FOX Sports Sunday with Hartman and Ohrnberger: 05/17/2020

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:22):
and I do a radio show six days a week,
five days a week from our Fox Sports affiliate in
San Diego, and of course here on Sunday's on the
Fox Sports Radio network. But we have been separated for
a long time, and that's gonna change tomorrow, Rich, I
will actually see your face for the first time in

(00:44):
sixty three days. Sixty three days was the last time
I saw you, and that will be tomorrow. The last
day we saw each other was March six. So um,
I'm anxious to get back and not only seeing you,
but some of the other people that are in our
San Diego studios looking forward to that are they Are

(01:06):
they gonna have a welcome back Hartman? Or I mean,
is there gonna be a parade? What exactly should I
expect upon my return uh to the studios tomorrow? Well,
I the only thing you can really expect is just
potentially a nice spray down, a showering of lysol as
you enter the building, look disinfect in sprays and anti

(01:29):
septic lotions and uh cloths that that killed germs are
are readily available. So if you're looking for a gift, uh,
it's gonna be something most likely lemon scented. That's that's
my guess. Now, the last time you were in this studio,
the Fox Sports radio studio, because we are separated by studios,

(01:50):
you remember the the initial bottle of hand sanitizer that
we had here. Um, I am now holding the new
bottles as much smaller bottle, and it's it really looks generic.
It doesn't even have a brand name on it. It It
just says anti bacterial hand sanitizer, Lique says, and then
Yellow Doubt says, please pump slowly and only once per use.

(02:13):
So there it is. Where did this actually come from? Gavin?
This this bottle here, because it is generic, didn't have
a brand name or anything on it. I think that's
a homebrew. That is, it's a little lighter, a little
more liquid. E not as I know, it's not the same.
I have my own bottle of purel that I keep
locked away in a secret compartment here our studios. But

(02:35):
that stuff is a little too liquid. E scored right
up here, So I actually think it is a is
someone combining different chemicals that create your own purel. It
smells about the same. Yes, by the way, Steve, Yeah,
if it says anti bacterial, that's great, But is it
anti viral? It has to kill the virus, not bacteria.

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It does have the ingredients on here, including one word
that has so many letters I can't even begin to
tell you, So don't so when I get back there, though, Rich,
I mean, there's gotta be purell bottles all over the place, right, Yeah,
there's there's I mean, look, it's all you see anymore.
And uh yeah, you're absolutely right. Everybody's looking for a homebrew,
a home remedy, as these things are more and more

(03:19):
difficult to find. I'm not even kidding you. I was
on a website that posted a Q and a blog
to answer questions about coronavirus uh disinfectant, you know, effective disinfectants.
And one of the questions that this website fielded was
can urine kill the virus? And it was more of
like a funny commentary, but it was Yeah, just just

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for anybody who's listening before I go any further, No,
urine doesn't kill the virus, so what whoever does not,
whoever peeing on their countertops or on the their hands
like you know, or their children's hands, just go ahead
and stop it because you're not doing anybody face. Yes, well,
there is no cure right now, so we know that.

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By the way, very uh distressing story about Dexter Manly,
the former All pro. Of course, his story became very
famous that he actually played in the NFL and was illiterate,
could not read or write. It's amazing that he went
through college by the way, his college coach with Jimmy Johnson,
but he had it was a very you know, amazing
story and that he had battled through all this throughout

(04:25):
a great NFL career. But right now he is battling
COVID nineteen. He's got pneumonias sixty one years of age,
so our thoughts are with him right now. Um, this
is a little bit different here today. Rich Uh, It's
Sunday and we got NASCAR, which is going to start
in about two and a half hours. I found it interesting.
I was watching a variety of news shows this morning. Uh,

(04:46):
Fox New Sunday. Chris Wallace does the show, and he
was saying that today was the first major sport event,
major sport event. Of course, Fox is the home of NASCAR,
so I know how they're plugging in everything else. But
I want to ask you this, because we talked about
this with UFC two forty nine, whether that event would

(05:08):
have any effect on the major team sports. How about
today with NASCAR? Does this NASCAR event have any bearing
on us getting Major League Baseball bat or the NBA
or the launch of the NFL season. Does it have
any impact on any of the major team sports that
are the lifeblood of American sports fans. Uh, look, not really,

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But I will say this, if there are any fringe
fans of NASCAR who really put that that sport on
a shelf with other interests afoot. You know, whether it
be the baseball season, the NBA playoffs which are typically
taking place during this time, Uh, you know, the preseason
in the NFL, whatever excitement you can gather from that. Uh.

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With all that out of the way, if you were
in your past a NASCAR fans, or if you pay
attention to the race, results, but you don't find enough
time to really carve out a sit down to watch
four hundred laps. Uh. This is a this is an
avenue for NASCAR to steal some of those fans back,

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and I think that's exactly what's happened with the UFC.
I'm a fight fan, and when I say that, people
probably think it's very odd. We don't talk on our
show about boxing or mixed martial arts very much, you know,
the five day week show we do together in San
Diego or this one. But I am a fight fan.
I am interested in keeping up with boxing. I'm interested

(06:38):
in keeping up with the UFC, although I don't watch
a lot of these events. However, I tuned into UFC
last night. I watched Alistair Overream and that any way
about against Walt Harris. Quite a turnaround, by the way
in that fight, Oh my goodness, so so big ticket Harris.
I mean, he had an early barrage against over Ream

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that you thought was going to ko ko over him.
But he's a veteran. He was able to weather the
storm and in the second round get a back mount
and absolutely raindown shots to you, Mr UFC. Well, the
crazy thing about it is typically I wouldn't waste any
time talking about the UFC because there are usually bigger
sports stories of foot. But in this void of sport,

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I am really happily surprised with how normal it feels
watching a UFC event, And and a big tip of
the cap to Dana White, a big tip of the
cap to the decision makers at the UFC for moving
forward with this. It's a limited group of people that

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you need to clear to certify that they are free
of COVID nineteen in order to UH put on these events,
and they've kept that number down. These are empty arenas
in Jacksonville, Florida. I I I've been impressed. So, you know,
back to NASCAR, if you're a fan of race sports
but you don't find enough time to typically watch them,

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if they find a safe way to continue to pump
out content, I know, I know because of my own
interactions with the UFC, being a fight fan who puts
my my fanship on a shelf, you know, because I'm
a baseball fan and a basketball fan primarily, you're gonna
get a lot of those fans back, and I think
it's I think it's smart if you can find a

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safe way to do it, all right, So I want
to go over a couple of things they're doing for this,
all right, What are the safety precautions for NASCAR? And
there's one element to this that may be surprising to people,
but let's go over this, all right. So, uh, there's
obviously gonna be health screenings prior to entering the race
track at check of temperature. Vital signs compared with health
notes will be supplied on site medical teams. They basically said,

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a look like the t s a airport screening line,
but with thermometers. All right. Also, when they get inside
the track, they'll be subject to random light screen needs
throughout the day. Thermal cameras will monitor their temperatures as
they work. But here's the one thing. Nobody will be
given a COVID nineteen test. Nobody. NASCAR is says it

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does not want to take test away from the general public.
So they're not, unlike what we're talking about, all this
COVID nineteen testing and masks, you know, tends of thousands
of tests for the return of the NBA or the
start of the Major League Baseball season. They are not
doing COVID nineteen testing at NASCAR now. There. You're gonna
be very strict about one thing, right, and that is Look,

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if you refuse to wear a mask, you're out of here.
They're they're zero tolerance. If you refuse or wear a mask,
you will be escorted out. You're done. Um and massive
fines by the way, as well, from NASCAR. In the garage,
there will be no handshaking, no hugging it out, no
contact with any one outside one's group, and every team

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will be confined to a designated work area. So social
distancing of that will complay. But are you surprised again
that they will proceed with no actual COVID nineteen testing.
I'm not surprised because this is a hotly debated item. Uh.
Why should athletes are high, high profile people be more Uh,

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I guess proficiently tested than the rest of society. So,
if you have a sport that involves a large, large
group of people coming together like NASCAR does, because those
pit crews aren't small, uh, the race teams are not small. Uh,
the confines can be tight, so you would need a

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lot of tests in order to throw an event. But
if you have a group of people who are okay
with the risks that they're taking. And clearly NASCAR does
have a group of people that are okay with these risks,
and you can put on a race. From a public
relations standpoint, this will probably get you some good pub
It really will in some circles. In some circles they'll

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say these guys are taking unnecessary risks, this sets a
bad example, etcetera, etcetera. So there will be some blowback.
Here's the risk you do take. Look, NASCAR isn't just
a young man's sport. There are some older people who
are going to be involved at these races, you know,
some of these crew chiefs and things like that. If
somebody gets sick enough that they're hospitalized, and god forbid

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they pass away as a result of COVID nineteen, that
is going to be headline news. And in the the
subtitle of that that headline, you're going to see no
COVID nineteen tests given to any of these racers or
their teams, and that's going to become a bigger problem
for NASCAR. So they're taking a measured risk here, and

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now they have a bunch of race dates here in
a very short time frame. So I think maybe what
they're doing is droving a little caution to win, to
get a bunch of races done all at once, because
we know there's a two week incubation phase for COVID nineteen.
Maybe they're trying to beat the clock and some ways
and see if they can fit in enough of these
events all in a row before the bad news catches

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up to them. I don't know exactly what the plan is,
but we're gonna see how this all unfolds in the
coming weeks. All Right, So NASCAR will start today out
in Darlington again. That is scheduled for a little over
two hours. So now by the way, yeah, gentlem gonna
start those engines. Um. But that's not the only live

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sporting event going on today. Yeah, we we got some
live sports and I'm not talking about cornhole, Okay, I'm
talking about other event. Yeah. I we watched yesterday. I
watched a lot of cornhole yesterday. But there's another event
and there's gonna be a twist in this event that
I'm gonna find refreshing, very refreshing. We'll tell you what

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dot com slash gearback for info and eligibility. So rich
we talked about Nascar. Uh, they'll start those engines in
a couple hours, but in less than now, about forty
minutes from now, they're gonna tee off for the Taylor
Made Driving Relief Event. It's a Skins competition at the
Seminole Golf Club in Juneo Beach, Florida. Rory mclroy, Dustin Johnson,

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Ricky Fowler, and a young twenty one year old first
year p g A player named Matthew Wolf Tholes will
be the four participants. They all lived down in that area. Uh.
And by the way, they're playing for charity. Every cent
three million dollars, three million dollars is on the line.
Mcarroy and Johnson will play together for the American Nurses Foundation,

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Fall and Wolf will play for the CDC Foundation. It's
gonna be It's a Skins competition. It's a team competition. Um,
here's something I think you're gonna like though, Rich, there's
no caddies. Okay, that means that all four golfers will
actually be carrying their own bags. Uh. They're gonna have
to tend their flagsticks, you know, like we all do,
like when we go out and play golf. You know,

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you have to pull the stick out and everything. And
basically they're gonna play golf like most of us play golf.
But it's gonna be interesting when you see big stars
like you know, Dustin Johnson and Roy mclarray, Ricky Fowler
playing like this, but all for a great cause. Again,
over three million dollars on the line today, I mean
some of these holes, like the eighteenth holes two dollars

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on the line. It's crazy money out there, but it's
it's it's for a good cause. And and again it
gives us a little taste they just seeing some recognizable
name golfers back out on the course. Yeah, I love it.
I love it because again this, uh, it falls into
the same category as the UFC. UH. If you can
find a way to do something safely, uh, and you

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can find a way to make sure that all the
participants in athletic event that in some part is going
to raise money for charities affiliated with COVID nineteen relief,
and then, on top of it, provide content and entertainment
via the sport that you make your living playing or
or running. Should you be a sports league commissioner. I

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completely get behind all of that. I really do you
know this, John wasn't kidding this Johnsonville UH corn Hole
League Championship tournament that's been going. I don't even know
what the hell it is, but I can tell you
right now, I watched about forty five minutes worth of
uh beanbag toss yesterday on my couch while my kid

(15:41):
was napping. Like so, when I tell you sports content
is important now, then it ever has been. I'm obviously
not stating anything all that novel. A lot of people
are feeling the same way. But this and other things
that golf is preparing to do, uh hoasting tournaments without galleries,

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televising events where where either uh you know, you have
former football players like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning taking
on Tiger Woods, and film Michaelson coming up now where
you can splash your sport across screens in America as
long as you can do it safely, is a very
intelligent decision to make. So yeah, I'm I'm back in it.

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I think it's great. Yeah, you mentioned the Tiger Woods
film Michelson, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady event that's coming up
on May four. If Ricky Fowler said something here, I mean,
obviously great golfer, he's made tens of millions of dollars,
not just on the course, but obviously in endorsements and
everything else. And you've talked about this a lot. People say,
you know, you can sit back and you know, none

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of these guys is worried about their next paycheck. Really,
I mean, you know they're set for life. But he
said it this way. At the end of the day,
we all love to compete. I mean, it's not just
a matter of earning a paycheck or you know, I
just want to compete. If you play sports at the
highest level, you've been competing the entire way. It drives

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you from the high school level to the college level
to the professional level. And you know, I remember seeing
an interview with Barnard Longer. He's a year older than me, right,
and he is still really competitive dominant at times on
the senior circuit, and they're like, I mean, why why,
I just like to compete. I want to test my

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skills against somebody else. And and just it's not about,
you know, the money and anything else. I don't The
money is nice, but it's not what drives me. And
and that's what it is with these professional athletes, is
they're just getting antsy right now for the chance to compete.
I'll tell you a story. So one of the it

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was pretty close to the end of my career in
the NFL. I was I was healthy, you know, I
had lost some weight, and I was in the gym
a lot, and and one of the evenings I was
pacing my house and you know, this is when we
have a young son, you know, and there's not much
to do. And my wife's like, what are you doing.

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She was like, you're bothering me. She's like, he's finally asleep,
come to bed. I don't know. It was probably like
nine or ten o'clock at night, and I'm like, I
can't sleep, I'm restless. And I tried to explain it
to her. But what was really going on inside of
me is I had that that loss I was feeling
that loss that evening of competition. But but aside from that,
I was feeling the loss of Like you know, there's

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a grind associated with being a professional athlete. You have
this desire, this burning desire inside of you, not only
to make yourself build yourself up to be the best
you possibly can do, but you also get used to
the breakdown as well. You get used to that feeling
of being sore and exhausted and beaten up and and

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it's all was thrilling to put the pieces back together.
In some ways, the the NFL season is a complete grind.
But if you embrace the grind, you actually can you
can sort of fall in love with with some of
the negative parts of it too. So I remember I said, look,
I have to go out. I said, I have to
get out of here. I said, I need to go
to a gym. And so I went to a twenty

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four hour Jim and I got on the elliptical and
I put myself through a workout and it lasted about
two hours, and that brought me to midnight, and I
remember feeling like I'm not done yet, So I did
the whole workout. I had just done a second time,
and so that brought me to two in the morning,
and so now I'm completely wiped. I'm completely exhausted, but

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in my brain the competition kicked in and all of
a sudden, like how many times can I do this awful,
you know, soul bending workout in a row. I ended
up staying at that gym from something like ten at
night all the way until eight thirty in the morning.
The next morning, my wife woke up and she called
me and she said, what are you doing? And I said,

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I'm at the gym. She's like you, She's like, did
you ever come home? I said no, She's like, get
your ass back home right now. And I came home
and I was so completely exhausted. I mean, I've never
done this since. Because she was so mad at me,
I was useless for the next couple of days because
my body was completely destroyed. I was broken down. I
was recovering from a workout. And the best thing I

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could do to describe it to her, I said, I
just missed the pain. I there. You just you start
to embrace all those things about your sport, and when
it goes away suddenly and you can't have it any longer,
you you you you go through withdrawals almost it's an addiction.
And so these athletes, you know, look, everybody talks about

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the millions of dollars and all that stuff, but for
their mental health to have sport taken away in some ways,
I mean, and look, there are more important things going on,
but I completely under damn the mentality of wanting to
get back as quickly as possible for some of these guys.
COVID nine team, be damned. I want my sport back
because it's it's ingrained in you. You can't defeat that

(21:12):
competitive spirit, and it is very difficult, especially when a
sport is teared away from you, as opposed to you
walking away from the sport to deal with that sometimes. Yeah,
I mean, as Fowler says, has been the longest break
I've ever had ever, uh, And he just wants to
compete again. It's all for charity. More than three million dollars. Again,
they're gonna be raising money for two very needy causes,

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the American Nurses Foundation and the c d C Foundation.
So that will tee off in about a half an hour,
all right, when the guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
On the other side, we got some good news and
bad news about the return of Major League Baseball. Right now,
let's find out what's trending. As David Gascon, are you
excited to um during our show today? You're gonna be

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updating knows on NASCAR little skins competition going on with
some big name golfers. What do you think NASCAR? Maybe? Yeah,
Golf No, No, golf no, I mean you do have Fouler,
you got McIlroy, Dustin Johnson, you got some big names
out there. It's for charity. Come on now, I mean
we'll why not just done it? The money to charity

(22:20):
then well, I mean, okay, it's amazing now it is
with golf like our ore are the guy that runs
our board in San Diego, brent Sbury? Yeah, I mean
he just hates golf like golf is like he'll watch
anything other than golf. I mean literally anything. There's a
lot of things I'll watch. Yeah, I mean I'll watch chess,

(22:42):
on poker, I'll watch guys throw spelling, spelling bee, No,
don't watch spelling. What about ping pong? At times? Especially pong?
I actually like ping pong a lot. I love ping pong. Yeah, uh,
I'm not especially if bet on that Russian ping pong

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and went all that money like that one guy. Dude,
that's pretty good deal. Guys. The NFL offseason continues to
uh to make headlines. Um Bell's defensive tackle at Oliver
today was arrested for drunk driving in Houston, Texas. Uh.
He was also been in charge with one kind of
unlawfully carrying a weapon. So check this out when the
police actually pulled him over after someone else dial nine

(23:24):
one officers pulled him over and reportedly he was caught
with a beer between his legs. Uh. Probably at the
web drive. Yeah. Oops, indeed, you guys mentioned it. Former
Washington Redskins Dexter manly hospitalized and was receiving oxygen to
treat breathing issues related to the coronavirus. Sixty one years
of age, he tested positive for the coronavirus back on May.
The second temperature has been running between a hundred and

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one and a hundred and four, and he's also battling pneumonia.
Giants quarterback DeAndre Baker was released on a two hundred
thousand dollar bond. Quentin Dunbar's lawyer on the Island says
his client is innocent of armed robbery. He sits in
jail right now on a thousand dollar Bunnies yet to
be released. Lines have signed their fourth round pick offensive
guarden Logan Stenberg to a four year deal and then

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dropping down to the college ranks. Former Arizona safety Scotty
Young has transferred to West Virginia as a graduate transfer. Guys,
the uh, the one thing I will watch and I
know you guys will do the final two episodes of
the Last Das. Yes, we will be getting into that conversation.
Come out. We got a lot to talk about it.
I think it was just unbelievable. We got a million

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things to talk about today, which is good. Now, did
you tell Rich that you have added to your You've
added to your your designer aware that usually sport here
at Yeah, it's uh, you're talking about what your mask?
My mask? Well the fashion of Steve. Yeah, well, I
you know, the mask is sort of big and um,

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so I'm I'm actually bringing when I returned to say
I have three map actually have four masks, four different
looking mask Okay, are there anyones that like, you know,
like you're gonna wash the other ones before you put
the fourth one on? Because you're a little embarrassed, like
it has like hearts on it or something like that.

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The one I'm holding, the one in morning today is
going to be washed and I I gotta get back
to my own laundry mat that That's one thing I
missed because I like to do my own laundry and
I haven't done that for a couple of months. It's
been done for me, which just sounds nice. But I
I sort of like to I like doing laundry. I
do you know you throw everything? Yeah, I just I
like it my laundry. I wish it was more to

(25:31):
do my laundry. That's the key right there. There's some
I wish it was more like that. Like there's some
people who get kind of zen, you know when they
do certain chores. There I haven't found yet. Uh and
ask my wife a single chore that I'm like really
in love with. So yeah, I'm I'm waiting for the

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day for that to happen. It hasn't happened yet. All
right again, coming to your Live from the Guy Go
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dot Comer Call eight hunder nine for seven otto. The
only hard part figuring out which way is easier. So
right in front of me, right now, I have Major
League baseball sixty seven page health and safety protocol outlining
the start of the season. I'm gonna read every word

(26:12):
of this. No I'm not, but I will paraphries a
little bit before we get to the bad part of
what we are going to be talking about of reopening
Major League Baseball. Let's go with some of the outlines
and at the very least, rich, Um, this is what
we've been looking for, right, So what are the guidelines
that are gonna be necessary for Major League Baseball to

(26:35):
launch its season? Uh, here's some of the highlights of this. Okay,
So first of all, grab the thermometer issue. To every
player Major League Baseball, take your temperature. They're gonna do
daily temperature, uh every every day? Okay? Um? And then
the and and and and and the specific language it

(26:57):
says you're like, wake up. Grabbed that the mom or
issue to every player Major League Baseball. Take your temperature.
Just make sure to do it before eating, drinking, or exercise,
and then take it again if it's over a hundred
degrees self is lake called the team physician get ready
to take a rapid response COVID nineteen tests. So you
get to the stadium, it says if you pass the

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temperature tests. This is this is a specific language in
this sixty seven page health and Safety protocol says here,
now if if you're okay, then you go to the stadium.
If you're on the road, it can be on any
of the six buses to the ballpark. Gets specifics about that.
You walk into the stadium, it says, uh. And then
it says maybe even in uniform. Already. By the way,

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one of the things they're talking about here is showering
after the game. You will not use the showers at
the stadium nowards when you're done, you will go home
and shower or go to your hotel room and shower.
That is one thing. Yeah, um, social distancing is absolutely adatory.
So what they have an idea here is and Gavin,

(28:03):
you can jump in because we're trying to clarify this
is but where the managers sitting, where the coaches are sitting.
But if you're not on the field, the only people
not wearing a mask are the people on the field.
Now I have to imagine the umpire probably be wearing
a mask. But as far as players are concerned, if
you're on the field, you will not have to wear

(28:25):
a mask. No mask. Um, there are rules about the ball.
If the ball touches two players, which it's hard to
see it not happening, that ball is disposed of and
the new ball is brought in. Well obviously that if
you if you there's a groundball to short, there's one
guy touching and throws the first that's to that ball,
that's get a new ball. Now let me read directly

(28:46):
from Jeff. Wait a second, Yes, go ahead, just this idea.
So the picture is a person and the catcher as
a person. Correct, every every pitch is thrown out. Yes,
when when the picture needs some grip, he better not
lick his fingers. He has a personal rosing bag for
that ros and whatever. The hitter who needs some tach

(29:08):
has his own pine tar rag. When a hitter wax
the single to left field and gets on first base,
he should skip the small talk. Socializing and fraternizing are forbidden. Yeah,
there's no, there's none of that. And then there's no
fist pumps or anything like that. That that is completely
and By the way, how about this now, rich I
want to ask you about this. So there's no sunflower seeds,
no chewing tobacco. Zero. Now, anyone that has been in

(29:32):
a Major league dug out at the end of the game,
it is a cess pool. I mean, it is a
petri dish because everyone is spitting, whether they're spitting tobacco
or spitting nowadays more of sunflower seeds. It's unreal. The
floor of a dugout, the end of a game, all
that is disallowed. Now, if you are you haven't brought

(29:53):
this up. What if you're sort of like a tobacco attic,
like you're used to chewing nicke seen everything else, and
you can't spit. Is nicoderm or the gums or will
that work? I mean I don't know. I don't think
they can't. There's no spitting, no sunflower seeds. No with look,

(30:13):
you know, with the gum you don't necessarily need to spit,
but with tobacco you certainly do. One thing I do
know for sure is look, you could you could, and
you could try to enforce all these rules, and you
could give gentle reminder to these players. But considering how
much these players are going to be personally risking by

(30:35):
getting back to the sport. Uh much like UFC. Can
you imagine if in the UFC you you came out
with a flyer of rules like this. I mean, how
the heck are you going to legislate any of this?
You're just you're not going what are you gonna throw
a guy out of a game because he's spent in
the infield. You're just not gonna be able to do it.
And so I understand putting it on paper makes everybody

(30:58):
feel better about the league coming back, But some of
this is just I mean, frankly, it's just ridiculous, all right.
So here's a couple more saying. Again, this is a
specific language from the sixty seven page Health and Safety Protocol.
Outline says, at least you can take your mask off
on the field. You'll be out there plenty. It may
look a little odd. No water or sports drink jugs

(31:19):
in the dugout. No sunflower seeds are dip. You can't spit,
high five, DApp hug, none of that. Now game time,
there's no lineup card exchange. They will be sent via APP.
The manager is standing along the railing. He's not allowed
to be on the steps. Isn't the railing on the steps?
I don't know how that works. Other coaches are spread

(31:40):
out six ft from another. The rest of the bench
is sparsely popular. Only players likely to enter the game
can be in the dug out. The rest are in
the stands. The look closest you can sit to anyone
is with four empty seats between you and two empty
rows behind you. I miss. This just goes on and

(32:01):
on and on and on and on. What about no showering? That?
The game showering that from the article to shower decree
fired up a number of players. They quote, I really
hope no showers doesn't become the new second seat on
the bus, which I think goes back to imagine them,

(32:21):
imagine they really want to shower together. Well, think about this.
Imagine if you had just played an NFL game, Rich, okay,
and you've taken off your uniform but you haven't showered,
and you've got all your teammates unshowered, then getting on

(32:42):
a bus to take you back to the hotel. Uh. Like,
I've been in the NFL locker room a million times,
as you know, So give give us a sense of
like an NFL team unshowered. Uh after a game on
a bus, give us a little sense of that. Let's
let's just put it this way. Uh, nobody wants to

(33:04):
be there. That would be That would be the kindest
way I put it. Look there, there are guys who
struggle with hygiene as it is, and so when they
hit the field prior to even starting to sweat their
little rank. Um. If you have a group of men,
and in this case would be about thirty getting on
a bus together after working hard, Uh, yeah, it's gonna be.

(33:26):
It's gonna be unpleasant to say the very much. The plane. Well,
imagine forget that I'm just talking about from the game.
You get on the the bus driver might pass out
at the wheel. I mean that that guy would literally
have to be quarantined somehow. He would literally have to

(33:46):
be all right. So these are some of the extents.
By the way, this is amazing. Here it says, when
the picture needs some grip, do not lick your fingers.
You mentioned the rosin bag there, Gavin. When a hitter
Wax is singlet the field gets on first. He should
skip the small talk. No socializing at all, safe for fighting.
Don't be too nice opponents, don't be mean. Oh and

(34:09):
that ball that went into left, get rid of it.
If it's in play, in touch by multiple players, it's
no longer good. So that's but I don't you You
mentioned rich Well a whole lot of sake in here.
Obviously every single pitch is handled by both the pitcher
and the catcher. Yeah, yeah, but that's okay. Look here
here's the deal. Yeah, this, this is none of this

(34:30):
makes particular sense, which if you think about in the
framework of what we're discussing, is this a smart idea
during a global pandemic to have this many people in
this close of proximity playing a sport together. Probably not.
But again, the same way I feel about UFC, the
same way I feel about NASCAR, to a certain extent,

(34:51):
We'll see how it all works out. If every single
person who takes the field, every single person who's in
a manager's cap, every single um or who's putting on
their chest protector, they feel comfortable with the circumstances while
then playball, because guess what, this is, after all, a
free country, and while there are many people who are

(35:12):
hurting because of this virus, if you can find a
safe way to keep these players essentially protected from the
outside world, and the outside world protected from these players
who are essentially going to be sharing all of their
transmittable germs as they would in normal circumstances. Because at
some point it's not a completely non contact sport. There's

(35:34):
going to be contact. There's gonna be an exchange where
you know, uh, saliva droplet at second base because you know,
a second baseman is leaning over for the tag, it's
gonna drop into the eye of the base runner, and
they're going to infect each other. You know, it's just
it's going to happen. So as long as everybody's comfortable

(35:55):
with it, whatever the outline is, as ridiculous as it sounds,
and as any pages, as as they've wasted to go
through all of this, then I'm completely fine, fine with it.
I I don't know if they're going to get there
where where everybody's on the same page, but if they
can somehow find a way to get you know, upwards

(36:15):
of a thousand or people all shaking their head in
concerts saying yeah, we could do this, Well, let's let's
let's play ball. Then go play ball. I got no
problem with it, all right, We're in the guy go
Fox Sports Radio Studio. So all this is great, okay,
as far as you know all the rules and everything else,
but it's a moot point if they can't actually get
players on the field, the impass between the players and

(36:38):
the owners. What is this all about. We'll give you
a clear explanation coming up next Steve Harman, Rich Harburger
coming Alive, and the guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
All right, so let's let's make this as simple as possible.
Back in March, when baseball shut down spring training, the

(36:59):
owners and the players both agreed to a pro rated
salary situation based on the number of games played. That's
how much you would get paid. So if you have
an eighty two game season, essentially a half season, you
will get half your salary. The players agreed to it,
and the owners agreed to it. It was all set,

(37:19):
we're gonna do a pro rated salary situation based on
how many games are actually played. Both sides agreed. Then
the owners came out with a whole different idea. After
agreeing to the pro rated salaries. They said, we're gonna
do at fifty revenue split. And you say, well, that
sounds good. What revenue. We don't know even know what

(37:39):
revenue you're talking about. And by the way, what they're
talking about is essentially whatever your contracts say. Forget that.
We're gonna give the players of the revenue and then
how they distributed, that's up to you players. I mean,
this thing was so ridiculous, so over the top that
it did instantly met When you heard Blake Snell, you've
heard Clayton Kerr Shaw. I mean, here are all these

(38:01):
people saying, are you nuts? First of all, Enrich, we've
talked about this. When when you say a fifty fifty
split of the revenue, is that the revenue that the
owners are reporting? Are they ready to open up the
books and tell us exactly how much money is being generated?
By the way, what revenue were talking about? If there
are no fans in the stands, where where is this

(38:22):
revenue coming from? The TV contracts, which, by the way,
a regional, not necessary national. I mean, there's there were
so many elements to this, and the players are like,
we we already agreed, you agreed, we agreed, pro rated,
suff we're willing to take half of Like imagine this,
Imagine this, so you have an employer, your employer open

(38:43):
a business. You're again, you're probably at this point very
happy just to have a job if that employer has
been able to keep you employed through this pandemic. But
are you expecting to be paid more than what you
typically earn? No? Might you take less than you typically
earned during this pandemic? Yeah you might. But overall, what

(39:06):
you're seeing is people either working reduced hours for the
money that they usually get paid to do their job,
or they're getting paid the same amount, but they're gonna
get paid for the work they do, so the pro
rated salaries made sense. This idea of splitting revenue is asinine,
and the owners knew that the players were gonna throw
it back in their faces and they were gonna complain

(39:28):
about money, which would do the owners some benefit in
getting fan support on their side, saying, well, we tried,
but these greedy players don't want to play for less.
Here's the deal. Players take risks in order to play.
Blake Snell, he throws a fast botne miles per hour.
It gets turned around at one fifteen back at the mound.

(39:48):
He could lose his life. Now, I'm not saying he will.
It happens very rarely that pictures, even get hurt. But
he's taking a risk with his life to play for
a billionaire owner. Now what risk did the owners take? Well,
the owners take risks, certainly they take risk financial risks.
So if you're going to host a season during a pandemic,

(40:09):
you're taking a risk, but you're providing content for your
fan base and maybe it's going to result in more
money and revenues after this pandemic. So, hey, owners, it's
time to take some risk. Yeah, I mean, this is
the risk. Word is a four letter word, but it
is a necessary word to use in the conversation. All Right,

(40:30):
we're in the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. So
what about the NBA? What about Major League Baseball? What
about the NFL? It does come down to risk and
whether it's worth it. We'll explain coming up next. Rolling
along on this Sunday, Hartbin and Orem Burger with you
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(40:53):
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Told us told you in the last hour that tomorrow
Rich and I we'll see each other for the first
time in sixty three days, sixty three days. It's the
last time we were separated where we didn't see each
other for sixty three days. It's before I met you.
As simple as that. Yeah, it is as simple as
because you did you did the show before I. I've

(41:14):
seen you every day, I mean basically. So yeah, yeah,
welcome back, Steve Ye. Now, yeah, we're gonna be We're
gonna be obviously, uh exposed to each other more than
we have been in recent weeks. So I'm going to
give you a preview if I can. Uh, my hair

(41:37):
is much longer, i haven't received the haircut, um, and
I'm sporting what I would call, uh, it's it's a
it's not an alarming beard, but it isn't it's it's
not fun to look at. Let's put it that way.
It's it's kind of patchy. It's dark in some places,
it's got a little gray in other places. Uh. So

(42:00):
you're gonna have to get used to, uh to the
new rich, this new normal. Well, I will prepare you
that when I arrive, I will look exactly the same, okay,
because I never change, and my hair is darker than ever,
and uh, I'm clean shaven, and I do have the
new raised shirts that I was sporting before we went down. Um,

(42:21):
so I will have my new routine. Um. One reason
I'm happy to get out of l A and back
to San Diego. It was a comment made by the
Mayor of l A, Eric Garcetti, who says, we will
never be completely open until we have a cure. Um.
There are a lot of viruses and diseases that we
have been seeking cures for for hundreds of years and

(42:43):
still have not found. So that's the criteria the city
of Los Angeles never being open until they have a cure.
Then best Apparently I will never be open because cure
is a big word. I mean, when another four letter word.
I mean, we have the diseases like cancer, heart disease

(43:04):
where you you have ways to deal with it and
and we've made great strides in that, but there's no cure.
There's no like, you know, magical cure where you know
you get a shot and it's gone and it would
work for everybody. So that has alarmed a lot of
people where you're saying, if if we're waiting for a
cure for COVID nineteen as opposed to maybe a vaccine

(43:27):
that could help us deal with it, or maybe less
fewer people get infected. That's one thing. But if you're
looking for a cure and that's your criteria opening up
the city, then then you got a problem. You got
a major problem. Yeah you have. You have everybody uh
in cars and and Los Angeles is one of the
most densely traffic uh or should I I don't even

(43:51):
know how to frame this, but you know that it
has some of the most uh dense traffic. And everybody's
in their car in the entire our world, and you're
talking about in the top ten in the world. Everybody's
in their car. You have urban sprawl in Los Angeles.
It's a county, uh that is the most densely populated
county in the country. So l A has an issue

(44:13):
with how many people get in their cars every day.
Automobiles kill a ton of people every single day, and
in Los Angeles County it's, you know, under normal circumstances
responsible for an alarming amount of deaths. But getting in
your car and driving from your home to your workplace,
from your workplace to the grocery store, from the grocery

(44:34):
store to the hardware store, from the hardware store to home.
Whatever you know, errands that you have to run is
considered essential because that's what keeps the economy afloat, and
it is a risk that we are all willing to
take in order to do so. Look, I'm not saying
the coronavirus is driving your car, but at some point,
at some point, we are all going to have to

(44:56):
face it if there's no cure available. That part of
the risk to keep our economy rolling is going to
be exposing ourselves to a virus that could harm us,
that could potentially harm our family members, that could potentially
kill us or our family members. The same way, when
I get into the car and I strapped my family

(45:18):
into the vehicle with me, I understand, I'm taking a
roll of the dice. Sure, well, this this is what
I'm saying, is that risk is part of life all
the time. And people say, well, if I locked myself
at home, I had a tragic situation, or a former
neighbor of ours she was home alone and she choked
to death on a piece of meat. She died. We

(45:40):
have people that fall in their house, we have people
that slip in the shower fatally. I mean, there is
no avoiding risk. Every day, we risk, We don't know.
You know, the people that went to the Twin Towers
for what seemed to be a normal day of work
on nine eleven, they had no idea that they were
at risk that day, but they lost their lives. So

(46:02):
they're this idea of because some kind of guarantee or
anything else. Look, if if you if you take the risk,
that's on you. Okay, you know what the risk are,
So you know what the risk are. If you choose
not to take the risk, you're free to do that
as well. Well, and you know, and see see that's
this is my problem with all of this. It is

(46:24):
like you have politicians and I'm talking about you know,
across all political exactly, saying ridiculous things. You know, look,
we had a president and whatever your politics are, I
don't care. I mean, like this conversation is a political
we're concentrating on the risk you're taking. But we had
a president who's talking about this virus like it was
gonna be gone in April. Well, you know, it became

(46:46):
a catastrophic death count as it was. Okay, you know,
but but but he didn't know, right, So here's where
we're at. Well, now we have governors, you know, like
in this state of California, who, by the way, is
on the opposite side of the aisle, who printed out
a documentation that lists all the things California's are allowed

(47:07):
to do during this pandemic. You're allowed to go to
the beach, but you're not allowed to lay down a towel.
You're allowed to right, You're allowed to go fishing, but
not with friends. You're allowed to take out a paddle board,
but but don't be too close to the person on
the next paddle board. Look, we're We're a functioning society

(47:30):
of people who are used to their freedoms. When you
start saying things that are untrue at the presidential level
or any political level, it creates distrust. When you set
a structure of restrictions on a free people. UH to
tell us how we're supposed to uh evade the risks

(47:54):
of a disease that even health experts keep throwing their
hands up and saying, well, we don't know how long
it's gonna last, and we don't know if they will
ever be a cure, and we're trying our hardest, and
this thing keeps changing, and you know, we've seen some success.
You have to let people make their own decisions. At
a certain point, I understood the lockdown and I understood

(48:15):
the shelter in place orders when we were facing something
that we had never faced before. We had no idea
what we're facing. And I agree with a lot of
the things that we've taken apart in some of this
social distancing stuff, wearing face masks to protect yourselves and
others in public, especially closely congregated public spaces. But at
a certain point, the same way I'm going to operate

(48:38):
a vehicle more safely when my family's in it, or
sometimes just when I know that I'm going into a
risky area onto a freeway away from the you know,
in unknown territories, I'm going to be more careful. You
have to allow people to to to operate their lives
and either proceed with caution or not. You have to

(49:00):
let them operate their lives well. And that's exactly the point.
And this is what we're running into now as we
bring it back to our sports world about reopening up
their sports. There's gotta be a certain trust factor. I
think after two months of this, I think we get
it right. I think now instinctively we are for the

(49:20):
most part adjusting to social distancing. So we get it.
And if we are in a crowdit area at a
store somewhere like that. I don't think anyone's really hesitating
to put on a mask, you know. I mean if
you if you're walk in the store, you put a
mask on, right. Um. But if you're out and about,

(49:40):
if you're having to walk on the beach, maybe you
have a mask with you. If somebody walks by you, uh,
and you put the mask on. But you're not gonna
have to walk around with a mask. Seven. No one's
gonna do that. I think we get it. I think
there just has to be a certain level of trust
right now that we have figured this out, we've been
exposed to what it's been advertised to us. We get it. Um,
the idea. Appreciate the education, Steve, I really do. I

(50:03):
I appreciate hearing from Dr Faultre Fauci and Dr Burkes.
I appreciate hearing from other medical officials as they go
on our news channels and they educate us. I'm talking
about people who have spent their life studying epidemiology, who
have studied the effects on the ravages of infectious disease
on large groups of people and how they spread. I'm

(50:26):
fascinated by it now. I never thought I would be
this interested in this, uh and for good reason, because
obviously it helps me protect myself from the people around me,
the people I care about. But I am an adult, Okay,
I'm a thirty four thirty thirty four year old man. Okay,
I lose tracks sometimes. I I can make decisions now

(50:47):
with the information I've been handed, to make good, responsible choices.
There's a seatbelt in my car. I use it. I
know not everybody uses their seatbelt, but I use mine
because I understand the risk I'm taking when I'm not
wearing that seatbelt, so I choose to wear my seatbelt.
You can't help everybody. Now. You could ticket some people,
and I understand in some places you want to have

(51:09):
these mandates enforced and things like that, and you want
to ticket some people for certain things that are egregiously
out of line considering what we're trying to do as
a society. Okay, I could see some of it, but
we can't take this too far. You have to allow
people to make choices. And in the sports world, I
think that's what the UFC has done, and they've done
a magnificent job. They've said, hey, look we're still gonna

(51:32):
stage fights. If you're uncomfortable with this, you don't have
to be a part of it. But if you want
to be involved, we're gonna test everybody. We're gonna sequest
you in a hotel where every single person is tested
on on a weekly basis. Every single day. You're gonna
have your temperature taken. Nobody's gonna be allowed to stay
if they have symptoms of any infectious disease. And we're
gonna host fights. Are you enter, you out? And guess what.

(51:55):
Adult men and women who are fighters in the octagon
have their own decisions on this, and as a result,
the UFC is stealing back fans and pumping out content.
It's it's a good method to sort of live your
life by just understand the risks, be careful and live

(52:16):
your life. Yeah, they're gonna have to do this, and
they are doing it. And again, unfortunately in this country,
and this is on both sides of the aisle, and
everything is politicized. Everything, every single everything is politicized. Both
sides are gearing up for this political battle in an
election year, and so My suggestion to you is instead

(52:41):
of just getting inundated in almost beingforced to take sides,
forget all that right, think about what's best for you
your family. You understand the risk, we all get it,
and then make your own choices. I think that's the
American way, that should be the world way, and that's
how we proceed by the way. I'm watching some golf
right now. Okay, I mean watching a little golf there.
The guys have their own bags, you know, they have

(53:02):
like the little roller like we have with our bags,
and they're just out there playing little golf right now.
Rory McElroy, Dustin Johnson, uh Ricky Pollers some of those
that are playing today. So we're watching a little golf
right now, which is nice. They're trying to figure out
the flagpole right now. They the flag is in and
the flags in the state in. Normally you would have

(53:23):
your caddy they're holding the flag, but there are no
caddies right now. Um, so we're seeing we're seeing a
different way of golf, which is actually pretty cool. All right,
When the guy go Fox Sports Radio studios, we're gonna
get back to the NBA because their facilities are open.
But there are a lot of players showing up. Exactly
is going on. We're gonna tell you. Coming up next

(53:45):
Steve Harmon and Rich Harmburger coming Alive and the guy
go Fox Sports Radio Studios. So yesterday I went to
my TV station and our main reporter guy, uh, we
have three guys who work at our station. Um, he
gets a call from the news department that they wanted
him to do a live shot in the five and

(54:07):
six o'clock news. I understand, we've been doing very limited
sports basically, like at ten o'clock and then we do
a late night show where we do a little chat
and everything else. But they wanted him to do a
live shot in the five and six o'clock news from
the Lakers opening practice. Okay, and and he's like, okay,

(54:30):
and these are news people. I mean again, they are
not really up to you know. So they were under
the impression that the Lakers were gonna have their full
blown practice. And first of all, he said, Lebron's not there.
He's not there. Uh. In fact, as it turned out,

(54:52):
this is classic. They were like, well, you mean it's
not a real practice. He goes, no, we're we're we're
months away from practice. All they're doing is opening up
their facility so players can come down and use the facility. Well,
as it turned out, at the Laker facility, there were
two players that showed up and they were none of

(55:13):
their front line players. There's a couple of guys that
came down just to you know, use the hoop and
and shoot around a little bit. So so it was
hilarious because they're like, oh, so we got the practical
labron is gonna be out there a d None of
those guys are there. Okay, they have their own workout areas.
You're not gonna say any practice until we actually get

(55:35):
the season lined up. So this this was hilarious. And
so obviously he didn't do any live shots from the
so called practice. So this idea that they were opening
up facilities really didn't amount a whole lot. It really
was just an opportunity which for maybe guys that didn't
have access to their own home gym like so many

(55:56):
of these Stars av or whatever facilities they've been using.
Because that's where we are right now. We were we
are still, as the Commissioner Adam Silver said, two to
four weeks away before we have any decision on how
we are going to attempt to we start the season. Yeah. Look,
I mean you're talking about two to four weeks away

(56:17):
from having a discussion about how you get started again,
like so publicly. He could come out on June fifteenth
and say, yeah, after discussions, we're canceling the whole NBA season.
It is obviously a heavy heart we do this. Or
he could come out sometime in earlier mid June and say, okay,
here's the battle strategy. And then, much like your co

(56:41):
patriot there at kat l A said, we're gonna be
months off from seeing any significant court time from any
of these stars that were used to seeing on our
screens at home. All right, let me let me jump
in because I want to do the timetable. Okay, as
far as the NBA is concerned, yeah, go ahead. So
let's say let's get let's say we take up the

(57:01):
whole four weeks. Let's say we get the June and
now the commissioner says, here is what we're going to do.
All right, So as far as the regular season is concerned,
Benny on the team, do you that have seventeen or
eighteen games left? That's a month it would take. And
if you were to complete the entire remainder of the
regular season, that's a month. So start adding this up, folks.

(57:24):
So first of all, everyone agrees, and I've talked to
Katino Mobili here other players. Three weeks, three weeks of
actual practice, and how does that break down? Well, first
you get that first week you started get out of
the court and run around again, getting back into basketball shape.
Then the second week you start doing some of you know,
two three four season starting. So if you're if you've

(57:47):
got to have three weeks of practice together as a team,
then if you want to complete the regular season, that's
another full month, brings you to the second week of August.
And now the missioner has made this clear is that
he wants a full playoff schedule, which is two more months.
Because a full playoff schedule best four out of seven

(58:08):
for four rounds is two more months if you get
to the NBA finals. So we're talking really almost Halloween.
We're talking four months between practice, full regular season and
the playoffs. So if you're starting in the it doesn't
add up. Okay, this is this is again where we

(58:30):
we have to get down to what is realistic as
far as an NBA season is concerned if if the
commissioners hell bent on having a full playoffs schedule. And
I can understand with some of the television contracts because
that's really what they're paying for. I understand that the
regular season is going to be gone all right, and

(58:52):
the idea of even playing games forget that. If you
look at the current NBA standings, Rich, where we stand
right now, there's a pretty clear cut off between the
eight seed. For instance, if you look right now in
the Western Conference, the Memphis Grizzlies are the eight seed,
the Portland Trailblazers are the nine seed. There's a three

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and a half game difference there. In the East, it's
even more clear. The eight seed is the Orlando Magic.
The ninth seed is the Washington Wizards. There's a five
and a half game difference. Remember their seventeen or eighteen
games left. Forget it. I mean, think about this, if
you were the Cleveland Cavaliers or the Golden State Warriors,

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or the Atlanta Hawks or the Minnesota Timberwolves, and Rich,
you know this if you're in a season because you've
been on some great teams and you were on some
bad teams. Even though you're out there and you're working
and everything else. You're checked out. Man, the season's over.
You've already checked out. You know. You're telling me, I
gotta fire things up, by the way, go through all

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this testing and everything else, and finish out a regular
season in which our season was already over. Does that
make any sense at all? No, it doesn't. And you're
you're forcing players and frankly, coaches to make bad decisions
in these circumstances. Look, the NBA already has an issue
with tanking. We're all well aware of it. If you

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want to see an absurd amount of disinterest from teams
who have no shot at a playoff birth, watch the
n b A if they try to host a regular
season during a pandemic. It's not going to work. You
need to just cut your losses as far as the
regular season goes, and whatever that means with these broadcasters

(01:00:37):
and these networks. And I don't know if that's even
a scuttle butt at this point. I imagine to a
certain extent it's been raised by some of these networks
affiliated with the NBA. But I'm sure there's a way
to figure this out moving forward. If you have a
playoff strategy that compresses the amount of time it normally takes,
so you don't have to quarantine these players and their

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families potentially for longer than necessary. But you can still
host a playoff. You can still have a team hoist
the Larry O'Brien at the end of this playoff. Well,
then you've successfully accomplished something that very few team sports
leagues have even been able to embark on during this
very dark time. I I really, I feel strongly about

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the leadership in the NBA. I know a lot of people, uh,
they cast stones at at silver and they say, as
a commissioner, he's a little two player accommodating, and he's
he's a little too bending to the side of the player,
and it's destroyed certain things in the league. But in
a in a crisis, the fact that he has been

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a great communicator with these players and and he's given them,
you know, the ability to express themselves, and he the
players inherently trust him because he's built that trust over
years and years. I think this is the first and
really potentially a league team sport that has been postponed,

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uh that that may be able to get a season
off because I don't see any any end in sight. Uh,
for the grievances in Major League Baseball, I really don't.
But for the n b A, I I remained pretty optimistic. Well,
I agree with you about baseball as well, because look,
if this is going to be a point that the
owners are trying to get and they're trying to achieve

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a cap, which is what they try to do, and
the player's reaction is we're gonna strike and to wipe
out the postseason. We don't care they try to do it.
In two thousand two, during Post nine eleven, there was
labor unrest and you had the world weeping over the
loss of American lives. Uh, certainly in this country, and

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the baseball players came together and said, it would be
so damaging to our relationship with the public if we
ever went on strike and acted against the ownership right now,
even though they want to impose attacks. So you know what,
the owners were able to get out of it. There
able to get the luxury attacks, which acts as a
soft cap. And so these owners in baseball, everybody is

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going to be upset that there's no baseball. But if
you look carefully at what the owners do when disaster
faces this country, they try to put the screws to
the players to try to install the salary cap, and
it's just leverage. It's just leverage based on public relations
standing and they're doing the same playbook they did post

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nine eleven. It's a it's unfortunate for the players because
you know you're you're in a situation where you're you're
trying to do what's best for the fan, but at
the same time protect your your livelihood. That the proposal
by the Major League owners is ridiculous, it's absurd, ridiculous.
Is it doesn't fly. I don't blame the players there
as far as the NBA is concerned. Forget the regular season,

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give me my refund on my game on March twelve.
Finally get that refund and do three weeks of practice,
and then you could have a full playoff schedule. By
the way, if you're playing all the games in a
single low game, you don't have to drag it out right.
You don't have any travel days. You're not gonna travel,
so it's not gonna take two months. You might be
able to get the whole four rounds in six weeks.

(01:04:10):
Uh So, I think that is going to be a
more likely scenario. But again, don't expect any announcement. They're
gonna they're gonna drag this as ay hell, hang onto
my money until the middle of June, and that's when
we get a definitive answer on the NBA. All right,
when the guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios. Let's find
out what's trending right now? Is David Gascon? Are you

(01:04:32):
watching any of the golf. I'm watching the golf right now. Unfortunately, Yeah,
I am watching the golf. Do you have an update? Yeah,
I'm watching it. Yeah, you're watching. I knew you would.
I knew you would. I have no idea who this
Matthew Wolf guy is. He's a twenty one year old.
I mean, he got three legends and then he got

(01:04:53):
this guy. It's from Semi Valley. All right, very good,
sleazy Valley, sleazy Valley. Look at you ending with an
awfully broad one political comment after another that's not political. Well,
I mean, you can damned a whole group of people.
I lived near seeing me very grew up in Agora Hills, California.

(01:05:14):
That's out here. Yeah, but look, Gascon, he probably has
a lot of opinions living somewhere. Your number one answer there.
It is good. That's good. A little struck well, well,
listen sometimes sometimes you can. You can thread the needle

(01:05:36):
from a mile away. Don't come down a whole group
of people just for one Dad album. Alright, but you
guys are mentioned the golf right now. They all had
part of their opening hole. So Rory mckelroy, Dustin Johnson,
Ricky fol and also Matthew Wolf. They're on whole number two.
You guys mentioned earlier than NASCAR Cup Series at Darlington's
the four hundred. Brad Keselowski has the poll right now,

(01:05:58):
so not racially an underway here. Shortly in the national
footballing a couple of items to report on Bill's defensive
tackle at Oliver rested today for drunk driving and also
charged with one kind of unlawfully carrying a weapon. It
was pulled over with a beer between his legs. That's
reports outbow in Houston, Texas UH Washington Redskins star Dexter

(01:06:19):
manly hospitalized sixty one years of age, guys batting pneumonia
and also the coronavirus. Temperatures right now between a hundred
and one and a hundred and four degrees. He was
admitted to a hospital just two days ago in the
Washington area. UH Giants quarterback DeAndre Baker released today on
a two hundred thousand dollar bond. If you do recall,
a rest warrant was issued in his name. And also
Quentin Dunbars just two days ago out in UH well

(01:06:42):
three days ago, excuse me, and on Thursdays. So while
that's seving from a reportedly a gambling dispute of seventy
thousand dollars. Uh. Meanwhile, guys in the college ranks, Florida
State returt sophomore Christian Meadows has medically been disqualified. Former
Arizona safety Scotty Young has transferred to West Virginia as
a graduate transfer. Guys, that's it. We need some we

(01:07:04):
need some ball, We need some we need basketball. We
need the Stanley Cup playoffs right now. We we need
the major team sports. And and then look at we're
gonna get it eventually. We'll get some. I guarantee we're
gonna get it eventually. But the logistics, and again when
we say logistics, it's not just about getting people out
there and competing. There are financial ramifications. We always say

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this it comes down to the money. Well what about
this though, races are going on Churchill Downs right now
is a race in and need to open up a
couple of days ago. Are you watching the ponies? I'm
looking at it right now? Is about in fact got
a Churchill Downs. Where's the social distancing? Forget that it's
out the window each other. Yeah, they're right next to
each other. There's got about a dozen horses out there.

(01:07:48):
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figuring out which way is easier. So we are now
about an hour away from the NASCAR race at Darlington.
By the way, Darlington is a challenging track and rich

(01:08:10):
they haven't been able to make any practice runs. They've
been in the simulator. I heard Jimmy Johnson talking about what,
so what can you get ready for racing on a
track through a simulator? And he goes, look, we do
simulators during the season anyway. But it's sort of like
that att a time, like if there's there's something about

(01:08:33):
the track that you know you maybe want to work on,
and you can't just actually get in your car and
do the practice run. You sort of you go to
the simulator and then you get back on the track
and practice to sort of find your spot and everything else. Right,
But the idea of going from the simulator with no
track time, even if you're familiar with the track, can
be a challenge. So it's gonna be very interesting to

(01:08:56):
see this race because none of these drivers have been
able to do practice laps none. Right. You know, if
you uh compare it to football, which was my forte,
this is like walkthroughs, And for the uninitiated, what it
walked through means is you're literally wearing T shirts and

(01:09:17):
shorts and you're getting in your offensive formations and there's
a defense on the other side and they're standing in
the places they're supposed to be. You know, whether there
are three four defense of four three defense and nickel defense,
you know something, whatever it is, and you walk through
at a walking pace the plays that you plan on running,

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so everybody's walking. Now you may think to yourself, well, jeez,
what do you get done? And you're accurate when you
think that, because really all it does is it reinforces
for the coaches that the players know what they're doing.
You know, there's no contact. This isn't football, You're basically
it's almost like if you looked at it from the sky,

(01:09:59):
it would look chess pieces moving on a chessboard. You know,
they're just all moving at once. And so this is
the same with Nascar. There's only one way to play football,
and that's at full speed, slamming into bodies and making
sure that everybody gets to where they're supposed to be going.
But if you dialed down the contact, you can still

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get mental repetitions done, but nothing, nothing will really fill
in for getting out there and feeling the rubber on
the road. We're getting out there and feeling the contact
alongside your other offensive lineman or the receivers and the
defensive backs and you know, getting a feel for how
the route concepts are going to develop for a quarterback

(01:10:41):
in real time. All of that stuff needs to happen
at full speed. So yeah, this is gonna be interesting Darlington,
especially considering the long layoff, UH could result in maybe
a little bit more fender bumping than we're used to.
I want to do a little detour here for a second. Here,
there was a story it came out yesterday, actually happened
a couple of days ago. Speaking of the NFL, the

(01:11:03):
passing of Phillis George. Um, I've reason i want to
mention this rich is. Certainly I'm old enough to remember
when the NFL today launched in nineteen seventy five. Understand this.
Before nineteen seventy five, Um, they didn't have shows like this.
In other words, there were games, obviously, but as an
actual like a pregame show. This was the first one

(01:11:27):
on a major network. Brent Musburger was the anchor. They
had earth Cross was a former NFL player, Jimmy the
Greek Snyder. This was so far ahead of town where
you had an absolute bookie going over the odds and
everything else. I mean, it's we're only now bringing it back.
But in the mid seventies and then he had Phyllis George,
and just four years before that, she was in her

(01:11:49):
ear mid twenties. She was Miss America, you know, beautiful
lady and everything else. But it seemed weird at the
time to have her on this NFL broadcast because, as
they're simply, weren't women in sportscasting none. Zero. It did
not exist. So at first, You're like, okay, well she's
a good looking woman. And I remember I was in

(01:12:10):
high school, so it's like, okay, I could look at her,
and you know, and and and and she was always
very professional. She did some inserting interviews. It wasn't hard
for her to get athletes to talk to her in
the NFL. I mean, you can remember interview she had
with you know, Joe Namath, Roger Staubach or whoever. They
were more than willing to do a little sit down

(01:12:31):
with Phillis George. But I'm thinking to myself at the
time that it just seemed like sort of this this tokenism,
like where are we going with this? I mean, I understand,
it's a TV show. You put her pretty face on there,
it might get some more eyeballs. No guy's gonna turn
away looking at Phillis George. But it became so much
more than that, you know, and rightfully so very trashed.

(01:12:54):
He was only seventy years of age, she had some
kind of blood disorder, way too young to pass away.
But she out is getting a lot more recognition for
being a pioneer for really breaking ground for females UH
sportscasters and and and rightfully so, because she got a
lot of criticism of the time, what is she doing

(01:13:15):
out there? Why is she on TV? I mean, if
I want to see a pretty face, you know, I'll
turn onto something else. So obviously no internet back in.
But you know, she held her own and and and
she did make an impact and it's she really. I mean,
if you are a woman in this industry, you do

(01:13:35):
need to pay homage to Phillis George because she took
a lot of heat. Believe me, I mean a lot
of heat for being nothing more than window dressing and unnecessary.
But if you go back and you can YouTube some
of these NFL Today pregame shows with Brand and Earth
and Jimmy the Greek, she held her own. She actually
had an absolute role on that show, and she did

(01:13:59):
a great job. Well. Uh, I I was not aware
of Phyllis George in an intimate way. I've heard the
name before. I I you know, and and by intimate
I mean like, you know, we welcome these broadcasters into
our homes. As a broadcaster now I realized that responsibility
as a former athlete and a player, I I understand

(01:14:22):
that responsibility that you know you are a part of
the daily life of a lot of people, and so um,
what she did with her life, her career choice and
the field that she decided to make her expertise as
a broadcaster, it's a much tougher road than me. I mean, look,
athletes had no place in a broadcast booth for a

(01:14:44):
long time. And then we obviously had a great former
players who paved that road for me today. And and
you know, I thank them for that work because I
think a lot of people, you know, I broadcasters themselves,
would have looked at a former athlete and say, you
can't do this, you don't have the chops. In the
same way, uh, the general public at a certain point,

(01:15:07):
not not just men, but women too, looked at women
in sports broadcast as if they didn't have a place.
And now it's commonplace, and now it's a great thing
that we have a mixture of voices bringing great content
to us uh in sports. And so Phillis George, even
though I didn't have a relationship with her, even I

(01:15:27):
even though I didn't listen to her broadcast, I understand
the import she had on this business I work, and
as a way paver and a trailblazer for many great
women who followed in her footsteps. Uh, honestly, I think
her because there are times when I know the insight
I'm receiving from a particular broadcast being spoken from a

(01:15:49):
different gender than my own, I'm not going to be
able to receive unless it's it's for great people like
Phillis George, So rest in peace, like you said, on
too early, Yeah, gone too early. But she made an impact,
and she was never intimidated, and she held her own
and did a great job. All Right, we're in the
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(01:16:11):
The Last Dance, actually the last episodes of the Last Dance.
What do we learn from this docuse series. We're gonna
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One of the reasons I like working with Rich so
much is that we come from a very different generation
and perspective is based on where you were at a
certain time. So as we relive the Last Dance, the
Bulls of the Nineties. Rich was born in n six
and I was born in ninett. So Rich, when you're

(01:16:55):
watching The Bulls of the Nineties, you were reliving literally
your childhood. Is I was in my first full decade
of the nineties with six nineties as we launched the
first all sports radio station on the West Coast. So
I was doing sports talk radio during this entire run
of Jordan's and their six championships during the nineties, and

(01:17:15):
you were a kid. So it's it's interesting the different
perspective on things. So I'm gonna ask you, because we
both watched every single episode so far and the final
two episodes of The Last Dance, what would you say
is your biggest takeaway from what you've seen so far
of The Last Dance? My biggest takeaway is the you

(01:17:38):
know what, honestly my biggest because I was about to
talk about, you know, Jordan and Pippen and the chemistry
between you know him and Rodman and philter actally. Yeah, look,
I'll spare you all that. Um, the same problems that
exist in the NBA today existed in the nineties, and
that is somewhat unexpected because you think about the nineties

(01:18:01):
as as the distant past now because Michael Jordan has
him played in decades and Lebron James is now his
heir apparent to the throne of the greatest of all time,
you know, and that's hotly debated, as we all know.
But I look at the issues that presented the nineties

(01:18:23):
Bulls and again when I watched the nineties Bulls, and
I grew up in New York a Bulls fan, which
was a difficult pill for my my father to swallow
because he was a Knicks fan. Through and through. These
were the pat Riley days, the Patrick Ewing days, the
John Starks. I mean that they had a squad man
and they could not get it done. Uh And and

(01:18:43):
the big reason for that is because the Bulls were
in the way in the east. And so I watched
these nineties Bulls and I was so completely infatuated with
Michael Jordan's Uh really, he is the reason why I
became so interested in sports. I played driveway basketball my
you thinking one day maybe I could be like Mike um.

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But but what what is the most overwhelming thing that
sticks out to me? Is there, you know, the the
disputes with contracts sometimes and the issues between players and fans,
and players and ownership and players amongst each other. Even
as the time goes on, the problems remain the same. Well,

(01:19:27):
I you know, here's the thing I I take away.
First of all, what I've seen, none of it surprises me.
I've only been reinforced which I already knew about. Michael
Jordan's with all his greatness and and again arguably the
one or two best player in the history of the NBA.
That that's not a question, and I love watching him
at the peak of his power, really a remarkable player.

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But this idea that he has used this vehicle as
an opportunity to get some final shots and on people.
It's one thing if it was just gonna be a
showcase of how great Michael Jordan was is and what
it was like to be Michael Jordan's and that that
part I've really enjoyed. I think they've done a pretty
good job putting you in the shoes of Michael Jordan's.
What was it like to be Michael Jordan in the

(01:20:10):
nineteen nineties, What was it like? I mean, when you're
the most famous athlete on the planet, one of the
most famous people in the world, especially after the Dream
Team in nineteen ninety two and being in that bubble.
I think they've done a pretty good job of what
that's about. Um, But as far as this, you know again,

(01:20:30):
you know, why why would you show Scottie Pippen sitting
on the bench in ninety four during the playoffs when
Jordan wasn't even there? And then and have Steve Kerry,
you know, saying why did you quit on it? Why
would you do that? Why? I don't was that necessary?
I thought it was a documentseries about Michael Jordan's So
I've enjoyed watching the NBA the nineties, which I personally
prefer to the style of play that we see right now.

(01:20:52):
I like the aggressiveness. I like that physical type of
play that we saw back in the nineteen nineties. And
by the way, tonight you're gonna see their Pacers series
unbelievable bottle wait you want to see m B A Wolf,
Reggie Miller, Michael Jordan cannot wait for it tonight. But overall,
I mean, it was a self serving docuseries but thoroughly entertaining.
That's the way I look at it. When the guy

(01:21:13):
goed Fox Sports Radio st what about the NFL all
systems go or are they will update to coming up next,
we got live sports going on, we got golf going on. NASCAR,
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(01:21:36):
per cent more on your car insurance physic guy dot
com for a free raid. Quote watching some of this
golf right now and again this is a basically a
four man skins competition. Normally skins or individual but they're
doing teams here, Roy mclroy, Dustin Johnson among the you
know yeah and this Wolf guy. Um, what's interesting to

(01:21:58):
me I'm watching some of this right now, is you
you sort of remember watching these guys out there without
a caddy what the caddy actually does. So when you
get ready for you know, you tee off and now
you're you're getting that shot to the green, your second shot,
and you can see them conferring and the these caddies,
I mean, I never underplay what caddies do. I know
what they do. I mean they literally know every inch

(01:22:20):
of these courses. That is their job. So now wontter
where you're standing. They can tell you exactly how far
you are to whatever spot you're trying to hit on
the green, and they give you everything from the wind
and everything else. You don't have that guy. So I
just saw Ricky Feller pull out, you know, like that
little telescope thing that they advertise for the you know,

(01:22:40):
Weekend Warriors, the range finder, the range finder. So he's
using the little range finder. He's about a hundred seventy
yards in the green to try to figure out exactly
where he's hitting the ball. So you know, they're and
they're carrying their own bags right now. So that part
of it sort of cool to watch. But anyway, the
bigger thing is more than three million dollars being a
raised for charities for the E D c For or

(01:23:01):
the Nurses Association with this charity event today, Richard, I
want to get to the NFL bad day yesterday for
the NFL. In less than twenty four hours, four NFL
players were taken into police custody. In less than twenty
four hours, four NFL act of players were taken into

(01:23:21):
police custody. Washington Wide receiver Cody Lattimer booked on charges
of assault in the second degree. Uh. We had both
Seahawks cornerback Quentin Dunbar, Giants corner DeAndre Baker. They turned
themselves in arrest warrants for two players using a semi
automatic fire weapon. A couple of robberies involved there, and

(01:23:45):
then last night defensive lineman at Oliver the Bills arrested
d w I unlawful possession of a weapon. All right,
you could just say, look, this is a very you know,
small sample, but you know, with virtual coaching and and
not really able to sort of corral everybody, boys will
be boys, so to speak. Um, is this a concern?

(01:24:08):
I mean I'm asking, I mean, four NFL players taken
into police custody in less than twenty four hours. Well,
you know, here is the issue. Uh. Well, you know what,
let me start by saying this. If you randomly and
I mean truly at random, collected two thousand people expanded

(01:24:30):
rosters being taken into account here, uh, and you ran
you know through what they've been up to lately, almost
any random smattering of our population in the United States
would have had more than four people involved in some
sort of illicit or a llegal activity where they had

(01:24:51):
to be the Dame by police. The reason why this
this becomes such a important discussion in the NFL is
because obviously these players are multimillionaires. Obviously, you know, in
certain cases, obviously these players represent a team and a
sports league. And so we make a very big deal

(01:25:13):
about this. And and I'm not saying I'm not trying
to underrate the issues here. You know, drinking and driving
is a huge issue in this country. It's a scourge
on our general population. Having an unregistered firearm is a
no no in every single state. Uh. You know, assaulting
anybody for any reason outside of self defense is unacceptable

(01:25:37):
in our society. And obviously robbing somebody, it's just there's
never room for it. But but you you're talking about
people who are famous acting badly, and it just gets
a lot more attention. Uh yeah, it's not boys will
be boys. It's an embarrassment on the league and the teams,
and obviously, with the media having so little to write

(01:25:57):
about as far as competition, this is gonna center stage.
And it's a problem for the NFL during a weekend
where they've created a lot of problems for themselves with
their proposal that will be voted on to pass on
minority coaching candidates and how to incentivize ownership to hire
more of them. Yeah, this is a subject that you

(01:26:18):
and I got a little bit heated about, and um,
I think we've pretty much drawn the line on this.
If you miss this what they there's a concern around
the NFL about minority hirings for head coaching jobs, any
kind of coaching job, general manager, front office positions. And
the proposal is to incentivise teams to hire minorities. It's

(01:26:39):
very simple. You can call it an incentive, you can
call it a bribery, but the bottom line is is
that you can improve your draft position or get compensatory
draft picks by hiring minorities. And the question is is
this a positive vehicle to right or wrong, which is
the lack of minorities at an opportunity to fill these positions,

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or are you creating a nightmare situation in the sense
that if you do hire a minority, why exactly did
you hire them? I mean, if they if you have
three candidates and forget their race, okay, and they all
basically have equal credentials, you sit down with three candidates,
two or white ones, a minority and they all have

(01:27:23):
pretty much equal credentials, uh as far as experience or
attitude or whatever. But you knew that if you chose
the minority, you're gonna improve your draft stock, and you
take that. I mean, it's not a right at wrong.
And my problem with this has always been putting whoever
you hire in an uncomfortable position. Did you get the

(01:27:44):
job because you were the most qualified, you were the
best candidate for the job, or did you only get
it because the team want to improve their draft position.
And unfortunately, when you put something out there like this immediately,
that's going to raise a flag, whether it whether it
mattered or not. I mean, you could sit there and saying, look,

(01:28:05):
Dad had nothing to do with it. We clearly felt
this person was the best candidate for the job. But
you understand what I'm saying, Rich, Now, all of a sudden,
you're putting it out there for people to say, well,
the only reason he got the job is that they
move up six slots in the third round. That's the
problem with this proposal. It's not that it's a problem

(01:28:25):
that it creates a perception that people can manipulate in
a lot of different ways. And and I've heard from
and in fact, uh you know, spoken with recently, um
you know, black players who opposed this, and I've listened
to uh you know, men of of different races and

(01:28:47):
ethnicities talk on this who are affiliated with football and
express how saddened they are that these are the lengths
that the NFL needs to go to in order to
indoctrinate uh more, uh more racial diversity into these positions
of power in the NFL. It's a it's a you

(01:29:08):
know what. And when you say we disagreed, I don't
think we did. I think and I've never used this
expression before, and I'll explain it, but I think we
we agreed loudly. I think this is such a hotly
debated issue, not only in sport but in our country
that when something happens like this, uh, it is very
difficult not to have strong emotional attachment to the debate.

(01:29:32):
And we actually are more on the same side than
you may even think. I agree with you that life
should be a meritocracy. If you're the best person, the
best candidate for a job, if you possess the skills
that an employer is seeking out, you should have the job.

(01:29:54):
Race should not be a factor, gender should not be
a factor. Your religion should not be a factor. But
as we as we know, we don't live in a
utopian society where it is a pure meritocracy and life
isn't fair, the unfortunate reality is fair. Is a tricky
conversation to have when you're talking about race. And you know,

(01:30:16):
much like we've in this country as a government, have
tried to repair some of the disc or the injustices
we've done to certain races, I mean Native Americans. Nobody
complains that Native Americans don't you know, if you have
ancestral Native American blood, don't have to pay for college tuitions.

(01:30:39):
Nobody complains about that, because it's a reparation for a
great deal of harm our early ancestors did to a
race of people. They were the first nation people, and
we completely decimated a race in the in the in
the colonial spirit. And so now today we have reservations
where these the these people of this race don't they

(01:31:01):
don't pay taxes, and nobody complains about that because it
is trying to right the wrongs of the past. And
in some ways, this situation that the NFL is trying
to confront with a clunky solution is very similar in
its spirit. There is unfortunate racism, systemic racism that exists

(01:31:22):
in the NFL. Even though the participating body of athletes
is se non white, you only have four head coaches
of of a different race than white. It doesn't make
any sense. And so again, an uncomfortable problem is met
with an uncomfortable solution, and everybody's up in Armsteve, But
I'm a fan of progress, even if it's clunky, even

(01:31:45):
if it's uncomfortable, even if it doesn't actually accomplish what
you're hoping it to accomplish, it opens the door for
more conversation and hopefully they propose a better solution to
this issue. Well, unfortunately, this is not a better solution,
and it's an overreaction to what I think is an
aberrational Let me, I'm gonna give you a quote from
Tony Dungee from three years ago. To me, the Rooney

(01:32:08):
rule is doing what it's supposed to do. The reason
he said that was at the start of the seventeen season.
Three years ago, there were eight minority head coaches. A
full one fourth of the NFL coaches in the NFL
were minorities. They were Marvin Lewis, Mike Tomlin, Jim Caldwell,

(01:32:29):
Hugh Jackson, Ron Rivera, Todd Bowles, Vance Joseph, and Anthony Lynn.
So at that point, which equaled the most minority coaches
at the start of the season in history. Everyone was
singing the praise three years ago about the Rooney Rule.
So what happened, Well, unfortunately, Vance Joseph lost way too

(01:32:53):
many games, so did Hugh Jackson, Todd Bowles was losing
too many games. So the guys that were unsuccessful, Like
any coach, if you don't win, you're given your walking papers,
and suddenly a couple of years later, we have not
filled minority vacancies with other minorities. This is similar to

(01:33:15):
what happened to the Academy Awards. They had two straight
years where every single actor there was zero minority or
African American actors or actress is nominated in the four
acting categories. That's twenty spots. Understand this as well, Those
spots are filled by actors. Actors nominate other actors for
their No, let me finish my thought here, I'm not

(01:33:36):
done yet. I'm not done yet. So my point is
is that that was an aberration. Since then, things have changed.
We talked about over compensating for what could be merely
an aberration. It's not that suddenly in one year, suddenly
all the owners decided not to hire minorities, because just

(01:33:59):
three years ago one fourth of the NFL coaches were minorities,
and everyone was singing the praise of the Rooney Rule,
including Tony Dungee too. Suddenly three years later, say it's
not working simply because we don't have eight minority head
coaches like we did at the start of the seventeen season.

(01:34:19):
And by the way, they weren't fired because they were minorities.
They were fired because they didn't get the job done.
Steve that look, I mean well said, and I understand
the standpoint you're coming from, but you're you're not understanding
what systemic racism is and the reason why more black
actresses and actors weren't nominated it's because studios don't back

(01:34:42):
black projects. See that's the problem you're missing here. This
isn't about the fact that there was a failure in
the Rooney Rule so much as there aren't enough owners
taking a close enough look at at candidates of color.
You know. So, yeah, you could say this system you

(01:35:02):
know is broken, and it's just you know, we all
have to accept it and understand that more qualified people
or or the the the movies that are available to
watch should be the ones that we we UH vote
in as best actor actress or or hire for coaching positions.
But it's not. It's not correcting the overwhelming problem that

(01:35:26):
we're still not, for whatever reason, in this country, availing
enough opportunity, you know. So that's that's what this tries
to fix. That's the problem here, that that that still
needs a solution. And again I don't agree with this solution.
I think it is a terrible way uh to try
to uh convince owners to to consider a person of

(01:35:53):
color for a general manager position or a head coach.
But I appreciate the attempt. I appreciate the opening the
door to the conversation. I don't like the solution. I
think it's a bad solution, but I appreciate the progress
and pushing the envelope and giving it a try. Even
a bad try is better than no try at all.

(01:36:14):
Do you think it wouldn't have a negative effect on
the opposing coaches that are trying to get that job
seeing people get the job, because that team is getting
a competitive edge, not because they were the best person
for the job. Harvard wanted to get more minorities, so
they made it easier. They were getting too many Asians
in Harvard. They didn't want Asians, they wanted African America.

(01:36:37):
I have never been a believer in the standards. I mean,
it's it's it's not it creates resentment. By the way,
By the way, do you have any idea about quotas?
And they don't always just apply to minority hirings. How
about the fact that because there were more qualified girls
as far as college admissions were concerned, in their effort

(01:37:02):
to bring more boys into college, they lowered their entrance
requirements to even it up. And you're kind of grow
to to here is just anything with scientists. They wanted
to get you know this, They lower standards, so you're
gonna get the idea of lowering standards. It just it
drips of racism. If if if if you're if you're

(01:37:24):
creating a quota or lowering as standard or whatever. Everyone
needs the idea of racism if race is the if
you are defining an action because of race, which is
exactly what the NFL is trying to do right now,
that's racism and ours. You're creating it. You're not solving it.
What you're doing is you're creating a racist inspired solution

(01:37:49):
to a racist project. And so the civil rights movement
was racist because trying to enforce uh, these these all
white schools to integrate, that was about there were Hey, listen,
that's that's a race based decision, you know, I mean
these these southern schools to endire Look you know, I mean, look,
we could go, we could chase our tails here. Not

(01:38:10):
I'm not allowed to coach. The diversity of of gender
and the diversity of opinion I think is important. And
so yeah, while it may seem to be racist, to
have a quota of different color or multi racial people
at the college or in coaching in football seems racist,

(01:38:33):
I think the worst. I think the bigger issue, and
the bigger issue you're trying to solve, is the systemic
attempt to unfortunately push people of color and different genders
away from certain aspects of normal life. And I just
don't agree that that coming up with the solution or
a proposed solution, this problem, as clunky as it is,

(01:38:54):
isn't a window of opportunity to discuss more and find
a better solution. Well, I agree with you. There is
a problem, yes, but there has to be the right
way to solve it and not to add fuel to
the fire, which I believe this proposal actually does, whether
it was intended or not. And I think there's been
so much pushback. I think they realized maybe this is
not the avenue to go. All right, I knew this

(01:39:16):
was going to happen. This is always what happens here.
We have strong opinions on the show. By the way,
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When The Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios, we'll get
back to the business of the NFL. So should we

(01:39:39):
be confident that we're going to get an NFL season
to kick off on time? We'll tell you. Coming up next,
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back for info and eligibility. I'm sure you're checking your
Twitter account as I am some pretty funny responses. Oh yeah,
Well look, you know this is obviously and again, even
as the decibel levels of the conversation rise, the problem

(01:40:24):
with all of this is we we see eye to
eye more than you think. So you know, you're you're
trying to prove that quotas and you know, taking some
sort of affirmative action to instill better hiring practices to
get more races represented in any field of business is
a broken solution to a bad problem. And you're not

(01:40:46):
going to be met with any disagreeance here. I really,
I mean, I completely agree that that's a bad solution
to a bad problem. And that's where this conversation started
in the NFL. And the fact that now there's a
propose to be voted on in the NFL to incentivized
teams with draft picks to hire minority candidates for head

(01:41:07):
coaching in general management positions. I think that is a
bad approach to an already ugly problem facing the NFL.
But what I am in favor of, and I've always
been in favor of, is instituting rule changes and giving
it a look, giving it a try, seeing if it
doesn't help the problem and if you can't move things

(01:41:29):
along in the correct direction. And so look, I'm not
saying all ends justify means, because I don't believe in
that either. But I do think that there is some
progress that you can make even with a bad rule.
And also sometimes bad rules can open the door to
better rules if you're willing to at least approach the problem,

(01:41:49):
which clearly the NFL realizes there's a problem since seventy
of the players aren't white, and the majority of head
coaches an overwhelming majority of the coaches in the league
and have been for a long time, have been white.
So well, one one rule change that needs to be done,
and a lot of people point out to Eric b Enemy,
the offensive coordinator the Super Bowl champion Chiefs, is the

(01:42:13):
idea that if you're under contract of one team, you
have to wait until your season is over to interview
for a job. Uh and this has shut out some
minority candidates over the years that have been part of
Super Bowl teams. As teams get impatient they're not going
to wait around until the Super Bowl is over to
do their hiring. UM. I I think that you should

(01:42:33):
be able to hire UH as soon as the regular
season is over. UH. Those that have existing positions with
the team should be able to complete those jobs through
the Super Bowl. I don't know why that's a problem,
and I think that's something they're exploring so that all
viable candidates at any point have an opportuity not just
for a head coaching job, but going from being a

(01:42:55):
position coach to a coordinator or front office position. Should
be allowed to have that kind of movement around the NFL.
All right, I want to get back to well, I
look at the clock right now, see what happens here.
We get all worked out, we we get wound, and
then all of a sudden, all right, we're in the
guy we want. I want to actually get to some
football talk, like you know, the start of the football season,

(01:43:16):
because people get a little antsy right now. We'll always
talk about Major League Baseball in the NBA, and we're
still waiting for a resolve of those sports. Are we
really gonna have an NFL season began the first week
of September, all right, we're in the guy go. Fox
Sports Radio studios will answer that on the other side.
But let's find out what's trending right now. David Gascon,
who he always enjoys when things get a little heated

(01:43:38):
around here, I know that I, uh, it takes solace
and none and I'm not shooting from the hips coming
up and uh, you guys fire away. Yeah. Well, I
know some people get upset. I mean, I've had people responds,
you know, when you guys arguments like mom and dad. Dude,
it's a really upsets me. I don't want to get anybody,
you know, you know, and I'm like, please not mom

(01:44:01):
and dad. A lot of people that like to comment
and listen. Second. Yeah, and I'd like to thank at
Gavin Newsom for taking on some of the brunt of
my mean tweets. People are tweeting at him instead of means.
All right, very very good for yelling at you guys.
NASCAR Cup Series in Darlington four hundred's gonna get underway

(01:44:23):
here shortly. It's on Fox today. Brian brad Kaslowski has
the poll on this thing. Yeah, you guys were mentioned earlier.
The Taylor Made driving relief going on right now for charity,
Rory mcilwright, Dustin Johnson, Ricky Feller, and also Matthew wool
for all golf. Right now, they're on whole number six.
As you speak to Steve, you have any interest in
that at all out of the shorts, you mean as

(01:44:44):
far as the golf is concerned. Yeah, First of all,
I love the fact that they're wearing shorts. As you know,
on the PGA Tour, you're not allowed to wear shorts
on very hot days. The caddies can wear shorts, but
the golfers are not. So No, I think it's it's
you know, it's a beautiful day there in Florida where
the shorts played a little casual golf. That's this is
what they were basically watching what these guys do, almost

(01:45:07):
in a practice round. Now there's something at Steakecare obviously
because they're earning money for charity, but this is pretty
much how these guys play normally. This is a good thing.
This is relatable. These guys are carrying their own bags,
they're dressed like us, they're talking like us. If you
hear some of the commentary between these two or these four,
I I think this is a good look for golf,

(01:45:27):
which is usually stodgy and unrelatable. This is a lot
more relatable. Lets do you think these guys should be
wearing masks? Well here, you know, you mentioned that Steve
Sands for the Golf Network, Uh, was doing an interview
with Dustin Johnson and he was standing right next to him.
I mean, there was no distance. You've seen some of

(01:45:49):
these reporters with a long you know, microphone poll you
know that type of thing. No, he just you know,
this was we were talking about this with Joe Rogan
in the UFC getting into the octagon and just standing
there doing a normal interview with Sands is doing the
same thing on the course with these golfers, no mask,
got the microphone, standing there, just talking to him like
he would have any other time. And look, you know,

(01:46:09):
I mean, I don't know if he's been tests or
if these guys have been tested. But if they've all
been tested and they feel comfortable doing that, more power
to them. Or if just Steve Sands have been tested
in all these golfers, or he's I guess, willing to
talk to all these golfers in close proximity, taking the
risk of potentially getting it from one of them the
COVID nineteen. Well then fine, that's that's him acting on

(01:46:32):
his own volition. And you know, in in this circumstance,
I'm I'm completely a fan of people taking whatever risks
they want because they're away from the general public. As
Rich says that from his yachts on the Pacific Ocean
like a closet and my heart San Diego a little

(01:46:52):
bit different. Um, guys, real quick to National Football League
Giants quarterback DeAndre Baker released on a two our bond.
The Giants have told them to stay away from all
team meetings and focus on his legal issues at this time.
Bills defensive tackle at Oliver rested this morning for drunk
driving in Houston, Texas Redskins Dexter Manley hospitalize and and

(01:47:13):
receiving oxygen to treat breathing issues related to the coronavirus.
He's sixty one years of age and contracted it on
me the second he goes all battling the case of
the pneumonia as well. So h thoughts with him. Back
to you guys, all right, thank you David. Once again,
we're coming alive and the guy go. Fox Sports Radio Studios.
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(01:47:33):
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drivers are on the track right now, we're getting ready
for the reopening of the NASCAR season in Darlington. You
can see that the drivers are wearing masks as they
are being interviewed right now near their cars. This might

(01:47:54):
have been taped a little bit earlier. But we're gonna
get some NASCAR action here very very shortly. All r
Rich getting back to the NFL right now, as uh
you know, you know, you you got through free agency,
you got through the draft. They were big hits. Uh
no O t A s, no mini camps right now
they've laid out of schedule. They want to play in

(01:48:15):
their home stadiums. Logistically that may be a problem. We
know the contingency plans have been made behind the scenes,
especially for the state of California. It's pretty clear that
it may not happen for the Rams, the Chargers, and
the forty Niners that they will be allowed to actually
use their home stadiums to play the games. But the NFL,

(01:48:36):
I'm sure it's got all their bases cover right now. UH.
And we also talked about the idea and we've got
some backup on this during the week. We were throwing
it out last week and we interviewed some people during
the week Rich about this whole idea of uh charging
more money if the NFL does not allow fans in

(01:48:57):
the seats and lose the revenue there, whether we may
go to some form of pay per view for all
NFL games, especially if they're investing in the crowd noise
and virtual crowds at least create the illusion if you're
sitting at home watching an NFL game, that these games
are being played in full stadiums and everything else, and

(01:49:18):
there's there. We we talked a few business people this
week Rich in fact, in fact, Katino Mobile and I
had a business guy on yesterday that agree that it's
not out of the realm of possibility. And we're not
talking about gouging anybody. But you know, the NFL is
a pretty valuable property, and if they turn around through
the networks to come up with some you know, a

(01:49:39):
little added roof, because we are going to put on
the games that you want so desperately out their NFL
fans that that might actually happen. Yeah, Well, let me
give you what I'm forecasting to be the future of
the NFL, because they've already created all the platforms to
do this, and they're going to be multiple opportunities for
them to continue to expand on this empire. Uh. My belief,

(01:50:04):
my firm belief is at some point in the near future,
and near future could mean the next five years, the
next ten years, potentially over the next two decades, but
at some point soon relatively speaking, you're gonna have the
NFL completely pull their games from all the networks. They
are going to be the one stop shop for everything

(01:50:28):
NFL content, which means that if you want to enjoy
these games in any meaningful way, you're going to have
to stream them directly from the NFL. You're gonna have
to download their app, you're gonna have to buy their
channel if they even avail it to customary cable networks.

(01:50:49):
You're going to have to completely embed yourself in their universe,
and then they'll have the full control of what the
rebroadcasting of their highlight clips. So a lot of these
shows on networks that completely depend on the NFL to
keep their highlights, segments and packages in the local news

(01:51:10):
for that matter as well. To keep those segments afloat
the NFL could say, yeah, well we're gonna You're gonna
pay exorbitant amounts of money in order to do that.
Otherwise people are just gonna have to come to our
platforms to enjoy that content. And the subscription based industry
has worked. We've seen this with Netflix. Netflix has completely

(01:51:31):
taken over. Disney Plus is following this model. ESPN in
a lot of ways, is going to streaming, you know,
so as I think Fox is doing it with boxing especially.
You know, you stream these pay per view fights on
Fox pay per view. So there's all these platforms available,
and the NFL has built that infrastructure all the while

(01:51:51):
being the top revenue generating sport in our country. You know,
whether or not you want this, the day will come
where if you want to watch the NFL in any
sort of capacity, you're gonna have to pay a streaming fee,
or you're gonna have to pay an introductory fee and
a continued monthly allotment in order to see it. I

(01:52:12):
don't think anyone's gonna have a problem. Again, we were
talking yesterday Gavin Gavin of course interested in all NFL games,
any NFL game because it's a reason to get to
So you were suggesting like twenty dollars, So my thought
was twenty to thirty for the entire weekend of of games. Alright,
so one weekend of games. What do you think, rich?

(01:52:34):
One weekend of games and you have access to all
the games a week. See here, it's it's a lot
of money, it is, and a lot of people are
out of work. Well, I'm glad you mentioned that because
last night on on TV we we did a story
about rising prices in grocery stores up sixteen percent. So

(01:53:01):
hold on a second. Are so we have all these
people out of work, all these people that are trying
to figure out just how to feed their families, and
you're raising the prices. Capitalism, baby, when there's a high
demand and the supply is needed. Uh, you really do
paint a business in a free enterprise into a position

(01:53:24):
where they can make money hand over fist. Now, look,
here's the problem and the risk that you face when
you do this. You know, in these great times of need,
if you all of a sudden put a pinch on people, um,
maybe they find a different way to do their shopping
in the future. So some of these grocery stores that
are gouging their customer base, maybe these customers are now

(01:53:47):
trying to find direct from farm to table avenues to
purchase their groceries. I certainly know in my household that's
what we're doing. This pandemic has sort of crystallized my
attention that small farms, uh, community farms that helped supply
these grocery stores. Uh, you know, they need our help directly,

(01:54:09):
and so we're we're making every effort to sort of
move our business in that direction. And so look, I
I I understand, I understand when supply meets demand. Yet
you have a successful equation economically, but from a public
relations standpoint, what are you doing to damage your reputation? Now?
The NFL, I don't think they necessarily go to this

(01:54:32):
model during a pandemic. Like I said, I think this
is more of a future model that they're preparing to launch.
I don't think they're completely there as far as infrastructure goes,
and I do think that they're gonna resign huge mega
contracts that are going to spend at least the next
eight to ten years with these networks well, remember that
and again the current TV contracts and next year. I mean,

(01:54:52):
this is why it was so uh important to get
the Collective Bargaining Agreement in place, which they did and
that's still controversial, but anyway, that's in place because next
hip is these TV contracts, and especially what happens in
there's no question it's gonna have a big bearing on
their negotiations for those next round of contracts. And as

(01:55:13):
you say, maybe a whole different way the NFL goes
about televising games broadcasting their games. A lot could come
out of what happens here in By the way, I
love what I see in NASCAR right now. I don't
know if you're watching this with me right now, but
it's it's. First of all, they had the national anthem,
Darius Rutgers saying, but he wasn't there. He was in

(01:55:35):
some studio obviously they like a green screen behind him
with the flag and everything else, and he was singing.
Everybody wearing their mask, everybody. But you see a lot
of it was in social distancing on the grounds. I mean,
you've got these pit crews now, they're limited on the
number of people they can have there, and everyone's been tested,
but I mean, you can't be six ft apart obviously,

(01:55:56):
but every single one of them had their masks. It
was interesting just watching the mask skull. So some guys
have really elaborate masks and some just have the standard,
you know, blue mask like you just get in a hospital. Interesting,
they didn't seem to have any uniform look to their mask.
Now they're in the cars right now, so uh, coming up,
but we're in the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
We have the NASCAR season back on track literally, uh

(01:56:21):
and no fans in the stands. We keep talking about
no fans at the Gulf, no fans for Nascar, no
fans period. How is that actually gonna work? And how
does that affect the restart of the sports calendar. We're
gonna tell you. Coming up next Steve Harman and Rich

(01:56:41):
Harmburger coming alive from the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
So they're doing the pace lap right now, getting ready
for the start of the race and Darlington. I had
the great privilege Rich uh, in back to back years
of my dear friend Chris Myers, when we were doing
the National show here on Fox of covering the Daytona
five and when you go to Daytona. It's quite an experience.

(01:57:08):
But it's not just about the drivers. It's really the
fan experience. And you see that huge parking lot RVs
side by side. It literally becomes a city within a
whole complex. People like live there for like a month,
I mean through the qualifying and everything else. They basically

(01:57:28):
parked there and they live it. Um. And obviously right
now that's gone. You know, I've always been sort of
one and part of it is just sort of the
viewpoint of being a member of the media. It's sort
of is It's not the same for me. I mean,
I enjoy going to games with my children and doing
stuff like that, but it doesn't have quite the pizzas.

(01:57:50):
But I know a lot of our listeners out there
rich are like they live and breathe this. I mean,
whether you're going to a football game or a baseball
whatever the sporting event it is, um, it becomes part
of their lifestyle. And I am reminding, especially with NASCAR,
I mean, these people are I mean, this is it, uh,
and that's being taken away. So you know when we

(01:58:12):
say for most of us, we sit down, we watch
it on TV, it's no big deal. If we don't
have fans, But what what is your answer to those
fans that do go to games that that is part
of who they are, is being part of that fan experience.
What are you telling them right now? Well, if I'm
a commissioner of a sports league or if I'm in

(01:58:35):
charge of you know, giving straight answers to fans, my
answer is, UH, work with us, We'll be back. Give
us time to figure out a solution to these issues.
Give us time to uh to circle the wagons a
little bit metaphorically speaking, and figure out exactly what the

(01:58:57):
safest way to proceed is, what is even going to
be legally allowed in the coming months or the coming years.
But we are going to find a way to get
back to what makes this sport great. Look NASCAR, like
you just mentioned, as a television watching sport was something
that I've never been interested in, But I've always been

(01:59:18):
interested in attending an event, and I'm hoping on the
other side of this pandemic those events aren't changed so
irreparably that I'll never fully get to enjoy that experience.
I do understand that they may be and I do
understand that maybe things will change the way they did
post nine eleven. Look, we used to get onto planes
without you know, having to take our shoes off. We

(01:59:40):
used to have to we we used to get on
planes without having to worry about somebody waving a wand
on us, or stepping through a metal detector, or getting
in a body scanner, or putting our bags through some
sort of you know, conveyor belt. But we've gotten used
to that new normal. Is it better? Is it safer?
It's arguable there have been many statistics that I have

(02:00:01):
shown that you know, the T s A isn't particularly effective.
Uh So, in the new normal that appears after the pandemic,
will large gatherings and events take place as they did
in the past. I certainly hope. So, I certainly hope
that we can do that, that we can see to
doing that. And what I would tell NASCAR fans or
any fans who are interested in coming back to large

(02:00:23):
gathering experiences bear with us. We're gonna provide you content
to hold you over in the meantime as best we can,
and we will all get together real soon. Well. And
again we get back to what we talked about earlier.
Risk Um, some people will not risk it, uh and
others will. I mean, if you if you were to
go to and let's just use an NBA game, all right,

(02:00:45):
and you go to in l A. It'll go to
Stapleson right to see the Lakers and Clippers, and you're
in eighteen thousand people all packed together, and maybe everyone's
wearing a mask, and and maybe you know, you have
to have a little hole in your mask to sip
your beer through a straw, or maybe you can only
take your mask off for a second to actually get

(02:01:05):
a bite, and then you have to put your mass
back on. But then even a hot dog hole, yeah,
I mean a hot dog hole. I mean, there's gonna
have to They're gonna have to figure this whole thing out.
But if it still, even if they're you still don't know,
You still don't know. If you're just happy to be
sitting next to that person who may not be showing
any symptoms yet. Maybe they took a temperature check and

(02:01:28):
they were cleared, but they're carrying COVID nineteen and you
might say, hello, hey, isn't this crazy? And boom you
get it? Are you willing to take that risk? I well,
we'll see again, this is the whole thing we're finding
out with businesses opening in the States are opening up.
People aren't flocking to these businesses. You know, everyone started
taking the little baby steps to see is it okay?

(02:01:51):
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I am watching right now live golf, live, NASCAR, live

(02:02:50):
horse racing from Churchill Downs doing live. I'm what is
the last gown? When's the last time that we had
live sports on every TV here in the Fox. You
think that would be early March, early March. I would
think around March nine. Now we're cheating a little bit
because we have four screens here and way of golf

(02:03:11):
on two, so we're cheating a little bit, but I
mean rich. But the fact is it has been two
months since I've been actually looking at multiple live sporting
events simultaneously while doing this show. Yeah, this is uh,
like you said, it's a unique situation and one that
I don't think I I would have ever forecasted. We'd

(02:03:33):
be faced with this idea that sports, which is omnipresent
in our society these days, you can't escape sport on
a normal occurrence. Uh is something so hard to find,
so difficult to discover in a live fashion that whenever
there are multiple events going on at the same times,

(02:03:53):
we feel like we're being spoiled. Today we're being spoiled.
We have NASCAR, like you mentioned, we have the uh
this this charity golf event going on with some of
the top pros, and uh, I'm sure somewhere cornhole is
being played in the ponies are racist. So we have
a lot of different a lot of different ways to
entertain ourselves in sport. And you know, I I've I

(02:04:15):
just started, like I don't even know if it's I
guess I should say I started writing an article at
this show break. I I just started. I mean, like,
I I feel so impassioned by what's going on right now.
I wanted to get words out on paper, and the
words that I'm writing right now, are about the essential

(02:04:37):
roles sports play in our our country and our world.
Like if you think about it, like I understand, like
we're in the toy store on a normal basis, Like
this isn't real life. You know, we're talking about whether
or not Lebron should have dished it or if he
should have taken the shot at the end of the game.
You know, we're talking about maybe a player who had

(02:04:58):
an opportunity to win the Masters chokes down the stretch
of a tournament. You know, we're talking about you know,
a race crash where nobody was harmed, Uh, but there
was a big fight on the track afterwards that stole
some headlines. Like we're not talking about necessarily important things
to the lives of everyday individuals. But without sport, you know, Steve,

(02:05:20):
and you've made a career around sport. Without sport, life
is more difficult to live. That sounds like a pretty
heavy statement. But sports play an essential role in our country,
I really do. I mean, they bring hope, they create community. Uh,

(02:05:40):
they make you feel better when you're down. Uh, they
give you a sense of of belonging. I mean, I
remember growing up in New York during nine eleven, how
scary everything felt. And I was a sophomore in high school.
I thought we were going I didn't think we were
gonna survive. I remember climbing to the tent story of

(02:06:03):
the hospital that was across the street from our our
high school, after the lockdown was lifted, and I peered
out through a window in the stairwell and Manhattan, Manhattan
Island was covered in smoke, and I remember feeling afraid
for my life, afraid from my family's life, my grandfather,
who we moved into his home when I was eight
years old. You know now I'm a teenager. I got

(02:06:24):
home from school. We hadn't heard from him. We didn't
see him until ten o'clock at night. He walked twenty
miles through three boroughs of New York covered in ash.
He actually traversed the Brooklyn Bridge on foot that day
to escape the city, like many New Yorkers had to
that day. And when he came home, he gave me
a kiss on the forehead, went up to bed to

(02:06:45):
go to sleep because he was exhausted. And I cried
tears of joy on a day of great grief. The
only thing that felt normal to me during that time
was going to football practice, and I remember feeling so
privileged to have that time where I could shut off
everything that was happening outside. Everything that was happening inside

(02:07:08):
my household felt different. Everything that was happening inside my
school hallways felt different. Kids were absent for weeks on
end grieving significant losses, family members who died in those
towers when they fell that day, and sport created a sanctity,
a sanctuary for me that I'll never forget. And that's

(02:07:32):
what's missing. We don't really have that sanctuary that sports
afford us right now. And I'm so thrilled that some
of these leagues, while they may be taking some risks,
are starting to get are starting to get underway because
it's going to help heal this awful situation that has

(02:07:52):
affected us all so greatly. I agree with you. I mean,
it's the only way we're going to get to any
semblance of normalcy is to start the process of trying
to getting back to assembulis of normalcy. And and this
is sports will always plays a big part in this.
There's no question it's a great healer in this country.
It always has been. It brings people together. Um, so

(02:08:13):
you know, baby steps. Again, it's weird to watch this golf.
They're doing a lot of aerial shots of this beautiful
course down there in Florida, and there's no people on
the course. The only people on the course of the
guys playing golf and a couple of camera guys, you know,
looking around cameras taking shots at these guys on the course.
No fans on the course. Again, we're the NASCAR race
is underway right now. The stands are empty, but the

(02:08:35):
cars going around here. Here's the thing that the interesting,
the perspective of the players, because you hear this all
the time from athletes. They say, well do you do
you know the crowd is there, and you know when
you talk about the build up the national anthem and
the crowds going crazy. Yeah, I mean you feel like
everybody else. But once you're actually playing, uh, you're just
focused on what you're doing out there. I mean, these

(02:08:57):
guys in the car saying, look, I'm not looking at
the crowd when I'm circling the track at two hundred
most an hour. Uh, you know, I'm focused on the track.
I'm focused on the cars around me. Same thing with golfers.
I mean, what it was what it was amaze, aren't
we We sit there because we know that if anybody's
watching us play man, we get a little nervous. And
these guys, you know, they they're they're at these tournaments

(02:09:19):
and especially these majors, and the crowds are deep, and
you know, you're standing over that four foot or that
you need to make. You're like, how can you keep
your hands steady? But they used to it. They tune
that out and they're just focused on what they have
to do out on the golf course. And this is
two of our all sports. You know, when you're you're
not thinking about the crowd when you're standing there, you know,

(02:09:39):
two out in the bottom of the ninth inning, entire
game and you have a chance to win the game,
you just focus on that next pitch. I'm I'm so
jealous right now, Rory McElroy, of Fowler, of Wolf, of Johnson.
These guys, these golfers who while it's just the four
of them playing, and you know, you talked about what
eyes maybe upon them. Right now, people are so starved

(02:10:01):
for sports content. Maybe they are forced to watch golf
where they know wouldn't normally, or they have a fringe
interesting golf. So they're jumping on the bandwagon watching this broadcast.
But what what a great fortune it is to be
able to again, like I was talking about, fine sanctuary
on golf course, doing something that feels normal with people,
uh surrounding you, you know, And again it's different. I'm

(02:10:24):
not saying it's the same as having the galleries out
there and you know, having the normal chatter as you're
making your way to the green on the fairway and
you know, all the things that are sort of normal
place at a golf tournament. But at least they get
to perform this and and in some ways, you know,
I was just watching it, you know, I'm live street.
I'm I'm in a closet studio here in San Diego,

(02:10:46):
but I'm live streaming on my computer. And there are
moments where you forget you're watching anything different from what
you would normally watch during a golf tournament, because as
there's a hush over this small group of people and
one of these athletes are teeing off, you just you're transfixed.
You're not you're not thinking about the gallery. You're thinking about, Oh,
I wonder if he's gonna stripe the fairway here? If

(02:11:06):
he's gonna get in trouble on it, you know, and
that's kind of fun. Now. I mean, I'm enjoying watching
the golf right now. Again, they're carrying their own bags
and you know, their distance mechanisms to try to figure
out where they are because they don't have a caddy
to tell them. They're all in shorts right now and
they're just enjoying it, just enjoying playing golf. And you know,

(02:11:26):
Ricky Fowler said before this, I mean, look, I I
just missed competing, man. I you know, it's it's they're
all for charity and all this kind of great stuff,
raising money for the Nurses Association CDC and all this.
But these guys just want to compete, man, I mean,
they just they want to get out there and the
competitive juices this is what drives these guys. Once you've reached,

(02:11:47):
especially at an elite level like these guys, with the
exception of this young Matthew guy. Um, you know, the
money is is incidental at this point. Uh. This is
about winning championships, This is about adding trophies, This is
about building your legacy. You know, Mono, mono, you know,
I want to beat this person. So that's what they're
enjoying today, getting out there. Uh, back out on the course,

(02:12:10):
all right, when the guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
So really it's been interesting for us over these last
couple of months because when this whole thing started, we
were sort of like one, we were surprised when we
were deemed essential, you know, when a lot of people
were furlough laid off, fire, whatever, and it's like, so

(02:12:32):
we're sports talk radio hosts and there's no sports and
we're deemed essential. How did that work out? Well, we're
gonna tell you what has shocked us most about these
couple of months. Coming up next Steve Harbin and Richard Arnburger.
John Paul Morossi is gonna be joining us later in
the hour as we get an update on Major League

(02:12:52):
Baseball the impass, plus that sixties seven page protocol reports,
so to speak, on how Major League Baseball wants the
games to be played, if and when the games actually begin.
We're coming a life from the guy go Fox Sports
Radio Studios. You know, the the the same absence makes

(02:13:13):
the heart grow fonder, and you know, we we started
this off right off the bat with the cancelation of
March madness, and I remember it just seems surreal, especially
for Rich and I being based in San Diego, because
it just so happened. San Diego State had a dream season, uh,

(02:13:36):
and they were in the top ten all year long,
and they were definitely a team that could could have
won a national championship for the first time ever. So
it was almost like we even more engaged the normal
in the college basketball season because of our proximity. Uh.
And then on top of that, being a u c
l A guy, you know, U c l A suddenly
got hot at the end of the year, one of

(02:13:56):
the hottest teams in the country was looking forward the
Pack twelve tournament when a couple of gains, maybe they
can make some noise in the n C tournament, and
just like that, it was gone. I mean, it just
didn't happen for the first time ever, and it just
shook you to the core. I mean, at least it
did us because of where we were and what was

(02:14:16):
possibly a stake in our relationship with people that were
directly affected by the cancelation that tournament. And then the
next thing, you know, the Masters postponed um and we
get the cancelation of postponement. And we've been just going
through this process over the last two months, which literally
seems like years, not just two months. I mean seriously,
I mean it's it's crazy, but it's also a reminder again,

(02:14:41):
well he started to do that reset on exactly what
it is that sports means in your life. Um, maybe
you're a little afraid of how much you need it.
Sometimes that can be a little bit scary. UM, but
I think that does give us a little perspective. Um,
the fact is, there are other things in life when

(02:15:02):
you're taking care of your family. I've had the unique
opportunity for me personally, uh, and this has been this
has been something different from me over the least last
couple of months. You know, I got divorced, I moved
out of the house seven years ago. UM. I see
my kids every weekend briefly as I come in and
out of from San Diego to l A and do

(02:15:23):
my l A work on the weekends. But to have
these two months where I'm seeing them every single day, good,
bad and ugly, UM, has been invaluable to me. Has
given me maybe a little more confidence on where they are,
you know, as a father, and all my kids are
in college right now. Um, and I feel good about it.

(02:15:44):
I feel as I get ready to return to San
Diego and getting back to essentially my my normal life
these days. Um that I feel like it was time
well spent where I where I was able to sort
of take a step back from just this constant stream
of sport words that basically we get on that treadmill
throughout our year and take a look back and start

(02:16:05):
looking around like what else is going on? And I'm
happy I did. I really did, and and and and
I feel good about where my kids are right now.
I feel good about my relationship with Denise, my ex wife.
Um So, I feel good as I returned to San Diego.
I actually feel better. I I needed this. I mean,
it's amazing to say that, but for me personally, this

(02:16:27):
was a huge bonus that I certainly didn't expect when
this whole thing started. Yeah, I think the words you
just spoke are shared by a lot of people. Look there,
there are no doubt some people that have been brutally
affected by this virus, whether they've become ill, or family

(02:16:48):
member has become ill, or they lost someone close to
them that they loved, or they lost a business that
they worked hard to start, or a job that they
worked hard to uh to uh be hired to. You know,
this is a trying time for many Americans. But I
think alongside of that, there are a lot of people
who have had sort of a redistillation of their values,

(02:17:12):
if there is such a word, you know, this idea
that you know, when when you sort of subtract noise
from your picture and from your your your life, you
can concentrate more. Uh, I should say you should you
concentrate less on some of the things that distract you
from your values, and you start putting more emphasis on

(02:17:37):
your values and and the things that are important to you, Steve,
and that you just talked about are important to a
lot of people listening to us today. Your family, Uh,
you know the direction your children are heading, and you
know your closeness with with people who you raise your
kids with, whether it's your your wife or even grandparents
as caretakers or whatever your situation. You maybe, and so

(02:18:01):
I agree with you, and I felt something very similar,
you know, I I I don't know if I've ever
been closer to my with my wife. You know, like
there's there's this and it's not all positive don't get
me wrong, Like we've had our battles, you know, when
you're in lockdown and you know, you can't even go
to the beach or to the parks and things like that.
Things get rough sometimes on the home front. But as uh,

(02:18:25):
you know, as we continue to head down this path,
I'm learning a lot more about myself as a father
and a husband and uh you know, and a and
a friend and a partner with my wife that I
didn't know prior to all this happening. And so you know, yeah,
there's been a great awakening in this country, and you
know from that standpoint, and so yeah, I appreciate you

(02:18:47):
sharing it because I think a lot of people feel
that way, you know. And and then alongside of it,
what I've learned about sports in general is well, there's
absolutely no questioning that is, especially our role in sports media.
Sports become all consuming and can take a lot of
your attention away from the things maybe you value even

(02:19:08):
more than sport. There there is something valuable about sport.
And so I do feel like a part of my
life is missing right now as a result of not
having live sports available to me. And and I didn't
realize how impactful you know, all sports, not just you know,

(02:19:29):
the ones that I specifically concentrate on, but all sports
happening around me. How valuable that is to me. But
it it has extreme value to my life. And so
I think there's this a race to get back to
normal as you know, all these leagues you know, for
a short time or continue to abandon their gameplay. I
I I completely understand the race to get back to

(02:19:53):
the field because it's important. It really is important. You know.
It's interesting also as I'm watching know, the golf right
now with no fans, and NASCAR with no fans, and
horse racing and no fans. The one thing I take away,
like even watching the Last Dance or any of these
retro games that we are, you know, flipping on every

(02:20:15):
once in a while, is the crowds and the fans.
You know. I was watching, Uh what was I watching?
It was crazy. It was a nineteen eighty Georgia Florida
football game, herschel Walker's freshman year at Georgia. Chris Collinsworth
was on the Florida team, right. I mean, there's a
long time ago, but it just so happened. I was

(02:20:36):
in college at the time, my last year of college.
So I remember these days, and you know, they do
the cutaways of the crowd and you see those fans
and they're just going nuts. That's That's the one thing
though that just hits me every time I see these
Now it seems like we never really, I mean, just
that's normal, right, fans going crazy and stadium wherever. Uh.

(02:20:58):
And usually we comment while I look at the empty suits,
you know. I mean, I just I hope we can
get back there. I mean, I hope that it's not
If it doesn't happen in twenty we're gonna see it
in twenty one. I mean. It's interesting because everything we
we talk about, you know, we signed new contracts and
all this kind of stuff and and and but are

(02:21:21):
we are we ever going to see that again? Are
we gonna be sitting there with mask on social distancing?
You know? Are we are we ever gonna be able
to sit in a be in a bar scene? I mean,
I I I was thinking about this. You saw Lebron James,
President Obama some other people talking to these grads of right,

(02:21:43):
and they were they were trying to paint a pretty
picture for Generation Z, which is my kids Generation UM.
And obviously I want to be as optimistic as possible,
but there's some stark realities of what this is going
to be, at least in the media future, if not
for years to come. Uh. And it is disheartening, really is,

(02:22:05):
because there are certain things that I've experienced in my
lifetime that certainly I hope that my children and then
I look at your small boys and what they're going
to see in the next ten to fifteen years, I
hope that we get back to what you and I've
enjoyed in life, and not a world that's so drastically
different than when they look back saying gee, I wish

(02:22:28):
I had been around when you were around. I hate
to have that kind of response from our children. Let
me let me lend you some solace. And you know,
it sounds very bizarre saying that to somebody who you know, uh,
you know, laps my age here, but you know, coming
from the standpoint of of a high schooler who you know,

(02:22:50):
I like I I just mentioned in our last segment,
who grew up in New York when the towers came down.
I'm sure there were times where my parents felt the
same way, you know, where where they thought about their
upbringing in their life and what they experienced as kids.
And you know, they only hope for the best for

(02:23:12):
for me and uh and my siblings, and they wonder
how this national tragedy was going to affect all of that.
And I can promise you that I, my my upbringing
felt felt positive. You know what I'm talking about. You know,
you know from the experiences I enjoyed alongside my peer group. Uh,

(02:23:34):
you know, and and you know watching you know, technological
innovation and you know, things things, things do resume right,
things get back to normal. And as a people, and shoot,
as humanity, like what you know, the animal we are
human beings were resilient. And so yeah, I understand right

(02:23:54):
now things look pretty bleak, and and I understand your
concerns as a parent for children and who are going
to remember this? My kids they're young, you know, they're
four and one right now. Your kids are in college,
as you just mentioned, and you worry about what life
will look like for them moving forward. But I promise
you steve just like my generation being you know, having

(02:24:16):
first hand witness to the atrocities of evil people. Uh
and and you know, uh, the how scared we felt
during that time that tragedy of nine eleven, when on
the other side of it, you're stronger for it. You know,
the past generation suffered and struggled to you know, World
War wars were fought, and Vietnam a draft was issued,

(02:24:39):
you know, so there there's always been challenges each generation
and faced. And while this seems like one of the worst, uh,
you know, hopefully as a retrospective we look back on
this time and understanding made us stronger. All right, when
the guy go Fox First Radio Studios, we're gonna get
John Paul Morossi on the other side, gives a little

(02:25:01):
update on where we stand with Major League Baseball. Well,
right now, what is trending? Oh boy, Davey Gascar? Oh boy, yeah,
oh boy. Okay, you're watching your NASCAR, you said earlier,
you're very excited. You're watching them do a lot of
left turns now, and how's it looking to you? It's good.
They're going fast, Yeah, really fast, and a lot of

(02:25:22):
left turns there are. Yeah, does anybody have their blinker
on that? No? No, these are illegal left turns. I
guess you can say. Steve, you mentioned this yesterday, I think,
but being inside of a NASCAR you mentioned the figure
that you had with driving a stock car. Um, I
did so in Fontana a couple of years ago. Yes,

(02:25:44):
and I was. I think my The most nervous I
got was not actually when I was in the vehicle.
It was prior to that, when I had to sign
the waiver and release. If you damaged this car, you're
gonna like thousands and thousands of dollars. And uh, if
anybody out there knows that listens to Fox Sports Radio frequently,
um my driving is come into question. Yes, yes, yeah,

(02:26:05):
Well I I demolished one year when I was in
the Celebrity Race. I demolished my car in practice. I
hit a concrete wall at about fifty miles well. I
was making I was trying to I was doing practice
runs here. I was trying to create a new breaking
point to try to get a little extra speed, and

(02:26:27):
then I made the turn, but I got sort of
out of line and as I turned my my rear
was starting to slide, and as I tried to compensate,
it just locked in and I went literally head on
into a wall. Now I'm all strapped in, but believe me,
that's a jolt. But they were less concerned about me
in the car which had to be replaced, and they said,

(02:26:48):
don't do that again. I believe me. I remember my
kids are really small and they're like, Dad, well look
what you did. And I'm like, all that, I go,
Let's let's not advertise, right, Let's let's all get back
to the hotel guy first, your last guys. The NASCAR

(02:27:09):
Series at Darlington right now, Ax Bowman as your leader,
followed by Jimmy Johnson. He's in second place. Brad Kazlowski,
who had the polls leading the majority of this race
right now, is in third, and then Kevin Harvick is
in fourth. Meanwhile, in the National Football League, Bills tackle
at Oliver pop today for drunk driving in Houston, Texas.
He has also been charged with one kind of unlawfully

(02:27:30):
carrying a weapon. He was reportedly caught with a beer
between his legs, and apparently the officer that administered the
field sobriety test know that Oliver may have been impaired
by something else other than alcohol. Stay tuned on that
former Washington Redskins Dexter manly hospitalized and receiving oxygen to
treat breathing issues related to the coronavirus. He's sixty one

(02:27:51):
years of age, has a temperature between a hundred and
one and a hundred and four, and also is battling
pneumonia too. Fells back to you, all right, David, thank
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has done at all the great John, Paul Morosie and JP. Obviously,
the big news is the impast between the owners and
the players. I'm still trying to figure out the owner's angle.
They had an agreement pro rated salaries based on how

(02:28:34):
a many numbers, how many games they would play. The
players are good with it, the owners are good with it,
and now all of a sudden, the owners want to
change all that and go to a fifty fifty revenue
split with no idea how much revenue we're actually talking about?
What what? What is? What is the story behind the
story are the owners hell been on not having a
baseball season because you know there's no way the players

(02:28:54):
union will agree to it. Well, Steven Roots, good afternoon.
A couple of key points um this. Number one, the
agreement that was reached in March did have the clause
in it that said that the return to play as
agreed upon in that deal presupposed that there would be
fans in the stands and no travel restrictions. And clearly

(02:29:18):
right now there are still some degree of travel restrictions
in terms of differences obviously state to state as we
live every day, but more importantly that there are no
fans in the stands potentially all season long. And so
that that is the clause by which Baseball is re
examining the overall economics of this, assuming that without fans

(02:29:40):
in the stands, it's going to be a very different
revenue model of of Baseball's revenues come from fans in
the stands. And so I think on that level, the
fact that there was that clause in the contract allowing
for potentially some alternate circumstances economically, it seems to me
that there is solid ground to revisit the those particulars

(02:30:00):
of the of the agreement, and the other key point
here Stephen Rich, is this that baseball makes a lot
of its money in terms of television revenues and overall
revenues from the postseason, and the postseason is based on
the calendar the spot of the year that is most
in danger of being affected by a second spike in

(02:30:23):
cases of COVID nineteen. So a lot of public health
officials have said that we as a country should prepare
for the possibility of another spike that is concurrent with
flu season, and if that arrives in October November, uh,
then the postseason could potentially be in jeopardy. And that's
where I think logically baseball is saying this, it's hard

(02:30:43):
for us to pay out full salaries on a on
a per day basis going forward if we don't know
whether or not we're going to be able to even
have the biggest money maker that we have during the
course of the season, which is the playoffs. So I
think that rhetorically speaking, both the agreement in in the
March deal that that assumed there'd be fans in the

(02:31:03):
stands and now there's not, and the second part the
fact that your your main money maker is in jeopardy.
To me, there is a logical foundation for Baseball to
take a more comprehensive look at the economic foundation of
the sport here in the days ahead. I follow that logic, JP,
and I completely understand, and that was a very reasoned
way to explain it, UH. And I appreciate that that

(02:31:25):
input because it is very difficult for me to digest
what Major League Baseball and the owners actually did, you know,
as opposed to taking a reasoned approach talking about this
publicly in a fashion statement that really talks about the
ongoing negotiations between the union and the ownership, what they
did was they released UH part of this proposal that

(02:31:50):
they knew would ignite the players ire speaking about UH
lack of salary and and you know for the play
years who are maybe not as close to the negotiation
table UH like Blake Snell for example, had a big
reaction to this. And so I I have been calling

(02:32:11):
this UH, this whole public release of this proposal sham
from the beginning, because I think it's less about actually
coming to any sort of UH conclusion or or negotiating
UH end with the players, and it's more about passing
the buck so the owners are taking a lot of
heat for not getting a viable plan out to the

(02:32:34):
players and to the general public to resume or even
start their baseball season. And so how do they create
a public relations distraction. Well, let's get people talking about
the greedy players, how they won't play for a diminished salary.
And so if that was the goal, you know, they
they really I mean, they chummed the water and some

(02:32:56):
of these players took the bait, and I think it's
dirty pool during a pandemic. And I I was really
dissatisfied with that decision by Major League Baseball. Well, a
couple of things on that. Number one, I do think
that it was important that over the last week when
when the sides came together for the first conversation, I

(02:33:17):
think it was on Monday or Tuesday. Uh. And Joel
Sherman has reported on this at The New York Post
that the substance of that discussion was the public health
and as as we've seen it, our colleague at Fox
Ken Rosenthal's reported on the sixty seven page document that
speaks to the players protocols and what they're going to
have to abide by during the course of season. If

(02:33:39):
it happens, and to me what I have seen of
it from from Ken's reporting, of course, it seems to
me to be a very well thought out plan, and
I think one of the key parts is it is
not as restrictive as the full quarantine bubble You wouldn't
see anybody outside of your team for six months. That

(02:34:00):
not what this is that there are a lot of
uh to me, a lot of fairly uh flexible plans
in terms of who you can see as long as
you're wearing a mask and adhering to the overall public
health guidelines wherever you are. So I think from that standpoint,
it is less restrictive than than the more uh than
than the more rigid plans that we had seen discussed

(02:34:21):
earlier on in this process a couple of months ago
about the bubble city and and and that sort of
idea with the Arizona. So I think to me that
plan was both flexible in terms of what players can
do away from the ballpark, and also very comprehensive and
very detailed when it comes to what they're able to
do at the ballpark. Testing of temperature every day, testing

(02:34:42):
routinely of u of the symptoms with the nasal swab
or other forms of tests that will get the answers
pretty quickly. I think overall, it's a very comprehensive plan.
Now the second part about the economics, I think that
in general, first of all, this is a free country,
and and players if they want to weigh in about
their nion of things and and UH and the hardships

(02:35:02):
on them physically, the hardships on their families, I think
that this is a free country, free society, and the
players are are free to speak their minds as well.
I think that in in Blake's case, there wasn't maybe
the proper context of understanding worthy agreement would be or
or what the current negotiations are, and that that ultimately,
again it's up to teach individual person to make those

(02:35:24):
statements as as well versed and as well informed as
they can be. But I don't I don't look at
the the agreement, or at least the proposal of the
of the health aspects of this being released as in
any way an effort to to invite the players to
weigh in in a in a way that's not really constructive.
I think that's that's up to each individual member of

(02:35:44):
the Union to voice his his feeling on things. And
I think the overall point Rich is that I would
make is this, if there are players that for family
hardship reasons, personal hardships, uh, if their wife is due
to give birth during the course of the season, if
they don't want to play, or not comfortable or are
not comfortable playing, they should be I think embraced for

(02:36:07):
that decision and dealt with empathetically, with with some degree
of of support with the overall structure of of labor
relations and allowed to take the time away while other
players potentially play on. And and there's a bit more
of a reassessment of the game of the economics after
the season is over. But I think in general, getting
the game back on the field does not have to

(02:36:29):
include every single person in the in the sport here
this year. My final question, j P, what ultimately will
be to deciding factor on whether or not we have
a Major League Baseball season? Great question, I I really
think there's going to have to be a compromise here
of both positions. I realized that right now we're here

(02:36:50):
in the seventeenth of May, and and we've got a
lot of in my view, still about a ten days
or two weeks worth of pretty sarious bargaining going on.
I am personally going to remain optimistic until it's June.
Unless there's not a deal by June that I would say,
we could get a little concerned. But for now I
think this is all under the heading of normal bargaining.

(02:37:11):
There's always a lot of strong feelings on both sides,
and I really want to give both sides chance to
to reach that compromise because both sides realize, Steve and
Rich that the money to be made is down the line. Okay,
this year obviously is not playing out the way that
we expected. But if you come back this summer and
do it the right way, in a way that reflects

(02:37:32):
the values of the game and the country in the
national pastime, you've got a chance to have a really
important seat at the table culturally for a long time
to come. All right, j P, as always, thanks for
your time, all the best to you and your family.
Will talk to you next week. Sounds great, guys, I'm
gonna believe we're moving closer and closer to that. But uh, certainly,
it was great to see the Bundesliga back on FS

(02:37:53):
one this weekend. About Robert Lewandowski do nothing went for
Byron Mutich today over n own Berlin to Moon to Liga. Yes,
I did a little on that on TV last night.
Great stuff, JP, John Palmer, John Palm, a ROSSI joining
us right, there are Fox Sports Radio MLB insider, all right,
when the guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios. So each
week we take a sneak peak of where we should be,

(02:38:15):
where we will be a week from today, we'll tell you.
Coming up next Steve Harmon and rich Armburger coming down
the stretch for us by the way of the city
or laughing. So Ricky Fowler hit a pretty sizeable putt
for his team to win a hole and this Skins competition,

(02:38:36):
and as soon as the ball went in the hole,
he put his arms up in the air, acknowledging the
roar of the crowd. That's right, there's no crowd. Uh.
It was pretty funny everyone. Everyone had a good laugh
out there there to play. Similarly, yeah, I guess at
the end of a lot of these matches, the Germans
will get in a line and they'll you know, sort

(02:38:59):
of roll their arms up and you know, and cheer
on with their their fans section. And they still did
that even though there was nobody in those seats, right exactly,
so you sort of your accustomed this, right. Uh So anyway,
good stuff. They are good to see some live sports today,
that is for sure. I want to thanks Sam today.

(02:39:20):
I was Sam, um, who how are you doing these days? Sam?
Are you okay? Am I doing okay? Yeah? Great? Right?
I mean we're okay, We're at there. There's a lot
of lef I've just been wearing. As you know, he
almost cut off his finger, and then that he's doing better.

(02:39:41):
I've been wearing my mask probably the most at anybody here. Yes,
you have. Nobody else is wearing their mask. I am. Well,
Gavin doesn't like the mask. I know that. Gavin says
I can't breathe. I mean that I can breathe in it.
But it's a paper mask. I write an article about
the danger of carbon dioxide whatever it is out coming out? Yeah, okay,

(02:40:01):
So and gascon is unchanged, he really is. I mean,
this beards a little grotesque, but I'm in playoff for him. Well,
I'm excess to see Riches beard. As you know. Tomorrow
rich and I will be reunited face to face in
the first time in sixty three days. Uh, and even
though I never change, um Rich says, the hair is long,

(02:40:25):
the beard's coming in, and I'll have to get a
bird's eye view of that. Now, how's his weight though?
Given us an update? All right, now, let's let's update this.
So on the fourteen of each month. So last last
month he weighed in at two hundred and sixty point
four pounds to sixty point four pounds, and so now

(02:40:49):
he weighed in again on Thursday, and you went from
two sixty point four to what I went to to
sixty point zero. There it is. He lost one point
four pounds in a week. Oh no, is that a month?
In one month? So if you break it down by

(02:41:10):
thirty or thirty one days, we're really getting down to
many ounces per day. Many ounces. And by the way,
are you drinking lagger or like what are you doing? Yeah? Well,
see that that is something I may have to curtel.
You know, the quarantine is effected us all differently, David
gascon and by case, I think maybe the calories were

(02:41:31):
reduced effectively, but maybe some of the imbibing created a
calorie uh. Impact. All I will say, by the way,
you did say that when you did find out that
you had lost that point four pounds in a month.
You then want on an eating binge that day? Is
that correct? Yeah? That that was filled that morning, William
was followed by a breakfast burrito and an evening filled

(02:41:54):
with pizza with bacon and hallapenos. That has been my
favorite topping lately. Yeah. Basically that beck Frist burrito was
the size of a small child. Well, I would say
that would yeah, at the breakfast burrito. Let's just put
it this way. I was so happy with it. I
could have gone back for a second, but I showed
great restraint. There you go. Well, I anxious to get

(02:42:18):
back to that world, There's no question about that. Uh.
It has been an interesting couple of months. So I
will ask you quickly in our final thirty seconds here
quick thoughts on where it will be a week from now.
Anything major changing next week? Over next week, I think
we're gonna hear something from the m B. I if
I look into my crystal ball, it's gonna be some

(02:42:40):
sort of indication that they're heading closer to a decision.
And of course I am going to get this diet
under control. Steve. That is the big announcement, Rich I
will see you tomorrow. Yes, unbelievable, reunited, and the rest
of that is knocked three

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