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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, it's her Day. It really is. We're gonna
tell you all about it in just about a minute.
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm good?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's a great day. I said, it's her Day. It's
Mother's Day today. I'm just wondering how many moms actually
listen to us? What do you think? Do you think
a lot of moms listen to us on Sundays?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I think I think there are a few moms that
are paying attention to us at this hour.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Let's hope. So No, here's the deal. Why is our
show head and shoulders above the rest? I'll tell you why.
I figured it out. I'm not that smart, but I
figured this out because we not only entertain, we inform.
We entertain and inform at the same time. And I
wanted to know why Mother's Day started when it's the
How does Okay? So I looked at that little information,
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little entertainment of information. Right now, Anna Jarvis with the
first Mother's Day celebrated through the service of worship where
at Saint Andrew's Methodist Church in Grafton, West Virginia. I've
never been there. I don't know where it is, but
in Grafton, West Virginia, they must have a big sign
there or something whatever it was on May tenth, nineteen
oh Wait, first Mother's Day there you go write it
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for your mom, say, I remember back in nineteen oh
eight I heard it with Bucky Brooks and Ad Firman
a Fox Sports Sunday that was the first Mother's Day.
Now the question is, Buck, where's the best place to
take mom today on Mother's Day? Because you can't get
a reservation anywhere. You really can't.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, I mean you can if you're going to wait
till the day to try and get in.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean, if you plan to head, you should have
been able to get your mom wherever. But look, this
is what I've heard, the biggest day in the restaurant industry.
When it comes to it, everyone knows that you're going
to take your mom out to a restaurant, a nice
place and so you got to on the right spot
for you, mom, but also a place where you can
get in if you were last minute when it came
to making reservations.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well that's me, And I tell you what I'm really
worried about, because I know the drive through line of
McDonald's gonna be bad. It's gonna be really bad today.
It's gonna be like about an hour and a half
wait in that drive through McDonald's. So we'll see. But
you know, she likes to fish. She likes to McDonald
McDonald's fish. So we'll take care of her today on
Mother's Day. That's what I do. I'm a good guy.
I take care of mom and everybody else. That's what
we do. Now, let's get it to the task at hand.
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Let's talk a little basketball right now. And everybody's wondering
about the Minnesota Timberwolves. Yeah they're for real all right, Anthony,
which came alive. He's got thirty six last night. But
shame on men, Shame on men for toying, toying with
the Golden State Warriors without steph one O two ninety
seven never should have been that close. It never should
have been that clubb Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Even?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
There's no offense whatsoever. Hey, Jimmy Butler, Jimmy Buckets, what
do you got? Thirty three? Last night? He came alive.
He had no help, He had no help. This team
shows you how valuable Steph Curry is. And he's on
the bench kind of like giving them support on the bench.
He couldn't play. But without him, there's no offense, doesn't move,
it look flat, and it was back and forth, in
and out, whatever it may be. Julius Randall a triple double?
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What if happened to him? He didn't play like that
when he was on the Knicks. He didn't play like that.
In New York. He came alive. He scored twenty four.
McDaniels fifteen, Anthony Edwards thirty six. I'll tell you, I mean, honestly,
if you look at the stats, team stats, there's somewhat online,
almost even, but again without Steph Curry, that shows you
how valuable this guy is. That offensive flat at turnovers,
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not good, not good at all.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I mean, most teams can't move away or win without
a top fifteen player, maybe a top ten player in
NBA history.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
You remove him from the lineup.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
A lot of teams WI all struggle and with the Warriors,
he's not only that caliber player, but he's kind of
the cog in the wheel, the guy that makes it
all go because his long range shooting opens up everything
for everyone else. And even though playoff Jimmy Bucket is
a monster, they still aren't the same team when they
don't have Steph there. Buddy Hill can make shots, and
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some of the other guys can make shots, but the
thing that you know when the ball is in kept
Steph Curry's hands. He put in a basket and that
is something that is comforting to everybody else. Everyone can
play their respective roles, but without him, everyone has to
earn a promotion. Everyone has to be promoted to a
different role, and they're uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And what we saw, even though it was a.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Very competitive game, a very spirited game, they can't finish
because they didn't have Cheff Curry in the building.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You're exactly right now, if you look at the stats
without looking at the final spot, you look at team
stats trying to compare what's going on. Both teams shot
like forty three percent from two all right, from three points,
it was like thirty eight percent of Minnesota forty three
percent for Golden State. But those stats kind of askewed
a little bit doesn't mean anything. Rebounding thirty six rebounds
as a team for Golden State and forty four rebounds
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for Minnesota. But it was the inside players. Julius Randall,
I mean, come alive in the playoffs. A triple double
last night, twenty four points, twelve assist, ten boards last night.
The second player in Minnesota Timberwolves history to record a
triple double. Who did he join Kevin Garnett? All right?
I mean this team is playing and I tell you
what the players had the talent. I give a lot
of credit to the coaching staff in Minnesota. This team
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is good. It's a good Minnesota Timberwolves team, and they
I believe they can go deep in the playoffs because
they got the big guy. They got Anthony Edwards who
came alive in the third and fourth quarter last night.
I think they play and they played well as a team.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, they played well as his team. And I'm gonna
give Chris Finch a lot of credit. You want to
know why Julius Randall's playing well, Because when Chris Finch
was in New Orleans with Julius Randall.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
That was Julius Randall's guy.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
He talked about how he prepared him, how he always
had them ready to play for each game, and them
reunited in Minnesota has really allowed Julius Randall to get
back to doing what he's been able to do even
at times when he flashed with the LA Lakers. Look,
he's a bucket. He can go and get buckets in
certain situations. And what they've assembled is really an interesting
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and fascinating team to watch. They're long and athletic. They
can d up, but they have the ability to go
off the bounce, and they can kick it out and
shoot threes. And when they're knocking down those threes, I
mean they're a very tough team because they put you
so far out of your comfort zone. And then ant
man Anthony Edwards can get to the rack whenever he
wants to, and he has added the three ball to
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his game. Just a really good team, well constructed team.
Even though they finished what they finished in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Man, this team has.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
The makers of not only being a Western Conference finals,
but they can challenge the team that comes out the
East if they make it to the finals.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Agreed. Now you look at the Golden State Warriors lineup
right now, and you look at Jimmy Butler, kudos to
him with thirty three points and seven boards, no help.
And Draymond green where was he last night? Two points
and two boards? What happened to Draymond Greenland? I mean,
I don't understand. I mean, how a guy could be
so consistently inconsistent? All right, he's a Hall of Fame,
there's no doubt in my mind he's going to be
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in the Hall of Fame. And then he's one fourth
titles with this team. And he's a big cock for
this team, any team. We'd love to have him. But
you gotta get more. You gotta give him a little
bit more, Draymond come on, two points, come on, you
gotta help Buckets out there. Thirty three. And I love
the way Buckets played because not only did he shoot
from the outside, he challenged He challenged the interior of
Minnesota list night, big time. And that's what he had
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to do. And I think that's why Rudy Golbert got
in foul trouble early on in the first half, because
he challenged him inside underneath and he did a tough player,
loved Jimmy buckets. But he needs help and he didn't
get much help last night.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, but I think you have to understand what Draymond
Green is. Jamon Green is a glue guy. He's a
defenderve first offensive player either second, third, fourth in terms
of what he brings to the table. And the night
before the game, before game two, look, he was out
of pocket. I mean he had more points, more threes
than he ever typically does. You can't count on him
to be your complimentary weapon on offense.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Someone else has to step up and make shots.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And you know, I know we're looking for Draymond because
he has the most experienced chance ship pedigree, Hall of
Fame resume.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
But that's not his lane. And so without Steph Curry,
when we.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Talked about guys being thrust in the lanes that are
uncomfortable for them in their games, Dremond Green is a
prime example.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
All Right, I want to move on to the other
game because I think that was the game that a
lot of people had their eyes on the early game,
the Celtics Knicks game, because if the Knicks would have
won last night, they would have put the nail on
the caff into the Boss and Celtics. They would have
been a three zip. Didn't work out that way. One
fifteen ninety three. And all I heard last night about
commentary after the game. I'm not going to point out
names who I heard it from, but this is what
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I heard spinning the dial around the country, locally, whatever
it may be. No one talked about the game. No
one talked about how the Celtics played. It's about the
Nick fans. I mean, oh, the Knick fans before the game,
they were hanging from the rafters. They were so exa,
who gives a rats? What about Nick fans? Okay, any
fan that has a team that's up to ZIP in
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the playoffs is going to be google. They're gonna go nuts, okay,
and I have no problem with that. Up picking on
the Knitck fans, and they said, now the air is
let out of the blood. Of course, any fan of
any team that their team is up to ZIP against
the defending world champs, they're gonna go crazy. And it
was a home game to hang up from the rafters
at Madison Square Garden. Of course they're gonna go nuts.
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One fifteen to ninety three. Now, let's go a little deeper.
Let's dig a little deeper into this series. Right now,
the Knicks trailed by twenty in both games. Right Boston
missed seventy five to three point shots as the team
in the first two games. Seventy five. I mean, honestly,
if I'm looking at the Boston lineup and if I'm
looking like the game plan, you know, if it's not working,
change go inside a little bit. Dy didn't. They're up
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twenty points in both first two games, and they lost
their games. Boston handled the Knicks quite easily during the
regular season. They're a better team than the New York Knicks.
They will probably win this series. So take a step back,
take a breath, take a pill, a chill pill, and relaxed.
Boston's a better team. Why they let the Knicks come
back those first two games in Boston less is beyond me.
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But right now, with that win last night, and they
handed it to them last night, there was no contest whatsoever.
This series is gonna go down and Boss is gonna win.
They're a better team, that's just the way it is.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
They are a better team, but the way that they
play creates opportunities for the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
To get to steal it. And because they lost the first.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Two games and the manner in which they lost them
where they had twenty point leads and let them up,
they put themselves in a tough situation where they get
to win four out of five to get it done.
And look, they were able to get it done. It
was the easy walk over win for them on Saturday.
But can they continue to get that? Yes, they are
absolutely the better team, but they've eliminated all of the
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margin for error. So a bad shooting night, a night
where someone is just off, not with the rotations, Look,
they can find themselves down and have to play in
an elimination game. And once you get to the elimination
state of the tournament, man, that's hard for anybody because
of depression, those things. But it's they're the better team
given the sizeable leaves that they've been able to build
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in each game. But do they have enough toughness to
come back and finish this?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And you know, here's the thing with Boston. You don't
know who's gonna beat you. And this is almost like
a history of the Boston Celtics. You know, way back
when when they were rolling for championships. You don't know
who's going to come off the bench and beat you.
And yesterday was Peyton Pritchett. He's scored twenty three points.
That was a team high. He had five to ten
for three. So okay, no one expected Peyton Pritchett to
be the guy to put the dagger in the Knicks yesterday,
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but he did. Okay, certainly, you are Jason Tatum at nineteen, Okay,
there's no BD and Jalen Brown scoring. You get those
guys are going to get their points. And if you're
playing defense, you got to say, look, I'll give them
their points. I don't want a guy like Pritchard to
beat me. That's the key if you're the coach and
saying you know that Tatum's going to get his twenty
twenty five, Jalen Brown's gonna get his twenty twenty five. Okay,
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that's a given. But for Peyton Pritchett to come off
the bench he scored twenty three, that's a no.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That should never happen.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Look, I mean it shouldn't happen. I mean, but you
talked about it. You talked about how they're built, the
way they're constructed. I mean, they have the perfect team
on paper in terms of the depth the talent who
they have. I mean, you talk about Drew Holliday and
Derek White and just so many guys that they can
come Pritchard, Who's six Men of the Year. They can
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hit you in waves and waves and we haven't even
seen Porstingus play consistently in this series. I mean, they
just have so many bodies, talented players that can shoot
the three ball, that can put it up. They just
stretch your defense. They just make it very, very difficult
for you. And because of their willingness to basically play
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with the math equation right, knowing that threes and twos
you can't keep up. You can't hit enough twos to
stay with someone who is consistently.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Knocking down threes, and.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
When they're hot, they blow you out the gym. The
only chance that you have against them is if they're
not making their three pointers. We saw Orlando did a
really good job in that series of running them off
the line, not letting them shoot threes make and they contested,
or making them put the ball on the floor and
go to the hole. The only way you can knock
off the ceales you got to eliminate some of the
three pointers that they're knocking out.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You know, you're exactly right. And I'm here. I heard
a commentary yesterday and I was in the car listening
to the radio. I almost drove off the road because
one of the people on the commentary was saying that
these are great games. These playoff games are great. I mean,
it's great talent. And I'm saying to myself, what are
you watching? What are you watching? You know, these guys
when they took forty five threes, that's not great basketball.
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You know, I don't know what you've seen. I don't
know what you've seen in the past. This is not great.
It's Look, they are two miserable shooting games. Hoping the
series the Celtics did yesterday, they had six of the
first seven threes to open the game. Change your offense,
you know, but they live and die by the three.
And if I'm playing defense against them, I realized they're
not going to go inside. It's all three point games.
And honestly, I don't think that's great basketball. I mean,
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if you think it's great basketball, good for you. I mean,
I'm not going to change your mind the right It's
like politics, you want to root for this guy, that's fine.
You for this party, that's fine. But to me, I'm
a guy that loved the Golden State Warriors when Steph
is healthy, because they're passing the ball three four times
before they take a shot, all right, I don't like
seeing a guy coming down there and taking a twenty eight.
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Got a response for their ANBA wrote. I wrote to
the commissioner, said you should have a designated three a
designated player that shoots threes, because I think the three
point shot is ruining the game. You know, one person
said yesterday on the airwaves, I was listening, we'll move
the three point shot back further. They're shooting it for
almost half court now. Anyway. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, it's crazy. I don't think you can take that away.
It's a part of it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think what people have to do defensively, you got
to adapt and adjusts. We've seen teams do it. We've
seen the team adopt less stringent rules when it came
to hand to hand combat and hand checking into those things.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And in the playoffs we've had a much more enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Game because it's been a little more contentious, a little
more physical in those things.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
But but look, if a team elects.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
To kind of run counter to what everyone else has
been doing, that's gonna be problematic. And what happened is
when the Warriors had their success where they had their
run where they won those championships with Kad and Steph
and all of that, it led others to try to
adopt that style. Whatever were gonna shot a bunch of threes,
they're gonna.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Wear you out. The math equation.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The Celtics have just lived in it and taken it
to the next degree, shooting fifty and sixty threes in
a game, and when they're hitting at that rate, I mean,
you just can't keep up. You can't keep up. And
so that's what it is. So we talk about living
and dying by the three. They're like, look, it's not
what our coaches from yesteryear wanted, but there are a
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lot of coaches that feel like, if they got the shooters,
why not take advantage of the weapon that is a
three ball.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I get it. The game has changed, There's no doubt
in my mind the game is changed. I don't know
if it's changed for it better, but it's changed. I
love it. I love the game, but I go back,
and I keep on remembering back, and maybe you don't
remember this. Probably do remember the ABA, the American Basketball Association,
and they had the three. They're the ones that invented
the three, and the NBA stole it from the ABA
when the merger was the merger was like in sixty seven,
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sixty eight, whoever it may have been, I don't remember,
but they had big guys and they didn't live and
die but a three. They had the big guys. They
had Doctor j and that league they had Artist Gilmore
in that league. They had big guys, and they moved
the ball inside and they used the three every now
and again when needed. They never threw up forty five
threes in one game, So I don't know when and
if that changed. Maybe the shooters are better than now.
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Perhaps they are. They have some great shooters back then
in the abaight, there's no doubt. But they didn't live
and die but a three, and now they do. And
I don't think that's basketball, I really don't. I mean,
come down the court, just heave it up. And again
we saw what happened in this series when they missed
the threes. They lose where they make the threes, they win.
That's it. That's not basketball on my mind.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, but I think the difference is a lot of
it is and I pointed to the go to say Warriors,
but a lot of it is understanding your personnel. If
you have the personnel that can shoot the three and
shoot the three efficiently and capably, then you have an
opportunity to really take advantage of it. So we can
talk about the Celtics losing two of those games, but
in every game they've built sizeable leads because of the
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flurry of threes knocking down, and it's something that can
kind of just put you in a severe hole as
the opponent because of the way they shoot it, the
proficiency in which they shoot it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It's problematic. Now every team isn't built.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Like the Celtics and means that they shouldn't use that
strategy because they don't have the personnel that can thrive
in a three ball extensive or exclusive offense. But for them,
they absolutely can do it, and they've shown you. They
won a championship doing it last year and they're on
the way to maybe winning another one this year if
they can get past the pesky Knicks.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I hear what you're saying, and I hear you saying
that you live with die but a three. But here's
my question, And Joe mizoul is the coach of the
Bust and Celtics. When they had that game and they
saw the lead dwindle away in the second game when
they were up and they missed forty five threes and
they took forty five threes, that is why didn't he
call a time out and change the offense. It's not working,
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the ball's not falling. Why not go inside? Give the
ball of persingas inside he could shoot, get him in
the paint.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
That's not his game.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Like one of the things that I respect by him,
like you play how you play, and your style doesn't change,
doesn't waiver. And they are a team that they live
by the three and die by the three. Well if
some of those games, they gonna die by it because
their approach has been very successful for Joe Missoula since
he's taken over. It's been successful since the franchise. Look
at the banner that they hung a year ago. Why change?
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We are who we are. This is the way that
we play and good, bad and different. We're going to
continue to stick to the brand. I actually appreciate that,
because what happens is if you start trying to do
things that one you're not prepared to do, two you
don't have the personnel to do it, it doesn't work.
You can talk about per sing is going on the
block because he's seven to three, but he doesn't have
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an inside game.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
He's a seven to three jump shooter, so there's nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's how they built. They're all in on this strategy,
and I'm okay with them burning the bows and saying, oh,
this is how we play and we're not changing.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know what, then the Knicks have to do something
defensively to stop that three and play tougher defense, because
they didn't. They didn't play tough defense yesterday. They really didn't.
And honestly, I think then this came out there realizing
that they fell behind, and honestly, how do you fell
behind by twenty in both games and win those games?
Right now they got to be saying to themselves, maybe
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we were lucky, Maybe we're lucky, because right now I
got to believe that this this some thought process in
their minds, like oh, here we go again, and you
talking about the Knick fans and I hate talking about fans,
because fans are crazy, they really are. And to talk
about the fans over the game itself, that's ridiculous too.
They're fans because your team is too zip over the
team that's defending world champs. You're happy, you're excited the
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games at home of Matters Square Garden. So now the
air is a little bit out of the balloon. But
they got another game in New York again, so they
still have a shot to go up three to one.
This is a big game for the Knicks right now.
They lose this when they go back to Boston, then
it's going to be all over, lights out.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean, yeah, it's a huge game for him, But look,
you can't make it more than what it is, like
seven game series. That's how you prepare for it. You're
playing for it to go seven games, but you got
to do the things necessary to get it to a
seventh game. For the next they got to continue to play.
I mean, the margin for erat the Boston Celtics are
a better team that was proven in the regular season.
For the Knicks to win, the Celtics have to help
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them out, and so the Knicks have to force the
Celtics to play a certain way to be able to
make the team the game competitive and give themselves a
chance to win in the fourth quarter. They weren't able
to do that on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And I think here's the bottom line in this series,
and forget about threes. Just talk about the weapons. I
think the Celtics have too many weapons. They have preached
yesterday came off the bench. That was a surprise. But
Tatum and those guys are the one two punch Tatum
at twenty two, Brown nineteen, and the Knicks only have
in my mind, Jalen Brunts, who's tremendous I love me
at twenty seven and the catman Karl Anthony Towns and
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that's it. And Towns was like ridiculous. He shot fly
for eighteen. So you got Towns and Brunts and basically,
you shut those guys down, you win the ball game.
That's it. That's basically what the Knicks have.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I mean, I mean, that's all. I mean, that's that's
all they have. And so they have to work with that.
They got to make sure that they try and find
a way to maximize their personnel and their talent. And
if you're looking at the series and we're saying that
of the twelve quarters that they played, let's say the
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Celtics have won ten or eleven of them. That's the truth.
That's who they are. The Celtics are the better team.
The Knicks have to find a way to make the
game be played on their terms, and right now they
haven't been able to control the game consistently to get
the Celtics to play the way that they want the
Celtics to play as opposed to the way the Celtics
want to play.
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All right for the Cowboys, This was long overdue. That's
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of your screen. Now, the big story, I think it
came out yesterday, is that Derek Carr was at thirty
four years of age, he started one hundred and sixty
nine games for two teams. He's left the New Orleans Saints.
He's called back and he's gone right now because he's
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dealing with that shoulder injury throughout the UF season and
rather than getting surgery and missing the entire twenty twenty
five season, he says, I'm gonna call it quits. Look,
he could have got money, he could have stayed there,
got the surgery. But obviously I got to believe that
he was just tired, tired of playing for the New
Orleans Saints. He had it up to here, said you
know what, enough's enough. I'm leaving Boom. That's it. But
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the door is open now, Bucket Brooks. For quarterbacks, who's
going to be the quarterback on the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It's gonna be one of the three guys that they
currently have on the roster. Uh, Tyler Shutt, Spencer Ratler
or Jay Cayner. I mean, that's it. That's why they
drafted Spencer, I mean Tyler shut in the second round.
That was the big controversy. They took him. They believed
in him. They believe that he is a guy who
has pro ready potential in tools and so that's why
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he went off the board. So my expectation is that
Tyler Shutt is in line to be the starting quarterback
for the New Orleans Saints this season.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Okay, so you're saying that a rookie out of the
University of louis I think theave Oregon and louis he's
going to be that.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Corgan Louisville and Texas Tech.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Seven year college.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Player must be nice. Really, you go to three different colleges.
They don't how many credits he had his transfer for
one suit to another. But that's another story. However, I'm
saying that's not the case. I think Aaron Rodgers right
now now is another option. Kirk Cousins now is an option.
We'll see what out. Maybe they'll trade. I don't know
if they're going to trade, but I think Aaron Rodgers
right now the door is open because he's still waiting
for Pittsburgh to make a decision and they haven't said anything.
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So I think Aaron Rodgers right now has an option,
and who knows. I think he may end up in
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I haven't heard that, but I mean maybe. I mean,
like everything is on the table. I think they would
probably like to proceed as they're presently constructed. That's why
they look, That's why they used the draft pick on
Tyler Shut and those other guys to want to create
a competition and go and if all the conversation has
been Tyler Ship, we believe you're the guy.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We believe that you're ready.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Because they knew the entire time what Derek Carr was
dealing with as it related to his shoulder, and they
drafted Tyler Shop with the thought in mind that maybe
he's going to be the starting quarterback this year, either
due to injury with Derek Carr, or he is a
much better player for what Kevin Moore wants to do.
We don't know, but now that Derek Carr is ex
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to the stage left, this is a great opportunity for
all these young guys to have a chance to play.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
If you think the New Orleans Saints are hurting for
a quarterback, let's go back to the Pittsburgh Steelers what
their roster looks like right now. Mason Rudolph and I
don't get it because when he played for Oklahoma State,
I love this guy. So he was on the Steelers.
Then he was a third string of two years ago.
And now they brought him back out of free agency
because he was on the Titans, and obviously they didn't
think much of him because he was so bad. They
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drafted a quarterback for number one. So cam Ward's their guy.
So Mason Rudolph's back in Pittsburgh. Skyla Thompson's a guy
who's been around, backing up a fourth season in the NFL.
And Will Howard sixth round pick out of Ohio State.
So they're in just as bad shape quarterback wise as
the New Orleans Saints, aren't they? So? I mean, and
Aaron Rodgers right now must be looking at chops.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I mean, he might be licking at shops. But then
here's what you gotta member, Aaron Rose will be forty two.
How many teams want to hitch your wagon to a
forty two year old player who was a descending player,
meaning he is not us and then getting better, he's
getting worse. And whatever we saw in New York the
last two years, one was he was injured too. Last
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year he didn't perform very well. He's more likely to
be like that player than the four time MVP that
he is. Who wants to sign up for that? How
is that going to help your franchise advance? There has
to be a sense of desperation if you want to
jump into Aaron Rodgers sweep six.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
All right. You know, I didn't even know why I'm
continually talking about Aaron Rodgers because every time I talk
about it, and I'm like, I got an indigestion. I
do I just do something about the guy, the anti
vaxxing of it. They're living in the cave. I mean
it just something about him just really turns me off.
I know he's a Hall of Famer, but you know,
stay on the football field, Aaron. That's all I care about. However,
I talked about the Dallas Cowboys. They struck a deal
with the Steelers on Wednesday and they send the third
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round pick to Pittsburgh for wide receiver George Pickens. First
of all, losing pickensmy the fact that here we go again,
Aaron Rodgers decision maybe to play for the Steelers because
he won't have a top notch receiver out there, but
for the Cowboys and I said, it's long overdue. All
of a sudden, Now CD Lamb has a running mate,
which I think he needed. Now that's great, And you
got to believe that the quarterback in situation now in
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Dok Prescott in Dallas, he's got to be a real
hobby right now, he's got a legit, a legit guy,
a number two guy to go along with cde Lamb.
They got to be happy.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I mean, let's talk about it from the Dallas
Cowboys point of you first, and then we go back
to the Pittsburgh For the Cowboys, they were looking for
another receiver to put around Dak Prescott to alleviate the
pressure on Ceedee Lamb being the number one having to
be the guy that the ball always goes to in
the clutch. They really wanted to balance it out so
they can allow Dak Prescott to be at his best.
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And when you look at what Dak Prescott was able
to do at his best, they had multiple receivers.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
On the field that could win their one on one battles.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
George Pickens is the vertical stretch guy. Ceedee Lamb is
a catch and run guy. Jake Ferguson does his work
over the middle. Well, now you look up with that
repaired offensive line, they can transition into being a team
that throws it a little more with Dak Prescott kind
of being the driving force of the offense. We'll see
how this plays out. But that was the reasoning behind
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the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Making a move.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And for the Steelers, I've learned to trust the Steelers
that whenever they move off a wide receiver, they're moving
off of them a year too early as opposed to
a year too late. Their track record says that because
all the receivers that were big time players that they
traded or let out the building, they've all faltered from
Antonio Brown, martebs Bryant. You just think about Mike Wallace,
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on and on and on, Like there's been a list
Deontay Johnson, they've been a list of when they move
on from you, they they're moving on at the right time.
And so we'll see how George Pickens handles this, because
he's had some immaturity issues that have prevented him from
fully maxing out on the player that he could be.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I'm so glad you brought that up. First of all,
I think, isn't George Pickens the one that came to
a game at one time late he said he got
stuck in traffic and he was like chewing on like
twizzlers and stuff like that, and then he was taking
like videos in the locker room after a ballgame and
put it on social media. I mean, he has some
problems there. So I think that you talk about guys
that they've moved on from, Let's look at these guys
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they moved on from. You mentioned a couple of Antonio Brown,
Mike Wallace. The only one that I think that had
a little bit of success after he left the Steelers
and they dumped them was Plexico Burris because he won
the Super Bowl with the Giants. Other than that, I
mean even Juju Smith, Schuster, Santonio Holmes. They have the
tendency of moving on guys who have become not not
great players, but problems, you know, problems, personality problems, and
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they just cut them and let them go. And I'm
telling you right now, it's not gonna be too long
before George Pickens has a problem in Dallas, not so
much playing the game. Talent wise, He's not gonna like
the fact that he's gonna be a number two guy
behind cdee lamb.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Maybe. I mean it's all relative. He's saying all the
right stuff now, but.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We won't see those issues pop up.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Until he has games where he doesn't touch the ball.
He's not a significant factor in the game plan and
those things.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Right now, everything is hunky dorit.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
The talent is the talent, and the talent is intoxicating
because he has.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The talent to be the top ten receiver. It's Justin Maddick,
and he.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Stayed locked in and focus enough to realize his potential.
We'll get a chance to see that because he only
has one year left on his deal in Dallas, and
how he performs will ultimately determine how they pay him
and how well they paid.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I do want to defend George Pickten's right now. You
mentioned he's got talent. He's got a world of talent.
He really does. However, don't blame him for this lack
of production because he had to play with guys like
can He Pickett, Mitch Trubitsky, Nason Rudolph By, Russell Wilson,
and Justin Fields. Okay, I understand that he was heard
at times a little bit, but he was playing with
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kind of like b rated quarterbacks at times. That's the
problem I believe.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I mean, look, he certainly didn't have the best collection
of quarterbacks tossing on the ball, but we've seen others succeed.
DeAndre Hopkins has become a legend without having an elite quarterback,
So some of that is on the player more so
than the thrower. And I understand the days that he
would get frustrated by not touching the ball because he's
one of the best players that they had and they
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need to make sure that he always has a presence.
He always is a guy that's in the game plan.
The stealers didn't consistently do that, which is why he
would kind of act out. And it's also why, after
much thought and consideration, they decided to move on. Let
them go to a place that might be better for him,
and they may be better off. Ten.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
They have DK Metcalf in the building right and they.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Trained it for DK Metcalf in the offseason, so getting
wit rid of pickings is not really the biggest surprise
for Steeler fans right now, So we'll see what happens
over there. But honestly, without a quarterback, they're in bad shape.
And I don't know why it's taken so long. Is
that a situation that the Steelers have decided or Aaron
Rodgers is still up in the air saying I don't
know what I want to do. I just cannot see
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Aaron Rodgers getting along and meshing with Mike Tomlin. I
just can't see that. Thomas a disciplinarian and Aaron Rodgers
beats to his own drum.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Look, Mike Tomlin has shown that he can get along
with several types.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Of players, and I am not surprised at him.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Being able to do it. It's just a matter of
him being very clear and direct when it comes to
what he expects, what he wants, and how they should perform.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And if he gets that.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Connection with the player, then look that they tend to
play very very well for him. But a lot of
it is because he's such an excellent communicator that it
works out well for him.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Okay, and we have a sound bite from the general
manager of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Omar Khan, talking about that
move that he made the other day with George Pickners.
Let's take a lookst into the big old Omar Khan
from the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
No, we just kind of talked him, you know, lots
of serious conversation on his conversations, and he just felt
that a fresh start for both sides was the right thing.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, he really, and I'm gonna translate what he really
meant to say. We couldn't wait to get rid of him.
He was a bit of a problem. He was a nuisance.
Good luck to him, and God bless you be on
your way and don't hit let the door hit you
on the way out.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I mean, I don't know if he said it like that.
I think he just as he said. They reached a
conclusion that it was best for both parties if they separated,
And good luck to George. Georgia have an opportunity to
go and do his thing and get his money. And
you know, we feel good about having DK Metcalf. Remember
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when they got DK Metcalf and a trade and then
they paid him immediately. You're not gonna have two thirty
million dollars white receivers on the perimeter. That's just not
it's just not gonna happen. So it's one of those
things that we knew and we anticipated and they took
care of it.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
So it works.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Well, we'll see what happens, all right. Now, one last thing,
It looked at the Cowboys before they made this trade
of pickings. I looked at them, wife, I never heard
of these guys, Jalen Tolbert, Jonathan Mingo, Cavante Turpin, Paris Campbell.
I mean, is any one of those guys? I mean,
are they anything to be riding home about?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I mean, look, I'm not going to disrespect them as players.
They certainly needed a higher end player around Dak Prescott.
They gambled on those guys. They had hoped that Ceedee
Lamb could do it, but he can't do it alone.
And this is a chance for those guys to just
like we talked about with Draymond Green and Steph Curry
and those guys. When Steph Curry's out, it forces guys
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to play roles that are not necessarily built for this
skill set.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Now, those guys can go back and.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Be wide receiver threes and fours as opposed to being
the number one or number two options in the passing game,
which was a role that none of those aforementioned guys
was necessarily built for.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
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it done. Ask Bucky right now and here we go.
Big story of the week right now is Pope Leo
the fourteenth?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
His brother says he's a White Sox fan, not a
Cubs fan. He's from Chicago. How might this affect his
popularity because he roots for the White Sox.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I mean, look, there are people that believe in in
the White Sox in those things. I've think White Soux
are Southside, right and so like to look at won't
affect this popularity some It just is unusual because most
of the people that rock with Chicago, they rock with
the Cubs. I would think, I.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Know, it's really funny the headline in the Chicago sometimes
the other day when he was appointed, when the white
Smoke came out, the Bears, you know, the Bears the Pope.
That was the headline, Da polp the Pope. All right, now,
Lucky Brooks. The best Mother's Day gift that you could
give to your mama? What would it be.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
The best Mother's Day gift?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
At this stage, I would say probably it's gonna sound impersonal,
but I would say, like probably a gift card to
let her get whatever she wanted to get. My brother
and I typically compete in various ways when it comes
to like baking and cooking and those things. I think
my brother's gonna take care of the baking part. I'm
gonna take care of the cash.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Oh well, all right, there we go. Here's a question.
You're in the University of North Carolina Tarhel grad. Does
Bill Belichick's girlfriend, Jordan Hudson does she help or hurt
the North Carolina football program.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I think ultimately she helps the program because there's been
more attention on the program, even though people are talking
about his bad attention in those things. Carolina football has
never been in the headlines more than since Bill Belichick
has taken over. Ultimately, she has to be placed in
a role that really suits her skills. But yeah, the controversy,
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the romance between he and her and all that.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Like.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
It's led to more attention on the program, which is
ultimately a good thing.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You're gonna like this now. Okay, but several weeks ago,
the Cincinnati Inquirer newspaper had a list of the All Stars,
the all Star football program in the greatest Cincinnati area.
And they got some great football teams here, Molo High School,
Saint X, whatever it may be. I sent it out
to Belichick. Okay, he appreciated that. He wrote me a
car He thanked me. And two days ago in the
Cincinnati inquire I see that they signed the kid from
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Mola High School, which is great. So maybe I helped
a little bit. I don't know. I don't think so well,
you never know. But he thanked me, he sent me
a card. So I'm happy. So you should be happy
because in North Carolina's whatever, top notch kid from Mola
High School playing for the tar Heels. Now, so we
move on.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh, look, I appreciate that I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
The best, and I am. I love Billy and I
don't like what they're doing to him with this book thing.
Leave him alone. Just stop it already, please, Draymond Green.
Now he says he's portrayed as a quote angry black man.
Is that true? I don't think so, is it?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I mean I think sometimes I think sometimes the imagery
and those things play into stereotypes or whatever.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
So I wouldn't say.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Maybe it's deliberate or intentional, but subconsciously, when you always
see Draymond, the clips that they choose are him being
in conflict and sometimes as a black man, he's just
kind of feeling like they never show him smiling or
being the happy, go lucky Draymond, which kind of plays
into the stereotypes.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Okay, I don't want to rate these holidays best to worse. Christmas, Thanksgiving,
Mother's Day, Father's Day.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
That's to us. You can't pick the parents.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Some say Christmas, then Mother's in, Father's Day is a tie,
and anything else after that.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
There we go. All right, the tops in the NFL,
Bucky Brooks hasn't for you, and so much more right here.
Fox Sports Radio Sonday coming up next. Take a look
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This is Fox Sports Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. We're
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some Andy Furman and Buck. We're getting ready to go
on Mother's Day right now. I guess you're gonna take
a little rest, clean up, and have a big day
with family today with mom.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, no, it should be. It should be a fun day.
Mom is back in North Carolina. I'm out here in Cali,
so I won't get a chance to uh directly you
hang out, but we'll FaceTime. We'll do some stuff and
i'll see him in a few weeks when I go home.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
We'll have a happy Mother's Day to you when you
were today. But you know what, I want to go
back a little bit before we get into this heavy
duty football stuff that you did on NFL dot Com,
which I love, which is great, it really was. We'll
get into that in a second, but you know, we
talked about the playoffs right now, and you made a
great point early on. We talked about the Celtics and
you know, and they missed it when they took forty
five threes in Game two and they were like horrendous.
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They just but they didn't move from their philosophy. That's
their game. And if you look under behind the curtain,
Joe Mizzoula, the Celtics coach. They become a three point
shooting kid. That's what they do. They live and die
by it. During the regular season, the Boston Celtics average
forty eight threes attempts. Again, they made seventeen, most in
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NBA history. The Celtics had three players with at least
this is unbelievable, with at least two hundred may three
pointers White, Pritcher, and Jason Tatum, and Tatum at two fifty,
Pritchet at two fifty five. It's unbelievable. So basically, they're
not gonna they're not gonna move from that. That's what
they do. They live and die by it, and that
that's their philosophy. And they've had such you can't not
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the success did the defending World champs. So the Knicks
need to know when we face the Celtics, that's what
they're doing. They're not going inside. You hit it right
on the head. Borzingis may be seven feet tall, but
he shoots. He shoots the three as well. He's not
a post player really, he doesn't play on the blocks.
He's on a team that basically lives and dies by.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I mean, that's what he does, and that's what they're
gonna continue to do. They're gonna live and die by
the three They believe in it. They've excelled by doing it,
and it's one of the things that you're just gonna
have to know when you're rocking with them, like they
are a three ball team, and if you're not able
to defend the three ball, then it's gonna be problematic.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
All right, let's get into your meeting potatoes right now,
which is basically the NFL. And I love this because
you basically say the NFL free agency is basically done
and now the roster is complete. I can't believe I
have the practice sessions are going on already. I mean,
the NFL is just right around the corner. Never ends.
This Wednesday, they got the news conference for the schedule release.
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We'll see what happens now. But you did a little
study on the best aerial attack because basically that's the
biggest way teams score right now, the run game is returned,
but they live and die obviously by the game passing
the ball in the air. And you had the best
pass catching groups in the NFL and you got the
top eight. I'm not gonna tell anybody right now until
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we finish basically, which is number one. But it interests
me because you will have rating the quarterbacks in these group,
and I want to know who was more important in
this situation? Is it the receiver? Does he make the
quarterback or does the quarterback make the receiver? Because the
list surprised me in the sense because you had the
Minnesota Vikings up there. I'm not going to tell anybody
what ranking you had, then we'll do that later on.
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But you had JJ McCarthy up there, and I don't
think he's a proven quarterback yet in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
He's not. But if we talk about quarterbacks coming in
two different categories, they come as trucks where they are
the person that carries the offense, or trailers where the
offense and supporting cast carries them. JJ McCarthy, we fall
into the trailer where he needs the supporting cast of
the Minnesota Vikings to carry him. But I would say
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that wide receiver corp is built to carry a young
quarterback and experienced quarterback. Elevated quarterback. They elevated Sam Darnold
last year, why wouldn't they be able to do the same.
Look they wanted the best when it comes to Jordan Edison,
Justin Jefferson, TJ. Hockinson, they can get down and so
I look, I think they're wanted the best in the business.
I expect JJ McCarthy to play really, really well because
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all he has to do is be a point guard.
It doesn't have to do too much, doesn't have to
get outside himself and be a playmaker. He can just
manage the game and have a lot of success.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
To this team, okay, without any order, and we'll get
to the order later on. As I mentioned, let's know,
with the team that's near and dear to my heart
bigger as they're right in my backyard. It's all about
the Cincinnati Bengals, okay, and they I believe that the
signing of Jamar Chase and T Higgins Chase four years,
one hundred and sixty one mil, t Higgins four years,
one hundred and fifteen mil. I believe that the Bengals basically, look,
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these guys are great players, although t Higgins I think
is injury prone. But I do believe that it was
a situation the fans pushed the organization to do this.
It would have been a real mad situation if they
didn't do that. I think Joe Burrow, the quarterback, had
a lot of with that too, don't you think. I mean,
they're great players, but I think that they think they
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could have lived without one of them. Maybe.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
No, no, no, no, no no. Why would you break that up?
Why would you break it up when it's so good? Remember, man,
you want to make sure that you do no defense. Yeah,
but just getting to be middle of the pack on
defense and bringing your offense down doesn't help you get
closer to a championship.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
You want to be great on one side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
They have an opportunity to be great on offense with
T Higgins and Jamar Chase and Mike Kasiki all signed
to these blockbuster deals, and they're putting the onus on
Joe Burrow too. Every time the Cincinnati Bengals show up
in the stadium, the expectation should be that they're gonna
score thirty plus points.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
And it's a lot easier to play.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Defense when your team puts thirty on the board and
you only have to generate two to three stops per game.
What would have hurt the Bengals is you remove T Higgins.
Now Jamar Chase has to do everything they can double
team him because there's not a viable option on the
other side. Now, I would say part of the reason
why they had to resign T Higgins is because the
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guy that they may have drafted to replace him, Jermaine Burton,
has not been able to do what he needed to
do off.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
The field so he can get on the field and
be productive.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
That also made it where they had to sign T
Higgins because they don't have reliable options behind those guys.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Okay, and I get it because as good as Jamar
Chase is and when you win the Triple Crown, I
don't think there's been a lot of hoopla about that,
but that's tremendous. When you lead the league in receptions,
receiving guards and touchdowns, which he did, you have to
have a guy to kind of take a little pressure
off of as a number two guy. And that's basically
what T Higgins is. Very similar to why maybe the
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Dallas Cowboys got George Pickens because they take a little
pressure off the number one guy. Ceedee lamb. You gotta
have another guy. You have to have a running.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Mate, oh one like you have to have that in place,
like that needs to be a big part of what
it is that you're doing and what you're counting on
and all that other stuff, and we'll see how they
able to get it done, what they're able to do
with it in those things. But I look, I expect
them to be very prolific on offense, and I've spent
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them be a much better team. Last year was a
bit of an aperition because as bad as it was,
they still almost work their way back into the postseason.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
They got to start the season better. That's the key.
I mean, forget about the players on the roster. You know,
you start the season and you dig yourself a whole
at an opening day, you lose to the worst team
in the league in the New England Patriots. It's not
a good start. There were like one in four I
believe at the speaginning of the season, and they have
a tendency of starting the season that way. Is that
because they're not playing their regulars in preseason or I
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don't know, there's gotta be a reason why the team
gets up to a slow start. I don't know. I
don't know why they do that.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Some of that does have to do with them not.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Playing their guys consistently, in the preseason, they get off
to slower starts and so they're not they're not coming
out of the gate fast in those things, and you
got to come out fast if you're going to be
able to compete at the highest level. And they're way
seeing opportunities early because look, they.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
They're kind of like operating.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
On their different thing, like a little load management, not
all the other stuff that they could be doing to
put themselves in a position to get after.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
We'll give them a pass because last year Jamar Chase
was kind of hungry for a contract and he showed
up at practice, but he didn't practice because he didn't
want to be fine, he's on the sidelines, not in uniform,
and I think that in a sense may have sent
some shock waves to the team. And you know, I
think a lot of things, you know, disrupt teams. You
know that you played the game, and I think that
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had a factor on why this team was not basically
all in so to speak when the season started.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
That definitely has something to do with it. Like I
would say that if the Bengals had taken care of
business early year when it comes to the contract, yeah,
they would have had more success.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
They would save money. They would save some money too.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I look, I'm with you. I agree,
Like they would have been able to do all of
that stuff. They just haven't been able to for whatever reason,
they didn't make it happen. So it look, it's an issue,
but they got it done. They're beyond it now and
so now they can kind of move forward.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Okay, Jim R. Chase a great player play at LSU.
That's what Joe Burrow played. You could laugh at me
if you want, but I want to ask you this question.
Would T Higgins and Jamar Chase be as good as
they are with either A without Joe Burrow or B
on another team with a different quarterback.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Look, it's hard.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Joe Burr is one of the best quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
You're always going to benefit from having a great quarterback
slinging the ball to you. And I would anticipate them,
you know, having success with anybody. But look, it ain't
gonna be to the level of what they were having
with Joe Beazy, like Joe Burrow special and that they
need him, you know, to be able to kind of
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dial it up for him. So, yeah, they're in a
nice situation. They're benefiting from playing with him. But I'm
not gonna dismiss what they are, you know what I'm saying,
just because Joe Burrow is slinging the bold right.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I thought about the Philadelphia Eagles right now. I'd love
to see Joe Burrow play behind the line like the
Philadelphia Eagles has though a big six to eight three
hundred pounders that's basically what he needs. But you had
the Philadelphia Eagles right up there with a great pass
catching situation Devonte Smith, AJ Brown, and you really, you know, honestly,
you almost don't think about their receivers as much. They're
overshadowed by Sakuon Barkley in a great defense.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Yeah, it's funny, right because, like I thought that when
Kellen Moore took over, that they were gonna be throwing
it all over the yard and that wasn't gonna play
to the strengths of their team, which is their office
in line to run a game and a dual threat
ability that Jalen Hurts presents. But they found a way
to do both. They ran the football effectively and then
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they rely on AJ Brown and Devonte Smith to make plays.
Both of these guys are capable of being number one
receivers for any team, but they have sacrificed their own
numbers to make sure that the team is very, very successful.
But make no mistake, man, they are very difficult to
defend because they have so many weapons on perimeter to
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compliment what they're able to do in the run game.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
And I would say this, I would say A. J.
Brown and DeVante Smith are two of the receivers that
make Jalen Hurts. I mean, Jalen Hurts I don't think
is on the same plateau as Joe Burrow, but I
think you think he is.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Uh. I'm not saying that, but I'm just listening. I'm
just listening.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Taking Brow. I'm not saying he's head and shoulders above
Jalen Hurts, but he's a better quarterback than If I
had a choice of either one of my team, I'm
taking Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
What about you, Nah, I get that I would take
Joe Burrow. I mean, we're talking about Joe Burrow, top
five quarterback. I think Jalen Hurts is knocking on the door.
I mean, we can say a lot of things about
him and stylistically or whatever, but we've seen this guy
lead his team to two Super Bowls. We've seen him
out play Pat Mahomes on the big stage and he's
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earned a Super Bowl MVP. Look, it may not be
classic textbook exactly how you want it, but it's hard
to knock what he's been able to bring to the
table as a second round pick who has become a
franchise quarterback in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
But he's at a better personnel in total than the
Cincinnati Bengals, and Joe Burrow was at better personnel defensive
side of the ball, great defense, really better protection in
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
A little bit. But yeah, but I think yeah, but
Joe Burrow came in as the number one overall pick.
Jalen Hurst was the second round pick. No one expecting
him to ascend to this level. That was the expectation
for Joe Burrow. He came in as the number one
overall pick because he was viewed as a franchise savior. Yeah,
the supporting cast around jalen Hurst has been phenomenal. But look,
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jaalden Hurst has created an unstoppable play in the tush push.
Jalen Hurst has put the ball in the paint a
ton as a runner and has become a very competent
and effective passer.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
On the landscape or the hierarchy of quarterbacks, he would
be above Jalen Hurst. But Jalen Hurts also has stuff
that Joe Burrow doesn't have as a super Bowl champion
and as a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Was it Peyton man I read this somewhech maybe it
can help me out. Someone a retired quarterback said publicly
that Joe Burrow should, in fact could, in fact win
five Super Bowls? Was that Peyton? I think Peyton Manning
said that about Joe Burrow, And I'm wondering, like, if
in fact, Joe Burrow becomes a free agent and he's
not winning a super Bowl in Cincinnati, would he jump.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
He's won, He's never becoming a free agent.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
You don't see those quarterbacks ever become a free agent.
Like he's more likely to retire than become a free agent.
So yeah, I don't think that's in the cars.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
But I do think it would be a shame if
he never won at least one super Bowl with his talent,
it will be a shame.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Yeah, I'm with you, like you would like to see
him win, but they don't get those things away like
it's hard to win. It's hard to win titles. You know,
a lot of things have to go your way. Yeah,
a lot of things have to go your way forward
to work out.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
We'll see what happened. Okay, we touched on the Minnesota Vikings.
You have them in your list's top pass receiving ball clubs.
JJ McCarthy's kind of repeat of the remodeling. As you
mentioned the offensive line. But they do have Justin Jefferson,
great player, Jordan Madison, and they're tight end. TJ. Hutkinson soays,
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these guys really help. I mean again, Sam Donald basically
was thrown out of New York. He was booed at
the media pushed him out of there, and he had
a career year in twenty twenty four. So I think
those guys had a lot to do with the success
and the resurgence, if you will, of Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
Yeah, I mean, look a lot of it. You know, Sam,
We can talk about it like the stability and those
things like that. Sam Donald needed to be able to
take his game to another level. And when we talk
about all quarterbacks, I think sometimes when we talk about quarterbacks,
we act as if they operate in a silo by themselves.
But the reality is they have to have everything around
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them to play at that level. Offensive line, playmakers and
all that. So it's all part of the mix. You
got to make sure that when you identify the right quarterback,
that you surrounded with the right.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Pieces that elevates his game.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
And what we've seen on some of these lists and
some of these people like you got playmakers that do.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
That football and you play the game and you know this,
I mean, it's nothing new. It is the ultimate team game.
I mean in basketball, if you got a guy that
averages forty five a game, there's a good chance you
could win, although you probably need that big three thing
to win big time in the NBA, but you could win.
At least in the college game. We saw that would do.
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They got one big man, you win. But football is
the ultimate team game, like almost like a chain lean fence.
Everybody does their part. However, you know, as far as
fans are concerned, and even immedia to some extent, it's
all about the quarter and I don't think that's fair
for the quarterback. I mean, the quarterback could only be
as successful as his offensive line, the running game, the
passing game, whatever it may be, and we've seen that,
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but the quarterback gets so much hype and so much
responsibility and so much blame. Blame as well as success
factor as well, but so much blame. When you talk
about the MVP trophy, it's always quarterback, the MVP of
the Super Bowl, it's always the quarterback. The quarterback, that's everything.
It's all seted around him. But it's a team game.
It's like a chain link fence. If one goes down
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the offensive line, you're in bad shape. And that's when
we've seen that. But unless you're a student of the
game like you Bucket Brooks, I mean, the average Joe
doesn't think that way.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
I mean, look, they get a lot of hype, they
get a lot of acclaim and all this stuff, and
some of that is deserved. But I mean, there's much
more to the game than quarterback. And uh, there's more
to building a championship team than having the quarterback. You
have to have a team. The teams that went ultimately
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have the best team. But the quarterback is a big
piece because the quarterback is he only got to touch
the ball every time, and so his decisions matter, and
if he doesn't take care of the rock if he
doesn't make the plays that are there to be made,
it can be tough for a team to overcome it.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
All Right, We talked about the Minnesota Vikas JJ McCarthy
and basically, he's got these guys. They're gonna help him
make look good. Okay, because Sam Donald was running out
of New York with the Jets, very similar situation with
Baker Mayfield. He bounced around the league. People didn't think
he'd make it all of a sudden. Now he's right
there and at the top of the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Why he's got Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. I mean,
that's basically what they have helped make him look. He
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had the skill set, there's no doubt, but he needed
those guys to show people he could play and play
the game well. And he does and he's done real
well with Tampa.
Speaker 4 (57:52):
He has done real well with Tampa.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
And I don't want to dismiss Baker's talents and say
that they did everything for him.
Speaker 4 (58:00):
Ques number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (58:01):
He had success in Cleveland, had to bounce around a
little bit to find a situation that was right for
not only his skill set, but his personality and his swag,
and Tampa has.
Speaker 4 (58:11):
Been the right mix for him.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
He has been the perfect leader for them, the perfect
playmaker for him, and then the weapons that they put
around him has not only allowed him to flourish, but
it's allowed this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team to flourish, as
they've won four straight Division crowns and continue to be
one of the better offenses in football.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I will say this, you keep on mentioning the fact
that he's a number one picked the Dale. Number one pick,
in my mind, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be
a star. Wasn't Vinnie Testaverdi at number one pick and
he was a Heisman winner? What did he doan?
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't mean that, but it meant
it means. There's a significance to being the number one
overall pick, not only being recognized as being the best
player in the draft right because you're taking number one,
But what it means is, particularly as a quarterback, there
is an expectation that you are a franchise saver, that
we are we are able to take you, put you
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in the right environment, and that you can lead our
franchise to higher heights. You can say whatever you want
about Baker Mayfield and why went sideways in Cleveland. He
took a team that was in the dumps and got
them to the postseason, which is an expectation, a reasonable
expectation for number.
Speaker 4 (59:20):
One overall pick.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
And so I want to make sure I give him
his flowers because there is significance to being number one.
There's an expectation that you're supposed to meet. And I
would say that now that we're looking at Baker's career
in total, I think we can say that he has
met the standard of expectation when it comes to being
a number one overall pick. He just didn't meet it
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all in Cleveland, but he certainly is satisfied that expectation
in Tampa.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Okay, So now you're telling me that simply because cam
Ward is a number one pick with Tennessee, he's a
franchise saver or he should be. Well they hope he
gould be.
Speaker 3 (59:55):
Yeah, that's why you take him. Otherwise, take him number one.
You're taking them. You're taking him number one because the talent,
the tools, all that other stuff suggest that he's worthy
of being taken early. But then you've met him and
you believe that, Hey, if we hit your wagon to
this player. He is going to get us out of
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whatever mess that we're in because we're picking first.
Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
That's the expectation. Otherwise you would pass.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Okay, here's a situation which I find very funny. Normally,
that first pick, that first quarterback pick in the draft,
you read about him on a daily Baby. You haven't
heard squat about cam Ward. You have heard more about
your door Sanders over the last two weeks from the draft.
Then you heard about cam Ward. And he's probably going
to be really happy about that too, because he doesn't
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want that undue pressure. He probably doesn't want that. He's
probably tickled pig they're not talking and writing about him.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I would say this, I would say that cam Ward
is a dog. He is an alpha dog personality. He's
as competitive as it comes, and just because people are
not talking about him doesn't mean that he's not ready
to make it happen when it comes when he has
his opportunity to play. He is built to be a
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Tennessee Titans quarterback based on the similarities in his game
to me, to Steve McNair, and when Steve McNair was
the leader of that franchise first in Houston, at Tennessee. Man,
they had a ruggedness about him that was sparked by
the quarterback. Same thing I expect and see from cam Ward.
He's going to have a lot of success. But look,
I will say this and you kind of led us there.
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It is amazing how we are just enamored by the
clickbake status of Shoulder Sanders and that never have we
seen a fifth round pick Garner so much attention over
the course of the weeks after being drafted. So when
we thought Shoulder Sanders being drafted in the fifth round
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was an indictment on his talent or the people that
hated his game, was like, see, I told you he
definitely can't stop looking at it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Every time I look at the.
Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Stuff on x or Twitter or reels, Instagram, all this
it is all about Schrder Sanders and the star power
that he brings. Like him or not as a player. Man,
I've heard number one in Jersey sales already. People are
like they can't get enough of talking about him. The
haters and they sayers are all hitching their wagon to them.
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It's a very interesting thing because he has dominated all
of the draft coverage and even after the draft, he's
still the most dominant player or the biggest personality to
come out of the draft, which is why you don't
hear about the other guys, because all of our attention
is thrown into Cleveland and what is going to happen
with Shooter Sanders.
Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
It's unreal. We got a couple more teams to get to.
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let's move along now to the LA Rams. And I
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think more than anybody else involved with that pass catching situation,
not Matthew Stafford as much as they're coach Sam McVay,
who's I think an offensive genius.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
He's definitely an offensive genius, and he's been able to
do it a few different ways. When he first got
to LA, he had a bunch of interchangeable parts that
all work. At the time, it was Brandon Cooks, Robert
Woods and Cooper Cup and those guys could play any spot.
They were moving around. They were innovative when it came
to the jet, sweep, fly, sweet motion and all of that. Now,
as he's advanced with Matthew Stafford, their offense is a
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little different, but the success remains. And one of the
things that he has now with Cooper not but with
Pooka Nakua and DeVante Adams. He has two guys that
can share the marquee as wide receiver ones. And DeVante
Adams is an outstanding route runner, even though I would.
Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Say his games his game.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Has declined a little bit in terms of like, he's
not as fast as he was, he's not as explosive
dynamic as he was, but he's still a really good
football player. Sean mcvagh now has the ability to really
draw up winners that can allow these route runners to
get open.
Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
So Davanta Adams.
Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
On one side, the cool on the other side, who's
really an underrated athlete but a big body playmaker. They
have some weapons and they were Tyler Higbee and too
too at well, they're just a really really dynamic and
versatile wide receiver corps.
Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
All right, we move along right now. The Detroit lines.
Big questions right now, not so much personal wise, but
they lose Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator. Was it Ben
Johnson that made the offensive tick? Or was it the players?
Because not really all pro kind of guys. They got
to tight end Sam Laporter, but other than that, really
no big time all pro guys on the receiving end,
but maybe it was Ben Johnson. I've got it all done.
Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Yeah, No, it'd be interesting to see what just looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
And look, I had people in my comments mentioning, like,
how can you put them up there? I think you
got to give them credit, between Amara and Saint Brown
and Sam Laporter, both of those other Pro Bowl caliber players.
You look at the numbers that they've rung up, but
they've done in that offense, you can't dispute that. What
you worry about is can they continue under John Morton?
Can John Moore and continue to draw the things to
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put them in a position to play to their strips.
Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
That's look, that's what we have to wait and see about.
Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
But in terms of their talent and their impact, they
certainly deserve to be on that list, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
And I guess one of the teams that you put
up there, and I was really surprised you put the
Miami Dolphins in there. I know they got Tyreek Hill
and they got a jailing waddle, but other than that,
I just to it to me, it's just maybe because
he hasn't been healthy. I just don't know. I mean,
tell me more about this Miami Dolphins thing on why
you put them in the top eight of your top eight.
Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Oh, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
It's funny that you mentioned the too a thing because
that's the team, Like they were number eight. They were
just seem that I really struggled with the most in
terms of doing it. But if we're just talking about
them independent of the quarterback, how can you not put
to I mean, how can you not put tyreek Hill
and Jayden Waller and John Newsmith in there? Based on
the numbers and their impact. I mean you talk about
speechters on a perimeter and Heal and Waddle and then
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John new Smith has kind of got the found the
youth or rediscovered what made him really intriguing when he
played at Tennessee. Uh, it all works, and we can
say a lot of things about tour, but when Tua
is in the lineup, that offense operates differently than when
he's not in that lineup. So you got to give
him credit for those things. He's kind of a lynchpin
uh to the success of that team in that offense.
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
I will tell you this much. If you were have
asked me several years ago who was going to retire
first in the NFL, Derek Carr or Tua. I would
have said Tua, especially when he got knocked out that
he started taking jiu jitsu, I guess to be a
little more I mean flexible, whatever it may be. But
I thought two was gonna be on the shelf. I
really did. I'm really surprised it was Derek Carr before Tua.
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What about you?
Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
You know, injuries affect people differently, and I will say that.
You know, with Tua two, it was doggedly determined that
he was gonna play and that he wanted to play.
Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
He took all the precartions in those things, uh to
do it. Derek Carr is a little older Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I mean, obviously he's made significant money in this league
as a quarterback, and he just felt like the timing
was right for him. That decision is tough because everyone
has to figure out what's really really important to them
when it comes down to playing the game and win.
Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Its time to like hang him up.
Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
And for Derreck Carr, he didn't want to go through
the rigorous rehab that was going to be necessary to
come back and be the player that he.
Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I would say this, I think if Derek call was
playing on a championship team. He would have come back.
I really believe that. I think you play on a
team that basically has no chance to even finish five
hundred right now, and now they're even worse shape without him.
I think that that was a major factor, plus the injury,
of course, but they said, you know, why do it?
Screw it, I'm going to pack it in. We have
no chance of doing it anyway. I don't need the money.
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I don't want the money.
Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Oh well no, no, no, nold on know he.
Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Took some money. Now, he took. He took.
Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
He took ten million dollars. They worked at a settlement.
They worked at a settlement, and he took the money
before he got about debate. But yeah, he very easily
could have continued to go on and do their things.
But look, he felt like he was ready to get on,
as my college holds would say, his.
Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Life's work, and so he opted out.
Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
He's good, and you know, it'd be interesting to see
like how he plays this out going forward in terms
of like missing the game and all of that, because
I would say it's still a very abrupt retirement. But
he prioritized his health over everything, and that matters and
that matters to people, and so he made a decision
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that was best for him.
Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
All right, And this is the eighth team. And if
anybody wants to know the order of which Bucket Brooks
put them in, I'm not going to tell you that.
I'm not gonna waste your time. Go to NFL dot com,
click on the writer's NFL riters, see Bucket Brooks's beautiful picture,
and he'll give you the top eight. Now you had
the eighth team that you had what is Dallas Cowboys.
I guess George Pickens made the deal. I mean that
was the clincher right there, because they had only Cdee Lamb,
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who was a fourth time pro bowler. Now they got
George Pickens to kind of take a little pressure off cd.
So now you got the Dallas Cowb up there in
the top offense. We'll see what that Prescott could do
with two quality receivers.
Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Now, yeah, no that This would be fun to see
what he's able to do with two quality receivers. And
there I would say they're complementary in terms of their games.
Pickens will handle all the big play stuff. Ceedee Lamb
will be the guy that can do all the dirty
work over the middle, and they'll kind of see how
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they can operate. But I love the potential. It changes
a little bit in terms of how I see their
offense going. Before Pickens, I thought this was gonna be
kind of ground and pound Brian Schottenheimer stealing pages from
his dad's playbook Marty Ball. But now this may be
a little more balanced, a little more diverse, a little
more explosive offense that I was anticipating in Dallas as
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opposed to what I thought it.
Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Was going to be.
Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
All Right, now got a little bit of fun because
I said coming into this segment that now we know
why they're called fans. Right. We talked about your guy
and Mike I love him a should do or Sanders
love his daddy, Dion. And I hope this well in
the NFL. I really do. But a football fan is
suing the NFL for one hundred million dollars over quote,
severe emotional distress and trauma that he suffered when the
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former Colorado University quarterback Shud stand This unexpectedly dropped to
the fifth round of last month's draft. All Right in
a lawsuit filed on the first of May in the
US District Court for the Northern District of Georgia. Buffalo's
fan Eric Jackson alleged the NFL had violated the Sherman
Anti Trust Act for collusion and possibly violated the Civil
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Rights Act for race discrimination, as well as consumer protection
laws for misrepresenting the nature of the drafting process and
the qualifications of players. This guy's out of his mind,
but he's a crazy fan and he's never going to
get it's going to be thrown out of court. Not
that about that. But he got what he wanted. He
got some attention, That's what he did. But the point
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is this, why suit the NFL. He suited the various
teams that passed them by, But why suit it all
a hundred million dollars? I don't get it. But that's
what your Door Sanders has created in the National Football
I gotta believe behind closed doors, the league loves it
because people are talking about the league. Again, do I
talk about the NBA playoffs as much as they're talking
about your Door Sanders.
Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I mean they're always we're going to talk about Sudner Sanders.
But yeah, the attention, Like we talked about the attention,
the intrigue, how all attention is good attention when it
comes to the league. Yeah, I mean it's another good thing.
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
It's crazy and uh, the NFL didn't respond to the
request for a comment. Uh asked that the league had
any reason to be concerned over the lawsuit, USC professor
of law clear Story told The New York Times, no,
they should be concerned at all. She said the NFL's
layers would likely file emotion to dismiss the lawsuit for
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failure to sustain a claim, and that would likely be
the end of the matter. However, I know it's ridiculous
in any way, but that's what people want to do.
I don't see people suing Major League Baseball and their players.
I don't see who sue in the NFL. It's the NBA.
It's all about the NFL. The league is so popular,
fans take it to the next level. That's what they do.
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I mean, it's crazy, I know, but that's what they do.
Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Yeah, they certainly do that. They just can't.
Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Get enough of it. Can I get enough of it?
They love it. It's one of those things that will
continue to talk about, like, yeah, they just they just
love it.
Speaker 7 (01:13:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
It's just it's just one of those things.
Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
That it's just funny to see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
But yes, it's sick. I mean it's funny because like
you go to an NFL game and if you don't
sit in the in the press box, you're sitting in
the stands. You can't sit. They stand the entire game. Why,
I don't know. I turned the game on last night.
I'm watching Golden State play and they're playing that game
in San Francisco. To me, maybe I'm crazy. It seemed
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to me there were a lot of empty seats there.
Maybe it was the timing. I don't know, because it
was eight thirty East and so it's five thirty in
San Francisco. Maybe that's a bad time. I don't know.
But they could play the NFL and they have. They
played it on Wednesday nights during COVID and it was
sold out they did, So there's something missing there.
Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Yeah, it's just a more popular game, Like I'm just
gonna be honest with you, Just a more popular game.
Like that's what it comes down to. It is a
more popular game. To to wise to be around the
NFL is king. This is different, I believe. Look, I
don't think there's anything wrong with NBA basketball, particularly this
version that we're seeing in the postseason. To me, it's
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just a love affair and the fascination that people have
with the NFL that really makes it hard.
Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
It can be when them when it comes to the ratings.
Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furmanweil
Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Butts Radio. In or out,
up or down, it's yay or nay, and it's next
Yeah your nay coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks and
Andy Furman Awa, Fox Sports sonny A, Fox Sports Radio
Live for the Fox Sports Radio studios about eleven minutes,
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not before the top of the hour. Patty, it's all yours.
Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
Okay, let's rack those brains, gentlemen. These stories need.
Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
An ass I think we need a ruling on this.
It's yay or nay.
Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
That's right, everybody.
Speaker 7 (01:15:20):
You know what's what time it is, and you know
what it's time to play yay your nay with your
producer Patsa on this fine Mother's day.
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Rhymes that was a little bit of a rhyme there.
Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
Every every time I like to rhyme it every time.
Oh alright, Well, let's get down to it, gentlemen. Here,
So here's what we got. Number one, So show hey,
Otani could have pursued a fifteen year contract them yes right,
I know, right through age forty four. But Superstar apparently
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didn't want to risk a decline in skills while under
the big deal.
Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Yay your nay, Andy firm, Nay. He's full of it.
Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
He's full of it. Who's gonna turn out a fifteen
year deal for what? How much money was that? Millions? Millions?
You're gonna turn it that way? Who worries about their
skill level? They worry about the money. He's a liar.
He is a liar. Believe me. I don't believe that.
That's just agent trying to make the Dodgers look bad.
Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
I mean, look, I think he's a team guy. He
understands what it is. He has all the power in
the currency. Like I'm a Dodgers fans, I appreciated like
all that deferred money and all that other stuff like that.
He just wants to win the team. He just wants
the team to win. Look, you saw show Hey give
out water at the game.
Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Team guy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
I like him, the team guy. You know what, he
used that money to gamble it away anyway.
Speaker 7 (01:16:42):
Well, speaking of a team guy, sping of a team
guy that beat me, your producer, you're bringing it back
here because I'm the ultimate team guy for you guys. Here,
let's go. But we're also going back to team sports here.
So in the NBA Playoffs, as we all know, so
Game two was Boston and versus New York. As we
all know, Boston lost. The Celtics lost while shooting forty
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five threes. Yeay or nay on that Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Yay.
Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
This is what they do. They're committed to the plan.
Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I appreciate them sticking to the playing good, better and different.
If you're a believer in the philosophy and a play
and you stick to it, you don't change.
Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
I'm gonna go nay. As much as I love watching
the Celtics, yes, I'm going they because I think that's
not basketball. They really just just chucking the bull up. Yeah,
it's the philosophy, it's the way they play, and they
got the guys that do it. But you know what,
I'm gonna go back and check the records this week.
I'm gonna check the record. But way back in the
late sixties, when they had the American Basketball Association the ABA,
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which really and truly invented the three. I want to
see if any teams in the ABA shot forty five
threes in one game. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
So.
Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
It's a different time.
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
What do you mean, it's the game of basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
It's a different time. I guess that Bob Coosey and
those guys, if they played with the three.
Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
They all back lost just a fifties. If I talk
about the ABA, would Roger Brown played and Doctor j
they had the three back ten and then then checking
up forty three threes? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
All right, well next on here, guys.
Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
So the FCS teams would be allowed to play twelve
regular season games every year under a D one Football
Championship Subdivision Oversight Committee recommendation.
Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
The one game.
Speaker 7 (01:18:25):
Extension would go into effect in twenty twenty six if
the D one Council gives its approval during its June
twenty fourth to twenty fifth meeting.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Yay or nay?
Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Andy Furman, I give that a yay, And I'll tell
you why. These kids that play FCS football, they're no
different than anybody else playing either junior college football or
big time football in college whatever. Maybe why should they
be excluded? Why shouldn't they play twelve games? Why shouldn't
they play as many as anybody else? So I give
them a yay. Let him play, play as much as
you can stay out of the classroom. The more you played,
the less you have to study.
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
I mean, so we're gonna we're gonna play all these
games and then play in the playoffs and do all
this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
So what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
Play too many games?
Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Like they have the playoffs, which is different.
Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Come on, you giving it an a. You're giving it
an a.
Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Well, here's here's one. I'm gonna give a yay for guys.
Last one.
Speaker 7 (01:19:16):
So Major League Baseball has added multi colored gloves. Yeah
your nay, Bucky Brooks, because I'm yay.
Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Yay, Come on, man, multi color gloves. The only thing
that I would ask is just do the multi colors? Like,
can we do them in team uniform? I just don't
like to see the weird colors. But yeah, I like
the multi colors have a little bizazz.
Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Yeah I give that a. Yeah, I like it. You
know why I picked us this way? You can't you
can't be mistaken as to which glove is yours. You
know what I'm saying. You think doing the half anying
when you put the glove down, the dugout. You know,
I'm the blue yore, the yellow yoa green, so you
know which is your glove. I like it.
Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
I'm actually surprised that you would like it. I thought
you would be a traditionalist. I am. That is the
biggest surprise for me. I thought that you would be
a brown glove. Only guys get into that. We'll get
into that when we could take you. Hey, number three,
there's a.
Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
New number one on Fox Sports Sunday coming up right
here next all right, the top running back maybe on
the move, that's coming right up. Good morning, everybody. This
is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky
Broke and Andy Ferman. And by the way, we're live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And I want to
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get back to that little thing that we're talk about
on yay or ay with the Major League Baseballs ending
the multi colored gloves. And you were very surprised that
I said yeh, because she said I'm a traditionalist. I
think there's a difference between being a traditionalist and being
common sense. All Right, A traditionalist yet I wasn't really
a big fan of the increased base size. I really wasn't.
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I wasn't a big fan when they went to extra
innings and put a runner on second base. I think
that's ridiculous. I wasn't a big fan of that because
I am a traditionalist. The pitchclock, I could live and
die with the pitchclock. Not a big deal because I'd rather,
you know, go home after two and a half hours
than stay a bit. They spoke game of three and
a half hours. But the gloves, that's great. You know,
kids will love that. They're gonna sell gloves. They want
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to see that. It's just something different and it adds
a different sparkle, so to speak, to the game of baseball.
So yeah, I could be a traditionalist, but I think
I do have a little common sense there.
Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Buck, Okay. I just I just assumed that you would
be a guy that you know coming. I would assume
that you're a Cincinnati Reds fan, because you all think Cincinnati.
I just thought that you would be a no facial hair,
We're gonna wear black shoes, white laces. We're gonna have
brown gloves, no no friels, no fancy stuff. Everyone looks
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like a team at all times. I thought they would be.
Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
I'll ask you this, I mean, I don't understand why
that no facial hair. That was a large shot thing
back in the day. And then there are guys in
their raide right now that do a facial hair. Think
about this. Think about the National Football League in the NBA.
I don't think you could pick out, on one hand
guys that do not have facial hair. Think about that.
That's the big deal about facial here. I don't get it.
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Why Why did baseball teams and the Yankees had it
for a while too. Why did baseball teams say you
can't have facial hair? What what's the problem with that?
Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
They wanted to clean looks, man, No, they wanted to
clean look. Wanted to have one to make sure that
you look professional. You know, there was a time there
that we talked about like being clean shaven. That was
the professional look. So the Yankees went away from it.
I will say this, I'm a little disappointed that the
Yankees went away. That was something that was tried and true.
That was a big part of their I can't even
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say their stick, but the big part of their culture.
They were the professionals, and now they've gone away, they're
just like every other team. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
So are you saying now or of people, say a
league saying that because the National Football League and the
NBA guys have facial hair, they're not professional.
Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
I mean no, I'm just saying like that was.
Speaker 7 (01:22:50):
That was.
Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
That was, that was, that was, that was the thought
behind why those teams would would do it. I'm not
saying one way or the other, but that was. That
was the way they operated. And I thought you, being
a huge Reds fan but also being one that is
a little more traditional and since I thought you would
be a brown glove only guy, that hey, we're not deviating.
Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
This is work.
Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
This is what Pete Rose did, Joe Morgan, all these
guys like, this is what they did.
Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
We're gonna look like the big Red machine and it's
never changing.
Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
I just, you know, that's one thing that I never understood.
And honestly, like if a guy has a beard or
a mustache, whoever it may be, doesn't bother me. I mean,
I mean, I couldn't picture Bill Russell without a kot
think about it. I mean, I just I could, or
Will Chamberlain or Lebrama out of beard. I mean, it's
just it's part of the ghettup because of makeup. I mean,
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do I like them any less or anymore? No, that's
the way they are. I mean, really, it's crazy when
you think about.
Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
It, it is crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
I mean, I get it. I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
No, here's a question. Have you seen an NFL quarterback
with facial hair? I'm trying to think if there is one.
Is there one NFL quarterback with facial hair. I'm trying
to think maybe like Matthew Stafford facial hair.
Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
No, maybe like little mus mustaches and stuff like that,
But I can't remember anything being read out like little
Goate's uh. Jaydaen Hurt says a little mustache and goateee.
I think Jade Daniels has dad uh in.
Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
The day also, really, now, is that something that teams
request these guys? You represent us, you're the face of
the team. We don't want you to have facial hair.
Is that it?
Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
No, that's never been a no, no, no, that's never
been a thing. I think the only thing that teams
have ever requested is that you have a presidential flair
about you, that you are the face of the franchise,
you are outside of the owner of the general manager,
head coach, like the quarterback is the one who extends
that message out to the public. So you all always
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want him to be presentable when he steps to the
podium in those things because the words that he says matter.
Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Mm hmm. Now I'm trying to think of a coach
that has facial hair in the National Football League.
Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
You know if.
Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
I think Mike Rabel has like a little persistent five
o'clock shadow.
Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
But Dan Campbell's got to go tea.
Speaker 7 (01:25:31):
Yeah, they'll go to Ryan Fitzpatrick was QB that had like,
you know, the big beard too.
Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Yeah, but he was a coach of the Chiefs. Has
a mustache.
Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
So they got little stuff, nothing, nothing crazy though I.
Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Never thought of it really, I mean, a good point there.
We move on. But let's talk about football for a second.
Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns have no less than
four quarterbacks on the roster, including the infamous should do
or Sanders play? I hope he makes it in the
National Football League, I really do. He camp on Friday.
The first snap was a third round pick, Dylan Gabriel.
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How surprised are you with that would why would Stefanski
do that? Well here for them of the second why
would he do that?
Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Because third rounder is regarded as a higher pick than
the fifth rounder, so third rounding gets the first ball.
Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
I mean that's that.
Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
I assumed that Dylan Gaber would get that. And even
though he's been overshadowed by Shooter Sanders, you got to
remember third round picks come in. Third round pick is
not going to get cut his first year. He's gonna
get every opportunity to play. And when you look at
Shuotera Sanders man, he's gonna be playing mop up duty
in preseason fourth quarter games, playing with guys that are
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struggling to make the roster behind a bad offensive line.
He has an uphill climb. But I would say first
impression at Ricky Minnicamp appears to be pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
So they got Deshaun Watson's rehabbing, Joe Flackall, Kenny Pickett,
and Gabriel I mean that they he has a lot
at the climb to to see some action. Let's see
it from just Stefanski, the head coach, and why he
did that? Go ahead, Kevin, I want to hear this.
Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Yeah, I wouldn't look at anything. I think you'll see
the whole weekend going through the spring. I mean, we
don't pay too close attention to who's in their first.
Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Really, a lot of everybody else paid attention to it
except you. I mean, really, come on, Like, didn't you
realize when you're going to do that? I guess you
said that you're not surprised, but because you know you're
a football guy. But don't you think Stefanski would have
known by doing that he's going to cause a mini
riot because everybody wants to see Shador and they weren't
know why a third round guy going before a fifth round.
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But look, that makes sense in the pecking order. But
still in all he should have done it quietly. Don't
you think he caused a big to do here?
Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Now why everyone that was there practice so who went
out first is not Look, man, this is a common thing.
So when you have two young quarterbacks competing a day
one deal and you go with the ones, shood, you're
going with the two's, and then the next day, ay, shoulder,
we're gonna flip it. You go with the ones, gab her,
you go at the two's. Like everything is scripted. The
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one thing that I can tell you about NFL practice,
every play, every drill, there's a script that you have
to run down because those peers are really really short
and connence ten minutes, so to be able to do it,
you got to go quickly and efficiently. And some guys
will say, hey, for the four that the number one
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group goes, the number twos, you guys get to. The
number three is you also will get to. That's why
everyone gets reps. It's not the same, but everyone at
least has opportunities to get better and master the schemes.
Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
I will say this, and I give a lot of
credit to you do is saying this because he's been
very quiet and very professional. I mean I've read stuff
that said that, you know, in his meetings and the
one on ones, it was a his ego and the
jewelry he wore. I don't believe that because I don't
think you could turn around and turn it off like that.
He's been nothing more than a gentleman. Even with the
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number situation, he's going to wear number twelve. He went
to number two and they gave him twelve. He's taken.
I mean, he's just doing what he's got to do,
and hopefully his play will speak for itself. I hope so,
because I think that he I think he deserves the chance,
don't you think. I mean the numbers he put up
in Colorado. No one's talking about that. He had tremendous
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numbers in Colorado. And I still think it was somewhat
of a disgrace, not a mistake, but a disgrace the
way he was handled and the way what they did
to him in the draft.
Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
Look, man, I can't say it was a disgrace.
Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
It is what it is. He went to the fifth
round because a bunch of teams deemed him not to
be worthy of selecting.
Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Because it was played, because they didn't want the circus there.
Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Well, the one thing we don't know is how much
of it was his play, how much of it was
his circus environment, or whatever the reality is.
Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
And we got to deal with reality.
Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
And the good thing that I've heard from him is, hey, man,
I came in as a fifth round pick.
Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
That is what it is, regardless of what I may think.
Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
That's what the league said. My only job is to
put my best foot forward and control what I can control,
and not necessarily to prove the other guy's wrong. But
to prove myself right, that's all he can do. And
for us, look, man, a lot of people are still
stung by their pre draft grades and those things. We
will never know if we're right or wrong on our
assessments Shooter Sanatas until after his third season. After his
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third season, we'll be able to say, like, hey, look
he was right, I was wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
He is locked in.
Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
He has everything positioned the way that he wants it
to go, and it works for him. We'll see. But
I will say this in reading the reports from people
coming out Cleveland, they said that he's been solid. They've
said that he is I'll play the competition there, but
it's only Ricky Minichamp and he has a great understanding
and knowledge of the offense, like just knows it, understands it.
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It's working and we're seeing it play out the way
he plays well.
Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
I'm happy for him in one regard that he's not
playing and please don't take this the wrong way if
you're listening from Cleveland, but he's not playing in a major,
major market. If he was playing in New York, La
ch Cargo, Atlanta, it would be unbelievable with the amount
of press, there's Cleveland. It's like an A minus market.
It's not an A plus market. It's not big, but
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it's not a major market.
Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
Yeah, but I'll say this, as much as we have
seen him, look, I think his thing was pinned on
the NFL profile. We have never seen more videos of
a fifth round pick to date then we've seen a
Shuder Sandes. I mean every throw, every warm up, all
of his passes and practice are documented and put up
on social media platforms. They've done various things where they
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promoted him, even the controversy over the number and DeAndre
Carter elected to wear number two when they asked should
do or if he was going to buy and he
was like, man, my signing bonus ain't enough where I
can go get that like he laughed it off. But yeah,
there's no need for him to do it. And let's
be real, if you're Shuder Sanders and you're in line
to make the team, we don't know if DeAndre Carter
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is gonna make the team.
Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
And so what you do is you.
Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Wait, he gets cut and can I can I work
number two? Slide in and take it. So that's that's common.
It's not it's not a big videal.
Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Okay, so he you know, let's get this, let's let's
kind of scrape off the surface here a little bit.
The amount of interest he's been shown on social media
and the talk on media in general is not so
much because of his skill set. It is because where
he was drafted. I don't think it would have been
this bad if he was drafted in the first two
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rounds Agreed.
Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Hmmm, I think it would. I think it would have
been bad. Regardless. I think he is I mean, he
is clickbait and he's everything that you want.
Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
He is a ready made brand.
Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
He was a brand already, So why wouldn't you want
to siphon off some of that? The Browns understand it.
That's why they're taking care of it. Like, regardless of
where he was drafted, whether it's the first round the
last round, mister relevant, he was going to command a
lot of attention, and that attention might have scared some
teams away because they don't want the extra attention, the
(01:33:25):
extra scrutiny that comes along with Hey, when you open
up the doors and give people full access, everyone doesn't
want that.
Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
Everyone's not built for that.
Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
In your estimation, you're a scout you played the game,
does I mean he will not get the opportunity given
what he deserves to make the club because as the
fourth fifth quarterback back of the fifth round guy, he's
not going to get a lot of opportunities unless someone
gets hurt or someone gets traded. But if he does
(01:33:57):
get the opportunity, can he make it in the National
Football League?
Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
I mean, Look, I stayd about my grades, like, no
matter what he was drafted, I stand by Iok. I
think he's gonna end up being the guy that we
talk about out this class being the best one. I
loved what he was able to do, and people talk
about the processing and he took a lot of sacks
in those things. I just know and watching them and
following them from the time he was at Jackson State
to the time he concluded his career as a retiree
(01:34:24):
in Colorado. Look, I saw a lot of good things
on tape. And he plays the game in a man
in which the league has always said they want to
player to play from the pocket, deliver under the rest,
and make pinpoint throws that you can either use on touch,
timing and anticipation. He does all those things, and so
I would expect him to play well in a system
(01:34:46):
that is really built for his skill set. I think
he is going to surprise people when he has his opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
I'm gladt to hear you saying that. Really now sticky
with the Cleveland Browns. As you know, they drafted two
running backs in the draft of Ohio State, Quenching Junkins and
the SA round and the running back out of Tennessee,
Dylan Sampson in the fourth round. So that means right now,
Nick Chubb could be out the door. This guy's one
heck of a running back, although he's coming off an injury. Look,
(01:35:13):
he's on the career rushing list all time for the
Cleveland Browns first seven years he's spent in Cleveland. What's
the deal? Why do you get rid of a guy
like that? I mean, obviously when you have a question
about that to me, he always go back and say
his money. It's all about money, right, do you think
is it money?
Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
No? I mean you told me he plays seven years, right, yeah,
Like as a running back, that's it, man. I mean,
like it is uncommon for a dude to do what
Derrick Henry's doing. In the latest stages of his career,
Like normally seven years is the magic number, and then
you try and find another one. And as much as
he is a fan favorite in those things like you
love it, but it's business. This is business. They'll bring
(01:35:53):
him back in a couple of years when it's all
out of his system and he wants to kind of
be affiliated with the organization again, they'll bring him back.
Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
You may even venture to.
Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Say that may put his name up in lights in
terms of what he was able to accomplish, but he'll
always be revered inside the organization. But you can't let
your emotions impact your decision make and uh, he he
doesn't have the juice anymore, and so you got to
find someone who.
Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Has that juice.
Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
He's only twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
That's man, that's old for running back. That that's that's old.
That's almost a ARP status for running back. Like I mean,
you just don't. You don't play like thirty. Like the
drop off of running backs is normally twenty eight. And
when you think about multiple injuries to the knee and
those things, no one, i mean someone may sound like like,
(01:36:42):
but no one is going to be like, hey, let's
go get this guy. He is going to be our
RB one like those days are done for him.
Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
How old is Barkley?
Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
I think Takuan is twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Well, he said, in other words, he's on the downside.
Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
He's yeah, he has another he has another year or two,
and we'll see what he's like with all these touches. Normally,
after you have so many touches, you know, I think
three fifteen is the magic number. Man normally does a
huge drop off the following year. It's a lot of
car wrecks that you're involved in when you're running the
ball and touching the ball that much.
Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Well, he had a broken foot last year. In there
was Week two when the twenty twenty three season Nick
Chubb did But I looked at his stats. I mean,
it's really amazing what he did. Fourth time Pro Bowl selection.
He rushed from one in one thousand yards four straight
years before twenty twenty three, a career high fifteen to
twenty five yards in twenty twenty two, and Chubb is
(01:37:37):
still averaging five point one yards per carrying his career
despite a terrible year last year. Because last year he
did something like three hundred and thirty two yards and
it's just a couple of games because then he couldn't
play anymore. He was hurt and they broke that foot
in week number fifteen. He's going to be picked up
if Cleveland lets him go, someone's going to pick him
up and say, look, we're going to take a.
Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
Chance to those guys.
Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
I don't know, man, I think this would be a
late move. This would be a.
Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Training camp move at the end of it, probably based
on both sides of it. The thing about him is
you talked about him coming back last year and he
struggled when it comes to the numbers. He's had multiple
injury issues, need concerns, all of that. Like that doesn't
bowl well for you being able to get another thing.
He may play, but he's gonna play on minimum contracts
(01:38:23):
from here on out. Like it is over the big
spectacular blockbuster Paybe Payday all gone. You know, too much warrantey,
too much milage.
Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Incentives.
Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
I mean, maybe he may get a minimum deal.
Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
He may like when it goes and you become the
other guy, the rotational player, he can look to do.
He'd be very similar to Ezekiel Elliott. Ezekiel Elliott was
with Pages four Minutes, but he didn't make any significant money.
Comes back to the Cowboys minimum deal, and then he
couldn't handle it because it's hard to go for me
in a superstar on your team to now I'm gonna
(01:39:01):
be on that same team, but I'm gonna be in a.
Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
Ready reserve role. That is hard.
Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
That is something that twists and plays with your mind. That, Hey,
I went from me in the start, in the face
of the franchise to now I'm just I mean, I'm
one of the pips. I'm not glad it's night, I'm
in the back.
Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
I'm just back.
Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
I'm one of the pips. I'm just singing in the background.
No one even knows who I am. Everyone isn't built
to do that. And I use Adrian Peterson as an example.
He had a hard time in New Orleans. Remember when
he was playing under Sean Payton and Sean Payne' say look, hey, dude,
like you're not the starter, Like you're a role player.
You want of the rotation of guys.
Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Have you seen an athlete like that that basically was
on your team, a teammate who was a star and
another team and he came in there in a backup
role that just became disgruntled and it was a negative
part of the team because he couldn't handle it. Have
you seen guys like that?
Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
Yeah, Like, and you have to know the temperament of
the player.
Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Like.
Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
Everyone isn't to do that. Everyone can't.
Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
Seamlessly transition into the back to the backup position. There's
a reason why the backup quarterbacks operate like they do.
It may frustrate people because they know once the backup
goes in, he can't play. But if you bring in
another autphit and now you have a very contentious and
divisive quarterback room. That's why Cam Newton couldn't get signed
(01:40:25):
despite all the things saying that he was good enough
to be a backup quarterback. For some guys, the thing
is either starter or it's over. There's no in between
because people feel threatened either about your presence or they're
insecure having you around, and they would rather not deal
with it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
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get up the air. Now, we have the blame game
coming up in about ten twelve minutes from now, but
let's talk about this first seconds. I think it needs
to be discussed. It really does. If there are a
Game two loss, which received his fifth technical foul of
the playoffs, Golden State Warriors star Draymond Green express frustration
(01:42:42):
of what he called quote an agenda to portray him
as a quote angry black man. Okay, After the game,
Draymond gave a quick statement to reporter saying he believes
there is an agenda against him. He didn't elaborate, though,
and he said, quote, look like the angry black man.
This is what Green said the reporter is in the
(01:43:02):
visitor's locker room. Quote. I'm not an angry black man.
I'm a very successful, educated black man with a great family,
and I'm a great at basketball and great at what
I do. All Right, the agenda trying to keep me,
making me look bad like an angry black man is crazy.
I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous. I would say this
all right. I think he's very intelligent. He's smart enough
to play the role of the villain. He knows what
(01:43:24):
he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's not
an angry black man. He's played a role that basically
has helped the Golden State Warriors to four championships. He's
a future Hall of Famer. But for him to say
these things and you keep it to yourself, dreamer, because
it doesn't do you any good. Just like the other
day when he got into it in Minnesota when some
moron in Minneapolis was throwing epithets at him and you know,
(01:43:48):
racial slurs at him, and he went after the guy.
I get it. I get it. It would make you
crazy to make your skin cringe. It does, but you
got to control yourself. You can't, but sometimes you can.
I understand, when the uniforms on, you're a different individual, Bucket.
I'm sure you've seen that with many an athlete. When
the uniform's on, you're a different person. That's basically what
it is. But he's not an angry guy. He's playing
(01:44:10):
a role of an angry guy.
Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Yeah, So there are a few different things we have
to impact. One the racial slurs and those things, Like
I'm actually with him in terms of like confronting it,
because people think they can say anything and hide behind
the fact that they purchased a ticket.
Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
So whether it's racial or not, like just because you paid.
Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
Your money, you're not going to talk to me any
your type of way because a lot of the times
the way that you talk to people like fans at games.
You would never approach someone in public and say those things,
but you're in the safety and security of being in
the stands and you're protected by security in those things.
So I understand him going off on that. I think
what Draymond's frustration comes with when he talks about being
(01:44:52):
portrayed like the angry black Man. The clips, and this
happens right from a TV perspective, The clips that the
producer p depict a picture or an image of who
Draymond Green is. And so if every time we're watching
TV and the b roll, which is the highlight package
that they play over the voiceover when people are talking
(01:45:14):
about him, if it's always him engaging in conflict or
being angry or getting a technical in those things.
Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
It does paint a certain picture around who he is
and whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Like, he's right, he's a Hall of Famer, he's a
four time champion. He is someone who when you really
watch him play, there's a lot more smiling than the
contentiousness that we talk about. But because the stuff that
sizzles is his arguments and all of the bruhs that
he engages in, it does paint him and portray him
(01:45:50):
as someone who might have anger management issues because that's
all we see.
Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
It's not a balanced.
Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Portrayal of who he is, which leads to his frustration
being portrayed as the angry black man because all we
see when we see the highlights are him angry and
he's black.
Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Right, how up? But that the league is eighty five
percent black anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
But that doesn't, that doesn't, that doesn't, that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Take away from what he's talking about. Like, just because
the league is black doesn't mean that he can't be
portrayed as the angry black man. He is talking about
the portrayal and what he sees when he turns on
TV about them talking about Draymond Green. The only things
that you see related to Draymond are him having these
(01:46:34):
confrontations with people, getting technicals and all of that, and
it's not balanced by the smiling, the happy, go lucky Draymond.
So when we talk about Draymond, the first thing that
we'll talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:46:46):
Based on our views, Man, he's angry. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
He's always in some stuff. Man, he's a goon. Some
people will say quote unquote thug, and so to him,
he's like, I'm so much more than that. But all
I get portrayed as is the angry, conflicting, conflicted guy.
Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
Right, I would say this, if Adam Silver, the commissioner
of the NBA, had a pair of hanging down things,
this is what should be done. Right now, that clown,
that piece of egrement that that was in Minneapolis the
other day making those racial slurs, be it intoxicated or not,
should be banned from every NBA game for the rest
of his life. I don't I don't care. That's what
(01:47:26):
he That's what Adam Silver should do, but he won't
because he doesn't have the hanging downs. Number two, What
I would love to have seen this if in fact
it really happened, and I'm sure it did. I would
love to see Steve Kerr take his team off the court.
We're not playing until this guy's removed. You got to
stop that, because it's never gonna stop unless something's done right.
(01:47:50):
In other words, people speed until there's a stop sign
on the street. People speed until it's until there's a
traffic light. Then it stops, hopefully to some extent entirely,
but to some extent. And this garbage that happens at
games when people just get in front of the face,
and especially in basketball because eight is only five on
(01:48:11):
a court. B you're sitting real close to the action,
not like in football. And see they're not wearing a
lot of protectional stuff like in football with the helmets
and stuff, so you can see the guys. They're running
around in an underwear. That's what they're doing. But I
would love to have seen Steve Carr saying, my team's
coming off the court. We're finished. We're not doing this
until he's removed. I don't want my guys and my
(01:48:31):
team to be subject to this idiot. And he's an idiot,
that's what he was.
Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
Yeah, I mean, like you have to have severe stuff
if you don't want that in your game, then you
have to have severe consequences. It's no different in overseas.
Sometimes if you shoplift and they cut your hands off,
like some severe so everyone knows, like, oh, whoa if
I do that, these are the consequences. Yeah, Like if
there was a severe penalty for engaging in and and
(01:49:00):
act like that, Yeah, like it would it would curb
a lot of the activity and those things. It's a
lot to manage, right, Like, you have a lot of
things going on. The game is entertainment. You want fans
to be fans. You want fans to support their respective teams,
and they should have the right to kind of say
whatever it is that they want to say within the
game within reason though, and some things are off limits
(01:49:24):
and some things that are very personal. Well then it
elicits a response and they have to be willing to
deal with that response. But you can't cloak of it's
always it's always kind of existed. But I'll be honest
with you, man, with the explosion of Twitter and the
changing tone of the country when it came to the
(01:49:47):
language that we use towards one another, Yeah, like it
is seeped into every aspect politician, That's.
Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
No, no, no, no, no, no, that's what I'm saying. And like
the changing tone. There used to be a level of
decorum that we engaged in where look, you wouldn't say
things right for the sake of being Oh, I'm professor,
I can't utter that or whatever. And then it became
more attacking, more of the volatile things.
Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
It has been.
Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
The fans have been kind of stoked, not only by politicians,
but look, I felt like we did a lot of
this when it came to sports talk TV, right, the
debates and the words that we use, calling people scrubs
and those things, calling people out of their names and
all of that as it relates to athletes, we didn't
do that. That wasn't a big part of the discourse forever.
(01:50:42):
But then sports became sports TV became entertainment, and the
more that we entertained, the more that we were fighting
for attention. The more we fought for that attention, the
more wild and outlandist the statements came. And so now
that seeps in to the normal conversation, and then so
fans take their cues from what they see on TV.
Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Or maybe they're saying, look, I'm paying a thousand dollars
for a seat right behind the bench. I could do
whatever the hell I want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
I mean some of that, like, some of that does that,
But I feel like it's been fostered and fueled by
journalists and talking hits beginning to say sensationalize things and
big statements and everyone trying to create things that go
viral or clickbait.
Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
It's all of that. People trying to get famous for
no reason.
Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
There's a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
No, you're right, but you know what, my hero is
Lincoln Kennedy. Not that you're not my hero in a
different go but and I've told you this story I
think before when Lincoln Kennedy played football, some guy hit
him with a snowball, you know. I think it was
in Denver. He said, he right up at the stands
and beat the living daylights out of the guy. It
was great. I mean, I love that. It's why why
are you throwing the snowball at the football? I don't
(01:51:53):
get it, but that's what people do. And I think
a lot alcohol has a lot to do with it too.
I'm sure it does. But if you go to a game,
are you spending eight to ten dollars for a being
ready in mind anyway, Really, that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
I mean, alcohol has a lot to do with it,
but alcohol doesn't excuse the behavior. And when you feel
like in the sands you can say whatever it is
that you want to say without reproach, well yeah, you
say those things, and then it takes something like a
Lincoln Kidney coming up in the stands and be like,
oh whoa, whoa, whoa. They fight back, you know, like
because for so long it has always been turned to
(01:52:27):
the other cheek. Don't listen to that ignored. You get
paid money that shouldn't bother you or whatever. But yeah,
some days I don't feel like hearing that. And so
you're not gonna talk to me in any kind of way,
because you wouldn't talk to me any kind of way
if we were in the mall, if I was out
to dinner, you wouldn't say those things because then you
would have to deal with me in public. But in
the game, some people feel security that feel feel comfortable
(01:52:51):
enough to say it because they don't think one they'll
either be heard or two the player will confront them.
Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
You know what I would like to see though, I'd
like to see tom Izzo go public and kind of
defend Draymond because he played. Draymond played for him at
Michigan State, and you know, to play for tom Izzo,
he's a pretty structured disciplinarian. Iszzo and Draymond played and
there was never a problem. I don't recall any problem
whatsoever when Draymond played at Michigan State. So if Tom
(01:53:18):
is it would just come out there and say something, say, look,
he was an athlete here, played for me at Michigan State.
Never had a problem with him, went the class, never
had confrontations with him when he was here. So obviously,
you know this label that they put on him in
the National Basketball Association, it's false. It's ridiculous, and I
think it should stop. Boom. I'd love to see his
(01:53:40):
thoe do that and he could put an end to it. Really,
I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
But now I'm gonna say this, Draymond is responsible for
some of the portrayal, right, Like, we can't excuse his actions.
He has done some silly, dumb stuff and he has
a string of i would say, behaviors and actions that
have led people to view him a certain way, right,
We've seen him getting kerfuffles and do things. Going back
(01:54:04):
to Lebron the incident with that, we've seen him and
the elbow. He certainly plays the role of the villain
the bill Limbier.
Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Pushed the teammate.
Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Yeah, he does that. Now, we didn't get a chance
to really see that because we weren't in practice.
Speaker 4 (01:54:19):
But all of that plays into it.
Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
And as much as he is right with the portrayal,
he has given them reasons to portray him like that,
so two things can be right at once.
Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
They may portray him as the.
Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Angry black man, but he certainly has given them enough
evidence to show off being an angry black man.
Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
That hasn't balanced it enough.
Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
You're exactly right, You're you're not. You're a pleasant individual
to work with. I love you to death, I really do.
And Happy Mother's Day. All right, he's bucket Brooks. I
mean for we have Fox Butts Sunday on Fox, but Shreddy,
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We have a situation here where Gary Deborde. Gary de
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March shot. Gary, thank you for running. He says, you're
a mistaken The policy went back to at least nineteen
seventy said I think it was a Bob Housen thing.
Everyone had to be in uniform. Pete Rose said in
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Thank you, Gary, He said, he loves our show. Thank
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time for the playing game. You ruin me, it's all
your fault, No, it's your fault.
Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
What's is all your fault?
Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who's a liar?
Speaker 5 (01:56:12):
That's why there's the blame game.
Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Let's figure out who to blame. You're a liar, Patty,
You're a liar.
Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
Yeah, you know what, Let's blame me today, everybody. Let's
blame me. What Let's find out who else to blame? Everybody?
Speaker 7 (01:56:26):
So Draymond Green's behaviors on the court, real or performance.
As we've been talking earlier in the hour, who do
you blame? Andy Furman?
Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
You gotta blame Draymond because he did it. But I
love him to death. He's good for the league, and
he's a good person. He's a family man. He's a
Hall of Famer. Get off his back. Tom islwri you
to defend him. Steve Curry, you talk about everything and anything,
but you never talk about Draymond. Think about that. He
talks about politics. He talks about the election. Steve Kurr's
there for everybody and everything except this guy, Draymond. Come on, Steve, who.
Speaker 7 (01:57:00):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
Look, I'll blame Draymond for just his inability to be
able to keep his motions in contract in moments like
the technical files and stuff are ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:57:09):
And he's proven that he knows the difference between.
Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
When he can turn up and went not to because
in Game seven against the Rockets he didn't engage in that.
So this is a Draymond thing as well.
Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
All right, like it? Like it? Well, we're gonna stick
in the NBA for this one, guys.
Speaker 7 (01:57:23):
So why can't the Pacers Tyrese Haliburton perform his celebratory
dance to celebrate after a game on the court.
Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
Who do you blame, Bucky Brooks?
Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
Well, I blame Sam Casseil because it's an original Sam
Cassil's And it's what like Andy, you talked about the
hangy downs. You can't show people the hangy downs on TV.
And so when he hit the shot that symbol, what
he was pantomiming was showing them, hey, look at my
hangy downs. I got big hany downs and no one
(01:57:54):
wants to see that on TV.
Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
Well, I can't do that because I don't have big
hangy downs. But I will say this, Adam still, but
there's not big hanging downs. Either, let them celebrate, let
them know it. The National Football League celebrates, they're jumping
into the vats of water and whatever they do they have.
The touchdown celebration is good. It's fun, it's entertainment. You know.
Maybe he got smaller hanging downs than he could do it.
That's the key, right, Maybe that's I didn't I love
(01:58:20):
Bucky Brooks. I didn't measure the size of Hawll the
Burton's hanking downs. And I'm not staring at the meaning there, Okay,
just to let you know.
Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
I mean, I'm glad you're not staring at him, but
that's part of you's just letting the world know that
I got big onions, big hanging down.
Speaker 7 (01:58:34):
Gig Well, speaking of of something that needs big onions
in food here, guys, Chick fil A has the concessions
in Atlanta for the Falcons, which is great. However, they're
closed on Sundays. Who do you play, many Furman.
Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
This is the most ridiculous thing in the whelp because
if you got to or Atlanta Falcon game, they have
the concessions at the stadium, but they're closed on Sunday,
so you can't get a Chick fil a chicken sandwich,
which I love. I love Chick fil A. It's the
silliest thing I gotta blame. I hate to say this.
Maybe the Pope can change it. Maybe the new Pope,
Pope Louis the fourteenth, maybe he could change it. Because
it has to do the religious factor, because I think
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the ownership of Chick fil A is very religious and
they're closed on Sundays, I believe, So maybe that's maybe
the Pope could Could the Pope change it because he's
a sports fan, he's a White Sox fan. Maybe he
could change it.
Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
Yeah, I don't know if he can change it because
Chick fil A has always been closed on Sundays. So
you're not going to get a Chick fil A Sandwichedda
Falcons game.
Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
It's not gonna happen unless you bring it from Saturday
to sneak it in.
Speaker 4 (01:59:36):
Yeah, you have to go to the year. You have
to bring it in your own back.
Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
But the clearbacks are not going to allow you to
sneak in Chick fil A.
Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
All right?
Speaker 7 (01:59:43):
Last one, guys, Steph Curry out and hurt for the
Golden State Warriors in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Who do you blame? Final blame Bucky, who do you blame?
Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
Oh? I mean, he can't blame anybody, poor little hamstring
from Steph. I gotta blame him for getting hurt. But
they need him. The trainer's got to bring him back.
Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
See that's not true, Bucky. You could always blame somebody
for everything. There's always a blame, there's always a finger pointing.
You blame Adam Silva. The freaking schedules too long. That's
why he got hurt. Really, I would have loved to
see him play next