August 6, 2024 • 51 mins
Ever wondered if your inner life is like a fantasy novel, but with fewer dragons and more existential crises?
Dive into the whimsical world of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and explore the concept of the Five Spirits.
Join us as we meet each of the Five Spirits—Shen (Spirit), Hun (Ethereal Soul), Po (Corporeal Soul), Yi (Intellect), and Zhi (Willpower). We’ll share how they influence your mental, emotional, and physical well-being and offer tips on how to give them a helping hand.
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Dive into the whimsical world of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and explore the concept of the Five Spirits.
Join us as we meet each of the Five Spirits—Shen (Spirit), Hun (Ethereal Soul), Po (Corporeal Soul), Yi (Intellect), and Zhi (Willpower). We’ll share how they influence your mental, emotional, and physical well-being and offer tips on how to give them a helping hand.
The Language of Healing is broadcast live Tuesdays at 2PM ET on W4WN Radio - Women 4 Women Network (www.w4wn.com) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com). The Language of Healing TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com).
The Language of Healing Podcast is also available on https://thelanguageofhealingpodcast.com/, Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Are you ready to take a journey. Let's connect with
the healers of the world. It's that time. It's time
for the Language of Healing on W four WN Radio
and Talk for TV. Now here's your host, doctor Nicole Fort.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hello and welcome everyone. Thanks for tuning in again and
another episode of the Language of Healing and with our
with our co host Extraordinair being the pipemin Piper.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hello out not eating the call? Why are you responding
to me the something I'm sending rebel in the private chat?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Oh well, okay, so we're talking about LinkedIn? Thought you
wanted my LinkedIn?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, it's on there now. No, I was seeing it
missing from the broadcast. So I was private chatting rebel.
But I'm glad you answered. Somebody answered, because you're the
only one that answered. I don't know rebels sleeping right now.
Just saying I was not I was fixing the problem
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shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So there, yeah, we we we we're live streaming on
many platforms right now.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yes, and and so we're on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, Twitch, Twitter.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, and then the replays all on iHeart.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We're also live on Top four TV and w WN Radio.
Forget the replays because people are live here now and
we want those people. We We'll worry about the replay
people later. We want to give first priority to the
people that have dedicated their time to our show live
(02:17):
at this time. And I just realized, can you tell
me I forgot to put my shades on?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh yeah, well, you know, just showing up.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I don't have to fix them now because now.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You're wearing a cool T shirt today? Though. Is it
for our visual listeners? I don't know. Is it it's channeling?
Oh amazing, So it's not maryln is Marilyn Monroe yet
it's what do you? I don't know what does it
say at the bottom away, it's a cool shirt.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, it comes from one of the conferences. It's a company,
but that it would be Marilyn if Marilyn was.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
All taed Yah yeah, yeah, yeah, Nice's funny.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So tell me, well that wasn't AI. I don't think.
I think that was before AI became such a big
thing recently, this shirt. But speaking of AI and this shirt,
what about dragons?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Oh? Dragons?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, well, you know, dragons, because whatever you're doing before
you go to sleep, I want some. I don't see
a dragons while I'm sleeping.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Fantasy, No, you don't. You don't imagine your life as
you know, a mythical land. Fantasy land. No, that's why characters.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
No, that's why I live in the outside world and
not in a mental hospital. All right, you went to
your a psychiatrist and said, you're walking around like your
life is a bunch of dragons and all those other
things you mentioned. I can assure you that they would
be putting you into a seventy two hour baker check.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh come on, Fantasy is like a huge, hugely popular genre.
Look at all those video games and TV shows, movies
and books, and it comes from somewhere. It's it's imagination,
that's you know, it's another world. And who knows dragon's
actually could be real.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know, well they could be. But my point is
is that there's a difference between watching a movie, listening
to a song and actually walking through life thinking that
this stuff that you see in a fancy novel is
literally going on around you. Literally. That's why they might
put you in the mental hospital. I'm just saying. But
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you know, I am all for it. You just can't
let people know you're doing it. Okay, that's the whole point.
I constantly walk around with all these thoughts in my
head that nobody should know that I'm thinking. Okay, and that's.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Just twist to it, right. I think that's That's what
I'm all about. Fun play it. It relaxes the body.
It creates more possibilities like whoa, how fantastic. But yeah,
you know it's you're not going to be living in
their full time I am I have in reality.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Rebel Shive came shut and dressed up as a dragon
for this show.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I don't have any dragon attire. I'm sorry, I have.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Other they don't wear clothes. Rebel you don't need a tire.
They don't wear clothes. Okay, oh my goodness, if a dragon, okay,
doctor Nicole, if a dragon did wear a clothes, what
kind of clothes would they wear?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Little booty shorts for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
The hint of a segue to Chinese medicine, they would
wear like Asian clothes. Yeah, yeah, they're going to their
Chinese medicine, expert, doctor Nicole Porton.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And yeah, well, the dragon represents so much in Chinese culture.
I'm sure you've maybe seen that or there's that famous image.
It's like the two dragons around the pearl. Yeah, yeah, yea,
and it kind of represents the yin and the young
and right away.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I don't think you ever noticed, well, all the times
you've seen me in person and on the show, you've
never noticed that I do.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Have taiji, whereas you're disappearing. Yeah, you're a fantasy.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Last I have the yin yang ying have a ding
dong and the yin yang right.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Ye oh, yes, you're ready to roll.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But no, seriously, though, okay, I want to hear it.
If I were a dragon and I were coming on
this show, I want to hear I would want to
hear about the five spirits in traditional Chinese mena.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yes, well, yeah, thanks thanks for that, because if you
think about the original, let's go back to this source,
like just origin, and if you had none of the
modern stuff we have today and we're just you know,
very basic, what do you have around you?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Is that the source? And like well okay, wait wait
wait is that the source like in the TV show
Charmed Source.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Oh, it's been a while since I've seen that the source.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
N sources like the source of all evil?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, yeah, I would say it's the same thing. I mean,
it's good and evil. It's birthed from everything. So what
what about that before?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, what is the and the Chinese concept on you
know evil and not evil?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, there's the duality of everything. You know, they're they
are born of one another. They rely on each other.
You know, it's like they just are what creates unity
in a way, you know, the two two separates can
create the whole. And that's you know somewhat the image
of the two dragons around you know, with the pearl
and with the yeah, that yin yang symbol, that one
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that you see with the black and the white and
the and the dots, right, one right there. Yeah, yeah,
that's called the thai gi. So that symbol.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Represents So does that mean I should wear tai taiji
my taiji when I do tai chi.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, when you're doing tai chi, you are doing tai
tai taiji is with you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But when you're doing taiji, are you doing thai chi?
The question, I don't think it goes Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, this was sides the point. But I mean it
is an exercise and a practice too. And you know,
I love I love mythical like adventures and stories because
I think that that makes valuable life lessons or concepts
that are sometimes so hard to really pinpoint. It gives
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them a little bit of context and you can relate
to it a little bit. And this is I mean,
traditions have been carried through stories, you know. So, and
that's funny because his history is his story, right, So
what we know today could could be a different story
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than what we knew.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Then.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It's like a big game of telephone tag, you know.
And especially with Chinese medicine, you know, one thing about
the Five Spirits is that it is, in really ancient
times a critical piece of the puzzle in the mental, emotional,
spiritual aspect of physical health. And as we have got on,
I mean in China specifically the cultural revolution and when
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mounts It Dunk came in a lot of that stuff changed,
like the spiritual part of it became separate, and we
can't really separate these things or else it's like just
one piece of the pie. So when now today we
have to remember that knowledge. And that's why it's like
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rediscovering it because these are you know, like archetypes, are
parts of you that are just as active players. So
why not just give them a little character that's.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I have a riddle for you, by the way, Okay,
it has to do with the five spirits? Yeah, So
which one of the five spirits would this fall under?
So my live show The Adventures pipe Man is tomorrow Wednesday.
Your live show The Language of Healing is today Touesday yesterday.
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I pre recorded my live show for tomorrow The Adventures
of Pipe Man Wednesday because I'm leaving going out of
town to a wedding. But which spirit would describe the
fact that tomorrow my beard is gray and today it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh my goodness, that's awesome. A little flashback through time
or time space continuum. I would say that's the spirit
of the liver of the hun. It regulates time.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So literally, yesterday I was in tomorrow and today it
looks like I'm after tomorrow, but I'm actually today.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Wow, see did you figure that out? Did you follow rebel?
Did you follow that ancient Chinese secret?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah? No, it's not calgon.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But my question is when she does that, why again,
is it a little girl sound like Eddie voice that
she does she defaults to little girl. I'm so sorry,
pipe man, it ain't Chinese secrets.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
There you go. Nice.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That sounds like a little boy. Now it sounds like
a little girl trying to be a little boy.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
That is the day age, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Okay, don't revel Well, their children are the best, you know,
examples of imagination. Yeah, it's like tapping into that playful
childlike quality.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, seriously, access You are absolutely correct, because that's the
problem with adults. And I think to me, if you're
going to get one thing out of traditional Chinese medicine
based on what we're talking about today, it's that just
because we come and become adults doesn't mean we have
to say squash imagination and because we're adults doesn't mean
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we should squash the imagination of children because basically because
they do have such imagination there, I think children are
more open to learning and figuring out things than adults
that are hardheaded and refuse to have a imagination and
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think you're supposed to act a certain way as an adult.
You know, I'm doing rep voice over right now? That was.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
That sounded like a scary man?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well you haven't met Rebel, have you? But anyway, but
I mean, do you see what I'm saying here?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah? Yeah, Because one example that I love relatable is
that movie Inside Out. I think they did a really
cool job of of that movie. Yeah, because there's five
characters in there, right, and they can represent the five elements,
the five spirits, the five emotions, the you know, they're
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all they're they're all together, Like the five is is
quite a powerful number, you know, So we can give
them archetypes and stories, so then it's relatable. So then
it's like, oh, yeah, when sadness goes missing or no,
what was it joy? When Joy goes missing? Like how
do we find her again? You know? And what what
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creates you know, something in someone's life to you know,
have that adventure unfold.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Sole coping skillful trait with Chinese traditional Chinese medicine into dating.
So yeah, if all five of your spirits are existing
at one time, how does that work in dating?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, they should be all communicating, working in unison.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So if you were out at a date with somebody
and all five of their spirits showed up and it
like kind of seemed like they were just being you know,
like all those emotions and inside out they're all talking
to each other. But what if you hear them talking
to each other? Then what do you think?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh well what would I think? I mean, then they're
all talking, Then they're all talking together, and they're all
showing up, and maybe they put one more in the front,
like maybe the you know, maybe Joy because she represents
like the heart, the fire element, and that's that's connected
well I mean to the heart literally, but it's like
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our purpose and our passion. And I think that's a
good way to get to know somebody what motivates them, right, Yeah,
like you can share some other things, you know, I'm
just thinking of like another motivator could be the willpower,
Like you know, you get to know where some one
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someone's boundaries are Oh that's a good one too, you know,
like that spirit should show up and be like, these
are my boundaries. It's very nice to have a clear.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Let's talk about boundaries. Let's talk about boundaries because that
word bothers me. It's being serious, okay, because along with overwhelm,
but that, yeah, overwhelmed, there's good reason this one's different. Okay.
The boundaries thing is because it's so overused now, okay
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to the point of rude. So like, because that's the
big buzzword in therapy nowadays. Everybody you talk to talks
about their boundaries, and it's like you're not allowed to
express yourself because of.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Their Oh you've got some microphone issues.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Was listening okay, because he was trying to say and pipe, man,
you were muted?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, well the boundaries. Yeah, I mean it's like
a I don't know what other word would you want
to be using. You're still not on there. I can
see your arms.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know why I was muted because I hit the
wire on my mic and that's why I was going
like this. So Nicole would get to him to keep
talking because he was going to hear me.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know what's so funny. I kind of looked down
at that moment and I was just listening, so I
didn't really see like you and like, oh, radio silence.
We don't like this. We don't like this. Now I
need to be quick, and you're talking about boundaries. So
is there another word that you might use? I mean,
because I think that it's it's healthy. It's like the
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banks of the river.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
They I think boundaries are healthy.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Well, now you sound echoey like you're now you're traveling
through the space space continuum. This is the moment where.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You come up with I'm quite excited about talking about
these things that my MC keeps screwing up.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But you're handsy, hansy talker. Yes, that's just knocking everything.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
The Italian in me Okay, yeah, I'm cursed to be
an Italian Jew. The Italian is going to sit there
and talk with my hands, and the Jew's going to say,
speak up right, you know, live in harmony together. But
what I was saying is, Okay, boundaries are good. The
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over use of it is my problem. Okay. What I
mean by that people are being generally rude, like, okay, yes,
people should have boundaries, but I don't think you always
have to express it like that. You know, for instance,
if you if I were to say to you, I
don't like that you have long hair, now, I've wouldn't
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say that to you, but if I were. Okay, there's
some people out there that that's their boundaries. They take
offense to that. You can't say that to me. Okay, yeah,
I mean, but that's what good. But that is what
goes on a lot nowadays. Okay, if you look at
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young people going to therapy, the therapists are I know
this from talking to people. The therapists are telling these
people you have to exercise your boundaries. But what's happening
is is the people taking that advice or taking it
very literally like that it means that only their boundaries
count and what somebody else wants to do or doesn't like.
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It gets very extreme.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's like you're not allowed to say anything anymore that
they wouldn't want to hear you say because you have boundaries.
But maybe it's something you have to hear. Okay, so
maybe it's like you know something as can constructive criticism. Okay,
so constructive criticism is not criticism, but it's really just
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giving you advice to make you better from an objective,
subjective point of view. Okay, so if you don't have
that constructive criticism, how do you get better as a podcaster,
as a radio show host, as a TV personality, as
a musician. Musicians get better with constructive criticism. That's why
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they have a producer that says, well, yeah, and you
know that doesn't sound But nowadays, with boundaries, it's almost
like people aren't allowed to do things like that. It
has to be my way or the highway. And that's
the problem I have with boundaries is I've noticed people
that are very into the boundaries thing, and that's their
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attitude my way or the highway. And so the engineer
aka rebel, she could just set it, but she wrote
it in the private chat where nobody can see it.
But are the boundaries like walls people put up to
protect themselves? And it's themselves, not theirselves, just saying Louisiana
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doesn't have a great education system, so she said thereselves.
But maybe it is theirselves, maybe it's wrong, but for
the sake of English language, it's themselves. But no, but seriously, yeah,
putting up walls is I think a different type of boundary.
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I think that's a trauma boundary, and it doesn't necessarily
as somebody that has put up a lot of walls
in my lifetime, it doesn't necessarily serve you. That's the
point that boundary doesn't necessarily serve you. The boundaries that
do serve you is not taking certain things from certain people. Okay,
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and having your boundaries there.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Okay, we were like talking about it initially, you know
a few things like in regards to dating realm, you know,
those boundaries could be your your deal breakers, you know,
something like that. But I also see, yeah, not healthy
or it is healthy?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Is healthy?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly like knowing knowing what you know, the
confines of what you're looking for or what best matches you.
And I notice as well, even you know, maybe the college,
I hear some people that are like teaching, and you
know these you know, not like twenty mid twenties or
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something age you know, but not necessarily that age group either.
But there's a lot less harmony in the classroom, you know,
because there's lots more clashing. And I think that that's yeah,
like to your point of the hard boundary of there's
no permeability or there's there's no it's I think also
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a miscommunication and people those communication styles kind of suck,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
The words right there, the communication because that's where I
think the boundaries are the negative.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
When they want to when they want to assert something,
you know, people that may have been passive in the past.
So then their therapist is saying, Okay, now you need
to speak up or you know, clearly state your boundaries
whatever that is. But then it can go the fulcrum
can swing. Now it's like aggressive and.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well here's the way I do it. I think the
therapist's advice is really good. I think how the advice
is being taken it's a problem. What do I mean
by that? When the therapist is literally saying this to you,
they don't mean literally to tell people, oh, you have
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invaded my boundaries. It's more like, you don't have to
take crap from people. So somebody's treating you badly, you
have the right to walk away because you have boundaries
of what you're going to take. You have to right
to end the conversation because you have boundaries of what
you're going to take. The part that I don't like
is when they sit there and say, well, now you're
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just violating my boundaries. Why do you have to say that?
Why not just hey, I don't want to talk about it. Hey,
I don't want to do that. Why does it have
to be said like that to me? To me and
I may be wrong, that is annoying, and I'm going
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to want to jump right through your boundary for saying
it that way. Now, if you said to me I'm
not comfortable with that, I would totally get it and
I would stop whatever I'm doing. That's the difference, Yeah,
because I think that other way is kind of like
a is not what the therapist means. The therapist doesn't
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mean say I just said to you word for word.
It means have your own brain and your own thought process,
and within that thought process, know what your boundaries are.
There's invisible boundaries.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
It helps to if you can prepare yourself for a
moment like that, because maybe out of the reaction or
the frustration, something like that comes out right, so it,
you know, and that's maybe overreacting. So practice with something
like I'm not comfortable with that, you know, right? And
I have for some people who are like you know,
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exercising their boundaries.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I have brought out some old pipe main tools that
I haven't been using a while, but I'm going to
introduce to this show today maybe if you want, that
will definitely describe our point. When somebody says to me, well,
now you're violating my boundary. Well, let's start when somebody
says to me, you know, I'm really not comfortable with them, like, oh, yeah,
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that's cool. I understand totally. When somebody says, you're violating
my boundaries, you know what I hear? Would you like
to know what I hear?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like? You just detected? Oh I can't hear it.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You can't hear it? What is that?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
It's not coming across very clearly.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Okay, let's see if I go further from the mic.
Hold on, did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
It sounds like so it's low.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, this is this pen I have. It's the blah pen.
Oh that one that was catchy. Were here was going
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. That's
exactly what I did. My point is that is kind
of what I hear when somebody starts talking that that lingo,
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and so then I'm not listening. That's me. I'm not
saying that's everybody, but you have to take into account
there's going to be people like me out there, okay
that you know you're not gonna go like.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Is this related to your dating? Is this why you
wrut up? Dating? Is no someone's boundary?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
No, not at all. No, I'm just kidding, unless I'm
dating somebody in their young twenties, because that's usually where
that comes from. Not even young twenties. But it's like
one of the most popular word that gen Z people
is you're violating my boundaries. You don't need to say
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the word, is what I'm trying to say. I think
there's a better way for people to communicate back to
what you're saying. How you communicate with people is how
people are going to react to you. I can tell
you the reason why in my country, at least, there's
so much arguing going on. It's because of that communication
stuff just like that. Because when a gen Zer is
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telling a baby boomer, for instance, which I am not rebel,
maybe is no, rebel's not old enough. My ex wife is. Okay,
she's old enough to be a baby boomer. But basically,
if a gen Z is telling a baby boomer about
you really need to stop because you're violating my boundaries
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and it's making me very uncomfortable. Then, you know, the
baby boomer is probably gonna say blah blah blah blah
blah in their head, you know, because that lingo so
cross generational. I think people need to learn how to
communicate with each other using those spirits you're talking about. Yeah,
and you know, because like what I may think is silly,
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somebody else think is cool. What I think is cool,
somebody else may think it's silly. But I want to say,
we have one of your fans here. We're going to
bring it up on the screen. Yeah. Look, there it is.
I put it up and Rebel did at the same time,
and we keep doing it, keeps shutting off. Okay, there
we go.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
How are you doing, Hi? Gary? Doing great?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Is this every time I was putting that up, Gary, Yeah,
Rebel was doing it at the same time, like we
were both doing it, so kept disappearing.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Tell us about tell us about Gary. Is there's something
cool you want to tell us about Gary?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Gary?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Is there anything? Is there anything Gary has that you
want to plug or promote?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Well, I can't see the Facebook profile, so I've thought
if this was someone a new friend, I don't I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Because they said hello to Cole, so I'm assuming I
know you.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, well my name is like here, so you know any.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well know Gerry and you're acting like you don't now
and now that.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
It's thanks for just highlighting that whole bit. Yeah. Well, Gary,
if you've got a question for us, we'd love to
hear more from you, or.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If wants to plug something, the comment and we'll show
it on the screen and we'll plug Gary.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh my goodness, the pipe man so much fun, you
know what. Yeah, so the spirits are having a ball, right,
it's the playful playfulness. Okay, So there it gets a
little heady. I know this stuff is a little like
a lot more.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Like it's totally cool. So I want to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, okay, so each well each okay, So there's five
five spirits that each connect to an organ. So like
your kidney is your spleen, your heart, you're living your lungs.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Okay, which spirit is connected to the heart because I
want to kill that spirit.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, that's the shen. That's actually your spirit, like the
head honcho of the spirit.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And yeah, shen has not been nice to me at all?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Oh, well, have you been nice to it?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I try?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
How is your relationship here? Let me give you some
questions for you to consider. How your connection with the
spirit is. How clear and focused is your mind right now?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right now? Clear for what? I'm clear and focused on?
Why Shen keeps being mean to me?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Shen?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Shen?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah? Do you feel? Do you feel emotionally stable and
at peace? What are your primary sore of joys?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
One question at a time, Okay, second question, say it again.
Emotionally at peace.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Emotionally stable, and at peace with yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Emotionally stable, I would say that's a hard no. And
h and at peace with myself. Yeah, I'm at peace
with myself. I'm just not at peace with anybody else.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Okay. So see that's a we can go down the
rabbit hole of the contradictory nature of that, because they're
all pieces of yourself represented. You know, we can look
at the macro or the micro. You know, how do
you manage stress and anxiety?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I ignore the world because they're all a bunch of
people that give me a lot of stress and anxiety.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
So you got a lot of walls.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh yeah, I even I even't I even like get
the sheet rock out and build walls over the.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Windows, okay, like a bunker.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, you people stay over there. I'll be
over here.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Leave me alone, okay, yeah, self sufficient? M Okay. I
do have another question if you want on that one.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes, and I want you to ask these exact questions
of rebel. Okay, yeah, we give me the last one.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Okay. Are there any recurring thoughts or feelings that disrupt
your mental clarity?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I don't know if I should share that live on
the air.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, you can keep those dus there are.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Let's just leave it at that for these.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Questions are for everybody, rebel. Do you feel emotionally stable
and at peace with yourself?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I do?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I definitely do.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That is a freaking lie. She is not emotionally stable,
not even in the least I'll give the peace with herself.
Why am I? That's because she boks to herself every
day and that's why she's at peace and see, not
emotionally stable.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, it's the best advice ever.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
If I talk to myself.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, that's why you always get bad advice. No, Seeing
she's defaulting to the little girl.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Happens is because I have headphones on and I can't
hear my own voice, So it does that. If I
didn't have the hear the earphones on, I could do
the voices better. But you know, when I can't hear
myself talking, I just assume that it's the same way.
And you know it is all good.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well, you should be wearing your headphones if you're going
to be alive on a show. I'm going to get
with the program, will you exactly?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
So that's why the voice changes like it does.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay, question the call say as I do, not do
as I or no, do as I say?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Not next question call?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Okay. You know what we've been talking about over the
last few shows. This could be interesting and relevant for
our next guest. The E which is the intellect. It's
the spirit of intellect, and it's associated with the spleen
or your digestive system, and it's the one that when
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it's out of balance, will have the worry or you know,
the excessive worry and the feelings of like not being
balanced overthinking that. Yeah, we were talking about worry. I
think it was last time.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So is that like your if your digestive system is
bad you're worried about you know, you might.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Or something might slip out.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, yeah, I know, which is that, let's worried about you,
you know, doing stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
That's the ye why why I it means intell So
I mean these early you.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Know, So if you're worried, you're smart? Is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well, you're consuming a lot of energy from your your mind,
your mental you're you're thinking. It's you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Because I have my viewpoints on worry, and I think
worry is not smart because it doesn't accomplish positive.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I'm not saying I'm not saying it is because it's
kind of a waste of energy, is more what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
That's what I always say, is that.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
You're consuming that energy now goes to overthinking and the worry.
And like I said last week, if you remember that
the the energetics of the emotion worry are have a nodding,
nodding effect, So it like knots your stomach up and
then your digestion is poor because you're not really digesting
food at that time. You're you're focusing elsewhere. So you know,
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and this one's like the plan having a plan, a
reality check, and the earth it's represented with the earth element.
It's like the soil. So you know, we want to
be rooted. So if you're unrooted, then you're oftentimes floating
in the in the head, you know, you can be
a little bit heady or heady versus in your body.
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So you know, self care things like get you more
in your grounded in your body and feeling like you have.
You know, a bit of a plan can help out.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
So I do. I do think that, yes, okay, So
as far as worry goes my stomach swiss up. When
I worry about other people's.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Boundaries, yeah, when you violate their boundary, no.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Not violate, but I have to worry about them, like
I have to think before I speak. Might I violate
their brows boundaries? Yeah? I tell them their hair looks
nice today?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So yeah, and then you're kind of walk walking on eggshells,
you know, like that. You know that's not a fun
place to be in.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
In that case, How do shen and ye work together?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Good, well, well they work together. The shen is the boundaries,
the ye is the intellect towards those boundaries.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Well, I would Yeah, I don't. Wouldn't say SHN is
necessarily the boundary if we are to get more technical.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
But let's get more technical. What's the technical term. I'm
just given the dumb term because I don't know what
you're talking about, and I want to make sure everybody
else knows too.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
And I'm trying to make it make sense. But these
concepts are so this is why story time is helpful
for it.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Okay, I'm ready, let's have story time.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Get distracted or not.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I want to hear you tell us a story about
all five spirits to where I will understand what all
five spirits were about.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Oh you know, yeah, I actually did create a story
you're you'll love. Maybe you'll like this story of how
I created this that story.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Hold on.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
The whole story because just taking a break because exactly so,
I was in visiting friends in Vancouver, and Vancouver is
on the West Coast, uh and there was a concert happening.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
In Vancouver's in California.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
No, no BC, British Columbia.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Okay. In the United States, when we refer to the
West Coast, it's either the West Coast of Florida or
it's l A.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Okay, Well, there is a Vancouver, a city of Vancouver
in Washington on the west, on the west coast. Actually
so it is technically, but okay, see go ahead. So
from between, I think Vancouver is the only way that, like,
the only Amtrak route, so I took it. I took
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the am track from Vancouver into Seattle for a concert,
and I had to write this paper about the Five Spirits.
And I was, you know, I was visiting friends. I
was a little like less than one hundred percent on
that train. The next morning.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I have a quick question, where's the concert you're going to?
Was your motivation to write this stuff about the Five Spirits?
Was it because Ghost was playing? No, it wasn't Ghost, Okay,
I just wanted to find it.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Was equally as mythical and storytelling. You know, I'll give
you like one guess. I'm sure you would guess.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
It, don't I don't really care what band was there
if it's not Ghost. I just thought that would have
been so cool if you were writing about the Five
Spirits on the way to see ghosts. Now you've ruined
the whole story, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah, I know, I know this is a terrible story.
I'm sorry, guys, It's a great story.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I want to hear more. I want to hear the
good part.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
So I I in my kind of like hmm, I
didn't feel like very good. But I had to get
this done. And I was sitting on that train and
I just went like, all right, like here's the story
of the five like the five spirits, like the five elements,
you know, And it was just like imagining, hold on,
(41:27):
let me get my voice ready.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
That's what buttons for.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I went to look for you.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I just coughed and I mewed as the button. You
didn't hear me cough at all.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I don't even know where the okay it's here.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, I muted it and I put it the mic
in my face, so you don't even know him cough
and like watch.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I think rebel can edit that out.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Maybe that's a lot of work to end.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
All right, This is a good example when you know
you need to focus and get something done. This is
where you stop, take a breath, and let your energy
sink down and sink down into your pelvic bowl, down
your legs, into your feet like roots, and you're connecting
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to source. Yeah, and then now you have options.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
You just thought of what I said earlier.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
But yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah, because now it's it's
deep there, right, so just getting into your body and
then I you know, envisioned m just laying in a field. Okay,
imagine being This goes back to what I was originally
saying at the beginning of this, because it's like, remember
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a time where there was just like nothing but nature
and everything that you notice is information, and so this
story of the spirits was that it you know, it's
like the elements came started from the east and the
wind blew and it touches your your skin and you
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feel the wind. You know, that's the first spirit of
like creativity and inspiration. It's the it's the spirit of
the liver. It's abundant and it provides growth. So then
you know, then you move on to the other spirits
and that's I'll have to find the story. But that's
(43:32):
how that's how it starts another episode.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
You'll have to bring that story on.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I try. Yeah, I will have to find that one.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I have a question because the Chinese are very insightful. Okay,
so one of the spirits ishn right, that's how it
said han Okay, yeah, yeah, now I understand why you're
like with your significant other and you call them hun
because that's the all.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Right, it's one of them, the ethereal soul. Actually, the
liver has three spirits. We won't get into that, but yeah,
so there's maybe your extra you start dating. You just
start dating, and then it's like suddenly, oh, no, where
did all these extras come from?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah? Is that why the liver gets damaged from alcohol?
Is because it has this whole party of spirits going on.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yes, I love this is very fascinating when people are
drinking or alcohol has it helps circulate cheat and blood,
like it increases circulation, right, So, yeah, you will often
find that the emotions that are trapped in the liver
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can sometimes be dislodged and moving. So you'll have the
really happy drunks, you know, or the really angry ones
like I don't know, the sad ones, the criers, or
maybe just joy joyful you know. But I think that
is interesting that sometimes those things can come out. I
know you were probably maybe joking, but it's actually kind
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of true.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
And that's why you should joke, because the people can learn.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
And that's stories it makes it memorable, relatable, Like you know,
it's a kind of visceral. If you're laughing or you're
engaged in, you know, with it, then you'll remember it
more now. And okay, wait, what I have one more thing. Okay,
when you have a big trauma or an accident, you know,
(45:43):
I'm thinking like something major, like maybe a car accident
or a surgery, it's possible for your spirits to leave
your leave your body, and with that void, it also
is possible for something else to come in. So you know,
sometimes you'll have an experience and you'll say like, I'm
just not myself after that.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
That explains how pipe Man happened.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Ah yeah, So by remembering your these five spirits, you
remember more of your true nature and connecting back to source.
I still believe there's hope for you, pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Well, let's talk about one of the other spirits. Okay, okay,
it's kind of an oxy.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I've been crying and my mescara is like, it's.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Like an oxymoron, the Poe spirit, because that's for corporate soul.
And I don't know anybody in corporate America that has
a soul.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Okay, the corporate soul, it's corporeal.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Oh oh oh.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Oh yeah, the soul of the corporate realm. Yeah, this
one's this one's like connects to the lungs. So it's
like you're, oh, it's very animalistic. It's like the instincts.
It's it's or you know, almost our animal nature and
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our physical sensations, like the skin is connected to the
pull or the lungs.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Oh see, I thought, when you're talking physical sensations, I thought,
this is what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Oh my god, what is that.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
It's it's it's a special thing from the Pipeman's store
called orgasms in a can.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Okay, get some of those.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Okay, okay. So we talked about we talked.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
About bonus bonus if you buy today, get in there.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
We talked about spirit, spirit, and then we talked about
the ethereum, the bitcoin soul, right, and then and then
we talked about the corporate soul. We talked about intellect.
What we didn't talk about is something that I have
a lot of, and it's called what is it? What
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is it? There's only one left?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Jee or Yeah, you can just say jet will power,
will power.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
You can't even say it jee is it? Jee? Jeez?
Speaker 3 (48:22):
My my pronunciation with that. So it was a little
a little rusty. It's been a little while since I've
been speaking.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
My Well there, hurry up, you only got like a
minute and twenty seconds.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Okay. Well, will power it's like your your goals, like
what you're doing something for. It's like you're driving force
your determination. I think that boundaries can kind of like
play in here a little bit because you're like, you know, you're.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Now there is I will say, there is a fine
line between having willpower the way you're talking about it
and violating somebody's boundaries because that will hour too much
of that, say, the spirit against jee. Yeah, it's more
(49:07):
of like adj the just spirit, the just spirit that okay,
can violate boundaries at times. So yes, yes, that that persistence,
but not too much that you violate their shin, yeah, exactly.
Don't kick them in the shin, yeah, or you may
violate their shin.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah. And you know, careful not to upset that corporate
soul because that thing will come at you like an animal.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Oh, corporeal for sure.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Corporeal. Okay. Well, another fun hour with you, Thank you
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hello and welcome everyone. Thanks for tuning in again and
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with our co host Extraordinair being the pipemin Piper.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hello out not eating the call? Why are you responding
to me the something I'm sending rebel in the private chat?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Oh well, okay, so we're talking about LinkedIn? Thought you
wanted my LinkedIn?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, it's on there now. No, I was seeing it
missing from the broadcast. So I was private chatting rebel.
But I'm glad you answered. Somebody answered, because you're the
only one that answered. I don't know rebels sleeping right now.
Just saying I was not I was fixing the problem
(01:36):
shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So there, yeah, we we we we're live streaming on
many platforms right now.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yes, and and so we're on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, Twitch, Twitter.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, and then the replays all on iHeart.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We're also live on Top four TV and w WN Radio.
Forget the replays because people are live here now and
we want those people. We We'll worry about the replay
people later. We want to give first priority to the
people that have dedicated their time to our show live
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at this time. And I just realized, can you tell
me I forgot to put my shades on?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh yeah, well, you know, just showing up.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I don't have to fix them now because now.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You're wearing a cool T shirt today? Though. Is it
for our visual listeners? I don't know. Is it it's channeling?
Oh amazing, So it's not maryln is Marilyn Monroe yet
it's what do you? I don't know what does it
say at the bottom away, it's a cool shirt.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, it comes from one of the conferences. It's a company,
but that it would be Marilyn if Marilyn was.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
All taed Yah yeah, yeah, yeah, Nice's funny.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So tell me, well that wasn't AI. I don't think.
I think that was before AI became such a big
thing recently, this shirt. But speaking of AI and this shirt,
what about dragons?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Oh? Dragons?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, well, you know, dragons, because whatever you're doing before
you go to sleep, I want some. I don't see
a dragons while I'm sleeping.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Fantasy, No, you don't. You don't imagine your life as
you know, a mythical land. Fantasy land. No, that's why characters.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
No, that's why I live in the outside world and
not in a mental hospital. All right, you went to
your a psychiatrist and said, you're walking around like your
life is a bunch of dragons and all those other
things you mentioned. I can assure you that they would
be putting you into a seventy two hour baker check.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh come on, Fantasy is like a huge, hugely popular genre.
Look at all those video games and TV shows, movies
and books, and it comes from somewhere. It's it's imagination,
that's you know, it's another world. And who knows dragon's
actually could be real.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know, well they could be. But my point is
is that there's a difference between watching a movie, listening
to a song and actually walking through life thinking that
this stuff that you see in a fancy novel is
literally going on around you. Literally. That's why they might
put you in the mental hospital. I'm just saying. But
(04:48):
you know, I am all for it. You just can't
let people know you're doing it. Okay, that's the whole point.
I constantly walk around with all these thoughts in my
head that nobody should know that I'm thinking. Okay, and that's.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Just twist to it, right. I think that's That's what
I'm all about. Fun play it. It relaxes the body.
It creates more possibilities like whoa, how fantastic. But yeah,
you know it's you're not going to be living in
their full time I am I have in reality.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Rebel Shive came shut and dressed up as a dragon
for this show.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I don't have any dragon attire. I'm sorry, I have.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Other they don't wear clothes. Rebel you don't need a tire.
They don't wear clothes. Okay, oh my goodness, if a dragon, okay,
doctor Nicole, if a dragon did wear a clothes, what
kind of clothes would they wear?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Little booty shorts for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
The hint of a segue to Chinese medicine, they would
wear like Asian clothes. Yeah, yeah, they're going to their
Chinese medicine, expert, doctor Nicole Porton.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And yeah, well, the dragon represents so much in Chinese culture.
I'm sure you've maybe seen that or there's that famous image.
It's like the two dragons around the pearl. Yeah, yeah, yea,
and it kind of represents the yin and the young
and right away.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I don't think you ever noticed, well, all the times
you've seen me in person and on the show, you've
never noticed that I do.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Have taiji, whereas you're disappearing. Yeah, you're a fantasy.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Last I have the yin yang ying have a ding
dong and the yin yang right.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Ye oh, yes, you're ready to roll.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But no, seriously, though, okay, I want to hear it.
If I were a dragon and I were coming on
this show, I want to hear I would want to
hear about the five spirits in traditional Chinese mena.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yes, well, yeah, thanks thanks for that, because if you
think about the original, let's go back to this source,
like just origin, and if you had none of the
modern stuff we have today and we're just you know,
very basic, what do you have around you?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Is that the source? And like well okay, wait wait
wait is that the source like in the TV show
Charmed Source.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Oh, it's been a while since I've seen that the source.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
N sources like the source of all evil?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, yeah, I would say it's the same thing. I mean,
it's good and evil. It's birthed from everything. So what
what about that before?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, what is the and the Chinese concept on you
know evil and not evil?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, there's the duality of everything. You know, they're they
are born of one another. They rely on each other.
You know, it's like they just are what creates unity
in a way, you know, the two two separates can
create the whole. And that's you know somewhat the image
of the two dragons around you know, with the pearl
and with the yeah, that yin yang symbol, that one
(08:24):
that you see with the black and the white and
the and the dots, right, one right there. Yeah, yeah,
that's called the thai gi. So that symbol.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Represents So does that mean I should wear tai taiji
my taiji when I do tai chi.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, when you're doing tai chi, you are doing tai
tai taiji is with you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But when you're doing taiji, are you doing thai chi?
The question, I don't think it goes Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, this was sides the point. But I mean it
is an exercise and a practice too. And you know,
I love I love mythical like adventures and stories because
I think that that makes valuable life lessons or concepts
that are sometimes so hard to really pinpoint. It gives
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them a little bit of context and you can relate
to it a little bit. And this is I mean,
traditions have been carried through stories, you know. So, and
that's funny because his history is his story, right, So
what we know today could could be a different story
(09:39):
than what we knew.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Then.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It's like a big game of telephone tag, you know.
And especially with Chinese medicine, you know, one thing about
the Five Spirits is that it is, in really ancient
times a critical piece of the puzzle in the mental, emotional,
spiritual aspect of physical health. And as we have got on,
I mean in China specifically the cultural revolution and when
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mounts It Dunk came in a lot of that stuff changed,
like the spiritual part of it became separate, and we
can't really separate these things or else it's like just
one piece of the pie. So when now today we
have to remember that knowledge. And that's why it's like
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rediscovering it because these are you know, like archetypes, are
parts of you that are just as active players. So
why not just give them a little character that's.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I have a riddle for you, by the way, Okay,
it has to do with the five spirits? Yeah, So
which one of the five spirits would this fall under?
So my live show The Adventures pipe Man is tomorrow Wednesday.
Your live show The Language of Healing is today Touesday yesterday.
(11:03):
I pre recorded my live show for tomorrow The Adventures
of Pipe Man Wednesday because I'm leaving going out of
town to a wedding. But which spirit would describe the
fact that tomorrow my beard is gray and today it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh my goodness, that's awesome. A little flashback through time
or time space continuum. I would say that's the spirit
of the liver of the hun. It regulates time.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So literally, yesterday I was in tomorrow and today it
looks like I'm after tomorrow, but I'm actually today.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Wow, see did you figure that out? Did you follow rebel?
Did you follow that ancient Chinese secret?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah? No, it's not calgon.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But my question is when she does that, why again,
is it a little girl sound like Eddie voice that
she does she defaults to little girl. I'm so sorry,
pipe man, it ain't Chinese secrets.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
There you go. Nice.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That sounds like a little boy. Now it sounds like
a little girl trying to be a little boy.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
That is the day age, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Okay, don't revel Well, their children are the best, you know,
examples of imagination. Yeah, it's like tapping into that playful
childlike quality.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, seriously, access You are absolutely correct, because that's the
problem with adults. And I think to me, if you're
going to get one thing out of traditional Chinese medicine
based on what we're talking about today, it's that just
because we come and become adults doesn't mean we have
to say squash imagination and because we're adults doesn't mean
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we should squash the imagination of children because basically because
they do have such imagination there, I think children are
more open to learning and figuring out things than adults
that are hardheaded and refuse to have a imagination and
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think you're supposed to act a certain way as an adult.
You know, I'm doing rep voice over right now? That was.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
That sounded like a scary man?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well you haven't met Rebel, have you? But anyway, but
I mean, do you see what I'm saying here?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah? Yeah, Because one example that I love relatable is
that movie Inside Out. I think they did a really
cool job of of that movie. Yeah, because there's five
characters in there, right, and they can represent the five elements,
the five spirits, the five emotions, the you know, they're
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all they're they're all together, Like the five is is
quite a powerful number, you know, So we can give
them archetypes and stories, so then it's relatable. So then
it's like, oh, yeah, when sadness goes missing or no,
what was it joy? When Joy goes missing? Like how
do we find her again? You know? And what what
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creates you know, something in someone's life to you know,
have that adventure unfold.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Sole coping skillful trait with Chinese traditional Chinese medicine into dating.
So yeah, if all five of your spirits are existing
at one time, how does that work in dating?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, they should be all communicating, working in unison.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So if you were out at a date with somebody
and all five of their spirits showed up and it
like kind of seemed like they were just being you know,
like all those emotions and inside out they're all talking
to each other. But what if you hear them talking
to each other? Then what do you think?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh well what would I think? I mean, then they're
all talking, Then they're all talking together, and they're all
showing up, and maybe they put one more in the front,
like maybe the you know, maybe Joy because she represents
like the heart, the fire element, and that's that's connected
well I mean to the heart literally, but it's like
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our purpose and our passion. And I think that's a
good way to get to know somebody what motivates them, right, Yeah,
like you can share some other things, you know, I'm
just thinking of like another motivator could be the willpower,
Like you know, you get to know where some one
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someone's boundaries are Oh that's a good one too, you know,
like that spirit should show up and be like, these
are my boundaries. It's very nice to have a clear.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Let's talk about boundaries. Let's talk about boundaries because that
word bothers me. It's being serious, okay, because along with overwhelm,
but that, yeah, overwhelmed, there's good reason this one's different. Okay.
The boundaries thing is because it's so overused now, okay
(16:30):
to the point of rude. So like, because that's the
big buzzword in therapy nowadays. Everybody you talk to talks
about their boundaries, and it's like you're not allowed to
express yourself because of.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Their Oh you've got some microphone issues.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Was listening okay, because he was trying to say and pipe, man,
you were muted?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, well the boundaries. Yeah, I mean it's like
a I don't know what other word would you want
to be using. You're still not on there. I can
see your arms.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know why I was muted because I hit the
wire on my mic and that's why I was going
like this. So Nicole would get to him to keep
talking because he was going to hear me.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know what's so funny. I kind of looked down
at that moment and I was just listening, so I
didn't really see like you and like, oh, radio silence.
We don't like this. We don't like this. Now I
need to be quick, and you're talking about boundaries. So
is there another word that you might use? I mean,
because I think that it's it's healthy. It's like the
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banks of the river.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
They I think boundaries are healthy.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Well, now you sound echoey like you're now you're traveling
through the space space continuum. This is the moment where.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You come up with I'm quite excited about talking about
these things that my MC keeps screwing up.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But you're handsy, hansy talker. Yes, that's just knocking everything.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
The Italian in me Okay, yeah, I'm cursed to be
an Italian Jew. The Italian is going to sit there
and talk with my hands, and the Jew's going to say,
speak up right, you know, live in harmony together. But
what I was saying is, Okay, boundaries are good. The
(18:36):
over use of it is my problem. Okay. What I
mean by that people are being generally rude, like, okay, yes,
people should have boundaries, but I don't think you always
have to express it like that. You know, for instance,
if you if I were to say to you, I
don't like that you have long hair, now, I've wouldn't
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say that to you, but if I were. Okay, there's
some people out there that that's their boundaries. They take
offense to that. You can't say that to me. Okay, yeah,
I mean, but that's what good. But that is what
goes on a lot nowadays. Okay, if you look at
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young people going to therapy, the therapists are I know
this from talking to people. The therapists are telling these
people you have to exercise your boundaries. But what's happening
is is the people taking that advice or taking it
very literally like that it means that only their boundaries
count and what somebody else wants to do or doesn't like.
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It gets very extreme.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's like you're not allowed to say anything anymore that
they wouldn't want to hear you say because you have boundaries.
But maybe it's something you have to hear. Okay, so
maybe it's like you know something as can constructive criticism. Okay,
so constructive criticism is not criticism, but it's really just
(20:07):
giving you advice to make you better from an objective,
subjective point of view. Okay, so if you don't have
that constructive criticism, how do you get better as a podcaster,
as a radio show host, as a TV personality, as
a musician. Musicians get better with constructive criticism. That's why
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they have a producer that says, well, yeah, and you
know that doesn't sound But nowadays, with boundaries, it's almost
like people aren't allowed to do things like that. It
has to be my way or the highway. And that's
the problem I have with boundaries is I've noticed people
that are very into the boundaries thing, and that's their
(20:51):
attitude my way or the highway. And so the engineer
aka rebel, she could just set it, but she wrote
it in the private chat where nobody can see it.
But are the boundaries like walls people put up to
protect themselves? And it's themselves, not theirselves, just saying Louisiana
(21:13):
doesn't have a great education system, so she said thereselves.
But maybe it is theirselves, maybe it's wrong, but for
the sake of English language, it's themselves. But no, but seriously, yeah,
putting up walls is I think a different type of boundary.
(21:33):
I think that's a trauma boundary, and it doesn't necessarily
as somebody that has put up a lot of walls
in my lifetime, it doesn't necessarily serve you. That's the
point that boundary doesn't necessarily serve you. The boundaries that
do serve you is not taking certain things from certain people. Okay,
(21:53):
and having your boundaries there.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Okay, we were like talking about it initially, you know
a few things like in regards to dating realm, you know,
those boundaries could be your your deal breakers, you know,
something like that. But I also see, yeah, not healthy
or it is healthy?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Is healthy?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly like knowing knowing what you know, the
confines of what you're looking for or what best matches you.
And I notice as well, even you know, maybe the college,
I hear some people that are like teaching, and you
know these you know, not like twenty mid twenties or
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something age you know, but not necessarily that age group either.
But there's a lot less harmony in the classroom, you know,
because there's lots more clashing. And I think that that's yeah,
like to your point of the hard boundary of there's
no permeability or there's there's no it's I think also
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a miscommunication and people those communication styles kind of suck,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
The words right there, the communication because that's where I
think the boundaries are the negative.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
When they want to when they want to assert something,
you know, people that may have been passive in the past.
So then their therapist is saying, Okay, now you need
to speak up or you know, clearly state your boundaries
whatever that is. But then it can go the fulcrum
can swing. Now it's like aggressive and.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well here's the way I do it. I think the
therapist's advice is really good. I think how the advice
is being taken it's a problem. What do I mean
by that? When the therapist is literally saying this to you,
they don't mean literally to tell people, oh, you have
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invaded my boundaries. It's more like, you don't have to
take crap from people. So somebody's treating you badly, you
have the right to walk away because you have boundaries
of what you're going to take. You have to right
to end the conversation because you have boundaries of what
you're going to take. The part that I don't like
is when they sit there and say, well, now you're
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just violating my boundaries. Why do you have to say that?
Why not just hey, I don't want to talk about it. Hey,
I don't want to do that. Why does it have
to be said like that to me? To me and
I may be wrong, that is annoying, and I'm going
(24:38):
to want to jump right through your boundary for saying
it that way. Now, if you said to me I'm
not comfortable with that, I would totally get it and
I would stop whatever I'm doing. That's the difference, Yeah,
because I think that other way is kind of like
a is not what the therapist means. The therapist doesn't
(24:58):
mean say I just said to you word for word.
It means have your own brain and your own thought process,
and within that thought process, know what your boundaries are.
There's invisible boundaries.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
It helps to if you can prepare yourself for a
moment like that, because maybe out of the reaction or
the frustration, something like that comes out right, so it,
you know, and that's maybe overreacting. So practice with something
like I'm not comfortable with that, you know, right? And
I have for some people who are like you know,
(25:35):
exercising their boundaries.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I have brought out some old pipe main tools that
I haven't been using a while, but I'm going to
introduce to this show today maybe if you want, that
will definitely describe our point. When somebody says to me, well,
now you're violating my boundary. Well, let's start when somebody
says to me, you know, I'm really not comfortable with them, like, oh, yeah,
(26:01):
that's cool. I understand totally. When somebody says, you're violating
my boundaries, you know what I hear? Would you like
to know what I hear?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like? You just detected? Oh I can't hear it.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You can't hear it? What is that?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
It's not coming across very clearly.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Okay, let's see if I go further from the mic.
Hold on, did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
It sounds like so it's low.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, this is this pen I have. It's the blah pen.
Oh that one that was catchy. Were here was going
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. That's
exactly what I did. My point is that is kind
of what I hear when somebody starts talking that that lingo,
(27:04):
and so then I'm not listening. That's me. I'm not
saying that's everybody, but you have to take into account
there's going to be people like me out there, okay
that you know you're not gonna go like.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Is this related to your dating? Is this why you
wrut up? Dating? Is no someone's boundary?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
No, not at all. No, I'm just kidding, unless I'm
dating somebody in their young twenties, because that's usually where
that comes from. Not even young twenties. But it's like
one of the most popular word that gen Z people
is you're violating my boundaries. You don't need to say
(27:44):
the word, is what I'm trying to say. I think
there's a better way for people to communicate back to
what you're saying. How you communicate with people is how
people are going to react to you. I can tell
you the reason why in my country, at least, there's
so much arguing going on. It's because of that communication
stuff just like that. Because when a gen Zer is
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telling a baby boomer, for instance, which I am not rebel,
maybe is no, rebel's not old enough. My ex wife is. Okay,
she's old enough to be a baby boomer. But basically,
if a gen Z is telling a baby boomer about
you really need to stop because you're violating my boundaries
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and it's making me very uncomfortable. Then, you know, the
baby boomer is probably gonna say blah blah blah blah
blah in their head, you know, because that lingo so
cross generational. I think people need to learn how to
communicate with each other using those spirits you're talking about. Yeah,
and you know, because like what I may think is silly,
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somebody else think is cool. What I think is cool,
somebody else may think it's silly. But I want to say,
we have one of your fans here. We're going to
bring it up on the screen. Yeah. Look, there it is.
I put it up and Rebel did at the same time,
and we keep doing it, keeps shutting off. Okay, there
we go.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
How are you doing, Hi? Gary? Doing great?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Is this every time I was putting that up, Gary, Yeah,
Rebel was doing it at the same time, like we
were both doing it, so kept disappearing.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Tell us about tell us about Gary. Is there's something
cool you want to tell us about Gary?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Gary?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Is there anything? Is there anything Gary has that you
want to plug or promote?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Well, I can't see the Facebook profile, so I've thought
if this was someone a new friend, I don't I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Because they said hello to Cole, so I'm assuming I
know you.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, well my name is like here, so you know any.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well know Gerry and you're acting like you don't now
and now that.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
It's thanks for just highlighting that whole bit. Yeah. Well, Gary,
if you've got a question for us, we'd love to
hear more from you, or.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If wants to plug something, the comment and we'll show
it on the screen and we'll plug Gary.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh my goodness, the pipe man so much fun, you
know what. Yeah, so the spirits are having a ball, right,
it's the playful playfulness. Okay, So there it gets a
little heady. I know this stuff is a little like
a lot more.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Like it's totally cool. So I want to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, okay, so each well each okay, So there's five
five spirits that each connect to an organ. So like
your kidney is your spleen, your heart, you're living your lungs.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Okay, which spirit is connected to the heart because I
want to kill that spirit.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, that's the shen. That's actually your spirit, like the
head honcho of the spirit.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And yeah, shen has not been nice to me at all?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Oh, well, have you been nice to it?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I try?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
How is your relationship here? Let me give you some
questions for you to consider. How your connection with the
spirit is. How clear and focused is your mind right now?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right now? Clear for what? I'm clear and focused on?
Why Shen keeps being mean to me?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Shen?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Shen?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah? Do you feel? Do you feel emotionally stable and
at peace? What are your primary sore of joys?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
One question at a time, Okay, second question, say it again.
Emotionally at peace.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Emotionally stable, and at peace with yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Emotionally stable, I would say that's a hard no. And
h and at peace with myself. Yeah, I'm at peace
with myself. I'm just not at peace with anybody else.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Okay. So see that's a we can go down the
rabbit hole of the contradictory nature of that, because they're
all pieces of yourself represented. You know, we can look
at the macro or the micro. You know, how do
you manage stress and anxiety?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I ignore the world because they're all a bunch of
people that give me a lot of stress and anxiety.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
So you got a lot of walls.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh yeah, I even I even't I even like get
the sheet rock out and build walls over the.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Windows, okay, like a bunker.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, you people stay over there. I'll be
over here.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Leave me alone, okay, yeah, self sufficient? M Okay. I
do have another question if you want on that one.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes, and I want you to ask these exact questions
of rebel. Okay, yeah, we give me the last one.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Okay. Are there any recurring thoughts or feelings that disrupt
your mental clarity?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I don't know if I should share that live on
the air.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, you can keep those dus there are.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Let's just leave it at that for these.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Questions are for everybody, rebel. Do you feel emotionally stable
and at peace with yourself?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I do?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I definitely do.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That is a freaking lie. She is not emotionally stable,
not even in the least I'll give the peace with herself.
Why am I? That's because she boks to herself every
day and that's why she's at peace and see, not
emotionally stable.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, it's the best advice ever.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
If I talk to myself.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, that's why you always get bad advice. No, Seeing
she's defaulting to the little girl.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Happens is because I have headphones on and I can't
hear my own voice, So it does that. If I
didn't have the hear the earphones on, I could do
the voices better. But you know, when I can't hear
myself talking, I just assume that it's the same way.
And you know it is all good.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well, you should be wearing your headphones if you're going
to be alive on a show. I'm going to get
with the program, will you exactly?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
So that's why the voice changes like it does.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay, question the call say as I do, not do
as I or no, do as I say?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Not next question call?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Okay. You know what we've been talking about over the
last few shows. This could be interesting and relevant for
our next guest. The E which is the intellect. It's
the spirit of intellect, and it's associated with the spleen
or your digestive system, and it's the one that when
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it's out of balance, will have the worry or you know,
the excessive worry and the feelings of like not being
balanced overthinking that. Yeah, we were talking about worry. I
think it was last time.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So is that like your if your digestive system is
bad you're worried about you know, you might.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Or something might slip out.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, yeah, I know, which is that, let's worried about you,
you know, doing stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
That's the ye why why I it means intell So
I mean these early you.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Know, So if you're worried, you're smart? Is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well, you're consuming a lot of energy from your your mind,
your mental you're you're thinking. It's you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Because I have my viewpoints on worry, and I think
worry is not smart because it doesn't accomplish positive.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I'm not saying I'm not saying it is because it's
kind of a waste of energy, is more what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
That's what I always say, is that.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
You're consuming that energy now goes to overthinking and the worry.
And like I said last week, if you remember that
the the energetics of the emotion worry are have a nodding,
nodding effect, So it like knots your stomach up and
then your digestion is poor because you're not really digesting
food at that time. You're you're focusing elsewhere. So you know,
(36:53):
and this one's like the plan having a plan, a
reality check, and the earth it's represented with the earth element.
It's like the soil. So you know, we want to
be rooted. So if you're unrooted, then you're oftentimes floating
in the in the head, you know, you can be
a little bit heady or heady versus in your body.
(37:13):
So you know, self care things like get you more
in your grounded in your body and feeling like you have.
You know, a bit of a plan can help out.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
So I do. I do think that, yes, okay, So
as far as worry goes my stomach swiss up. When
I worry about other people's.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Boundaries, yeah, when you violate their boundary, no.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Not violate, but I have to worry about them, like
I have to think before I speak. Might I violate
their brows boundaries? Yeah? I tell them their hair looks
nice today?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So yeah, and then you're kind of walk walking on eggshells,
you know, like that. You know that's not a fun
place to be in.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
In that case, How do shen and ye work together?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Good, well, well they work together. The shen is the boundaries,
the ye is the intellect towards those boundaries.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Well, I would Yeah, I don't. Wouldn't say SHN is
necessarily the boundary if we are to get more technical.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
But let's get more technical. What's the technical term. I'm
just given the dumb term because I don't know what
you're talking about, and I want to make sure everybody
else knows too.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
And I'm trying to make it make sense. But these
concepts are so this is why story time is helpful
for it.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Okay, I'm ready, let's have story time.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Get distracted or not.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I want to hear you tell us a story about
all five spirits to where I will understand what all
five spirits were about.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Oh you know, yeah, I actually did create a story
you're you'll love. Maybe you'll like this story of how
I created this that story.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Hold on.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
The whole story because just taking a break because exactly so,
I was in visiting friends in Vancouver, and Vancouver is
on the West Coast, uh and there was a concert happening.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
In Vancouver's in California.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
No, no BC, British Columbia.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Okay. In the United States, when we refer to the
West Coast, it's either the West Coast of Florida or
it's l A.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Okay, Well, there is a Vancouver, a city of Vancouver
in Washington on the west, on the west coast. Actually
so it is technically, but okay, see go ahead. So
from between, I think Vancouver is the only way that, like,
the only Amtrak route, so I took it. I took
(40:05):
the am track from Vancouver into Seattle for a concert,
and I had to write this paper about the Five Spirits.
And I was, you know, I was visiting friends. I
was a little like less than one hundred percent on
that train. The next morning.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I have a quick question, where's the concert you're going to?
Was your motivation to write this stuff about the Five Spirits?
Was it because Ghost was playing? No, it wasn't Ghost, Okay,
I just wanted to find it.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Was equally as mythical and storytelling. You know, I'll give
you like one guess. I'm sure you would guess.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
It, don't I don't really care what band was there
if it's not Ghost. I just thought that would have
been so cool if you were writing about the Five
Spirits on the way to see ghosts. Now you've ruined
the whole story, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah, I know, I know this is a terrible story.
I'm sorry, guys, It's a great story.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I want to hear more. I want to hear the
good part.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
So I I in my kind of like hmm, I
didn't feel like very good. But I had to get
this done. And I was sitting on that train and
I just went like, all right, like here's the story
of the five like the five spirits, like the five elements,
you know, And it was just like imagining, hold on,
(41:27):
let me get my voice ready.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
That's what buttons for.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I went to look for you.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I just coughed and I mewed as the button. You
didn't hear me cough at all.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I don't even know where the okay it's here.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, I muted it and I put it the mic
in my face, so you don't even know him cough
and like watch.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I think rebel can edit that out.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Maybe that's a lot of work to end.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
All right, This is a good example when you know
you need to focus and get something done. This is
where you stop, take a breath, and let your energy
sink down and sink down into your pelvic bowl, down
your legs, into your feet like roots, and you're connecting
(42:17):
to source. Yeah, and then now you have options.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
You just thought of what I said earlier.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
But yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah, because now it's it's
deep there, right, so just getting into your body and
then I you know, envisioned m just laying in a field. Okay,
imagine being This goes back to what I was originally
saying at the beginning of this, because it's like, remember
(42:48):
a time where there was just like nothing but nature
and everything that you notice is information, and so this
story of the spirits was that it you know, it's
like the elements came started from the east and the
wind blew and it touches your your skin and you
(43:10):
feel the wind. You know, that's the first spirit of
like creativity and inspiration. It's the it's the spirit of
the liver. It's abundant and it provides growth. So then
you know, then you move on to the other spirits
and that's I'll have to find the story. But that's
(43:32):
how that's how it starts another episode.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
You'll have to bring that story on.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I try. Yeah, I will have to find that one.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I have a question because the Chinese are very insightful. Okay,
so one of the spirits ishn right, that's how it
said han Okay, yeah, yeah, now I understand why you're
like with your significant other and you call them hun
because that's the all.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Right, it's one of them, the ethereal soul. Actually, the
liver has three spirits. We won't get into that, but yeah,
so there's maybe your extra you start dating. You just
start dating, and then it's like suddenly, oh, no, where
did all these extras come from?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah? Is that why the liver gets damaged from alcohol?
Is because it has this whole party of spirits going on.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yes, I love this is very fascinating when people are
drinking or alcohol has it helps circulate cheat and blood,
like it increases circulation, right, So, yeah, you will often
find that the emotions that are trapped in the liver
(44:51):
can sometimes be dislodged and moving. So you'll have the
really happy drunks, you know, or the really angry ones
like I don't know, the sad ones, the criers, or
maybe just joy joyful you know. But I think that
is interesting that sometimes those things can come out. I
know you were probably maybe joking, but it's actually kind
(45:13):
of true.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
And that's why you should joke, because the people can learn.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
And that's stories it makes it memorable, relatable, Like you know,
it's a kind of visceral. If you're laughing or you're
engaged in, you know, with it, then you'll remember it
more now. And okay, wait, what I have one more thing. Okay,
when you have a big trauma or an accident, you know,
(45:43):
I'm thinking like something major, like maybe a car accident
or a surgery, it's possible for your spirits to leave
your leave your body, and with that void, it also
is possible for something else to come in. So you know,
sometimes you'll have an experience and you'll say like, I'm
just not myself after that.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
That explains how pipe Man happened.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Ah yeah, So by remembering your these five spirits, you
remember more of your true nature and connecting back to source.
I still believe there's hope for you, pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Well, let's talk about one of the other spirits. Okay, okay,
it's kind of an oxy.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I've been crying and my mescara is like, it's.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Like an oxymoron, the Poe spirit, because that's for corporate soul.
And I don't know anybody in corporate America that has
a soul.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Okay, the corporate soul, it's corporeal.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Oh oh oh.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Oh yeah, the soul of the corporate realm. Yeah, this
one's this one's like connects to the lungs. So it's
like you're, oh, it's very animalistic. It's like the instincts.
It's it's or you know, almost our animal nature and
(47:05):
our physical sensations, like the skin is connected to the
pull or the lungs.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Oh see, I thought, when you're talking physical sensations, I thought,
this is what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Oh my god, what is that.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
It's it's it's a special thing from the Pipeman's store
called orgasms in a can.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Okay, get some of those.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Okay, okay. So we talked about we talked.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
About bonus bonus if you buy today, get in there.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
We talked about spirit, spirit, and then we talked about
the ethereum, the bitcoin soul, right, and then and then
we talked about the corporate soul. We talked about intellect.
What we didn't talk about is something that I have
a lot of, and it's called what is it? What
(48:09):
is it? There's only one left?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Jee or Yeah, you can just say jet will power,
will power.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
You can't even say it jee is it? Jee? Jeez?
Speaker 3 (48:22):
My my pronunciation with that. So it was a little
a little rusty. It's been a little while since I've
been speaking.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
My Well there, hurry up, you only got like a
minute and twenty seconds.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Okay. Well, will power it's like your your goals, like
what you're doing something for. It's like you're driving force
your determination. I think that boundaries can kind of like
play in here a little bit because you're like, you know, you're.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Now there is I will say, there is a fine
line between having willpower the way you're talking about it
and violating somebody's boundaries because that will hour too much
of that, say, the spirit against jee. Yeah, it's more
(49:07):
of like adj the just spirit, the just spirit that okay,
can violate boundaries at times. So yes, yes, that that persistence,
but not too much that you violate their shin, yeah, exactly.
Don't kick them in the shin, yeah, or you may
violate their shin.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah. And you know, careful not to upset that corporate
soul because that thing will come at you like an animal.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Oh, corporeal for sure.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Corporeal. Okay. Well, another fun hour with you, Thank you
for tuning in. We'll see you next time. W four
w N dot com Tuesdays at two pm Eastern Time.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Tuesday afternoon on W four w N Radio, the Women
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show that's the good one, the one where you're fast
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Speaker 3 (50:19):
Me double time.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, thanks for listening again, Thanks for being here, doctor Nicole. Seriously,
you are an expert of this area that I mean
totally helps people and totally helps me because I have
no clue what you're talking about. I do, but I
act like I don't. And that's really corporeal for me.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Corporate corporeal, keeping it real, Keep.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
It real, corporeal. Thanks for real the language of corporeal healing. Yes, Wow,
what a show today, and the journey does not stop here.
Speaker 5 (50:59):
Come travel the world with Nicole every Tuesday at two
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