The Fellas With Anthony Gargano & Geoff Schwartz preview a jam-packed weekend in College Football, talk Patriots hype & discuss Week 11 NFL Matchups!

On a new episode of The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Geoff Schwartz, the guys discuss the hype revolving around Drake Maye MVP talk & how surprising the Patriots have been this season. The guys dive into some of the major storylines as we head into Week 11 of the NFL and the college football world, then Big Brain Brad joins the show for all the best bets in college football and the NFL, heading into the weekend! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, Happy Happy week twelve.
We got three Saturdays left before ball season.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Anthony Gargato.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
He is Captain Duck, Captain Quack, mister Oregon Duck, himself
Jeff Schwartz, and we come thelive from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. Good morning, Captain Quack. I like you had
your you had your squad last night with an easy one.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, it's nice to not have to stress on Saturday
about your team playing.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Good morning.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yeah, nice win for the old old Duckies last night.
You know, it's such a different vibe in college football
now because of the expanded postseason, when you're rooting for
a team that you know is a playoff hopeful, right,
and you'll last night we were twenty eight point favorites, however,
were it's Minnesota, we're at home, and it felt very

(01:05):
much to me like a like a pro vibe where
it just sort of just like, just just get to win,
Like who cares what the results are, like actual end up,
you know, the actual score of the game, Like, just
just get a win and move on along the next week,
be healthy, and then let the committee figure it out.
You know, we have a couple of right opponents probably
left on our schedule. So I appreciate the easy win

(01:27):
last I do not think it'd be that easy. We
just came back from Iowa playing that super physical game
six days ago, and Minnesota's not good. I mean, don't
get me wrong. I mean they're six and three. They
just had played poorly against the better teams they've played.
And easy wain one thing I appreciate, and I don't
think that maybe gets enough credit for this, But our coach,

(01:48):
Dan Lanning, I believe, is now forty three and seven
as a head coach in four years we've lost one
big ten game in two seasons. Is that against teams
we dominate bad teams and we win the games we
should and we're getting better at winning the games. Maybe
we shouldn't, but there's a skill in that. It's kind

(02:11):
of nice. Is a fan of a college team. We
look at leaving last night, like Louisville played atrocious against Clemson.
Now that was a three point spread, don't get me
wrong there, but you know it's a four win Clemson team, right.
We know they have their issues, but think about all
the games today that we're going to have you know,
these favorites that struggle, right, we saw last week Virginia
lost as a double digit favorite, Louisville lost last week

(02:34):
as a nineteen point favorite. How many times is Miami
this year loss is a double digit favorite. So the ability,
I think to just win the games you should is
so refreshing as a college sports fan. And then of course,
you know, you go on the road last week and
you get out of a close win against Iowa, so
you know, we're doing things we have to do. But
it's nice to root for a team that just handles

(02:54):
business when they're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you could say that with
college and the NFL, right, especially in the NFL, with
the types of losses that we have seen and the parody.
I think it's a product of of parody, like when
you and there's gonna be an art to winning the

(03:16):
games you should win.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
NFL is a little different, I think, because in the end,
the talent is much closer even in games where you
should win.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Right, Well, that's what I'm talking. But I think that's
way college now, like it's all that suit.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I think the top it's much closer that's ever been
I don't think Minnesota is very close to.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Or well, I'm not talking about your game. I mean
you should have. I mean, I'll be honest with you.
I mean what we do. Yeah, I mean was it
a cover? Uh yeah? Because what was the number twenty
seven and a half something like that covered.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
We also first game we played in a month basically
with no rape and are we threw for three hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
That was nice.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I had people so funny were questioning Organ's passing gay
because the last two games have been played in monsoons
and cold weather and rain. And we played one game
in the last month without any weather and we threw
for three hundred yards. Thought they more. Last night I
set a completion record for Organ ninety percent completion percentage
minimum twenty passes. He was twenty seven to thirty for

(04:23):
three hundred yards. And that's out without our best wide
receiver and we only had four healthy whyous last night?
So good, good, good win. But that's that's all it is.
And we've got usc next week.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Now. Yeah, there you go, there you go, all right,
watch to get to.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I want a little bit of Mike Vrabel Drake May
Appreciation Day, because I mean, I cannot tell you that's
the Jets. So it's the same thing, right, it's Minnesota,
but it's the Jets. The Jets are the wretched. So
the Patriots should have want and it should have won easy.

(05:02):
But just if you just singularly watch Drake May play quarterback,
he's just so good.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I love watching him throwing football.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I love watching him his from pre snap to execution.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
He's just a terrific player. Man.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
So it's very knowledge a Patriots do have an easy schedule.
Whatever's gonna point to that is the reason why they're good,
and that's fair. I mean, you're gonna have these schedules.
But the number one reason is Drake May is really
good and in whatever they have done this year with
Josh mcdaniels's calling plays and obviously the influence of Rabel,

(05:44):
Drake May is an elite quarterback and he is getting
better what feels like every week, which is impressive. He's
doing this, minds you. Without Stefan Diggs was sort of
left for dead, like like, oh, it's thirteen in three years.
Got from Diggs and the rest of the wide receiving
group is like not great, It's fine. No one would

(06:05):
trade wide receiver rooms with the Patriots. Now you have
an offensive line that I thought, I think has gotten
better throughout the season, but it's not great. It's not
great offensive line. So you're doing all of this.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
You've got a rookie basically a rookie running back now because.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, actually over rookie left tackle. Like, you have a
young team that is going to get better throughout the season.
And yes, the schedule is is easier, but I want
to make this acknowledgment we just talked about Oregon being
up in Minnesota, is that when you're a good team,
you should routinely beat the bad teams on your schedule.

(06:44):
Buy a lot of points like the now an NFL
is different than a lot of points jucker, whatever you
get by thirty, but you should feel comfortable in the win.
And that was that was a very comfortable win for
New England. And that's what you should do when you're
playing bad football team. So I I am impressed by
New England acknowledging that you know, they're not I don't

(07:06):
think the greatest team with the record they have, but
that they're they're playing the football anyways.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, and I'm a you know, listen, I think you're
right that it starts with Drake May. But you know,
Vrabel deserves a tonic, right, And you're just buttoned up.
When you have a.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Good coach, you just are a buttoned up team.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You notice better than anybody like you got a guy
that has an attention to details, right, that just knows
how to do it. You know, you look at McVeigh, right,
you look at you look at these guys that know
how to do it and have an attention to detail.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Rabel's teams are buttoned up. He's a great coach. Yeah,
they're also prepared for everything well, be buttoned up. Yes,
I'm not sure that.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I really love to weeks ago the way they handled
the end of the first half of Tampa Bay where
they just decided to basically punt on one of the
plays and he near the goal line, but it ended
up scoring in the end. And again I think there's
a lot of fault in what he did there, But
the point is that he was prepared to do something
a little bit different and execute and in a half
situation where they purposely try to try to kill the

(08:19):
clock right to not let Tampa have the ball.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
So for those people didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
In fact, I had a long discussion yesterday with people
have Mike Garry Folla from the NFL Network. So it's
right before halftime against Tampa and there's about a minute
and change.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Warner and Tampa had no timeouts.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Right and basically it's first and goal at the one,
and he's trying to kill clock like a Madden game.
So it's just like a Madden game. He's like, well,
I'll have Drake May basically laid down at the one.
Therefore we're going to kill clock. The issue is it

(09:00):
he took him the fourth down and go for it
on fourth down to score the touchdown, and he had
to throw the diggs because Tampa's got a good front
and they tried to run him on second, third and
second third down stuff couldn't get there, so.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
They go four on fourth.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
He risked not scoring before halftime by giving up and down.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
So I thought that was ludicrous because this is not
to the point, it's not mad at but it's also
just not the end of the game, Like, you are
not guaranteed to score points in that situation. You're down
ten to seven. Now you do the baar of the half.
I grant you that and that's why they were able
to sort of do this. But you can't turn down

(09:45):
points that early in the game, and there was no
guarantee you're gonna score the next two plays to your point.
You got stuffed on second down and third down, and
then fourth down took an incredible catch by Stefan Diggs
where he toe tapped the back of the end zone
to get his fee. So it wasn't like even had
a great play on fourth and one to score a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
And it worked out.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
They scored with four seconds ufs and a half and
Tampa didn't get the ball back. But man, that felt
like very, very risky, and I didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I didn't like it. That worked.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
It worked, but I didn't like it because I thought.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Jarnie, you and I saw it the same way. I
didn't like it either. I was arguing Mike Garretfoula for
the NFL Network was love it.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
He said, I love it, and I said, listen, I
get it. But to me, you can't risk it again.
I go back to the maddening analogy, like you can't
risk giving up points there.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's not a given that you're going to score, so
especially against a team like Tampa and not in.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
It works because it's not real life, real life, it's
real life. And so I didn't like it. I know
it worked and get credit for that, but he went
not a long explaining to you what they lost that
game by three points and they turned down a field
goal and they turned down opportunity there to score points. Again,
I don't think you can do that in this sport,

(11:05):
just just voluntarily turned down points. So again, the point
of this isn't to talk about that play, but the
point is that the Patriots are prepared for everything. Whether
I like it or not, they are prepared right that
that was a play they had practiced, and I've seen
a situation they had practiced and had talked about and
they executed in the end. So I give very able

(11:26):
credit for being able to have those sort of packages
of plays and that those ideas up for his team.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, and ultimately, uh, we're talking about how buttoned up
and what a great coach he is. Even though I
may disagree with the where you and I may both
disagree with the decision, he's a terrific coach man.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
And they are prepared and they just execute.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
So this brings me to your team, the Giants, and
what to look for in the next coach. Now, Belichick
said he will not look at NFL jobs.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, I won't look at Mary and Sidney Swingey either.
You have to be offered the opportunity to do those
things to not to turn them down.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Though right there was a report it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
There was a report earlier in the week that said
the Giants would be interested in Belichick if there was no.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Girlfriend and no Mike Lombardi.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
So so I'm interested you if you just do everything
different than you're doing.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Now, leave Michaelmbarti or GM for whatever yours and your girl, yeah,
leave her be all right, he's not part of the program.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
So really they didn't really want Belichick. Okay, how funny that?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, I mean, if you're the Giants, you don't want
that to you. If you're the Giants, you go, hey, Bill,
you want to be serious.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I don't think the Giants are actually would actually consider
Bill Belich check.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I don't know either, but my point is is that
if you you would, you would be interested if you
didn't have the sideshow with you.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
But the side show is now part of who he is. Like,
that's that's the problem right now. What's funny is like
this college teams actually might make a bowl game. They're
playing much better. No one's talking about it, but they are.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
They are playing much better.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Man, Defensively, they're playing much better. Yeah, offensively, they're still
a rack, but that's because.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
They don't have talent. And the one thing that I
thought was unfair for him is and even for Lombardy,
which is you're not going to go overnight and turn
up North Carolina into some powerhouse overnight, Like it's going
to take time to recruit, you know, work the portal,

(13:52):
work the system. You're not doing that overnight.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I think I disagree a little bit because we have
seen I'm not saying you have to win ten games
in year one, but we have seen teams get much
better in year one with the portal. My concern continues
to be the same thing is that in New England,
one of his downfalls was that at the end he

(14:17):
could he never was able to draft good offensive football players.
And you look at it right now and they don't
have good offensive football players, and and there's no track
record of any recent you know, success doing that, and
So that's my concern. I mean, now you obviously have
to you know, have to pivot on offense next you know,

(14:38):
next year, to find those guys that are able to
I never waited.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
But it's also what you're collective.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I don't know what his collective is, uh, you know,
compared to you know, Texas Tech, I don't know what work.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
You know, he can't compare. Well, that's my point to you,
which is.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's it's you know, it's easy to go, Yeah, just
rebuild it through the poor. Well, first of all, I
need the collective to do that. Second of all, I
got to be a little bit established before I can
get players to buy into me.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well, wasn't there allure of Bill Belichick is that the
players are.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Oh but I gotta I have a program, Like all
of a sudden, I go, like, you have to buy
in North Carolina as well.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh, I know.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
But the hiring of Bill Belichick with the point of
it was that you bought Belichick.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Right, that was the point of that.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, because he's a he's a great football mind.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, but he's the get better football players, which confused
to be the problem. So we'll see what he does
in the year two. I don't have much faith in
that part of the experiment. I don't think he's going
to find the football player is good enough to win
the level he wants in Carolina.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
So you're saying he doesn't know what he's looking at.
I don't think when it comes with a player, he
can't evaluate talent.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
I think, and I mean we saw in the NFL
he couldn't do it in the last five years on offense.
Why would he do it better with seventeen year worlds?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I don't know. I mean you know again, I don't know.
Sometimes draft boards fall a certain way. Sometimes you know,
you look at a guy and you are wrong. Like
you said, sometimes player isn't available. Sometimes you there there
is a there, there is a change. When you lose
a Hall of Fame court and the best quarterback ever
to play, and you move away from that, there is

(16:25):
a period of time where you have to, you know,
restock it.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's going to take a minute. What do you think?
What do you think? What do you think bell best
record North Carolina will be?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I don't know. I mean again, I don't know. There's
a lot of factors. I don't know it will be.
I'm only giving you a pushback with you, like, you
can't tell me that overnight.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
He doesn't know talent.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think offensively he doesn't. He doesn't have a good
eye for for what talent to bring in help his teams.
I think defensively he's always been able to do that.
He's been a great coach. But looking at his draft
picks on offense the last five drafts in New England,
it's not even just quarterback. It's it's wide receiver, it's
offensive line, it's all those things.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
So now, I mean you paint with a broad butt,
but with a broad brush.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I have to go back and look a look at
the drafts, and there is a natural when the when
you lose Brady, you're going to have a fall off.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I mean, of course, I don't fault him for the
lack of success in New England. I just find it.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I just find it out what you say that that
he can't all of a sudden he woke up and went, oh,
I don't know offensive players.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I don't know where I'm looking at.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
I mean, I'm just going off of the results of
the players he brought in in New England.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
And listen, I granted the last two drafts weren't good.
I guess it started with the with the pandemic. I
gotta go back and look at it. I don't I
don't have the draft board in front of me. I
mean by just remembering he did, you know, I remember
the pandemic draft was bad. There was a couple of
bad drafts in there. But there is something that there

(18:07):
is a nutrition that takes place when you win.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I think I've always contained maintained he can still coach
or whatever he can. We all agree on that.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
It's a it's a matter of just acquiring the right
talent in North Carolina to win at the level that
you know they want to win at. And so you
know they have a good recruiting class now. But I
think they're gonna have to hit the portal again. And
the selling point obviously money matters talking about all the time,
but the selling point of Belichick. I don't know if
if players automatically go to Carolina because Belichick is there,

(18:37):
and so we'll find out that. Look, if he gets
to a bowl game this year, it'll be great. Have
a chance you other than have to win one more game,
I think to get to make a bowl and then
you know, we'll see this offseason if if that propels
him into getting a better quarterback.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, well I means me all right, lots to get to.
On the other side, I want to know who you
want as the next coach to your squad, all right,
because I had my guy and I it's they got
to marry him.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Just marry him. I'll tell you who mine is next.
I want to hear yours. I have. I have a
feeling now who that's gonna be. You do is it is? It?
Is it?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
We'll find out, We'll find out. I'm looking forward to it.
Fellas just getting started. You got to you got an
off day today? No no, no ducks today. I wonder
what missus Schwartz has him doing today.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
She's even no organ played yesterday. Body, you know that's great?
Where the fellas?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
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All right, now, let's talk talk about it. Giants, you
get a head start dable out. Who would you look to.
I'm gonna tell you you gotta finally marry spags.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yes, Oh, I thought you're gonna go somewhere else with this. Okay,
who did you think I was gonna go McDaniels, Well, you.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Said Mary together, and I thought you were gonna go
with the Lane Train to marry him with with with
with with Jackson Dart. That's what I thought. I thought
you outside outside the box. I thought I was like, oh, yeah, okay,
lane train, all right, I inspect okay.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, no, when I when I do that, yes, you know,
I mean obviously you know. I I just assumed the
Lane Train staying in uh in the.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Sec is gonna have an alligator on his polo shirt.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I think in a couple of weeks. But I was
sticking the same thing. You saw that, you saw what
I saw? Oh I I am I. I didn't see anything.
I've been pretty much told that's gonna happen. So we'll
see really well.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
But but then again, look, I get told a lot
of stuff and then me anything. But I there's no
seculator here. We'll say, look last thing in Lane quickly.
But just I'm here, talk to the brain about this later.
So there is a lot of rumors about Lane going
to Florida this week right and as of right now,
they play Florida today. Old miss does the line on

(22:19):
this game got us high as seventeen and a half
and yesterday plummeted, plummeted back down to eleven and a half.
Makes no sense unless like Ward is out, that lane
is leaving and today is going to be a disaster
from his team. We know in coll football, you know,
these teams that sort of think they're their coach going
to leave don't play very well. That that's why he

(22:39):
really intrauced me. Because the number came down six points
like it's a dead Florida team. It makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I'm serious, that Florida team that Kentucky boat raced last week.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, the number is I haven't looked this morning because
it's early, and I did dene look at numbers yet today,
but it was eleven half yesterday. I got us high
seventeen and a half this week, and it plummeted to
eleven last night. So that's why that's why I'm like, oh,
is there a little lane information coming out soon?

Speaker 3 (23:04):
So interesting to note as we had in two games.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
All right, let me look at it. Let me look
at it. Wow, that's it. That's dramatic. It's it's dramatic
without it without any injury news. I don't know if
Chambliss is out today. Oh well, that's what I mean.
I first thought it had to be injury.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
But there's been no reports of injuries, and so even then,
I mean, Vegas knows if there's injuries, and there's been
nothing of injuries. So that's why the Lane thing is interesting.
That's why I didn't know if it was like eleven
and a half right now, Yeah, if you were gonna
throw out lane to me. As far as the Giants coach,
which I don't think is happening, but I think the Florida.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Thing is real.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, I thought all along that it's Florida or LSU
and they back up the Trump you know.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
So back to the topic of hand though. Spags Huh
as my chiefs fan and I would hate to see
him go, but he deserves another opportunity to be a
head coach.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
So all right, let me make my case your honor.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
So when he when he takes the job in Saint Louis,
remember what he did, you know, went to the Super Bowl,
the Hall thing. He's the hot he's the hot guy.
He goes to Saint Louis. In fact, they admitted recently
that he had. They had no interest in even winning.
They were trying to move the team to La They

(24:25):
had it was all during the move period where they were.
They were trying to move the franchise. He got no support.
He takes over team bereft of any talent. His first year,
no talent, right, none. They wind up he had no quarterback,
He had no talent. They wind up getting the first

(24:48):
pick in the draft. All right, he takes Bradford, all right,
because that was the obvious pick. You're gonna take your quarterback.
You're gonna get Bradford. That year, he finishes having in
nine with a chance to make the playoffs. In the
last game of the season, they played like the Cardinals

(25:10):
or whatever it was. I forget, and they had a chance.
He had a chance to make the playoffs in the
last day. It was a bad division. He ends up losing.
But his first year with Bradford right. The next year,
he lost his entire secondary. He lost Bradford, and then
he lost Steven Jackson and he had nothing. Right, so

(25:32):
they lose, and then he's bounced and the guys go
everywhere he goes, they just get better. Look what he's
done with the Chiefs. They spend twice the amount on
offense they did on defense, and they win. This run

(25:52):
has been because of defense as much as Mahomes and Andy.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
The defense has come up huge time and time again.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Brilliant coach the second I'm a big believer in the
second time around guy. The second time around guy understands
what where he went wrong the first time, And now
they always go about it differently and go all right,
I know what to do now. It's weird the NFL

(26:22):
coaching in the NFL is did one profession where experience
doesn't matter. It's a negative in fact. So I think
his resume speaks for itself. His players love him, he's
got he's got the lineage with New York, right, I mean,
you know, nobody knows him better. I just think you know,

(26:44):
he goes and gets McDaniels as his OC. All right,
you gotta get your O C in order. That's not
leaving New England, is it not McDaniels. Mike McDaniel when
he gets fired. Okay, I'm just throwing that out, you
know whatever, But he gets it.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well you mentioned that, continue.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Right, he goes, he gets an OC. You gotta get
your o C because that's going to be you know,
paramount right which and he knows that he knows the market,
he knows that he knows the family right like he's there.
I I just think, I just think he'd be a
perfect choice for him, now, you know, I mean, everybody
knows how close I am with him, so you know

(27:25):
I get it. But I'm telling you I lived it
with him. The guy's a great coach man. The guy
understands it. I've been around his players love him. He
knows what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
So if you listen to Chris Long talk about him,
former Ram obviously very glowingly talked about SPACs, and I
think he talks about some of the same concerns and
issues that you voice right about his time in Saint
Louis and how he wasn't really set up for success
and whatnot. But he liked him as a coach and
thought he if he gets another chance, do you have
an opportunity to be really good? You mentioned something that

(27:58):
is the most important thing in this whole thing. If
if you hire a defensive coach, bag's defensive coach. Who
you're bringing is your offensive coordinator, because your entire job
is to is to get Jackson Dart to be the
best he can be, right, and that is that's the
number one thing you have to ask any defensive coordinator you.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Hire, who's your OC?

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Yeah, and so I don't have a bias against defensive
coordinators as head coaches. But the thing I concern with
most is what I just mentioned, right, is are you
hiring the right offense coordinator? But that the offensive coordinator?
If he is good, you have two years, that's it
because he's going to be gone.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Right he's going well depends.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I mean if if he's a guy like McDaniel, you
know he he gets bounced in Miami.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
H well, yes, but if he does, if he does
well for two years as the OC with Jackson Dart,
he's going to be a head coach again somewhere right.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
You have to imagine maybe, I.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Mean, you know, people put this I don't know, people
put this on him or they put this on to
a not being you know, then more about I think I.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Think that's fair. So I think that's fair.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
But I think that's what you do is you have
to you have to ask bags who's your offens coordinator?
How can he help Jackson Dart be the best he
can be. Look, Brian Dable, it just didn't work.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Man.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
His teams couldn't finish games. He did get Jackson Dart better,
but again, Jackson Dart was gonna hit too much. I mean,
darn has been tested for concussion four times so far
this season.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
It's the most ridiculous thing in the world.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
How in the world do you put your quarterback in
peril in his season which you're.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I mean, you finally found a franchise quarterback and you're
going to run that many options read options?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Are you nuts? Well?

Speaker 4 (29:37):
I think you just you're trying to win games best
you can.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Okay, you can't win games at the best you're going.
You already realize you put your quarterback out there to
get to get beat up.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I understand.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
I'm not I'm defending him. I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
It just it senses me that he would do that.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well, I mean, it's not a bad offense to run,
but when your quarterback starts getting hit too much, you
have to stop doing it.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
And that's here's why I think it's a bad offense
to run. You just do stop doing it because you.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Kill your quarter You just kill your quarterback in this league,
you kill and and and here's the deal. I don't
I'm not saying you don't do it. If you have
a chance to win in certain situations.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's a great it's a great fourth down, third and shot.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
But but not, but not in this type of season
where you know you're not going anywhere, Like what are
you trying to prove?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Like you get a job.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I get that, I get that, And ultimately it's ownership's
fault for putting him in that position, Like you either
got to say dude, like you got to tell him, like, dude,
I need you to preserve our quarterback. Right if that
means we don't win as many games, I understand, I'm
going to grade on a curve.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I mean I can't and I can't have you acting
like you run it in a t Getrea.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
That was bad And that's why you know it's another
And there's an article out by Jordan Ronnan who covers
the team. You know it just like there's a lot
of stuff behind the scenes where it seems like he
wasn't a nice person and that plays a long role,
a big role in this. Like you know, if you're
a good person, you get a little bit longer release
and and people put up with it, especially obviously if
you're winning. But he's just not not winning. It seems

(31:27):
like he's a kind of mean to everybody. Not not
a great combination of those two things. I mean, you know,
I've been on bad teams, but we we we liked
our coach, which is important. I mean, not the be
all end all, but if you like your coach, you
can sort of put up with with some losing every
now and then. But when you start losing, you don't
like your coach. And in the team played like they
didn't like him at times. So but yes, another one

(31:51):
thing he has to do is get Dart, whoever the
coaches is. You have to get Dart to stay healthy,
design an offense around him, and get the most of me.
Like he's got the goods to be good. He's played
well recently, and that's that's your number one. So that's
Spags plus whoever the OC is great. If it's not
Spags but someone else, great, But that's your number one goal.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yes, but you also need you know, like I'm a
big believer, I like guys from that side of the ball. Listen,
unless McVeigh Shanahan like I I you know, those guys
are just spectacular.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
But a lot of these.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Young play caller dudes, those play caller bros, yeah, don't
turn out to be good at coaches. Look at you know,
Harball staying power, McDermott staying power, Sean Payton staying power.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
What side of the ball did they come from? Right?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Like, you know, I mean they didn't hurt Lamar right
that Sean Payton, I mean that that John Harball was
his coach?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I look, I the Chiefs find I hate to see
Spags go, but I would understand the need and I
think he deserves another opportunity. I think he certainly has
earned that that right. I mean, you can make the
argument he's the most successful assistant coach in NFL history.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Who's your guy? Who do I
think should have the job?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I mean, do you still have a do you still
have a proclivity for the Giants?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
No? I don't a roof of the Chiefs for the
most part. Now, I don't.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Uh. I think I think the answer is, again, whoever
you think can be the best for Dart, whether it's
one of these young but to your point, young office
cornieras aren't always the right the right choice here in
this instance, right like you can look at it what
Kubiak's doing with what Darnold. I think that's the case,

(33:47):
but he wasn't as good in New Orleans. It's finding
someone like that, I think to bring the most out
of Jackson Dart is what what this.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Has to be? Yeah, yeah, I got you all right?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Uh coming up, I I got a one coordinator I
want to throw at you for a job, and I'm
curious what you think of them. We'll dive deeper into
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(35:42):
throw one guy at you. I'm curious see what you think.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Now.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
They've had a down year, and I think people might
be sleeping on this guy. But the down year is
not because of him and the guy that I would
look at and if I was in college, I would
I'd be all over this guy. If I'm el is
you or he state Kingsbury. Yeah, So he's very interesting.

(36:12):
I really think he's done a really good job of
sort of rehabbing himself whatever. It's not the greatest way
to put it, but uh, you know, opportunity just to
be a little different in Washington. You know, the thing
about Kingsbury that I've always struggled with is that his
teams got much worse the back half of every season.
You look at Texas Tech, you look at at in Arizona,

(36:32):
and it just got worse. Now last season, that didn't
happen last season. His team actually got better in the
second year to the end of the first year, Jay
and Daniels. I was super great to see. We know,
the quarterback development that he's had over the years. You know,
clearly not his fault that Kyler Murray has never developed.
We saw it with another coach is not gonna happen

(36:53):
right to the level that they expected. So I'm not
sure that's his fault. Didn't happen in Arizona. So yeah, Look,
I think.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
That if the goal again to get Jackson Dart playing
the best of his ability, that'd be a great higher
We saw he's done with Daniels, with the creativity of
that of that Washington offense. I love the aggressiveness. That's
part dan Quinn obviously, but also part Kingsbury. And then
if you know, if if you bring in the right
you know, get staff hires are so important, you bring
in the right DC man, It's it's a pretty good mix,

(37:19):
I would. I think Kingsbury is a possibility for a
lot of jobs this year, including college football, and I'm
curious to see war hands up. I don't think he's
back with Washington next year. I think he's a head
coach somewhere in football.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, I just think there's too many openings.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
There's too many jobs available for a guy like him
not to land one. I mean, there's some good college jobs.
If I follered him, I mean there might be more.
There might be more though, even open up between now
and the end of the season too. Yeah, you know what,
And I haven't looked. I haven't really had this. We
haven't done this. Uh NFL.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Who's going to be out?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Well, my McDaniel's, who's not out already. McDaniel's is going
to be out. Stefans is going to be out. By
the way, he's a good coach. It's a shame. I mean, look,
if we're talking about I would hire Stefans get a
heartbeart with the Giants. That would be like, if I
could get him, I would do it. But I think
he'll be the favorite of everyone. So what Tennessee's done already, right,

(38:24):
Tennessee's out. I wonder if Zach Taylor Cincinnati might be
on the way out. I think that's why they're trying
to bring Burrow back to just show that that you know,
he gets to, you know, do it even though we
know Burrow can play and and the problem is not Burrow.
It's been the defense for years now. So I mean,

(38:47):
I think Aaron Glenn's probably safe, even though I think
that he's He's not his fault of God, you think
used to.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Play justin fields, though that is his fault. I think
at the end, right to play you play fields, have
to play fields. Field fields is surrendous.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Yeah, it's not good. Yeah, normally about six seven coaches
or fires.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I'm curious work, but real quick, happened, real quick? What
do you do? Like? Who? Who do you play to?
Rod Taylor is better than fields.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I would play to ye Tailler too, but you know,
I can't blame he's got nobody.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
They also but I know it's not his fault, but
also just like can't pick fields to be the guy.
I am curious. That's interesting. Team are they gonna let
Aaron Glenn basically draft of the next quarterback? I'm very
curious about that situation. But yeah, there's always seven jobs open,

(39:45):
so there's always a surprise. I know, like, what if
the Steelers fall for Cliffis Tomlin? Is that is that
it for Tomlin and Pittsburgh?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I don't know. Wow, could you imagine that? Like I
can't even close my eyes and imagine. No time? Whin
the bitch? All right, big ol.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
We're coming up next around college football Fellas.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Sports Radio Morning, Good Morning, Mooning Morning.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
That's us, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Guar, I got a fellas
hanging out. We got three football Saturdays left in college today,
next Saturday, and then it's the rivalry weekend over Thanksgiving,
and then it's on the playoff Army Navy and and
conference championships and then the bowl games and playoffs. So

(40:36):
that's kind of where we stand right now.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Man. I always see.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I start to get a little like Nancy this time
of the year, like protecting the football turf.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Jeff, Yeah, it's uh, it feels that it finish line
is there, but because of the playoff, man, this thing
goes talk mid January.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Now that's kind of nice. Yeah, yeah, I agree, yep, yep, yep. Obvious.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
It was not that way for forever. I mean that,
you know, Thanksgiving was like that. It used to be
the end right now, But now the playoff, it feels
like it goes forever, which is nice.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah, buddy, yeah, keep it going. That's why how I
look at it. Uh, we give it to give a
yo to our men. Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Josh listening in Vegas. He was the traveling creupier I
dubbed so. Josh used to call me my local show,
and he was. He was a creupier on a on
a cruise ship, right and and and he wound up
traveling the world as a croupier. Nice and so I

(41:48):
dubbed him the traveling croupier. And uh, I was thought like,
now that's he would be an interesting character for a movie.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
You know what about him?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, Like, do you think a traveling croupia could be
the basis of a good story.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I think it could be, right, you know, that's how
my mind works.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
I'm not I'm not a I'm not like a movie
person though, but I, uh, you're not if you made
a I mean, I'm looking forward to Devils product too,
but I don't really uh don't really uh have I have?
I told you my infinity for Devil was product and
why this happened.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I love that. I love that movie. It's a big
joke between I thought it was for your daughter.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
No no, no, no no, that's.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
What happened your wife or something.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
No, no, no for me.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
We played Washington State in two thousand and six, and
you have to fly to Lewis and Idaho when you
play Washington State, and then you stay in in in Moscow,
and then you drive the pullman to play them. Okay,
that's like a long journey. So we play Washington State.
We get to the airport in Lewiston and they are playing.

(42:56):
As it was leaving the tarmac to go to the
taxi to the runway, it drove off the tarmac into
the mud. Like we were stuck in the mud. We
were stuck for seven hours because they don't have the Yeah,
they don't have the tools necessary to pull the plane
out of the mud, so they had to drive a

(43:17):
towbar down from spoke Can whatever. We were there for
seven hours, so this is two thousand and six. So
we had a couple of movies on the plane and
one of them was The devil Ors Prada, So Devil
was it was It's might be a forty five minute
flight from Pullman too Eugene. So there wasn't like a
ton on the plane. There wasn't food on the plane,
a lot of food and then we have a meal
on the plane. We need nothing. And we had two movies,

(43:37):
The Breakup with Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
And uh yeah, like who weren't there weren't supposed to
be movies shown in the airplane. It was not gonna
be movies on the flight.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Were just there happened to be movies because they just
happened to have them, like they're that makes it right,
right right, It's you know, no one owns their charter planes,
so just it's just it's a it's a plane that
we rent for the weekend. So yeah, So one of
them was Devil Roy's Prada. So I was forced to
watch the movie on the airplane, and turns out it's fantastic.
So I always joke with everyone about how much I

(44:12):
like that movie. If it's on TV, I will watch it.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Oh really to click and stick for it?

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Yeah, yeah, good movie. So Devilro was part of two
the the the group chats are going wild yesterday when
the preview came out for that one.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
So really it's coming out? Is Stanley Tucci and that
one too?

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yeah. I think the whole crew it was a half
a half away.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Meryl Street and Emily Blunt, they're all They're all back
for a but the point of being I'm not a
big movie I've seen.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
You'll forgive me if I don't see that one right
in the theater.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
In the last five years, what have I seen? I
saw Top Good, Maverick by my I just went like
on a Wednesday at like at like eleven am.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
It was me and like everyone with white hair was there. Okay,
I saw I saw The cut Gems by myself. Good movie.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, it's my main man. And then I think I've
seen just kids movies since then. I saw like Minecraft
with my kids. I went to see something else thro popcorn. No,
I told them, absolutely not. We uh.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I saw theater didn't go nuts, they didn't go do
it in the theater.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
No, no, no, this was like a couple of weeks
after I premiered. It wasn't like I saw Wicked. That
was good to see Wicked, but like Minecraft movies are
perfect for me, cause I okay, the thing about kids
movies is they have a bunch of adult stuff in them,
of course, but like it was the middle of a Saturday.
I just took it like a fifteen minute nap.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
It was great. Oh so good.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Like I just don't see a lot of movies in
the theater. So yeah, we're a movie guy. Like I
get it, you know. I mean, you know, well especially
when you have kids. I mean I don't get a
chance to go to the theater like I used to.
I mean, you know, I mean you got kids. You
you know, we did all the kid movies and now
my boys are twelve and fifteen, so you know, now

(46:07):
you get into the you know, now we do.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
We're Jurassic you know, Park and all that.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Oh my kids are My kids are watching Jaws right now.
They're like, well they're they're like all in on every.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, it's cool, like that's what it is. But so
but you don't watch you and your wife don't watch
a movie or TV. You don't on the TV show
you guys watch. We watched well, so the movie theater.
She doesn't like us too cold whatever that means. It's
just like, and we have a date night, which is
rare because you know, you know the grow we got
two kids and we're busy, and like it's even like
tonight would be good date night.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Because it's organizaon on, but I don't want to go.
You wanna go to dinner. We want to go over
a good dinner, Like we're not really going to the
movie theater and we have a date night, right. I
think about watching shows. I don't know if your wife
is just stay away, but it's difficult to watch shows
in our house, the two of us, because we watch
them in like seventeen minute increments because you falls asleep immediately.
So like I we we do watch shows. It just

(47:00):
takes weeks and weeks and weeks. And what I do
and don't tell her this is I kind of skip
ahead and that just what we watch it back with
her later.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
And I do that too. Yeah, we all do that, right,
we have to because she's small because.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
If I'm up and she falls asleep, well I'm gonna
keep watching, right, But but but I don't mind watching
things over and like either. I kind of like it
because I pick up stuff I haven't seen and that.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Sort of thing. So have you watched Task? You should
watch Task? What's Task? It's it's very good HBO.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Again, the problem is like if we start stuff, it's
just never it's just never gets finished together. He rather
just watched I just watched Lioness, which is good. I
like lions all right, all right, well.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I like Zoe. Uh anyway, lots to get to. All right,
we digress, but let's dive into it. A big Collin
slate today for a week twelve.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
What's that? A lot of sec action today? Baby? You
know we're gonna find out about some teams today.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
You know, like I'm curious because you know, when we
look at Alabama, what do you like? Listen, Oklahoma, Alabama's
gonna be interesting in that it's a shame of tears
hurt right with the with the hand because you just
don't get I mean, they just they just struggle so
much on offense. But I can't believe that Alabama doesn't

(48:28):
have a run game. Yeah, I mean Alabama's always had
a run game.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Yeah, it's an interesting game Alabama. It's interesting because if
you go back to kill the border head coach his
time at Washington in twenty twenty three, when they were,
you know, a playoff team, they won a lot of
games where they just won every high leverage moment, and

(48:57):
his Alabama team feels like the same thing this year.
We're like, every moment they have to win, they they
seem to win. And how long can that last? Right now,
I think it lasts today because I think they're much
better at Oklahoma because your point, like Oklahoma can't sustain
an offense regularly, and I think that it's really hard
to win road games if you can't have a staindable offense,

(49:19):
if you can't really run the ball outside your quarterback
runs with your huge problem of THEIRS, if you can't
create explosive plays, which is a huge problem of THEIRS.
But Alabama is just very one dimensional offensively. Can you
keep making all the high leverage plays at all times?
I think I think they can against Oklahoma. I'm not,
you know, as I don't have that same I think

(49:42):
trusting them against a better team, but I don't all
the Oklahoma with the way they their offense right now,
it feels all that intimidating in this in this spot.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I guess I'm just surprised that no one has stepped up,
like you know, Miller, like, I'm just surprised.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
The football. Yeah, the offensive line is not but it's good.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
This year's no I see that, but you know that's
you know, Alabama, dude crazy.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I know.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
And Taylor to Boar's offensive line in Washington was really
really good and they're super talented. Their center is good,
they left tackles good. So but again, I'm not sure
this is the real spot where Oklahoma was able to
win this game.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
We'll find out.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
I don't think that they have enough to get this done.
But I Bama feels a good team to me. That
is sort of ripe to just not play as well
in the playoffs as expected because they they get everything
sort of goes their way. And that's that's the kind
of recipe for to be upset in the In the post,
he's like, you need a little adversity, you need like
something to go bad for you during the season. In

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my in my in my, in my opinion, they just
don't really have that.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Ever, Yeah, you know, I got sh and then the
other big game in the s CEC it's a fascinating one.
So if I think Alabama Oklahoma is probably a lower
scoring game, I'm trying to figure out what Georgia Texas, yeah,
is going to be like, right, Like, I'm trying to

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figure out what's the personality of that game and can
Sark juice up that offense because look, that Georgia defense
isn't what it used to be.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
So this is a really fun game. A couple of
things here. Texas wins this game, I think they're a
playoff team. It doesn't matter what happens in the last
game of the year against A and M. I think
they're a playoff team at nine and three with the
win over Georgia, because here's what happens. They beat Georgia
today and they skyrocket up in the rakings, right, and

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a loss to an undefeated A and M team final
week of the season is not gonna drop them that much.
We saw Boise State just lose last weekend in a
game that wasn't even close, and they dropped four spots
in the polls, right, So if they if Texas WANs today.
Just be prepared, guys, you're gonna have a three loss
team in the postseason. Nine to three Texas. Here's what

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here's what's What's the fascinateing part about this game to
me is is one really one matchup. It's Georgia defensively
against Texas offensively. Because Georgia's defensive season is not what
they've been in the past. They don't get any pressure,
they don't stop people quite the same. They're not good
on third down, they're not going in the red zone,

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they don't stop the rum. Mean, they're just not very
good now that they've come up with big plays in
big moments. And they played much better in the fourth
quarter of games against Florida and it gains old miss
and and and whatnot, like they played much better to
the end of games. But it really has not been
pretty for a large portion of these games. So that
being said, though, Texas not good on offense like all,

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like all the things that Georgia is bad at defensively,
Texas is bad at offensively, yep.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
So what what.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Gives out what wins in this game, and that to
me is the is what's so fascinating to me is
what wins out this game. I will tell you that
we'll talk the brain in a little bit. A lot
of people on Georgia this weekend. Look, I think if
you're a wager on the game, you take the Texas
plus to points, you take the over potentially because something
has to give here with with the offenses in this game.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
I like the over. I do. I think.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I think there's gonna be points in the game. I
just I'm with you. I just feel it. And look,
I don't know what you're going to do with Arch right,
like you know, everybody has the same Kinn drip. Now
Sark is a really good offensive line, and I just

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you got to figure out a way I think he will.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
I just have this, I have this feeling that it's
going to be an up and down game.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
I think it's I think it's gonna be a great game.
And Georgia again like sort of like we talked about,
like living on the edge of Alabama, Like Georgia keeps
winning these close games. I mean at some point they're
going to drop one. But here, you know, here's why
I go back to like just like visually like it
just thinking in my head it's Arch manning gonna go

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into Georgia.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
And win this game. I know, I know you have to.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
You have to buy that in your head before you
you think you know, before you make that pick. And
they're playing better offensively, absolutely, but they also just like
you had an agg at Kentucky, they had to like
they just had these moments this year where even recently,
while they're playing better, they're.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Still not winning all those games. I mean, there's still
they're winning them close.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Like I it's a long way away to say, I
think I'm back to Georgia Texas to cover.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
I think I would back Georgia to win. Yeah, yeah,
I would. I would agree with that.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yeah. I just look at him and I did. Yeah,
I just look at him and go.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
I can't see them winning the game, but I could
see a late touchdown.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I could see.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I could see them in it like I could see them,
you know, I could see them scoring.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
I'll give you one other factor I think it's important
this game too, is George's tackling on defense. Because Texas
loves throwing the ball short when their guys run. They
got good athletes. So seeing just like you know, Georgia
tackles in space. It's gonna be hugely important for the
success of this game, or lack thereof them.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Well, we saw that against Tennessee right like, and you
know where they can give to stop.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Until the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Same with Oldness, remember old miss at thirty five points
like and then just like they didn't shut down.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
So that's and it was all tackling, and it was all
attacking the edge, all attacking the perimeter against them, and
they struggled.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
So it's the thing about like I just don't like,
I don't know if.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
I don't I don't know if I like buy Georgia
defensively again, like they can you play poorly for the
amount of time that they are they have and then

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obviously they played much better at certain points and then
all of a sudden, just like against Texas, decide, Okay,
we played bad on defense for three quarters, we're gonna
play better in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
It feels like that's just really hard to do time
after time.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, So I'm very curiously
how this one goes.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Yeah, should be going, man, really, you should be going
looking forward to it. All right, let's take a quick too,
and then we'll come back. And then I want to
talk about a couple other games. And you know, I've
been on this Notre Dame kick and I'm curious. See
there's a lot of pit love out there, shock the world.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Pit love.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I don't say it, I don't say it a little bit.
I'm curious to see what you think. We'll dive into that.
We'll take a look at the latest rankings, and then
NFL is a great weekend. We got epic showdown games
this weekend in the NFL, so we'll tie it all

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the big good weekend of games.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
We're the Fellas and Jeff right here, right here on
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Speaker 1 (57:39):
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Speaker 2 (57:51):
Welcome back, Fellas and Jeff. All right, let's get to it.
Let's uh. We talked about the two big games of
the day, but let's gotta go through it because number
two Indiana, which is just juggernaut, wins last week when
maybe the best catch you'll ever see in college football's

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broke Us Johnson.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
God, yeah, it was awesome. There really was I'm a
big Gus fan. It was it was.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
It was incredible and also broke ped State. Oh god,
actually imagine that was a super Bowl. Actually, think they
played well today at Michigan State. You do why, Well,
they haven't quit all year.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Right, they lost, they lost, Northwestern, lost their quarterback, came
back and battled their butts off against Iowa. Right, that
was a one point loss for them. They came back
the next week and played Ohio State super tough, and
the Ohio State obviously just overcome them with talent in
the second half of that game. And then you think
to themselves, Okay, well, like what There're season's over now,
and they keep losing games and they battle, they battle

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as hard as possible in Indiana, like they've shown no
quit whatsoever. So I don't think today I gets to
the Michigan State team. I think't gonn look at Michigan State.
I think we can get a win.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Today, right, I don't know, dude, that that was a
tough one.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I that's a tough one to lose.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Yeah, I don't disagree, but I think that we have
yet to see them laying egg and Michigan State is
so bad. Well, even if even if they just don't
even like give a full effort, Like if they come
out in the first drive of the game and just
score a touchdown that you know, all the talk is,
you know it doesn't matter, you know, no, I feel you.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Uh, how about this?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Indiana just has when they got after today they Purdue
and that's it.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Yeah, tarn twelve and zero.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, yeah, A and M another nasty squad laying seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
And a half against South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yeah, it's a big number. I'll come down a little
bit of it. It was like nineteen nineteen and a half yesterday.
Caroline just can't do nothing offensively. I don't imagine this
is there's not a look at spot for A and M.
They don't have Texas Net until a couple more weeks
with thanksgiven. So I really like, I like, I think
I think A M probably covers this game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Overall.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
You gotta love am Owens and just when you watching
them play that defense, that's a very good team.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
And then the other big game at noon, Irish traveled
the pit and Notre Dame is a twelve and a
half point favorite. But I'm hearing all kinds of pit love.
Oh it's a tough spot for Notre Dame and I'm
gonna be able to run. I say, hogwash, I'll take

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the Irish. And then, but what do you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Think the problem is is that Pitt Pitt's defense isn't
great and their offense is bad on third down? I
don't they can't run the football either. I like, I
think I have them over thirty three and a half points.
I think they score a bunch of points today. That
to me is the best way to play this game.
It's just the Irish score a bunch of points and
maybe Pitt keeps up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
But I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Yeah, I feel the same way. I just think it's
Notre Dame offense. Now Pitt's defense. Pitt can stop the run,
they can stop the run. They're good against the run.
But Davin seen and run Davin team.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
But also Ice.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Yeah, but Notre Dame's offense is So when you run
the football, there's basically two three ways to look at it. Right,
there's it's offensive line oriented right where the offensive line
is the big reason why it can be the running
back is the big reason why. Or it can be both, right,
Like my ducks are both they're good backs and good
blocking the Irish though it's a lot, it's a lot

(01:02:02):
of it's a lot of running back, and that does
concern me on the road. You know, if you can
just get Love on the ground, tackle him, corral him,
keep him explosive runs, it's not like the Irish or
an offensive line that always punches a hole in an
opposing defense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I listen, I like car he's good, and I think
they'll be able to I can, I could see. I
can think they throw it. I'm bullshowing them mine. I
just think they're good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I think they have a chance. I think they're a
team with a real chance to make a run.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Uh maybe I don't thro defense is good enough, but yeah,
I mean I think that that what the experience that
got last year is super helpful.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
I'm a big streaming fan, and you know, fantastic. Do
you think I've seen his name linked with the Giants
and coaching job. I think that would be foolish at
him to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah again, to me, get get a bump and stay,
get it paid me At.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
This point, I don't think the money matters to him,
but yeah, I mean, out of principle, you have to
do your agent is gonna call and be like, hey,
hey man, Like no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
That's the point, Like, you know, you don't need to
go anywhere. You're gonna go to the Giants. See the
problem is, And I'll ask you what's a better job,
nobody or the Giants, because.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
You know, I think pro jobs, I think pro jobs
are are uh easier probably from February to August. I
think college jobs are very tough because well the recruiting
part of it. But yeah, and then you just from

(01:03:49):
September to January at college job, no name was gonna play.
How many games were they just better than the opponent?
You know, that's you know in the NFL is not
that case. But the recruiting stuff, to me is so
so hard college football to appease, you know, these young
players and make sure they're loved, to make sure that
they don't want to transfer, and make sure that everything's saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Care of it at all times.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
You're always on the phone with these guys and texting
them making them feel good and recruiting and that part
of it is much different obviously in the NFL, where
that just doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, it's funny talking about spags earlier. I had mentioned
to him. I go, dude, you know it's so interesting
because college is you know, a lot like the NFL.
Now you know where you have a GM and then
when the portals like free agency and now you go

(01:04:36):
to a team, you got you know, you get a guy,
you get a good collective, you can build a good,
good program, good team. I said, you should think about it.
He's like, dude, no, he goes, I'm staying in this league.
I can't because of what you just said. That's a grind.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
It's it's it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Yeah, like a hot name that seems to be brought
up as Joe Brady, right, the Bill's coordinator, but OC,
and it's like, does he does he want to leave
an OC job and potentially the NFL head coach one
day to go to college.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I just I don't. I didn't answer, I mean answers
no at the moment. It might change over time, but
it's it's a tough sell to leave an NFL OC
job to go be a college head coach somewhere, especially
the school of Penn State, where the pressures it's just
wrapped up so much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
It was not start to look at their look at
giants coaches since Coughlin.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
All right, but not been great.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
You have Ben mcindo, yep, Pat Shermer, Joe Judge, and
then Dable.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
I think about Dable, it's like I feel like he
I feel like Dabel can coach offense. But I obviously
there seems to be some sort of personality where he's
almost feels like one of those Belichick guys, like he's

(01:06:11):
just sort of mean to be mean sounds like sometimes
and you're you know, I know you mentioned that you
like coaches getting second opportunities. I think Dabole will go
somewhere beat OC for three or four years, so kick button,
they'll be head coach again. I wonder what he had
learned during that time. But does feel like if you
he said to him, hey, man, like one thing you

(01:06:31):
would change it would be to to not you know,
kind of be a uh you know, you know, like
a somebode who to Belichick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Yeah no, no, I And like I feel you on that,
and maybe you know that's that's possible because there were
times where I thought he was he was good, right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
It's the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
I think he can I think offensively, the Giants are fine,
Like I obviously the personnel isn't great and injuries have
crushed him this year, but Art certainly got better.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yeah this year, listen, he did a good job at Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
So you know, yeah, Texas Tech. My U U c
F big favorite for Texas Tech.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Yeah, I'm I'm not worried about Texas Tech in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Miami fift a tense state.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
And you say it's defense is atrocious, But I think
this game could be close. I know that uh Louisville
losing yesterday, so it keeps Miami alive for a little bit,
which I think would hopefully gives him some renewed spirit
in this game. I don't trust Miami though. November is
not mark Cus the ball's month.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
No, Yeah, and then you got I would usc usc
lane six and a half. I like I win the game.
I know boy Southside Chuck in Kentucky, he likes him too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Listening right now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
I took Iowa plus seven. Here's my here's my thing
about this game. That concerns me about Iowa is the US.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
He's at home.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
They put much better at home, right If we want
to catch us, you want to catch him on the road.
As we've seen so far this season, true, is that
uh Iowa just there there us. He tends to beat
these Big ten teams that are not as fast as them,

(01:08:36):
and Iowa wall defensively really good. They I think USC
can just run by them. Now they're gonna have to
play you know, they'll play their own coverage well Iowa,
they won't make mistakes, which is what we saw. I
saw first hand last week with with my Ducks. Like
there's a lot of there's a lot to like about Iowa.
But USC has tended to play very well at home
against these types of teams. And then I would just

(01:09:00):
can't throw the ball, Like it's hard to back a
road team you can't throw the ball. I know people
will look at well they lost Oregon and they're going
to be dead, but look at them over the years.
Last year they lost four games, they won the next
game in all four. This year they lost lost, you know,
three games now, but the first two next game they
came back. I played really well in the next game.

(01:09:21):
So the way the program is, I don't think that
they are defined by you know, like a one loss
crushes them. Also worth noting it's going to rain in
La today. It is raining in La today, which is
a very which is a rarity. So the sort of
Iowa weather, is it cold there too?

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Just rating.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
I haven't looked the whole the whole four game. I
mean cold for LA could be sixty two degrees, so
it is it is. What is studio chime in there?

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
It's cold. It's seventy four today, yes, freezing seventy. No,
I'm cold when it's like sixty.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers for these But I
look the rain thows. I mean that that's a big
help for Iowa. I like, I will plus seven. I
got him at seven this week. But like if you
have one, what are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
That's cold? It's freezing, it's not and it's actually it
actually is a little bit chilly for you know, for
l a week for a week. Yeah, no, I know.
But he's talking. Jeff's talking about a football game, Buddy Weather.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Budd he go look at USC playing road games in
November where they have to go play like on the
road in the Pacific Northwest, and it don't go very well.
It's cold, it's cold for waiting second time out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
It's it's it's four thirty in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
It's going to go up to what I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I'm not seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Yeah, storm this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
I love, I love, I love it so much, but
it's gonna ran a little bit. The rain though definitely
helps Iowa though.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Okay, all right, you helps you acting like you know
we're going to ann Arbor.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
It's supposed to be the game today?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
What time for you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
It's twelve thirty, so it's supposed to be sixty one
degrees in rainy at twelve thirty. I got a wind too.
Oh boy, this is bad for USC. It's not good wind.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Little chili wind, chili six Iowa, Iowa weather, buddy. When
when it's when it's it was? And then was it not?
My parents said it was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
It was warm this week, right like late uper eighties
this week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
I think it was maybe last week. It was last
week it was cold man for l A. You be
you've been a parker in Los Angeles today? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
By the way, I love how much this is bothering you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
If you takes me, I'm just I'm just continuing to
say it. Just I know you are, I know you're.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
I mean, like you might have to go to the
beach with a hoodie on. Yeah, Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
All the transplants forget their their blood changes in their
bodies so they can't take the cold anymore when they
get I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
I'm gonna make I'm gonna make sure my parents have
enough heat to survive today. I'm gonna call them to
make sure they can make it through today, make sure
their heat is working.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
We have Bree, while we have Bree real quick break.
Uh so Bree was on a date with someone. Oh
that's oh, I love all right. I want to run
this by you. I want to run this by you, Jeff,
because I find it odd, all right? If you have
someone that that likes to bike or or run, that's great, okay,

(01:12:42):
but they don't listen to anything while.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
They do that. Like, if you bike the work every day,
would you wear headphones? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Don't you find it odd that you you like the
bike and run all day but you don't wear headphones
at all?

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Well, I think it's weird. Yeah, yes, yeah, I think
it's I think so too. Why is that?

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
What's the contact of this? You want to a date
with someone who's like works out with no headphones, like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
He runs like long marathons and he has.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Okay, Well, to be fair, nothing you can't those races.
You can have headphones. So right, if that's like the
way he trains, I give him a pass. If it's
for training, I give him a pass.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
She gave it. I I yeah, you're right about that.
That I not that I want to divorce my wife.
There's no chance of that happening because I'm terrified of her.
But I could not imagine dating in twenty twenty five.
It's just hard pass on that. It's a nightmare.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Everyone I hear who talks about it sounds like it's
the word I hope. What's the best of luck of course,
but it just sounds like not not not great scene.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Not not great. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Uh, that's why we're always keep an eye out, all right,
if you know somebody could we're gonna, Well, we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
I have like two friends there and they're married, and
it's all right. I was talking with some other day
about this, like I'm like like my like I matter
of like wedding season. I have no wedding friends anymore,
no more weddings, no, no second weddings. Yet it's it's
bar Mitzvah season coming up. Man, it's like Barbara Mitzvah.
It's like, that's the life I'm in right now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Oh yeah, well I can see that. That's the I
get that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
All right, Let's take a quick t o we'll come back.
We'll start an eye to the NFL. And it's a
big weekend, a lot of great showdown games. If I've
seen the NFC, we're the Fellas hanging out every Saturday
right here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios and Jeff Fellas hanging out.

(01:14:54):
So this is a showdown weekend in the NFC. Yeah,
it is, Baby, Ram Seattle is going to be incredible.
It's gonna be great.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
You say, and talk about your squad until we get
a full full thirty minutes to do that. Uh, Ram
Seattle is going to be absolutely fantastic. I cannot wait.
This is a This to me is a huge game
for Sam Darnald because we saw and I think the
reason why people are sort of out on it, not
out in Seattle, but not in yet is Sam Donald right?

(01:15:29):
Because we saw last season how good it was when
it was good, and then when it was time for
go time when it was time to evaluate, like, Okay,
here's what we are, where's we are? Just turn into
a pumpkin immediately, right, Yeah, and so this is a
game where you know it is the pumpkin Donald coming out, right,
And I think all of us are waiting to see that. Uh,

(01:15:50):
and I am most excited to watch that. And the
Rams are are right now first second best team in
the NFC at the moment. Right, they're playing really they're
playing really really good. I love what they're doing. Well, yeah,
I thought so. The thing about thirteen thirteen them in

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Seattle by the way, and doing a ton of thirteen
you just well because of they really just have two
wide receivers, right, Pukunukua and DeVante Adams, and those guys
have been a little beat up, Like Adams didn't finish
last game. He's healthy, he's gonna play today. But when
and then you have to figure out ways to pass
the football. Thirteen personnel is great. It's one running back,
three tight ends, one wide receiver. Teams defensively do not

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I know how to match up to thirteen because you
would think that's a running formation or running personnel group.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
So you put in your big guys and then they
pass the football. You have a bad matchup. If they
go little guys, then they just they can run. They'll
due you to death. So it's really tough. Duo is
an inside gap run scheme. You just kind of mash
everyone together and run forward. That's a favorite of a
wing formation with thirteen personnel. So that makes this really

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fascinating match up. I'm really looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Yeah, you know, I can't wait for it. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
So this is why I'm a little dubious, right, Like,
this is why I need to see how they fare
against the Rams, because the schedule's legit. I mean they haven't.
I mean, you can only play with you play. But
here's who's This is Seattle season. So you start off,
you lose in San Francisco in the opener. You beat Pittsburgh,

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you beat New Orleans, you beat Arizona, you beat.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Tamp you lost to Tampa at home and a shootout,
right you lost.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
You beat Jacksonville, you beat the Texans, and you beat
Washington without Dan you know that whole that was a
destroyed piece. Daniels gets hurt, the whole nine. And then
you beat the Cardinals again. And while they put up
some big numbers, they just haven't played anybody. It's not
their fault, but they haven't really played anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
They have it, and so this will be this will
be a fun test, man, this will be it. I mean,
this is this is like, this is the thing about
Donald right, Like this is the test. Can you pass
the test this weekend? And they can pass the test
and lose by the way. Yeah, that's that's what I
want to see. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
I know what the rams are. Stafford's proved himself, but
they has proven himself. I love their the way they
play football. I love all of it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
It's the test for Seattle. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
You can't run the football, but this is it's you know,
if you're if you're if you're that one dimensional, can
can you win this game? I don't know, man, We'll
find out. We'll find out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I mean, that's my biggest is that their biggest issue. Yes,
I can't run the football. Yes, you know you look
at you look at those two backs and you want
to I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
I don't love one dimensional play, and I think that's
really tough to win that way. I'll tell you one
thing though, It's unbelievable. Smith and Jigban is open every play. Yeah,
and well, I think we'll see more from I think
we'll see more from Shaheit in this game too. Who
obviously was you know, they were such a big blow
up last week and they were sort of working through it.
He didn't he wasn't as productive as I think people

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want him to be.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
But I mean, you know, yeah, I mean, you need it.
Didn't need it. First game, I mean, the game was.
The game was thirty five nothing in early second quarter.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
They scored two times on defense in the first sixteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Right, So you're not you know, you don't you know,
you're not expecting that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
So I'm with you, all right, A big hour coming
up next The Brain will join on us the whole
thing Fellas on Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Fox Sports Radio Radio. Well, good morning, good morning fellas
from the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Fox Sports Radio studios and his aunt and Jeff on
a big football weekend. Love it counting down Thanksgiving? Well
this is it, man showdowns in the NFL. We're talking
about the NFC, talking about the Rams and Seahawks. Eagles
Lions is the other great matchup in the NFC. Eagles

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coming off the Monday and night ugly ten to seven
victory over the Packers, but they now have the tiebreaker.
Jeff against the Rams, against Tampa against the Packers. You
all your top teams except Detroit in Seattle so far.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Yeah, what do you make of the Eagles offense? Man?
That was discussion all week long. Yeah, it's not pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Every other week a J. Brown's complaining. I mean, I
get it, it's a wide receiver complaining. That has ever
happened before, But I mean it just it's not very
crisp right now. And this is sort of the time
of year with a new coordinator and you start you
start wanting to see that that Christmas is not there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
It's kind of worse. It's kind of worried somebody it is.
And there's a I mean that's why a J. Went off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
I mean, he bared his soul this week and he's like, listen,
he goes, we're not he goes, the idea is to win, right,
We're not winning if we're putting up ten points, like
we're not doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Like he's got to get more, dude. He got three
targets and one was yeah White opened that crosser. That
a big game. Uh I uh you know what? Yeah,
what was Sirianna doing on fourth down? Is he okay?
Was he trying to like?

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Was that like a like, well, dude, you're so right.
It was the most ridiculous thing in the world. You
have to punt in that situation. You gotta put There's
there's no I'm going to be a crush, there's none
of that. You've got to punt the situation. And just
to remind people, there's at the end of the game,

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the Eagles of the ball at green Bay's thirty five
yard line, throw up ten to seven. Green Bay's got
no timeouts, there's going to be about thirty there's thirty
two seconds when you start to play. You got a
punt it. Every yard means something when you don't have timeouts.

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Green Bay gets the ball because they go for it
and throw it complete. Green Bay gets the ball with
twenty seven seconds left at their own thirty five Dude,
if they complete the first round the first down pass,
they're going to tie the game.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
It was very dumb, but sereo ony.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
Yes, I agree, and I don't know why he did that.
It does any sense, Uh, there's no analytic point to
doing that. You had a Packers team that that could
not move the ball on offense, so make him go
to the length and field with no timeouts.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Right, it was. It was ludicrous.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
So I'm curious, you know, Philly this weekend to see
what they do offensively against Detroit. And you know they're
solving their problems. You know, the offensive line just hasn't
been as good this year. I got part of that's injury, right,
the Jergon's been out, Lane's been beat up a bunch.
I thought that that Fred came in and fought admirably
for Lane, but Michael Parsons was a problem. He gets everyone,

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of course, but I thought that really dictate a lot
of their game plan on third day and he came
back to he came back, he got it out. Man
came back that from the drive. He's I'm surprised he
didn't retire this last last offseason. He's at the point
he just gets hurt every He's just so he's just
played a lot of football.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
I hope he can stay healthy this season. He's gonna
get hurt a bunch. Yeah, and actually, you know twenty
he actually missed a full game.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
No, No, he keeps battling, man. I mean he played
through that groin. Was it last year with the groin injury? Yeah,
Buel through it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
So he's a nice, tough SB gonna be a Hall
of Famer. You know, been the car and.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
Sold that offensive line now for for years alongside Kelsey,
and you know last year was obviously you know, also
for Lane has sort of being the number one leader
of that offensive line. But it's yeah, he's just getting
beat up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
I hate to see it. So you brought up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Their offense, but you're so right. I mean, it's it's
the talk of the town. The Eagles are seventy two,
but they have basically the NFC East already clinched and
they have they have a road. They're the favorite probably
right now to get the number one overall seed. But

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their pass game has been not good and very inconsistent,
and you know, when you look at it, it's kind
of been that way. It was like that last year too.
It was masked by Saquon's historic years.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, you see. Let me ask
you a question.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Yeah, Now, obviously to new OC and you know he's
not the most popular guy in Philadelphia right now, Kevin Pittulo,
But what are you seeing from the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
I just you know, I just don't see a lot
of easy completions built into the offense for him early
in games. I feel like that's a good way to
get a quarterback going. It's just not what they do now. Again,
I mean, look the plan referred back to, like you
have a J. Brown wide open on a on a
shallow cross, I mean you gotta hit up. He's right
over your face, right like, right over the middle of field.

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And I just don't think he's seen them feel great
right now. I don't think there's a lot of trust
in the passing game from what I see when I
watch Hurts play. Then again, I mean there was a
big third down that game and he just ripped the
ball smith for first time he's made.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
He can still make the throws. I just don't think
it's a very confident passing game.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
That's what I see. It's not very confident passing game
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yeah, there's a thought process. One of the things that
he doesn't do is he doesn't let it go right Like, listen,
he's never going to be that guy right he does
he does, He's never going to be you know, Stafford Herbert.
The way he throws the ball, right, Like that's just
not who he is, but what they have they have

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found this weird thing of success where it's it's not
turning the ball over, and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
So much is on him, like, don't turn the ball over,
don't turn the ball over. Over the first four.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Games last year he had a bunch of interceptions. They
turned the team, they turned in the offense into a down,
downhill run offense, and it was limited throwing. I mean
they would go down the field and a lot of
the plays were you know, aj outside the numbers where
either he's want to it was a big play or

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he would it would be incomplete, like not throwing a pick.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
And they've been on him for not putting the ball
in peril.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
I think that sometimes hurts him because like you're taking
away to freedom to throw it, Like let him just
feel free to throw the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
So I.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
People having aversion obviously to you know, to to interceptions
right like they're they're bad, and I'd argue they're not
all bad.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
I agree with you cost to doing business.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
You want a quarterback that takes chances and you know,
you see all the time we I love using the
term an arm punt, but like third and twelve. The
balls are twenty at the minus twenty seven, Like why
like let it rip, let it rip.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Throw the ball fifty yards down for you throw a pick,
so what it's a punt like like let it rip,
let it rip. And I think sometimes he's not doing
that because to me, interceptions are are not all bad things. Dude,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
I think it's caused still business Like I'm I don't
want you to throw four of them, but you know
you're trying to make a play.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
I mean, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Like it's a point where he's not letting it go
or he's very late even on the touchdown pass to Smith.
That throw he was laid on that throw. And I
think it's because they they're in his head not to
turn the ball over.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
I understand the aversion to that. I don't think that's great.
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
One thing about the Eagles in training camp is that
you know that some guy like tweets out their stats
and it's like a no interceptions, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
I don't care. He should.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
He should be trying in the practice and the ball
down the field, Like if you told me that you
did a drill where it hurts through the ball ten
plus yards. You just forced him to do it, and
he threw two interceptions out of fifteen to be good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
He's trying. Good for him.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
I appreciate a little effort thought by the field. So
I think the RISKD version worked a lot lesser because
the running game was so good. I don't know if
it's gonna work this year, Like you have to be able.
If your running game is not gonna rush for two
point fifty in a playoff game, can can you throw
enough to win? I think teams are just saying, like,
we're not gonna let them throw the football, mean not

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let him run the football this season?

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
You know, can we can? We figure it out? And
you know when you drop back into his own that
really hurts them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Yeah, because I run the balls well the season right,
and he there is an issue of him finding windows
you see to throw the kakatara.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
He's got them missed him bad. And it was it
was his zone. It was sitting right in his zone. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
It's like, dude, you got to make that one. But
my argument is is I think you do them with disservice.
He never gets to a rhythm like sometimes like you said,
easy throws, get into a rhythm. So this way you
know you can get hot. He never gets a chance
to get hot.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
All right, I agreed, start starting to get out empty
like the football. I'm with you, agree. How do you
see this game now? Lions? No Laporta, no Tarrying Arnolds.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
I h I don't want to be prison of the
moment because the Lions look so good last weekend. But
it certainly feels that the Lions are playing better football
right now. But again, prison of the moment stuff is
not great to be presued in my opinion. I meant
they're they're nasties. All get out now, Dad, get all
in plays. That's interesting now too, Yes, yes it is.

(01:30:54):
That would interests me. Most about this game is the
matchup between the Eagles. D I love the Eagles defense.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
I mean get getting getting Phillips in here was a
big coup by Howie Roseman, a big big.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
He looked really good. He looked really good and dude
fits well with him. There's something to do. There's something
to when you're playing on a winning team. You just
picked your game up. Man like Phillips. He go and
say you mention this too. It's not something but like
you go from playing on the Dolphin and he's trying
hard to win. All things are true to like man,

(01:31:31):
I can help us with a super Bowl. Now you
play a little better. You do play a little better.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
So you do, and I figure you're right on. He
fits perfect. You look at that defense. Now, they got
Nakobe Dean back. They're linebackers between Bawn that play well.
Dean Campbell tackle really well. They're really good, and they're
really good middle of the field because you got Cooper

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Degene in the middle of the field.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
They're they're strong. Man Carter, Carter's playing really well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
I think that I'm fascinated to see that match up
between the Lions offense and the Eagles defense.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
I think that's a that's an Iron v Iron matchup.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Yeah, the way I mean, the way Carter's playing inside,
it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
I can't wait now, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Because the Packers, let's face it, you come winning the game,
you get no craft, so you lose your best weapon.
You got no Matthew Golden Dobbs gets hurt at the
beginning of the game, so you know they're finishing the
game with bo Melton.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
I know, yeah he caught He even caught a pass
in that game too, if you remember. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Yeah, so that's a good matchup, a little round robin
action where you got you know, the ram Seattle Eagles,
Lions to good and even even like Bears.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
Like it's it's a really big, big day in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Yeah, yeah, Niners, Cardinals, not that the Cardals or anything,
but they get the Niners. Packers are in the Giants,
I mean the Packers. I mean they got to win, right,
you got to beat.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
That team, James, Yeah, I like I like the Giants
plus seven Yeah, yeah, the Giants have not been Their
record is two and eight. They've played a bunch of
close games. Yeah, and I need him to just cover
the seven plus the last seven games for the Packers.
The time I had, I've talked all about this lock

(01:33:35):
this week. Right, it's lost the Browns, it's a double
digit favorite. It's tied the Cowboys in Dallas. Right, it's
it's uh, beat the Bengals by nine, but don't cover,
beat Arizona by four, don't cover, beat the beat the
beat the heck out of the Steelers lose. The Panthers lose,
the Eagles. You covered one of your last seven games,
so why are they seven point favorites? Like one about

(01:33:56):
this makes the seven point favorites.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair. It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Uh. And then in the the interconference battle, which is interesting,
Buffalo and Tampa suddenly the Bills at six to three.
You know, when you when you lay the egg in Miami,
like and we talked about that, when you lay that egg.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Now, all of a sudden, you have to win this game.
You absolutely do.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Both, I mean both have to win this game. I
feel like, right, I mean, Tampa didn't win the division,
but the thing of the Buffalo is that they lose
this game. They're what two back of New England.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Now, yep, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
I would have thought that two back in New England?

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Right, Isn't that wild? It's wild?

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Yeah, I mean that it's incredible. So what do you
think is wrong with the Bills offense? I jeez, well,
so they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
They don't have wide receivers and okin K got hurt, right,
so like they just it's sort of like they like
the Chiefs from last year a couple last couple of
years when you have the amazing quarterback. But just don't
have the weapons around him. I mean, look, who's Shakir.
I guess Benjamin, Like who's the who's the go to
wide receiver? Coleman, Benjamie Coleman, Who's like, okay, third and eight,

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who's getting the ball? It was probably can Kate. He's
hurting now, he's not playing this weekend. So who's the
go to guy in a big moment in this game,
it matters. You have to have wide receivers. I know
people think quarterbacks can win without wide receivers. People always
point to like Tom Brady, but he always had a
Jewe Edelman, or he had Rob Garkowski.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Like none of those guys right now in Buffalo. And offensively,
they just don't have anyone to throw the ball to
you not good enough at that position. So I think
it really hurts the offense. Yeah, sure, and they can't
and they can't stop the run. That also doesn't help either.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
And Tampa Bay, I think Bucky was practicing this week.
I'm curious if Bucky Bucky plays because that would obviously
be a big He's out this week, Oh he is
that Okay, Yeah, they rolled him out. I still I
still like the run game with White and Tucker against
this Bills. Like I I'm surprised that the Chiefs go

(01:36:15):
back to that Chiefs Bills game just didn't run the football.
Everyone else run the football on them, and they just
didn't run the football.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm surprised that too. He really was.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Other one other good game, and I'm I'm fascinated by
the quarterback play between you know Flacco, I love Joe
and you got Flacco and and Rogers.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Do you you know this is uh, this is my
super Bowl the old guys.

Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
Isn't Flacco? And injury report this week? I think I
saw that, like he like didn't practice yesterday, so maybe
we don't get Flacco.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
I can't believe that. I can't believe he's not gonna play.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
I'm kind of I'm curious. Let me look this up.
And he didn't practice Wednesday or Friday, right Shu. I
would be shocked if he don't play, though, But he
did practice Thursday, so I think he'll play that if
you practice Thursday, is gonna put Thursday's the important install
day with you get you get uh third down on Thursdays.
That's an important install day. That's the most important install

(01:37:23):
day of if you're looking the way, I would be shocked.
I mean, I doesn't need to do Wednesday practice at
his base base runs and and and bass passes. Yeah,
he can skip Wednesday. I think he's done enough of
that in his career.

Speaker 5 (01:37:41):
What what do you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Let's talk about him real quick, because the numbers are
I popularly, I get it he's got Chasing Higgins right, but.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Man, oh man, the numbers are absurd every week.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
I think it's really impressed. I think a couple of
things are or when you play as long as he does,
I think he understands the goal right of every play,
and he understands what he can do and what his
team can do around him, and I think they're doing

(01:38:18):
a really really good job. He is of just like,
oh oh I got to open t Higgins or one
on one with with Chase. I'm getting the ball immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
So he knows.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Yeah, the wide receivers are good and they're helping him win,
but he just knows where to go with the ball
and what's required of him personally every play.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Yeah,
it makes perfect sense. I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
He makes every threat like he's he's got the golden arm.
I mean he got God bless him right, Like you know,
he's the type of guy that that kid just sling
it all over the field. He could he could sit
down and sling it right like, you know, he could
be in a wheelchair and sling it all over the field.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
It's it's uncanny his arm. I mean, you know you
throw from four to seventy. That's that's not a that's
not a joke, mag because like you said, he recognizes
every play.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
So between seeing everything, you know, not ever and Brady
talked about this too. Brady talked about being in his
thirties and how the game got easier for him because
he just knew everything correct.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
It really is cool. Now. Meanwhile, Rogers looks decrepit.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
Yeah, I mean, I I I'm I'm not surprised, but
yes he does.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
Yeah yeah, not great. All right, Well, we're gonna go
uh through it all with the Brain.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Coming up next as the the two pickers. We got
Jeff and Brain head to head.

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joining us like we always does every time every week
at this time the brain.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Good morning, Brain, Good.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
Morning my friends. Good to hear your voice.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Always good to hear your voice. And uh, this is
Jeff's favorite part of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
I always love talking to Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
So to start off, Jeff brought up an interesting point
about the Florida miss game. Why the big line shifty?

Speaker 5 (01:41:20):
Listen I again Florida, And I'm curious how Jeff feels
about this. Florida is a team to me, to me,
I just I have absolutely no interest in backing. I
get none, zero zilch. And yeah this this is people

(01:41:40):
are on the Florida side right now. Won't be me,
It will not be what I've seen from this team,
and it's been I mean, this line, this line guys
got its high as I believe seventeen sixteen. Okay it was,
I think, and I just I cannot under I just again,

(01:42:02):
I think, I think Florida is a team.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
To me.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
There's nothing I've seen from this team at all. When
I mean nothing, I mean nothing from the quarterback who
I thought was going to be good before the year,
to just maybe the coaching change maybe fixing things for me. Again,
I actually like the Mississippi side. I am. I don't
understand the Florida love. I really really don't even a

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little bit. I don't know what you think, but I
mean I I no interest in Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
I mean, I don't love it. I loveled miss Geez.
I don't get this. I don't get this number.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
I mean, I don't get it either.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
The only thing I can think of is that like
the word is out that Leyne is leaving. And but
again I don't I don't know why that would matter
for Gas. I understand it matters, and like Thanksgiving weekend
when like it seems way more official, But I don't really,
I just I don't get I don't I don't get it,
So it doesn't make sense to me another game that
I'm interested in your your take on. So I would

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back Texas over Georgia not to win the game, I
think to cover, am I am? I crazy for buy
a little bit of Texas here?

Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
You're not again, It's funny, Jeff, And again I think
this year in college football, man, it almost reminds me
of like, uh, in Nascar. I'm not a big Nascar guy,
but Nascar racing, they have the what's called restrictor plates,
the date twenty five hundred, all the cars close to
e t other throughout the race, like no one can
ever get a big lead. To me, that's college football
this year. It's restrictor plate racing. No team is that

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much better than any other team, and it's just all
a bunch together like the Dayton on five hundred, and
we'll see the wins on the man scramble at the end.
Georgia to me, I mean they're okay. Texas to me
is to the team I'm not backed all year, and
I've just been so unimpressed with But it's listen, I
get it. Jeff laying points with Georgia to me, not

(01:43:53):
interested in doing that. But at the same time, I
just if I'm coming around six. That's what it is, Jeff.
For me at the past, I really don't like either team.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
You know, it's funny because we were talking about that game.
I like the over in that game.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
I you know, for me personally, any of the overs.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
I mean, you don't trust the Texas offense.

Speaker 5 (01:44:15):
No, I just don't trust the Texas offense. I don't.
I do not. There's nothing about having watched Texas far
too many times this year that I care to admit.
I can't. I there's nothing about that team I find appealing.
I just I have no interest Anthony and back and
then before I don't trust them again if anything had

(01:44:36):
actually be on the under, but not a game for
me I'm personally playing, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
How about the uh my boy College Chills Alabama Crimson died.

Speaker 5 (01:44:46):
You know this game. I did bet at the Open.
I actually did take to Sorry, I did take Oklahoma
plus seven at the Open. I thought the line should
have been like five five and a half now is
mostly painted sixes. Again, I don't see again, I don't
see a ton of value here. I do like the

(01:45:07):
fact that we get Oklahoma off of bye week out. Look, Alabama,
give them a lot of credit. They played that horrible
first performance, horrible first performance against law State. Everyone wanted
to write them off, and they've been you know, they
just keep winning. But they've been maybe a little bit
fortunate and like their wins maybe a little bit. But again,

(01:45:30):
the quarterbacks consensational all year. Lean Oklahoma here, But again,
to me, getting seven was made it fedible right now.
Five and a half six. To me, it's just a lean.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
So I I kind of hate myself for this pick,
but I've done it this week Iowa, I got them
at seven. I'm not I'm not concerned about a hangover
with them, but like, what if USC scores like ten
points early. I I'm back a team that can't still

(01:46:00):
can't pass the ball. But I think that they've won
six times after a loss the last two years. I'm
not worried about the hangover.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
I'm worried about, like stylistically, playing against USC where they
were us. He plays so much better at home. They
tend to score a ton of points at home against
these type of defenses. But I but I think Iowa
can just smash them in the face for sixteen minutes.
But is that enough to cover seven. I almost talked
myself out of this pick on a podcast this week,

(01:46:28):
but I already made it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
I'm sticking with it. What do you think about Iowa here? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
Well, Jeff, you kind of said I kind of hate
myself for this pick. That's fun. I think I was
another team. I really struggled about that. You've got a
good bill. It's seven, Jeff. It basically painted six and
a half. So you again, I always you have to
bet numbers, not team, So look, you actually do have
a little bit of value there. I thought this number
should have been seven, so I think it's the right number.

(01:46:54):
But ey, one of me is just a team, and again,
for some reason that's seem the USC really has just
been a better team under this regime at home significantly.
So I was just not a team I trust, especially
if they fall behind, as you said, Jeff, for me,
it's USC or pass it's and a half. I cannot
I can't back I way here on the road having

(01:47:16):
a score and trusting that offense. I can't do it.
I cannot do it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
All right, how do you see Pitt Notre Dame? Okay,
how do you see Notre Dame?

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
Yeah, interesting thing because I actually I do lean over here, guys, well,
I do expect there Dame to win the game. I
actually think it is. It's pretty respectable on the offensive
side of the ball, and I actually think that they
can put up a game in the mid twenties at least.

(01:47:49):
I think this game isn't played in the sixties, not
the fifties. I actually like the over.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
A game that I played because I see a lot
of people on the other side that I think are
bad at This is people a b YU today, right like, oh,
by you lost last week, they have to have a
bounce back against TCU, but they don't have to.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
I like TCU. Plus, I don't even see what it
is today?

Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
Is it for still?

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
I think you said what's out right? But I'll take
the three points here.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting b Yu, Jeff, And I'm
sure you know. Look you I don't know if there's
ever a team that you that you played. Maybe I
was watched in the NFL, but like we just knew
a team was so like overrated, and you were just like,
I just hope we get a chance of this team
because then we can expose them. To me, that was
b Yu. I mean that was just And then I'm
hearing people talking about how they got unfair playoff rating

(01:48:44):
and I'm Michael, my god man, they shouldn't be in
the playoffs that Ye're right, that was the only fair
part they were exposed.

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
To me.

Speaker 5 (01:48:52):
Again, I have no interest in back in b YU.
I don't think they're a very good team at all.
I think TCU is the better team here, and well,
I was not surprised at the number per se. I
do agree. I think tc was a good chance for
the game with the points an the game by us
the team I always loved getting points because think they
win so many b S close games. But I think

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tc is actually gonna win out.

Speaker 3 (01:49:15):
Right, Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 5 (01:49:16):
It should have been.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
I love tc Yeah I should.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
Have beaten NYWA State last week. I agree he didn't,
but we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
Yeah, I agree, I love TCU anything in the because
I'm just curious. I kind of like Arizona a little bit.
Cincinnati laying points like that, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
I mean Cincinnati, the line sitting at like six Cincinnati to.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
Me, Yeah, I've seen six and a half, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:49:46):
Six six and a half. Aprizona the meet. Look again,
they had their kind of BYU moment as well, right
you know where they got obviously like torched by Utah.
But did you go have a bye week here? I
actually mean the other way here, Anthony, believe it or not,

(01:50:07):
I like SA say, well, my numbers made this the
line actually closer to seven seven a quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:15):
So like, for me, anything less than than than a touchdown,
I actually lean it. I didn't bet it, but I
leaned Cincinnati. I do think Cinnanti at home off the
bye week probably wins the game by at least a touchdown,
but we'll see again. Just to lean though. For me personally,
I have.

Speaker 4 (01:50:30):
A kind of off the radar game that I actually
like it. It's sort of it's sort of a zig
zag here, But I think Penn State goes into the
Michigan State and just whoops on them. I know last
week and feel like it was the end of their season,
but they have played hard for weeks now, even though
the season felt over right, they played hard Iowa, they
played Ohio State, they played hard last week. It just

(01:50:52):
didn't work out. They're gonna watch this film of Michigan
State and be like, guys, we can win this game,
like this is a game for us to what I did?
They go in there and dominated missig State is very
very bad? Am I crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
Fork you? I got a good number two at seven?
It's not like I think Pennsate when's this game and covers.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Well, there's from a from a just pure mass number standpoint,
I actually Penn State would be a play for me.
My numbers have been closer to ten. Okay, not I
think of nine nine actually, but from a numbers perspective,
this would be a play. But it comes down to
and I know you know, like this isn't anything that
feels this way too, but you got to matchups, but

(01:51:30):
also just looking at the human side to it, and
you say to yourself, okay, after what happened last week
in Indiana, they got so fired up for that game
and get someone as you again. I always love hearing
your perspective as a guy who was obviously play a
lot of years in the league, and you could answer
this at levels that ninety nine nine. Ton of us
can only dream of of what happens when these spots,

(01:51:51):
when you go all in on a game and then
the next game you'll lose a heartbreaking game like this.
How much of it, Jim, I love again. I'd love
to ask your opinion when how much of that just
comes into play? Where you just you just I don't
know if you just you have that hangover sort of speaking.
You just don't have the same pumption that you had
the week before to give everything you have. But theak
again from a numbers pans point to me it's Penn State.

(01:52:13):
But I just I can't get over last week's game,
and A there is going to be a little bit
of the if you can get over that, I actually
think Penn State's definitely a play.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
All right, I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Let's do this quick time out and then rapid fire
through the NFL card. I throw it both at you.
You guys, move fast. We go go through the entire
NFL slate on Sunday. Can't wait Fellas on Fox. All right,
welcome back, Fellas.

Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Brain and Jeff, two incredible pickers. Here we go, beginning
Saturday Sunday morning Live from Madrid, Washington, Miami, Miami two
and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
Brain, Yeah it's easy for me.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
Miami, Washington banged up on defense, Miami is actually shown
a pulse I think Miami went just won by double digits.

Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
Yeah, no, I bet Miami, but I think Miami would
be the side for the reasons he said, I just
stopped playing.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
It, all right, Uh, Flaco v. Rogers Pittsburgh five and
a half. It's a Steeler line also forty nine and
a half. We saw the shootout a couple of weeks back. Brain,
what do you got?

Speaker 5 (01:53:34):
Well? I lean here, didn't bet it. Lean here. Pittsburgh
is interesting. I took bus six like three weeks ago.
Nothing really changed. I took plus six in Cincinnati. Now
I get a late five man in Pittsburgh. I think
maybe the line's a little bit short. Lean here Steeers
didn't bet it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:49):
I bet this game. I don't know what to make
of Pittsburgh. Who knows what pittsburghs gonna sho up? They're
gonna voo Pittsburgh that forces seven turnover?

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
Is they gonna have? You know, the Pittsburgh we saw
last weekend? So I stayed away, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Chargers Jaguars, Chargers two and a half over Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (01:54:10):
For me, Yeah, this isn't to me again. I really
think that jack So it's just really not good. And
I think the Chargers outside of the quarterback really not
that good. I thought this was the right number. Again,
out of all the games on the board, this is
one of the hardest ones for me. Not again. I'm
betting slightest the slight leans the Chargers, but I'm passing Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:54:33):
You can have Jacksonville at three earlier this week. I
think that was the only play. But I'm not playing
this game either. Jeez, you haven't got to a game
I like yet. Let's Bill's Buccaneers.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Maybe this is the one Buffalo five and a half
forty eight and a half or chieving forty six and
a half against Tampa Bay brain Ye's.

Speaker 5 (01:54:53):
I had said, yes that there are a lot of
games I like. You just haven't gotten any of them yet.
Tough game for me, tough game for me. The slightest
of slight leans for Buffalo here, but Baker's beat me
many times when I'm down on them. But Buffalo off
that bad performance. I just think we have to see
a good one lean here Bills, but couldn't quite get
to the window to bet it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:12):
Yeah, it feels like the USC Iowa game. I like
Tampa Bay here, but if this game was like thirty
one to fourteen. Buffalo wouldn't surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:55:18):
Me, right, something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
I just think Buffalo's defense is not good. Tampa's gonna
run the football, and offensively, Buffalo has a real problem.
So remember, Tampa did play terribly well. They got be
in the trenches last week by New England. I think
they played much better. I like the thought and a
half of Tampa.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
All right. Vikings Bears Vikes late two and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:55:37):
I like the Vikings Syrians, and they like this is
actually game. I bet pretty big. I think the Bears
are the most bagkest of fake teams in the NFL.
I think the Vikings are the better team at home.
I think the Vikings win this game by a touchdown.
Give me a Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:55:52):
I like Vikings too. I think you nailed it. That's
the right take on this game.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
Let's make that unanimous. I love the uh Texas and Titans.
We just just skip skip this game for time. How
about that. I'll just make the Falcons and Panthers falcon
like a hand. I like this game too.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
I like the Falcons, be honest. I get the fact
they're coming back overseas. I think the Carolina is the
second most ridiculous team outside of that they including the Bears,
that just isn't as good as their five and five record.
I think the Falcons way more talented. Need a game.
They lost thirty nothing rematch. I say the Falcons win
this one by two touchdowns. Give me Atlanta line three
and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
I don't bet Falcons games executive rule.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
So they lose thirty to nothing to that team. There's
no way in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:56:42):
Have you watched both these teams playing. There's just no way.
There's just no chance I put any money on this game. Yeah,
I know, I get suck. I like it, Atlanta man,
I do. I love Bejon. I love the London Pitts.
You know anyway, Packers Giants six and a half. When

(01:57:02):
you say brain, well.

Speaker 5 (01:57:04):
Actually look at that. I bet plus seven, ma hal
if you can still it's still seven. Even a few
seventy's out there at me, it's seven Giants to Seline
for me. I know, I know Jamis is a turnover machine.
I get it, But this Packers team, I just cannot
lay points with this team. I cannot say how impotent
they are on the offensive side of the ball. To
me again, I bet the Giants plus seven a half.

(01:57:25):
I think the Giants keep this completed, even with Jamis
being Jamis.

Speaker 4 (01:57:28):
Uhback, Giants plus seven is one of my better ways
of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
I just think that you guys would I can't. There's
no way you could bet Jamis. I don't know how
you're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:57:39):
It's not really so it's a couple of things. It's
it's more about the Packers are horrendous, like they're They're
not good right now? No, no, I watched the game
on that that the Giants, their defensive line is really good.
They can disrupt Jordan's love, I don't know. And they
can't stop the run. How they're gonna stop Jacobs? Did
Packers stop themselves by a bunch of first down runs?

(01:58:01):
When everyone knows you want to come on, I think
you're wishing it in the prayer there.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
I get.

Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
We'll play close against a bunch of teams.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
I'll go to move Seahawks, Rams, Brain, We'll start. What
game have they Seahawks and Rams?

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:58:18):
What funny? I had no interest in that in this game, none, zero, zilch.
But the linemakers that give me no choice. And I
thought the line should have been two and a half.
I took plus three and a half yesterday laying one ten.
There's no way. I don't care what Zilla plays out.
There's no way the Rams should laying three and a
half here. They just shouldn't be. I think the teams
are even. I'll take Seattle, all right, We're.

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
Gonna go Yeah, Okay, Chiefs, Broncos, Chiefs, straight and a
half brain.

Speaker 5 (01:58:44):
You know, Look, I Denvers, just OUs. Denver's been so
another fake team with their record. Is it a game
in the past. I know I would take Denver and lose,
I believe it or not. I'm actually gonna lean Kansas
of the Year under all.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
Right, Eagles, Lions. We got to know. All Right is out.