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April 18, 2024 23 mins

National High Five Day and origin based in sports, a "What Would You Do?" scenario with a rare unopened pack of 1952 baseball cards, and which situation between Covino & Rich is lamer - Covino missing the Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney fight or Rich skipping the Mets vs Dodgers game with his best Mets friend visiting town

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome to another episode of Over Promised.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Good to Be Back, Episode forty five. Steve Covino, Rich
Davis Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday,
two to four out here on the West. Definitely check
us out, follow, rate and review the podcast. Covino and
Rich Now fun show. Today, Man, we're gonna play a
round of Who's Lamer? Rich usually wins, always wins. I

(00:29):
hold the record, but we got two stories. I'm a
Tom Brady of Who's lamer? Who's lamer?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Plus? What would you do?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
A John kenyonis what would you do? You make the call?
It's to open or not to open. We'll explain. But
it's a very special day. Yeah hey, should I.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Fish pomp you more? High five? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Five?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Because it's National High five Day. And if you don't know,
now you know the originator of the high five someone
you know. I mean you could say.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Not someone you know, but he gave a high five
to someone you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah. Well.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Dusty Baker hits a home run nineteen seventy seven for
the Dodgers the Doyers, and as he crosses his home plate,
he does a high five to Glenn Burke and believe
it or not, It's never been done before, not to
that level. It became a thing. They popularized it and
it lives on. So the high five wasn't around until

(01:25):
seventy seven.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
This is crazy, as a lot of people in your
mid forties or older, you were born and the high
five wasn't a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
And Glenn Burke, who only hit two home runs in
his career, was best known for being the first MLB
player to come out as gay and now I'm blind. No, no,
he was announcing it in nineteen eighty two after he retired,
but because of all the rumors swirling around it, he
was sort of forced into retirement, but later said he's

(01:54):
a gay man and he made it and he was
proud and for that I'll give him a high five.
Props to him. So not only part of the first
ever high five, the first ever gay player in baseball.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, so if one of your friends comes out to you,
give me my high five. Oh you're gay?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, you know what I think of. On a throw
back Thursday, the Techmobile Marcus Sallin, Dude, I used to
love that good one. Anyway, Happy National High Five Day.
Gave you a little history there, but yeah, Dusty Baker
was part of the moment. Man, How cool was that?
I love Dusty Baker.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Now there's there's a John Kyones, you know, that big
headed guy that you do.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
By the way, he has a giant melon. Fun fact,
Bruce Bochi I think has one of the biggest melons
in baseball history. Kenyona's gotten beat double the size. That's
because Kenyon doesn't play baseball. If kenyone is play baseball,
he wears size twelve. I think, well, there's a hypothetical
that really got you. And I think it because it's
a matter of are you a gambling man or woman?

(02:48):
Are not? So?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
The question is what would you do?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
What would you make your big head? The story is
they're doing construction in Chatham. Is it Chatham, New Jersey?
By the way, how's I say, because that's by where
we grew up. But you ever lose something behind the
stairs or behind a shelf or somewhere in the wall.
It falls into a vent and you're like, oh, they
ever knocked his house down? I guess they'll find it.

(03:12):
Just so happens. I'm assuming a little kid in nineteen
fifty two dropped his pack of baseball cards behind the stairs.
It fell in a little crevice crevspot.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Have you ever dropped something in a crevice by mistake?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, I'm just asking kind of cris that's a weird question.
And you know, just recently they're doing construction. They're like, hey,
what is that? And the pile of rumble turns out
it's an unopened pack of nineteen fifty two baseball cards.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
A fun fact, I've heard that if you're doing construction
on your house, it's always fun to put weird, creepy
things in the walls because like fifty to one hundred
years from now, someone will open it like put fake
bones or something.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I don't know, do something little time capsule. But what
makes it significant is on an unopened pack of nineteen
fifty two cards may contain a Mickey Mantlerookie Willie May's
rookie both who knows.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Take a listen to the story. Check out this is
wildly awesome. Baseball. Nineteen fifty two was quite the year
for baseball. Both Mickey Mantle and Willie May's were rookies
that year, and their baseball cards can be worth a
lot of money. Maybe this kid and Chatham, you know,
was running up the stairs and dropped it in a
crack and disappeared.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I couldn't believe that card vault in Patriots Place.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
There are rare cards, but stuff like this just doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
You never find something like this.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
This is like the Grail pack of cards in a
world of high priced cards.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
This well considerating a lot of buzz, but it's also
setting up a very interesting question. What should mister West
do with this pack? Sell it as is or open
it and see what's inside.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
This is one of the moretant doings that I've ever
seen you.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Eric white Back is known as the collection it cuts.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So here's the theory. They're saying this pack could go.
They're starting at fifteen thousand dollars. I think it's gonna
go way higher. But the Mickey Mantle or Willy Mays
it's like a seven figure type of deal, right, Yeah,
But what are the chances right that you get it
in this pack? So it's a matter of what would
you do. It's like, let's make a deal. Are you

(05:20):
gonna take it or see what's behind? Nor up door
number two? You know though it reminds me of it
those bozos do you take are to do? You see
the next showcase showdown on the price is right? Do
you open it or do you take that chance? You
know that you get a mantle, that you get a
Willy Mays. The mantles go up to three million dollars.
This could be a seven figure deal to Willy Mays.

(05:41):
I think mint See. The thing is you can't really
even find a minute or like fifteen thousand dollars each,
so it's such a gamble. But I think if this
guy holds out, he'll raise the price of the unopened
pack and some Paul Brother Logan Paul buy it for
one hundred thousand dollars. My dad is one that loves
to watch reruns of the Old Who Wants to be

(06:01):
a Millionaire. My dad loves to watch Deal or No Deal.
My dad loves watching two thousands game shows and when
I watch with him, if I go visit him, I
always laugh at the people on Deal or No Deal
because they have to have a number in minds, Like
there's a number in mind and I already have it.
If I'm this guy, if someone offers me one hundred
thousand dollars for the pack of cards, that's money enough

(06:25):
that that is what I'll call like, that's not life changing.
We have that situation, you change that money. I actually
agree with rich Man. Yeah, you can get a card
that's worth seven figures. You can get that Mantle rookie
mint jim min.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
But what are the chances of a Mantle rookie or
amazed rookie being in there. If someone offers you one
hundred thousand dollars just so Logan Paul could open it
up on TV, you take that money. But I think
this guy holds out. Let the controversy, Let the story
build a little bit, let the intrigue build, and let
some high roll in sort of guy pay you an

(06:58):
extra amount of money. You know what that pack costs
in nineteen fifty two, A penny?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Imagine you imagine if I remember the movie Frequency with
Jim Cavizel and Dennis Quaid. Imagine if you could contact
your grandpappy in nineteen fifty two and say, Grandpa, buy
one hundred packs for a dollar. It seems insane. A penny.
And here's what I'm thinking when you talk about let's
make a deal, deal or no deal one hundred thousand dollars,

(07:24):
I mean, I know everyone's budgets different, but I might
go for more.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
But if the story continues to roll them, my thought is.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
One hundred thousand dollars. Again, not life changing money, but
that's like if you got kids, that's college fund. If
you got your house and you want to pay off
your mortgage. One hundred thousand dollars is a nice number. Now,
this is something they never knew they had. So when
you say fifteen thousand dollars, fifteen thousand dollars ain't going
to move the needle for someone that just bought a house.
If you have the money to buy a new house,

(07:51):
fifteen thousand dollars isn't moving the needle. So I say
you open it or wait till it gets to one
hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Two hundred thousand dollars. Again, it's starting at fifteen thousand dollars,
but there may be a three million dollar mantle.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's gonna go up.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'll tell you why, you know, WILLI may not a
Willie Mays hayes a Willie Mays.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh I told not a Willie mays Hays. And man,
it's so cool. What a discovery it's gonna go to
on a hundred thousand dollars. I'll tell you why be
before we even started over promised you. Me and our
buddy Spot were just saying, dude, if it was fifteen
thousand dollars for real, we would kick in five grand each,
just because a five thousand dollars investment for the chance

(08:30):
at making it millions with the Mickey mantle. That's a
fun bet. So you don't think ballers get back, dude,
I'll pay one hundred.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Thousand unopening it on YouTube or something right in reviews,
you make a deal out of it.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Could you know there's someone that is a YouTuber like
mister Beast or Logan Paul. There's someone that each video
they make they make one hundred thousand dollars on it,
So of course they're gonna do this.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I think it's a cool idea. I can't wait to
see it unfollowed. And by the way, a related story,
I think in Fiory not too long ago, an unopened
box containing sixteen boxes of hockey cards sold for three
point seven million dollars at auction, and that could contain
a Wayne Gretzky rookie.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now according to the.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Stats, well there's ten thousand cards in that box. Ten
thousand cards could contain up to twenty Gretzki rookies that
go for about eight thousand each or something like that.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So something like, look you never know again jem Mint.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
So you're looking for jem Mint, but nineteen seventy nine,
nineteen eighty unopened box just sold for three point seven
million dollars containing sixteen boxes. And it's always like that fantasy, right,
you're rummaging to your grandpappy stuff, or you're going through
the attic you find something. Just this week, my parents
were like, Steven.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
We found something in the basement. Is it worth anything?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
And I want to show you what it is and
see your thoughts. But my parents like, it's it's Ken
Graffy Junior. Take a look. And I'm like, ah, oh
three bobblehead with the reds. But it's not opened, and
I'm thinking, yeah, no, it'd have to be his rookie
year with the Mariners. No way, that's not worth anything. No, wait,

(10:17):
by you know again. It's that you're looking for that
thrill of look, oh, we found I think you get nothing.
I think Rick from Palling Stars and'll be like, yeah,
I'll give you two.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Dollars for that. I found it no on eBay really
two thousand and three upper deck ken graffyed junior bobblehead.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, ten dollars ninety five cents. Ah, yeah exactly with
the red's not worth anything dollars. And look, just sitting
here in the studio, I have the full set of
eighty seven tops, full set of eighty six tops.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
You know, so you never know what sort of treasures
you might find.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Let me just pick a random card ridge.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
What you got, huh an expose Jeff Reardon? Oh wow,
let me cut all one out the eighty seven busy.
You know. We said this because just pulling the fun
stuff is just fun in itself. Before I even pull one,
we all know eighty seven that's the wood boarder that
matches your parents station wagon and your and your basement times.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I know I do have unopened like nineteen ninety one
Bowman cards, but what is that? Are going to be
so jealous?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I just pulled from the Texas Rangers, don slaught, that's.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Because and bring on the onslaught like Don Slough said that.
We bring on always bring on the onslaught like Don Slow.
Here we are so what would you do over Promised Nation?
What would you do with this unopened pack.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
In nineteen fifty would you do? What would you do?
I guess six figures is the is the starting point.
But my goodness, don't we all dream of that, like,
oh what happened? Oh? What did you find? The Grandma's attic?
Unopened ship? But because I'll tell you this, we still
haven't learned our lesson. You know, you know they say
history repeats itself. What have we not learned that every

(12:01):
generation has stuff that unopened is valuable? Yet we don't
think that way in our lifetime since I've known you?
What did you get for the first time? An iPhone?
The first iPhone unopened was six hundred dollars? Spot? What
did itself for?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Sixty three thousand dollars?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh? No, I saw one that broke the record one
hundred and ninety seven thousand dollars. Wow?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Really really, Yes, that's been Jim.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It must have been with the plastic.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, seriously, no, it's it's I don't have the foresight, dude,
I got an unopened Steve Covino with his little doggie.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
THEO Funko Pop of Me unopened right, bet you is
worth at least a few million dollars thirty seven dollars.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I mean you never know.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, you're right, Yeah, the old iPhone first generation fifty
thousand dollars. Wow.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
So yeah, I mean you gotta have the foresight. Good
luck you treasures find and fulfill your destiny, fortune and glory.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Kid, did you ever see that guy that does sports
collectibles and that's a hot brunette on the show on Netflix? Golden?
Yeah something Golden? Yeah, Matt Golden. Did you see the guy?
Do you see the guy that had every generation of
Apple computers still sealed? And it was worth millions of dollars?
So my point is, next time I go to Target
with your kids, grab a random toy that seems like

(13:19):
it might be trendy.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Put it in your attic somewhere.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'm just saying, like, if we're never going to learn
our lesson, right, you don't think that something now that's
brand new in fifty years might pay for a new
callar the King of Collectibles, Ken gold Ken, gold Ken Golden. Well,
that's the kid I went to high school with. So anyway,
what would you do?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Let us know at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio,
and that brings us to a round of who's lamer.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Usually Rich is a good game. But I think a
lot of times Covino leans La mae a little lame.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Sometimes I'm a little more conservative. Rich would say a
stick in the mud. Play things safe. But this weekend
is my girlfriend's birthday weekend, right, and I'm going to
visit her family in Idaho for the weekend. And that's
great and that's grand. I always have a fun time
in Idaho, right, and go to Dutch Bros.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
So what brings you to town? Can I have my coffee? Please?
So what's going on? You have any good plans today?
Stop talking. I'll have a coffee. Thanks, thank you. I
go to Dutch Bros. We do some Idaho things for birthday,
you said, right, Yeah, it's a birthday. You get her
a little Fudgy the Whale from Carvel. They don't do
Fudgi the Whale in Idaho. I got a sweet potato

(14:36):
though in my pants. Now, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
So look, I'm going out to Idaho to celebrate birthday
with the fan. But for months, for years, years, yes years,
I've been waiting to see a matchup that's going down
this weekend. Devin Haney, Devin the dream hany Oh versus

(15:00):
Ryan Garcia.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I say that respectfully.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean Ryan Garcia.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
He's sort of on my shit list because he said
f my mets because they wouldn't let him throughout the
first pitch. But this is an anticipated fight.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
In fact, I'll be watching here without you all some
good promotion Ryan Garcia? Has he lost his mind? Has
he been trolling everybody just to promote this fight? We'll
find out. But for me, this is a clear case
of hard work versus raw talent, hard work and discipline
on Haines's part versus the raw talent of Ryan Garcia's part.
And I think hard work pays off as much as

(15:34):
I like Ryan Garcia, so that's what makes it cool.
Because they fought as amateurs as little kids. They're both
three and three, and they were always very even. Has
Hani's hard work pushed him over the edge here, you know,
because I think Ryan's been riding on his own talent
for a long time.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I love your heart hitting analysis, but let's get to
why you're lame.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Is it lame for me to say, yeah, birthday fun
and all that's it's great, but I can't miss this
fight because there's nothing worse than being at a restaurant
or being somewhere else and in your mind being on
the fight or the game and you're looking at your phone,
you're checking the score, and you're wishing you were watching that.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I mean, I want to be in the moment. So
he mentioned this on Fox Sports Radio the other day.
You're going to Idaho for like a day and a
half to be there with your girlfriend on her birthday
with her family, and you're going to suggest her family
all sit down and watch a fight. Dude.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I get excited about these fights, like like you get
excited about opening day baseball, right like your first kickoff
of the season. That's how I get about these fights. Okay,
So for me to miss this is asking a lot.
I'm like, oh, Maye, I look forward to this because
there's nothing worse too then having fun in the moment
and then you look at your phone you see the
result like ah ainy one by decision, I missed it,

(16:51):
or knock out Ryan or see y'all man, and I
missed it. That's the weakest. So is it lame for
me to say I got a watch. I know him here,
but I gotta watch this fight. If you and the
whole family.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Let's say this is a party of twelve plus people
at a nice restaurant. Is it even lamer? Forget you
trying to convince people to watch a fight. What if
Kavino's the guy at the table with his phone out
with like an AirPod in watching the fight.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
And listen it's Kyle lame. I know my lame story.
But before we hear Rich's lame story, let me just
give you a tell of the tape. To get you hyped,
get you as hyped as me. But he send us
to your father in law, try to get him hyped.
Try to get her sister hyped, you know, send me,
get her family. Send it to my girlfriend's family to
get them equally his hyped.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Like you guys ready for this weekend. They'd be like, yeah,
Jordan's birthday. Be like no, no, no, tell the tape.
They're both twenty five Haini's five eight. They're both five eight,
Garcia's five eight and a half. Haine got to reach
advantage seventy one inches to seventy Hainy's thirty one and
zero Garcia twenty four and one.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
He lost to Tank Davis. As you remember, Hainy fifteen
knockouts to Ryan Garcia's twenty's biggest win recently, I mean
any beat Lomachenko, So you know, Haine's bought some fought
some of the best. He's a great boxer man, very disciplined.
So good for Hani And now I'm double checking that

(18:13):
because you just made me draw a blank.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Hani is a monster favorite. Yeah, because again hard work.
But like we're talking, like spot, I know you and
I will bet on some of the fights. Haiti is
minus seven hundred, Garcia plus five hundred. As an underdog,
you bet one hundred Garcia wins, you win five hund
Though now, Garcia has been known for the knockout, right,

(18:35):
He's twenty twenty of his twenty four wins are by knockout.
If he knocks out Devin Haney, I bet you, the
odds on that are even more substantial.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Garcia had a crazy power, crazy speed, but he doesn't
have the discipline as as Saney does.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
For real, the odds that that's not updated. The odds
right now in some sportsbooks have Hany as a minus
nine hundred.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
So hey, if you want to put some money on it,
do your thing. But is it lame for me? To
want to watch this fight in that way, to the
point where I might have to dip out of my
girlfriend's little celebration with her family.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I don't know. I think that's my lame story. I
think I got my bet. I'm going Garcia by knockout
plus fifteen hundred go for it plus fifteen hundred you
bet fifty bucks, you win seven fifty.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Now I feel kind of lame. Okay about that, I do,
so let me know. But richest story is the lamest
because riches story goes back to his high school years,
his literal league years, in fact, childhood childhood years.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
One of my best buddies, Mike, is visiting with his family.
They're doing the whole Disneyland California Universal Like. He's taking
his kids. They got their East Coast spring break. He's
coming here and he's like, Yo, during the week, I'll
be at Disney and all that stuff, but I'm here
for a full week. So one weekend and then the
following weekend, He's like, I got like a day each

(19:56):
weekend where I'd love to do stuff with your family.
I was like, yeah, you could crash here in the
guests bet room. We got room for your kids too.
So I'm gonna see my friend from the East coast
be and this buddy. Don't we bond over the most?
The New York Mets.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
He's your in my opinion, he's your Mets friend. You
guys grew up together. Look, we've been to spring training.
Look at the spring training together. Your your main bonding
sort of commonality is your love of the Mets.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
We've been to the World Series together. We've been to
home games, away games. In fact, he'd tell you, Sarah
and I my wife and I went away with him
and his girlfriend at the time, him his wife at
the time to a Mets Toronto Blue Jays game up
in Toronto, and that's where him and his wife conceived
their baby.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
So like this is he is Mets.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Through and through. He's coming here this weekend. And when
do you believe that the Mets are playing the Dodgers.
But we're not going to the game. So it just
so happens by coincident dance. Yeah, he's out here. He's
never out here these cause people don't like to come
to La. He's here in La see his best Mets pal,

(21:04):
and the Dodgers are playing the Mets. Going to see
the Mets. How insane is that?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Well, it's like perfect for you guys that the chances
of that are so rare.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
You gotta go. Two little daughters, I have two little kids.
Wives are like, what are we going to do? Eight
people at Dodger Stadium? And you kids, you act like
your daddy stacks. If you're rolling in money, you can't
pay for that game. You can't use your connects. You
can't make that happen. Great dad, and bring your kids.
I mean, what's what's the problem.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I could use connects for two or four tickets? So
what does everybody gotta go? Why can't you and your
kids and him and his kids go? Why does everybody
got to go and do what? Leave our wives behind?
I mean, God forbid? Why does everybody like? Who do
we leave behind?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Have you taken your kids for an afternoon game? You
guys can all hang out later on four or five
hour you know that's a that's an excursion.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Dude, I say excursion.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
The games are manageable two hours nowadays. It's not that long.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, you guys are I think you guys are blowing it.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Me not going to a regular season Mets game or
kaveno with your buddy who's.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Never ount here to see the Dodgers Mets.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, I think the plan is we're gonna go like
the beach and dinner with our families instead of going
to a Mets game, which I think four little kids
would not appreciate. It would be more of a struggle,
more of a struggle to have four kids under the
age of ten.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Or to share that moment at the stadium with your
kids that they'll never forget. It could be any beach
you think you actually the beaches here in La are good. No,
they're not murky ass water.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
What's so great about that beach? Murky? This was nice?
What's the weather this weekend?

Speaker 3 (22:39):
You used to be some great day at the beach
and you're still motion jogging and it's gonna beautiful.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I'll be running around like Apollo and Rocky Rich acts
like he's got his red speed already. You're not even
ready for the beach, Dude, you're not Hasselhoff. Well, hey
your thought lamer vote at coven on Rich Lamer, this
guy or me and I will see you next week. Hey, yeah,
high five day. We'll see you next time on over promise,

(23:04):
And of course every day on Fox Sports Radio. Until then,
I ripa there, cheap baby. See you in the over
Promised Land. It's rich

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Every week comedian and infamous roaster Nikki Glaser provides a fun, fast-paced, and brutally honest look into current pop-culture and her own personal life.

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