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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Are you ready to take a journey. Let's connect with
the healers of the world. It's that time. It's time
for the Language of Healing on W four WN Radio
and Talk for TV. Now here's your host, doctor Nicole Forton.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hello, Hello everybody, and welcome to another great episode on
the Language of Healing. The Dog days of Summer are
here and we're going to talk all about our dogs
and our.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Pets and our positive episode.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Here.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm Nicole, your host. This is Dane Piper, the Pipe
Man co host, and we're on the Women for Women Network.
Thanks for tuning in and joining us today and Wow,
today's going to be a great show. We have a
special guest.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I know, well, yeah it is well, and I'm very excited.
And I see too, I can't resist. But I see
too that you did your hair kind of like the
the older women in South Florida do to their dogs here.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, exactly, I did go with an extra hair do today.
I've got my extra you know, like bun ears and a.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Little waggy waggy tail.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Ye see, there you go.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I couldn't resist. I couldn't resist.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Let's get is the pet health Guru. I met him
two thousand seven the game two thous and ate somewhere
around there, and basically I had him as a guest
on my show when I had a show on another
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network before this network even existed. And so then when
we started to network here eighteen years ago, there were
two shows, three shows on the network. One was mine,
one was somebody else that was associated with me that
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was also at that other network that came over. And
the other one was the Pet Health Cafe with the
Pet Health Group. And so for eighteen years on this network,
he has been helping people with their pets, not only
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in educating them, not only in solving their problems, but
in creating much healthier pets, much healthier fan ways that
last longer because a healthy pet is going to live longer,
and a healthy family with a healthy pet is going
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to last longer. So with no further ado, I think
we should bring on the pet health guru.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah, there's lots to talk about. Let's dig in.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Hello Bill, Hello, Hello, Hello, Yes, thank you, thank you,
thank you pipe Man for a great intro as always, Yeah,
and thank you thank you for Nicole for having me on.
I mean hopefully I can, you know, give a little
bit of good wisdom out there and we can help
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some people and some pets and sharing the wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Mm hmmm yeah, because people love their pets right there.
Are are part of our family, you know, and we
we love them and cherish them, and sometimes we treat
them better than ourselves.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
So you know what I say that.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I don't know if I ever told you this story, Bill,
but it does pertain to what you teach people. So
my best friend of life since thirteen, who passed away
in September. Me and him and his girlfriend all lived
together when we were like nineteen years old, and they
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she had a Newfoundland. Interestingly enough for our Canadian here.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Oh yeah, I got a very side Travis topic.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I got a very interesting conversation message from Newfoundland today,
and that conversation is like unrecognizable. You can't understand them.
So how do you understand a Newfoundland dog?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You feed them. So what Tracy used to do is
she would make a gour main meal for this dog.
Like when I say gour main meal, Bill knows what
I'm talking about, because she literally cooked the meal like
she would cook for Mark, her boyfriend, or me who
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was there too. We didn't get the meal. The dog
got got the meal, and the dog was so healthy
because it was eating real food. And that's what Bill
was all about, real food for pets. Am I right? Bill?
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Absolutely? I mean that was our first tagline. Basically he
was real food for real pets. And that's what brought
the whole and you know, the Dolly concept together, as
we had to introduce something that was totally foreign to
most people twenty years ago. It wasn't so four and
fifty years ago because when our grandparents cooked the meal,
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they we didn't feed him leftovers. There was actually a
whole extra meal in that meal for the dog and
the cat. They were a part of the family even then,
and with commercial pet foods, we've kind of gotten away
from that, and of course you know now we're relying
on basically the fast food companies to give and feed
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our pets basically real leftovers. And when I say real leftovers,
a lot of the things they go into commercial pet
foods today are the leftovers out of the supermarkets and
out of the slaughterhouses, a lot of garbage. Well it's
it's even worse than that. I mean, they actually pick
up the dumpsters from behind Albertson's and Publics and Walmart
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and Target, because there's basically multiple dumpsters now, one is
just for food products and those go to a rendering
plant and that's what they put in the pet food.
They cook that actually down with the styrofoam containers, the
cardboard boxes, all the plastics, so we have all that
nice with plasticizers, the BPA, the palley's, all of that
cooked into the ingredients. So we have nothing more than
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sick animals that, unfortunately the veterinarian and the drug companies
make a lot of money on.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, I did not know that. That's a new awareness
for me.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So, yeah, I was wondering, what's what happened between like
twenty years ago and fifty years ago, just this introduction
to these commercial products.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Or yeah, well, kibble, the kibble type food wasn't invented
till nineteen fifty five. That's when it was basically co
invented by at that point in time, Rollston Purina Company
and Quaker Oats, two cereal companies. We checked rice chicks
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and corn checks and of course the whole Quaker Oats
family of cereals to come up with a product that
we could use our waste product on, but also a
convenience food of primarily grain based foods for carnivores. Do
you see anything wrong with that picture?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, a little, it's a little.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah. I mean, if we don't feed them a species
appropriate diet, they're not going to be healthy.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, exactly exactly. It seems like recycling gone wrong.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
It really is. And according to the FDA, if it's food,
it has to be fit for human consumption. Well, most
pet foods are not made with those kinds of ingredients,
which means that they are supposed to be labeled as
feed and not fed to any creature. However, the FDA
looks the other way when it comes to the donations
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that you know, General Foods and Mars Candy and Nestley's
make to their you know, to their institutions. So it's
like we just ignore it. We feel it's okay to
feed our pets garbage, and we promote it on TV
and the internet, and to slick packaging as being complete
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and balanced which is not, and healthy, which it's not.
And we have taken the longevity of our pets. Dogs
should be living over twenty years, cats living over thirty years.
And you know, the medical community now says, if your
dog lives will be eight ten years old, oh my god,
you are so lucky. We have actually created that ill health.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It doesn't feel lucky to me. When you own a
pet and it's only eight years, that doesn't feel lucky.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Well, it's not only the fact that they're only living
to eight or ten years old, but they're living in misery.
I mean, look at the types of problems that our
poor pets have, the scratching and itching, the gastric problems,
you know, things like diabetes, cancer. I see animals now,
puppies at ten months twelve months of age, we cancer already.
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We never had cancer twenty years ago. Thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I was telling me recently. I can't remember if it
was you or somebody else that they're giving dogs prozac.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
No, that was the story I related to us that
somebody UH gave to me when my clients wanted to know.
And it was funny because it was the owner of
a health food store that wanted to know if I
had anything special that I could give.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
To phone the phone, Answer the phone.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I got two phones, and I turned it off on
one and not the other. But anyway, I wanted to know.
And this is a health food in you know, person
and so called healthy, but do we have any kind
of herbs or botanicals that will get her two year
old kitten off prozac for anxiety? I mean, it's insane
what we're giving. I mean, all the drugs out there,
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they don't have enough. The drug companies aren't making enough
money just only it to people. They have cells of
the animals as well.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well. People were going to spend a lot more on
their animals, so that that that drug bill is probably
better than the human drug bill exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And yeah, somewhere it's kind of shifted to like, you know,
taking care your pets is a big pharmaceutical.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
You know, you never roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I tell you right now that I followed what the
pet health guru teaches for many years with my pug, April.
April never went to a vet ever and lived longer
than they say pugs should live.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Wow, that's pretty impressive, just on the on the from
a puppy up till old age on. So what are
some of those tips, What are some of those health
tips maybe for our listeners.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Well, the first thing that we started with and I
actually I do a lot of writing, and I do,
of course my own show, and that's what thing. One
of those things we're talking about is that if you're
going to get a pet, the first thing that you
need to do is look at your budgets. What can
you afford? You know, obviously if you're on a tight budget,
you're not going to buy a Great Dane or you know,
a Newfoundland Okay, that's going to issue out of out
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of house at home. You know you need to you
need the budget that, but budget the food part in
first for a good diet, a good species appropriate diet,
because if the animal's healthy, you don't have to go
to that you don't need all the procedures. You don't
need all the vaccines, you don't need all the preventative
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drugs that are a part of what modern medicine is today.
You know, used to be when when I started in
this business, if you saw a veterinarian, it was because
either you hit a brand new puppy or a kitten
and you just wanted a general physical to mind find
out that they were, you know, in at least pretty
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good shape and accidents and injuries, you know, trauma care
basically emergency trauma and then maybe possibly at the end
of life. While while most animals just kind of passed
away in their sleep, at that point in time, you
got buried in the backyard, you know, with a nice
black and probably a tree on top of them. You know,
the more realize it. But we didn't have this twenty
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four to seven. You know, for every little thing, we
have to call a white coat, tell us what's wrong,
you know, every time they burp, every time they fart,
every time they you know, don't eat. I mean the
number of clients I have that when the dog won't
eat breakfast, you know, for whatever reason, could be an
upset stomach, could be just not hungry, it could be
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that wolves in nature don't eat till the afternoon. They're
sitting in the middle of the floor trying to spoon
feed this animal. And animals eating not because they're hungry,
not because they any nutrition. They're picking up on that
negative energy that the owner is passing along to them,
and you know, it's it becomes an insane thing. You know,
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every session with your animal is a training session. Either
they're training you or you're training them. It's usually the
first one and they're training you.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
If you're around neuroonic people there, dog.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Gets yeah, because like dogs naturally pick up all the
the energy of their owners, and there's a very sematic
relationship there. I'm sure naturally you have to work pet
and owner, you know, I'm sure you can see that
there's some correlation, and pets can pick up their cancers
or their illnesses or their anxieties. And that's also a
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really interesting part, because isn't it. It's fascinating that we
take such good care of our pets, but sometimes not
so much care of ourselves, Like you can't see that
that reflection.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
You know, Well, that's that's how we started working on
a lot more people and lot of pet owners. As
everyone's coming in and it's like, my pet's doing fantastic.
I'm doing like really really terrible. Can you fix me too? Bill?
And it's like, well, I'm not a doctor or so
it's in a word I say, but you know what,
because I'm not a doctor, I don't have those letters
after my name. I can say whatever the hell I want.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You can take it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I mean, yeah, that's like, you know, it's just a
word of mouth. What works, you know, experience is empirical evidence.
I think too, like over the years something working and
seeing it have the results and the benefits is it
speaks for itself. So yeah, But so when we're talking
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about like, yeah, I think that's interesting the healing properties
of pets too. This is the language of healing, and
I believe that pets are really part of that as well.
And I know we're talking about whole food whole natural foods.
It's very hard to find that in human and pet
form these days, so you kind of have to, you know,
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it's smart and wise to educate yourself for a little
bit around that. So, yes, what else can you share
with us? Because I have some questions but.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Okay, no problem, But no I mean you brought up.
You brought the first part of that up is that
the whole foods part or that is an important part.
You know, today in any of any of the branches
of the health industry, there's so much emphasis on supplements. Well,
if you're eating good food, clean food that's raised the
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right way, there's no need for supplements. It's in the diet.
I mean, I can't tell you the number of people
that have switched over to a raw species appropriate diet
and six months into it, it's like, Bill, I'm feeding
him the raw meat. Where are the nutrients? It's like,
how can you ask that question? It's in the food.
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You know, as you're still alive, then obviously they're getting nutrition.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You know, humans like you take supplements. But listen, if
you're eating properly, you don't need to supplement number one. Yeah,
number two, most supplements for humans are way more than
your body should even be consuming. So it's basically a
lot of times you're just wasting a lot that whereas
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eating food, real food, the real food knows how much
of those nutrients you need, and your body knows how
much it needs from the food exactly.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
It's either yeah, well, Yeah, as you said, it's not digestible,
it's not bio available, which is the important part of it.
But when you take a supplement too, you're throwing off
like let's say you're taking a mineral supplement, You're going
to throw off the balance of all the other minerals
in the body. Now you've got a just cascading effect.
But basically, the body is very, very precise in the
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way it handles these things. If it's a natural thing,
a natural food, the bodies like use it or lose
it comes out. If it's a synthetic man made, the
body says, I have no clue what this is, and
then the body has a tendency to start storing that
in fat cells. That's why we see so much obesity.
We're storing toxins then in fat cells. I often use
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the analogy that our body is a lot like women
with shoes. You know, when the closet gets filled with
the shoes, we don't throw any out. We make somebody
build a new closet. Our bodies the same way. We're
not getting rid of those fat cells because we're storing.
We're storing those old shoes. Let's build some more fat cells.
From some more to wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I take offense to that because I have to build
a new closet. Okay, and that's just for.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
The van.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Van.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
We're not telling the other brands of sneakers, okay, exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
There's so many colors and styles and oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Are you trying to offend me?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Bill? Hey, if I haven't done it in the eighteen years,
I guess I never will. Right. But you said you
hand some questions. Let's let's get to some of them.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Sure, but just on the topic I think around like
the whole foods and the supplements, because you know, I
think well, medicine. Food is medicine. Even from a traditional
Chinese medicine perspective. You take, you'll say your body's out.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Of balance or you have something going on.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You'll take you'll eat the right foods, getting the right
nutrients for that condition, you know, through herbs or food,
you know, more specific. Then you stop once your body
has reached a level that's it, you know. But when
we add all the extra supplements, and maybe because of
our diet and not eating whole foods that you know,
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there's a lot of processed stuff or you know, the
hot dogs and the sure, you know, cutting room scraps
that we're eating isn't really providing us with things, so
we have to add ad ad and it just creates
the extra toxicity.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Our body is never really clear.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It doesn't really even know how to recognize to produce
the right hormones or minerals or functionality, so it gets
you know, defunct over time, and and then we have
to rely on this stuff. So I think trusting in
our body is really important because it's like, how could
it be so simple that I just eat like, you know,
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this meat, And I think that it's really important to
eat per your environment. That's a huge basic principle of
Chinese medicine. And you know, so like maybe the Newfoundland
dog doesn't need the same as the chihuahua.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
You know, it's well, you.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Know, in Chinese medicine of course too, you're treating like
with like So if you've get a heart condition, basically
you should be eating heart muscles so you build that
muscle and regenerate the right cell, you know, liver and kidney,
the same thing. I mean, I know it's things that
people don't think about eating so much today, but our
great great grandparents did all the time they knew.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I know, it's amazing short time, we've just lost so
much of that knowledge, you know, it's it's like.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Yeah, why joke around that our great grandmothers had one, one,
one remedy for every disease known mankind, and that was
chicken soup. It was made, it was made with local ingredients,
fresh ingredients that never varied every single time, and it
cured everything and what spices, what herbs to put into
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it for whatever was going on in the area, you know,
at that at that particular time. And interesting thing about
it is when I talk to people about that. Of course,
you know, bone broth is now a you know, a yeah,
a fashion sad, but when it came essentially, yeah, when
it came to the eating the soup, it was always
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better on the third day and people and of course
we would always be getting better at that point in time.
And I said, well, there was a reason for that,
because even if it was refrigerated, that was still fermenting,
so it was actually breaking down and being used much
more readily by the body, and the body just bounced
right back.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And the body doesn't have to use energy to break
it down if it's fermented, it's already easy to digestable.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I have a trivia question for you both. Okay, what
is the secret ingredient to Jewish penicillin?
Speaker 6 (22:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Okay, so since you don't even know what Jewish penicillin is,
that that's what.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
That's a chicken soup, yeah, Jewish Okay, it's a secret
ingredient to the great Jewish chicken soup.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And I use and I used to make my monx
of Ball soup with this secret ingredient that most people
don't know about it.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Well, the secret ingredients varied a lot too, depending on
what part of the world you came from, too, But
you know, a lot of a lot had to do
with the different herbs and botanicals that were put into it,
you know, the fresh garlic, the fresh onions, you know,
and of course a good fresh chicken. Okay, and actually
actually you're looking for now you're getting clothes, what part
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of the chicken chicken feet? Definitely that's it.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
That's all the college. That's where all the collagen is,
and of course we need the collagen.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And that's where all the flavor is too.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And to your point, you know, you you basically are
simmering the chicken feet in the water for like two days,
three days?
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Yeah, yeah. And when we used to pick one out,
what we would we go with my father. We pick
out the oldest, biggest Rhode Island red rooster that we
could find, and that always made the best soup. You know,
as far as a cooking chicken, it would be you know,
it wouldn't be something you want as a roaster because
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it'd be tough as could be. But in the soup
it's all cooked down.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So I'm curious what they do in Louisiana. Will you
think rebel?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
What are some of those remedies? I'm sure there's a
lot of homes.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Sure to do with putting alcohol in the chicken.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
It does not have to do with putting alcohol in
the chicken soup. But depending on what region of Louisiana
you are asking, you might get some voodoo stuff that
you know involves something about chickens.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, see that, and then you end up like you
get better, but then you grow these claws and feathers.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Is that what gives you hair on your chest?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
She has an evil laugh, like she's done that too
a few never.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I don't play with the voodoo, only the hoodoo.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you have to stare rebel about your experiences with
the pet health Guru over all these years?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Oh wow, let's see. I know that people really ought
to hear and listen to what he's telling you. It
took me a while, I ain't gonna lie. It took
me a hot minute to actually hear what he was
telling me. And I finally got some products, and it
makes such a difference. It really and truly does make
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a difference in what you do.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What kind of differences have you seen since using Bill's products?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I have seen a dinner, happier puppy, and my puppy
is not. First of all, he's not a puppy. He's
a dog, but he acts like a puppy.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Forever, a puppy for ever a puppy.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I'm his emotional support human, notecase.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh really?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Oh yeah, how people have emotional support dogs? Yeah yeah,
I'm my dog's emotional support Oh.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I be allowed in Florida now, because they don't really
allow emotional support dogs in Florida anymore.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Well, again, i'm his emotional support human, so he needs.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Me to be there. Somehow, you might get outlawed in Florida.
I think he probably should be. If you're not outlawed already,
I'm bringing it up.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Well, you know, when pipe Man runs for president, you know,
you guys think about that, that's one of his platforms
to outlaw me from Florida.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
So yeah, I will out and I will send Mike
Tyson after you. That's what I'll do.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
He might like that. But anyway, so I other. You know,
my dog is in his twelve year I think, and
he's he since I've had him on the products, he
actually looks for me to put it in his food.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
When he don't have it, he's like, what is this
A little bit stingy here? What were you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
But he looks for it in his product. He's peppy,
he's he's always been what I call the baby, but
he's more he's trying to play fetch with the cat
now so and he just he's slimmed down in wait.
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So it's been it's been a wonderful experience and I'm
hoping to have my puppy forever.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Ye many long years.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
One of the things listening to you though, phills before
you go on, why don't you tell everybody how they
can listen or watch or both your live show and
your podcast.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Well, look, the Pet Health Cafe, of course is on
uh you know, our other one of our other channels here.
They can go to W four h C. They can
go to Pet Healthcafe dot com. We're on Facebook, YouTube, Spotify,
a whole bunch of other platforms. Live shows on Thursday
night at eight o'clock, and of course the replay replays,
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you know, around the clock. So when you which is
which is good because of the amount of content, sometimes
I throw into these things because it's it's it's it's
so much contrary to what we hear from the veterinarians
and the normal pet food people and that sort of
thing that you kind of have to wrap your head
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around it. I try to get into the physiology part
of it, why things are happening, why you need to
do it, Why it's just dumping that pet food out
of the bag is not even close to nutritional and
if you've got a good, healthy animal, you don't need
to buy all these things. I mean, I just did
an article on seizures, and actually I did a show
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on seizures as well. That all the pet owners that
have animals with seizures are looking and asking what neurotoxic
flea product can I use on my dog to prevent fleas? Well,
the only thing that prevent fleas is eliminate the fleas,
I mean, you know, or build a good, healthy immune
system so you don't have that problem. But these, you know,
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these are not preventative medicines. These are basically treating for
things your animal doesn't have. With a neurotoxin, we're killing
the brain cells. We're killing which makes dogs harder, the train,
we're killing, the god the gut bacteria on top of it,
and so you can't digest the food, and then if
you have a bad diet on top of it. You know,
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the products that Rebel is referring to are some of
my herbal blends. I don't even consider them subtlements because
they're not. They're whole foods. But I when I formulated,
I formulated things that are going to detox on a
daily basis. You know, the melt thistle, the dandal lion route,
the Aconesia astrogalds c not the liver, the kidney, the
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lymphatic system. It's I clean those out every day now.
I can get rid of those toxins. If I don't
open up those pathways, I'm just recirculating them, and I
just keep getting sicker. My dog keeps getting sicker and
going downhill and more and more problems. And the goal
is to have a happy animal, a healthy animal because
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they are healthy, and you know, us not worrying about
it every you know, every little time something acts up,
it's like, okay, you're just having an off day or
I'm having an off day, whatever, and you just keep
moving on. You know, we don't have to worry about
medications and you know, giving you know, insulin three times
a day and you know, stuff like that that we
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never had before when we fed real food and like
I said, fifty years ago, that's all they were getting.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Even that project thing blows my mind because now you
said about the story on here, and that means I've
heard it a couple of times, and it's like, really,
why are are we giving animals prose? I don't get
it well, you.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Know, because sometimes I don't know if it's a training
thing or you know, maybe the lately in more recent
years with the pandemic and the animals were so used
to having their owners around all the time and then
suddenly they go out the house and they're barking. And
you know, I know some owners they can't really leave
their pets alone without them having huge anxiety, separation anxiety
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or right not.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Maybe that's something that can run around the house with them,
or put on a TV channel that they can listen
to go to poison the things.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I don't know, but some dogs are really struggling.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
It seems like, you know, all these mental things are
all because caused by mineral deficiencies and hormonal balances anyway,
and that of course is caused by a lot of
these drugs that are being fed all the bad food.
I mean, you know, when you're thinking about even if
if you're even with us, if you're buying supermarket great
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meats for instance, Okay, that was probably raised on GMO
corn and soil, so you got phytoestrogen. You've got the GMOs, uh,
the insecticidal products on the on the BT corn because
it actually makes its own insect aside the synthetics fertilizers
they went into it. Then we sprayed it all with
round up when we harvested it, and then we feed
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it to the cattle and the chickens and everything else.
So that's already in the meat and feeding grain to
ruminants which are your your beef cattle and your dairy cows,
your sheep that when they eat grass, it converts into
omegas threes and nines. That's why our grandparents could eat
beef and be healthy. Today with the grain feeding, it
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turns into omegas six that causes inflammation. And you know,
I mean, I know when that whole thing came through
with the grain fed angus beef, you know, the hottest
thing in the world now because it's the marbling is
all the same, there's no you have to add a
lot of flavors to it in order to make it
taste like anything. And the people, the older people were like,
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I can't eat beef anymore. I can't digest it properly
most because it's not the same beef. It's totally different product.
Because the fat is different. It's not a usable fat.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, everything is different from a from a butcher's meat
to the store products. It's like the taste, the color,
the patterns, the it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
And of course you look at the difference be to
get a stake and a good butcher shop or you know,
from the ranch. And then you look at what's in
the supermarket. The one at the ranch. You know, you
got to kind of a brownish look to it, and
that sort of thing is not that bright red because
it's not sprayed with that red food dye. You know,
people don't realize that, you know, all this stuff is it.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, it's all marketing. It's all marketing, money making machine
based on your health. So that's why you need to
be educated and take you know, a proactive approach to
your your body. You know, know what you're putting in there.
So what should we be feeding our pets? And then
I'll ask you the question. Well, my question is kind
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of about feeding pets at the table because I was
always like, no, I'm not going to feed this little
begging animal at the table. But then some animals are
bred to be pack dogs and feeding them a little
nibble of what you're eating is a sign of them
being part of the community. And so I don't know
if that's a by bread or well, the problem on
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that and what should we be eating or feeding?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Well, here's a good example that I've often used over
the years is that we're feeding. You know, our pets
are just commercial food. And you know in the kitchen
there's a bowl of dog food that sits there all
day long. The dog barely ignoes it as much as possible.
And you walk out to the kitchen and you open
up the refrigerator door, and you grab a bottle of
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water or a glass of wine. The dog ignores you
just touch the package of ground, touch the package of chicken,
and their vel or cheese and their velcro to your leg.
You're fixing dinner. Okay. They're back and forth with you.
It's like they're just praying for something to hit the floor,
you know. And you're yelling at them, you got your food.
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You've got your food. You got your food. Goll it out.
Finish cooking. You go into the dining room. You sit
down at the table and bring up yourself. Okay, there's
a dog you have the table begging okay, and you're
yelling them go it down. You know, you got your
own food everything else. You clean out. The dogs back
and forth to the kitchen with you. Everything's cleaned up,
nothing hit the floor. The dog is really really upset.
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You go in the family room, you turn on the TV,
You sit down on the couch, the dog looks at you,
looks at the kitchen, looks back at you, wanders out
to the kitchen, grabs a mouthful of dry food, brings
it in and drops it at your feet. And then
each one piece of a time like you're making me
eat this garbage when you head what I really need.
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That's where the begging at the table comes from. They're
not getting the nutrition that they need. They're only eating
enough to stay alive. And you know, obviously, as we
as that goes on in time, the immune system is
going to start to diminish. And now you've got oh
my dog, you know, he's throwing up, he's got diarrhea, whatever.
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We're running off to the best's office.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Five thousand dollars later, all the tests came back that
it's perfectly normal. No he's not. You know, he starts
literally starving to death is what it really boils down to.
And you know, because nutrition is in the wrong place.
It's in the you know, in the carbs, which they
can't digest. The pancreas is working overtime making insulin, which
it's not supposed to. So now we've got diabetic dogs
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and cats. You know, it's it's it's species is appropriate,
species specific. You know, certain animals eat certain things.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, so it's like, for example, cats are carnivores more
and so are dogs.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
But the only difference that yeah, dogs, the only difference
a cat is what we consider an no get connor war.
That's all they can really digest. But dogs are opportunistic carnivores,
which means there's a scavenger. They'll eat dry wall, they'll
eat panties, they'll eat shoes, they'll eats anything that bells
themselves out.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Eat their dry dog food.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
That's the only thing. Yeah. And by the way, by
the way, the bugs won't eat to dry food either.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That that what does that tell you? I have a
good story for this too, Like, okay, so if you
compare the humans. My grandchildren are here right now, all right,
the second, But that would be like me sitting them
down and giving them maybe like broccoli. Let's say, and
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I sit down and I eat the chocolate ice cream.
They're gonna they're gonna come over, okay, and I can say,
don't eat your broccoli, to do as I say, not
what I do, And then they do what the grand
children do. They throw them broctly on the floor the
same as the dogs. What they're telling you is you
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eat that craft.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Yeah, it's exactly right, you know, you know you sprinkling.
You know, once you start feeding real foods, and you
know a lot of people will do I need to
transition them. And it's like, no, just go cold turkey.
They'll just eat. And if they have to do some cleansing,
if they have to do some detox, that'll that's just
natural process. But you know, you mix it. They try
to mix it in with their old kibble and they're
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eating around it all the kibble that I literally too,
and like like we said that dogs are carnivores.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
And some of our recipes that we started out with
in the very beginning, everybody was adding vegetables to the
raw meat diets and thought that it was the way
to go, even though the scientific research didn't show it.
And we used to put a pee and carrot mix
in with the raw meat. And I had a client
come to me one day and said, Bill, can you
get can you do mind recipe without that? And I
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said why he says, And he says, because my dog
will pick out every pea and set it next to
the dish, would not eat it. It was funny, and
I says, Okay, I said, I want to write an experiment, though,
I said, next time he does that, leave it and
check it in an hour or two hours whatever he
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comes in the next day he says. He says that
those peace sat there for two hours and then I
went out and they were gone. He says, what's that.
I said, it's a carbohydrate that was dessert. It was
like he didn't want to dessert right away. His body
knew that he had to digest the proteins and the
fats first, which is what we're supposed to be doing too.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah, that's so smart.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I know.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
How come we don't get I mean, maybe in some
level we do have this inherent knowledge of how to
eat best for us. But I mean, that's what I
love about Eastern medicine is that it has carried that
no down like you eat this, this is the steps
and why, and you eat these foods during this time
and avoid those.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
I mean when you when you look at it locally,
you've only got certain foods available at certain times of
the year, and that's when you're going to get the
most nutritional benefit of it, right, Like honey, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Honey is like should be should be eaten eaten locally,
like for your local your local honeybees, because they're going
and getting.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, I know, sorry, I know that was a bad
We're live, that's great, that's fine.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Yeah, no, I mean we use a lot of honey.
You know, honey is one of the best natural antibiotics
you know, on the face of the earth. In fact,
if you get a cut or bad scrape, uh, don't
use peroxide because that actually kills off the living cells
that are trying to replace the dead ones. So damaged ones.
Put raw honey on it, you actually cure and fifty
(41:00):
said let's die because you're feeding it. And you've got
an answer. Antibiotic Minuka honey has been used in burn
centers for like twenty years because it because of it
it's healing power. Of course, they don't call it the
nuka honey. They give it a scientific drug name. And
you know, a one hundred dollars jar of honey, then
the hospital charge you like ten thousand dollars for in treatments.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, yeah, I have a question that's really important, Okay,
because I've heard conflicting parts of this. So we are
on this craze in this country with CBB and cannaboids
and all that stuff. And okay, so now like they
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give all this CBB or even THC and stuff like
that to animals. Yet from what I understand that that
stuff can kill a dog or cat, you know, like
the kids that are getting high. And I think it's
fine to get the family pet high. You know, from
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what I understand, they can kill the pet. So what's
your feelings health grew about CBB products, THHC products, any
kind of can't can't avoid product or pets.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Well, first off, natural, the most of the natural cannabis
plants do not contain high amounts of THHC. It's basically
just a trace amount. Every living warm animal creature literally
makes CBD within their own body, so it is safe.
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But the THHC because we have manipulated, just like we've
manipulated a corn plant and the soybeans and everything else,
that's not what your original product is. The way CBD
works basically, it doesn't cure anything by itself, It doesn't
change anything by itself, but rather sets off. It works
in conjunction with the adreena gland, and it targets where
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the adrenal gland targets trauma by flooding that area with
you know, stem cells and blood cells, nutrition and hormones
and enzymes and all of that to heal. The endocannabinoid
system in a warm blooded animal targets the inflammation, which
is tied to obviously the trauma, but also we have
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inflammation in areas where there not necessarily is a trauma.
So when you're taking it, you know, a lot of
people might take it for pain and you know, I
got shoulder pain, and it works and it gets rid
of maybe fifty sixty percent of the pain, and they
take it again and it's like, oh, it's not working anymore. Well,
the problem is we don't know where that inflammation is.
So if it worked on the shoulder and okay, we've
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got relief going on there, the next dose is not
going to go back to the shoulder. It's going to say, Hey,
you know what, you've got a liver problem going on,
You've got a kidney problem going on. You're adrenal gland
is fatigued. I need to help that out. And those
are the things we don't even think about, because we
don't know when they're they're damaged, that they're stressed out
or you know, that a problem until it gets to
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a point where you know, you really have bad, serious
visible symptoms. So you know, our body is producing it
naturally when we supplement it, of course, you know. And
we're also we also know that supposedly we don't make
as much of this when we get older. It has
nothing to do with age. It has to do with
the number of issues because of the number of toxins
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that we're exposed to that keep wearing down these bodies systems.
And the body is designed to regenerate, and that regenerates
on a regular basis, and we do all we can
do to heal anything is give it to tools that
needs to do its own work. And when we do
that health health comes back, you know, and we do. Yeah,
(44:57):
and of course it starts with food. That's got to
start with food. That's the only thing that that's our
energy source.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
We have we have our primary energy source, which comes
from our constitution, our parents, when we're born and we're
conceived and we come into this world with that initial
source of energy, and then everything after.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
That is God, I got rid of that energy.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Well, I mean that's what makes you you all. You
can supplement it, luckily, right, you can supplement that.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Energy with Tony Robbins and and.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
So so well.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
So speaking of trauma then, because I assume that it
comes with a heavy punch, but so the the canna,
so the cannabis built you were saying that that does
that contribute or help the body function with the delivered.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
It to help? Yes, it's going to help because what
it's going to do is it's going to turn on
those switches on those areas where that inflammation is, where
that damage is. So again, then that's being flooded with
the nutrients, the red blood cells, the white blood cells,
the stem cells, the enzymes and hormones to be able
to create that that regeneration. Not every organ regenerates at
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the same rate. I mean our skin, you know, we
know that we replaced our skin about every four to
six weeks. Our liver and kidney. I mean I heard
I heard one of the top transplant surgeons, uh basically
said we don't have to have transplant surgery anymore for
kidney or liver because if we just cleaned the old
one out and don't put more stuff in. It will
regenerate the you know, brain cells take three to four years.
(46:41):
The most fascinating one is its taste buds. We replace those,
believe it or not, every three days. That's why what
you cooked, what you cooked yesterday that was so delicious
two weeks from now is going to taste like garbage.
And it's because that's tied into our natural being of
what we need. It's a natural craving, it's telling, and
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of course it's alive.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
It's a mucous membrane. It's like gauging our body constantly.
You know, with Chinese medicine, we're always checking the pulse
and the tongue and it's like it's like the daily,
daily photograph.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
And that turns on the nose, It turns on the eyes,
and turns on the brain.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
And our digestive system because from the you know, the
nose out or from the mouth out, it's it's all
one tube. So same with our pets. I know we're cut,
we're coming close to the end of the show, but yeah,
two minutes, two minutes to midnight, we've got.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
So we can.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
We can find you on the Pet Health Cafe or
at the pet Health Cafe dot com. Also on w
fur HC is that right at the channel, also the
Talkboard Media and Talkboard TV.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
And that's all of the.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
Yes, my Palio pet Is is our retail store. I
walked out of there quite a bit. I do nutritional counseling.
I do, and when I do that, I'm not just
telling you what. I'm not putting together a diet plan
for you. I'm basically going to tell you how the
body works and how it needs, how it needs to
be fed, and then it's up to you. You're the
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one that gives, you know, the the tools that it
needs to heal. And you know the same applies to
what pets as it does to ourselves. And if we
take care of both, we're all going to be happy, this.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Good life living right there.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yes, enjoy all those snuggles and cuddles with your furry
friends and human friends alike.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, then it's not afriend.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
There you go, Oh, I've never touched one of those.
That would be like still part of that. It's a
little creepy too.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Would it be like would it would you be able
to pet it? Or would it stop? Like did you
mid stop, mid mid stroke.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
No, it really doesn't. It's that's that big a difference.
I mean, thinking of people that have lizards and snakes.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
My sister has a bearded dragon and it eats live worms,
you know, and the occasional kale.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
Sometimes he doesn't like sleepy greens yep, but he does
love the worms.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
Oh, yes, I was pet.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I want a pet platypus. And on that note we
have at the endless show.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
That's there you go, all right, we're having me Bill.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, thanks Dean Pipeman. Thanks for joining us again our listeners.
Will see you next week Tuesday, two pm Eastern Time
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