August 4, 2024 • 16 mins
Guest host Connie Willis and author Diane Satterfield discuss encounters with the supernatural.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now, this is in Kentucky. This is where I grew
up too. I had a haunted house. I grew up
in a haunted house. And it's always interesting, Diane, that
there's always people in the house that have Nope, I've
never noticed anything. I've never heard anything. I've never seen anything.
And there's other people in the house. Oh yeah, lots
of stuff. You know, you hear things, you see things.
(00:26):
So I totally understand that. And do you have any
conclusions of why that might be.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, the first thing is I realized there are monsters
in the closet and under the bed. Yes, to my core.
It took the naivety of you know, ghosts don't exist,
you know they don't and they can't scare anyone. And
(00:55):
then you know, we had other ones. I had other
haunted houses I worked in and lived in. And so
after writing my book and I had to examine a
lot of things about who were we and we went
through a pretty dysfunctional life. My children had to and
I did, and my husband had to. He really really
(01:18):
couldn't help that. But after everything happened because of that
then I feel like God did hear my prayers. And
I had several angelic encounters and I thought, Okay, maybe
there are bad things in the world, but there are
(01:39):
also angels. And I thought, of there are angels and
there's a God. And so it took years to come
to grips with Okay, even the horrible things make us
who we are, and it shows that we are important.
We matter no matter you know what your state of
(02:04):
life is. And so that's what I came to the conclusion.
In my family, we are important, we matter, and no
one is unreachable. And sometimes you don't want certain things
to reach you, but the good things can outweighs the bad.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And there were some of those angelic encounters well.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
In nineteen seventy eight we had when we left that house,
we went to a little apartment and I just said, well,
nothing never liked that happens, that doesn't exist, and I
pushed all that on my mind and it was we
were free. And then we moved one more time, rented
(02:47):
a little house and everything seemi going real well, and
my husband got another job that he liked and he
was starting a night work and he I was waiting
for him to come in. One morning, I kind of
woke up and I was thinking, it's about time, and
all of a sudden, the foot of the bed shook.
(03:09):
It shook, and I started crying because it was back.
It had followed us, and I couldn't believe it. Connie,
I couldn't believe this couldn't exist in a normal world.
But it did. And then one night we were lying
in bed and my husband was home and something hit
(03:32):
the wall really hard in the living room, and Chris,
from his room the room he said, Molly, something hit
the wall. And I got up and I looked in
on them and they were all in their bed and
asleep except for Chris. And I walked in the living
room and my zipple lighter I smoke at that time,
(03:54):
a heavy zipple lighter was on the floor, and I
knew it had following something had thrown that with such
a force it sort of just vibrated through the whole house.
And I just told him it's okay, my lighter just fell.
And I really don't think he believed that. He, you know,
he was pretty scared looking, but I warned him to sing.
(04:17):
Things like that don't exist. And so that started with
the bed shaking, and I was under that. You know,
I'm not scared. I walked in the dark to go
get my landlord, and I've done things before, but under
that threat of that invisible thing, I was just vulnerable
(04:38):
and weak, and it knew it. And I hated it.
I hated myself and I hated it because I was
so vulnerable and scared and I just I thought, you
can't live like this, This can't be happening. And about
that time, we joined the little church and I was
(04:59):
singing some and we were going out one night's church
and my friend and my husband and my daughter stood
around the kitchen table kind of talking. We were getting
ready to leave, so I picked up my youngest daughter
in my right arm. I picked up my person, my guitar,
and my left hand, and I put some hills on
(05:19):
and we were going out to the car because we
were getting ready to go. And the porch had three
high concrete steps and it had an asphalt driveway. And
as soon as I took that first step, I realized
I was unbalanced and I was gonna fall, and I
had my little daughter in my arm, and I in
(05:40):
those seconds, I thought, hell, am I going to get
rid of the other things to help her, because we
were going to fall on these steps. And right then
a strong hand caught my right shoulder and pressed on
it and it stayed there until I caught my balance
and everything my balance. I couldn't believe it, and I
(06:03):
went on down the steps, and I, you know, was
kind of giggling and relief. And I turned around to
see who had come out, and Keith or my husband,
and nobody was there. And I said, out loud to
my little daughter, just out loud, I said, how did
they get back in the house so fast? I couldn't
believe this whirl wind saved from this high porch, you know,
(06:27):
And I put everything down to her and I came
back in the house and they were still standing around
the table, and I said, who came out just now?
And they said nobody. And I said, no, who came
out of the house right now? And they're kind of
wondering and they said nobody. Why And I said, because
I was falling and somebody caught me. And they said, really,
(06:49):
you know, they just I diadn't know what say. They
knew I was serious, and so we went on the church.
But that's funny Connie. I didn't tell really. I think
I told them my cousin because I knew she would
believe me. But I didn't tell hnybody. I just I
didn't talk about the bad things. And then this, because
that was so beautiful, I kind of I didn't know
(07:11):
what to think about that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Did you actually feel the hand?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yet? It stopped me from falling as I was standing
there losing my balance, It just right on my shoulder,
just a strong hand. And that's what I couldn't believe.
How did you know my husband or my friend come
out and catch me like that? So that's what I
was amazed at at first. And then I couldn't believe.
How did they get back in the house And they
(07:37):
came out and saved me and they ran back in
the house. I couldn't believe it, and no one came out.
And yes, it saved me from falling with my little daughter.
Maybe it would have given me a head injury, maybe
it could have killed her. You know, we were it
was a very dangerous situation. And yes, and I'll never
forget that, and I'll never you know, I believe it
(08:00):
was a guardian angel, although that's hard to believe. Sometimes
you know, I think could it could have guardian angel
actually touched me, you know, saved me, but there aren't
many other explanations for it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, that's what they're there for, right, guardian angels. Now,
was it like a big hand? Was it warm or
did you notice anything else?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I thought I just thought it was my husband or
our friend Keith. It was just seemed like a big hand.
I thought it was one of them, that it had
to be one of them, just you know, their actually
caught me. But it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's nice. That's a nice one.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yes, yes, And I have several others around at the
same time. And may I think maybe because we needed prayers,
we needed help because something was following us and we
had enough problem in our life, sadnesses with the marriage.
You know, it's still still hanging on, but not good.
(09:05):
And I went to bed one night, we both went
to sleep. The children were asleep, and he always fell
asleep quickly, and I'm a night out and I closed
my eyes and I thought, you know, I needed to
go to sleep. And I opened my eyes and there
was an angel floating probably three or four feet off
(09:26):
the ground, and it was a blonde haired angel, a
child and you know, I always hear how in each
culture they usually see if they see an angel, it
fits their culture, and that makes sense. You could say, well,
you're just you saw a picture, but I think it
(09:48):
makes more sense that you see things in your culture
that's familiar to you. And so this little angel had
the wings pulled back, it had blonde here had a
like a glowing halo. I could see that on its hair,
and its gam seemed to be electrified. And when I
(10:10):
was growing up, I thought of Guardian angels as kind
of a white robe, but just kind of plain. And
this little angel had a blue band around its waist
that kind of waved in the air in the back,
and it had a pink sash over and I couldn't
I could not believe it. I couldn't fathom it. And
(10:30):
its legs were tucked under and its hands were together.
And so I did what they say to do. I
sat up and I pinched myself. I thought, that's I'm
just gonna pinch myself. And it stayed. It stayed, and
it was so to put it in words, I couldn't
(10:52):
believe it. And I thought about just reaching over and
trying to wake my husband up. But I thought, I
don't wanted anything to make the school away ever, I
could sit there forever there it's this little angel. And
as it stayed there, you know, I took it all in.
I took it all in, and then it was gone.
(11:16):
And it didn't fade away, it didn't blink away. It
was just gone. And I set up all night. I couldn't.
I could barely comprehend it, and and it just seemed
too too wonderful, too wonderful, And so that was kind
of like, why are the the evil things coming? And
(11:37):
then how are we so blessed to have these guardian angels?
And I'm very naive tone it sounds so funny. I
was thinking of what was it doing. It's eyes were
closed and had its hands up. And then finally it
hit me. I had been asking people for prayer, pray
for us. Oh, it was praying, that's why. Oh, but
(12:00):
it didn't occur to me, you know, And I thought
it was praying. And you know, I'll never forget that.
It was beautiful, it was sweet, but it was It's
hard to comprehend that something so wonderful could happen to me,
or to happen to anyone and that's also what I
(12:22):
put in my book. If these things can't happen to me,
it didn't happen to anyone, because I'm not even money special.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You are, though, Look at all these things happening to you.
You are, you are special.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You are well. I thank you, but I think.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Maybe, but no, you are you are? You are?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I mean here you are on coast telling your story.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It is It's very good.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It is very cool. I know it's so cool. I
think it's cool that I'm on here. I love it.
I think it's great. Did you ever see the angel again?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
No, I didn't see an angel again. I had some
well let me say, I didn't see that angel, but
I did see what I believed to be another angel.
And the angel that I saw later I said that
was like nineteen eighty I read he showed up when
(13:22):
some friends from a school gave me a ride home,
and it turned out they were kind of into drug dealing.
I just thought they were nice guys. They followed me
home because I was having car trouble, and when we
lived out in Prestwood at the time, when we got
pat Anchorage very dark in the eighties, Mike. All my
(13:44):
accessories went out and I had to partner my car,
and they said, well, we'll give you a ride the
rest of the way home. And it turned out though
as they were talking they weren't very nice young men.
And the one, the other, the man that was in
my class, he really had to distance himself. The other
(14:05):
guy was so bad, but he was bad too. Had
ended up and we had stopped because of course the
driver has a flat tire. So we're out in the
middle of nowhere. Everything is shut down, and I'm getting
scared of them. And out of nowhere comes a white Cadillac,
(14:26):
a white convertible Cadillac with the long horns on the
front on the hood beautiful and a tall, dark black man,
very handsome. And I called that story tall, dark and angelic,
because I believe he was an angel. He got out
(14:46):
of the car. He had some white cowboy hat, he's
got a white suit. He's god to look like white
boots underneath him. And he just rolls over to me.
He walks bessoms, strows over to me and he asked
me how I'm doing. We're just all just kind of
staring at him. It was so unreal and I said, oh, fine,
(15:07):
thank you, and I was the shy and he said, well,
I just thought maybe you needed some help. And kind
of like I said in my book, kind of like
as if he already had help, you know, just by coming.
And the one man, it was such a horrible thing
in the nineteen eighties. The young man had a jack
Inese hand who was changing the car the car, and
(15:30):
he said, oh, I think this white boy can handle this.
And I was so humiliate angry to be associated with him.
And I looked over to see if the man had heard,
and I thought, yeah, he heard, but he was smiling
at that boy. The man who said that, he was
smiling at this just incomprehensible smile of love and everything,
(15:57):
you know. I couldn't believe it. He wasn't taking act.
And so then they were just kind of quiet. We
I didn't know what to say, and then they didn't
know what to say, and I said, it was just
so we couldn't comprehend him. And then he said, well,
you all have a good night, and he looked at
me and he got back in his car and he
(16:19):
drove off toward Labrange, which back then there was nothing
that way, and you just went out further. He just
disappeared in the night, you know, down the road. And
so after that they changed the tire and then they
didn't talk anymore. I think it just they couldn't comprehend
what happened, and they dropped me off at home and
(16:41):
just left. And I think about that. I think they
were planning something. I think I was probably in big
trouble that night.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now, this is in Kentucky. This is where I grew
up too. I had a haunted house. I grew up
in a haunted house. And it's always interesting, Diane, that
there's always people in the house that have Nope, I've
never noticed anything. I've never heard anything. I've never seen anything.
And there's other people in the house. Oh yeah, lots
of stuff. You know, you hear things, you see things.
(00:26):
So I totally understand that. And do you have any
conclusions of why that might be.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, the first thing is I realized there are monsters
in the closet and under the bed. Yes, to my core.
It took the naivety of you know, ghosts don't exist,
you know they don't and they can't scare anyone. And
(00:55):
then you know, we had other ones. I had other
haunted houses I worked in and lived in. And so
after writing my book and I had to examine a
lot of things about who were we and we went
through a pretty dysfunctional life. My children had to and
I did, and my husband had to. He really really
(01:18):
couldn't help that. But after everything happened because of that
then I feel like God did hear my prayers. And
I had several angelic encounters and I thought, Okay, maybe
there are bad things in the world, but there are
(01:39):
also angels. And I thought, of there are angels and
there's a God. And so it took years to come
to grips with Okay, even the horrible things make us
who we are, and it shows that we are important.
We matter no matter you know what your state of
(02:04):
life is. And so that's what I came to the conclusion.
In my family, we are important, we matter, and no
one is unreachable. And sometimes you don't want certain things
to reach you, but the good things can outweighs the bad.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And there were some of those angelic encounters well.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
In nineteen seventy eight we had when we left that house,
we went to a little apartment and I just said, well,
nothing never liked that happens, that doesn't exist, and I
pushed all that on my mind and it was we
were free. And then we moved one more time, rented
(02:47):
a little house and everything seemi going real well, and
my husband got another job that he liked and he
was starting a night work and he I was waiting
for him to come in. One morning, I kind of
woke up and I was thinking, it's about time, and
all of a sudden, the foot of the bed shook.
(03:09):
It shook, and I started crying because it was back.
It had followed us, and I couldn't believe it. Connie,
I couldn't believe this couldn't exist in a normal world.
But it did. And then one night we were lying
in bed and my husband was home and something hit
(03:32):
the wall really hard in the living room, and Chris,
from his room the room he said, Molly, something hit
the wall. And I got up and I looked in
on them and they were all in their bed and
asleep except for Chris. And I walked in the living
room and my zipple lighter I smoke at that time,
(03:54):
a heavy zipple lighter was on the floor, and I
knew it had following something had thrown that with such
a force it sort of just vibrated through the whole house.
And I just told him it's okay, my lighter just fell.
And I really don't think he believed that. He, you know,
he was pretty scared looking, but I warned him to sing.
(04:17):
Things like that don't exist. And so that started with
the bed shaking, and I was under that. You know,
I'm not scared. I walked in the dark to go
get my landlord, and I've done things before, but under
that threat of that invisible thing, I was just vulnerable
(04:38):
and weak, and it knew it. And I hated it.
I hated myself and I hated it because I was
so vulnerable and scared and I just I thought, you
can't live like this, This can't be happening. And about
that time, we joined the little church and I was
(04:59):
singing some and we were going out one night's church
and my friend and my husband and my daughter stood
around the kitchen table kind of talking. We were getting
ready to leave, so I picked up my youngest daughter
in my right arm. I picked up my person, my guitar,
and my left hand, and I put some hills on
(05:19):
and we were going out to the car because we
were getting ready to go. And the porch had three
high concrete steps and it had an asphalt driveway. And
as soon as I took that first step, I realized
I was unbalanced and I was gonna fall, and I
had my little daughter in my arm, and I in
(05:40):
those seconds, I thought, hell, am I going to get
rid of the other things to help her, because we
were going to fall on these steps. And right then
a strong hand caught my right shoulder and pressed on
it and it stayed there until I caught my balance
and everything my balance. I couldn't believe it, and I
(06:03):
went on down the steps, and I, you know, was
kind of giggling and relief. And I turned around to
see who had come out, and Keith or my husband,
and nobody was there. And I said, out loud to
my little daughter, just out loud, I said, how did
they get back in the house so fast? I couldn't
believe this whirl wind saved from this high porch, you know,
(06:27):
And I put everything down to her and I came
back in the house and they were still standing around
the table, and I said, who came out just now?
And they said nobody. And I said, no, who came
out of the house right now? And they're kind of
wondering and they said nobody. Why And I said, because
I was falling and somebody caught me. And they said, really,
(06:49):
you know, they just I diadn't know what say. They
knew I was serious, and so we went on the church.
But that's funny Connie. I didn't tell really. I think
I told them my cousin because I knew she would
believe me. But I didn't tell hnybody. I just I
didn't talk about the bad things. And then this, because
that was so beautiful, I kind of I didn't know
(07:11):
what to think about that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Did you actually feel the hand?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yet? It stopped me from falling as I was standing
there losing my balance, It just right on my shoulder,
just a strong hand. And that's what I couldn't believe.
How did you know my husband or my friend come
out and catch me like that? So that's what I
was amazed at at first. And then I couldn't believe.
How did they get back in the house And they
(07:37):
came out and saved me and they ran back in
the house. I couldn't believe it, and no one came out.
And yes, it saved me from falling with my little daughter.
Maybe it would have given me a head injury, maybe
it could have killed her. You know, we were it
was a very dangerous situation. And yes, and I'll never
forget that, and I'll never you know, I believe it
(08:00):
was a guardian angel, although that's hard to believe. Sometimes
you know, I think could it could have guardian angel
actually touched me, you know, saved me, but there aren't
many other explanations for it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, that's what they're there for, right, guardian angels. Now,
was it like a big hand? Was it warm or
did you notice anything else?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I thought I just thought it was my husband or
our friend Keith. It was just seemed like a big hand.
I thought it was one of them, that it had
to be one of them, just you know, their actually
caught me. But it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's nice. That's a nice one.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yes, yes, And I have several others around at the
same time. And may I think maybe because we needed prayers,
we needed help because something was following us and we
had enough problem in our life, sadnesses with the marriage.
You know, it's still still hanging on, but not good.
(09:05):
And I went to bed one night, we both went
to sleep. The children were asleep, and he always fell
asleep quickly, and I'm a night out and I closed
my eyes and I thought, you know, I needed to
go to sleep. And I opened my eyes and there
was an angel floating probably three or four feet off
(09:26):
the ground, and it was a blonde haired angel, a
child and you know, I always hear how in each
culture they usually see if they see an angel, it
fits their culture, and that makes sense. You could say, well,
you're just you saw a picture, but I think it
(09:48):
makes more sense that you see things in your culture
that's familiar to you. And so this little angel had
the wings pulled back, it had blonde here had a
like a glowing halo. I could see that on its hair,
and its gam seemed to be electrified. And when I
(10:10):
was growing up, I thought of Guardian angels as kind
of a white robe, but just kind of plain. And
this little angel had a blue band around its waist
that kind of waved in the air in the back,
and it had a pink sash over and I couldn't
I could not believe it. I couldn't fathom it. And
(10:30):
its legs were tucked under and its hands were together.
And so I did what they say to do. I
sat up and I pinched myself. I thought, that's I'm
just gonna pinch myself. And it stayed. It stayed, and
it was so to put it in words, I couldn't
(10:52):
believe it. And I thought about just reaching over and
trying to wake my husband up. But I thought, I
don't wanted anything to make the school away ever, I
could sit there forever there it's this little angel. And
as it stayed there, you know, I took it all in.
I took it all in, and then it was gone.
(11:16):
And it didn't fade away, it didn't blink away. It
was just gone. And I set up all night. I couldn't.
I could barely comprehend it, and and it just seemed
too too wonderful, too wonderful, And so that was kind
of like, why are the the evil things coming? And
(11:37):
then how are we so blessed to have these guardian angels?
And I'm very naive tone it sounds so funny. I
was thinking of what was it doing. It's eyes were
closed and had its hands up. And then finally it
hit me. I had been asking people for prayer, pray
for us. Oh, it was praying, that's why. Oh, but
(12:00):
it didn't occur to me, you know, And I thought
it was praying. And you know, I'll never forget that.
It was beautiful, it was sweet, but it was It's
hard to comprehend that something so wonderful could happen to me,
or to happen to anyone and that's also what I
(12:22):
put in my book. If these things can't happen to me,
it didn't happen to anyone, because I'm not even money special.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You are, though, Look at all these things happening to you.
You are, you are special.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You are well. I thank you, but I think.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Maybe, but no, you are you are? You are?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I mean here you are on coast telling your story.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It is It's very good.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It is very cool. I know it's so cool. I
think it's cool that I'm on here. I love it.
I think it's great. Did you ever see the angel again?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
No, I didn't see an angel again. I had some
well let me say, I didn't see that angel, but
I did see what I believed to be another angel.
And the angel that I saw later I said that
was like nineteen eighty I read he showed up when
(13:22):
some friends from a school gave me a ride home,
and it turned out they were kind of into drug dealing.
I just thought they were nice guys. They followed me
home because I was having car trouble, and when we
lived out in Prestwood at the time, when we got
pat Anchorage very dark in the eighties, Mike. All my
(13:44):
accessories went out and I had to partner my car,
and they said, well, we'll give you a ride the
rest of the way home. And it turned out though
as they were talking they weren't very nice young men.
And the one, the other, the man that was in
my class, he really had to distance himself. The other
(14:05):
guy was so bad, but he was bad too. Had
ended up and we had stopped because of course the
driver has a flat tire. So we're out in the
middle of nowhere. Everything is shut down, and I'm getting
scared of them. And out of nowhere comes a white Cadillac,
(14:26):
a white convertible Cadillac with the long horns on the
front on the hood beautiful and a tall, dark black man,
very handsome. And I called that story tall, dark and angelic,
because I believe he was an angel. He got out
(14:46):
of the car. He had some white cowboy hat, he's
got a white suit. He's god to look like white
boots underneath him. And he just rolls over to me.
He walks bessoms, strows over to me and he asked
me how I'm doing. We're just all just kind of
staring at him. It was so unreal and I said, oh, fine,
(15:07):
thank you, and I was the shy and he said, well,
I just thought maybe you needed some help. And kind
of like I said in my book, kind of like
as if he already had help, you know, just by coming.
And the one man, it was such a horrible thing
in the nineteen eighties. The young man had a jack
Inese hand who was changing the car the car, and
(15:30):
he said, oh, I think this white boy can handle this.
And I was so humiliate angry to be associated with him.
And I looked over to see if the man had heard,
and I thought, yeah, he heard, but he was smiling
at that boy. The man who said that, he was
smiling at this just incomprehensible smile of love and everything,
(15:57):
you know. I couldn't believe it. He wasn't taking act.
And so then they were just kind of quiet. We
I didn't know what to say, and then they didn't
know what to say, and I said, it was just
so we couldn't comprehend him. And then he said, well,
you all have a good night, and he looked at
me and he got back in his car and he
(16:19):
drove off toward Labrange, which back then there was nothing
that way, and you just went out further. He just
disappeared in the night, you know, down the road. And
so after that they changed the tire and then they
didn't talk anymore. I think it just they couldn't comprehend
what happened, and they dropped me off at home and
(16:41):
just left. And I think about that. I think they
were planning something. I think I was probably in big
trouble that night.
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