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Steve Hartman and Cuttino Mobley talk about the NBA's restart and Jonathan Isaac receiving backlash for standing during the national anthem. The guys react to C.J. Mosley opting out of the upcoming NFL season and question if MLB is on the brink of collapse. Finally, they take a look at which team could cause the most problems for LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports. Yes, living the Drain once
again on a fabulous Saturday. It is Hartman and Mobili.
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free rate quote. Well, the landscape of sports is certainly changing,

(00:24):
almost minute by minute. The NBA restarted on Thursday. Major
League Baseball is in a whole heap of trouble. I
want to bring up this point because no one is
talking about the return of the NHL. In fact, I
want to jump in right now with David Gascott. I
want to do this. No one is talking NHL's return

(00:46):
the twenty four teams, Gascon. You are are insider with
the NHL. Can you explain to me before we do
anything else? Got a lot of NBA, a lot of
Major League Baseball football, everything you talk about. Can you
explain team this twenty four team playoff format they are
adopting with the restart of the season. Yeah, it's it's

(01:07):
pretty pretty easy. Steve wants to get going now with
the Ranges and Hurricanes. Is that you're gonna have these
playing games, and they're gonna be in two hub cities.
They'll be in Toronto and in Edmonton, and they'll have
these playing games, which basically will be set up before
the Stanley Cup Playoffs. The Stanley Cup Playoffs is gonna
have the regular round of events where you're gonna have

(01:28):
the sixteen teams on both sides and they're gonna play
the best of seven series. But these playing games, basically
what they are is the best three of five and
so these determined the playoffs seatings of how you get in.
And then after that everyone that did not qualify for
the Stanley Cup Playoffs will be dim down to the
draft selections one obviously through the rest of the remainder

(01:51):
of qualifying teams. So a little bit different obviously. But yeah,
these teams will be staying put. They're not going anywhere
as it stands right now. So it's only in Toronto
in Edmonton. All right, Well, there you go. There's a
little NHL update courtesy of David Gascon. Thank you very much.
So we got the NHL season underway today. Of course,
the NBA season started on Thursday, and Cat, I'll tell

(02:13):
you what. We were all excited to sit down and
watch a little NBA basketball on Thursday. Uh, the games.
By the way, I was talking to a guy that
is part of a gambling establishment. Every game is an over.
I mean, no one's playing any defense. The scores of skyrocketed.
They didn't know how to reset the lines. As far

(02:33):
as total points. It's concerned and people are making a
mint betting the overs so far in these NBA games.
But what have you seen on the court the last
couple of days. Well, first of all, Lebron James is
playing defense. Well, at the end of the game, he did.
Don't don't you the whole game, Lebron James took a point.
The reason why Lebron James wasn't focused on scoring, if

(02:54):
you really look at the detail of this, is inability
to make a shot. Not even that. He was focused
on stopping two of the best twos and threes in
this league right well, at the end of the game
he literally stopped both of them. Throughout the course of
the game, Anthony Davis was booming. Lebron says, okay, you
know what, I don't want to take this from him.
Anthony Davis drifted towards in the fourth quarter, Lebron James

(03:17):
took over. But at the end of the day, throughout
the whole game, deflections, moving his feet, I mean up
and down the floor, calls and problems. You think about it.
He stopped him at half to Kawen, let have tried
to score on him at halftime, stopped him, was about
to get a lay up, time expired, Like the whole game.
Lebron James is playing defense, all right. Look at these

(03:38):
games yesterday, six games yesterday, eighteen twelve, one nineteen twelve,
and of course that Rockets Mavericks game one fifty three
to one forty nine. So okay, maybe Lebron is the
one exception. Nobody else seems to be able to play defense.

(03:58):
Why would you account for these insanely high scores the
first couple of days in the NBA is a great offense,
lack of defense? Why are these scores so high? I
think it's in between, right, I think it's both. If
you look at Boston and the Bucks, both three point
shooting teams, both get up and down. That's a that's
about fair. The Vison regular seasons one nine team once too.

(04:21):
If you go back Boston playing the Celtics. If you
look at the Kings and the Spurs, and neither one
of them actually are really great defending teams, even though
you have Gregg Popovich, right, Uh, the Grizzlies, that's the
one to me. But Portland Shops is not a great
defensive team. Well it never were. Yeah, the Magic and
Nets that's like a U game, that's not even really

(04:44):
NBA basketball. And they were out there anyway. The bottom
line is is that the NBA is often running and
let's I mean, let's break it all down, cat, I mean,
let's let's start with the basics. Okay, So Thursday we
watched the two games, and we see the court horde
looks good. Did you like the virtual fans? I don't
think they made enough of this. But they're moving. They're

(05:06):
not cardboard cutouts. They're like, I'm not quite sure what
they were. They didn't go into great explanation, but they're
actually virtual fans because they're moving even if they're not
physically there. What did you think of that? You know,
I really didn't pay attention to it. You know, what
I was looking at mostly just enjoying the game. Again.

(05:27):
I was looking at the detail. I was looking at
guys coming off screens. I was watching it with one
of my sons, actually two of my sons I was
watching it with, and uh, I was just kind of
telling him the technique defensively watching Danny Green, or watching
Lebron or you know, watching Paul George of Kawhi, Leonard
Patrick Beverley. Watch how they move their feet, Watch how

(05:47):
they all off off the ball defensively, offensively, how they
you know, run to the ball. You know. Uh, just
I was watching things like that, the virtual stuff. I
wasn't because what I love about the game is you
don't really see the fans much. Do you remember when
the Lakers did this whole showtime thing where they dim

(06:08):
everything and people like, well, I don't really like you know,
like that, blah blah blah. Did you like it? As
a player? It to me, it didn't bother me because
what I'm doing is I'm so consumed inside the game
everything else really doesn't bother me. So when I'm looking
at the game, I may be looking at it differently
than how you are. You may be listening to the announcers,
you may be Okay, this guy, I'm looking at what

(06:30):
plays they're calling out of a time out? Who who
missed the play, defensive assignments, possessions of the ball. I'm
looking at that, so everything else I can't really truthfully,
I can't really see it. So uh yeah, I would
say this. I mean there was a little rust obviously,
and that's understandable. And people will say, well, they've been

(06:50):
working out on their own and Cat, You've said this
many times. You can work out twenty four hours a day.
It doesn't even get ready for game shape. And even
the scrimmages are not actual games. It takes it up
a notch. So it's gonna take a few games. And
that's great that they have these eight games to sort
of get themselves ready for the postseason. I maintain as
long as they can stay COVID free, um that we

(07:12):
are going to see a dynamic playoff because after four
months in basketball, how can basketball get it together right now?
Knock on wood And they're in a bubble. Okay, So
we we have so much to get to. We'll get
to baseball because obviously this is a critical weekend for baseball.
There is a real threat that the baseball season is
going to be shut down. But we get back to

(07:34):
honoring the bubble. Oh, by the way, you can talk
about the Laker victory over the Clippers, a two point
win to the best six men in the league. Montras, Harold,
and Williams were not in the line of for the Clippers.
Clippers will still maintain, believe me, we have the deepest
team and we're gonna prove it once we get to
the games that really matter in the postseason. How about
Lou Williams Now I said he went out to get wings.

(07:54):
Now there's a stripper of that place saying, oh, he
did more than wings. Let me, let me promise you
that actually goes. I gave him a few dances as well,
so he didn't just come here for the wings. You
don't believe henity really, So you think Lou is simply
there to get the wings. I think Lou was there
to get wings. Listen, you're at a strip joint. You're
having wings. What's a little entertainment. It's not illegal. You

(08:17):
can't have a girl dance for here for a couple
of dances. Listen. I don't care if people judge me not.
I'm not a strip club person right when I do.
When I'm met my friends and weird different cities. Whatever,
if we do go they have the best food ever.
I have never eaten at a strip joint. And believe me,
I've been in many strip joints. I have never ever
ever eaten at a strip has shocked me in so

(08:39):
many ways. The craziest thing I've heard this year is
this notion, and I believe it, but that strip clubs
have the best food. I have never at the best food.
I promise you stake my point though, is is there
anything wrong if he decided, after having a really good

(09:01):
meal of wings that he engaged in a couple of
dances with a girl. I mean, what's the difference of
he he was out of the bubble anyway, exactly being
out of the bubble anyway when you come back, think
about this guy's when you come back, you're gonna have
to quarantine regardless. I mean to be honest with you,
If you're going to a strip joint and you're not
engaged in some way with the girls that are dancing there,

(09:23):
I find that bizarre. I really do. I don't care
how good the food is. If you got beautiful women
there and you're in a strip place and you're just
there to eat the wings and ignore everything else, Come on,
what are we talking about I mean, let's go back, people,
let's go back think about this. There there is a major,
major establishment right called Hooters. What was the whole idea

(09:47):
of Hooters? Right, We're gonna get wings and we're gonna
have cute girls out all over the place. You're not
exactly you're not touching, But boy, I tell you what,
if you've got a lot of attractive women in the room,
those wings taste that much better. They do, But do
they taste that much better? What you're saying is totally
different things. Yeah, I'll go to whodus. You're not touching

(10:08):
the girls. No, you're just going for the wings. The
wings weren't dead good, but looking in the girls, you're
going for the wings and the girls. That's you going
for When you go to sup up. Some guys don't
even want to get dancing. They just want to see
women walking around, which makes the food taste. The food
is good because when you're like at an outdoor restaurant,
you know, you go down to like let's say you

(10:28):
go down to a place down by the beach, right,
and you've got a full view of the beach and
everything else, and they bring that food. That food taste better.
It really does. I mean, if you have a beautiful
setting that you're sitting in while you're eating, it makes
the experience better. The food tastes better. So so all
the visuals. Look, I'm not condemning lou Williams. Man. If

(10:50):
indeed he decided to get a couple of dances, more
power to you. At least in my world, he'd be
more normal guy just getting there, might have got some breast,
thank you. Yes, but listen, how about this one. If say,
if if he never even went there, right, if you

(11:11):
never even went there, he would still have to come
back to the bubble and quarantine art exactly, but it
would have been four days. For some reason, they placed
a tendy day quarantine, which may him missed the Laker game.
Zion was able to come back. It matters because what
the what the Clippers do not want to do is

(11:33):
fall from the two seat of the four seat. No, no, no,
I'm saying, what is it? Four days? You come back?
So what's different in the test taking when you come back?
I see, if you're if you're if you're getting a
valid excuse to lead the bubble, which he went to
a funeral, I guess that's what they're saying. If you're

(11:54):
gonna leave the bubble, tell us what you're doing. Exactly
what they're saying is you embella on your own and
by the way, have fit in my own house. I'd
invited two shippers to my house and well again, if
it hadn't been for his rapper, but then posting pictures,
no one would even have known. Yeah, exactly from this

(12:15):
k from Kentucky. So he posted pictures and he pulled
the pictures off, saying, oh those were from a previous Okay, thanks,
what are friends for? Right? All right, we're in the
Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios dealing with little kids.
We'll get into more detail about the restart of the
NBA season, but we have to dress what's happening as
far as baseball is concerned. Could this be the final

(12:36):
weekend of the Major League Baseball season? And is there
an answer to their problems? We have one coming up
next Steve Harvey Katino Mobile. We're coming alive from the
Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. All right, So we
have some good NBA action underway, which is great, and
then there's Major League Baseball. Oh, so we set from

(12:59):
the beginning at that This looks gonna be difficult for
Major League Baseball to pull it off because, unlike the NBA,
where they were in a bubble environment, major League Baseball
was not. And even though they had guidelines on what
the players needed to do when they were at the ballpark,
and by the way, they u follow those rules either,
but that's another story, there was no real protocol for

(13:21):
what to do when you're not at the ballpark, especially
when you're on the road. And apparently that's what happened
to the Miami Marlins. We were sitting here a week ago,
the baseball season was just getting under way, and then
Monday morning, all held brokeless. The Marlins had all these
players test positive. Literally se team wiped out. So the

(13:42):
Marlins aren't playing right now. The Phillies aren't playing. So
they've played three games and now we got members of
the cardinal organization they are testing positive, so they had
to postpone their games. So and by the way, this
is a four warning to the NFL or college football
or any other sport team sport. I'm not talking individual

(14:03):
sports like golf or even a sport like NASCAR where
you're in a car and just naturally isolated. But when
you're in a team sport where there's physical contact, like
we're watching the NBA right now, if you're not in
an absolute, secluded, isolated bubble situation, the idea of somehow

(14:25):
eliminating the possibility of anyone given COVID nineteen. And by
the way, what we saw the Marlins is what we've heard.
This stuff spreads immediately, like one guy could literally boom
even if no one's showing symptoms. Twenty one players bang
just like that on the Marlins. I wonder, how do
you feel they went out to some uh place in Atlanta,

(14:47):
they were on the road something, you know, they went out,
you know, and we don't know how many guys got
initially infected, but it literally spread like wildfire, just like that.
And that was like in an exhibition. So this is
the problem trying to play these teams sports where there's
going and baseball has obviously a lot less physical uh

(15:11):
contact than the NBA are really do you have to touch?
But in the dugouts, look at what they're doing. Like
the commissioner comes out and he tells the players union,
if you guys don't start really following the rules, we're
gonna have to shut it down. You should have explained
that from the get go. Remember that first Friday night
when the A's had the walk off Grand Slam home

(15:33):
run and the first thing you saw was the entire
team standing at home plate, and we're like, wait a second.
With their rules that said you couldn't put everybody together,
that there was no mass gathering from congratulations. Then I
started watching these baseball games. Some guys are marrying masks,
some weren't. The dugouts are crowded. What happened to guys

(15:53):
that weren't actually in the game sitting in the stands
as anybody doing that? No, So the fact is is
that you have a commissioner too little, too late. The
fact is they should have dropped the hammer on the
A's that first Friday night for what they did. And
tell everybody this, if you're not on the field, you

(16:15):
wear a mask. It's non negotiable. If you don't want
to wear a mask, go home. You will give up
your pro rated salary. And we'll see in wearing a
mask in the dugout or anywhere other than on the
field is not optional. You have to wear a mask

(16:35):
because as we're seeing with the Marlins and so many
other places. If you don't and you're in a close
vicinity with people and you are infected, even if you
have no symptoms, it will spread like wildfire. Yeah, I'm
just literally, I'm just trying to while you're talking, I
was trying to think, like when you go to the dugout,

(16:56):
do you put new like rubber gloves on? Do you
put like a is it someone in the dugout? Um?
I got some things brewing right now. I'll tell you
after this, But is it something to dugout that you know,
uh uh? Anti virus? Kind of like you wipe down,
like what are they doing in Like it should be
someone in the dugout making sure everything's always clean. The

(17:18):
idea was when you're in the dugout. First of all,
not everyone was supposed to be in the dugout because
there are no people in the seats. You were supposed
to go behind the dugout, those empty seats behind the
dugout and spread out. That was the whole idea of
social distancing. So if you're in the dug out, if
you need to be in the dugout, maybe you're you know,
gonna be hitting in that inning or whereever. You just

(17:40):
have to maintain distance. You have to be wearing a mask.
None of that is going on. Can I actually dug
out looks like any dugouts packed with people? And sam ken, Okay,
listen to this. If I don't have COVID, righty, and
I and say, this desk right here has like it's
it's some germ from COVID, right, and you put your

(18:01):
hands on it and you wipe it on your face,
on my face. He touched my face yet because I
got my mask on my eyes. Don't touch nothing. You're
not gonna get it. But okay, no, no, no, no, no,
it had it comes through the right salmon. It's ingested somehow.
You have to ingest I mean the eyes, anything with
the whole correct mouth. I don't think years though, I
haven't heard anything about about the ears. You can't go

(18:23):
through the ears. Actually not blood. It's not blood, duh.
I'm saying something's open. Uh, something's open. If you really
have to either like breathe it in or take it
in through airborne, it's it is airborne. Yeah, everyone's the
most easiest. But I thought it was droplets can droplets
in the air, right, But airborne and droplets are different

(18:44):
the same thing. Droplets in the airborne droplets airborne drop
like you're breathing in the droplets. Yeah, I mean, that's
argue with my girlfriend about that. I said airborne. She says, no,
it's droplets. Abe is droplets. But see, because you can
know more than I do, so I'm not even gonna
argue with us. All right. So when you have a
hand sanitizer, what if this hand sanitizer that I'm holding
right here, which has been used by who, I don't

(19:05):
know how many people, has got it's all covered with it, right,
But then I squirted? What happened there? Did you see that?
At one sideways? This thing has been tampered with? So
and then I wipe my hands with it, So I
basically have sanitized my hands from actually picking up the
hand sanitizers. What I've done is that, right am? I
pretty much on the accurate with that, Okay, So if

(19:27):
I had never touched the hand sanitizer, I wouldn't need
the hand I can tell you that that bottle hand
sanitizer has nothing on it because people use the hand
sanitizers so much they touched the bottle. There's no germs
this entire building, right Okay, So the bottom line is,
here's what baseball needs to do right now here, seriously,
if they want to salvage any of this season. I
remember they expanded the playoffs. The reason they're expanding the

(19:50):
playoffs is to make money. I mean, everything's about money.
They need to shut the whole thing down right now.
They have to re re established the idea of eating
a bubble situation in either Arizona or Florida or both.
It can be done. It has to be done in
a disciplined way. The idea of being on the road

(20:11):
and these variety of cities and the idea, well it's
the West versus West Central Central ECAs. Come on, you're
still on the road. If you basically put the National
League teams all in Arizona at the various spring training sites,
and you put the entire American League in the Florida

(20:32):
area at the variety of sites control there where they're whereabouts.
So there're a big difference between the NBA. Major League
Baseball is finishing their season, major League Baseball is starting
a season. They have to carry this out for three months.
If you can include the playoffs and now you're gonna
make three weeks at this rate. I would just shut

(20:54):
it down. Let's rethink this. Let's rethink this, because ultimately
what Bay fall once, whether it's a sixty game season
or a forty game season, you gotta get to the moneymaker,
which is the playoffs. So this idea that this is
going to get better, it's not. It's the Cats out
of the bag and they got to completely shut this

(21:15):
down and do a restart of the baseball season. Steve
Gavin and I were talking about this earlier, and I
said that most of these baseball players, I believe are
catching COVID from not from the games, but from what
they're doing at home and how they're not distancing enough
in the clubhouse, Uh, you know, fraternizing with their friends,

(21:37):
were with fellow players. It's not from being at home plate.
And it's this stereotypical, right, It's just stereotypical. Yes, like
maybe to go into yeah, the whole like fraternizing with friends,
bar or whatever. It is kind of the little spots,
you know what I mean. Like, of course, look you're
sitting there like you're you're you're a twenty five year

(22:01):
old major league baseball player and You're already making major money,
right and you know you're getting texts from girls saying, Hey,
haven't seen you in a while. Miss you. Come on,
what are you gonna do. You've got to isolate these guys.
You've got to Baseball needs to forget whatever game plan

(22:22):
they had. Scrap it. It's a dead end. Start over again.
Salvage of what you can. I said from the get go,
this was actually a blessing to happen early, Like you
can already see whatever game plan you had is not
gonna work. You've got to be in a bubble. So
create a bubble in Florida, create a bubble in Arizona.
Use those two hubs. Because of the spring training facilities,

(22:43):
are plenty of ballparks that you can use. You isolate
him in certain hotels, do whatever, shut it down. Don't
hope that you're going to survive this because you're not.
Can we do this for the NFL, like Jerry World,
I mean, there's still this idea they that they're gonna
have fans, We're gonna have at some point, eliminate that idea,
all right. I want to get to that on the
other side, because if the NFL still doesn't have a

(23:06):
game plan. They still do not have a game plan
for the start of the NFL season. All right, or
in the guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios. That's fine
out it's trending right now, David Gascon, you said worried. Well,
it's not about worried, it's about common sense. We knew
from the get go that this format for Major League

(23:28):
Baseball lent itself to the possibility of a major outbreak,
and it took one weekend for that to happen. If
you have it, can you have it again? No? No,
Actually I've seen that you can get it again. People
have gotten it again. Your antibodies wear out after like
a couple of weeks, I've seen you will have it
the rest of your life. Every human being on the
layer up you know, another case of it, like like pneumonia. Yeah,

(23:51):
well I don't, all right. We also know there could
be residual effects. I don't know nothing pneumonia, lungs, right,
There's a lot of things that come along with it.
But I mean, yeah, David, I mean, the bottom line
is this format for baseball is not gonna work, which
I never got from the get go, because if you're
not having fans in the ballparks anyway, what's what's so
bad about having them at their spring training facilities? Exactly exactly,

(24:15):
you've got to create a bubble. So, as I said,
let's let's put a pause on it, kill a couple
of weeks of the season. Let's go to Florida. Let's
go to Arizona. I know there's major outbreaks, but again,
the NBA's in Florida. MLS is in Florida, so they're
figuring it out. As long as you can isolate and

(24:36):
create a bubble atmosphere, otherwise there won't be a Major
League Baseball season. Now. The one thing is you have
certain clubs like the Chicago White Sox play their spring
training games in Arizona. So that would be the one
thing in terms of formatting and that if you want
to make sure that you're no, no no, no, it's you've
gotta you've got to divide the teams. Fifteen teams in Arizona,
fifteen teams, whatever schedule. All you want to do is

(24:57):
to get to the postseason. Yeah, that's exactly it. We'll
see if they can you that. Guys in the NBA
right now, Miami is taking the Denver Nuggets heat lead
right now in the first quarters, scores eighteen to ten.
And that affair National Hockey League. They're playing games as well.
The qualifying round anyway now has it plays it off
to terrabine now across the especially score in front and

(25:20):
it stuffed by question there. The Rangers just scored the
games on NBC. Right now, Carolina leads New York Rangers
by a score of two to one. And you guys
mentioned with Major League Baseball a couple of things today.
Milwaukee Brewers outfielder Lorenzo Kane announce he is opting out
for the rest of the season. It's a big shot
to them. St. Louis Cardinals Milwaukee Brewers game has been

(25:42):
postponed because four more members of the Cardinals tested positive
for the coronavirus, at least one player, three staff members.
MLB Networks John Hayman reports Marlins and Phillips had no
positive results from yesterday's go around with testing, so that's
a good sign for them. They've had games them and postponed.
NFL News patients wide receiver Mark keats Lee has opted

(26:02):
out of the season, and Giants have signed offensive lineman
Nick Gates. Through to your deal. He'll get paid six
point eight million dollars. All right, David, thank you very much.
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(26:23):
which way is easier. All right, we just heard gas
Can talk about Marquise Lee, the former USC starting now
with the Patriots. He does signed a one year deal
joining New England in this past off season. So, Katina,
what he got was was a hundred thirty seven thousand,
five hundred dollars signing bonus and a base salary of
nine d ten thousand dollars. And of course, in the NFL,

(26:45):
to get your base salary, you gotta make the team.
You actually have to play the season. So if you're wondering, well,
how does this work? Now, does he still get the
money the signing bonus he got he gets to keep.
He will get a hundred fifty thousand dollars for opting
out the nine and ten thousand dollar contract rolls into so.

(27:05):
It basically the one year deal he signed for will
now and go into so and then of course to
collect that money still has to make the team. The NFL,
as we sit here, still does not have a definitive
plan on starting their season. As far as COVID nineteen

(27:25):
is concerned. The only thing they said is that we're
gonna do testing for the first two weeks of training
camp every day. That's it. The more I think about it,
the only way the NFL can pull that off, or
pull off a season. We were talking about daily testing
last week. Forget daily testing twice a day, testing every day,

(27:49):
seven days a week from the beginning of training camp
to the end of the end of the season. The
cost of the NFL would be about a hundred and
fifty million dollars, which again is a drop in the ocean.
For a leak had a net profit of sixteen billion
dollars just last year alone. That is the only way,
short of a bubble for the NFL to somehow survive

(28:14):
a season, And even then, I don't know if it
really will make a difference, because when you have that
many players, the nature of the game, the nature of
football players in general off the field, I mean work
for an NFL team, I don't see how it's even
possible that we're gonna have an NFL season without people

(28:35):
getting sick all over the place. No, it's gonna be
tough because there's so many people. Right, it's like fifty
three to sixty players per team. Right, Well, on the field,
you at one time you left twenty two players on
the field, as opposed to an NBA game where they're ten.
So let's do the math. Yeah, I mean there's I mean,
you have rosters that are being expanded obviously for the

(28:57):
possibility of guys getting sick, which only puts more people
in jo. I mean, it's it's kind of like the same,
right because in NBA's fifteen guys total, then there's coaches,
dinner staff, right in NFL there's right, But saying they
can spread out more now, I'm just saying whatever. But
the NBA, those fifteen players touched, they'll be probably in

(29:22):
the game. A lot of those NFL guys, by the way,
even be in the game. Rich Harmburger, as you know,
I do my Monday through Friday show, so our Sunday
show here former offensive lineman uh in the NFL. I
asked Rich how many times we've been lined up against
some big defensive guy and he's like breathing heavily. Yeah,
you mean, you know, like every play. I mean, obviously

(29:44):
he's breathing heavily. Plus we talk about people that are
carrying extra weight being more susceptible to COVID nineteen. Well
that's every offensive lineman the league. All of them are
carrying over body fat to get to three plus pounds.
So if you have so, I mean, those are people

(30:04):
that we have now have some kind of testing going on,
they're more susceptible getting getting the COVID nineteen. I just
do not understand why it is that back in March
when we shut down, the NBA shut down, the NHL
shut down spring training, and and the NFL was like, ah,

(30:25):
we don't have to worry about it. We we got
plenty of time that only been doing for the last
four months, no game plan, none, And so now we're
getting players opting out saying, well, heck, I'm not gonna
put myself at risk if you have no game plan,
because we don't even know. See Sam we were talking.

(30:47):
I refer to Sam Alot because he's like our resident
medical guy with his family in the medical industry. So
even if you do not show symptoms, we COVID nineteen.
The fact that it you do have COVID nineteen, you
may have long term ramifications, right, even if you don't

(31:07):
carry symptoms initially, if you have COVID nineteen, is it possible,
I mean, we don't know yet, but to three years
down the road you could have some lingering residuals if
you contracted code or what. No, no, no, you can't
say that. We know, well, the people who have gotten

(31:27):
really bad infections and then they're feeling the symptoms, actually
symptoms they do. You know, they might have the lingering effects.
But I think if you just have the virus that
passes through you and you're fine, I don't think you're
gonna have any problems, but you didn't have some don't know.
But also to the effects of something that's common. Right,
every time it's prescription drugs, they talk about it. They
actually say the same thing about and every drug is

(31:49):
different made up. So you know what I mean. If
I say you're dizzy, if your urinate doing this, if
you throw up, if they'll say the same things, do
you know what I mean? So if I say this
is what COVID uh feels like when you have it,
maybe Okay, that's a sense of smell or taste or
blah blah blah or dizziness that I might not even

(32:10):
have that I just just personally just you know, I
have food poison and I have I don't. I don't know.
Like it's it's so common. It's not like, Okay, if
you're bleeding from your big toe, do you have it? Like, yes,
you have stigmata. You might know. Well I and you
look at we we know and we've said from the
get go, a lot of people understand their risk in life,

(32:30):
and we every day there's a risk. You wake up
in the morning, be grateful, right, I mean, I mean
people die in their sleep. They go to bed thinking, well,
I can't wait for tomorrow, and for whatever reason, they
expire during the night. Okay, well that happens. So they're
no guarantees. So every time you wake up in the morning,
be grateful out there, right. Um. Well, a lot of
people take these risks more seriously than others, and that's

(32:53):
the problem. Some people look at the risk situation say,
the people to get this are are gonna surve they're
not gonna die. Okay, so I'll I'm gonna bet the
bank I'll be in that. I'm gonna take the as
opposed to the one percent. And then when you say, well, yeah,
but if you get COVID nineteen, s bet it to
someone else. Ah, I'm not gonna get it. I mean,

(33:15):
that's where we are. This is why it's been so
difficult for us to corral this situation because in a
country that gives individuals freedoms, that's what people say, Well,
then I have the freedom to not wear a mask
or not or might I have the freedom to risk

(33:38):
getting COVID nineteen because I am not in fear of
getting COVID nineteen to even the threat that you might
spread it as someone else. That's not what they're thinking about.
They're thinking about themselves. I'm not changing my life for
a disease in which my chances, even if I get it,
are that I will survive. So this is the challenge

(33:58):
you have, And how do you deal with us? I mean, well,
and in a in a country that expresses the individual's
rights to have those freedoms, how do you enforce something
like that? Because people talk about these other countries, there's
no freedoms in China, that's a communist country. They mandate

(34:19):
you do this or you will face the It's very tricky, right,
It's a double a sort, it's super tricky. It's kind
of like we'll get on this topic when you're ready.
But it's kind of like the whole kneeling and standing right,
it's kind of like a lot of different things that's going. Uh,
you know, and I guess wearing your seatbelt it saves
you blah blah, not of just you, someone else, but
you know, all these different things. It's it's it's a

(34:44):
free country, but it's not really free, right, like, because
what we what we have to really understand is we're
we are we are brothers keeper so and and and
take that phrase and say, this is how we become safer, better,
and more of a unit if we follow these rules. Right.
And I think when you you know, would listen. I

(35:08):
don't like wearing a mask, but when you come in
this building, you have to wear a mask. You know,
when I'm in a grocery store, have to wear a mask.
When I go into the gas station, wear a mask.
There's certain things you have to do, excuse me, some
things you have to do, you know, not just for
yourself before everybody else. She's just like just be respectful,

(35:29):
right And I don't know, well, freedom of expression is
certainly front and center in the NBA right now, and
the cancel culture will have none of it. No no, no, no,
no no no no no no no no, there no
no freedom of expression as long as you're on our side.
And one NBA players already feeling the heat. Talk about

(35:51):
that coming up next and then Katino Mobile, we are
coming alive from the guy, goed Fox Sports Radio Studios.
One of the big stories esterday in the NBA came
out of the otherwise meaningless Magic Nets game when Orlando
Magic Ford Jonathan Isaac became the first NBA player to

(36:15):
not only not take a knee during the national anthem,
he did not wear a Black Lives T shirt. So
he stood in his Magic uniform during the national anthem
while everybody else on both teams, uh, wearing a Black
Lives T shirt and taking a knee. Here was his
explanation after the game. So you didn't kneel during the anthem,

(36:37):
but you also didn't wear a Black Lives Matter shirt?
Do you believe the Black Lives matter? That's absolutely I
believe the Black Lives matter. Um A lot went into
my decision and part of it his first off, UM
is my thought that you know, Nili wearing a Black
Lives Matter T shirt don't go hand in hand we

(36:58):
can supported black lives. And so I felt like, just
me personally, UM, what it is that I believe in
standing on understands that, UM, I do believe that black
lives matter. But I just felt like it was a
decision that I had to make it and I didn't. UM.
I don't feel like putting putting a shirt on and
kneeling or went hand in hand with UM supporting black

(37:20):
lives or that it made me support black lives or not.
I believe that for myself, my life has been supported
through the Gospel Jesus Christ, and that everyone has made
in the image of God, and that we all for
shout of God's glory, and that uh, you know, each
and every one of us, each and every day to
do things that we shouldn't do. We say things that
we shouldn't say, and we hate and we dislike people

(37:42):
that we shouldn't hate and dislike UM and and sometimes
it gets into a point where we point fingers, but
who's evil is worse? And and sometimes it comes down
to simply whose evil is is most visible? All right,
So he gave his explanation, which, by the way, is
his explanation. He didn't have to justify it to anyone.

(38:05):
He has the individual right to make his choices and
what he believes. And he is an ordained minister. He's
very religious, Katino. He's been very involved in the community
with a lot of different things. But he made a choice.
And I see people here saying, well, he made no
sense to who you. He had his own reasons, and

(38:29):
I don't understand this cancel culture. They can't accept the
fact that he supports Black lives matter. He gave his
own reasons, even if they don't make sense to you.
Why does that matter? He had his own feelings about
why it is that he decided to not wear the

(38:50):
Black Lives T shirt or take an eed during the
national anthem. Your thoughts to each his own, right. I mean,
you know, I respect what he's saying. It it's wearing
the T shirt or kneeling doesn't make you know no
much more you know pro black lives matter than myself? Right?

(39:13):
Like that doesn't that doesn't mean you can be you
can literally be. Let's just go to a piece for protesters. Right,
just because you inside marching, does that mean that you
really feel emphatic? Like you are you really your your
beliefs are that strong to march? Are you just doing
it because it's like it's something to do? Right? So
no matter if you where or neil or not, you

(39:35):
only know your true intentions on what you can do
to help each other. That's that's that's my take. And
like these hypocrites on both sides, whether it's like you
should be you know, wearing the T shirt and you
should be kneeling, okay, and then the other people on
the other side, Oh, that's disrespectful. Well, all these people
that have all these these opinions, So why don't you

(39:56):
go fight for your country? Then? Oh, you know, why
don't because Muhammad Ali took that care of that one,
so when you're eighteen years old, you don't have to
get this drafted automatically. So there's so many hypocrites on
both sides about you love your country so much, but
then go fight for your country. Don't do that? They
pay you, They pay you well too, So go fight
for your country. Then go over in the war and

(40:18):
fight for your country. Since you're so adamant about someone
doing something else. Here's hypocrites on both sides. It's all whatever,
teach his own the kid. That's what I'll respect what
he's saying. That's just my take. I think the other
part is that's a reporter, that that is Taylor Rooks
and reporters saying you didn't wear the shirt? Do you
not think black lives will come on? The media nowadays

(40:40):
is biased on both sides. Let's face it, there's so
independent media people. We got NFL News coming up next.
All right, rolling on on this Saturday, Harbin and Mobili
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(41:01):
So with all the sports going on, by the way,
we're watching the Nuggets right now, taken on the heat.
Interesting game here because with the Clippers losing to the Lakers,
Denver was in the three slot game and app behind
the Clippers with the restart, so technically they're a game back,

(41:22):
and yet the Nuggets have several starters that are not
in the lineup today. What's going on over there? I mean,
don't doesn't never want to move up to a two seat. Yeah,
I'm just trying to figure out what's the whole. But again,
this this is this is a scrimmage kind of kind of.
These games count, they count, but they they're playing, they're playing,

(41:45):
They're playing the East, right, so it's right, I don't know,
I just well, I mean, look at the seating doesn't
matter as for US home court, we understand, but it
does matter on who you play, right, I mean you,
I mean you can look at the potential matchups of
a two, seven and three, six, four, five and say, well,
we'd rather play that team that that team. I mean,

(42:08):
I I don't know. Maybe maybe the Neggets feel like
it's better to be a three seed. You don't want
to drop to a four seed, though four or five
matchups are a toss up. Certain teams, I mean the
Lakers basically, when they win against the Clippers, clinched the
number one seed. That next group between two and seven,
they're all bunched up together. Do you think they have

(42:29):
a plan, you know what I mean, like you, well,
I don't. One of the game plans forget all the
seeding stuff. One of the game plans. Is just getting
back into the rhythm of playing together as a team.
You're aford of these eight games. Well, maybe you've been
off for four and a half months. Maybe Murray's because
his hamstring. Murray's hamstring is kind of tight. Well, I
mean that's the other part of it, you know, like,

(42:50):
well use surprise. For instance, Lebron and Kauai played thirty
three thirty four minutes too much, too little for that
opening game. I think that's great. Yeah, well, especially for
Len Lebron, be average is thirty two, right, you have
thirty three minutes a game thirty four, not for Kauai.
Do you see Kauai had no on his left I
think it's his left leg. Maybe it's right, I don't know.

(43:12):
I can't with my brain, can't see it right now.
But he has no lift right now. It's like maybe
it's that bone on bone. I don't know if. But
isn't that where you strain a little bit? And other words,
your body's not a hundred percent ready yet, which is understandable.
I mean, you've been off for four and a half months.
A couple of scrimmages working out is not playing in

(43:32):
an actual NBA game. But when you feel like I don't,
then all of a sudden you try to do more physically,
and that's where that's get hurt. Yeah, I just listen,
Lebron played great defense, but I was just watching Kauai,
not even when Lebron was on them, but just in general,
it was some moves that were sharp, but then there
was some moves that just as a basketball player know,

(43:54):
you have eggs and pains where you you favor leaning towards,
you know, certain parts of the body, and I think
he favored the knee sometimes right and leaning and power
coming off of the that side of the glutes. I
don't know, it just it just didn't seem like it

(44:15):
was a pop, you know, like a boom boom boom,
you know, like a I'm rested, I'm ready. It felt
like it was still achy. Something was achy. Ye. I
wanted to get back to a little bit of what
we were talking about before the break um. There were
other people that did not take a knee yesterday in
the n b A, and that was Gregg Popovich and

(44:36):
Becky Hammond, assistant coach with the Spurs. They were wearing
Black Lives t shirts but did not take a knee
during the national anthem. Now Pop is one of those people.
It's been very out front, is for social justice, is concerned,
he's been highly critical of the president. So I mean
he's he's made his stance extremely clear. But he's also

(44:56):
a graduate of the Air Force Academy. I mean, he's
a military every guy with a military background who has
stood during the national anthem throughout his entire life. And
it is not about to change. And I don't think
he needs any explanation beyond that at all. And now
we're getting news that Drew Brees who said he was
really hurt by the pushback he got about, you know,

(45:20):
not respecting guys have taken knee. He has made it
clear by the way that now that he's out front,
he goes, hey, I had an opportunity that I missed on.
I'm trying to compensate. But he also made this clear,
I will not be taking a knee during the national
No one thinks of you any different. You don't say
no one thinks of you differently in today's culture. They do, right,
But they to my point is that I was we're

(45:42):
making um in the previous about the kid Isaac. I
true this is just me. I'm not gonna look at you.
If you're white and you don't kneel, that you're racist.
Or if you're black and you do this, your sell
out of you this you're Asian, you put Spanish. I'm
not even into all of that. What I've what I
what with Drew Brees is the comment that came out

(46:03):
your mouth was insensitive. That's it. You can stand fight
for your brothers that are black, blah blah blah. How
to presentative people that live in New Orleans, right, like
the guys that you know, watch your back while you're talking, like,
don't be insensitive. That's it, right, It's just like a female.
Something happens to a female personally or just playing parenthood,

(46:24):
whether it's you know, uh anything, someone rapes anything. You
can't be insensitive about these things. Just because it doesn't
affect you at the moment doesn't mean that you get
to say what you want to say that that's not
how life works. Okay. So these people who are these
uh left wing or right wing and blah blah blah,

(46:44):
and they have their different opinions. Like I said before,
if you're so adamant about your country when you were
eighteen years old. Why didn't you not go fight? That's
what I'm one though, Why don't you go fight out?
I love my country, but I'm I'm not I'm I'm
keeping to keep it hunting. I'm not going to fight.
That's not me. That's that wasn't me. I went to college,
I played basketball, blah blah blah. I help the million

(47:06):
kids in my community. That was my jubt. But these
people are not even didn't they're not helping their community.
Whether you white, black, Spanish, purple, whatever you are, they're
not even going to fight. You're not doing nothing but
just talking on Twitter, social media or radio. That's all
they're doing. They're they're hiding behind things well but have
to but have opinions. It gets back to the idea

(47:29):
of freedom of expression. It's simply that I can't you
can't have you can't choose to stand but not. You
don't have to fight, you don't have to. This is
the problem with the canceled culture. If you're not all
against this is a credential journalist, Well, she was way
on a line during the anthem, but you also didn't

(47:51):
wear a Black Lives Matter shirt. Do you believe the
black Lives Matter. Stop there. That's snl skit. That is
an snlight in others what you're saying. I mean again,
that's the whole point of the founders of Black Lives Matter,
to give it that name. Black Lives Matter means one
thing to one person, means another thing to another person.

(48:13):
What we have to do is this canceled culture. I
don't know where you're going with this. I don't get it.
I mean, there's another term for a canceled culture, and
I don't want to use it here, but you know
where I'm going. Well, censorship is a mild term, but
basically that's what you're doing. You're trying to conform everybody

(48:33):
to think one way. It doesn't work that way. This
country was built on protests. That's how this sole country
began on protests. That's why protesting, peaceful protesting is a
vital part of the American culture. It is what we
were built on and it needs to be continued. That

(48:54):
we had the passing of John Lewis, one of the
great great Americans in terms of maintaining the power of
peaceful protests. That's what his life was about. And people
want to bring up his name and honor his name. Well,
if you want to honor John Lewis, then adhere to
what he lived by. He believed in protest. He was

(49:17):
considered the conscious of our Congress. It was a great
man who lived by terms of what America was built on.
And he didn't just talk the talk, he walked the walk.
That's what it's about. So the the the idea that
somehow like, well, if Drew Brees doesn't take a knee,
or if Greg Popovich doesn't take a knee, then he's

(49:38):
not in. That's not true because they're doing everything else
to be in. You know, it's like this the other
day exactly, like, for instance, the social justice slogans on
the jerseys. I'm watching the Bucks Celtics game yesterday. Every
player had one. But if you watch the Laker Clipper game,

(50:01):
who did not have one? Lebron Kauai, Anthony Davis, there
were a lot of players didn't have one. Every single
player on the Bucks and the Celtics had one. So
what do you say to the Lebron's the Anthony Davis
is the Kawai Leonards that they chose to have just
their normal jersey. We don't know what Kawhi Leonard is

(50:22):
doing behind the scenes all right, to help the community
black brown, you know, doesn't matter Jewish why it doesn't matter? Right,
We don't know what he's doing. Um you you you
see Lebron James, you see Greg Prop, you see Steve Kerr,
you see uh Betty Becky Hamp. You see a lot
of these different people that are more outspoken. Becky's more

(50:43):
behind the scenes, right, and when Becky was playing, she
was more front and center. I just to each his own.
Let I don't know. It just bothers me that people
have so many opinions with what someone else should do
to be able to fight for something been that they
believe in. Well, I mean, here's to Marja Rosen of

(51:03):
the Spurs saying, do not vilify Pop and Becky Becky
Ham the assistant for Stanny. He says, you know, Pop
speaks out and when it comes to Becky, sheeps on
the front line fighting for equality since I've been a
fan of hers playing in the w n B A.
So everyone has their own right of making a statement,
and he can't vilify nobody for not doing what the
other group is doing. I'm all for so I applaud

(51:26):
him for all right, we have some breaking news. Let's
go to David Gascott giving his Well, there we go.
What do we have? Mr Gascott from Fox four? This
is a big name in the NFL, guys, but New
York Jets linebackers C. J. Mosley decided opt out was
not playing in the season due to family and health concerns.
He is giving up a lot of money. Now, I

(51:47):
understand what the agreement was. If you have legitimate medical problems,
you can get a salary three dollars. But if you're
just opting out for the sake of opting out, you
got a hundred fifty thousand. You are forfeiting your salary.
I mean he's making millions. What happens to that money? Then?
Does that just go to the owners and they just
can say no, the rolls over to the next year

(52:09):
of your contract. I was explaining this the Marquis Lee
sign a one year deal with the Patriots. He opted out,
We're gonna make nine thousand, So that nine thousand now
moves to one. But remember in the NFL, you still
got to be on the roster to collect your salary.
It's not like one year deal. So what happens he
has to make the team again, and then just like
he would have had to make the team this year,

(52:29):
he wouldn't have gotten the nine. You got a signing bonus,
which he keeps you don't for for the signing bonus,
that money's not then that that if you got a
signing bonus, you've got that money in the bank. But
as far as your salary, if you're whatever your salary
is for it now has pushed to one. But unlike
the NBA or Major League Baseball, your contracts fully guaranteed.

(52:52):
That's not the way it works in the NFL. You
still have to make the roster. So same thing with Mosa.
Well that's that's pretty big news right there, wearing the
guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios. All right, so we've
been talking about MBA, we talked about social justice. By
the way, I have one more layer I want to
add to the NBA because I think they're doing the
right thing as far as black lives matter options. Remember,

(53:16):
there are NBA rules prohibiting players from taking a knee
during the national anthem. Obviously, Adam Silver wisely said we're
not going to hold people accountable to that rule. But
there's one thing that's missing from the restart of the
NBA season. We'll tell you what that is. Coming up
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(53:59):
com to learn more. So the n b a is
in the spotlight right now. Black Lives Matter is on
the court, and they're making a concerted effort to use
their platform to advance the cause, which I totally applaud
especially in the NBA Coatino Mobile, which obviously is overwhelmingly

(54:20):
African American. It is something that they really have a
certain level of responsibility. And again, everyone has a freedom
of expression, but I would like to sort of take
this a step further, and that is somehow also recognizing
those that are on the front lines battling COVID nineteen UM.

(54:40):
Black Lives Matter is obviously a cause that is near
and dear to a lot of people associated with the NBA.
But when I think of the n b A, unlike
Major League Baseball or the NFL, they're really global, and
we have a global pandemic going on right now. Whole
world is battling this. This is something that everyone on

(55:03):
this planet right now has to face the consequences of
living in the world where you have a pandemic. There's
gotta be a way to add two where the NBA
stands as far as black lives matter, and to also
reach out to those especially those that are on the
front line battling this disease right now, battling this virus

(55:27):
UH and the almost seven hundred thousand victims around the world.
I just I would like to see that added to
because it seems like the NBA has got a powerful platform.
We don't know if Major League Baseball is going to
finish their season, we don't know if the NFL is
even gonna be able to start their season. But I
feel pretty safe to think that we're gonna get the NBA.

(55:48):
We're gonna get through this season because of the bubble situation,
and so there's gonna be a lot of eyeballs on
the n b A. I would like to add that
because they're they're you know, and I give i Ad
himself for a lot of credit. He's very respective of
the players and everything else. But I think I think
you could add another layer to this. What do you say, Well,

(56:13):
there's so many different things that we can speak up on,
uh put ourselves, uh make ourselves a part of. But
the main focus at the moment moment is this, right, Um,
If if it's it's Black Lives matter at the moment um,

(56:34):
making progress, doing the things that we're doing in our communities.
And it's not an overnight thing because you've got to
think about this in so many different perspectives of it's
nature versus nurture, Right, It's it's preconceived notions. It's stereotypes
that we have to kill or propagandas things like that. So, Uh,

(56:56):
whether it's the leaders of our key communities that Lebron
James is and the you know, the jay z s
and whoever it is that can speak up to these
younger youth and they can listen faster, or it's you know,
the Greg papovich is and the Becky Hemmons that you
know are our friends that are white that's speaking up
for us, and it's it's it's you're fighting against behavior,

(57:22):
and behavior doesn't change right away. It has to be
it goes through time, it takes time and in the consistency.
So right now, what we what we're focusing on is
just this because it's in our backyard. And then once
we get ahold of this and it's you know, and
it's moving uh positively in the right direction, of course,

(57:44):
then we can put something else on our plate. I mean,
it's just me, right, I mean, you can't help your
neighbor if if you're if your house is burning, right,
make sure your house is not burning, fix your house up,
and then go help your neighbor, right, I gotta fix
mind up first. So right now we have I respect
that I understand exactly what you're saying. But also the

(58:08):
n b a is season has restarted and looks like
we're gonna get through it because they're in a situation
that millions of millions of people cannot be afforded, and
that is living in a bubble where everything is taken
care of. And by the way, the NBA has gone
beyond the amenities everything that is available to these NBA

(58:28):
players to make their life in the bubble as comfortable
as possible. We all wish we could live in a
bubble where we don't. We could be tested every day,
that we could put ourselves out of harm's way. As
far as COVID nineteen is concerned, I just I feel
like and I'm not blaming the players because really they're

(58:51):
they're focused right now. Like I said, social justice is great,
there's a lot of things, but it's also recognizing that
there's a certain privilege that these NBA players are being
afforded by being in a bubble, and they have to
in some way acknowledge the fact that the overwhelming majority
of us do not have that luxury. That there are

(59:13):
people in jeopardy around the world. To contract COVID nineteen,
then he will lose their lives. And I'm not saying
that it replaces Black Lives matter. I just say that
because you have this forum right now that we may
not have a Major League Baseball that we may not

(59:33):
have with the NFL, I just want them to max
it out because this is something that is affecting everybody,
right and you're right, but it takes the notice away
from something that we've been fighting for. The John Lewis,
Why doesn't have to take away Why can't you because everybody,
because Steve, everybody can't focus like that, right. And then
when you start to do that, you start the water
down the moments of what really matters at the moment

(59:55):
for our community. That's all I'm saying. So I'm not
saying you do this guard those things because listen, at
the end of the day, we're sitting here throwing away
food left and right, but there's people starving all around
the world. Right. Platforms are there all day long. You
don't You don't see um feed the African kid or
the the Russian kid or the Indian kid until like

(01:00:17):
three o'clock in the morning, right, and and all you
gotta do is give me a penny and they can
feed them for a month. You don't see that during
the day. You don't see it. So there's there's a
million platforms to be able to do certain things. It's
just that for us as as society in America and
for the black and brown community right now, this is
our stage and and in a positive way, we're just

(01:00:40):
trying to put it and embedded in people's head, just
like any other nationality, whether it's Jewish, whether it's light,
it's whether it's you know, Spanish, whatever it is, you're
just trying to implement. Put this in people's head that
this matters right at the moment for us, for us,
and not saying that when we see someone else struggling
for another since ration, but we won't lend a hand.

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That's not what we're saying. What we're saying is right now,
we have eyes and ears, whether they like it or not,
glue to what we're doing. And when you see that
social justice so systematic racism or black lives matter on
these jerseys and things like that, it's starting to get
inside your head. It's it's bringing a conversation whether it's
wrong or not, or uncomfortable or not for you in

(01:01:22):
your household. These are things that need to be talked about,
just for everybody in general. All right. On the other side,
I want to get into the update on college football.
Professional sports are one thing, college sports or another, and
we're getting more and more of the conferences setting up
conference only schedules when they want to start their season.

(01:01:44):
The harsh reality of college football will address coming up.
We're in the guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios. Let's
find out what's trending right now as we welcome back
Mr David Gascon. It's gonna be back with Sports On.
It's been a long time. So, I mean, I I
have a hundred per cent respect for what Patinos saying,

(01:02:05):
and I understand that. Um, I just feel like the
NBA because they seem to be the one professional team sport.
And I'm sorry, with all due respect to the NHL,
I mean the Big three, NBA, Major League Baseball, NFL
that seems they have the safest footing right now to
get through this, at least at the end of the season.

(01:02:27):
So we're gonna have a lot of eyeballs in the NBA. Certainly,
I don't want to detract from Black Lives Matter, but
I just want to add to it. I don't know
what you guys think about this, but I was I
made a good observation with the Lakers and Clippers of
the night. And I hate saying this because of revenue,
but I like the fact that the court has space

(01:02:50):
for these guys to wander off the court if they
take corner jump shots, like yeah, oftentimes you're worried about
crashing in the fans. You're worried about tweaking the ankle,
if you jam on the brakes, knocking over someone's food
or beer, whatnot. These guys can let open on a
corner three and not have to worry about falling on

(01:03:10):
somebody or scrambling for a loose ball out of bounds,
and they can do so with reckless avanna as opposed
to I'm gonna be cautious about what I do right now. Well,
I think they did a hell of a job. The
court looks cool. Yes, court definitely looks cool. I think
it's really appealing. And I hate to say that, but
I think the more space the better for these guys

(01:03:31):
because it's, yeah, like you're on ace. So what you're
saying is stop selling those floor seats so they got
a little elbow room or not necessarily the floor seats,
but push them back, push them back at least a
little bit. I mean, obviously the players are getting that
space right now. And who's to say that that won't
happen next year? There's no never body, you cat. I mean,
how many times did you crash into the seats you're

(01:03:52):
going after a loose ball or something? A few times?
A few times, right, a few times and obviously tweak
my ankle one time playing with the Rockets. Sure, and
I tweaked my ankle one time. H'm not on a cameraman,
but just um fans sitting Why don't they have to
be right on the court. I have sat in court
side seats. I had a friend of mine had clipper seats.

(01:04:12):
In fact, I saw you play court side. I was
literally in floor seats. And even being in those seats,
as cool as they were, you sort of feel like,
and aren't it a little too close here? It's just
really close. That's really close. I was Charles Dennis. They
kicking camera, guys. This is this is the one the

(01:04:32):
clips playing against your rockets, when y'all was on the
first of all, and when you're sitting in those seats
and you see y'all on the court, y'all chase after
a ball. We were in a lum. Y'all chased after
a ball the whole just like you are on your own.
We are not trying to catch you. When you see
someone dwarf Shaquille O'Neill, that was his late his cat,

(01:04:58):
it's like a thigh. Believable when you said it was
like that cannot be a human being. All right, what's
happening out there, David, guys right recess right now? Nuggets
lead the heat fifties seven and fifties six. Nicole Yokich
has fourteen points, five rebounds, and four assists right now
at the end of two quarters of play. A couple
of things, since you guys are on topic um off

(01:05:19):
the court. First off, Damian Lillard, he tweeked a muscle
that connects his pelvic bone to his abs during the
last night's game, but he played through it. He doesn't
plan on missing any games as well. And also how
about this Golden State Warriors had coached. Steve Kerr says
he regrets his previous dodging of questions related to China,
and he should have been more forceful defending Houston Rockets
general manager Daryl Morey's right to free speech. And if

(01:05:42):
you do recall, obviously the tweet with more sending in
that thing out and then Lakers Ford Lebron James shot
back at Morey's saying he wasn't educated on the situation
in hand, and those around the NBA should be careful
what we tweet and what we say and what we do.
So that was something Steve Curse said yesterday, uh college football,
seen you mentioned Steve. Indiana's football programmers doing volunteer workouts

(01:06:04):
after halting it for two weeks due to the coronavirus.
NFL news today, C J. Moseley has opted out for
the New York Jets playing here in due to health concerns.
Marquis Lee the same with the New England Patriots. He's
out of Major League Baseball. Brewers Lorenzo Kane has opted
out for this season Cardinals and Brewers has been postponed
because four more members of the Cardinals have contracted the coronavirus. Guys.

(01:06:28):
One thing on the ice, Carolina Leads and York Rangers
right now in the third period under two mints of
playing regulation three two is the score? Look at you
talking hockey. Guess I get it into somehow, So I
like that. All right, Thanks so much, David. Once again,
we're Comedy live from the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Easier to say fift cent a mare and the current
insurance a Geico go to guy Go dot com or

(01:06:49):
call eight under nine for seven otto. The only higher
part figuring out which way is easier. Alright, So with
Major League baseball starting, but definitely in jeopardy. The NBA
a season off and running looking good with their bubble.
The NFL, I only got problems as they try to
get their season started. And then we have college football

(01:07:10):
and Kat is someone that played your great good days
at Rhode Island and went on to the NBA. Colleges
are much different than professional sports. I mean, you cannot
apply the rules to college sports that you have for
professional sports. So around college football, we heard early on
the Big Ten and Pac twelves saying they were going
to play a conference only schedule. Then the a c

(01:07:33):
C said, where We're gonna play conference plus one non
conference game because they have a lot of good matchups
against SEC schools, you know, like Florida State Florida, you
know they have subpotential. Well that went out the window
when the SEC decided to go the route of the
Big Ten twelve and the UH the Big Ten and
they packed twelve with a conference only schedule. All right,

(01:07:57):
here's where we stand right now with the college football season. So,
by the way, these conferences, a lot of them are
saying they're gonna start their schedule in September. We have
other schedules going to start as early as August nine.
Let's let's let's end the charade. No college football on
the fall. It's it's not gonna happen. College campuses are

(01:08:22):
not even open to students. Many of them, the majority
of them, forget it, move it. You're just gonna have
to move it now. Are we guaranteed if we move it,
it's gonna be better in January or even in the spring.
Obviously they're no guarantees. But the idea of traveling with

(01:08:46):
college students during a college football season, keeping her eyeball
on dozens and dozens of college football players and what
they're doing and who they're hanging out with off the field,
it's not realistic at all, not even close. And by

(01:09:07):
the way, there's also logistics. I mean, when we talk
about legality here, if I have a son and he
gets seriously sick with COVID nineteen under your watch, I'm
coming after you, and I'm not gonna have my kids

(01:09:30):
signed some kind of waiver. Did you hear what the
SEC commissioner told everybody apparently on a conference call, Yeah,
you're there risks there, there's no guarantees there. Telling that
to the players, well, guess what, then my son is out.
I'm not putting my son at risk still his parents.
He's a college student. I don't care what kind of

(01:09:51):
you know, contractual obligation you think he has with that scholarship.
But no, I'm not signing a waiver or anything else
and putting my son at risk. I mean, I just
find this ridiculous. Forget it, postpone it, and hopefully we
could get it in the winter or the spring. But
the idea of everyone being on the same page for
a fall college football schedule not happening. I don't see

(01:10:14):
how you can pull it off. Get you know, listen,
it's hard for me. My son's twenty, my godson's even
my ten year old. Like it's it's it's hard in
my own house for my ten year old to like,
you know, when you're on campus, you're kind of liking
a young adult. Look at me. You know my kids,

(01:10:38):
you met them all, they're all three college kids. Yeah,
I mean, but it's it's it's hard, like, you know,
you got your princess, you got you, you have your princess,
right she when she gets to school, it's like you
can only do but so much as a parent, they're
a young adult now, so I don't like I I
agree with you, but then I'm staying on the other
side to it. You can't put so much pressure on
the administration, to coaches and all those few because even

(01:11:00):
if save it was no COVID and these kids were
going to school, partying late to night, going with friends, drinking,
doing whatever they do. I didn't do that in cause,
but whoever they do, you can't stop that. Like you can't.
You can't, you can't police it. There's no way. But
that's my point. So when when it's when this this
situation that's going on, it's it's like up to the

(01:11:24):
like the young adult now because it's just like it's
it's a part of life. You you have to you
gotta be responsible and figure it out. It's just like
any day if you you know, if I'm still staying
at mom and Dad's house and I'm going to the
grocery store, someone may not wash their hands, they taste
they touch something, blah blah blah. I don't know. Well here,
here's obviously the only reason we're having these announcements about

(01:11:47):
ten game schedules conference only it's all about money. You know,
this This is the dirty secret of so many of
these professional athletes make up make millions of dollars when
they play, and then within a couple of years of
retirement or broke, no money left because guess what, when
they leave this sport, they're not making millions of dollars,

(01:12:11):
and the skill set they had developed to make all
that money, it's not gonna make them that kind of money.
Outside of it. A few few make some decent money
as announcers. That's a very very small, small fraction. So
what's happened to these universities is they've been just spending
all this money. It's been rolling in college football, college basketball.

(01:12:32):
Look at this, it's a gold mine. We build buildings,
we got all this movie. Who would have ever dreamt
that it would ever end or stop even for a
single year. They're desperate. They won't survive even a single year.
Cancelation of college football could wipe out athletic departments around

(01:12:55):
the country because they didn't prepare for this. They've just
been spending, spending, spending, all these millions of dollars pouring
into these universities. The gravy train will never stop. Well,
it might be unpaused and they're not even prepared for that.
That's why we're even talking about somehow jamming in any

(01:13:17):
college games they can, even if they put their so
called student athletes at risk. It's it's just too hard
to really you can have an opinion of what should
be done, but it's really too hard to control something
of this magnitude, especially when you have so many people. Right,

(01:13:40):
it's not one or two, it's the thousands of people
that can there's a hundred and thirty fps put my
hands up, I have no I it's just a hard
it's a hard thing. I mean, listen, controlling kids in
one house is hard. My daughter, I mean she has

(01:14:01):
stuff in her room, my room, bathroom, this closet, grandma room, everything. Well,
you know my my ex Denise, and you know she polices.
We know, those three kids of mine, their mother knows
where they are at all times. She knows who they're
associating with, where they are, and they're not taking any

(01:14:23):
unnecessary chances. I mean, that's you know, that's what most
families are trying to do right now. Not everyone has
the means to sort of keep an eyeball on everybody
is obviously, we can't even do that as such a
hard thing. It's such a it's it's such a hard thing.
But they're not a lot of this to Steve comes

(01:14:43):
down to discipline and how many people have that self
You are one of those people that, even in a
college age, had that self discipline. That's rare, very rare.
You are not like all your teammates. Can I safely
say that at Rhode Island? No, I mean you took
it seriously from the get Yeah, because exactly that's just

(01:15:04):
my nature. I'm crazy like that. It's not crazy. You know,
more people have to do that. All Right, we're in
the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. I know a
lot of people are baseball fans out there and they're
anxious for an update. Are we going to get through
the season? What's the next step? We'll tell you coming
up next, Steve Harmon and Katina Moubili coming alive from

(01:15:26):
the Guy Go, Fox Sports Radio Studios. Are you pulling
double duty this weekend? I'm like you, wow, Well, but
so you're gonna be back tomorrow. I'll be back tomorrow.
Look at you. I like it very very good. All right,
I'm uh no days off? There you go off the

(01:15:51):
more to marry you people cookies. I get this question
all the time, like, how do you do it seven
days a week, year after year after year, seven days
a week of what we all live our lives, right,
I mean, even if you have a supposed day off,

(01:16:13):
you're doing things right. Well maybe or not. Maybe you're
just laying there all day long. I can't. I can't
do that for any period of time. I mean, i'mlike
anybody else. I don't mind kicking back watching the game,
watching a movie, doing something like that. I can't do
it all day long. You know, it's been nice since
the NBA restarted, is a lot of the games have

(01:16:34):
been very close. Yes, yesterday's game, Yeah, what was that
Jazz and uh well Rockets MAVs was insane? Yeah, none
of Pelicans Jazz Pelicans the first two games because the
Lakers was after that one. Yeah, yeah, Celtics, Bucks went

(01:16:56):
down to the wire. Hold on secondary. So I wanted
to talk baseball, and you guys are talking NBA, which
basically hold on a second hair. That's answers everything I
need to know about baseball. So basically, basically, are we
all a green hair? Baseball should just go away. We
don't care you don't care, right, I mean, you're a
baseball guy baseball. Gascon wants to can we just say

(01:17:18):
goodbye to baseball? Negative? What's wrong with you? Steve Well?
I don't know. I'm like, I think that Gavin was
a baseball fan. Apparently not a pitch in the first
baseman two and six and you got trout on paternity leaves?
Have you ever gone back? Gas Gun knows the seat.
The MLB season isn't over until the Dodgers leaves the

(01:17:38):
World Series. I was I was center field my first year, right,
and then my stepfather was like, I want you he
was a catcher. I want you to play. Picture you
left handed, natural natural? I get out there. Man. I'm like, listen, ah,
this is too much. This is too much for me.
It's boring. I can't I can do much time to
think back there. Yeah, but if if you had to

(01:17:59):
compare your okay, look at your NBA career, Like if
you had that same talent for Major League Baseball and
he had a choice, would you rather play in the NBA?
Would you rather play Major League Baseball? Really? Not even
with all that money involved. Listen, it's not even about
the money. Think about this guy, how many guys are
you going to get to play with you? I can

(01:18:20):
go I'm from Philadelphia, Okay, so in the nineties, right,
eighties and nineties, and you can walk up to a
park and his thousands of kids playing. Right. You can't
do that in baseball unless you in Cuba over then
you can play over the line. Right. And if you
guys do that, you know what I mean? I mean,
how many games you're gonna play a day? But it's

(01:18:40):
not saying what were doing. I've always said this gascon though,
if if, and I mean having a conversation with Dave Winfield,
the great Hall of Famer, who could have played any sport.
He played college basketball. He was one of those insane
athletes ultimately chose baseball. He played twenty two years. Twenty
two years. You look at Jackie Robinson and right, he

(01:19:02):
was a fourth sports start U c l A. Baseball
was his worth s more. He wasn't even close. He
was much better football player basketball. Dave Winfield. I just
said Dave Winfield. Dave wild played. He was drafting all
these different sports, but he played baseball because he knew,
yeah six ft six that he knew that he could
play it longer and ultimately after he had to have

(01:19:25):
less wear and tear on his body after it was
all over, and we get Dave Winfield on the show today.
The football between football and the most creative sport for
an individual is basketball. Yeah, but the most difficult to
play is baseball because if he can't hit a curveball,
you have no chances. And four fact it is four
fact baseball is so difficult. But me playing football, me boxing,

(01:19:48):
me playing basketball, tennis. Basketball is the most creative with
that ball. You can do anything you want, anything you
want on both sides, right, you can back. It's just
I don't know. By the way, quick update on baseball
the Phillies. Remember the Phillies were brought down because of
the Marlins. They haven't played all week long. They're now

(01:20:10):
optimistic that their last two positive COVID nineteen tests, which
was the coach in the clubhouse attendant, were false positives.
Oh that's right, the old false positives. We heard that
in NASCAR. Remember Jimmy Johnson claimed when he tested positive,
it was a false positive. See, we still don't even
have a hundred percent certainty that all these tests are
actually working accurately, which only adds to the confusion of

(01:20:34):
exactly how to deal with COVID nineteen. So I mean,
like baseball doesn't have enough problems without some you know,
false positive test out there. All right, we're in the
Guy Go Fox Sports Radio studios. You know what's going
on the NBA, and we're going to get through these
games and get to the playoffs. What's in star will
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(01:20:57):
Hartman and Mobili, we are coming alive from the Guy
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a free rate quote. I guess one of the big
questions as we restart the NBA season is how serious
everyone is taking this. We're watching the game right now

(01:21:18):
between the Heat and Nuggets. That's the first game of
the day. The Nuggets started the restart of the season
a game and a half behind the Clippers for the
number to slot in the Western Conference. So they're one
game back of the Clippers going into this game, and
yet several Nuggets starters sat out and they're losing by

(01:21:43):
thirteen right now with a minute and half to go
in the third quarter. So I guess my question to
you is continue these games right now, these eight extra
regular season games, and why are these games even being
played right Well, they to talk about, well, mathematically, some
of these teams still had a shot, even if it

(01:22:05):
was an outside shot, of making the playoffs. So we
included him, and that had nothing to do with this.
This is about three million dollars in revenue and televising
these games. So I guess it does bring up the
question of like, how seriously do we take these So
I'm looking at the West right now, think about this.
So the Lakers basically have the one seed wrapped up,
and the eight seed is either going to be the Grizzlies,

(01:22:27):
maybe the Blazers. You know, there's a chance, remember there's
a chance of a nine eight match up, whatever that is.
But here's where we are, two to seven right now
in the West. All right, here are the teams. I'm
gonna get your low down. So as we sit there
right now, the Clippers are one game ahead of the Nuggets.
The Nuggets are one game ahead of the Jazz. The
Jazz are one game ahead of the Rockets. The Rockets

(01:22:49):
are a half game ahead of the Thunder, and then
the Thunder a two games up on the Mavericks. So
let's get back to a matchup. If you're a seed
or a three seed the difference there. So, if you're
the Clippers as a two seed as opposed to a
three seed in the first round of the playoffs, would

(01:23:11):
you rather see the Mavericks or would you rather see
the Thunder? Who would you rather see in a matchup?
Staying into two seeds? So right now, because you are
the two seed, you'll face the Mavericks, But if you
drop to a three seed, you'll face the Thunder. Is
there a difference there between the Mavericks and Thunder if
you're the Clippers, Um, it is a little difference because

(01:23:34):
you gotta think about okay, see right, okay, see has
great guard play, and when you have really great guard
play with high i Q like they have a leaded
by Chris Paul, it's it's very troubling. It's you know,
it's very troubling for the Clippers because he could put
Chris Paul could put you in awkward positions defensively. What

(01:23:55):
about their Bermuda triangle defense though with Patrick Beverley i MP.
But then because then these guys are over helping and
he's leaving someone else open. But then you look at
Dallas where you have a big guard that stud and
uh Luca and the pick and pop prozingis so that

(01:24:16):
stretches the Clippers is Lucas and guardable? Is there any
matchup for a guy like Luca? You can't guard Luca?
He's big, smart, Uh, you know, But with the Clippers,
I don't really think the Clippers. This playoffs are about matchups,
and the Clippers have a playoff team, especially with this
day and age, the way guys play, you're the average

(01:24:39):
six six six seven. Remember also Thursday there was no Mantras, Harrold,
no Lou Williams arguably the two best six men in
the league. So add them to a very deep roster.
What do you think of the addition of Noah, he's
so smart? How about the addition of Morris? He's good.
I like him too, He's office and philist. Team. But

(01:25:04):
it's about it now. Now having the deepest team can
hurt you too, because remember porting the trouble Lakers back
in like two thousand, they were the deepest team, most talent,
Steve Smith, Scottie Pippen, you had Jermaine O'Neil, she Wallace.
You had all the types of guys and you still
couldn't win Jimmy Jackson. There's so many guys on the team.
Sometimes it's about who's going to sacrifice their time and

(01:25:29):
commit to just being a role player because you have
so many guys that think their stars. Now Joakim Noah
doesn't think he's a star, you know, Morris doesn't think
he's a star. They're great role players. Um, but you
know the three stars on that Clipper team is Kauai,
Paul and Lou and then everybody else's you know that

(01:25:51):
Montres is right there with kind of like being a
star as well, and then everybody else is like filling
the blank kind of thing right for that Rob But
to my stars, right, not a star, but he's invaluable. Yeah, no,
for sure. I mean I remember when he was hurt
and uh, you know they were struggling, you know, because
he's kind of like they're they're engine Yeah exactly, He's like, yeah,

(01:26:13):
he's that guy. He's you know, uh as great as
Paul George's defensively and Kawhi Leonard. They still they're not
the Rob Roy guys exactly. So Beverly's that raw rock
get everybody hype kind of things like Fish back in
the day with the Lakers, Yeah, gets you know, things
can kind of do that to you and it hypes

(01:26:34):
everybody else up. And then you had the leaders. Kobe Bryant, right,
was d Fish an annoying player to go against on
the court For me, No, because he was accused of maybe,
you know, pushing it a little bit all for the
good of the team. I was more of a bigger
so I'm I'm posting Kobe up. Yeah. So it was
like they put Rick Fox on me. You didn't hear

(01:26:55):
any other teammates the Lakers and they weren't talking there
all right. Um the Rockets, the Rockets are always an
intriguing team. And by the way, James Harden picking up
where he left off putting up forty nine, they were
what down seven with something like okay, what what what?

(01:27:17):
What's Well? What's different about James Harden is no one
in the history of basketball has ever held the ball
longer than he does. I mean he literally just holds
the ball. It's hard for I mean, did you see
his like step back three numbers? I Mean they're off
the charts of how many times he throws up a
step back three, how many times he basically hangs onto

(01:27:38):
the ball, the number of dribbles double of any other
play in the league. It's unreal. And yet Westbrook is
still putting up some representative numbers. Not triple doubles, still
up there, energies. So what do you think now? I
mean is that a lot of people were hesitant. They
weren't sure how it was gonna work with two guys

(01:27:58):
that dominate a bat basketball to the level of Westbrooken herten.
How's it working right now? And how does it project
for the Rockets heading to the playoffs? You know, it's
it's a weird thing, right, It's it's James is now
stuck in that you know, kind of like one on
one mode, which is incredible to see just as a
basketball player and as a basketball fan to see what

(01:28:20):
someone can do with that ball like he does. Um.
But I think when it comes to, you know, the playoffs,
I would have to see more gel with James and
Russell because both are streaky guys. Right, you don't have
a Stephen Curry or you know, uh, Clay Thompson where

(01:28:41):
you got knocked down shooter in one of the two, right.
They they're rhythm guys. They need the ball, they need
to dribble the ball, they need to do things like that.
So I don't know if it's going to mesh well
and series games where you know, James may be hot
and then Russell's just catching shooting, or Russell hot and
James just catching shooting. I don't know. I don't think

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that's going to happen. Last night in their overtime when
unbelievable game against the Mavericks, Harden has forty nine points,
nine rebounds, eight assist. Westbrook thirty one points, eleven rebounds,
eight assists. Westbrook actually took ten more shots than hardened
he scored. Harden scored forty nine points on twenty field

(01:29:24):
goal attempts, and he was only three and nine from
three point land. He always to me ask about those
free throws, always okay s, you know, And this goes
all the way back. I remember Adrian Dantley back in
the day. He's the last guy to lead the league
in scoring who actually made more free throws that season
the field goals, last guy to do that. Does Harden

(01:29:47):
just get calls automatically? I mean I mean, how legitimate
are all these times of the free throw line when
it comes to James Harden or does he get that reputation?
They just automatic and when we've seen obviously from the
one NBA stars get more calls than the regular guys.
But it's hard and taking the next level as far
as whistle blow, it's not hard, and it's literally brilliant.

(01:30:09):
It's it's where he's placing the ball right, he's placing
the ball. I learned it from Debtor Strip. I don't
know if James learned it from me, but just putting
your putting the ball through people arms and making contact
while they're moving or their bodies a certain way. It's
a lot of geometry and uh in this where there's

(01:30:31):
angles that you have to attack the offensively when the
defense is you know, out of position, or uh, just
in general like putting your hand in a cookie jar.
And James knows how to you know, manipulate the the situation.
And it's not a bad thing. It's it's just a
part of the It's a part of the game. So
if you can't adjust to a part of the game,

(01:30:51):
then so be it. But he seems as though he's mastered.
You know, uh when people put stick in their hands
and the canny in the in the cookie jar. Huh, yes, Sam,
what do you got for quickly on fouls? So on
July twenty if Steven Adams he was like, well, with
no fans in the stands, he think he thought there
would be more technical fouls. Okay, a couple of games
in have you guys seen that to be true at all?

(01:31:14):
Because like, let you can hear the players more ma'am
grumbling under their breath or something, you know. I I again,
we're early in the process. Once we get to the playoffs.
I again, what's most important here for the NBA is
one they don't want to take their stars off the court. Okay,
we're trying to get eyeballs right now. So these are

(01:31:34):
I mean, these are real games, but they're not real
important games. Let's put it that way. So let's referee
Scott just text somebody the other day. Who was that?
I forget who it was. I think I think these
officials have been pretty much saying, look, we we got all.
Everyone's sort of getting their feet back, they're getting their

(01:31:55):
legs back. We're trying to get the season started. Let's
not go over the top here, I'm and they I
haven't seen. I've seen a lot of guys seemingly get
away with a little bit more, which is probably reason
these games are so high scoring right now. Um, they're
they're letting things go defensively, so guys are taking advantage.
Every one of these games. The scoring is out of control.

(01:32:15):
That's why I told I told you. I talked to
my book guy and he's like, we are getting killed.
People are just pounding the over on these NBA games
and they're all over. Wasn't the idea that we're going
to have really sluggish basketball when it's the defense might
be in the office. I mean, Gavin, how much money
have you raked in betting the over? If you had
bet Gavin? Have you been betting the over on every

(01:32:36):
single NBA game? Because if you actually he would be
able to retire right? Last night was insane. In fact,
we had a guest on with the Jason mcnell show,
who win eighteen to know basically, um on betting overs
in first half all these Yeah, um, but I did
that the under in the Laker game. I want some
money on that. Um. But yeah, no, it's it's been exciting. Yeah,

(01:32:59):
very are interesting there. All right, we're in the Gutta
Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. We'll continue on talking about
a potential matchup in the upcoming NBA playoffs. I can't
wait to hear what cat Mobile has to say coming
up next. Can't wait. Steve Hartman and Catino Mobile, we
watched some NBA. Keep our fingers cross about Major League Baseball.

(01:33:21):
We'll hold off on the NFL because until they can
get their act together and we'll just have to wait
and see. But we do have the luxury talking some
NBA right now. I want to get to a potential
playoff matchup that I would love now if you listen
to this show or my local show. I made a

(01:33:41):
big deal that I had tickets for the Lakers Rockets
game on March twelve. That was the first game that
was canceled. It took me over three months, but I
finally got my refund, so I'm all good with that.
But I'm still not good with a chance they didn't
get to see that game because the game before between

(01:34:02):
the Lakers and the Rockets. You remember that game, Katino
or the Rockets had that short lineup, Remember that they
had like nobody tall on the court, and they just
shot lights out and beat the Lakers. All right, So
let's take a look at a rematch. Potentially, let's say
in the second round, Rockets could be a four or

(01:34:23):
five seat. Let's get say they get passed the Jazz
by the way, how how would that series for the
Rockets Rockets Jazz series best out of seven? Can the
Jazz beat the Rockets? Who do you like in that series?
Rockets Jazz best of seven? I would have to go,
I love, I love the Jazz defense this top of

(01:34:43):
the league. And you know Rudy's he's clogging paints. But
with the Rockets, the way they spread you out, yeah,
it won't be James and Russell. It'd be someone else
beating you to get Rudy out of that paint or
get him in foul trouble. I just I have to
stay with um uh the Rockets just because their guard

(01:35:07):
plays so strong, well they basically play. Remember they don't
have a center, so you had House. I mean we're
talking about Westbrook and Harden. In this game against the Mavericks,
House is the guy that actually took the most three
point shots. He was six of twelve from three point land.
So that's what they do. They take forty eight three

(01:35:27):
point shots in this game. So if you have this
Rockets team against the Lakers, you know you got Tucker
and Covington doing the big man work, and then you
got House Westbrook Harden. They don't have a deep bench.
We got rivers, he got guys shooting. McLemore was four
for four threes the other night. Um, I mean they

(01:35:48):
just got shooters. I mean that is their game. Covington
was one for nine shooting threes. I mean that's all
they do. They have. Everybody on this team is shooting three. Everyone.
They had eight players in a game that won overtime,
and everyone took at least three point three three point shots.
Everyone made at least one. So a team like that

(01:36:11):
against the Lakers, No, Avery Bradley, second round, You're not
gonna have a Rondo. He's not gonna be back in time.
Would you be nervous? How would the Lakers handle? Give
me give me a Scotty report. Here, your Vogel. You're
Jason Kidd, you're on that coaching staff right now. What
is your game plan if you're the Lakers taken on

(01:36:33):
that Rocket team? Well, because because see, the Lakers have
something different than everybody else. They have length. Right, you're
a jabl McGee. You have Anthony Davis, you have Lebron James,
Brenny Green, you have Mars, you have you have guys
on that floor. You have j R. Smith that's coming right.
You have guys that can play one or two move

(01:36:54):
three moves until the other teammate helps. And I'm surprised
you didn't mention your favorite Laker. Who's your favorite Laker?
You just we're talking about him on TV? No, no, no,
you know who? You said? I love this man's game
on the Lakers, Ron James. What? No, no, no, who

(01:37:15):
did I say? And I'm gonna let it slide. How
quickly you forget your favorite role player for the Lakers.
Oh yeah, gosh, Alex, Yeah, God, he's so good. Listen
Crusoe like he he just does alright. Okay, so again,
your strategy against the team that has all these guys

(01:37:37):
shooting threes? What role does the guy like Alex Caruso
play if the Lakers are matched up against the Rockets? Well,
I mean he's perfect, right, he can switch everything, He
plays defense, he doesn't give up and listen, every do.
You have one of the best all time scores ever,
and James Harden, I mean he's just he's just amazing
at it. And then you have a one man fast

(01:37:58):
break in Russell Westbrook. You have to be this one right,
you get back into paint with Russell and James is
more so gonna walk it up, but didn't like law
you to sleep. So you have to understand those personalities.
And when James is there, you shrink. You shrink the floor.
That's what Tom Tiboto, you should tellus, shrink the floor.
So let him see that some guys are open. And
once he passes that ball, then we you know, we uh,

(01:38:20):
we go out to the perimeter. But I just I
like the Lakers because they're just so much bigger. Yeah,
but I at the same time, for instance, like the
other night, Paul George was eating up Danny Green. Danny
Green is not big enough to cover Paul George. He's
just not. I mean, you can you can have Lebron

(01:38:43):
work a lot of different guys. And as you said,
we didn't really see Quiet a hundred percent. I mean,
he was obviously not the Quiet we expect to see
in the playoffs. The one thing because Lebron James offensively
wasn't The Lakers, though, take more advantage of Anthony Davis.
I mean, there is nobody in this league, nobody the

(01:39:04):
matches up with Anthony Davis. Yeah, but he's got to
be more assertive with five six minutes ago he disappears
on me. What was that? Because I mean, does it
bother you when you had thirty? But but he didn't
shoot the ball that well. They double team in him.
They're running people at him and try to throw him off.
Why is he standing at the three point line? That's

(01:39:26):
just that's day and age. That's just what it is
right now. I mean, seriously, when you came into the
league twenty years ago, did you ever think you could
see the NBA? We're essentially no one is standing on
the page. I don't did you everythink you'd see this?
If I'm I'm I'm looking at the teams right now,

(01:39:46):
right so I'm looking at the teams. Let me just
break it down really quick, even Dallas, Mavericks, Houston Rockets ups.
While I was with Memphis, San Antonio, Sacramento, Phoenix, Denver, Minister,
like you look all those teams back when I played

(01:40:08):
all seven footers. Yeah, they were not shooting threes that
they were in the paint, so it was harder for
us to get to the paint. How would yell Ming
fit in today? I don't think y'all it's just just
standing at the three point line. Well, yeah, it's standing
at three point line one and y'all was yet a
great shot. I don't understand this. If nobody when we

(01:40:31):
talked about rim protectors, who's going to the rim? And
by the way, when players do go to the ram,
like James Harden, there's nobody there. It's it's it's troubling.
It's super troubling to watch wherever there's literally there's literally

(01:40:52):
no you. Tim Duncan, David Robinson, I mean, Steve frances
and I will get in that lane and you when
you dodge one, there's another one right there. Right. You
go to Sacramento, there's Vlady Divakan's Chris Webber. You go
to I mean Minnesota, this KG right, Well, you were

(01:41:13):
you know, you came in right at the end of
the nineties, since either early two thousand's, you know, if
you come in the league, asked Jim Jackson. I've sat
here with Jim Jackson when he came in the league
and ninety two, Holy moly. I mean it was a
blood bath. I mean you if you got inside, man,
you're putting your life on the way. They beating you up,
throwing you down. I think I broke my ribs, cracked

(01:41:36):
my ribs, shock Karl Malone, my rookie second, my first second,
I might have broken cracked my ribs. I don't know
how many times with Karl Malone and Shaquille O'Neil. Oh,
and do you remember Big Dog? His name It was
a Utah Jazz big Dog. They call him big Dog Robinson. Gosh,
what's his name? Oh wait a second, why a big dog?

(01:41:57):
He wore glasses, he wore um. He was so big
and strong. Yes, I hit him one time, and I'm
a physical person. He was listened at six. He was

(01:42:19):
solid um. But that it's it's not that game anymore.
I don't know, I I I miss some of that,
I I really do. I mean sometimes he got out
of hand, but that wasn't necessarily bad. I mean, it
was the early nineties especially, and it was all pat Riley.
That was that was the joke of the matter, was
here was Riley with the showtime Lakers, and then he

(01:42:42):
goes to the Knicks and they were like the Pistons
on steroids. I mean he did what the what the
Pistons did with Anthony Mason and Starks and Oakley. I
mean it was and you and I mean it was
like whoa, it was fight time. It was Friday night fight.
I mean that was the most physical basketball. You know

(01:43:07):
what he said, I'm gonna play with the guy give
Riley Kretti, this is what I got. I don't have
Magic Johnson on the court. I don't have James Worthy,
I don't have that. I'm gonna do what I might.
I'm gonna take this team. And you think the Pistons
were tough little choir boys compared to what we're gonna
put out there. All right, when the guy go Fox
Sports Radio studios, let's find out what's trending right now.

(01:43:30):
The guy that knows something about physical play, Daved Gascon.
You love those teams, right that physical NBA we have
way back in the day. Yeah, I mean, it'd be
nice if you could do a little bit of hand
checking to keep guys honest. I mean, you go from
the nineties to what we got now, there there are
times where Shock would drop step into somebody and he'd

(01:43:52):
be called for an offensive foul just because he's bigger
than the other guy. I've been see anything happens with
the Ron now too right, Well, I don't know. I
mean I I again, having everybody stand at a three
point line to me is not appealing basketball. And I
agree with that. But Lebron James when he goes to

(01:44:13):
the rack, right, just because he's bigger than most of
the guys in the league doesn't mean he's not getting fouled. Look,
there are guys that hacking him swipe at out. This
was a shock thing. Shack was fouled on every play,
every play. I don't even think that's fair. I mean
every single play. I mean, he is taking a beating,
but because he was so big, they just ignored it. Yes, Um,

(01:44:37):
I'll give you guys the chef's choice. Um, we got
sports and we got some social justice stuff with the
NBA and the NHL. What would you like to hear first?
Do you want to save the NHL for last? I
know you, I kind of want to say the NBA
for a lost Oh, go right to the hockey. Yeah,

(01:44:58):
And there's a reason for that. Um. Edmonton's Chicago are
playing right now in Edmonton, Oilers lead one nothing. But
prior to the game, Minnesota Wild defenseman Matthew Doomba or
Matt Doomba, he came out with a speech prior to
the national anthems that were being played. He's a Canadian

(01:45:19):
defenseman playing for the Minnesota Wild, but he had a
speech talking about social injustice, racism. He talked about Brianna Taylor,
and then when the national anthems were being played, he
kneeled the American national anthem and stood for the Canadian
national anthem. So he did that. Okay, um, I bring

(01:45:43):
that up because now we go to the NBA. UM.
I don't know if you guys heard about this, but
Oklahoma State Representative Sean Roberts had released a statement and
he said, talking about the Oklahoma City Thunder, you said,
and the NBA as a whole by kneeling during the
play playing in the national anthem, the NBA and its
players are showing disrespect to the American flag and all

(01:46:05):
it stands for. This anti patriarch act makes clear the
NBA support of the Black Lives Matter group and its
goal of defunding our nation's police, it's ties to the Marxism,
and its efforts to destroy nuclear families. He also added,
if the Oklahoma City Thunder leadership and players follow the
current trend of the NBA by kneeling to the national

(01:46:26):
anthem prior to today's game, perhaps we need to re
examine the significant tax benefits the state of Oklahoma grant
the Thunders organization when they came to Oklahoma through the
Quality Jobs Act. The Thunder is still under contract to
receive these tax breaks from our state until twenty four. Uh.

(01:46:49):
This is varies from state to state. I mean, this
is a Bible state, Oklahoma big time. So look you
run the rest. So far, the NBA seems okay with it.
I don't know, NBA. It's incredibly popular. I mean Jonathan

(01:47:12):
Isaac right, one player has stood for the anthem, So
they're doing the popular thing, as soon as it's not
popular in a state like Oklahoma, the Bible State. That
game has not gotten underway just yet because the Miami
Heat are blowing out the Denver Nuggets. Yeah, one seventeen,
so you can imagine a lot of attention will be

(01:47:33):
on that game once this one expires. Pelicans and Clippers.
Later on tonight, Lakers and Raptors as well. Guys in
the NFL, C J Mosley has opted out of the
season because the health reasons. So is the Patriots wide
receiver Marquise Lee. He is out. Major League Baseball Brewers
Lorenzo Kane announced he's opting out and the game between
the Cardinals and the Brewers has been postponed because of

(01:47:55):
at least four members of the Cardinals tested positive for
the coronavirus. Guys, there's actually reports being floated out there
right now that these four people we're at a casino
breaking protocol, not fact just yet, but there's a report
out that that it was the case. So anyways, Yeah,
we'll see what happens with the thunder if they wow

(01:48:16):
bend the knee here in the next couple of minutes. Interesting,
all right, we'll keep our eye on that, that's for sure. David,
Thank you very much. We're coming in live from the
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com or call in and an IF seven otto. The
only hard part figuring out which way is easier? Again,
Peaceful protest, and that's what it is. If you're taking

(01:48:40):
a knee during the national anthem, that is a peaceful protests.
That's what our country is built on. Is there a pushback? Yeah,
that's part of a protest. You're protesting something the way
it is. So the idea that everyone's gonna be on
the same page as you sort of kills You wouldn't

(01:49:00):
be protesting if everyone was on the same page, right,
that's the reason you're protesting. So there's gonna be pushedback
on the n B A, no question, there's gonna be
pushback on the NBA. It seemed that Adam Silver, the
majority of the owners, players, coaches. I wonder why the

(01:49:25):
same page? I wonder why I bother someone so much
what someone else does. Here, here's here's the argument. And
again I'm just I'm gonna just say what is being
what I hear and I and I try to expose
myself to every angle. Forget the argument part? Why inside
internally does it bother you whether I stand or whether

(01:49:46):
I kneel? Why does it bother you so much when
you've done truthfully nothing for your country? Okay, here, here's
here's the lawmaker for the records. I wouldn't say he's
done nothing here. I'm talking about in general. No, no, no,
but this lawmakers say that just because you a lawmaker
doesn't mean what does that what he's know But what
he's saying is this, Yeah, Gavin, here's the deal. So

(01:50:08):
you have Black lives Matter on the court. So that's
my point. But Black Lives Matter represents two things, two things.
There's Black lives Matter. The vast majority of Americans are
Black lives matter. Then there's the Black Lives Matter movement,

(01:50:30):
which to some represents defunding police chaos and a lot
of different things. That is their interpretation that there's two
things here. Do black lives matter, yes, but the Black
Lives Matter movement, to them is something completely different. Black
Lives Matter believes America is systemically racist. So you cannot

(01:50:51):
say I believe black lives matter, but I don't believe
we're a systemic, systemically racist country. They will reject you,
they don't want you. You're not invited. So this is
why opponents of the NBA campaigning Black Lives Matter on
the court, it says two different things to them. Black
lives matter, yes, yes, but the Black Lives Matter movement.

(01:51:18):
Not everyone is comfortable with that, and so I just don't,
you know, I don't listen. Forget him and his lawmaking
whatever it is. I don't know him, he don't know me.
I'm talking about in general, when something bothers you so much,
whether someone stands or they kneels, why does it bother
you so much? As a personally? I don't. My assumption

(01:51:40):
is it's about the Black Lives Matter message on the court.
I think it's about the messages on the player jerseys.
I think it's about the NBA bowing to a movement
that that that this person disagrees with. I think that's
what it's about. It's not about kneeling, you understand, it's
the branding one. I'm talking about in general, Why do people?

(01:52:02):
Why do things? Father? If if let me tell you something,
if I was never black, I can't tell you how
it is to be black. I can't tell you whether
it's systematic racism. I can't tell you nothing because it
doesn't affect me. If I wasn't that. So, if I
was a female and um, I had my monthly cycle
and I cramps or I get moody, or I get
everything like that, if I was never a female. I

(01:52:24):
can't say anything or how you should act as a person.
So for someone to go ahead and act or or
or or have an opinion about someone else they were
never or even never in the hood or never anything
like that, I just think that's it's not right. So
why does it affect you so much? That's all I'm saying.
Why does it affect you so much as a person.

(01:52:46):
I can't speak for him, I guess I'm going back
in general. In general, In general, people all my country,
my country, You've never at eight years old, you shouldn't
want to went to go fight, but you didn't, so
because you love your country and like, listen to the
reason why you can opt out. So people you cry
about jobs, go go fight. Then eighteen years old you

(01:53:07):
should go do something? Then what are you doing? What
if that person is taking care of their their sickly mother,
like mothers taken care of out of three hundred and
eighty million people, Listen, these excuses that we have in general,
I don't go for all I'm saying, right, there's there's opportunists,
and then there's people who you know, they have their
own opinions. Whatever the case is, whatever you. I like black,

(01:53:30):
you like white, I like U, take you like cookies,
whatever it is. But all I'm saying is, well you
if you are so adamant about what someone else does
or feels something deep down inside, that's psychological. But we
have to leave the avenue open to have this discussion
on both sides. The idea, because that's the thing got

(01:53:51):
all that heat for standing like it wants is missing
in a journalist game. The lady said it, and she
said and she she shouldn't have said it that way.
Whatever the case is. But again we get just like
in any word, words mean nothing unless you give it meaning.

(01:54:11):
So when we sit here and keep talking about the
girl Taylor, whoever she is, and she said this, Oh,
I can't believe she said it. We give everything so
much meaning. If you didn't give a serial killer or
a terrorist meaning and you put it on if you
don't put it on TV and not like that, there
they die about. And why are you giving meaning to
the lawmaker whoever you're talking about. I'm not giving a meaning.
I'm I'm giving a meaning. No, no, he we we

(01:54:36):
spoke about it. So then when I said, why does
it matter to people in general? Why we feel so
adamant about things like this, Why do we give it
so much power? She doesn't need that much power. Okay,
but again, the powers on both sides. This man, this lawmaker,
is saying what he's saying to provoke argument. Is he not?
In other words, he is provoked. This is again it's

(01:55:00):
a protest from the other side. It can't be a
one way street. We have to listen to all sides
all the time. Disagree, agree, whatever, that's part of it.
But you can't end the discussion. This idea of freedom
of expression has to go both ways. It has to.
This is this is the big problem we're having right

(01:55:20):
now with social media. They want to censor social media.
They are not happy with this. Maybe social media is
picking and choosing what they allow and not allow. I mean,
this is this is the idea it has to be.
If you're going to be fighting for freedom of expression,
then it has to be that. And this is true
for the NBA and by the way, those that are

(01:55:41):
critical of the n b A for Black Lives Matter,
they should be free to speak their mind. Doesn't mean
you have to change. And that's my point. I have
I have a whole bunch of super close. I mean
like family member, Jewish friends, Catholic friends, Muslims. This that
whatever we can agree to disagree, but to have so
much a motion about what some I just me leave it.

(01:56:03):
I'm not even talking about this lawmaker. I'm talking about
in general. Why do people care that Isaac stood up
or sat down or smoked or what? It doesn't Why
do you feel so adamant about these because you again,
their attitude is if you're not all in your against critical,
It's just like let the person be Muslim, let the
person be Jewish, that the person be Catholic, that the
person be whoever they are. Exactly. That's the It's a

(01:56:25):
little bit of a utopian thought though, like we we
live in a country where everyone has a thought on everything.
You go on Twitter, you know, every people are weighing
that what makes us the greatest country because everyone has
the freedom. Do not take that away from them, even
if he disagree. Do not let them take that away
from you? All right? All right, So here we are.

(01:56:46):
NBA's back, NHL's back, Major League bit, they're back. What's
the sports landscape gonna look like a week from now?
From the guy called Fox Furst Rady studios will tell
you coming up next. By the way, I haven't even
checked our Twitter accounts that a lot of people responding today.

(01:57:09):
What's a good Everyone has a right to say whatever
they is they want to say, but understanding of course
that people have the right to push back, and that's
what it's all about. We don't thank everybody today. Starting
with Iowa, Sam, Yes, so your home state of Iowa.

(01:57:31):
How things going there with the COVID nineteen not great?
And um still hoping there. They want schools to open
and they don't have a mask mandate. That the only
state to have those two conditions. Um, so they got
some things to figure out. I was talking to my
sister lives in Iowa, has for over thirty years. There's
a chance that one of her daughters may have She

(01:57:54):
got tested, a friend of hers got it. Okay, so
keeping our fingers crossed, but waiting on that test in Iowa. Yeah,
I know, I mean I was not exactly on the
forefront of the well. She she said she has some
like a head and nothing over the top, but because
her friend came down with it, she got tested. She
won't find out the results, by the way, till Monday.

(01:58:16):
If you want to socially distanced, Iowa is the place
to do it. Yes, one big Cornfield. That is basically
what it is, like, David Gascon, big day for you
all the start of the NHL season. I'm very happy,
But you want to cancel the baseball season, so I'm
not down. You cancel culture. I didn't cancel. I didn't see.

(01:58:38):
What I said was they need to shut it down
for a couple of weeks and let's get back to
a bubble situation. Now here's a question that you did
not not bring up at all. If things obviously go
to like any kind of quarantine where you go, like
to the spring training facilities, what would you do with
the Fall Classic? The Fall Class is going to have

(01:59:01):
to be on a neutral site wherever it's safest to play,
simple as that. By the way, if you have to
push it into November, you could have the Fall Classic
anywhere you could have it. And if you if you
would shut down for a couple of weeks, reorganize and
get bubbles set up in Arizona. Let's just say Arizona
for instance. But would you really want the World Series
in Boston or in New York in November? Well, No,

(01:59:23):
that's why you're everything's out the window. All you're trying
to do is get a baseball season in where the
games are played and everything. Why does it matter if
the games are played, if all the ballparks are empty,
what's the matter. There's no home field advantage, is there? No?
I don't know. If you're a Phillias fan or a

(01:59:43):
Red Sox fan, you might you might have an argument.
Let's there some Look at the bottom line is you've
got to get the season in right, otherwise baseball is
in real trouble, so cancel it again just to throw
out all the rules. And now they're talking about seven
inning games and doubleheaders. I mean, they're just they're making
up the rules as they go. It's also almost absurd.
And there's Gavin who was just pounding all these overs

(02:00:06):
on the NBA so that he can get a lot
of money in his pocket. You can really make out
like a bandit here, like handy money out. I put
a few shekels on the Trailblazers whin I obviously I
gotta go Clippers, stay with my guy Kauai. And then
I also did some Celtics, but I don't know. After
the last night. Not I'm not sure I'm feeling that.
All right, So Katino, we're watching a little okay, see Utah.

(02:00:30):
Right now, it's amazing how how good Chris Paul is,
like just not even talking about So why has he
never gotten to the NBA finals? Listen, Well, it's not
just it's not just his fault, like's not well, I'm
not saying that, but I mean you would think as
great a player as he is, an obvious first ballot

(02:00:50):
Hall of Famer, that you may get to the NBA
Finals at least once, like even Barkley got there once,
right hopefully. I mean, is there something miss seen in
his game that doesn't translate once you get to the
games that matter most. I'm asking you he had he
had an emotional team with those Clippers, those Glad Blake
and DeAndre and that team have gone further than they did.

(02:01:11):
I think they should have. Yeah, I think they should have.
They had they had a really good squad. And how
much is that on Chris Paul? Yeah, you can only
do but so much though you have some liability. I'll
see you tomorrow, Cat,

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