The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz Talk NFL Draft & More!

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good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I know.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
We want to wish h Figgy and his beautiful bride
a lovely day today as they await the birth of
their child. And uh I knew uh miss fella or
fella coming into the world.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, I mean that was my first question. Do we
know the gender yet? Because are we getting an extra
fella and an extra fella to the crew, like and
you know that's the way that works. All of a sudden,
his grandfather didn't beam and we get an extra.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Fella dude, you would be you are.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I don't know if you have any but you would
be an outrageous uncle.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Like you would be cool as well. You would be
like the cool uncle.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
You know what, I don't have any any nieces nephews,
so yeah, I got like my brother and I don't
have any relationships, so like his kids wouldn't be right
in my life anyway. But you know what, maybe I'll
add this, maybe maybe cool uncle is just like a
thing that we now ad.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Like I'm I'm see, let's go like, I don't know
if you know some of your friends, your dear friends
have kids and stuff, and you know, you would be.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
The cool uncle.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I love kids, I do.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I love them, I know, and you got that great personality,
so I think you would be uh because listen, so
I grew up I have about like seven eight like
really really really close friends, like we grew up when
we were kids, and so my kids call all my
friends uncle Boo, Uncle touch, Uncle Joey's blood.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
How was this happening? Like even the kids in your
life have cooler nicknames, and it like this is what
happens when you're like like Philly uncle Uncle tuoc uncle
Uncle boo, like.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Like this is amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
And it's and it's funny. We uh and the kids,
like you know, they just oh.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's uncle boo hey, Uncle boo hey, Uncle teach like
you know, and it's funny, like they're a part of
their lives, like they come watch and play ball and
all that stuff. So I think that's that's a that's
a you thing, man. I think you would be uh
incredible at that.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
It's partially because I'm still a child, right Like that's
the thing, Like I think you relate to that, right Like,
there's no I was asked yesterday every year, I like
to celebrate the end of the draft. So at the
end of the draft, especially going through all the broadcast
work I've done, I've been lucky enough to do that.
I'm very thankful. I always like to celebrate. So, you know,
tonight when I get back to home, the question was
where you want to celebrate. My first answer is, like,

(03:17):
I don't know how. Maybe Dave and Busters give some
cake and then play some video games, like I'm a child.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I'm a child, Like, oh, really, you want to do
the cake?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Cake? As always, usually I go someplace and I get
one of every dessert on the menu. That's a very
true story. And I just blow through them all because
I try and take care of myself in draft season.
So it's a splurge day. I usually I get one
of every I don't go to Cheesecake Factory. I couldn't
handle that many desserts. But I usually get like, you know,
go to like a nice steakhouse, but I don't order
anything other than every dessert on the menu. But no,

(03:44):
like tonight for the series, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
So wait, so after you get downe the direct that
you're working the draft for Yahoo, so you'll come back
and you'll treat yourself to an all dessert night.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah so correct, Yes, So, like I'm in La right
now because that's where yea who's doing the stuff. So
after this afternoon, I'm flying back to Nashville. Actually, I'll
get to Nashville tonight. I will go to Dave and
Busters and I'll probably order like three or four because
I don't know how many desserts they have in the menu.
But like a couple of years ago, I want like cake. Yeah,
a couple of years ago, I went to Flemings, Right, yeah,

(04:17):
Flemings in West Hartford after the end of the draft,
and I sat down at the bar and I ordered
like the six desserts they had so like the key
lime pie, the cheesecake, the crembrewlet, the chocolate cake and
whatever else.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think, how them?

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, I mean, look, I was a fat kid for
a reason. Like I take good kill, but how do.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
You handle all that? All that, like that sugar taste,
Like I get like whacking up a dessert here and there, right,
but you're gonna you're gonna dive in to six of
them without any savory.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Like people think that I'm exaggerating here. I can eat
an entire cake at a sitting and that's no problem
like that there is, like there is no when when
I was every Sunday for years, I ate a dozen
double chocolate donuts and that was during the Raiders game.
Always a dozen double chocolate donuts. And that's not the
only thing. I mean, that's just the kind of the
way you get through the game. I get the whole Like, oh,

(05:09):
doesn't you Tommy hurt after that?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Man?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Grow up?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
If you're tummy hurts after a dozen donuts, you know
what what do we do?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, that's also give me you invest you are inst
Uh what a what a wild? I mean, this draft
has been incredible, man, what amazing theater. It starts with
obviously Thursday and the first round and the run on quarterbacks.
Man six in the first twelve. We we thought it

(05:38):
would be one, two, three, four. I'm stunned the way
it all put worked out where it becomes, you know,
three and then six in the first twelve.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
That it's wild.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I'm gonna hurt my shoulder patting myself on the back
so hard here. But like, for a minute, I got
I mean wrecked on Twitter. I got wrecked by Raiders fans,
my beloved fellow Raiders fans, because I kept telling everybody
a month ago, like I think it was Field Yates
over a month ago that said. I asked him. I
was talking to Field and I was like, hey, Raiders

(06:14):
at thirteen, what do they do with quarterbacks? And he
was like, and I was asking about bo Nicks at
one point? You think they're interested? And Field said, without hesitation,
Bo's gone at twelve to Denver. That's done. And like,
I was like, really, so, if you think quarterbacks are
gonna go one, two, three, four, and Nis is gone
at five, which is what I thought going into the draft.
You're telling me that there will be five off the

(06:35):
board before thirteen, and He's like, yep, at least I've
been saying five off the board for a long time.
Now we got six. But I'm still sitting there. I'm like, Okay,
I was stunned by Michael Pennick junior. We were all
stunned by Michael Pennick junior. But if you buy the
theory that there were gonna be five in the first
half of the first round, you're gonna have to be aggressive.
So like, of course six and twelve is that I

(06:57):
think a crazy amount, But my god, it's just a
new NFL. Like you draft a quarterback high because if
you're wrong, you just get rid of them. Like the
dead cap number for Bryce Young today if he was
if he was cut, is thirty one million dollars. That's nothing.
So teams just they're gonna keep rolling the dice every year. Now,
they're gonna just take quarterbacks every year until they find

(07:17):
the one they want.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, and and listen, it's when you start to look
at it the league. You still need there are teams
that still need quarterbacks, and we told about your raiders.
I mean that's just the bottom line, man, I mean
it was. It was just a very incredible draft, which
really helped the value between the receivers, the quarterbacks, Joe

(07:42):
all the run, historic run on offensive players. Just incredible, man,
I mean it was, well, I have Tony draft is awesome.
And now you got Saban with his flaming red hair.
I didn't realize his hair was that red. Yeah, at Belichick.

(08:04):
I mean, it's pretty awesome to have like the one
of the like two of the greatest football minds actually
out there talking about the draft. I'll be honest, I
love those two guys, all right. There are two incredible Croatians,
and I think they're brilliant guys. So I love listening

(08:24):
to them, and I find it just really really interesting,
really insightful. I've enjoyed this draft, I think almost as
much as any than ever.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Well, the funny thing is, you know, covering it for Yahoo,
what was amazing is that once you had the run
of six and twelve on the quarterbacks, that meant everything
pushed back right, and so to your point, all of
a sudden, if you thought this was a deep wide
receiver class or deep offensive line class. We all knew
that coming in, but all of a sudden, because of
the way the board broke, like you got teams in

(08:57):
the twenties, like look at the Eagles. All the Eagles
did was like they're sitting there, like, man, they walk
into the weekend thinking, golly, we need help, we need
help in the secondary. Who would have ever guessed where
they were picking in the twenties. Then all of a
sudden they'd be able to look at the board and say,
wait a minute, guys, we can have any corner we want.

(09:18):
Every single great player is still on the board at
the position we need the most help at and it's
a value. And then in the second round they sit
around it's like, oh, what do you know, we got
to move up a little bit. But like a corner
that everybody thought could go in the first round, that's
a really versatile piece that could play safety and do
a million different things in Cooper Degen just sitting there
like this draft broke so well for good teams that

(09:41):
all of a sudden, we're picking in the twenties saying,
oh my god, I cannot believe this guy is still
on the board because there was such a run of
quarterbacks in the open of the draft.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I gotta tell you. I mean here, we're sitting
there going in.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I talked to to how would just be a text
and it was like from the board man, you didn't
have to do you don't have to do anything. No,
yesterday got really busy, and what that allowed them to do.
They were willing to trade up. So they were they
were thinking it all along that they would have to
trade up. They wanted quarterback or o line, right, and

(10:16):
that was their big deal cornerback. So when both they
have the choice, no one thought that they would in
their wildest imagination that they would have the choice between
the two best corners in the draft. So you go Kenyon, right,
you go Kenyon Mitchell from Toledo, and then you're in.

(10:37):
The Eagles, for example, had fifty and fifty three in
the second round. So then they were able to consolidate
that yesterday move up to get Cooper de Gene from Iowa.
And now you got a kid that could play slot corner,
a kid that could play safety, you know as well
as and I talked to uh to my man's bags

(10:57):
and we were talking about him, and he said, you know, listen,
I'm don't even hesitate putting on the outside. So like
you know, like that's a that's a monster draft. Like that,
you come away and then they love this kid off
the edge from Western Kentucky. Actually I'm sorry Christian Kentucky, Christian,

(11:18):
this small college player. It was a vic Fangio was
in love with him. So they got him and it
was so for them. It was a great drift. I've
died to see what you think of the Raiders. We
uh going brock Boers get. I love brun I think
brock Bowers is a star, but I'm curious that what

(11:39):
you think the first round, you know, going all in
on a on a player like him.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Look, I think the most important thing that you can
find out about your team and this this is what
like the the the push and pull of the world.
We all know that draft grades get clicks, right, so
everybody does draft grades. I want to live in a
world where we stopped great things that we can't grade yet.
But I think there's one thing we know in the draft.
You find out the true identity of what your team

(12:07):
is trying to accomplish. You find out where they think
they are. You find out what their path is and
what their logic is, and if you don't find that out,
you got a massive problem. So here I am sitting
on the clock now. I think the Raiders were genuinely
interested in Michael pennixs junior at thirteen, he wasn't there,
So knowing that he wasn't there, I really thought, Okay,
they're going to take the best fat guy on the board,

(12:27):
or they're going to take defensive help. Right, there's no
doubt about it. My first thought that as I'm sitting
there on camera, Brock Powers is selected and Charles Robinson,
our insider, was getting all the picks in advance, and
he just looked over. He's like, oh, you want to know,
and I'm like, yes, it's Brock Powers. And my jaw
just dropped, and I didn't really know what to say.
And everybody on our panel was like, well, how do
you feel? I was like, I feel stunned because the

(12:49):
Raiders have, finally, for the first time in I don't
know how long, made life simple. Best player available, Yeah,
never gets you in trouble when you're a bad team
man in the board.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Breaks start reaching.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah, there's this moment of I've spent years having to
defend well, why would you take that guy there? And
now all of a sudden, it's like, Nope, the draft
board just worked in a way where somebody that should
have gone in the top ten was still sitting there
at thirteen because of the way the board broke. You
just you take him. And frankly, they did the second thing,
the same thing in the second round with the power Shopson.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
By the way, Jackson Powers Johnson is the Senate from Oregon.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I love that pick. Dude, he is a stunt. I
had him going somewhere. I had him ranked somewhere in
the h or in the twenties. As far as prospects,
we had him graded Baldy and I watching all the film,
I love I love that pick for them.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Well, and what do those picks tell you? What those
picks tell you is that Tom Telesco, the GM of
the Raiders, now looked around and said, Yep, we need
to add talent, and we need to stop worrying about
fixing it right now and start fixing it long term.
But it doesn't matter if we have a need for
a weapon. We need more talent. So it does matter
whether because you know, obviously they just signed Andre James,
their center, to a deal. Now they've anounce they're going

(14:05):
to move Powers Johnson to guard, which is something he
played also in college. We'll see how that plays out.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
But I think what you think Jackson's I think I
think you can use him a guard. In fact, I
told to the Eagles about that too. I think about you.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
What you learn, though, is that Telesco's looking around saying,
I don't really give a damn what we have right now.
I got to make this team better. I'm gonna make
this team better every single pick, and that that to
me is it's such a stupid, simple logic and something
I haven't felt for most of the last twenty five
years of my life. And the first time we've been
on camera for me Covers, my seventh year cover in

(14:38):
a draft, and it's the first time I've walked away
from the draft saying, like, you know what, I understand
exactly what this team is doing right now. This team
is best player available, going to make themselves better.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, let's before We're gonna go through each team, and
over the course of the first two days, we'll go
through each team and kind of take a look at it.
But the big story obviously was Panics. And you know,
I told you I love Panics. We sat down with
him early in the process and I just love I

(15:09):
love his arm. Nobody throws outside the hats like he does.
He's got a canon. I don't care about his age.
His medicals I'm told were good. And the only thing
is and let's discuss this Atlanta with the Cousins factor,
I know they look at it like it's the best
of the world's best for most worlds because he just sits.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
There's no pressure on him.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
And you got this kid, And if something happens to
the Cousins, especially after last year's with the Achilles, you
got you know, you're you're not dead in the water,
and you know you got a chance to really own
the the NFC staff with both quarterbacks going forward over
the next decade.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, if that's the plan, I'm just.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Telling you from that that was the plan from their stand.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Right, But then you could have communicated that to your quarterback, right,
And I completely there's a moment here where you can't
You can't convince me of two things at once. You
cannot convince me that Kirk Cousins was a smart signing.
But then also tell me that by you know, also reiterating,
hey didn't tell them we were going to sign we
were going to draft a quarterback. We didn't tell them
we were gonna draft Michael Pennick junior. And you also

(16:17):
can't tell me they were surprised because the first seven
picks went chalk all the way across the board. The
first seven picks went chalk. So when Atlanta was on
the clock, they had their choice of exactly these GMS
run scenarios. That was one of the easiest scenarios to
predict who was off the board. Atlanta knew that scenario
was coming. They didn't tell their quarterback that they just
gave over one hundred million dollars too. They drafted this

(16:39):
other quarterback. They at the same time, they chopped their
entire locker room off the knees. Damien Harris was sitting
next to me, and the first thing is he said
is as a player that just retired from the league,
he said, Man, I'm sitting in them there and I'm saying,
if they will do that to quarterback one, if they'll
do that to QB one that they just gave all
that money to what do they do to me? They've

(16:59):
lost trust in the locker room, they've lost trust with
their quarterback, They've lost everything with this pick. Even though
I love Michael Pennix Junior, I hated this pick for
the Falcons.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, and how about you know what's fascinating it's the
owner right, Like you had to explain to the owner,
like how does that work?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
How do you working at Arthur Black and you're explaining
the Do you saw the video of him explaining the pick?
It's like, oh my.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
God, No, this is like if your girl comes in
and with their phone and she's just holding your phone
up because she found something. Like you're sitting there you're like,
I mean no, like it's not really what you think,
Like that's what was happening right there. Arthur Blank's walking
in saying I wrote a check for what. No, no, no,
it's not what you know. You're busting Falcons got busted.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I know that piece of it. How do you not
tell cousins? And how do you not tell Arthur Blake?
I know, how is that? Like? If you look at
the giants right ownership, Marrett goes all right, listen, if
you guys take quarterback.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I'm good with it. Like you know, I'm blessed the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
If you think that JJ McCarthy is the right pick there,
then you go JJ mccartt, which I think they should have.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
They should have gone quarterback. But whatever. The ownership's on
board either way. But didn't looked like Arthur Black was
on board.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah, there's there's a lot to this. I don't want
to push.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Let's wallpack it. Come up.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
We got lots. We can blow through commercials, which we can't.
We're also we'll get in.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Trouble Marks in person. He can come in here and
punch me.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
If we don't.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Are you're in STANDI here, I'm looking the fellas for me,
would you?

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I mean, I think I have to call it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, that's awesome. All right, we'll come back. We got
lots to do with the fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano
as we hang out on a Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 2 (19:46):
All right, welcome back, fellas. I heard you're wiggling right now.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
There's so much going on.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Let's go. Yeah, I heard it, my man, I got
I got eyes now.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Now you got eyes on you. Look, everybody should see
this wiggle. I'm just saying we need to be on
TV while we're doing the Simulcaster show just to see
the wiggle.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yes, yeah, well we need to incorporate that. Although you'd
see my crazy dogs in the background.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Now you're not talking me out of it. Crazy dogs
and wiggling all of the same show. Let's go come
on now, Look, this is gonna be the real because,
like you mentioned earlier, we were talking draft. I've cut
you off before we've even gotten into this thing. But
let's be real. Like night one of the NFL Draft,
y'all who every single pick, no commercials, and then we
did two hours with the podcast afterwards, slept yesterday, covered

(20:36):
every single pick, no commercials, did podcasts and tapings afterwards.
Took about an hour and a half. Nap came over
to the studio. I'm juiced, like I am on one.
The amount of caffeine in my body right now would
kill most people. So like there's just gonna be wiggling
like weird things are gonna be moving. This is the
way the show's gonna go. It's gonna be a weird
movie show.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, I love it, and listen, I'm with you, you know, listen,
I'm completely with the old caffeine top.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I was.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Here on the East Coast, I got and I know
you're going all night, so you're on fumes right now.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
On caffeine fumes I've got. I was up at four.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
After watching basketball last night late, so I got a
couple hours and after the draft, hoops and it's a
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we get off the air. Fellas from the tire rack
dot com Studios. All right, let's get back to the
uh the panic situation, because it's it's fascinating. Let me

(21:50):
first just put Panix to the side, because I think
you and I I loved Mike right, so I love
the kid and I'm excited for him. It's just so
busy are some of the quest ones? You just go
what like what you spend one hundred million dollars? And
it was funny. I was talking to Baldi, He's like, well,
it's in the shorance policy.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
It's because he's he was talking to some people.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
In Atlanta and like the defense is Hey, like, we
got a quarterback for the next ten years. His name
is gonna be Cousins, then Pennix and Pedix is gonna
in the perfect spot learning from Cousins, but it still
negates the communication aspect to Cousins, like you said, and
to Arthur Blank the owner, and in reality too to

(22:37):
the fan base because at that point, like you got
another weapons, you got offensive line, like you got other spots.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
That you could build this football team.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
There is a very real element to of this that
I will I'll just call the culture of Atlanta, right,
because I've been lucky enough of my career to work
with some people that love Atlanta and call Atlanta home
and are justlant through and through. El Duncan is one
of the most Atlantean people I've ever met, Harry Douglas,
to the former Falcons wide receiver. When you talk to
those guys about Atlanta all the way back to when

(23:09):
Belichick was interviewing, I remember talking to at the time
to Harry and saying, Hey, what are people in Atlanta want?
And he laughed as he was like, not Belichick, because
in Atlanta, they want people that represent Atlanta. Atlanta is
a bigger thing than just who's my team. It's who
gets this city from the music scene to the sports
scene to all of it. I mean, it's just just
being real again. I said last night, I was sitting

(23:32):
next to Damien Harris for the first two nights of
the draft, just retired from the league, happens to live
about forty five minutes outside of Atlanta, And the first
thing he pointed out when all of this was going
down and we were all shocked, He's like, look this
fan base. Who do you think this fan base is
going to gravitate to the person that reminds them of
Mike Vick, the left handed quarterback that's black, that understands
communication with the culture of Atlanta, or Kirk Cousins, Like

(23:55):
there is a real when you talk about the fans,
the fans are going to be behind Michael Penny from
day one because at some point, for Atlanta, it's bigger
than anything, like it's it's about do you get us
as people because it's such an important part of that.
Michael Penick Junior is going to be such a rock star.
Like I love Mike, I love what might could be

(24:16):
to the Falcons. I love all of that, but you
have to acknowledge then you've just created a storm, Like
you've drafted a quarterback that throws the ball with the
left hand instead of the right, So the delivery of
the ball is going to be different. You bring him
into a locker room that has young weapons. Who do
the your weapons going to respond to Michael Pennick Junior?
Or are they going to respond to Kirk Cousins? Like
there's just this moment, so it's fine, but don't treat

(24:37):
me like I'm stupid Atlanta, Like, don't tell me about
this insurance plan when you just spent all this money
and you're about to get hit with tampering charges because
you went so or penalties for tampering because you went
so far to get Kirk Cousins. Yet now you're like,
oh no, but we need an insurance policy, Like how
how is that possible? Those two things cannot align.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Well again, well, let's think about it right for a second.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Because it's it's there's seemingly no answers, So what's the answer.
So clearly you got smart people, right, like they're not dumb.
Like you listen as someone as a veteran sports writer
and you know, now, sports broadcaster, I've been to Atlanta

(25:22):
a thousand times.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Right, all you need to do.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Is pass through Atlanta and pay attention for five minutes
and you realize that what you said about that city
is you know first and foremost that it's a city
that wants to you to understand it's not about sports
like Philadelphia and Boston are kind of cousin cities, and
you can throw New York in it two with the

(25:45):
Burroughs that it's about sports, right like they these cities
love sports. Phil love He's got an inferiority complex. It
wants to be loved, which is why they love Bryce
Harper Atlanta. Uh, it's not just about sports, like you said,
it's about the culture of that city. And so obviously

(26:08):
with a rich African American culture like you look.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
At Panics and if you if you get.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
To meet Mike, Mike when he feels comfortable can really
just kind of take over.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
A room for you.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
So uh.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
And the football standpoint is, you spent one hundred million,
hundred So why do you do it?

Speaker 4 (26:27):
I think in the moment, the only smart football mind,
I'm gonna take all feelings aside. I'm gonna say, you
know what, you don't know how the draft board is
gonna break. So you go out and you get yourself
the best quarterback you possibly can, so that no matter
what you are in a situation where you can win.
That's the logic I put behind it. But if you're
going to do that, you have had weeks, you've had months,

(26:51):
You've had time to make sure that Kirk Cousins knows
the plan. And this is like me sitting next to
Charles Robinson. Charles was was texting Kirk's agent right away,
and Kirk's agent was playing as day immediately in response.
We had no idea, never saw it coming. And part

(27:11):
of where that just to me speaks to like, how
do you treat people if that's how you'll treat your quarterback?
And there's a small element of this of like, if
that's what you want me to believe, the logic is,
how did you not explain that to Kirk from the outset?
Like the entire quarterback market of the NFL changes with
Kirk Cousins signing in Atlanta versus any other place he
could got the whole draft like.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
It was unbelievable and set a whole draft skew.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
And if you're Kirk and you moved your family down
there and you made the decision to take the money
from them when you had other offers, you did it
because you intend to play now. I hear it when
they're like, hey, worst case scenario. But let's also acknowledge
this is different than Jordan Love. Even if you love
Michael Pennick Junior and you think, well, we're just gonna
sit him for two years. So by the time your

(27:59):
quarterback actually has any meaningful playing time, if you do
this plan, it's gonna be year three. He's gonna be
twenty seven years old at that point, and you're gonna
have to make a quick decision when he's twenty eight
about picking up that next option on him when he's
twenty nine. Like, this is a different situation. I know
we love to look at Brady and Rogers and guys
that are playing till they're forty, but that's not every quarterback,

(28:20):
especially not every quarterback that's had multiple ACL injuries. It
might have multiple injuries to deal with in his life, Like,
we don't know that he's gonna play untill he's forty,
So your plan was to use Kirk Cousins and then
just basically discard him for an old Michael penickx junior
at that point getting his first shot at all. This
Like it just doesn't make sense. It just feels like

(28:40):
it feels like it lacks identity and purpose in every portion.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean, So here's what he says. This is what
font Tho, the GM of the Fountain says. If you
believe the quarterback, you have to take him. And if
he sits for four or five years, that's a great
problem to have because we're going we're doing so well
at that position. So it's a simple as if you
see a guy you believe in at that position, you

(29:03):
have to take.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
So then again, I'll go back to this, like we're smart,
and when we were sitting there, we've covered this draft.
Every person listening to this right now that freaking loves
the draft. You read every mock known to man. Let's
remember how this draft board went. Picks one, two, and
three were quarterbacks as predicted, right at some level, quarterbacks
as predicted. Pick four was Marvin Harrison Junior, as predicted.

(29:27):
Pick five was Joe Alt as predicted. Pick six was
the only place that there was a little chaos. It
was Malik Neighbors instead of JJ McCarthy, So that is
as predicted. Pick seven was an offensive lineman as predicted.
If you're Atlanta and you say that, if your answer
is I love that. Find me the simulation that you
ran as a group that didn't still get you Michael

(29:51):
Penix Junior at eight And if you knew there was
a chance you loved this kid and you simply chose
not to tell your one hundred million dollar quarterback until
you were on the clock, shame on you because that
just breaks trust to the entire locker room. So even
if I buy the logic, your communication of it sucks
to the people that actually needed.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well, it's the thing, and so here's the other thing.
So after his pro day, they said a contingency of
eight people. Fine, though the Kyle Smith, who's the assistant
gm Raheem Mars, who's your coach? Uh Robinson, who's your
O C Right, Tyler Yates is your quarterbacks coach?

Speaker 3 (30:33):
They sent eight people there to visit with him in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
So you you come away your gogga over this and
you signed cousins to this Megan deal. I mean, you
gotta you gotta talk to the agent and say, at
least tell them what's.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Going on, because if by who's the bottom line?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
The bottom line is, hey, Like you gotta get everybody
on board, like this is what we're doing, and hey, Mike,
if we take you, there's a chance you you might
have to sit for I mean, think about that what
he said four or five years are you?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Are you insane?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
I mean I feel bad for Mike in that situation.
He doesn't want to.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
And I'll be pushing thirty right and not having played.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
This nap And then think about to all the years
you've been around the league, right, brother, think about this.
Kirk Cousins gets signed. What's the first thing a quarterback
does when they get signed. They call all the weapons
they're gonna be working with you, and they're like, hey,
let's go to the park and throw. And we always
lobbed this. We're like, oh, it's so great. Like they're
reaching out to the players and say let's go throw.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Oh they had a uh uh they flew to Shane
the a gun, Yeah, and flew and played catch on
the beach.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
We make such a big deal of that, and we
know that that's what Kirk immediately does. Guys, that's the
type of guy Kirk Cousins is fine. Right, Well, now
Michael Pennock Junior gets drafted at eight, he's gonna call
the guys the same way because he wants to work
on his development, his timing. You've now put Drake, London
and Pijon and all these guys in are really weird situation.
Like as a locker room, there is going to be

(32:04):
some disconnect, like there was some element of like no,
I'm not gonna And one thing that the guys that
will tell you all the time is locker rooms need
clear leadership from the quarterback position. So where's that coming from?

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Now?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, the only other, the other the other piece of
it too is you know, Panis is a guy that
remember when he got to Washington, he's in Indiana. He
turns Indiana into uh, they had that really good year.
They got his highest seven. He goes into portal, goes
to Washington. Everybody who's leaving, Pulk was leaving, Dounia was leaving.

(32:36):
He has a meeting with the receivers at Washington and
he obviously is a charismatic kid because he convinces them
to stay.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
And then they.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Go through this whole you know, great run and last
year to the National Championship, the whole nine. But imagine
like you got a kid that that could talk to
receivers like that, and now all of a sudden like
your cousins. I'm sure cousins got to feel like he's
on the outside of it.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Well, and I'll run full circle back to what you
were talking about with the owner. If you're Arthur Blank,
you're not and I say this gently, You're not particularly
young at this stage in your life.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Right.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Part of the reason you wanted to go all in
on a quarterback and a new coach and change the
direction of everything is because you're looking at it saying
I want to win. I want to see us get
to that lance.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Like.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
So, the thing of it is, if you told me
that this was the Chiefs, I mean, I know it's
a bad example because of Mahomes. If it was a
team like the Chiefs, You're like, hey, perennial Super Bowl
contenders and they chose to draft a quarterback, I'd say, hey, okay,
kind of weird, but I get it. If you told
me this was the forty nine Ers, who when they reached,
admittedly for trade lance, their roster was so dang stacked.

(33:52):
You looked around, You're like, okay, well you reached a quarterback.
You got a great roster. You can afford to take risk.
The Falcons were not without flaws from them, and they
came into the draft in a year where they're supposed
to be investing because they're trying to win the NFC
right now. Did the Falcons do anything this weekend, not
just with that pick, but with their other developmental picks.
Did they do a single thing that made them better

(34:14):
towards winning a Super Bowl this year? The answer to
that is no to me. And if you're drafting for
the future at the same time you're investing epic money
to win right now and you still have flaws on
your roster, I can't make that plan makes sense.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
No, no, all right, we gotta take quick time out.
I got to ask you the Giants decision to forego
the quarterback, all right, because I think that.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Was another grave mistake.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
A team shouldn't tuk a quarterback takes one and a
team that needed to pass one up. We'll talk about
the Giants coming up next. We're the Fellas Stason Fitz
Anthony Gargana right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
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Speaker 2 (35:01):
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lot about the Falconses. Everybody's doing panics, and let's go
to a team that I think should have drafted quarterback.

(35:21):
I love Milik Neighbors, so listen, you know, I get it.
Once upon a time took Odell from LSU and it
really worked out. But that's predicated that you have belief
in Daniel Jones. And I don't understand what they see
in Daniel Jones. I didn't get the idea of the

(35:43):
when they came in that second contract. I don't get him.
I don't think he's any good. I think he stinks.
And listen, as someone who covers the Eagles, I agree,
you know that's great. Stay stink, all right. But I
like what Brian dabeles A sharp guy. I love Dabo right.

(36:04):
I loved him in Buffalo under Sean mcdermany, who's a
friend of mine, and I was like, oh, that's a
great hire by the Giants.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
They got Dable.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
You know, Dave b like going back when he was hot,
and he went back for one more years O seeing
the Buffalo Bills, then goes to New York and I thought, wow,
that's that's a great hire for New York. He's going
to turn that franchise around. And what's he seeing? Fitzie, Like,
what do you do? You do you make sense of that?

Speaker 4 (36:30):
No, And here's the surprising thing, because look, I thought
quarterbacks were going to go one, two, three, four, because
I felt like the Giants were a prime suspect to
trade up to four, Cardinals trade down to six. They
stayed in range to get one of the best wide receivers.
Like that all made sense in my brain. I sat
there as the Giants were on the clock and thought,
my god, if you're in New York, you gotta feel

(36:50):
like a million bucks right now. If you wanted JJ McCarthy,
he's sitting right there for you. So the fact that
they didn't take him, it's particularly surprising to me. Look,
whatever quarterback they did or didn't want, it's particularly surprising
to me that they stuck with the quarterback they have
simply because next year's quarterback class doesn't look particularly great

(37:11):
right now. And that's real. If you talk to people
around the league, they'll tell you that it's a quarterback
class as of right now. Sure a lot can change,
but you can't bank on change. Being that, you can't
look around if you're an NFL team and say, well,
maybe somebody has a sudden Caleb is not.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Caleb is not sitting there like he was going into
this year.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
No, one hundred percent. And so if you're the Giants,
not only did you pass on a quarterback this year,
you put yourself in a situation where you're gonna be
under the gun next year as well too if it
doesn't work. Now, I understand what. We just want to
get more weapons, We need more talent for the quarterback
that we have. I just when you are in striking
distance now, Daniel Jones is going to be constantly compared

(37:55):
to whatever happens from J. J. McCarthy, Michael Pennix Junior,
and Bo Nix for the rest of his career, right
because the Giants made a decision not to take any
of those quarterbacks and stick with the quarterback they had
in a year where everybody sort of gravitated to that position.
They told you, thanks, but no thanks, And I just
I think the hardest thing is I have a hard

(38:16):
time finding what the eventual answer is if it's not
Daniel Jones, because they're not going to be in a
prime position with a great quarterback class next year.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
And you know what is odd was McCarthy seemed like
the perfect fit for New York. So and you'll agree
with this statement. I talked to you know, scores of
people during the draft, like you do, and everyone just
gushes over jj And the thing is is because he

(38:47):
just aces like he understands what to project. He is
perfect as the face of a franchise, and a franchise
like New York. He could handle it like that that
kid can handle it. Seemed to be a perfect fit there,
you know whatever, you project him as good athlete, you know,

(39:10):
good arm. He may not pop like any the top
quarterbacks were having the big arm like Panix, but like
he's got all those other intangibles. What in the world
like to me, Like you had your face to your
franch I'd sit.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
There, especially if you're dable. And I know, I think
we all agree that this is a make or break
year for him at the quarterback. Yes, I'm a big
believer that. Look if part of how you got there
is your greatness in developing Josh Allen, It's pretty easy
salespitch to go in and say, well we just don't
have the right quarterback. Let's go get one that I
can develop and I can, really, I can put my
hands on from day one and we can start this

(39:47):
process over. It makes so much sense for him as
a coach. I don't understand how we don't get to
that point. And maybe it's the Giant saying, hey, we
don't want to start what inevitably becomes a bit of
a rebuild with the new quarterback. But you're gonna be
there anyway. Like again, I'll use the did you make it?
Did you make up ground against the best of the best.
Did the Giants get closer to being as good as

(40:09):
the Cowboys or Eagles with their draft pick? I still
don't believe in their quarterback, so my answer is no.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
In fact, I thought Washington had a great trip. We'll
start going around the team by team coming up next hour.
But I love what the Commanders did. And then you
got a quarterback, new.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Team, new GM, new owner, new coach, new quarterback, new
everything in Washington, So that means new benefit of the data.
I think they did pretty well with the equity they had.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I think they're gonna built something where the Fellas Big
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That's Safety runs First dot com. Jason Fitzanthony Gargano. As
we're talking draft and the whole thing. So we got
into a conversation yesterday.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
It's funny. I love Covino and Rich They're fantastic and.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
They're okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
And I heard one of the probos and they were
having a conversation that I was having yesterday because we
were all talking about the role of the girlfriend, right
like we saw who is in Isaiah Wilson and his mom,
Yankee's girlfriend off his lap. The the role of the

(42:24):
girlfriend at the draft and what are places now they
got to learn the girlfriends that truthfully, in the pecking
order of a young man when it comes to this
momentous occasion in their young lives, that they are.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Fourth. All right, now, it all depends on his mom
or dad.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
There are the siblings there that sort of thing, but
at worst they're fourth on the packing order. Mom is
always number one, Dad is always number two, and should
you know, should be right there with mom, and then
comes siblings and then the girlfriend blood first when it

(43:17):
comes to getting the accolades of the draft.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Like seriously, you're getting too nice.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Like, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Sit down.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
The girlfriend shouldn't even be allowed to the party, right,
let's just be see. Here's the here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
It's me.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
He's not he's not thinking about the future. Here a
couple of things. Number One, if this doesn't work, like
if she's got a ring, Like if it's Bo Nixon,
it's his wife, then that's the most important thing in
the world, absolutely, one hundred percent. If it's just girlfriend,
like okay, play this out couple of different ways. Number One,
you end up in love and everything is perfect and
you guys are together for the rest of your lives. Great,

(43:53):
all right, maybe she gives you some grief, but that's fine.
That's that's that's the downfall. The others the other side
of it, like you end up breaking up every time
that draft video plays for the rest of your life,
your ex's and if you eventually get married to somebody else,
she gonna be mad. You're not even gonna know why
she's mad at you, and she's just gonna be watching

(44:15):
the draft. You're like, baby, I didn't even know you
right then, It's like, yeah, but you knew her and
she was at your draft party. She got to express
that moment in your life, and I did. Like, you
don't want any of that. You don't want that smoke.
She shouldn't even be there. Keep me, you know, like
meet her later that night at the party and make it.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
You know, dude, I agree, Come on, listen, it's even better.
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I'm completely with you. Because what's the uh, what's the
hit rate? Like we know that drafting its center in
the first round is ninety six percent, right, that's a
good hit rate.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
That's a very good hit rate.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
What's the hit rate on a twenty two year old
dude about to go into the league on the girlfriend
becoming a successful marriage and.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Partner and wife?

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Especially because like with like is it the is it
six percent?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Like? You can't convince me that it's any higher.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Here's the thing, too, Put yourself in his shoes for
a second. He knows most of the time if he's
a first or second round draft pick. He knows he's
about to get drafted. He knows he's about to get rich,
knows hes about to be famous, he knows his dreams
are about to come true. Now he can have his
girl sit on the couch with him, and that's fine,
But he also knows that with everything that's coming, he
can afford any ring he wants, and he is not
giving it to her because if I don't see a shiny,

(45:37):
sparkley ring on her finger, there's a reason he hasn't
done it. He knows his life's about to change, so
if he doesn't feel good enough to ring it up,
then he shouldn't feel good enough to put her on
the couch and take that moment away from mom. Like,
that's just And also to your point, my god, if
he does end up marrying her and everything's beautiful, his
mom for the rest of their lives. Every Thanksgiving, she's

(45:59):
gonna she gonna make some sort of common If she's
anything like my mom, she's gonna make some sort of
common about who got the first hug after the draft announcement,
who got the first hug? Like you just need, like
your mom to be a little angry, like you do
one one thing. You don't call your mom on a Sunday,
and then all of a sudden, three days later she's like, well,
you know, I remember the draft. I didn't even get
the first hug I raised you.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, no, no, listen, that's the truth. Like,
and just think about this, right, and then think about
the role of dad. All right, Now I have two sons.
Now it's you know, I don't think that they're gonna be,
you know, drafted. They both play football. The chances are
they won't be drafted. But let's just say they do.

(46:39):
All right, let's say they get drafted. Now, who spends
his whole life right all, you know, waking hours worried
about his sons, right, going to practice, work it out
with them, getting them set, teaching them out the lift,

(47:00):
teaching him how to teach him how to play the game,
how to play the position right, going in and doing
the extra work with them, watching the film with them,
right like, you know, listen, we do that stuff all
day long. I'm like, I was at a baseball tournament
freezing my ass off last night, right talking to him
about you know, the whole thing. We get to the

(47:20):
field early, working him out, you name it, right. I
mean today that I got a loved game and luckily
it's not you know, three hours from uh wherever from
my house. It's a it's a little close by another game,
and then I got a lifting lifting session with the
with the my older son, right so, and by the way,

(47:41):
don't forget all the expense of everything.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
I deserve a hug on draft day.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
No oh yeah, no, you deserve like the father son moment, right,
like there's a father son and look like you know,
as we've talked about before, and I've always been very clear,
like I don't have any relationship with my parents at
this point in my life. But I will say this,
everything I ever accomplished in my music career was because
my parents sacrificed everything to allow that to happen. I

(48:09):
have so much respect for what has to happen for
your kid to get to the one percent of anything.
I was lucky to get to the one percent of
music at one point in my life. To get there,
it takes so many people that do exactly what you
just talked about. And Like, we've been working together for
less than a year, and one thing that in the
first few months became a parent is that your priorities

(48:30):
will always be on what's best for your family. Like
that's part of That's one of the beautiful things about you.
It is like we could sit here and josh around
about a million things, but at the end of the day,
it is so clear that you will prioritize that thing
and it's an incredible Like I respect the hell out
of it, right, Like, and you talked about the sacrifices
that you've made, but you don't see them as sacrifices
because they're putting your kid in a situation to get

(48:53):
what they want to have right and get to have
everything that possibly can make their life easier. When you
think about that moment, that draft moment to me, like
I watched The Raiders post the video last night for
Powers Johnson when he was drafted and like his pops
are sitting next to her, like and you could just
you see this moment like because to your point, it's
about the the travel games where you sat in the

(49:15):
car Like for me, like it was about like when
I got into Juilliard as a little kid. It was
sitting in the car with my dad for hours on
that drive every weekend. We're just sitting in the car talking, right,
Like it's just those moments are the incredible things, Like yes,
you get Mom gets the first hug because she's mom,
and like if she doesn't get the first hug, she's
gonna remind you the rest of lefe shitting at first.
So Dad gets the second hug because the first thing

(49:37):
Dad's gonna say is go hug your mom, right like
that that's just where that work, right, But like second
hug goes to Dad, like and then third hug. If
you got siblings, hug sister then brother, Like we know
this is like it's that's just the respectful thing to do,
Like it's mom, Dad's sister, brother.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
We got this exactly exactly, and listen, Ah just to
be clear, it's their day. Whatever it is, right, whatever accomplishment,
God blessed that they that happens to them in their lives.
It's their day. I want them to shine. I you know, listen,
we don't need to live vicariously through them. I don't

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need to do that. So I'm happy for them. It
is their day.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Don't you see more athletes too appreciating that sentiment? Like everybody,
not everybody. Most of the guys I talked to leading
up to the draft for Yahoo, when I would ask, Hey,
what are your draft day plans? The overwhelming response was
I want to be around the people that got me there. Ye,
and like you can only bring a certain number of
people with you when you go to the draft site,
like walking stage. Even when I asked Damian Harris on Yahoo,

(50:36):
I asked him about his draft experience, and he said, Man,
I know for a lot of people, it's really special
that you get to walk the stage. I wasn't drafted
early enough that would be part of my journey anyway.
He's like, But for me, I just I wanted to
be with everybody that gave up everything for me to
be able to get there. I just I think that
more and more right now we see young guys the
being drafted into the league appreciating. Man, I wouldn't be

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here if it wasn't for this crew.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Well, I gotta tell you, I was saying this the
other day. They were a friend of mine and I
was we were talking about it was yesterday because I
was I said that these kids are impressive, like they
impressed me, these young people. I gotta tell you, there's
a lot more respect. I don't know, I got a

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good I get good vibes from this draft class and
these and these young kids. I was impressed by the
by them, watching them, their demeanor, the whole thing. You know,
I would think back to, like, you know, meathead stuff
that when I was a kid, Like these kids look
seemed pretty grounded to me.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Yeah. I think that comes with the fact that we
spend so much time talking about nil and transfer portal
and uh. You know, one of one of the guys
on the panel for the draft for US came from Rivals.
He works for Rivals, and he talked about how more
and more there are high school athletes right now that
already have brand managers and all of these things. I
think the know you're worth. A society of young people

(52:02):
right now also know their opportunity, you know, and so
not everybody handles it the right way. Certainly, you know,
you can look at some of the guys that have
had incidents in the offseason and say, man, you were
getting ready for the draft, how'd you do that? But
for the most part, it just feels like the people
right now elevated, ready to take the next step. Guys
and girls like you look at it the way the

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WNBA draft, just what you saw a bunch of young
women that came in and knew from the outset like, Hey,
this is my opportunity, this is the way I'm going
to do this, this is what my career needs to be. Like,
there's a different responsibility understanding an opportunity understanding out of
young people now that we've ever seen, especially the ones
that are living in that one percent.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, man, you're so right, you're so right.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
All right, let's get back to the draft itself and
to go back to just to put the ball on it.
We brought up toward the end of the last hour,
and that was the future of the Giants and the
act that they forego the quarterback and take the leak
neighbors and listen, I love the leak neighbors, but I

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still don't understand going that route when I just don't
think Daniel jones Es salvages. I don't even I can't fathom.
I don't see what they see. I just think it's
a complete and utter mistake.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
I think the craziest part to me is that if
you look at the NFC East overall, I have no
idea right now what the Giants are actually trying to accomplish.
I have no idea, frankly, what the Cowboys, the team
I've been really kind to if anybody's listening to any content,
I've said, hey, the demise of the Cowboys is overrated.
I don't understand some portions of their draft at all. Also,

(53:48):
I do understand where Washington is going. I do understand
where Philadelphia is going. Like it's just it's so interesting
to me if you take your emotion out of it
and what you want as a fan, and you just
look at it and say, what's the direction. I don't
know what the hell the Giants are trying to accomplish
right now.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Well said, I still got it. Go, You're not going
to compete for the division. You're not so Malik neighbors
when you look at them, like, I love them all right,
but he's a luxury.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Like I know you want to, you know, put the
pool in, but you know you got no roof.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
I mean to that. God, you're so right. And the
thing of it is, I'm going to go back to
if you believe, well man that just a quarterback wasn't
there for us this year, so we're gonna go get Malik. Okay,
but the quarterback is not going to be there for
you next year either, So what what are you doing?
You're either the Giants are now on the clock to
figure one of two things out, how they're going to
salvage the career of Daniel Jones or what free agent

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quarterback they're going to go overspend on that that's the
only way in a year that they have a quarterback solution.
I do not believe any team can look at next
year's draft as the solution to their quarterback situation right now.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Crazy obviously, I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I mean, just insane, and uh, just to talk about
Washington for a second, I'd love kind of their mindset.
I love, first of all, you know, It's funny. You
remember all the heat about Daniels VJJ, and I love
the fact that they I'm a Daniels fan.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
I love the kid. I think the kid's going to
be terrific.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Bye by far. Like, look, if I was sitting here saying, man,
the Raiders could have any one pick out of this
year's draft, it would have been, uh, it would have
been Daniels one hundred percent. So yes, I'm with you
on that.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
And then uh so then let's take a look at it.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Right, So you got you got Daniels, and then I
loved Greson Newton, all right, who's defensive tackle from Illinois
they wind up getting They go get a tight end
and the kid from Kansas State, yeah, Senate yep, Yeah,
and Ben Sinnett, who's terrific. You go get another guard

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in Brandon Coleman that like, and you get Luke McCaffrey
white out, who was a sit in space kind of kid.
I like, I love their drafts. I thought they did
a good job. I think Newton is a star.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yeah, they also got Sam Still. Oh that's right, they too, right,
And like you're talking about a dB that started at
wide receiver. And so the funny thing about him that
I think it really has to be pointed out is
that it's rare to say somebody his age has a
lot of upside and growth because he's like twenty four,
and so you sit there and say, yeah, he's a
fifth year. He's twenty four. He is who he is, No,

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he is, And he's only been playing corner for a minute, right, Like,
he's got two seasons basically at corner works. So you're
talking about somebody still learning the position. That is that good? Like,
I think he's one of the steels. I think he
was one of the best picks. And Washington, to me,
they had a ton of equity in the second and
third round. They had a ton of picks, and they
used him in a really smart way, like instead of

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instead of packaging things and trying to reach up, I
felt like they did a smart way of maneuvering around
the board and then taking as many stabs at it
as they possibly could. I think this was a great
draft for Washington.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, man, all right, let's do this. So let's have
a little bit of fun and go around the around
the league team by team.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Uh will do that. Also, I have to throw this
at you and Roger Candell talked about it the other day.
I've been bending figures here. I mean if I told you,
oh god, I mean Lincoln Kenny and I started to
show like an eight the Fellas seven, and shortly thereafter

(57:44):
I came up with I used to kill him all
the time with this Gargano plan about what I wanted
to do with the NFL. One of the things I
wanted to do was an eighteen game season and play
the super Bowl on President's Day. Like it just made
no sense to me that you have an American holiday
in the super Bowl played a week or two before

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everybody's off in President's Day, Like, why wouldn't you meld
the thig? Why wouldn't you go to eighteen games? Why
wouldn't you do a double pie? And it just is
a neat package. Well he hinted at it, and after
all these years and they used to kill me him
and figy, Oh my god, all you want to do
just leave it alone, Leave it alone. But it's such

(58:28):
a perfect package to go first half by second half
by eighteen games, run it, play the super Bowl when
everybody's off the next day. Tell me that's not perfect, fitsy.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Tell me it wasn't an accident. The same day they
talked about that, they were also like, oh, we're gonna
let people wear the Guardian caps too if they want,
because player safety matters. Like I think, right, yes, it
is a perfect Everybody wants more football. I want more football.
You want more football. It's inevitable. I think it's a
brilliant plan.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Yeah, thank you, Thank you, Fitzy, you have an amazing foresight.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Jason Fits Anthony Gargana. Where the Fellas hanging every Saturday
right here on Fox? All right, welcome back Fellas from
the tire rack dot Com Studios.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano, All let's take a foray around
the football.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
We're not even gonna acknowledge here that the new Kids
on like Mighty Mark when New Kids on the Block
and KOTP Like, I don't know how I feel about this.
Mighty Mark was just like something that was writing, was
it in the wheelhouse? Where you're just like, that's just
because I wiggle. So now all of a sudden you're thinking,
like you.

Speaker 8 (59:37):
Think, since you're here and I can actually see you wiggle,
it's that's the point.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
I mean, I just don't know how I feel about
wiggling to the new kids on the block, Like, I mean,
that's just and although also like can you still have
kids in your name when you're like fifty, Yes, when
you have abs like they do, you can say whatever
you want. Good for them. They got bank accounts, they
got abs like new kids on the block doing it
the right way. Okay, go ahead, go ahead, all that
wish you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Explain real quick before we get to do it. Mighty Mark,
give me your eyes for a second. What do you
see from Fitsie?

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
There was no wiggling for new kids. I refuse to
wiggle for new kids, so I had an explanation. But
there's been some wiggling.

Speaker 8 (01:00:16):
Go ahead, there's a manly sort of wiggle when you
hear a good song. You know, anybody can tap their
foot or you know, just shoulder movement. But if your
hands come up, oh yeah, and then you you make
a move like the like the gopher and caddy shack.
When you do that, that's the point you gotta you know,

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you all right, you know, but it works, It works
that way.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Also, like there's a lot of clapping going on in here,
Like there's a lot of coming in on the back.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
See he tries to hide it. He doesn't turn his
mic on a little bit. When you start talking, then
he may turn his mic on, but before that, there's
a whole dance.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Well see here's the thing, like, okay, so can we
get in the weeds for a second. Like a lot
of people don't realize this, but we're usually not in
the same room, right, and so we're on these things
that are called com rexes as we do our show.
And the problem is comraxes have a tiny delay. So
sometimes when you're listening to the music, what you hear
is me clap and I'm like yeah, yeah, and it's
on time in my comrax But what you guys hear

(01:01:17):
is like it sounds like the widest rhythm you've ever
heard in your life. That's like a fraction of a
second late. I will remind you all. I may not
be able to dance well, but my rhythm is impeckable. Okay,
So I'm just a right, I'm just I'm on one.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
I'm sorry, cousin, No, I love it, man, say we
hit a nerve and it all comes out highly entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
As you know, rhythm, you know, all right, let's Uh,
let's go to a team by team it is we
look at the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
We'll start with Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
So Arizona, obviously, uh, they stand pat they do not
trade out. They take Marv and look, with all the
they had in the war chests, it just makes sense
to get Kyler, the elite weapon. And then they just
go right Darius Robinson off the edge, who is a beast, right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
I like Darius Robinson.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
They get Max Melton, who's the corner out of Rudgers,
Trey Benson running back from Florida State. Isaiah Adams, she's
a tackle from Illinois. They get Elijah Jones, another corner
from Boston College. I look like a nice draft from
Arizona's perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Yeah, and I feel like it was a good identity draft.
I keep saying that. But look, number one, they get Marvin,
who most people had as the best player in this
year's draft. Take position out of it, best player might
end up being one of the best wide receivers we've
ever drafted. That being said, Kyler Murray is now also
going to be compared to these quarterbacks that were still
on the board that they chose not to take. I
understand why they chose. I'm just saying that that's part

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of it. But after that, what do they do? A deep,
defensive minded head coach went out and got a bunch
of defensive players. And I don't think we should be
surprised by this at all. Like you got a great
weapon that's really going to help your quarterback, and then
you turn around and say, we got to start getting
some playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. I
think really strong draft layers on overall.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Yeah, I do. I agree. I'm with you. Let's go.
We talked about Atlanta, We're gonna go knock buckle order.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Let's go to Baltimore and the Ravens and they get
Nate Wiggins, the speedy corner out of Clemson. I think
good value at that position. Drafting number thirty of the
first round. You come away with Wiggins, who gives you
good athleticism, and Rosy Garden Roger Roseen Garden, who I

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think was good value at the thirtieth pick of the
second round, the tackle out of wash He did pure
tackle who you can develop. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
They also not for nothing. In the third round, get
Adissa Isaac out of Penn State.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
And as we were sitting there and we read that off.
I literally said, I was like, I totally forgot that
he was even still on the board. And he's really good.
Like it's just Baltimore doing what Baltimore does. They just
sit back and they're not afraid to have a boring draft.
They're not afraid to take you know, big fat guys,
They're not afraid to take difference makers that everybody else
is still kind of looking at. I thought that was

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just really strong. And by the way, Nate Wiggins was
somebody that a few months ago people thought was going
to be a top half of the first round draft. So, like,
I know, size is a bit of an issue for
your like size as in weight is a bit of an.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Issue for him, but man six and seventy pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Yeah, and that's being I mean one hundred and seven.
Like I feel like you might have worn like he
had weights in his shoes or something like it. It
felt like, yeah, but yeah, I love this draft for Baltimore. Like,
by the way, you're gonna hear this a lot. I
don't think there were a lot of really terrible drafts.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Go ahead, Yeah, no, yes, I'm with you. I feel
like I felt like the same way. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
The Bills, obviously they needed a receiver, Kean Coleman out
of Florida, out of Florida State. They go Keon Coleman able.
You know, he ran a sub four to four forty.
I'm curious what you think. Actually, Uh, it was a

(01:05:13):
We ran a four to sixty one. Yeah, he's got size,
but not Uh. They were a little concern about not
running that four to four. The A lot of receivers run.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
A little slow, a little bit tough when he gets jammed,
like he has a little bit of hard time with separation.
But I'll say this, I keep going back to Damien
because I'm sitting next to somebody that was just in
that locker room, Damien here, right, And Damien told me
the night before the draft that the Bills were completely
comfortable not taking a wide receiver at all because this
is the way they look at it. They look at

(01:05:46):
Josh Allen is going to get them between forty and
forty five touchdowns combined. All right, That's that's his total
number is going to be forty to forty five between
his rushing touchdowns and his throwing touchdowns. They don't care
where that comes from. As an offense, they're not concerned
about the hits that he takes. And they look at
it as a team and say, is there really that
much wins above replacement if we bring in somebody else.

(01:06:07):
Like when they say they don't think they need a
true number one, it's because they believe that the difference
between you know, for everyone that thought maybe they were
going to try and trade for Debo or Brandon Ayuk
or something like that. If you're the Bills, they just
looked around and said, hey, we we like the room
we have. And by the way, we think that Josh
is going to be good for forty five touchdowns no
matter who he has, and if he gets somebody great,
it's only going to make that forty five touchdowns. So

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they view wide receiver there internally far different than we
view it for them. But yes, I think Kean Coleman
a good player. I think it's good draft cole Bishop
safety out of Utah, so somebody that can hit, somebody
that can run. I like him a lot, So I
think it was a good one for them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Yeah, here's the thing though about their thinking. And I
get it. You're in Buffalo and you know when it's
time to win in December and January. You know, the
weather's ridiculous, the whole thing. Yeah, where's the space come from?

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Like, I love the fact you got a run game now,
and that's great, and I love Josh Allen to death.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
But where's the space on the field? Like, that's where
I think it's faulty thinking. And you know, we bring
up Kean Coleman and his lack of speed, like, I
don't know. I like Dolt Kaka from that spot. I
think he's a good weapon. Where's your speed at?

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
It's not there yet, I would be for me. I
wasn't surprised they went wide receiver in the second round.
I was surprised that that was the wide receiver pick.
Remember that. In order to do that, let's not get
it twisted, the Bills traded the Bills the trader. Bills
traded with Kansas City, allowing Kansas City to get the
fastest guy that they could possibly get. Like, Kansas City

(01:07:45):
gets the exact wide receiver they wanted because the Bills,
the team that they keep beating in the way to
the Super Bowl, allowed that to happen. So the Bills
not only didn't get a fast wide receiver that gives
them speed. They traded in a way that allowed Kansas
City to get speed and traded out of the bottom
of the first round where they again could have had
anybody they wanted. They still get a wide receiver. But man,

(01:08:07):
I think some of those trades are gonna If Xavier
Worthy turns out to be who we think he's gonna
be in that Kansas City offense, we can all blame
the Bills for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
I gotta tell you, I'm stunned that they did that.
Like I'm stunned.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Now, that's where you put like if Andy Reid in Beach,
Like for those two guys, you put the little red
flags they do not call, do not text, You put
those markers around their name, and when they call on
draft day, you just send them straight to voicemail. I'm
not helping you for anything. Like Kansas City always gets
it right, So when they're calling, I figure they're going
to get it right. I'm not gonna help them do that.
I was stunned with that tr I too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I know I was still to same like you trade
with Andy Listen, I don't care what anybody says.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
And he knows talent, right and he knows offensive talent.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
He knows quarterbacks, he knows receivers, he knows offensive linemen,
he knows that stuff inside.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
And you're gonna move when you need that, say you
have that same need that they do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Yeah, first of all, I think they messed up that
they should have traded up to try to get Brian Thomas.
When Brian Thomas is sitting there at twenty three, why
aren't you on the phone trying to move up like
Brian Thomas. That would have been a great pick for Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
I also think that when Xavier where they just absolutely
burns the Bills in a playoff game for a touchdown,
we're all gonna look at it and be like, huh,
much like I mean, we praised the Eagles earlier, and
we praised Washington, but Washington was the team that traded
with the Eagles to allow the Eagles to get Cooper Degen.
The first time Cooper Degen turned around and gets a

(01:09:44):
pick six on Jayden Daniels, We're gonna we just need
to remember that that's because Washington allowed that trade down.
I don't get rivals trading with each other. I would
never do it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
I would never do it. I would never do it.
I mean the other thing too, is I was surprised.
I mean I like Pearsol. I like Pearsal better than Coleman.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Yeah, and piersal is somebody that they had better options.
You're right, And I think I keep saying flavor of
ice cream when I cover these wide receivers. But it's
like everybody has their favorite flavor of ice cream. But also,
when you're making a perfect Sunday, you can't hodgepodge a
bunch of flavors that don't go.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Together and right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
And I think you are right that this is just
one big old bowl of like what are we doing?
You know, there's just it doesn't fit.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I don't I don't like the way they Again, I'm
a big believer in you've got to create space.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
It's just it's you know the one thing about sports
with a mobile quarterback ahead, Yes, exactly, it's geometry, man,
It's what it is. You gotta have speed. Speed opens
things up, right, Like you gotta have guys that can
work the middle, you have the guys who work the outside.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
You gotta have playmakers, right, And the same thing like
in the NBA, it's spacing on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
All right, that's why you need shooters, like you need
somebody to stand the floor and then you can have
all your post presence and like it just it's all
about spacing.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
I did a film breakdown a couple of years ago
with a bunch of former players, and all we did
was look at at the time Kansas City. We were
looking at Tyreek and the impact on how teams defend Tyreek, right.
And what the interesting part about that was if you
look at it the way that you know, Frankly, Kelsey
was just open all the time, and I'm like, how
is this happening? Well, what was interesting is for anybody

(01:11:30):
that goes back and watches the all twenty two right,
you could see that the defense was not only backing
up for Tyreek, they were cheating to where they thought
the route and ball placement would be mean and they
were because they were cheating pre snaps so hard. All
Mahomes was having to do was simply audible to these
quick little outs because there was no way to make
up the ground. For Kelsey, all he had to do

(01:11:51):
was move his hips one direction. He was wide open.
That's what great speed does. That's what Xavier Worthy is
going to do, by the way, for this Chiefs offense
right away, and that's what the I think, you know,
we agree, that's what the Bills need. They got a
wide receiver. I don't think they made Josh Allen's job
any easier in this process, and like, I just hate
that for Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
By the way, I learned that the stuff off of
Andy Reid that way back in the day. So he drafts,
he's got mcnabbed, he was a mobile quarterback. He drafts
Brian Westbrook, who was an incredible weapon out of the
backfield on a wheel, great speed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Guy right, like you know, home run type of hitter.
And then he goes and signs Terrell Owens.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
And so we were talking about the triangle of having
a mobile quarterback Westbrook out of the backfield, who you
can put out on this in the slot, and then
outside got like Owens. And so what happened was he
had a guy on the outside that would just run,
who was a speed guy, would just run go routes right,

(01:12:57):
and it was it just made a lot of sense
that you could put a guy like Todd Pickston wasn't
any good, but was fast, and he would just get
manned up all day long. So once again he would
have a big play and it was all because of
the spacing on the field. He's like, look, I know
he can beat his man because he's fast. He doesn't

(01:13:19):
have great hands, but he's going to connect, you know,
every once in a while on a huge play because
they're just going to single them up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
And look at the advanced analytics on the poor performance
in the red zone for many offenses, in many quarterbacks,
it's living breathing proof that when you lose that spacing,
everything gets tougher. So if you don't have a way
to create that spacing from the twenty to the twenty, right, Like,
if you don't have the the ability to create the
spacing in the green zone, what are you gonna do?
And that's where I think to your point, Like for

(01:13:49):
years we sat here and said, man, I just need
Buffalo to commit to running the football. Fine, they've done that,
But now I'm looking at and saying, well, you got
to make the job easier for everybody involved in that process.
I don't think I really like key On Coleman, the kid.
I like ke Coleman in some offenses, but in this offense,
he doesn't provide.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
The way that when you don't have you got no speed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Guy again, I think you would need somebody as a
complimentarc Guy's one thing like you lose Diggs. Diggs as
a playmaker. Yep, all right, we'll take quick to you.
We'll come right back. Continue our foray around the League
of Fellas on Fox Fellas on a Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Talking draft. Gotta love the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
So six and twelve first picks quarterbacks won't continue going
around the league, but six and twelve quarterbacks, six and
the twelve first picks quarterbacks, and we all know that
there is a you know, there's going to be some
that make it and some are busts and some are okay.
And what's your vibe as far as the breakdown hit

(01:15:02):
miss okay? I love this question.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Uh, we go down in order. Caleb's a hit to me.
I think Caleb's an incredible quarterback. I think we've overanalyzed
the entire thing. And by the way, I mean, for
the first time in the modern draft era, a quarterback
and a wide receiver are both selected by the same team.
In the top ten. He gets his buddy in Rollman Doonday,
who comes in and is immediately going to make an
impact on an offense that already has a couple of

(01:15:27):
number one wide receivers. I mean, I think I think
the Bears have sneakily put themselves into the wildcard conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
The North is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
That's yoked man, Like I love every Emerald God. So
I think I think Caleb's going to be great. I
think the Bears are going to be happy, and I
think the Bears are about to have a generation of
success at the quarterback position for the first time in
team history. So that makes me happy for Chicago. He's
going to be an absolute rock star.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
I love him that I loved you if that real,
just as a quick aside because you referenceding, But if
any city deserves some quarterback lock, all right, And I'm
not talking about sid Lock all right, I'm talking about Chicago, man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
They need some luck QB lock man.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
And I don't know, I like it when the Bears
are good. I just think it's it's fun. Like when
the Bears are a just a really solid team, I
just feel like it hits for me. So like I'm
rooting for Kayleb Williams to be as good as like
if he's two thirds of the player, I think he's
going to be. To me, this is can't miss. They

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got the guy like good for Chicago. Jayden is interesting
to me because I I love Jayden. I told you
like that was my number one. My god, I want Jayden.
He is slight a frame. I called him a wee
little man and I was told that, you know, that's
not a complimentary thing. But he's just like he looks
like a stick figure, right, like when he was standing
next to to uh Cam Newton on the carpet at

(01:16:55):
one point on the NFL network, I was like, man
if if Cam like Fluffy's gonna blow him off the stage.
Like he's just a he's a tiny, tiny person and
he's playing in the Cliff Kingsbury offense. And not to oversimplify,
but let's remember Cliff couldn't even win at Texas Tech
with Pat Mahomes. So, like, I just don't believe in
Cliff Kingsbury. I'm sorry. So I realize it's a little

(01:17:15):
bit of a I think Jayden is great, I'm not
sure I trust Washington.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Okay, So on this scale, like so you got Caleb
is a lock, let's go scale.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
So one to ten. Ten they work out ten that
you know, it's their tens.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
I think Caleb is going to be one of the
faces of the league. I'm giving him a to Oakes.
I give James six, yes, six and a half seven
someone in that like, because I think he's really good man.
I think he's really good, and I think Washington had
a really nice draft, so I give that. I'm higher
on Drake May. I'm curious where you are on Drake because,

(01:17:55):
like frankly, I think Land and Drake may is is
a good, good pick. And I understand everybody says, well,
his play dropped off last year. Yeah, his web hats
off and like they lost. I mean, yeah, I really
like I like, I think Drake may has a chance
to be very good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Well it's funny like you said this, right, like, because
I think the same thing, right, So I'm going I'm
looking around and I like the quarterbacks, Like honestly, I like.
I like them, and you know, I know intellectually that
a couple of them are going to be complete bus

(01:18:32):
and probably you know, only one or two will stand
out and have a like long career. But I kind
of like the quarterbacks. I like where they're at you know,
I kind of you know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
I mean a chance to be that that sort of like,
oh my god, draft at the quarterback position. I think
a lot of these guys are have a real chance
to work. I know they shouldn't, but I think a
lot of these guys have a real chance to work.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
It's like it's like, look at look at JJ. He's
in a great spot. You got Jefferson, you got a
terrific coach, you got like a lot going for you
in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
Well, and so here's something we we had our guys
reached out to all the agents that they could. Yeah,
and they asked this question to a bunch of different agents,
if your quarterback kid, whoever they might be, could land
with any team, who do you want it to be.
Every single answer came back Minnesota, every single one. So

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you're talking because they got the play caller, they got
the pass catcher, and they got the pass protection. Like
if Jay, any quarterback that went to Minnesota was going
to be successful, I don't love I don't know Jay.
I think JJ's incomplete to me, Like, I'm like maybe,
but JJ, Minnesota, I'm all in. I give it like
an eight.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Yeah, I hear you. H's funny. It's like I think
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
And even bow Nicks that I'm you know, I was
not like I was luke warm at best as a prospect,
and I think at twelve is really reaching. But I
look at it and go, you know what, Sean Payton,
that's a good spot form.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Man, I just don't trust that roster like a tough spot.
That's a five for me. I like bo a lot
as a kid, but tough spot with that roster. God,
that's gonna be tough.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Well not immediate. But do I give Sean Payton too
much credit? Like because I think Sean Payton will fix it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I think Sean can do a lot with a little.
But man, that's asking a lot for even Sean Payton.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Well at some point they I mean, I'm talking a
couple of years down the line. Fellas right here, Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, buddy,
Well happy, happy happy Fox Sports Saturday. What a or
an embarrassment of riches? Right, we have NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs,
and of course the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Day three, This is the true gee them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Day three of the draft right, like you're so right,
Jason Fitzanthony gar got it from the Tireck dot Com studios,
Robbie Sisher right like when you go, oh my god,
I can't wait to see who's on the board now.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
So I gotta be honest, brother. I owe an apology
to so many people that have done great work for
years on the draft, because, as I've said a million
times to you and on this show, I love the Draft.
I have loved the draft my whole life. I remember
where I was for key picks in my life. I
remember these moments. They stick with me. I've always watched
Day three and for years as a fan, I would
sit there and I would yell at my TV. I

(01:21:47):
yelled at ESPN, I yelled at the NFL network every year,
and I'm like, damn it, it's the sixth round. I've
never heard of this guy. I don't need you talking
about what happened on Day one. I need you to
give me a breakdown on this player because I don't
know anything about him, and you're over here talking about
off season acquisition. I used to just yell every year. Now, man,
after covering it, this is my seventh year I've covered

(01:22:08):
the digital show of a draft right six years for ESPN,
the first year with Yahoo. I'm telling you, man, you
get into about the fourth round. Any on any of
these you get into the fourth round, you're like, so
the Falcons Panix, Like, it's just because you reached the spot.
We did it last night. We're sitting there on Yahoo,
We're going off on some of these picks, and then
you just reach a point where you're like, I a
fact I was taking here. Let's talk about the off

(01:22:30):
season acquisition of the I own an apology to everybody,
because like there is a spot where you're like, let's
just talk about quarterbacks. You who knows what these guys?
Who knows if a fourth, fifth, sixth, or seventh round
pick is good? And by the way, if they are,
that's a luxury. Like you won the scratch scratch off
lottery ticket. Congratulations, go cash it, right, Like there's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Like unique talents right like you go, you have unique
situations injury upside right, Like you take a flyer to
the guy that's an injured guy, right, so whose medical
is not good?

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
So you take a shot laid round, You take a
guy like the Eagles a few years ago, to Jordan
may Alatta, who was a rugby player, right and in
the seventh round, a huge project, and it just turned
it just so happens that he turned out to be,
you know, a stud left tackle, right like you know,

(01:23:27):
I mean, that's just.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Like you're drafting for traits at this point, right like,
once you get four, five sixty seven, you're just looking
around saying, you know what, he's fast, I think I
can develop him. He's he's strong. I think I can
develop him. And that's where you have to trust your coaches.
Like I mentioned the reaction because we did this really
cool thing in the Who Sports app that has been
I think one of the coolest things I've ever seen, honestly,
are been a part of with the draft where on

(01:23:49):
every pick, fans can give an emoji so they can
give like fire or cringe or humh as an emoji
response and then you immediately see how like everybody else
reacts to it. And it was so funny to me.
You'll appreciate this as we went into last night. Even
you go, if somebody was drafted from a small school,
I don't care where, I don't care what school they
went to. If somebody came from a small school, nobody

(01:24:10):
had ever heard of them. They either got the cringe
emoji or the huh emoji if they came from Michigan, Washington, Alabama,
any team that made the college football Playoff. Fire fire, fire,
fire fire. Right, Like, we're at that spot now where
people just want names they've heard of at some point
on a Saturday to be acquired by their team, and
they're like, oh, he's gonna be real good. But I'm
just telling y'all like, at this point, if they make

(01:24:31):
it to round four, there's a reason they've made it
to round four.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Yeah, spot on, spot on. So how was it? How
was the the emoji kickoff?

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
Over a million people chimed in with emojis over the
course of the last couple of days. You know, we
had We had over one hundred thousand people watched the
show that we did night one, which is for y'allhoo,
you know, huge numbers. So we're growing something that I
really love. I've said this so many times, but like
the biggest draft show we did in Vegas that year
for ESPN was the biggest one we ever did. It

(01:25:02):
was me and Dominique and Mina and Field and Harry
Douglas Spencer Hall. We had ten million views. So, like
I wind everybody that the draft think about this. Two
hundred thousand people lined up in Detroit stood shoulder to
shoulder for roughly six seven hours to watch a job
fair Like most of these guys aren't even gonna make

(01:25:22):
it in the league and they stood around for hours.
Just go huzza when your team picks like that's it
is amazing to me the phenomenon that the draft truly
is now, Like we have spent the first several hours
of this show breaking down the draft, and let's acknowledge
the fact that the Stanley Cup playoffs are going on
right now and the NBA playoffs, like the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Playoffs now, so post you know what's funny, I have
you know, so I have I do everything of a
notebook called Ball of School, right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
I knew that about you, Like the little spiral up, Yeah,
that's that's on brand, yes sir, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Yes, yes I can take your picture of it. You'll laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
So I'll notes and everything and like you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
An outline of what we know I want to bring
to you and that we're going to talk about the
whole thing. And you know, I keep looking to go
bring up the NBA because there's a lot of storylines
in the NBA. And you know, I'm consumed in my
own right because we have a series between six Ers
and Knicks, and it's like filly New York. It's like

(01:26:22):
a big deal, and I you know, I just can't
get there. I can't find my I can't like kind
of push myself there. There's so many other things with
this draft for you brought up Detroit, and I don't
want any more time to go by. I love what
Detroit did. I think Detroit showed out.

Speaker 9 (01:26:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
I think that's a great town. It's a great sports town.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
I love the fact that the dressed in Detroit, and
I thought the city and all the response was great,
was great. And taking it from city to city, like
it's like this traveling play, Like I think it's awesome.
I remember when it was in Philadelphia and it felt

(01:27:11):
like a like a almost like one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Concerts, right, Like it felt like that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
We had, you know, scores of people on the Parkway
leading up to the Art Museum, and I mean I
had to be you know, close to a million people outside.
It was it was wild. It was like a festival,
and so I think Detroit really showed it. Curiously what
you think it's.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Been incredible for Detroit, but it's it's one of the
moves that the NFL makes that I think has been
overlooked as one of the smartest things we've seen in
modern sports, because now you get cities that don't really
always have a shot at the super Bowl because of
their situations, whether it's weather, the stadium, or whatever. You
also get cities that may not be in the same
rotation they want to be in, and the city shows

(01:27:59):
up for three straight days, and then when you start
including the broadcast that lead up to it, it's a
week focused on this one place, right And what's so powerful?
Like you talk about Philly because at your core, you
are Philadelphia and you are proud of Philadelphia. And I've
had several people tell me, man, Philly was one of
the best locations I went. First time I went to

(01:28:20):
a draft, I went as a fan podcast trying to
make it. I went to the Chicago Draft. I had
a buddy that got me tickets to the theater, so
I was able to be in the in the room
for the Chicago Draft, and I knew right then. I
think it's the most incredible experience because fans are just
partying everywhere, and they've got exhibits and setups that show
off the city but also show off teams, and you
can get to do these interactive things and there's this

(01:28:41):
brotherhood to it. And for me, I'm very lucky to
the two cities that mean the most to me in
the world are Nashville and Vegas. They've both had the
opportunity to host the Draft, and it's so powerful because
it just feels like your city has the opportunity to
show the world how amazing you are. It's the the pride,
the civic pride that goes into the Draft is far

(01:29:04):
bigger to me than it is around the super Bowl.
It's far bigger than it is to me around just
a championship game. It's different than that, and it's become
this tenth pole moment for the league but also for
the city that hosts it, like Green Bay next year
is going to be wild as the host of the Draft,
and like I've been Bay, there's nothing in that city.

(01:29:25):
I played Green Bay a bunch of times in the
music business, right like, there's nothing there. There will be
that week like that we get is going to be
absolute camp like everybody's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I mean, honestly, you got to stay in Appleton. That's
where the.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
Cells are. Like the fact that, like how many fans
are gonna pay whatever it takes, because like they do
the tours of Lambeou and you can do a Lambeau
leap at the end of it. Fans are all gonna
pay for that. Like everybody's gonna want to walk through Lamba.
Like it's such a cool experience to just be around
the football history rich places and then to see Detroit
really get to celebrate some of the players that we
you know, they're legends, but we sometimes forget, like the

(01:30:02):
Lions don't have a great rich history and tradition of winning.
And boy they have won through the course of this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Yeah, I was happy. I agreeed it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
This is the beauty of the league, right, the beauty
of our love affair. It's actually less to do with
the league and more to do with our love affair
with football. And you know it's pretty it's pretty amazing
our love affair with it. So when this schedule comes out,
that's the next big thing on the calendar.

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
Where we treat.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
That thing and we already know the opponents, but for
some reason, the schedule release is like this like magical moment,
and it really what it does is it allows for
anticipation and it's like, oh, week one and maybe we
want to travel and look at our schedule and WS

(01:30:59):
and l's and it's all exercise and futility doing that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
But it's fun. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
I love it. But every year I also laugh at
the fact that right now you can google, like I
could go out and google Raiders opponents twenty twenty eight,
and of these seventeen opponents, fourteen are already known. For
the next eight years. We know fourteen of the seventeen
opponents all the way across the board, and we still
flock to it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Every year.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
We're like, oh my god, I can't believe the schedule's out.
Like it's like, yeah, you can look and see the
away in home games and fourteen right fourteen to seventeen,
but you're right there, it's yours. It's like, well, what
did we get a Christmas Day game? And like yes,
I mean we mentioned.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Christmas, Halloween, like yes, Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Now that the league plays on Christmas and is about
to extend to President's Day, which is usually NBA All
Star weekend. Like the NBA is just continually squished by
the NFL. At this point, Roger Goodell has just made
it his mission. It feels like to make sure that
they remind. It's like the big brother reminding the little
brother whose boss at every turn.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Well, it's funny because we had this discussion Philly the
other day because how we re he signed AJ Brown
through an extension, So the Eagles signed AJ Brown through
an extension, and then the Sixers were playing the same night, right,
and we had the draft and it's like they beat

(01:32:21):
the Knicks to make a like a huge game tomorrow
for that series. But like all people are talking about
is oh Aj Brown and then the draft picks and
then so it gets dwarfed.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
I said this, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Brutal, though, like because you're an NBA fan, I'm an
NBA fan to but like you love the NBA, right,
and I'm just sitting here saying, Okay, in a world
where we've devalued the entire NBA regular season, now the
first round of the playoffs, alls kind of doesn't matter,
Like what are we doing? Like it's just how do
you cut through the noise and you can't. The answer
is against the NFL, you simply can't. So now like, yeah,

(01:33:00):
you're trying to get everybody round, because you're right, this
Philly New York series should be absolutely the stuff the
dreams are made of, and it's having a hard time
cutting through.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
And I said this now, I you know again they
they have been stubborn to buy it. But I want
to get your opinion. When during the pandemic and when
they did the Bubble, the Bubble Championship, they had a
chance to completely change the NBA schedule, and dude, I

(01:33:33):
thought they really messed up. Instead of going back to
October whole thing. Why not start it, you know, Christmas
Day or you were you know, pick an arbitrary day,
but like Christmas Day was always the de facto start
of the season. And then you run it through where
you have your NBA Finals in August. At the end

(01:33:55):
of August, like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
It's there's nothing going on like in there, like the
times change. People go, oh, you know, it used to
be TV.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
You could never do anything in television in the summer
because of vacations, and you know, people were out about
they weren't home watching a box.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Well, now you could be at for every bar.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Every restaurant has scores of televisions, and your tablets everywhere,
your phone is everywhere, so you're constantly connected to watching
the games.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
Not and also if you want to take your kid
to an NBA game, you tell me it's not easier
during summer break. To me, it is like you're a thousands, right.
I'd start the season like, look, we're not going to
get rid of games. Nobody's going to get rid of
the inventory. So fine, just shift the entire season, make
it start on Christmas, or make it start on New
Year's I don't care. And then run it through the summer.

(01:34:51):
Give me the playoffs all summer long, with the championship
that ends in mid August, and then all of a
sudden like, okay, well it can cut through the NBA Final.
Is gonna beat out preseason football in some conversation, right, yes,
So then at least you're staying out of the way
because there's just not enough space. There's not enough space
for inequity.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
For all of it to happen. No, and I'll give
you the perfect day. You start on MLK Day. Oh,
that's strong, right, Like you got the whole day, you
run games from morning until night. You launch the whole thing,
you run it right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
And the beauty of it is, you know, October through
the Super Bowl, your sport is lost. It really is
like the playing game, all this other nonsense, right, nobody
cares about it. I would then start the playing game.
I'd have the playing tournament right, and I start a

(01:35:52):
right after the Super Bowl where you had that window
between the Super Bowl and March madness, and I would
then I would have the playing game playing tournament during
that period of time. And then again, you know, I'm
running it right through my and my only competitor is baseball.

(01:36:14):
And it's a perfect click companion because we all want
multiple sports going off at the same time. It's to me,
it makes so much sense. I just don't understand why
they abandoned ship.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
The other side to all of that is, remember that
now that we're about to get the college football Playoff,
like the expanded college Football Playoff, that's going to change
all of the attention in December too. This is one
thing I've talked to my buddies that cover college football
about all the time is that for years you finish
the regular season, you had the whole holiday off to
reconnect with your family, and then you know, you go
into the playoffs around the first of the year, not

(01:36:48):
anymore like the college FOOTBA playoff is going to start
the weekend before Christmas, right, So just the NBA needs
to understand that the weekend before Christmas is going to
be all about college football and then it's going to
be into the new year and it's going to go through.
All of this is going to happen at the same
time that the NFL season is coming to a head.
On the expanded NFL season that's likely going to go

(01:37:08):
to President's Day, Like this is all we are going
to be more football obsessed than we have ever been
as a society from December twentieth until February twentieth. So
now if you thought it was bad before, the NBA
is about to get absolutely drowned until March madness.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, it's so funny because.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
We just love it. We love football. I mean, and again,
I love basketball. You love basketball, love I love baseball,
and I know you like baseball. Like we get we're
into hockey, right, but there's nothing that gets us excited,
and I'm so stoked about college football. Like, you know,

(01:37:54):
the college football is just going to take this leap
that I think. I mean, it's already huge in the
you know, around the country, but there are pockets of
cities that you know, probably weren't the biggest college football towns,
like especially the East Coast, Bolston, New York, Philly, uh DC.
You know, these areas that don't have big time college

(01:38:16):
football programs. They're like, you're gonna get them all in.
Like there, it's it's gonna be a big deal. So
I'm completely with you. All Right, let's take a quick
time out. We'll come back and we'll start, uh, we'll
go through the rest of the teams as we kind
of look at how.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Everybody fared with the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargana right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
Nah no, you know it's look I my idea of
fashion is wearing all black with a pair of neon
shoes and a new no noxious watch. Like that's about
as close as get Like it's always a pair of
twenty dollars ob noxious neon shoes that look like highlighters
were painted on my feet. And I watch that, like
everybody looks on and says, what k the hell is that?
Like that's the closest I get to fashion, So like

(01:39:49):
the whole seersucker and like all that, like it's just
not my thing, and horse racing not my likes. I
just can't get into it, Like, yeah, this is not
are you a big Derby? Like isn't a cousin?

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
I mean nah, I mean I honestly, I you know,
get I I like, here's the thing. I love team
sports right like I'm a I'm a I need a
ball right like we're a buck. Like I love I
love you know, football, basketball, baseball, hockey, like and I've

(01:40:24):
grown to really appreciate soccer and golf, like.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
It's kind of my thing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Now, I will say this, the writer in me appreciates
the Derby, right, Like the Derby just from a And
it's the same thing with like boxing and you know,
an mma, like the characters around the sport, like they're
true characters that are like completely fascinating, you know, really impressive,

(01:40:56):
Like you know, it's just the rich tapestry, right, So
I appreciate that I've never covered I used to cover
huge events. I mean, you know, from Wimbledon to huge
fights to all the finals for every sport. I've never
been to to the Kentucky Derby, so I and I
would have an interest. And they're beautiful animals. I mean,

(01:41:17):
I you know, my wife has a horse and they're
just beautiful, like you know when you're ever around a
barn and see them like they're just majestic creatures.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
Okay, this is the least surprising thing to anybody, but
me around a barn doesn't really happen. Like I'm a
city boy, hard like country music, lucky enough to play
a bunch of rodeos, right, but like you can't get
the smell of rodeo poop out of your nose for
like for like two weeks, I got like the San
Antonio and Houston Rodeos respectively. They battle for the best dirt,

(01:41:51):
right they shore that dirt. They keep it in warehouses
and like there's this whole rating of the dirt, and
like I realized at one point, I was like, this
is all just like it's it's manure mixed with dirt
that we're proud of. Like I'm just did this too much.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
I know I did. I feel like, listen, I'm the
same way like you know now I will tell you
I'm an animal. You know you love the I We
all love animals, and I just see like, like, you know,
there are times when like I was working on a
TV show years ago and it had to do with

(01:42:26):
horse racing, and it was a scripted show, and I
went to like a track with the barns and and
I was doing research.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
And I just was falling in love with the horses.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
I just pet on my like know, like there are
dogs right like, but they were so interesting to me
because they're so huge and you know, so beautiful. But
to answer your question, no, I mean I'm not like
I gotta give a yo to my man's southside Chuck
who is already in Kentucky is already in Kentucky and

(01:42:55):
he's already I'll spend the whole week and he'll be
doing the whole thing and like that's his. That's awesome.
And there are a lot of guys, like a couple
of buddies of my huge horse racing fans.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
Buddy, are you Toots is a horse?

Speaker 9 (01:43:09):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
We've got the app out today, a lot of the
app out.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
You know, are you a mint julip guy? Because you
don't seem like a mintchuan, like, I mean none of it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
No, I'm not a min that's on bread.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Like, so what are we drink?

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
Like do you do what?

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
Whiskey? On the rocks? And the Derby because like, let's
if I'm going like, look, if the Fellows decide we're
going to do a show remote next year from the Derby,
which I'm all in for. By the way, I'm going
to be like Neon Searsucker, that's a little too tight,
like it's a little uncomfortable, like how how tight the
pants are? Like that We're going that way. There's going
to be a large hat that shames Cam Newton into

(01:43:44):
feeling like his hat game isn't strong enough, and then
it's gonna be minjulob and I don't even like mint Julip's.
I just want to be a caricature of the Derby
as I walk in. That's the only way I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
I'm with you, I'm completely with you. Like you you
got to zeal for life. So you're like, well, bleep it.
I mean, like, what's the customs? All right, I'll do
it right.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
You're right, you.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Wear a hat.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
You want me to drink and drink all right? Like
I'm down, and I feel the same way like I'm
you know, I'm the same way. I've never really been
exposed to it, so you know, quite frankly, I'm hoping
that there's playoff basketball in my town.

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
So you think there will? I mean, I know we
got to get to the draft, but can I just
check in with cousin, like how we?

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
How we?

Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
Because it's not a it's not a series until you
lose it home, so I gotta say right loud, but
I mean, come on the series. Everybody's got their eyes
on the Nicks and the Sixers. How we feeling?

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Brother?

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
So it's fascinating, man, they gave away one of the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
One of the lost like Game two, What post process
Fitsie the six Ers. This is the seventh postseason since
the process. All Right, they have yet to get out
of the second round. During the first six years, they

(01:45:05):
have been downright inventive in how they've lost. They lost
one of Kawhi Leonard triple doink that at the last second,
that when ding ding ding and somehow went in and
they lost. They lost when Ben Simmons passed up and
dunk against the Atlanta Hawks at home on Father's Day.

(01:45:28):
They lost when James Harden sagging in a Game six,
when Jason Tatum was two four thousand and somehow got
hot the last two minutes because you know, Hearten was sulking.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
And they've lost a myriad of ways.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
And Game two was probably the worst because you're up five,
should have been up six with thirty seconds to go,
and you just blow the lead and then like Nick
Nurse is calling time out and the ref I give
it to own button fairness. I know we wanted to
get a quick in bounce to Maxim's his best free

(01:46:05):
throw shooter. You got to call time out, advance the ball,
you got to get the ball out of the shadows
of your own end, especially when it was frantic and
your team was melting in the under the big lights
of Madison Square guard.

Speaker 4 (01:46:19):
Uh the hard part, Like, look, that clip went viral everywhere,
and I don't blame the TV crew that was doing
it at the time, but the way that was like, Oh,
I can't wait for the post game show, this is
gonna be a fun one. It felt like that thing
was so locked in, It felt like it was so done,
and to have that sort of a meltdown, I think
obviously the first question we're all going to ask is

(01:46:39):
what is the ancillary effect to that? Like how does that?
How do you rebound from that? There has to be something.
You're right, incredibly, the first thing I thought when I
saw that meltdown at the end was you. I just
thought of you, and I was like, this is It's
got to be a level of pain that you don't
want to be going through. But a bounce back when
in the next game gives me a little bit of
pause of like, hey, things can be a okay.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Yes, and it can be and they should witness And
I don't think either of the teams beat Boston right
Like I don't I don't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
But this Knicks team's not very good.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
The six years poliquly or not or the better they
have the two obviously the two best players.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Embid on the on the one leg inhibited by that knee.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
Still goes for a fifty burger, right, Like, that's one
of the one of the most amazing kind of performances.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
In fact, steven A said it, and I'm with him.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
If he's healthy, we may be remarking as the most
dominant performer in NBA history because embiid, Like, where do
you see a guy?

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
You saw that in Game three? He was feeling it
from three.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
He's seven two and a half, weighs three hundred and
ten pounds, and he's got a guy in his face
and he shoots over him like Kevin Durant at barrieres
of triple Like how many guys are doing that?

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
Doesn't that at some point somewhat complicate the legacy conversation
that we love to have so much in basketball? But like,
how do you couch the when he's healthy? This is
who he is versus the expectations that come with that.
And that's the hardest part. Like there are two things
that I hate about the context around NBA conversations. One,
I don't think championship or bust is an important part

(01:48:24):
of a legacy. Like I think it's still a team sport.
So like the over obsession with what how many chips
does he have is just stupid to me. But the
other side of it is the grind on some of
these bodies in the way that they performed, Like you
just watch you see this all the time being around guys.
I would for anybody that sits there and says, well,
the guys used to play every single game, I understand that.

(01:48:46):
I understand that. I also think we need to understand
the wear and tear the AAU causes now on knees
and legs, and watch an NBA player just walk like
just like basketball needs are a real thing. And it
really hit me when I was at the Fire four
in Phoenix watching all the former players and some current
players that were just you know, they're just bro dapping

(01:49:06):
each other up and saying hey, and then you'd watch
them walk away, And just the gingerness with which so
many guys, even guys that are still in or have
recently been in the league, Like the inability to just
get your body to move up a flight of stairs
without some help because of what it's happened to your
lower body. Maybe we have to remember with guys like EmpId,
like the impact on the body is very real to

(01:49:27):
what's happening right now. And I don't know an answer
to that, Like, I just think we have to have
more context around the body breakdowns that are happening in
the NBA right now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
Well, it's interesting because you see it with arms in
baseball right yes, and you could take it back to youth. See,
it's not so much pitch counts at the minor league
level or even the collegiate level, because you know, the
high school and collegiate coaches are kind of now becoming
more cognizant of pitches.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
But you shouldn't be playing BA.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
All year around, like Deck, I think the real issue
for these sports, it's the same thing with like AAU basketball,
Like these coaches are telling these kids, and I have
them at my at this age, that they need to
be playing these sports all year around.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
You're not supposed to play baseball all year around.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
You're supposed to give your arm arrest, right like you know,
you're not supposed to play basketball. And that start and
stop constantly those quick bursts. You got to give your
body a chance to change, to react. That's why the
multiple the multi sports kids I think are are better

(01:50:40):
suited because to wear and tear, like all that throwing.
Think about practice, right, Like think about baseball for a second.
You were talking about pitch counts.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
In a game.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Well, you're just constantly throwing, right, Like if you're practicing,
you know, a couple of days a week and you're
playing a healthy schedule and playing torn and the kids
are playing five games a week and practicing three nights
a week, Like five games during a week and three
nights a week, and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
A lot of wear and tell tear on your throwing.

Speaker 4 (01:51:12):
Well, couple of things to that. One I remember, you
know Jp Aaron Sibbia, who played in the Bigs for
a while, buddy of mine and for a while was
married to the lead singer of the band pair And
when they got married, he would come out on the
road when we hit the offseason. And one thing that
he stressed is like that he was a catcher at
the time in the Bigs and the first month after

(01:51:34):
the season he wasn't doing anything. He's like, my body
just can't handle it. You have to give a break.
And I'm thinking about that as you talked about it,
because last night having a conversation with Yahoo insider Charles
Robinson and then Damien Harris who just retired from the league,
and I was asking eighteen game schedule, what's the thing
the players would want the most to make that happen?
And Damien, without hesitation, said grass fields across the league

(01:51:56):
would be number one. And he said number two would
be the minute to see and ends let us get away,
And he said what players need is time for recovery.
He said, ultimately, what most players are actually asking for
right now is when the season ends, we can't be
at the facility again until July and then do a
ramp up July and August. That gets our bodies ready.
And he's like, but the constant need to do that,

(01:52:17):
and that's at the NFL level. So you start stacking
on just week after weekend. And you know this as
a dad, like I hear this when you talk about
your kids, like they're constantly, constantly active, right, But man,
you've got to find a way to get a rest
on some of these guys bodies. I wonder what the
NBA is going to look like in ten years, just
based on the wear and tear that's happening today of

(01:52:37):
ninth graders that are accelerating. And frankly, I wonder if
it's same about the NFL. Like if you've got a
kid out there that's making money in Dorset, if you've
got a six figure high school athlete playing football, at
some point his body can only take so much.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
Well, this is what's going on to in youth football.
There's the spring leagues, so kids are playing in the
fall and then they're coming back and playing in the spring. God,
and there's a lot of pressure on parents to have
their kids play spring ball in the youth circles.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
Now, I won't do that. I think that's too much,
I you know, I mean, you know you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Want to, like I tell the kids you want to
mess around with flag or whatever you want, that's fine,
but you know, they play football and they don't need
to play in the spring. Like, I mean, that's just
asking for too much. I just think it's asking for
two months. I think you learn it and by the way,
you know, the high school level will take care of
that piece of it, you know, Like that's you can't

(01:53:41):
be playing spring football.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
I don't think you should be doing both fall and spring.

Speaker 4 (01:53:47):
Yeah, there's no way I would. Let I don't have kids,
There's no way I would do it. Like, you've just
got to You've got to respect the body and the
recovery process too.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
No, it's a great point you bring up, Brotherly. It
really is, by the way, Southside, Chuck says, no mint, Julips.
It's cigars and bourbon.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
All right, Kentucky. Bourbon's just neat around the rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Yes, okay, Yeah, do you like it neat or or
I'm a rocks guy?

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Yeah, No, it's got to be cold.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
I like him. Yeah, I'm the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
People go, that's heresy, but I like the rock.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
Splash Coke zero in there. I'm not mad at it
and just missed me with all your people, Like you
can't do that to whiskey. Yes again, all right, Like, look,
I'm drinking it to get drunk. Don't tell me how
I can get drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
It's harry. If you put rocks in it, let a
load coke zero still get you. I'd rather we'll call
right back where the fell is hanging right here. Fox
Sports Radio. Yeah, see this is I could see the
wiggle now and I'm three thousand miles away.

Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
I'm playing the air base. But it's particularly high because
the higher up a bass player holds the bass, Like
if a guy holds it really low, like an eighties
rock eye, he probably sucks if he holds it up,
like if the base is basically covering his nipples and
he's making a weird base while he's going like like
that stank face. That's a good bass player. That's how
you know. The higher up it is, the better they are.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
Yes, yes, what's he doing with money?

Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
Mark all the above?

Speaker 8 (01:55:11):
Yeah, more air base base, the fake base way up
by his chin, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:55:16):
And a little bit of stank face, like it's a
little bit of the like Beaker if you know, like
anybody remembers him up. It's like like it's that thing
like the mouth has to point down where you're like, oh,
I smell something. It's like, oh, did somebody fluffy in
the room, Like it's yeah, you got that what's going on? Thing?
Like nostrils flairing and you're like, oh yeah, I head back.
Oh yeah that's good. I got the groove today.

Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
Yeah, you got the groove. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
I love it air Base. Nobody ever plays their fiddle.
I don't know why, I do know. I'm sorry, look
like a dumb ass.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
The greatest uh my man's outside. Chuck goes rocky for
God's sake in Kentucky. That'll get you hurt. He's not
only go neat, you don't ruin the elixir.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
You and FITZI, oh God.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
Southside Chuck is right, and I get all that. But
here's the thing, Like, you know what you got kids, right,
You're like when your kids are pretending, like or when
the first time you eat, like let's say the first
time maybe your wife cooks for you and it's not
the best, and you take a bite of me, You're like, oh,
it's so good. That's me When I have to drink whiskey, Neat,
I just take that sip and then I make the
face like somebody just like absolutely offended my mom. And

(01:56:40):
I'm like, and then you just power through it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
But I don't know, Like it's funny like the dark liquor, right,
if you were a Scotch or bourbon guy, you know,
like the palette that sophisticated.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
I don't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
No, this sophisticated palate like I got buddies of mine.
It's like, you know, I tell you about two cheese.
One of those guys like he would farewell to Derby,
Like he's telling you once to go down there. He'll
be great because you know he does his bourbon neat
and he can just you know, my cousin can tell
you to chapter and verse the difference between the Irish
whiskey and uh, you know, Scotch and bourbon, and you know,

(01:57:23):
like he'll do that, and I, you know, I don't
have that, so I feel you on on on where
you try to, but you just have to.

Speaker 3 (01:57:31):
Have a palette for it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:33):
There's a company, uh, Scatterbrain that compete with Screwball, Like
Screwball is a famous like peanut butter tasting whisky or
whatever they right, But Scatterbury makes one that's cherry vanilla
tastes like doctor pepper. I can drink that, but that's
because it has all sorts of stuff and it makes
it taste.

Speaker 9 (01:57:46):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
Here's a question like which is not the purity of
the What about like an old fashion?

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
Because the basic white girl and me still loves an
old fashion, like like I will drink an old fashion
all day in an espresso martini all day. Right, So
like an old fashion. That's that's you know, that's just
muddled things in it? Does it? Can I muddle?

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
Well, that's an old fashion? Is a classic cocktail?

Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
Chuck approve of that? Like is that is?

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
Like ask And I'm a gin man, So I'm a
clear I like gin. I like gin and tonic and
who hurt you?

Speaker 4 (01:58:17):
Like what genic is so bitter?

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
Like you know my guy do genatonic muddled lemon?

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Like like I'm a sour guy, right, so I'm all
about the gin and I love Jim martiniz with the
olives all yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:58:33):
Yeah, no, d D none of the above for me,
Like if we're taking the s A T's, I chose
to none of the above option for this, Like look,
I can go with clear liquor like Tito's and soda
with a line like that, that's me being healthy. But
if you really want, like if you want to make
me make me dance, then like I'd much rather have
I don't know, like a vanilla rum and diet for example.

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
Okay, so you that's what you like if you like
want to taste like you say you want to taste
like you that's your go.

Speaker 4 (01:59:01):
To yea vanilla or cherry voda or rum either one.
And diet coke tastes like a di you know, it
tastes like a cherry cherry coke. Like I'm all in
on that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
Oh yeah, okay, I got you. I'm like, yeah, I'm
like I love genitalic.

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
Like now, strangely, if we're talking shots, I happen to
really like black liquorice, So I'm all in on Yeggert, Like,
just give me a shot at yegger really yeah? No,
like sam, yeah, yeah, I love sample. I love sample.
I'm realizing that I am a basic sorority girl. That's
what I'm realizing here. Like it's like like give me,
give me Jaeger Sambuca and then you know, or like

(01:59:37):
a flaming doctor Pepper where you take the one eighty
one uh in the little shot and you light it
on fire and you drop it in the beer and
then you slam it tastes like a doctor Pepper. Oh yeah,
come on now, I'm good with those. Come on now,
but actually ask me to drink like a nice I
p a no thank you, Like just just no hard
pass for me.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
Why you want eat two beers.

Speaker 4 (01:59:59):
Not really a beer guy.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:00:00):
Really yeah, I mean I am as, I am as
high maintenance as possible on this drink at list. I
realized that now, Oh my.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
God, I love beer, but like I'm off it because
I'm watching, you know, gonna watch the calories.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
So like when I could go, you know, I love it.
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
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Speaker 3 (02:01:31):
All right, so let's get back to what we've been
doing because you just joined us.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
Obviously, I've been going through the first two days of
the draft, which has been incredible, from Penix to the
Giants to the Lions. Dude, the Lions. I love what
the Lions did, the hometown Lions and Detroit has showed

(02:01:57):
so great, and then the Lions come back, trade up
and get needed help in the secondary.

Speaker 4 (02:02:05):
Yeah, I think Look, Terry and Arnold, this was one
of those things in which corner did you prefer, right,
Quinna Mitchell or Terry and Arnold. A lot of people
had him sort of one A one B. The one
knock for some people on Quinya Mitchell is that his
hands are basically big old stones. I can't catch Anything's
kind of the knock on him. But we'll see he's
sticky and coverage, so obviously that helps him. Terry and
Arnold comes out of Pama. He really became this resurgent

(02:02:29):
guy this year too, because coming into the season most right. Yeah,
but Terryan absolutely early in the season got picked on
until everybody figured out that was a stupid thing to do.
So I think that's a really good pick. And by
the way, in the second round, Ennis Rakestraw Missouri corner,
another guy that I really like. So, you know, Detroit,
much like Philadelphia, Detroit came in with the glaring need,

(02:02:50):
but it happened to also be that those glaring needs
were good picks at the time, like Terry and Arnold
at twenty four as somebody that like people thought he
might go as high as on somebody, so like you know,
and and as Rayshaw all the way at the end
of the second is somebody that I thought most of
us thought will be gone early in the second. So
value picks that also phil needs, like best player available

(02:03:12):
that happens to be in need is like winning the
life lottery in the draft, I dude.

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
And it's funny because that's what's going on with the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
We'll get to them later on, but having them to
attack the secondary, they love Cooper Degene and you get
a true slot corner you know, could play safety along
with Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (02:03:33):
I mean, you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:03:34):
Funny Saban said that Mitchell was the top of his
list when it came to the portal. They was their
number one target, and then he never got into the portal.
He was loyal to Toledo, which was loyal to him,
which I thought was very cool.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
I thought that was good for the kid.

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
Yeah, by the way, loyal to Toledo because nobody else
offered him like and the fact is once he got
there and then everybody else started flocking to him. I
think it is pretty cool that it's like, you know what,
I'm gonna stick with the people that got me to
where I am for a reason. And by the way,
the Senior Bowl, which I think people pay a little
attention to, Quinna Mitchell is a great example of why

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you should pay more attention to it because he made
himself some money for sure going into there, and because
the question was, well, what about the level of competition,
and then he went in and just absolutely smoked everybody
at the Senior Pool. So I think good for him
on taking advantage of the opportunities.

Speaker 3 (02:04:27):
All right, well, let's kind of roll through.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
We have the Big Brain coming up as well in
a little bit, but let's roll through some of the teachers.
We talked about the Bears obviously the home run with
you know, Caleb and then Rome. Let's go to Bengals
Marius Men's. They take the hulking defensive tackle from Georgia,

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so you go him. You also get Chris Jenkins from Michigan,
so they go to Michigan at Georgia and gain a
pair of tackles.

Speaker 3 (02:04:58):
I mean, that's how they were built.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
When Cincinnati was playing great football on the defensive side,
it came from up front and they attacked that piece
of offensive Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
But also Jermaine Burton in the third round. Yeah, I
mean Jermaine Burton for them, I think they're looking at
it and saying, hey, let's see if we can find
T two, right, can we can? We find so many
different receivers, but like T Higgins is not likely going
to be a Bengal next year, so can they find
a replacement. I thought this was a really solid draft
for the Bengals for sure. I liked it a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:05:29):
Yeah I did too. The Browns didn't have a first
round pick.

Speaker 2 (02:05:33):
They start with Michael Hall, defensive tackle from Ohio State,
and they get Zack Zenter, the guard from Michigan.

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
So they attack the line with their first two picks.

Speaker 4 (02:05:45):
Yeah, but any team that does that in this year's draft,
where it happens to be, oh guess what historic level
of offensive line play expected out of this year's draft,
and a really solid defensive line play. Like anybody, if
you if your team came away with a bunch of
fat guys and you know nothing, smile like that.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
Just be happy with that. Yeah, and that's what listen,
that's what the Cowboys. The Cowboys fortified their line with
Dighton who I like, and Hooper BB is good value
where they get him in the third round. I think
that's Cooper that's really strong value to help that offensive line.

Speaker 4 (02:06:21):
I'm a little surprised they didn't address running back and
I thought they might at some point get a wide receiver.
Here's the only thing that I would say about the
Cowboys today, because I keep saying, you know, the identity.
The way that the Cowboys are telling you that they
intend to win football games this year because there's no
way they can trust the running back room they have,
is to essentially ask Dak to have a monster season,
which is fine, but if you're asking Dak to have

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a monster season. You better understand that that means monster
season for Dak, monster season for CD. And you still
don't have those contract situations worked out. Like it feels
like the only path of success for the Cowboys is
if Dak absolutely goes off, and when he absolutely goes off,
it is in his contract. He cannot be traded, he
cannot be franchised, Like somebody's going to give Dak fifty

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five or sixty million dollars in a year, Like that's real.
Somebody's going to do that, especially next year's draft quarterback
class is no good. So if you're my beloved Raiders
and you're sitting around and you're like, man, I got
all these offensive weapons, I really like here, we still
can't find a quarterback. Turns out Aidan O'Connell didn't really
develop Gardner Minshew's not the answer. You're telling me that
Mark Davis won't in order to try and compete with

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the Chiefs, give Dak fifty five million to come in there,
like that's going to happen. So I think it's interesting
the only way that Cowboys can be successful will price
them out of the thing that they need to continue
to be successful. Yeah, I get it right.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
I know, I listen, I like attacking the offensive line.
I guess the pick that I was a little surprised
that was Niland, who's the edged kid off of Western Michigan,
who I know people like. But you know, at that
point is where I thought you would attack the skill spot.

Speaker 4 (02:07:54):
Yeah. I think they could have done it there or
even late in the third because remember they had the
twenty fourth pick in the third and I kept saying,
man at some point of running back and at some
point another wide receiver to help them, and they've done
none of that. So they're they're they're trusting, they're going
to work out the money. I think they must know
something we don't know about these contracts.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
Yeah. Uh, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:08:14):
The Packers who have are loaded for bear when it
comes to all the weapons they go tackle with. Jordan Morgan,
the tackle from Arizona, is more of a pure tackle.
Uh Eddrian Cooper, U linebacker out of a and m
Javon Bullard of the safety out of Georgia. Uh Marshawn

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Lloyd the running back from USC and Toron Hopper, a
linebacker out of Missouri. A lot of value there and
uh some good spots because you're you're going and you're
attack in the middle of your defense. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:08:52):
And by the way, Edrin Cooper a prospect, and I
don't want to be very sensitive here to what has
happened in life, like a TV accident, his girlfriend passed away,
not knowing what that impact would be for him and
everything that's coming from that. I think it's a little
bit of why Eddrian Cooper was even still there on
the board, Like he would have been a much higher pick.
But I think teams look at this and just you

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just don't the kids going. There's real life stuff he's
going through in there that's far bigger than football. So
that impacted his value a little bit. But I'm with you.
I think it was a really solid draft.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
Yeah, they don't how the draft green back.

Speaker 4 (02:09:27):
Yeah, well, now that they seem to like because of
the last half of last season, it changes the whole
concept of this, right, Like Jordan Love had a handful
of great games and now we're like, yeah, they are set,
Like it is interesting. There's a lot of presumption on
Jordan Love that the last last half of the season
is the sustainable.

Speaker 2 (02:09:45):
I'm raising my hand, dude, I believe in him. Yeah,
me too, me too, raising my hand. I love their
I love their young receivers. I mean, you just have
a million of them, man, between the receivers and t
that's mike much.

Speaker 4 (02:09:57):
I mean the team that had no weapons actually does
have weapons because even though they didn't use first round
assets on some of them, they were able to develop them.

Speaker 2 (02:10:04):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
I know. Yeah, good point, baby.

Speaker 2 (02:10:10):
The Texans they get Kabari Lassiter, who is the corner
out of Georgia at third at at.

Speaker 4 (02:10:24):
At thirty, right, yeah, I think it was around there
was the second yeah, second round. Yeah, so it's the.

Speaker 2 (02:10:29):
Pick of the second round. But the guy that I
like the best, right, I love Blake Fisher. I thought
that was incredible value to get him at the end
of the second round.

Speaker 4 (02:10:40):
Yeah, not one hundred and somebody that a lot of
pro guys feel I could play either tackle spot, right,
so there's some versatility to that, and somebody that you know,
the fact is, I think if Joe Walt hadn't been
taking so much shine, he'd have gotten a lot more
of it. So but I think that's a great pick
by them, And just to reminder of how much the
world can change in one year, because I said this

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when we went into the draft, like benefit of the
doubt belongs to teams that have absolutely crushed it. This
regime of this Texans team is coming off a historic
draft last year that was absolutely epic for them, so
that like at this point they could have drafted you
to be there starting running back at a back. Yet
I believe in it. They are the Texans and they
get all of that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:22):
Yep, yep, I listen. I love Leaatu Latu and getting him.
I think that's a great pick by the colts Man.
He broke the string of all the offensive players.

Speaker 3 (02:11:36):
He is a beast six ' five, two sixty monster
and he just comes at you. I love that pick.

Speaker 4 (02:11:46):
There were some teams that took him completely off the
board because of the medical neckage. So I think this
is all about your doctors. You gotta trust your doctors.
If your doctors analyzed him and said, yes, we are
comfortable with it. But some teams think that he's one
injury away from you know, having less impact. Some teams
think that he could have a shorter career. Some teams
thought that they might have to load manage him. If

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you take all of that into the equation, that's the
only reason that I don't think people were absolutely doing
cartwheels for this, because you're right, first defensive player off
the board all the way at fifteen and by the way,
he could come in and immediately be a sack monster
for them, So.

Speaker 3 (02:12:21):
Oh my god, he can be diculous. I mean, if
he's healthy, he's a game wrecker.

Speaker 4 (02:12:30):
And they also got Adi Mitchell in the second round,
a wide receiver that wasn't supposed to be available that late,
and was angry, angry, like at his introductory press conference
when they asked how it felt, he said, like, I
don't even know how to say this and not get
in trouble. I'm so angry right now. Like he made
it clear that he is walking into the league with

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a chip on his shoulder. And you know, obviously, if
you're Anthony Richardson, you're looking around, say, man, a dynamic
wide receiver right there, that's good for him.

Speaker 3 (02:13:01):
To go with Michael Pittman.

Speaker 2 (02:13:02):
I like it. Uh hey, speaking of my receivers, I'm
a huge Brian Thomas fan.

Speaker 3 (02:13:09):
I love Brian Thomas. I think he's got great, great value.

Speaker 2 (02:13:13):
I know Neighbors was awesome, and but I think people
sleep on Thomas, and I think Jaguars got themselves a
stud man. Trevor Lawrence got another weapon, then you needed
to replace Ridley.

Speaker 3 (02:13:25):
So I love that.

Speaker 4 (02:13:26):
Yeah, and they need to get a weapon for Trevor
Lawrence because this is a proving. They got to make
a decision on Trevor Lawrence, right, And so I was stunned.

Speaker 2 (02:13:33):
Brian saying that, Yeah, you got to make a decision
on Trevor Lawrence like what I thought he was as
a Locke as Andrew luck.

Speaker 3 (02:13:44):
Still, I still think that things mismanaged. I can't believe
that that kid.

Speaker 2 (02:13:48):
Is what he is.

Speaker 3 (02:13:50):
He's gotta be better.

Speaker 4 (02:13:51):
The Jacks have failed him. But now they got to
get weapons for him, and that that's crazy. But I
was stunned. Brian Thomas was that's a great pick for them.

Speaker 3 (02:13:59):
Yeah, yeah, stunned. Kansas City somehow fleeces Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (02:14:06):
Not only do they fleece Buffalo, but like they didn't
do anything in the second round of the then sit
there and let Kingsley Sue Amata get to them, who's
like just a beefy boy, like I mean, I know,
he's a huge human people.

Speaker 3 (02:14:18):
And he's happy too, because you know, Andy's a b
YU guy too.

Speaker 4 (02:14:20):
I mean, here's the thing, like, okay, what killed them
at one point? Like communication on the offensive line was
a real issue a couple of times. Right, So they
go on and just get themselves another big offensive lineman,
and they get the fast guy that they really wanted,
a wide receiver and man for everyone saying, well, you
know he's fast, but that doesn't mean they'll go back
and watch Texas. Like I said, if you're worthy, was

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open all the time, like he's all the time, Like
he's great. That that was just a great act by them.

Speaker 3 (02:14:47):
I know. I think the only person doesn't like to
pick because it's probably my boy Spags, who wants a corner.

Speaker 4 (02:14:55):
As a Raiders fan, I didn't like to pick at all,
because my god, what do you do when the best
quarterback is played with the best coach and they also
have the best GM, Like where's this?

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
I know it's amazing. Hey, so let's talk about harms.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
Let's talk about West Coast harms, not East Coast harps.
So Jim's first draft as the presider over the Chargers,
he gets his man, Joe Alt. We always thought, like listen,
you know he's going to go that way, he's a
perfect fit. He's a great like his attitude. That's a

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great family, the Alt family, a family of great athletes.
He's he's like the perfect kind of hardball guy to
like to go on that offensive line and set the tone.

Speaker 3 (02:15:45):
And then Ladd mcconkeye and then he gets his junior Coulson.
Oh my god, it's that's a that's a great way
to start the charge because I'm looking forward to the Chargers.

Speaker 4 (02:15:56):
I mean, think about it too, Like Harbaugh has been
really honest about what he wanted, and the all the
time people are like, oh no, he's lying. He's lying,
Like Harmo's pretty good, is just telling you what he thinks.
Like he gets three guys from three big programs that
are all three big leaders, that are all three guys
that you just know in the locker room, know what
it takes. He gets a guy in Colston out of
Michigan that he knows better than anybody, right, So him

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taking Colson means something to me, and lab McConkie's somebody
that they trade up for that.

Speaker 9 (02:16:22):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:16:23):
Look, the production was through the roof already, but just
imagine if brock Powers hadn't been eating up a lot
of that production where mcconkee's numbers could have been. Like,
I think they get a great wide receiver especially that
value that spot, and they get the best offensive lineman
in the draft. So like this, this is a home
run draft for the Chargers. Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (02:16:42):
How about the It's amazing too the Rams who finally
have a first round pick and they get a gift
just falls to them. I mean, you get Jagged Verse
at nineteen.

Speaker 4 (02:16:55):
What well, and not for nothing, Aaron Donald retire, which
Lesned told one of our guys that they acknowledged the
day he retired. It meant they were going to have
to rework the way they plan their defense because they
no longer have sort of the masker, right like, and
so what do they do. They go out and get
Jared Verse, they get Braden Fisks, two guys that they
obviously were scouting at the same time, and then they

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get Kitchens in the third round out of Miami's safety.
They attack the defense from multiple levels, acknowledging, hey, we
don't have Aaron Donald, so now we got to do
things a little bit differently. They get better athleticism. I
think their defense is in a spot where it could
be really freaking good, and Blake Koram comes into a
situation where he won't be asked to do the majority
of the lifting.

Speaker 2 (02:17:37):
He can be the other guy. Like, this is a perfect,
complimentary bet, absolutely great draft for them. Eric de Kyron, Yeah, no,
I agree. I rams just get it right. So how
do you feel about the Raiders? Like, how do you
feel about your squad? We touched earlier, but I think
we need to repeat and talk about this. Brock Bowers

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such a weapon. That's player on the board where they
were drafting FITSI.

Speaker 4 (02:18:03):
Yeah, I mean brock Bowers is one of those guys
that now you go two tight end sets. I think
they're gonna do a lot of the you know, era
of New England. So you're gonna have Jacoby Myers, You're
gonna have Davante obviously, but then you have Michael Mayer
and you have Brock Bowers. You're gonna be able to
do a lot of different things. And Brock, by the way,
can also go to the slot like this is just
one of those moments where quarterback wasn't there and so

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now all of a sudden, clearly the best player on
their board. And from what I was told wasn't even
close for where they had brock on their board versus
everyone else who cares about need, Like, how many years
in a row are you gonna have a team that
you're trying to put a band aid on before you
finally say, hey, I want to get better talent up
and down the board. They did that too in the
second round Jackson Powers Johnson the center that they're gonna
move to guard from Oregon.

Speaker 3 (02:18:46):
By the way, I was surprised he last that long
me too, Like the minute he was two center in
the league.

Speaker 4 (02:18:51):
Yeah, he's a day one starter. So this team gets
two players right now that are day one starters and
also are going to develop into the core of the future.
I mean, look, del Marglay is a little bit of
a reach. Who knows at that point. But if you're
taking a reach on an offensive tackle in the third round,
I'm okay with that. So I think it's been a
great draft so far for Telesco in a real sense

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of the Raiders are telling you, whether fans want to
hear this or not, that they understand they need to
rework the whole roster. This is a patient approach. They
didn't just say we need a corner right now to compete.
That would have been the easy thing to do. They
instead said, no, we just need talent everywhere totally.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
All right, we have to take quick to We'll come back.
The Big Brain will join us to take a look
at the weekend. We'll go over some NBA, NHL with
the Brain, take a look at the weekend from a
betting standpoint, and we'll get back to the draft where
the fellas. He's Jason Fits on Anthony Gargano every week
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (02:19:51):
All right, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (02:19:55):
The Fellas, Jason Fits Anthony guar got a right here
Fox Sports Radio every Saturday. You hang out with us
Saturday mornings, prepya for the sports weekend. Draft Day three.
Today we geek out and of course a plethora of

(02:20:15):
NBA and NHL playoffs. So joining us to break it
all down and to give it some good picks, the
whole thing. Our man, the Big Brain. Brad Feinberg, Good morning, Bradley, Good.

Speaker 9 (02:20:31):
Morning, Anthony. How are you today, my friends?

Speaker 3 (02:20:33):
Good?

Speaker 2 (02:20:34):
It's been an amazing Draft fifteen and I going through it.
What a wild draft it's been. I know you have
some big futures and you're riding on this stuff.

Speaker 9 (02:20:45):
Well, you know, it's funny. I did hit. I actually
didn't get nearly as much on the draft as I
had in the past. Anthony Alam barras Tom that the
only two things I said, they both did win one
you're gonna laugh at I told you I took.

Speaker 3 (02:21:00):
Burn.

Speaker 9 (02:21:02):
I did Cale Williams two hundred and one to be
the first pick because I was just, you know, I
was betting he wouldn't, something wouldn't happen to the guy
of a catastrophic event in like a few hours, and
it didn't. And I took let two, the guy the
defensive player, the first played defensive player in the draft.
It sicks for one, which ended up hitting because he

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went fifteen overall. So that was That was basically the
extent I didn't, you know, I just doing so much
in the other stuff. I didn't get as much into
the draft as I have in the past. But I'm
really very close to taking Joe All to come in
the top five, and that was plus four fifty and
I'm kicking myself. I didn't do that because I really
thought the Chargers were going to take him.

Speaker 4 (02:21:44):
Is there anything that typically happens from the draft that
makes you see or makes Vegas see, the number overall
for a team, A team win total changed drastically in
the way that it impacts you.

Speaker 9 (02:21:55):
Well, last year, the Eagles, if you remember, I'm sure
Anthony does, their win total after the draft, they got
Jalen Carter at nine. People weren't expecting Jaalen Carter to
last that long, and Eagles win total actually went from
like ten and a half to a legit eleven and
a half moved up a full game. My prediction is

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and I got on the train and I took eight
and a half over minus one ten. I think the Bears.
I think the Bears because I think when people are
going to realize, Okay, now, if you look at the Bears,
you know they had a horrible quarterback and they still
were like a feisty, decent team last year. Now you
give them a good quarterback and look at the receiver room.

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I mean, I think it's going to be a pretty
quiet list. I say, how many receiver rooms are better
than the Bears, and I really can't think of many.
And they have a very good tight end as well.
And again I think they've solid running back for I
think their offense is actually going to be legitimately good,
and I think are you able to get eight and
a half over ten? I'm predicting that goes to at

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least nine.

Speaker 3 (02:23:02):
Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:23:05):
Let's go to the NBA because we have not talked
a lot of NBA fifty and I've been crazy with
the draft. So let's go today and then we'll go tomorrow.
So today's slate, So let me just set it up
for you. Magic Cleveland, Orlando looking to tie the series,
New Orleans and the Pelicans. I don't know, I mean, okay, see,

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it's just so much better No Zion Boston, which got
snookered by Miami in Game two because the heat rained
down threes now must go and the series is tied,
and of course Denver looking to put the Lakers out
of their misery. So how do you make sense of
the today's card?

Speaker 9 (02:23:46):
Yeah, look, I do think I think Cleveland will have me,
will win still in five games. I know they absolutely
laid an egg of all eggs, you know, in game
three give Orlando it was our first playoff game, probably
at home, and I don't even know how long, for
probably quite a bit of time and credit to them.

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They played really well. I think we'll get a more
inspired effort from Cleveland. I think Cleveland win's outright.

Speaker 3 (02:24:14):
I do.

Speaker 9 (02:24:15):
I like them as a underdog to win the Boston game.
I mean, look, you know that's funny. I'm in the
car with a friend right now where he was talking
about sports is widely regarded as the best coach in
the NBA, and he's like, I don't think he's crazy underrated.
That's what he's say. And you know what, he makes
sense that this Boston team with what the talent they

(02:24:37):
have with me and then you look at my head,
me just just went out. Butler still beat the team
by double digits. Very impressive. That being said, you know
this is you know, Boston or pass for me, I
just think the talent differential between these two teams is
as stark and I don't think they're going to make
twenty three threes again. Boston defense is brutal. In game two,

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say we get improved Boston effort here lean Boston Lakers game.
I mean, look, as you said as me, they've lost
how many how many games they lost this team eleven.

Speaker 6 (02:25:08):
In a row.

Speaker 9 (02:25:09):
To this Denver game, I mean this beating the Lakers again.
I'm again, I don't need I don't need to step
in front of that train. I only can lean towards
the towards the Nuggets to get to sweep. And Okay, see,
as you said for me, that's an easy side for me,
and that without Zion again, there's no next man off.
That's a fallacy. When you take away your best player,

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it's going to hurt your team. Look at the Sixers
when Joel beat went down, they lost every game. When
Zion goes down, this is not the same team. I'll
take the Pelicans to lose and I like Thunder to win.

Speaker 4 (02:25:40):
When there's a series that's just as out of whack
as something like the Nuggets, where do you find opportunity
to win? Like what makes sense from a betting perspective.

Speaker 9 (02:25:50):
Well, I mean again, there gets you listen, there gets
to be a points to see where you're like, god,
I mean just it's it's like that's the line makers
maybe just are not factoring and enough that it's is
there's a matchup issue here or you know where they
just can't and maybe there's a mental huff this thing
even though they have Lebron where they just can't get
over that hump and beat this team. So I mean

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to me again, maybe if they especially live betting, if
they get down, I mean, there's a very good chance.
I hate to use the word quit, but you know,
I would really be looking at bet Denver if Denver's
winning live, and you know, I just don't know if
they have that fight just to fly all the way
back to Denver just to come right back to La

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knowing they're gonna lose in fives.

Speaker 3 (02:26:34):
So any props because you're the king of props? Yeah today, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:26:39):
I had another winning day yesterday, about two hundred and
fifty units almost between all my picks since I started
this site about eight months ago, betting one unit per
game on bradsdestpets dot com. Look, I'll go to the
Boston game. I'm gonna give you a few. I like
Jalen Brown under six and a half rebounds, he averages

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five and a half. Just think it's one too high.
And I like Jalon found over two and a half assists.
He's gone over that total about seventy one percent of
the time, guys, and he won over under his last game,
So okay, who cares he went under his last game,
but he averages three point six assists. You're making it
two point five. That's just too low of the number
in my opinion. Lakers game actually do like D'Angelo Russell,

(02:27:24):
who had a horrible, horrible game three, one of those,
probably his worst game of the year, but he averages
six and hamphasis. They made his over under four and
a half. They just they're digging him too much for
one bad game the game before he hits six or seven.
I believe I'm gonna take D'angela Russell over four and
a half assist. You heard me mentioned this bet twenty

(02:27:44):
six thousand times. It just keeps winning every time. They
keep making it two and a half. Anthony Davis over
two and a half assists, The guy averages a stone
cold he wants every time. My record in this bet
is fictitiously great, and they just keep making it two
and a half. And you want to get me that
kind of charity, I'm gonna take it, and I'll give
you one more in the in the Orlando game, guys,

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I like Jalen sucks under fourteen and a half points, Yeah,
wages twelve and a half. Again, these playoff games are
lower scoring. On top of it, I would have made
that close to eleven and a half. I think fourteen
and a half SI gifts give me Jalen Suggs under.

Speaker 4 (02:28:18):
Have you seen anything yet in the playoffs that makes
you change the way you're approaching any of these teams?

Speaker 9 (02:28:24):
You know, I'll say this in the West and I
look and Anthony could tell you my biggest Well, I
bet two series pretty big and one I'm probably gonna
lose with silly. But the other one I bet very
big was Minnesota. And I had a big bet on
Minnesota to beat Phoenix. And I didn't understand how on
God's are Minnesota was an underdog the Phoenix. I didn't

(02:28:47):
understand it for the life of him. I made Phoenix
a big underdog in that series, and Minnesota, I'm like,
maybe I'm just missing something. Maybe I'm overrating this team.
If there's a team that's going to beat Denver, if
there's a team, guys that's gonna beat Denver, I think
it may be Minnesota. I will go and say I
think they have the best team, best chance in the

(02:29:08):
West of beating the Mighty Nuggets. And I think this
team is People don't know how good they are, like
with their defense and everything that they bring to the table,
I would say watch out from Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (02:29:24):
Yeah, I agree with that. They're tough. Gobert, You're tough man.

Speaker 9 (02:29:29):
You ever know there young teams, They're not a young team.
There a young team at all. Like we're talking about
like it's a it's a bunch of veterans that has Yeah,
I mean if the efforts isn't like thirty eight years old,
but you know he's played like five six years now,
and and Conley and Goberker I've obviously played forever. And yeah,

(02:29:49):
I mean it's like, you know, you have a bunch
of veteran guys to go with some good young players
like Nazre to win the six Man of the Year.
I mean, this is a really good team, and I
don't think people realize just how good they are. And
if you told me this team would even win a title,
I would not be surprised. If you want a future,
a team that's not going to get a ton of value,

(02:30:11):
ton of respect right now, shouldn't say die it's ton
of respect right now? To me, it would be Minnesota.
But again, it's going to be very hard to be Denver.
I understand that, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:30:19):
So you said that you're probably going to lose the
Sixer series, really because I think they win the Barro.

Speaker 9 (02:30:28):
Brad Yeah, I mean, I'll be rooting as hard as
hard can be for Philadelphia. But even if they win
this game, I look the NIXT to me, Anthony, I've
talked about it with you before, when you just give
away one game in the most terrific fashion that we've
seen in the NBA in the last twenty years.

Speaker 3 (02:30:49):
Maybe when you.

Speaker 9 (02:30:50):
Give away a game like that, and then the other game,
Game one, when you should have won, and you give
that game away too, but the game too, loss was
a Hall of Fame loss.

Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (02:31:00):
I I'm hoping they can do it, but the Knicks
are tough, and the Knicks still we're winning at halftime
of that game, and they're not just going to roll
over and die, and I think the Knicks are gonna
win at this point.

Speaker 2 (02:31:11):
I do.

Speaker 9 (02:31:11):
I pray I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:31:13):
I really don't listen.

Speaker 2 (02:31:14):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:31:14):
You're up to one in this series. Yeah, well I
would do. Let me throw this at both of you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:31:21):
If I'm the Sixers, I play everybody else straight up
and I go, because they've been trying to take Brunton
out of the game.

Speaker 3 (02:31:28):
Now Brunson fell and showed up in game three. I
what I do is I play him straight up. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:31:34):
I let Brunz Clad beat me. I mean Clad Jalen,
you know, like he's six he's six' one. But once
you go to score seventy like I want to. I
want to get those those those charts and Davidcenzo's all
those role players that are.

Speaker 3 (02:31:50):
Give me the energy threes. I want to stamp out
those guys.

Speaker 9 (02:31:54):
Yeah, look at me. As we talked about, and I
agree with you. It seems like when you take that
rategy in terms of winning NBA games, it always seems
to be the better strategy when you do that, you know,
but when other everyone seems to get involved, that's when
it's bad for that, you know, bad for you as
a defensive team. It seems to hurt you. And I agree,
if they can do that, let Bruntson get his thirty

(02:32:15):
five and stop everyone else. I like the Sixers chances.
But again, that line I think is right in front
of my computer right now, but I think it's around
five ish and that game I actually Lean New York.
I think it'll be a close game. I hope the
Sixers win as a Sixer fan, but again, I I
don't know. I think it's gonna be hard for the
Sixers to win the series. I hope I'm wrong, but

(02:32:36):
I do think the Knicks are probably going to win.
Not betting it again, I did that Sixers for the series,
started pray to get lucky, but I think it's gonna
be hard for them win three more games.

Speaker 4 (02:32:45):
I just real quick here. I think it's interesting that
if the Sixers winning this thing's too too headed back
to the garden, how much it'll be one side I'll say, Hey,
we won the ugliest game in history. That's why we've
got the advantage in the series. And the other team
will say, yeah, but we found a way that took
away this crazy ending. We have the advantage of the series.
It's just crazy. Yeah, both both sides charge. If he

(02:33:05):
goes back to too.

Speaker 9 (02:33:07):
Yeah, I mean, listen, you make you you're absolutely right.
But if it goes back to too again all the
stuff I said about Nick, I do think the Sixers
are definitely the better team. I mean, I think Knicks
are you know, we talk about like like if Emick
Minnesota think's underrated, it's really good. The Knicks, I don't
think they're really good at all. I think they're very
They they max out with a good coach and effort.

(02:33:29):
But when I watch them, god, they're like watching pain try.
They're really not that good at all.

Speaker 2 (02:33:34):
But you know real quick, because you're up against any
other picks, you have baseball or tomorrow props.

Speaker 3 (02:33:42):
I'll give you. I'll give you.

Speaker 9 (02:33:43):
I'll give you a couple in baseball, all that you run.
Kakuchi of the Toronto's facing a team Anthony and the
Dodgers and FISI that has the second most walks and
make baseball this year. This has been a fifty to
fifty bet traditionally going in there. But the matchup against
the Dog is the second. You know, the team that
draws the second most walks. Give me Kakuchi over one

(02:34:05):
and a half walks, obscure bet. But that's why you
have me on the show to find good your bets.
And then I took George Kirby, Uh he's got almost
a little bit the slow start this year or anything.
I got pinched yesterday. I told you I liked Joe
I know under two and a half runs a lot
of that laughter for all about two and a half pitches.
But Kirby hasn't pitched well yet. But man, I just

(02:34:26):
think the guy's really good. I think he gets his
five and two thirds. I thinks it's over under sixteen
and a half outs. I'm gonna take my chances pitching
in the safecoat he gets it done, give me George
Kirby over sixteen and a half outs.

Speaker 2 (02:34:38):
I thank you, big Brain, we appreciate it. The Big
Bridal Brad Brad's best bets Dot Thanks buddy, always pleasure.
Since you'll be right back, and uh, we'll wrap it
up with a little draft talk next Fellas on Fox.

Speaker 3 (02:34:57):
All right, Fellas.

Speaker 2 (02:35:01):
Rapping one up on a thact Ian and mich Mark
for a fine production of this program.

Speaker 4 (02:35:11):
I failed them today, I really did. I thought I
was going to bring in donuts this morning. I didn't
really account for the fact that, like, I mean, the
show starts at two am here on the West Coast,
so like I didn't really know where to get donuts.
By that point, I was tired, and I like that.
And then we got here. We started talking about desserts
and cake and I realized I should have brought in
an ice cream cake for everybody. Everybody loves an ice
cream cake.

Speaker 2 (02:35:30):
And I didn't.

Speaker 4 (02:35:31):
You know, I did nothing. I just I came in
with no ice cream, no cake, no donuts. I failed
the whole time.

Speaker 2 (02:35:36):
I'm barely a.

Speaker 4 (02:35:37):
Fella today, I'm just a fuck. I'm a fuck.

Speaker 3 (02:35:40):
I don't get a fella.

Speaker 2 (02:35:40):
The craziest is, like you go because when I went,
when I came in, so I was in, I don't know,
this is another year or two ago, right I came.
I was I was down there for something and I
did the show, and I gave them I worded a pizza.
So it like, it's funny how you donuts, I'll go

(02:36:01):
pizza because you got the sweet.

Speaker 4 (02:36:03):
Who wants a pizza two in the morning didn't go donuts?
He just would have Yeah, and that is Look, Look.

Speaker 3 (02:36:10):
There's who goes pizza.

Speaker 2 (02:36:14):
Look what a pizza?

Speaker 4 (02:36:16):
It's five fifty in the morning on the West Coast.
You don't eat pizza five fifty in the morning unless
you're still you know, maybe it was still a little
little a little messed up from last night.

Speaker 2 (02:36:27):
Like I'm just like maybe you're like your eyes oh,
but no, but think about it, right, Like at two
am you could always go pizza.

Speaker 3 (02:36:35):
You never wanted two A pizza.

Speaker 4 (02:36:37):
They have never ordered a two am pizza unless I
had the munchies. If I'm to have the two am pizza,
I better have a donut right there, because we're at
that point. If I'm eating two A and pizza. Now
I'm counterbalancing where I'm going, like sweet salt, sweet salt,
sweet salt, because the munchies had won.

Speaker 3 (02:36:52):
Have you Ian you sound like a two am pizza guy?

Speaker 4 (02:36:57):
Yeah, I mean I have, but it's been a while.
I'll admit I say what you do on the rag.
But you know it's definitely one of life's pleasures.

Speaker 3 (02:37:06):
Yeah right, I mean you know, Mighty Mark, you've had
the two am peacha, haven't you?

Speaker 4 (02:37:11):
Two am pizza? Like chocolate? Bring it okay? But also
like we're in LA, brought up bring pizza anyway, Like
the other side is we're in LA. Like what am
I gonna get? Like broccoli pizza out here? Like the
pizza out here is trash, Like the pizza in Los
Angeles is subjectively pad like they try to put healthy
ingredients on it. It's like y'all just admit it, like

(02:37:32):
eat the pizza, get fat for a day, Like just
just stop like try to put things on pizza that
don't belong on pizza. The La food scenes I have
some issues with, Yeah, and I would tell LA fans
to not get fired up about them. But there's only
like four of them in there all, you know. I'm
just saying, like, La La is an.

Speaker 3 (02:37:50):
Interesting place, all right, what do we expect from?

Speaker 2 (02:37:57):
By the way, I can't get enough of only financial fashana,
His mom boxing out.

Speaker 3 (02:38:04):
His girlfriend is the greatest. It's the It's the greatest.

Speaker 2 (02:38:09):
And then like watching I went back to watching Isaiah
Wilson from a few years ago when his mother ripping
the girl, like yeah, like forcibly getting her out.

Speaker 3 (02:38:20):
I mean, it's it is classic.

Speaker 2 (02:38:22):
We have learned that the pecking order on the momentous
day in a young man's life, like the NFL draft,
it's mom, dad, brother or sister, then the girlfriend. And
even then, like you said, Fitzie, the girlfriends really should

(02:38:45):
be the after party.

Speaker 4 (02:38:46):
Yeah, and meet the girlfriend somewhere for dinner later on
later on. Now, if she's the if she's the fiance
or the wife, take care of it. That's fine if
she's just girlfriend. No, like she doesn't need to be
in the shot. Like she's in the shot and telling
you that's gonna be problems. It's either gonna be harper
for the rest of your life or your future wife's
gonna see that every time and you're gonna have to
rejustify an argument you didn't even know you were getting

(02:39:06):
then over the fact that somebody before you met your
wife is sitting there on the couch next to you.

Speaker 3 (02:39:10):
I'm just saying, yeah, you don't. You don't need that headache.

Speaker 2 (02:39:13):
No, not as something as momentous as you being selected
to the you know, to the in the draft.

Speaker 4 (02:39:23):
Yeah, like take take your take your girl out later
to surprise or take her to the best inner she's
ever been to in the world. Like that's like, have
a have a romantical one on one moment to celebrate
it all. That's the right way to do it.

Speaker 3 (02:39:36):
Who's your h who's your favorite pick today?

Speaker 4 (02:39:39):
I don't know about favorite pick, but I'll say this,
I think the Spencer Rattler thing is interesting because look,
he was the top ranked quarterback coming into college and
it didn't go right. And I don't know anybody that
likes the kid that's ever been around him. But if
he goes to the right spot, I wonder if somebody's
going to see the tools and wonder for a couple
of years they can develop somebody.

Speaker 3 (02:39:57):
Yeah, it'd be interesting. Jeremiah Trotter Juniors.

Speaker 4 (02:40:00):
Oh man, I mean the family lineage on that one.

Speaker 3 (02:40:02):
Alone, right, Yeah, exactly what do you got on stap
for today?

Speaker 4 (02:40:06):
By the way, not for nothing. I'm wearing my Vegas
Golden Night sooty because let's acknowledge Stanley Cup up to
nothing over Dallas, Vegas.

Speaker 2 (02:40:14):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (02:40:15):
Listen, everybody, have a great week. We love you guys.
Fellas around

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