April 22, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- David Sanger's new book, and Jack's dispute with Ian Bremmer...
- What We're Watching--3 Body Problem & Manhunt...
- Violence at the Columbia & Yale anti-Israel protests...
- Final Thoughts.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I've always been a fan of David Sanger of the
New York Times, used to watch him on Charlie Rose
all the time, always read his articles. He doesn't write
that many, and then he occasionally writes a book. He
writes a lot about conflicts with other countries, really writes
a lot about war and cyber stuff and various weapons
and that. I don't know what his official title is,
but anyway, he's got a new book that just came
out over the weekend called New Cold Wars, China's Rise,
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Russia's invasion, and America's struggled to defend the West, which
couldn't be more up my alley if he tried. I mean,
if I could have assigned a person and given them
a task, it would have been him. And this anyway,
I started on the book, and I was thrilled that
he opened the book with the quote I was talking
about last week that I do not understand. Why isn't
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more talked about? Is it like just a part of
every conversation? He opened the book with the caught on
a hot mic conversation between President She of China and
Vladimir Putin of Russia, in which she said, she said,
now by.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
This sea show, That's what she said, right.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
President she said to Putin, not knowing anybody could hear them.
After he left the Kremlin he was about to get
into his big limo. Right now, there are changes the
likes of which we haven't seen in a hundred years,
and we should be the ones driving those changes together,
and Putin said, I agree. Sanger opened his book with
that quote because it is monumental that is happening, and
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it's been you know, good set out loud.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Were Trump or Taylor Swift involved, no, then I don't care.
And the books is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm already into the how the whole world, particularly the
United States, both parties were so convinced that we could
bring China and to a certain set Russia into the
into our our way of looking at the world, just
through economics. I mean, there would just be so much
money to be made that Russia would abandon whatever job
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stuff they wanted to do. China would abandon whatever job
stuff they wanted to do because they just want to
get rich. Everybody want to gets rich. And you know,
I'll tell you what. You know that Ian Bremer clip
that I was overagging the pudding. I am more convinced
than ever that I was not overagging the pudding. And
I think I am right and Ian is wrong the.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Most trump remember the context the pudding in question.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You have that clip, you still have Anyway, we're talking
Ian Bremmer, and I said, I think it turns out
to be interesting news that president she is a communist
and is more interested in, you know, run the world
or takeing Taiwan. And Ian Bremer is one of those
guys that and maybe he'll turn out to be right,
but he thinks people do things in their best interest,
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and they don't. All the time throughout history do things
people in their best interest. It would be in China's
best interest to continue to get richer and richer and
richer and join the rest of the world and just
interact with the United States.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
But ain't late. She's built built.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
He wants to take over the world, and he wants
to make the world like the Communist Party is. So
I think that you may be overagging. I don't think
I was in neither does David Sanger. She is hell
bent on taking over the world and he doesn't care
what it does to their economy.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That is what he wants to do. And Putin's the
same way.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He wants to restore the Soviet Union, and you know
he doesn't care what it does to his economy either.
They want to run the world. They want to be dictators,
they want to well, they want to be in charge.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Right. I think it's hard for people to understand that
the Chinese economy is a means by which to achieve
the f word is hegemony, the regular guy word as
being in charge. The economy is not the point in China.
It's a tool. It's a means to an end.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Anyway, both parties and our entire outlook on the world
for the past like forty years has been that China
would come around, And as David Senger points at his book,
it's only fairly recently that both parties are now one
hundred percent. That didn't work, That is not going to work,
and holy crap, we've got a serious problem going on now.
How are we going to confront the rise of China,
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Russia and Iran working together? Anyway, Let's hear a little
bit of him. He was interviewed yesterday on Face the
Nation about his new book.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Here's David.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
So, those Nixon Kennedy debates were, you know, at the
height of the moment of a US contest against the
Soviet Union, which was terrifying and nuclear, but there was
a simplicity about it, you know, there was a predictability
about it. We understood who controlled their nuclear weapons, they
understood who controlled ours.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
We knew who to call. The new Cold are quite different.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
We've got Russia and China coming together in a periodic partnership.
I wouldn't say it's a full alliance. We have other
players like Iran and North Korea, as you were discussing
with our earlier guests, supplying them becoming sort of what
the Iranians call an access of resistance to the US.
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It is a far more volatile, I think, far more
dangerous period than we had even then.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I thought that was a heck of a statement. It's
a more vulnerable, dangerous period than nineteen sixty.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Oh, clearly. Yeah. Yeah. The flow chart in the Cold War,
the good old Cold War, was very easy to understand.
It was US in them and they had various satellite states.
But you know, Czechoslovakia was not a power center in
of itself. It was a puppet of Moscow. Obviously, now
you got kind of a multi polls within their pole
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thing going on. Plus we were wholly.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
A awake to the threat in both parties. I mean, well,
he's about to talk about here. Kennedy and Nixon were
who's stronger on confronting the Soviet Union and Union and
more concerned about making sure China doesn't get in bed
with the Soviet Union. It wasn't a one party and
a half. Think why worry about it.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Like we are now defending TikTok for instance, Senator Schumer,
just one more clip from David Sanger on this.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And yet, as you point out, our ability to discuss
it as a nation has somewhat degraded. You watch those
Kennedy Nixon debates and put aside who was sweating and
who looked young and vigorous and all that. It was
an incredibly sophisticated argument, largely about nuclear deterrence. I'm afraid
that we're not having that incredibly sophisticated argument today, in
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sixty years more than sixty years later. But the vote
yesterday which you've been discussing about Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
At the end of the day turned out to be.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
A fairly overwhelming vote in favor of the US pushing
against the Russians in Ukraine and perhaps beyond.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, you think we're not having sophisticated debates about the
rise of China and the Soviet Union and our politics currently. Yeah,
I would agree. It's horrifying the idea of it. And
by the way, if you're interested in the book at all,
but you were thinking in New York Times Reporter, so far,
in his interview and in everything I've written in the book,
he has been equally of blame of George Bush and
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Barack Obama and everybody for not getting what was happening
here and being asleep at the switch on the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
But the one truth that we're so bad at recognizing
this country, at least during my life span, and I
hope I've learned this lesson, is the fact that it
took hundreds of years, and even if you compressed it,
because everything moves faster these days, it took, you know,
well hundreds of years for the idea of self governance
and democracy to bloom in the Western world. I mean,
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the Greeks tried it, you know, the Romans had to
go with a magna karta and on and on. English
common law took a long damn time to leach into
the consciousness of the West. The idea that China's going
to make a few bucks and decide, hey, representative government's
a good idea. We have virtually no experience in a
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thousand years in this country, but I love it. Or
in Russia, the land of the Czars and the Soviet
Union haven't had a representative democracy except for a cup
of vodka there at the end of the nineties, all
of a sudden, they're going to come around and say,
tell us more about this congress you run. Or in
the Middle East, the various Islamic dictatorships and tin Horn
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dictators like Saddam Hussein. All we have to do is
show them a copy of the constitution. They'll figure it out.
Assists societies don't work that way.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Man. There are few things that actually give me chills.
But when I heard him open with that quote that
I've mentioned so many times, she's saying to putin there
are changes going on that haven't happened one hundred years,
and we should drive these changes. That is freaking world
history changing, frightening stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, it's the Stalin Hitler Non Aggression Pact, which took
an exciting twist later.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But yeah, and you know, kind of fitting in with
this on a lower level not important, but to give
you an idea of where we're headed, the Paris Olympics
have been rocked by a scandal which are there coming
up in less than one hundred days, with a whole
bunch of Olympic swimmers from China and a drug test
that they failed back in twenty twenty one. But it
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turns out the international governing body had kept that quiet.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
And it has now just come to light.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
So China had so much inner influence over this governing body,
just like they had so much influence over the who
who kept their mouths shut about COVID, that they were
able to keep it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
A secret that all these Chinese swimmers had cheated.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's that's that's what's gonna happen with and who cares
about swimming, but every aspect of life is going to
be that way, and you're gonna have these world organizations,
the UN or whoever is as often as not side
with the Russia China, Iran over the United States and Europe.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, it's a pretty clear case of the side that
is not cooperative gets their way, the side that's gonna
be a bully. Yeah, the who They come to the
US and say, hey, that we got evidence that leaked
out of a lab in Nebraska. The US says, oh
my gosh, what happened, let's talk about it. China says,
you say, that will ruin you. The bully wins.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So China said that there was some sort of contamination
that must have happened with the tests. A US official
says that basically said, that's bull ass.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
They don't believe it at all.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But the but the international body was willing to go
with the China story about it was a painted tests.
So we will give them another opportunity to test, which,
of course, then they'll make sure they're clean on that test.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And sure, of course, yeah, they'll get some urine from
dissidence held in Chinese concentration camps and it'll be lily white,
cleaning clean, very nice. Nice.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I told my kids on because I was getting into
this book heavily over the weekend. I told my kids
on Sunday, which I might have the most be the
most frightening parents in America. But I told my kids,
either knowing the two biggest things in your lives are
going to be the rise of China and Russia versus
the United States and AI, those two things are going
to dominate the rest of your lives.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I'm just letting you know. I think, Hey, Dad, is sure,
nice day? Can we go shoot baskets? Hmmm? Wow, that's
controversial parenting certainly if you want them to sleep well
at night, well yeah, well the average adult can't even
handle that stuff. But yeah, there are leaders of tomorrow.
God dang it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
But when I was a kid and I would read
all this history, I assumed that, you know, if the
smart people had been paying attention, they'd have seen this
stuff coming and could stop it. And now I'm older
and it realizes, even if you see it coming, you
can't stop it.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Right. Building a consensus is very difficult, you know. Getting
back to several stories you've talked about, whether it's kids
with smartphones who have the Internet all day long, twelve
year old kid in a park has the Internet, What
a great idea and everything on the internet. People not
willing to say no to their kids people not willing
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to stand up at the big parade you're at in
a college town, is people with f bomb laden placards
supporting Hamas paraded down that nobody had the courage to
stand up and say something. Well, the idea that we're
going to do the really hard and dangerous thing and
confront these totalitarians before they take over the world, good
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luck with that. I'm sorry, I'm very cynical about mankind today.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
When Stormy Daniel take in the stand in the trial,
that's n That'll be something to pay attention to.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
That's what I need. Will she try to ring her
re re recycled fame out for one more trot around
America's third tier strip clocks probably make fifteen thousand dollars
doing twenty five different appearances total. Right, we got more
in the way, stay.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Here, army, strawl and getti.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
US airlines this year expected to receive forty percent fewer
planes than they planned for last year. United Airlines in
Southwest pausing hiring United, even offering their pilots unpaid leave.
Alaska Airlines, along with Southwest, unsure how many flights they
can fly. All of the airlines pointing directly to Boeing
seven thirty seven max production delays. Boeing's number of airplanes
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deliveries sank to eighty three in their last quarter compared
to one hundred and fifty seven the one prior. All
of this on the brink of sky high travel demand.
Major airlines bracing for a huge tra season following a
record setting gear for TSA travel numbers better.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Important for on products I'm exporting for their products.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
The president, they're commenting on Boeing's struggles and the import
of Furderberg products as opposed to the export of Furderber products.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Set important foreign products. I'm exporting for their products.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I'm sorry, instead of important foreign products, I'm exporting federal products.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
That important foreign products. I'm exporting for their products.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It's a controversial policy, but one he seems dedicated to.
Jack Well.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Ancient actor Michael Douglas, who's in some new TV show somewhere,
said he talks to Biden and Joe Biden's metal acuity
as sharp as attack, says the one hundred year old
Michael Douglas.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Okay, great, thanks Mike, and congratulations on your new Ben
Franklin vehicle. There on the netf like, oh, that's right,
he's clean. Ben Franklin. Yeah, I've been watching The Three
Body Problem with Judy, the hot Netflix series, limited run series.
Pretty interesting. We've compelling, a little heavy on the video
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game angle. You'd have to watch it to understand, but
it's not clear to me. There's it begins with us
a brutal scene from Maoist China, Cultural Revolution China, and
there's a thread of a person from there who's important,
but it's not clear to me if that will become
more significant than it seems. But anyway, it's it's pretty
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compelling stuff if you're into the science fiction.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
We started Manhunt. Have you seen any of that on
Apple TV?
Speaker 8 (15:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I've had a couple of people recommend that is the
best Lincoln assassinated show I've ever.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Seen, so good.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Little Gory is a little rough for the kids. We
all looked away a few times, but uh man, is
that good? If you feel like the whole that story.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You know, it's funny between Bill O'Reilly's Killing Lincoln book
and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer. I've gotten kind of cynical
about exploiting Lincoln and fictionalizing it and being dopey, but
I've heard this one's pretty dark good. This is the
other direction.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It's like makes it so incredibly real and and like
like you can just it makes it real again, as
opposed to.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Judy's out tonight too. Yes, anyway, it's real good. I
got off on my own tangent there. I was going
to in the wake of the Boeing discussion and the
farber Or Products was gonna mention, if you're not into
following the markets and all you you might not have
heard this, but your magnificent seven stocks, that's your big
(16:50):
tech stocks last week lost nearly a trillion dollars in
combined market value. That got absolutely murdered. Any particular reason, Yeah,
A handful of things, uh, you know, Tesla's discouraging results
and a couple of other things that checking the clock.
I don't have time to describe. Maybe we can touch
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on that in a minute. Plus, the campus protests are
getting uglier, crazier. Universities are shutting down completely.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Stay with us, Armstrong, Andy, You'll make us crown.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And who is a hasa? I'm looking for that when
i've I've got one in Colombia where they were chanting
al casam, you make us proud kill another soldier. Now,
oh my god, now there's channing. We say, just as
you say, how burn Tel Aviv to THESS. We love you,
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We support your rockets too. This is on some of
the so called elite college campuses of the United States
of America.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
This is a new one. This is from a professor
at Columbia. Earlier today, Columbia University refused to let me
onto campus. They deactivated my card, not letting me onto
the campus because they cannot protect my safety as a
Jewish professor. They said, So they deactivated your card, so
you couldn't even choose.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Yourself whether or you want to show up.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
He said, I have not just a civil rights civil
right is a Jewish person to be on campus. I
have a right as a professor employed by the University
of beyond campus.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Wow. So the story earlier was that a Columbia rabbi
had told Jewish students leave campus, go home. You are
not safe here and they can't keep you safe. So
now the university itself, which I believe has gone to
remote classes, yeah, is now not even letting Jewish professors
on the campus. Meanwhile, in Yalees, a huge phalanx of
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cops in riot gears swarmed Yale University's Kinnectic campus earlier
today started arresting students and others who had been staging
the anti Israel protest encampment there for several days. Some
of that chanting was taking place. That should be the
one next stop for Trump.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
After a court day, go up there the way the
Columbia protesters are and make some strong statement. Although he's
you know, he's being really coy on the Ukraine Israel stuff.
He's trying to let people assume that he's with them
on that and not take a side.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, a Jewish student was jabbed in the eye and
Yale and had to go to the hospital, jabbed in
the eye with a flag, a Palestinian flag. You had
an episode I think in Colombia on Columbia's campus where
they tore an American flag down from a veterans memorial
and burnt it to enormous cheers the assembled college lunatics.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I was Yale because I watched this that was this morning,
and yeah, the cheers from those Yale college kids when
the US flag was taken down is so disturbing.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
The famous Havid Yad has been closed to all humanity
lest a camp be set up there. As one of
the radical organizations that's helping organize this this Marxist madness
has said that we want every campus in America to
have one of these occupation camps in it, and I
thought it was brilliant what Jonah Goldberg said. We quoted
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it earlier. The easiest way out of this mess many
universities have made for themselves, and that is absolutely appropriate.
I mean, as I said earlier, they created a monster.
And the fact that you have to explain well that
expression means if you create a monster, you can't control
a monster, and sooner or later it'll turn on you,
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maybe immediately, whatever it'll do damage that you never imagined.
It would do well by removing all conservative thinkers from
college campuses, or visually all, and substituting not like moderate
liberal professors, but radical Marxist lunatics spouting DEI and radical
queer theory and gender theory and radical critical race theory.
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They indoctrinated their kids into these radical ideas. But anyway,
back to Jonah, only easiest way out of the mess
many universities have made for themselves is also the most appropriate.
If any group of students threatens to seize the university
and force administrators to do their will, they should be
put on notice. Any violence or attempt to physically intimidate, trespass,
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or otherwise hamper the proper functioning of the institution will
result in expulsion or arrest or both, and outsiders doing
any of the above will be arrested. Any administrative attempts
at cleverness or efforts to claim this is a really
complicated issue will invite more mayhem and undermine academia's credibility
even further. As if it could be enforce the rules
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or stop pretending your rules aren't objectively anti Jewish, hm,
any other cause, any other political point of view, they
would never put up with us. And again, if students
feel it is so important that universities divest from or
boycott Israel, they can show the courage of their convictions
and go to a school with the investment policies they like.
They can have their say in the application process. But
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the idea that students, just because they're just so angry,
should be dictating investment policies or nearly any policies any
university is absurd. Of course, it is you get a
bunch of angry children making demands. Tell them to go
to Hell, or tell them, hey, pipe down, get off
the quad, or you're going to be expelled, and then
expel them next freaking day. This is not complicated. Don't
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try to be clever. As Jodah put it so eloquently.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So as Joe already mentioned, this Orthodoxy rabbi at Columbia
sent a message to the almost three hundred Jewish students
recommending that they go home until it's safe for them
on campus. That Columbia can't keep him keep them safe.
Mark Fieson of the Washington Post. He's a conservative At
the Washington Post wrote, Joe Biden condemned what he called
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the anti Semitic bile of right wing marchers in Charlottesville, Virginia,
and called it a defining moment for America. Today we're
witnesing Charlottesville happening on the campus at Columbia University, but
Biden is silent. This is a defining moment for the presidency.
Will he keep pandering to the anti Semitic left or
confront it the way he did the anti Semitic right.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Great question.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
He was so disturbed by the anti Semitic left that
he ran for president, or so he claims.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Ben Shapiro made a great quote point. I think he
said the university's quote have spent literally years telling conservatives
on campus to shut up that they might microaggress the
sensibilities of far left students by saying that boys can't
be girls and the like. They've spent those same years
coddling radical leftists who actively, by the way, that whole
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microaggression thing, that is just to intimidate you into silence.
It's a tool. It's not an argument, it's a tool.
But they've spent those same years coddling radical leftists who
actively undermine the actual functioning of the universities. Columbia's latest
protests were not designed to be peaceful. They were designed
to intimidate and harass. Colombia has no obligation to coddle
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terrorist supporters who harassed students and obstruct the functioning of
the university. Yeah, clearly, sow were reaping what we've sown.
I mean, that's obvious. And while we were sowing it,
planting those seeds, we were trying to tell you that.
And I'm afraid a lot of people thought, I don't
know there's a right wing radio nut jobbery. It brings
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me no pleasure to see these birds coming home to roost.
But when you indoctrinate children and young adults into radical
leftist ideologies for years and years and years, and they
hide it in the schools, the elementary schools especially, you know,
your TikTok videos of your rainbow haired radical teachers talking
about how I've got six months to turn these kids
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into revolutionaries. We let it happen on our watch, sickening.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
How long do you think it will take to unwind,
assuming we even try to unwind it, because I'm not
sure that that's even going to happen.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Oh man. It would call for a huge cleaning out
of the ranks of teachers and professors, rebalancing ideology on
campuses from kindergarten through grad school, if we're serious about
doing it in two and a half to three generations.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
So this gets to the clip we played earlier of
former Attorney General Barr talking about Trump last week and
how he says he will vote for Trump over Biden,
and he's asked, how could that be after the things
you've said, You say he was responsible for the insurrection,
and it did nothing and he was should have been
impeached in all these different things.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
He said, choosing one is Russian roulette.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That would be Trump, because you know, you got a
bolton the shamber and you're spinning and who knows where
it lands, because Trump is a wild card, and like
I don't have the slightest idea where Trump is on Ukraine, Russia,
no idea or standing by Israel. But he said, choosing
Trump is Russian roulette. Choosing Biden is national suicide. Not
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because we go further down this road of this sort
of stuff, no bully pupblic from the president speaking out
against the sort of craziness that's going on around the country.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Right and is compelling, and you know, I'm obviously really
into this stuff and have been for a long time.
But if he were merely letting tens of thousands of
Chinese nationals flow across the border along with the millions
of Venezuelan gang members and hardworking Central Americans you just
want a better life. If we're if it were merely
that the border is open and he's leaving it open,
(26:56):
that is something close to national suicide. I think bars right,
he's a sober dude.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Another thing that happened in Congress over the weekend, and
the addition to passing a bunch of funding and banning TikToker,
attempting to or whatever is, they reauthorize that fiz A
seven h two spine on people Bill learn some interesting
stuff about that yesterday from one of the talk shows,
and other stuff on the way We'll finish strong next
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talk to him. I guess, all right, I don't know.
I don't know how that stuff works. Doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I do.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
The melting clocks I do. I put those paintings now
and then on my Samsung frame in the living room.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Curious. I don't know what that's all about. Why are
the clocks melting? Dolly? Why did you have melting clocks?
Was it a symbol of how mankind is obsessed with
time even as we're mortal. No, I just wanted clucks
made of more durable materials. Thank you, O great one.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So one of the other things Congress did over the
weekend that didn't get that much coverage because it happened
over the weekend late Friday night, they reauthorize the FAIZA
warrant program surveillance program, specifically the seven oh two aspect,
where they can I don't know, listen in on foreign
conversations and it's supposed to protect American citizens if they
(29:29):
get caught up in it. Something interesting I learned in
one of the talk shows yesterday. I think it was
Mark Warner, Democratic senator said, first of all, when the
president does their daily briefing every single day, whoever is president,
sixty percent of the daily briefing comes from the seven
oh two program.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I didn't know that. Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Wow, sixty percent of it is listening in on foreign.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Phone calls, emails, whatever. But he did say five.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Years ago, and I'm supposed to believe always that they've
always you know, this was years ago.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
They've fixed it down. Five years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Thirty percent of the time the FBI was not following
their own guidelines and who should be listened to and
who should not be listening to. A third of the
time the FBI was violating their own rules, which means
your rights and who they listened to and not Now,
of course, and again it's always presented at my whole life.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
That was five years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You know, we reformed and now we got new people
in charge and whatever, and the bad people are gone
and this will never happen again.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah. Whatever. These things move like a sine wave through history.
They get out of control, they're more heavily regulated, everything
gets loose. They get out of control again, they violate
people's rights. There's a crack down up and down, yet down.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You said that last week. There's just no getting out
of this conundrum. The government has to be able to
spy on various things. They will take it too far,
they will get caught, they will back off a little,
but they'll have to continue spy, and there's no getting
out of it.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, I just it's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
A third of the time they violated their own guidelines.
So that whole thing with a carter page in the
Trump campaign, well that wasn't a rarity, not if a
third of the time they do that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Right, Yeah, that's that's a shocking number. I'd say, Well,
there's no repercussion for it. You had Brennan and lying
in front of Congress and various other characters. What's the
other guy's name? I can never remember a clapper lying
in front of Congress? And then to what penalty do
they suffer for that? Lying about surveilling American citizens and
(31:43):
covering it up? They become a highly paid correspondence on CNN,
your go to source for anything intelligence? Right?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Nice?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Right? I know people like Matt Tayibier especially enraged by that.
All of a sudden, the left is embracing the intelligence
state and the federal police powers. Wow, there goes to
show you.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Until the tide turns and it'll be completely different. I
was thinking about this yesterday over the weekend, with all
the talk of Mike Johnson the Speaker, being a profile
and courage and thank god they're supporting the war, and
the cheering there in the in the House when they
passed those bills and people waving Ukrainian flags. I said, Okay,
let's wait a few months till you got a Republican
president and we'll see if all the Democrats are on
(32:26):
board with the wars. I am a little skeptical, une
j that haunting echo at Dan's.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
The album version there, that was wild. Here's your host
for final thoughts, Joe getting Hey, let's get a final
thought from everybody down the crew to wrap things up
for the day. There he is pressing the buttons. Mike
laiders though. Michael final thought.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
You know, years ago I made a jack because he
said he had been wearing shoes that were too small. Well,
I found out that I did. I've been doing the
same thing for all these years. I went to get shoes.
I've always worn a size eleven. They said, you're supposed
to be wearing size twelve, so you're full size off. No,
it's one shoe one foot is eleven point three and
the other one's ten point eight. But they said you
(33:20):
should go up the size, and so I did, and okay,
so here we are.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
So no wonder my feet were bleeding. Yeah, I thought
it was right. I thought it was a ten and
a half my whole life and turned out I'm on eleven. Yeah,
Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman. As a final thought, Katie,
your shoes weren't small. No, it felt horrible. Okay, I know,
I know, I know, all right. I had a final
(33:44):
thought and I know, oh I know. I was just
measured by one foot. It was a small a final
thought for us. Yes, so do that?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Many of you all have turntables and listen to vinyl
album so, I mean, I know hipsters do.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
But is it like that? Commony want is at Target
on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
The Big Taylor Swift display their hundreds and hundreds of
her double album, Like people are gonna buy it and
take it home.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
And throw it on the turntable. Yeah, she's putting out
special edition colored vinyl and stuff. Like it. It sounds great,
vinyl sounds why yeah, I get I'd really like to
invest in a new setup. But does the average twenty
two year old woman have a turntable?
Speaker 8 (34:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Maybe they did, I don't Maybe she's gonna get one,
I don't know. Uhr. Speaking of twenty two year old women,
they are screaming down with America death to Israel on
college camp. I good lord, do we need to clean
out our educational system in this country? I'm not sure
it can be done.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
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Wow, well that would be quite the move. Thanks all
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From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I've always been a fan of David Sanger of the
New York Times, used to watch him on Charlie Rose
all the time, always read his articles. He doesn't write
that many, and then he occasionally writes a book. He
writes a lot about conflicts with other countries, really writes
a lot about war and cyber stuff and various weapons
and that. I don't know what his official title is,
but anyway, he's got a new book that just came
out over the weekend called New Cold Wars, China's Rise,
(00:41):
Russia's invasion, and America's struggled to defend the West, which
couldn't be more up my alley if he tried. I mean,
if I could have assigned a person and given them
a task, it would have been him. And this anyway,
I started on the book, and I was thrilled that
he opened the book with the quote I was talking
about last week that I do not understand. Why isn't
(01:03):
more talked about? Is it like just a part of
every conversation? He opened the book with the caught on
a hot mic conversation between President She of China and
Vladimir Putin of Russia, in which she said, she said,
now by.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
This sea show, That's what she said, right.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
President she said to Putin, not knowing anybody could hear them.
After he left the Kremlin he was about to get
into his big limo. Right now, there are changes the
likes of which we haven't seen in a hundred years,
and we should be the ones driving those changes together,
and Putin said, I agree. Sanger opened his book with
that quote because it is monumental that is happening, and
(01:48):
it's been you know, good set out loud.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Were Trump or Taylor Swift involved, no, then I don't care.
And the books is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm already into the how the whole world, particularly the
United States, both parties were so convinced that we could
bring China and to a certain set Russia into the
into our our way of looking at the world, just
through economics. I mean, there would just be so much
money to be made that Russia would abandon whatever job
(02:27):
stuff they wanted to do. China would abandon whatever job
stuff they wanted to do because they just want to
get rich. Everybody want to gets rich. And you know,
I'll tell you what. You know that Ian Bremer clip
that I was overagging the pudding. I am more convinced
than ever that I was not overagging the pudding. And
I think I am right and Ian is wrong the.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Most trump remember the context the pudding in question.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You have that clip, you still have Anyway, we're talking
Ian Bremmer, and I said, I think it turns out
to be interesting news that president she is a communist
and is more interested in, you know, run the world
or takeing Taiwan. And Ian Bremer is one of those
guys that and maybe he'll turn out to be right,
but he thinks people do things in their best interest,
(03:07):
and they don't. All the time throughout history do things
people in their best interest. It would be in China's
best interest to continue to get richer and richer and
richer and join the rest of the world and just
interact with the United States.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
But ain't late. She's built built.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
He wants to take over the world, and he wants
to make the world like the Communist Party is. So
I think that you may be overagging. I don't think
I was in neither does David Sanger. She is hell
bent on taking over the world and he doesn't care
what it does to their economy.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That is what he wants to do. And Putin's the
same way.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He wants to restore the Soviet Union, and you know
he doesn't care what it does to his economy either.
They want to run the world. They want to be dictators,
they want to well, they want to be in charge.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Right. I think it's hard for people to understand that
the Chinese economy is a means by which to achieve
the f word is hegemony, the regular guy word as
being in charge. The economy is not the point in China.
It's a tool. It's a means to an end.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Anyway, both parties and our entire outlook on the world
for the past like forty years has been that China
would come around, And as David Senger points at his book,
it's only fairly recently that both parties are now one
hundred percent. That didn't work, That is not going to work,
and holy crap, we've got a serious problem going on now.
How are we going to confront the rise of China,
(04:29):
Russia and Iran working together? Anyway, Let's hear a little
bit of him. He was interviewed yesterday on Face the
Nation about his new book.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Here's David.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
So, those Nixon Kennedy debates were, you know, at the
height of the moment of a US contest against the
Soviet Union, which was terrifying and nuclear, but there was
a simplicity about it, you know, there was a predictability
about it. We understood who controlled their nuclear weapons, they
understood who controlled ours.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
We knew who to call. The new Cold are quite different.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
We've got Russia and China coming together in a periodic partnership.
I wouldn't say it's a full alliance. We have other
players like Iran and North Korea, as you were discussing
with our earlier guests, supplying them becoming sort of what
the Iranians call an access of resistance to the US.
(05:22):
It is a far more volatile, I think, far more
dangerous period than we had even then.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I thought that was a heck of a statement. It's
a more vulnerable, dangerous period than nineteen sixty.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Oh, clearly. Yeah. Yeah. The flow chart in the Cold War,
the good old Cold War, was very easy to understand.
It was US in them and they had various satellite states.
But you know, Czechoslovakia was not a power center in
of itself. It was a puppet of Moscow. Obviously, now
you got kind of a multi polls within their pole
(05:56):
thing going on. Plus we were wholly.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
A awake to the threat in both parties. I mean, well,
he's about to talk about here. Kennedy and Nixon were
who's stronger on confronting the Soviet Union and Union and
more concerned about making sure China doesn't get in bed
with the Soviet Union. It wasn't a one party and
a half. Think why worry about it.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Like we are now defending TikTok for instance, Senator Schumer,
just one more clip from David Sanger on this.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And yet, as you point out, our ability to discuss
it as a nation has somewhat degraded. You watch those
Kennedy Nixon debates and put aside who was sweating and
who looked young and vigorous and all that. It was
an incredibly sophisticated argument, largely about nuclear deterrence. I'm afraid
that we're not having that incredibly sophisticated argument today, in
(06:51):
sixty years more than sixty years later. But the vote
yesterday which you've been discussing about Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
At the end of the day turned out to be.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
A fairly overwhelming vote in favor of the US pushing
against the Russians in Ukraine and perhaps beyond.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, you think we're not having sophisticated debates about the
rise of China and the Soviet Union and our politics currently. Yeah,
I would agree. It's horrifying the idea of it. And
by the way, if you're interested in the book at all,
but you were thinking in New York Times Reporter, so far,
in his interview and in everything I've written in the book,
he has been equally of blame of George Bush and
(07:33):
Barack Obama and everybody for not getting what was happening
here and being asleep at the switch on the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
But the one truth that we're so bad at recognizing
this country, at least during my life span, and I
hope I've learned this lesson, is the fact that it
took hundreds of years, and even if you compressed it,
because everything moves faster these days, it took, you know,
well hundreds of years for the idea of self governance
and democracy to bloom in the Western world. I mean,
(08:05):
the Greeks tried it, you know, the Romans had to
go with a magna karta and on and on. English
common law took a long damn time to leach into
the consciousness of the West. The idea that China's going
to make a few bucks and decide, hey, representative government's
a good idea. We have virtually no experience in a
(08:26):
thousand years in this country, but I love it. Or
in Russia, the land of the Czars and the Soviet
Union haven't had a representative democracy except for a cup
of vodka there at the end of the nineties, all
of a sudden, they're going to come around and say,
tell us more about this congress you run. Or in
the Middle East, the various Islamic dictatorships and tin Horn
(08:47):
dictators like Saddam Hussein. All we have to do is
show them a copy of the constitution. They'll figure it out.
Assists societies don't work that way.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Man. There are few things that actually give me chills.
But when I heard him open with that quote that
I've mentioned so many times, she's saying to putin there
are changes going on that haven't happened one hundred years,
and we should drive these changes. That is freaking world
history changing, frightening stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, it's the Stalin Hitler Non Aggression Pact, which took
an exciting twist later.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But yeah, and you know, kind of fitting in with
this on a lower level not important, but to give
you an idea of where we're headed, the Paris Olympics
have been rocked by a scandal which are there coming
up in less than one hundred days, with a whole
bunch of Olympic swimmers from China and a drug test
that they failed back in twenty twenty one. But it
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turns out the international governing body had kept that quiet.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
And it has now just come to light.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
So China had so much inner influence over this governing body,
just like they had so much influence over the who
who kept their mouths shut about COVID, that they were
able to keep it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
A secret that all these Chinese swimmers had cheated.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's that's that's what's gonna happen with and who cares
about swimming, but every aspect of life is going to
be that way, and you're gonna have these world organizations,
the UN or whoever is as often as not side
with the Russia China, Iran over the United States and Europe.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, it's a pretty clear case of the side that
is not cooperative gets their way, the side that's gonna
be a bully. Yeah, the who They come to the
US and say, hey, that we got evidence that leaked
out of a lab in Nebraska. The US says, oh
my gosh, what happened, let's talk about it. China says,
you say, that will ruin you. The bully wins.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So China said that there was some sort of contamination
that must have happened with the tests. A US official
says that basically said, that's bull ass.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
They don't believe it at all.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But the but the international body was willing to go
with the China story about it was a painted tests.
So we will give them another opportunity to test, which,
of course, then they'll make sure they're clean on that test.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And sure, of course, yeah, they'll get some urine from
dissidence held in Chinese concentration camps and it'll be lily white,
cleaning clean, very nice. Nice.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I told my kids on because I was getting into
this book heavily over the weekend. I told my kids
on Sunday, which I might have the most be the
most frightening parents in America. But I told my kids,
either knowing the two biggest things in your lives are
going to be the rise of China and Russia versus
the United States and AI, those two things are going
to dominate the rest of your lives.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I'm just letting you know. I think, Hey, Dad, is sure,
nice day? Can we go shoot baskets? Hmmm? Wow, that's
controversial parenting certainly if you want them to sleep well
at night, well yeah, well the average adult can't even
handle that stuff. But yeah, there are leaders of tomorrow.
God dang it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
But when I was a kid and I would read
all this history, I assumed that, you know, if the
smart people had been paying attention, they'd have seen this
stuff coming and could stop it. And now I'm older
and it realizes, even if you see it coming, you
can't stop it.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Right. Building a consensus is very difficult, you know. Getting
back to several stories you've talked about, whether it's kids
with smartphones who have the Internet all day long, twelve
year old kid in a park has the Internet, What
a great idea and everything on the internet. People not
willing to say no to their kids people not willing
(12:27):
to stand up at the big parade you're at in
a college town, is people with f bomb laden placards
supporting Hamas paraded down that nobody had the courage to
stand up and say something. Well, the idea that we're
going to do the really hard and dangerous thing and
confront these totalitarians before they take over the world, good
(12:48):
luck with that. I'm sorry, I'm very cynical about mankind today.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
When Stormy Daniel take in the stand in the trial,
that's n That'll be something to pay attention to.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
That's what I need. Will she try to ring her
re re recycled fame out for one more trot around
America's third tier strip clocks probably make fifteen thousand dollars
doing twenty five different appearances total. Right, we got more
in the way, stay.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Here, army, strawl and getti.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
US airlines this year expected to receive forty percent fewer
planes than they planned for last year. United Airlines in
Southwest pausing hiring United, even offering their pilots unpaid leave.
Alaska Airlines, along with Southwest, unsure how many flights they
can fly. All of the airlines pointing directly to Boeing
seven thirty seven max production delays. Boeing's number of airplanes
(13:48):
deliveries sank to eighty three in their last quarter compared
to one hundred and fifty seven the one prior. All
of this on the brink of sky high travel demand.
Major airlines bracing for a huge tra season following a
record setting gear for TSA travel numbers better.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Important for on products I'm exporting for their products.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
The president, they're commenting on Boeing's struggles and the import
of Furderberg products as opposed to the export of Furderber products.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Set important foreign products. I'm exporting for their products.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I'm sorry, instead of important foreign products, I'm exporting federal products.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
That important foreign products. I'm exporting for their products.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It's a controversial policy, but one he seems dedicated to.
Jack Well.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Ancient actor Michael Douglas, who's in some new TV show somewhere,
said he talks to Biden and Joe Biden's metal acuity
as sharp as attack, says the one hundred year old
Michael Douglas.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Okay, great, thanks Mike, and congratulations on your new Ben
Franklin vehicle. There on the netf like, oh, that's right,
he's clean. Ben Franklin. Yeah, I've been watching The Three
Body Problem with Judy, the hot Netflix series, limited run series.
Pretty interesting. We've compelling, a little heavy on the video
(15:15):
game angle. You'd have to watch it to understand, but
it's not clear to me. There's it begins with us
a brutal scene from Maoist China, Cultural Revolution China, and
there's a thread of a person from there who's important,
but it's not clear to me if that will become
more significant than it seems. But anyway, it's it's pretty
(15:39):
compelling stuff if you're into the science fiction.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
We started Manhunt. Have you seen any of that on
Apple TV?
Speaker 8 (15:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I've had a couple of people recommend that is the
best Lincoln assassinated show I've ever.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Seen, so good.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Little Gory is a little rough for the kids. We
all looked away a few times, but uh man, is
that good? If you feel like the whole that story.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You know, it's funny between Bill O'Reilly's Killing Lincoln book
and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer. I've gotten kind of cynical
about exploiting Lincoln and fictionalizing it and being dopey, but
I've heard this one's pretty dark good. This is the
other direction.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It's like makes it so incredibly real and and like
like you can just it makes it real again, as
opposed to.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Judy's out tonight too. Yes, anyway, it's real good. I
got off on my own tangent there. I was going
to in the wake of the Boeing discussion and the
farber Or Products was gonna mention, if you're not into
following the markets and all you you might not have
heard this, but your magnificent seven stocks, that's your big
(16:50):
tech stocks last week lost nearly a trillion dollars in
combined market value. That got absolutely murdered. Any particular reason, Yeah,
A handful of things, uh, you know, Tesla's discouraging results
and a couple of other things that checking the clock.
I don't have time to describe. Maybe we can touch
(17:12):
on that in a minute. Plus, the campus protests are
getting uglier, crazier. Universities are shutting down completely.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Stay with us, Armstrong, Andy, You'll make us crown.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And who is a hasa? I'm looking for that when
i've I've got one in Colombia where they were chanting
al casam, you make us proud kill another soldier. Now,
oh my god, now there's channing. We say, just as
you say, how burn Tel Aviv to THESS. We love you,
(18:02):
We support your rockets too. This is on some of
the so called elite college campuses of the United States
of America.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
This is a new one. This is from a professor
at Columbia. Earlier today, Columbia University refused to let me
onto campus. They deactivated my card, not letting me onto
the campus because they cannot protect my safety as a
Jewish professor. They said, So they deactivated your card, so
you couldn't even choose.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Yourself whether or you want to show up.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
He said, I have not just a civil rights civil
right is a Jewish person to be on campus. I
have a right as a professor employed by the University
of beyond campus.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Wow. So the story earlier was that a Columbia rabbi
had told Jewish students leave campus, go home. You are
not safe here and they can't keep you safe. So
now the university itself, which I believe has gone to
remote classes, yeah, is now not even letting Jewish professors
on the campus. Meanwhile, in Yalees, a huge phalanx of
(19:01):
cops in riot gears swarmed Yale University's Kinnectic campus earlier
today started arresting students and others who had been staging
the anti Israel protest encampment there for several days. Some
of that chanting was taking place. That should be the
one next stop for Trump.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
After a court day, go up there the way the
Columbia protesters are and make some strong statement. Although he's
you know, he's being really coy on the Ukraine Israel stuff.
He's trying to let people assume that he's with them
on that and not take a side.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, a Jewish student was jabbed in the eye and
Yale and had to go to the hospital, jabbed in
the eye with a flag, a Palestinian flag. You had
an episode I think in Colombia on Columbia's campus where
they tore an American flag down from a veterans memorial
and burnt it to enormous cheers the assembled college lunatics.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I was Yale because I watched this that was this morning,
and yeah, the cheers from those Yale college kids when
the US flag was taken down is so disturbing.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
The famous Havid Yad has been closed to all humanity
lest a camp be set up there. As one of
the radical organizations that's helping organize this this Marxist madness
has said that we want every campus in America to
have one of these occupation camps in it, and I
thought it was brilliant what Jonah Goldberg said. We quoted
(20:40):
it earlier. The easiest way out of this mess many
universities have made for themselves, and that is absolutely appropriate.
I mean, as I said earlier, they created a monster.
And the fact that you have to explain well that
expression means if you create a monster, you can't control
a monster, and sooner or later it'll turn on you,
(21:01):
maybe immediately, whatever it'll do damage that you never imagined.
It would do well by removing all conservative thinkers from
college campuses, or visually all, and substituting not like moderate
liberal professors, but radical Marxist lunatics spouting DEI and radical
queer theory and gender theory and radical critical race theory.
(21:25):
They indoctrinated their kids into these radical ideas. But anyway,
back to Jonah, only easiest way out of the mess
many universities have made for themselves is also the most appropriate.
If any group of students threatens to seize the university
and force administrators to do their will, they should be
put on notice. Any violence or attempt to physically intimidate, trespass,
(21:46):
or otherwise hamper the proper functioning of the institution will
result in expulsion or arrest or both, and outsiders doing
any of the above will be arrested. Any administrative attempts
at cleverness or efforts to claim this is a really
complicated issue will invite more mayhem and undermine academia's credibility
even further. As if it could be enforce the rules
(22:07):
or stop pretending your rules aren't objectively anti Jewish, hm,
any other cause, any other political point of view, they
would never put up with us. And again, if students
feel it is so important that universities divest from or
boycott Israel, they can show the courage of their convictions
and go to a school with the investment policies they like.
They can have their say in the application process. But
(22:28):
the idea that students, just because they're just so angry,
should be dictating investment policies or nearly any policies any
university is absurd. Of course, it is you get a
bunch of angry children making demands. Tell them to go
to Hell, or tell them, hey, pipe down, get off
the quad, or you're going to be expelled, and then
expel them next freaking day. This is not complicated. Don't
(22:52):
try to be clever. As Jodah put it so eloquently.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So as Joe already mentioned, this Orthodoxy rabbi at Columbia
sent a message to the almost three hundred Jewish students
recommending that they go home until it's safe for them
on campus. That Columbia can't keep him keep them safe.
Mark Fieson of the Washington Post. He's a conservative At
the Washington Post wrote, Joe Biden condemned what he called
(23:18):
the anti Semitic bile of right wing marchers in Charlottesville, Virginia,
and called it a defining moment for America. Today we're
witnesing Charlottesville happening on the campus at Columbia University, but
Biden is silent. This is a defining moment for the presidency.
Will he keep pandering to the anti Semitic left or
confront it the way he did the anti Semitic right.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Great question.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
He was so disturbed by the anti Semitic left that
he ran for president, or so he claims.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Ben Shapiro made a great quote point. I think he
said the university's quote have spent literally years telling conservatives
on campus to shut up that they might microaggress the
sensibilities of far left students by saying that boys can't
be girls and the like. They've spent those same years
coddling radical leftists who actively, by the way, that whole
(24:06):
microaggression thing, that is just to intimidate you into silence.
It's a tool. It's not an argument, it's a tool.
But they've spent those same years coddling radical leftists who
actively undermine the actual functioning of the universities. Columbia's latest
protests were not designed to be peaceful. They were designed
to intimidate and harass. Colombia has no obligation to coddle
(24:28):
terrorist supporters who harassed students and obstruct the functioning of
the university. Yeah, clearly, sow were reaping what we've sown.
I mean, that's obvious. And while we were sowing it,
planting those seeds, we were trying to tell you that.
And I'm afraid a lot of people thought, I don't
know there's a right wing radio nut jobbery. It brings
(24:52):
me no pleasure to see these birds coming home to roost.
But when you indoctrinate children and young adults into radical
leftist ideologies for years and years and years, and they
hide it in the schools, the elementary schools especially, you know,
your TikTok videos of your rainbow haired radical teachers talking
about how I've got six months to turn these kids
(25:12):
into revolutionaries. We let it happen on our watch, sickening.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
How long do you think it will take to unwind,
assuming we even try to unwind it, because I'm not
sure that that's even going to happen.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Oh man. It would call for a huge cleaning out
of the ranks of teachers and professors, rebalancing ideology on
campuses from kindergarten through grad school, if we're serious about
doing it in two and a half to three generations.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
So this gets to the clip we played earlier of
former Attorney General Barr talking about Trump last week and
how he says he will vote for Trump over Biden,
and he's asked, how could that be after the things
you've said, You say he was responsible for the insurrection,
and it did nothing and he was should have been
impeached in all these different things.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
He said, choosing one is Russian roulette.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That would be Trump, because you know, you got a
bolton the shamber and you're spinning and who knows where
it lands, because Trump is a wild card, and like
I don't have the slightest idea where Trump is on Ukraine, Russia,
no idea or standing by Israel. But he said, choosing
Trump is Russian roulette. Choosing Biden is national suicide. Not
(26:23):
because we go further down this road of this sort
of stuff, no bully pupblic from the president speaking out
against the sort of craziness that's going on around the country.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Right and is compelling, and you know, I'm obviously really
into this stuff and have been for a long time.
But if he were merely letting tens of thousands of
Chinese nationals flow across the border along with the millions
of Venezuelan gang members and hardworking Central Americans you just
want a better life. If we're if it were merely
that the border is open and he's leaving it open,
(26:56):
that is something close to national suicide. I think bars right,
he's a sober dude.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Another thing that happened in Congress over the weekend, and
the addition to passing a bunch of funding and banning TikToker,
attempting to or whatever is, they reauthorize that fiz A
seven h two spine on people Bill learn some interesting
stuff about that yesterday from one of the talk shows,
and other stuff on the way We'll finish strong next
(27:25):
farm Strong.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
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to find meaning in this real to make sense of
the dreams of a historic genius. But how can anyone
possibly know what is inside the burning mind of sal Bagordari. No,
they simply can not. They are mere mortal human beings.
(27:56):
But now I can tell you. Introducing Ask Dolly, an
audio experience powered by AI in machine learning that allows
you to tug to me. Hi, I'm Salvador Dali, and
you can ask me anything.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Salvador Dolly painter. I assume to be dead for quite
some time. I don't actually know when salvage genius visionary.
You can ask him anything. Hey, Melvin, that's crazy. What
were them clocks made out of that they melted? I
think it was nineteen eighty nine he.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Died in eighty nine, thank you, at age eighty four. Anyway,
so there's an AI thing where you can go and
talk to him. I guess, all right, I don't know.
I don't know how that stuff works. Doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I do.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
The melting clocks I do. I put those paintings now
and then on my Samsung frame in the living room.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Curious. I don't know what that's all about. Why are
the clocks melting? Dolly? Why did you have melting clocks?
Was it a symbol of how mankind is obsessed with
time even as we're mortal. No, I just wanted clucks
made of more durable materials. Thank you, O great one.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So one of the other things Congress did over the
weekend that didn't get that much coverage because it happened
over the weekend late Friday night, they reauthorize the FAIZA
warrant program surveillance program, specifically the seven oh two aspect,
where they can I don't know, listen in on foreign
conversations and it's supposed to protect American citizens if they
(29:29):
get caught up in it. Something interesting I learned in
one of the talk shows yesterday. I think it was
Mark Warner, Democratic senator said, first of all, when the
president does their daily briefing every single day, whoever is president,
sixty percent of the daily briefing comes from the seven
oh two program.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I didn't know that. Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Wow, sixty percent of it is listening in on foreign.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Phone calls, emails, whatever. But he did say five.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Years ago, and I'm supposed to believe always that they've
always you know, this was years ago.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
They've fixed it down. Five years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Thirty percent of the time the FBI was not following
their own guidelines and who should be listened to and
who should not be listening to. A third of the
time the FBI was violating their own rules, which means
your rights and who they listened to and not Now,
of course, and again it's always presented at my whole life.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
That was five years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You know, we reformed and now we got new people
in charge and whatever, and the bad people are gone
and this will never happen again.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah. Whatever. These things move like a sine wave through history.
They get out of control, they're more heavily regulated, everything
gets loose. They get out of control again, they violate
people's rights. There's a crack down up and down, yet down.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You said that last week. There's just no getting out
of this conundrum. The government has to be able to
spy on various things. They will take it too far,
they will get caught, they will back off a little,
but they'll have to continue spy, and there's no getting
out of it.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, I just it's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
A third of the time they violated their own guidelines.
So that whole thing with a carter page in the
Trump campaign, well that wasn't a rarity, not if a
third of the time they do that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Right, Yeah, that's that's a shocking number. I'd say, Well,
there's no repercussion for it. You had Brennan and lying
in front of Congress and various other characters. What's the
other guy's name? I can never remember a clapper lying
in front of Congress? And then to what penalty do
they suffer for that? Lying about surveilling American citizens and
(31:43):
covering it up? They become a highly paid correspondence on CNN,
your go to source for anything intelligence? Right?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Nice?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Right? I know people like Matt Tayibier especially enraged by that.
All of a sudden, the left is embracing the intelligence
state and the federal police powers. Wow, there goes to
show you.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Until the tide turns and it'll be completely different. I
was thinking about this yesterday over the weekend, with all
the talk of Mike Johnson the Speaker, being a profile
and courage and thank god they're supporting the war, and
the cheering there in the in the House when they
passed those bills and people waving Ukrainian flags. I said, Okay,
let's wait a few months till you got a Republican
president and we'll see if all the Democrats are on
(32:26):
board with the wars. I am a little skeptical, une
j that haunting echo at Dan's.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
The album version there, that was wild. Here's your host
for final thoughts, Joe getting Hey, let's get a final
thought from everybody down the crew to wrap things up
for the day. There he is pressing the buttons. Mike
laiders though. Michael final thought.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
You know, years ago I made a jack because he
said he had been wearing shoes that were too small. Well,
I found out that I did. I've been doing the
same thing for all these years. I went to get shoes.
I've always worn a size eleven. They said, you're supposed
to be wearing size twelve, so you're full size off. No,
it's one shoe one foot is eleven point three and
the other one's ten point eight. But they said you
(33:20):
should go up the size, and so I did, and okay,
so here we are.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
So no wonder my feet were bleeding. Yeah, I thought
it was right. I thought it was a ten and
a half my whole life and turned out I'm on eleven. Yeah,
Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman. As a final thought, Katie,
your shoes weren't small. No, it felt horrible. Okay, I know,
I know, I know, all right. I had a final
(33:44):
thought and I know, oh I know. I was just
measured by one foot. It was a small a final
thought for us. Yes, so do that?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Many of you all have turntables and listen to vinyl
album so, I mean, I know hipsters do.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
But is it like that? Commony want is at Target
on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
The Big Taylor Swift display their hundreds and hundreds of
her double album, Like people are gonna buy it and
take it home.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
And throw it on the turntable. Yeah, she's putting out
special edition colored vinyl and stuff. Like it. It sounds great,
vinyl sounds why yeah, I get I'd really like to
invest in a new setup. But does the average twenty
two year old woman have a turntable?
Speaker 8 (34:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Maybe they did, I don't Maybe she's gonna get one,
I don't know. Uhr. Speaking of twenty two year old women,
they are screaming down with America death to Israel on
college camp. I good lord, do we need to clean
out our educational system in this country? I'm not sure
it can be done.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Armstrong and Getty rabbig up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
So many people thanks a little time. Go to Armstrong
in geddy dot com. You'll find some fabulous hot links there.
Get a T shirt. We got a lot of good
funny t shirts. Drop us a note at mailbag at
armstrong in getty dot com.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Get a T shirt that says like thirty milkshakes, and also.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Some chicken for instance a classic We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
God bless America, the real threat to our system.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Now, I'm Strong and Getty. Your time is expired.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
No, let me finish, Okay, so let's go with a bang.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
If I'm born and informed of my name is David
Pecker the day I turn eighteen. My name is David Becker,
all right with a B.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Sorry, Well, and further down the direction he just collects
of David Penis from that point on.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Wow, well that would be quite the move. Thanks all
very much, Armstrong and Getty.
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