In a new episode of Project NIL with Anthony Gargano & William Penn Charter School Director of Athletics Danny DiBerardinis discuss players navigating the portal specifically around Bowl season, Danny gives his top 10 High School Boys basketball teams across the county, & Penn Charter HC Bobby DiBenedetto joins the show to talk youth soccer/sports narratives, & MORE!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, good morning, good morning ever buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Welcome in. This is Project and I L Danny d
d A D Danny de Beernandena's athletic director of penn
Charter High School, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I'm Anthony Gargano and one
of the fellas.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Every week right here we.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Tackle Project ni L and uh so much going on
man in the world bits it's just ever changing.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Good morning, Danny.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
What's going on over there? Cauz, how we doing.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We're doing well. We're doing We're doing well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We got basketball practice today, So as soon as I'm done, like,
we'll do our project down il hour. Then the fellas
come on so Jeff Schwartz formerly the Giants will on
me and then uh I'll hi tell it to basketball practice.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Season changing, got a little mix now we have a
little football, a little basketball, you know, going on the
same time.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's my favorite time of year.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
The only thing is, can I be honest, I do
this every year. I I like when it's just football, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I know, And I love the you know, I love basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I love baseball, you know, help coach it for the
kids from you know, my oldest and my youngest and uh,
I love it. But man, I just like football to
go slow because it's such a blur.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I looked up.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I was just counting there's only three college Saturdays left
in football.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, it's I know. I mean that's a little depressing,
right that it's coming. You know when they start overlapping,
you know that.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, it's kind of doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That's the only that's that's it because I love the
basketball so but it's the only thing is that it's
coming to an end. And you know, we have this weekend,
we have next Saturday, and then of course is the
Thanksgiving you know, rivalry weekend, and then and then it's
Capital One ball season, which I actually love. I watch
(02:20):
all those bowl games and I love that stuff. What
I was having this conversation yesterday, what do you do
with playoff balls portal?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, it's it's difficult because these kids are trying to
you know, some you know, they might be buried on
a depth chart right out of school and they're in
a bowl, but they might be looking for a team.
You know, teams are starting to look that portal opens up,
and you have to really make a decision. Do you
do you stick it out with your team, or do
(02:58):
you try to position yourself to get portal early to
let us solidify yourself a spot on another team, So
let us fire yourself with some more money.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Right, It's it's a really tricky situation. It was.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
It was amplified last year with Penn State with bo
you know, the backup quarterback who you know we've done
certainty of what Drew Allen was doing, and you know.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
They were in the final four. He had to move
he you know, he had to get.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
In the portal and he ended up in Missouri and
he had a great season this year, but he had
to get in there because he didn't want to wait
for it to dry up or spots to be taken.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And it's difficult to navigate, right.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
So that we've discussed a few times, we really want
the portal to it should open after the full season ends.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yes, yes, yeah, you got to do it like it
can imagine college football, imagine NFL playoffs and a portal.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yeah, it's crazency starts, you know during the NFL season still.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Exactly like all of a sudden, the portals open free agency.
Well wait a second, we get to put you we
got actually games going on. It's crazy, you know, playoff
games crazy anyway, But we turned the pages a little
bit and let's talk a little hoops.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So I know you have compiled a list of your
top ten.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yes, sir, all right, so you got your top ten
project ani L twenty twenty five twenty six boys basketball rankings.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
So you know this is early, right, it's going to
change throughout the season. But going into the season, right
as these teams are revving up to start playing, looking
at what teams are returning right what time, what type
of rosters they've either returned or additions that they've added,
and uh yeah, we got top ten high school teams
in the country on the boy's side. Next week we'll
do the girls side, and you know, talk about each
(04:52):
one of these teams a little bit, all right. So
do we want to start at ten or do we
want to start at one?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
What do we want to know? I want to start
at ten. I like I like the drop right down. Yes,
Sean Bosco, huh yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
On the West Coast, they're led by two top twenties,
two guys in the top twenty six rankings. Christian Collins
is a small forward. He's ranked twelve, not committed yet.
And then NBA son Tajaisa, son of Trevor Resa.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Wow, Trevor's son.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Look at that hat and he's going to Oregon. Ranked
number seventeen the country. So you know California, right man,
I mean, they've been really high on our list as
far as football and basketball goes this year, but holding
down the number ten spot out in California.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Saint John Bosco, Bosco's legendary Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Always the school program.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, I always love Yeah, you always got a lot
of great talent football and basketball. I'm enamored with the
second generation.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
In fact, I want to do a book about the
second generation.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Well we fall on this list. There's more second generations
on this list, are there?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Really? It doesn't surprise me? All right? How about number nine?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, Fishers in Indiana, so smaller school, not you know,
really always known, but they finished the season strong really
last year, and they have one of the top point
guards in the twenty twenty seven class, Jason Gardner.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
He's a point guard. I'm committed, but he's a top.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You know fifty kid in the country, true point guard,
true general. And they just played the right way. They
finished the season really strong last year, made a run
in states, and I like them to be you know,
for an unknown nasty.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
In the top, you know, top ten, top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
They like the Hickory High.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Maybe a little Hickory, Yeah, a little Hoosiers out there.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, still some of the great.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's still the best.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
It's when I see him, when I see it on
like if I stumble upon it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, you know, to click and stick. I got I
have to. I gotta watch it. Yeah. Coach Norman Dale.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, man measures the hoop. It's ten feet no matter
where you go.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And now he doesn't realize, but now those kids can
get baid. What Jimmy Chip was going to make Now, man,
Jimmy Chit was going to cash with nil.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah he Jimmy Chit Will would have got a big
back from the Hoosiers to stay home.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And stayed Indiana. That's great, all right.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Number eight with that out of Minnesota. So Minnesota over
the years, basketball has been growing there. You know, they
jailing Suggs and chet Holmgren coming out of there recently,
so big program down to Minnesota. They have, you know,
a top one hundred shooting guard in the country, Christian
Wiggins and he's committed to a high Iowa state and uh,
(07:53):
you know they've been, you know, been a power of
Minnesota over the last couple of years, and I like
them to be in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's Christian Whiggins related.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
No no relation, no relation Andrews.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
There's a lot of great Wiggins.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
They are they are.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
We'll get you'll know the names when I get to
the number five team there and then number seven, uh,
Notre Dame Academy in California. They have the number one
player in the country, Tyrone Stokes.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
He's a small forward. He's a specimen.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
He's six seven, like two twenty he he's an absolute specimen.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Just yeah, it just overpowers you.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
He's not he's more of a score over than the facilitator,
but just overall sides, he's a specimen. They also have
a really good twenty seven. And then the Navarra Bowman junior.
There goes another one.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Wow. But Vara Bowman the football player.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, junior shooting guard.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
He's number he's the number forty fifth player in the
class of twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So nice little far bowman man he was he was
he was good.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, good defensive back.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm lying back. We talked about this.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
The genetics, man, it's been coming through through big you know,
on a larger scale recently, there's been a ton of
second generation guys that are even in different sports.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Well, I I what fascinates me about it is, uh,
you know, obviously the genetics is there, right, you know,
if your parent was a professional athlete, makes sense. But
the wisdom of being around it, right, Like, if you're
around it, you're there's a losmosis effect.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, you know for sure, So all right, keep ye
we're the number six staying nowt in the state of California,
Harvard Westlake.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
We have a top shooting guard in the country, Joe Sterling.
He's ranking the top one hundred and he's committed to Texas.
Very overall deep team.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
They got a bunch of guys, guys that are you know,
considered to be in the top three hundred in the country.
You know, just depth and guys who understand their role.
Really talented team.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
All right, question, So you mentioned he's now he's committed
to Texas. Yes, When when do most kids make their decision?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
That's actually interesting if you look at this year's high
school class, the twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Class, because it's a lot not commits, right, and.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
If you look in the top twenty, there's probably five commits.
It's later than ever before, and I think it's kids
are just really waiting to see how these you know,
rosters are shaking out, and they're trying to play hardball,
I think, on this nil piece and waiting to see
what the need is before they jump in. And the
top twenty you can do that. You see guys committed.
(10:51):
There's a lot more commitments in that class from twenty
five to one hundred.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
You know, it's very it's more common.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
So the better you get, the more you're almost betting
on yourself like a free age. It would like one
of your last year in contract. You're gonna wait, wait
to the latest so you could maximize your payout.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yep, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Did you think if in the top twenty, if only
five people are committed at this point in the season,
that's that's incredibly rare because signing days are happening, people
are on the clock, but in this nil environment, people
are being really patient and waiting to see, all right,
let me see how they start the season, right, Maybe
they'll panic and say, hey, we really got to invest
more in this kid.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
We need to make a splash.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Coaches you know, might be jocking to you know, solidify
their job for the following year. Right, So they kind
of waited out and wait and see how this plans
out plays out.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So what's the uh?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Because I read a piece about now kids are getting
actually paid in high school by the college.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, they can, you can start they can start playing you,
depending on the state while you're in high school, right,
And part of that is that contract is more it's
more valid than actually your letter of intent, and it
kind of locks you in.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Because if you're accepting money, it's a binding deal.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yes, so it does happen. It depends on the state
and it depends on university. But if you are committed
as a senior, they can start paying you, you know,
some of that money now, depending on where you are.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
All right, let's take the kid. Let's take the kid Bowman.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, he's non commit right, we don't have he's not
going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yet, Bowman junior.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Correct, So.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
If Bowman can he get nil money or endorsement money,
I should say, because it's not really anil because it's
not coming from a university.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But can he get endorses? It? Is that il right?
Because he can get say door Dash?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Can door Dash say man, I want Navarrol Bowman Junior.
He's got eight hundred thousand followers. I want to I
want to pay the post for us.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, that that is legal. Again, depends on the state
that they're in. Most states allowed.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I think it's down to like eight to ten that
are still in some type of limbo with it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
But most states where you are.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
You're allowed to be paid in high school and you're
allowed to take these type of deals.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's interesting because that's on top of well that will
be on top of your college deal. Like that's that's
a separate pool your endorsements.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
That and if you're getting those type of deals, you
have to have a massive social media filing, right, because you.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Know they want to get in early with you.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Right, Maybe they're thinking long term and saying, this kid's
going to be a big time professional athlete. We want
to get in the door now, right, we want to
be involved with him early on. But on the flip side,
also it you really have to have work to them
besides just them betting on you. Right, there has to
be a massive social media following, and a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Of these kids, when you're at the top of the top,
you have.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Millions of followers already, which is you know, a crazy
thing or hundreds of thousands of followers to really draw
people to your page, So it makes sense for them
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
On that side, are shoe companies allowed to come in now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, wow?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Now why wouldn't they come in, especially in basketball and
the jockeying of basketball. Why wouldn't you know, Nikey come
in to Navarro Bowman junior.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I think they'd like to wait till college, because there's
still a lot of uncertainty, right. You don't want to
lock yourself in and a kid not really playing out
pan out. They like to see you prove it at
a collegiate level maybe before they get in. But more
and more there's been collegiate deals, I mean even on
their women's side, like Juju at USC she signed a
deal with Jordan right while she was at USC, So
(14:55):
that that's become more and more common that these deals
are happening while you're a I would do that before
you get to the professional level.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
What happens if you sign you get a kid that
signs with you know, under armor and the school is
in Nikey School.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, that's I don't know the answer to that, probably
is I don't know if that's happened on a big
scale yet, so I'm not positive, but that would be.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But do you know what the scenario's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, it's wild. Anyway, let's continue.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
We'll continue on number five out of New York Archbishop
stepinac Now they're led by a brother pairing, Darius Ratliffe
and Adonis Ratliffe, both centers, both ranked in the top fifty,
and they're heading the USC next year.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Sons of THEO.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Wow, Theo's kids, the kids THEO ratlift Man.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I was wondering if that was it.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Wow check both seven footers both had the USC.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
They're ranked you know, thirty sixth and forty seventh in
the country.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
And they also have a shooting guard Josiah Jarvis. He's
ranked thirty seven going to Michigan State. So you can
see those kids are ranked and you know, the high
thirties to fifties and they committed right, which is what
we've kind of the theme we've been talking about but
based out of New York. A lot of talent. Twin
Towers brothers both going to USC too, which is interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, that's fast. What a story. That's a great story.
You got two kids, Twin Tower brothers.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, seven footers.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Wow, that's awesome. That's a good story.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, I love it. You know sixers when when they
were good, he was part of the.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Was it man?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, got traded in the the Kembe Mutumbo trade.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Very good, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
And then moving on, we have a Wheeler out of Georgia.
They're always been a kind of a power, big time
public school in Georgia, known for football and basketball. They're
led by Calvin Landrew. He's a shooting guard, number twenty
seven in the country.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
He's committed to Yukon.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And they have a.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Twenty seven Kevin Savage, who's a point guard and he's
ranked forty four in the class of twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Uncommitted.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
All right, number three, we have Sierra Canyon. Now they
are a dominant on the boys and girls side. They're
coming up in football. They are becoming a power out
in California. That's where you know Bronni Lebron James kids went.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh right, right, right, they have.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I knew of them before they were there, but since
Lebron's kids went there, it's been they've been on a
trajectory where they've really been competitive in some of these
major sports and stay consistent, you know, because Lebron's kids
aren't there anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Right.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
They have Brandon McCoy just transferred in. He's a combo
guard number three in the country uncommitted. They have a
Maximo Adam's small forward, number twenty in the country, and
they name have a kid, Jordan Maiz who's a shooting
guard rank sixty. So they have that's a lot of
three kids in the top sixty and the number three
overall player in the class.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That's a lot of time. Now, are they recruiting nationally?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yes, they get kids that transfer in across the country
multiple you know, every year. I think they get a
kid that Wight will come from outside.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
The state of California. Right, wow, that's wild number two.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
And you know a team that's been in the top
ten perennially for the last five to ten years out
of Virginia. But they play in that Baltimore DC Virginia
Elite League down there. Paul the sixth, and they have
the number six player in the country.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Jordan Smith. He's uncommitted shooting guard.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Dukes in on him, Oregon's and on him, so he's
an elite player. But Paul the six is always the
top you know, five to ten team in the country.
And they're really well coached and they you know, come
from a really talentedly.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
They played in the league with Gonzaga Saint John's.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
You know, like, oh yeah, yeah, that's a big that's
a great Baltimore area.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So uh yeah, that's a great that's a great league.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
The Elite League.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I think it's fair and you and I should take
a right I like to see some of that ball.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I think it's the best league in the country because
every year they have three teams in the top twenty
five for one.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, you know, I like to see a couple of
those games.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
They're they're they're they're interesting. Yep.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I drummer one number one, so Columbus out of Florida.
So last year that was where the Boozer Twins were.
Oh yeah, and we thought they'd take a step back,
but they're not. They have the number eleven player in
the class, Caleb Gapskin, he actually committed.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
To Miami and then one more time.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
For the linear Jackson and Richardson, son of Jason. So
the brother was at Michigan State last year. Now is
in the NBA, and uh Jackson Richardson is a small
forward rank number twenty two in the class. He's uncommitted,
but another four I'm aroun NBA son leading the way
over there.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So well, can you imagine you have two sons playing
Pro Bowl?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
That's going to happen. I mean, at least that's what
the path looks like right now with.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Towers and well, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That's it's that's cool. So how good are they that
at Columbus great?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I mean they they dominated, they the boothers, you know,
the brothers who kind of were elite and everyone in
a U Championships and they were a top five team
in the country, top ten team in the country the
last two to three years.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
And they're keeping it rolling, man, So to see how
it shakes out.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But I love it.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Top ten there it is project that I will tweet
that out the project nil top ten lists heading into
the seasons, seasons begins, all right, coming out, are we
talking soccer?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
We're gonna talk from soccer.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Today.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
We have a coach, Bobby Debadet, longtime coach in the
Philadelphia area with club programs. I'm lucky enough to work
with him at William Pencharter. He just won the Interact
Championship this year, which is a very very competitive soccer.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm want to talk to World Cup with him too,
and on a youge soccer and uh, you know where
it's headed. I think that's a great story. Looking forward
to talking to coach Bobby d that's coming up next.
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talk a little soccer today. Dan, we got with us
(22:46):
a terrific coach from your school, a guy that's been
around it for a long time, coach Bobby diabetandetto coach
Bobby d Good.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Morning, Good morning, glorious. The congratulations on your championship.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Thank you very much, Thank you very much. Long time
coming for pennch Arder. All those programs there have been
shut out the last three years. Outside of our great
basketball program last year. We haven't won a championship since
twenty sixteen on the boy side, in any sport, so
it's a big deal for the school. It's great to
have Danny Gan win a couple of championships early and
(23:27):
hopefully we can keep it rolling under the winter.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Coach, let's go, man, what is the as an ad?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Congratulations to you Dan on your first uh he just
started this school and you get your first champ, your
first chip.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Man, you know I'm just there to try to help
god these coaches and give them the resources. You know
this when you come in fresh it's you know, it's
it's a lot of stuff's already been established.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
So Bobby already had the groundwork.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
He laid it out and you know I just kind
of jumped on at the end and try to do
whatever I can to help, you know, grow the program development.
But you know, the credit goes to him and his
staff for all they've done leading up to this. You know,
it doesn't happen overnight. It builds over year after year.
And he has a phenomenal culture and the kids, you know,
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they want to they want to run through a wall
for him.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
So credit to him and his staff. And you know,
I was just happy to be there and watch it happen.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Coach, I got a bunch of questions.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Give me where high school soccer fits in when you
have all the club teams, right, because the club teams
as you go through youth are so big, so pronounced.
And then you have teams like the Union have their academy.
How does high school soccer fit in with a lot
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of the big clubs that kids are playing.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
On off.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
So we've seen it change so much through the years, right,
So this is my twenty eighth year coach in high
school soccer. I've been involved in clubs in the meantime,
which I don't do anymore because I just can't vibe
with that culture. To be honest with you, I'm not
at one sport person. I think we to you know, Danny,
you have Ganny talked about that a couple of weeks ago.
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And even these smaller clubs are starting to come to
the point where they want you just to specialize in
soccer young and they don't want you to play in
high school. And you know, you got to kind of
jock you for a position to get your guys just
to play in games. Forget about practice. I mean it's
an irison piece practice, they don't. I got to make
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sure that they're throwing up for games. I was very
fortunate this year where my boys my MLS Next Kids,
which is a which is a level of club ball
on a high, very high level. But you know, they
all got exemptions and they were able to play high
school on their club. But you know, they're playing for
me five six days a week, going to practice for
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club three nights a week, and then playing on the
weekends for their club. So it's a lot of soccer.
It wears them down, and it's starting to force kids.
You know, it's really making kids pick one one way
or the other. And it's just it's a shame that
it's set up that way because you know, they're sold
to bill of Goods and you know there's going to
be a lot of coaches here this weekend. Well, and
how are their coaches coming out on a Saturday when
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they're coaching their college teams?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
You know, So yeah, that's wild. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I mean they tell me how this coach is coming,
and that coach is coming, and I look at that
coach's schedule and you know he did Buck Noll coaching
that weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Or you know, or they're up there right.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
So I did a really good job of finding the
balance right and talking to the kids and being realistic
about expectations. And I think it's really important for coaches
out there that are dealing with this to have these
conversations early, right, and Bobby will sit down.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
And say, hey, like, this is what I need of you.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Right, if you want to be a part of my team,
you have to be here, this, this and this, and
we want to.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Help you be a part of it. But whole also
be flexible and saying, hey.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Like, I understand you have a big you know, big
weekends and big tournaments, and we can find ways to
get your breaks and work you in and out of
the lineup. So I think being creative with it because
the environment's changing and I know it's challenging for coaches,
but to not have a hard line and kind of
address it by the situation and the student athlete.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Bobby did a phenomenal job manage.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
It because we did have kids that are high level
soccer players that have to navigate these really difficult schedules.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So if you're not well, give me, Like, if you
have a high level kid, give me his week, like
Cowmedy games, he playing well.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
I mean he's playing at least two for us. Right
during the season, Balm, we're in league, we try to
stick to two games of leek just are two league
games before the season starts. Before October one, we try
to fit in three games a week. Luckily, in our
in our conference, in our in our association, we're allowed
to play as many games as we want. And I'm
a big Montsouri guy. I learned. We learned through play, right,
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We get better by playing. Yeah, yeah, you know you're
complaining every day, man, But at seventeen and eighteen years old,
dribbling around a cone for me.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Is kind of like a waste of time, right, those skills,
Yeah yeah, I never saw.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Cone jump out and try to steal a ball from
you or tackle you from behind them. I want to
see how you react to that. Right this way, when
I get into the league, and Daniel tay our non
league schedule is rigorous. We're in Cincinnati. Next year, we're
down in DC. Next year we go up, we go
up to New Jersey and New York to play. You know,
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we try to play the best competition around. Some of
that just being the thought of your Catholic league is Daniel,
tell you Roman, Ryan, Saint Jose Prepp, Father Judge, Like,
there are the games that make us better. But we're
playing three games a week and then they're going to
tournaments on the weekend. So in a lot of those
on league games, I'll give I'll give those guys half
the game or some of them. You know, I just
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tell them, you got to tell me how you feel,
you know, because the league really is the most important thing.
And I kind of understand. And I think my staff
on the stands with those players are capable of doing them,
you know, in game. So you know, maybe some of
the other guys we had to we had to get
them battle tested a little bit. But it is a balance.
But you know, we've had we had a kid run
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cross country this year and not only did he run
cross country, he's gone to college for cross country. He
was just on our team a lot of games.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Uh wow.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
We had three wow, three kids kick footballs this year.
So you're always balancing schedules. But that's what you should
be doing in high school. That's what I feel bad about.
These kids missing that experience because you know, they're running
out of school sometime headed to their club practice and
missing all the other things that they should be doing
as a high school athlete.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I was talking to Uh, there's a guy, Tim McDermot
who runs to fill up he union of the MLS
and was saying that your your academy team, like this
commitment like you have to sign sign and you can't
miss certain things and and it's an all year around deal.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah, me and Bobby have talked about and Bobby could
go a little bit more. That is like such a
small percentage right of the population that are at that
type of high, high level where they're trying to make
the MLS or trying to you know, play professionally. So again,
navigating that is important, but it's important also to have
coaches who understand that balance. And Bobby does a phenomenal
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job about it. But Bob, you can talk about that
that small percentage.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
So you know, there's I think I gave you a
number standing if they're in mind, I think there's it
says there's like close to four million kids that play
you soccer in this country to a lot of kids,
four million, right, and I think we have internationally and domestically,
I think we have under four hundred players that play professionally.
So think about that in your head, right and if
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you look at that's just one little thing. I mean
you're talking about a minor, minor percent that go pro.
But even Division one soccer players now if you look
at a Division one roster on a bad team, it's
two thirds foreign and then the transfer portal. Right, so
if you're looking at Division one rosters, you're looking at kids.
They don't have their high schools listed, they have their
first two colleges listed, and most of them are from
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outside the country. That's what Division one rosters are compiled
on that for the most part, I mean even locally.
You can look at our local programs, I mean Temple
with dau saying close, they're loaded up with internationals, right,
you know, it's really difficult for a kid like I have,
probably and Danie'll tell you, probably one of the best
players in the area issue and he's All State, he's
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also out Eastern Pennsylvania. He's first team All Interact and
he's the MVP of the week. He's got some of
the best vision i'd seen, I mean ball skill, you
know he's got at all. But he's under six foot
and he's an America. He's a senior at the end
of the season, and he doesn't have an offer yet,
and he's an MLS next kid who's dedicated time and
money and gave up, I mean gave up going to
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proms and gave up going to homecomings and to play soccer.
And he's a kid, you know, outside looking in at
the college level right now. And when I tell you
he's one of the best players, I'm twenty eight years in.
He's the best forward I've ever coached in high school.
And he doesn't have a college He did not have
a college offer yet.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
The college landscape, especially with the offers, so say some teams, right,
they're investing in the really you know, the major sports football, basketball, right, baseball,
But with soccer it kind of sometimes it gets left aside.
Where you have a roster of twenty four and your
Division one program, they say, you have eleven scholarships, so
you got to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You got to split that up. So then far and
you know, if you come from abroad, the funding is different.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
They you know, they might have more final the financial
aid package is different. There's different programs they can get in,
so they have to get creative in the way they
attack it. And then obviously with the transferporter, like Bobby said,
so it's like there's no doubt this kid's a Division
one player, but how he's going to get there is
something that he's gonna have to process. Do I go
to a high academic D three and just stay at
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one school for four years? Or if my dream is
to get to that Division one level, I might have
to bounce around two times three times.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I get real quick, because we got like thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
But Bobby, if that kid that good, can he play
in a professional setting? Do you think like abroad? And
how do you get noticed like that?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
It's probably too late for that to happen for him.
I think McDermott what he's talking about with going into
the Union program young and living there and you know,
being an everyday player for them, that's probably to pay
as way to play in professional a lot more than
coming through high school and going to college.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I gotcha.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Probably the pathway to play and pro and being seen
and they because they do a great job of getting
you seen, right, I mean over So that's probably a
point play. The problem is getting into those programs right.
Always have the best twenty kids in those programs now,
because and listen, that's a whole nother thing.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Us.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
The US is like sixteenth in the world. We have
three hundred and fifty million people. If you add up
the top fifteen, it's to combine it's not many more
people than three hundred and fifty million, you know what
I mean? So what are we doing wrong with the
population we have playing soccer that the rest of the
world is getting right and that that's a whole other issue.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
But well, well I'm going to get you back because
we got World Cup coming up. This is a it's
gonna be a big year for soccer. Bobby, Awesome, congratulations
once again. You're fantastic, buddy. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah, we'll get you back on Bob. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Brother.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Great talking to you guys, love listening.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Thanks Pal.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
This is Project Atil right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Welcome to Project m I L. Danny D d A D.
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couple of things, and then I got a question from
a parent that I want to hit you up.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But we were, you were, we did our.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Top five, our top ten basketball and in fact you
mentioned the school in Indiana. Yes, right, yep, and uh
it's it's really interesting. Here's the kids. Banks to Bill Kittle,
who's checking in on Twitter, he said, the recruit out
(36:07):
of Fishers, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
He said that area is a sports powerhouse.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Westfield next door hosts the Regional Little League, hosts the
Regional Little League, the Regional Little League, Carmel, Fishers, Brownsburg, Noblesville, Westfield.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's a very wealthy area. They got great facilities.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
And you know, he said, you heard of Caitlyn Clark,
the Fevers spending seventy eight million.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Dollars on a facility.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wow, right, he said, last fall run into Gary Payton
in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
All right, like there it is.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
It's it's indian big hoops man.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, it's big time. And you know they're they're investing
in it. You can see it right, you know, the
Pacers had a big run. They have you know, they
have Kitland Clark there. I think the state's embracing it
in the high school is you know a part of it, right,
They're they're investing in it from the youth level up.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
So I love it and it's awesome, right Like this
is you know again, I know I have this argument
with people.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And we're gonna get to one of the parents questions.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
But I was arguing with a friend of mine about
this whole world. And look, I know it's professionalization of
youth sports, and I get it. But if we're putting
resources into kids and we're getting them active and playing,
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and I mean, that's not a bad How's that a
bad thing?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
No?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
For sure, No, I love it.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
I love when people get behind it, invested in and
you know, give these kids an opportunity to develop at
a high level and give them the opportunities, right.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I think that's all what it's all about.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
It that you know, at the high school level and
the youth sports level, and when people do it, it's great.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Things happened from it.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I think we're seeing the benefit now, uh, in in
professional sports. Like if you look at the receiver play
in football, it's so far better than the receiver player
of the past. Like these kids are making catches like
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they're they're toe taps, they're they're catches, their hands, the
uh you know, staying in bounds. You didn't see that.
This is a byproduct of today's athlete.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah, and that's with some of the individual work, right,
that's some stuff that they're practicing that in the past
that wasn't you know, emphasized as much or they didn't
spend enough time on. But with the specialization, they're practicing
that way more often than they have before.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Right.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
And then they're you know, the science behind it and
how you did you know your body's developing and the
weight training and you know, the agility and be training
is all at the high highest level it's ever been.
So these kids have the ability to really you know,
perfect the craft and you know, there's more talent, like
you said, than there ever been, especially at the skill positions.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
So h Brian am in Wisconsin wants to know what
at what age and we're gonna have been left there.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
At what age do you start training?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Like do you go out and get specific trainers h
for a sport?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah, it varies on the kid and the level that
I want them to love it first, right, but if
they're all in and they want to get better, I
don't see an issue, you know, seven eight years old
really diving into it. You really want to make sure
that the kid has a passion for it, right. You
don't want to force anything on them, but if they're
asking you, hey dad or hey mom, I want to
go out, and really, you know, play more, play more,
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I want to get better.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I want to get better.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I think it's you know, it's definitely an avenue to
look at and again be strategic with it, like we've
talked about in the past.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, like I would advise a pitch and I would
wait until like seven.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Yeah, case by case. But yeah, you know, continue to
ask us those questions.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
And we can help navigate it.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yes, yes, that's gonna do it for us, Danny, quickest
hour of my week. All right, great stuff, everybody, stay tuned.
Fellas coming up next,
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, good morning, good morning ever buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Welcome in. This is Project and I L Danny d
d A D Danny de Beernandena's athletic director of penn
Charter High School, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I'm Anthony Gargano and one
of the fellas.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Every week right here we.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Tackle Project ni L and uh so much going on
man in the world bits it's just ever changing.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Good morning, Danny.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
What's going on over there? Cauz, how we doing.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We're doing well. We're doing We're doing well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We got basketball practice today, So as soon as I'm done, like,
we'll do our project down il hour. Then the fellas
come on so Jeff Schwartz formerly the Giants will on
me and then uh I'll hi tell it to basketball practice.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Season changing, got a little mix now we have a
little football, a little basketball, you know, going on the
same time.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's my favorite time of year.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
The only thing is, can I be honest, I do
this every year. I I like when it's just football, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I know, And I love the you know, I love basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I love baseball, you know, help coach it for the
kids from you know, my oldest and my youngest and uh,
I love it. But man, I just like football to
go slow because it's such a blur.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I looked up.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I was just counting there's only three college Saturdays left
in football.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, it's I know. I mean that's a little depressing,
right that it's coming. You know when they start overlapping,
you know that.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, it's kind of doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That's the only that's that's it because I love the
basketball so but it's the only thing is that it's
coming to an end. And you know, we have this weekend,
we have next Saturday, and then of course is the
Thanksgiving you know, rivalry weekend, and then and then it's
Capital One ball season, which I actually love. I watch
(02:20):
all those bowl games and I love that stuff. What
I was having this conversation yesterday, what do you do
with playoff balls portal?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, it's it's difficult because these kids are trying to
you know, some you know, they might be buried on
a depth chart right out of school and they're in
a bowl, but they might be looking for a team.
You know, teams are starting to look that portal opens up,
and you have to really make a decision. Do you
do you stick it out with your team, or do
(02:58):
you try to position yourself to get portal early to
let us solidify yourself a spot on another team, So
let us fire yourself with some more money.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Right, It's it's a really tricky situation. It was.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
It was amplified last year with Penn State with bo
you know, the backup quarterback who you know we've done
certainty of what Drew Allen was doing, and you know.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
They were in the final four. He had to move
he you know, he had to get.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
In the portal and he ended up in Missouri and
he had a great season this year, but he had
to get in there because he didn't want to wait
for it to dry up or spots to be taken.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And it's difficult to navigate, right.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
So that we've discussed a few times, we really want
the portal to it should open after the full season ends.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yes, yes, yeah, you got to do it like it
can imagine college football, imagine NFL playoffs and a portal.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yeah, it's crazency starts, you know during the NFL season still.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Exactly like all of a sudden, the portals open free agency.
Well wait a second, we get to put you we
got actually games going on. It's crazy, you know, playoff
games crazy anyway, But we turned the pages a little
bit and let's talk a little hoops.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So I know you have compiled a list of your
top ten.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yes, sir, all right, so you got your top ten
project ani L twenty twenty five twenty six boys basketball rankings.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
So you know this is early, right, it's going to
change throughout the season. But going into the season, right
as these teams are revving up to start playing, looking
at what teams are returning right what time, what type
of rosters they've either returned or additions that they've added,
and uh yeah, we got top ten high school teams
in the country on the boy's side. Next week we'll
do the girls side, and you know, talk about each
(04:52):
one of these teams a little bit, all right. So
do we want to start at ten or do we
want to start at one?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
What do we want to know? I want to start
at ten. I like I like the drop right down. Yes,
Sean Bosco, huh yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
On the West Coast, they're led by two top twenties,
two guys in the top twenty six rankings. Christian Collins
is a small forward. He's ranked twelve, not committed yet.
And then NBA son Tajaisa, son of Trevor Resa.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Wow, Trevor's son.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Look at that hat and he's going to Oregon. Ranked
number seventeen the country. So you know California, right man,
I mean, they've been really high on our list as
far as football and basketball goes this year, but holding
down the number ten spot out in California.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Saint John Bosco, Bosco's legendary Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Always the school program.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, I always love Yeah, you always got a lot
of great talent football and basketball. I'm enamored with the
second generation.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
In fact, I want to do a book about the
second generation.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Well we fall on this list. There's more second generations
on this list, are there?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Really? It doesn't surprise me? All right? How about number nine?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, Fishers in Indiana, so smaller school, not you know,
really always known, but they finished the season strong really
last year, and they have one of the top point
guards in the twenty twenty seven class, Jason Gardner.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
He's a point guard. I'm committed, but he's a top.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You know fifty kid in the country, true point guard,
true general. And they just played the right way. They
finished the season really strong last year, made a run
in states, and I like them to be you know,
for an unknown nasty.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
In the top, you know, top ten, top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
They like the Hickory High.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Maybe a little Hickory, Yeah, a little Hoosiers out there.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, still some of the great.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's still the best.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
It's when I see him, when I see it on
like if I stumble upon it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, you know, to click and stick. I got I
have to. I gotta watch it. Yeah. Coach Norman Dale.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, man measures the hoop. It's ten feet no matter
where you go.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And now he doesn't realize, but now those kids can
get baid. What Jimmy Chip was going to make Now, man,
Jimmy Chit was going to cash with nil.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah he Jimmy Chit Will would have got a big
back from the Hoosiers to stay home.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And stayed Indiana. That's great, all right.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Number eight with that out of Minnesota. So Minnesota over
the years, basketball has been growing there. You know, they
jailing Suggs and chet Holmgren coming out of there recently,
so big program down to Minnesota. They have, you know,
a top one hundred shooting guard in the country, Christian
Wiggins and he's committed to a high Iowa state and uh,
(07:53):
you know they've been, you know, been a power of
Minnesota over the last couple of years, and I like
them to be in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's Christian Whiggins related.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
No no relation, no relation Andrews.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
There's a lot of great Wiggins.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
They are they are.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
We'll get you'll know the names when I get to
the number five team there and then number seven, uh,
Notre Dame Academy in California. They have the number one
player in the country, Tyrone Stokes.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
He's a small forward. He's a specimen.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
He's six seven, like two twenty he he's an absolute specimen.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Just yeah, it just overpowers you.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
He's not he's more of a score over than the facilitator,
but just overall sides, he's a specimen. They also have
a really good twenty seven. And then the Navarra Bowman junior.
There goes another one.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Wow. But Vara Bowman the football player.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, junior shooting guard.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
He's number he's the number forty fifth player in the
class of twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So nice little far bowman man he was he was
he was good.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, good defensive back.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm lying back. We talked about this.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
The genetics, man, it's been coming through through big you know,
on a larger scale recently, there's been a ton of
second generation guys that are even in different sports.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Well, I I what fascinates me about it is, uh,
you know, obviously the genetics is there, right, you know,
if your parent was a professional athlete, makes sense. But
the wisdom of being around it, right, Like, if you're
around it, you're there's a losmosis effect.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, you know for sure, So all right, keep ye
we're the number six staying nowt in the state of California,
Harvard Westlake.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
We have a top shooting guard in the country, Joe Sterling.
He's ranking the top one hundred and he's committed to Texas.
Very overall deep team.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
They got a bunch of guys, guys that are you know,
considered to be in the top three hundred in the country.
You know, just depth and guys who understand their role.
Really talented team.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
All right, question, So you mentioned he's now he's committed
to Texas. Yes, When when do most kids make their decision?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
That's actually interesting if you look at this year's high
school class, the twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Class, because it's a lot not commits, right, and.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
If you look in the top twenty, there's probably five commits.
It's later than ever before, and I think it's kids
are just really waiting to see how these you know,
rosters are shaking out, and they're trying to play hardball,
I think, on this nil piece and waiting to see
what the need is before they jump in. And the
top twenty you can do that. You see guys committed.
(10:51):
There's a lot more commitments in that class from twenty
five to one hundred.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
You know, it's very it's more common.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
So the better you get, the more you're almost betting
on yourself like a free age. It would like one
of your last year in contract. You're gonna wait, wait
to the latest so you could maximize your payout.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yep, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Did you think if in the top twenty, if only
five people are committed at this point in the season,
that's that's incredibly rare because signing days are happening, people
are on the clock, but in this nil environment, people
are being really patient and waiting to see, all right,
let me see how they start the season, right, Maybe
they'll panic and say, hey, we really got to invest
more in this kid.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
We need to make a splash.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Coaches you know, might be jocking to you know, solidify
their job for the following year. Right, So they kind
of waited out and wait and see how this plans
out plays out.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So what's the uh?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Because I read a piece about now kids are getting
actually paid in high school by the college.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, they can, you can start they can start playing you,
depending on the state while you're in high school, right,
And part of that is that contract is more it's
more valid than actually your letter of intent, and it
kind of locks you in.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Because if you're accepting money, it's a binding deal.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yes, so it does happen. It depends on the state
and it depends on university. But if you are committed
as a senior, they can start paying you, you know,
some of that money now, depending on where you are.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
All right, let's take the kid. Let's take the kid Bowman.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, he's non commit right, we don't have he's not
going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yet, Bowman junior.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Correct, So.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
If Bowman can he get nil money or endorsement money,
I should say, because it's not really anil because it's
not coming from a university.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But can he get endorses? It? Is that il right?
Because he can get say door Dash?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Can door Dash say man, I want Navarrol Bowman Junior.
He's got eight hundred thousand followers. I want to I
want to pay the post for us.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, that that is legal. Again, depends on the state
that they're in. Most states allowed.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I think it's down to like eight to ten that
are still in some type of limbo with it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
But most states where you are.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
You're allowed to be paid in high school and you're
allowed to take these type of deals.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's interesting because that's on top of well that will
be on top of your college deal. Like that's that's
a separate pool your endorsements.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
That and if you're getting those type of deals, you
have to have a massive social media filing, right, because you.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Know they want to get in early with you.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Right, Maybe they're thinking long term and saying, this kid's
going to be a big time professional athlete. We want
to get in the door now, right, we want to
be involved with him early on. But on the flip side,
also it you really have to have work to them
besides just them betting on you. Right, there has to
be a massive social media following, and a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Of these kids, when you're at the top of the top,
you have.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Millions of followers already, which is you know, a crazy
thing or hundreds of thousands of followers to really draw
people to your page, So it makes sense for them
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
On that side, are shoe companies allowed to come in now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, wow?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Now why wouldn't they come in, especially in basketball and
the jockeying of basketball. Why wouldn't you know, Nikey come
in to Navarro Bowman junior.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I think they'd like to wait till college, because there's
still a lot of uncertainty, right. You don't want to
lock yourself in and a kid not really playing out
pan out. They like to see you prove it at
a collegiate level maybe before they get in. But more
and more there's been collegiate deals, I mean even on
their women's side, like Juju at USC she signed a
deal with Jordan right while she was at USC, So
(14:55):
that that's become more and more common that these deals
are happening while you're a I would do that before
you get to the professional level.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
What happens if you sign you get a kid that
signs with you know, under armor and the school is
in Nikey School.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, that's I don't know the answer to that, probably
is I don't know if that's happened on a big
scale yet, so I'm not positive, but that would be.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But do you know what the scenario's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, it's wild. Anyway, let's continue.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
We'll continue on number five out of New York Archbishop
stepinac Now they're led by a brother pairing, Darius Ratliffe
and Adonis Ratliffe, both centers, both ranked in the top fifty,
and they're heading the USC next year.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Sons of THEO.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Wow, Theo's kids, the kids THEO ratlift Man.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I was wondering if that was it.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Wow check both seven footers both had the USC.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
They're ranked you know, thirty sixth and forty seventh in
the country.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
And they also have a shooting guard Josiah Jarvis. He's
ranked thirty seven going to Michigan State. So you can
see those kids are ranked and you know, the high
thirties to fifties and they committed right, which is what
we've kind of the theme we've been talking about but
based out of New York. A lot of talent. Twin
Towers brothers both going to USC too, which is interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, that's fast. What a story. That's a great story.
You got two kids, Twin Tower brothers.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, seven footers.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Wow, that's awesome. That's a good story.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, I love it. You know sixers when when they
were good, he was part of the.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Was it man?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, got traded in the the Kembe Mutumbo trade.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Very good, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
And then moving on, we have a Wheeler out of Georgia.
They're always been a kind of a power, big time
public school in Georgia, known for football and basketball. They're
led by Calvin Landrew. He's a shooting guard, number twenty
seven in the country.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
He's committed to Yukon.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And they have a.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Twenty seven Kevin Savage, who's a point guard and he's
ranked forty four in the class of twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Uncommitted.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
All right, number three, we have Sierra Canyon. Now they
are a dominant on the boys and girls side. They're
coming up in football. They are becoming a power out
in California. That's where you know Bronni Lebron James kids went.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh right, right, right, they have.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I knew of them before they were there, but since
Lebron's kids went there, it's been they've been on a
trajectory where they've really been competitive in some of these
major sports and stay consistent, you know, because Lebron's kids
aren't there anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Right.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
They have Brandon McCoy just transferred in. He's a combo
guard number three in the country uncommitted. They have a
Maximo Adam's small forward, number twenty in the country, and
they name have a kid, Jordan Maiz who's a shooting
guard rank sixty. So they have that's a lot of
three kids in the top sixty and the number three
overall player in the class.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That's a lot of time. Now, are they recruiting nationally?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yes, they get kids that transfer in across the country
multiple you know, every year. I think they get a
kid that Wight will come from outside.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
The state of California. Right, wow, that's wild number two.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
And you know a team that's been in the top
ten perennially for the last five to ten years out
of Virginia. But they play in that Baltimore DC Virginia
Elite League down there. Paul the sixth, and they have
the number six player in the country.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Jordan Smith. He's uncommitted shooting guard.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Dukes in on him, Oregon's and on him, so he's
an elite player. But Paul the six is always the
top you know, five to ten team in the country.
And they're really well coached and they you know, come
from a really talentedly.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
They played in the league with Gonzaga Saint John's.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
You know, like, oh yeah, yeah, that's a big that's
a great Baltimore area.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So uh yeah, that's a great that's a great league.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
The Elite League.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I think it's fair and you and I should take
a right I like to see some of that ball.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I think it's the best league in the country because
every year they have three teams in the top twenty
five for one.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, you know, I like to see a couple of
those games.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
They're they're they're they're interesting. Yep.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I drummer one number one, so Columbus out of Florida.
So last year that was where the Boozer Twins were.
Oh yeah, and we thought they'd take a step back,
but they're not. They have the number eleven player in
the class, Caleb Gapskin, he actually committed.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
To Miami and then one more time.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
For the linear Jackson and Richardson, son of Jason. So
the brother was at Michigan State last year. Now is
in the NBA, and uh Jackson Richardson is a small
forward rank number twenty two in the class. He's uncommitted,
but another four I'm aroun NBA son leading the way
over there.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So well, can you imagine you have two sons playing
Pro Bowl?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
That's going to happen. I mean, at least that's what
the path looks like right now with.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Towers and well, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That's it's that's cool. So how good are they that
at Columbus great?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I mean they they dominated, they the boothers, you know,
the brothers who kind of were elite and everyone in
a U Championships and they were a top five team
in the country, top ten team in the country the
last two to three years.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
And they're keeping it rolling, man, So to see how
it shakes out.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But I love it.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Top ten there it is project that I will tweet
that out the project nil top ten lists heading into
the seasons, seasons begins, all right, coming out, are we
talking soccer?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
We're gonna talk from soccer.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Today.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
We have a coach, Bobby Debadet, longtime coach in the
Philadelphia area with club programs. I'm lucky enough to work
with him at William Pencharter. He just won the Interact
Championship this year, which is a very very competitive soccer.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm want to talk to World Cup with him too,
and on a youge soccer and uh, you know where
it's headed. I think that's a great story. Looking forward
to talking to coach Bobby d that's coming up next.
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talk a little soccer today. Dan, we got with us
(22:46):
a terrific coach from your school, a guy that's been
around it for a long time, coach Bobby diabetandetto coach
Bobby d Good.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Morning, Good morning, glorious. The congratulations on your championship.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Thank you very much, Thank you very much. Long time
coming for pennch Arder. All those programs there have been
shut out the last three years. Outside of our great
basketball program last year. We haven't won a championship since
twenty sixteen on the boy side, in any sport, so
it's a big deal for the school. It's great to
have Danny Gan win a couple of championships early and
(23:27):
hopefully we can keep it rolling under the winter.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Coach, let's go, man, what is the as an ad?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Congratulations to you Dan on your first uh he just
started this school and you get your first champ, your
first chip.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Man, you know I'm just there to try to help
god these coaches and give them the resources. You know
this when you come in fresh it's you know, it's
it's a lot of stuff's already been established.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
So Bobby already had the groundwork.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
He laid it out and you know I just kind
of jumped on at the end and try to do
whatever I can to help, you know, grow the program development.
But you know, the credit goes to him and his
staff for all they've done leading up to this. You know,
it doesn't happen overnight. It builds over year after year.
And he has a phenomenal culture and the kids, you know,
(24:17):
they want to they want to run through a wall
for him.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
So credit to him and his staff. And you know,
I was just happy to be there and watch it happen.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Coach, I got a bunch of questions.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Give me where high school soccer fits in when you
have all the club teams, right, because the club teams
as you go through youth are so big, so pronounced.
And then you have teams like the Union have their academy.
How does high school soccer fit in with a lot
(24:52):
of the big clubs that kids are playing.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
On off.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
So we've seen it change so much through the years, right,
So this is my twenty eighth year coach in high
school soccer. I've been involved in clubs in the meantime,
which I don't do anymore because I just can't vibe
with that culture. To be honest with you, I'm not
at one sport person. I think we to you know, Danny,
you have Ganny talked about that a couple of weeks ago.
(25:24):
And even these smaller clubs are starting to come to
the point where they want you just to specialize in
soccer young and they don't want you to play in
high school. And you know, you got to kind of
jock you for a position to get your guys just
to play in games. Forget about practice. I mean it's
an irison piece practice, they don't. I got to make
(25:45):
sure that they're throwing up for games. I was very
fortunate this year where my boys my MLS Next Kids,
which is a which is a level of club ball
on a high, very high level. But you know, they
all got exemptions and they were able to play high
school on their club. But you know, they're playing for
me five six days a week, going to practice for
(26:06):
club three nights a week, and then playing on the
weekends for their club. So it's a lot of soccer.
It wears them down, and it's starting to force kids.
You know, it's really making kids pick one one way
or the other. And it's just it's a shame that
it's set up that way because you know, they're sold
to bill of Goods and you know there's going to
be a lot of coaches here this weekend. Well, and
how are their coaches coming out on a Saturday when
(26:27):
they're coaching their college teams?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
You know, So yeah, that's wild. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I mean they tell me how this coach is coming,
and that coach is coming, and I look at that
coach's schedule and you know he did Buck Noll coaching
that weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Or you know, or they're up there right.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
So I did a really good job of finding the
balance right and talking to the kids and being realistic
about expectations. And I think it's really important for coaches
out there that are dealing with this to have these
conversations early, right, and Bobby will sit down.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
And say, hey, like, this is what I need of you.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Right, if you want to be a part of my team,
you have to be here, this, this and this, and
we want to.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Help you be a part of it. But whole also
be flexible and saying, hey.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Like, I understand you have a big you know, big
weekends and big tournaments, and we can find ways to
get your breaks and work you in and out of
the lineup. So I think being creative with it because
the environment's changing and I know it's challenging for coaches,
but to not have a hard line and kind of
address it by the situation and the student athlete.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Bobby did a phenomenal job manage.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
It because we did have kids that are high level
soccer players that have to navigate these really difficult schedules.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So if you're not well, give me, Like, if you
have a high level kid, give me his week, like
Cowmedy games, he playing well.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
I mean he's playing at least two for us. Right
during the season, Balm, we're in league, we try to
stick to two games of leek just are two league
games before the season starts. Before October one, we try
to fit in three games a week. Luckily, in our
in our conference, in our in our association, we're allowed
to play as many games as we want. And I'm
a big Montsouri guy. I learned. We learned through play, right,
(28:06):
We get better by playing. Yeah, yeah, you know you're
complaining every day, man, But at seventeen and eighteen years old,
dribbling around a cone for me.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Is kind of like a waste of time, right, those skills,
Yeah yeah, I never saw.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Cone jump out and try to steal a ball from
you or tackle you from behind them. I want to
see how you react to that. Right this way, when
I get into the league, and Daniel tay our non
league schedule is rigorous. We're in Cincinnati. Next year, we're
down in DC. Next year we go up, we go
up to New Jersey and New York to play. You know,
(28:44):
we try to play the best competition around. Some of
that just being the thought of your Catholic league is Daniel,
tell you Roman, Ryan, Saint Jose Prepp, Father Judge, Like,
there are the games that make us better. But we're
playing three games a week and then they're going to
tournaments on the weekend. So in a lot of those
on league games, I'll give I'll give those guys half
the game or some of them. You know, I just
(29:06):
tell them, you got to tell me how you feel,
you know, because the league really is the most important thing.
And I kind of understand. And I think my staff
on the stands with those players are capable of doing them,
you know, in game. So you know, maybe some of
the other guys we had to we had to get
them battle tested a little bit. But it is a balance.
But you know, we've had we had a kid run
(29:26):
cross country this year and not only did he run
cross country, he's gone to college for cross country. He
was just on our team a lot of games.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Uh wow.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
We had three wow, three kids kick footballs this year.
So you're always balancing schedules. But that's what you should
be doing in high school. That's what I feel bad about.
These kids missing that experience because you know, they're running
out of school sometime headed to their club practice and
missing all the other things that they should be doing
as a high school athlete.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I was talking to Uh, there's a guy, Tim McDermot
who runs to fill up he union of the MLS
and was saying that your your academy team, like this
commitment like you have to sign sign and you can't
miss certain things and and it's an all year around deal.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah, me and Bobby have talked about and Bobby could
go a little bit more. That is like such a
small percentage right of the population that are at that
type of high, high level where they're trying to make
the MLS or trying to you know, play professionally. So again,
navigating that is important, but it's important also to have
coaches who understand that balance. And Bobby does a phenomenal
(30:43):
job about it. But Bob, you can talk about that
that small percentage.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
So you know, there's I think I gave you a
number standing if they're in mind, I think there's it
says there's like close to four million kids that play
you soccer in this country to a lot of kids,
four million, right, and I think we have internationally and domestically,
I think we have under four hundred players that play professionally.
So think about that in your head, right and if
(31:10):
you look at that's just one little thing. I mean
you're talking about a minor, minor percent that go pro.
But even Division one soccer players now if you look
at a Division one roster on a bad team, it's
two thirds foreign and then the transfer portal. Right, so
if you're looking at Division one rosters, you're looking at kids.
They don't have their high schools listed, they have their
first two colleges listed, and most of them are from
(31:31):
outside the country. That's what Division one rosters are compiled
on that for the most part, I mean even locally.
You can look at our local programs, I mean Temple
with dau saying close, they're loaded up with internationals, right,
you know, it's really difficult for a kid like I have,
probably and Danie'll tell you, probably one of the best
players in the area issue and he's All State, he's
(31:54):
also out Eastern Pennsylvania. He's first team All Interact and
he's the MVP of the week. He's got some of
the best vision i'd seen, I mean ball skill, you
know he's got at all. But he's under six foot
and he's an America. He's a senior at the end
of the season, and he doesn't have an offer yet,
and he's an MLS next kid who's dedicated time and
money and gave up, I mean gave up going to
(32:15):
proms and gave up going to homecomings and to play soccer.
And he's a kid, you know, outside looking in at
the college level right now. And when I tell you
he's one of the best players, I'm twenty eight years in.
He's the best forward I've ever coached in high school.
And he doesn't have a college He did not have
a college offer yet.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
The college landscape, especially with the offers, so say some teams, right,
they're investing in the really you know, the major sports football, basketball, right, baseball,
But with soccer it kind of sometimes it gets left aside.
Where you have a roster of twenty four and your
Division one program, they say, you have eleven scholarships, so
you got to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You got to split that up. So then far and
you know, if you come from abroad, the funding is different.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
They you know, they might have more final the financial
aid package is different. There's different programs they can get in,
so they have to get creative in the way they
attack it. And then obviously with the transferporter, like Bobby said,
so it's like there's no doubt this kid's a Division
one player, but how he's going to get there is
something that he's gonna have to process. Do I go
to a high academic D three and just stay at
(33:19):
one school for four years? Or if my dream is
to get to that Division one level, I might have
to bounce around two times three times.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I get real quick, because we got like thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
But Bobby, if that kid that good, can he play
in a professional setting? Do you think like abroad? And
how do you get noticed like that?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
It's probably too late for that to happen for him.
I think McDermott what he's talking about with going into
the Union program young and living there and you know,
being an everyday player for them, that's probably to pay
as way to play in professional a lot more than
coming through high school and going to college.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I gotcha.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Probably the pathway to play and pro and being seen
and they because they do a great job of getting
you seen, right, I mean over So that's probably a
point play. The problem is getting into those programs right.
Always have the best twenty kids in those programs now,
because and listen, that's a whole nother thing.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Us.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
The US is like sixteenth in the world. We have
three hundred and fifty million people. If you add up
the top fifteen, it's to combine it's not many more
people than three hundred and fifty million, you know what
I mean? So what are we doing wrong with the
population we have playing soccer that the rest of the
world is getting right and that that's a whole other issue.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
But well, well I'm going to get you back because
we got World Cup coming up. This is a it's
gonna be a big year for soccer. Bobby, Awesome, congratulations
once again. You're fantastic, buddy. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah, we'll get you back on Bob. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Brother.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Great talking to you guys, love listening.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Thanks Pal.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
This is Project Atil right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Welcome to Project m I L. Danny D d A D.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
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(35:28):
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couple of things, and then I got a question from
a parent that I want to hit you up.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But we were, you were, we did our.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Top five, our top ten basketball and in fact you
mentioned the school in Indiana. Yes, right, yep, and uh
it's it's really interesting. Here's the kids. Banks to Bill Kittle,
who's checking in on Twitter, he said, the recruit out
(36:07):
of Fishers, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
He said that area is a sports powerhouse.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Westfield next door hosts the Regional Little League, hosts the
Regional Little League, the Regional Little League, Carmel, Fishers, Brownsburg, Noblesville, Westfield.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's a very wealthy area. They got great facilities.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
And you know, he said, you heard of Caitlyn Clark,
the Fevers spending seventy eight million.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Dollars on a facility.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wow, right, he said, last fall run into Gary Payton
in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
All right, like there it is.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
It's it's indian big hoops man.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, it's big time. And you know they're they're investing
in it. You can see it right, you know, the
Pacers had a big run. They have you know, they
have Kitland Clark there. I think the state's embracing it
in the high school is you know a part of it, right,
They're they're investing in it from the youth level up.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
So I love it and it's awesome, right Like this
is you know again, I know I have this argument
with people.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And we're gonna get to one of the parents questions.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
But I was arguing with a friend of mine about
this whole world. And look, I know it's professionalization of
youth sports, and I get it. But if we're putting
resources into kids and we're getting them active and playing,
(37:38):
and I mean, that's not a bad How's that a
bad thing?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
No?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
For sure, No, I love it.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
I love when people get behind it, invested in and
you know, give these kids an opportunity to develop at
a high level and give them the opportunities, right.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I think that's all what it's all about.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
It that you know, at the high school level and
the youth sports level, and when people do it, it's great.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Things happened from it.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I think we're seeing the benefit now, uh, in in
professional sports. Like if you look at the receiver play
in football, it's so far better than the receiver player
of the past. Like these kids are making catches like
(38:23):
they're they're toe taps, they're they're catches, their hands, the
uh you know, staying in bounds. You didn't see that.
This is a byproduct of today's athlete.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah, and that's with some of the individual work, right,
that's some stuff that they're practicing that in the past
that wasn't you know, emphasized as much or they didn't
spend enough time on. But with the specialization, they're practicing
that way more often than they have before.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Right.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
And then they're you know, the science behind it and
how you did you know your body's developing and the
weight training and you know, the agility and be training
is all at the high highest level it's ever been.
So these kids have the ability to really you know,
perfect the craft and you know, there's more talent, like
you said, than there ever been, especially at the skill positions.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
So h Brian am in Wisconsin wants to know what
at what age and we're gonna have been left there.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
At what age do you start training?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Like do you go out and get specific trainers h
for a sport?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah, it varies on the kid and the level that
I want them to love it first, right, but if
they're all in and they want to get better, I
don't see an issue, you know, seven eight years old
really diving into it. You really want to make sure
that the kid has a passion for it, right. You
don't want to force anything on them, but if they're
asking you, hey dad or hey mom, I want to
go out, and really, you know, play more, play more,
(39:50):
I want to get better.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I want to get better.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I think it's you know, it's definitely an avenue to
look at and again be strategic with it, like we've
talked about in the past.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, like I would advise a pitch and I would
wait until like seven.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Yeah, case by case. But yeah, you know, continue to
ask us those questions.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
And we can help navigate it.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yes, yes, that's gonna do it for us, Danny, quickest
hour of my week. All right, great stuff, everybody, stay tuned.
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