Steve Hartman and Ephraim Salaam discuss WR Hall of Fame cases and more!

Steve Hartman and Ephraim Salaam react to all of the afternoon College Football action, discuss the case for some wide receivers who have been left out of the Hall of Fame, the impact Dan Campbell has made on the Lions and much more!

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(00:27):
college football season and things are gonna get a little
more interesting. We started the day today when we had
eleven undefeated teams left at the FBS level. We're down
to ten after Penn State's disappointing loss. Now, look, were
they gonna win in the shoe? Probably not. But when
you watched Ohio State and honestly, the final score was

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not an indicator. Ohio State dominated this matchup against Penn State.
I have to ask this question, and I our buddy
Jonas Knox I thought talked about this a little bit
earlier show. If you're a Penn State fan, this is
a program whose history is amongst the all time elite.
If you go back to the Joe Pod days, they

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joined the Big Ten. They even had an undefeated season
in the Big Ten back in the mid nineties, nineteen
ninety four, Kerry Collins, Kajna Carter, that group right there.
But you find yourself at Penn State hoping to be
at the level of Ohio State and Michigan you're not.
James Franklin is now one to nine against Ohio State.

(01:32):
You are in the Wisconsin Iowa bracket. Michigan State when
they have a decent team, that's that next tier bracket
in the Big Ten. If you're a Penn State guy,
and of course on Sundays I work with one on
rich Ornberger. But if you're a Penn State guy and
our buddy LeVar Arrington, he can't be happy with this.

(01:53):
Don't you expect more? And if James Franklin can't get
you to that next level, aren't you looking for the
coach that can.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
You definitely expect more. And watching that game, when you
look at it, it wasn't like they got boat raced
by Ohio State. It was a one score game and
so there were plenty of opportunities there. So I don't

(02:23):
want to go all in. They're terrible outside of as
Gus likes to call them, the maserati marvs Marvin Harris junior,
who had over one hundred and forty yards receiving. Ohio
State didn't really do anything so at home. Penn State's

(02:47):
defense on the road played well enough for them to win.
Now their quarterback, on the other hand, missed a lot
of wide open, open receivers, so if anything has to
be addressed, it'd be for whatever reason, the lack of

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chemistry between the quarterback and everyone else on the field,
because it was off by a mile, never really gave
them an opportunity to get into a rhythm. A big
play in the game was the sack, fumble, scoop and
score for Penn State that was negated by someone holding

(03:32):
the aforementioned Marvin Harrison junior in the middle of the field.
So when I looked at the game, I said, Okay,
well they get that score. We got a whole different
ball game. So I'm not ready to throw them out
the window yet. But that quarterback play the rhythm of
the offense. In order for them to rebound from this,

(03:52):
they have.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
To switch up. They have to change that, because, I mean,
it was hard to watch.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
This Penn State football program is in iidle look Alabama
was in this situation for years, right. They had a
little ups and downs after Bear Bryan passed away Jeans
Stalling's won a national championship, but they wanted to be
a lead again and they went after Nick Saban, who
had a proven track record at the collegiate level. Ohio

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State when they went after Urban Meyer USC with a
Lincoln Riley. If you're an elite program, Jim Harbaugh going
back to Michigan took a few years, but he's got
Michigan back on track. You need an elite coach. James
Franklin is not. He's got plenty of time to figure
this out at Penn State, but they're just like a flatline.

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Today was the day because Ohio State's got a new quarterback.
They're no, you know, world beaters by Ohio State run center,
and they have the best receiver in college football, Marvin Harrison.
Jail Well, he might be. He's not quite on my
list yet, he's getting there. He's getting there. I'll have
my heismandulta.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
They don't win the game, Oh.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I agree with you. I mean he's I'm waiting a
little bit still for that next level. But that being said,
when you look at this Penn State program. I expect
more and James Franklin is just not delivering. So while
that's going on, by the way, Oregon has just scored again.
Oregon's struggling in this game at home against Washington State.

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And actually, when you think about it, it makes sense.
You have Oregon coming off that hugely disappointing loss in Seattle,
a game they not only could have won, but honestly,
had it not been for their coach, should have won
that game. So they're a little bit down after that.
And then Washington State just got boat raced at home

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by Arizona by thirty eight, so you figured they'd be
fired up. But now Oregon taking control. They lead Washington
State by a score of thirty to sixteen. And then
we're watching this Alabama Tennessee game, and this is a
game that figured to be tight because again Alabama is
stressed offensively. They were down twenty to seven at a

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half time. But right now Alabama in the red zone
trying to take the lead in this game against Tennessee,
and they do just that touchdown tied. Now, this is
what we call coaching. This is a Nick Saban who's
down twenty to seven at half time Tennessee. The stats
were even more one sided in favor of the volunteers.

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And this is a man that's not going to panic.
He's going to make the necessary moves. And they have
shut down Tennessee's offense in the second half, and now
the offense finally wakes up and Alabama's taking the lead.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, yeah, that's what you call a good cussin at halftime,
where you go in and your coach gives you the
business verbally, maybe smash a chair, whatever that is, whatever
Nick Saban's style is. And they came out and they
answered right away. First drive, long, long, long, broken coverage touchdown.

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And then they come back and they methodically move the
ball down the field on Tennessee, who held them, can
contain much of the first half, and now they have
the league just like that, boom boom, boom, not even
midway through the third quarter.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
So this is.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
As you were saying, and the point you were making,
this is what superior coaching does. When your team isn't
clicking like it's opposed to, then you have to change
the message, you have to change the energy, whatever that
may be, to get them to respond. And we didn't

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see that from Penn State, but we obviously have seen
it from a Nick Sabin led Alabama.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
All right, so the extra point is good. Alabama is
now taking a twenty four to twenty lead against Tennessee. Again,
Tennessee dominating most of this game, but right now four
thirteen nothing third quarter in favor of the tad have
or thirteen nothing. Actually they have taken the lead twenty
four to twenty. As I mentioned, we are in that

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time of the college football season where we get more
and more critical games each week. We're in the depths
of our conference schedule right now, and again I take
a step back here, Ephraim, because keep in mind what
we're watching this season in college football. We're not going
to see again. Essentially everything that we've known about college

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football in terms of conferences and teams here and there
is going out the window. We are going to be
looking at a whole new world next year in twenty
twenty four. We're not gonna have a four school playoff.
We're gonna have a twelve school playoff. We're going to
have a bunch of pack twelve schools scattered all over
the country. We're gonna see Texas and Oklahoma moving to
the SEC. You will literally need a college football map

(08:55):
to figure out where everybody is these days in terms
of conference alignment. So I'm looking at this is sort
of like the last season of college football as we've
known it over the years.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, it's love it or hated. It's going to be different,
completely different next year. I'm still maybe one of the
few that don't think they're twelve teams at any given
year that deserve to fight for a national championship.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Give me eight and I'm okay, but twelve.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I don't think a three loss team should ever be
in the running for a national championship.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
That's not elite enough.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think in order to have that type of opportunity,
you need to have showcased that you can dominate, no
matter which conference, no matter what level, you can dominate.
Losing three out of twelve games in college football, that's
not domination.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
But even from we have this in all sports. Think
about the league baseball playoffs this year. The teams with
the top five records of Major League Baseball got bounced
in the first round.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, that's that's basically.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Three teams that win at least one hundred games this
year were one to nine in the playoffs. You only
can We've got an eighty four win Arizona team, two
wins away from the World Series.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Football is the only sports you play once a week.
I understand, all right, the physicality.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
How about those bad Giants teams that ended up winning
Super Bowls? What were they? Nine and seven?

Speaker 6 (10:26):
What were they?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah? I get it.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, on any given sundays.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Like the playoffs. That's like the do you think.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
The NFL has too many teams in the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Do you think the playoffs would be good with twelve
teams each conference and so twenty four teams making the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't know. My expectation is.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I'm just asking like, do you would you would you
sign up for twenty seven, twenty four teams NFL playoff?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
No, you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
The argument has always been this, as we've seen an
expansion of playoffs in all sports, it keeps more teams
the playing around in the NBA love it.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's twenty teams out of thirty teams.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Great, they're doing great.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
They're doing it to stop tanking, running rampant.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
All right, Well, we'll see how this bess solving a problem?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
What problem? What problem is FBS? What are they? What
are they solving with twelve teams in the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's a money grab. It's not solving a problem.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Well, all playoffs that are being expanded as a money
grad That's why they do it.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
All Right.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
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Sports NFL insider Adam Kaplan And so, Adam, we have

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no undefeated teams left. What was a bigger shock to
you last week? The Eagles losing to the Jets. Are
the forty nine ers losing to the Browns?

Speaker 8 (13:26):
Oh boy, I would say he was loosening to the Jets.
I know they they were pretty commident they'd win that game.
And it was a strange game. Definitely strange game because
Jalen Hurts is not a turnover machine, but he had
three turnovers and they had four turnovers overall. Still they
had a chance to win until he turned over late
on a third nine play, which you can't do.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
But yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
Now now with the with the Browns game the Niners,
and I thought Kyle Shanahan said it very very well.
He knew would be sort of a grimy game, bad weather, windy, cold,
probably gonna be the scoring it was, and somehow they
lost the game.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
And you know, they have some injuries.

Speaker 8 (14:06):
Unfortunately, Deebo Samuel's injury, their shoulder injury turned out to
be a lot worse.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Than they anticipated.

Speaker 8 (14:12):
They're not gonna put them on IR, but he's got
a hairline fracture of his shoulder. He can't take contact
on it, so they don't have an exact timeline for
him to return.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
So that's really big for them.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
So that's that's you know, that's unfortunate that came out
of that game last week. So they have to deal
with that when they go into Monday night's game at
the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Let me ask you a question so far this year.
What's the biggest surprise for you in terms of the
teams that we didn't give much of a chance at
the beginning of the year.

Speaker 8 (14:42):
Well, I can't you know, I can't speak for your
guys because I'm not when you say we, I'm not
sure who you're referring to it. But what I told
people was the lines not only win that division, they're
going to be This is what I on television for
Sports Squad. I said this in May. They're going to
be the team that they're gonna be the hype team.
They certainly got hype before the season started, and it's
certainly been there now when you talk about he from
who are let's put it this way.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Now, it's only it's only.

Speaker 8 (15:04):
Three and three, so let's be let's, you know, put
in preperate perspective. But I was amongst the people, and
I was there at Rams camp for two days. I
didn't see any prayer to make the playoffs, yep. And
I know talking to someone in their front office. So
they kind of embraced being young in the secondary. Remember
they traded Jalen Ramsey. They won an unloaded contract in
his cash. They moved that to the Dolphins, and they

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wanted to start a new in their secondary and they're
doing that with a bunch of no names and somehow
they're very competitive. And by the way, part of it's
Matthew Stafford looks great, he's healthy, he's playing well. Cooper
Cup is back. He's been great since he's come back
from his hamstring injury. So they're going to compete for it.
And look right now, if the if the playoffs started today,
they'd be in. I don't think they're going to be
in at the end of the season, but they're in.

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And by the way, the bottom of the NFC, look
at if you look at Seattle would be in right now,
the Rams would be in. It's not look it's it's
really a five horse race, I think in the NFC
after that, I mean, anyone really has a shot to
make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
All right.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Sunday night, Dolphins on the road against the Eagles. The
good news for the Dolphins they're five and one. The
not so good news for the Dolphins is the five
wins against teams that have won it combined five games. Yep,
so the one legit team they played was Buffalo and
they got blown out of that game, especially in the
second half. So break this one down for us. You know,

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are the Dolphins as good as the numbers indicate or
are they a pretender just based on who they've been
able to beat along the way?

Speaker 6 (16:29):
Is Steve no question?

Speaker 8 (16:31):
The ladders the thing like, look, you play who's on
your schedule. The one loss that they had was really bad.
Now that Buffalo game, by the way, where they lost
in Buffalo, it was closed for about a quarter and
a half and then their defense just collapsed and they
just made had a lot of mental errors in that game.
That was just a bad game now, I'll tell you.

(16:52):
Also last week they got down fourteen nothing at home
to Carolina and there was shocking and then they rolled.
But look, they're going to get a test now. They're
coming pretty healthy. Xavier and Howard I'm told should play.
He's got a growin injury. Who's their best corner? And
Jalen Ramsey won't play, and they don't have exact timeline
for Ramsey to play coming back from the meniscus surgery,
though he started working this week. But the Eagles are

(17:12):
really banged up on their secondary particulate safety. This is
a great litmus test for the Eagles secondary because they've
not faced any team that can move the ball like this.
The Eagles, by the way, have had a very good schedule.
They're another team. When you really look at it, you
struggle to see a team that look really good. They
really haven't played that team. In fact, Patriots are bad,
Vikings are bad. Bucks are the only team and they

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handle the Bucks in Tampa. They're the only team that
they've played so far that it's over five hundred. So
this is a good litmus test for both clubs, especially Philly.
And by the way, two years ago, Tyreek Hill, his
last year with the Chiefs, went for three touchdowns and
over one hundred and eighty yards against the same secondary.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Speaking of the Bucks, what do you make of the
resurgence of Baker Mayfield? I mean when they acquired him,
I was, okay, this is the last stop. But he's
playing extremely well for him. They believe in him. What
do you make of this new Baker?

Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yeah, I would say this though.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
Look, they had a goal in mind coming out of
the combine. I'm told that they were going to sign
him like this S guy was a priority. He wasn't
party for anyone else, but they wanted him, and look,
they're competitive with him.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Now.

Speaker 8 (18:20):
He didn't play well against the Lions. Let's no, he
was awful, to be honest with you, he didn't play well. No,
never did anyone around him play well. Now, he played
extremely well Ephraim on the road at the Saints, like
he and that was when Mike Evans heard his hamstring
and only played a quarter. He did a great job that.
That was a stunner for me. Now he didn't play
well against Philly. See, you need to get him playing
more consistent football. They'll play the Atlanta defense better than it

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used to be. But this is a game that they clearly,
uh they're at home and they should they shouldn't really
struggle against Atlanta's defense. So look, it's it's been a
good story. He certainly revived his career. He struggled, as
we know with Carolina. But you know, it was really
cool though, when the Rams brought him in last year,
when the Panthers caught him and he had to play
on short notice and he played so well, it was

(19:05):
kind of incredible, like.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
How do you do that?

Speaker 8 (19:07):
That his mindset, it's his toughness, talking to people have
been around him, and the players and coaches love him.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Super competitive. He's just has been too inconsistent.

Speaker 8 (19:16):
And look, he's on a one year deal with their
certain incentives of his contract. If they make the playoffs,
he can make more money. But this is this is
a great opportunity for him in a division that's not
very good.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
The Saints had a terrible loss.

Speaker 8 (19:29):
On Thursday night. They really did not play well. They've
got a real shot to win this division right now.
I'd say that they'd be the favorite.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
All right.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
So, all the years I was in San Diego, I
used to get a lot of crap from people when
I was critical of Philip Rivers. During the twenty tens,
he started all one hundred and sixty games and the
record was seventy seven and eighty three. He made the
Pro Bowl several times, put up some pretty lofty numbers,
but it wasn't translating into W's And all of a sudden,
I'm looking at Justin Herbert and as I put out

(19:59):
on Twitter, slow he's Philip Rivers two point zero. I
mean he is doing the exact same thing. His record
as a starting quarterback is twenty seven and twenty seven.
He has thrown more fourth quarter interceptions than any other
quarterback in this league by far since his rookie season.
Now they go on to the road against the Chiefs
team that's still looking for answers offensively. So when you

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look at Herbert, it doesn't seem like he's going to
the next level that so many predicted. He gets the
rich court of the contract. But is Herbert's situation more
a reflection of him or is it just that organization
that he plays for.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
Steve It's really what's around him, right, So in Austin,
Eckler's a terrific back, but he's not a guy you
could grind carries with. He's he's an incredible pass catcher
out of the backfield, but he's not a guy could
handle a lot of volume of carries. And even Josh Allen,
who's terrific, needs a run game. They need a better
run game. And remember they didn't extend his contract. I
think Quentin Johnson, he's just gonna have to play more

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the rookie receiver. In fact, that's their plan here, is
to get in more snaps. And then remember they lost
Mike Williams for the season, Mike Williams might not be
back next year. He's got enormous contract. I think it's
I think it's partially the offensive line. You know, they
had to invest in it, which they've done. They don't
run the ball particularly well. That's a real problem. They
need to help them. Every quarterback needs some sort of
run game.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
It's more of a passing league net right now.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
But that's the stuff around from what I've been told,
that's sort of the way that people around the league
look at it. He's still very talented. He's still easily
a top ten tight end. And by the way, they
did a pretty good deal on the extension. They just
kind of have to help them. And you know, the
other thing is you can't put everything on him like it. Defensively,
the defense has been awful. Let's call it like it
is a defense. It's been very disappointing on a Brandon Steele.

(21:46):
You know, Brandon Staley, by the way, got everything he
asked for. He got khil Mack, he wanted certain players
off the roster, I was told, And they still can't
play good defense. That's a bigger surprise is their defense
has not been as competitive for most people thought it
would be.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
He's awful, He's garbage. One last question Patriots Bill Belichick,
is this the end of an era? I mean they
are getting bolt it's not even know. They're unwatchable outside
of a terrible win at the Jets. What is the

(22:19):
future because they're they're their schedule is not forgiving that.
The Bills, they got, the Dolphins, they got the Commanders
coming up. They can lose all three of those games.
They probably will. What do we see happening with Craft
the organization?

Speaker 8 (22:36):
Belichick so from I don't know if you're wear this,
but and Robert Craft rarely does this, but he wouldn't
mention Belichick by name, but he kind of look whether
it is the owner's meetings in last spring or anytime
he was interviewed by their local media. He said, we
have to draft better, you know, and then he he
He also talked about the mistake of Matt Patricia's offense

(22:57):
coordinator last season, about how that put Patricia in a
bad spot because he clearly was not you try and
develop a quarterback and not have the guy have a setback.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
And mac Jones. Mac Jones had a very good rookie season.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
He was terrific.

Speaker 8 (23:12):
Last year, he struggled, as we know, and he's struggling now.
I think this one is real. I think you have
to watch how this team closes. You're right, they got
to play Buffalo, the Dolphins, watchings defenses really improved. They
still got to play the Chargers, who could score the
Steelers a Chiefs Bill's again. The Jets are competitive. Yeah, look,
they're not going to be a playoff team. And you
know the other thing is, which is incredible since Brady left,

(23:33):
how much they've regressed at home. They're own three at home. Really,
they're just a really tough watch. They're bad, and I
think it's real. I usually don't get into that stuff
only when it's real, and I do believe that this
is one we're gonna have to watch. Belichick, who's got
personnel control as the head coach and the owner who
wants things turn around here, and it's clearing up and
turned around.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
Well.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
A lot of people think, of course, of Belichick being untouchable.
There's only one untouchable. That is Adam Kaplan Sports Radio
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single week. Adam, it's getting interesting now around the National
Football League. We'll check in with you next Saturday.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's Adam right there. All right, let's find out what
is trending right now. And a man that has had
quite the challenging day today. Of course, Martin Weiss is
here really doing double duty because obviously hosting a show
with VJ and then coming into do updates. But that's right,
a challenging morning for you. Would you say, Martin, it.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Was a hot one, Steve, it was a hot one?
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I laugh because I don't want to cry in the air.
But some car troubles on the way, well.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
You know, I would call it car troubles is probably
the understatement. He was looking at me, like, what's this
guy talking about? On the way in today? On the
one oh one right at the one on one four
or five exchange, my car caught on fire. What I
was listening to? Ohio State Penn State. First down, everything
was fine. By third down, I'm on the shoulder, thing
is smoking up. I called Dan Bayer. I'm like, Dan,

(25:03):
I'm gonna be late to work, brother. You know my
car is smoking And then actually said, hey, you know, Dan,
I'm gonna have to call you back because.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
This smoke, there's fire with the attached.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Let me call nine one one and get LA's finest
out here to put this thing out.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
But yeah, yeah, it's it's not a pretty sight.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
So in other words, right now, that's it's a gun.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah, you know, I'm on the phone with the I'm
on the phone with an insurance company, like, can you
drive the car safely?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I was like, man, I can't drive the car dangerously.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
At the car is on fire.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Man, there is no front windshield anymore. It just melted down. Steve,
there's there's barely a car.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
There's barely a car, Like, get your stuff out of it.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I grabbed my laptop, I have my backpack with the lab.
Insurance companies though, they go, you sure this isn't drivable.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not drivable. Yeah, from I
grabbed it, grabbed it very much like a guy running
out of his burning building. It says this building was
on four tires. But I grabbed what I could reach
and then ran out. And yeah, I sat there and
put some disc it's between me and that thing on
the side of the road until the fire came fired
and police came.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
There was one Victim though Ephraim his garage store opener.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Oh yeah, it's over for that time. I had to
go and like, you know, you're supposed to collect all
your items as you know, out of there, and I
was like, yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure it's now
melted into the front seat. I'm gonna show you the video.
It's pretty ridiculous. But right now we got some college
football games in progress. They're going better than my car
situation was. All these games in the early and the

(26:29):
fourth quarter are late in the third. Number eight Texas
did lead Houston twenty one and nothing. That was twenty
four to twenty one. Number nine Oregon leeds Washington State
thirty one to sixteen. Number eleven Alabama leads number seventeen
Tennessee twenty seven to twenty.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Let's see here.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Number twenty Missouri LEAs South Carolina twenty seven and nine.
North Texas has come back from down twenty one nothing
to tie. Number twenty three to two Lane at twenty
eight apiece. And number four Iya number twenty four Iowa.
Rather I should say Lee is trailing Minnesota twelve. That
game also in the fourth quarter, like I just said.
In the NFL Buddha Baker active for the Arizona Cardinals.

(27:06):
He will play tomorrow against the Seahawks. Browns quarterback to
Sean Watson is tracking to play tomorrow should he pass
his pregame warm up tests. Running Back Christian McCaffrey for
the forty nine Ers he practiced for the first time
earlier today.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
He's questionable for Monday night against the Vikings.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Left tackle Trent Williams is doubtful, and like Adam Kaplan
just said, Deebo Samuel is out with a hairline.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Fracture off his shoulder.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
He'll miss at least the next two games to evaluate
him after the bye. And newest Philadelphia Eagle Julio Jones
activated from the practice squad and will play Sunday against
the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
And Steve back to you.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
All right, Martin, thank you very very much. Once again,
this is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Hartman and he from
Salam with you. We're coming to life from the Tirak
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Speaker 4 (28:03):
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Speaker 2 (28:03):
Get tickets today at Breeders Cup dot com. All right,
coming up here in about ten minutes, I'll have my
update on the Heisman Trophy. By the way, I just
got my first I never tell anybody I give it away,
just but my Yeah. By the way, I got my
first notice from the Heisman Trust. They always do it

(28:24):
right about this time of the year, just to verify
updated information. However, I do want to reveal this about
the Heisman vote because there's a lot of controversy and
I have a lot of friends in this industry that
have covered college football for years and do not have
a Heisman vote. There's a set amount of votes, it

(28:45):
does not change. There are eight hundred and seventy media
members that have a vote that doesn't go up or down,
and the only way to essentially lose your vote is to,
I believe, leave the state that you represent, something along
those lines, or literally die.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
So I've had a vote since twenty ten. However, they
did follow up with me saying that they're gonna start
doing a little more verification on their voters like, how
much college football are you actually watching? How much are
you covering? What's your role with college football? So we'll
see if anything comes of that for college football's most

(29:26):
prestigious honor. Getting back to the NFL. We were sitting
here a week ago, you and I trumpeting Brock Purdy
after you know, an incredible start to the season. He
had not lost a game yet, and then he went
to Cleveland. The weather was bad, that Cleveland defense was

(29:46):
ready for him. They took Kittle completely out of that game.
One catch, one yard. Then McCaffrey goes down with an injury.
Samuel goes down with an injury. Now, granted, San Francisco
still had a chance to win at the end, but
Jake Moody, the rookie kicker out of Michigan, whift on
a forty one yard field goal. That is not good
for job security. If you're a kicker on game winning

(30:07):
kicks from forty one yards, you need to make those kicks.
But still, Purty looked mortal, really for the first time
since he's taken over as the starting quarterback of the
forty nine ers. And now the news is not good
with Samuel McCaffrey's out for a while. I'm just watching
the NFL as a whole right now, because we were
talking in terms of the forty nine ers making a

(30:29):
serious run at who knows, sixteen to one, fifteen and two.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Now.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I watched last week. It was the lowest scoring week
in the NFL in nearly a decade, and I was
just taken back by the overall mediocre play across the board.
I mean, we just have a lot of call it
parody or paarod, but I just don't see any teams

(30:56):
that really stand out this season in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Well, look, I see some teams that stand out. Barring
or notwithstanding San Francisco's two point loss to Cleveland, San
Francisco is clearly the best team UH in the National
Football League in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
When you lose.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
A Deebo Samuels, you lose a Christian McCaffrey, and you
lose for a period of time, arguably the best left
tackle in the game, you're gonna struggle.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Okay, but I guess a Cleveland team their backup quarterback.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, but it's not even about the quarterback. I'm just
speaking offensively, and that Cleveland defense and of that defensive
line ferocious, so purely offensively, we do have to give
brock Purty some grace, right, Like he's been phenomenal. He's
ten and one and starts that he's finished the game

(31:55):
and so, and he still put his team in position
that last drive to win the football game if it
weren't for the kicker.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
So the narrative, we'd be saying, oh.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, he struggled, but they still won if it weren't
for an Eric kick that went wide right. So they're
clearly the best team. They have to get healthy. I
think the NFL is truly one of attrition. The teams
that can stay the healthiest are the teams that will thrive.
I believe that Miami, Buffalo, Philadelphia, all top team, Kansas City,

(32:32):
of course, everybody else. There's parody there some of the
teams that we didn't expect to even be in contention
this early on. You look at the Atlanta Falcons at
three and three. You look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
at three and two, so they're the Washington Commanders at
three and three. These are the teams that we left
for dead in our preseason prognostications, and they're battling they're playing,

(32:59):
and so yeah, it's a little mucked up because you
have teams that you think shouldn't be as good as
they are really out there performing. So we get a
blanket of parody outside of the top four teams in
the league.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, we see teams catch fire late. Remember Tampa in
Tom Brady's first year there, they were what four and three?
They were sort of an idol. They had a bye
week and they didn't lose again. All of a sudden
they came out of that bye week and never looked
back all the way to a super Bowl championship. Obviously
it's very very early, but last week, Nan, it was

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just not the best.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
It was.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Not nearly the kind of sexy I like to see
in my NFL schedule.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
I know, Steve, Steve's all about the sexy.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Now I am very much into the sexy, as you know.
All right, on the other side, I'm gonna update you
the Heisman Trophy. Where do I stand with my top three?
And it's to the minute you'll find out. Coming up next,
Steve Harbiny from Salov Fox Football Saturday, We're coming you
live from the Tirak dot Com studios.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
All right.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
It is that time.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Countdown Heisman watch.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, as I mentioned earlier, I finally got my first note.
As usually mid October we get that first notice. Make
sure everything is in order, uh, and then we count down.
And now it's getting to that point where we start
taking the heys and race a little more seriously each week,
and I try to keep it updated to the moment.
So here is my current number three.

Speaker 10 (34:37):
Nick Anderson now comes far right in the trip set
twenty seven seconds, Anderson in motion twenty three seconds. Gabriel
has the football, looks to throw, He's under pressuring lobs in.

Speaker 11 (34:48):
So touchdown Deverson touchdop at Gabriel and Legacy Baking drive.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
That is Toby rolling from lear Field. Dylan Gabriel the
former Central Florida quarterback. The transferred a couple years ago
to Oklahoma. They survived today They beat Central Florida the
nights thirty one to twenty nine, three more touchdown passes
for Gabriel on the season, better than seventy percent completion rate,
nineteen touchdowns and three picks, and the Sooners are seven

(35:27):
to zero. Dylan Gabriel is my current number three. Here
is my number two.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
First down or yeah, first down, step back to bowl,
wants to throw, pressure running right, still running, now we'll come.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Throw the ENDZI. What a catch, What a catch by
man Herberts bowl throwing and hoping. That is Jerry Allen
from lear Field. Bow Nicks, the Oregon quarterback, is my
current number two. Don't blame that loss last week on him,
Blame that one on the coach against Washeon bo Nicks

(35:59):
continuing to do it today eighteen to twenty four, two
hundred ninety three yards, two touchdowns, no picks. On the season,
He's completing nearly eighty percent of his passes. Bo Nicks,
Oregon quarterback, is my number two. Here is my number one.

Speaker 10 (36:17):
Snat Pennix to throw, goes for the end zone off
the left sideline.

Speaker 11 (36:21):
Roll up two zide tuchsdown wasting ten fireworks tuned.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Up out of the scoreboard. What thirty eight to go
and the Huskies take the lead.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
The Heisman moment for Michael Pennis and Roman today.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
That right there is Tony Krasosony from lair Field and
indeed Michael Pennock's junior. The Washington Huskies quarterback is my
current number one. They haven't played yet today, but they're
twenty seven a half point favorites at home against Arizona States,
so he should add to that twenty touchdown three pick
number that he did. And of course the big comfort
behind win against or again last week. Penix is my

(37:02):
current number one. Now we mentioned Marvin Harrison Junior, and
he is getting close, close, really really close. I had
Gabriel sort of in my back burner if he won
again today. They did. It wasn't easy, but I got
Gabriel sneaking it at number three. Now, as far as
Caleb Williams is concerned, after that worst game that he's

(37:22):
had as a Trojan, three picks in that game, in
that blowout lost the Notre Dame, the good news for
him is he still plays Oregon and Washington. Well that's
either good news or bad news for him. I mean,
but he still has a chick, yes exactly, he still
controls his own destiny. If they were to win out
beat Oregon and Washington along the way, Caleb Williams could

(37:43):
be looking at back to back Heisman's But I've been
waiting all year for a non quarterback to get in
the car conversation, and certainly once again today Marvin Harrison
Junior proving that. But I got these, I got these
quarterbacks still putting up some gaudy numbers here, really goudy numbers.
I mean, like ridiculous numbers.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
I mean that is college football in terms of quarterbacking.
Above average talent can propel you into you know, the
stratosphere at quarterback. You know, we see three star guys
become all of a sudden, you know, their draft worthy

(38:27):
and things like that. When I look at, you know,
the best players in college football and I watch Marvin
Harrison junior the Maseratis, it's clearly he is a step
ahead and a step above everybody else. Like I said earlier,
Without him, Ohio State doesn't win.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
That game, right. And again, all three of the quarterbacks
I have on my current top three, as I mentioned,
Dylan Gabriel out of Central Florida, then he goes to Oklahoma,
he's been around forever. Bo Nick's going from Auburn to Oregon,
and obviously Michael Pennock junior going from Indiana to Watchington.
These are five six year quarterbacks that we're talking about.
They're glown men. You know, I remember when Chris Winky

(39:09):
won the Heisman Trophy at age twenty eight, way back
in the day at Florida State. You go, twenty eight
years old, what was the deal? He played minor league
baseball for six years, didn't go anywhere, so he decided
I'm going to start over again, walked it to Florida
State as a freshman and played four full years, ends
up winning the Heisman Trophy at age twenty eight. So
a lot of experience there. But you know, again, at

(39:32):
the end of the day, the award says who is
the outstanding college football player for that season? And if
Marvin Harrison continues to put up you know, one hundred
plus yards receiving, you know, and again with a first
year starter quarterback, Yeah, there's no question. He is definitely
on my radar. What are your guests on Caleb Williams.

(39:55):
Did he do anything to hurt himself in terms of draft,
the draft or anything with that game against USC He
can play against Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
No, no, no, no, not at all.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
There's nothing he could do.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
No, there's nothing he can do.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I mean because when they play Oregon and Washington, those
could get ugly, those games.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah they can.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
But I'm telling you right now, he's not going to
I mean, he's not hurting himself at all.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Okay, so no drop off right there? All right? Coming
up on the other side, we'll have much more on
the college football scene. Get you right for the lake
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I mentioned Fox Sports Saturday as opposed to Fox Football
Saturday because I want to make one quick note here
about the Major League Baseball playoffs. Yesterday was one of
those days, Ephraim, where I sat down to watch a
little baseball. You know, it was Friday, there was no
real football going on, and I was not disappointed, and
we had two terrific baseball games. Now if you're not

(41:27):
a baseball fan, I get it. I'm not trying to
make you a baseball fan. But the idea that baseball
cannot be exciting was proven wrong yesterday because both those games.
And I'm not a Houston fan by any stretch of
the imagination, but they're come from behind when in the
ALCS and then the Diamondbacks doing the same thing in

(41:48):
the NLCS. More often than not some point of the
baseball playoffs, exciting things do happen. Now, do you check
out completely of the baseball playoffs because of the football season?

Speaker 4 (41:59):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Did you watch any of these games yesterday?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
This is when you watch baseball exactly right, like you
check out doing the regular season night because it's one
hundred and sixty two games too many games. Nobody has
time for that.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Well, even these playoffs now have been extended a little,
but now you get down to the League Championship Series,
World Series on the line. Those are terrific baseball games things.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
It means something, yes it does.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
You're hanging on the pitch right. There is drama in
the basic concept of the game of baseball when it
comes down to a pitch, and that whole batter pitcher thing.
So I just wanted to mention that because it was
a terrific night of baseball last night. As we continue
on with those league championship series. Now, when I'm watching
the Houston Astros, everyone looks at the Astros with a

(42:43):
big asterisk next to them because they got caught cheating
to win the twenty seventeen World Series against the Dodgers.
And even though they really haven't missed a beat since,
of course won the World Series last year, everyone still says, yeah,
but they're cheaters. They're doing Patriots are the same way.
You know, they had, you know, all the different gates, right,

(43:06):
you know, all the cheating scandals involving the Patriots. So
a lot of people will look back on them in
the career of Tom Brady saying, yeah, they won a
lot of championships.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Cheaters, nefarious behavior.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
And then we have this year's the University of Michigan
football team. So to show you how good this season's
been for Michigan so far, and granted they've had a
soft schedule since the first AP poll came out in
nineteen thirty six, this year's Michigan team is the first
team since at least nineteen thirty six to start the

(43:39):
season seven to zero, scoring at least thirty points in
every game and giving up ten or less points in
every single game. This has never happened going back to
nineteen thirty six, but now we got scandaled. Apparently they're
stealing signs now. Every time I hear about noise about
cheating in sports, I laugh. First of all, I did

(44:03):
work for the Raiders organization, so I know a little
thing about trying to get an edge on your opponent.
But I've even seen it in flag football leagues with
my kids, as I do not know a sport at
any level where a team is not looking for some

(44:26):
edge over their opponent, no matter how they get that information.
So I want to ask you, Ephraim, a man who
got to the pinnacle of his sport, who has seen
it all when it comes to preparation for games. Whether
it was high school or college, you played basketball, You've

(44:48):
seen it in all sports. Are you as blase about
so called cheating scandals in sports as I am? Or
is it something you take very seriously?

Speaker 3 (45:02):
I take it serious because as a competitor, someone who's
you know, competing against someone, whether it be performance enhancing drugs,
whether it be a team you know, stealing signals or
anything like that. I'm of the belief I don't have
to cheat you to beat you. If you got a

(45:26):
cheat to be at that upper level, then you don't
deserve to be there.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
All right.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I could have take a bunch of steroids. I could
have gotten bigger, I coulda stronger fact me. Yeah, But
why though I believed in myself, I don't condone cheating
in terms of organizational wise, like the out will always
think of New England like that, whether smoke there's fired.

(45:56):
You can't have the flight gate, then spygate, then it's
a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Of gates going on it a lot of gates.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
There a lot of championships too, so you obviously you
directly correlate them to each other. If you the talent
level is so great and the line is so thin,
any advantage you can get yourself matters.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Why do you.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Think if New England is playing the Rams and the
Rams cut somebody last week, New England will bring them
in offense defensive side of ball doesn't matter. We want
to tell us everything, and that's you trying to get

(46:37):
an advent. That's a legal advantage you taping practices are
walkthroughs of an opponent that is not a legal advantage.
So I understand the sentiment of trying to get an edge,
but there's ways to get an edge without compromising your integrity.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well here here was my point about, for instance, in baseball,
with performance enhancing drugs or stealing signs, still have.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
To hit the ball, still gotta hit it.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
So even if but at that level, I will say this,
if you know what's coming, you can hit it.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Hank Aaron and I interviewed Hank Aaron a couple of times,
the late great Hank Aaron. I said, what was your
philosophy at the plate? He goes, I guessed on every pitch.
In other words, I want up there guessing is it
going to be a breaking ball, is going to be
a fastball? What is it going to be? And he goes, Fortunately,
I guess right more often than not. That's why he's
in the Hall of Fame. But even if you have

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a little extra juice in your body or and by
the way, when you talk about stealing signs of baseball,
when al Tuve hit that three run home run to
win the game in the eighth inning, you got a
runner on second base. Your own runner is on second base, right,
he's looking directly into the catcher. He can see the signs.
This has been going on forever. So when people say, well,

(48:01):
it would be it's like knowing the answers to the
test before you actually get the test. Well, that's not
entirely true, because let's say as a football player, you
know the play that's coming.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
First of all, if you've been studying film, you have
a pretty good idea. That's why you study film, that's
why you prepare for a game. You're looking for a tendencies.
You get to the offensive line, you have a center,
he's looking over there. He's calling the offensive line play
right based on where guys are lined up. Now, they
can switch up. But even if you know the play,
you still got to stop it. Yeah, that's no guarantee

(48:37):
that you know the play that you're going to stop it.
I just find the whole idea about cheating in sports
laughable because so many are engaged in the activity of
trying to figure out a way to get an edge.
There's a lot of stake in sports to win. You
think about the collegiate level, talking hundreds of millions of

(49:01):
dollars at stack the difference between a winning elite program
and an also ran. So there's a lot at stake.
But I again, every time I hear about a cheating scandal, Oh,
it just it gets tony because it's like, Okay, you
know what they say, you're not cheating, you're not trying.
I understand what you're saying. You from what you product,

(49:22):
but that but the fact was, even though you did
not cut corners, you still had an amazing thirteen year
career in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, but you know, each person has to live with themselves.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Okay, exactly, so with.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Them people's moral compass is a little skewed.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Well, let me ask you this. Do you think that
those guys that are in the Baseball Hall of Fame
that we know used peds and yet skated into the
Hall of Fame feel any guilt.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
I don't think they feel any guilt.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I don't think they feel any guilt either. They got
away with it.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
They did, they did.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
So this latest scandal with the Michigan if it's even
going to be a scandal, And again when Jim Harbaugh
is like, we'll cooperate, what and then they're saying, well,
it might be a lower level Well, how about a
lower level coach. If he has no connection with the
head coach or any of the play how is he
going to affect the outcome of a game? Could it
just be that Michigan is better than the teams they're playing?

(50:22):
And by the way, that record I talked about thirty
plus points ten or less it should continue. Tonight they
take on a Michigan State team that has yet to
win a game in conference. But when you get to
the top, though, as the Patriots did, as the Astros are,
as Michigan has revived their program, people are going to talk,

(50:43):
you know, sort of the cast the shadow of doubt. Okay, well,
how are they getting there? They're not there because they're better.
They get there because they're cheating, cheating, I find the
whole thing. Good man, Yeah, well it's it's.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Did you teach your kids?

Speaker 11 (50:59):
How?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
No man, Hey, I'm just letting you know.

Speaker 12 (51:05):
No, no, no, coach kids. So I coach baseball, coach basketball.
I as a coach, I can identify advantages that we
can tell you, Like if a nine year old kid
is a dynamic player in basketball, can get to the hole,
can finish. But he can't dribble with his left hand,

(51:27):
then I'm going to take his right hand away from him,
so I'm going to render him useless. But I'll let
my team know force him left and then the double
team comes from the right when he turns back to
his right hand. Easy, Still we go down to score.
That's not cheating. That's an advantage, you know what I mean.

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There's ways to do it as a coach, to give
yourself an advantage against an opponent.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Did someone ever approach you at any level with information
that they got underhanded to help you prepare for an opponent?
Did that ever happen to you?

Speaker 4 (52:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Never, No, I mean I was offered steroids before, right,
But I was like, no, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yes, really I really believe, like if I have.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
To take stories to make it to the NFL, I
don't belong in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
That's a real thing.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, But there's a lot of money. See, money makes
people do a lot of crazy things.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
This is a me me and you. This is a
me thing.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
But for those I've made, I've made money in my life,
not cheating.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
I understand, And that's that's great.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
I'm still making money in my life not cheating.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Do you think less of those that cheated to get
their money?

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Of course I want you to give me five NFL players.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Right a.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Man that has nothing to do with me.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
By the way, you want to talk about a coaching job.
Alabama was trailing at the half. Oh at home to
Tennessee twenty to seven. Second half Alabama twenty seven Tennessee zip.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Now that's a halftime speech.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Thirty four to twenty is the final. Alabama very much
in the conversation in terms of a spot in the
college football playoff. All right, coming up on the other side,
I'm going to surprise, That's all I'm gonna say. I'm
going to surprise Ephraim. This is Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 13 (53:40):
Milton stands in, the ball is knocked free, It's picked
up by Alabama.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I'm rumbling in for the touchdown. It's the Crimson Times.

Speaker 13 (53:49):
Cheehan Campbell, we have just spoken about him taking Advama
to playing time, and he gets the loose football in
Alabama watching the Tennessee unloads underneath the defense, catch is made,
tackle has made.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Alabama wins.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Final of thirty four took twenty bets. Heli going from
Lear field right there, the legendary voice of the Crimson Tide. Yeah,
the obituaries they were writing for Nick stabns coaching career
at Alabama a little bit premature. They lost that game
to Texas. Have had a couple of close calls. They
were down Bay at half against Tennessee twenty seven to nothing.

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Alabama in the second half Crimson Tide seven to one
right now undefeated in the SEC play. So they are
looking good. By the way Texas hung on. They will
beat Houston. They were getting us scared today, number of
close scores. We're getting to that point of the year.
We started the week with eleven undefeated teams on the
FBS level. With Penn State losing to undefeated Ohio State,

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we're down to ten. We'll see where we are by
day's end. All right. So from I teased by saying
I'm going to supp guys from salam my surprise is this, Ephraim.
Your Los Angeles Lakers open up the season Tuesday on

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the road against the defending NBA champion Denver Nuggets that
swept out the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. We
got an NBA season that is about to begin. I
know your love of hoops. I love it as well.
Looking forward to this year, We've got Wimby the rookie
for San Antonio. He looks good. He's gonna have to

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work a little bit on his shot, but I mean,
you can tell he's gonna have the work ethic. He's
gonna be how long it's gonna take for him to
be on a really bad San Antonio team.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
But what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I want to get your thoughts on this upcoming NBA season.
The Lakers, I know, pretty much stood pat with all
the acquisitions they made from a year ago. I mean,
I still look at Denver as the team to beat.
I mean, they just raced through the playoffs. Don't really
challenge Denver on their way to an NBA championship. Repeating
is difficult. But what are your thoughts right now as

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we get ready for an NBA season. There also as
a Milwaukee Bucks team that just added Dame Dame Lillard.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yeah, I think that acquisition by the Bucks put them
in a top tier stratosphere. Having Giannis, arguably the best
player in the league with arguably the coldest player in
the league, and Dame Lillard. That is a duo that's

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going to be difficult to stop period.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
What about your Lakers.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Well, I'm excited about the Lakers and the reason they
didn't go out and I'm glad they didn't do this.
They didn't hit free agency looking to make a splash
like they did with Westbrook two years ago. They didn't
need a splash. You got Anthony Davis, you got a
Lebron James still playing at a high level. You don't

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need a splash. What you need is a team. You
need shooting, and you need defense. When they had Vanderbilt
when they last year at the trade deadline. From then
to the rest of the season, they were the best
team in the NBA until they ran into Denver in
the playoffs. Until everybody ran into Denver in the playoffs.

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Denver is the biggest team in the playoffs. Their front
line was seven to one, six ten, six ten, six ' seven.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
And six ' eight.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
That's that's tough. The Lakers weren't big outside of Anthony Davis.
They addressed their size problems with Woods and the young
kid and so they have shooting. They went and got
at Vincent from Miami, brought back Austin Reeves. So I

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think they addressed the needs of putting a team together.
You don't need to be a super team. You just
need to put a team that can compete.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Night in and night out. Bringing d Lo back all
of that.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
You have to be able to compete for eighty two games,
and I think they did that and it gives them
an opportunity in the West to be one of the
top four seeds heading into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Well, the story for Lakers is the same it's been
the last several years. They've got to keep Anthony Davis
on the court.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Got to be healthy.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Now they're talking that he's looked physically.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
As he looks in shape. He looks in shame time
in a long time.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
But if they can have and they understand this, they
had a healthy Anthony Davis during their playoff run last year. Yeah,
and you could see the difference of mixed. That being said,
I told a lot of people at the end of
last regular season when he ended up winning the MVP,
I said, you got the wrong guy. The MVP of
this guy at the league is Jokich. But people didn't

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see a lot of Denver. Well now they've seen a
lot of Denver and it was amazing how as they
continue to motor right through the playoffs. Like, damn, this
Jokich is good. He is, and now that he's won
a championship, I only see him getting better. Injuries are
a big part of Edney sport. Trying to stay healthy,
trying to peak at the right time is such a

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key in sports. You know, getting hot when it matters
is what it's all about. But Denver now has navigated through.
I like the stability in that organization. That's a core
team that they built from the inside out, adding a
few pieces along the way. That is the formula to

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me to not only win a championship, but stay in
championship contention. Denver's done it right.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Yeah, they it's hard to repeat, very hard, no sneaking
up on. Everybody knows what you got, and it's hard
to to to repeat. Health is going to be a
big part of it. The Joker doesn't look like he's
in shape.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
He never looks like he's in shape.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
The difference is but he's always been in shape.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
They asked him in media day two weeks ago, when's
the last time he picked up the basketball?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
He was like, the last game we played, that was
Anthony Davis's off season regiment, like he would not pick
up the basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Yeah, but he trained. The joker wasn't training. I mean
he was enjoying him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Okay, you're you're trying to convince yourself. What do you
expect you on Tuesday night?

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I mean they're going to be rocking in Denver. Obviously
they're going to honor the NBA champions and everything else.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Banner ceremony, a lot of emotions, get the rings.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
You think a full year with Durant's gonna make a
difference Phoenix.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Oh, I think so. I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
I think they got rid of a little bit of
their defense for more offense. They're still on the formula
of we're gonna outscore you. We've saw that didn't work
in the playoffs. You gotta get stops, are you gotta
have everybody on?

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
I'll be interesting to see if they can get enough stops,
if they can play the level of defense that you
need to compete in and win a championship.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
The Celtics had Drew Holliday.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
That's a good player.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
I don't know how how much poor Zinga's is going
to matter. He's not going to be underneath the basket ever. Yep,
So that doesn't help your rim protection and your rebounding,
but you know it'll be it'll be interesting to see
how he fits into that group.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
The only thing that's going to be laughable about this
NBA season, and I've said this before, I wish the
NBA Adam Silver listened to me. The first day, the
first games of the NBA regular season should be played
on Christmas Day. I agree, Christmas Day. The NBA Finals

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should not be at the end of June. They should
be at the end of August.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Dog Days is summer with baseball nothing on, and the
football season hasn't started yet. It makes so much sense.
But instead this year we got this in season tournament,
which is all they're doing is they're taking regular season
games and relabeling them as tournament games because all these

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games will count toward regular season stats, with the exception
of whatever championship game they end up having, and there
will be no official stats from that game. It will
be completely an exhibition. Just ridiculous move this season back.
Imagine if the NBA Finals was in August instead of June,

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before the NBA NFL season begins. It just makes all
the sense in the world they've done it wrong. And
I'm sorry. No, in no game that you're urning, a
tournament game is going to put my eyeballs on the
NBA in November instead of the NFL in college football.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
It won't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
It's not to happen. All right, Let's find out what
is a trending right now? And Martin's had a day,
but he's he's on the other side. He's still here,
live and breathing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
And I'll be here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I'll be here at least until eleven o'clock Eastern, Steve, excellent,
excell Martin, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Early in the first quarter, right now.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Number ten North Carolina trails I'm sorry, early in the
second quarter, rather, number ten North Carolina Trails one win
Virginia fourteen to seven. Number thirteen Old Miss just scored
a touchdown. They lead at Auburn early in the I
mean midway through the first quarter. There these games just ended,
all right. You had number eight Tech since they led
Houston twenty one and nothing ended up hanging on for

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the win thirty four to twenty one, thirty one to
twenty four. There we go, See, Steve, it's been a
rough day. Number nine Oregon beat Washington thirty eight to
twenty four. Number eleven Alabama they beat Tennessee thirty four
to twenty in a game they trailed early. Number twenty
three two Lane beat North Texas thirty five to twenty eight.
Number twenty Missouri beat South Carolina thirty four to twelve,
and then a real banger of a game, Minnesota upset

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Number twenty four Iowa twelve to ten. In the NFL,
Browns quarterback Deshan Watson is tracking to play tomorrow should
he pass his pregame warm up test. Arizona safety Budha
Baker is active and will play tomorrow against the Seahawks.
Running Back Christian McCaffrey practice for the first time this
week earlier today. He's questionable for Monday night's game against
the Fighting. Left tackle Trent Williams doubtful, and wide receiver

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d Weoll Samuel out. He will miss at least the
next two weeks San Francisco goes on a bye after that,
then he will be evaluated.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
And the newest Philadelphia Eagle, Julia Jones.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
He's activated from the practice squad and will play tomorrow
against the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Do you know what that means, Steve?

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
That means there is exactly one position skilled player in
the NFL older than me, Julio Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
There you go, wow, Wow, Julio is still out there?
Is he a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
I think?

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I'm wide receiver is so difficult because you got guys
like Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward had a thousand receptions.
He's never even made the finalist list, yet he's been
on like the semi finalist list. You got a lot
of receivers. Tory Holt is still waiting for a Hall
of Fame call true. I don't know from do you

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think of Julio Jones as a Hall of Fame receiver?
I mean, he had obviously some big years in Atlanta,
have some big years.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
But you know, Andre Johnson should be in a Hall
of Fame already.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Former teammate.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Unbelievable Andre Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
How about Reggie Wayne? Is he a Hall of Fame?

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Okay, well, you got a lot of these wide receivers,
but Highland up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
But I'll tell you this, Andre Johnson and what he did.
He never ever played with another Hall of Fame player,
the only receiver who is considered for the Hall of
Fame or in the Hall of Fame that can say that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Well, when you think about wide receivers, yeah, absolutely, that's crazy.
And say Matt Shaub is not going in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Oh he will not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
He never had a quarterback. He was the first receiver
to put up back to back fifteen hundred yard receiving seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
It's a hard position for me to gauge. I mean,
I think about receivers that have a tremendous run like
Chad Johnson, o Jo Senko. I mean, there are people
that still look at him, and of course his former teammate,
our dear friend T. J. Huschmann Zada says, you do
understand he was the quickest off the line ever, unbelievable.

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No one was quicker off the line than Chad Johnson, join.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
Nobody his feet were.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Well, the question is to me, to be in the
Hall of Fame, regardless of your position, can you lay
claim that at some point in your career you were
the best or in the top two or three. That
to me is a criteria in getting into the Hall
of Fame. If you weren't one of the absolute elite
players in your era. How could he be turned to
Hall of Famer doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
To So listen to this with receiving leaders Jerry Rice,
Larry Fitzgerald, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Isaac Bruce, Tony Gonzalez,
Tim Brown, Steve Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Now Steve Smith's not in the Hall of Fame yet, right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Eighth all time, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson. Then
you have James Lofton, Chris Carter.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
He's a Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Julio Jones is sixteen. So before we put Julio Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Well, you got three guys that have been finalists right
there in Reggie, Wayne, Andre Johnson and Steve Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
We got some work to do before.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
There's a lot of work.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Yeah, we got some work to do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
And they don't put usually two of the same position.
They try to, you know, space it out, which I
think is fair. So sometimes you just have to wait
your turn. I want to ask you about a team
right now in the NFL, got a big game coming
up this week, road Test, and where they are in
your power rankings. I'm talking about the Detroit Lions, who've

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won four straight games by at least fourteen points in
each of their games, including a twenty six to win
twenty six to six winner on the road against the Buccaneers.
They're on the road against the Ravens. You look at
Jared Goff's numbers this year, they're better than Patrick Mahomes.
Jared Goff, based on numbers, should be in the MVP conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
They keep winning, he will be. I can tell you that.
Are we all again?

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
My attitude about the Lions this year was there's still
the Lions until they prove otherwise.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
My attitude about the Lions was they're going to win
a division. They're a different team. It's a different locker room,
it's a different energy. The culture has changed. I spent
one year and in Detroit with the Lions. Detroit is
the only team where two all time greats retired early.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Yes, Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
That's not the same. This isn't your your grandfather's Detroit
Lions or your father's Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
So why has Dan Campbell been able to change?

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Respect? Respect? Respect he's played, his coaching staff has played.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
There's a different level of respect coming from people who've
experienced what you're experiencing, and.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
The team bought into it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
That first year was ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Of course, it's always going to be ugly when you're
trying to change something that has been that way for decades,
for decades. And now they could put up a bunch
of points. Last year couldn't stop anybody. They addressed those
defensive issues. Now they can score with anybody, and they

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can stop people. They can get after the passer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Dan Campbell, I mean, you know how it is. It's
a copycat league, all right. So it works for them,
it's gonna work for us. So I'm going to use
Brandon Staley as a contrast to Dan Campbell. Last time
I checked, Brandon Staley never played in the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Worst coach in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
He's bad.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
He's been that way for.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, he's starting to do something that usually is done
by a coach that's going to walk the plank. But
he's not going to do it with the Chargers because
he still has another year left in his contract. And
they don't eat contracts, or they're gonna have to eat
this one. They're not gonna eat it. They're gonna have
to They're not gonna eat it. But anyway, when you
start doing this basically him saying after a loss, we

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had the right game plan, we just didn't execute, meaning
our job players did not execute.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
He lost the locker room last year. That's why I
didn't understand why they brought him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Back, because they're paying them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
He lost the locker room last week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
That team doesn't believe in him, just like the Denver
Broncos didn't believe in Nathaniel Hackett. Just like you can
change the coachure and you can gain favor in the
locker room as a coach, you can lose it just
as fast, just as fast. And so this team doesn't
believe in Brandon Saley.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, I mean, especially after that playoff loss. But I
tell you what these Lions right now are they? I
mean with a bang, A forty nine er team, an
underachieving Eagles team, an underachieving Chiefs team, an overinflated record
for the Dolphins because again they're five wins against teams
that have won to combine five game the Lions. I

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mean a lot of people were like, why are you
taking Jamiir Gibbs. What's that about? Is adding to the riches,
it's working for them right now. But I just wonder again,
with the success that Dan Campbell's having in Detroit, is
that going to change the hiring practice of jam Campbell's Well,
I understand that, but there's a lot of former players.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Yeah, but you could be a former player, but you
got to have a different type of energy, a different
type of swag. And Dan Campbell came in that we
all made fun of him. I made fun of him
about the biting, the kneecaps and yeah, yeah it and
ate it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
We were wrong. Sometimes crazy works in a locker room.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Crazy Urban Meyer didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
He was crazy, Well he did, But I mean I
think of a lot of eccentric personalities. You know, I
go back to a guy like bum Phillips.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
He was burrier, came in crazy. That didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
No, but sometimes crazy does work.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Sometimes crazy does. Got to know your audience.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Yeah, I know this. Dan Campbell's a better coach right
now than Bill Belichick.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Oh, went by a mile, by a mile.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
You think Belichick has lost the locker room.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Yes, it's hard. It is hard.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
You're telling me that in that locker room doesn't have
the same respect here.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Man, they got kids, and the kids weren't even alive
when Tom Brady was playing at the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Okay, they weren't even they weren't alive.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Okay, So all we heard over the decades is the
Patriots way. You come there, you sacrifice. It's the Patriots way.
Because the Patriots way you win.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
It works. What happens when it doesn't, what happens when
you have to sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
School, you will say trust the process, right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
This process is not working. When you start hiring coaches
defensive coaches to be offensive coordinators for a young quarterback.
These are the types of things. This is how you
lose the locker room when they start questioning your ability

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to give them an opportunity to succeed.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
So when you start doing when you don't draft.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Based on need, when you pay three tight ends, draft
another one, and then a year later none of them
are on the roster. These are the things that take
place that help you lose the locker room. So when
you ask me this, Bill Belichick loft the locker room absolutely,

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because the last two years have been abysmal.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Well, once you lose a locker room, there's no getting
it back. Can't get it back, can't can't go get
it back. All right coming up on the other side,
we got some games kicking off, big games around the
college football scene, and we're gonna get you some of
our best picks for an NFL Sunday. This is Fox
Football Saturday. Fourth down, less than a yard for Houston.

Speaker 9 (01:15:29):
Smith from the shotgun has the snap, rolls to the right, looks,
throws on the run.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
It is in deplete, broken up by.

Speaker 9 (01:15:36):
Jeanne barn It was intended for Stefan Johnson, the hero
of the Hail Mary and Johnny Baron comes up hero
for Texas. Houston caught him at twenty four Texas with
a late drive, a touchdown, and then a stand in
the red zone to get the win.

Speaker 6 (01:15:55):
Final score this.

Speaker 9 (01:15:56):
Afternoon for the TDECU Stadium Longborne's thirty one Houston Cougar's
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Steve Harbiny from salam with you from our tire rack
dot com studios want to thank our crew today. I
feel like I want to start with Martin because I mean,
the band survived a car fire to get here today.
That's what we call dedication Along the way. Lorano Chorus
has been a superstar since her arrival on the show.

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We always appreciate her efforts at Brandon, I don't know
what to tell you. I really don't know what to
tell you. I mean, your work is impeccable, there's never
a question about that. You're also in the company of
a San Diego State guy over here and he from
Salon Aztec Life. Did they they canceled the football season
just get ready for basketball sotball? They did get that one.

(01:17:13):
In Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
They have an open I mean a closed door scrimmage
against Arizona this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah, looking forward to that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
So uh well, will nobody know what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
But you're a superstar, a guy that made the final
four team Lamon Butler's back. Oh yeah, how many times
in your mind have you relived that final?

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
I almost fell out of the owner's box in Houston,
and like I was, I was hanging over the rail
and he hit the shot and I literally almost fell
out of the box.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
So in that moment, the exhilaration you felt had to
be on part with anything you've ever felt in your
life is unbelievable. Sam, I was watching at home, Like,
when he let go, I kept thinking he's not even
going to get the shot off. I was, But when

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he throw it up, I'm like, it's straight. I couldn't
believe it. It just switched. Every single time I see
the highlight, either on Twitter or on YouTube or something,
I have to watch it again. Did you see that crowd?
All the students that were all and then they were
just focused on them, and the second that the shot
goes through, they just you don't see the shot. You
just watched the crowd. That's a great thing about sports.

(01:18:34):
Those are the mom of it that you can relive
over and over and dover.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
All.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Right, So coming up here, some of the college football
games that we got going on from USC is going
to be back in action. As a take on Utah tonight.
It's a very tough game for both teams, come in
with just one loss on the season. Do you think
Caleb Williams rebounds against one of the top defenses in

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the Pac twelve, the Utes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
I think he does. I think he takes care of
the ball. It'll be a scoring fastest shootout because.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Well, Utah's you know, been up against it offensively because
they've been without their quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Yeah, But USC's defense is that bad.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
It's that bad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
I mean, you scores forty four points a game, so
going against s these defense, you can kick that up
to fifty four points. I would give him three extra points,
so I would say about forty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
All right, So you're going there. As far as NFL
games are concerned tomorrow, I want to get your thoughts
on a couple of games here, starting with that Detroit
Baltimore game. Detroit on the road against the Ravens. I mean,
if they win this game, they're in the conversation for

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best team in the NFL. Are they good enough now
to go into Baltimore and when they Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
They are. I think they are.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
I think their offense and their defense are clicking at
the same same pay, same rate. And look they have
something to prove and they're hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Dolphins at the Eagles. Dolphins scoring like crazy, Eagles coming
out that painful loss against the Jets. Jalen Hurts rebounds.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Hey rebounds. But the Dolphins has too much firepower.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Too much firepower. Oh man, I'm gonna go with the
Eagles in that game. Don't go anywhere, keep it right here.
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