May 7, 2024 • 51 mins
Feeling tired or lacking focus lately? Today we explore the transformative power of chaos during the spring season.
Spring symbolizes movement, expansion, and letting go. But growth isn't always smooth sailing. Learn how to navigate the chaos and find clarity amidst the turbulence, even when you're feeling drained or unfocused.
Join us as we delve into the benefits of embracing chaos and discover how it can reignite your motivation, bringing newfound clarity and purpose to your life!
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Spring symbolizes movement, expansion, and letting go. But growth isn't always smooth sailing. Learn how to navigate the chaos and find clarity amidst the turbulence, even when you're feeling drained or unfocused.
Join us as we delve into the benefits of embracing chaos and discover how it can reignite your motivation, bringing newfound clarity and purpose to your life!
The Language of Healing is broadcast live Tuesdays at 2PM ET on W4WN Radio - Women 4 Women Network (www.w4wn.com) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com). The Language of Healing TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com).
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W four WN Radio. Are youready to take a journey. Let's connect
with the healers of the world.It's that time. It's time for the
Language of Healing on W four WNRadio and Talk for TV. Now here's
your host, doctor Nicole Forton.Hello, Hello, everyone, and welcome
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to another episode of the Language ofHealing. I'm your host, Nicole.
We've got the pig Man as theco host. Hello. Hello, Hello,
how are you Nicole? I'm goodgood. I want to hear a
story. Yeah, oh, astory, yes, like anything in particular
or yeah. I want to knowwhere Forton comes from? Oh yeah,
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so well this is I I've beentold it's a very regional area, like
from Quebec French Canadian. Yeah,I'm I'm my dad's French Canadian. So
it's like a small northern town.And the story I heard once I met
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a guy named Nicholas Forton and wethought that was kind of funny. And
he's like good friends with my sister's, you know, pretty much husband.
So it's all in the family andthat's how it kind of is out there.
So in that northern area of Quebec, it's like, you know,
you'll find many, many, manyof them. Like the phone book,
you won't see it anywhere by inQuebec, you'll have five pages of it,
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you know, but it means itmeans apparently it was a you know,
obviously just descendants from Europe and we'remixed with indigenous I'm not sure about
that. And they would build littleforts from the Gaspe into Thunder Bay and
it was like a trading route,so they were like the little fort people,
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little fort and then fort also inFrench means strong, so it's like,
I don't know, strength, strength, you know what I just heard
from all of that. What thatbecause of your name you have strength from
chaos? M Yeah, it isa real you know, resilience builder,
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that's for sure. And see,because you know, we're talking about embracing
chaos, So I mean, howdo we embrace it? We get our
strength from it instead of laying thatcreate weakness. Mm hmm. Yeah,
well you can't really, you know, the dim what is that saying about
the diamonds. You can't get adiamond without like high high high pressure.
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It's like the pressure of the chaos, the heat. You know. Yeah,
it does. It's a transformational process. I love it. I mean
it's really that's a good way tokind of blend it all together because I
do have I have a lot ofexperience embracing chaos. Well, and that's
why I bring it up too,because I think everybody really does. Yeah
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yeah, sure, sure phenomenon.I mean, that's why we have to
tell our own stories that maybe wedon't tell anywhere else. A lot of
times, you know, we don'ttell our stories anywhere else except this kind
of platform, so people can seethat. You know, even if you
make it look easy, it definitelyis not easy. It's all about embracing
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that chaos and making lemons out oflemonade exactly. Actually, you would make
lemonade out of lemons, but Igot I kind of got it backwards.
Yeah, yeah, I was alittle chaotic. I'm saying that I didn't
even notice. I'm so used tothe chaos, and it just it makes
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you know, even if it's chaos, it makes sense, like that's where
you want to have a level ofacceptance with chaos, and that's where the
magic happens. I was just talkingto somebody last night about certain things from
my twenties that I was thinking,Wow, Like, what the hell was
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I thinking? I And I saythat because I kind of like I was
attracted to thrived on and thought itwas the best thing in the world to
embrace chaos, but in a notso good way. And I think we're
going to talk today about how todo it in a good way. And
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that's what you learn as you gothrough these experiences and these different chaotic points
of your life, is how toembrace it the good way. There's always
a good way and a not sogood way. I don't even say bad,
because there's no bad way. There'sno wrong way. Every way is
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right. It just may not beright for that person or for that time,
or maybe it is right for thatperson that time and not another time.
You know, Yeah, you haveto be able to be really good
at gauging where you're at in themoment, like what is your climate,
what's your environment now? And whatdo you want now? I think it
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always changes, you know. That'sthe gift of chaos, is that it
supports growth and evolution. And youknow, through the pressure or through getting
those lemons, that's how you getthe sweetness of life. You know,
you have to have the bidder toenjoy the sweet. And so tell us
more about that and more about howthe language of healing kind of your whole
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philosophy on how to help with that, well so big. I mean it's
like my lifelong mission and journey.I personally love this kind of topic because
and I'm you know, we're talkingabout the springtime and here where I am
in Calgary, it's well, we'vehad every season this week, so I
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don't know what season it is really, but it'll be like, yeah,
that's just like the great thing aboutliving here is we'll have like snow,
you know, sunny, amazing weather. Rain. Well that's chaos too,
is it. Yeah? And nowwe have like the wind today is such
a windy day and from Chinese medicineperspective, the springtime is associated with the
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wind. It's like the winds ofchange that I also can't help. But
like think about the scorpions song windsof change, you know, I was
just thinking like that sounds like asong to me. Yeah, I have
a lot of lyrics playing through mymind right now round this topic, because
I think that a lot of musicis written around these times of turmoil too.
And then it's like how to findclarity or how do we dig deep
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inside of us to really create apositive change, because like you said,
you can go in a more destructiveway and or positive You always have a
choice. And the beautiful thing aboutChinese medicine and like ancient like Taoism Confucism,
they're really built on or based onobservation. So it's how does the
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external environment meet our internal environment,you know, And because like we the
cycles change all the time, andso they observe observe that. And yeah,
so but the duality, it's there'snever we never escape duality. So
we always have choice and the willis you know what drives that and the
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liver season, the wind winds ofchange, it's a real time of expansion.
So personally, it's my favorite timeof year, one of my favorite
topics because I noticed a lot ofstuckness happens now and then with my job
that I get to help people unlockthat stuckness or like create new pathways,
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new new channels. It's it's agreat opportunity to really build on what you
want, get your desires. AndI'm all about helping people get what they
want because that's you know, whatare some strategies for finding clarity in springtime?
And I want before you even answerthat, I want to say everybody
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talks about New Year's it makes NewYear's resolutions, but really, isn't it
the springtime that should be the cleansingand the and the also like just observing
all that's going on and what roadyou want to take from there. And
to me, finding clarity is defectof the whole idea of spring cleaning.
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To me, that should be allthe time, because when there's not clarity
around you, there's not clarity inyour head. Mmm. Yeah, I
have a good, well, alot of interesting points like around that because
I find that well, mental clarityis really important. I did this the
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passion of meditation have you heard ofthat. It's like a ten days silent
retreat. Oh yeah, yeah,I don't know if I could do that.
I don't know if a lot ofpeople say that, that's like probably
one of the most I actually could, though, to be honest, it
is funny because you talk about duality. Okay, So like when I'm out
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there, you know, I justdid Sunfestus past week, a music festival,
so I'm out there in the inthe public, and then yeah,
I like all the noise, andI let and I you know, I'm
engaging and extrovert. Did But thenthere's also I like the times where I
come home from like the Pipemin radiotour, and I just seclude and don't
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even leave and don't interact with anybodyexcept business wise. But then other than
that, and I could definitely listen. I joke about it because people would
probably play bet late bets and maybethat would be a good fundraising campaign,
okay for Mental Health Awareness Month.That may be the funding campaign right there
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is that can the pipe man goa week without saying one word? And
I'm saying right now, apps offrecolutely like just don't talk to me,
Like it would be just as good. Don't talk to me, just leave
me alone, let me be inmy solitude, and I'm cool with that,
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you know. And then and thenthat much money, how much money
do you need to I think there'sa lot and there's a lot of mental
health going on out there, soI think there's a lot that needs to
be raised. And so yeah,let's all I think the whole world like
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should go on reset and for awhole week. Go do that thing for
a whole week and nobody say anything, and just reset the whole world because
right now there's not one place onthis earth. And you know, I
haven't been to every place, butas you know, I've been to a
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lot of places that there's not chaosright now. And so I think that's
where defining clarity is in the springtimeto me is hitting the reset button and
starting over and doing it then insteadof new year, because the new year
doesn't mean the same. Springtime hasso much meaning to it, or at
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least I think so. Yeah,I've always always connected with that sentiment too.
I feel naturally that the springtime isis more renewal it's new year,
and I mean I love the likethe you know, you look at the
lunar calendar and it's all it's likethe spring time, right, And I
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mean in Chinese culture they have theSpring festival, that's what they call it.
It's like their lunar New Year isthe spring festival. So they're not
like and and the energy is mIt's like something needs to move and like
really disrupt your natural rhythm to reallycreate that shift. Like the wind.
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I used to hate wind, Okay, like I loathe wind. It's probably
my least favorite element. I candeal with the cold, I can deal
with the heat and that, youknow, humidity, but the wind just
really like irritated me. And wetalk about in Chinese medica, if you
have an aversion, just a strongaversion to something, that probably means you
need to balance something, right,like I would say, so, yeah,
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I've learned to love the wind,and I'll not love it, Okay,
maybe I should I accept it.I used to love the wind till
like the jellyfish larva were attacking meand there was wind. Then I now
not so much. I heard aboutthis. Yeah, I'm like, it's
no, it's windy. Even nowI look outside, I'm like, oh
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it's windy. I'm not throwing inthe water. Mm hmm, yes,
I know it can it can.It has the potential to blow in chaos,
that's for sure. Yes, absolutely. Stung by jellyfish is not good.
Well, the larva is worse.Mm it's like having herpes. Mm
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hmm. Like, man, wellyou get the read hot. Do you
really want me to describe this onthe language of healing? Yeah exactly,
I mean save that for the adventuresof pipe Man. Anyone interested in Piemend's
herpies can go there to tune in. Yeah, okay, so I think
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we're going to have to take anote right now for me to if you
tune in tomorrow at one pm,I'll continue that part of the conversation.
Yes, yeah, the pie Manhas a radio station on W four C
why dot com. You can findit on uh there Wednesdays at one pm
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Eastern. Yeah. I don't evenknow how I'm allowed over here. I'm
not normally allowed on the stage.Yeah, that's true. This is the
Women for Women network and Piemend's adventuresare a bit raunchy, maybe a little
bit too too adventurous. But Dean, on the other hand, yeah here,
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Yeah, Dean's here. Pipe Man'snot here. See you're trying to
pull pipe Man out, but Iwouldn't let you. See you were testing
it. Pipe Man is in thecage right now. Yeah, good,
good, good. No, you'rea professional obviously, you know, and
maybe that's like the duality of it. We should stretch our personality, we
should we should be able to youknow, I'm a strong like advocate obviously
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for knowing who you are and whatyou stand for and having a strong sense
of self. I think that's abig mission of life. You know,
who am I, what am Idoing? What's my purpose? But you
know, but it's also really importantto explore and and well that's how you
find out who you are, don'tyou. Yeah, yeah, you know,
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if you listen. That's one thingI can say. The you know,
the pipe Man personality, which wasn'talways it started you know, evolved
from and you know it kind ofhappened by accident, not on purpose,
but it is a learning experience again, Okay, so embracing chaos. So
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all my life I was surrounded bychaos. So I took this radio personality
and created it where like kind oflike I was like on Star Trek,
I was you know, getting uhI can't believe I'm losing the word trying.
Uh yeah, yeah. Being beamedinto you know, the reality of
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my surroundings instead of me and andlike be part of the chaos, and
being part of the chaos instead ofjust being surrounded by the chaos. Lets
you kind of understand the chaos evenbetter too, and to really find the
clarity of who you really are insteadof what society thinks you should be,
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what everybody else thinks you should be, because your whole life, if the
way you go that is the chaosyour whole life, your whole life.
It's like you have to be whatyour parents expect you be, and then
you have to be who your friendsexpect you be, and then significant other
and children and any type of authority, whether it go from school to job
or what. There's all these expectationsin every aspect of your life. And
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I think until you embrace that thatchaos, the clarity that you find is
you at the end of the day. Because there's certain things now, even
for me that if you talk tome fifteen years ago, I would have
sing a different tune in the respectof I would never do something like that.
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And now it's like well, yeah, I would, because I don't
care what anybody else thinks except me. And that's the true chaos is that
you don't get to a point whereit's just you know you, really you
think about just you. That's whenyou're embracing the chaos and then you can
figure it out your clarity. That'smy opinion. Yeah, well it's interesting
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point because the the chaos, Ithink that is the virtue of it.
Right, It's like, well,that's what we're talking about, is the
clarity you can find through those adversethat adversity, right, like being in
the pressure cooker and at the difference, like you know, what is our
what are our cycles? I meanthere's many different What I love about,
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uh, you know, different perspectivesfrom around the world is that there's a
lot of different ways to approach lifeor the different stages phases of life,
you know, like maybe just saythe primary, secondary, tertiary or you
know, and there's there's different themesfor every every part. So I think
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something that you did before served youthen and you may not do it now
and then vice versa, right,growing upon the base, you know,
like different layers and levels and yeah, deeper understanding deeper. Well, you
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know, I think about studying acupuncturebecause you have to study like there's really
really specific points. You have tonail those points. You have to know
how to find them. And westudy for you know, four or five
years. You're studying the same thingover and over and over again. It's
like mister Miyagi's approach to like wellbeing, you know, the wax on
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wax off, Like what am I? What am I going on and on
about this? But you don't realizethat you're building this depth and layer and
there's like a purpose to things thatdon't make sense and chaos doesn't make sense,
and our subconscious ego wants to makesense of everything. And you know,
and then we have choice. Wehave ability to respond to it or
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react to it. And that's whatdrives our course, our pathways and anyway.
We always have, you know,opportunity to I'm big about everything's a
choice. Like people say they hadno choice. You have a choice.
You may not like the choices thatyou have to pick from. Oh hey
that you always have a choice.Yeah, And to really change. I
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was thinking about this because it takesa lot of courage to change and go
through change and to really stand strong, like in the darkness, you know,
if it's perceived as darkness, orbecause chaos can be great, like
I see so much change happening rightnow around me, me personally but also
people in my life, and itcan be good. It can be the
birth of a new child, itcan be but also like death, you
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know, or going through something reallydifficult, but it can also be a
move or so there's chaos can begood and bad. Yeah, sorry,
maybe I lost my little thought there. No choice is a choice. We
got a little comment here, mate, and making no choice is a choice.
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Yeah, I think that. I'mpretty sure there's a song about that
too, is it? Who doesit? I feel like that's a rush
thing. All roads lead to rushfor Canadians. Is that what the deal
is? Like? All roads?But hey, you know, can help
us out and find that no choiceis still a choice or something like that.
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Yeah, I know which song you'retalking about. By the way,
do you know which time? Iam embarrassed that I don't I know which
you don't come to me, Butyou know what, you know what songs
did pretty well? Pretty well?Oh free will? Oh yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah, that's right,good work. I love it now.
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See, I also have to sayis like the issue is you can't control
the chaos. You can't control otherpeople's actions, other people's words, other
environmental influences or anything that's going on. You can choose though, to and
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how you would embrace the chaos isto choose to understand it, because until
you understand it, you know,you really are in turmoil with it,
opposed to being able to use itto your advantage. Because again going back
to what I said, there's goodand bad, you know, so in
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order to find the good out ofit, that's going to be a good
benefit to you, that's what youhave to do. Yeah, that reminds
me of like, you know,resistance or when you're not accepting of it,
you know, then it gets worse, right exactly. Yeah, there's
Yeah, they talk a lot aboutchaos as this transformational like agent, you
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know, in a lot of that'sin Chinese medicine. I guess that's kind
of my background and obviously, butdealing with like you know, because I
see a lot of people with painor you know, people aren't coming in
mostly to be like I feel greatand I want to keep feeling great.
It's usually something that brings them in. It's like this catalyst for change,
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and so you know, you kindof have to accept it. You got
to get down with the sickness firstand then you can go with another song
reference. Yeah, I know.I think it's because I'm going to a
rock and roll festival. Where areyou going? Well, but the rest
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of people don't know. Yeah,that's why I'm asking you. Yeah,
Okay, I'm heading to Daytona Beach, Florida or Welcome to Rockville, which
is on the pipemin radio tour yeper and You'll be working and I'll be
having fun. I'll be having morefun than you. But I'm gonna be
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like I'm gonna be caged off fromyou. Yeah yeah, yeah, we'll
be separate. Yeah, you needto be caged. I'm gonna be hiding
from you. Yeah, You'll neverescape. Uh So tell us what other
strategies in the language of feeling willyou know, create the kind clarity that
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we need to spring time to reallysee a change in our life. Okay,
So I think the first thing reallyis okay, going back to the
way I was telling you about thethe silent retreat. You know it really
because you brought up something. Imean, okay, that for me was
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like where they related this analogy ofits mental hygiene. It's like, oh
yeah, spring cleaning, you saidthat should be all the time thing.
Well, same with like our abilityto cleanse the mind and cleanse the spirit.
You know, it's like or cleansethe heart. It's it gets overloaded
and we don't realize it. Weshower, you know, we physically hygienically
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deal with ourselves. We go tothe gym, right, we take care
of our food that we eat,But do we really like cleanse the mind?
And this is how we can doit. So periods of reflection looking
back. See, we can't reallymove forward unless we know where we've come
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from. So there's support in reflectingon the past or looking at where we've
come from to that look at wherewe're at now, and then where do
we want to go? So Ithink that my biggest, my biggest tip
for this time of year would beto pause and just have just like take
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in the stillness a little bit,because that is that's that is a choice
and it is a movement. Andthe body does this too. It's like
every inhill has a pause and thenexhale, pause in. Hell, you
know there's that's a phase. It'snot just in out, it's in pause
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out, pause in. Yeah.Yeah, I pause at least once a
day. Okay, when is that? I don't know. I haven't figured
it out yet. Okay, yeah, this is what we're gonna fund raise
some money for you for for theTalk four TV. Be able to pause.
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Yeah. Well, because you're challengingyourself to spend a week without talking,
right, Yeah, okay, youknow, tell me some of the
benefits of pausing. Okay, longerlife, extended life. If I don't
need that, so next, giveme another benefit. Yeah, well,
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it allows you to gain gain clarity, like that's the key to clarity,
right, Like you can't without reallysitting and observing, you don't know what
you're really looking at, like things. It just slows it down a little
bit, because you know, weneed the two movements. We can be
moving real fast fast, but weneed to have this period of slowan like
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you were talking about. You couldbe out and social and engaging with people,
but you know, to really bebalanced, it's healthy to have a
more recluse time or go inward andevery year shifts like that it's the duality
of life. We have yen andwe have young and every year can be
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like one year can be a yinyear or a young year. Like you'll
find that you have cycles or evenseasons where you're more active in one or
or not, and it's all okay. I think our culture also values like
NonStop work or if you're not doingsomething, then you're not being productive.
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Oh that's my sickness one hundred percentfor sure. Yeah, because that is
that has been in my upbringing.I'm sure there's a lot of people listening
right now that can relate to this. Like I have been working since I'm
eleven years old, and you know, basically mostly a workaholic, except when
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I was raising my kids. That'swhen I put some pauses on. You
know. I went from like workinglike twenty hours a day to getting off
at three and spending time with myfamily. So I think that's very important
for you know, I think itdepends on what part of your life you're
into and what you can afford todo. Like if you don't really have
somebody in your life, it's likethe dichomia at you can have this thought
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process, which I've had. Ifyou're not with somebody, then you could
just be that workaholic because you don'tneed to be there for anybody else at
that point in time, nobody's goingto give you a hard time over it,
and you know, at the sametime, you feel like you're accomplishing
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something for when you do get ina situation where you do want to pull
back the rings. Now there's theother side of it is that when you're
doing that and you're so consumed withwork, you know there's certain opportunities maybe
you'll get to meet somebody, Buta lot of times, especially now post
COVID, I think it's important forus all to talk about, especially Mental
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Health Awareness Month, that basically we'veall become a bunch of reclusives because nobody
now wants to go into an officeto work. They all want to work
from home. It's very different thanwhat it was. But when you work
from home, you are secluded.There is something to be said about that
energy of the workplace and being surroundedby other people and the energy that's flowing
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there opposed to just your own energy, you know, And so I think
that's something we experience right now aswell, which makes us more of a
workaholic and see, then there's thatother side. As I was saying that,
well, if you're in that mode, then you're not meeting anybody either.
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So it's that dichotomy of you know, the two sides, the yin
and young, and trying to makethem coexist in the chaos of life.
Yeah, but it's all about likeit's a homeostasis. You know, you
have to there's no way. Iasked this question my first year. I
was, so, I have alot of questions. I'm a very curious
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person, and I want to knowhow things work and why things are and
so everything about it is like,oh, reach a state of balance,
and so everything that we do isfor balance. Like and then you know,
I asked, well, when likedo we ever reach balance? We're
always in a flex always, youknow, so the pause is made Well,
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yeah, you're a libra. Well, I mean, you know the
scales, but the pause is wherelike you can be present, like you
said with like when your family camealong, then you really valued the pause
because that's where you're the present moment. You're watching your being with your children,
like engaging with your family. Wellnot only that, but people also
misunderstand what pause can mean sometimes becauseor or not pause, but balance can
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mean sometimes because balance doesn't mean thatthe seesaw is straight. Balance means you're
able to let the seesaw go upand down but have control of it's balancing
on it as it's going up anddown. That's true. It's like the
ocean, you know, and likeriding the waves. Yeah, and chaos.
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When you were speaking about something earlier, reminded me of the ocean,
like navigating like embracing chaos is islike being in the ocean, you know,
or knowing how to read the thewaves and the you know, it's
like knowing how to read chaos andyour chaos, like I don't know.
That's also a bit of a skillthat takes practice, where the pause would
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be beneficial because it's like, Okay, what's happening before I freak out,
react, or you know, evenchoose a different route like or not see
missed the opportunities within that. Like, Yeah, it can be scary though,
because I know personally it's I'm,you know, not really well read
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on on the currents and stuff likethat, and I would probably get attacked
by the jellyfish larva too. Iit would be kind of fun to watch,
Like you get chased by a shark? Actually, no, absolutely,
what is it you have to punchthem in the nose? I don't know?
Okay, So that's actually because likesubconsciously, would I be able to
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turn and confront my attacker and punchhim? Yeah? Like what and what
if you miss? Yeah? Oror why do I like Tyson's coming at
you and you're trying to punch themin the nose? Who Mike Tyson?
Yeah, that's what it's like ifa shark's coming at like would you I
would like to take a poll howmany people that are not in that business
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would And I've watched some shows andthey don't really punch them. They kind
of guide them. So there yougo. There's a little mission. You
can go like up underneath their chinand well I'd be careful around there because
you might end up without a hand. But not. But seriously, it's
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like you put your It's not thatyou punch the nose. It's like you
put pressure on the nose and guideit where you want and then they realize
that you're not prey, you know, so you know that otherwise if you
act all scared, then they thinkyou are m and then they're going to
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have themselves a gourmet dinner. Yeah, but would you But would you do
it? If a shark was comingat you bigger than you are, what
would you do? Would you stilltry to swim away, knowing that's the
worst thing you could do, orwould you stand your ground and put your
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hand out as its jaws approaching you. Yeah, it's a matter of life
or death. At that moment,you're dead anyway, so I could see.
I can see myself now, areyou. There's plenty of people that
survive shark attacks. But if theyjust bit in, you know, yeah,
just got bit There's actually there's somesurfers a lot here in Florida,
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actually, because Florida is known forthe most shark attacks anywhere in the world.
That it's a badge of honor ifyou have a scar from a shark
bite. Like I was talking topeople that were like bragging out, like
yeah, here, right here,Like you don't surf in Florida unless you
got one of them. Wow,that's that's interesting, so I might Well,
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there's embracing chaos right on the beachis also like sharks sharks there.
Oh, there's sharks everywhere everywhere,Okay, I'm everywhere there's water, there's
sharks. Like, yeah, you'rein that legion, you know how sharks
are surrounded by you? Yeah,landlocked mountain. Yeah, it is kind
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of funny. Like where I live, I'm up being high rise and I
look down at the ocean and Ican watch like huge marine animals swimming around
people and the people have no clueand I can see it. Yeah,
yeah, and I can see itand they have no clue what's like right
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next to them. See that's whatkind of like. Yeah, I will
admit that the ocean is a bitof a scary place for me because there's
so many unknowns. I'm not familiar'suncharted territory for me. But I mean
that's that's the point. It's notyour home either, so there's something to
talk about in a future episode.Like So the way I kind of look
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at it is people say certain thingsabout the sharks and what have you.
It's their home. It's me it'smy backyard, but it's their home.
Okay, I'm a guest in theirhouse. And you have to respect nature,
all kinds of nature, which meansrespect being all kinds of people,
all kinds of places. You know, we're living in this whole, big,
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chaotic world, and the way we'regoing to find clarity is if we
embrace each other. We embrace allof nature, all of Earth, all
of the ocean, all all ofits beings, all everything, because I
think without any of these components,we don't even have us. Yeah,
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I mean we have to respect that. Yeah, like chaos is and clarity
are just two aspects of life,and it's best if we can ride the
wave of that we can't control.Also like what other people's you know,
motives or intentions are, and youknow, sometimes the chaos can be not
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like okay, there's this I thinkit's Buddha that's talks about when when things
are really spinning out of control.So that could be quite chaotic. That
could really be a difficult situation thatyou know, just checking your positioning is
are you in on the spokes ofthe wheel spinning around real fast like that
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you know the chairs at the amusementpark, or are you in the middle.
Just think of my bicycle with alittle thing that came out and it
would go round out, Yeah,and it's quite annoying. Yeah, we
we used to like attach to likeyou know, we used to make that
effect even more with the cards.You just yeah, totally. Yeah,
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anyway, rounded, and this isabout like another tip for chaos is like
getting grounded. It's like really recognizinglike where you're at, what's in front
of you, you know, becauseeveryone today's a new moon too, so
it's also a really good time forseeds and like bringing a very plant that
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my seeds through the spring. Ohyeah, okay, they have a garden.
No, but I have eight grandchildren. Oh okay, those are already
sprouted. Yes, those are stillsprouting. I grow human beings. That's
my that's okay, my career,it's it's my lifelong dream is growing human
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beings. Yeah. I think that'sthat's that's the nature of men. I
think men want to spread their seedfar and wide. Oh, no doubt
about it. Yeah, isn't thatreally what we were put here for?
We were put here for that.And women because women are of a higher
spiritual level and our emotional passionate humanbeings. They have everything else. We
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just have that. Yeah. Wellyeah, you know in feminist in quality
is very new moon. It's newmoon, it's the dark, it's the
mystery. It's the zone of creation. It's like the and speaking of chaos,
there's so many like Lutza like youknow, or these philosophers talk about
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how the most beautiful like a lotusflower, only emerges from the darkest depths,
muddiest like conditions that nothing should thrivein, you know, like even
deep in the ocean there's no light, there's you know, like but things
still survive there and are like lifestill exists. So well, that's an
(40:37):
interesting point because a lot of peoplelike to say that you need you know,
the sun and and and you know, there's part of that's true,
but that was also a big controversyduring previous times, uh, you know,
whereas like oh, you got tolet us out because you know,
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you need vitamin D and maybe wedo. But again, I'm sure these
creatures in the deep ocean they evolved, you know, I think we all
evolve and assimilate to the environment.So again I find that embracing the chaos
because if you know, you can'treally survive in that environment, but then
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you just keep going and embrace it, then you end up in the springtime
evolving into something better. Mm hmm. Yeah. And if you think about
the winter is the time where everythingsleeps, it hibernates, it gets well,
at least here where you know theThe world is full of different seasons
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and climates, that's for sure,but if you go on a four season
o'clock, the winter represents that deepreflective death time. Like just like in
the end of cycle, it's theit's actually also the North associated with the
element or the direction of the North, and that's you know, end of
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the cycle. So naturally then thespring emerges and it's the new cycle.
I know. It's such a naturallygood you know. And I add to
that, like being from New York, in New Jersey, it's kind of
viewed as our hibernation was that's whenyou were a workaholic because you couldn't do
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anything else. It's freezing cold,blah blah blah, it's snow and all
that. So you put all yourenergy into work so that you could be
able to enjoy life when winter's over. So for us, the spring means
waking up from that hibernation of work, work, work, work, work,
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work, and then creating the balanceof work and personal time and creating
that balance of life. Yeah,because like it's very that that yin quality
of like the deep reflective focus thatcould be the work winter months, and
then the more expansive light, youngmale active energy, like the spark you
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know, it's on the opposite.It's yeah, yeah, spark, the
spark, the clarity freak, thespark that chaos, you know, and
clarity bring into our lives. Youknow. It's like it makes I find
that it makes life interesting even ifit's you know, moody, I should
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say, like, because it's not. It's not necessarily fun to go through
all the time, right, Likewe all want the good, good life
living without maybe accepting the bad,right, And it's you know what good
life living is to me? WhatI woke up this wine. I looked
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at my nightstand and there was ahalf a bag of these akins Eminem's not
Eminem's like Reese's pieces that were happynthat I have no memory of. What's
that's funny? I mean that happenedto you before sleepy, not really really
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well, there's been time well,not that I don't remember, Like there's
times I have woke up in themiddle of nine and and like went straight
to refriger and stuff. But thereason I'm bringing that up though, even
though it's true and it's funny,is I think that's an our thing of
finding clarity is because there are thingsabout us deep and deep inside that we
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need to let out and explore.And you know, I mean, I'm
not saying I had to find outthat I was a sugar addic, because
but I did say, Well,it's like heroin, man, I'm like
that now on my serious addict thatI woke up in the morning and like
I get the stuff that has nosugar in it because I can't do the
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sugar because I am a sugar addict. But see, there's an example too
of you know, the language ofhealing. Maybe that rush, that feeling
is the healing that helps somebody likeme, you know, because it have
to be a negative, doesn't haveto be you're a sugar addict and it's
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bad. Maybe it's just you're you'reusing another outlet to try to create that
euphoric feeling that hopefully is a damagingscenario. Yeah, I mean, I
think that the language of healing isall about being able to listen in and
queue with with the messages that arecoming to you, and that could be
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physical ones. I mean, there'smany, many realms, you know,
even in the sleeping realm, that'sa whole things. I think that happens
when you're working until two am.Like, yeah, there's also that.
Yeah, it's maybe a little bitlike fried system. You know. Maybe
maybe also your body needed a littlesubstance. You're lucky. I guess that
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you didn't wake up with it allmelted, you know, and then you
thought maybe you're like overnight. That'salso shows the deep me because no,
I would not let that happen.Seeing there's the other side, but it
was neatly on my nightstand because there'sno way I would let that happen.
(46:37):
You wouldn't let a mess in yourbed or what you know? Probably not.
Yeah, there's like well chaos andorder, right, Okay, this
is another thing about the chaos andwhat I noticed with the springtime, with
the wind and the change and lotsof it's high movement. It's like the
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rapids of the river, So youbetter hold on, get ready. It's
best if you know where you standbefore diving in there. So that's where
the winter time is of value tous, because we have the time for
the stillness and the quiet and thedeep, reflective time to connect with ourselves
so we can emerge in the springready to go, like you know,
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like imagine or you know that feelingwhen when life is moving really fast and
you don't feel ready and it's likeyou're you're almost drowning trying to keep up
with it. And that's where youknow, missopportunities come in or you just
don't have the capacity to hold theshift and the change, and maybe that's
why we don't grow, you know, as as big and far as we
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want to, and that can befrustrating if we're not moving as far as
we would like and being held back. But anger too, frustration anger,
and that repressed becomes depression. Andso when we're talking about mental Health Health
Month, the spring season is likethe time to really see what you're made
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of, you know, I thinkthat it does offer a true test of
symbolically right, like you could begoing through this any season, you could
be spring cleaning any season, butit's the energetics of that element and the
liver we talk I talk about theliver as it has a personality according to
Chinese medicine, like it's like aphysical structure, but it's also you know,
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an archetype or has certain qualities characteristics. It governs our site, our
vision. It also regulates our time. So having clarity helps us with our
time, like our pastime or presenttime or future time. Gives us insight,
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and it's the general It tells us, it directs us where to go.
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W four WN Radio. Are youready to take a journey. Let's connect
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Language of Healing on W four WNRadio and Talk for TV. Now here's
your host, doctor Nicole Forton.Hello, Hello, everyone, and welcome
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to another episode of the Language ofHealing. I'm your host, Nicole.
We've got the pig Man as theco host. Hello. Hello, Hello,
how are you Nicole? I'm goodgood. I want to hear a
story. Yeah, oh, astory, yes, like anything in particular
or yeah. I want to knowwhere Forton comes from? Oh yeah,
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so well this is I I've beentold it's a very regional area, like
from Quebec French Canadian. Yeah,I'm I'm my dad's French Canadian. So
it's like a small northern town.And the story I heard once I met
(01:34):
a guy named Nicholas Forton and wethought that was kind of funny. And
he's like good friends with my sister's, you know, pretty much husband.
So it's all in the family andthat's how it kind of is out there.
So in that northern area of Quebec, it's like, you know,
you'll find many, many, manyof them. Like the phone book,
you won't see it anywhere by inQuebec, you'll have five pages of it,
(01:57):
you know, but it means itmeans apparently it was a you know,
obviously just descendants from Europe and we'remixed with indigenous I'm not sure about
that. And they would build littleforts from the Gaspe into Thunder Bay and
it was like a trading route,so they were like the little fort people,
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little fort and then fort also inFrench means strong, so it's like,
I don't know, strength, strength, you know what I just heard
from all of that. What thatbecause of your name you have strength from
chaos? M Yeah, it isa real you know, resilience builder,
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that's for sure. And see,because you know, we're talking about embracing
chaos, So I mean, howdo we embrace it? We get our
strength from it instead of laying thatcreate weakness. Mm hmm. Yeah,
well you can't really, you know, the dim what is that saying about
the diamonds. You can't get adiamond without like high high high pressure.
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It's like the pressure of the chaos, the heat. You know. Yeah,
it does. It's a transformational process. I love it. I mean
it's really that's a good way tokind of blend it all together because I
do have I have a lot ofexperience embracing chaos. Well, and that's
why I bring it up too,because I think everybody really does. Yeah
(03:30):
yeah, sure, sure phenomenon.I mean, that's why we have to
tell our own stories that maybe wedon't tell anywhere else. A lot of
times, you know, we don'ttell our stories anywhere else except this kind
of platform, so people can seethat. You know, even if you
make it look easy, it definitelyis not easy. It's all about embracing
(03:55):
that chaos and making lemons out oflemonade exactly. Actually, you would make
lemonade out of lemons, but Igot I kind of got it backwards.
Yeah, yeah, I was alittle chaotic. I'm saying that I didn't
even notice. I'm so used tothe chaos, and it just it makes
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you know, even if it's chaos, it makes sense, like that's where
you want to have a level ofacceptance with chaos, and that's where the
magic happens. I was just talkingto somebody last night about certain things from
my twenties that I was thinking,Wow, Like, what the hell was
(04:38):
I thinking? I And I saythat because I kind of like I was
attracted to thrived on and thought itwas the best thing in the world to
embrace chaos, but in a notso good way. And I think we're
going to talk today about how todo it in a good way. And
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that's what you learn as you gothrough these experiences and these different chaotic points
of your life, is how toembrace it the good way. There's always
a good way and a not sogood way. I don't even say bad,
because there's no bad way. There'sno wrong way. Every way is
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right. It just may not beright for that person or for that time,
or maybe it is right for thatperson that time and not another time.
You know, Yeah, you haveto be able to be really good
at gauging where you're at in themoment, like what is your climate,
what's your environment now? And whatdo you want now? I think it
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always changes, you know. That'sthe gift of chaos, is that it
supports growth and evolution. And youknow, through the pressure or through getting
those lemons, that's how you getthe sweetness of life. You know,
you have to have the bidder toenjoy the sweet. And so tell us
more about that and more about howthe language of healing kind of your whole
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philosophy on how to help with that, well so big. I mean it's
like my lifelong mission and journey.I personally love this kind of topic because
and I'm you know, we're talkingabout the springtime and here where I am
in Calgary, it's well, we'vehad every season this week, so I
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don't know what season it is really, but it'll be like, yeah,
that's just like the great thing aboutliving here is we'll have like snow,
you know, sunny, amazing weather. Rain. Well that's chaos too,
is it. Yeah? And nowwe have like the wind today is such
a windy day and from Chinese medicineperspective, the springtime is associated with the
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wind. It's like the winds ofchange that I also can't help. But
like think about the scorpions song windsof change, you know, I was
just thinking like that sounds like asong to me. Yeah, I have
a lot of lyrics playing through mymind right now round this topic, because
I think that a lot of musicis written around these times of turmoil too.
And then it's like how to findclarity or how do we dig deep
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inside of us to really create apositive change, because like you said,
you can go in a more destructiveway and or positive You always have a
choice. And the beautiful thing aboutChinese medicine and like ancient like Taoism Confucism,
they're really built on or based onobservation. So it's how does the
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external environment meet our internal environment,you know, And because like we the
cycles change all the time, andso they observe observe that. And yeah,
so but the duality, it's there'snever we never escape duality. So
we always have choice and the willis you know what drives that and the
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liver season, the wind winds ofchange, it's a real time of expansion.
So personally, it's my favorite timeof year, one of my favorite
topics because I noticed a lot ofstuckness happens now and then with my job
that I get to help people unlockthat stuckness or like create new pathways,
(08:16):
new new channels. It's it's agreat opportunity to really build on what you
want, get your desires. AndI'm all about helping people get what they
want because that's you know, whatare some strategies for finding clarity in springtime?
And I want before you even answerthat, I want to say everybody
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talks about New Year's it makes NewYear's resolutions, but really, isn't it
the springtime that should be the cleansingand the and the also like just observing
all that's going on and what roadyou want to take from there. And
to me, finding clarity is defectof the whole idea of spring cleaning.
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To me, that should be allthe time, because when there's not clarity
around you, there's not clarity inyour head. Mmm. Yeah, I
have a good, well, alot of interesting points like around that because
I find that well, mental clarityis really important. I did this the
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passion of meditation have you heard ofthat. It's like a ten days silent
retreat. Oh yeah, yeah,I don't know if I could do that.
I don't know if a lot ofpeople say that, that's like probably
one of the most I actually could, though, to be honest, it
is funny because you talk about duality. Okay, So like when I'm out
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there, you know, I justdid Sunfestus past week, a music festival,
so I'm out there in the inthe public, and then yeah,
I like all the noise, andI let and I you know, I'm
engaging and extrovert. Did But thenthere's also I like the times where I
come home from like the Pipemin radiotour, and I just seclude and don't
(10:09):
even leave and don't interact with anybodyexcept business wise. But then other than
that, and I could definitely listen. I joke about it because people would
probably play bet late bets and maybethat would be a good fundraising campaign,
okay for Mental Health Awareness Month.That may be the funding campaign right there
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is that can the pipe man goa week without saying one word? And
I'm saying right now, apps offrecolutely like just don't talk to me,
Like it would be just as good. Don't talk to me, just leave
me alone, let me be inmy solitude, and I'm cool with that,
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you know. And then and thenthat much money, how much money
do you need to I think there'sa lot and there's a lot of mental
health going on out there, soI think there's a lot that needs to
be raised. And so yeah,let's all I think the whole world like
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should go on reset and for awhole week. Go do that thing for
a whole week and nobody say anything, and just reset the whole world because
right now there's not one place onthis earth. And you know, I
haven't been to every place, butas you know, I've been to a
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lot of places that there's not chaosright now. And so I think that's
where defining clarity is in the springtimeto me is hitting the reset button and
starting over and doing it then insteadof new year, because the new year
doesn't mean the same. Springtime hasso much meaning to it, or at
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least I think so. Yeah,I've always always connected with that sentiment too.
I feel naturally that the springtime isis more renewal it's new year,
and I mean I love the likethe you know, you look at the
lunar calendar and it's all it's likethe spring time, right, And I
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mean in Chinese culture they have theSpring festival, that's what they call it.
It's like their lunar New Year isthe spring festival. So they're not
like and and the energy is mIt's like something needs to move and like
really disrupt your natural rhythm to reallycreate that shift. Like the wind.
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I used to hate wind, Okay, like I loathe wind. It's probably
my least favorite element. I candeal with the cold, I can deal
with the heat and that, youknow, humidity, but the wind just
really like irritated me. And wetalk about in Chinese medica, if you
have an aversion, just a strongaversion to something, that probably means you
need to balance something, right,like I would say, so, yeah,
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I've learned to love the wind,and I'll not love it, Okay,
maybe I should I accept it.I used to love the wind till
like the jellyfish larva were attacking meand there was wind. Then I now
not so much. I heard aboutthis. Yeah, I'm like, it's
no, it's windy. Even nowI look outside, I'm like, oh
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it's windy. I'm not throwing inthe water. Mm hmm, yes,
I know it can it can.It has the potential to blow in chaos,
that's for sure. Yes, absolutely. Stung by jellyfish is not good.
Well, the larva is worse.Mm it's like having herpes. Mm
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hmm. Like, man, wellyou get the read hot. Do you
really want me to describe this onthe language of healing? Yeah exactly,
I mean save that for the adventuresof pipe Man. Anyone interested in Piemend's
herpies can go there to tune in. Yeah, okay, so I think
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we're going to have to take anote right now for me to if you
tune in tomorrow at one pm,I'll continue that part of the conversation.
Yes, yeah, the pie Manhas a radio station on W four C
why dot com. You can findit on uh there Wednesdays at one pm
(14:37):
Eastern. Yeah. I don't evenknow how I'm allowed over here. I'm
not normally allowed on the stage.Yeah, that's true. This is the
Women for Women network and Piemend's adventuresare a bit raunchy, maybe a little
bit too too adventurous. But Dean, on the other hand, yeah here,
(15:00):
Yeah, Dean's here. Pipe Man'snot here. See you're trying to
pull pipe Man out, but Iwouldn't let you. See you were testing
it. Pipe Man is in thecage right now. Yeah, good,
good, good. No, you'rea professional obviously, you know, and
maybe that's like the duality of it. We should stretch our personality, we
should we should be able to youknow, I'm a strong like advocate obviously
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for knowing who you are and whatyou stand for and having a strong sense
of self. I think that's abig mission of life. You know,
who am I, what am Idoing? What's my purpose? But you
know, but it's also really importantto explore and and well that's how you
find out who you are, don'tyou. Yeah, yeah, you know,
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if you listen. That's one thingI can say. The you know,
the pipe Man personality, which wasn'talways it started you know, evolved
from and you know it kind ofhappened by accident, not on purpose,
but it is a learning experience again, Okay, so embracing chaos. So
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all my life I was surrounded bychaos. So I took this radio personality
and created it where like kind oflike I was like on Star Trek,
I was you know, getting uhI can't believe I'm losing the word trying.
Uh yeah, yeah. Being beamedinto you know, the reality of
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my surroundings instead of me and andlike be part of the chaos, and
being part of the chaos instead ofjust being surrounded by the chaos. Lets
you kind of understand the chaos evenbetter too, and to really find the
clarity of who you really are insteadof what society thinks you should be,
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what everybody else thinks you should be, because your whole life, if the
way you go that is the chaosyour whole life, your whole life.
It's like you have to be whatyour parents expect you be, and then
you have to be who your friendsexpect you be, and then significant other
and children and any type of authority, whether it go from school to job
or what. There's all these expectationsin every aspect of your life. And
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I think until you embrace that thatchaos, the clarity that you find is
you at the end of the day. Because there's certain things now, even
for me that if you talk tome fifteen years ago, I would have
sing a different tune in the respectof I would never do something like that.
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And now it's like well, yeah, I would, because I don't
care what anybody else thinks except me. And that's the true chaos is that
you don't get to a point whereit's just you know you, really you
think about just you. That's whenyou're embracing the chaos and then you can
figure it out your clarity. That'smy opinion. Yeah, well it's interesting
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point because the the chaos, Ithink that is the virtue of it.
Right, It's like, well,that's what we're talking about, is the
clarity you can find through those adversethat adversity, right, like being in
the pressure cooker and at the difference, like you know, what is our
what are our cycles? I meanthere's many different What I love about,
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uh, you know, different perspectivesfrom around the world is that there's a
lot of different ways to approach lifeor the different stages phases of life,
you know, like maybe just saythe primary, secondary, tertiary or you
know, and there's there's different themesfor every every part. So I think
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something that you did before served youthen and you may not do it now
and then vice versa, right,growing upon the base, you know,
like different layers and levels and yeah, deeper understanding deeper. Well, you
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know, I think about studying acupuncturebecause you have to study like there's really
really specific points. You have tonail those points. You have to know
how to find them. And westudy for you know, four or five
years. You're studying the same thingover and over and over again. It's
like mister Miyagi's approach to like wellbeing, you know, the wax on
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wax off, Like what am I? What am I going on and on
about this? But you don't realizethat you're building this depth and layer and
there's like a purpose to things thatdon't make sense and chaos doesn't make sense,
and our subconscious ego wants to makesense of everything. And you know,
and then we have choice. Wehave ability to respond to it or
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react to it. And that's whatdrives our course, our pathways and anyway.
We always have, you know,opportunity to I'm big about everything's a
choice. Like people say they hadno choice. You have a choice.
You may not like the choices thatyou have to pick from. Oh hey
that you always have a choice.Yeah, And to really change. I
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was thinking about this because it takesa lot of courage to change and go
through change and to really stand strong, like in the darkness, you know,
if it's perceived as darkness, orbecause chaos can be great, like
I see so much change happening rightnow around me, me personally but also
people in my life, and itcan be good. It can be the
birth of a new child, itcan be but also like death, you
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know, or going through something reallydifficult, but it can also be a
move or so there's chaos can begood and bad. Yeah, sorry,
maybe I lost my little thought there. No choice is a choice. We
got a little comment here, mate, and making no choice is a choice.
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Yeah, I think that. I'mpretty sure there's a song about that
too, is it? Who doesit? I feel like that's a rush
thing. All roads lead to rushfor Canadians. Is that what the deal
is? Like? All roads?But hey, you know, can help
us out and find that no choiceis still a choice or something like that.
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Yeah, I know which song you'retalking about. By the way,
do you know which time? Iam embarrassed that I don't I know which
you don't come to me, Butyou know what, you know what songs
did pretty well? Pretty well?Oh free will? Oh yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah, that's right,good work. I love it now.
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See, I also have to sayis like the issue is you can't control
the chaos. You can't control otherpeople's actions, other people's words, other
environmental influences or anything that's going on. You can choose though, to and
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how you would embrace the chaos isto choose to understand it, because until
you understand it, you know,you really are in turmoil with it,
opposed to being able to use itto your advantage. Because again going back
to what I said, there's goodand bad, you know, so in
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order to find the good out ofit, that's going to be a good
benefit to you, that's what youhave to do. Yeah, that reminds
me of like, you know,resistance or when you're not accepting of it,
you know, then it gets worse, right exactly. Yeah, there's
Yeah, they talk a lot aboutchaos as this transformational like agent, you
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know, in a lot of that'sin Chinese medicine. I guess that's kind
of my background and obviously, butdealing with like you know, because I
see a lot of people with painor you know, people aren't coming in
mostly to be like I feel greatand I want to keep feeling great.
It's usually something that brings them in. It's like this catalyst for change,
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and so you know, you kindof have to accept it. You got
to get down with the sickness firstand then you can go with another song
reference. Yeah, I know.I think it's because I'm going to a
rock and roll festival. Where areyou going? Well, but the rest
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of people don't know. Yeah,that's why I'm asking you. Yeah,
Okay, I'm heading to Daytona Beach, Florida or Welcome to Rockville, which
is on the pipemin radio tour yeper and You'll be working and I'll be
having fun. I'll be having morefun than you. But I'm gonna be
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like I'm gonna be caged off fromyou. Yeah yeah, yeah, we'll
be separate. Yeah, you needto be caged. I'm gonna be hiding
from you. Yeah, You'll neverescape. Uh So tell us what other
strategies in the language of feeling willyou know, create the kind clarity that
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we need to spring time to reallysee a change in our life. Okay,
So I think the first thing reallyis okay, going back to the
way I was telling you about thethe silent retreat. You know it really
because you brought up something. Imean, okay, that for me was
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like where they related this analogy ofits mental hygiene. It's like, oh
yeah, spring cleaning, you saidthat should be all the time thing.
Well, same with like our abilityto cleanse the mind and cleanse the spirit.
You know, it's like or cleansethe heart. It's it gets overloaded
and we don't realize it. Weshower, you know, we physically hygienically
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deal with ourselves. We go tothe gym, right, we take care
of our food that we eat,But do we really like cleanse the mind?
And this is how we can doit. So periods of reflection looking
back. See, we can't reallymove forward unless we know where we've come
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from. So there's support in reflectingon the past or looking at where we've
come from to that look at wherewe're at now, and then where do
we want to go? So Ithink that my biggest, my biggest tip
for this time of year would beto pause and just have just like take
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in the stillness a little bit,because that is that's that is a choice
and it is a movement. Andthe body does this too. It's like
every inhill has a pause and thenexhale, pause in. Hell, you
know there's that's a phase. It'snot just in out, it's in pause
(26:38):
out, pause in. Yeah.Yeah, I pause at least once a
day. Okay, when is that? I don't know. I haven't figured
it out yet. Okay, yeah, this is what we're gonna fund raise
some money for you for for theTalk four TV. Be able to pause.
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Yeah. Well, because you're challengingyourself to spend a week without talking,
right, Yeah, okay, youknow, tell me some of the
benefits of pausing. Okay, longerlife, extended life. If I don't
need that, so next, giveme another benefit. Yeah, well,
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it allows you to gain gain clarity, like that's the key to clarity,
right, Like you can't without reallysitting and observing, you don't know what
you're really looking at, like things. It just slows it down a little
bit, because you know, weneed the two movements. We can be
moving real fast fast, but weneed to have this period of slowan like
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you were talking about. You couldbe out and social and engaging with people,
but you know, to really bebalanced, it's healthy to have a
more recluse time or go inward andevery year shifts like that it's the duality
of life. We have yen andwe have young and every year can be
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like one year can be a yinyear or a young year. Like you'll
find that you have cycles or evenseasons where you're more active in one or
or not, and it's all okay. I think our culture also values like
NonStop work or if you're not doingsomething, then you're not being productive.
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Oh that's my sickness one hundred percentfor sure. Yeah, because that is
that has been in my upbringing.I'm sure there's a lot of people listening
right now that can relate to this. Like I have been working since I'm
eleven years old, and you know, basically mostly a workaholic, except when
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I was raising my kids. That'swhen I put some pauses on. You
know. I went from like workinglike twenty hours a day to getting off
at three and spending time with myfamily. So I think that's very important
for you know, I think itdepends on what part of your life you're
into and what you can afford todo. Like if you don't really have
somebody in your life, it's likethe dichomia at you can have this thought
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process, which I've had. Ifyou're not with somebody, then you could
just be that workaholic because you don'tneed to be there for anybody else at
that point in time, nobody's goingto give you a hard time over it,
and you know, at the sametime, you feel like you're accomplishing
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something for when you do get ina situation where you do want to pull
back the rings. Now there's theother side of it is that when you're
doing that and you're so consumed withwork, you know there's certain opportunities maybe
you'll get to meet somebody, Buta lot of times, especially now post
COVID, I think it's important forus all to talk about, especially Mental
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Health Awareness Month, that basically we'veall become a bunch of reclusives because nobody
now wants to go into an officeto work. They all want to work
from home. It's very different thanwhat it was. But when you work
from home, you are secluded.There is something to be said about that
energy of the workplace and being surroundedby other people and the energy that's flowing
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there opposed to just your own energy, you know, And so I think
that's something we experience right now aswell, which makes us more of a
workaholic and see, then there's thatother side. As I was saying that,
well, if you're in that mode, then you're not meeting anybody either.
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So it's that dichotomy of you know, the two sides, the yin
and young, and trying to makethem coexist in the chaos of life.
Yeah, but it's all about likeit's a homeostasis. You know, you
have to there's no way. Iasked this question my first year. I
was, so, I have alot of questions. I'm a very curious
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person, and I want to knowhow things work and why things are and
so everything about it is like,oh, reach a state of balance,
and so everything that we do isfor balance. Like and then you know,
I asked, well, when likedo we ever reach balance? We're
always in a flex always, youknow, so the pause is made Well,
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yeah, you're a libra. Well, I mean, you know the
scales, but the pause is wherelike you can be present, like you
said with like when your family camealong, then you really valued the pause
because that's where you're the present moment. You're watching your being with your children,
like engaging with your family. Wellnot only that, but people also
misunderstand what pause can mean sometimes becauseor or not pause, but balance can
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mean sometimes because balance doesn't mean thatthe seesaw is straight. Balance means you're
able to let the seesaw go upand down but have control of it's balancing
on it as it's going up anddown. That's true. It's like the
ocean, you know, and likeriding the waves. Yeah, and chaos.
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When you were speaking about something earlier, reminded me of the ocean,
like navigating like embracing chaos is islike being in the ocean, you know,
or knowing how to read the thewaves and the you know, it's
like knowing how to read chaos andyour chaos, like I don't know.
That's also a bit of a skillthat takes practice, where the pause would
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be beneficial because it's like, Okay, what's happening before I freak out,
react, or you know, evenchoose a different route like or not see
missed the opportunities within that. Like, Yeah, it can be scary though,
because I know personally it's I'm,you know, not really well read
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on on the currents and stuff likethat, and I would probably get attacked
by the jellyfish larva too. Iit would be kind of fun to watch,
Like you get chased by a shark? Actually, no, absolutely,
what is it you have to punchthem in the nose? I don't know?
Okay, So that's actually because likesubconsciously, would I be able to
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turn and confront my attacker and punchhim? Yeah? Like what and what
if you miss? Yeah? Oror why do I like Tyson's coming at
you and you're trying to punch themin the nose? Who Mike Tyson?
Yeah, that's what it's like ifa shark's coming at like would you I
would like to take a poll howmany people that are not in that business
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would And I've watched some shows andthey don't really punch them. They kind
of guide them. So there yougo. There's a little mission. You
can go like up underneath their chinand well I'd be careful around there because
you might end up without a hand. But not. But seriously, it's
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like you put your It's not thatyou punch the nose. It's like you
put pressure on the nose and guideit where you want and then they realize
that you're not prey, you know, so you know that otherwise if you
act all scared, then they thinkyou are m and then they're going to
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have themselves a gourmet dinner. Yeah, but would you But would you do
it? If a shark was comingat you bigger than you are, what
would you do? Would you stilltry to swim away, knowing that's the
worst thing you could do, orwould you stand your ground and put your
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hand out as its jaws approaching you. Yeah, it's a matter of life
or death. At that moment,you're dead anyway, so I could see.
I can see myself now, areyou. There's plenty of people that
survive shark attacks. But if theyjust bit in, you know, yeah,
just got bit There's actually there's somesurfers a lot here in Florida,
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actually, because Florida is known forthe most shark attacks anywhere in the world.
That it's a badge of honor ifyou have a scar from a shark
bite. Like I was talking topeople that were like bragging out, like
yeah, here, right here,Like you don't surf in Florida unless you
got one of them. Wow,that's that's interesting, so I might Well,
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there's embracing chaos right on the beachis also like sharks sharks there.
Oh, there's sharks everywhere everywhere,Okay, I'm everywhere there's water, there's
sharks. Like, yeah, you'rein that legion, you know how sharks
are surrounded by you? Yeah,landlocked mountain. Yeah, it is kind
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of funny. Like where I live, I'm up being high rise and I
look down at the ocean and Ican watch like huge marine animals swimming around
people and the people have no clueand I can see it. Yeah,
yeah, and I can see itand they have no clue what's like right
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next to them. See that's whatkind of like. Yeah, I will
admit that the ocean is a bitof a scary place for me because there's
so many unknowns. I'm not familiar'suncharted territory for me. But I mean
that's that's the point. It's notyour home either, so there's something to
talk about in a future episode.Like So the way I kind of look
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at it is people say certain thingsabout the sharks and what have you.
It's their home. It's me it'smy backyard, but it's their home.
Okay, I'm a guest in theirhouse. And you have to respect nature,
all kinds of nature, which meansrespect being all kinds of people,
all kinds of places. You know, we're living in this whole, big,
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chaotic world, and the way we'regoing to find clarity is if we
embrace each other. We embrace allof nature, all of Earth, all
of the ocean, all all ofits beings, all everything, because I
think without any of these components,we don't even have us. Yeah,
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I mean we have to respect that. Yeah, like chaos is and clarity
are just two aspects of life,and it's best if we can ride the
wave of that we can't control.Also like what other people's you know,
motives or intentions are, and youknow, sometimes the chaos can be not
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like okay, there's this I thinkit's Buddha that's talks about when when things
are really spinning out of control.So that could be quite chaotic. That
could really be a difficult situation thatyou know, just checking your positioning is
are you in on the spokes ofthe wheel spinning around real fast like that
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you know the chairs at the amusementpark, or are you in the middle.
Just think of my bicycle with alittle thing that came out and it
would go round out, Yeah,and it's quite annoying. Yeah, we
we used to like attach to likeyou know, we used to make that
effect even more with the cards.You just yeah, totally. Yeah,
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anyway, rounded, and this isabout like another tip for chaos is like
getting grounded. It's like really recognizinglike where you're at, what's in front
of you, you know, becauseeveryone today's a new moon too, so
it's also a really good time forseeds and like bringing a very plant that
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my seeds through the spring. Ohyeah, okay, they have a garden.
No, but I have eight grandchildren. Oh okay, those are already
sprouted. Yes, those are stillsprouting. I grow human beings. That's
my that's okay, my career,it's it's my lifelong dream is growing human
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beings. Yeah. I think that'sthat's that's the nature of men. I
think men want to spread their seedfar and wide. Oh, no doubt
about it. Yeah, isn't thatreally what we were put here for?
We were put here for that.And women because women are of a higher
spiritual level and our emotional passionate humanbeings. They have everything else. We
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just have that. Yeah. Wellyeah, you know in feminist in quality
is very new moon. It's newmoon, it's the dark, it's the
mystery. It's the zone of creation. It's like the and speaking of chaos,
there's so many like Lutza like youknow, or these philosophers talk about
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how the most beautiful like a lotusflower, only emerges from the darkest depths,
muddiest like conditions that nothing should thrivein, you know, like even
deep in the ocean there's no light, there's you know, like but things
still survive there and are like lifestill exists. So well, that's an
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interesting point because a lot of peoplelike to say that you need you know,
the sun and and and you know, there's part of that's true,
but that was also a big controversyduring previous times, uh, you know,
whereas like oh, you got tolet us out because you know,
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you need vitamin D and maybe wedo. But again, I'm sure these
creatures in the deep ocean they evolved, you know, I think we all
evolve and assimilate to the environment.So again I find that embracing the chaos
because if you know, you can'treally survive in that environment, but then
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you just keep going and embrace it, then you end up in the springtime
evolving into something better. Mm hmm. Yeah. And if you think about
the winter is the time where everythingsleeps, it hibernates, it gets well,
at least here where you know theThe world is full of different seasons
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and climates, that's for sure,but if you go on a four season
o'clock, the winter represents that deepreflective death time. Like just like in
the end of cycle, it's theit's actually also the North associated with the
element or the direction of the North, and that's you know, end of
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the cycle. So naturally then thespring emerges and it's the new cycle.
I know. It's such a naturallygood you know. And I add to
that, like being from New York, in New Jersey, it's kind of
viewed as our hibernation was that's whenyou were a workaholic because you couldn't do
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anything else. It's freezing cold,blah blah blah, it's snow and all
that. So you put all yourenergy into work so that you could be
able to enjoy life when winter's over. So for us, the spring means
waking up from that hibernation of work, work, work, work, work,
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work, and then creating the balanceof work and personal time and creating
that balance of life. Yeah,because like it's very that that yin quality
of like the deep reflective focus thatcould be the work winter months, and
then the more expansive light, youngmale active energy, like the spark you
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know, it's on the opposite.It's yeah, yeah, spark, the
spark, the clarity freak, thespark that chaos, you know, and
clarity bring into our lives. Youknow. It's like it makes I find
that it makes life interesting even ifit's you know, moody, I should
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say, like, because it's not. It's not necessarily fun to go through
all the time, right, Likewe all want the good, good life
living without maybe accepting the bad,right, And it's you know what good
life living is to me? WhatI woke up this wine. I looked
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at my nightstand and there was ahalf a bag of these akins Eminem's not
Eminem's like Reese's pieces that were happynthat I have no memory of. What's
that's funny? I mean that happenedto you before sleepy, not really really
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well, there's been time well,not that I don't remember, Like there's
times I have woke up in themiddle of nine and and like went straight
to refriger and stuff. But thereason I'm bringing that up though, even
though it's true and it's funny,is I think that's an our thing of
finding clarity is because there are thingsabout us deep and deep inside that we
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need to let out and explore.And you know, I mean, I'm
not saying I had to find outthat I was a sugar addic, because
but I did say, Well,it's like heroin, man, I'm like
that now on my serious addict thatI woke up in the morning and like
I get the stuff that has nosugar in it because I can't do the
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sugar because I am a sugar addict. But see, there's an example too
of you know, the language ofhealing. Maybe that rush, that feeling
is the healing that helps somebody likeme, you know, because it have
to be a negative, doesn't haveto be you're a sugar addict and it's
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bad. Maybe it's just you're you'reusing another outlet to try to create that
euphoric feeling that hopefully is a damagingscenario. Yeah, I mean, I
think that the language of healing isall about being able to listen in and
queue with with the messages that arecoming to you, and that could be
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physical ones. I mean, there'smany, many realms, you know,
even in the sleeping realm, that'sa whole things. I think that happens
when you're working until two am.Like, yeah, there's also that.
Yeah, it's maybe a little bitlike fried system. You know. Maybe
maybe also your body needed a littlesubstance. You're lucky. I guess that
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you didn't wake up with it allmelted, you know, and then you
thought maybe you're like overnight. That'salso shows the deep me because no,
I would not let that happen.Seeing there's the other side, but it
was neatly on my nightstand because there'sno way I would let that happen.
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You wouldn't let a mess in yourbed or what you know? Probably not.
Yeah, there's like well chaos andorder, right, Okay, this
is another thing about the chaos andwhat I noticed with the springtime, with
the wind and the change and lotsof it's high movement. It's like the
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rapids of the river, So youbetter hold on, get ready. It's
best if you know where you standbefore diving in there. So that's where
the winter time is of value tous, because we have the time for
the stillness and the quiet and thedeep, reflective time to connect with ourselves
so we can emerge in the springready to go, like you know,
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like imagine or you know that feelingwhen when life is moving really fast and
you don't feel ready and it's likeyou're you're almost drowning trying to keep up
with it. And that's where youknow, missopportunities come in or you just
don't have the capacity to hold theshift and the change, and maybe that's
why we don't grow, you know, as as big and far as we
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want to, and that can befrustrating if we're not moving as far as
we would like and being held back. But anger too, frustration anger,
and that repressed becomes depression. Andso when we're talking about mental Health Health
Month, the spring season is likethe time to really see what you're made
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of, you know, I thinkthat it does offer a true test of
symbolically right, like you could begoing through this any season, you could
be spring cleaning any season, butit's the energetics of that element and the
liver we talk I talk about theliver as it has a personality according to
Chinese medicine, like it's like aphysical structure, but it's also you know,
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an archetype or has certain qualities characteristics. It governs our site, our
vision. It also regulates our time. So having clarity helps us with our
time, like our pastime or presenttime or future time. Gives us insight,
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and it's the general It tells us, it directs us where to go.
It's our pathway forward and here's wherewe have to go. Now,
you're going to tell everybody what theycan look forward to by tuning in again
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to be in Florida. I'm goingto be in Florida, So we're gonna
have a really special guest as well, who is all about language and healing
and I think that will be agreat addition to our show. And yeah,
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