this when Vince Lombardi left the
Green Bay Packers, he went to coach to Washington then Redskins.
He won with them. He immediately turned the Redskins into
a winner. So it didn't make a difference really for
Lombardy with talent. He just took over a team that

(46:05):
was really so downtrodden to come into the players. I
get it. It's a different NFL today than it was
back then. But still in all, he did what he
had to do.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, I think that's the other interesting part. The Patriots
have to look out for the Patriots. Belichick's got to
look out for Belichick and for everybody. And I've heard
this suggested many times. Well maybe they'll just put him
in a supervisory or front office role. That's exactly what
he's bad at, right Like the problems that they're having
right now are because he's not good at that portion
of this job. So why would you put him in

(46:33):
that role? And if he wants to continue coaching, would
he essentially just be able to take his whole staff
somewhere else. The only question that new place would have
to ask is are you getting a version of Belichick
that can help you win today? So it's a weird
spot to be in, and I get it for Patriots
fans and for the organization, it's tough to move on
from a legend. But at the same time, if that

(46:54):
legend can't, if you got to look at the mirror
and ask yourself, can we win a Super Bowl right now?
And the answer for the Patriots a square. They're not
a playoff team this year. They don't have a good
enough quarterback, their roster isn't solid enough, and the future
does not look bright at all.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
For New England fans, well, I'm gonna put the brakes
on it for a second. That's so much doom and gloom.
I do think the Patriots win today. I think they
beat the Saints. However, the pages have to stop. They
have to stop out of Kamara because here's a guy
that could really break the game wide open. And if
you look at the Patriots and their history, they've had
some problem defending against receiving backs who have that short dumpluff,
dink and dunk pass in the backfield. So that's the

(47:29):
key right there. Kamara could be a breakaway guy that
could change this game. But I think at home, after
coming up that lost last week, I think the Patriots
go to two and three today and the Saints fall
to two and three.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I heard in the update earlier that the presumption is
that Derek Carr is playing because he feels better. The
only thing that makes me laugh is last week there
wasn't a presumption that he didn't feel good enough. Now
we're hearing it that way, so it's sort of revisionists
as teams. Do you mentioned Kamara? The one thing I
would say is that thirteen catches, eleven rushers last week,
his share, his percentage of overall usage was through the

(48:01):
roof last week. They are going to continue because Derek
Carr a isn't healthy and B he's always going to
be comfortable taking what a defense will give him. I
think they're going to try and utilize Kamari yere thousand
percent right. The question is just is there enough health
for him to do what he needs to do. I
don't think so. I Actually I'm with you. I like
New England in this game. I think their defense can
do enough to confuse Derek Carr, and that could be enough,

(48:22):
especially injured with the limited time he's getting, I think
that could be enough to hold them back.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
We agree. I love it. Now, here's a game that
basically on paper, you know, I'd love to watch, but
I don't think it means much right now because I
said coming into the segment, it's all about one man
raven Steelers and then one man's Lamar Jackson. Steelers loss
at Houston last week of all places, thirty to six.
Not good. And I know Mike Tomlin, the coach, said
he's to make some changes. Here's the problem with the Steelers.

(48:47):
Kenny Pickett's not developing a quarterback. They have no run game.
Did Naji Harris forget how to run? What happened to
Naji Harris? He's not running? And the Ravens. I say,
it's all about Lamar Jackson. He's a team leading rushing
with two hundred and twenty yards. I think Lamar jacks
since has a field day today and I think the
Ravens win and they win.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Bid Like, are we in this weird spot where the
Steelers aren't good every year? We just presume that no
matter what, the Steelers are gonna be good. And I
agree with you. I mean, the Steelers have not been
able to put together a competent looking offense. And part
of the issue I think y're a thousand percent right now.
He's not running the football well. The Steelers as a
team are not running the football well. And because Kenny

(49:23):
Pickett is absolutely no threat right now as a quarterback.
And I know he's gonna play expectation, but obviously got
hurt last week. But when you don't have a quarterback
that can threaten at all, defense doesn't have to worry
about it at all. But the stunning part about that
is you do have weapons there that are considered to
be good, right Like Pickens is a good wide receiver,
Frank Ruth is a good tight end. Like you look

(49:44):
across the board. They have guys that should be able
to do damage and they can't. And part of that's
because of Kenny Pickett. Part of that's because of the
offense and the way it's being called. The Steelers just
feel like they're bad. And that's weird to say. We've
never really looked at a Mike Tomlin and said, oh,
this is a bad football team, and we are now
saying that. So I got to be equally fair and

(50:05):
harsh in some ways on the Steelers as I was
to just the Patriots a minute ago. I think the Steelers.
Obviously they're not nearly in that same category at gloom
and doom, but the Steelers are a disaster so far.
And yeah, I fully expect every one of these weeks
that offense for Baltimore gets a little bit more comfortable
with the new offensive coordinator, a little more comfortable with
the new system. This is a big chance for Baltimore

(50:26):
to come out make a statement.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Jason Fitz un to let you know a little bit
of a secret. Okay, I'm going to open up to
you because I love you to death.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I love this.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
The next game I coach in the NFL will be
my first. Okay, So when I say this, I mean
that I think the best chance the Steelers have to
win would probably be Mitch Trubisky a quarterback. I really
believe that. However, I think that as a coach, you
have to say to yourself, if I bench Kenny Pickett,
all of a sudden, now the confidence that he hads,
which is not much, goes down to cropper, and then

(50:55):
all of a sudden, if you put him back in,
he's going to be second guessing himself the confidence factor.
So I think as a coach, it's not so much
that you're going to do a better job with Trubisku,
and you may win with him, You're going to really
destroy the psyche of Kenny Pickett. Maybe I'm entirely wrong,
but I think maybe that's the reason why Pickett still
going out there. Well.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Also, I'll add that there are very few coaches in
the entire league they can be more comfortable making long
term decisions than Mike Tomlin. Right Like, you're with an
organization that is not over reactionary in anything that they do.
So if you're Tomlin and you believe that it does
help the long term psyche of a guy you believe
that can play, then you will do even if it's

(51:35):
worse for you today. You can justify that one hundred percent.
There are plenty of coaches that are so worried about
wedding every week because that's what their job relies on,
that they wouldn't be willing to take that same risk.
Tomlin would and can through this process, and they've got
to look internally and figure out if Kenny Bickett, if
they believe Kenny Bickett is the answer. I didn't think
he was. And then all of a sudden in preseason

(51:57):
it looked so stinking good that I turned around. I
did the very thing we always tell people not to do.
Fell in love with preseason results, and now what do
we get? So, you know, the Steelers have to make
that decision. If they don't believe that Kenny Bickett's the
long term answer, then they just need to move on
and put in good old Mitchell and see where it
goes from there. But if they do, Tomlin has the
grace of ownership knowing that he has a the reputation,

(52:19):
be the clout and see the following that he can
do whatever he wants there and people will give him
benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, you would think the game being played in Pittsburgh
because I think they probably have, between them and maybe Vegas,
the best fans in the NFL. They travel all over
the place, and you think that being in Pittsburgh they
would have someone over advantage. And I don't think they do.
And I think the Ravens win, And honestly, I think
the Ravens win fairly big, I really do.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, I'm with you. I think Baltimore wins this game big.
And we are at that turning point where Kenny Pickett
goes from being a cute story to somebody that will
get booed by that crowd if it doesn't look right.
So that you're right about that too. Like Pittsburgh fans
are not going to be patient if he plays poorly.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
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(53:17):
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(53:38):
now they're perfect at home and they'll remain perfect. That's
next rest and a strong rung defense equals a win.
We'll get to that in just about a minute. He
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let's go right along now. Detexans at the Atlanta Falcon

(54:00):
both teams two and two. However, whatever this means, the
Falcons are a perfect two and zero at home, and
I'll jump to the conclusion right now and say that
they'll remain undefeated at home by beating the Texans today.
That's my take.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
It's pretty crazy to me that two and two can
feel so differently depending on what the expectation was a
month ago, like because the Falcons came into this with
some people, especially around the organization, saying, hey, there's a
shot this team can win the division, and two and
two feels like you're teetering on the edge of everything
going the wrong way. And conversely, it was, well, you know,

(54:36):
the Texans, even with two draft picks, are still gonna
be garbage, and they aren't. They're very good and CJ.
Stroud has turned out to be much better than anybody expected,
and his chemistry with Tank Dell seems to be a
delight to Will Anderson Junior seems to be the right pick,
like they got the right guy in every situation, they
got the right head coach. So there's this love story
around the Texans and what they look like so far.

(54:58):
This all comes down to creativity to me, though, Like
the reason I'm going to go towards the Texans in
this is because I still don't trust Arthur Smith at
some point to not be a boring, predictable game plan.
And I do trust to meek O Ryans to be
able to look at the Texans and figure out how
to stop a boring, predictable game plan. Like I'll keep
saying this, everybody says, well, it's not fantasy football. The

(55:20):
reason certain guys are projected to do well in fantasy
football is because they're good football players. I have no
problem with the guy not getting any run for fantasy football.
My bigger thing is, at some point, when you have
Kyle Bitts, and you have Drake London and you have Bijon,
you got guys that are also supposed to be very good.
Just make sure that your great guys are getting the
ball and great opportunities to become great. I don't trust
desmaon Ritter. I do trust to meek O Ryans. So

(55:42):
I'm actually gonna go Texans in this matchup and continue
to ride that hype train like this just feels like this,
it's a feel good story early in the season for
the Texans.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, I'm with you, right Dan. You know I watched
desmand ready to play quarterback at the University of Cincinnati,
led them to tremendous heights. But he's not getting it
done and he's not the franchise quarterback. I think the
Falcons one. He had two with deceptions and a lost
fumble last week as they lost. The Falcons did twenty
three to seven to Jacksonville. That was the Bucky Brooks's
game in London. Now they got to run the football.
They got Robbinson to run the football. But I just

(56:10):
don't think they're good enough. You mentioned CJ. Stroud. He's impressive,
very impressive a Texans six touchdowns and noiant. So I
think this game is going to the Falcons right now.
And you know the Falcons right now not a great
team and a bad division. You said they might win
the division. They still could. I don't think they will,
but you know, Desmond ridd is not the guy. He's
just not the guy. He's that long term future for

(56:31):
that team.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I totally agree, and by the way, I agree with
everything you said. I mean, one of my favorite things
in covering college football is getting to find guys like
Desmond Ritter and watch a lot of their stuff and
cover a lot of their stuff. At Cincinnati, what he
was capable of doing was incredible. But that doesn't always translate.
And that's part of the reason. You know, more often
than not when guys are available past the first round

(56:53):
at the quarterback positions, because there's a fatal flaw of
some sort you hope you can fix that. They came
into this really confident that he could be their guy,
or at least they could give him the shot to
do it. And that's fine, that's great, But I don't
think the Desma ridd you need a game out of
a quarterback to win, You're not going to get that
from Desma Ritter. It's been the thing that I've questioned
from the outset of this season. The interesting part about

(57:15):
the Falcons is that, you know, let's see what happens
with the Buccaneers right now. But the rest of that
division it's not particularly great. So I think, you know,
the question is do you want to win the division
and go to the playoffs? You want to be a
good football team, because I think they have a shot
at some level of being competitive through the division. I
don't think they have a shot at being a really
good football team as long as Desmon Ridders there quarterback.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, And I don't think they want to pass in
the football. He's only has one hundred and nineteen attempts
in those four games, so I mean, honestly, three interceptions,
three touchdowns, so he's not passing the football. They know
he's not going to pass the football, so got to
run the ball if you want to win. But I
think they'll win today, maybe win by a field goal,
but they're going to win. Go to Panthers at the
Detroit lines. I say this for those doubters out there,

(57:57):
the Lions are for real. That thirty four to twenty
one of a Bay we could go Thursday. They got
Green Bays now, but there's no doubt about that. Got
a lot of rest now from a week to go
Thursday to today, Panthers owned for can Bryce Young attack
downfield with DJ Clark, Chalk and Adam Feelin. I don't
think so. I think the Lions dominate this game. Lions
are good. They take after their coach. The coach is

(58:18):
He's a tough, hard nosed, old school kind of guy.
He's got these guys playing great defense. He really does.
And as I say, the Lions will dominate this game.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah, I agree with you, and I think you know,
when you start thinking about what it meant to beat
the Packers, the only thing that you constantly hear in
these situations is the concept of a letdown game. I
don't think Dan Campbell as a coach is capable of
letting a team have a let down game. There's just
too much weird intensity from him and everything that he does.
The Lions can spread you out, beating from anywhere. They

(58:46):
only seem to add more weapons. The Porters turned out
to be a delight for them also early on. They
can beat you in every level offensively. And you know,
at some point, no matter what we thought of Jared
Goff at different points in his career, what we think
of Jared Goffer right now is whether it's the right
relationship with the right coach or whatever. I don't care.
Jared Go's playing good football. Bryce Young isn't right. So

(59:07):
I don't think Bryce Young's playing great football, and I
don't think Frank Reich's doing a great job of putting
him in a situation to be successful to the same
level of what we've seen from like Stichen and Anthony Richardson,
for example. So I don't trust Carolina at all. And
I absolutely yeah, this game will be over by halftime
and Lions fans will be sitting back realizing that they've
now become the very team that they usually got beat by,

(59:28):
the team that's just consistently good and can kick your butt.
Like that's the Lions right now.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
You know, you look at the schedule. I just pulled
up the Detroit Lions schedule. First of all, they win today,
there's a good chance they're gonna put one nail on
the coffee to win that division. They really will. I
they're gonna win that division. But if you look at
this schedule, I think they only have two challenged games
that remainder of the schedule. The twenty second of October
they're at Baltimore, and the thirtieth of December, they're at Dallas.

(59:54):
Other than that, every other game, I'm not going to
say they win it, but they should win. They will win.
You know, everybody says these games they should win, they
winnable games. No, I'm gonna go one step further. They
will win those games. After today, what do they have
at Tampa Bay? They win Vegas, they win Charges, they
win Bears, they win Green Bay, they win again at
New Orleans, they win Chicago, they win Denver, Minnesota, and

(01:00:16):
Minnesota again. They're gonna win those games. I mean, I
don't see them losing maybe one of two more ball
games this year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Well. The other part with the Vikings that I think
is interesting is they get the Vikings twice in the
last three weeks. By then, Minnesota season could be absolutely done, right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
So coaches may not be the quarterback by then, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
And so all of a sudden, you have no idea
what version of the Vikings you'll be getting that late.
The Bears and Broncos their seasons will be done by then.
So I actually agree with you. This schedule is super favorable.
The Chargers can give them a good game if the
Chargers can never get healthy, and of course my beloved
Raiders is gonna beat them because the Raiders are juggernuts
just waiting to wake up. Let me dream, let me
have nice things. But yeah, I agree with you. This

(01:00:58):
Lion's team is by the end the year that the
question isn't going to be did they win the division?
The question is how do they stack up with the
Eagles and the forty nine ers, because they are going
to be amongst the NFC is elite, and by the
way they're young in a lot of places, they're going
to be an elite team for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
You know, It's funny because the way the NFL is
set up, and everybody knows this, you know, you know,
the team that finishes last gat the first pick, and
you know the kind of balance it out, and that's
why teams at the Lions finally are back in contention.
You're built through the draft, maybe you built through a
little free agency, but basically that's the concept of the league.
I've always felt, and people look at me like I

(01:01:34):
got an eye in the back of my head. I've
always felt that you should be rewarded for winning, and
I think the team that wins the Super Bowl should
get the first pick. And I don't think there's nothing
wrong with a team that dominates. For years, you had
teams that dominated sports in various capacities. You had the
Boston Celtics dominating basketball, the Montreal Canadians dominating hockey. Okay,

(01:01:55):
the Yankees dominated baseball, and the teams that you love
to hate. That's what it was. I think think there's
something good about that. The draft situation, I get it.
And you know what, more often than that, if you
do finish last, I get that first pick. I don't
see Tampa doing anything with Trevor Lawrence. I really don't.
I don't think there's any guarantee that if you're so
called tank and get that first pick, you're gonna turn

(01:02:16):
it around. Give the team that honestly deserves that first
pick because they want something, they're a champion, give them
the first pick.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
I don't think you've ever been more wrong about anything
you've ever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
I know I've been told that before.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
It's I love the concept of what you're saying, but
as a fan of a team that has sucked for
the majority of the last twenty years, I gotta have
hope somewhere like the reason the draft has become is
my hot take. The single greatest moment in the sports
calendar every single year is the NFL Draft. It's better
than the World Series. It's better than the super Bowl.
It's better an event. It's and thirty one out of

(01:02:51):
thirty two teams will walk away from the draft feeling hope.
Right like you either feel this great winner, this great
loss of your team blows the draft, but going into it,
every single team thinks, this is when my relationship with
my team gets fixed. Everything gets better. You need that hope.
If you reward the good teams, then the bad teams
are gonna be mired and mediocrity forever. Right, But you

(01:03:14):
give chance to like every as a Raiders fan every
single year, by when the season ends, you have this
really honest look at your team. You have this honest
look at your relationship. You're like, yeah, this is dysfunctional.
And then you go through free agency and you're like,
you know what, like I kind of miss her, Like
things are okay, things are better. You get to the
draft and then the draft is all of a sudden,
it's like, oh, I love this place we used to
go to lunch like kids where you start dating your

(01:03:35):
team again. You fall back in love and boom, you're
right back into heartbreak where I am right now. If
I don't have the draft as my beacon of light
in a dark, dark world, then where's my hope going
to come from as a fan?

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
You're exactly right. It's hope. But after the hope, there's
no guarantee from the hope that you do get results.
That's that's the key. But you're right, I've seen the
draft obviously is a major event in football, Baseball, no
one even knows when the draft is. To be honest, right, hockey,
no one cares. First of all, you can't you can't
pronounce the names anyway. They're all French, so it's no

(01:04:06):
big deal, right, But as far as football is concerned,
it's a big deal. It's a couple of day events
and it's on TV and people love it, and that's
the way it is. You're right, it's hope. But hope
does not guarantee wins. That's the problem. But maybe you
know and I am wrong. I know i'm wrong because
if I was right, they do it, So I'm wrong.
But I think that in life you should be rewarded
for doing something good, and if you win it all

(01:04:29):
you get something good, maybe maybe an extra pick. Something
should be given to a team that wins the Super
Bowl besides a ring and a parade. That's just me
all right. But by the way, no offense means no wins.
That's coming up next live from the tiraq dot Com studios.
But first, our guy Kevin Wyatt with all your sports.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yeah, we got some NFL injury news breaking overnight. Actually,
Tom Pellisero with a tweet earlier that said that Lions
wide receiver Jamison Williams is expected to play a limited role,
maybe around twenty snaps in his return from his gambling
suspension today against Carolina, though Lea's him back in on

(01:05:09):
a day that running back Jamieir Gibbs and wide receiver
Amon Ross Saint Brown are not expected to play. Lions
running running back Jamiir Gibbs was dongraded officially to doubtful
other injury Newsy and Rappaport saying quarterback Derek Carr listed

(01:05:29):
as questionable. The right children will play today. He's in
a better place health wise than he was last week
with his ac joint sprain. The Texans getting Laramie Tunsell
and Tyris Howard back, as well as wide receiver John Mitchie.
Tunssell had a knee injury, Titus Howard dealing with a
hand issue. Mitchie had an illness. Bengals wide receiver t
Higgins is not expected to play. He has a cracked rib.

(01:05:52):
He's listed as questionable officially. Defensive end Trey Hendrickson should
be able to play. Quarterback Jadobe A Woozy is a
game time decision. Von Miller expected to make his season
debut today. He tour his ACL last November, has not
played since, and he'll be making his debut against the
Jaguars today in London. However, he'll be on a limited

(01:06:15):
pitch count, likely just on third down and obvious pass
rushing situations. Odell Beckham Junior expected to play today. He's
been spending the last two weeks dealing with tendon nitis
in his foot. Offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley and cornerback Mary
and Humphrey are also expected to or Marlon Humphrey excuse

(01:06:35):
me expected it to play. No expected limitations on Rams
wide receiver Cooper Cup He will make his season debut
today against the Eagles. He's been on injured reserve the
last four weeks with an injured hamsham string and the
Broncos safe they want to work out running back Devonte Williams.
He is questionable with a quad injury in pregame warm
ups before deciding whether or not he can play against

(01:06:57):
the Jets at his according to Adam sefter Ian Rappaport
saying the Giant's not expected to have Saquon Barkley in
today's game against the Dolphins. He's still dealing with that
high ankle spraying. College football last night ending on a
thrilling note. Usc The ninth ranked Trojans were down seventeen
to nothing to Arizona before rallying to force overtime and

(01:07:18):
eventually winning it in triple overtime forty three to forty one.
Number ten Notre Dame upset by number twenty five Louisville
thirty three to twenty. The day started off in Dallas
Red River rivalry twelfth ranked Oklahoma with fifteen seconds ago
punches it in to take down the third ranked Texas
Longhorns thirty four to thirty. Another upsets on number thirteen

(01:07:39):
Washington stayed up ended by UCLA twenty five to seventeen
in a crazy finish between Georgia Tech and Miami. The
seventeen thranked Hurricanes were ahead with thirty seconds to go
well into Georgia Tech territory, and instead of knealing the ball,
they ran the ball and fumbled. Georgia Tech recovered. They
drove seventy four yards in four plays, including a forty

(01:08:00):
four yard touchdown pass with two seconds ago to win
the sunner. The stunner number twenty four Fresno State on
the road, losing to Wyoming twenty four to nineteen ohero.
They made a furious comeback attempt. It was twenty four
to seven at halftime. Back to you guys, Thank you
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Seeing about an hour. The ground game is a killer.
Look into that in a minute. He's Jason Fitzimandy Furman.
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(01:08:36):
We'll up on a borrow betting in just a couple
of minutes. But right now Bengals at the Cardinals today
a must win, and I underline must for the Bengals,
a preseason Super Bowl pick. Now one in three, now
possibly fighting for a playoff spot. In four games, the
Bengals have failed to reach three hundred total yards three times,
with only three touchdowns this year. Joe Burrow no mobility,

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averaging like four point eight yards per passing attempt. Not good,
not good. I think Arizona takes in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
If Arizona takes it in this game, the Bengals are
done and I mean done, done. And when you think
about that and what that means, because we were just
looking at the future schedule, look at the next several
games for the Bengals after this Cardinals game. They have
the Seahawks, the forty nine Ers.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
And the Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Even with Joe Burrow being healthy, those are going to
be tough. But right now, sitting at one in three,
I mean, are we really willing to sit here and
say that there's a chance that the Bengals are going
to hit the midway point ish of the season at
one in eight? And if that's a case, it just
comes back to you've got to figure out if it
just makes sense to shut Burrow down because a shell

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of If a shell of Joe Burrow can't beat the Cardinals,
then a shell of Joe Burrow can't beat any of
those next three teams either. This is the month to
shut him down. And frankly, right now, I'm just looking
at Cincinnati and saying, why did you put yourself in
this situation? Jamar Chase even said during preseason like I
don't need you week one sit down. And the hardest
part for the Bengals that they have to accept as

(01:10:03):
an organization is that they will no longer ever be
judged by what happens during Joe Burrow's career in September
or October. They will always be judged by what happens
in January. So you got to look at it and say, Okay,
it's not about what gives us the best chance to
win today. It's about what gives us the best chance
to win in the middle of January. What do we
have to do to put ourselves in that situation but

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also to make sure that we're as good as possible
in that moment. And if this is the version of
Burrow they get, it's going to be a struggle every week.
If you can't beat the Cardinals, you ain't making the
playoffs anyway. So you might as well sitch boy down,
get him healthy, let him get right, and then when
he can come back, hope that you can just get
through with the thunder of the gods and a tear
down the back half of the schedule. But man, this
is a tough schedule for the Bengals. This season feels

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like it's a lost cause if they lose today. I
would love to pick the Cardinals because I'm an agent
of chaos, but I just feel with their backup against
the wall like this, man, the Bengals have to come
out and respond. Otherwise everybody's gonna start wondering if their
jobs and jeopardy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
You know, when Bengals coach Zach Taylor was asked will
Joe Burrow play or not? And then he said it
was a stupid question. You know, My question is this,
where's the medical staff?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
I don't think Zach Taylor is set time and again,
Joe feels good. Joe tells me he wants to play.
That's great. Every athlete wants to go out there do
the raw rock. Guys show they have guts. But I
think the medical staff has to step up and say,
look to the coaching staff after Joe, Joe, this is
not a small decision. You know, you could reinjure it.
It's going to take long at the heel you reinjured
to kind of get worse. I haven't heard boo from

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the medical staff throughout this entire process. I think it's wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
And how often do we hear athletes even tell his
former athletes will say you sometimes you got to protect
guys from themselves because guys always want to play. They
always want to it's part of how they're wired. Like
great athletes want to be on the field. I understand that.
So sometimes as an organization, you've got to have systems
in place where great athletes want to be on the field,
Great coaches want their great athletes to be out there.
You've got to have checks and balances where somebody says, hey,

(01:11:58):
I know what you want, but people in hell on
on ice wall and that's not what we're doing around
here today. So you've just got to be able to
look at Joe Burrow and say, hey, I know it's
right for your body. You just got to listen to me,
and the fact that they don't have anybody there to
do that has led them to this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
No doubt about that. And the bottom line of this
game is this. The Arizona defense is better than the
Cincinnati offense. So that's why I'm taking Arizona Eagles at
Rams today against Washington quarterback Jalen Hurts three hundred nineteen yards.
Eagles need to run the boil against Rams. Why do
I say that? The Rams have allowed one hundred and
thirty three yards on the ground to the Colts, one
hundred and fifty nine yards to the forty nine ers.

(01:12:32):
But still in all the Eagles they are a better team.
When you rank the teams in the NFL, they're in
the top three. So I think I getting it together
right now with dere Swift.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Now, the Eagles portion of this is so interesting because
we're trying to figure out how good the Rams are,
right the Rams sitting at two and two, but that
two and two, you know, they have a loss to
the forty nine ers, and they have a loss to
the Bengals, right, and they have a win that was
a tough win over the Colts. It was a good
game for them and it went over this time. So
you know, you start talking about the Eagles portion of

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this man, Philly's like sort of that test. You can
look at it and be like, Okay, what do you
look like against a very good defensive? For what do
you look like against a very good team? I know
the Eagles have been out of sink. It's funny to
me that the Eagles are so good that things don't
look quite right and they're still as good as they
are this year. I think this is a big like, hey,
let's see where the Rams are. If the Rams are

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legit will know even by how they show up in
this game, because frankly, the Eagles are the sort of
team that really the proof is in the pudding with them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
You know the question I have with the Rams. And
obviously we heard Kevin tell us that a Cooper Cup
will probably play today. But should he play and eventually
down the road when he's not healthy and playing regularly,
what happens when he comes back? For our guy Puka Nakua,
what happens to him? He's not going to catch those
fifteen passes a game. You know what's going to happen now?
With these weapons? Will Sean McVay use both weapons. He's

(01:13:52):
somewhat of an offensive genius. I think that could create
a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah, that's the target share is going to be interesting
thing for Pookinakua when Cooper comes back. Also, the comfort
that has been quickly developed for the Rams offense. I
don't ever want to say you're gonna have to redevelop
some level of chemistry with Cooper cup because I'm not
that silly. But there is going to be a difference
in just who's used to being fed where, when and

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in what situations. It will take a second to get
used to for sure for the Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Well, let's talk about the Rams. Matthew Stafford. He's got
five I in ts this far this year, and I
will say this not all his fault, okay, but when
you have those interceptions in the turnovers, it puts your
defense in a real tough spot. Eagles win this one today,
not by a lot, but they do win this game today.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Yeah, I'm with you on the Eagles. I think the
Eagles win this game. But it feels like this is
one of those win win situations for the Rams if
they lose, but there can can They're at least competitive
in the process. People will still be like, oh, look
at this Rams team. They're plucky. It's my favorite word
right now. The Rams are just plucky.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
There you go, all right. He's Jason fitzim Andy Furman.
This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. The
Moment of truth. Right around the corner. Yes, bottom barrel betting.
It's freaking next, bottom barrel betting coming right up. It's
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He's Jason Fitz. He's if the bucket Brooks. I'm Andy
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(01:15:14):
of Mike Harmen Swollen Dome joins us, and we're lying
from the tire Rock dot Com studios. What are we
waiting for? Let's play this game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
It's bottom bottom mill.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
You thought you was late? Funny to sleep people, get
my money. I'll put your brain to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Betty, Yes it is. And the one man who puts
it all together, Shay Shaye, take it away away.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
All right, guys, So last week who won?

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Who won? Who won?

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Andy?

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
You did it? The newcomer didn't win. Sorry, sorry you
couldn't do it the first time, but hey you got
another try right here. So let's see what you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
So our first week one to week two, I'm expecting
drastic improvement.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:15:52):
No, yeah, you're you're not a newcomer anymore. You know
you're not a rookie. You know what you're doing now.
So in the Darts World Grand Prix, dr Wind Price
is taking on Luke Humphreys later today at twelve fifteen
pm Pacific Standard time. Jerwin Price is coming in as
a fath at minus two thirty five, while Luke Humphrey's
line is set at plus one ninety three. Who you

(01:16:12):
guys got We.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Let Jason go first. But let me just say one thing.
The lines mean nothing because I never heard of these guys.
I don't know anything about darts or anything else, billions, darts,
whatever you give me, So deligns mean nothing. So don't
think you're helping us, because you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Uh that being said, the first guy was at Jurwin Price.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Am I saying image.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Erwin Jerwind Price and Price preeze. Yeah. No, I'm all
in on Jerwin Price. I was a I went down
the YouTube rabbit hole a couple of days ago and
found the uh the never before heard in my life
verse from Thriller by Vincent Price that didn't make the recording,
and it was a delight to listen to. So in
honor of Vincent Price, I'm taking Jerwin Price. No idea

(01:16:52):
if there's a relation, but that's the first thing that
came to mind, as follows. So there you go, Thriller, Thriller.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
I like your logic.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
I love you logic. But I'll tell you what I'm
going with the Humphrey for all the Humphries in the world,
for everybody who's named Humphrey, I'm with you. I don't
know any Humphrees, but there's gotta be one out there,
and if there is, you could even call in.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
But I'm going with all the Humphries about Bogart.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Okay, oh, Humphrey, But that that's a first name, not usual.
Humphrey is the first name. It's like mister Humphrey would
be a last name, don't you think.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Yeah, I feel like mister Humphrey call us, let us
know if you're related to this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Well, missus Humphrey really no, Missus Humphrey, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
Next, the League of Legends World Championships are finally upon
us and the bds E Sports is taking on the
Golden Dragons later tonight at nine pm Pacific Standard time.
Bds E Sports is what plus one oh five, while
Golden Guardians are minus one thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Golden Guardians or Golden Dragons say Golden Dragons at first.

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Golden Dragons Golden Dragons.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Okay, Well, look, I mean, if I have to make
the choice here between an acronym that sounds weird or
a dragon made of gold, I'm going to go with
the dragon made of gold plus the Golden Knights. I'm
gonna sitting here in my Golden Knights Stanley Cup Champion
hoodie while you give me that. So the fact that
the word golden is in it is enough reason. But yeah,
fire breathing gold dragon beats BDS whatever. As we get

(01:18:18):
into this one, I'm all in on the Golden Dragons.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
You know, honestly, I was going to go Golden Dragons.
I really was. But the fact that fits is a loser.
I'm going with the other one because you don't read this.
The only reason because the Golden Dragons to me, has
everything together. They're tough, they're big, it's impressive. I like
the name. They probably walk around with their T shirts
out there, but with the hoodies. But I'm you picked them,

(01:18:41):
so I'm not going to go there. So I'll go
with the other team. And I don't even.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Say if I win this week, I want a golden
Dragon is my prize. If you could work, I'll see
what I can do.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
I'll get you a golden Dragons, Scott, we.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Can get okay perfect Next next, in the International Handball
Women's Championship League, r K Krim is taking on Viper's
Christian Sand. Rkri is plus one seventy while right Vipers
Christian Sand is minus one forty three.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Did you just say Vipers is the first name?

Speaker 6 (01:19:08):
Vipers, Christian Sand?

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
And if your name is Vipers, I'm not betting against.

Speaker 6 (01:19:11):
I don't know if I mean a name or a
team name, to be honest, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
I tried to look, you know, in my mind, it's
somebody's first name. Some kid was named Vipers because his
parents thought that'd be bad as.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Vipers coming off some lunch day, Viprus, get a drink.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Come on, what do you want for? What do you
want for lunch? Vipers?

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
You want to that's sweet?

Speaker 6 (01:19:31):
That's sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Yeah. Uh so you got vipers.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Huh I got vipers. I'm all over yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
This sounds crazy. I'm going with all K Crimson because
I think I've heard the name here on a Sunday before.
I think our K Crimson is a pretty good player
in women's handbles. Not going with the Crimson.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Unfair advantaged.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Well I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
That's it. That's it, Okay, we'll see what happened next.
Swollen Dome right here, Fox Sports Sunday. Here we go,
Greenings and welcome in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
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(01:20:26):
alongside the greatness that is Andy Furman, broadcasting legend at
Andy Furman FSRS where you find him in the Twitter
slash ex world. And then we've got Jason Fitz with
us again this week. Welcome in, a man of many
paths that bring us here on a beautiful Fox Football
Sunday music entertainment, and a long history here and now

(01:20:49):
dominating the fantasy football world. So we'll do some sleeper
talk next week. Our next hour, I should say next week.
I'm already advancing the calendar. It's that early in the morning,
because guys, I've been fueled by hate in the overnight.
In my sporting universe, normally a man of great positivity, clarity,
and calm. All of those things are untrue for anybody

(01:21:10):
that's known me for more than five minutes. But for
the sake of argument, that's where we're at. I stayed
up late so you didn't have to watching Arizona and
USC deep into the night where it ended on two
point conversion tries. It becomes one of these scourges of
my sports existence, how we try to end great contests

(01:21:30):
with terrible rules in the end, like penalty kicks and soccer,
the ghost runner on second base in baseball, and then
when you get to the second overtime that you have
to go for two, followed by the third overtime where
you have nothing but two point conversions. Gentlemen, good morning.

(01:21:51):
I feel the pain of staying up way too late.
How are we all doing this fine morning. What's going on? Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Everything's wonderful. You know what you hit the nail on
that you don't normally say a lot of small things,
let's be honest, rogue, but you hit it on that
head right now. You really did? You know? With these
overtime games soccer? To me, these guys play one hundred
and twenty minutes and it comes down to penalty kicks?
Are you freaking kidding me? And I happen to watch
that Netflix special on David Beckham if you haven't seen that,

(01:22:18):
that's wonderful. I mean, really, David be I mean I
have a whole new feeling for I love him. I
love him, I love his wife, Posh for the spice
girl that you probably And I'll tell you what, Jason,
you probably know Posh you probably.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
No, No, no, I wish I knew Posh Passua, look
at Pasua were friends. That'd be a first introduction. But like, hey, guys,
I've Jason Fitz. Everybody calls me fits and by the way, uh,
Paspa is my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Like, I'll tell you what I want, what I really
really want.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Yes, yeah, I guess yeah, no, But you're dead on
with with the over the overtime deals that baseball rules
is the most ridiculous rule ever heard of. Because you
got a guy in second base, you get two sacrifice flies, bing, bing,
you win the game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
You guys are so right and so wrong all at once.
Penalty kicks are a delight. Like, I love penalty kicks.
It's traumatic, it's enticing. In fact, I'm a big hockey fan.
And penalty shots. I love penalty shots. It's exciting. It's
a great way to end a regular season game. I
think there's a lot of love to that. That being said,
college football over time, inherently, top to bottom, is trash.

(01:23:21):
It's poorly constructed. None of it is meaningful. It's awful
in every possible way. NFL overtime rules are better than
college football overtime rules, and people love to yell about
the NFL portion of it. I still think it's broken
in the NFL. I don't think frankly, I think sudden
death is the way to go. I don't care if
somebody gets the opportunity to possess the ball one more time, like,
there's still going to be inevitability to that. But the

(01:23:43):
fact that you're giving everybody the ball so close to scoring,
and then you're just saying, okay, like if they wanted
to do possession from possession but start on the other
end of the field, I'd at least respect it. But
you're basically putting them every team in a situation where
you're gonna ask for these little trick stupid plays that
may or may not work, and the best team doesn't
always win through the course of overtime anyway, the way

(01:24:05):
it's constructed is just such an advantage to offense. I
hate every second of college football over time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Yeah, I really, well, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
You make a point, dude, the sudden death thing, I
throw it out the window as well. Just have an
extra period, play like an extra ten minute, eight minutes,
whatever it may be, because a sudden death the other
team may not get a chance to get the po
I just play an extra period, put some time on
the clock, make it five minutes, make it eight minute,
whatever it may be. But I disagree with you with
the with the penalty kicks and sockey hats dramas. There's

(01:24:33):
no doubt about that. But the point there is to
play one hundred and twenty plus minutes and to come
down to that it's a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
It's it's ridiculous as one who's watched many a tournament,
and that maybe this is my own hatred of it,
for the amount of time invested in children's athletics, you know,
with my daughter's squads, the number of times that tournaments
that you've traveled thousands of miles to go to with
thousands of dollars and played four or five games and

(01:25:00):
horrible heat and conditions and everything else to come down
to you, all right, does Jane accidentally kick the ball
over the crossbar or not? After playing all those games?
Just irks me. I don't know that she's ever played
any with anybody named Janie, So I didn't throw anybody
under the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
No, But I'm I'm adult enough to admit that I'd
never considered that portion of the angle. Like I don't
have kids, so I think just think of everything as
sitting in the stands as a fan, and I think
especially for soccer, like I love going to Nashville, for example,
the Nationalists soccer stadium is beautiful. Love going to games.
I'm just there for the experience, right, Like, I'm just

(01:25:38):
there to have a good time. So it's almost like
going to a concert where you don't really care about
the band, so you just want to watch a bunch
of upbeat songs and have a good time. That's how
I am with it. If I had skin in the
game in the way that you just mentioned, it would
completely change my perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
You're a athlete, you played dodgeball. What about dodgeballing over.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
To the I was a fact dodge I took dodgeballs
to the face, all right, Like I wasn't you know,
like I've been. My athletic career was not one of
a tremendous success and prowess. Like I'm willing to admit that.
But you know, hey, anything that ends my dodgeball to
the face experience faster, I'm in for. So give me
some dodgeball.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Going to overtime is tied. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Don't you remember the movie? So yeah, each had one
and then remember Lafleur had had blindfolded himself and then
he felt the force and he dodged it, and then
he took down why Goodman and sent him down a
spiral to fried chicken pizza and uh, being overweight after
you know, the body being a temple that's what happens,

(01:26:41):
the shame, the degradation of dodgeball. Okay, based on what
the movie had to say. Anyway, Anyway, Arizona loses to
USC and and maybe part of that angst from that
game fellas comes out of the fact that I do
broadcast out of Los Angeles. I have a lot of
USC people who just say it are starting to get

(01:27:02):
insufferable again like they were during the Pete Carroll era
with Caleb Williams and strutting around and everything. So for
them to suddenly have a bunch of issues against Arizona
again this time at home, you know, it was kind
of delicious theater and I may or may not have
called for the upset on Friday Night Show with Jason Smith,

(01:27:23):
So you know, I was kind of wanting to be
right because, let's face it, in the college and pro
football worlds this year, trying to get things right has
been really bit of a roll at the dice in
a lot of ways, based on the way some of
these teams have come out and played through the first
quarter of the season. I know, you guys were going
through some surprises, some good, some bad, some ugly through

(01:27:45):
the first quarter of the season, Andy, what's the temperature
of things around the greater Cincinnati era right now? Is
today the Operation Shutdown game? Should Cincinnati lose.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Well, I think this is it. I mean, they lose
today and I think the will I think they will
lose Arizona because I said to Fitzy early on, I
think the Arizona defense is better than the Bengals offense.
That's the problem. And I've got a lot of guys
on the injury shelf, and certainly I think it's easy
to scheme against the Bengals right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
You blitz because he can't move, Joe Burrow can't move,
he's not mobile. You just go after him my dead center,
head on and you get him. He'll either throw a
bad pass, throw an I int oh, you sack him.
That's what you do. So and I saw what Arizona
did in the red zone against Dallas. When they beat Dallas,
they stopped them four out of five times. They could
easily do that to the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Bengals sitting all the way down at thirty first in
scoring offense right now, only the Giants are more feudal?

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Is not some point though, where we put this on
the coaching staff. I mean, I put on you right
now if you're gonna play him, which I wouldn't have
done in the first place. But if you're going to
play him, then don't you have to figure out some
way to adjust your offense. And I'm not just talking
about adjust your offense as in, don't have Joe Burrow
move around. I'm talking about if you know to your
point that you're gonna be blitzed, then you've got one

(01:29:05):
of the best white receivers in the world. Like, yeah,
find some way to be creative and slow that blitz down.
Like I just this, this matches something. And look, it's
always hard to to evaluate coaches until they have great quarterbacks.
But if you go all the way back to the
rookie season for Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow working together,
I felt like back then there was no offensive line

(01:29:25):
and they were still just letting Burrow throw the ball
sixty sixty five times a game. It was like coaching malpractice. Like,
at some point, do we not expect some great creativity
from good offensive minds to be able to figure out
a way to protect an injured quarterback, because we're certainly
not seeing that for the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Yeah, to this point, you've got Chase, you know, talking
about being open all day. He's got forty one targets.
So ten a game, I mean, that's pretty much what
you're anticipating, right ten to twelve, especially when you've got
Higgins and Boyden. Now, Higgins's gonna miss today's game from
all reports as we flow through, but you know they
were on the list of the surprises, but you played Burrow.

(01:30:02):
To your point, Jason, I agree fully, it's the you're
playing for January, not for September. And I know based
on the schedule, and this is where you get into
in addition to all the dopey overtime and end of
game rules to things. I hate the NFL scheduling mechanism
as it works in some of these cases where you

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play just a ridiculous number of games against division fos,
either early in the season or you have one of
those All right, we've got you, followed by you know
whatever team here, and then we play you again basically
a home and a home. You know, in the final
three weeks of a season. Well by then everybody's beaten
the hell, so it's like which team looks more like

(01:30:45):
they were supposed to in September. You've got a definitive
advantage down the stretch. Like you look at Baltimore's schedule
thus far. After today, they will have played all three
of their road division games after five weeks of a season.
Tell me how that makes any sense. They had Week
two against Cincinnati, they played at Cleveland last week, and

(01:31:08):
they played Pittsburgh this morning slash early afternoon. I mean,
that's just scheduling malpractice.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
I don't know what fixes that. I'm the first to
admit that the NFL schedule making is complicated, but there
should be basic guidelines that we're not going to do
the following things right like. And that's to your point.
There's got to be some balance in it. And one
of the most difficult things because I've always thought it's ridiculous.
We all flock to the NFL schedule release every year,

(01:31:37):
and it's funny to me because we know at the
last day of the season what the opponent's going to be.
In a quick Google search will tell you fourteen of
your seventeen opponents for your favorite team. How daring next
five years?

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
But you know, okay, just dare you try to take
away people's holidays, but we travel agents everywhere celebrate.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
You are right, though, that this is the one part
of it that we flocked to it. And it's like
you've had months to figure this out and you still
stink at it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
But I will say this, I give them credit in
this regard that until they made that change in the schedule,
a lot of these teams that had clinched would rest
their players the last two games or maybe last three games.
I'm looking at the Viking schedule that just popped up. Okay,
their last three games Detroit, Green Bay, Detroit, so at
least are division games. Will they be meaningful? I don't know.
They may very well be meaningful. But the point is this.

(01:32:27):
They put them on that schedule because in the past
they would play non conference games, non games that count,
and these teams that had clinched playoffs would rest their regulars,
which wasn't fair.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Oh, we didn't have a lot of that. I mean really,
the only team that got to do that with any
regularity was Indianapolis. And maybe you saw it a little bit,
you know, a player here or there, but it never
got to be like load management in the NBA, where
you'd have guys shut down for months at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Yeah, and I'm not like, look, I'll be the one
idiot that is, But how many people are going to
be flocking to that juggernaut of a last week matchup
between the Broncos and the Raiders. Like what you're saying,
I'll be there two baby, let's go. I'll be watching
it in my misery, realizing that. You know, in that moment,

(01:33:15):
I'll be like, this team stinks and they're never going
to be better. And then about a month later, I'll
be like, you know, what's not that bad? It's four
or five changes.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
That's what's happening in Chicago right now. Look at the
schedule of the next five weeks. You beat a bad
commander's team and everybody's excited. Let me just let me
just finish the loop here. Well, at least for a moment.
They've got a bandage on it, and somehow we're able
to trade Chase Claypool. I think people pop bottles of champagne.
Uh when that happened. I mean, there are very few

(01:33:42):
times that you trade away a player and everybody looks around, going,
we got something back for the guy. Everybody, we got
something back for the guy. Baltimore. The final six weeks
of the season, they have one division game. They finished
the season with a home dating against Pittsburgh. They played
Cleveland and Cincinnati before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
So and that's great because it could be an injury factor.
I mean, it's it's just lucky the way that worked out.
Is it fair? I don't think it's fair. It's not right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
But in the end, when we get into these scheduling
algorithms and we start going, well, look how many miles
they travel. Travel is not the same as thirty years ago,
fellas you know, whenever we do those things, they're going
to travel so many more miles because of this, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
It doesn't mean travel in the NFL is it's a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Unless you're the Steelers because they've had like plane issues
multiple weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Well, unless you're going to London and Jacksonville stay there
for an entire week for two games.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
And even then in London, then what do you do?
Take a nap?

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
And if you're the Steelers and you have plane issues,
this isn't a hot take. Go buy a new plane.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
No, that's that's the thing. You gotta you gotta go
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(01:35:50):
in the National Football League, and it's a stress free
week for young Mike harmon as the Bears have already
won this week. Yes, I had to check it twice.
I was on air for that Fellas on Thursday night
and at times I was just speechless watching the Bears
go up and down. Still want to know whether DJ
Moore was actually out of bounds because it seems like

(01:36:12):
referees are having a little issue with their site shadows
and things along the sidelines this year. But victory formation
for Chicago and to hear everybody talk about it, and
you know, look, with the show is what it is.
You react in the moment and you say, okay with
the schedule that is now on tap. Minnesota, your Raiders, Jason,

(01:36:36):
the Chargers here on a beautiful Sunday night where I
may or may not be inebriated with seventy thousand of
my closest friends at New Orleans, Carolina and before November
nineteenth game against Detroit, let's go Hope Springs. Eternal Mark
is standing at the board just laughing and he's like, yeah,
it's the Bears, let's see. Let's me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
I just I gotta clarify something because telling you right
now and behalf of Raiders fans everywhere, we're looking at
the schedule and saying, Hey, the Packers are beatable. Got
the Bears coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
That's beatable.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Like, so y'all looking at the Raiders like a winnable game.
Raiders fans are looking at the Bears and saying, yeah,
we got that. Like Raiders about to run off three
straight wins. So you know, I'm like, I feel good
about where things are going. Like hear me speaking differently
about that game after it happens, good sir.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Oh, and you have to realize one thing. The Chicago
Bears do one thing. They win one game a year.
They had not won after Thursday since October four, October
the twenty fourth, twenty twenty two, so it's like one
day a year. It's like Christmas really, so next October
you'll get your next win.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Look at you, Wow, you're lucky. There's thousands of miles
separating us right now. Furman, I'm sorry that I can
jump on you like a spider monkey.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
The Bengals.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
It's about of anger in that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
Yeah, this is between the Bengals, the Bears, and the Raiders.
On this show particularly, is there a show living more
in the barrel of suck with three hosts Now hosts
than the three of us are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Like, I'm just saying now we all need some more
hostess based on the level of suck in those three teams,
to try to eat our feelings. I did that the
other day, as like, you know, after the passing of
the Great Dick Budkis, I had made carnitis from scratch, so,
you know, long process marinating all that fun stuff, and
I'm like, you know what, I am now going to

(01:38:27):
eat my feelings after this news.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Maybe we disas too, what do we do?

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Karma's coming after us.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Maybe so I maybe, you know, maybe we suck so
we get the teams that suck.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Wait, wait, okay, okay, here's the thing. I will argue
that I have probably done plenty of things in my
life to deserve maybe even five years. I'll give you
six seven years of it. I remember boys, and this
is all my fault, but I remember that the rich
Cannon era for my beloved Raiders, And after the Super
Bowl loss, I remember looking at one of my buddies
and saying, you know, because that was the string he

(01:38:59):
had lost the Super Bowl and weird ways lost to
the tuck rule game that Tony Saragusa hit on again
and that levels the Raiders in the playoffs against the Ravens,
like year after years weird endings in the playoffs. And
I remember looking at my buddy and I said, you
know what, I'd rather not even make the playoffs and
get hurt this way every single year in the playoffs,
not realizing that by saying that, I was essentially saying

(01:39:20):
candy Man in the mirror, because like at that point,
thirteen straight it was thirteen straight years of double digit
losses after that. So I realized, like, but hey, football gods,
hear me loud, hear me proud. Here I realized the
stupidity of my ways. I would take anything just to
have a few years of playoffs back to back to
back in a reasonably good football team. I am sorry,
football gods, it's my fault.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Okay, but you knew the Raiders and Bears would be bad. Okay,
they predicted the Bengals to be in the super Bowl.
They may not even make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
No, it's it's because you all got too cocky, like
when they walked down jew thing that just happened by Jason,
And it's something Andy and I have talked about in
the past.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Sorry, Andy, I got to bring up all you know,
rip the scab off this one when they those fans
were leaving the stadium after losing to the Rams. I
was at that Super Bowl. I've never seen a happier
team in defeat in the fan base, assuming this was
going to be a rite of passage, was going to

(01:40:17):
become yearly traditions. And I'm like, my brother and I
were incense right the play calling and everything in the
fourth quarter, and we left disappoint We had no skin
in the game other than we went. But just being
football fans, we're walked off, kind of ticked off. And
all these folks were just excited. It's like, oh, southern
California and this time of year, so, I mean, I
understand a little of that, right, vacation getting out of

(01:40:39):
the Midwest, but it was just this, all right, you know, hey,
we're happy to have been there, right, don't be mad
it's over. Be glad it's happen. I'm like, hold on, now,
that's not the way these things work. To go talk
to Dan Marino about that. That guy's been carrying around
anger for forty years because he never got back.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Dick Buckus never went to a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
I mean, those teams stunk. You had two of the
greatest players the game of football has ever seen in
him and Gail Sayers. And what do you got out
of it? Brian Song and in a city that loves
you like no other? All right, I gotta call what
it is, all right, but you exactly what.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
After the Bengals did lose to the Rams, defans were
hollering and dancing the dynasty Star Dynasty. You can't predict that.
It's a lot of luck goes into it. You have
to have talent, for sure, but a lot of luck
goes into No one's talking the fact that Jesse Bates
and von Bella no longer there. That's a big loss
for that team.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
You lose players and staying healthy. And it goes back
to the earlier conversation about schedules and we can't predict
when injuries will happen, but they will. I mean, it fits.
You could talk about it with your Raiders, right Remember
that year the magic of Hey Car is gonna win MBP.
We they missed no games due to injury. They were

(01:41:57):
the healthiest team we've ever seen until he was laying
on the ground yelling it's broke, it's broke, it's broke,
and that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
I was so confident that year things had gone so
well that that was It was right right around Christmas
time and little family gathering. We were all playing board games,
and I was like, hey, you know what, pretty easy
game against the Colts doesn't really matter. The Raiders playoff
is secured. Let's just put it on a little TV
over here and we'll be fine. And I was playing
Yachtzi and I remember my role, and I just sat

(01:42:26):
there with the dice in front of me, and you know,
nobody else at the table's big football junkie. So all
I saw was like the look, the look on my face,
and somebody was like, you okay, and I was like, no, no,
I'm not okay. And I just watched Derek Carr go
down and I knew. I knew then that I can't
have nice things like see. But then I thought, like, Okay,
everything's gonna be fine. Because at the time the Raiders'

(01:42:47):
message boards of the time, we're all everybody was trying
to figure out, well, how's this team going to keep Carr,
Mac and Cooper together? Because this looks like an era
of dominance. Yeah, we see how that went. See how
that went. So you know that's why I drink, y'all.
Like it's just you know, like I'm gonna go somewhere
from Monday night football tomorrow night, and I'm gonna make
the decision based on two important things. On where I'm

(01:43:08):
gonna watch that game. I'm not gonna watch at home.
I'm gonna go out and about now. I'm gonna make
that decision based on which place has the strongest cocktails
and the best dessert menu, because I'm gonna eat and
drink my feelings. That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
That's what do you do the same thing if they want?
So what's the difference? You still would eat and drink
if they want, and we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
Look because it feels better. The extra piece of cake
feels better when it's celebratory cake, not sad cake.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
That's what's the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
But you're changing your stamps because normally it's a box
of chocolate donuts, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Mean that's the starter. I mean, that's that's Sunday appetizer. Yeah,
that's the appetizer. I'm mixing it up this week.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
You know, what. It's not gonna be the box of
double chocolate donuts. It's gonna be pieces of cake and
maybe a milkshake with some alcohol in it. Like I'm
it's still gonna be sweets, y'all. It's just it's gonna
be different.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
I got i gotta place down the street from me
that makes boozy cakes. I'll make sure to send you one.
We can share our misery, no question about it. And
as he thinks about that, Derek Carr hit on the
song Fix You by Coldplay will continue to go through
his head. We're gonna talk Cowboys and forty nine ers
coming up momentarily, but first the two minute drill. We're
with our guy Kevin Wired on everything going on in

(01:44:13):
our sporting universe. Yeah, we just got some injury updates
and NFL news leading up to this slate of games.
So wide receiver Chase Claypool, he just got traded from
the Bears to the Dolphins. He's not expected to play today.
It's just too quick of a turnaround between getting traded
from Chicago to Miami. That's according to Ian Rappaport Tom

(01:44:33):
Pelliasero also saying that wide receiver Jamison Williams of the Lions,
is expected to play a limited role around twenty snaps
or so in his return from his gambling suspension. Lion's
gonna be likely without running back Jamiir Gibbs and wide
receiver a mon Ross. Saint Brow Gibs officially downgraded to doubtful.
Ian Rappaport with some updates overnight as Derek Carr, listened

(01:44:57):
as questionable with the right shoulder injury, will play Toda Day.
He's in a better place health wise than he was
last week with that ac joint sprain. Texan's getting a
couple of key offensive lineman. Back tackle Laramie Tunsel and
right tackle Titus Howard both expected to play today. Bengals
wide receiver t Higgins has a cracked rib, so he's

(01:45:19):
not expected to be on the field. He's listed as questionable, However,
Trey Hendrickson is expected to play. Cornerback Chadobia Woozy is
a game time decision. Von Miller has not played since
last November when he tore his aco, but he is
expected to make his season debut in London in about
an hour or so against the Jaguars, although he will

(01:45:39):
be on a limited pitch count. So he'll be on
there and third down and obvious passing situations. Ravens wide
receiver Odell Beckham expected to play today. He's been spending
the last two weeks treating tendonitis in his foot. Ronnie
Stanley and Marlon Humphrey also expected to play. Rams wide

(01:46:00):
receiver Cooper Cup he's been on the injured reserve for
the last four weeks with an injured hamstring. He has
been activated. He will play today and he is not
expected to have any limitations against the Eagles and the Broncos,
saying they want to work out running back Devonte Williams,
who's questionable with the quad injury, in pregame warmups before
deciding whether or not he can play. That is according

(01:46:23):
to Adam Schefter and one more from Ian Rappaport. Giant's
not expected to have Sakwon Barkley in today's game against
the Dolphins. He's still dealing with a high ankle spraying
back to you guys, thanks so much, Kevin Yeah. Also
down in several offensive linemen. The misery continues for the
New York Football Giants. They had all their run long
long ago, and a couple of big moments against Tom Brady.

(01:46:44):
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Mark Cowboys. Let's get it on. One of the games
of the day. Sunday Night football is where we will

(01:47:05):
see them get together. When we look at the lines
and all of the fun and excitement, we are looking
at a three and a half point spread forty nine
ers favorite at home. Forty five is your total. When
you break it down, you've got the third and fourth
best scoring offenses in the game and also the top
and third ranked tied defenses in the game in terms

(01:47:28):
of points allowed. I'll preface it by saying this. Steve Young,
in an interview with the NBC Bay Area quote, Cowboys
constant believe they're the greatest. I mean, it's amazing, like
I got a star in my helmet.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
I'm great.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
You're like, no, you're not, You're not. And I think
one of the issues they have as an organization, it's
hard to overcome is that they're great when they put
the helmet on. Will they be great tonight, Andy Furman, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
They may not be great, but I think they're gonna
be good enough to win. I'll tell you what, because
I think that Dallas pass Russ is gonna upset the
forty nine. They got defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence, linebacker Michael Parsons.
They're going to blow up San Francisco's offensive line. That
pass rush will expose that suspect offensive line of San Francisco.
And you talk about for a storyline that I think
has been buried all year long, this brock Party situation.

(01:48:16):
I watched him last year and the NFC Championship game
when his elbow was hanging down to his leg. Okay,
he's back, and he may even be better than playing
last year. He's four and zero, completing seventy two percent
of his passes league leading one hundred and fifteen passer rating.
And this is after completing sixty seven percent of his
passes one hundred and seventy three point three passer rating

(01:48:39):
in nine games, going five and zero as a starter,
and last year's regular season. That's one hell of a
story and it gets overshadowed, but it won't be good
enough tonight because the Cowboys win.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
You are close, but no, Cigar, you are right and
everything you just said about brock Party, but that's the
exact reason that they will win this game. I think
Rock Party, the analogy I keep making is like Voltron.
Like by himself, he may not be this powerful robot,
but when you put him together with the coaching staff
and the weapons he has, which is by the way,
his new reality that he'll be with every single week
for the next several years, he's dominant. And that there

(01:49:13):
is an ability of rock Perty to be efficient in
all things. He's not phased. He's able to read defense
as well. Nothing seems to surprise him. And by the way,
Christian McCaffrey is the MVP of the NFL. So you
send that pass rush all day long, but you're still
gonna have to account for Christian McCaffrey not only running
the football, but also out of the backfield. I don't
think Dallas can be able to do that. I think
the forty nine Ers are the best team in the

(01:49:34):
NFL right now. They'll go in, they will show Dallas
what's up, and they will continue to rise to the
top of the mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
Elijah Mitchell, there you go. I was like you needed
the ground swell of music behind you, like when the
great Paul Hayman was announcing brack party for the NFC
title game on Fox. So we do. We celebrate greatness,
and he's one of the fine stories and proving that
staying in college and having a lot of reps in
college sometimes works out well for you, even if you

(01:50:02):
still have to split and rent with a roommate and
drive a twelve year old truck, which he's kind of
doing by choice, because eight hundred thousand is nothing to
sneeze at, fellas. I don't know about you, but I'd
like to be in that tax bracket. Elijah Mitchell. Gonna
miss this game for the forty nine ers, meaning you'll
see a little bit of Jordan Mason and Davis Price
behind Christian McCaffrey. But I agree with you, Jason, I

(01:50:24):
think this has potential burial opportunity here. Oh yeah, well,
we'll see about that defensive pressure getting after Dak Prescott.
How good are the Cowboys, I guess is really the
question here. You beat up on the Giants, Jets and
the Patriots. Three teams that we would right now all
argue are what top bottom five or six in the league.

(01:50:48):
And then you lost because you got punched in the
mouth by James Connor and the plucky I heard you
use the word before, these flucky Arizona Cardinals. So right now,
through four games, even if you put up some ball
numbers offensively, you've done it against you know, you can
only play who's on the schedule. But that still leads
a lot of questions here in week five, at least

(01:51:08):
where I sit.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Well, you know what if you want to use that
as an excuse or your reasoning.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Reas forty nine is played, they beat him a bad
Pittsburgh team. They destroyed then thirty to seven, the Rams,
this so so, but they beat him only by a score.
The Giants they beat up fairly badly, and they came
back and beat up on Arizona. So who do they play?
So that goes out the window to the scheduling, because
basically you got to play who's on your schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
No, yeah, but there's a difference. So because the Cowboys
have that same week schedule and also have a big
mark on that schedule that the forty nine ers don't have,
Like we just can't forgive the fact that not only
Arizona did Arizona win, but Arizona controlled the line of
scrimmage like they ran the book down their throat and.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
They stopped them in the red zone like four to
five times. I get it. I understand that. And they
do have a common opponent in Arizona, and the forty
nine is beat up Arizona thirty five to sixteen. I
understand that. But reasons are exc now, Andy means nothing
for tonight means nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
There's still the Cowboys. I kind of agree with Steve Young.
As it flows through, we'll see what happens. That's the
way they play the games. We talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
The game is and we you know, forty out a
home game, it means a lot too.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
I think the beauty of Santa Clara, California still weird,
but you know they'll do all the shots of San
Francisco because well, Santa Clara's only got tech companies in
golf ranges down there. He's Andy Furman, that's Jason fitz Up.
Mike Carmon here on Fox Football Sunday. Coming up next
We've got three games to get through, and yes we

(01:52:40):
do have to talk about the Jets and Broncos at
least for a minute. Maybe that's all it's worth. We
may be more. We'll talk about it next to your
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(01:53:02):
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(01:53:46):
off instead of the way we do bye weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
I still think it's the best idea in the world. Like,
just just pause the season midway through, let everybody like
go do whatever you want with your family, show us
the quarterback challenge from the offseason, and then restart the
second half of the league. And that's a fair way
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:54:03):
I say, move some college football games to Sunday. Really,
they really should, because I don't want to see two
games at the same time. I know, Jase, you got
four TVs going at once. I can't do that. I'm
not that snop. I can't. I can't do it. You've
just opened my eyes to something.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
You do this doing rivalry week in college football, which
is one of the most special weeks, and everybody wants
to see the big rivalry games. You spread the rivalry
games over the whole weekend. Bam, Oh, we're fixing the world.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
We just do that on Tuesdays and Wednesdays alongside matching.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Okay, if you're if you were watching maction to that
level at that point in the season. My friend you
may have a problem. We might want to sit down,
and you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
Do it on Tuesday because I'm watching the Matt Conference
play in American Conference football.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Okay, guys, we gotta we gotta work on that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
All right, Let's get back into the games so we
can knock down the bad, deep dark road of my
problems in sports.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Jets and Broncos.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
Jets and Broncos later on today. Yes, they will play
this game. The public sentiments lady to come on board.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
To the why are they so mean?

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
To Zach Wilson Denver two and a half point favorites
coming off of that huge win the comeback against the Bears.
Forty three and a half is your total. In the
injury notes, Davante Williams will not play most likely, which
means more. Jaleel McLaughlan, Yes, the guy. His name is Jaliel.
It's the first time Jaliel has been a big deal

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since nineteen eighty nine when Family Matters premiered Rivalry grudge Match.
I did not get the laugh I anticipated.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
I remember Reginald vel Johnson the same.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
Way I look. I was smiling. I wasn't laughing at
that got the cute inside chuckle instead of the laugh
out loud. I got them out of it. But that
was good.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
I appreciate we got a guy named Jalil. All right, so, Jason,
since you at least acknowledged me, like I'm Roman reigns
acknowledge me, What do you say, who wins the grudge
match here? Sean Payton? Is he going back to genius
status or do the Jets have something for him to
really abuse that terrible Denver defense?

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
First and foremost little note, maybe you could have given
us like your best did I do that sort of
moment and there would have been.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Rob Parker does that. So you know, I don't want
to Hy's territory. I'm just giving it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
Just just appreciate that, Okay, all right, uh no, this
this game look for I have a bias at this
point for the rest of the season, and that bias
just makes sure that the Broncos don't end up with
the worst record in the NFL, because if I take
on Caleb Williams, I quit football. So you know, I
look at this and I say, look, I need the
Broncos to get some wins. That being said, this feels
like they're sort of the game that the Jets should

(01:56:34):
be able to go out and win. Not It has
nothing to do with Zach Wilson and has everything to
do with Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson's cook. You guys know,
I'm not a believer at this point. But the other
part of it is that Jets defense is still that
Jets defense, right, So my expectation is that the Jets
defense will come out and be able to stemy what
limited offense the Broncos had been able to put together.

(01:56:55):
It points are going to be at a premium for
the Broncos to get in this game, which takes a
lot of the pressure off of Zach Wilson in this process.
I think the Jets win this game in an ugly
close football game.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
Andy, he got a good Our Gang reference in by
using the word steimy, So you agree.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
To go right, yeah, right right. Denver's defense is allowing
one hundred and seventy six rushing guards a game. So
right now, if I'm Breese Hole or DALPHN. Cook, I
was smacking my lips. Okay, It's gonna be a close
game because I think the Broncos offense has somewhat improved
on the Sean Payton, but New York's defense is better
than their offense. Broncos will lose this game. Jets will win,

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but they'll win bye. Maybe a field goal. Close game.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
Yeah, they broke the seals. Saust Gardener actually got called
for a hold. I don't know if you guys saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Next, did see that? Yes? Chiefs and Vikings.

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
Chiefs and Vikings one of the games of the day.
This one's got some sauciness to it. The Chiefs a
three and a half point road favorite. Fifty three is
your total here. You're looking at a Chiefs defense, guys
allowing just fifteen points per game. Andy has start with you.
Does that offense start to get moving against Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
D You look at the Vikings have a league high
eleven turnovers. That's killed the Vikings and if it wasn't
for the Panthers, they'd be zero and four right now.
But you look at a guy like Kirk Cousins. He's
passed for the third most yards of the NFL thos
for this year, so we'll see what's gonna happen right there.
And you look at Brian Flores, brought in to Minnesota
to kind of help the defense. This guy Flores is

(01:58:21):
known as a blitching defensive guy. If he blitches Kansas City,
oh my goodness, Patrick Mahomes will have a field day
and the Chiefs win today. Anyway, the hard part about.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
This is the Vikings weren't as good as their record
last year, and they're not as bad as their record
this year. But you know, bad teams find a way
to lose, and that's exactly what Minnesota does in weird
ways every single week. I don't love where the Chiefs
offense is, but that's an annual tradition. It'll be fine
as the season goes on. I don't trust Kirk Cousins,
and this Chiefs defense deserves a lot of crep for
being credit for being better than people realize. I think

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the Chiefs role in this one.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
All right, Final game, Packers and Raiders. I notice we
only have like thirty seconds. That's about what it deserves.
Adams and Garoppolo question marks for tomorrow. Jason, it's your team.

Speaker 1 (01:59:07):
Raiders went Big, Raiders went Big Raiders. I need this America.
Just let me have this mont It for his soul.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Andy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
I hate to pick against my Pardner here, but I'll
tell you what The Raiders aren't good enough on the
line of scrimmage on either side of the ball pack
US win.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
There you go, Fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
Raiders a narrow two point favorite forty five your total,
Andy Furman, thank you for the quick hour. Jason and
I continue next Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.
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You hear him Saturday mornings on the Fellas in with
Us again today, So good to have you hear mister Fitz.
How's Sunday morning shaping up for you? As you ponder

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a day without a potential loss? The range lightle tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
The look these sea Sundays are weird. It's almost you know,
I'm gonna be the one person in America that says
this not a big fan of Monday night football like
I love you know yesterday and let me paint this
picture for you because I spent a lot of my
time in Connecticut. Right, So you go out with friends
in Connecticut to watch college football, there might be ten
people in a sports bar. It just doesn't resonate in

(02:00:33):
New England the way it does in other parts of
the country. And that's fine. But yesterday I go hang
out with my buddy in Nashville. I walk into a house.
It's just jam packed with everybody. The vibe and the
energy is through the roof, like everybody's yelling and screaming
at all the TVs even didn't matter if you had
a vested interest or not. Suddenly Maryland Ohio State was
interesting because it was just college football fanatics in a

(02:00:54):
room loving it right. So that goes all the way
to your point as you came in this morning, all
the way to the wee hours of the morning with
USC taking on Arizona and everybody watching that thinking could
this be the stumble of USC?

Speaker 3 (02:01:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
And so then you wake up today and you've got
an early morning gaming he had all day Sunday, and
I don't get to have that same level of joy
for all of it, like Monday night football. It's it's
just doesn't hit for me. The same way I like
Sunday night football is the end of the Oh my god,
I need this in my veins injected here. Monday is
supposed to be a day of rest and recuperation from
a long, weeping weekend. So I don't even know how

(02:01:27):
to handle myself today.

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
Which is normally you know, historically, if you if you
want to get into religion a bit, you're supposed to
be resting on Sundays. Nope, wall to wall action, I
mean right now, the English Premier League just kicked off
a little west Ham and Newcastle getting after it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
Half easy to say that with a little bit more
snobbery though, like Premierly like.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
I've got to take an affected speech pattern.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
Perfect much much better.

Speaker 3 (02:01:52):
Because that's how I started. By Saturday. I was actually
just telling Shay and Mark h in our making it
sound so pretty our produce sure technical and executive producers
earlier this morning is I couldn't sleep yesterday. I'm diseased, right,
so it's it's the I go lay down to sleep
after my Friday show, me and Smith working to eleven

(02:02:13):
o'clock Pacific time. You know, you unlined whatever by the
time you actually fall asleep. Whatever, it's one o'clock in
the morning, maybe a little later. And then all of
a sudden, I shot up, like you know, like I
was out of a cannon. About four o'clock. It's like,
all right, it's time to get up. It's like it
really wasn't time to get up. I had nowhere to
be at nine o'clock. But then I looked around. I'm like, well,
I'm awake. What's on. Oh, it's a pre good for

(02:02:34):
the Premier League. Let's go. And it kicked off at
four thirty Pacific time, and I was there with rapt
attention and a giant cup of coffee, ready to go
see they into a full day of college football.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
So I respect that Saturdays are weird, not that anybody
in America cares, but they're weirdly long for me because
I do get to I get to hang out, you know. Obviously,
Saturday morning, the fellas we have a blast, we have
a great time. And then all day during Saturday I
have to create. I have to I get to create
content for Yahoo around college football that we don't end
until the last game ends on Saturday. So sometimes Saturdays

(02:03:08):
are a solid twenty hour day for me. But it's
not work because you're just sitting around watching football and
then you set up a camera and react for two minutes,
like it's the easiest thing in the world to do.
I'm the luckiest guy in the world to get to
do it. But I feel, you like, because then I
wake up this morning and I just got that rush,
like there's an adrenalineo the weekends, when you know you
are chuck full of football all day. That hits different.
The only thing that is weird about the world is

(02:03:29):
that I feel like, and maybe this is my Southern
bias from twenty years in the South, I feel like
college football is a community day. Everybody's just sitting around
and it doesn't matter what the games are. Sundays are
much more about my favorite team is playing, do you
want to watch with me? And it's a much different
vibe in that sense, Like Sundays are much more intentional,
Like I don't have a lot of Sundays where I

(02:03:50):
just get a group of guys together that are saying, hey,
it doesn't really matter what games are on, let's just
sit on the couch and watch them all. But that
is what Saturdays are in the South. So little different energy.
But yeah, I know that it's going to feed me
all the way through Sunday night football. Then I'm going
to crash and sleep all day tomorrow and figure out
what time is an appropriate time to start consuming edibles
before the Raiders came Monday night.

Speaker 3 (02:04:09):
Well, I mean, look, you can start and it's five
o'clock somewhere right we celebrate the passing and the legend
that is Jimmy Buffett. That mantra remains, but we do
have a full slate and in a half hour we
get the Jaguars and Bill's another run with the Jaguars
for US overseas. I know they're showing all the stats.
Trevor Lawrence having another start in London. So the celebration

(02:04:34):
they're in. Last week they beat up on an Atlanta
squad and let's face it, they're not good. I heard
you and Andy chopping it up about where the Falcons
are right now. They're allergic to the forward pass. I
always joke that Jason Witten is one of the greatest
between the twenties tight ends I've ever seen, but that
he was allergic to the painted grass with the exception
of one or two years of his career. Right now,

(02:04:57):
the Falcons. They don't want to pass the football, and
they shouldn't because in theory they were built and constructed
to run the ball effectively. But they're not necessarily doing
that particularly well outside of a couple of bursts now
and again and highlight real stuff from b John Robinson
over all the offenses and flowing. But for the Jaguars,
we were talking in the studio here is as Iilo

(02:05:20):
is doing his update, like, yeah, it's Josh Allen versus
Josh Allen. You know, the Josh Allen that most folks
don't know about might terrorize Josh Allen of the Bills.
And you know, that game against the Jets might as
well have been twenty twenty two at this point, it
seems so long ago with the way that offense is
clicking right now and Stevan Diggs playing angry and he's

(02:05:40):
gonna be angrier because they stole money out of his
pocket for that beer celebration.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
Look, two things on this game. One, an importantly huge
advantage for the Jacks that they've been able to stay
over in London right like they just it's a huge advantage,
at least in theory it should be. But to the
fine the biggest question that have yet to have answered
to me. Stefan Diggs scores runs them, takes two beers,

(02:06:06):
smashes those beers together, that pours out the alcohol.

Speaker 3 (02:06:08):
We full stone cold Steve Austin absolutely and.

Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
I loved every second of it. But the first thing
I thought, because I am cheap, is how much of
those stadium beers cost. You're down to the front row.
Now you're gonna have to either get the beer guy
again or you're gonna have to go up to concessions
and wait for beer. You might be a solid half
an hour forty five minutes before you even get to
another beer. And then those things were probably twenty bucks each.
So of his fine, I just want to know, is

(02:06:33):
the NFL finding the fans and reimbursing them for the
beers that were maliciously taken from them, Like celebratory beer
for an NFL player is not a reason that I
want to have to buy another one. I'm just gonna
be honest.

Speaker 3 (02:06:44):
Now, remember these are bills fans we're talking about. I mean,
these are people that throw themselves through tables with regular herity.
I don't think the cost of another beer if they're
celebrating with Stefan Diggs and they're beating the tar out
of the Dolphins is going to affect them very much.
But he was fine, get this, thirteen six hundred and

(02:07:06):
fifty nine dollars for unsportsmanlike conduct, wasn't flagged on the
play and his fine for that and then doing the
two short motion after scoring that The fines he accrued
for those two things were far more than anybody for
a big hit, except for it was Jalen Warren a
couple of weeks ago got fined forty eight thousand dollars

(02:07:26):
for using his helmet. Otherwise, you got guys getting hit
out of bounds, you got guys with unnecessary roughness penalties
or whatever, and the fine schedule far less. And I
know they take into account a man's salary, but thirteen
grand for doing a stone cold celebration that you will
probably use as your gift for a week's action is

(02:07:47):
just absurd to me.

Speaker 1 (02:07:48):
That's the biggest part of it that you just said
right there that I think is hypocritical by the league,
because the NFL network has been showing that celebration as
part of their hut, like when they show the highlights
it's on TV. Everybody's gonna it's going to be repeatedly
shown as something that speaks to the magic of going
to a football game, right, Like you don't get to
find somebody for it and then use it as part
of what you use to advertise your sport. Like that

(02:08:11):
seems just absolutely asinine to me. And the fins that
we see for things like socks and you know whether
or not they're being worn by Tyers Hills.

Speaker 3 (02:08:20):
Seven seven thousand dollars for not wearing socks.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
It's like seven grands. I mean for seven thousand dollars,
I'll wear whatever socks you want me to wear, like let's.

Speaker 3 (02:08:28):
Be very clear about sure.

Speaker 1 (02:08:29):
But also there is just some level of lessons. It
cheapens what a fine system is intended to do if
you overfind for stupid things, because now all of a sudden,
when you actually have a real punishment and you want
to find somebody for it, it becomes laughable. If you
make a sock infraction, we're seven thousand dollars and a

(02:08:50):
late hit may be worth eleven thousand dollars. What are
you really saying about health and safety of players and
what message you're sending to players about whether or not
they should follow the rules. Just the way the NFL
figures out their fine structure, to me, makes absolutely no sense,
and it makes the league look bad every time we
see these numbers.

Speaker 3 (02:09:07):
Sometimes it feels like they're running a kangaroo court system
where they're building towards a year end party. All the
finds that have accrued. You know what, we'll actually get
stuff from a little better restaurant down the street. Okay,
maybe maybe we'll splurge and we'll get an extra you know,
a couple dozen chicken fingers.

Speaker 1 (02:09:26):
They're gonna get the extra l Presidente margarita from Chili's
for the year end party.

Speaker 3 (02:09:30):
That's it. You can get one of those. I'll even
splurge for the extra line. He's Jason Fitch. You hear
him with the Fellas and of course with us here
today does work over at Yahoo talking college football, talking
some fantasy football. A utility man, formerly in a band
and musical director. He's worn a lot of hats. We're

(02:09:50):
happy to have him in with us this morning. And
I say that to America obviously to you as well.
Good to have you here, Jason. To get to run
it back a little bit Bill minus five. I think
they route the Yeah, there's a Jaguars. There's no doubt
there's like the Bills. This game will be done well
before halftime. There any advantages we may have seen, And
I see the stats pushed out and I take them

(02:10:12):
all with the grain of salt. When you start going
into your Pro Football Focus rankings or whatever, some folks
use them as almost a cult like religion. But Trevor
Lawrence sitting at number two on their quarterbacks, I'm like,
how I watched the first four weeks of the season,
and I like Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars a lot.
To the point, we're coming into the year thinking the

(02:10:33):
South was the path of least resistance, not expecting suddenly
the Texans to raise their hand and saying we're not
going quietly into the good night just yet. I thought,
all right, the Jaguars offense comes back Ridley etn with
Christian Kirk, this is a team that could be dangerous.
And since I don't want to pick the Bengals because

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I didn't believe they'd be back, or just be lazy
and take the Chiefs again, I'm like, all right, let's
go off the grid. The Jaguars could make a run.
I've not seen anything to this point that makes me
believe they're that team through a quarter of the season.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
No, And I think that's one of the biggest shocks
because we expected a leap forward, and part of that's
based on the fact that Trevor Lawrence was so highly
tied of coming out and then didn't look good enough
in the beginning. Doug Peterson comes in and what did
we say last year? Competent coaching has saved this young
man and it has saved the relationship. And when Trevor

(02:11:28):
Lawrence was drafted, I said several times at the time
that the Jags would fail Trevor Lawrence. Before Trevor Lawrence
failed the Jags. But now what do we have. We
have this situation where I don't care what your metrics say.
You do have to actually watch these games and see
what he looks like. And I'll defer to my buddy
that covers the Jags, and I asked him what do
the Jags do well right now? And a week ago
his answer was absolutely nothing. Everything that was supposed to

(02:11:50):
be a strength looks confusing right now. They don't look
like they're in sync. They don't have any rhythm. I
thought Calvin Ridley would come out with the thunder of
the Gods this year. He did Week one at times,
and I thought, oh, this affirms everything we expected. But
to your point, it's a Jags team where nothing looks
easy right now, and I'm not sure one hundred percent
what their intended identity is. I don't know what they're

(02:12:11):
trying to accomplish. More weeks than not. The Jags last
year felt like they had this special sauce to him.
This year, it feels like that sandwich with the special
sauce has been left out of the fridge too long
and everything's just sort of questionable. You're like, is this
meat still good? That's where we are with the Jackson
They have plenty of time to get it right and
plenty of talent to get it right. But right now
I can't definitively tell you that I think the Jacks

(02:12:32):
are gonna win that division. They've shown me nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:12:35):
Ridley with that huge first week last week, he did
find the end zone, but three of four weeks he
has been at forty receiving yards or fewer. And remember
the Jags, all they did was solve a Brandon Stay
defense in the second half of a game last year.
I say that as I look at our guy, Isaac
lowenkron scene if I could prompt a response on him,

(02:12:57):
and he just started laughing and made a gesture that
I won't bring on air. As the Chargers are enjoying
their bye week, yes week five bye, and rarely do
you say, hey, this is a good one for a team.
They're banged up, they're hurt. You even had Justin Herbert
with the hand injury last week. So all of that
adds up to, all right, take the week off, set

(02:13:19):
it and reset because I need a big battle against
the Bears at the end of the month, and if
they flex out of that game, I will go and
cause problems in the league office. He's Jason Fitz. Hey,
I'm celebrating it on Sunday Night football, baby, unless they
screw me. He's Jason fitz I'm buy carbon. This is
Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. And we got an
announcement yesterday that I think left everybody a little shocked.

(02:13:41):
In between all of our college football watching, an alert
that came across your phone. You went, hey, we'll make
it make sense next on Fox Welcome back in Fox
Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio Live from the Tirerack dot
Com studios, Mike Carmon alongside Jason Fitz As we get
ready the final minute, I head of your lineups being

(02:14:02):
locked for this week in the fantasy world as related
to your Bills and Jaguars players, as I'm still lamenting
the fact that somehow someway I didn't start Logan Thomas
the other night in my fantasy lineup when everything I
did was to pick him up to play him, because
you get caught up in life, and well, let's just

(02:14:24):
face it, sometimes other things become more important. At least
that's what I have to tell myself today, Jason, because.

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
The number of time, the number of times I have
forgotten and in the process of hosting shows about fantasy
and talking about fantasy on different things, the number of
times I have forgotten to set my roster this year
is uncomfortable. And it's like, I feel like I'm spending
so much time telling everybody else, don't forget there's an
early game, and yet we went into the last commercial

(02:14:51):
and I thought, oh man, who do I have in
the early game? Like I need to take a look
at this like it is. It is funny how it's
almost like, you know, chefs don't like to cook it
at home. Sometimes you just feel like you just forget
all this stuff. And this year has been so wildly
inconsistent across the NFL, It's made it a tougher year
than ever, not just for fantasy but for gambling. Two

(02:15:12):
things that I like doing have been become maddeningly inconsistent.
In the spot where I feel like I'm driving myself crazy,
Above and beyond just I got this game wrong. The
number of times I'm looking at it and saying, who
went off on my bench? Like how did that happen?
It is It is frustrating to say the absolute.

Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
Least, the old rule of do as I say, not
as I do is a reality, There's no question about it.
As we get ready for this game just a couple
of minutes now before kickoff, obviously from an injury standpoint
where at least in a pretty good spot and you
get von Miller back on the field, he started giving

(02:15:48):
huge percentages of SAX and victories and stuff, so you
know you blame him if things go wrong in this one.
It's a difficult proposition for the Jaguars, even with all
the creature come efforts of moving in to the area
for the extra week. I'm still wringing my hands over
this one. And I know plenty of folks. My brothers

(02:16:09):
are headed to a bar in Chicago that is opening
in Buffalo. The mayor went out of the way to say, hey,
you know what, let's change some rules so you can
get to the bar early and get after it here
because of the special time talk about getting re elected
and also increasing that tax base, no question about it.

(02:16:30):
Just like Jonathan Taylor, not that he already wasn't in
the highest tax bracket, but he'll trade it all for
just a little bit more, a three year, forty two
million dollar contract extension. Everybody's saying, oh, it's broken, it's fractured.
Jim Orsay said those terrible things about him being dead
and Taylor gone. They can't repair it. I laughed like

(02:16:53):
the million dollar man, HAA, Cause all it took was
everybody's got a price. It's business, it's not personal, and
you look around and you're able to sell them this.
Richardson kids looked pretty good. Ryan Kelly's coming back off
concussion protocol also brought a twins home, So congratulation to
he and his wife. They they've had a long process.

(02:17:14):
You can read all about that in the Indie Star
and everything there. But you get an anchor to your
offensive lineback and Taylor alongside Zach Moss, we're talking about
the South and potentially being a little bit up for grabs. Well,
the Colts sheepishly raised their hands and they settled the angst.

(02:17:35):
It didn't look good when Taylor made his speech the
other day, Jason right telling you know, I'm here whatever,
and then just forty eight hours later, tada, there's a
contract extension. Probably a different tone at tennor if you
were to take the podium today.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
The thing that surprises me isn't because you're a thousand
percent right, you know, and I love the million dollar
man portion of this, Like everybody has the price. What
prized me was that that price was met, right like,
because the concept that this would never get worked out
was all gonna be about money. So then the question
becomes is it worth paying a running back astronomical amounts

(02:18:12):
of money? They found a happy medium on it for
a player that, by the way, is only twenty four
right like, So if you were Jonathan Taylor like this
is this is your big dollars, Like you may not
get another contract that's anywhere near this, but you get
this one massive payday and obviously it sort of calms
this thing down and and some of the questions. The
Colts have been better than any of us expected without

(02:18:33):
him playing, and they've even needed to use Gardner Minshew
in a game. So I'm genuinely excited to see what
Anthony Richardson looks like with Jonathan Taylor. It will change
the way everybody's defending him, and I think it will
help with some of his accuracy issues too, just having
Jonathan Taylor that you can throw the ball to. So
you know, in my mind, this makes so much sense.
If we're forgiving of the contract portion of it. We

(02:18:56):
just all, myself included, became really dug into the Colts
st aren't going to offer the money and if they
don't offer the money, it never gets fixed. Well, surprise,
they offered the money and now suddenly everything's going to
be just fine. So I think it's a smart move
by the Colts. I can't say that loud enough. If
you want Anthony Richardson to have the chance to develop
as a young quarterback. Give him a great running back

(02:19:17):
that can also catch the ball to work with, Give
him the opportunity to help that in his development. Give
him the opportunity to see defenses play against Jonathan Taylor
as much as they play against Anthony Richardson. To me,
it makes Anthony Richardson a better quarterback for the next
three years. That's the most important thing the organization could do.

Speaker 3 (02:19:34):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:34):
I think it makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (02:19:35):
Yeah, and look for the running back position. I understand,
And usually I'm on the side of, yeah, don't do it.
You don't have to. There are circumstances whereby you look
at the way a roster is constructed and trying to
bring Richardson along and recognizing that the window to compete
is also now right. Normally you draft that highly and

(02:19:58):
you're bringing in a quarterback on us, you've made a
trade up, and you've had circumstances work. I'm in like
the forty nine ers famously have the Trey Lance situation
that most guys get fired. But when your team runs,
you know, like a Swiss watch, it doesn't matter, right.
You can say, oh, yeah, we swung and miss on
that one. Hey, Let's see in the NFC title game, right,

(02:20:20):
you're able to do that most teams you're drafting that highly.
It's organizationally, you've got problems. Right, Maybe you have an
outlier like the Colts did all those years ago, where
you go from Peyton Manning and next surgeries. You have
one bad year and ta dah, there's Andrew Luck. That
doesn't happen very often, right, Normally it's years and years

(02:20:42):
of pain and misery. Trust me, I'm a Bears fan.
I've watched it all, which is why everybody's just presuming
that Justin Fields is going to be a fail based
on the organization. No matter what he can do properly,
it's the well, the organization will fail him. So it's
not gonna matter. With the Colts, we don't know that.
But you have a window whereby you can go win

(02:21:04):
and potentially steal the division. Now, so it changes the
math when you're relating back to your running back position,
saying should we pay this guy or not? Because Zach
Moss through the first couple weeks of the season, Jason,
I think he would have argued, do we really need
to pay this guy? Right? I mean not that he
was great, but he was pretty good in a lot
of spots.

Speaker 1 (02:21:25):
You're a thousand percent right, Like the Zach Moss has
been sort of one of the more pleasant surprises of
the early portion of the season. Also, you're right that
it's not just even about the fact that the Colts
look a little ahead of schedule. It's a fact that
Jacksonville doesn't look like they're all right right now, and
the rest of this division is so up in the air.
If you're in the Colts right now, if you're in

(02:21:47):
the organization, and much like in an NBA season, at
some point you have to decide, hey, are we buyers
or sellers? In Major League Baseball, you got to decide
if your buyers are sellers. We're only a month in,
and it'd be super easy to say, hey, we don't
know yet, but what we do know that is Shane
Steichen's got that team playing offensively far better than anybody expected.
I wonder if that has to change some of your mindset,
Like if you organizationally are going to Jim Mersay and saying, look,

(02:22:10):
I know everybody says, don't pay a running back, but
look at what we're doing right now, and look at
how much better we can be doing. I think it
does make it easy. If you're zero and four and
this season looks like it's lost because you're developing your quarterback,
Do you really want to pay that much money to
a running back?

Speaker 3 (02:22:24):
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (02:22:24):
But if you are two and two and super competitive
in that two and two with a big win over
the Ravens, that I think matters a lot in the
way that things are seen and a game that could
have gone your way against the Rams, you can easily
go in at this point to ursay and say, hey,
we're one player away from being three and one right now,
not just two and two, Like, we need to spend
this money because it will make us right now today

(02:22:45):
this year, mean more to the city, mean more to
the NFL, and have a better shot at winning some
games while we develop Anthony Richardson. That makes it a
heck of a lot easier to write that big money check.

Speaker 3 (02:22:55):
Yeah, and he's far from being a finished product and
a lot of questions given the lack of Legion experience
right on even sixteen games when he was at his best.
We were talking September Heisman a year ago, so you know,
because we love to do September Heisman's along the way,
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We're readying for kickoff here, but it was trade week
in the NFL, and last hour I did my best
to bite my tongue when a certain name was mentioned.

(02:23:39):
I don't have to do it as soon as our
guy Isaac Lohencron has done with his update this time around.
So let's kick it over to Ilo find out what's
trending in our sporting universe.

Speaker 4 (02:23:47):
And that is exactly what is happening right now, Fellows.
The opening kickoff in London the Buffalo Bills and the
Jacksonville Jaguars, and get this, the opening kickoff was actually
not a touchback. The Jaguars returned out to the fifteen
yard line where Trevor Lawrence will take the field and
among the things he's dealing with today. A Buffalo Bills

(02:24:08):
fan in London holding up a sign in the stadium
that reads night quote Trevor Lawrence eats boneless Wings, unquote anyway.
Buffalo three and one, Jacksonville two and two. In Major
League Baseball on Saturday night, the Arizona Diamondbacks pummeled the
Los Angeles Dodgers in Game one of the National League
Division Series eleven to two, as Clayton Kershaw allowed six

(02:24:30):
runs on six hits in just a third of an inning.
College football Saturday Night, ninth ranked USC in triple overtime
survived over Arizona forty three to forty one. The finish
of the night, though Georgia Tech winning at seventeenth ranked
Miami twenty three to twenty Miami could have kneeled down
to run out the clock because Georgia Tech was out

(02:24:51):
of timeouts. Instead, they ran a play and fumbled the
ball to Georgia Tech with twenty six seconds to go.
They went down the field and Georgia Tech's Haynes King
rode the game winning forty four yard touchdown passed to
Christian Leary with one second to play. Number twenty four
Louisville over tenth th rank Notre Dame thirty three to twenty.
Louisville running back Joward Jordan ran for one forty three,

(02:25:12):
including touchdown runs of fifty one yards and twenty one yards.
Louisville now six and Oh fellows, all yours.

Speaker 3 (02:25:19):
Thanks so much, Iilo. Look, you can say a lot
of things about McDaniels and eber Fluse and even Brandon Staley.
None of them have ever done that coaching malprattis that
we saw yesterday. Yes Father's always said they sent it
a chance, you know what. For you, though, Ilo, you
don't have to worry about it this week, thankfully, because

(02:25:42):
I'd love to hear that postgame show, no question about it.
At Isaac lohen Crowd, where you find him on Twitter.
He does work for angel City FC out here and
of course part of the Chargers pre halftime and post
here in Los Angeles. One of our great teammates here
at fox Port Radio thanks to Shay and Mark making

(02:26:02):
a sound so pretty, Mike Harmon alongside Jason Fitz live
from the tyrac dot Com studios and Jason trades all around.
We mentioned it a little bit earlier and it was
something Kevin Wyert led with last hour just said, Hey,
Chase Claypool wasn't gonna play today? I asked Jay Glazer
the other day when he joined us in the aftermath

(02:26:22):
of the Bears and Commander's game. I go, you know,
you don't often say a guy not being around a
team would have that much of a positive effect, But
Chase Claypool not being around the team had that much
of a positive effect.

Speaker 1 (02:26:38):
What's stunning about this? Two things? One, when are we
gonna learn that when the Steelers give up on somebody,
there's probably a reason? And number two, when are we
gonna learn that Mike Tomlin is basically the Houdini of
hiding drama? Like we never think of drama, particularly with
the Steelers. And then every time it feels like one
of these big name players moves on to another team,

(02:27:00):
we realized that that player is just absolutely intolerable and
incapable of being in a locker room and all of
these other things, Like I look at this Chase claypol implosion,
because here's the thing, it's easy right now to pile
on the Bears and say, well, what are you doing?
Multiple teams were interested in acquiring Chase Claypol. Let's not
get it twisted, right, So then you got to look
at it and say, how did everybody in the league,

(02:27:20):
as connected and as good old boy as the league is,
the way everybody talks to each other, how did nobody
realize that it was going to be this much of
a handful to acquire this player. That's the most stunning
part to me.

Speaker 3 (02:27:32):
Yeah, when you look at the and we talked about
it a little bit last week when he was going
to be deactivated, and then Eberflus, in one of the
weirdest press conferences ever, refused to answer the question. They
didn't even talk about the collapse of the game against
Denver or how well Justin Fields had played for a
good chunk of it. It all became about, well, what's

(02:27:53):
going on here? Because you weren't straight with us with
Alan Williams, which I remind folks, nobody knows where that
guy is or what the hell going on there. Your
defensive coordinator leaves and it's like nothing to see here
because of all the other drama and Chase Claypool's situation
took so much. But look, Bill Belichick, the coach, whenever

(02:28:14):
he says I'm done with the player, we make note
of it. Whenever Mike Tomlin says goodbye to a player
should take note of it. The guy's not fitting around
when he's in the early stages of a rookie contract
and he says, you know what, this is too much.
Beat it. They got a second round pick. They turned
it into Joey Porter Junior. Congratulations. The Bears had a

(02:28:36):
guy that clearly didn't want to work and didn't whatever
else was going on there. Hopefully you know there's a
tell all documentary to come, because we get so many
of them anymore. Is that, yes, there's people. There's always
going to be someone at least the third or fourth
team that in the NFL Jason that I'm the smartest
guy in the room. I can fix him. And right

(02:28:58):
now McDaniel's playing with a little bit of house money
down there in Miami where he can say you don't
bring him in. If it works, great, If not, it's
a late round pick because we're not depending on him
to come in and be the guy. He just needs
to be a guy now, whether he can actually do
that and acquiesce to whatever their standards are or whatever,

(02:29:19):
because I don't believe the Bears really have much of
any But that's a whole other that's a whohole other
process for another time. You know, when Eberflus is talking
about you know, you gotta be on time, and that's
the first thing you're mentioning. You gotta be on time
is one of the big tenets of how you're gonna
read team's success. That's a problem for me, but I.

Speaker 1 (02:29:45):
Love that concept of just being like, hey, guys, didn't
win the game. Everybody was on time this week, though,
So I feel like we're really committed to professionalism. It's
it's about to really blow up your point on not
just on Tomlin giving up on him, but I'm ware
he was giving up on I think it is also
significant here because rookie contracts are not that big of
a hit, right. There was plenty of time for them

(02:30:07):
to go ahead and see what they had with Chase Claypool.
They did not do that, obviously, so you've got to
look at it and say, well, why are they giving
up on the player? And then I guess my other
question is, in today's world, why are you trading for
a wide receiver? Again, I don't want to give the
Bears a lot of grief here because multiple teams were
interested in doing this, but I feel like every year
I've covered the NFL Draft over the last what six

(02:30:28):
years that I covered it. Every single year, we're coming
in saying, well, the wide receivers room just looks stacked.
There are so many wide receivers, yet you're trading a
second round pick for a wide receiver. I don't really
understand the logic from the outset, and you bring somebody
in that's having a whatever this issue is with Chicago.
If you're Miami, your only hope is that it's a
wake up call of hey, this is his probably like,

(02:30:50):
you're not good enough to get to bounce from team
to team to team to team to team and still
make a living. If it's Chase Claypool, at some point
you're going to have to come in and show tremendous
production that matches what people think not only you should
be able to do, but what people think the level
of pain in the butt you are is right, Like,
so you're gonna have to match all of that if
you Chase Claypool with Miami, which in theory is easy

(02:31:11):
to do because Miami gets all the benefit of the
doubt for the way they run that offense. But also,
what's your target share going to look like like there
are plenty of weapons there in Miami. So if you
Chase Claypool, you got to accept that you're now going
to have to do all the work that apparently Chicago
didn't think you were doing while you get less targets
because you are not going to take targets from you know,
Tyreek or Waddle. You're like, you're not going to take

(02:31:33):
those targets away. If you're Chase, you got to be
happier in a lot, in a lesser role that gives
you the chance to rebuild your image. That's asking a
lot for a young man that was traded because he
simply couldn't connect with the current team that he was on.

Speaker 3 (02:31:47):
Yeah, the measurables all there. And I don't know if
Chase Claypool to some degree in Chicago because the let's
face it, it has always been called the place where wide
receivers go to die. That the acquisition of DJ Moore
left him sour that he knew his share, especially with
the connection that Field showed with Cole Kamet at times
last year that he was their leading receiver, which he's

(02:32:10):
now about to be eclipsed by DJ Moore in Week
six in terms of yardage, which is a whole other
thing last year. Yeah, DJ Moore has already got more
receiving yards than any Bears wide receiver had a year ago. Also,
go back to that box score against Washington. I made
this point, and I don't know how many others did.
DJ Moore was the only wide receiver to catch a

(02:32:30):
ball from justin fields the other day. That's all I'm saying.
The other two, the tight ends got into the mix.
But you know, when you're coming in with expectations and
you think you're the guy. I mean, the other thing
that surface was that clipped the roundtable that he did
with Brandon Marshall and others talking about himself as the
top three, top five receiver in the game, and they

(02:32:51):
encouraged it instead of someone said no, no knock, come
on man. But when he came out of college like
this guy could be a red zone threat, this guy
could be a big kind of deal and Dj Moore
comes in. Now you're shuffled to third at best behind
More and Comet. Then maybe you're a little salty, maybe
you're immature that way. You go down to Miami, you'd

(02:33:13):
like to think you've been humbled a little bit. I've
seen some folks theorize that they may convert him to
tight end given the way his body, you know, size, speed,
and athleticism. You know when he chooses to exhibit it
could be. But it just goes to show you, folks,
in any walk of life, and certainly in the NFL,
there's always someone that will give you another chance, even

(02:33:35):
if they know your backstory. Just keep keep your head
down and try to do right because even this guy
can fail into another job. Good for him.

Speaker 1 (02:33:45):
Yeah, but also quickly I will say this. You know
as well as anybody, the ego hit it would take
for a player to change positions at this point in
their career. We really think he's gonna buy into that one.

Speaker 3 (02:33:56):
No, and that's just it. I if the guy is
who we now believe or what the history says, and
the answer is probably not. Yeah, day and age. I mean,
he's not fighting for franchise tag status at this point,
he's fighting to stay in the league. And his tight
end really is different from wide receivers in most cases anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:34:18):
Yeah, and it isn't. But it's just you know, we
all know the way the room feels, and if you're
suddenly moved from the wide receiver to the tight end room.
I just feel like immediate checkout for a lot of players.
A lot of players are kind of turn around and
be like, Nope, that is not what I do that.
It's not We got players that won't even do that
when they're trying to get drafted nonetheless already in the league.

Speaker 3 (02:34:36):
Craziness. But yeah, we had that. We had the Randy
Gregory trade, and then the Chargers got rid of J. C. Jackson,
sending him back to New England. Yeah, I'm also salary,
but yeah, another circumstance of you're not good here? Beat it.

Speaker 1 (02:34:51):
Can we pause that conversation into March next time free
agency hits and remind everybody that Chandler Jones for different reasons, obviously,
Randy Gregory, ac Jackson all huge signings that cost their
teams a ton of money. They were supposed to be
guys that would be the difference makers on the defensive
side of the ball to try and slow down Mahomes.
All three of them, it's money at this point that's

(02:35:12):
completely wasted. All three of them failures for different reasons,
but all three failures with the teams that they're with
It's just a reminder that we put all this stock
into March, and March is a failure more often than
it's a success. With these free agent contracts.

Speaker 3 (02:35:25):
And the fact that they're not just on the hook
for twenty twenty three, there's bad money that's gonna follow
them around like bad habits. Get right, people on this
Sunday as we watch the NFL overseas we got a
scoreless game, Jacksonville has the ball back moving inside eleven
minutes first quarter, just getting warmed up, everybody getting the

(02:35:48):
rusted off as we get ready for a big day
of NFL action. He's Jason Fitz on Mike Carbon this
is Fox Football Sunday Live from the tire rack dot
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and beer picks the day and go through some of
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(02:36:11):
Fox Football Sunday, Mike Harmon alongside Jason Fitz Coming up
in ten minutes from now. You've got countdown to kick
off as they get you ready for a full slate
of action in the NFL, including I'm sure some live
betting opportunities bills. Just we're watching Milano helped off the field.
It's first in goal for the Jaguars about midway through

(02:36:33):
the first quarter. Now moving the ball at will in
this particular possession. We'll see how it plays as we go. Yes,
and we talk about committing to the bit Jason Right,
your career in music and certainly us working together here
in radio, you commit to the bit right. Sometimes you
don't necessarily love the bit right. Your co host takes

(02:36:57):
you down a road. It's a game of improv. Yes,
and you start playing on stage, someone you know decides
to take a little bit of a walk with the
guitar or a drum solo. You gotta play along, get
the eye contact and keep it going. But I've never
done anything where like this Jaguars fan who looks like
he's been transformed into a Jaguar. It's a thing of beauty.

(02:37:21):
I mean, yeah, I just retweeted it at Swollen Dome.
It's something.

Speaker 1 (02:37:25):
I mean, the face make the biggest question, and this
is really what I need to know. Did he do
the makeup himself? Because like there's a whole get up
to it, and there's like a fabric element to it.
But the face paint is the face paint, and the
face paint is straight jaguar like it is. It is
well done? Did he do this? Did he hire somebody
to do this? When did he get in the chair?
How much time was put into this? Like I need

(02:37:45):
a making of the jag fan at this London game
to know.

Speaker 3 (02:37:48):
Yeah, what's upon a time for halloweens. When I took
the kids around, they'd always want me to quote dress
up and they'd hand me a bucket and it was
just like face paint stuff. So I was always Road Warrior,
Animal or a hawk, and I'd do the paint myself,
especially Animal where you have the big spider in the
middle of his head rests. Did James lornaidis?

Speaker 1 (02:38:06):
That's it? By the way, A couple of like I
have all these like Remco eighties aw A figures. Oh
there you go. Yeah, the Road Warriors are right up there,
like the the coveted Midnight Rockers. That my my favorite
tag team as a kid, and still like that's the
the ultimate one with the Road Warriors, Like the little
Remco figures like, that's it's part of life right there.

(02:38:27):
I like that poll by you. That's that's well done.

Speaker 3 (02:38:29):
Well, you know, like I'm from Chicago and I like
to hurt people. Just like that, all right, as we
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(02:38:52):
What's the game that's got you excited more than any other?

Speaker 2 (02:38:56):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (02:38:56):
I mean no Raiders to watch tonight?

Speaker 1 (02:38:58):
It's all the Cowboys forty in nine forty nine ers
make a statement, become the team that everybody's talking about tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (02:39:04):
Jets Broncos. For me, I want to see what's in
Hackett's bag, or maybe more appropriately, what's in Aaron Rodgers
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