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Our guest, Anthony Verzi from Infinite Light Wizardry, enlightens us on the benefits of fasting and breathwork, highlighting their role in navigating life's challenges with emotional intelligence.
Let's journey towards greater clarity, emotional wisdom, and a deeper connection to ourselves and others.
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W four WN Radio. Are youready to take a journey? Let's connect
with the healers of the world.It's that time. It's time for the
Language of Healing on W four WNRadio and Talk for TV. Now here's
your host, doctor Nicole Fort.Hello everybody, and welcome to another great
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episode of the Language of Healing.I'm your host, Nicole, and here's
the amazing co host of Pipe mana. Hello, and we're just coming
back after a great weekend at Welcometo Rockville, which is a big music
festival. Kind of new to me, you know, being it being such
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a big venue. There were alot of people there and a lot of
bands, and it was really busy, and I'm feeling a little very excited
and a little bit tired. AndI have a surprise for my show tomorrow
that that even Rebel doesn't know aboutyet, having to do with Welcome to
Rockville. You got a hint forus? Or no, no, no,
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he'll have to tune in. Tunein tomorrow. Level might figure it
out, you know, so nono hints? Mm hmm, okay,
Well tune in tomorrow The Pipe MainThe Adventures of Pipe Man on W four
See Why at one pm Eastern,right Wednesdays. That's right, that's right,
that's right. But it's all aboutit's all about you, and because
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we need some healing after Welcome toRockville. I know, I know this
is my circus now, right,you know? Yes, well, I
mean you know I caught your showlast week actually around music as therapy and
as medicine, and you know thatthis month is around like there's a lot
of talk around the mental health awarenessand I noticed that theme in the concert
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and the festival, and a lotof artists would take a moment to a
you know, thank thank their fans, you know, reach out and say
if anyone's you know, in arough place, that you know, I've
been there too, and and wewere talking about this last time. That
music is you know, it's likesoul medicine. It comes from the soul
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and the lyrics and the and therips and the beats and the dancing and
that I love all about it.So it's very healing experience. Now and
now there's that was like the loud, big bang boom and the antidote or
the balance and of that is maybesome quiet resting time, which I'm definitely
feeling the need to and and I'mstill in Florida. Get beautiful ocean,
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and the ocean heals everything. Ibelieve that unless you get bit by a
shark, then maybe not. It'sthe circle of life. I guess It's
never happened to me though, butyou know I was. I brought it
up because I was talking to peopleabout that Welcome to Rockville and like there's
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people that won't go into water becauseof the marine life and the fear of
it. And my viewpoint is it'stheir home, it's my backyard. I
respect that and them and they're reallynot. You know, it's just like
land. You have animals too.Let's all just coexist and you don't bother
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them, they don't bother you,and we all just co exist. Yeah,
like the somatic relationships, right,absolutely, Yeah, we need each
other, one in each other,and we have to coexist. That's it.
Know, there's a lot of differentviewpoints out there. There's a lot
of different perspectives. There's a lotof different ways that people live their lives,
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the like you know when we talkabout values and even things for self
care or healing healing has many differentviews and perspectives. And today's guest actually
is really is going to be sogreat for this conversation for many reasons.
Also knows Florida, so we cantalk a little bit about the sharks and
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all that stuff too. The lizards. I've seen some lizards here. What
else. I mean, it's kindof been so Rockville was situated in the
Daytona like the speedway, the race, the NASCAR racetrack, so that's it's
concrete, you know, there wasn'tI didn't feel like I got exposed to
much of the surroundings, although therewere plenty of creatures there. Yeah,
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that's that's correct. Plenty of creaturesand beasts sent beautiful people. I mean,
lots of great friends, and Ithink Rebel needs some healing too.
Yeah, what's going on Rebel?I, Well, we have no idea
why he says that. He justlikes to do that to me offhand.
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You know, I have no ideawhy do I need healing? Pipe main
well, because everybody needs healing ofsome sort. Healing doesn't necessarily mean something
has to be wrong. It justmeans that you continue being in a positive
state and a high vibe and youknow, living in high energy instead of
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low energy. And sometimes healing couldbe as simple as just having a better
day, even if you're having agood day, you know, like it
doesn't People seem to think healing needsto mean that there's something wrong. No,
I think healing is something you doevery single day that you're on this
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earth here because we're constantly growing,evolving, and that to me, that
is healing. I would agree withthat. Healing is the act of It's
like a positive thing. Even ifyou have illness, it's your body showing
you like this is the next step. This is that is the healing process.
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Now, Revel does need actual healing, but yeah, you know that
being said, maybe she needs togo go to the next you know pipe
Man's Adventure tour music festival she's been. She she's not had great experiences with
the pipe Man in that realm ohall right, yeah, yeah, she
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needs a lot of healing when shegoes to one of those with me.
Okay, was it a big one? I mean four days is a long
time. Well no, one ofthem was at a little venue, but
yes she does. She has gonein the past the ladder than life and
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uh you know, and then shegets a really good view with her media
passed from the top of the hillof the parking outside the venue. That
was the most wonderful place to beto listen to that see. And I
think that's part of healing too.Like the people at the festival that stay
outside the festival and don't enter thefestival. There are people that go to
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festivals and they just hang out andparty in the parking lot, like I
don't get I don't get that myself, but he'll get parties. But we
got a very important type that Rebelneeds to pay close attention to today,
and so do all you listeners andviewers. So let it roll, nicolet
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let's bring them on. Hey arevery special. Guess I'm very excited to
have them with us today. It'sAnthony Erzi, who's a long time colleague,
friend, mutual connection with we sharea beautifully you know, wonderful mentor
that has passed. And yeah,so it's really nice to connect with Anthony.
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Is he with us? Yeah,and let's bring it on before he
starts talking. By the way,while don't you mentioned a little bit about
what's going on in reference to thatmentor maybe now would be a good time
to make some announcements about that.Well, yes, there's some very exciting
developments actually really very recent developments aroundthe work emotional Wisdom training and our mutual
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mentor, Kate Michaels, that wehave an opportunity to bring it back to
life here on W four cey Wfour w N. I'm not sure it's
kind of a it's an idea thatwe're playing with and so, but Kate
Michaels is a beautiful spirit, beautifulsoul. I know that she's impacted all
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of our lives that are here onthis channel right now, even Rebel.
Yeah, everybody, everybody here hasbeen impacted by this, this wonderful woman,
and it's an honor to carry onher work or even be associated with
with her and have learnt from her. She she had many great mentors and
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masters, and in the realm ofneural linguistic programming, I think he might
be able to share a little bittoo. More about around that the Milton
Eric said approach and yeah, whydon't you go go ahead just share obviously.
I mean, I don't think Ineed to reiterate how much Kate truly
impacted all of us, Like andjust having those deep conversations with her was
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just so eye opening and so easy. She made it so easy with the
coaching in itself, and it's almostlike the work was being done and we
didn't even know it, and it'slike later it would come out and we
can actually use it. And itwas just a magnificent process, the whole
emotional wisdom aka coaching in general.Yeah, because you know what I would
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call Kate was I was in likedesperado mode. Okay, that's what I
call It's like I have an urgentproblem, like I need healing now.
I need to resolve this issue nowor else I'm going to drive myself crazy.
I'm going to say something stupid,you know, like this is kind
of my you know, my loopor my spin, and she would be
so good at telling me just stop, like she had no problem, just
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stop, you know, and thenso that you know in That's a good
example of what healing is is whenyou're in it and you're moving through it,
and then you have someone to bea bit of a mirror or you
know, you get it reflected abit, and then you can retrain your
pattern. It's because we're likely doingthis over and over and over again,
you know, just sort of haveit. So, Yeah, conversations with
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Kate weren't always easy, that's forsure. You're not going there because it's
like my life is running amazing andI feel so good about myself and like
things are smooth. Although that wasalso a great time to coach with her
because that's when you can really likeso that's again, you don't have to
be sick to be healing. Canbe you can be healing as you're growing
and expanding and learning it. That'sexactly. That's more like prevention and the
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real golden ticket. Yeah, oneof the things I really loved about Kate
is that no matter how like traumaticyour experience was, you could tell her
about it and she could laugh atit, which was so cool, Like
she could actually laugh and then bringyou into laughing at it, so you
could actually take a more macro viewof it and step outside of it,
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be more dissocio, dissociate, disotiate. I'm sorry, I can't hear from
the actual event. So that wasI mean. I used to tell her
some deep things and she'd laugh atit, and I would be like,
why is she laughing? And Igot it. I slowly got it.
I'm like, oh wow, okay, Yeah, the more re'pliable with it,
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the more flexible it is, themore we can flow with it.
And she was She's somebody that reallyshowed me that beautiful process, and a
lot of that was about taking astep back from it, disassociating from it,
and seeing it from a non agendaplace, which is so so crucial.
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Yeah, I love that analogy shewould use around being associated in and
dissociated out. It's like if you'rethere's a difference between riding the roller being
on the roller coaster and feeling thatin like going through the motions versus stepping
back and seeing the whole track,you know, So there's not much there's
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two those two states are really usefulwhen we're stuck in spinning. And so,
yeah, Anthony, I know,I really admire your work that you're
doing, and I love your nameInfinite Light Wizardry. Oh. I just
think it's like, so, youknow, there's a mystery in words and
our thoughts and our beliefs. Yes, and there's like a the curiosity is
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a spark, you know, Sowhy don't you tell us a little bit
about how you that I really thinkthat you're doing a wizard kind of perspective.
In fact, Kate used to talkabout wizard you know, wizard concepts
a lot, and she would beactually kind of touted as a wizard.
And I also, you know,never realized that while we were going through
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that process, and then later on, you know, I would take other
people through these processes just in mydaily works, you know, dealing with
people or dealing with friends, andthey would say something like you're a wizard.
You know. That's so that thatjust came up recently kind of with
that that name change, and I'mlike, oh, yeah, that makes
sense, and I can resonate withthat and the whole process of making not
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necessarily manipulating light, but working lightto your favor, working this situation to
your favor, molding it like aclay, being able to laugh at it
so you can make it flexible.That's all part of the wizardry journey and
wizardry mastering. Mm hmmm, yeah, because we can get so fixated on
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something, you know, and toopen it up a little bit and to
add a little like sparkle, youknow, a little magic. I don't
want to say that word lightly either, but it's like it's and she talked
a lot about miracles, you know, and that's how you make a miracle
happen is you give it, youknow, space and to evolve and be
curious around it. Yeah. Sothat's there's some exciting news. We'll be
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talking much more about that. Buttoday's conversation around you know, navigating like
you know, challenges with emotional wisdom. That was her entire you know,
like the foundation of emotional wisdom trainingbecause it it's not like life is going
to happen anyway, and what reallymatters is how you respond versus react to
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what is showing up in your life. And that's where you, like you
said, Anthony, you can takeadvantage of these moments more readily and propel
yourself into more of a life thatyou want to be living. Like you
know you're you're the traveling free spirit. I really dig that part of you
and think that's why we reconnect tolike minded adventurers all of us here.
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Yeah, definitely, and I knownow like more than ever it kind of
I don't know how this is foryou guys, but what I experience is
that the more I try to controlthings, the more I just like the
house just crumbles. Absolutely a certainaspect of getting to where you just say,
oh you know what, just gowith it. Whatever's going to happen
is going to happen. You gotto laugh at it. This is it
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and all it. I always saythat you can't control any of the situation
surrounding to other people, any variable. All you can do is control your
attitude towards it. Yes, Ilike that. I like that. You
know there's a motivational speaker. He'sactually Tony Robbins talks about him in his
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seminars. His name is W Mitchell, and everybody want to look him up
because what amazing story he has.He's almost died twice, Ninety percent of
his body's burned quadriplegic and yet oneof the most positive empowering people there is.
And one of his slogans is it'snot what happens to you, it's
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what you do with it. Mmpositively positively, I mean, and that's
the big thing too about the wholeneural neuro linguistic process and and you know,
bringing in Milt ericson coaching to it. We get to make the meaning,
I mean, when it comes downto it, we get to make
the meaning of what does this mean? You know it always would ask that
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question, what does that mean toyou? What does this word mean to
you? And then yeah, likeand it's so yeah, it's so important.
I mean, that's everything. That'slike the context because you know,
you could be listening to somebody andmaybe that's where a lot of miscommunication comes
from, because depending on where youwere brought up or what influences you had
around you, like it matters howyou form. You have to you have
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to really kind of go into yourmind while you're thinking things. Like just
when we when we were prepping forthe show today, Uh, you know,
I asked you a question and hesaid, I don't know, And
my answer was a tony Robbins NLPanswer, and it was, well,
if you did know, what wouldit be? And people may think that's
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kind of silly, but that doescause your brain to like trigger to actually
be able to know, because thenyou kind of think of it from a
different aspect. Yeah, because we'retrying to answer from our Like I think
Kate always talked about this the youknow you well it's come it's knowledge that
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you ask people something three times toreally get the answer right, because the
first time, it's like, youknow, it goes into the conscious round
like oh, what should I besaying? And then like the unconscious,
Oh what do they want me tosay? Or what do I would do?
I think that they think that Iwant to be saying, and then
and then it gets to the heartor to the core of it. So
yeah, the answer Kate would alwaysget me on that too. I don't
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know, you do know, right, because we do we do know.
We we may just not want admituteto ourself or or to somebody else,
but we do know, you know, And we may not even consciously know
though. So there's the other sideof it. So you got to dig
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deep because there could be something deepin there that is why you're saying you
don't know because you don't want toexpose what's dug down deep. Yeah,
then you have to confront it.Yeah, and then once you confront it,
you kind of have to change.You have to like check out,
check out, consciously check out orchange. And that's a you know,
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a decision or choice that a lotof us. You know, some things
aren't easy, so it's easy tojust sweep it under the right. I
say most things aren't easy, they'resimple, not easy, and people confuse
those two words. You can havea simple formula for something or simple answer,
but it doesn't mean it's the easyanswer. It doesn't mean it's the
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easy way, the easy formula,you know. I mean, even as
an example in school, let's sayyou take a statistics class. There could
be some simple question, but youhave to do five pages of work to
get to the answer, and it'snot very easy. Or sometimes you just
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have to go to a simple answer, like you'll love this. One of
the best things I ever experienced incollege was a philosophy class and the final
exam, you have three hours towrite a paper and the question the essay
question was why, And there wasone girl that walked out of a class
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in like ten seconds and we're alllooking like, what the hell is she
doing? She got the best gradein the class. And I'm bringing this
up because we do that to ourselvestoo. Sometimes we overcomplicate things, overwhelm
things, ourselfs and so she didn'tdo that. Her answer was why not?
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Yeah? I like that. Ilike that. I like the process
too, of like you were saying, Nicole on the asking multiple times,
because this is obvious in everybody's dailyoccurrence is ask a person that you're just
talking to, you know, maybewalking on the street, how they're doing.
They're going to give you the mostsurface answer that you can think of.
Right, I'm doing good, I'mdoing good, we're all doing good.
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You take it to the next levelwhat makes it so good? Then
you're diving in a little further.Then you take it a little further,
you're diving even deeper, and thenyou get to some real stuff. And
that's where magic happens. Absolutely.And I think that also has to do
with when you're asking the question morethan once. It's it's like we were
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talking about before, it's sometimes whenyou ask the question in a different way,
people come up with a different answer, or maybe their mood changes or
maybe whatever it is, there couldbe some kind of energy there, or
there could be multitude of things,but every time you ask them it causes
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them to think more, which maygravitate to grabbing another answer. Definitely,
definitely, well where we have somany layers, you know, and there's
a lot of you know, evenif you think about all the masks we
put on and how we can justhabituate, it's like that's you know,
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that's just what I do. Andyou don't even realize it then, because
when you do something enough times,it becomes like unconsciously competent, like you're
not even thinking about it. You'redoing it so automatically. It's like a
very well, deeply entrenched pathway thatyou are choosing every time. So,
you know, we talk in NLP, and you know, when we're retraining,
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like the neural pathways, you haveto forge a new pathway. So
it's like you're being a pioneer ofyourself. And I love that as we're
all adventurers here. You know,the quest inside is quite a journey and
a worthwhile venture, I believe.And yeah, language, the language that
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we use is really you know,beneficial and supportive in that that quest a
question quest. I love that too, you know, and building up those
layers. I mean you have layeron top of layer on top of layer.
It takes somebody who's going to rodonto those layers and keep asking those
questions and being in acceptance. That'skind of the the antithesis of a coach.
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Yeah, So when you're working withpeople, Anthony, like what take
us through some of your processes,like what have you? What's what?
What happens when we step into therealm of the infinite light wizardry? Well,
a couple of things happen. Imean, first of all, this
is not for the faint to heartlearning these things. You are really diving
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into somebody's subconscious. And when yougo into somebody subconscious, it becomes personable.
So there's certain things that you haveto loop and tie closed. So
if you're going into somebody subconscious,you're in a responsible position because you're kind
of getting this VIP access right now. You can work. In fact,
in my own life, I dothis kind of habitually, So I got
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to be careful sometimes because sometimes I'llmeet somebody within five minutes they're telling me
some really crucial information that later mightbecome a position of judgment towards me because
I opened up that box. Soit is very very powerful stuff. And
really having the responsibility of knowing thatand the information behind it and making sure
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that you loop it and and youkeep it, you know, keep it,
I guess responsible would be would bethe best way to put it,
but in a healing fashion and obviouslygiving solutions and you know, uh,
going deeper in a good way.What do you mean by loop it?
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So that so let's just take,for example, say we open up a
belief that somebody has. If wejust go, okay, somebody's you know,
they got this negative pattern in theirlife that they want to they want
to quit. Your brain is makingthese loops, it's going through these patterns,
and it's basically playing out the samethought or the pattern over and over
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and over again. When you diveinto that, you open up that,
You basically open up that loop,and we got to put something else in
or go in a different direction.So for instance, taking something like the
uh, the repeat and complete process, which is something Kate was really big
on. That's opening up that loopand in order to close that loop,
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you have to finish, finalize thatsentence. So for example, I don't
want to do this because I feellazy. Okay, Well, that's looping
all the all the time for somebodywho might be you know, tend to
be lazy, or somebody that mightbe apathetic. That's looping and going on
all the time under the surface.So we open that up. Now,
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we got to finish it, right, So you take the client through that
process. I feel lazy because Iget them to finish that process because maybe
because I am not doing enough.I am not doing enough because I finishing
that process is actually creating a solutionand actually creating a way out of the
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actual pattern. Yeah, and justthink on that. That solutions focused.
You know that it's not like we'renot revisiting everything rehashing it. It's like
we're finding a new way. WhatI love about what you were saying is
how it changes the focus from theproblem to the solution. Definitely. I
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love how So Okay, in mymind, solution is like spelt like s
O U L you know, soulsolution And this just reds what There's a
show we've had on the network.It's on hiatus now that that's the name
of the show sol Solutions. Imean, it's just beautiful. And I'm
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thinking of something that really inspires meis the Hawaiian practice of and that stems
from well, there's like a itmeans to make things rightly right, so
if there's any kind of and itused to be a community practice. So
if there was one problem with betweenmembers or between one it was, it
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was the whole community would come togetherand they would sit with that until it
was made rightly right, you know. And it's like, so it was
coming with solutions from like the soul, so it didn't have to have developed
layers upon layers, and you know, and we get so entrenched in like
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the web of that we build aroundit. Like it's yeah, so the
repeat and complete, it's like it'slike a cleansing. It's like cleaning clean,
clean, clean, clean clean,back back back. Where does that
like, oh, where did thatcome from? Isn't that interesting? When
did I start believing that there's alot of things to sweep up and out?
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And I love that you mentioned two. That's so funny. I was
going to say something about that before. That's such a beautiful process and that's
something that everyone can do and everyonehas access to. Did you want to
say? You want to say?Go ahead? The whole of prayer is
actually it's an old Hawaiian prayer andit was actually used to basically heal an
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entire group of people without even beingin their presence, just by looking at
their their you know, their file. The story behind is pretty unique,
but it's basically four simple words forsimple phrases I'm sorry, please forgive me,
I love you, and I thankyou. So four simple phrases are
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actually deeply healing in those old traumaticpatterns that are are in our cellular nature.
Debris wise, Yeah, and Iimagine, you know, just like
erasing it. It's like that's alsopart of it. It's like clean,
clean, clean, always, likeevery day clean the palate, you know,
so it's like the energies can goand it can rest and you can
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be fresh well. Like even agood example of that is if you go
to a fine restaurant, what dothey do in between each course? They
bring something out to clean your palate, because otherwise you can't fully experience the
next course and you won't have thefull feeling taste and just you know,
feels everything that goes along with it, and I think that holds true for
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everything in life. Yeah, whois a shot of ginger for the next
round? And there you go someof the sniff of coffee beans? Is
that the palate? Is that apalate cleanser too? Or should be?
If it's not, it definitely shouldbe. I like when you go to
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an Asian restaurant and they give youa Surebert likes dessert between every course.
I'm there, man, I don'teven need the courses, just keep bringing
the dessert. Okay, where isthat? I've never been to that such,
I've never seen such a thing.Yeah, if you go to like
a high line like Asian restaurant likein New York, that's what they do.
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You know when they do that alot in Europe too. Okay,
see, okay, those are twoplaces I have not really been and traveled
much too yet, so I'm aadding that on the list. There you
go, fine dining in New Yorkand Europe there it is good stuff,
big dreams. Yeah, let's makeit happen. Okay. Yeah, speaking
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of traveling, where's the next placethat you're going? Nicool? Okay,
Well you know what it's it's itis an adventure. It's it's close,
it's pretty local to me. I'mgoing to the big bad city of Edmonton,
Alberta Lake Cup or the Stanley UpFINALI yeah, actually this will be
(32:00):
Yeah, maybe I'll you know,get in on that. I don't know,
no, but I'm from Calgary,so you know there's like a naturally
occurring rivalry between the two, youknow. Yeah, so you have to
go watch the Oilers lose the StanleyCup. But then, yeah, you
do have to band together because ifthey lose or lose into an American team.
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So it's kind of like I'm aDevils fan. The Rangers in are
in the playoffs. They're my rivalryduring the season, but I'll have to
root for them now because they're mightthey're the only representation. Yeah, I
know, same, It's like yougot to keep it like I can.
I can support Alberta too. That'sfine. So tell us more about what
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you're going to do in Edbington.That's better than the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Uh, you know. Actually,speaking of amazing mentors who've inspired us to
shift and change and grow, Iam going to be reconnecting with one of
my mentors from almost twenty years agowho taught me, Yeah, some some
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amazing body work. They're like osteopathictechniques as cranio, sacral and visceral manipulation.
It's actually what got me into Chinesemedicine. And I haven't seen this
teacher. I've been keeping an eyeon her classes over the years, and
it's just never lined up. Andshe's going to be close to me,
and so I'm right away like I'mgoing to be there. So I'm taking
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three days of classes there and thenI'm doing a big Chinese medicine conference,
and so it's going to be youknow, what's that word, intellectual or
cerebral kind of course, but alsoyou know, it's like you blend in
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the theory with the practice, andI am a total nerd for that.
I love learning. I love andthis very esoteric stuff. You know,
Anthony, you'll really dig that too, because when we're when we're working with
the body, it's like you're feelingon a very subtle level, You're you're
being invited into the body like it'sa it's a place of honor to be
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working on somebody like that, becauseyou're unraveling some really deep stuff and allowing
it to, yeah, like unravelso they can find movement. Like we
were talking about this Anthony, it'slike move your body in ways that you
normally wouldn't do, things that younormally wouldn't stretch yourself, you know.
It's like that's that's the way youkeep young and youthful and maintain your vitality,
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your zest for life. Yes,and the fact that we're electromagnetic creatures
that have electromagnetic fields, and wehave iron in our blood that's actually circulating
for that, I think the Chinesemedicine. How you were saying that,
and that's something I heard you sayyesterday. We were talking about each body
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part being connected to certain too well, I mean as far as the Meridians
and I don't know too much aboutit, but just being connected emotionally,
I think that's pretty remarkable. Well, that is what got me into Chinese
medicine. I saw this chart thatthis this teacher had brought in and it
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was every organ of the body,and it had every organ had an associated
color, season, taste, smell, and emotion. And I honestly was
like, I'm someone who I thoughtthat I had zero emotions, and I
felt pretty good about that about myself. It's like, I never cry,
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I don't care. I just Ialso wasn't like no, it was a
you know, little emo teager likeanyone else. Right, But I thought
that I was doing pretty good untilI realized no, I got a lot
of stored stuff in there, andso I found it fascinating that our organs
could actually hold on to emotions.And then it was like, oh,
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once I opened up that flog gate, I think I'm still on that journey.
Sounds yeah, okay, but it'sa beautiful journey. I think it's
a lifelong you know, this iswhat I think the fun of life is.
It's like a practice, you know, because every day, yeah,
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right, if we need anything morenowadays is to get more in touch with
our emotions really truly. I meanthere's so much emotionless you know, habits
going on out there in the collective, which is is something that definitely needs
to be addressed. I think.I think emotion is necessary to create the
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passion to be able to experience anythingyou want out of life. Yeah.
I like that, Dane. Ilike that. Yeah, because it's like
the root, you know, theroots of emotion or what that means if
you break it down a goth,a goth person, that's that's email.
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Yeah, this black lipstick mandatory.And I like that you said that too,
Dean, because the one of themost powerful emotions is anger, and
yeah, that's an emotion that weare like like automatically suppressed rather than actually,
you know, letting loosen a creativefashion that's healthy. Well, it's
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interesting you should say that, becausefunny enough, like and a lot of
people don't realize this. Okay,so we just came from Welcome to Rockville
and that welcome to rock Fielder's mashpits, and most people don't understand the concept
of a mosh pit and gain inthere and like bumping each other around and
all this. But really what itis is exactly what you said. It's
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an outlet for your anger or whatever'sbothering you that doesn't hurt anybody, and
where other people or feeling that sameanger or same emotions and they're able to
let it loose. And I mean, to be perfectly blunt. One of
the things I said in an interviewto a band is man when I was
younger, going in the mosh pit, save somebody's face, because if it
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weren't for that mash pit, I'dbe punching a bunch of people in the
face, you know. But that'swhat it's about. It's like, get
those emotions out there, you know, instead of containing them, because when
you contain them, they're gonna explode. And that's why you have situations like
we do in this world, youknow that go negative or go really bad,
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or where people like snap. Youknow, you snap because of that.
You snap because you're containing everything andyour body can't and your mind can't
hold it in anymore, and that'swhat causes you snap. But if you
have a release and a way toget it out, then you never snap
because you're constantly healing yourself truly,and you actually add to the world because
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you're able to outlet it in acreative way that actually adds value to the
world rather than just suppressing it andjust say pile up, pile up,
and it becomes chronic and then younext thing, you know, you're emotionless.
Yeah, and we talked about toowith the music artists, because I
talked about on my show last weekabout music and how it's the best therapy
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and it goes right along with whatwe're saying, because these musical artists writing
their songs are doing exactly what you'reexplaining, and writing those songs is their
release and their way of getting everythingthat's bothering them inside outside and in a
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creative way, in a positive waythat actually helps other people to heal.
So something that could have been anegative, you know, is actually a
positive that can make positive change throughoutthe world with all people. Heck,
yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah. I think at this time
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we should have Anthony, you know, shout out any of his socials,
websites or anything that where they canconnect with him and check out what he
does. So I'm on TikTok,I'm on YouTube, I'm on Instagram.
Those are my big three platforms thatI post on pretty regularly every day.
(40:28):
At Infinite Light Wizardry. At InfiniteLight Wizardry, that's where you can find
me. And what would you saythe listeners and the viewers would why should
they visit your socials? Why shouldthey visit everything you have? What will
they get from it? In youknow, the the nutshell version, because
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everybody's going to be different, soyou can't say what everybody's going to get
from it. M HM. Youknow, this is kind of controversial for
me to say this, but maybea triggering in emotions because sometimes that's what
it takes in order to get peopleto take the next step. So literally,
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I do make some content that actuallymight trigger some people's emotions, and
I kind of do that on purpose, Yeah, because sometimes that's what it
takes. So I think a lotof times it takes that, right,
because sometimes you just need that extremereaction that triggers something in your head to
make positive change. Stimulation definitely.Yeah. I come from a more traumatic
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background where we kind of were steeredtowards not touching the trauma and you know,
just walking on eggshells and walking,you know, everybody to get along,
to get along, but you know, not having that stimulus there when
it's appropriate, that's missing out andlosing for everybody. Yes, there are
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certain people not getting information that theyneed by suppressing that that feeling or emotion.
Well, think about relationships too,So how many times what is the
story when people end up getting divorce? There were things building up for years
and years, but nobody ever saidanything. They just kind of went through
the motions, kept it locked in, and in one day that explosion of
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all, all of that is whatit creates the divorce definitely, yeah,
and then the mess is just tootoo much to clean up. You know,
if you're tidy every day, youknow, if you do the make
things rightly right on a consistent basis, you know, well then a you
would know if you're with the rightperson or not with the relationship example,
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and or you could you know,work together, work and grow together.
Yeah. I wanted to add onething too. With emotion, you know,
if you break it down, it'slike just the energy in motion.
And from a Taoist perspective or theChinese medicine or Eastern medicine, we use
the five element theory and so butelement is just a loose word, like
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it's actually phases or stages. Sowe should be we're always moving through the
phases. We shouldn't be stuck inany one phase. And you're right,
it's like anger is one of themost to be respected emotions because it has
true power to recreate. It's likethe destroyer that recreates and then it resets
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boundaries, like that's where you canreally find your new boundaries. And it's
associated with the element of wood.So when you talk about snapping. You
know, it's like being so rigidthat you can't withstand the wind or that
elemental force that comes and like reallystresses you and then you snap. It's
best to be flexible and able towithstand, you know, meet what life's
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life brings you. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, going back to
what you were saying about, youknow, tidying up a little bit all
the time. Best thing I Youknow that I was taught when I was
a kid, Like my grandfather wasa baker, and so my father would
teach, like, when you cookor you bake, clean as you go,
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so by time you're done, there'snothing in the sink. And think
about that, because how many timesdo people do like these big holiday dinners
or they invite people over and theyjust leave everything in there and they just
pile it up in the sink,and then when everybody leaves, they never
want to clean up because you're lookingat this big pilots in the sink and
(44:43):
it becomes so overwhelming. It seemslike such a big job opposed to I'm
always the type that, you know, if I'm going to cook, if
I'm going to bake, I doit as I go and literally, the
only thing I have to clean whenI'm done is the plate I had to
eat on. Yeah, it's sucha such a great feeling. I think
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your grandfather went to the same schoolas my grandma because she taught me that
rule too. Up as you goalong, there's nothing left you can just
say you both have Italian. Youguys both have Italian roots. Hey,
there you go to the Italian.It must be anything anything else, Anthony.
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I mean, this has been sucha great well. I mean,
you're so wise here. The bigthing about I appreciate that, so or
you. I appreciate that. Thebig thing to me about crucial conversations,
like having those conversations is able toyou know, relieve things, relief stress,
and touch on things that are reallyimportant that need to be touched on.
(45:51):
So rather than just suppressing it.And it's not good for anyone when
anything's suppressed. I mean, itmight be good for somebody as far as
them remaining silence, but it doesn'tdo any any good. Yeah, maybe
there's an appropriate time to have to, you know, to have it be
outletted. But yeah, repressed anger, it can it does turn into depression
(46:15):
as well. So there's something alittle bit there to be, you know,
to explore and and just on thatnote, if anyone's listening that you
know, feels like they've got thebiggest pile of dishes on their counter and
they can't they don't even know whereto start, or they don't know how
to clean up, you know,just it is possible to have a sparkly
(46:36):
clean countertop, you know, justdo the work, reach out and you
know, reach out to you know, any one of us can support you
through that in our work and andor someone that you know, Yeah,
there you go. Yeah, speakof reaching out, Nicole. Why'n't you
tell everybody how they can reach outto you when they can watch the show
(46:59):
every week? CA can catch thepodcast all that good stuff, right,
thanks Dean the co host Extort andAir here. Hey. You can find
us live on W four w Ndot com every Tuesday at two pm Eastern.
You can catch the replays on anypodcast streaming platform that you that you
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use on the YouTube. You canfind me on Instagram and Facebook at the
Language of Healing and Tuesdays two pmlive, Bring us, you know,
bring us some questions. Pop inthe chat, say hello if you have
any special requests. Or something thatyou're interested in hearing about. I would
love to hear that and bring thatto the table. Yeah, thank you
(47:47):
for the wonderful co hosts Dean andour amazing guest Anthony. Was so wonderful
to have you. Thank you,Thank you Dean, Thank you Nicole.
Thank you for having such an awesomeplatform. I loved a man. I
love the foundational place to share allthis information. That's amazing. Yeah,
thank you for helping all the peoplethat you do. Because in the world
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we're living right now that has suchlow energy, we need more people like
you so that we can create positivechange throughout the world and we can all
just love each other and live lifefor ourselves. Yeah, and stay tuned.
I know Anthony, you're working ona book and which is also we
talked about that, and I thinkyour story is amazing and will benefit bring
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lots of lots of light and wizardryto people for an infinite amount of time.
Yes, like our legends, likeour legends like Paramhanza, Yoga,
Nanda, and you know where wecan be in other realms and and here
and that we can say that yourbook too. Thank you. Yeah,
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stay tuned. All right, thisis so sad we have to go.
Tune in next week. Anthony,thanks again so much. You're really here,
you guys, thank you you tobe here. Thank you Kate Michaels
and to all you listeners. Wewill see you next time. On the
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W four WN Radio. Are youready to take a journey? Let's connect
with the healers of the world.It's that time. It's time for the
Language of Healing on W four WNRadio and Talk for TV. Now here's
your host, doctor Nicole Fort.Hello everybody, and welcome to another great
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episode of the Language of Healing.I'm your host, Nicole, and here's
the amazing co host of Pipe mana. Hello, and we're just coming
back after a great weekend at Welcometo Rockville, which is a big music
festival. Kind of new to me, you know, being it being such
(01:08):
a big venue. There were alot of people there and a lot of
bands, and it was really busy, and I'm feeling a little very excited
and a little bit tired. AndI have a surprise for my show tomorrow
that that even Rebel doesn't know aboutyet, having to do with Welcome to
Rockville. You got a hint forus? Or no, no, no,
(01:30):
he'll have to tune in. Tunein tomorrow. Level might figure it
out, you know, so nono hints? Mm hmm, okay,
Well tune in tomorrow The Pipe MainThe Adventures of Pipe Man on W four
See Why at one pm Eastern,right Wednesdays. That's right, that's right,
that's right. But it's all aboutit's all about you, and because
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we need some healing after Welcome toRockville. I know, I know this
is my circus now, right,you know? Yes, well, I
mean you know I caught your showlast week actually around music as therapy and
as medicine, and you know thatthis month is around like there's a lot
of talk around the mental health awarenessand I noticed that theme in the concert
(02:16):
and the festival, and a lotof artists would take a moment to a
you know, thank thank their fans, you know, reach out and say
if anyone's you know, in arough place, that you know, I've
been there too, and and wewere talking about this last time. That
music is you know, it's likesoul medicine. It comes from the soul
(02:38):
and the lyrics and the and therips and the beats and the dancing and
that I love all about it.So it's very healing experience. Now and
now there's that was like the loud, big bang boom and the antidote or
the balance and of that is maybesome quiet resting time, which I'm definitely
feeling the need to and and I'mstill in Florida. Get beautiful ocean,
(03:00):
and the ocean heals everything. Ibelieve that unless you get bit by a
shark, then maybe not. It'sthe circle of life. I guess It's
never happened to me though, butyou know I was. I brought it
up because I was talking to peopleabout that Welcome to Rockville and like there's
(03:21):
people that won't go into water becauseof the marine life and the fear of
it. And my viewpoint is it'stheir home, it's my backyard. I
respect that and them and they're reallynot. You know, it's just like
land. You have animals too.Let's all just coexist and you don't bother
(03:44):
them, they don't bother you,and we all just co exist. Yeah,
like the somatic relationships, right,absolutely, Yeah, we need each
other, one in each other,and we have to coexist. That's it.
Know, there's a lot of differentviewpoints out there. There's a lot
of different perspectives. There's a lotof different ways that people live their lives,
(04:05):
the like you know when we talkabout values and even things for self
care or healing healing has many differentviews and perspectives. And today's guest actually
is really is going to be sogreat for this conversation for many reasons.
Also knows Florida, so we cantalk a little bit about the sharks and
(04:26):
all that stuff too. The lizards. I've seen some lizards here. What
else. I mean, it's kindof been so Rockville was situated in the
Daytona like the speedway, the race, the NASCAR racetrack, so that's it's
concrete, you know, there wasn'tI didn't feel like I got exposed to
much of the surroundings, although therewere plenty of creatures there. Yeah,
(04:55):
that's that's correct. Plenty of creaturesand beasts sent beautiful people. I mean,
lots of great friends, and Ithink Rebel needs some healing too.
Yeah, what's going on Rebel?I, Well, we have no idea
why he says that. He justlikes to do that to me offhand.
(05:18):
You know, I have no ideawhy do I need healing? Pipe main
well, because everybody needs healing ofsome sort. Healing doesn't necessarily mean something
has to be wrong. It justmeans that you continue being in a positive
state and a high vibe and youknow, living in high energy instead of
(05:39):
low energy. And sometimes healing couldbe as simple as just having a better
day, even if you're having agood day, you know, like it
doesn't People seem to think healing needsto mean that there's something wrong. No,
I think healing is something you doevery single day that you're on this
(06:02):
earth here because we're constantly growing,evolving, and that to me, that
is healing. I would agree withthat. Healing is the act of It's
like a positive thing. Even ifyou have illness, it's your body showing
you like this is the next step. This is that is the healing process.
(06:26):
Now, Revel does need actual healing, but yeah, you know that
being said, maybe she needs togo go to the next you know pipe
Man's Adventure tour music festival she's been. She she's not had great experiences with
the pipe Man in that realm ohall right, yeah, yeah, she
(06:50):
needs a lot of healing when shegoes to one of those with me.
Okay, was it a big one? I mean four days is a long
time. Well no, one ofthem was at a little venue, but
yes she does. She has gonein the past the ladder than life and
(07:11):
uh you know, and then shegets a really good view with her media
passed from the top of the hillof the parking outside the venue. That
was the most wonderful place to beto listen to that see. And I
think that's part of healing too.Like the people at the festival that stay
outside the festival and don't enter thefestival. There are people that go to
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festivals and they just hang out andparty in the parking lot, like I
don't get I don't get that myself, but he'll get parties. But we
got a very important type that Rebelneeds to pay close attention to today,
and so do all you listeners andviewers. So let it roll, nicolet
(07:57):
let's bring them on. Hey arevery special. Guess I'm very excited to
have them with us today. It'sAnthony Erzi, who's a long time colleague,
friend, mutual connection with we sharea beautifully you know, wonderful mentor
that has passed. And yeah,so it's really nice to connect with Anthony.
(08:20):
Is he with us? Yeah,and let's bring it on before he
starts talking. By the way,while don't you mentioned a little bit about
what's going on in reference to thatmentor maybe now would be a good time
to make some announcements about that.Well, yes, there's some very exciting
developments actually really very recent developments aroundthe work emotional Wisdom training and our mutual
(08:46):
mentor, Kate Michaels, that wehave an opportunity to bring it back to
life here on W four cey Wfour w N. I'm not sure it's
kind of a it's an idea thatwe're playing with and so, but Kate
Michaels is a beautiful spirit, beautifulsoul. I know that she's impacted all
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of our lives that are here onthis channel right now, even Rebel.
Yeah, everybody, everybody here hasbeen impacted by this, this wonderful woman,
and it's an honor to carry onher work or even be associated with
with her and have learnt from her. She she had many great mentors and
(09:28):
masters, and in the realm ofneural linguistic programming, I think he might
be able to share a little bittoo. More about around that the Milton
Eric said approach and yeah, whydon't you go go ahead just share obviously.
I mean, I don't think Ineed to reiterate how much Kate truly
impacted all of us, Like andjust having those deep conversations with her was
(09:54):
just so eye opening and so easy. She made it so easy with the
coaching in itself, and it's almostlike the work was being done and we
didn't even know it, and it'slike later it would come out and we
can actually use it. And itwas just a magnificent process, the whole
emotional wisdom aka coaching in general.Yeah, because you know what I would
(10:18):
call Kate was I was in likedesperado mode. Okay, that's what I
call It's like I have an urgentproblem, like I need healing now.
I need to resolve this issue nowor else I'm going to drive myself crazy.
I'm going to say something stupid,you know, like this is kind
of my you know, my loopor my spin, and she would be
so good at telling me just stop, like she had no problem, just
(10:43):
stop, you know, and thenso that you know in That's a good
example of what healing is is whenyou're in it and you're moving through it,
and then you have someone to bea bit of a mirror or you
know, you get it reflected abit, and then you can retrain your
pattern. It's because we're likely doingthis over and over and over again,
you know, just sort of haveit. So, Yeah, conversations with
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Kate weren't always easy, that's forsure. You're not going there because it's
like my life is running amazing andI feel so good about myself and like
things are smooth. Although that wasalso a great time to coach with her
because that's when you can really likeso that's again, you don't have to
be sick to be healing. Canbe you can be healing as you're growing
and expanding and learning it. That'sexactly. That's more like prevention and the
(11:31):
real golden ticket. Yeah, oneof the things I really loved about Kate
is that no matter how like traumaticyour experience was, you could tell her
about it and she could laugh atit, which was so cool, Like
she could actually laugh and then bringyou into laughing at it, so you
could actually take a more macro viewof it and step outside of it,
(11:56):
be more dissocio, dissociate, disotiate. I'm sorry, I can't hear from
the actual event. So that wasI mean. I used to tell her
some deep things and she'd laugh atit, and I would be like,
why is she laughing? And Igot it. I slowly got it.
I'm like, oh wow, okay, Yeah, the more re'pliable with it,
(12:16):
the more flexible it is, themore we can flow with it.
And she was She's somebody that reallyshowed me that beautiful process, and a
lot of that was about taking astep back from it, disassociating from it,
and seeing it from a non agendaplace, which is so so crucial.
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Yeah, I love that analogy shewould use around being associated in and
dissociated out. It's like if you'rethere's a difference between riding the roller being
on the roller coaster and feeling thatin like going through the motions versus stepping
back and seeing the whole track,you know, So there's not much there's
(13:00):
two those two states are really usefulwhen we're stuck in spinning. And so,
yeah, Anthony, I know,I really admire your work that you're
doing, and I love your nameInfinite Light Wizardry. Oh. I just
think it's like, so, youknow, there's a mystery in words and
our thoughts and our beliefs. Yes, and there's like a the curiosity is
(13:28):
a spark, you know, Sowhy don't you tell us a little bit
about how you that I really thinkthat you're doing a wizard kind of perspective.
In fact, Kate used to talkabout wizard you know, wizard concepts
a lot, and she would beactually kind of touted as a wizard.
And I also, you know,never realized that while we were going through
(13:50):
that process, and then later on, you know, I would take other
people through these processes just in mydaily works, you know, dealing with
people or dealing with friends, andthey would say something like you're a wizard.
You know. That's so that thatjust came up recently kind of with
that that name change, and I'mlike, oh, yeah, that makes
sense, and I can resonate withthat and the whole process of making not
(14:16):
necessarily manipulating light, but working lightto your favor, working this situation to
your favor, molding it like aclay, being able to laugh at it
so you can make it flexible.That's all part of the wizardry journey and
wizardry mastering. Mm hmmm, yeah, because we can get so fixated on
(14:37):
something, you know, and toopen it up a little bit and to
add a little like sparkle, youknow, a little magic. I don't
want to say that word lightly either, but it's like it's and she talked
a lot about miracles, you know, and that's how you make a miracle
happen is you give it, youknow, space and to evolve and be
curious around it. Yeah. Sothat's there's some exciting news. We'll be
(15:01):
talking much more about that. Buttoday's conversation around you know, navigating like
you know, challenges with emotional wisdom. That was her entire you know,
like the foundation of emotional wisdom trainingbecause it it's not like life is going
to happen anyway, and what reallymatters is how you respond versus react to
(15:22):
what is showing up in your life. And that's where you, like you
said, Anthony, you can takeadvantage of these moments more readily and propel
yourself into more of a life thatyou want to be living. Like you
know you're you're the traveling free spirit. I really dig that part of you
and think that's why we reconnect tolike minded adventurers all of us here.
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Yeah, definitely, and I knownow like more than ever it kind of
I don't know how this is foryou guys, but what I experience is
that the more I try to controlthings, the more I just like the
house just crumbles. Absolutely a certainaspect of getting to where you just say,
oh you know what, just gowith it. Whatever's going to happen
is going to happen. You gotto laugh at it. This is it
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and all it. I always saythat you can't control any of the situation
surrounding to other people, any variable. All you can do is control your
attitude towards it. Yes, Ilike that. I like that. You
know there's a motivational speaker. He'sactually Tony Robbins talks about him in his
(16:36):
seminars. His name is W Mitchell, and everybody want to look him up
because what amazing story he has.He's almost died twice, Ninety percent of
his body's burned quadriplegic and yet oneof the most positive empowering people there is.
And one of his slogans is it'snot what happens to you, it's
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what you do with it. Mmpositively positively, I mean, and that's
the big thing too about the wholeneural neuro linguistic process and and you know,
bringing in Milt ericson coaching to it. We get to make the meaning,
I mean, when it comes downto it, we get to make
the meaning of what does this mean? You know it always would ask that
(17:22):
question, what does that mean toyou? What does this word mean to
you? And then yeah, likeand it's so yeah, it's so important.
I mean, that's everything. That'slike the context because you know,
you could be listening to somebody andmaybe that's where a lot of miscommunication comes
from, because depending on where youwere brought up or what influences you had
around you, like it matters howyou form. You have to you have
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to really kind of go into yourmind while you're thinking things. Like just
when we when we were prepping forthe show today, Uh, you know,
I asked you a question and hesaid, I don't know, And
my answer was a tony Robbins NLPanswer, and it was, well,
if you did know, what wouldit be? And people may think that's
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kind of silly, but that doescause your brain to like trigger to actually
be able to know, because thenyou kind of think of it from a
different aspect. Yeah, because we'retrying to answer from our Like I think
Kate always talked about this the youknow you well it's come it's knowledge that
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you ask people something three times toreally get the answer right, because the
first time, it's like, youknow, it goes into the conscious round
like oh, what should I besaying? And then like the unconscious,
Oh what do they want me tosay? Or what do I would do?
I think that they think that Iwant to be saying, and then
and then it gets to the heartor to the core of it. So
yeah, the answer Kate would alwaysget me on that too. I don't
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know, you do know, right, because we do we do know.
We we may just not want admituteto ourself or or to somebody else,
but we do know, you know, And we may not even consciously know
though. So there's the other sideof it. So you got to dig
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deep because there could be something deepin there that is why you're saying you
don't know because you don't want toexpose what's dug down deep. Yeah,
then you have to confront it.Yeah, and then once you confront it,
you kind of have to change.You have to like check out,
check out, consciously check out orchange. And that's a you know,
(19:33):
a decision or choice that a lotof us. You know, some things
aren't easy, so it's easy tojust sweep it under the right. I
say most things aren't easy, they'resimple, not easy, and people confuse
those two words. You can havea simple formula for something or simple answer,
but it doesn't mean it's the easyanswer. It doesn't mean it's the
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easy way, the easy formula,you know. I mean, even as
an example in school, let's sayyou take a statistics class. There could
be some simple question, but youhave to do five pages of work to
get to the answer, and it'snot very easy. Or sometimes you just
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have to go to a simple answer, like you'll love this. One of
the best things I ever experienced incollege was a philosophy class and the final
exam, you have three hours towrite a paper and the question the essay
question was why, And there wasone girl that walked out of a class
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in like ten seconds and we're alllooking like, what the hell is she
doing? She got the best gradein the class. And I'm bringing this
up because we do that to ourselvestoo. Sometimes we overcomplicate things, overwhelm
things, ourselfs and so she didn'tdo that. Her answer was why not?
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Yeah? I like that. Ilike that. I like the process
too, of like you were saying, Nicole on the asking multiple times,
because this is obvious in everybody's dailyoccurrence is ask a person that you're just
talking to, you know, maybewalking on the street, how they're doing.
They're going to give you the mostsurface answer that you can think of.
Right, I'm doing good, I'mdoing good, we're all doing good.
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You take it to the next levelwhat makes it so good? Then
you're diving in a little further.Then you take it a little further,
you're diving even deeper, and thenyou get to some real stuff. And
that's where magic happens. Absolutely.And I think that also has to do
with when you're asking the question morethan once. It's it's like we were
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talking about before, it's sometimes whenyou ask the question in a different way,
people come up with a different answer, or maybe their mood changes or
maybe whatever it is, there couldbe some kind of energy there, or
there could be multitude of things,but every time you ask them it causes
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them to think more, which maygravitate to grabbing another answer. Definitely,
definitely, well where we have somany layers, you know, and there's
a lot of you know, evenif you think about all the masks we
put on and how we can justhabituate, it's like that's you know,
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that's just what I do. Andyou don't even realize it then, because
when you do something enough times,it becomes like unconsciously competent, like you're
not even thinking about it. You'redoing it so automatically. It's like a
very well, deeply entrenched pathway thatyou are choosing every time. So,
you know, we talk in NLP, and you know, when we're retraining,
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like the neural pathways, you haveto forge a new pathway. So
it's like you're being a pioneer ofyourself. And I love that as we're
all adventurers here. You know,the quest inside is quite a journey and
a worthwhile venture, I believe.And yeah, language, the language that
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we use is really you know,beneficial and supportive in that that quest a
question quest. I love that too, you know, and building up those
layers. I mean you have layeron top of layer on top of layer.
It takes somebody who's going to rodonto those layers and keep asking those
questions and being in acceptance. That'skind of the the antithesis of a coach.
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Yeah, So when you're working withpeople, Anthony, like what take
us through some of your processes,like what have you? What's what?
What happens when we step into therealm of the infinite light wizardry? Well,
a couple of things happen. Imean, first of all, this
is not for the faint to heartlearning these things. You are really diving
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into somebody's subconscious. And when yougo into somebody subconscious, it becomes personable.
So there's certain things that you haveto loop and tie closed. So
if you're going into somebody subconscious,you're in a responsible position because you're kind
of getting this VIP access right now. You can work. In fact,
in my own life, I dothis kind of habitually, So I got
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to be careful sometimes because sometimes I'llmeet somebody within five minutes they're telling me
some really crucial information that later mightbecome a position of judgment towards me because
I opened up that box. Soit is very very powerful stuff. And
really having the responsibility of knowing thatand the information behind it and making sure
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that you loop it and and youkeep it, you know, keep it,
I guess responsible would be would bethe best way to put it,
but in a healing fashion and obviouslygiving solutions and you know, uh,
going deeper in a good way.What do you mean by loop it?
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So that so let's just take,for example, say we open up a
belief that somebody has. If wejust go, okay, somebody's you know,
they got this negative pattern in theirlife that they want to they want
to quit. Your brain is makingthese loops, it's going through these patterns,
and it's basically playing out the samethought or the pattern over and over
(25:42):
and over again. When you diveinto that, you open up that,
You basically open up that loop,and we got to put something else in
or go in a different direction.So for instance, taking something like the
uh, the repeat and complete process, which is something Kate was really big
on. That's opening up that loopand in order to close that loop,
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you have to finish, finalize thatsentence. So for example, I don't
want to do this because I feellazy. Okay, Well, that's looping
all the all the time for somebodywho might be you know, tend to
be lazy, or somebody that mightbe apathetic. That's looping and going on
all the time under the surface.So we open that up. Now,
(26:29):
we got to finish it, right, So you take the client through that
process. I feel lazy because Iget them to finish that process because maybe
because I am not doing enough.I am not doing enough because I finishing
that process is actually creating a solutionand actually creating a way out of the
(26:52):
actual pattern. Yeah, and justthink on that. That solutions focused.
You know that it's not like we'renot revisiting everything rehashing it. It's like
we're finding a new way. WhatI love about what you were saying is
how it changes the focus from theproblem to the solution. Definitely. I
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love how So Okay, in mymind, solution is like spelt like s
O U L you know, soulsolution And this just reds what There's a
show we've had on the network.It's on hiatus now that that's the name
of the show sol Solutions. Imean, it's just beautiful. And I'm
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thinking of something that really inspires meis the Hawaiian practice of and that stems
from well, there's like a itmeans to make things rightly right, so
if there's any kind of and itused to be a community practice. So
if there was one problem with betweenmembers or between one it was, it
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was the whole community would come togetherand they would sit with that until it
was made rightly right, you know. And it's like, so it was
coming with solutions from like the soul, so it didn't have to have developed
layers upon layers, and you know, and we get so entrenched in like
(28:23):
the web of that we build aroundit. Like it's yeah, so the
repeat and complete, it's like it'slike a cleansing. It's like cleaning clean,
clean, clean, clean clean,back back back. Where does that
like, oh, where did thatcome from? Isn't that interesting? When
did I start believing that there's alot of things to sweep up and out?
(28:45):
And I love that you mentioned two. That's so funny. I was
going to say something about that before. That's such a beautiful process and that's
something that everyone can do and everyonehas access to. Did you want to
say? You want to say?Go ahead? The whole of prayer is
actually it's an old Hawaiian prayer andit was actually used to basically heal an
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entire group of people without even beingin their presence, just by looking at
their their you know, their file. The story behind is pretty unique,
but it's basically four simple words forsimple phrases I'm sorry, please forgive me,
I love you, and I thankyou. So four simple phrases are
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actually deeply healing in those old traumaticpatterns that are are in our cellular nature.
Debris wise, Yeah, and Iimagine, you know, just like
erasing it. It's like that's alsopart of it. It's like clean,
clean, clean, always, likeevery day clean the palate, you know,
so it's like the energies can goand it can rest and you can
(30:02):
be fresh well. Like even agood example of that is if you go
to a fine restaurant, what dothey do in between each course? They
bring something out to clean your palate, because otherwise you can't fully experience the
next course and you won't have thefull feeling taste and just you know,
feels everything that goes along with it, and I think that holds true for
(30:26):
everything in life. Yeah, whois a shot of ginger for the next
round? And there you go someof the sniff of coffee beans? Is
that the palate? Is that apalate cleanser too? Or should be?
If it's not, it definitely shouldbe. I like when you go to
(30:49):
an Asian restaurant and they give youa Surebert likes dessert between every course.
I'm there, man, I don'teven need the courses, just keep bringing
the dessert. Okay, where isthat? I've never been to that such,
I've never seen such a thing.Yeah, if you go to like
a high line like Asian restaurant likein New York, that's what they do.
(31:12):
You know when they do that alot in Europe too. Okay,
see, okay, those are twoplaces I have not really been and traveled
much too yet, so I'm aadding that on the list. There you
go, fine dining in New Yorkand Europe there it is good stuff,
big dreams. Yeah, let's makeit happen. Okay. Yeah, speaking
(31:37):
of traveling, where's the next placethat you're going? Nicool? Okay,
Well you know what it's it's itis an adventure. It's it's close,
it's pretty local to me. I'mgoing to the big bad city of Edmonton,
Alberta Lake Cup or the Stanley UpFINALI yeah, actually this will be
(32:00):
Yeah, maybe I'll you know,get in on that. I don't know,
no, but I'm from Calgary,so you know there's like a naturally
occurring rivalry between the two, youknow. Yeah, so you have to
go watch the Oilers lose the StanleyCup. But then, yeah, you
do have to band together because ifthey lose or lose into an American team.
(32:22):
So it's kind of like I'm aDevils fan. The Rangers in are
in the playoffs. They're my rivalryduring the season, but I'll have to
root for them now because they're mightthey're the only representation. Yeah, I
know, same, It's like yougot to keep it like I can.
I can support Alberta too. That'sfine. So tell us more about what
(32:43):
you're going to do in Edbington.That's better than the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Uh, you know. Actually,speaking of amazing mentors who've inspired us to
shift and change and grow, Iam going to be reconnecting with one of
my mentors from almost twenty years agowho taught me, Yeah, some some
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amazing body work. They're like osteopathictechniques as cranio, sacral and visceral manipulation.
It's actually what got me into Chinesemedicine. And I haven't seen this
teacher. I've been keeping an eyeon her classes over the years, and
it's just never lined up. Andshe's going to be close to me,
and so I'm right away like I'mgoing to be there. So I'm taking
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three days of classes there and thenI'm doing a big Chinese medicine conference,
and so it's going to be youknow, what's that word, intellectual or
cerebral kind of course, but alsoyou know, it's like you blend in
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the theory with the practice, andI am a total nerd for that.
I love learning. I love andthis very esoteric stuff. You know,
Anthony, you'll really dig that too, because when we're when we're working with
the body, it's like you're feelingon a very subtle level, You're you're
being invited into the body like it'sa it's a place of honor to be
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working on somebody like that, becauseyou're unraveling some really deep stuff and allowing
it to, yeah, like unravelso they can find movement. Like we
were talking about this Anthony, it'slike move your body in ways that you
normally wouldn't do, things that younormally wouldn't stretch yourself, you know.
It's like that's that's the way youkeep young and youthful and maintain your vitality,
(34:35):
your zest for life. Yes,and the fact that we're electromagnetic creatures
that have electromagnetic fields, and wehave iron in our blood that's actually circulating
for that, I think the Chinesemedicine. How you were saying that,
and that's something I heard you sayyesterday. We were talking about each body
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part being connected to certain too well, I mean as far as the Meridians
and I don't know too much aboutit, but just being connected emotionally,
I think that's pretty remarkable. Well, that is what got me into Chinese
medicine. I saw this chart thatthis this teacher had brought in and it
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was every organ of the body,and it had every organ had an associated
color, season, taste, smell, and emotion. And I honestly was
like, I'm someone who I thoughtthat I had zero emotions, and I
felt pretty good about that about myself. It's like, I never cry,
(35:36):
I don't care. I just Ialso wasn't like no, it was a
you know, little emo teager likeanyone else. Right, But I thought
that I was doing pretty good untilI realized no, I got a lot
of stored stuff in there, andso I found it fascinating that our organs
could actually hold on to emotions.And then it was like, oh,
(35:58):
once I opened up that flog gate, I think I'm still on that journey.
Sounds yeah, okay, but it'sa beautiful journey. I think it's
a lifelong you know, this iswhat I think the fun of life is.
It's like a practice, you know, because every day, yeah,
(36:21):
right, if we need anything morenowadays is to get more in touch with
our emotions really truly. I meanthere's so much emotionless you know, habits
going on out there in the collective, which is is something that definitely needs
to be addressed. I think.I think emotion is necessary to create the
(36:43):
passion to be able to experience anythingyou want out of life. Yeah.
I like that, Dane. Ilike that. Yeah, because it's like
the root, you know, theroots of emotion or what that means if
you break it down a goth,a goth person, that's that's email.
(37:06):
Yeah, this black lipstick mandatory.And I like that you said that too,
Dean, because the one of themost powerful emotions is anger, and
yeah, that's an emotion that weare like like automatically suppressed rather than actually,
you know, letting loosen a creativefashion that's healthy. Well, it's
(37:30):
interesting you should say that, becausefunny enough, like and a lot of
people don't realize this. Okay,so we just came from Welcome to Rockville
and that welcome to rock Fielder's mashpits, and most people don't understand the concept
of a mosh pit and gain inthere and like bumping each other around and
all this. But really what itis is exactly what you said. It's
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an outlet for your anger or whatever'sbothering you that doesn't hurt anybody, and
where other people or feeling that sameanger or same emotions and they're able to
let it loose. And I mean, to be perfectly blunt. One of
the things I said in an interviewto a band is man when I was
younger, going in the mosh pit, save somebody's face, because if it
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weren't for that mash pit, I'dbe punching a bunch of people in the
face, you know. But that'swhat it's about. It's like, get
those emotions out there, you know, instead of containing them, because when
you contain them, they're gonna explode. And that's why you have situations like
we do in this world, youknow that go negative or go really bad,
(38:37):
or where people like snap. Youknow, you snap because of that.
You snap because you're containing everything andyour body can't and your mind can't
hold it in anymore, and that'swhat causes you snap. But if you
have a release and a way toget it out, then you never snap
because you're constantly healing yourself truly,and you actually add to the world because
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you're able to outlet it in acreative way that actually adds value to the
world rather than just suppressing it andjust say pile up, pile up,
and it becomes chronic and then younext thing, you know, you're emotionless.
Yeah, and we talked about toowith the music artists, because I
talked about on my show last weekabout music and how it's the best therapy
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and it goes right along with whatwe're saying, because these musical artists writing
their songs are doing exactly what you'reexplaining, and writing those songs is their
release and their way of getting everythingthat's bothering them inside outside and in a
(39:44):
creative way, in a positive waythat actually helps other people to heal.
So something that could have been anegative, you know, is actually a
positive that can make positive change throughoutthe world with all people. Heck,
yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah. I think at this time
(40:07):
we should have Anthony, you know, shout out any of his socials,
websites or anything that where they canconnect with him and check out what he
does. So I'm on TikTok,I'm on YouTube, I'm on Instagram.
Those are my big three platforms thatI post on pretty regularly every day.
(40:28):
At Infinite Light Wizardry. At InfiniteLight Wizardry, that's where you can find
me. And what would you saythe listeners and the viewers would why should
they visit your socials? Why shouldthey visit everything you have? What will
they get from it? In youknow, the the nutshell version, because
(40:52):
everybody's going to be different, soyou can't say what everybody's going to get
from it. M HM. Youknow, this is kind of controversial for
me to say this, but maybea triggering in emotions because sometimes that's what
it takes in order to get peopleto take the next step. So literally,
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I do make some content that actuallymight trigger some people's emotions, and
I kind of do that on purpose, Yeah, because sometimes that's what it
takes. So I think a lotof times it takes that, right,
because sometimes you just need that extremereaction that triggers something in your head to
make positive change. Stimulation definitely.Yeah. I come from a more traumatic
(41:38):
background where we kind of were steeredtowards not touching the trauma and you know,
just walking on eggshells and walking,you know, everybody to get along,
to get along, but you know, not having that stimulus there when
it's appropriate, that's missing out andlosing for everybody. Yes, there are
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certain people not getting information that theyneed by suppressing that that feeling or emotion.
Well, think about relationships too,So how many times what is the
story when people end up getting divorce? There were things building up for years
and years, but nobody ever saidanything. They just kind of went through
the motions, kept it locked in, and in one day that explosion of
(42:24):
all, all of that is whatit creates the divorce definitely, yeah,
and then the mess is just tootoo much to clean up. You know,
if you're tidy every day, youknow, if you do the make
things rightly right on a consistent basis, you know, well then a you
would know if you're with the rightperson or not with the relationship example,
(42:47):
and or you could you know,work together, work and grow together.
Yeah. I wanted to add onething too. With emotion, you know,
if you break it down, it'slike just the energy in motion.
And from a Taoist perspective or theChinese medicine or Eastern medicine, we use
the five element theory and so butelement is just a loose word, like
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it's actually phases or stages. Sowe should be we're always moving through the
phases. We shouldn't be stuck inany one phase. And you're right,
it's like anger is one of themost to be respected emotions because it has
true power to recreate. It's likethe destroyer that recreates and then it resets
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boundaries, like that's where you canreally find your new boundaries. And it's
associated with the element of wood.So when you talk about snapping. You
know, it's like being so rigidthat you can't withstand the wind or that
elemental force that comes and like reallystresses you and then you snap. It's
best to be flexible and able towithstand, you know, meet what life's
(43:57):
life brings you. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, going back to
what you were saying about, youknow, tidying up a little bit all
the time. Best thing I Youknow that I was taught when I was
a kid, Like my grandfather wasa baker, and so my father would
teach, like, when you cookor you bake, clean as you go,
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so by time you're done, there'snothing in the sink. And think
about that, because how many timesdo people do like these big holiday dinners
or they invite people over and theyjust leave everything in there and they just
pile it up in the sink,and then when everybody leaves, they never
want to clean up because you're lookingat this big pilots in the sink and
(44:43):
it becomes so overwhelming. It seemslike such a big job opposed to I'm
always the type that, you know, if I'm going to cook, if
I'm going to bake, I doit as I go and literally, the
only thing I have to clean whenI'm done is the plate I had to
eat on. Yeah, it's sucha such a great feeling. I think
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your grandfather went to the same schoolas my grandma because she taught me that
rule too. Up as you goalong, there's nothing left you can just
say you both have Italian. Youguys both have Italian roots. Hey,
there you go to the Italian.It must be anything anything else, Anthony.
(45:29):
I mean, this has been sucha great well. I mean,
you're so wise here. The bigthing about I appreciate that, so or
you. I appreciate that. Thebig thing to me about crucial conversations,
like having those conversations is able toyou know, relieve things, relief stress,
and touch on things that are reallyimportant that need to be touched on.
(45:51):
So rather than just suppressing it.And it's not good for anyone when
anything's suppressed. I mean, itmight be good for somebody as far as
them remaining silence, but it doesn'tdo any any good. Yeah, maybe
there's an appropriate time to have to, you know, to have it be
outletted. But yeah, repressed anger, it can it does turn into depression
(46:15):
as well. So there's something alittle bit there to be, you know,
to explore and and just on thatnote, if anyone's listening that you
know, feels like they've got thebiggest pile of dishes on their counter and
they can't they don't even know whereto start, or they don't know how
to clean up, you know,just it is possible to have a sparkly
(46:36):
clean countertop, you know, justdo the work, reach out and you
know, reach out to you know, any one of us can support you
through that in our work and andor someone that you know, Yeah,
there you go. Yeah, speakof reaching out, Nicole. Why'n't you
tell everybody how they can reach outto you when they can watch the show
(46:59):
every week? CA can catch thepodcast all that good stuff, right,
thanks Dean the co host Extort andAir here. Hey. You can find
us live on W four w Ndot com every Tuesday at two pm Eastern.
You can catch the replays on anypodcast streaming platform that you that you
(47:22):
use on the YouTube. You canfind me on Instagram and Facebook at the
Language of Healing and Tuesdays two pmlive, Bring us, you know,
bring us some questions. Pop inthe chat, say hello if you have
any special requests. Or something thatyou're interested in hearing about. I would
love to hear that and bring thatto the table. Yeah, thank you
(47:47):
for the wonderful co hosts Dean andour amazing guest Anthony. Was so wonderful
to have you. Thank you,Thank you Dean, Thank you Nicole.
Thank you for having such an awesomeplatform. I loved a man. I
love the foundational place to share allthis information. That's amazing. Yeah,
thank you for helping all the peoplethat you do. Because in the world
(48:07):
we're living right now that has suchlow energy, we need more people like
you so that we can create positivechange throughout the world and we can all
just love each other and live lifefor ourselves. Yeah, and stay tuned.
I know Anthony, you're working ona book and which is also we
talked about that, and I thinkyour story is amazing and will benefit bring
(48:32):
lots of lots of light and wizardryto people for an infinite amount of time.
Yes, like our legends, likeour legends like Paramhanza, Yoga,
Nanda, and you know where wecan be in other realms and and here
and that we can say that yourbook too. Thank you. Yeah,
(48:53):
stay tuned. All right, thisis so sad we have to go.
Tune in next week. Anthony,thanks again so much. You're really here,
you guys, thank you you tobe here. Thank you Kate Michaels
and to all you listeners. Wewill see you next time. On the
Language of Healing. Wow, whata show today and the journey does not
(49:15):
stop here. Come travel the worldwith Nicole every Tuesday at two pm Eastern
Time, as together we become morefluent in the Language of Healing on W
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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