Alex Curry & Carmen Vitali talk NBA Playoffs, Derek Carr Retirement, Bill Belichick Drama, & So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with
Carmen Vitale. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with
Carme and me.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
We are back.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
We are.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's been a couple of weeks, just in time for
Round two of the NBA Playoffs. We'll dive into the
big stories and shocks out of the East and West
in just a moment. Boston right now at MSG trying
not to go down three games to the next currently
leading twenty four or twelve. So this is a big
This is going to be a big swing game, like

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for both teams. Like Nicks need this if they want
to still believe. I think that they have a chance
to go up three. Boston needs us to get back
in it. It's yeah, big difference two to one or
three to zero in a series.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
We'll dive into that in just a second.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Also in the NFL, congrats on a great career Derek
Carr announcing his retirement this morning. We got some new
faces and new places. We'll dive in to all that
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(01:11):
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Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and iHeartRadio app. Now,
we've got a great show for you guys today. We've
got NBA insider Mark Medina joining us in about thirty
minutes to break down these NBA playoffs. We had the
host of NFL and Fox Podcast, Dave Hellman in hour two.
He was a Cowboys insider for ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Worked for the cow the cow for the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
But that's a Cowboys insider.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, you're not allowed to say a lot when you
work for the team.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
So that's why I like, Okay, okay, I'm like he
was like a Cowboys, Like he was the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Someone recovered a team for that team. You can't, oh,
I can't say a lot all the night. I was
given a lot more freedom than I was when he
was with the cow Boys, but I still he's one
of the best Cowboys analysts I feel like on on
Twitter for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah. I like to say, because I've also been a
team reporter for a couple.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Different franchises, you are not a journalist when you were
working for the team. You are a team partner, and
with that comes may we talk about this?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
May we talk about that?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
When am I allowed to talk about this because the
story broke like two hours ago, But because you haven't
announced it yet, I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I can't talk about it.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh cool, cool, go cool, good dunder.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
The best example that I can give of that was
that I had to sit on the Tom Brady news
for two days when I was at the Buccaneers they
traded for or like the trade warm they signed him.
And I also knew way before even like Schefter reported
it or anything like that, but like obviously I knew,
I couldn't say it then, but then Schefter reported it
on a Wednesday, I believe it was, and I couldn't

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talk about it until that Friday. I was like, are
we kidding?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Similar, Like my closest was probably when the Angels got
Sho Heo Tani, but we weren't allowed to talk about
it yet until it was publicly announced. It's just it's
a wild, weird like honestly, like, wouldn't trade it for
anything because you're a part of the team.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
But when you're a team reporter.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
You trade autonomy for access.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, it's insane. Like you're on the team charter, you're
with them every day. You are a part of the family,
like you are literally a part of the family. Especially
we've both been a part of teams who have won championships,
you with the Bucks, me with Ellie King's and it's
just it's it's a different kind of it's a different
kind of just experience when you win it all to as.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
A team reporter, which is Yeah, although I wish that
we didn't go we were. It wasn't during COVID for
us because I feel like we got of a lot.
But yeah, if it wasn't COVID, though, the Bucks would
have never had their infamous boat parade.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Which was iconic, which was tossing the trophy like Brady
that almost when that.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Was those stories are not fit for air. Let me
tell you and your bruises. I did share my I know, infamously.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, I mean we've we've gotten some inside story.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I did it before Howie Roseman, let's just put it
that way. Yeah, I got hit by a championship. So
much fun. We're gonna have a great day today.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
But let's start in the NBA because Round two of
the playoffs happening right now. As we just mentioned, home
teams are now three and seven, with Dever winning last night.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
But road teams have been dominating this round.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
That's especially like, that's a that's an especially significant note
because the road the road teams essentially are the low
lower seeds, which like in the beginning of the series,
So we are getting a little bit more mystery in
the East, which.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
We like because we said the East was looking like
the top seeds were going to stroll right.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
On through and the Celtics seemed like the course for
the Eastern finals. Wow, I've had something to say about that.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Let's start in the East. Since the Boston Knicks game
is going on right now. Nick's taken two games in
Boston and it it wasn't like they were controlling the
games either.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
The Celtics choked in both games. Boston blew twenty.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Point leads in both those games at home, and this
is the defending champion.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Bostic's Boston Celtics, you guys, the.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Favorite to come out of the East and get back
to the NBA Championship.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Boston seventy five threes in the first two games.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
They were shooting twenty five percent from three, which is
like that was like their one game plan down the stretch.
And the Knicks just had the never quit attitude. They
seemed hungry or more resilient. And their defense just like
hats off to New York's defense, like they were getting
the steals, they were making the stops. Jalen Brunson is
mister Clutch. He won most Clutch during the season and

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to halfn't you guys, and it felt like deja vu.
Huge shout out to our coworker Paul Pierce, who made
a very silly bet which I'm sure everyone saw trending
all over social media this week. He said, if Boston
lose his game too, he guaranteed they wouldn't, he would
walk to work in his robe. So he left his
house around five thirty am and made the twenty mile
walk to Fox Sports studios. You did that, and it

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was hilarious, and he actually did it. He documented the
whole thing. If you were following along it was well,
it was an iconic class.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
This is why you say, though, this is why everyone
says that the playoffs are a completely different season for
the Ayah, because this is when you start playing defense,
and this is where you can get some teams playing
differently than you thought. And what was the biggest knock
I think on the Knicks this year. It was that
they did not beat any one of consequence during the season. Yeah,
and so they were like, all right, if you were

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on a like, if you're headed into the second round
of the playoffs against the defending champions and the favorites, yeah,
what Knicks team is going to show up? Because so
far we have not seen this Knicks team able to
beat really good competition. That has changed now in the playoffs.
That's changed with their defense. It's changed with like you mentioned,
how resilient they've been in late like the late stages

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are the.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Most important part of the game.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
However, my biggest question now is this game in particular,
because Boston has the experience for the long haul here.
So yeah, all right, they choked in the first couple
of games. It's the first couple of games of the series.
But the experience that they have from winning the championship
last year and just being overall a little bit more
successful than the Knicks over the last few seasons. Is

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that they have that pedigree to say, all right, this
is it's okay. If we're down ohe two, we can
climb out of this. We know what it's like and
we can push to a game six, a game seven. Yeah,
they're not worried.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
They're not worried if they being down two, however, favored
in the.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Series, if they drop this game, then you really show
some concern here because the Knicks have just come to
f up, Like I can't say that on the radio. Yeah,
but that's kind of like what their mo has been
because they were so wildly consistent during the year but
still successful against the teams they were supposed to beat
up on. So you were like, all right, they have
the potential, they have the star power, you have Dylan Brentson,

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you have these guys that can lead this team. Now
we have to see it. And they have the They
had the highest variance I think of any team in
the playoffs in the East of like what Knicks were
we going to get? Yeah, and the really good ones
have shown up even against good competition. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think the craziest part too, was like coming into
this series, it was like a lot of Knicks fans.
I was on the herd with j Mac who's a
big Knicks fan, and they kind of had like, you know,
this was great, not expecting much in this next series.
They're playing the defending champs, they're playing Boston. We probably
don't stand a chance. So when you look at teams
who everyone's kind of doubting you anyway, you you don't

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have everything to lose in those series, that's when they
become dangerous. And that's when teams I think you really
have to watch out for. Oh you don't believe we
can do it, let me prove you wrong. Let me
go into your house in Boston instead.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, making a statement in the gardens that is importane.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
That was insane. So this game is big at MSG.
Boston has been controlling Game three so far, they're up
thirty two to eighteen. Right now, brazingis just making another
free throw thirty three eighteen. But it's it's just, yeah,
this game is going to be a pivotal game, and
either like that we have.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Start to talk about in the East because we haven't
had something to talk about. Like everything was so predictable,
it was so down to the playoff seeding into like
the first round of the playoffs too. I mean the
longest series was Nix Pistons and it was Yeah, it
went six games.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
So we didn't we didn't get a game seven in
the first round in the East, and I would love,
uh for that change.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I hope this, Yeah, I hope this series continues on
because this is this is a fun one to watch now.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
The other series in the East, cas were down two.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Oh uh.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
They were the number one seed most of the season.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
They picked up their first win on the road last
night in Indy. But I think kind of my takeaway
from the series so far is like Halliburton is that guy?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Like he is that guy.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Hey, A lot of people, if you would have asked
for a sleeper in the East, would have set the Pacers.
And I think that they and they weren't a sleeper
for themselves either. I mean, they were the fourth seed
coming into the playoffs. They went they handled the Bucks
in five games in the first round. Yeah, And I
just I think that a lot of people like it's
just because it's a smaller market team. I feel like
in the Pacers, which happens a lot, not a lot

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of people talked about how good, how solid on in
both phases of the ball that they are, and now
that's showing up again in the playoffs where defense finally
matters and all of that. They're playing more complete games
and we saw that out of them over the Cavs
those games coming down to the wire too. I really
I love the series that we're getting in the East

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right now. It really do.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Also, like.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
You could tell, he kind of came in with a
little chip on his shoulder, Haliburton. He was voted most
overrated player in the athletics anonymous player pull. So this
is like by his peers voted him the most overrated player,
which and you know, like with the best players in
every sport, that is the perfect bulletin board material you

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need heading into the playoffs. That's okay, cool, you guys
all think this wasn't like a media thing.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
This was you guys. Everyone I'm playing against, watch me,
watch me.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I love stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's one of those like from Pirates of the Caribbean.
It's like you are the worst pirate I've ever heard
of And Johnny Depp is like, but you heard of me?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
You heard of me?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, that's Tyres Haliburton. You have heard from you, but
you have heard of me. Here I come all right
to the west, to the west. First of all, let
me just take a quick moment here to more in
my LA teams.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Because they both blew it.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And I will say to Lakers fans, I think we
got excited seeing the potential of what the Lakers can
be with Lebron and Luca playing to their full potential
when they're on during the regular season.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Do you remember do you remember what my biggest concern
was though? What when they got Luca? What we talked
about it?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, well, I mean their roster got exposed. It was
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
They got rid of their best two way plays? Did
they got rid of a ton of defense in which
they didn't have a lot to begin with, and that
was going to matter in the postseason. That was my
biggest question.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
They need depth, they need a big man, they need help.
And you also have to remember Luca was injured for
a good part of the season. He only played twenty
three games with Lebron, so this is going to be
a very closely watched off season, I think for the Lakers,
especially since you know Lebron ended it injured getting surgery
on his knee.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I think he's coming back.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I don't think it's as much he does this every
at the end of every season, like we'll see, I'll
talk with my family. I think if he's feeling good
after rehabbing, he's for sure going to try to come
and at least run it back for a full season
with Luca, after seeing how excited he was getting Luca
on his team, and then also Luca being able to

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train with Lebron if he chooses to during this offseason.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's if Lebron of responsibility though either it's not.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
But it's also if he it's his teammate and it's
It's something that Lebron is so focused on. He is
known as one of the best keeping your body in
the best shape possible, spending a million dollars on your
body type of player. And if he wants to be
the best, and he is, he is not only trying

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to what go out on top, but like play with
how he said Luca is one of his is his
favorite player right now. Before he joined the Lakers. He
gets to not only show him what it means to
be a leader on the court, but off the court
and off the court is getting your body right and
getting your head right and getting in the right place
and coming in.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
And if, if, if they.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Happen to train together heading into the season, I think
it's going to be a completely different situation for Luca,
which would be great.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Let's get to thunder Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's what we're getting. Yep, yep. We're both the teams
that are still in it.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
And Warriors versus te Wolves series tied at one one,
and we got to talk about Steph Curry because he
is out till at least Game six with a great
earliest come back grade one hamstring strain tonight Game three
in San Francisco. If Curry is out, I don't see
Golden State winning this series. He is the centerpiece of

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this team. Even if he's not having the best game
on the court, he still takes Curry takes so much
attention away from the opposing team's defense. And now it's
up to Jimmy buddy Draymond to have to step up
and be that number one. It's not to say that
they can't but this is an extremely talented Tea Wolves

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scene and Anthony Edwards has been red hot in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
It was interesting Black Game last game though, to see
like Aunt went out for a little bit and you
didn't know how serious that injury was. And so if
you if you would have lost Anthony Edwards and Steph Curry,
then that would have leveled the playing field and made
this another But I do think that Anthony Edwards is
playing with the confidence that the only Anthony Edwards can
play with. Yeah, and the Tea Wolves are a good team.
I think a huge part of that series against the

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Lakers was a lot of people under a stimating how
good the t Wolves are the Timberwolves are, and that's
showing up now in this series with the Warriors. The
Timberwolves are the higher seed and without Steph Curry, without
the aspect that Steph Curry brings to the game, that's
a huge hole in the Warriors offense now. So I

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I that's going to be very especially because the series
is tied. Yeah, and like it's basically a clean slate
at this point, and I really think that there's an
opportunity here for the timber Wolves to just kind of take.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Off with us tonight is going to be very telling,
I think for how the rest of the series is
going to be without a Steph Curry. But let's get
to Thunder and Nuggets. We saw two opposite games in
Games one and two, but Game three last night woo chefs,
kiss you guys, fourteen league changes in regulation.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
It was so.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Close down the stretch. Aaron Gordon ties it with under
thirty seconds. You'll get you had a chance to.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Win it at the buzzer, but miss the shot.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I mean, you'll get you in for twenty five. So
he did not have a good night. But they went
into OT and then experience took over. Denver led all
of OT and this is why you hear experience matters
in the playoffs. Ever, were champs just a few years ago,
and they went through a very dysfunctional last few weeks

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of the regular season, firing their head coach in GM,
and they had an embarrassing, embarrassing Game two Thunder dominated
was a forty three point win. But they turned it
around at home and that's what matters, and now they're
up to one in the series.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Aaron Gordon has been the hero for the Nuggets both
of the games that they've now won. Yeah, and he's
playing like an other worldly level. Like I don't think
that you can argue that he is the most important
player for the Nuggets right now, given that YO kids
didn't really show up this last game. I know I
staged to say that because he's still good on defense
and there's but like his shooting, when.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You miss the buzzer, the buzzer beater, Laura chance to
win to that's very.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Especially when the game is tied. Yeah, just nothing to
lose at that point because you do have the safety
neut of overtime and those situation, so you expect a
guy like you Kics to be able to hit that.
But at the same time, I was like, all right,
the Nuggets came out with a bang in overtime and
really never let up the entire period, So a shortened
period they felt the urgency. They've just been a little

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bit more urgent where I think the Thunder could because
they rolled so easily over the Grizzlies four to zero
and that serious swept him. Everybody was expecting them to
kind of bring that in and you saw that in
Game two where they completely dominated the Nuggets. You're like,
all right, this is where the fact that the Nuggets
don't have a head coach is going to show up.
This is where, you know, kind of the momentum that

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the thunder have built up is going to show and
they're just going to take off and the Nuggets like
put a stopper in that. Yeah last night and it
was an incredible, like you said, back and forth game.
I am very excited about this series going forward because
I do think that, I mean, it wasn't just the
Nuggets playing with the urgency after losing their head coach
in the first round and they're playing you know whatever,

(17:56):
like sometimes I can galvanize the team, but maybe not
necessarily sustain it team. Yah, the Nuggets are something like, no, no,
we've still got it.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh No, that was that was experience last night. Experience
took over and won that game. All Right, we're gonna
take a quick break here, but when we come back,
Derek Carr officially said goodbye to football. That's next on
Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3 (18:26):
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on YouTube. So big news this morning, quarterback Derek Carr
announced his retirement from the NFL after eleven seasons, four

(18:57):
time pro bowler, and this was due to not wanting
to get shoulder surgery. If he was able to play
through it without surgery, I think he was going to
try to play, but that's not the case I becuse
he would have to miss the entire twenty twenty five
season if you got the surgery. So he is out.
Congrats on a great career. But now what does this

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mean for the Saints' quarterback room. This is a sort
of a new chapter and kind of forces their hand
of Okay, maybe it's time to move on from trying
to get.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
A bridge veteran quarterback.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
And see if one of your young guys that you
drafted is going to work now. They drafted Tyler Shuck
in the second round out of Louisville. He had an
impressive Senior Bowl. But I guess my question to you,
I know you, I think you wrote about it this week.
Do you see Tyler Shuck as the future of the

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Saints at the quarterback position?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
What I wrote abod was which teams could be in
the market to be drafting a quarterback high next year
because the quarterback class next year is thought to be
much deeper, much better with the manage, we'll see the
guys only had a couple of starts.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
So anyone wants to talk about though, Wait.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
The thing about the Saints and so, like I wrote
about this, this is before the Derek Carr news came
out that he was retiring. But obviously the Saints knew
enough that the situation was volatile enough that they wanted
to go out and draft a guy in this in
Tyler Schuck to see if all right, Like as an
insurance policy essentially, And that's what I said in the
article too, was like, this is an insurance policy in

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case Derek Carr can't in fact go this season. And
now that we know that he's retiring. I think that
it's it's all the more realistic and the Saints kind
of shoot to the top of the teams that are
going to be in the market for a quarterback next
year because it was so funny. I saw a bunch
of people, a bunch of kind of like the insiders
on social media talk about how Tyler Shuk was considered

(21:04):
the most pro ready of the quarterback prospects this year.
It's a nice way of saying, the kid is twenty
five to six.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, he's played a lot, yea, Yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Older, and not a compliment.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's at the it's not a compliment because he has
played so many games and so you know where his
ceiling lies, and his ceiling is not all that high
right now. You know what you're getting here. So that's
my concern. That was my concern with Tyler Shook. That's
why he wasn't a first round pick. Truly was the
most pro ready. He would have had a higher ceiling,

(21:36):
he would have been drafted in the first round, yeah,
and he wasn't. So that's why I think that he's
a good enough bridge right now between him. You see,
he'll compete with Spencer Ratler still for that starting job.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
But to put your money on Chuck Rattler, who do
you think is starting?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't know. I honestly don't know, because you have
to see if Spencer Rattler is taking another step forward.
You already know what Tyler Shook essentially is, like I said,
he's played a lot of football for multiple different glasses
and he I just it wasn't It was just funny
because I just want to go to such a backhanded
compliment to Tyler Shook. The Saints are Here's the big

(22:19):
thing about the Saints is they're consistently in cap hell
every single year.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
So they need to get help though with car gone right,
because they get like ten million, Yes, but.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
They save some money, but it's not enough to really
make a difference when you have so many expensive veterans
on your team. The Saints need to get younger and
the easiest. And this is the reason why I also
talked about them drafting a quarterback next year, is because
you need to get younger, but you need to save money,
and the best way to do that is to have
a quarterback on a rookie contract. Yes, now, will Mickey
Loomis actually do that I have my doubts because of

(22:51):
the way that the Saints have behaved in prior years.
There's a reason they're always in cap pill and that's
not something that they're really even they're not. They don't
readily admit that either, which is kind of crazy because
like they just make it underneath the cap every single year,
and it takes a lot of creative accounting in order
to do so. They hold on the guys past their prime,
they hold on with with really big contracts. So this

(23:15):
is a team that, like this could be the start
if the Saints are smart rebuild okay, and it should
it should be. It should be. Will they actually do it?
That's my biggest question with this with an Orleans Saints.
They should.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
With this Derek Carr retirement, it's forcing their hands and
they need to.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Now let's check in with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Narrator.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
They will not, thanks Martin, get it, and they will not.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
As a Saints fan today, and I hope Derek Carr
finds I am that's your team born and raised. I
hope that Derek Carr finds his piece, and I hope
his shoulder recovers Happley, but there I don't think there's
many people who are crying today that Derek be quarterback
in the Saints next year.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
And it was not the future.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean, Tyler Shuck was the if.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Dylan gaber was the canary in the coal mine, and
I don't know what the comes before that, but Tyler
Shuck when he got drafted was the first like it's
something funny going on with Shador Sanders. That was the
first moment. Then when Dylan Gaberg, Oh, something definitely is something.
So I just said to say, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I love football.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Do you think he's going to be Game one starter? Chuck?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I don't care that. I was gonna say that's only
Sts fans. That's I have no confidence at all. If
I'm a Saints fan, I have no confidence at all
this year.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Like Spencer Rattler when I went to see him at
the Senior Bowl last year and immediately felt bad for
him because I'm like, wow, he got drafted in the Orland.
His kid's got no shot. Yeah, terrible Organization's been good
once once and you know what it took. Chempaygne and
Drew Brees that's it and and fifty something you know
what with some of the left in the first half.
The Celtics have a forty seven to thirty lead over

(25:03):
the Knicks. The Knicks, though leading the series two games
to none. Right now the Celtics, it's kind of an
all around thing. Jason Tatum was six points alt hover
with five, Derek White with with seven here and Peyton
Pritchard go figure leading them with ten right now and
on the Nick side of the Carloty Towns with nine
and Jalen Brunton with six and three assists. In Major

(25:25):
League Baseball, bottom of the second, Indian Atlanta has a
one to zero lead over Pittsburgh. Going to the bottom
of the second, the Cardinals have opened up a four
to nothing lead over the Nationals. Bottom of the second,
scoreless between the Yankees and the A's and the Brewers
and the Rays and a rain delay waiting for that
when it gets still in the Arrange Atlanta the top
of the first inning. And as you guys were just
talking about, oh White skirt one second, nine minutes, forty

(25:48):
five seconds into the fourth quarter of WNBA preseason, Kaitlin
Clark on the floor right now the Indiana Fever with
a sixty three to fifty seven lead over the Atlanta Dream.
And as you guys were talking talking about their cards
and ELS's retirement eleven year pro, four time pro bowler,
zero playoff wins.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I love that's nice little dig Martin.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Right at the end there, I just tell the truth.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Are you're Lusine and Fox Sports Saturday, Alex Career with
the Carmen Vitally, it's time for our first guest, NBA
insider Mark Medina.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Thank you for joining the show.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Alex Carmen, Thanks for having me. My voice is a
little raspy because over all these amazing NBA Playoffs games.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Hello, I love a good raspy voice.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Let's start with the game happening right now though, because
the Celtics surprisingly found themselves down to two after losing
both games.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Out they're up now at MSG.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
How confident are you that they can pull themselves out
of this hole and make this a competitive series?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Wellow, we'll wait and see, because they're up nineteen. You know,
in game one and two they're up the morning they
still lost the games, So no way to say the
Knicks are going to be resilient. They're a grinded out team.
Jalen Brunson one of the most clutch players in the NBA.
But it is a good start. I think that. You know,
even though Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown aren't necessarily shooting

(27:15):
the ball the best, they're still impacting the game and
everyone else has been elevating their game so they can
tap in to their roster death. I mean, obviously a
lot of attention is on Tatum and Brable. One of
the reasons why they had been one of the best
teams in the East this season is because they have
depth from top to bottom. So so far, so good,
But there's a whole second half of basketball than could If.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
The series does go down to like a Game seven,
who do you trust more mark between.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
The Celtics and the next Yeah, well, going in, I
thought it would be the Celtics. Here's for a few reasons.
One the regular season matchups and Celtics easily beat the
next in both times. I felt like if some of
the struggles during the regular season had to do with
just the championship haang over not, you know, feeling some
complacency and all that here went down to Game seven,

(28:07):
I would say it was still would be the Celics
because of the home court. It would show they raise
their level play. But right now I think the Knicks
are going to take the series because they're playing better.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Round well hear me out, Okay, yeah, I mean they
might work game three.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
You know, team has ever overcome a three zero deficit.
The Knicks have shown that they're the real deal. The Celtics,
they haven't had any good shooting performances yet. Yeah, from
Jason Tatum, Jay and Brown and chrisof Forzingis. Even though
he's playing, he's been dealing with an illness that's been
limited as play. So there's a lot of question marks
that sellers have to address.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Hot take. Okay, let's move to the other E series.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
The Cowns are finally able to get a win, and
you back into this series against Pacers last night. What
has stood out to you most about this matchup?

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Well, there's a few things. One Game one and two,
Tyrese Haliburn has been a clutch player, what then jumped out?
Game three was a complete no show, and so he
has to play better. And I think it also feeds
into all this talk about him being overrated because of that.
Anonymous players poll. You know, talking to his trainers who
handling over this week, you know he downplayed that, but

(29:18):
he's also told Tyree's time and time again, you've got
to be aggressive. You're at your best when you're aggressive.
We didn't see that in game three. I think with
Cleveland they obviously elevated their play because you know, no
team again has come back from a three to zero deficit.
Give credit to Darius Garwin for playing through some pain.
Same thing with DeAndre Hunter with his own injury. But

(29:39):
also Donovan Mitchell has really raised his level game. I mean,
you've seen in the past in his career in the
playoffs where he's not always at his best. Every single
game here in the playoffs, he has been the best
player on the team, best player on the floor, and
that's what the Cavs are going to need. I mean,
they have a lot of good roster depth, but to survive,

(30:00):
they're going to have to have him be at his
best because they're not fully healthy.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I all right, I want to go to the West now,
because it's funny that we took up that much time
with the East, given how I keep saying there was
no mystery heading into these playoffs. About the Eastern Conference.
We all thought that it was just the Cabs and
the Celtics on a crash course to the Eastern Conference finals.
But that may not be the case now, especially if
you listen to you Mark. But in the West, I

(30:28):
was we were talked about earlier, how the Thunder. You know,
they rolled in the first series, swept the Grizzlies, and
then they come into this series with all of the
momentum and it gets completely stopped in Game one by
the Nuggets. Aaron Gordon the hero of that game and
this game last night. But then they kind of got
back on track, and I think a lot of people thought,
all right, here's the Thunder, here's the momentum. They're gonna

(30:50):
keep ascending while the Nuggets are going to show that
all right, there has been a lot of turmoil in
the organization. Maybe they're gonna drop off a little bit
and this may not be a sustainable pace for them.
But now the Nuggets come back last night and this
is this is a bona fide series. Who do you
think ends up coming out of this at this point?

Speaker 4 (31:07):
It's very tough. I mean, I think it's going to
go seven games. I think the way that you outline
the play by play of each game. It shows that
in the playoffs the monum doesn't always carry over to
the next game. It has its own chapter. But the
thing that's been surprising me about this series so far
two things. The Thunder they've been showing some playoff inexperienced

(31:28):
type mistakes that are unbecoming of them, even though they're young,
because they had that playoff gauntlet last year. Number Two,
the Denver Nuggets are a completely different team the playoffs. Yes,
and maybe that's the Some might say, well, let's not surprising.
They have Nicoley, Jokichi's one MVP, they have some of
those championship core players with Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Junior,
Aaron Gordon. But in the regular season they're a completely

(31:50):
different team. There's a reason why just before the playoffs started,
Michael mLAN was fired as head coach. General manager was
Callum Buck was fired because they were very consistent. Number One.
Number two, their role players, we're not playing consistently, both
veterans and young guys, and some of their key players
like Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Junior or and Gordon, we're

(32:11):
dealing with overlapping injuries throughout the season, but in the playoffs,
all of a sudden, that flip has switched. They've leaned
on their championship equity and experience. So if I had
to make a prediction, I still would give it to
the thunder because they are the better team on paper.
But the Nuggets have shown, not necessarily that experience goes
a long way as far as the press, handling the pressure,

(32:33):
but the chemistry of knowing what it takes to win
a championship. You've seen them be able to lie on
bat in Game three.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, I think that one goes seven.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
But let's end with the Warriors and t wolve Steph
Curry out with a hamstring injury and reportedly won't return
until Game six at the earliest.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Can the Warriors still make a deep run without Curry?

Speaker 4 (32:54):
It's obviously a lot harder, but they can do it.
The reason is because they have Jimmy Pollard. You know,
we have to have they always keep in mind he
guided the eighth seed of Miami Heat to the NBA
Finals two years ago. And I think when you look
at that roster compared to the Warriors, the Warriors a
lot better. They have Raymond Green, yeah, he needs to
tone down with technicals, but his defense is always a yeah, exactly,

(33:18):
But buddy, healed great secondary score. He's all from playing
defense their championship experience with Steve Kuriz head coach. So
you know, Jimmy Bower is going to have to raise
his game while still playing within a team concept. But
it's going to be tough because he doesn't have the
same gravity and open space when Steph Curry is on
the floor. But they can't do that. But we have

(33:39):
to keep in mind the Timberwolves have shown so far
in the Lakers series in the first round and so
far in the second round series. They're a team they
have to take seriously. Any Thatwards has taken us given
another level. The Joyce ran over to Gobert dynamic has
improved chemistry wise, They've got a lot of good role
players Mike Connolly, nasrich In McDaniels, a lot of good scores,

(34:02):
a lot of good defenders. So with that, I still
think the Warriors can pull this off even if step
doesn't play at all of the series or is limited
one of the games. But it's going to be very,
very challenging and it's going to go down to the
wire every single game.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, I think tonight's going to be very telling. Mark,
thank you so much for coming on and all that insight.
We really appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Thanks, Mark, appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
All You all right, and we come back.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
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Speaker 1 (34:46):
Is this a responsible thing? I'm terminally online because these
are all TikTok songs?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Is that what the This is a jam?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Thank you Shae for like the best music coming back
from break. We have broadcasting live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios and Last s Angeles. Thank you for spending
your Saturday afternoon with car Me andm Me. It is
time for the dos and don't you guys.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
This is why I love that.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Puting a spotlight on the don't this subject brings me
no choice?

Speaker 6 (35:13):
That's insane.

Speaker 7 (35:14):
It's time for the dues and the dose in sports.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Okay, had a lot of good ones this week.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I mentioned this already, but do follow through with your
best shout out to our co.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Worker call up here on speak.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
We made a very silly bet, which I'm sure you
saw trending all over social media this week. He said,
if Boston moves his Game two, and he guaranteed that
they wouldn't, he would walk to work in his road.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
So after they lost.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
He left his house around five thirty am, made the
twenty mile walk to Fox Sports studios and he was
tired and sweaty.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I can't confirm he actually walked the whole way.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
We have friends and I have family that work on
that show, and people were stopping in and checking in
on him during that walk.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Entered on a wheelchair.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, they rolled, They rolled him, rolled him into the desk.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
That was the Madam was word. You can't argue that.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
That was so beautiful. That's so beautiful, all right.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I have a don't start with it, don't don't don't
underestimate your colleagues, which actually could go for that. Yeah,
but no. So a dear friend of mine who played
for the Bucks on a couple of different stants Carl Nassiv.
He's since retired.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
He famously came out as the first openly gay player
in the Nation Football League while he was still playing.
He was with the last Biggest Raiders at the time,
and he told this story on The Pivot This Week
with Riot with Ryan Clark and Jamison Crowder that he
knew the league was ready for it because of a
really funny thing that happened to him when they were

(36:47):
playing the Browns, which was his old team at the time.
Baker was running a bunch of bootlegs. Carl was having
to chase him down from the other side. He was like,
stop running these, and he used a derogatory term that
he did, the word gay. Yeah, the entire Brown's O
line turned around and looked at him and said, you
can't take that. And he was like, oh, who, he's

(37:08):
ready for this.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, we've got some hollows here.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
And so he came out a few months after that
happened and do a lot of support. He now has
a second act with nonprofit sector. He has yeah app
called Raise that connects nonprofit with businesses and people looking
to volunteer. So if you are one of those people,
go check out rays of the shout out to Carl
and all the wonderful work that him and his foundation
are gone.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah. Oh I love that so much. Yeah so much. Okay,
do show off your style.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
There were so many athletes walking the Met gala carpet
on Monday night, and they serve. I love fashion and
seeing people express themselves through fashion.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
That's how he kind of like describe fashion to people.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'm like, it's all about confidence, like it is another
form of art, like wear what you want to wear.
And it was such a cool It was such a
cool evening. I think it was like the most money
that they've actually ever raised.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Four You had athletes as chairs of the Met Galley
had Louis and Reese was one of the host committee.
There were a couple of others that, yeah, like it
really showed up and it was.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
It was beautiful, Simobiles, Joey b Jalen Hurts, Angel Reese
all just absolutely slipper of all.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Of that was Smolle Biles husband johnthan Owens, who played
the Bears.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
He actually did like friends, did he look so.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Good at Met Gala. But a couple of days before
they were at the Kentucky Derby and he was all fitted.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Is like getting ready before the met because it was tailoring.
It was like celebrating Jack Tayloring.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
From like Black Dandy Harlem. Was it just was, It
was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
It was. It was like Johnathan Owen's just coming and
serving like nobody was so cool, obviously Simon, but I
thought it was really.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
He did, he did serve and he was getting all
the questions on the carpet.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he was insane. I love it.
We love a supportive king. He's like out of the
phone and he's like video and her doing all of
the stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Come a long way from like when they first started
dating and didn't know who she was on the first date.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
That was a little I think overblown. All right, I've
got another due Okay, and if it's you're a Knicks man,
oh do trust in the Lord because yes, the new
Pope of the like he's from Chicago. However, the total
Leo of the fourteenth graduated from Villanova and these are

(39:33):
the nova Knicks, so it's so facto next run. And
so what I guess what I'm saying is Nixon seven,
NI Nixon seven. They got that, They've got the line
on their side on their side.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
The memes, the memes we'll get to come out. Yeah,
we're gonna we're gonna get to that a little bit.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
But the memes with the pope being from Chicago and
just everything I've been Oh, I've got some stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Unreal, unreal.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break here when
we come back, new faces in new places in the NFL.
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome to our two
of Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally.
Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with Carme and me.
Happy NBA Playoffs. We broke down all the big moments

(40:26):
and stories in the first hour, so if you miss that,
you can check it out on our podcast while we
post in the links right after the show is done.
And Happy Mother's Day weekend. So this is a good
reminder to everybody. Call or text your moms tomorrow, tell
them you love them. I'm like, is this my first
Mother's Day because I'm pregnant. I'm like said, yeah, pregnant.

(40:47):
I'm like, doesn't count. I'm kind of like, I think
maybe it does. Another fun thought I've had is and
again like I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
But when I'm driving on the.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Freeway because I have a baby and my belly, can
I drive in the carpool lane?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, Like I haven't.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
I'm like afraid about it, but like can I Like,
I'm I'm a.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Human, there's two of us in this car. Technically, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
I'm not about that.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
A couple of times I'm like, should I do it?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Okay, no, maybe not yet?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Can I say that? I since moving here, have never
actually seen a police officer on the highway, Like I
never see good.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Time, but I have my ways open at all times
because I'm a.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I'm very I like to like they've.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Just got other things to worry about. It's the same
in Chicago, Like they don't really like it's it's a
state trooper that pulls you over on the highway if
you're on the highway in Illinois and in Chicago, like
it's not like Chicago cops have way more to the os.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I like to pretend I'm a professional driver when I'm
driving on the freeway. I do consider myself a professional driver.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
I am great. I am a very aggressive, defensive driver.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
But like growing up in LA like you have to be,
and especially in the beach cities, like with the streets
as small as they are, you just you just become great.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
But like I have ways.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Open it all times because it tells you when there's
a police nearby.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, you don't, I just it. I don't see them,
like I don't see them people over, I don't see
I don't see them.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
See them all the time, all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
All Right.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
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top of your screen. All Right, we're gonna kick off

(42:40):
this hour with new Faces in New Places, NFL edition,
and uh, the Shadoor Sanders saga continues in Cleveland. You guys,
I obviously haven't been in since the NFL draft.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
That whole situation, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
He was painted I think going into it as the
super arrogant player in his interviews, and honestly, I think
Sanders has had a great attitude about it. He's handled it,
I think as good as you can being in the spotlight.
He's posted videos of him. He was dancing when he
got drafted by the Browns. He was excited to see

(43:16):
his locker for the first time in the Browns facility.
And I think he landed, honestly in a good place,
a quarterback room that is wide open at the moment,
and some place that like, if he does show up
and prove that he is good enough, he can be
QB one, because when you look at the quarterback room,
what you got mister badman who won't be ready to play?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Can Shahn Watson who still has an injury and isn't
as was referred to from by Jimmy Haslam as a mistake.
So you own.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
He was a mistake?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Can you pick it? Bounced around a bit? Joe Flacco,
he's forty. I think he probably has the best chance
to start Week one, but I don't think he is
the season fix.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I talked about this a lot last week and honestly
the week before, and I wrote about it too, where
it's incredible that the Browns have five quarterbacks on their roster.
None of them are immediate trade assets, none of them
are the Like Joe Placo is your clear cut starter
because he has the most experience to start the season
and he's the only one you feel good about starting tomorrow,

(44:20):
but like Kenny Pickett is of no value to you
because the only team that still needs a quarterback is
the Steelers, and guess what.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
He just came from them.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
And then you have two unproven rookies and then a
quarterback that's costing you a lot of money that is
a complete non factor. So this is this is kind
of clearly a complete unforeseen situation. Yeah, Andrew Berry admitted
as much, saying the plan was never to take two quarterbacks.
I think this was a directive from ownership to say, hey,
should ur sators have fallen too the fifth round, like

(44:49):
we have to take him, And that was never the
plan for Stpanski and Barry, And so that's now why
they're kind of having to navigate while these two are
now and rookie Mini camp, all right, who's getting And
everybody of course is going to be reading into who's
getting the first reps. Yeah, like Dylan Gabriel got the
first reps before Shadur Sanders did, but then again he
was drafted a whole day before and two rounds before.

(45:13):
That makes sense. There is some truth to when coaches say,
don't read a whole lot into it. Yeah, first of all,
you're in shorts and T shirts for Rooki Mini Caamp,
but it doesn't mean a whole lot. Most of the
team isn't there. You're you're taught, You're playing with guys
that are not going to be on this roster, even
in training camp, so you're there. Isn't really anything to
be taken from that, but it is gonna make it

(45:33):
that much harder for Shadir Sanders to stand out because
for as much as he said today that it's not
about proving everybody else wrong, it's about proving myself right,
he's gonna have very limited chances to do that because
he is competing with a wide open quarterback room and
he is going to have to split snaps with so
many other people that are essentially non factors.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I have to think that the Browns are like, We'll
get rid of Kenny Pickett at some point because you
cannot carry five quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
On ny there's gonna be something going on.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
But it's it's such a and they are I brought
about the Browns again this week because they are another
team that is on the top of my list of
teams that are going to need a quarterback. To take
a quarterback high next in next year, start interesting, and
it's they've completely bungled the position. And I mean that's
nothing new. If you've been a Browns fan. You know
the apast jersey that has all of the quarterback names

(46:21):
on it. Yep, it's it's it's it's an absolute disasters.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
It's going to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I mean, we heard from the goat, Tom Brady, who
has been kind of like a Chadoor Sanders mentor, and
he said, let me remind you I went to the
sixth round.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Use it as motivation for what's to come next. He said.
I actually texted Shador because I know him.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Well, and I said, dude, like, whatever happens wherever you go,
that's your first day Day two matters more than the draft.
I was one ninety nine, so who can speak on
this better than me? Like, what it really means is
use it as motivation. You're gonna get your chance, go
take advantage of it. And we're obviously with the rookie
mini camp, we're we're seeing these we're seeing these first chances,

(47:02):
and we we heard from both shador.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Today.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Do I think we have that sound let's hear from
both of the rookie quarterbacks and kind of kind of
their takes on these first couple of days.

Speaker 8 (47:14):
Thank you for saying that, because I don't like my job.
Here is an approve people wrong, like I prove myself right.
That's that's that's and and I fully self believe with
those people say that's that's just their opinion. So I
don't truly care. They don't really live in my mental
space about that type of stuff. Really doesn't do anything
for me.

Speaker 9 (47:34):
I think it's so early, you know, for me, I
said that in the sense that I only know one
way to prepare, I only know one way to work,
and that is as the starter. You know, I played
a bunch of ball and I have a lot of experience,
so I'm going to use that to my advantage. But
for the most part, I can't say that right now.
I got to continue to dominate the moment and have
great practices as you build on upon that. You know,

(47:56):
I still look forward to meeting my new teammates, you know,
the bets on Monday, So I think that'll be a
question down the road. But I think every day I
approach is like I'm going to go get that rep,
and you know, I live it like that.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
There's just going to be so many emotions tied between.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I mean, how often does a team take two quarterbacks
almost in the draft?

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Almost Like that's weird. I mean, like that what happens.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
When you have like a quarterback that you take in
like the seventh round and it's because it's insurance and whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Again, Andrew Berry, weird situation for both these guys.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
The general manager of the Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry, came
out and said this was not the plan.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
No, clearly, no.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
It again, it presents an incredible conundrum for the Browns
who are investing so heavily in one position and not
getting any returns for it at all. But both of
these guys, I mean, you can't really have any other
perspective on it. I mean, Dylan Gabriel went a third
round quarterback in a draft class that was not highly

(48:58):
touted or regarded at all. So that does it? That
isn't a significant investment that would prevent the Browns from
going next year and taking a quarterback in the first round.
And they have the interesting thing about what the Browns
did in this year's draft. Yeah, not only was it
obviously taking the two quarterbacks, but they set themselves up
by trading back with Jacksonville with another first round pick

(49:19):
next year, so that they have all the capital and
all of the resources to go up and get whatever
record they finished with this year. They have the opportunity
to then go out and get a quarterback last year.
What it's like to get there? You're taking the most
convoluted route here, the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I just I feel bad for these guys, Like, are
they going to be the two backups to Flatco?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
And then once I love like Tom Brady saying he
was picked one nine nine and anything can happen. Yet
is that technically true? Sure? But the amount of quarterbacks
that have made it in this league to an elite
starter franchise level, to a second contract, any of those
qualifications you want to put on them that have come
from outside the first round few and far between.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
The most recent he doesn't have a second contract yet. Yeah,
you don't have a second contract.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, So it's few and far between you find a
quarterback outside of the first round that is actually your
franchise guy, Dak Prescott. Sure, you can anecdotally point to
a couple of different guys, but the overwhelming majority of
the players in the NFL that at the quarterback position
that are playing at a high level, we're taken in
the first round. Yeah, and when you've taken into account

(50:27):
that this was a poor quarterback class, now where you're
drafted doesn't matter now, it just matters how you stack
up to the talent that's currently in the league with you.
So it doesn't matter that you're the second quarterback or
the third quarterback or the fourth quarterback taken off the board.
That completely is rendered completely irrelevant at this point. So
that's why, like, I do what you can with the

(50:49):
opportunities that you're presented if you're sure, if youre Dylan Gabriel.
But it's gonna be an uphill battle either.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Way for both of them. It's brutal.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I hope Shador Sanders pops off, Like I love to
see a good life. Let me prove me wrong comeback story,
and his has just been brutal. Like was he a
first round pick? Maybe not, but I don't think he
was a fifth round pick. But let's move on to
the Steelers trade George Pickens to the Cowboys. Dallas receives
Pickens and a twenty seven to sixth round pick. Well,

(51:18):
Pittsburgh gets a twenty twenty six third round selection, and
they kind of pickswapped in twenty twenty seven with a
fifth rounder. But Pittsburgh, you know, they just traded for
DK Metcalf, so he's going to be their number one
Cowboys get their extra weapon. He's still going to be
like that number two to to Seedee Lamb. And I
think sometimes a change of scenery is the best thing

(51:42):
that can happen for a player who like can be
great and has potential. Is a little hot headed and
positive for Pickens, he's never really had a franchise quarterback
and now you're you're with Dak, you're with a I mean,
it's another storied franchise.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Thoughts on this train they had to do it, need
to do something.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I've like, I don't necessarily know if it was the
best idea for the Pittsburgh Steelers to get rid of
George Pickens because you don't have a quarterback and like
you're already kind of handicapping your offense in that way.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
However, you can't deny that there needed to be a
change of seat because George Pickens is a volatile player
and he can I don't know that Ceedee Lamb is
necessarily the guy to learn from from that regard, but
you are going he's going to have a huge spotlight
on him as.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Member of the Dallas lay one of the biggest.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
But the biggest thing for me was this is something
Dallas has needed to do for the last year and
last year going into the season, I was like, who
are defense is afraid of other than Ceede Lamp? Who
are defense is afraid of other than Ceede Lamp? The
answer was no one, And everybody pushed back on me saying, well,
they've got all these Pro bowlers. I was like, I
don't care. Like, when you talk about an offense and
a productive offense at that you need to present the

(52:58):
defense with differentials. Otherwise, one guy, Ceedee Lamb is going
to be going to go ineffective and where it's going
to go not ineffective in the sense that for Ceeda,
but like effective for Ceede Lamb, because he is capable
of he's capable of being a top three receiver in
this leak. He is the top three receiver in this league.
Now you get the injury to Dak Prescott and there's
all that. However, going into this year, you cannot deny

(53:21):
that you needed another weapon, whether that was another receiver,
whether that was a bona fide running back, whether that
was a better tight end. I like Jake Ferguson, He's
just not necessarily that guy. I was begging the Cowboys
to do this last year, so now they finally do it.
And I think that giving up a third or trading
away a third round pick for him, I think it's

(53:43):
fine if you can indeed get what George pick if
you can get the ceiling from George Pickens, if you
can get his ceiling, he is going and he is
inherently going to be, at least in the beginning respected
by defensive. Opposing defense is like, all right, we need
to cover him, we need to make or that you
know somebody is on him, which takes attention away from

(54:03):
Ceedee Lamb. They should balance out I don't actually hasitas
a balance out the Dallas Cowboys offense because they still
need a better run game. Yes they do, but this
helps like Dallas to kind of backed themselves into a
corner by waiting this long by doing all. Like the
fact that they didn't draft a receiver to me was.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Just like weird, what weird?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
The fact that the Steelers didn't draft a quarterback was
also kind of or like, who was weird?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I think have essentially given up on this year, like
addressing the quarterback position this year.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
The long term, they have three backups and not a
franchise quarterback right now. And the latest of Aaron Rodgers
is like when they were asked about it, one of
the minority owners said, it's more it's more complex than AI.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
What excuse me?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
What I'm so out on any of the discourse around Aaron.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Rodgers basically have no idea he's got any idea.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
He's got no insign up to sign at this point
because with anybody, because like he doesn't want to do
OTAs and so he can just avoid that whole speculation
of not getting in for OTAs with the new team
by just not signing with a new team. So, like
I've said that, I think he's gonna wait a while.
He could even wait.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
For the season.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
He could even wait too till training camp to see
if something happens where another team. Right, he's clearly not
sold on going to the Steelers. No over not uh that,
But like, at this point, if you're Pittsburgh, you were
never going to get the long term solution at quarterback
this year with the draft position that you had, not
wanting to give up assets. I think it was kind

(55:39):
of smart in a way to go out and get
guys that can immediately impact your team. Derek Carmon was
one of my favorite guys in the draft, but because
you knew at the end of the day you weren't
going to solve your quarterback issues this year. No, so like,
all right, wait for next year when the class is
deeper and maybe you have a losing run.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
He's kind of the first ever losing record. I don't
that's tough. That's interesting. Real quick, last one here, the
trade up for Travis Hunter landing with the Jags.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
His excitement was next level.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
He's a Florida boy born born and raised there until
high school, then until he moved to Georgia. But no, no, no, no,
that was something else I was going to get into.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
But no, congrats to him.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I want to get to Abdul Carter real quick, who
went number three in the draft to the Giants. The
headline in the last few weeks is that he's been
asking for retired numbers. He asked for a number fifty six,
Lords Taylor's retired number. He said no, respectfully, and then
he asked for number eleven, Phil simms retired number.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
He said no.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Family had a vote and he was outed out voted
by his.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Family to let Carter wear it. And I have some
thoughts on this.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You can't do that, buddy, Like you can't like it,
just rubbed the wrong way, like coming into a team
like yes, you were a top draft pick, you haven't
really earned anything yet. And it's a respect thing for
these players who came before you, who got one of
the highest honors that you can get with a franchise,
to get their number retired. It's different if a player

(57:16):
offers it to you, but to have the audacity to
ask for a retired number is just I didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
H Martin and I talked to Ak Shipley about this
last week and AQ went to Penn State twelve year
NFL better and AQ won the Rimington Trophy, which is
given to the league's best or the college football's best
center while he was at Penn State. So he came
into the league though he was a seventh thrond picky
with some accolades, and he's just like, you don't do
you don't do that. Also from you don't do that.

(57:45):
It with Martin that brought this up, where why would
you want to put that on yourself? Why would you
want to put those expectations on yourself, because then you're
always going to be You're always gonna have to justify
taking that number, especially from a guy like Lawrence Taylor eleven,
you know, like Michael Persons who came out of Penn State.
Where's eleven for the Dallas Cowboys. So now you're going
to be compared to Michael Parsons, like, yeah, your own player, Yeah,

(58:08):
be your own guys. Set your own standards for a number.
Don't go after anybody else's. I'm happy that you have confidence.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Yeah we should, but then that was just wrong.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
But you're asking for problems you don't want.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
You can't do that. That's just a respect thing that
rubbed me the wrong way. All right, We're gonna take
a quick break here, but when we come back. Yeah,
Bill Belichick is in the media again, but not for football.

Speaker 3 (58:32):

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday, Am. Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitally, coming to you live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon
with Karmi and me. Now, Bill Belichick, you guys, has
just been taking over the media, but not for football.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Which is so weird to say so.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
It's so add a character and so not on brand
for Bill's entire NFL career because it's all been about
him and his girl friend Jordan. And to ban or
not to ban her from you and see football facilities
was the headlines yesterday that she apparently was banned, and
then they came out and said so that she wasn't
and that it's just it's just been a whole mess.

(59:13):
And let me just let me just share this right now.
I do not care who you date, right I have
grandpa best friends, I have best friends of all ages.
Age has never been an issue for me. In any
capacity as long as it's legal. Is it weird, sure,
but it's not my life. You do you We live
in a no judgment household. What I have an issue

(59:36):
with is when your work, when your relationship starts to
affect your work, right, because it's become a distraction.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
It is the distraction. They are.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
The most talked about thing in college football right now,
and it's Bill Belichick and his she's twenty four four
year old, Yeah, she can'trun a car yet, twenty four
year old girlfriend. And Bill Belichick is the state's highest
paid public employee at ten million a year. And the

(01:00:11):
part that kind of feels off a little to me.
Julian Edelman was on The Herd this week and shared
that Bill's biggest rule while he was a head coach
was no distractions around the game, around practice, around football. Right,
and so he is doing exactly what he preached not
to do for decades, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
The biggest thing, the biggest thing that, like we talked
about this last week, which was Jordan Hudson is being
c seed on emails coming from the university. She is
acting on behalf of Bill Belichick while he is doing
his personal stuff. And the North Carolina when he was
the North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Football takes like personal rep to his.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
And her stuff. Her inexperience in the job that she's
doing for Bill Belichick, Yeah, is my biggest issue because
it's creating fire it's self inflicting firestorms on the both
of them that it's becoming a distraction, but it's also
affecting people outside of them. If she was just Bill
Bill Belichick's publicist and only for his book and all

(01:01:14):
of this other stuff, that's another story. But when you're
involving the university in all of this. The university came
out and they said that she's not banned, and she's
allowed in the football's facilities, but she's also not allowed
to be a part of Like she said, she wasn't
hired by the university. The university made sure to say
she's not an employee of the university, but she did
have sway and that's an inarguable point. I want to

(01:01:35):
shout out Pabolatore because Pabulatoria finds out his podcast did
an extensive, extensive investigation into Jordan Hudson, into her past,
into her current and the story gets weirder and weirder
and weirder the more you learn about it, and the
more you learn about her. Apparently she's very concerned with

(01:01:55):
her The Miss main pageant is starting today, and she's
very concerned that this whole episodisode has decreased her chances
of winning Miss Maine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
She's still competing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yes, what go? You have not checked out Pablo Torre's episode?
Pablotorius finds Pablo Torre finds out the latest episode diving
into Jordan Hudson and just what her the power structure
and what has going on? You talk to eleven different sources,
so I can't get to all of it. We can't

(01:02:24):
get to all of it. I really encourage you. He's
put so much effort into this. Please go look at Pablo.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I've just clips, but now I want to Now I
want to die.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I have to listen to the same, the whole thing, because.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
There is It's not what I'm doing on my drive home.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
There is so much. It's so weird, Like the footnotes
of this story so weird, hard that aren't even making
headlines right now, Like her mom apparently has a sex museum.
Excuse me, there, there is There is so much to
this story that you don't know. And Pabloatore talked with
people that directly talk to her, that are directly part
of her life, eleven different sources. Please go check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
The only thing that kind of like can so me
a little Charles Barkley coming out and saying he's been
close with Bill Belichick for decades and he's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Concerned about him. I'm like, I would be so that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Again, Bill, blink, blink twice if you need some help.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
But again it goes back to I don't care what
you do in your relationship. Are you qualified for the
job that you are apparently doing and that is not
the case. Also shout out Lawrence Holmes to Paul students
who apparently my clip from last week was used in
class to talk about PR and the basics of PR
journalism one oh one that Jordan's seemed to not understand well.

(01:03:36):
The subject does not dictate, no questioning ever, answer it
however you want, you spent it. You if you are
working with an outside outlet, s Yes, mornings is one
of the last bastions of independent of actual journalism in
the morning slot. You do not get to dictate that interview.
And if you would have known the PR basics, as
Jordan Hudson, you would have never stopped it where you did.

(01:03:58):
You would have allowed that line of questions. You would
have shown that this would have set off a much
larger and unintended consequences than you were ready for.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Who would have thought, All right, now, let's check in
with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
More or less insane?

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
That or the fact that the Celtics have blown multiple
twenty point leads in this series, because right now they
are up ninety six to seventy. Okay, we've seen this
story before in games one and two. Yeah, but looks,
I don't know, we're seeing Mitchell Robinson just shot a
free throw, so all the same beats are happening.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
But yeah, still Bill, Still Bill.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Okay, Well, right now in this Game three of the
Eastern Conference one my finals, right now, seventeen points a
piece for Jason Tatum and Derek White, Jalen Brown with
nineteen points leading all scores, Peyton Pritchell with eighteen off
the bench.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
He shiit four threes.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
Jalen Brunston's got nineteen, Kronthley Towns with fifteen. Josh Hart,
he's got ten points and six rebounds, again a twenty
six point deficit for the Knicks at the at home
first game of this series in Madison Square Guard ninety
six to seventy Major League Baseball bottom of the sixth inning,
the Braves have a two to one lead over the Pirates.
Also in the bottom of the six, Cardinals four to

(01:05:14):
nothing over the Nationals, A's have a four to one
lead over the Yankees and the bottom of the fifth,
and at the bottom of the fourth, the Brewers have
a won nothing lead over the Rays. The Indiana Fever
had a preseason game today. Caitlin Clark finished with thirteen
points to twenty three minutes of action, So the second
preseason action. They beat the breaks off of the Brazilians,
some team from Brazil and the wouldn't it been the

(01:05:36):
Brazilian national.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Team, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
It was like they're a actual team.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
It was like, you know, they played like the under
nineteen or you know, throughout all years in the summer.
It was one of those Brazilian teams.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
That was their first game.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
This one was against WNBA competition, the Atlanta Dream much
closer margin by the way, eighty one to seventy six.
That was not the score against that Brazilian team that
they played earlier. And Derek Carr, eleven year veteran in
the NFL, most of it with the Raiders first the
Oakland Raiders and the Vegas Raiders, and then I went
so well there with he and Dennis Allen, which was
the worst quarterback and head coach winning combination in the

(01:06:12):
NFL history. Saint said, let's run it back, same quarterback
head coach combination again for two three years. No more
success there, you know what I'm being sorry, I'm a
Saints fan, but congratulations to Derek Carr making seriously a
second round pick out of Fresno State, making it eleven
years in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
That it is an accomplished man. I went to Barden especially.
I've heard from guys that he played with that it
wasn't the end, he wasn't the best leader. But I'm
not here, I'm not no, I'm not here to do that.
On a day that he retired, he forfeited a lot
of money by doing so, so.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
Hey gave up thirty million guarantee. He did not want
to have shoulder surgery. Hurt that shoulder going over the top.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yell In a major injury. I don't blame him. I'm
not either.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
I'm not not going to leave this, so I do
a tip of the cap to Derek Carr for eleven
years of service. Second round pick out of Fresno State.
He hangs them up to love a.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Little bits, zero playoffs wins. Last hour, Gosh, Martin Jem
all right, you're listening to Fox Sports Saturday and Males
Curry here with Carmen Vitali. It is time for our
next guest. He is the host of the NFL and
Fox podcast. A bestie of the show, Dave Hellman, thanks
for coming on.

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
Happy to be on. Guys. What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
You know so much?

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Let's start with, Uh, your Cowboys finally training for a
wide receiver at George Pickens this week. How important was
it for them to add another weapon to this offense?

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
Oh? I mean it was crucial. I think important underscores it.
I mean, I said after the draft, And it wasn't
the Cowboys fault in my opinion that they came out
of the draft without a receiver. Sometimes the board just
falls that way, but they needed one if anybody was
going to take them seriously as an offense. I mean, C. D.
Lamb and a bunch of names that only Cowboy diehards

(01:07:54):
know just isn't going to get it done, and so
they needed to make it happen. I blowed them. I
think it's a great move. I think George Dickens pairs
well with CD Dak Prescott, whatever you might think of
the best quarterback George Dickens has ever played with. And
I think it has some serious potential.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Yeah. I was on the record to mixed reactions last
year saying that the Cowboys needed somebody else other than
Ceedee Lamb that defenses were afraid of, and they do
now have that essentially in George Pickens. But I stopped
short of saying this is a balanced offense because I

(01:08:33):
still think there's work to do on this offense to
actually make it more complete and balanced. Would you agree.

Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
Do Yeah? I mean it's funny that this is where
we're at with the Cowboys, where it's like, Okay, you
did something, and it's so exciting that you forget that.
I mean, they could be doing more. You know, they
drafted a couple running backs this year. Jake Ferguson is
still there at tight end, had kind of a down
year last year, maybe can bounce back. But like you

(01:09:02):
look around at the top offenses in the NFL. I mean,
obviously they share a division with the reigning champs. The
Eagles are a who's who of Pro bowlers at every position,
and you look at it and you're like, yeah, this
could still get a lot better. That's why you know.
I'm not usually the guy that's advocating for going out

(01:09:22):
and signing a bunch of you know, big names just
because we know who they are. I think most of
the time those guys are available for a reason. But
I would love to see the Cowboys sign somebody like
Nick Chubb, somebody if even if his best days are
behind him, it's the guy that gives you a chance
at some deuce, which is just what the Cowboys have

(01:09:43):
been sorely lacking for. I would say twenty one is
the last time that I really felt like the Cowboys
had enough firepower on offense. So yeah, I'm with you,
even though this is a step in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Where would you rank Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens among
the top wide receiver duos in the league.

Speaker 6 (01:10:05):
And I actually did that. I did for Fox this week.
I got I got him some trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Okay, let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
I mean I had him at four. I think you know,
if if you want to put him at five, I
think that's fair, you know, Benesota fans. I mean, I
think for my money, it's it's very obviously Cincinnati at
number one, and then right behind them, I think Philadelphia
And if you think Philly's number one, that's fine with me.

(01:10:34):
I think those two are are better than everybody. Yes,
and then for me, I know Tyreek Hill had a
down year last year, but I still think he's got
some gas in the tank. So I had Miami in third,
and then after that, I think it's a toss up
between Minnesota and Dallas, like whoever you like more. Obviously,
Justin Jefferson is arguably the best receiver in the NFL. Yeah,

(01:10:56):
if you if you think Jefferson and Jordan Addison is
better than Pickens and Lamb, I'm not gonna argue with you,
but I would I would have Dallas and Minnesota in
some order for four and five.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Yeah, we we talked about this, like there's there's a
case I understand Minnesota fans being mad at Dave for
putting them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
They are not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
I get it. I get it because I do think
that Justin Jefferson is a better receiver than Ceedee Lamb,
which makes up for the discrepancy between what you think
George Pickens can be versus Jordan Nadison. Jordanadison, although he's
not necessarily less problematic with the legal troubles he's had,
I guess I still think that that Jets is enough

(01:11:39):
to take this. Those guys give him a little bit
of an edge, but you know, to teach their own
day of you. You spent ten years of the Cowboys,
you know what it takes. And looking at that twenty
one twenty one team, I mean, yeah, Tony Pollard is
the biggest Tony Pollard I think, and Cedric will Are.
Michael Gallup kind of being at the like the fringe

(01:12:00):
weapons means that that team is probably pretty good.

Speaker 6 (01:12:04):
Yeah exactly. I mean Tony Pollard as you're running back,
he was coming into his own And yeah, if if
prime Michael Gallup before he got hurt is your third
best receiver, which he was on that team because Amari
Cooper was still there and was still very productive. That's
that's what it takes. And it's funny because I think

(01:12:25):
people are finally starting to come around on this. But
for so long we've done this whole thing where it's like, well,
how much help does Dak Prescott need? How many weapons
does he need? Every team in the league is doing
everything it can to surround its quarterback with as many
weapons as possible. I mean, people are killing the Bills
for not doing more to get Josh Allen another receiver,

(01:12:47):
and they went and signed Elijah Moore after the draft.
Josh Allen is a way better quarterback than Dak Prescott,
and so like if the Bibles and Cheats of the
world are turning over every so to get their quarterbacks
more weapons than the Cowboys absolutely should be and hopefully
this George Pickens trade is a sign that the Cowboys

(01:13:09):
are starting to understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Okay, Another hot topic this week was we got our
first look at Shador Sanders with the Browns at rookie
mini camp, but he did not take first reps. He
was behind their third round pick Dylan Gabriel. I've gone
before him. What are your expectations for Shador throughout camp
and do you think he has a chance to earn
the starting job?

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
I mean, I think he absolutely has a chance because
the Browns quarterback situation, I mean, look at hot mess,
look at what they Not only is it a hot mess,
but I always at this time of the year, I
always say follow the money. I mean, George Flacco is
forty and he's making forty million dollars. Kenny Pickett's salary
is like two million, okay, and all they had to

(01:13:51):
trade for him was like a fifth round pick, and
then you got a couple of rookies. There's nothing stopping
the Browns from giving the job to the best quarterbacks.
I think I think he has a chance. But having
said that, I always say this, It's funny during the
whole build up to the draft, we get so excited
about all these guys potential, and then as soon as
it's over, unless you're a top fifty pick, my expectations

(01:14:16):
go out the window. Like I have no expectations for
Shirir Sanders. He's forth on the depth chart. He's probably
not going to get reps ahead of Dylan Gabriel, at
least until he definitively proves that he's better, which will
probably take at least a couple weeks into camp, if
not more than that. So he's already just by where
he wound up getting drafted. He's behind the apall and

(01:14:38):
I honestly, I think it's unfair to him to put
a ton of expectation on him. That doesn't mean that
he can't defy those expectations or blow us all away.
But yeah, once you're once you're a day three pick.
I'm just setting my expectations at neutral, and you know,
let's see what happens. But it's it's a hard place
to dig out of when you're third worth on that

(01:15:00):
quarterback up chart because there's just not that many reps
for these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, also doesn't help that he wasn't a part of
the original plan, which is just hard. But Dave, we
appreciate you always coming on the show. Thank you so
much for all your insight.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Anytime you'll talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
All Right, we're gonna take one more break when we
come back our feel good stories of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday of Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitali, who has definitely shaking that thing right now,
let's end it with the dance party.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Now you guys, if you missed the show, shortly after,
our shour podcast will be going up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
You can find it anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
That you get your podcast, just search Fox Sports Radio.
We will also be posting it out the link on
all of our social media accounts at Alex Underscore, Curry
at Carmi V. So let's end on our feel good
stories doing the week.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
I know it's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
School music has been like fire today.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Good job, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Middle school was also not a great time, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
The music was hilarious and awesome. There's all these memes
that where you look back, you're like, we were singing
all those words that were definitely not a not appropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Okay, we're headed to the Showball is always appropriate as
far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
It works. Okay, let's head to Vatican City in Italy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Why you ask, well, because the first American Pope, pop
Leo the fourteenth from Chicago, you guys, and is a
Chicago sports fan and the internet has been losing its
mind over it. He went to Villanova, he is a
white Sox fan, and Chicago has produced a pope and

(01:16:46):
a president before the Bears got a quarterback to throw
over four thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
I had to I had to just drop.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
I know, I know, but their current quarterback Caleb Williams
had some fun with it the pope tweeting that out,
He sure did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
But the memes KRMI have just been well like Chef's kiss.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Well, this is ignited the North Side and South Side
rivalry to biblical levels because initially it was reported that
the pope was a Cubs fan. Wait what Yes, it was,
and like so much so that on the Wrigleyfield marquee
it said congratulations like Cubs fan, Pope Leo the fourteenth.
And then his brother, Popolio's brother, Robert Prevost is his name,

(01:17:26):
Robert Francis Prevost was was interviewed for this white local
journalism matters. Y people WGN went to the house of
his brother. Yeah, and not only found out that he's
a word ole player and a Words with Friends player,
he just liked me for real. He his brother was like,
I don't know where anybody got that. He's always been
a Sox fan. And then and then somebody found a

(01:17:48):
picture sometimes scongress sometimes found a picture of him at
the two thousand and five World Series against the Astros.
And then somebody went and scrubbed through the game that
he was at. He was on the broadcast. No, so
you saw him as he grew up on the South
Side of Chicago, Southside suburbs, yea, and he is like

(01:18:09):
he's a white Sox fan. And this is like me
being the newly I feel like newly coined term cradle Catholic.
I feel very conflicted about this because, first of all,
being raised in Chicago Catholics has prepared me for this
moment my entire life. But I'm also like kind of
conflicted where I'm like, is the pope supposed to be cool? Yes,

(01:18:31):
it's never happened in my life. Why not? It's it's time,
It's time, And I do think it's I mean, it's
really interesting because he was such a good choice for
so many different reasons outside of being American. He's the
most un American American because he's so worldy. You spent
so much time in Perdue or Peru doing missionary acting,
open missionary missionary work in Peru, so he speaks like

(01:18:53):
five different languages. He spent a ton of time in
Rome doing the seminary school, and really like he's he's
was in charge of electing bishops before that, which is
how kind of his name rose to prominence over others
in this conclave.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Yeah, but Cola came out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
This is the first like relatable pope where I'm like,
oh my god, he's had an Italian beef sandwich like
Portillo's now in Chicago has the leo, which is Italian beef,
baptized in gravy, which is just Italian beef wet. That's
how you were it. He's had. He probably has an
opinion on tavern style versus.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
DC's Papa definitely does, like are we going to get it?
His brother's probably going to give it to us. His
brother's going to give us all the tea.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Well, his brother like authority, play words with friends every
day together. I'm like, imagine your brother just becomes pope.
But I also have like a ton of people that
have connections to him that like their priests on the
South Side, our friends with him, worked with him, they
have pictures with him and like their kids babies baptisms.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
It's that's insane, it's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
It's God loves Chicago people. That's all I'm gonna say.
He's gonna come from confirmed. God took sides in the
New York for Chicago rivalry, and we know what that
side was down Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. We'll
see you next week, same time, same place. Have a
fun weekend, guys,

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