Nathalie Niddam: How to Biohack Your Body with Peptides

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Have you heard about peptides? Are they truly the miracle
way to biohack and get that anti aging you're looking for. Well,
We're going to dive into that today. Welcome to Accelerated
Health of Sarah Banta, where I cut through the noise
and fast track your journey to better health. I'm your host,
CEO and founder of Accelerated Health Products and certified by

(00:52):
the National Association of Nutritional Professionals. I'm here to share
the latest unsupplements, wellness hacks, and national health.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Solutions that actually work.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
From boosting your energy to detoxing do balancing hormones and
everything in between. I will help you reach your optimal
health and I'm so excited to have our guest on today.
Natalie Needum is a holistic nutritionist, longevity educator, and committed
to empowering individuals to live joyful, vibrant, and healthy lives

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well into their fifty sixties and beyond. My belief is
you can live your better half, the second the second half, Right, Natalie,
I'm so excited to be diving in today with you
on peptides. It is something that everyone is going wait
a second, not just supplements, not just my omega threes,

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not just eat clean eating and going to the gym.
Is there a way to take it to another level?
And maybe it's not even for the gym bro that
is trying to be that thirty year old body in
the in the six, well, the sixty year old body
but acting like a thirty year old. It might be

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someone that has aches and pains and got inflammation and
just doesn't want their hair to fall out. Right, So
is this really the magic pill or I should say,
the magic shot.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, well, thank you for that intro, Sarah. And the
answer to the question is no. I mean I think
that it's another tool in our toolkit.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I think that there's a lot of people running around
talking about it being the magic bullet, the magic pill,
the magic shot. But even if you were to look
at if you look at any peptide to begin with,
I mean, for for the audience's you know, orientation in
this space. There are there. There's an increasing number of
peptides that are available as oral supplements, which is fantastic

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because they're they're a little bit more in the gray zone.
But when it kinds to injectable peptides, with a few exceptions,
for the most part, they're not actually approved for human
use yet. If you're looking at if you're looking for
FDA approval and approval of medical body of regulatory bodies,
they're technically not approved for human use. So it's an

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interesting world because there are a lot of physicians in
the integrated medical space that are using peptides in their
practices as an adjunct to other therapies that they use
and with really good results. So I think that we
have to look at peptides as really, I mean, wildly interesting,

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very they can be extremely powerful tools in our toolkit,
and it's going to depend on the person and their
own particulars about in terms of whether they're willing to
step through that door. And also what you mentioned earlier,
they don't make it that you don't need to also

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be doing everything else right. You still need to be
eating a good diet, you still need to you know,
you still need to be sleeping, moving, exercising, managing your stress,
all that stuff. And then the piece that I think
that a lot of people, so many of us forget,
is what do you need to get rid of, Like
what needs to be removed out of your lifestyle, whether
it's toxic behavior, toxic friends, toxic chemicals like exposure to toxins,

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which unfortunately is a bigger part of our world, you know,
process foods, all of those, all of those things, or
are you dealing with parasites? Are you dealing with mold?
Like the The interesting thing about peptides is they can
help in some of those instances, but you still have
to be addressing the driver of what's driving whatever issues

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you're dealing with. Right, So, yeah, and there's different categories
of peptides. And I'm going to let you lead us
to where you want to go next, because you know
I could just keep going. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, Well, I want to stress the fat what you
just said, because over the last year, and my listeners
know about my journey, I had a parasitic infection, I
had a spike protein exposure, my liver enzymes were through
the roof, and when my liver wasn't working right, I
wouldn't have been able to process peptides. I wasn't able

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to process a lot of the supplements that I normally do.
I had to be on an extremely low fat, strict
diet because I had to take the pressure off my liver.
So it can and if you're not addressing the foundations
of your health, this other fun stuff doesn't do you
any good, and it actually could put more stress on

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your body. So but then there's a way that it
can also heal. And there's that fine line. So I'd
love to get your take more of a whole listic view.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, so I think you know what's interesting what you
said about your liver. The interesting thing about peptides is
they don't stress the liver, right, so they are not
a supplement, okay, So which is which is a very
big distinction that needs to be made because and depending
on the peptide. You know, there's there's been over seven
thousand peptides identified in the human body. There's a handful

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of them that are available to use. I mean a
tiny little handful available to use, orally a slightly larger
handful available to be used by suputaneous injection. And then
within that sphere, we have the longer chain peptides which
people may have heard of, things like BPC one five

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seven or thymysin alpha one or TV five hundred, and
they've got we'll talk about the names in a minute.
They've got the craziest names on the planet. Even compounds
like the GLP ones like semaglutide or her zeppatide, which
people may have heard of as ozepic or munjaro. These

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are all longer chain peptides, and many of them are
fragments ord and in case of munjaro and ozepic, they're
modified peptides that are naturally occurring in the body. Right,
so the glps naturally occur in the body. What Lelilily
and novos were able to do is modify those compounds
to make them longer acting, and so that's how they

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do the work that they do in our bodies. And
we can talk about those a bit more later. So
we have those longer chain peptides that are typically referred
to as signaling molecules. On the other side of the fence,
we have another group or another family of peptides that
are called bioregulator peptides, and these are infintesimally small, So

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these are two to four amino acids in length. They're
the tiniest little sequences. They actually don't just interact with
receptors on the outside of cells. What they do is
they get into the cell, they get into the nucleus,
and they bind to DNA, so they actually affect your
genetic expression. So they're epigenetic switches, if you will. Now

(08:09):
there are peptides on the other side of the fence, right,
so we have two sides of the fence. We have
the bigger, longer chain peptides that can be up to
fifty amino acids in length, and then we have the
other side of the fence where these little, teeny tiny,
little diminutive peptides are these epigenetic switches on the other side.
BPC one, five seven, There's another one called GHK. There's

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other peptides that can affect gene expression. It's not their
only mechanism of action, but they don't have that privileged entry,
if you will, into the nucleus to actually directly bind
to DNA and affect the proteins that are generated. And
so for the audience right now, they're like, oh God,
I don't even know what she's talking about, and why

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do I care?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
So let's take it.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Let me buy a step back.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
So the bioregulators, and there's the bioregulators, and then there's
the longer peptides, and then there's the even longer peptides.
Is that am I saying that right? No?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean there's either peptides or biregulator peptide.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
So once again, if you could recap the bioregulators.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, the smaller ones for sure. So the bioregulators were
discovered in Russia about thirty to forty years ago now
probably thirty five years ago by a young at the time,
a young officer who was a medical doctor and researcher
in the Russian Army, and he was tasked with figuring

(09:38):
out how do we restore health and vitality to our
cosmonauts that are going up in space and being exposed
to massive radiation and to our submarine people the submarine navy,
if you will, who are in these nuclear submarines, which
in that time at that time were very were really
poorly insulated, and so they we're effectively being exposed to radiation.

(10:02):
And so you know, the brass came to this young
guy who clearly was a promising dude and an impressive person,
and said, look, here's the deal. You have a blank check.
You can you have all the lab animals you need
when it comes time to doing human research. We've got
factory loads of people over there. You just figure this,
figure out the problem. And so, you know, without taking

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everybody through a long tortuous journey, he discovered these tiny
little proteins that actually occur in virtually every single life
form that he looked at. And so they are they
they are naturally occurring in food even right, So there's
sequences and the way because the way that the body
or the way that Mother Nature structures proteins were made

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up of all different proteins, our hormones and proteins, our
enzymes and proteins are muscles made up of proteins like
we are protein. You know. Cornucopia here is that within
the protein, there's going to be certain segments that remain
intact even when that protein gets broken down, and those
bioregulator peptides are those segments. In the literature, Kevinson describes

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how there's specific cleavage sites on either end of the
two three or four amino acid sequence that allows that
sequence to remain intact, which is taken up through the lumen,
so through the stomach into circulation, and will they then
have an affinity for whatever tissue or organ or gland
they come from to affect the DNA there. So today,

(11:35):
if somebody was to look at using bioregulator peptides, and
I'll tell people a little bit about how and why
they're used, you would have two categories. You would have
the natural bioregulators, which are encapsules. They're nutritional supplements. These
are extracts from the tissues, glinds, and organs of young

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animals that are raised under very strict circumstances and they're
put into a capsule and what happens is in that
capsule you get that amino acid sequence we talked about,
but you also get a bunch of other amino acids
and protein, so you kind of get the entourage if
you will, that will affect the change. There are twenty

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one bioregulators that are commercially available in natural form, and
they each one corresponds there's two different ones that correspond
to One is to the brain. Just to finish that sentence,
as I keep interrupting myself. So we have a pineal
gland bioregulator, which many people may have heard of as epitalon.

(12:38):
There's the central nervous system bioregulator. And then you have bioregulators.
I'm not going to name them all for you guys here,
but you have bioregulators for you have a bioregulator for
the thyroid gland, the thymus glend, the adrenal gland, the pancreas,
the stomach, the liver. The liver biregulator might actually be
very helpful to someone like you. There's a blood vessel bioregulator.

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There's one for the heart, there's one for cartilage. So
you know, there's testes and ovaries and kidneys. So you
get the sense that every one of the major systems
and organs, they has some bioregulators affiliated with them. And
so the way the bioregulators are used is to either

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as a preventative measure to help induce cellular rejuvenation in
each one of those organs. So if you can imagine,
as we age, things start to wear out a little bit,
they get a little fatigued. So if we use the bioregulators,
maybe a couple of times a year. Strategically, we might
be able to initiate rejuvenation and restoration of function if

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you will in those tissues, glands, and organs therapeutically. They
can also be used to as part of a holistic program,
if you will, to address things like a thyroid that's
not pulling its weight, or adrenal glands that are under
a lot of stress, or if somebody's circadian rhythm is

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very disrupted, if they're working with a coach and they're
doing all the things to help to restore circadian rhythm,
they could use the pineal gland bioregulator that helps with
circadian rhythm. It also helps to normalize melatonin production, and
it also helps to activate telomerase, which is an enzyme
that maintains telometers on the ends of your DNA. So
you get the idea with the bioregulators that you could

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strategically kind of use in them over time in a
way to if you will restore the tread on your tires.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
That makes sense. And you know, it's so funny because
everyone's got a long journey before twenty twenty five, right,
So I would say that my rock bottom was fifteen
years ago. Possibly my mentor put me on these bioregulator
peptides in these boxes that were Russian.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
It is so cool, and I took them. I didn't
know what they were doing. I didn't know what they were.
I just did what he told me to do. But
now thinking back, that's what it was. And yeah, I
noticed a difference. Mine were My focus was kidneys at
the time, and I would retain a ton of water.

(15:15):
My kidneys were exclaimed and when I was taking them,
I could see the release, and so definitely I saw
a difference. So as we're talking about peptides and you're
talking about amino acids, it begs the question, does it
matter what a person's protein intake is, what the quality

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of their amino acid intake or is it two separate things.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I think it's two separate areas. I mean, you know,
it'll always matter, right, our quality of protein intake, all
those things will always matter. But that's there's no relationship there, okay, right,
I mean, like they're not. There really isn't a relationship
on the other you know, And if you want to
visit the other side of the fence. We can go
look at the other peptides. So one thing about the biregulators,

(16:02):
and you may have noticed this, is that usually they
will like their effects are very subtle and over time.
It's not typically like, I'm sure you didn't start taking
the kidney bui irregulator and overnight say, oh my god,
I feel so much better, like and he probably had
you on kidney blood vessel like a bunch right, kidney

(16:22):
blood vessel. You may have done around a pineal gland,
because everybody throws a pineal gland. What the heck? Maybe
the central nervous system one, you know, the thymus gland,
most likely, because thymus regulates immunity and the immune system
always needs a little help in balancing. So what's important
to remember about the biregulators is what they do is
they modulate, They normalize function, They don't boost. So, you know,

(16:47):
I think that as they become more popular and more
and more people get super excited about them and start
selling them and pitching them and doing the whole nine yards.
Be wary of people that tell you, oh, all you
have to do is take this bioregulator, and oh my god,
I heard recently that somebody they heard someone say, oh

(17:09):
my god, so and so was saying that he has
friends that use the testes bioregulator and they put on
so much muscle because their testosterone went so high. And
I'm like, no, they didn't. If they put on muscle,
they were working out, they were eating right, they were
doing all the things. Maybe they were using anabolic steroids.
I don't know what they were using, but I can
tell it. And maybe it's possible that their testosterone levels

(17:33):
were really low and maybe the bioregulator helped to normalize
their testosterone levels. But I can promise you that what
the bioregulator is not going to do is drive you
into super physiologic testosterone levels so that all of a
sudden you win your bodybuilding competition. So I just think
it's very important for me. It's part of actually what

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makes them relatively safe, right, Like it's part of that
is because they don't you know, you can use for
someone with the thyroid dysfunction, whether they're hypo or hyperthyroid,
you can use that thyroid biregulator and it's going to
normal it's going to try to normalize it. You're not
going to solve all your thyroid problems just with the bioregulator.

(18:14):
But what I've seen is it can be the last
piece of the puzzle. When people are doing everything you
know they're doing with the iodine they're getting, you know,
they're managing the antibodies, they're doing all the things they
need to do to support thyroid, they bring in the biregulator,
and all of a sudden things just start to fall
into place. So we do see that.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I mean, that's about That's what health is about. It's
not just the magic pill. I always laugh my dad
is waiting for the magic pill. I'm like, Dad, there's not.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
The only time.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, you got to do all the things. And if
you're not sleeping, none of this matters. If you're if
you're totally stressed out, none of this matters. And so okay,
before we get into because I want to talk about
the foundations of lifestyle and diet and other supplements that
will enhance or negate the results you get from these peptides,

(19:06):
let's talk about the longer peptides. Sure, and I specifically
want to make sure we touch on the BPC one
five seven and the GHK copper peptide those two I've
played around with myself. I still currently take the GHK
copper peptide, but I also want to get into some
of the other fun ones too as well, for sure.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So you bring up like two very powerful peptides and
BPC one five to seven. BPC stands for body protective compound.
So what's really interesting is if you look at the
published research, there's a lot of research. Unfortunately, there is
a massive shortage of human research. There's I think there

(19:51):
might be some stuff coming out. I know that there
was some done in Croatia years and years and years ago,
except it was they had to retract the study because
because they had published, they basically did their human trials
before they did their mouse trials, which is a big
fat no no in the land of research for obvious reasons,

(20:13):
and so they weren't allowed to publish the papers. And
this is like an old story just came back to me.
I remember I learned about this like years ago when
I first got into the peptides. But people have done
some human research. It's just there's there's very little of
it at this stage of the game. There's very little.
There seems to be very little impetus from pharma who
typically big pharma are the ones that have the budgets

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to do the trials, to do the research so that
we can establish that BPC one five seven can be
used for this, that and the other.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Thing.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
The challenge I personally believe also with BPC is it's
so pleaotropic. So word of the day is playotropic. Plaotropic
to those of you who don't know, means that it
affects so many different areas of the body in so
many different ways that it's really hard to put it

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into a box and say, BPC one five seven is
a pain killer, Yeah, sort of. But BPC one five
seven is an inflammatory. Oh yeah, it does that too. Oh,
BPC one five seven seems to help tissoes to heal. Yep,
does that. BBC one five seven is very powerful forget healing.
Definitely does that. BPC one five seven is protective to

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the brain. Check again, BPC one five seven would actually
have been a great adjunct while you were healing your kidneys.
It can also be very protective to the liver and
to the pancreas. So it has so many different facets
to it that I think that it's kind of like

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big pharma would be like, not that they wouldn't know
what to do, but they wouldn't be able to say,
you can only use this for this one thing, because
all these other things are going to be affected as well,
because there's receptors for BPC all through the body.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
So who shouldn't take it? I mean, it seems like
it's a.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Lot of so I mean, so again, it is technically
not a proof for human use when injected subcutaneously. So
one thing we haven't touched on yet is both bioregulators
and longer chain peptides can be administered by sebcutaneous injection.
In the case of the bioregulator, you're now looking at
a synthetic version of that amino acid chain, so you're

(22:27):
not getting all the extra stuff that we talked about
earlier in the capsule. You're just getting the money shot, right,
and that can be administered by subcutaneous injection. The longer
ten peptides for the most part. And there's exceptions to
these rules, which I can talk about in a minute.
If you ate them, your body would be like, oh,
that's a protein I need to digest it. EPC one

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five to seven is an exception because guess where it
comes from. It is secreted naturally in our gut juices.
It's just part of a bigger protein. So it's kind
of like it gets, you know, it gets ushered in
through the VIP door. It gets, it gets you know.
So now there's there's a lot of talk that, oh, well,
if you take BPC early, it's just going to get

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broken down in the gut. It doesn't. Actually it over time,
it will, but not before it's done its thing. So oral,
so you can find supplements with BPC one five seven
that are oral that are really powerful. What they're not
as good for is the the musculo skealidal injuries.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Okay, so for those you want the injectable.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
So for those, the injectible is going to be more powerful.
The oral might help with aches and pains, but it
won't necessarily be as effective when you're you know, I
had a lady years ago who had a non union
joint fracture in her wrist. So that means that it
was like a hairline fracture in the risk the wrist

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is notoriously difficult to heal, partially because you're not weight
bearing on it. Like, so she was heading for surgery
and her hail Mary was a phone call to me saying,
Nat Area, you're working with these peptid things. What should
I do? And so my mentor at the time I
called him and I'm like, what should we do? And
we we gave her a program that was an eight

(24:17):
week program that included BPC, thymys and beta four and
the growth hormone secretagogue c JC and ipamorelen And after
eight weeks, I think it was eight or twelve weeks,
she went back to her doctor who literally just about
fell off his chair and it's like, what are you doing? Like,
what did you do?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Because the fracture had healed? So that's that can be
the power. Now Who shouldn't use peptides? It's hard to say,
and that's the challenge, right, Like I can tell you
from a I'm not a doctor, right, I don't prescribe anything,
I don't diagnose illness. I can tell you that I've
seen a lot of people benefit from them, but it's

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not always the right answer. And so I'm much more
comfortable advising people to find a practitioner and there are
a lot of them out there who've been working with
peptides for a while. Who can help to guide them?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
My husband goes to the He's the guy that goes
to the gym and talks to all the other guys
that are looking. They're sixty and they're all beefed out,
and they're on the testosterone, they're on the peptides, they're
doing the stem cell injections. Do it. They're doing all
the things. But then they're the guys that are saying, yeah,
I've done all that. I've spent so much money on

(25:34):
the peptides and they did nothing for me. What what
makes them work for some people and not for others?
What is there is there? Is it nutrition? Is it?

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Stress?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Is it? Is it just a genetic predisposition? What is
what will make them be successful with these peptic Because
they're not cheap? So you are you are spending some
money on them?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, well typically a number of there's so in a
bro gym situation, it's going to be dose. Are they
using the right dose? Are they using it for the
right amount of time? Have they addressed the underlying biomechanical
issue that they may be having that is causing the problem,
Like if I have if my superspinatus is completely inflamed,

(26:20):
and my whole shoulder is rotated forward and my trap
is trapped like this. I can poke BPC one five
to seven in there till the cows come home. Right,
nothing's going to change until I've addressed the biomechanical drivers
of what's driving the issue. Sometimes it's something that the
peptide can help. If you have a meniscus tear, Maybe
it's too bad, it's gone too far and the peptide's

(26:43):
not the right approach. So you know, like the problem
is that people get so excited about this stuff and
they're like, oh my god, BBC once by seven is
going to change your life. It is like the best
and all you have to do is ABC. Like I've literally,
in horror watched influencers on Instagram holding up their little

(27:06):
vials of peptides with their syringes, picking up their cute
little shirt, injecting themselves in their belly, and I'm like,
what are you doing exactly right now? Like what do
you actually think you're doing? Because you're not serving anybody.
You might be getting a lot of affiliate sales from
whoever sponsoring you, but you're not I'm sorry, you are

(27:27):
not helping people so I would like to invite everybody,
including myself, to take a deep breath.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And consider that two truths can be true at the
same time. They can be really powerful and move the
needle in a way that drugs just can't because they
tap into the body's own healing mechanisms. But at the
same time, they may not be the right thing that
you need. It may not be enough, you may not

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be using it properly. Like there's any number. You can
also be allergic to a peptide right. Your body can
decide your immune system, and this is especially true for
people with mcasts or any kind of of hypersensitivity. At
a cellular level, the immune system could be like, actually, no, well,
it's just not working.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I always say that because I have in my cabinet
three different companies' versions of GHK copper peptide, and I
do muscle testing with my practitioner, who has never been wrong,
and I always know intuitively when something's not right, and
then they confirm it. Two of the three don't work

(28:43):
for me. I've body did not react well to it
and it and it could have been another ingredient in
the in.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
The are they oral or topical, they're all oral. Okay, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
That we haven't even gotten to GHK and I want
to get to it because there are so many benefits
from it, and I started taking it for hair and skin,
but I want to talk about all of the other
amazing benefits of it. And I'm a huge fan of copper.

(29:15):
You know, we have our acceleery to copper, and I
know that from processed foods and also from the pandemic.
You also have to be very careful with how you
speak about this stuff. Most people are depleted in copper,
so there's also this imbalance in the body of copper

(29:36):
deficiency and then iron overload, and then our livers are
all messed up with that whole situation. I dive deep
into that whole topic. But when it comes to GHK
copper peptide, I have found that it is actually very
helpful for my kids as well at their ages for

(29:58):
different reasons. Interesting, Okay, would you touch on the vast
benefits of jkpptide?

Speaker 3 (30:08):
So JHK copper peptide is really fascinating. There are a
lot of people that say that if Kevinton had discovered
it before Lauren Percartt discovered it. Doctor Lauren Pricartt in
nineteen seventy three is who discovered the GHK copper peptide.
If Kevinton had discovered it, it would be designated as
a as a bioregulator. It's three amino acids. The copper
is really only there as a cofactor. So for people

(30:30):
who are not deficient in copper, there's a lot of
people that believe you could just use the GHK and
it'll just bind to cop it'll, you know, it'll use
the copper in the body as a co factor because
it's there. So what does GHK do? I mean? What's
fascinating about GHK is that it it flips over four

(30:52):
thousand genes back to a more youthful setting, that some
of them flip up, some of them flip down. It's
pretty fascinating, right, it's not. It sounds like a silver bullet.
It sounds like, you know, if it's true, and it
has been researched that our plasma levels of GHK copper

(31:15):
when we're young are at least four to five times
higher than they are by the time we're fifty or
sixty years old. They tank and if GHK copper is
a repair peptide. It helps with reducing scarring. It upregulates
the production of collagen and elastin. It helps with hair
growth obviously because of the collagen and elastin thing. It

(31:35):
helps with skin. It also is axiolytic. It also helps
with gut healing. It also is anti inflammatory. Like it
has so many effects in the body. And literally every
single time I go into pup med and I type
in GHK copper, some new paper comes up, and I'm like,
oh my god, I had no idea that that it
can be taken orally. It can be injected seputaneously, it

(31:58):
can be used topically skin and for hair, right, So
there's so many different applications for it. It's again, it's
one of those compounds I'm sure that a pharma company
would look at and go like, how are we even
going to put this thing in a box? Right? Like
we or how do we modify it? Now? What's interesting
about it is when you look at the animal studies.

(32:21):
They when they said they did an animal study that
showed that GHK copper helped dramatically with wound healing, and
they injected GHK copper into the peritoneum, so into the
belly of the mice that had a wound on their backs,
and the mice that got the GHK copper healed dramatically

(32:44):
faster than the ones that didn't. The challenge is that
to reproduce that effect in humans, you'd be injecting a
milligram every hour for ten hours to get that effect.
And so this is where, you know, so much gets
lost in the details between the public research and the

(33:05):
influencer standing in front of you and I, you know,
I recently released We did a post on social media
about JHK copper and people just grab it and run
with it. And you know, unfortunately nuance really doesn't sell
very well on Instagram. But that's part of what makes
me crazy, Yeah, because I want to say the research

(33:29):
is showing that it has so much potential, and the
and the and the anecdotally we see people getting really
great results. But let's be clear, if you're seventy years old,
you can slather this stuff on your face as much
as you want. You're not going to look like you're thirty, right, so, like,
you know, like you're just not. So it will slow

(33:50):
down skin aging, may improve fine lines to a point, absolutely,
but if you really want to look like you're thirty.
You're gonna have to find a really talented guy or
woman with a knife, and you know you're you're going
to be at a commission for a while. So and
I find I feel like it's very important to say
this to people because things like BPC one five seven,

(34:13):
any peptide, it is so impressive the effects that we
can see from them that people expect miracles. We don't
often get miracles. Now, GHK copper can be super helpful
to regrow hair just from natural hair loss. So if
you micro needle with GHK copper into the scalp, you

(34:35):
will probably see some great benefits. You might pair it
with the new one skin hair growth erup right right,
you go stack it with VPC one five seven actually
helps with hair as well. Is there anything this peptide
doesn't do so with.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
The GHK copper peptide. If someone is deficient.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
In copper, you've got to use it with copper.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Okay, So that is where you could pair it with
accelerated copper.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Well, no, or you buy the ghkcu which already learns
with the copper at you.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
With it, so it comes with the copper. Then also
as it is helping with the collagen and elastin, do
you want to be supplementing with a collagen as well
or do you not need the collagen when you're just
doing the GHK.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
So if we think about how it does what it does,
if it's turning on genes, then you know, I think
what we need to make sure is that your body
has the building materials it needs, right, because what you're
doing is you're issuing the work order. If the contractor
doesn't have any wood, he's not going to be able
to build you anything right, right, Or if he has

(35:45):
no nails and a bunch of boards, it's like, okay,
well I can kind of stack them together, but they
may not hold it together. So this is where we
want to make sure that the foundation is there, we're
doing all the right things. And then what we're doing
is that what we're doing is we're sending signals, we're
putting in work orders to initiate work that needs to

(36:06):
be done.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, okay, So now I want to in the last
few minutes that we have touch on the big eie
the GLP ones, the right YEA and the microdose scene
versus the big dose and is the is it safe?
What's your take on it? I mean, there's so much positive,
there's so much negative out there, there's so much. You

(36:31):
got to do it the right way if you're going
to do it. So and these are peptides.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
They're absolutely peptides. And the last two things you said
are absolutely true. If you don't use them properly, right,
they're they're a disaster. But if you use them properly,
they're amazing. Right. So people say, okay, well, you know,
like you're just not going to eat and then you're
going to get ozebic face, and then you're going to

(36:57):
lose all your muscle and your heart's muscle, and then
your heart going to melt it and then oh my god,
you're going to die. And I'm like, okay, could we
just stop for one second, because yeah, you could lose
your appetite dramatically. And if you have no appetite, you're
on too high a dose. So the way to use
GLP ones responsibly is to use the minimum effective dose

(37:20):
for you. For some people they never get past the
starting dose. For other people, they need to go a
little bit higher. One of the mistakes that we see
people make is that they just keep increasing the dose
because they're like, you know what, I got a wedding
in three weeks and I need to drop this weight now.
And so that's really not the right way to go
because what you want to do is you want to

(37:42):
suppress the appetite. You want to turn down the food noise,
and then you want to eat a protein forward diet
with healthy fats and lots of great micronutrients. So you
maybe like, and this is where, don't eat the potatoes
because they're going to fill you right up. Have a
beautiful bowl of sprouts and greens and fermented foods, whatever

(38:03):
it is. Have the light stuff, and if you really
can't choke down the veggies, then have some kind of
a really high quality organic green juice, greens and reds.
Just to give yourself the micronutrients, like all the little
micronutrients that you need, but eat the protein. Use your
essential amino acids to supplement the protein, right because you

(38:24):
don't need room in your stomach for those. But they're
going to give your body the building blocks to build
the muscle. And then you know, the body's super smart.
It doesn't want to do anything it doesn't need to
do so if you don't give it a reason to
build muscle, it's like, you know what, this stuff's really expensive.
We're just gonna dump we don't need it.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And when you're a woman over fifty, it wants to
do that anyway. Anyway, got a whole lot of our
expensive muscle. And I mean, tell me if I'm wrong.
Any restrictive diet you go.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
On is going to do the same thing exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
And it's all going to do the same yees would
be protein for prioritizing that protein, and that is what
tells your body you're safe, so that your metabolism doesn't
slow down. Because whether you are eating less calories on
nozempic or just eating less calories, your body's gonna say,
I don't have so much money coming in on the bank,

(39:17):
I say, friend less.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Nobody spends everybody spending freeze right. Yeah. So but you
know what's amazing about these JLP ones is that they
work in so many different ways. So I mentioned that
they shut down the food noise in the brain for
a lot of people, which is in and of itself,
is when you talk to people who have issues with that,

(39:42):
to them, it's like it's it's life changing for them
all of a sudden, they are not. They don't find
that they're fighting themselves all the time. The second thing
is that you're a little less motivated by taste, and
so you now have an opportunity to recalibrate and retrain
your eating habits and your taste buds. Right if you

(40:05):
and this is this is the tragedy that I see.
You see people who are like, ho, wait a minute,
I can eat that donut and a muffin. Maybe I
can have some ice cream. That's all I really need
for today. They all taste really good, and I'm fine,
I don't need anything else, And I'm still going to
fit into my new size six or size four genes.

(40:26):
And it's like you're heading for disaster because now you're malnourished.
You're not giving your body what it needs to build
that muscle. You're probably not exercising if you're eating donuts
and muffins and ice cream, and you're setting yourself up
for really bad long term pain. Because if you if
you imagine that you're on this journey with the GLP

(40:48):
ones where you release the fat. You you know you've
you've released fat, but you didn't build muscle. The day
that you stop that hunger is coming at you like
a freight train. You know you have not built better habits.
You don't have the muscle to give you the metabolic
flexibility that you need and protection. And not only is

(41:09):
the weight coming back with friends, it's bringing an entourage
of people that's never even met before. So be aware
that if you play your cards right with the GLP ones,
they will be the most transformational tool that we have
had as a society to change our health right. They

(41:31):
even have anti inflammatory benefits. They even have benefits for
the brain because because they improve your insulin sensitivity, they
make it easier for both your skeletal muscle, your brain
and your heart muscle to update glucose out of the blood.
So that means it should be easier for you to exercise,
and it will be because you'll lose the excess weight.

(41:53):
There's going to be less of you. You're going to
start to get stronger, You're going to feel better, your
confidence is going to come back, and the whole world
opens up to you in a different way.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, well, I love what you said about It's okay,
let's get rid of the food noise. But now let's
make smarter choices. And I always go back to what
did the population look like fifty years ago? There was
no processed foods and so there was no carnivore diets,
paleo diets, vegan diets, or people were just eating real food.

(42:23):
And there wasn't an obesity issue because the natural appetite
signaling was occurring. But now we have been given this
drug of ultraprocessed foods that has hijacked our brain. We
have no connection to what real food tastes like, and
that real food converting into energy. So excuse me, there's

(42:47):
a little fly with me. So we are searching for
more energy by trying to eat this so called food
that's not food, that's not converting into energy. So we've
got food noids. Yeah, and so the Semaglutie kind of
puts the brake on all of this and says, Okay,
let's take a step back, let's get back to ground zero.

(43:09):
And if you don't do it right, you're only going
to dig yourself into a deeper hole.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
So I love that you what you say about that.
There's so much more we could talk about.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
I am.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I mean, the FDA and the regulations and where you
see all of this going. But this is a conversation
that is just going to continue to unfold and progress.
And I mean, in the next couple of months, we're
going to probably see new things come in the market
and new restrictions and new options and new studies. What

(43:45):
do you see.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
It's I think it's really hard to know where it's
all going, you know. I think what blindsided a lot
of people in the community, in our community was the
last week is the is the potential loss of natural
thought medication, and that I don't think anybody saw that
coming because everybody believed that with the new administration. Everybody

(44:07):
felt that, oh, they're much more friendly, they're going to
make things right. They got rid of the red dye.
And it's funny, you know, because a couple of fairly
big voices in the space called out the red dye
elimination at the very beginning, saying this is a distraction,
This is a smoke screen. If you remove access to food,
if you pollute the environment, and you remove red dye,

(44:30):
give me the red dye and take it out of
those other problems. Because if you make my environment super toxic,
I can choose not to eat things with red dye
in them. I can't choose the air that I breathe.
So the thyroid med thing, I think is it's a
bad sign. Yeah, it's a really bad sign. And I

(44:52):
don't know. I haven't really dug into it myself. I'm
in Canada. I mean, we have our own problems over here.
But I think that if they I don't know how
to them following you through. I don't know if it's
a proposal or what the case is, but if that
goes through in the US, I think it's it's it's
not a harbinger of good news, and I think it'll

(45:13):
be really sad because what's going to happen is you're
going to first of all, you're going to drive people
underground as people will find a way to get their
hands on what they want, and now it won't be regulated,
and now all bets are off right. We see that
a little bit in the peptide space because they're in
this they they exist in the kind of this gray zone.

(45:34):
People are buying them off Ali Baba. They're buying them
from random places online that they find. This is not smart, Like,
this is not good because if you don't buy from
a vetted supplier who you know is testing for impurities,
is testing to make sure that what they say is
in the vile is what's in the vile. You are

(45:55):
injecting this into your body. This is not a game.
And let me just give you one little thing to
part with. When we use peptides, typically we're using micrograms.
We might use a milligram of something once in a while,
or a couple of milligrams, but we're still using one
hundred micrograms. That's a tenth of a milligram, and that's

(46:17):
enough to give you an effect after it's been driven
into your belly fat. Look at the semiglue tide right,
or a zembic, whatever the case is. Semaglue tide two
hundred and fifty micrograms is starting dose. Two hundred and
fifty micrograms of this little bitty compound that's injected into
your belly fat magically changes your brain, changes the way
that your pancreas interact works, reduces inflammation in your body,

(46:41):
helps you to get skinny. This is powerful stuff. So
you have to do you guys. You must be educated.
You must find people who will help to you to
become educated so that you can become a discerning if
you choose to go down this road, that you are
very discerning and aware person who's not just playing with

(47:03):
your health because you know what you can. I've seen
lots of people be pretty cavalier about this stuff. This
is your body. You only get one. And I know
degenerative medicine is great, but still.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Well, I mean what you're saying applies to the supplement
market and supplements on Amazon and all of this, and
with the thyroid medications, whether you're or whether or not
you're on thyroid medication. This affects you because this is
the the the initial, the initial door opening, and then
what's next? Is it Mormon therapy?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
And it's your freedoms. It is shocking. I'd love to
know politically what's behind all of this, because it doesn't
make sense, as you said, or you don't think it
does with the new administration.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
But you never know. You never know.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
What You've got to follow the money somehow, right at
the end of the day. Usually it's about the money.
So it's not something I wish we were facing at
the moment, but I gosh, you are a wealth of knowledge.
I learned so much. Thank you so much, and please
tell people where they can find you work.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
With you and you thank you so much, Sarah. So
I don't do consults anymore, but I do interact with
people in a membership community that I have. So if
you want to learn about the membership community, just go
to nataniem dot com and there's information there about it.
And also I'm doing this thing for the next few
months where I'm offering people three free habits that they

(48:34):
can start every month just to help them along on
their health journey. So if you want to check that out,
three free and these are habits you don't even have
to spend money to do, so you could just go
to nataniem dot com forward slash habits for that, and
then not habits sorry natnedem dot com forward slash free apologies,

(48:54):
and then last but not least, the podcast is another
place for getting more information, and you know eventually Sarah
will get you on there as well. And that's longevity
with Nataline Nedham, either on itube like Apple podcasts or
Spotify or YouTube, all the places.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Amazing and you're such a wealth of knowledge. Highly recommend
subscribing to the podcast. So thank you Nat again. I
so appreciate this conversation and I will be listening to
it over and over again.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
So thank you so much. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I don't know about you. My mind's blown. If you're
talking about biohacking, biostacking, just optimizing your health, peptides might
be for you. And it's something that I've tested, you know,
a bit. I've played around with BPC one five seven
ghk copper peptide, looking into some others. I'd love your

(49:48):
feedback on what you're doing. But we touched on the
fact that in order to optimize your health, you don't
just reach for peptides. You need to start with the
foundation sleep, moving your body, feeling good, having the energy.
And I want to mention just two supplements that not
actually mentioned, and number one is iodine and acceleradine. Iodine

(50:13):
peptides often need that optimal cellular energy and protein synthesis
to work, and acceleridine helps boost that cellular ATP production.
It fuels the thyroid hormone production. I mean here we
are talking about the thyroid medications possibly getting off the market. Well,
everyone should be optimizing their thyroid with iodine, with or

(50:37):
without their thyroid medication. You need iodine for the production
of T four and T three. It stands for the
four and three molecules of iodine that drives mitochondrial activity,
meaning your cells make more ATP. Peptides that repair tissues,
stimulate the collagen, or build muscle all require ATP to

(50:57):
carry out these processes, and iidine helps enhance that protein synthesis.
It helps improve the detoxification of the halides and heavy metals.
Those can block the receptor sites and slow down the
cellular aging including peptide signaling. So once again you need
to have the foundation for these peptides to actually work

(51:17):
to their optimal level. And idine helps with supporting hormonal balance,
so that is number one. NAT also recommended the amino acids,
So if you're using peptides for weight loss, you want
to make sure you're getting in your protein so you're
maintaining that protein that muscle as you're losing the fat.

(51:39):
Most people on the semiglutide drugs are losing fat and
muscle together. Then they get off of them, their appetite
roars back, or maybe it doesn't and they've just slowed
down their metabolism. They start eating again normally and they
put on the fat weight because guess what after forty,

(52:00):
after fifty, especially as US women, it is really hard
to build new muscle, and that's where the accelerated aminos
comes in. So this supplement is amazing for my twenty
two year old son and his friends. It's amazing for
my husband that's fifty five. But I designed it for
us women. We needed an amino acid supplement that has

(52:24):
no fillers, nothing toxic in it. It is in tablet form,
It absorbs within fifteen minutes. You can fast with it.
You can use it with your protein forward diets like
Nat was talking about. They're great for before and after
a workout, and we have included cofactor ingredients to prevent

(52:47):
muscle loss. So it is actually going to help with
your muscle prevention as you're trying to lose that weight.
It's going to help you if you can't be on
a high chloric diet. People ask me all the time, well,
which protein powder do you recommend. I don't recommend protein
powders for anyone that doesn't want to gain fat and muscle.

(53:08):
Why because protein powders can convert into glucose and give
you that muscle and fat gain. That's where es central
amino acids come in. But we have also put into
the accelerated aminos estrogen which helps increase the absorption of
the amino acids by fourteen or forty one percent and
also helps heal the gut so that you are absorbing

(53:30):
all of your nutrients that much better, which is the
basis and foundation of your health. Whether or whether or
not you're doing peptides, so accelerated aminos accelerating idine, they
will increase fat oxidation, protein synthesis, mental clarity, helping give
you that foundation so that you're getting the most out

(53:53):
of your peptides if you choose to do those. So
thanks for tuning in to Accelerated Helplesserabanti. I hope you
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(54:16):
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