October 28, 2024 • 37 mins
In honor of Halloween week, Morgan brought on psychic bestie Zoey Greco. They talked about empaths and why their essence is so important not only to this world, but to relationships. They also discussed intuition and how to trust it with your entire being. Morgan also allowed Zoey to do a reading on her auras that got really deep and lots of emotions came out.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Thank you personally.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Morgan old Man, Hi everybody. I'm so excited to be
joined by Zoe Greco. She is a psychic and all
around just super awesome vibe person that I've seen on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
And I'm really happy to have you here. How are you, Zoe?
I'm really well. Thank you so much for having me here.
I'm really looking forward to this conversation. I think your
vibe is really unique and it's really fun to be
able to tap into you and tune into your energy.
So I'm excited for what's a hud for us today? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Fun? Okay, Well, I want to talk about the psychic
side of you first, so I would love to know
how this happened for you and your life, Like, how
are you like, Oh gosh, okay, I'm a psychic. I
can understand these things. When did that all come about?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Such a great question. And it's funny people usually ask
me like how long have you been psychic, to which
my response is my whole life, Like I was born
this way, so unlike other cool people out there, I
didn't have like a near death experience or some sort
of like pivotal moment that sort of brought me into
my abilities. I just happened to be lucky enough to
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have parents who kind of noticed that I was maybe
a little different and decided not to try and get
in the way, but to rather try and support me
as my authentic self and make some room for me
to just sort of blossom into whatever was already happening.
And so growing up, my mom would take me to
see other psychics and like witches and go to like
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sound healing circles and things that would just in the
nineties were a little less common, which to me, you know,
that's normal place. But even now today when I tell
people like, oh, yeah, I'm in a sound healing band
or whatever, They're like, oh what. So I definitely I
feel really grateful to have had that influence in my life.
But to be honest, just like everybody else, I tried
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to sort of put it away. I wanted so badly
to be normal. So if you ask any of my
school age friends, I was definitely the girl that would
bring like oracle cards and tarot cards to the sleepover.
But other than that, I opened up to very few
people about it and just kind of wanted to go
about my life normally. I went to college or studied
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Asian culture and gender studies. I wanted to take a
path into journalism, and the universe had other plans for me.
So long story short, I've been doing this professionally for
about a decade now, which is so crazy to say,
And I've had the honor and the joy of working
with thousands of people all over the world, and I
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honestly can't imagine doing anything else. So I just feel
really fortunate that I was able to hold onto that
part of myself despite trying to make us separation. Yeah,
and I do wonder.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I'm sure this isn't something that you talk about often
because most of the time you're reading other people. But
I'm so curious it had to be a hard experience
for you to recognize that you were different and also
been other people noticing you were different. Like what hardships
did you face as you were coming to terms with
the fact that, Okay, I want to do this for
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my life.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's such a great question. And I think, honestly, the
idea of being different is something I'm like super used to,
and I think you and probably a lot of your
listeners people who resonate with you, can relate to this
feeling of just sort of like naturally kind of standing out,
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just having sort of like a sparkly energy, and people
either really like it or they really don't, and they're
gonna let you know about that. So I think, honestly,
I just was so used to having that sort of
reaction that when I decided to take a more like
alternative path in life, I don't think anyone was surprised.
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My parents definitely were like concerned because they weren't sure
it was a really like viable career path, and they
had invested a lot of money in my education. But
when I said, hey, this is what I'm going to do,
all they wanted was for me to feel safe and
to make sure that I was going to be able
to take care of myself. And luckily that's all the truth,
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so it worked out really well. But honestly, I think
by the time I pursued this, I was so used
to being like the weird girl and like the odd
one out that to me it was kind of commonplace.
The thing that's been really, honestly, and this isn't the
question you asked, but the thing that's been the weirdest
for me is receiving so much acceptance for it, like
receiving having the online community that I've been able to build,
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like reaching you know, ninety thousand followers. That was never
my plan. Like I didn't set out to become like
a spiritual figure. I just wanted like a little office
where I could read cards and put crystals people and
like heal their hearts. And I just think when you're
standing in your purpose, there's this automatic sort of like
magnetism that you are able to embrace and sort of
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like bend to your desires and so like, I feel
like I'm really working with the universe and we're sort
of working together, and the universe has definitely brought me
surprises along the way. So honestly, receiving like positive attention
and not being you know, seen as like the weird girl,
that was actually the hardest thing to get used to.
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So a little bit of like a reverse of what
you had asked.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, well, acceptance is hard when you're expecting the other.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm sure sure. Okay, So I also know that you
do talk.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
A lot about empathy and impaths, and I am a
EmPATH myself, and I'd really just love to talk about
that because I have a lot of people I know
that listen who are deep feelers and very empathetic people,
and I also know being one myself, it can be
very special, and it can also be very challenging. So
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kind of tell me your work with IMPASS and then
we'll dive into it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Sure, you know, I think being an EmPATH myself a
gives me a lot of empathy but also like compassion
for that experience, and so it's kind of like when
you speak the same language as someone, you just know
how to approach them lovingly. And I think the highest
compliment I ever get paid from clients is when they
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say I feel so seen, like I feel so recognized.
No one's ever understood me so deeply, And that's the
feeling I want them to feel. But being an EmPATH
is what enables me to do that. And I think
we see empathy or like being an EmPATH or a
highly sensitive person in HSP, we often see that as
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a detriment because you know, we're called cry babies or
we're too sensitive. In fact, my license plate is cry
baby and I wear it like a like a badge
of courage. I don't like that, but I feel so
honored to be able to enter into people's spiritual spaces
and emotional spaces. And I find that as an intuitive,
my particular gift is being able to feel other people's emotions,
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and I'm only able to do that through my empathetic abilities.
But what I do is I use that to kind
of build this like this internal reference inside of me
where I feel the vibration of an emotion and I go, oh,
I know this one, it's shame. And that way I'm
able to kind of help like point people in the
direction of what they're feeling, like, Oh, this is shame, Oh,
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this is joy, like oh, and really helping people recognize
how to like turn themselves toward the things that feel
good and how to help them create space from the
things that are not in alignment with their authenticity. So
one of the things that I definitely support people in
is how to take care of yourself as an EmPATH,
because it's, oh, that's tough, hard out here on these
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streets for these sensitive souls, and I think, you know,
the world doesn't make it easy for empaths to take
care of themselves. So one of the first things I
always tell people is that you have to be really
selective about what you're consuming. So just like you would
take care of your body and make sure that like
if your body was sensitive to something, that you wouldn't
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overly consume that, or that you would be like cautious
about how you consume that, the same is true for
what you consume, like mentally and emotionally, so media that
might be like overly graphic or upsetting. And it doesn't
mean that you turn away from things that are hard.
In fact, empaths are needed in spaces where there is
you know, dissent or difficulty or separation or disparity. Empaths
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are needed there. But it's about creating a positive relationship
with those things that can be triggering to know that
you can be of service, but you also don't have
to be You can just be present, you can be
supportive and learning sort of like when to step into
those things when it's necessary and when to space from
those things for your own internal needs. So just making
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sure that you're not overly exposing yourself to things that
are damaging or triggering, even when it means you have
to make tough decisions, even when it means you might
need to create space from certain people or that you
might need to reevaluate certain relationships or even if that's
your relationship to your job, your work environment, your living situation,
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the people closest to you. So being an EmPATH is
no joke because you sometimes have to do really hard things.
But when you're able to actually take action toward those
necessary things on the other side of that, your reality
is like a breath of fresh air. It's like living
in a rainbow. Honestly, when you have built a world
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around yourself that supports you as an empathetic being rather
than challenges you as an empathetic being, your entire reality
is altered. And not only are you surrounding yourself with
people that make you feel safe or opportunities or experiences,
but you're also granting so much permission for the people
around you, and that moves out into this larger ripple
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of influence. So when we do honor ourselves, we actually
make it so much easier for the people in our
lives who are like, you're too sensitive, you're to this.
We give them room to feel those feelings too. And
I think it's not really talked about that's really important
to remember, is that people who come down on you
in sort of like negation of your emotional experiences or
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like your energy or who you are. Very often those
people probably have more in common with you than you realize.
And somebody once told them stop crying. It's not good.
You need to stop doing this. And what those people
are trying to do that are telling you, they're trying
to protect you from experiencing what they experience. They're like,
if you cry, people make fun of you, if you're
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overly emotional, people are gonna think something bad about you.
They're gonna think you're unprofessional, or're gonna think all these things.
They're trying to protect you, and they don't realize what
they're doing in the process that they are just perpetuating
the damage that they experienced. So I really try to
like turn my gaze on people who do have maybe
like a negative opinion about my emotionality. I try to
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turn my gaze onto them with like just deep compassion
and maybe even talk to them like, can you tell
me why you feel that way? Can you explain that
to me? Did that come from someone important in your
life that taught you that? And are you trying to
teach me something? Because in early life, I mean, all
you feel is the criticism, like all you feel is
the rejection. But when you take the time to ask
questions or consider the source, or consider approaching it with compassion,
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being an EmPATH actually becomes a gift and you're not
only supporting yourself, but you're changing the experience of the
people around you. And it's actually so beautiful when you
make space for that to happen, you know, And it's
also really hard.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I feel like as an impath, you talk about so
many of the benefits of it.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
The thing that I've struggled with the most is that there's.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Few and far between that are impass So you feel
very isolated and you feel like such a deep feeler
in a world that doesn't feel anything, you know. And
so I think, on that flip side of that, of
always being that one, it never feels reciprocated to you.
So how do you like suggest some people maybe can
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counteract such a world that has become very hardened to
a lot of things when you're somebody who that just
hasn't been the case. You know.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I hate to disagree with you, because I think I
love it amazing. No, I love agreeing, But what I
will say is that what I've learned from working with
thousands of people, whether it's you know, billionaire clients or
like single moms who can also be billionaires. By the way,
I've learned that everybody is soft. Everyone is soft, and
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everyone is seeking space to be soft, but they just
really need permission. And I think that's kind of what
I'm trying to express, is like the people that do
make it hard for you very often, they're also having
a really hard time and they're just trying to figure
out how to have an easier time, even if that
means trying to justify their own choices by trying to
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make you make those same choices. So again, we can't
change everybody, right, and we that's not our job. And
I think that's like the wound of the umpath as
we think we're supposed to heal everybody. But what we
can do is plant seeds. Yeah, we plant seeds of possibility.
We ask questions, we leave with a remark, we offer
something kind and if it's not reciprocated in the moment.
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It's so important to remember to depersonalize your responses from people.
And I know it's like such a cliche, like people
people say to you is really how they feel about themselves.
But it is true, and so I've just really learned
how to be a listener, and when someone is coming
with dissent against me, I'm really really clear that they're
talking to themselves. And when I'm able to sort of
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reframe it that way, I have a lot of compassion.
And that's not to say that people don't have legitimate
critique of my energy or my approach, orm I whatever,
and I'm open to that. I'm open to feedback. But
I think, especially as an EmPATH, you're able to learn
more easily than others when some feedback that's offered to
you is hitting home and like actually feels like it's
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marking something that might need to be thought about, or
when it's like clearly a projection, and I think it's
really important to like take the time, take the moment
to listen and remind yourself, this person is saying this
to me not because of me, but because of them.
And so what I'm really hearing is how they feel
about themselves. And when you're able to approach it from
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that place, A you're not feeling the sting yourself, and
B you're able to just maybe like relieve yourself from
that situation, or like remove yourself from that situation with
just a lot of compassion and inner comfort, rather than
leaving with like the shame or guilt of like, oh, yeah,
I'm wrong. I'm wrong because I think. I think when
you really think about it, you take a moment and
you ask yourself, like, is it so bad to know
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and feel what other people feel? Is it so bad
to be able to connect with others on that deeper level?
And the answer is no. And that's the thing I
really want empaths to understand is like you are able
I don't want to say to use empathy, but you're
able to navigate empathy in a way that actually supports
you and your experience. So I always tell, like my
CEO clients, or like, you know, my business clients, your
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empathy is a gift because when you walk into a room,
you already know exactly what's going on in everybody's energy.
And even though that can feel overwhelming, it doesn't have to.
And you're able to use that to build deeper rapport,
deeper connections, to really ingratiate yourself to people, and to
create genuine forms of connection that serve both people on
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both sides. It's not necessarily about like how can I
use this to my advantage to manipulate people, but like,
how can I soften the energy of the experience for everybody?
And when you do, you end up being the most
liked person in the room.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I really love that you challenged me on that. I
love hearing you talk about it in the perspective that
you have.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Is just it's so hopeful and so full.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Of empathy, literally because you're an EmPATH, but also because
as impaths maybe you've experienced this with some people. I
do feel like based on the course of where our
life is in that moment, is how we feel towards
other impaths and having our empathy, and like, I had
just went through something that was hard, so of course
my natural reaction is like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Take it back. I don't want it anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And the life correlation being an impath is really difficult.
So you just reminded me of who I am and
I just needed to take a step back in a
second and be like, Okay, no, it's it's all right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So I appreciate that you challenged me in that. I
love what you said. Well, I also want to just
take a moment to validate you, because it is part
of the process. And I think I just want to
be a voice of encouragement because the entire higher world
is already really anti mpath like and we obviously don't
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need more of that. We need more of the because
for instance, like so I teach intuitive development, I help
people develop their intuitive abilities. And one of the first
things that people always sort of bring forward as like
like a like a contestant of like becoming more intuitive.
They're always so afraid of seeing something that they don't
want to see, or like calling upon an energy that,
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like they've been taught is dangerous or scary. And I've
been psychic my whole life, and I ain't never run
into a demon. Let me tell you that right now.
Like I've never had a negative experience. I've been in
like haunted spaces or haunted houses, or like spaces where
there's a collection of energy that's trying to you know,
that's stuck or confined. But I'm never afraid because it's
just energy. It's like literally invisible that can't do anything
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to me. But also like I have empathy for that
energy that's stuck there, that doesn't want to be stuck there.
And when you approach anything with love, you can only
be met with love. Even if it's at first like
pain or like there's layers in front of it, there's
still love underneath that, because that's all. People are inherently good.
And I maybe I'm pineing the sky girly, but I've
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been doing this for a while and I've been connecting
with people, and what I have found is that even
under what seems like dark, there is just somebody wanting
to be loved, and someone looking for love, and someone
looking for connection in all the wrong places. So I
want to validate for you that, like, yeah, when you
get hurt, you want to just curl up and hide away.
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And trust me, that is one of my like it's
one of my tried and true go tos, like I
put myself in a tiny little shell. But what I
really learned, and I had to learn it the hard way,
which is why I want to teach it to people
so they don't have to do it the hard way.
It Yeah, I learned that, like when you open your
heart up, when you want to close it off, is
the time you need to open it up the most,
is the time you need to reach out to your
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friends and you may find like it happened to me,
I had to open up about something really difficult that
I was going through, and I opened up the three
friends and two of them were like, ooh, that's kind
of a lot, and the other one was like, thank
you so much for telling me that. Thank you so
much for opening my eyes to what you're going through
so I can be a better friend to you. And
did it hurt when those two people responded harshly? Damn right, absolutely.
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But what I discovered was, Okay, I'm in a certain
space in my life, in this moment where those particular
people aren't safe spaces for me. But I'm so clear
about the person who is, and now I know where
my emotions are welcome, and where my energy's welcome, and
where my needs are welcome. And that person also knows
that they have that same experience with me, and that
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built a deeper rapport and a deeper connection. And guess what,
I'm still friends with the other two people as well.
We just had the opportunity to explore maybe why they
reacted that way when I opened up because they struggle
with vulnerability, but just because someone can't receive your vulnerability
doesn't mean that it's not worth sharing. It falls on
the right ears and it falls on the wrong ears,
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and that acts as a filter. And that's how you
know where your energy needs to be moved toward and
where it needs to take space. So yeah, like it's
a little bit of a dirty work kind of process,
but when you do it, it's so rewarding and it's
so good. And so I'm happy that we saw that differently.
And I also just want to say, like, I have
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so much empathy for you because like I can feel it.
I feel your heart, you know, like I feel what
you're moving through, and I can like almost feel the
tears in my eyes, and like your feelings are valid,
and it's okay to want to hide away. It's just
not okay to actually act on it, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, you just made me cry because you're like I
felt it, and I was like, oh gosh, it's coming,
it's happening, Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, and that's okay. I mean, this is your show.
Maybe you don't want to cry on your show, but.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
No, I'm very open. Everybody's seen everything.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I totally.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You did also mention in that talking about intuition and
I think that's another thing that some people can really
struggle with as you move through life, because our intuition
is meant to be our guide. It's it's supposed to
help us through and understanding people and how we should
move through situations.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
But like, once your intuition.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Gets a little like hit cracked and pushed against, you
start to not trust it. So how can you move
through like constant trusting of Like, no, my intuition knows
what it's doing. I just have to allow it to
keep going. Like how do we do that?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Such a great question. I like to call our intuition
the voice of our authentic self. And our authentic self
is not just who we are in this lifetime, but
it's who we've always been, who will always be. And
there's also like sparks of the greater collective loving energy
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within that authentic self. And so your intuition is the
voice of your authentic self, it's the voice of spirit.
And where those two things come to meet as your roadmap,
your guide. And I always tell people the needle on
the compass of intuition is joy. And I know it's
like quite cliche, like follow your bliss, but honestly, that
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is the key. And I think the thing that I've
really learned over my lifetime of following my intuition is
that the results are not always immediate, and like that's
the thing that we want that we look for. We're like,
if it's if it's what I'm supposed to do, then
it's gonna feel good right away. Wrong, No, that's not correct.
It's not going to feel great. Patience is so hard,
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totally totally. But we always see like any sort of
of like resistance as a no, And that's not necessarily
the case. Sometimes energy has to push against us because
we're rare and ready to go, but divine timing has
not caught up to our ambition or our vision or
our energy. So the dance with your intuition is definitely
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one of like a two steps forward, one step back
sort of chatcha kind of vibe. But once you learn
that you're in that dance and you're in that rhythm,
it starts to feel so natural and so good. And
I would also say that our intuition doesn't lead us astray.
It may not take us to places that we expected
or that we wanted to go, or that we projected
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ourselves into. But when we are so attached to our
vision of what we think it's supposed to look like,
we leave no room for magic, for miracles for the
universe to work. It's magic for the universe to step
in and intervene and create something incredible to happen for us.
And it's usually when we're not trying that things happen
the most automatically. But we're so afraid to relinquish control
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that we push it away, and we don't believe that
there's this force of good that moves through all of us,
that moves us together and will inevitably take us each
to where we belong. So we move against it and
we push against it and we fight and we say,
but I want to go this way, but I want
it to look like this. And it's in doing that
that we actually prolong our happiness, that we actually create
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more space between ourselves and our desires. And it's not
to say that you just sit back and do nothing
like on contrure. The universe gives you an assignment and
you follow the assignment. So I'm going to give you
an example. I recently, well my whole life, people told
me I was going to write a book, and I
am I allowed to curse on your show? Yeah? Of course. Okay,
So people told me I was going to write a book,
and I was like, fuck you. I'd rather jump off
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a cliff. The last thing I want to do is
write a book. I'll never write a book. You can
never make me write a book. I won't do it.
And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the universe
handed me an opportunity to write a book, and they
gave me not only the opportunity, but the assignment. And
once I got that assignment, one of my friends was like, oh,
you need a literary agent. Take mine. So I met
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with the agent and she was like, you need a proposal.
You need to find someone to write a proposal. Connected
me with someone to write a proposal. I've been on
this like giant journey of interviewing literary agents and proposal writers.
But I've been hitting some financial blocks because it's definitely
like a financially heavy endeavor and so it's not like
exactly where I want to be putting my resources right now.
So I sat back and I was kind of like,
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what gives universe? You told me to write a book.
I found an agent. I found a proposal writer. What's
the problem? And I literally heard, we didn't tell you
to get a literary agent. We didn't tell you to
get a proposal writer. We told you to write a book.
And what's the only thing I haven't even started doing
in the process yet. I haven't put down a namn
word for that book. And that was when I realized, like, wow,
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I'm trying to control this so deeply. I'm trying to
make sure that the end result is exactly what I
wanted to be, rather than just following the plan, follow
the assignment and take it step by step. Once I
write that book, I'm going to know exactly where it
needs to be, and the world's going to be ready
for it, and the agents and the proposal writers and
the money and all the pieces are going to be
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in place. But I was trying to jump the gun
and make sure that I got exactly what I wanted,
how I wanted it, and the universe reminded me that's
not how this works, baby girl, And I was so
grateful to receive that clear and as soon as I did,
I got excited about writing the book, because before that
I was nervous. I was like, I have all these
people to impress, and I have to make sure it's perfect,
and I got to make sure it's like this proposal.
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And as soon as I got to put all that away,
I got so stoked about writing this book. And it's
going to be the best book you ever read, because
I'm actually putting my energy into the assignment rather than
into the preparation to make sure that all my hard
work is going to pay off. That's not for me
to figure out. That's for the universe to put into place,
and they've already shown me that they're prepared to support
me in that endeavor, but I have to do my
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part first. So it's this process of receive the assignment,
take action upon it, and trust and believe that the
next step will reveal itself when it's time. But the
universe does not operate on our timeline, and as human beings,
we just like really don't like to hear it.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I was like, Oh, you're saying that telling me to
trust and like let control go, and I'm like, Oh,
that makes it so hard. But I know it's important.
I know that it matters and it works for people.
I'm just, you know, still in the process of learning
totally okay, Well, speaking of how you came to this,
(27:09):
I'd love to do like a little intuitive reading here.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
If you're cool with it, absolutely, are you cool with it?
I'm about to reveal your energy to everyone listening. Yeah.
Luckily they love you, so I'm not worried about it. Yeah,
I'm pretty open.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So they've seen and been through all of it with me,
so nothing is new at this point.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, when I read energy, I love to take a
look at people's auras, and usually the color and their
aura will reveal something to me about their energy, either
on one of two levels, on a more circumstantial level
about like what's happening in their world currently, or more
of an authentic level about like what's happening energetically for them,
like who they're here to be, who they arrived as,
(27:52):
and those qualities within them that are sort of innate
and unshakable. So you're gonna get a little bit of
a mix of like who you are and also like
what who you are is going through. So yeah, the
saying right now, yes, yes, just making a moment to
center for a second. Okay, So I love your energy.
(28:14):
I've been so excited about this interview because I've actually
really been wanting an opportunity to do this with you,
and I know we talked about it prior to recording.
You were like, do we think we're gonna have time?
And can we do it? And I already knew you
were gonna ask me that because I wanted to do
it for you anyway. So one of the things that
I think is really cool about your energy innatly is
(28:35):
that you have a lot of yellow and a lot
of purple. And when we see yellow in someone's field,
it's exactly what you might expect. It's like the sunny, warm, optimistic, inviting,
like you are everyone's friend and you want to use
the confidence that you have to instill confidence in others,
Like any good that you receive, you're so eager to
(28:57):
give that to other people. And I just want you
to know I love that about you. But the yellow
is also a very intellectual number or a very intellectual color,
like it is not something to be underestimated, but it
often is because you present with such like warmth and
inviting energy that they sometimes wonder if there's any substance
behind it. And very often when we see like CEOs
(29:20):
or we see like highly technical people like doctors or
engineers or data analysts. They have a lot of yellow
in their field because it's the color of intellect and intelligence,
whereas the purple is the color of intuition. That's the
part of you, that's the mpath. She's like the soft,
sensitive indigo girly, like she's just here to be everyone's friend.
Like you're kind of a care bear, like in the
(29:41):
best way possible.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Nobody's ever compared me to a care bear, and I
love it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
But that combination is just so beautiful because you have
this gorgeous balance of intellect, confidence and intuition, and that's
who you're here to be. You're here to be like
a shining light that allows others to be and to
experience themselves that way too. Like if she can do it,
I can do it. And that's like that authentic energy
(30:06):
in you that just wants to be seen for who
you are. But that endpath in you is like, ugh,
when I show myself to people, it's not always received
the nicest and sometimes people have things to say and
it's painful. So it feels like there's kind of a
little bit of a dichotomy going on for you, where
there's a lot of blue in your field circumstantially, which
(30:27):
tells me that, like you're on a path to even
bigger forms of like facilitation leadership, like teaching, guiding, speaking,
like podcasting, Like all of this is very much like
your voice is meant to be heard. You're here as
a channel, you're here as a messenger, and it's not
necessarily that you have to like channel from the ether,
but like you are. You might just not know that
(30:48):
you are, but everything that you share, all the wisdom
that you have and the way that you deliver it
with like a voice of authenticity and truth, that's just
growing for you. And there's a part of you that
already knows that, a part of you that knows that
you're onto like big shit, and so there's all this
other part of you that's like no, remember, like when
people see us, they say mean things and they do
(31:08):
mean things, and it's so scary, and there's kind of
this like mixing of voices. Now, we also are seeing
a lot of green in your field energetically, and that's
showing up circumstantially as well. So matters of the heart
are very much like at the center in the forefront
right now, and I can feel that in you, like
you have probably one of the biggest hearts of anybody
we'll ever meet, and right now, like you're building all
(31:31):
these walls around it. You're like, I'm afraid, like you
like there has been some pain, uh, And I know
you've shared that with your audience, so obviously there's been
some pain showing up for you and right now, and
I would love to like check them with even six months,
because I have a feeling you're gonna feel real different.
But at the moment, you're like I'm not letting anyone
and I'm locking all these doors like stay out, Like
(31:52):
there's a lot of walls being built, And I just
want to say, I don't think that's a bad thing.
And I know that you might be like what, uh,
It's not a bad thing because right now you need yourself,
like you need space to tune back into your truth.
And also there's a lot of like inner questioning like
how could I have not seen this? Or like there's
(32:12):
a lot of like shame and like story towards yourself,
which I just want to say, like, please stop doing that,
because you don't deserve to feel that way about yourself.
And if anything, what you are able to do is
see the potential in people. You're able to see their
truth before they're able to see it, just because they
can't act on it, just because they might not be
able to stand in it. And like, be in their
(32:33):
truth doesn't mean that you were wrong. It just means
that you believed in that person more than they believed
in themselves. And they couldn't be around someone who loved
them so much and had so much faith and belief
in them that because it caused them dissonance. There's a
cognitive dissonance that was happening for them, Like I feel
this way about myself, but you feel this way about me,
and I don't like it and I don't want to
be around that. And it doesn't mean that you were wrong.
(32:54):
And I really need you to walk away from this
experience knowing that there's nothing wrong with you. Like tickers
working great, your brain is working great, your radar's working great,
Like you are a very clear person. You live through truth,
you live through authenticity. You are who you say you are,
and you stand in that. You walk your talk, and
(33:14):
people who don't know how to do that, they're not
going to be able to stand next to you, like
people who can't walk their talk, can't stand next to you,
and you might not know because they might be trying,
they might really be trying to keep up, but eventually
they might have a hard time. So I just want
to say, like, if you feel like you need to
shut your heart off a little bit and like get
back into yourself and reacquaint yourself with your own vibration
(33:37):
and vibration, your vibration of independence and like clarity and
who you are, that's fine. Like take that time, because
I can tell I know you're going to open your
heart back up before you know it. Like this isn't permanent,
this is just a moment, and you're you're allowed to
have a moment. You're allowed to not be on all
the time. You're allowed to need yourself, and you have
(33:59):
permission to take some space and tend to yourself right now.
The last thing I'll say is that I also do
see quite a lot of like orangey red showing up
in your field, somewhere between the circumstantial and the authentic.
So people better watch out because you have big ideas.
There's a lot of like creative endeavors and like places
that you want to take your creative energy and people
(34:20):
need to be listening because your ideas are good and
whether people listen to them or not, you're still going
to make them happen somehow, some way, And that red
is letting us know, like your financial needs are always
going to be met, like your creativity is on fire
when you stand in your truth, the way you want
to do things, and the way that you want to
deliver your messages and the creative pursuits that you want
(34:41):
to pursue in order to like bring that megaphone up
to your voice. Always know that, like you know what's best.
And if someone doesn't agree, or someone's not ready to
like invest in it or take the steps with you,
find somebody who is, Like, you don't need that person
because your idea is exactly what it needs to be,
Like you're moving in the right direction, so you know
that's sound fame and you can cut out any part
(35:01):
of it that you don't love. But no, I would
love to check in with you and ask how that
resonated as you received it, and any part of it
that didn't resonate.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
No, Honestly, like you hit the nail on the head
so many times. I was just sitting here like kind
of grasping for air because I'm like, how is somebody
seen me so.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Clearly right now?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And like you know, it's emotional in a great way
and in a holy crap way, like yeah, I should
have warned you. No, it's okay, like you know, it's
it's just crazy how life always brings you the things
that you need when you need them, and I needed
that in that time and moment, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
So much for doing it.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I'm like, Okay, now I can like take a deep
breath and you know what, I am gonna walk away
and I'm gonna stop questioning myself because I needed to
hear that from somebody.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Honestly, I didn't. I'm gonna be so real with you.
I did not mean to go that deep, but spirit
told me what to say, and I was like, Okay,
I'm just gonna say it. And that does.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Sometimes I will say, maybe that's the biggest challenge, just
like I tell it like it is.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Maybe a little let's put in my mouth a little.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Just like you told me to, like not stop like
you you keep telling it like it is, because like
we need to hear that, you know, and you never
know when somebody else is needing to hear what you
have to say, so please.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
You're an amazing person. I just want you to know it.
I wish I could give you a big hug right now.
I wish we weren't so far away.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
But I know next time you come to Nashville, we're
gonna have to do another one of these.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Last time I came to Nashville, I got alcohol boys men.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
So okay, maybe not that version exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We do a little tamed down version the next time.
I'm older now. I'm older now, so yeah, we're definitely
due for another trip. The rare tiger always comes out.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It doesn't matter, right, So that's okay, but we'll tone
it down just a little bit at least to have
another conversation exactly. So I thank you so much for
coming on and being here with me and doing that.
I just I can't thank you enough for all your
words of wisdom and just hopefully some people not only
resonated with what I'm feeling, but also the impact talk
and the intuition and it helps them through what they're going.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So thank you. Thank you for opening the space for
people to talk about something they might not usually hear
about so you're opening portals of possibility for people all
the time in ways you might not even know.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Oh oh my goodness, Okay, I'm gonna go before you
make me cry. I love to having my psychic bestie
Zoey greco on to not only chat about impasse and intuition,
but for her intuitive insight on all of my auras.
And that was our first time ever meeting slash talking
(37:33):
to each other. So if you're not a believer, I
think you should totally become one. It was a super
fun interview for me to do and I hope you
all enjoyed it like I did. If you're loving the podcast,
please subscribe, rate and review. It really means so much
to me, and follow the podcast Instagram. Take this personally.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I love you all.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I hope you have a very happy Halloween week and
I can't wait to talk to you next time.
Thank you personally.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Morgan old Man, Hi everybody. I'm so excited to be
joined by Zoe Greco. She is a psychic and all
around just super awesome vibe person that I've seen on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
And I'm really happy to have you here. How are you, Zoe?
I'm really well. Thank you so much for having me here.
I'm really looking forward to this conversation. I think your
vibe is really unique and it's really fun to be
able to tap into you and tune into your energy.
So I'm excited for what's a hud for us today? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Fun? Okay, Well, I want to talk about the psychic
side of you first, so I would love to know
how this happened for you and your life, Like, how
are you like, Oh gosh, okay, I'm a psychic. I
can understand these things. When did that all come about?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Such a great question. And it's funny people usually ask
me like how long have you been psychic, to which
my response is my whole life, Like I was born
this way, so unlike other cool people out there, I
didn't have like a near death experience or some sort
of like pivotal moment that sort of brought me into
my abilities. I just happened to be lucky enough to
(01:22):
have parents who kind of noticed that I was maybe
a little different and decided not to try and get
in the way, but to rather try and support me
as my authentic self and make some room for me
to just sort of blossom into whatever was already happening.
And so growing up, my mom would take me to
see other psychics and like witches and go to like
(01:45):
sound healing circles and things that would just in the
nineties were a little less common, which to me, you know,
that's normal place. But even now today when I tell
people like, oh, yeah, I'm in a sound healing band
or whatever, They're like, oh what. So I definitely I
feel really grateful to have had that influence in my life.
But to be honest, just like everybody else, I tried
(02:07):
to sort of put it away. I wanted so badly
to be normal. So if you ask any of my
school age friends, I was definitely the girl that would
bring like oracle cards and tarot cards to the sleepover.
But other than that, I opened up to very few
people about it and just kind of wanted to go
about my life normally. I went to college or studied
(02:29):
Asian culture and gender studies. I wanted to take a
path into journalism, and the universe had other plans for me.
So long story short, I've been doing this professionally for
about a decade now, which is so crazy to say,
And I've had the honor and the joy of working
with thousands of people all over the world, and I
(02:50):
honestly can't imagine doing anything else. So I just feel
really fortunate that I was able to hold onto that
part of myself despite trying to make us separation. Yeah,
and I do wonder.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I'm sure this isn't something that you talk about often
because most of the time you're reading other people. But
I'm so curious it had to be a hard experience
for you to recognize that you were different and also
been other people noticing you were different. Like what hardships
did you face as you were coming to terms with
the fact that, Okay, I want to do this for
(03:24):
my life.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's such a great question. And I think, honestly, the
idea of being different is something I'm like super used to,
and I think you and probably a lot of your
listeners people who resonate with you, can relate to this
feeling of just sort of like naturally kind of standing out,
(03:46):
just having sort of like a sparkly energy, and people
either really like it or they really don't, and they're
gonna let you know about that. So I think, honestly,
I just was so used to having that sort of
reaction that when I decided to take a more like
alternative path in life, I don't think anyone was surprised.
(04:06):
My parents definitely were like concerned because they weren't sure
it was a really like viable career path, and they
had invested a lot of money in my education. But
when I said, hey, this is what I'm going to do,
all they wanted was for me to feel safe and
to make sure that I was going to be able
to take care of myself. And luckily that's all the truth,
(04:27):
so it worked out really well. But honestly, I think
by the time I pursued this, I was so used
to being like the weird girl and like the odd
one out that to me it was kind of commonplace.
The thing that's been really, honestly, and this isn't the
question you asked, but the thing that's been the weirdest
for me is receiving so much acceptance for it, like
receiving having the online community that I've been able to build,
(04:49):
like reaching you know, ninety thousand followers. That was never
my plan. Like I didn't set out to become like
a spiritual figure. I just wanted like a little office
where I could read cards and put crystals people and
like heal their hearts. And I just think when you're
standing in your purpose, there's this automatic sort of like
magnetism that you are able to embrace and sort of
(05:11):
like bend to your desires and so like, I feel
like I'm really working with the universe and we're sort
of working together, and the universe has definitely brought me
surprises along the way. So honestly, receiving like positive attention
and not being you know, seen as like the weird girl,
that was actually the hardest thing to get used to.
(05:31):
So a little bit of like a reverse of what
you had asked.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, well, acceptance is hard when you're expecting the other.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm sure sure. Okay, So I also know that you
do talk.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
A lot about empathy and impaths, and I am a
EmPATH myself, and I'd really just love to talk about
that because I have a lot of people I know
that listen who are deep feelers and very empathetic people,
and I also know being one myself, it can be
very special, and it can also be very challenging. So
(06:04):
kind of tell me your work with IMPASS and then
we'll dive into it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Sure, you know, I think being an EmPATH myself a
gives me a lot of empathy but also like compassion
for that experience, and so it's kind of like when
you speak the same language as someone, you just know
how to approach them lovingly. And I think the highest
compliment I ever get paid from clients is when they
(06:28):
say I feel so seen, like I feel so recognized.
No one's ever understood me so deeply, And that's the
feeling I want them to feel. But being an EmPATH
is what enables me to do that. And I think
we see empathy or like being an EmPATH or a
highly sensitive person in HSP, we often see that as
(06:50):
a detriment because you know, we're called cry babies or
we're too sensitive. In fact, my license plate is cry
baby and I wear it like a like a badge
of courage. I don't like that, but I feel so
honored to be able to enter into people's spiritual spaces
and emotional spaces. And I find that as an intuitive,
my particular gift is being able to feel other people's emotions,
(07:14):
and I'm only able to do that through my empathetic abilities.
But what I do is I use that to kind
of build this like this internal reference inside of me
where I feel the vibration of an emotion and I go, oh,
I know this one, it's shame. And that way I'm
able to kind of help like point people in the
direction of what they're feeling, like, Oh, this is shame, Oh,
(07:36):
this is joy, like oh, and really helping people recognize
how to like turn themselves toward the things that feel
good and how to help them create space from the
things that are not in alignment with their authenticity. So
one of the things that I definitely support people in
is how to take care of yourself as an EmPATH,
because it's, oh, that's tough, hard out here on these
(07:57):
streets for these sensitive souls, and I think, you know,
the world doesn't make it easy for empaths to take
care of themselves. So one of the first things I
always tell people is that you have to be really
selective about what you're consuming. So just like you would
take care of your body and make sure that like
if your body was sensitive to something, that you wouldn't
(08:17):
overly consume that, or that you would be like cautious
about how you consume that, the same is true for
what you consume, like mentally and emotionally, so media that
might be like overly graphic or upsetting. And it doesn't
mean that you turn away from things that are hard.
In fact, empaths are needed in spaces where there is
you know, dissent or difficulty or separation or disparity. Empaths
(08:40):
are needed there. But it's about creating a positive relationship
with those things that can be triggering to know that
you can be of service, but you also don't have
to be You can just be present, you can be
supportive and learning sort of like when to step into
those things when it's necessary and when to space from
those things for your own internal needs. So just making
(09:04):
sure that you're not overly exposing yourself to things that
are damaging or triggering, even when it means you have
to make tough decisions, even when it means you might
need to create space from certain people or that you
might need to reevaluate certain relationships or even if that's
your relationship to your job, your work environment, your living situation,
(09:25):
the people closest to you. So being an EmPATH is
no joke because you sometimes have to do really hard things.
But when you're able to actually take action toward those
necessary things on the other side of that, your reality
is like a breath of fresh air. It's like living
in a rainbow. Honestly, when you have built a world
(09:47):
around yourself that supports you as an empathetic being rather
than challenges you as an empathetic being, your entire reality
is altered. And not only are you surrounding yourself with
people that make you feel safe or opportunities or experiences,
but you're also granting so much permission for the people
around you, and that moves out into this larger ripple
(10:09):
of influence. So when we do honor ourselves, we actually
make it so much easier for the people in our
lives who are like, you're too sensitive, you're to this.
We give them room to feel those feelings too. And
I think it's not really talked about that's really important
to remember, is that people who come down on you
in sort of like negation of your emotional experiences or
(10:33):
like your energy or who you are. Very often those
people probably have more in common with you than you realize.
And somebody once told them stop crying. It's not good.
You need to stop doing this. And what those people
are trying to do that are telling you, they're trying
to protect you from experiencing what they experience. They're like,
if you cry, people make fun of you, if you're
(10:54):
overly emotional, people are gonna think something bad about you.
They're gonna think you're unprofessional, or're gonna think all these things.
They're trying to protect you, and they don't realize what
they're doing in the process that they are just perpetuating
the damage that they experienced. So I really try to
like turn my gaze on people who do have maybe
like a negative opinion about my emotionality. I try to
(11:16):
turn my gaze onto them with like just deep compassion
and maybe even talk to them like, can you tell
me why you feel that way? Can you explain that
to me? Did that come from someone important in your
life that taught you that? And are you trying to
teach me something? Because in early life, I mean, all
you feel is the criticism, like all you feel is
the rejection. But when you take the time to ask
questions or consider the source, or consider approaching it with compassion,
(11:40):
being an EmPATH actually becomes a gift and you're not
only supporting yourself, but you're changing the experience of the
people around you. And it's actually so beautiful when you
make space for that to happen, you know, And it's
also really hard.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I feel like as an impath, you talk about so
many of the benefits of it.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
The thing that I've struggled with the most is that there's.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Few and far between that are impass So you feel
very isolated and you feel like such a deep feeler
in a world that doesn't feel anything, you know. And
so I think, on that flip side of that, of
always being that one, it never feels reciprocated to you.
So how do you like suggest some people maybe can
(12:24):
counteract such a world that has become very hardened to
a lot of things when you're somebody who that just
hasn't been the case. You know.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I hate to disagree with you, because I think I
love it amazing. No, I love agreeing, But what I
will say is that what I've learned from working with
thousands of people, whether it's you know, billionaire clients or
like single moms who can also be billionaires. By the way,
I've learned that everybody is soft. Everyone is soft, and
(12:56):
everyone is seeking space to be soft, but they just
really need permission. And I think that's kind of what
I'm trying to express, is like the people that do
make it hard for you very often, they're also having
a really hard time and they're just trying to figure
out how to have an easier time, even if that
means trying to justify their own choices by trying to
(13:19):
make you make those same choices. So again, we can't
change everybody, right, and we that's not our job. And
I think that's like the wound of the umpath as
we think we're supposed to heal everybody. But what we
can do is plant seeds. Yeah, we plant seeds of possibility.
We ask questions, we leave with a remark, we offer
something kind and if it's not reciprocated in the moment.
(13:41):
It's so important to remember to depersonalize your responses from people.
And I know it's like such a cliche, like people
people say to you is really how they feel about themselves.
But it is true, and so I've just really learned
how to be a listener, and when someone is coming
with dissent against me, I'm really really clear that they're
talking to themselves. And when I'm able to sort of
(14:04):
reframe it that way, I have a lot of compassion.
And that's not to say that people don't have legitimate
critique of my energy or my approach, orm I whatever,
and I'm open to that. I'm open to feedback. But
I think, especially as an EmPATH, you're able to learn
more easily than others when some feedback that's offered to
you is hitting home and like actually feels like it's
(14:25):
marking something that might need to be thought about, or
when it's like clearly a projection, and I think it's
really important to like take the time, take the moment
to listen and remind yourself, this person is saying this
to me not because of me, but because of them.
And so what I'm really hearing is how they feel
about themselves. And when you're able to approach it from
(14:45):
that place, A you're not feeling the sting yourself, and
B you're able to just maybe like relieve yourself from
that situation, or like remove yourself from that situation with
just a lot of compassion and inner comfort, rather than
leaving with like the shame or guilt of like, oh, yeah,
I'm wrong. I'm wrong because I think. I think when
you really think about it, you take a moment and
you ask yourself, like, is it so bad to know
(15:08):
and feel what other people feel? Is it so bad
to be able to connect with others on that deeper level?
And the answer is no. And that's the thing I
really want empaths to understand is like you are able
I don't want to say to use empathy, but you're
able to navigate empathy in a way that actually supports
you and your experience. So I always tell, like my
CEO clients, or like, you know, my business clients, your
(15:31):
empathy is a gift because when you walk into a room,
you already know exactly what's going on in everybody's energy.
And even though that can feel overwhelming, it doesn't have to.
And you're able to use that to build deeper rapport,
deeper connections, to really ingratiate yourself to people, and to
create genuine forms of connection that serve both people on
(15:53):
both sides. It's not necessarily about like how can I
use this to my advantage to manipulate people, but like,
how can I soften the energy of the experience for everybody?
And when you do, you end up being the most
liked person in the room.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I really love that you challenged me on that. I
love hearing you talk about it in the perspective that
you have.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Is just it's so hopeful and so full.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Of empathy, literally because you're an EmPATH, but also because
as impaths maybe you've experienced this with some people. I
do feel like based on the course of where our
life is in that moment, is how we feel towards
other impaths and having our empathy, and like, I had
just went through something that was hard, so of course
my natural reaction is like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Take it back. I don't want it anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And the life correlation being an impath is really difficult.
So you just reminded me of who I am and
I just needed to take a step back in a
second and be like, Okay, no, it's it's all right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So I appreciate that you challenged me in that. I
love what you said. Well, I also want to just
take a moment to validate you, because it is part
of the process. And I think I just want to
be a voice of encouragement because the entire higher world
is already really anti mpath like and we obviously don't
(17:07):
need more of that. We need more of the because
for instance, like so I teach intuitive development, I help
people develop their intuitive abilities. And one of the first
things that people always sort of bring forward as like
like a like a contestant of like becoming more intuitive.
They're always so afraid of seeing something that they don't
want to see, or like calling upon an energy that,
(17:28):
like they've been taught is dangerous or scary. And I've
been psychic my whole life, and I ain't never run
into a demon. Let me tell you that right now.
Like I've never had a negative experience. I've been in
like haunted spaces or haunted houses, or like spaces where
there's a collection of energy that's trying to you know,
that's stuck or confined. But I'm never afraid because it's
just energy. It's like literally invisible that can't do anything
(17:50):
to me. But also like I have empathy for that
energy that's stuck there, that doesn't want to be stuck there.
And when you approach anything with love, you can only
be met with love. Even if it's at first like
pain or like there's layers in front of it, there's
still love underneath that, because that's all. People are inherently good.
And I maybe I'm pineing the sky girly, but I've
(18:12):
been doing this for a while and I've been connecting
with people, and what I have found is that even
under what seems like dark, there is just somebody wanting
to be loved, and someone looking for love, and someone
looking for connection in all the wrong places. So I
want to validate for you that, like, yeah, when you
get hurt, you want to just curl up and hide away.
(18:34):
And trust me, that is one of my like it's
one of my tried and true go tos, like I
put myself in a tiny little shell. But what I
really learned, and I had to learn it the hard way,
which is why I want to teach it to people
so they don't have to do it the hard way.
It Yeah, I learned that, like when you open your
heart up, when you want to close it off, is
the time you need to open it up the most,
is the time you need to reach out to your
(18:55):
friends and you may find like it happened to me,
I had to open up about something really difficult that
I was going through, and I opened up the three
friends and two of them were like, ooh, that's kind
of a lot, and the other one was like, thank
you so much for telling me that. Thank you so
much for opening my eyes to what you're going through
so I can be a better friend to you. And
did it hurt when those two people responded harshly? Damn right, absolutely.
(19:18):
But what I discovered was, Okay, I'm in a certain
space in my life, in this moment where those particular
people aren't safe spaces for me. But I'm so clear
about the person who is, and now I know where
my emotions are welcome, and where my energy's welcome, and
where my needs are welcome. And that person also knows
that they have that same experience with me, and that
(19:38):
built a deeper rapport and a deeper connection. And guess what,
I'm still friends with the other two people as well.
We just had the opportunity to explore maybe why they
reacted that way when I opened up because they struggle
with vulnerability, but just because someone can't receive your vulnerability
doesn't mean that it's not worth sharing. It falls on
the right ears and it falls on the wrong ears,
(19:59):
and that acts as a filter. And that's how you
know where your energy needs to be moved toward and
where it needs to take space. So yeah, like it's
a little bit of a dirty work kind of process,
but when you do it, it's so rewarding and it's
so good. And so I'm happy that we saw that differently.
And I also just want to say, like, I have
(20:19):
so much empathy for you because like I can feel it.
I feel your heart, you know, like I feel what
you're moving through, and I can like almost feel the
tears in my eyes, and like your feelings are valid,
and it's okay to want to hide away. It's just
not okay to actually act on it, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, you just made me cry because you're like I
felt it, and I was like, oh gosh, it's coming,
it's happening, Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, and that's okay. I mean, this is your show.
Maybe you don't want to cry on your show, but.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
No, I'm very open. Everybody's seen everything.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I totally.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You did also mention in that talking about intuition and
I think that's another thing that some people can really
struggle with as you move through life, because our intuition
is meant to be our guide. It's it's supposed to
help us through and understanding people and how we should
move through situations.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
But like, once your intuition.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Gets a little like hit cracked and pushed against, you
start to not trust it. So how can you move
through like constant trusting of Like, no, my intuition knows
what it's doing. I just have to allow it to
keep going. Like how do we do that?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Such a great question. I like to call our intuition
the voice of our authentic self. And our authentic self
is not just who we are in this lifetime, but
it's who we've always been, who will always be. And
there's also like sparks of the greater collective loving energy
(21:50):
within that authentic self. And so your intuition is the
voice of your authentic self, it's the voice of spirit.
And where those two things come to meet as your roadmap,
your guide. And I always tell people the needle on
the compass of intuition is joy. And I know it's
like quite cliche, like follow your bliss, but honestly, that
(22:11):
is the key. And I think the thing that I've
really learned over my lifetime of following my intuition is
that the results are not always immediate, and like that's
the thing that we want that we look for. We're like,
if it's if it's what I'm supposed to do, then
it's gonna feel good right away. Wrong, No, that's not correct.
It's not going to feel great. Patience is so hard,
(22:33):
totally totally. But we always see like any sort of
of like resistance as a no, And that's not necessarily
the case. Sometimes energy has to push against us because
we're rare and ready to go, but divine timing has
not caught up to our ambition or our vision or
our energy. So the dance with your intuition is definitely
(22:55):
one of like a two steps forward, one step back
sort of chatcha kind of vibe. But once you learn
that you're in that dance and you're in that rhythm,
it starts to feel so natural and so good. And
I would also say that our intuition doesn't lead us astray.
It may not take us to places that we expected
or that we wanted to go, or that we projected
(23:16):
ourselves into. But when we are so attached to our
vision of what we think it's supposed to look like,
we leave no room for magic, for miracles for the
universe to work. It's magic for the universe to step
in and intervene and create something incredible to happen for us.
And it's usually when we're not trying that things happen
the most automatically. But we're so afraid to relinquish control
(23:39):
that we push it away, and we don't believe that
there's this force of good that moves through all of us,
that moves us together and will inevitably take us each
to where we belong. So we move against it and
we push against it and we fight and we say,
but I want to go this way, but I want
it to look like this. And it's in doing that
that we actually prolong our happiness, that we actually create
(24:00):
more space between ourselves and our desires. And it's not
to say that you just sit back and do nothing
like on contrure. The universe gives you an assignment and
you follow the assignment. So I'm going to give you
an example. I recently, well my whole life, people told
me I was going to write a book, and I
am I allowed to curse on your show? Yeah? Of course. Okay,
So people told me I was going to write a book,
and I was like, fuck you. I'd rather jump off
(24:22):
a cliff. The last thing I want to do is
write a book. I'll never write a book. You can
never make me write a book. I won't do it.
And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the universe
handed me an opportunity to write a book, and they
gave me not only the opportunity, but the assignment. And
once I got that assignment, one of my friends was like, oh,
you need a literary agent. Take mine. So I met
(24:43):
with the agent and she was like, you need a proposal.
You need to find someone to write a proposal. Connected
me with someone to write a proposal. I've been on
this like giant journey of interviewing literary agents and proposal writers.
But I've been hitting some financial blocks because it's definitely
like a financially heavy endeavor and so it's not like
exactly where I want to be putting my resources right now.
So I sat back and I was kind of like,
(25:04):
what gives universe? You told me to write a book.
I found an agent. I found a proposal writer. What's
the problem? And I literally heard, we didn't tell you
to get a literary agent. We didn't tell you to
get a proposal writer. We told you to write a book.
And what's the only thing I haven't even started doing
in the process yet. I haven't put down a namn
word for that book. And that was when I realized, like, wow,
(25:27):
I'm trying to control this so deeply. I'm trying to
make sure that the end result is exactly what I
wanted to be, rather than just following the plan, follow
the assignment and take it step by step. Once I
write that book, I'm going to know exactly where it
needs to be, and the world's going to be ready
for it, and the agents and the proposal writers and
the money and all the pieces are going to be
(25:47):
in place. But I was trying to jump the gun
and make sure that I got exactly what I wanted,
how I wanted it, and the universe reminded me that's
not how this works, baby girl, And I was so
grateful to receive that clear and as soon as I did,
I got excited about writing the book, because before that
I was nervous. I was like, I have all these
people to impress, and I have to make sure it's perfect,
and I got to make sure it's like this proposal.
(26:09):
And as soon as I got to put all that away,
I got so stoked about writing this book. And it's
going to be the best book you ever read, because
I'm actually putting my energy into the assignment rather than
into the preparation to make sure that all my hard
work is going to pay off. That's not for me
to figure out. That's for the universe to put into place,
and they've already shown me that they're prepared to support
me in that endeavor, but I have to do my
(26:31):
part first. So it's this process of receive the assignment,
take action upon it, and trust and believe that the
next step will reveal itself when it's time. But the
universe does not operate on our timeline, and as human beings,
we just like really don't like to hear it.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I was like, Oh, you're saying that telling me to
trust and like let control go, and I'm like, Oh,
that makes it so hard. But I know it's important.
I know that it matters and it works for people.
I'm just, you know, still in the process of learning
totally okay, Well, speaking of how you came to this,
(27:09):
I'd love to do like a little intuitive reading here.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
If you're cool with it, absolutely, are you cool with it?
I'm about to reveal your energy to everyone listening. Yeah.
Luckily they love you, so I'm not worried about it. Yeah,
I'm pretty open.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So they've seen and been through all of it with me,
so nothing is new at this point.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, when I read energy, I love to take a
look at people's auras, and usually the color and their
aura will reveal something to me about their energy, either
on one of two levels, on a more circumstantial level
about like what's happening in their world currently, or more
of an authentic level about like what's happening energetically for them,
like who they're here to be, who they arrived as,
(27:52):
and those qualities within them that are sort of innate
and unshakable. So you're gonna get a little bit of
a mix of like who you are and also like
what who you are is going through. So yeah, the
saying right now, yes, yes, just making a moment to
center for a second. Okay, So I love your energy.
(28:14):
I've been so excited about this interview because I've actually
really been wanting an opportunity to do this with you,
and I know we talked about it prior to recording.
You were like, do we think we're gonna have time?
And can we do it? And I already knew you
were gonna ask me that because I wanted to do
it for you anyway. So one of the things that
I think is really cool about your energy innatly is
(28:35):
that you have a lot of yellow and a lot
of purple. And when we see yellow in someone's field,
it's exactly what you might expect. It's like the sunny, warm, optimistic, inviting,
like you are everyone's friend and you want to use
the confidence that you have to instill confidence in others,
Like any good that you receive, you're so eager to
(28:57):
give that to other people. And I just want you
to know I love that about you. But the yellow
is also a very intellectual number or a very intellectual color,
like it is not something to be underestimated, but it
often is because you present with such like warmth and
inviting energy that they sometimes wonder if there's any substance
behind it. And very often when we see like CEOs
(29:20):
or we see like highly technical people like doctors or
engineers or data analysts. They have a lot of yellow
in their field because it's the color of intellect and intelligence,
whereas the purple is the color of intuition. That's the
part of you, that's the mpath. She's like the soft,
sensitive indigo girly, like she's just here to be everyone's friend.
Like you're kind of a care bear, like in the
(29:41):
best way possible.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Nobody's ever compared me to a care bear, and I
love it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
But that combination is just so beautiful because you have
this gorgeous balance of intellect, confidence and intuition, and that's
who you're here to be. You're here to be like
a shining light that allows others to be and to
experience themselves that way too. Like if she can do it,
I can do it. And that's like that authentic energy
(30:06):
in you that just wants to be seen for who
you are. But that endpath in you is like, ugh,
when I show myself to people, it's not always received
the nicest and sometimes people have things to say and
it's painful. So it feels like there's kind of a
little bit of a dichotomy going on for you, where
there's a lot of blue in your field circumstantially, which
(30:27):
tells me that, like you're on a path to even
bigger forms of like facilitation leadership, like teaching, guiding, speaking,
like podcasting, Like all of this is very much like
your voice is meant to be heard. You're here as
a channel, you're here as a messenger, and it's not
necessarily that you have to like channel from the ether,
but like you are. You might just not know that
(30:48):
you are, but everything that you share, all the wisdom
that you have and the way that you deliver it
with like a voice of authenticity and truth, that's just
growing for you. And there's a part of you that
already knows that, a part of you that knows that
you're onto like big shit, and so there's all this
other part of you that's like no, remember, like when
people see us, they say mean things and they do
(31:08):
mean things, and it's so scary, and there's kind of
this like mixing of voices. Now, we also are seeing
a lot of green in your field energetically, and that's
showing up circumstantially as well. So matters of the heart
are very much like at the center in the forefront
right now, and I can feel that in you, like
you have probably one of the biggest hearts of anybody
we'll ever meet, and right now, like you're building all
(31:31):
these walls around it. You're like, I'm afraid, like you
like there has been some pain, uh, And I know
you've shared that with your audience, so obviously there's been
some pain showing up for you and right now, and
I would love to like check them with even six months,
because I have a feeling you're gonna feel real different.
But at the moment, you're like I'm not letting anyone
and I'm locking all these doors like stay out, Like
(31:52):
there's a lot of walls being built, And I just
want to say, I don't think that's a bad thing.
And I know that you might be like what, uh,
It's not a bad thing because right now you need yourself,
like you need space to tune back into your truth.
And also there's a lot of like inner questioning like
how could I have not seen this? Or like there's
(32:12):
a lot of like shame and like story towards yourself,
which I just want to say, like, please stop doing that,
because you don't deserve to feel that way about yourself.
And if anything, what you are able to do is
see the potential in people. You're able to see their
truth before they're able to see it, just because they
can't act on it, just because they might not be
able to stand in it. And like, be in their
(32:33):
truth doesn't mean that you were wrong. It just means
that you believed in that person more than they believed
in themselves. And they couldn't be around someone who loved
them so much and had so much faith and belief
in them that because it caused them dissonance. There's a
cognitive dissonance that was happening for them, Like I feel
this way about myself, but you feel this way about me,
and I don't like it and I don't want to
be around that. And it doesn't mean that you were wrong.
(32:54):
And I really need you to walk away from this
experience knowing that there's nothing wrong with you. Like tickers
working great, your brain is working great, your radar's working great,
Like you are a very clear person. You live through truth,
you live through authenticity. You are who you say you are,
and you stand in that. You walk your talk, and
(33:14):
people who don't know how to do that, they're not
going to be able to stand next to you, like
people who can't walk their talk, can't stand next to you,
and you might not know because they might be trying,
they might really be trying to keep up, but eventually
they might have a hard time. So I just want
to say, like, if you feel like you need to
shut your heart off a little bit and like get
back into yourself and reacquaint yourself with your own vibration
(33:37):
and vibration, your vibration of independence and like clarity and
who you are, that's fine. Like take that time, because
I can tell I know you're going to open your
heart back up before you know it. Like this isn't permanent,
this is just a moment, and you're you're allowed to
have a moment. You're allowed to not be on all
the time. You're allowed to need yourself, and you have
(33:59):
permission to take some space and tend to yourself right now.
The last thing I'll say is that I also do
see quite a lot of like orangey red showing up
in your field, somewhere between the circumstantial and the authentic.
So people better watch out because you have big ideas.
There's a lot of like creative endeavors and like places
that you want to take your creative energy and people
(34:20):
need to be listening because your ideas are good and
whether people listen to them or not, you're still going
to make them happen somehow, some way, And that red
is letting us know, like your financial needs are always
going to be met, like your creativity is on fire
when you stand in your truth, the way you want
to do things, and the way that you want to
deliver your messages and the creative pursuits that you want
(34:41):
to pursue in order to like bring that megaphone up
to your voice. Always know that, like you know what's best.
And if someone doesn't agree, or someone's not ready to
like invest in it or take the steps with you,
find somebody who is, Like, you don't need that person
because your idea is exactly what it needs to be,
Like you're moving in the right direction, so you know
that's sound fame and you can cut out any part
(35:01):
of it that you don't love. But no, I would
love to check in with you and ask how that
resonated as you received it, and any part of it
that didn't resonate.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
No, Honestly, like you hit the nail on the head
so many times. I was just sitting here like kind
of grasping for air because I'm like, how is somebody
seen me so.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Clearly right now?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And like you know, it's emotional in a great way
and in a holy crap way, like yeah, I should
have warned you. No, it's okay, like you know, it's
it's just crazy how life always brings you the things
that you need when you need them, and I needed
that in that time and moment, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
So much for doing it.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I'm like, Okay, now I can like take a deep
breath and you know what, I am gonna walk away
and I'm gonna stop questioning myself because I needed to
hear that from somebody.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Honestly, I didn't. I'm gonna be so real with you.
I did not mean to go that deep, but spirit
told me what to say, and I was like, Okay,
I'm just gonna say it. And that does.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Sometimes I will say, maybe that's the biggest challenge, just
like I tell it like it is.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Maybe a little let's put in my mouth a little.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Just like you told me to, like not stop like
you you keep telling it like it is, because like
we need to hear that, you know, and you never
know when somebody else is needing to hear what you
have to say, so please.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
You're an amazing person. I just want you to know it.
I wish I could give you a big hug right now.
I wish we weren't so far away.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
But I know next time you come to Nashville, we're
gonna have to do another one of these.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Last time I came to Nashville, I got alcohol boys men.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
So okay, maybe not that version exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We do a little tamed down version the next time.
I'm older now. I'm older now, so yeah, we're definitely
due for another trip. The rare tiger always comes out.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It doesn't matter, right, So that's okay, but we'll tone
it down just a little bit at least to have
another conversation exactly. So I thank you so much for
coming on and being here with me and doing that.
I just I can't thank you enough for all your
words of wisdom and just hopefully some people not only
resonated with what I'm feeling, but also the impact talk
and the intuition and it helps them through what they're going.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So thank you. Thank you for opening the space for
people to talk about something they might not usually hear
about so you're opening portals of possibility for people all
the time in ways you might not even know.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Oh oh my goodness, Okay, I'm gonna go before you
make me cry. I love to having my psychic bestie
Zoey greco on to not only chat about impasse and intuition,
but for her intuitive insight on all of my auras.
And that was our first time ever meeting slash talking
(37:33):
to each other. So if you're not a believer, I
think you should totally become one. It was a super
fun interview for me to do and I hope you
all enjoyed it like I did. If you're loving the podcast,
please subscribe, rate and review. It really means so much
to me, and follow the podcast Instagram. Take this personally.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I love you all.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I hope you have a very happy Halloween week and
I can't wait to talk to you next time.
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